Mar 28, 2022 City Council

[CALL TO ORDER]

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CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER. UH WE'VE GOT A PRETTY BIG CROWD HERE TONIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO REMIND EVERYBODY TO PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONE. YEAH, I SEE EVERYBODY'S LOOKING . I HAVEN'T HANDLED REMINDING, BUT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A BIG CROWD LIKE THIS FOR A WHILE. BUT WE WILL START THE MEETING BY STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND WILL REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION. WHAT HAPPENED IN AMERICA FOR WEEKS STAYING HERE? ON THE ENERGY DID SOMETHING WRONG. OH, MY GOD. WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING. AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND ITS CITIZENS ARE MEN. BROKE OFF. ALAN SEYMOUR PRESENT. DEBORAH GROTE DOESN'T DONALD BURGER MARGARINES. PAYING BURBEY. AARON CARPENTER JR ROUSH EXCUSED. OKAY THANK YOU. NEXT UP ON THE AGENDA APPROVAL OF

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

PLEASE SAY AYE. MINUTES ARE APPROVED. AH NEXT UP, WE GET TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT

[COMMENDATIONS]

AND WE'RE A CITY PARKS ENCOURAGE ACTIVE LIFESTYLE, STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND PROVIDE A PLACE FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES TO CONNECT WITH NATURE AND RECREATE COURSE TOGETHER.

AND WE'RE AS THE CITY SHANNON THE PROPERTY. THE SCOTT FAMILY PART WE WILL DEVELOP THE PROPERTY TO INCLUDE PAID PAID TRAILS, SHELTER HOUSE AND POSSIBLY A PLAYGROUND ANYWHERE AS THE CITY OF MARY. SO IT'S TREMENDOUSLY GREAT. WELL, LISTEN , PAINFUL GIFT MADE FATHER, SCOTT HAND. HER FAMILY AND THE SCOTT FAMILY PARK WILL BE ENJOYED BY CITIZENS BY GENERATIONS OF CITIZENS. NOW THEREFORE, I MARGARINES, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MIRRORS FELT ON BEHALF OF AN APPRECIATIVE COMMUNITY WANTS TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN THE SCOTT HAMBURG FAMILY. FOR THEIR GENEROUS DONATION OF LAND FOR THE SCOTT FAMILY PERSON. SEE AMERICA.

OKAY THIS IS REPRESENTED SIMILAR CAN YOU GET. WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER PICTURE HERE IN SECONDS JUST TO

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KIDS. IN HERE AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN GREAT STEWARDS OF THIS. GAME IN YEARS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE DAD HERE IN THE COMING WEEKS, WE WILL HAVE AN ADVENT OUT ON SITE THAT WILL INVITE, MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE AVAILABLE AND WE WILL KIND OF OPEN THE SIDE OUT FOR THE COMMUNITIES TO SEE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LOCATION WHERE IT'S AT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, WE'LL TRY NOT TO MAKE IT TOO BIG BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO YET. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE JUST WE LOVE THE PROPERTY. THANKS. VERY GRATEFUL. I KNOW I LOVE IT.

GENERAL GENERAL VALUE. I WAS LIKE, REALLY QUESTION TO GET THIS FINE LINES. PORTMAN A LOT AFTER DETAILS. I'M REALLY EXCITE. IT'S A PREVIOUS LAND. IT HAS ITS FARMING CHALLENGES AGAIN AS THE LEAST CAN ATTEST TO THAT. IT'S A IT'S A PRETTY PIECE. AND ANOTHER THING I WANT TO ADD IS WE'VE GOT A FULL HOUSE TONIGHT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUILD OBLIGATED TO STAY. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HURT. RIGHT NOW, TAKE YOUR SEAT. YEAH.

[ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THAT WORK . YOU GUYS ARE A REMINDER. WE'VE ANNOUNCED A PREVIOUSLY DRUG TAKE BACK DAY IS APRIL 10TH FROM 10 AM TO TWO PM AT WALGREENS. BETTER WALGREENS. CORRECT? SHE 30TH SORRY. OH I'M SORRY. OKAY THE 3RD APRIL 30TH. THANK YOU. APRIL 30TH FROM 10 AM TO TWO PMO

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CONCRETE WORK WILL CONTINUE AND THE PROJECT CONTINUES TO STAY ON SCHEDULE. IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE MAKING A LOT OF PROGRESS. EVERY TIME I DRIVER WALKED BY THERE. AND THEN FINALLY, RAYMOND ROAD WATERLINE FORECLOSURE OF RAYMOND ROAD WILL BE IN EFFECT TODAY MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY AND THEN DAYTIME CLOSURES WILL BE IN EFFECT THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, SO THE SIMILAR NEED TOUR WILL HAVE TO OCCUR, AS HAS MAYBE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. SO A LOT OF REASONS FOR THE NEXT CLOSURE HAD TO DEAL WITH. WE WERE WAITING ON SOME PARTS AND PARTS AND OTHER ITEMS LIKE THAT, BUT WE FIGURED WE'D OPEN IT UP WHILE THERE WAS A WINDOW TO DO SO AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. THAT CONCLUDES THE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY THANK YOU. MOVE ON TO THE REPORT OF THE CLERK. A COUNCIL. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. HAVE NOTHING

[PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT]

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YES. ZERO. NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. VERY WELCOME. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? WHERE YOU BE COVERING

[DESIGN REVIEW BOARD REPORT]

ZERO. NO. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU QUESTIONS. SO NEXT UP ON OUR AGENDA IS HEARING OF CITIZENS THIS WHERE WE ALLOWS ANY CITIZEN WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT'S NOT PART OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. OKAY I'M GOING TO GUESS WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE TALK ABOUT AN AGENDA ITEM, SO WE'LL MOVE ON. READY. RESOLUTION A ONE READING ONLY TO AUTHORIZE THE DISPOSAL OF SURPLUS PERSONAL

[Res. A]

[Res. B]

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THIS DOES HAVE AN EMERGENCY CAUSE I GUESS I SHOULD SAY, WHICH REQUIRES A MOTION TO PASS.

I MAKE THE MOTION TO, UM PHOTO ON THE EMERGENCY CLASS. OKAY WE'LL CALL MR BURBEY. YES MR CARPENTER? YES MR SEYMOUR. MRS GROAT? YES MR BERGER? YES MR REEMS. 60 MOTION CARRIES THIS WILL BE BACK FOR A SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING. ON MONDAY, APRIL ORDINANCES.

[Ord. A]

KEEP THE OVERVIEW APART BEFORE ME THOSE DEEDS IT'S HARD YOU CAN SEE THE SOUTHEAST WILL BE LITTLE OHIO STATE. THE SOUTH GATE BUILDING. ONE BUILDING IS RESISTING. THE SECOND BUILDING IS TO BEGIN IN 2022. YOU CAN SEE THE REST INNOVATION POCKET 171 173 ACRES OF. IT'S GOOD, BUT I

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THAT'S ABOUT 17 ACRES REMAINS. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET 138 YEARS. DECIDE BETWEEN MORE INTO AND UM IN SOUTHEAST ASIA. IT'S ABOUT. 32 ACRES AND THEN THE CYCLE BETWEEN SUNBELT SOME ABOUT SIGNING THE SOUTH KOREA THAT'S ABOUT $80 AND CHANGE. THAT'S KIND OF THE ACREAGE. INITIAL.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED NINE ACRE SITE. THIS IS LONG INDUSTRIAL PARK WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT HIGHLIGHTS ITS HEARTY WORLD. LET ME EXPLAIN OVER THERE, ACTUALLY , A COUPLE OF SLIDES HERE SECOND OFF TALK ABOUT HARDBALL, BUT THIS IS A NINE ACRE SITE. WE HAVE A PURSE AGREEMENT OF PRICE OF $75,000 PER ACRE. YOU'VE TAKEN THAT PERSON AGREEMENT ACTUALLY THROUGH THE SKY SEA SERIOUSLY IS ALREADY ENDORSED THAT WE NEED COUNCIL APPROVAL TO MAKE IT IT'S ESTIMATED AND AGAIN . THIS IS ASTRONAUT. THEY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT SPIRITUALLY. STRUCK 120,000 SQUARE FEET CHANGE YOU SOMEONE THE EXACT NUMBER THAT WOULD HAVE INCREMENTS OF LEBRON 30,000 POTENTIALLY SOME OTHERS SQUARE PAGES OR MULTI TENANT SPACE IN THIS BUILDING. THIS IS SOMETHING WE REALLY NEEDED COMMUNITY. WE'RE DOWN HARDLY ANY INDUSTRIAL SPACE LESS THAN 1% VACANCY RATE ALL OF THESE KIND. SPACE SO IT'S HIGH DEMAND AS WE SPEAK. THIS WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE PARK. WE THINK THAT SPACE IS GOING TO FILL UP PRETTY QUICKLY. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HARDY WORLD NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND AND HARDY WORLD HARDY WORLD IS ACTUALLY A PARENT COMPANIES. 84 LUMBER. THEY'RE BASED IN THE WASHINGTON AREA. THEY'RE ACTUALLY ENTERING MULTIPLE MARKETS THROUGHOUT THE EASTERN US TO BASICALLY DO INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. THEY ALSO OWN THE NEMACOLIN RESORT, WHICH IS A GOLF GOLF RESORT OUTSIDE BETWEEN PITTSBURGH AND WASHINGTON. AND THEY'RE INTERESTED IN ENTERING OUR MARKET. THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN THE CINCINNATI MARKET. THIS WOULD BE THEIR FIRST PROJECT IN THE COLUMBUS REGION, SO WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE THEM AND HARDY WORLD HERE LOCALLY. THE NEXT SLIDE WILL SHOW YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF BUILDINGS THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WONDERFUL DESIGN RATE ARCHITECTURE. IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THE CURRENT SOUTHGATE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE. WE'RE EXCITED AGAIN ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING IN MARYSVILLE. THE GOOD NEWS IS THEY REALLY WANT TO START CONSTRUCTION IN 2022. THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT THAT SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF APPROVAL THAT CONSTRUCTION IS TO BEGIN, SO THAT'S THAT'S KEY POINT TO MAKING THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT. SO TONIGHT WE'RE ASKING COUNCIL'S BLESSING ON THIS. WE'RE ALSO ASKING TO WAVE PASSES, EMERGENCY AND WAVE SECOND READING AT YOUR SECOND. OR HERE TODAY OR YOUR SECOND READING, AND THAT'S OUR REQUEST , AND ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE CAN MOVE TO CLOSING ON THIS PROPERTY AND SELLING THE LAND. ALL TOLD, ABOUT NINE ACRES $75,000. THAT'S ABOUT $675,000. PAYING FOR THIS PROPERTY. SO WITH THAT, AND TERRY, UNLESS I MISSED MENTIONED , MISSED ANYTHING YOU'VE GOT OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS. ANY ANY COUNCIL COMMENT TAKING WHEN WE OBTAINED THE PROPERTY ABOUT 67 YEARS AGO? YEAH, OUR GOAL WAS 200 SOME ACRES WITH THE MINIMUM OF FIVE PEOPLE, VERY PERSONS BUT ACRE IN ANY GIVEN SPACE. UM DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? OBVIOUSLY WHEN THEY HEAR 84 LUMBER? YEAH BUT I IMAGINE THE FOCUS ON THIS PORTION OF 84 LUMBER IS DIFFERENT THAN THE 84 LUMBER AS WE KNOW IT. BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY INDICATION AT THIS POINT IF THAT MINIMUM OF FAITH CAN BE OBTAINED BY THE MULTI TENANT CONCEPT THAT THEY ARE WILLING THAT THEY ACTUALLY WANT TO BUILD UP THERE? IT'S VERY GOOD QUESTION. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO PROJECT THAT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY TAX INCENTIVE APPLICATION TYPICALLY ARE ARE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. SOME CASES OF 75 JOBS SO IN SOME CASES FOR SOME OF THESE INCENTIVES, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE PURCHASER. THE GOAL IS TO GET AS MANY JOBS AS POSSIBLE AT THIS SITE. OKAY YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN PROJECT EXACTLY HOW MANY JOBS I KNOW THE SOUTH GATE BUILDING. THEY DID PROJECT 75 JOBS WHERE THEY COMMITTED TO 75 JOBS THAT THEY'RE BUILDING SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S CONSISTENT HERE. BUT WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE AND NEGOTIATE THAT WITH THE PROPERTY. OKAY AND YOU MENTIONED THAT THE C I C ALREADY APPROVED . IT DID A PROOF BECAUSE, UM, WHAT EXACTLY DID THEY APPROVE? APPROVE? NORMALLY IT'S A 10 YEAR TAX ABATEMENT AT 75% BUT DID THEY ALREADY PUT OUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THEY WERE PLANNING TO BE INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY OR SO THE CSC WOULD NOT HAVE

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AND YOU KNOW THE PANDEMIC SOME THINGS DOWN, AND I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT WE'RE SEEING THESE PROJECTS. COME TO FRUITION. YOU KNOW, NOW WE HAVE THE ONE THAT JUST OPENED AND NOW WE'VE GOT THIS ONE. SO IT'S EXCITING TO SEE THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING NOW AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS MOVING FORWARD. I HOPE YOU SEE YOU MORE OFTEN ABOUT THIS SO MHM. I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I DON'T REALLY HAVE A QUESTION. I JUST HAVE MORE OF A STATEMENT TO FIGURE BACK. I GUESS EVERYBODY ELSE INSANE. BUT OBVIOUSLY IS THIS COUNCIL KNOWS, AND PROBABLY SOME OF THE COMMUNITY KNOWS. I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, CITIES ARE SMART BUYING LAND. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR CITIES TO BUY LAND . AND THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHY CITIES SHOULD PURCHASE PROPERTY. MM WHEN DID I WASN'T ON COUNCIL? OBVIOUSLY AT THE TIME THAT YOU GUYS PURCHASE THIS? UM WHAT YEAR WAS IT WHEN YOU GUYS DID PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY OFF TOPIC WE HAD. DO YOU REMEMBER 2000 AND 17? 18 I THINK WAS EVOLVED PART. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY THANK YOU.

THEN. WE KIND OF LOST TWO YEARS IN THERE IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AS WELL. BUT YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING IS I THINK WE SHOULD COMMENT ON IS THE CONSTRUCTION EXPENSE AND SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.

I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER HUGE WIN FOR US TO HAVE A DEVELOPER WANTING TO SPEND THAT EXTRA DOLLARS BECAUSE IT'S LUMBER PRICES ARE UP OVER 100% I THINK EVEN CLOSER 250. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THE INCREASED EXPENSE AND WE HAVE A DEVELOPER WANTED TO BUILD BECAUSE THEY KNEW THERE IS A NEED IN THE COMMUNITY. AND SO THAT'S A GOOD SIGN AS WELL. SO THAT THAT'S GREAT. WE WHERE ARE LOOKING AT, UM, MOVING THIS FORWARD FAIRLY QUICKLY. THIS HAS AN EMERGENCY CLAUSE THAT REQUIRES US. AH TO HAVE EMOTION PASS. SO DO WE HAVE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE EMERGENCY CLAUSE FOR THIS ORDINANCE, A OKAY? ROLL CALL. MR BURBEY? YES MR CARPENTER? YES MR SEYMOUR? YES, MRS GROAT? YES MR BERGER? YES, MR REEMS? YES. 7060 ENGLISH IN CARRIES. WE ALSO HAVE A REQUEST TO WAIVE OF THIRD READING. WHICH WOULD REQUIRES SIX VOTES TO DO TONIGHT. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO WAIVE THIRD REASON. OKAY? WE'LL CALL MR CARPENTER. YES MR SEYMOUR. MRS GROAT? YES, MR BERGER? YES MR REEMS? YES, MR BURBEY? YES, 60. MOTION CARRIED. THANK YOU. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING. MONDAY, APRIL 1G TITLE ONLY TO AUTHORIZE

[Ord. B]

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THANKS SOMEWHAT, UM, INFORMATION IN HOUSES. WELL SO WE SOMEBODY RECOMMEND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS? IN A. GO AHEAD. AARON WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THIS ITEM WAS UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED BY THE FINANCE COMMITTEE LAST WEEK. SO OKAY, THANK YOU, HELEN. AND THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME SPENT TALKING ABOUT THE VALUE OF INTERNS. FOR THE PRICE THEY PAY FOR THE PRICE THAT COST CYST AND I THINK GENERALLY, THE WHOLE ROOM WAS UNANIMOUS THAT INTERNS IS A GREAT INVESTMENT, SO OKAY? ARE THERE ANY OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS? THE ONLY THE ONLY COMMENT THAT I WOULD MAKE IS I HOPE THAT WITH THIS NEW AND TERM WE CAN TAKE TALK OR SOMETHING. SO I'M GONNA SAY THANK YOU. AND NOW THERE IS A REQUEST DUE TO THE TIMING OF GETTING THIS PERSON ONBOARD FINALIZING THE OFFER. THERE'S A REQUEST TO WAIVE THE THIRD READING. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO WAIVE THE THIRD READING. CAN'T ROLL CALL. MR SEYMOUR? YES, MRS GROAT? YES, MR BERGER? YES MR REEMS. MR BURBEY? YES, MR CARPENTER? YES. 60 MOTION CARRIES. THIS WOULD BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON MONDAY, APRIL 11TH. THANK YOU. MR PRESIDENT? YES MAY I JUST MAKE A POINT? SINCE EVERYBODY'S HERE AND I HOPE YOU'RE HERE EVERY OTHER WEEK THAT BOTH ORDINANCE A AN ORDINANCE P THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED. 2ND 2ND READING IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON THESE TWO ORDINANCES, BUT IT WILL ALSO BE THE FINAL VOTE. AND SO THE WAY WE'RE WAVING READINGS , YOU GET TO COME BACK EXPRESS YOUR OPINION, AND WE WILL VOTE THOSE SAME NIGHTS, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A GREAT HOUSE . YEAH, GOOD POINT. SO IT WILL BE BACK PUBLIC IS INVITED FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AT THAT NEXT MEETING. ORDINANCE SEE SECOND

[Ord. C]

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ORDINANCE. YES. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO. STEVE WHAT? YOU MIND USING THE PODIUM. I APOLOGIZE, BUT SINCE IT WILL BE RECORDED AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS WE HAVE A NEW CLERK, STEVE STOLE THE 6 34 WEST EIGHTH STREET. UM I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE COUNCIL. AND TERRY AND ADMINISTRATION AND ERIC FOR ALL OF YOUR VISION WITH REGARD TO THE INNOVATION PARK. MM I KNOW IT'S BEEN IT'S TAKEN SOME TIME, BUT I THINK THE BALLS ROLLING AND I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE SEEING SOME MAJOR CHANGE. IN THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. AND SO I JUST APPRECIATE AND THANK ALL OF YOU FOR THAT FOR THAT VISION. STEVE IF BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I DO WANT TO MAKE ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT, AND IT'S THOUGHT THAT CAME ALONG WITH IT. BACK IN 2000 AND 7 16 17 WHEN YOU TERRIBLE DOWN INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY AND YOU GET CLOSE TO WHERE CASCO IS UNDER A TENT SIDE. YOU SEE THAT LARGE FACILITY THAT'S FEDEX HAS BUILT. OKAY NOW. AT THAT TIME. THERE WAS NO MEMORY. NO, THANK YOU. I'M USING THE WORD ROOM BECAUSE THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THIS VERY SAME SITE. AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO REALIZE IS THAT THE FOOTPRINT OF THE FEDEX BUILDING IS 92 ACRES. JUST IMAGINE 92 ACRES. WE HAVE 212 ACRES OUT THERE. BUT IF FEDEX AT BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN OBTAINING THAT PROPERTY THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 92 ACRES WITH ONLY 50 JOBS. IMAGINE THAT WITH ONLY 50 JOBS, AND THOSE ARE MIGRATED JOBS. THOSE ARE JOBS. YOU KNOW, YOU GET TO TALK TO BACK UP. YOU GET A SOMEBODY ON THE TOE TALK. YEAH AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S GOOD. IT'S GOOD JOB. BUT THOSE WERE NOT THE KIND OF JOBS THAT PEOPLE LOOKING FOR YOU SO THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON FOR IT. 50 JOBS VERSUS NOW THAT THAT'S WHY YOU HEARD ME EARLIER TALK ABOUT THOSE FIVE JOBS FOR ECHO. BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONE THING THAT WE SET OUT TO DO. WE CAN BE. YOU CAN SAY THAT HE IS SUCCESSFUL IF WE HAVE OVER 1000 JOBS ON THAT LOCATION, AND THAT THAT'S THE GOAL, BUT THE REASON WAS ARE WE GOING TO BUILD ONE GREAT, BIG, HUGE BUILDING WITH A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND ONLY AFFECTED JOBS ON 92 ACRES, AND IT'S A IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE WHERE IT IS AT THE MOMENT BECAUSE THEY GET THE MONEY FROM THE REAL ESTATE TAX. BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A HORRIBLE PLACE FROM MAYSVILLE TO HAVE HIM OUT HERE WITH ONLY THOSE FEW JOBS, SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT WAS PART OF THE REASONING BEHIND IT SO MANY YEARS AGO. THANKS FOR YOUR WORDS. THANK YOU, STEVE.

[Ord. D]

ANY COUNCIL COMMENTS. OKAY, OKAY. CITIZEN COMMENTS. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING

[Ord. E]

THIS WENT TO BOTH FINANCE COMMITTEE AND THE UTILITY RATE WORKING GROUP. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATION FURTHER? IN COUNCIL COMMENTS. CITIZEN COMMENTS. OKAY THIS WILL

[Ord. F]

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THAT MONDAY, APRIL IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG NIGHT 18 LOTS OF FUN. ORDINANCE G SECOND READING

[Ord. G]

AH AS TERRY MENTIONED, THIS IS GOING TO SO AS STANDARD SCHEDULE FOR ALL THE TRASH THAT GETS PICKED UP IN THAT AREA, IT WILL BE IN ONE CENTRALIZED LOCATION. IT'LL INCLUDE RECYCLING, GREASE COLLECTION AND TRASH. AND IT'S REDUCES RATES, SO IT'S REALLY A WIN WIN FOR EVERYBODY, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. ANY OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS. SO THIS WILL BE BACK CITIZEN. YES, ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS. YOU CATCH. OKAY? THIS WILL BE BACK. THIRD READING ON MONDAY, APRIL 11TH.

[Ord. H]

THIS IS SIMPLY SUPPLEMENTS. SOME FUNDS IN THE SANITATION FUND FOR THE WHAT DO WE CALL IT? THE NO, NOT COVERS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO THE WELL, I DON'T EVEN LIKE ME. WHAT DO WE CALL IT? THE HUGE CONTINUED CLOSURE, THE ENCLOSURE, THE WASTE ENCLOSURE. THAT DOES SOUND A LOT NICER THAN DUMPSTER DIDN'T WANT DUMPSTER. I DIDN'T WANT TOTERS BECAUSE WE'RE YOU KNOW. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY COUNCIL COMMENTS? ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. THIS WOULD BE BACK FOR THIRD READING ON MONDAY, APRIL

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WE'VE GOT AN UPDATE ON THAT. OH, ME AT WORK. MANAGER FOR THE CITY . I OPERATE AS THE MAIN POINT OF CONTACT FOR OUR ALTRO REFRESHMENT AREA AND SO TO DO A QUICK REVIEW ON OUR MAURA AS IT STANDS TODAY, WE ESTABLISHED THIS IN 2018, THE OHIO REVISED CODE. HAD IT SET UP SO THAT I MUNICIPAL CORPORATION WITH A POPULATION OF 35,000, OR LESS CAN CREATE AN OUTDOOR REFRESHMENT AREA IF THE PROPOSED AREA WILL INCLUDE AT LEAST FOUR QUALIFIED PERMIT HOLDERS AND BE COMPROMISED OF 150. OR IF YOU WERE CONTINUOUS ACRES, AND SO THAT WILL KIND OF BE IMPORTANT

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IT IS A BIG QUESTION. HERE WE GO . UM SO YOU CAN SEE AND HEAR THAT THE GREEN MAP IS OUR EXISTING MAURA. A COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING UPDATES THAT WE GAVE THE COUNCIL WAS RELATION TO TWO NEW PERMIT HOLDERS IN THAT DISTRICT. THE AVALON IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON THEIR PERMIT AND SLASHED UP OPENED UP LAST YEAR. LIENS GARAGE HAS MADE AN AMENDMENT TO THEIR PERMIT WITH THE STATE SINCE THEY HAVE EXPANDED THEIR OPERATION. SO OUR MAP WITH BIN FOR NEED TO DO THAT AS WELL. UM, THE TWO ITEMS OF DISCUSSION OF LOOKING AT EXPANDING. WE'RE MOVING TO THE NORTH INTO THE SOUTH AND ONE OF THE FIRST AMENDMENTS IN THIS SLIDE THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT.

DOING WAS JUST MAKING IT SO THAT IT WAS PLUM STREET GOING OVER TO WALKING DISTANCE BREWERY. UM TERRY JOURNEY COMMENTS ON THIS ONE. WELL YEAH, THERE, YOU KNOW , OUR PREVIOUS MAP EXTENDED OVER THE MAIN STREET AND I THINK FROM THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED OVER THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS THERE WAS SOME INTEREST MAYBE TO CHANNEL THE WALKERS ALONG PLUM STREET, AND IN THAT PART OF THAT PROCESS, WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING HIM SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE WALK ABILITY OF PLUM STREET IN THAT SECTION, AND WE ALREADY ARE INCORPORATING IF THIS IS APPROVED, INCORPORATING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS INTO OUR STREET PROGRAM THIS YEAR. WHICH IS NEEDED BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE SIDEWALKS THERE AND PLUM STREET BETWEEN 7TH AND 8TH THERE , THERE NEEDS TO BE SIMILAR PLAYERS THAT OCCUR. ONE OF THE REASONS YOU KNOW WE'VE LOOKED AT , UH, STRONGLY AT WALKING DISTANCE IS YOU KNOW? THE OWNERS OF WALKING DISTANCE WENT TO GREAT LENGTHS. TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO AN OLDER BUILDING IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT THAT DIDN'T LOOK GOOD. AND IF YOU ALL RECALL IT WAS IT WAS NOT IN VERY GOOD SHAPE. IT'S THEY'VE TRANSITIONED THAT INTO JUST A FABULOUS BREWERY, AND THEY HAVE FOOD TRUCKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S JUST TURNED OUT TO BE REALLY NEAT. WE THINK IT'S THAT IT CAN BE VALUABLE FOR US TO INCORPORATE WALKING DISTANCE INTO OUR MAURA. AND I'LL REFER BACK TO A QUOTE OF DEB GROWTH AT THE LAST MEETING. YOU KNOW IF WE EXTEND THINGS RIGHT NOW, WITH A MORE AND WE ENCOUNTER ANY ISSUES . WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE. I MEAN, IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT THAT WE CAN'T TAKE BACK IF WE MOVE FORWARD ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, AND I THINK THIS CAN WORK OUT VERY WELL FOR US. TO INCLUDE THEM. YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE FOR PEOPLE TO START THINKING A LITTLE BIT DOWN THE ROAD. WE MAY GO UP, MAYBE GOING THE OTHER DIRECTION WHEN WE, UM REDO OUR OLD WATER PLANT SITE WHEN WE DECOMMISSION THAT REDEVELOP THAT SITE, SO YOU MAY BE GOING A LITTLE BIT THE OTHER DIRECTION TO INCLUDE IN THE MORA. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS WORTH. AH PUTTING BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION. WE'VE ALSO WATCHED OTHER COMMUNITIES SO I WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT JUST DOING THIS IN A VACUUM OURSELVES. WE'VE WATCHED WHAT'S OCCURRED IN PAL AND DUBLIN AND DELAWARE WORTHINGTON, BILL FOUNTAIN, HILLIARD AND THEY'RE THEY'RE ALL INCORPORATING VERY, VERY SIMILAR CONCEPTS AND EXPANDING NOT ONLY EXPANDING THEIR MORE AREAS AT SOME EXTENT. BUT THEY'RE ALSO EXPLAINING THE TIMES AND THE DAYS THAT THEY'RE DOING IT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL IN ALL THESE COMMUNITIES AND WE WATCH IT VERY CLOSELY FROM A POLICE PERSPECTIVE AND I'M NOT GOING TO TURN IT OVER YET THE CHIEF BROOKS, BUT CHIEF BROOKS HAS BEEN A PART OF EVERY ONE OF OUR MEETINGS. AND HE SPOKE TO PROBABLY JUST ABOUT EVERY ONE OF THE POLICE CHIEFS IN THESE COMMUNITIES, AND IT'S BECOME VERY FAVORABLE AND THE

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WEST OF WEST ON THE WEST SIDE UPON BETWEEN 7TH AND 8TH. BUT AFTER TALKING TO THE ARBORIST, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY ANYWAY AND THEN AS WELL AS PART OF THE PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S OUTSIDE THIS DISTRICT. SEVENTH STREET ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SEVENTH STREET, JUST EAST UPON THAT SIDEWALKS AND PRETTY ROUGH CONDITION, SO INSTEAD OF JUST STOPPING THERE, WE FIGURED SINCE WE'RE ADDING SOME CURB IN THAT AREA THAT WE GO AHEAD AND MAKE THOSE REPAIRS AS WELL AS TERRY MENTIONED AGAIN. THE SIDEWALK IS THE PROPERTY OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY. BUT IN THIS SPECIFIC CASE, WE FELT THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO SPEND TAXPAYER DOLLARS IF THAT MAKES SENSE. JEREMY. OUR SECOND ITEM UP FOR VOTE IS REGARDING OUR HOURS OF OPERATIONS AND AGAIN. WE CAME BACK WITH TWO OPTIONS FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER. OPTION A WOULD BE WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, OPENED FOR UNTIL 10 OPEN SATURDAY, SUNDAY NOON TO 10 AND THEN ALL FEDERAL HOLIDAYS NOON TO 10 AND THEN OPTION B WOULD BE CONSIDERING MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, FOUR UNTIL 10 SATURDAY, SUNDAY NOON UNTIL 10 YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER COMMUNITIES BELOW AND WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE. SEVERAL OF THEM HAVE MORE RECENTLY MADE ADJUSTMENTS TO BE OPEN ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS AND CONSISTENCE. IT'S NOT ONLY MORE CONVENIENT AND EASY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE SAFER AND EASIER FOR US TO HELP ENSURE THAT THE IMPLEMENTED UM AND STAYING ON COURSE AND THEN TO MAKE NOTE ACTION STEP 6-4 0.11 IN OUR IN OUR CITY STRATEGIC PLAN. THIS WAS A FEW YEARS AGO WHERE WE WANTED TO ENCOURAGE AND INCREASE THE FREQUENCY OF OUR MAURA THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER MONTHS IN PARTICULAR. SO THIS WOULD GIVE US THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL. IT'S ONE. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE HEARD SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF CITY COUNCIL. YOU KNOW, WE HAD TALKED ORIGINALLY ABOUT JUST GOING, YOU KNOW, SAME HOUR SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS. NOT THAT A LOT OF BUSINESSES ARE OPEN EARLIER IN THE WEEK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, OR PEOPLE PARTAKING AT NOON. ON A TYPICAL DAY, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE AN ABUNDANCE OF THAT AS A PART OF THE ADJUSTMENT HERE. IT JUST DOESN'T OCCUR. YOU DON'T SEE IT TODAY, BUT BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE BELIEVE IF YOU WERE ASKING ME FOR A RECOMMENDATION, I THINK

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WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE. THERE'S STILL THAT LEVEL OF COMFORT FOR THEM AS THE OWNERS AS WELL AS US AS A CITY. IF WE DECIDE WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, THAT'S THE BLESSING OF THIS IS THAT IT REALLY IS MANAGED AND OWNED BY US VERSUS HAVING TO REALLY GO THROUGH ADDITIONAL CHANNELS. ONLY OKAY? YEAH, AMANDA, JUST JUST AS REFERENTIAL AND YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED IT EARLIER, BUT NOW THAT WE SEE THIS AS A VIEW AND AN UPDATE, BUT WHAT ARE OUR CURRENT HOURS? I'M SORRY. COULD YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? WHAT? OUR CURRENT HOURS? OH, I'M THURSDAY FRIDAY 4 TO 10 AND SATURDAYS NOON UNTIL 10. OR TWO TILL 10. I'M SORRY TO CURRENTLY CURRENTLY , IT'S THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY SATURDAY, OKAY, WE IMPLEMENTED THAT IN 2020. AND THEN WE DID IT AS A SEASONAL BASIS, AND THEN WE JUST MAINTAINED IT, SO IT'S BEEN ACTIVE LIKE THAT FOR A YEAR. AND UM, LIKE TERRY SAID I WOULD MAKE NO. I MEAN, THERE'S PROBABLY A FEW PEOPLE THAT JUST AREN'T AWARE THAT IT IS ACTIVE. UM AND THAT IS AGAIN. THAT'S THAT COMMUNICATION FACTOR WHERE THE MORA WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE ITS OWN STANDALONE EVENTS SPECIFIC. IT REALLY IS JUST AN ADDITIONAL INCENTIVE TO OUR COMMUNITY TO THOSE BUSINESSES.

IF THEY'RE ABLE TO TRAIN THEIR STAFF CORRECTLY. THEY OVER HERE THAT THEY'RE STAYING TO DO SOME SHOPPING. MAYBE THEY CAN ENCOURAGE OR, UM, YOU KNOW, HELP OUT AND KEEP PEOPLE MORE LOCAL AS WELL. BUT YOU KNOW, HAVING THE HOURS BE A LITTLE MORE CONVENIENT, PROBABLY IS EASIER FOR EVERYBODY TO REMEMBER AND AGAIN, THEY WERE REALLY HAS NOT BEEN ANY ISSUES OR PAUSE FOR CONCERN AS YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER COMMUNITIES SUCH AS OURSELVES HAS DONE A LOT OF THAT SAME RESEARCH LOOKING INTO ANYTHING CUPS OR ISSUES ALONG THE WAY AND GOING BACK TO BEFORE. I MEAN THERE, UM, COVERING A LOT MORE ACRES THAN US, SO I THINK THAT IN ITSELF WERE STILL BEING PRETTY CONSERVATIVE. MHM. AND THEN THE FINAL ITEM IS REALLY AGAIN JUST A DISCUSSION POINT.

SO IF YOU GO TO THE FINAL BULLET WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT HOW, UM REALLY THE ONLY THING THE STATE TELLS US IS THAT HAS TO BE IN A DESIGNATED PLASTIC CUP, SO THE REST OF THOSE ARE JUST A GLANCE AT SOME OF THE OTHER RULES REGULATIONS THAT WE BRING FORTH TWO OR MORE PERMIT HOLDERS. AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION, UM AS A CITY WAS 10 OUNCES OF WINE OR LESS 20 OUNCES OF BEER OR LESS SO NOT TO EXCEED RIGHT, SO THERE'S CERTAIN BEVERAGES THAT ONLY NEED TO SERVE AT 10 OUNCES , AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD SERVE AS UM, BUT THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO CONSIDER ADDING SPIRITS SO THAT THAT 10 OUNCES WOULD BE WINE AND SPIRITS EVER SINCE WE STARTED OUR MORAL WE'VE HAD THAT REQUEST, IN PARTICULAR WITH A COUPLE OF THE ESTABLISHMENTS RELATED TO MARGARITAS. WE DO HAVE A NEW ESTABLISHMENT NOW THAT SERVES A SPECIALTY. DOCKERY STYLE, SO ALLOWING THAT WOULD ASK BE A BENEFIT TO THAT SMALL BUSINESS AS WELL. AND AGAIN RELYING ON THOSE OTHER COMMUNITIES AS OUR RESEARCH. THEY AS WELL, UM, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THIS AND SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT, TERRY? AGAIN I WOULD JUST FOLLOW UP BY SAYING I THINK THIS IS WORTH MOVING FORWARD ON FOR CONSIDERATION AND WE CAN ALWAYS REVISIT IT. AND REVALUATE AND DISCUSS IT WITH THE CHIEF OF WE'RE ENCOUNTERING ANY ISSUES AND MAKE IT JOSH ADJUSTMENTS AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, IF NECESSARY. YES MY LADY ON THE STATE FOR THE OPTIONING ANIMALS DO NOT INCLUDE AS TO CHANGE THAT EXPERIENCE. AND SO THIS IS NOT A WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS.

THIS WAS MORE OF JUST A HOUSEKEEPING LIKE WE GET TO DECIDE IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THAT, BECAUSE THE STATE DOESN'T REQUIRE US TO SAY WHAT WE DECIDE. SO THOUGH, DOES COUNSEL HAVE ANY INPUT ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE? BECAUSE FROM THE CEILING IS THE TWO OF THEM MINTS THE DEAL POWERS. CORRECT AND THE BOUNDARIES? MM HMM. BUT I'M NOT SEEING AN AMENDMENT OR CHANGE. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S TOTALLY YOUNG, PROCEDURAL. CORRECT WOMEN WITHOUT COUNSEL IMPROVEMENT. ARE THE LAST TIME WHEN WE SET IT UP. WE WENT ON COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION, SO WE WERE HAPPY TO SUPPORT. THE RECOMMENDATION OF YOU CAN FEEL FREE, THOUGH. IF YOU YOU KNOW IT'S WE WOULD DEFINITELY LISTEN. OBVIOUSLY. IF THAT'S AN INTERESTING THING. NO, NO, IT'S

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I REPRESENT WORD ONE WORD ONE REALLY ENJOYS ATTENDING THE MAURA UPTOWN FRIDAY NIGHTS AND

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GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR DINNER. I MEAN FOR A DRINK, AND IF ANYBODY DOES NOT WANT TO PARTICIPATE, UM , BEING A BUSINESS AND PUTS A LITTLE PLACARDS SAYING WE DON'T PARTICIPATE. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S THAT BUSINESSES. CHOICE UM I WILL CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE BY MY ATTENDANCE. NOW I'VE WILL REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THERE IS A CHURCH IN TOWN. THAT HAS A FIRST TUESDAY, TACO TUESDAY AND BY OPTION, UM. BY OPTION. A THAT TACO TUESDAY IS GOING TO KEEP YOU IN THAT ONE BUSINESS WITH AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE. IF YOU CHOOSE, UM TRULY, I THINK. FROM THE DISCUSSION. UM SIX AND SIX.

WHERE ARE YOU, JR WHEN WE NEED YOU OPTION A IS PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE IT BECAUSE IT'S THREE IN THE OTHERS, TOO. AND EVEN IF I VOTED FOR OPTION B, WHICH I REALLY DON'T CARE WE HAVE. WELL WE HAVE A POLICY IF YOU DO NOT RECUSE YOURSELF FOR NO REASON. SO I'VE GOT TO VOTE. UM, BUT. IF I VOTE FOR B, IT'S A TIE. SO JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY SORRY. I'M NOT GOING TO WALK AROUND WITH MY ALCOHOL ANYWAY. UM I DON'T KNOW, MIKE. DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT, UM, CHANGE YOUR MIND. I GOT IT. I'LL GO FOR OPTION AND THAT GIVES US FOUR. AN OPTION. EIGHT. NOW WE HAVE NOT FINISHED THE FULL DISCUSSION. WITH EVERYBODY HERE AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY CHANGED MY MIND. BUT YOU BETTER CHANGE SOMEBODY ELSE'S MIND IF YOU WANT BE TO BE YOUR CHOICE. IS THAT? YES SO? SO THAT BRINGS US UP TO CITIZEN COMMENTS. I BELIEVE THE SLIDE UP AND I'LL TAKE THE CLICKER WITH ME IN CASE SOMEBODY WANTS TO TALK OR HAVE QUESTIONS WITH THE SLIDE, BUT I ASSUME THAT THEY'LL NEED TO COME TO THE PODIUM. OKAY YEAH, WE HAVE ACTUALLY THE SECOND PODIUM BACK THERE. FOR ASSISTANT COMMENTS. UH SO IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CITIZENS SPEAKING, SO I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, WALK UP TO THE PODIUM.

INTRODUCE YOURSELF WITH YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SO NOW IS THE TIME FOR A CITIZEN INPUT. HELLO MY NAME IS DOUGLAS AND CO OWNER OF WALKING DISTANCE BREWING. UM JUST ONE OF FIRST SAY HUGE THANK YOU TO YEARS AGO, MY PARTNER IN LIFE, AND I AM, UM WE WERE LOOKING AT RENOVATING A CONDEMNED THE BUILDING. THAT'S OFF THE BEATEN PATH A LITTLE BIT, AND WE DREAMED ABOUT SOMEDAY OPENING AND THEN BEING PART OF THIS SO UM, JUST WE ARE NOW OPEN AND JUST GRATEFULLY, PART OF THE CONVERSATION AND GOOD FOR EVERYTHING. ESPECIALLY ON THE RECENT UPDATES. SOLDIERS APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE. UM I JUST WANTED TO FOCUS ON KIND OF TWO THINGS. ONE IS JUST REITERATING WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE MAURA OR ADORA IS. AND THEN SECOND, JUST HIGHLIGHTING WHAT THE EXPERIENCE IS THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE WHEN THEY GO TO THESE EVENTS. THERE'S QUITE A FEW REASONS OUT THERE WHY THEY HAVE DOORS, BUT THE TWO BEST THAT I COULD FIND WERE ONE TO STIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, REVITALIZED DOWNTOWNS AND INCREASED RETAIL AND RESTAURANT DEVELOPMENTS. I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY SAY THAT THIS EXPANSION IN THE EXTENDED HOURS SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY ADDED SOME SOME JOBS ON EIGHTH STREET, AND THERE'S ANY BUSINESS COMING IN TOWN ACROSS MUSCLE LOT OF ACTIVITY IN THAT AREA. AND SO I THINK THAT INCLUDING US, AND THE EXPANSION TO THE NORTH, AS WELL, DEFINITELY SUPPORTS THAT. AND THEN ALSO JUST CREATING UNIQUE EXPERIENCES. WE ARE THE ONLY BREWERY IN THE DOWNTOWN OR UPTOWN AREA, AND SO INCLUDING US IN THAT DEFINITELY ENHANCES THAT EXPERIENCE. AND ALSO WE DO HAVE SOME SOME FUN IDEAS ON HOW TO INCORPORATE OURSELVES INTO SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES IN THE CORE UPTOWN SO MM. JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT. I THINK THAT THIS WHAT IS PROPOSED DEFINITELY MEETS THE PURPOSE. OF THOSE THOSE TWO PURPOSES. UM ADDITIONALLY WE KIND OF TOUCHED ON A LOT OF THESE, BUT WHAT THE ACTUAL EXPERIENCES, UM, CAN'T ADD TOO MUCH BEYOND WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID. BUT MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE , UM MY WIFE AND I LIVED IN A

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WE KIND OF TOUCHED ON SAFETY. UM THERE IS A PERCEPTION OF PEOPLE DRINKING AND WALKING AROUND AND BEING UNSAFE, BUT I THINK WE'VE ALL ESTABLISHED THAT IN OUR TOWN AND OTHER TIMES. IT IS NOT A CONCERN. IT'S NOT REALLY A SAFETY CONCERN. IT'S A PERCEPTION BUT THERE'S REALLY BEEN NO ISSUE. UM I THINK WE'LL HAVE SOME RESIDENTS SPEAKING TO THEIR OPINIONS, SO I'LL LET THAT THEM HAVE THAT. AND THANK YOU, AMANDA. YOU'VE SHARED SOME OF THE OTHER TOWNS. I CAN ADD A COUPLE OF LITTLE BIT OF TIDBITS FROM THAT. I GUESS I THINK CURRENTLY WE'RE ABOUT 13 ACRES, SO THE EXPANSION NEARLY DOUBLES IT. POWELL'S 136 ACRES. THERE'S GOES ABOUT LITTLE PAST A HALF MILE PAST THEIR DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS ZONING, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO OUR UPTOWN RESIDENTIAL ZONING. AND THERE'S ACTUALLY QUITE QUITE A BIT PAST EVEN MORE, AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS AS WELL. UM DUBLIN IS 41 ACRES, AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE EXPANDED. THEY HAVE SPECIFIC PATHS THAT TAKE YOU OUT OF THE ZONE, AND THEN YOU CAN WALK BACK TO YOUR APARTMENT.

ALONG THOSE PATHS ALONG RESIDENTIAL AGAIN. NO CONCERNS THERE AND THEN DELAWARE IS SIMILAR. IT'S 31 ACRES. UM, AND IT'S PASSED SOME RESIDENTIAL AS WELL. SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF CLARIFY WHAT THE PURPOSES AND KIND OF ALRIGHT PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND WHAT OTHERS ARE AND JUST KIND OF WANTED TO SAY HOPEFULLY JUST KIND OF SHOW SUPPORT IN FAVOR OF THIS DIRECTION AND AGAIN, JUST APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED. THEY ARE BEING AND YOUR B MM HMM. PERSON. CAN I PROPOSE SEE? I WOULD SAY PREFERRED SOMETIMES OPTION B MYSELF. OKAY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WHEN YOU GO AHEAD I THINK THAT WAS MOSTLY SET UP FOR PRESENTATIONS, BUT I THINK IT WORKS. LET'S SAY GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS STEVE STOELTJE AND PALLY. I LIVE IT 6 34 WEST EIGHTH STREET. WITHIN EASY WALKING DISTANCE OF THE WALKING DISTANCE GROUP BREWING COMPANY AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE YES TO APPROVE THE MORE EXPANSION TO INCLUDE THE WALKING DISTANCE BREWING COMPANY. BUSINESS OWNERS . DOUG ELSON, WHO WHO YOU JUST HEARD FROM, AND TEDDY VIOLENCE. QUIANO TEDDY'S HERE TONIGHT. BUO REPURPOSE THE OLD SKINNY SPAIN'S GARAGE BUILDING WITH HISTORIC VALUE, AND THEY'VE DONE THAT. THEY FOLLOWED THE RULES COMPLIED WITH ZONING AND BUILDING REGULATIONS ADHERED TO DESIGN REVIEW BOARD REQUIREMENTS, AND SINCE THEN THEY'VE ESTABLISHED A SMALL VIABLE NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS IN AN AREA WHICH FOR MANY YEARS HAS BEEN A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AREA. ONE OF ONLY A FEW OF THE OLD NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AREAS STILL LEFT IN MARYSVILLE. WE AS A COMMUNITY OF CITIZENS AND YOU ALL AS MARY'S WAS ELECTED LEADERS MUST ENCOURAGE AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY, SUPPORT OUR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES. AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE ON THE MORE EXPANSION ORDINANCE IS ONE OF THE FEW WAYS YOU CAN SUPPORT THE WALKING DISTANCE BREWING COMPANY AND OTHER NEARBY BUSINESSES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AREA. I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR DECISION ON MAYBE THE 11TH. MM SO I PROVIDED MACKENZIE WITH A COPY OF MY TESTIMONY AND WITH REGARD TO THE HOURS UM. I WOULD I LIKE OPTION A BUT ELIMINATE THE FEDERAL HOLIDAYS. JUST EVEN IF YOU. HELP. I GUESS I'LL GO NEXT. I'M NANCY BILLS WITH THE DRUG FREE COALITION. MY ADDRESS IS 464 SHELL BARK. UM SO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. UM. THE UNION COUNTY DRUG FREE COALITION, CERTAINLY SUPPORT STRONG AND VIBRANT DOWNTOWN BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND WE ENCOURAGE A VARIETY OF BUSINESSES AND CAUTION THAT FOCUSING TOO DEEPLY

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CRYSTAL. SORRY ACTUALLY, I DO HAVE SOMETHING, AND THIS IS NOT CONCERNED AS A MOM. OH, WANT YOUR. NO BECAUSE I GUESS I'VE TAUGHT THEM ABOUT ALCOHOL AND STUFF. MY CHILDREN ARE THEIR FRESHMAN AND IN SIXTH GRADE. UM THEY COME NEXT DOOR. WE DON'T PLAY BINGO WITH ME NEXT DOOR, AND THEY'LL HAVE LIKE SOME ROOT BEERS. AND EAT SOME OTHER FOOD TRUCK AND THEN WE GO HOME. I MEAN, THEY'LL COME OVER AND ANY TIME I'M OVER THERE, I MEAN, THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM COMING IN.

NOBODY'S EVER SHOWN THEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. FAMILY. I'M LIKE, OKAY? GOT IT. CITY AND EVERYONE. RICK KREGEL LIENS GARAGE 3 26 EAST FIFTH STREET. SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AROUND THE ROOM AND RECOGNIZE MANY, MANY FACES THAT I'VE KNOWN FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TONIGHT. I CAN ALSO RECOLLECT THE TIME WHEN AMANDA CAME TO TALK TO ME BEFORE THE DORA ORIGINATED AND STARTED AND SHE ASKED AN OLD MAN WHAT MY OPINION WAS OF THIS AND WHAT MY FEELINGS MIGHT BE. AND YOU KNOW , IN MY OWN LIFE, I'M SURE I SHARED. A FEW CONCERNS BUT ON ALL POSITIVE AND FEEL THAT IT'S GOOD FOR THE UPTOWN IT'S GOOD FOR THE BUSINESS. IT'S GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. I AM A SPECIALLY WHEN WE DO OUR UPTOWN EVENTS. UM FRIDAY NIGHT EVENTS OR SPECIAL EVENT AT THE PAVILION OR WHAT HAVE YOU IT WILL BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER AND. ALLOW PEOPLE TO COMMUTE THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY WITH A COCKTAIL. DOUG REALLY HIT IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD HIMSELF, AND THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY STRONGEST OPINION. ABOUT WHY YOUNG PEOPLE LOVE THE MORA OR DOOR OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT. BECAUSE THEY HAVE ONE OR TWO CHILDREN. DADDY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A BEER. THEY'VE BEEN UPTOWN . THE KIDS ARE ACTING UP JUST ENOUGH, BUT AS LONG AS THEY CAN PUSH THEM IN THEIR STROLLER THROUGH UPTOWN AND AROUND THE CORNER AND HE CAN HAVE A COCKTAIL. EVERYBODY'S HAPPY. THY AND YOU KNOW, AND DADDY IS ONLY GOING TO HAVE MAYBE ONE OR TWO.

SO WHETHER HE'S YOU KNOW. GET SOMETHING THAT LEON ZOR HE'S LEFT THE UPTOWN EVENT. YOU KNOW

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YOU KNOW THEY'VE HAD TOO MUCH TO DRINK. AS AS OWNERS OF ESTABLISHMENTS SERVING LIQUOR AND OUR BARTENDERS. WE STOP THAT RIGHT THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO SERVE ANYBODY. I MEAN, YOU KNOW IF WE FEEL THE NEED THAT YOU'RE DONE, YOU KNOW, WE HIGHLY RECOMMENDED A GLASS OF WATER.

AND AWAY YOU GO. WE'RE NOT GOING TO SERVE YOU. PLUS, EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT CUP. YOU KNOW EVERYBODY'S CUP. HAS A DIFFERENT COLOR. WHETHER IT'S RED, GREEN, BLUE PURPLE. WHAT HAVE YOU SO IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS ON THE STREET THE MURRAYS WILL POLICE DEPARTMENT THEY KNOW WHO SERVED THAT COCKTAIL. SO IT'S REALLY SAFEGUARDED IN MANY, MANY WAYS, AND WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO LIVE IN MARYSVILLE. WITH SO MANY WONDERFUL PEOPLE. WE DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS WITH A LOT OF HOODLUMS AND THIS SNAP, GETTING OUT OF CONTROL AND DRINKING AND WALKING AROUND THE STREETS AND TRACING TWO PROPERTIES AND WHAT HAVE YOU AND ALSO TO TALK ABOUT THE TRASH CANS. THE CITY OF MARRIAGE, THOUGH I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU DID THAT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT THEY DID GIVE US TWO TRASH CANS FOR LEONG'S SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO PUT THEIR CUP IN IT. I MEAN, YOU CANNOT WALK INTO ANOTHER ESTABLISHMENT SERVING LIQUOR. WITH ANY ALCOHOL LEFT IN YOUR GLASS. LET'S SAY THAT YOU GOT IT. HALF PAIN. YOU COME TO LEON . YOU'VE GOT TO DRINK IT BEFORE YOU COME IN. SO I APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION OF THIS . I THINK IT'S REALLY, REALLY GOOD FOR THE UPTOWN BUSINESS AND THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL AND HIS, TERRY HAS SAID. THINGS CAN BE CHANGED, YOU KNOW? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. A OR B UP HERE. WE. WE'RE CLOSE TALKING MONEY, YOU KNOW. I MEAN, FOOD. YOU KNOW, I'LL MAKE IT REALLY SIMPLE, I WILL SAY. AND RECENTLY I SAID BECAUSE 13 FRIDAY SATURDAY. IT'S REALLY WHEN PEOPLE GO OUT. YOU KNOW THE IMPACT OF MORE OF. THE FIRST UPTOWN FRIDAY NIGHT OF THEM, WE HAD EVERYBODY WILL BE ON THE STREETS THE NEXT MONTH. THERE'S STILL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN SUMMER GOES ON, THERE'S FEWER AND FEWER OR JUST YOU KNOW, NOBODY IS GOING TO WALK THE STREETS, CRYSTAL AND THE MONTH OF DECEMBER CLINTON PHONE NUMBEW THAT HAPPENED. I'M SORRY, GROWLER. EVENING GERMAN FERGUSON THREE OR FIVE SOFTPHONE AT ST SO I'M SPEAKING AS A RESIDENT IN THAT IN THE AREA, AND I AT FIRST, WHEN THIS WORLD OUT, I WAS HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE DAILY NOON TO LIKE THE DAILY NOON TO 10, BUT I'M GLAD THAT COUNCIL HAS AMENDED THE LEGISLATION TO KIND OF CUT BACK FROM THE DAYTIME TO THE EVENING. I LIVE WHEN WITH CHILDREN, UH, I'VE BEEN IN WALKING DISTANCE BERRY WITH MY FAMILY GETTING A HOPE THAT'S NOT BAD PARENTING SKILL, BUT I YOU KNOW, I'VE I HAD DINNER WITH MY FAMILY. MY SONS HAD A ROOT BEER. THE CULTURE AT WALKING DISTANCE FURY IS NOT ONE OF CONCERN. IT'S ENOUGH FOR ME TO FEEL SAFE TO GO PLAY FOURSQUARE FOURSQUARE OR THAT BUT THE CONNECT FOR ON THE BACK PATIO. UM AND IT'S SOMETHING EVEN TEDDY HAS SHOWN MY SON. YOU KNOW HOW THEY BREW BEER, AND IT'S FOR, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE YEAR OLD. THAT'S PRETTY COOL BECAUSE IT'S ENGINEERING RIGHT? UM I'M GLAD THAT THE STREET THE SIDEWALKS ARE BEING IMPROVED IN FORM AND THAT WE'VE SHORTENED THE MAP, SO THE WALKWAY IS VERY CONSISTENT. I LIVED IN THE UPTOWN AREA PRIMARILY BECAUSE I LIKE TO BE. I LIKE TO GO WALK IN THE UPTOWN EVENTS FRIDAY EVENTS. UM THIS HAPPENS UP OUR UPTOWN FRIDAY. THERE'S TONS OF KIDS AROUND. IT'S OUR JOBS AS PARENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CONTROLLING OUR CHILDREN AND ALSO TEACHING THEM JUST TO BE AWARE, UM THERE'S A COUPLE WEEKS AGO I WAS AT HOUSE OF SPIRITS, AND THERE WAS A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE KIND OF ROWDY, RIGHT. BUT THE BARTENDERS SILENT BEFORE THEY EVEN BOUGHT A DRINK. AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, BUSINESS, NOT SELLING. BECAUSE THEY SAW CAUTION. THERE'S THEY SAW SOMEONE THAT WAS NOT THERE ARE ALREADY OVER. CONSUMED UM I TOOK NOTE OF THAT, AND THAT'S GOOD BUSINESS, AND I'M NOT BIASED HERE. I DON'T KNOW. ONE EVEN KNEW I WAS THERE. SO I KNOW OUR

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DID YOU SAY OPTION B YOUR OPTION? A OKAY. OKAY UM, I'LL TELL ME YOU MY OPTION NOW, JUST IN CASE I FORGET LATER, BUT MY CHOICE WOULD BE FOR OPTION B. I'M AT 503 EAST WITH STREET AND I'M ALSO AN EMPLOYEE AT 3 26 EAST FIFTH STREET LIENS GARAGE. I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF TAKING THE DRUG FREE COALITIONS CLASSES. I FEEL THAT THOSE ARE A HUGE BENEFIT TO ALL OF US SERVERS AND MANAGERS. AND THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY I LIKE OPTION B. IS THAT IT? IT'S SIMPLE. YOU KNOW, I DON'T WE TELL OUR STAFF WHAT IT IS. AND THEN WE MOVE ON FROM THERE. UM I FEEL ALSO THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE FREQUENTING PLACES LIKE WALKING DISTANCE BREWERY AS THEY WALK THROUGH RESIDENCES. I BELIEVE THAT A LOT OF THEM ARE LOCALS. THEY ARE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYBODY'S PROPERTY. UM, UNFORTUNATELY. THERE IS TRASH. I LIVE ON FIFTH STREET. I GET PEOPLE WALKING BY MY HOUSE AT NIGHT. THEY PROBABLY COME FROM STEPHEN'S BECAUSE IT'S THAT TIME OF NIGHT AND THEY'RE SINGING. I MEAN, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE BARS AND RESTAURANTS. BUT IT'S UP TO US AS THE EMPLOYEES AND STAFF TO MANAGE THAT, AND I THINK THAT WE ALL WORK REALLY HARD TO DO THAT. UM AND AGAIN, MOST OF THE PLACES THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OUR FAMILY ORIENTED. WE HAVE FAMILIES COMING IN EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT SATURDAY NIGHT. YOU KNOW, DOUG HAS GAMES FOR HIS KIDS TO PLAY THAT COME IN THERE, SO I AS A RESIDENT I SUPPORT TOMORROW, FIVE DAYS AT ROOM OPTION B AND INCLUDING ALL THE NEW BUSINESSES. THANK YOU. HI CODY ADAMS 16 77 COUNTY HOME ROAD. UM I THINK THE NEW MORAL MAP IS AN EXCELLENT PLAN AS A LOCAL REAL ESTATE AGENT. I DO THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE A THRIVING DOWNTOWN. ESPECIALLY WHEN I HAVE MY OWN CLIENTELE WHO WAS MOVING FROM LIKE WESTERVILLE DUBLIN. YOU KNOW OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE A REALLY GOOD, THRIVING COMMUNITY IN DOWNTOWN AREA. THE YOUNGER GENERATION OF PEOPLE WANT THAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENT DOWNTOWN. UM OFF, AND THAT'S OFTEN A QUESTION. I GET ASKED BECAUSE TO BE OBVIOUS , YOU KNOW, IN MY OPINION, A LOT OF MY YOUNGER CLIENTELE AND THEY THINK MARY'S WILL SORRY. OLD PEOPLE. THEY HONESTLY DO, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET MY YOUNGER CLIENTS TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU KNOW, MARY'S WAS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, WHICH IT IS, BUT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. WE DO HAVE A THRIVING DOWNTOWN AND I CAN REALLY SELL SOME UPTOWN FRIDAY NIGHTS AND PEOPLE HONESTLY, I HAD NO IDEA THAT I THOUGHT UPTOWN FRIDAY NIGHT WAS THE ONLY TIME WE COULD DRINK UPTOWN. I HAD NO IDEA. YOU JUST DON'T SEE IT ADVERTISED. I MEAN, THAT COULD BE A REASON WHY THERE'S YOU KNOW NOTHING GOING ON. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT INCLUDING THE BREWERY'S BECAUSE YOU KNOW MORE OF YOUR YOUNGER GENERATIONS ARE INTO THOSE CRAFTS AND I PS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOOD. ESPECIALLY FOR A YOUNGER CROWD WHO ARE MOVING AND HERE ESPECIALLY LIKE THE SCOTS FARM LINKS. WE'VE ALREADY STUFF LIKE THAT THEY WANT TO SEE THOSE KIND OF THINGS ARE COMMUNITY AS WELL. AND GET E SIMPLICITY. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? I'VE SEEN IT. THIS ONE COOL. TEDDY WOLLENSKY. RIGHT NOW I LIVE TO 30 SWORDS AND DR UM WITHIN. I THINK ON FRIDAY, I WILL BE MOVING TO 3 17 WALNUT STREET. UG DISTANCE. WHEN I MOVED HERE THREE YEARS AGO NOW I WAS 23 JUST OUT OF COLLEGE. UM AND I WAS WANTING TO BUY A HOUSE RIGHT AWAY AS I STARTED MY JOB AT HONDA. THE FIRST NIGHT WHEN I WAS HOUSE HUNTING, UM WE STAYED IN MARYSVILLE, BUT WE'RE KIND OF DOING OUR SEARCH ALL AROUND DUBLIN. AND HILLIARD AND MARYSVILLE AS WELL. UM BUT WE STAYED IN MARYSVILLE. JUST KIND OF TO GET THAT. LOOK THE FIRST NIGHT WE WENT TO DINNER HALF PINT. THE SECOND NIGHT WE WENT TO DINNER AT LEON'S, AND IN THOSE TWO NIGHTS THAT KIND OF SOLD ME ON UPTOWN AND MARYSVILLE MIGHT BE KIND OF COOL. UM AS I MOVED IN. UPTOWN FRIDAY NIGHT WAS ONE OF THE COOLEST THINGS

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UM AND. MY FRIENDS AND I WENT TO THAT PRETTY MUCH EVERY UPTOWN FRIDAY NIGHT. UM THE CHRISTMAS WALK THAT YEAR WAS A COOL THING TO SEE. UM, JUST IT WAS COOL THAT IT SEEMS LIKE IT INTEGRATES YOUNG PEOPLE IN TO TOWN LIKE IT'S NOT JUST PEOPLE WITH KIDS. IT'S ALSO CATERING TO ALL AGES.

PEOPLE, EMPTY NESTERS AS WELL AS THAT YOUNGER PEOPLE, YOUNGER GENERATION. YEAH, UM. AND THAT WAS A BIG INFLUENCE ON WHY I WANTED TO START. LIKE WHEN I WANTED TO START WALKING DISTANCE WITH DOUG WAS LIKE MARYSVILLE WAS A COOL PLACE TO OPEN A BUSINESS AND SO ALL OF THAT KIND OF ENCOURAGED. JUST OPENING THERE. UM AND I'VE. THE MORE I'VE LIVED HERE, THE MORE I'VE WANTED TO LIVE IN UPTOWN AND SWAM MOVING RIGHT AROUND THE BLOCK FROM WALKING DISTANCE. I WISH I WAS GOING TO BE ON PUMP STREET, BUT YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET EVERYTHING YOU WANT. UM, SO IT'S JUST. I REALLY SEEING ALL THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT HERE. IT'S AWESOME HAVING THAT, AND IT'S ALSO JUST THAT'S NOT WALKING DISTANCE. IT DIDN'T START THERE . IT STARTED FROM THE COMMUNITY BEFORE THEN, ON ALL OF THAT SUPPORT UM WE PUT OUT A PETITION? UM, JUST WE FELT LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE SUPPORTED THE EXPANSION. WE WEREN'T SURE WHERE IT WAS. UM ON THIS PETITION THEIR ORIGINAL, UH. PROPOSAL FOR THE EXTENSION OF MAURA, INCLUDING MAIN STREET. THERE ARE THREE RESIDENCES REPRESENTED BY FIVE PEOPLE THAT ALL LIVED IN THAT EXTENSION OF MAURA ON THIS PETITION. AH THERE WERE 488 SIGNATURES. WE POSTED IT. UHH THIS SUNDAY TWO WEEKS AGO. AND OF THAT, UM, I HAVE ALL OF THE STATISTICS. SO WORD 1 97 RESPONSES OUT OF TOWN AND OTHER 90 RESPONSES. MOST PEOPLE PUT THEIR ADDRESS. A LOT OF THOSE ARE MILFORD CENTER. RICHWOOD MARYSVILLE KIND OF AREAS TO, UM , WORD FOR 88 RESPONSES WERE TO 85 RESPONSES WERE 3 43. AND 38 RESPONSES SAID I DON'T KNOW. UM WE DID POST THE MAP, SO NO EXCUSE THERE, BUT. YOU KNOW, UM , A LOT OF GOOD RESPONSES ON THIS. I HAVE A COPY FOR EACH OF YOU AND AN 814. I GUESS RECORDING. UM, BUT I AM ALSO IN FAVOR OF OPTION B JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE UPTOWN HOLIDAY WALK THAT HAPPENS ON THE MONDAY I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT REALLY HELPS SMALL BUSINESSES BEYOND JUST OUR ESTABLISHMENTS. UM. YOU HAVE A BEER WHILE YOU'RE ABLE TO BROWSE PLUM HOME OR THAT UNION STATION ON UPTOWN FRIDAY NIGHT OR THE UPTOWN HOLIDAY WALK? I THINK THAT'S GONNA HELP WITH CHRISTMAS SALES A LOT FOR THE RETAILERS. AND SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE ELIMINATING THAT ONE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE LONGEST RUNNING EVENTS THAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR AND MARYSVILLE. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU GUYS FOR CONSIDERING IT AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE PETITIONS. YOU TYPED ALL THESE UP? YEAH NO FORMS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VERY. THANKS DADDY. OKAY THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER CITIZENS THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC? MR MAYOR. I'LL MAKE ONE COMMENT. WE HAVE HAD A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DRUG COALITION WHEN SHE HAD MENTIONED THE TRAINING. WE HAVE NOT MADE THAT A REQUIREMENT, BUT WE'VE OFFERED IT WITH THEM FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, NANCY, AT LEAST YOU IF NOT MAYBE THREE YEARS AND HAVE HAD SEVERAL PARTICIPANTS COME THROUGH THAT WITHIN OUR MORRIS. SO I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT COME UP LATER. AS A QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THAT. THANK YOU. YEAH. REALLY GOOD. OKAY, SD TO LOOK AT AN AMENDMENT FOR

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WE HAD OR IN THE BUSINESSES DECIDED TO STAY OPEN OR AROUND JULY 4TH OR THE CHRISTMAS WALK CONCEPT. THE FLEXIBILITIES THERE JUST BY INCLUDING EVERY DAY THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SHIFTING THINGS AND IT DOESN'T CONFUSE PEOPLE THE FEDERAL HOLIDAY THING AND I WAS JUST LENA, YOU KNOW WHO'S GOING TO KNOW ON PRESIDENT'S DAY, YOU KNOW THAT IT'S ON PRESIDENT TODAY. IT'S NOW 12 TO 10. YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS TO THINK ABOUT. AND I THINK I THINK YOU HEARD FROM THE BUSINESS OWNERS, AND IT JUST SIMPLIFIES THE WHOLE PROCESS. I MEAN, VERY MUCH, SO I WILL SAY THAT I WENT WHEN I WENT TO TROY, OHIO. THEY'RE MORE IS THERE'S CARDS ON ALL THE TABLES OF ALL THE RESTAURANTS THAT CLEARLY STATES THE DAYS AND TIMES AND HOLIDAYS, OF WHICH THE MORE IS IN TROY, OHIO? AS WE ALL KNOW, TOURISM MAIN STREET AND YOU KNOW THEY HAVE A LOT OF SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES, AND THEY HAVE A DOWNTOWN GROCERY STORE RIGHT IN THE HEART OF TROY, OHIO, SO UM. THAT'S JUST TO ADD TO TERRY'S COMMENT. THERE ARE WAYS OF COMMUNICATING IT TO THE RESIDENT. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST ADD, LIKE TERRY AND I KIND OF GOT HEIGHTEN CHARGE OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A COMPROMISE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETING IDEAS AND INTERESTING QUESTIONS, AND WE TALKED ALMOST EVERY DAY OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS, TRYING TO COME UP WITH, LIKE WHAT WE THOUGHT WOULD WORK THE BEST FOR YOU KNOW, KIND OF SIMPLIFYING THIS. UM AND YOU KNOW, WE CAME UP WITH THE TWO OPTIONS. UM AND I TALKED TO A COUPLE BUSINESSES TO KIND OF GET THEIR THOUGHTS. UM. AFTER THAT, UM I SAW THAT WE GOT AN EMAIL TODAY FROM TRINITY AS WELL . WE'RE UM THEY THEY'RE HAPPY THAT WE'VE GOT THESE OPTIONS.

THEY ACTUALLY DID SAY THAT THEY'RE GOOD WITH OPTION B. THEY THEY LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT WOW.

IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH THEIR HOURS. UM SO, UM, WE ALL GOT THAT, I THINK AROUND 6 15 THIS EVENING AN EMAIL FROM THEM. SO YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T EASY TO COME UP WITH A COMPROMISE BECAUSE WE HAD AN INITIAL IDEA THERE. WE ALL TALKED ABOUT IT THE WORK SESSION AND THEN THE NEXT MEETING. YOU KNOW, LIKE FIVE DIFFERENT IDEAS CAME OUT AND, YOU KNOW, THEN WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC THIS IDEA AND THAT IDEA. UM WE TRIED TO DO LIKE THE BEST THAT WE CAN YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE DONE THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAVE HAD, WHICH ACTUALLY SHOULD SAY THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD? BECAUSE YOU KNOW THEY HAVEN'T HAD CRIME OR TRASH OR PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE YOU KNOW, CAUSING PROBLEMS AND YOU KNOW THAT WAS ENCOURAGING. YOU KNOW THAT. BUT WE LEARNED THAT AND ALSO LOOKING AT LIKE OR TERRY SAID, YOU KNOW LAST THURSDAY WAS AMORA. DID YOU KNOW WHAT. WE'RE NOT HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE CURRENT THIS. WHATEVER WE DO ISN'T GONNA

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NOW MOST OF THE COMMENTS ESPECIALLY NANCY, I THINK YOU PUT IT IN VERY GOOD PERSPECTIVE OF THE OVERALL PURPOSE AND THE IMPACTS AND ASSOCIATED SITUATIONS SO THAT WAS VERY GOOD. AH! BUT MOST OF THOSE WHO SPOKE WERE EITHER THE RIOTERS OR FREQUENCIES. AND BY THE WAY, I'M AN OLD GUY, BUT I'M FREQUENTLY ALSO UNLIKE THE YOUNG ONES THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. UM SO. BY LIMITING IT BY REMOVING TWO DAYS OF THE WEEK. I LIKE TO THINK THAT I'M SPEAKING TO THE SILENT MAJORITY, WHO MAY NOT BE FREQUENT BUT INDULGE AND ENJOY THE EXPERIENCE AS WELL. SO THAT'S WHERE MY PROMOTION OF CHOICE, A COMES IN. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS DOWN, JUST TABLE. THIS JR GETS BACK. IT WAS JUST POLITICAL BALANCE HERE. YOU KNOW, UM. THERE'S NO REASON WE CAN'T MAKE AN AMENDMENT AT THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY WE WANT TO DO THAT. IT WOULD MEAN THAT WHEN THE AMENDMENT IS MADE, IT WILL BE SECOND READING AGAIN PUBLIC HEARING. SO I'M LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW IF WE DO THAT. COME BACK NEXT WEEK. IS THAT? I MEAN, IS EVERYONE OKAY? WITH WAITING UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING? I'M GOOD FOR THAT, OKAY? SO WE WILL TAKE THAT UP QUESTIONS WITH OKAY. IF THAT'S UNDERSTOOD, THEN THAT THAT WILL DIFFER, OKAY? UM SO THIS IS EVERY CALENDAR DATE.

THIS IS A CALENDAR YEAR EVENT, NOT A START MADE SORT OF THING WITH HOW THE EXCEPTIONS IT'S YOUR ROUND, RIGHT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT AND WELL , LIKE I SAID, IT'S ON OUR AGENDA TO REVIEW HOW IT WORKS. WHATEVER CHANGES WE MAKE, WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW IT IN NOVEMBER.

MM. WHICHEVER WAY WE GO. SO THIS WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING ON MONDAY, APRIL 11TH WITH POSSIBLE AMENDMENT, WHICH MEANS IT'S ALSO A PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON. ORDINANCE J

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APPENDIX GLOSSARY OF TERMS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING CODE CONTAINED WITHIN THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. THIS DID GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS ANYTHING DAD OR NOTHING TO ADDRESS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR TIM? OKAY. ANY COUNCIL COMMENTS? CITIZEN COMMENTS. MM HMM. OKAY. PLANE. I DID SEND AN EMAIL. ABOUT A CASE THAT WAS UNDER THE U. S DISTRICT COURT ABOUT THIS DEFINITION IN TRYING TO RESTRICT NON RELATED FAMILY MEMBERS, AND IT WAS DEEMED IT WAS SHOT DOWN. THE MUNICIPALITY WAS SHOT DOWN. IT WAS CONSIDERED ARBITRARY. UM SO YOU CAN'T HAVE UNRELATED YOU HAVE A CAP, BUT YOU COULD HAVE 12 RELATED. SO I MEAN, I SENT THAT ARTICLE TO EVERYONE. SO I THINK IF YOU DO THIS, YOU ARE OPENING UP YOURSELVES FOR MY ABILITY HERE AND I WOULD STRONGLY DISCOURAGE THAT'S FOR THAT PURPOSE. I CAN SPEAK TO THEM, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, TIM. THE CASE THAT SHE'S REFERRING TO IS THE OTHER VERSUS BOWLING GREEN. IT'S A FEDERAL

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SO IN THAT CASE, IF BASED ON THE DEFINITION THAT WE HAVE HERE, FIVE OR MORE UNRELATED. PEOPLE WANTED TO LIVE TOGETHER AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPLY FOR CONDITIONAL USE. AND THE PROCESS . THE EVALUATION WOULD BE BASED ON WHETHER THERE'S ENOUGH HABITABLE LIVING SPACE ENOUGH, UH, ENOUGH BEDROOM LOVE SQUARE FOOTAGE TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW THE NUMBER OF UNRELATED PEOPLE LIVING TOGETHER. AND NO CONSIDERATION IN THAT CASE WOULD BE GIVEN TO, UM YOU KNOW WHETHER THEY'RE RELATED WE'VE HAD COMPLAINTS IN THE CITY ABOUT PREDATORY LEASING PRACTICES, AND I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME OVERSIGHT BY THE CITY ON THE NUMBER OF UNRELATED PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN, YOU KNOW, SMALL, A SMALL AMOUNT OF SPACE. SO UM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. WE'RE SIMPLY DEFINING FAMILY AND DEFINING ROOMING HOUSE AND DISTINGUISHING THE TWO AND THEN WE'LL BE COMING FORWARD LATER, WITH LEGISLATION TO ALLOW ROOMING HOUSES TO BE CONDITIONAL USES. THEY THINK YOU CAM. YES. IT'S HAD A QUICK QUESTION, TIM, WHERE DO YOU SEE THIS ISSUE? THE MOST. WELL, THAT'S PROBABLY QUESTION MORE FOR ZACH. UM BUT THERE HAVE BEEN THERE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINTS AROUND TOWN ABOUT A LOT OF UNRELATED PEOPLE LIVING TOGETHER AND THERE THAT WE DO HAVE PROVISIONS IN OUR CODE. OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT. CHAPTER THAT RELATES TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO CAN LIVE IN IN AH! HOUSES AND REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY'RE RELATED OR NOT. THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO CAN LIVE IN HOUSES BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE AND WHATNOT, SO WE'RE GOING TO EMPLOY THAT WHEN IT COMES TO ROOMING HOUSES, SO RIGHT, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS IF COUNCIL PASSES THIS ZONING AMENDMENT RECOMMENDATION THAT COMES FROM PLANNING COMMISSION, THEN UM, IF YOU HAVE FOUR UNRELATED PEOPLE LIVING TOGETHER WITH ANOTHER FAMILY THAN IT'S NO PROBLEM, SO IT JUST BECOMES AN ISSUE WHEN WE HAVE MORE THAN FOUR UNRELATED PEOPLE LIVING TOGETHER, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE TOLD THEY CAN'T LIVE TOGETHER UNLESS THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SQUARE FOOTAGE OR ENOUGH BEDROOM SPACE OR HAVE OF LIVING SPACE FOR THEM. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I I'D HAVE TO GET ZACK AND WE COULD PROBABLY GIVE YOU A BETTER ANSWER. BUT WE'VE HAD ISSUES. I KNOW THEY DON'T KNOW ALL THOSE SPECIFIC COMPLAINTS. DON'T COME TO MIC. ATTENTION THEY MOSTLY GO TO ZACH AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT. I JUST THINK COULD BE INTERESTING TO FIND OUT WHICH NEIGHBORHOODS ARE IMPACTED BY THIS, THE MOST COMPARED TO OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS, OTHER SUBDIVISIONS AND OUR AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. ZACK WOULDN'T KNOW THAT THANK YOU JUST FOR PUBLIC RECORD. OKAY? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNTS? YES. YEAH. YEAH, OKAY. SO THIS WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING ON MONDAY, APRIL 11TH. AND. I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY YOU KNOW, WE GOT A LOT OF STUFF ON THE AGENDA HERE. AND IF YOU CAME FOR THE MORE DISCUSSION AND YOU WANT TO LEAVE NOW, GO AHEAD AND GO. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HURT OUR FEELINGS HONESTLY. I MEAN, THREE. SO YEAH. I MEAN, WE GOT SOME BORING STUFF, YOU KNOW? I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY. WE GOT MORE SEATS FOR ANYBODY. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SIT, WE DO HAVE A FEW OPEN SEATS HERE. OKAY? WE'VE GOT A FEW SEATS UP FRONT HERE IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO SIT, NO. OKAY, LET'S GO ON. ORDINANCE K SECOND READING TO APPROVE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TO REZONE

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WE HAD IT AT THE LAST MEETING MADE AN AMENDMENT. UH, WE WAIVE THE THIRD READING AT THE LAST MEETING. SO TONIGHT TONIGHT THAT WE HAVE PUBLIC INPUT AND WE'RE ALSO VOTE. DO WE HAVE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE COMMENTS? NOTHING FURTHER. ANY COUNCIL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ANY CITIZENS. OKAY I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION, OKAY. ROLL CALL. MRS GROAT? YES MR BERGER? YES MR REEMS? YES MR BURBEY? YES MR CARPENTER? YES MR SEYMOUR? YES 60. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES.

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5709.4 TO 5709.43. 5709.832 AND 5709.85. AND WE DID HAVE AN AMENDMENT THAT WAS APPROVED AT THE LAST MEETING. SO LET'S MOVE ON TO ADMINISTRATIVE COMMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M GOING

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THERE'S JUST A LOT OF POSITIVES ABOUT THIS, BUT IN THE SHORT TERM REAL QUICK, I'M GOING TO SHIFT IT OVER TO ANDY BURROWS, R, AND IT'S NICE TO SEE IT. I'M SORRY YOU HAD TO WAIT A WHILE.

ANDY, DO YOU MIND BREAKING THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE AND NO. UM YOU KNOW, WE HAD AN INDIVIDUAL FROM BREAKER AT OUR LAST MEETING , AND HE DIDN'T THEY SHOT BUT YOU'RE YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS FROM THE GET GO. DO YOU MIND BREAKING IT DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT ON HOW THE CAREFUL WORKS AND THE BENEFITS OF IT SO EVENING, ANDY BRUCE STARTED WITH BRADLEY ADVISORS, MANY OF NOTICE WHERE THAT MISSILE ADVISOR TO THE CITY SO WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT FOR I THINK FROM THE EXIT FROM THE START, UM, LOOKING AT DIFFERENT FISCAL ANALYSIS RELATED TO THE PROJECT. YOU KNOW, WE RAN THE ANALYSIS. WE OFTEN RUN WHEN IT COMES TO THE TIFFS, WHETHER IT'S A UM, WHICH MIGHT BE BEST TO GO AND SEE. THERE ARE 10 YEARS SITTING 5% OF OR GOING LONGER, IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO GO WITH A 30 YEAR AND THEN DISCUSS SCHOOL COMPENSATION. SO AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE ANALYSIS ON THIS, YOU KNOW, WE THOUGHT THAT A 10 YEARS 25% OF DISTRICT WAS THE MOST EFFECTIVE, APPROPRIATE WAY TO PAY FOR THE NEEDED INCENTIVE.

AND TO GET THAT MOVING AND THEN QUICKLY OFF THE BOOKS IF YOU WILL, AND PAYING BACK TO ALL THE DIFFERENT VARIOUS ENTITIES AND AGAIN KEEPING IN MIND THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS 10 YEAR STUDY 5% SAFE DISTRICT 25% IS STILL GOING TO ALL THE JURISDICTIONS THAT THAT IS THE WAY IF THERE WAS A TIP, WHETHER IT IF IN PLACE AND FIRST PLACE AS IT RELATED TO, YOU KNOW THIS TYPE OF REDEVELOPMENT, AND WE SPOKE LAST TIME ABOUT SOME OF THE DIFFERENT, UM, PROJECTS WE'VE SEEN ACROSS THE STATE. I THINK KERR PROVIDED A POWER POINT THAT SHOWED OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE THIS TYPE OF A TIFF DISTRICT IN TERMS OF REDEVELOPMENT, SO IT'S NOT AN UNUSUAL REQUEST. THAT HAPPENS QUITE OFTEN, ESPECIALLY FOR CITIES WHO HAVE THIS PERSPECTIVE PARTICULAR. TIFF LEGISLATION ABILITY IN THE STATE OF OHIO TO PUT INTO A TIFF DISTRICT OR PROJECT DIRECTLY. HAPPY ASKED, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATIVE TO THE FINANCIAL NUMBERS. I KNOW THE MUNICIPAL ADVISOR FOR DEVELOPER COULDN'T MAKE IT TONIGHT, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS RELATIVE TO THOSE NUMBERS FOR YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ONE MILLION FINE POINT ON THIS. UM YES, SOME OF THE TIPS. THE CITY HAS ISSUED THE DEBT DIRECTLY IN THE PAST.

UNDER THIS SCENARIO, THERE WOULD BE A KILOMETER ARRANGEMENT WHERE THE CITY WOULD ENTER INTO INTO THAT WITH PORT AUTHORITY, AND THERE WOULD BE NO DEBT ISSUED BY THE CITY, SO IT'S SIMPLY JUST TRANSFERRING REVENUES AS IT COMES IN OVERTIME. THANK YOU. THE ONLY OTHER THING I KNOW PETE PEOPLE ROSE IS HERE WITH THE VISION DEVELOPMENT. SO IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR VISION DEVELOPMENT, I'M SURE HE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YES YES, 11 MORE COMMENT. I'VE MADE THIS BEFORE. HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE HAVING CONSISTENCY, MR HART. YOURSELF.

WON'T QUALIFY THAT STATEMENT. UM THE OTHER THE OTHER PIECES. FOR A PERSON TO COME IN AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND EXPLANATION. WE APPRECIATE YOUR EXPERTISE. AND LISTEN TO YOU, SIR. OKAY COUNCIL COMMENTS, QUESTIONS. THAT'S FINE. OUT HERE. ANYONE? OKAY WELL, LET'S OPEN THIS UP.

UH WELL, I ASSUME THAT THE REASON WHY EVERYBODY IS STILL HERE FOR THE VERY LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO TALK ABOUT THIS, SO WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THIS UP FOR SOME CITIZENS DISCUSSION AGAIN, LIKE THE. THE PREVIOUS ITEM, YOU KNOW, COME UP STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND PLEASE USE THE PODIUM. HI KATIE CROCK 0 16 72 MEADOWLARK LANE BEEN A

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SO THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS THAT WE HAVE A SEVERE SUPPLY AND DEMAND PROBLEM AND I'VE HEARD PEOPLE COMMENT. WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE HOUSING. WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE APARTMENTS. WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE ANYTHING. ALL OF THAT IS INACCURATE. DO WE NOT WANT ANY MORE OF THAT STUFF? PROBABLY. BUT NEEDS VERSUS WANTS HER TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS. UM SO IF YOU TURN TO THE BACK PAGE IONA MORTGAGE COMPANY SO I HAVE ACCESS TO THIS DATA AND CAN MAKE IT REAL TIME RELEVANT. SO IF YOU TAKE THE MEDIAN HOME SALE PRICE FROM 2021 AND YOU HAVE YOUR MAKE SOME ASSUMPTIONS FOR ANNUAL TAXES. ASSUME IT'S A MULTIPLE OFFER SITUATION, WHICH IT WILL BE IN THAT PRICE RANGE IN MARYSVILLE. I JUST HAD 17 OFFERS. YESTERDAY ON ONE PROPERTY BECAUSE I LISTED IT AT 2 79 9. SO IT WILL BE MULTIPLE OFFER, ASSUME A 5% DOWN CONVENTIONAL LOAN BECAUSE TO BE COMPETITIVE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE CONVENTIONAL. NOW NO ONE LIKES OUR VETERANS AND OUR GOVERNMENT LOANS. SADLY. THE INTEREST RATES HAVE GONE UP 5% IT WAS ACTUALLY 5.125 THIS MORNING, BUT SO USE 5. BREAKDOWN OF YOUR PAYMENT. YOU'RE LOOKING AT OVER $2100 A MONTH FOR THE MEDIAN HOME SALE PRICE IN MARYSVILLE. SO WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE SAY RENTS TOO EXPENSIVE MAYBE COMPARED TO YOUR HOUSE PAYMENT. BUT WHAT THEY'RE OPTION IS TO OWN HOME RENT IS CHEAPER FOR THE MOST PART. SO IF YOU LOOK AT WOODSIDE COMPARING TO RENT ASSUMING THEY HAVE A PET , AND THAT'S THEIR BIGGEST UNIT THAT'S 18 56 A MONTH. THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY CHEAPER FOR SOME FOLKS THAT JUST DON'T QUALIFY.

AND WE SEE IT DAY IN AND DAY OUT IN OUR INDUSTRY. THEY DON'T QUALIFY. NEXT STEP IS THE CAPITAL REQUIRED TO BUY A HOME IN THIS MARKET. IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE CASH AT CLOSING, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE YOUR 5% DOWN 15,000. THEN YOU GOT TO PAY YOUR OWN CLOSING COSTS SELLERS NOT PAYING THAT ANYMORE. YOU ALSO HAVE WHAT'S CALLED AN APPRAISAL GAP. THAT'S COMMON NOW. I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT BASICALLY NOT GETTING A HOUSE WITHOUT IT IN A MULTIPLE OFFER SITUATION. THE AVERAGE THAT I'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST THREE MONTHS IS 15,000 THE ONE THAT WON MY BID TODAY. $35,000 APPRAISAL GAP. PLUS, THEY'RE CLOSING COSTS PLUS THEIR DOWN PAYMENT. SO JUST TO GET IN THE MEDIAN HOME SALE PRICE, WHICH IS NOW A STARTER HOME. YOU'RE LOOKING AT $33,500 WORTH OF CAPITAL REQUIRED. THAT IS NOT AN EASY TASK COMING OUT HAVING A DECENT JOB, BUT YOU HAVE STUDENT LOANS. RENT IS HIGH. IT'S GOING TO TAKE PEOPLE LONGER TO SAVE UP THAT CAPITAL. TO BUY A HOME, SO THAT MEANS THEY'RE GOING TO BE STAYING IN AN APARTMENT LONGER AND THEY WANT IT TO BE NICE BECAUSE THEY MAKE GOOD MONEY. IT'S A IT IS A AND IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE. THIS IS THE NEW NORM, AND I KNOW IT'S TOUGH AND I KNOW CHANGE IS HARD AND WE AS REALTORS DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS.

BUT THAT IS THE REALITY. I NEED. PLACES FOR THEM TO LIVE SO THAT THEY CAN SAVE UP SO THAT I MIGHT SELL THEM SOMETHING SOMEDAY. UM THE OTHER THING IS FIVE YEARS AGO, AARON CARPENTER COULD HAVE COME TO ME AND I COULD HAVE SOLD HIM A HOUSE IN THE LOW TO HUNDREDS WITH SELLER PAYING THE CLOSING COSTS AND HE COULD RENT TO TWO OF HIS BUDDIES. AND START EARNING MAKING EQUITY IN HIS HOME. THAT'S NOT HOW THIS HAPPENS NOW. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT YOU HAVE THREE BUDDIES GOING TO RENT A PLACE. AND SPLIT THE RENT AND SAVE UP BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS OPTION IS NO LONGER VIABLE. SO FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THAT CAN HELP FOR PEOPLE WHO JUST DON'T

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GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS SPENCER FISHER. I'M WITH MEMORIAL HOSPITAL HERE IN MARYSVILLE 500 IN LONDON AVENUE AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE HOSPITAL. UM FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HELP THE CITY HAS PROVIDED TO US. OVER THE YEARS, TERRY EMORY. JEREMY AND THEIR TEAMS HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC , AND I'VE WORKED WITH SOME OF YOU ON THE COUNCIL AS WELL AS WE APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT AND ALL THE TOUGH DECISION MAKING THAT YOU'RE DOING DURING THESE MEETINGS. UM I'M HERE FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE. UM AND I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE JUST MADE. WE ARE STRUGGLING ON FINDING FOLKS WHO WANT TO COME INTO THE COMMUNITY AND WORK. ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF BEING IN MARYSVILLE HAS BEEN THAT OUR ORGANIZATION HAS GROWN QUITE A BIT OVER THE LAST 10 15 YEARS AND THAT INCLUDED TWO NEW BUILDINGS THAT WE RECENTLY OPENED. BUT WHAT YOU SEE IN THE HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY IS A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE LEFT, UM WHETHER IT'S BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC EARLY RETIREMENT BECAUSE OF THE MARKET . THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THEORIES ABOUT LIFE. FOLKS HAVE LEFT THE MARKET, BUT IT'S HIT HEALTHCARE. REALLY REALLY HARD.

UM WE HAVE UPWARDS OF 100 OPEN POSITIONS RIGHT NOW, JUST IN OUR ORGANIZATION, AND I KNOW THAT IN THE PROBABLY 20 MILE REGION. THERE ARE OVER 10,000 JOBS THAT ARE OPEN, SO WE'RE COMPETING WITH SOME OF THOSE OPEN POSITIONS WERE COMPETING WITH HOSPITALS AND COLUMBUS THAT ARE FACING SOME OF THE SAME CHALLENGES. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEAR OFTEN FROM CANDIDATES, AND THAT IS A LARGE ISSUE FOR US IS WE CAN RECRUIT THEM HERE, BUT THEY OFTEN DON'T LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY. SO THESE ARE GOOD JOBS AND PEOPLE DECIDE TO LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND THE RIGHT HOUSING OPTION. OR THEY CAN'T FIND IT IN THE TIMELINE THAT THEY WANT WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT A JOB. UM SO WE ARE IN FAVOR OF REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROJECT. UM, MARYSVILLE PLAZA. I THINK YOU KNOW THEY'RE GREAT BENEFITS FROM A COMMUNITY STANDPOINT, BUT I AGREE. THERE'S DEFINITELY A SHORTAGE ON THE HOUSING FRONT, AND THIS WOULD GO A LONG WAY. UM HELPING TO BEGIN TO RELEASE SOME OF THAT PRESSURE. I DON'T THINK

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AND WHEN WE RECRUIT A NEW CLINICAL PERSON, A NURSE, FOR EXAMPLE, IT CAN TAKE UPWARDS OF SIX MONTHS. OF HAVING THAT PERSON ON THE JOB ON THE PAYROLL BEFORE THEY CAN EFFECTIVELY MOVE INTO PATIENT CARE, SO THEY NEED TO LEARN OUR SYSTEMS OR POLICIES OR PROCEDURES. AND WE MAKE, SO WE'RE MAKING A BIG INVESTMENT IN BRINGING THESE FOLKS HERE AND HAVING THEM LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY IS A HUGE RETENTION BENEFIT FOR US. WE FIND THOSE THAT UM HAVING APARTMENT OR HOUSE OR MORE LIKELY TO STAY LONG TERM. SO UM, FROM THE HOSPITAL STANDPOINT, I ASKED THAT YOU CONSIDER THE STRONGLY AND INCLUDING THE TIFF. WE THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WELL TO MOVE THIS PROJECT ALONG. SO THANK YOU SPEND TIME WITH QUESTION. SURE SO, UH, COUNCIL A FEW YEARS BACK REVIEWED DATA FROM A REPORT FROM THE COLUMBUS 2050 REPORT THAT SUGGESTED THE NUMBER OF UNITS OF MULTI FAMILY HOUSING THAT WE NEEDED TO BUILD TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY INTO THE YEAR. 2050 AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNEW THIS, BUT WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED 90% OF WHAT'S NEEDED.

IT'S NOT ALL COME ON BOARD YET. SOME STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION HAS OPEN BUT WERE YOU AWARE OF THAT? YES YES, I WAS AWARE, UM, THAT THERE WERE A LOT THERE WAS A LARGE NEED, AND I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE APPROVED APARTMENTS MORE RECENTLY. IT'S PRETTY EVIDENT, SO THAT'S A GOOD THING, BUT I THINK IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE. THAT PATH. IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET PEOPLE INTO THE COMMUNITY TO LIVE, IT'S GOING TO REALLY IMPACT THE HOSPITALS, BUSINESS AND OUR ABILITY TO GROW IN THE FUTURE. SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE HEADED WITH THAT, UM BUT I THINK THIS IS A, UM, A PROJECT THAT CAN HELP US NOW WITH PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING NOW. WE'VE APPROVED OVER 2000 UNITS JUST TO LET YOU KNOW. I MEAN, IT'S NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT AND UNDERSTAND 90% OF WHAT WE NEED. 30 YEARS FROM NOW. SO YOU KNOW, WE. WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN MAKING PROGRESS ON THAT. WE KIND OF FRONT LOADED THAT A LITTLE BIT. AND I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT'S OPEN TODAY, AND THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT WHAT'S OPENING UP THREE MONTHS FROM NOW. SIX MONTHS FROM NOW.

AND SO FORTH. THERE'S A LOT COMING. UM I WOULD JUST ALSO ADD, YOU KNOW AS THE UPTOWN, YOU KNOW, RESIDENT IN THE CITY OF MARY'S, WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF VACANCIES IN THE HEART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THE 2ND AND 3RD FLOOR. THOSE CAN ALSO BE RESIDENTIAL. AS A CITY. WE NEED TO UTILIZE THE UNUTILIZED AREAS AND OUR OWN TOWN BEFORE WE CONTINUE TO KEEP BUILDING. AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF HOUSES BY THE LIBRARY THAT WAS SADLY DEMOLISHED BECAUSE THEY WERE SO BADLY ALLOWED TO FALL INTO DISARRAY BECAUSE OUR CITY DOES NOT HAVE A PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODES AND ENFORCES THE PROTECTION OF PROPERTY VALUES. AND THEN YOU HAD TWO HOUSES DEMOLISHED FOR SHERMAN WILLIAMS, SO THERE ARE MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOUSING. IN THIS COMMUNITY. THERE IS VACANT LOTS THAT ARE STILL VACANT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE LIBRARY THAT COULD BE MIXED USE. THAT COULD BE YOU KNOW, UM, THESE LITTLE BITS OF DEVELOPMENT . THERE'S A LOT OF LAND THAT IS ON EIGHTH STREET THAT IS UNUTILIZED. THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS AND MY WARD THAT CAN BE UTILIZED. UM THAT WOULD BLEND INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT COULD BE IN WALKING DISTANCE WHEN I RAN FOR CITY COUNCIL IN 2000 AND 16. I REALLY PUSHED FOR THE COMMUNITY MARKETS TO BE RE. TWO REDEVELOPED INTO A MULTI USE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE HOSPITAL FOR NOT ONLY EMPLOYEES OF THE HOSPITAL, BUT FAMILIES THAT WERE TRAVELING INTO THE AREA WHO COULDN'T FIND A PLACE TO STAY. THE HOSPITAL COULD RE UTILIZE THE COMMUNITY MARKETS RIP OUT THE PARKING LOT. MAKE IT INTO A GREEN SPACE. PUT THEM IN THE GROCERY STORE OVER THERE, BECAUSE, AS WE ALL KNOW THE GROCERY STORE, IT'S A FOOD DESERT. IT'S A FOOD DESERT, NOT AREA OF TOWN AND DOLLAR GENERAL. AS WE ALL KNOW, IT'S NOT A GROCERY STORE, SO YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S PLENTY OF AREAS AND I GET A LITTLE BIT OF HEARTBURN BECAUSE AS OF THE CITY WE DO NOT HAVE THAT PROACTIVE VISION TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE CORE AREAS THAT WE NEED TO REDEVELOP , YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, IN 2000 AND EIGHT WHEN THE RECENT I WENT AND PLANNING SCHOOL IN OHIO STATE IN 2000 AND EIGHT THEY TOLD US THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE PEOPLE WITHOUT HOUSING THAN HOUSING BECAUSE THE MARKET WAS AS BAD AS AS AS THE RECESSION ONLY DIFFERENCES. EVERYBODY DIDN'T LOSE THEIR MONEY. SO WE WENT YEARS WITHOUT BUILDING IN THIS COUNTRY. WE KNEW THIS WAS

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THANK YOU. IF I COULD ADD ONE THING IN REGARDS TO THOSE COMMENTS, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING, AND I UNDERSTAND, AND I WISH THAT VACANT OR BLIGHTED PROPERTIES WOULD BE REDEVELOPED. UM I HOPE THAT OUR UPTOWN IS REDEVELOPED. I HOPE THERE'S RESIDENTS UP THERE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE GOOD PAYING JOBS AVAILABLE TODAY. UPWARDS OF 100 OF THEM, AND WE DON'T HAVE OPTIONS FOR FOLKS TO PRESIDE IN MARYSVILLE, TAKE THOSE JOBS, SO THAT WAS JUST MY POINT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, SO THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CHRISTIAN BANK. I LIVE AT 8 72, WHICH WOULD DRIVE. UM, I AM A COUNTY COMMISSIONER. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I SAY I'M SPEAKING ONLY ON MY BEHALF, NOT ON BEHALF OF MY BOARD. UM YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD , I THINK ALMOST EVERYTHING. CITY MANAGER EMERY SAID IT BEST TONIGHT IS ABOUT GROWTH, AND YOU KNOW IT IS A BLESSING AND A CURSE. UM I MUCH RATHER HAVE GROWTH BECAUSE STAGNATION JUST LEADS TO DECLINE. WE'VE SEEN THAT IN THE NORTHEASTERN PART OF THE STATE. AND SO I THINK WE'RE MORE FORTUNATE, BUT IT MAKES THINGS TOUGH. IT MAKES YOUR DECISIONS TOUGH. IT MAKES ALL OF OUR DECISIONS TOUGH AND SO YOU KNOW, ECHO WHAT SPENCE JUST SAID. I THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO, AND FOR THE TOUGH DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE, AND, UM YOU KNOW, KATIE SPOKE VERY ELOQUENTLY EARLIER ABOUT THE LACK OF AVAILABLE HOUSING. IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT I LEARNED ABOUT WHEN I BECAME A COMMISSIONER IN EARLY 2019, AND IT HAS ONLY CONTINUED, I THINK TO MAYBE GET WORSE AND IT'S IMAGINABLE THE COST OF HOMES IN OUR COUNTY THESE DAYS. I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT PEOPLE TO KEEP OUR ECONOMY STRONG. YOU HEA PHILLIPM CONSTANTLY ABOUT THE NUMBER OF VACANT JOBS WITHIN YOU KNOW, IF YOU 15 TO 20 MILES, I DON'T

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YOU KNOW YOU'VE BEEN DOING A LOT , BUT THE NUMBER OF APARTMENTS HASN'T KEPT UP WITH DEMAND. I REMEMBER WE HAD NO NEW APARTMENTS FOR MANY, MANY MANY YEARS DECADES. AND SO, YES, YOU'VE DONE A LOT, BUT WE'RE NOT WHERE WE NEED TO BE. UM YOU KNOW, I THINK I FIRST BECAME AWARE OF THIS DEVELOPER VISION DEVELOP MENT THROUGH MID OHIO REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION.

THEY STARTED A KIND OF A FORUM ON HOUSING. SHORTLY AFTER I FIRST BECAME AWARE OF IT. I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED BY THEIR PASSION, THEIR INTERESTS, THEIR COMMITMENT. YOU KNOW, I KIND OF HELPED INTEREST THEM. I THINK IN MARYSVILLE BECAUSE I TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THE NEED FOR DEVELOPERS LIKE THEM. AND YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN SITTING THERE LOOKING AT THAT VACANT KROGER SITE FOR THE LAST WHAT FIVE OR SIX YEARS, HOPING WE CAN FIND SOMEBODY THAT'S WILLING TO TAKE IT ON. AND SO I WAS VERY, VERY GRATEFUL TO HEAR THAT THIS DEVELOPER WAS WILLING TO DO THAT. UM NO, I KNOW I'M JUST GOING TO ADDRESS ONE OF THE ELEPHANTS IN THE ROOM. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE MY FRIENDS FROM THE HOPE CENTER HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THEIR INTEREST IN THAT PROPERTY. AND I HAVE BEEN A STRONG SUPPORTER OF THE HOPES ANY CENTER FOR MANY YEARS. I HOPE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PIT THEM AGAINST. VISION DEVELOPMENT TONIGHT. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR. I THINK WE'RE A BIG ENOUGH COMMUNITY TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR BOTH, AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO. AND YOU HAVE MY PLEDGE TO HELP IN ANY WAY THAT I CAN BECAUSE THE HOPE CENTER DOES NEED A HOME. IT DOES SO MUCH FOR OUR COUNTY AND SO WE NEED TO HELP THEM. REGARDLESS IF IT'S AT THIS SITE OR ANOTHER SITE. AND I HOPE YOU'LL BE WILLING TO HELP WITH THAT AS WELL. THANKS. THANK YOU. BRIAN GEARS, CHIEF CREDIT OFFICER WITH RICHWOOD BANK. UM KATIE AND SPENCE STOLE MOST OF MY FIRST TO TALKING POINTS, SO I WOULD JUST ECHO WHAT WHAT THEY SAID. SO I'LL JUST ADD TO THE TO THE POINT OF WE HAVE FINANCED A LOT OF MULTI FAMILY PROJECTS AS A BANK THROUGHOUT CENTRAL OHIO, BOTH AS A LEAD BANK IN AS A PARTICIPANT BANK OVER THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS, AND EVERY TIME YOU LOOK AT ONE OF THOSE, IT COMES WITH A FEASIBILITY STUDY IN EVERY STUDY. THAT YOU THAT YOU READ. YOU KNOW? TELLS THE SAME STORIES. THERE ARE SO MANY MISSING UNITS BACK FROM, YOU KNOW, STARTING IN. OH, EIGHT. YOU KNOW WHEN THERE WAS NO EXCUSE ME, THERE WAS NOTHING BEING BUILT. UNTIL NOW THAT THE KETCHUPS WE'RE STILL NOT TO THAT POINT YET. UM SO I KNOW AS A BANK. THIS PROJECT OBVIOUSLY HAS A VIABILITY AS A NEED IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, AND TO SPEAK TO MR BERGER'S POINT ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, BLIGHTED PROPERTIES.

THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIGGEST FOCUS IS RIGHT NOW. WE DO A LOT OF FINANCING FOR SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL PROPERTIES WHERE THEY'RE GOING BY HOUSES AND FIX THEM UP AND RENT THEM. AND OFTENTIMES THOSE ARE THOSE ARE VERY AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. AND THEY? YES QUESTION. GO AHEAD.

FOR US. THE ISSUE BEFORE US AND I'LL READ IT OUT HERE IS TO DECLARE SUCH PROPERTY TO BE EXEMPT FROM REAL PROPERTY TAXATION. OKAY AND I THINK WE'VE GONE A LITTLE BIT OF A BIT TO THE SIDE OF THAT. YEAH THE QUESTION THAT WE EAT TONIGHT HAVE TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW. ARE WE GOING TO GIVE A TEETH FOR THIS PROPERTY? THE 10TH. YEAH TAX INCENTIVE FINANCING. AS I REFER TO IT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT 250,000 OR WOULD BE ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS THEN $1000 PER UNIT. AND WE WERE PREVIOUSLY AND THEY THE VISION FOLKS HAVE BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES AND SAID, WE CANNOT DO THIS PROBLEM WITH THIS PROJECT WITHOUT GETTING A TIFF. OKAY NOW

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SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT RENT INCREASE WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO OBVIOUSLY BE A PERCENTAGE OF WHATEVER THAT UNIT IS, HMM. YEAH BUT AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO TELL ME. NOBODY WANTS TO TELL ME. IT MIGHT ANTI. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT? YOU HAD TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT AND HE, BUT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT. NOT EXACTLY FALLING ALONG THE INCREASE. ABOUT THE BECAUSE WE'RE IT'S REALLY JUST THE TAXES BEING DIVERTED THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PAID. ANYHOW WHICH I BELIEVE IS IN THEIR PERFORMERS. COLONEL REPHRASE THE QUESTION IF THE TIFF IS NOT PROVIDED AND THE ADDITIONAL $2.3 MILLION THAT QUESTION DEVELOPER IT'S ABOUT $10,000 PER UNIT. SO THE QUESTION IS TO COVER THAT. WHAT KIND OF IMPACT? ARE YOU LOOKING AT RENT? IT'S NOT IN MY WHEELHOUSE. I'M NOT SURE IF ANYBODY FROM BUSINESS CAN INTO THAT BY THE PERFORMANCE. THE SHORT ANSWER IS THE HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION. PROBABLY CAN'T BE ANSWERED TODAY. I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION, HANK, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY CARES THAT TODAY.

EXACTLY WHAT THE RENT INCREASE WITH YOU. OKAY BUT YOUR QUESTIONS TILL HIS WHAT? YOU'VE TOLD US EARLIER THAT IF THIS COUNCIL WAS TO DECIDE NO UNDER TIFF. YOU TALK AWAY FROM THE PROJECT. SO. BUT YOU'RE NOT GIVING US MORE DETAILS. SHE ONLY SAYING THAT THERE CANNOT BE DONE WITHOUT GIVING US DETAILS PERFORMANCE FOR THE PROJECT WITH THE LIGHT ON HIM FOR THE 2.3 MILLION, THE COST OF DEMOLISH THE CENTER REMEDIATE BAD SOILS. CREATE THE SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION THAT COST WITH WITHOUT THE TIFF ASSISTANCE. IT'S JUST NOT VIABLE FOR THEIR PRO PRO FORM. EXCUSE ME THE BUDGET THE PROJECT. OKAY YOU'RE ASKING HYPOTHETICAL THAT I CAN'T ANSWER FOR YOU RIGHT NOW. OKAY? ALL RIGHT, THEN. AND THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS YOU DIDN'T YOU DID NOT USE STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING TO HELP YOU BECAUSE IT'S A BROWN BROWNSVILLE, RIGHT? WE DID NOT END THE FUNDS FOR THOSE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, SOURCES THROUGH THE STATE AND THE FED HAVE ALL THE VIEW, YOU KNOW, USED FOR OTHER PROJECTS. WE DID GO DOWN THAT ROAD, UNFORTUNATELY, WERE NOT AVAILABLE FOR US. THINK SO LET'S LET'S MOVE ON. THAT'S STILL PUBLIC INPUT. PUBLIC COMMENT, SO WE HAVE OTHERS THAT WE SHOULD DRESS. I GUESS I DO WANT TO ADD ONE THING THAT, UM HANK MENTIONED TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION IS NOT ABOUT ARE WE FOR APARTMENTS? ARE WE AGAINST APARTMENTS? TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION AND THE VOTE AT THE YOU KNOW WHAT AT THE NEXT MEETING IS ABOUT. IS. IS THIS SITE TO BE A PUBLIC PURPOSE? EXEMPT FROM THOSE TAXES? TO THE TUNE OF $2.3 MILLION. THAT'S THE QUESTION FOR US. IT'S NOT FOR OR AGAINST APARTMENT. IT'S DO WE APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE OF EXEMPTING? THIS PROPERTY FROM THOSE TAXES AND USING THOSE TIMES INSTEAD TO PAY FOR SITE PREPARATION WORK, SO GO AHEAD RYAN LEE 17475 WALDO ROAD. USUALLY I COMPANIES SEEMS LIKE IN THE PAST, I'VE COME TO COUNCIL MEETINGS TO SEE WHAT FARM I'M LOSING. BUT WE KIND OF COME FULL CIRCLE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, LOST THE FARM FOR A GOOD CAUSE HERE, BUT YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT RESIDENT. MY FAMILY'S QUALITY OF LIFE IS VERY DEPENDENT ON THE SUCCESS OF MARYSVILLE. UM FUN FACT ABOUT ME . I'VE NEVER LIVED. MY PERMANENT ADDRESS HAS NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE THE TWO MILE RADIUS. SO THE

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I KNOW YOU HAVE A TOUGH DECISION TO MAKE REGARDING THIS OLD SITE , AND I HOPE YOU MAKE THE RIGHT ONE. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF MULTI FAMILY PROJECTS BEING PROPOSED PROPOSED, AND THE OLD SCHOOL OF THOUGHT IS THAT SUCH DEVELOPMENTS ARE UNDESIRABLE. TODAY DIVERSITY AND HOUSING IS ESSENTIAL AND WE HAVE SOME CATCHING UP TO DO. UM IN TWO RECENT NATIONAL NEWS REPORTS, I LEARNED THAT THE UNITED STATES IS OVER FOUR MILLION UNITS SHORT OF MEETING HOUSING DEMAND. AND WE MAY NOW HAVE NEW GENERATIONS THAT MAY NEVER OWN A HOUSE. UM AND YOU KNOW. FOR SOMEBODY LIKE ME. WHO'S A TRADITIONAL HOMEOWNER? THAT'S THAT'S A REAL EYE OPENER THERE. UM THE COLUMBUS REGION WAS ALSO ONE OF THREE OR FOUR REGIONS THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED FOR BOTH THE SHORTAGE AND SUBSTANTIAL PRICE INCREASES. I'VE SEEN THIS FIRSTHAND WITH MY OLDEST DAUGHTER. SEARCH FOR HOUSE AND OUR REGION EVERY TIME SHE CAME TO ME WITH THE HOUSE AND THE PRICE AND WANT TO PUT AN OFFER, AND I SAID, BOY, KID, YOU BETTER HOPE THAT YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE PUTTING IN THAT OFFER, BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO YOU IS YOU DON'T GET IT. WE WENT THROUGH THAT FOR ABOUT FIVE TIMES AND I SAID, WELL, KID, MAYBE THIS IS WHERE IT'S AT. SO I'VE EXPERIENCED THAT FIRSTHAND. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO THAT ERIC HAD TO TELL PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO LIVE IN VARIOUS. WELL, YOU NEED TO GO TO HELL. YOU'RE DEFINING APARTMENT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY AND IT DESPITE ALL THE APARTMENTS THAT YOU'VE APPROVED THAT THAT TENSION HASN'T ALLEVIATED THAT PRESSURE IS STILL THERE. UM YOU KNOW, I GUESS YOU GUYS HAVE DONE TOO GOOD OF A JOB, CREATING A GREAT ENVIRONMENT HERE. I MEAN, WHAT A GREAT PROBLEM TO HAVE, UM AS A TRADITIONAL HOMEOWNER WITH A LONG HISTORY IN THE AREA. YOU KNOW ALL THIS IS LIKE I SAID, BIG EYE OPENER FOR ME. I MEAN, I NEVER DREAMED OF THE DAY THAT MY SLEEPY HOMETOWN WOULD BE HAVING THIS KIND OF DISCUSSION FOR HERE. FOR SURE. UM AND YOU KNOW , BUT WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT WE CAN'T BRING THE BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY WENT INTO THE REGION WITHOUT HOUSING FOR THE WORKFORCE. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT ALL THESE GREAT PLANS, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE PEOPLE TO FILL THE JOBS, IT'S PRETTY MEANINGLESS. UM I WILL SAY THE AIR IN THE AREA IN QUESTION IS IN NEED OF REDEVELOPMENT. MY LINE OF WORK REQUIRES SOME CRAZY HOURS TO RAISE A CROP. SO I TIME SOMETIMES PASS THROUGH MARYSVILLE IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT NOW. CHRIS GETS THE DRIVER AREA SO BY THE MIDDLE CLASS IN THE DAYTIME, BUT SOMETIMES I'M GOING ON. PASS IT TWO OR THREE IN THE MORNING IS I'M TRYING TO MOVE HOME FROM THE FIELD. UM I WISHED IT. I'VE WITNESSED CARS IN THAT PARKING LOT WITH SOME PRETTY SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY AT NIGHT, AND I'M JUST A DUMB FARM BOY, BUT THERE'S NO REASON FOR THEM TO BE THERE. AND THAT'S WHY I PERSONALLY MADE THE MARYSVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AWARE AND CALLED THOSE IN SO SOMEBODY COULD GO CHECK THAT OUT. UM IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THERE'S A GOOD GOVERNMENT USE AN OPTION TO

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YOU COULD HAVE GREAT FERTILITY. YOU CAN HAVE GREAT GENETICS. BUT IF YOU DON'T GET RAIN THAT YOU'RE LIMITING FACTOR, UM I'D LIKE YOU TO RE IMAGINE THAT BARREL AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SET OF PH. GENETICS FERTILIZER THAT THE STATES ARE LOCATION UTILITIES. WORKFORCE ABILITY, AVAILABILITY AND HOUSING, ETCETERA, AND THE BARREL REPRESENTS THAT ECONOMIC GROWTH . HOUSING IS CRITICAL TO ECONOMIC GROWTH, AND IT MAY BE THE SHORT STAY STAY OF THAT LETS THE BARREL LEAGUE AND PREVENT IT FROM REACHING ITS POTENTIAL. HOUSING HAS BECOME LIMITING FACTOR. CAN YOU WRAP IT UP? WE GOT A LOT. YEP AND THIS ISN'T ABOUT THE NEED FOR HOUSING. SO FOR EVERYBODY ELSE HERE, WE. FOR EVERYBODY ELSE HERE. WE'VE HEARD THAT COMMENT. FROM PLENTY OF PEOPLE WERE GOING TO LIMIT FUTURE COMMENTS ON THAT SO OTHER PEOPLE CAN ADDRESS OTHER ISSUES . PLEASE FINISH UP NOW, BUT THE GREAT DECISIONS YOU'VE MADE BROUGHT GREAT PEOPLE TO MARRY HIS SOUL AND GREATLY IMPROVE THE QUALITY LIFE FOR EVERYONE. THE WHOLE REGION IS DEMAND. SO I HOPE YOU MAKE THE DECISION THAT LETS LETS PEOPLE CONTINUE TO CHOOSE MARYSVILLE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. SO I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY WE'VE GOT A ROOM FULL HERE, AND WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE SAME COMMENT FROM THE SAME PEOPLE OR FROM EVERYBODY. SO PLEASE TRY NOT TO REPEAT EACH OTHER. SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THIS ALONG AND ALLOW EVERYBODY TO SPEAK. NOW WE HAVEN'T HEARD AS CHRIS MENTIONED THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM AND THE PROPOSAL FROM ANOTHER POTENTIAL USE FOR THIS SITE. SO LET'S HEAR SOMEONE FROM THE HOPE CENTER TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION. I'M AFRAID. OKAY WE DO HAVE A VIDEO. JEAN MILLER, WHO IS PRESIDENT OF MARYSVILLE AREA MINISTERIAL ASSOCIATION COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT. SO WE DO HAVE A VIDEO THAT HE DID THAT WE COULD SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT. I DO WANT TO PREFACE THAT WITH THE FACT THAT WE KNOW THERE'S NEED FOR HOUSING TO WHAT HAPPENED IS WE HEARD ABOUT THE TIFF AND THAT YOU GUYS HAD THAT FOR A VOTE FOR A BOAT AND THAT THEY WERE GOING TO WALK AWAY IF IT DIDN'T HAPPEN, AND WE WANTED TO PUT OUR NAME IN THE IN THE BAG THAT WE WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN. IF THAT WOULD HAPPEN. WE DIDN'T MEAN TO POKE THE BEAR STEP ON TOES OR UPSET ANYBODY. WE JUST LOOKED AT THAT AND JUST COULD DREAM ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN THERE TO HELP THE COMMUNITY THAT'S ALREADY HERE. FOR THE RECORD. YOU NEED TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. OH I'M SORRY. BECKY BOLT 555 WAGON WHEEL LINK. ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED? NO ALAN.

OKAY THEN GETTING THE VOLUME TO WORK HERE. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. MY NAME IS JEAN MILLER AND I'M, PRESIDENT OF THE AMERICAS AREA MINISTERIAL ASSOCIATION, AS WELL AS DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR THE HOPE CENTER. ALSO SERVE AS A PASTOR IN OUR COMMUNITY. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO ALLOW US TO ADDRESS YOU TONIGHT AND TO LOOK FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THE HOPE CENTER FIND A NEW HOME. WE ARE PROPOSING TO THE CITY THAT THE MINISTERIAL ASSOCIATION IN THE HOPE CENTER WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY AND REJUVENATE IT FOR USE. OF SPACE FOR THE HOPE CENTER AND OTHER MINISTRIES AND BUSINESSES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. WE DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A BETTER USE FOR THIS PROPERTY THAN THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED. AND THAT WOULD ONLY BRING MORE UNAFFORDABLE HOUSING . THAT'S NOT GOING TO BETTER OUR COMMUNITY BUT RATHER SEND EVEN MORE NEEDS OUR WAY BECAUSE PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE AFFORDABLE PLACES TO LIVE. HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY OBVIOUSLY IS AN ISSUE . WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE OPPORTUNITY TO PLACES TO BUILD MORE APARTMENTS, MORE BUILDINGS, MORE HOUSES. HOWEVER THE LOCATION THAT THE HOPE CENTER NEEDS THE UNIQUE NEEDS THAT THE HOPE CENTER HAS IN REGARDS TO A COMMUNITY KITCHEN, GYMNASIUM AND AUDITORIUM AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND JUST THE SHEER AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT IS NEEDED FOR THE MINISTRIES. THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE SPACE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PLACES THAT ARE AVAILABLE HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT MEET THOSE NEEDS. THE HOPE

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WE'VE BEEN BLESSED WITH SEVERAL NEW MINISTRIES THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO START AND THIS WOULD GIVE US THE SPACE TO BE ABLE TO DO SO. THE HOPE CENTER WAS SELECTED AS ONE OF TWO SITES WITHIN THE STATE OF OHIO TO BE FRESH PROGRAM FROM THE MID OHIO FOOD BANK, TOO. PROVIDE A MARKET COMMUNITY MARKET CONVENIENCE MARKET FOR PEOPLE IN NEED. IF YOU AND I NEED EGGS OR MILK, WE GO TO THE STORE AND GET IT FOR THOSE THAT ARE FOOD IMPOVERISHED. THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT. WITH THIS MARKET WOULD MEET THAT NEED. THE HOPE CENTER IS ALREADY HELP THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE'S OVER THE YEARS AND MANY OF THEM BEING OUR ELDERLY AND OUR YOUTH AND OUR FAMILIES. ONE OF THE BIGGEST ASSETS OF THE HOPE CENTER IS THAT IT BRINGS THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER IN RELATIONSHIP AND ACCOUNTABILITY WORKING TOWARDS THE LONG TERM GOALS OF INDIVIDUALS MEETING THEIR PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL AND SPIRITUAL NEEDS. THE HOPE CENTER HAS BECOME ONE OF THE PRIMARY POINTS. INTAKE POINTS IN DISCERNING HOW TO BEST HELP SOMEONE AND WHERE THAT HELP MIGHT COME FROM. OUR GOAL IS NOT TO BRING MORE PEOPLE INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT NEED HELP, BUT TO HELP THOSE THAT ARE ALREADY HERE . WE HAVE SO MANY THAT ARE ALREADY HERE AND IN NEED OF ASSISTANCE. ONE OF THE BIGGEST MISCONCEPTION IS THAT MOST OF OUR CLIENTS ARE HOMELESS. WELL, WE DO HELP THOSE THAT ARE OUR PRIMARY. DEFINITELY DEMOGRAPHICS ARE THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE ALREADY WORKING, BUT MAYBE NOT MAKING ENOUGH. TO PROVIDE IT FOR THEIR FAMILY AND ITS ENTIRETY, OR THEY'VE HAD A CATASTROPHIC EVENT THAT THEY'RE NOW AT RISK AT LOSING THEIR HOUSING OR BEING ABLE TO FEED OR CLOTHE THEIR FAMILIES. THE OTHER AREAS OF MINISTRY INCLUDED IN OUR HOPE CENTER BUILDING OUR COMMUNITY MINISTRIES. THIS INCLUDES AFFORDABLE MEETING SPACE AS WELL AS BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE VOLUNTEERS FOR NOT ONLY WITH WITHIN THE HOPE CENTER BUT ALSO IN THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES. AS WE DO OUTREACH MINISTRIES AND TAKING CARE OF FOOD ISSUES AND OTHER EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM ISSUES. IN THOSE PLACES AS WELL. ONE OF THE BIGGEST PRIORITIES TO HAVE A SAFE PLACE FOR THE YOUTH TO GO AND TO FEEL SAFE. WE FEEL THAT THIS PROPERTY WE CAN DO EVEN MORE THAN WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO.

IT ARE PRESENT SITE MORE ROOM FOR EVENTS, A FULL GYM, A GAME ROOM TUTORING, ART CLASSES, FILMMAKING CLASSES. PLACES WHERE KIDS CAN COME AND HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO BE ABLE TO HANG OUT AND TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS AND TO STAY OUT OF TROUBLE. THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF VALUE.

BEING A ONE STOP SHOP, A PLACE WHERE INDIVIDUALS CAN COME LOCATION BEING REALLY IMPORTANT , VISIBLE TO ALL AND THE MUCH NEEDED SPACE THAT WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY, TRANSPORTATION WISE OR EVEN WITH THE RESOURCES TO PROVIDE FOR GAS AND SO FORTH TO TRAVEL TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS TO GAIN THE HELP THAT THEY NEED. THE KROGER PLAZA WOULD ALLOW US TO COLLABORATE AND TO BRING EVEN MORE MINISTRIES AND AGENCIES TOGETHER TO HELP THOSE IN NEED OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE ASK YOU TO CONSIDER ALLOWING THE HOPE CENTER TO WORK THROUGH WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WITH THE CITY GOVERNMENT AND WITH OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO FIND A SOLUTION AND MAKE THIS DREAM BECOME A POSSIBILITY. WE KNOW THAT FINANCING AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS STILL HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT. BUT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN IN TALKS WITH RICHWOOD BANK, AS WELL AS OTHER COMMUNITY LEADERS AND AS WELL AS PEERS AS POSSIBLE DONORS IN OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT THE ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE HOPE CENTER AND SEEING AN OVERWHELMING SUPPORT AND A COMMITMENT TO SEEING THIS COME BECOME A REALITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. AND AGAIN IF YOU'D LIKE TO ANSWER, ASK ANY QUESTIONS. MY NAME IS JEAN MILLER. YOU CAN SEND THEM TO OPERATIONS AT HOPES UNDER OHIO .ORG OR ASK BECKY BOLD. WHO IS THERE WITH YOU THIS EVENING, AND WE'D LOVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. THANK YOU AGAIN SO MUCH. MAY GOD BLESS AND HAVE A GOOD EVENING. SO WHAT THIS HAS BECOME FOR US IS A DREAM FOR OUR COMMUNITIES FOR THOSE THAT ARE ALREADY HERE THAT HAVE NEEDS WE'VE SEEN MOST EVERYBODY'S FAMILY, FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS OR WHATEVER. AT THE HOPE CENTER. WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THERE ISN'T A NEED FOR OTHER HOUSING AS WELL BECAUSE WE SEE THOSE THAT COME INTO, ALTHOUGH WE SEE MOSTLY IS THAT THEY CAN'T AFFORD. YOU KNOW WHAT'S THEY'VE GOTTEN INTO PLACE ARE UNABLE TO AFFORD IT. AND SO WE HELPED AND SOME OF YOU PROBABLY HAVE RECEIVED THOSE EMAILS EACH WEEK THAT OUR COMPASSION DIRECTOR SENDS OUT FOR A NEED FOR A RENT FOR A WATER FOR A GAS FOR UTILITIES AND STUFF. SO THAT WAS OUR DREAM. WE JUST WANTED TO PRESENT THAT IF THERE WAS A CHANCE THAT THE COUNCIL VOTED THE TIFF DOWN, WE WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE WERE INTERESTED. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT SPOT IF IT WORKS OUT. I KNOW YOUR VOTE. WHAT YOU NEED TO VOTE. THAT'S IT. THAT'S BASICALLY AND IT'S THAT SIMPLE. OKAY THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? ANYONE UP HERE HAVE

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HAVE YOU THE PROPERTY MORNING? YEAH WELL, THE STUDIO YEARS REAL ESTATE. HELLO MY NAME IS GARY.

GET LET'S 503 ARISE AND DRIVE COLUMBUS, OHIO AND COUNSEL FOR MARY FIELD PLAZA. I'LL SEE. AND IT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THIS, BUT WE'VE BEEN IN CONTRACT FOR TWO YEARS. VISION WHO WAS ONE OF THE PREMIER DEVELOPERS OF APARTMENT AND MIX USED ONE APARTMENT COMPLEXES. IN THE AREA. WE WERE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE HIM AND COME TO MARRIAGE BILL WITH US. WE'VE BEEN THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. THEY'VE PROBABLY INVESTED. I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER BUT A COUPLE $100,000 WOULD NOT SHOCK ME. THEY'RE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPERS AND WE HAVE A CONTRACT. AND WHY THIS IS BEING BROUGHT TO CITY COUNCIL. AS OPPOSED TO BEING MUCH OF THE SELLER. HIS MIND BOGGLING TO ME. BUT I'M ALSO THE OPINION THAT PROBABLY MOST OF THE MOST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT REQUIRED BY THE TIFF WILL STILL BE REQUIRED BY ANY OTHER TYPE OF DEBRIS DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY. BUT WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE A CONTRACT. WE'RE LEGALLY BOUND.

WE HAVE A BACKUP CONTRACT THAT WE'RE LEGALLY BOUND TO. WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO TALK TO THESE PEOPLE. BUT THE REALITY IS WE'RE IN CONTRACT. AND WE'RE IN CONTRACT WITH SOMEBODY THAT WE'RE VERY HAPPY THAT WE'RE IN CONTRACT WITH. WE THINK THE PRODUCT THEY'RE SHOWING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP A MARVELOUS PRODUCT. AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THIS PROCESS WITH THEM AND GET THIS PROJECT DONE. THANK YOU. I'VE PART QUESTION YOU SAY YOU'RE IN CONTRACT. DOES THAT MEAN THEY HAVE AN OPTION ON THE SITE? NO IT'S A CONTINGENT PURCHASE CONTRACT WITH A LOT OF HARD MONEY DOWN IN THE BACKUP. THE BACKUP IS ANOTHER DEVELOPER . IS IT CONTINGENT PURCHASE OR IS IT A OPTION? I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS TO YOU.

IT'S JUST A QUESTION IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ANSWER IT. IT'S MY CLIENT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. MY NAME'S JIM NAB. I LIVE IN COLUMBUS, OHIO, AND I REPRESENT THE OWNER. UM WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO ANOTHER TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT GOING IN THERE, BUT THEY HAVEN'T INSPECTED THE BUILDING. THEY HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE CONDITION OF THE BUILDING. THE BUILDINGS ARE PLANNING ON BEING RAISED. I CAN SPEAK. I TAKE CARE OF IT SO I CAN SPEAK TO ALL THE ISSUES AND PROBLEMS THERE. YOU HAVE A LIST STATION? THAT HAS TO BE REBUILT. IT'S AT LEAST MY FATHER IN LAW BUILT THIS PROPERTY IN THE SEVENTIES. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE UTILIZED IF IT'S DEVELOPED AS AN APARTMENT. IT'S GOING TO BE A CONNECTED TO THE CITY SEWAGE. IF IT'S TAKEN OVER BY ANOTHER

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THE KROGER BUILDING. THE ROOF IS LEAKING. VERY FORTUNATE AT THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION FOR THE CRUELTY TO PREVENTION OF THE ANIMALS IN THERE SO THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO KEEP THIS GOING FORWARD SO WE CAN CLOSE THE PROPERTY. EVERY SINGLE ROOF NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. ALL THE H V. A C UNITS NEED TO REPLACE ALL THE ELECTRIC NEEDS TO BE UPGRADED. THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE UPGRADED AS MUCH AS IT BE NICE TO GO IN THERE AND DO THE HOPE CENTER. IT'S NOT JUST THE PURCHASE PRICE KROGER BUILDING WOULD HAVE TO BE. WE'VE HAD OTHER COMPANIES LOOKED AT IT FOR TWO YEARS. IT'S JUST IT WASN'T FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE FOR THEM. I QUESTION BEING FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE FOR THE HOPE CENTER. I JUST STARTED BRINGING UP TO DATE ON THE CONDITION OF THE BUILDINGS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

ANY QUESTIONS? YOU WANT. OKAY? THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANYONE ELSE? AND GREG SINNER. I LOVE IT. 14 61 STATE ROUTE 3 47 I OWN KNUCKLES INSURANCE HERE IN MARYSVILLE. UH IF I KNOW HAD KNOWN THAT SPENCE AND AH! KATIE AND RYAN HAD WOULD HAVE THAN SUCH A GOOD JOB. I WANTED TO STAY FOR THIS WHOLE MEETING, BUT BECAUSE THE POINTS THEY MADE GREAT POINTS, ESPECIALLY KATIE'S THE NEED FOR HOUSING IS GREAT. I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TIP, BUT I THINK BOLOGNA IT IS ABOUT HOUSING. UM I ENSURE. BUSINESSES HERE IN TOWN FROM THE LARGEST EMPLOYER IN THE CITY, TOO SMALL MOM AND POPS, EVERYBODY I TALKED TO IS IN NEED OF EMPLOYEES. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS FOR THAT, BUT I THINK A LOT OF THE REASON IS HOUSING. AH I DIDN'T KNOW THE HOPE CENTER WAS GOING TO BE PART OF THIS MEETING TONIGHT. AND I THINK HAVING SAID THAT, KNOWING THAT BUILDING HAVING HEARD WHAT THEY SAID THAT BUILDING NEEDS TO COME DOWN, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE PURCHASE OF IT. BUT TO REHAB IT MAINTAIN IT. THAT'S A HUGE DOLLAR AMOUNT. I DON'T THINK THAT BUILDING IS REHAB. A BLE UH I THINK THE CITY IS LUCKY THAT THEY'VE HAD A DEVELOPER. WILLING TO TAKE THIS PROJECT ON FOR TWO YEARS. AND STILL BE SITTING HERE TWO YEARS LATER. I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT. IF IT WAS ME, I WOULD HAVE GONE THE OTHER WAY. TWO YEARS IS A LONG TIME. I KNOW THEY'VE PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO IT. I WOULD HAVE NEVER WAITED AROUND FOR TWO YEARS. UH, ONE LAST THING AND THIS IS JUST BECAUSE I TALKED TO PEOPLE.

THERE ARE OTHER BUILDINGS HERE DOWNTOWN. THAT NEED TO BE TORN DOWN REHAB. LOOK AT THE AVALON CENTER. THEY WENT TO REHAB THAT IT WENT TO THE GROUND. AH THERE'S OTHER BUILDINGS JUST LIKE THAT. HOMETOWN AUTO THE BUILDING ON THE CORNER RIGHT NEXT TO IT. THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE TORN DOWN. YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO PUT BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS IN THERE. I THINK THE CITY OUGHT TO REALLY BE THINKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS ALSO. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY LATE NIGHT. ANDREA WHITE 1000 NORTH MAPLE STREET.

UM I KNOW YOU SAID THIS ISN'T ABOUT HOUSING. UM BUT IF I MAYBE MISUNDERSTOOD SO WHAT? WE'RE VOTING ON TIP RIGHT? IT'S THE TIP BECAUSE THE PLAN HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. THIS ISN'T ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT THE APARTMENTS TO GO IN. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IF THE TIFF WAS OFF THE TABLE, UM OR TURN DOWN THAT IT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE UTILIZED THAT WAY. UM AND I'VE I'VE COME TO QUITE A FEW DESPITE HAVING WAY TOO MANY CHILDREN AND ELDERS TO CARE FOR AND PROPERTY TO CARE FOR UM, COUNT, YOU KNOW, ZONING AND THIS THAT AND THE OTHER. UM BUT THERE ARE, UM, A LOT OF EXPENSES THAT GOES INTO CHALLENGING PROPERTIES, SOME OF WHICH MIGHT BE YOU KNOW PLACES LIKE THE OLD AVALON AND YOU KNOW THEN YOU'VE GOT VERY UNIQUE PROPERTIES LIKE

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THESE MAYBE UM AND THEN, OF COURSE, LONG TERM THINK TURN AROUND LIKE, UM, INCOME CITY INCOME TAXES. I MEAN, THERE'S BODIES THAT KATIE HAD MENTIONED TO THE PRICE POINT THAT WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT. YOU GOT IT. THINK OF THAT. AND THAT KIND OF MAKES ME FEEL LIKE THAT THAT DOING A TIFF. SCARES ME LESS AS SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO SEE THE CITY THRIVE. UM IT'S LESS SCARY, KNOWING THAT THAT KIND OF MONEY MIGHT BE A RETURN. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. I DRIVE PAST THERE EVERY DAY. UM SO I LOOKED AT THE PLANS THAT LOOKS VERY PRETTY, AND MY KIDS LOVE TO PLAY AT BOTH PARKS. AMERICAN LEGION IS GORGEOUS. I LOVE THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT THE CITY'S PUT INTO THAT AND FOR IT TO BE CONNECTED TO SOMETHING IS YOU KNOW THE GREEN PASTURES.

WE ALL LOVE WALKING THAT, SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT OPPORTUNITY, AND THE FACT THAT IT IS, MAKES USE GOING TO HAVE SOME DIMENSION TO IT. THAT'S THAT'LL BE NICE. BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, I THINK THAT THIS IS ALL BEEN REALLY EXCITING HEARING THAT THE HOPE CENTER IS GETTING THROWN OUT IN THE FORUMS AND CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE, AS CHRIS MENTIONED, I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES. WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK FOR THEM. AND SOMEBODY WHO LOVES VOLUNTEER FOR THE CENTER. I WILL BE EXCITED TO SEE WHAT WHAT COMES NEXT FOR THEM AND UM, AS CHRIS ALSO SAID, I THINK THERE'S ROOM FOR BOTH. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, I THINK THIS TIFF, UM REALLY IMPACTS WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING VIABLE CAN AFFORD TO GO INTO THAT. WITH ALL THE SOILS AND THE LIFT STATION NOT BEING CONNECTED TO CITY UTILITIES. AND THAT'S IT. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? KEEP YOUR QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. RICK CRAIG. OH LIENS GARAGE. ACTUALLY MY RESIDENCE IS 187. OH, ONE RAYMOND ROAD. HAVE A FARM TO 2/10 MILES FROM FIFTH STREET IN DAMASCUS. SO MURRAY'S OLD TOUCHES ME. I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOUSING REQUIREMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT INVESTMENTS. MY BUSINESS PARTNER IS MR BRUCE DANIELS, FOR WHICH WE ALL KNOW WE HAVE BOTH MADE. OUR COMMITMENTS TO THIS COMMUNITY.

IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE. WITH A LOT OF FINANCIAL STABILITY TO PROVIDING OF JOBS PROVIDING OF.

BENEFITS TO THE HOPE CENTER TO OUR FRIENDS, OUR IMPACT 60. THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. WE HAVE DONE. I HAVE WORKED WITH BECKY ANY NUMBER OF TIMES WITH THE HELP CENTER AND MY HEART BLEEDS FOR THE ORGANIZATION ALL THE TIME, AS I THINK ABOUT IT. SO WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES HERE. WE HAVE A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST CASE SOLUTION FOR THE HOPE CENTER. WE ALSO HAVE A BLIGHTED PROPERTY THAT NEEDS TO BE RAISED. EVEN MYSELF FOR FIVE YEARS AGO, WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROPERTY WHERE THE OLD WEISS'S USED TO BE WHERE THE BANK WAS AT. AND OF COURSE, IT WAS T G AND Y WHEN IT FIRST OPENED UP. I REMEMBER ALL THAT TOYS, GUNS AND

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TO HANK. IT'S COMMENT. IT IS A LEAP OF FAITH. BASICALLY YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THAT INVESTMENT IS. YOU'RE GIVING AWAY $2 MILLION WORTH OF TAXPAYERS MONEY THAT'S GOING TO THE REST OF US WHO PAY THE TAXES . THAT'S A BIG DEAL. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION AT ALL ABOUT THAT. BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PROJECT. AND SEE IF THERE IS A LEAP OF FAITH. THAT MAKES SENSE. I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE COLEMAN CROSSING ALL THAT AREA THAT HAS DEVELOPED. YOU HAVE INNOVATION PARK OUT THERE NOW OFF OF THAT BOULEVARD THAT DID NOT EXIST. 20 YEARS AGO THAT WAS PART OF A TIFF. THAT DIDN'T EXIST. SO IT WAS A COOPERATION AND I THINK SOME INSIGHT AND SOME REALLY SOME VISION THAT TOOK PLACE AT THAT TIME THAT I THINK YOU KNOW, REALLY TURNED OUT WELL FOR THE COMMUNITY. I THINK YOU'RE IN SITUATION RIGHT NOW WHERE YOU HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE VERY SAME THING. SO I DIDN'T COME TO MAKE THAT COMMENT, BUT THE LONGER I HEARD THE COMMENTS, I THOUGHT I NEEDED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY, SO THANKS. I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME. I'M I'M LIKE ALAN. I'M OLD. YEAH.

THANKS, LARRY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. SO YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS WE GOT TONIGHT. YOU KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS YOU KNOW, I HEARD AND THE REASON WHY, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S SO MUCH INTEREST IN THIS. IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REDEVELOP THIS PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, IT'S RYAN LEAD MENTIONED. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. HERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REDEVELOP THIS SITE. UM WE'VE GOT A COUPLE IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN TOSSED OUT. YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE TALKED ABOUT USING IT FOR HOUSING. WE'VE GOT ANOTHER IDEA FROM THE HOPE CENTER AND YOU KNOW, AS CHRIS MINK MENTIONED. WE WANT TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR BOTH. AT THIS SITE OR ANOTHER. SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS, UM FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE COMMUNITY, AND YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY THAT CAME TO SPEAK. YOU KNOW, IT IS IMPORTANT. UM, ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, I THINK, AS LARRY SAID, IT'S ABOUT TAKING THAT LEAP OF FAITH. DO WE AGREE? THAT IT'S SOMETHING TO SPEND $2.3 MILLION OF YOUR MONEY. MY MONEY. YOU KNOW THE CITIZENS MONEY IS THIS WORTH SPENDING $2.3 MILLION OF CITIZEN TAXPAYER MONEY ON AND IN THE LEAP OF FAITH PART I THINK IS BECAUSE THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM ANY TIPS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IN THE PAST, OR TIFFS HAVE BEEN PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SUPPORTED MULTIPLE PROPERTIES, SO YOU DON'T GO DOWN CORMAN'S CROSSING THE ROAD. THE SEWER LINE. YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT STUFF IS PAID FOR BY THE TIP IMPROVES ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES, NOT JUST ONE PROPERTY OWNER. AND IN THIS CASE WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE THEY MENTIONED THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IZATION, BUT WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING NEW. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT USING COMMUNITY DOLLARS TO DEMOLISH THE SITE. SO THAT THE DEVELOPER YOU KNOW IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO DEVELOP THAT, SO IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. AND I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU KNOW WE HAVE SO MUCH TIME AND INTEREST AND THOUGHT PUT INTO THIS. IT'S NOTHING LIKE THE TIP THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. SO YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S IDEAS THERE. THOUGHT AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, IT'S NOT ABOUT PRO GROWTH, ANTI GROWTH PRO APARTMENTS, ANTI APARTMENTS IT'S ABOUT THE TIFF. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING ON THIS LEGISLATION BECAUSE THE PLAN HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. IT'S THE QUESTION BEFORE US IS THE TIFF. MR PRESIDENT? YES. COULD WE ALSO SAY THAT WE'RE FLIRTING WITH YOU? WE ALSO WANT TO USE TIPS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REVITALIZING BLIGHTED HERE. I MEAN THAT, I MEAN, YEAH, YEAH. YEAH I THINK I THINK YOU KNOW THAT'S WHAT WE'RE

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IT'S ABOUT PUBLIC FUNDS AND NOT JUST A COUPLE OF DOLLARS. I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ALMOST $2.5 BILLION SO. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. UM UM, WE HEARD A LOT. THEY'VE SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE. YEAH UM, WE WANT TO DRAG THIS OUT FOR TWO MORE WEEKS. THE INVESTORS HAVE WORKED ON IT FOR TWO YEARS. YEAH UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UM. IT IS IT SOMETHING THAT HOW DO WE FEEL ABOUT IT AT THE POINT THAT BE KNOWN ENOUGH AND THAT WE COULD MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT? AND THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WAVE THE THIRD READING. OR DO WE WANT TO BRING THIS BACK TO WEEKS FROM NOW? I WANT TO GIVE IT ONCE WE'VE HAD MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT. WELL ORIGINALLY, THE REQUEST HAD BEEN A WAVE THIRD READING, AND I ASKED THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT WE WANTED TO DO THAT, AND REALLY, IT'S UP TO COUNCIL. UM YOU KNOW, THAT WAS NOT WE ENDED UP NOT PUTTING IT ON THAT AGENDA FOR THE FIRST NIGHT. UM BUT THAT THAT'S UP TO US. I MEAN, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS POINT. FOR TWO YEARS, OBVIOUSLY HURT A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT. SO I MEAN, IF YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, THAT'S BIG DECISION. I THINK I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD WAIT FOR DRINKS. OKAY THAT VIRGIN I KNOW YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. WE'RE GOOD GOING FORWARD READINGS. OKAY I WOULD JUST I WOULD JUST MAKE THE COMMENT THAT THIS IS THE FIRST EVER PRESIDENTIAL TAB. THAT WE ARE ALLOWING AS A CITY. AND THE AND YOU KNOW THE EXCUSE DEVELOPMENT NEXT YEAR. IT'S NOT JUST RESIDENTIAL TIFF. IT'S A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. OKAY, WELL, OKAY. WHAT I WOULD SAY. THOUGH IS THAT YOU LOOK AT COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE USED THIS AND THEY'VE BUILT PARKS. THEY BUILT OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS FOR ALL RESIDENTS TO USE. THERE'S IS ONLY BEING USED TO DEMOLISH A SITE. THAT'S MY CONCERN. YOU KNOW, WHEN I MET WHEN I MET WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND CITY STAFF A LONG TIME AGO, I SAID FOR MY VOTE, I WANTED MORE GREEN SPACE AND A BETTER DESIGN STANDARD. THEN WHAT THEN WHAT THEY PROPOSED NOW? THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO. AND I'M LOOKING AT ERIC, YOU KNOW AS A COUNCIL THIS IS GOING TO BE THE STANDARD IF WE SAY THIS. AND THEN OTHER DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO SAY, WELL, YOU DIDN'T MAKE THEM DO IT, SO WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO DO IT? I MEAN , THIS IS ONLY BEING USED TO DEMOLISH. THE STRUCTURES BETTER THERE. THAT'S MY PROBLEM WITH IT. SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS, AND I THINK THAT AS A COUNCIL WE HAVE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT BLIGHTED AREAS IN TOWN, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT USE TO REVITALIZE AREAS.

BUT WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THIS LOOKS LIKE ANY OTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT YOU WOULD SEE ANYWHERE ELSE IN AMERICA. WHAT MAKES IT UNIQUE TO MARYSVILLE AND SADLY, NOTHING. IT'S GOING TO BE APARTMENTS IN THE BACK WITH FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS ON THE STRAIGHT CURVED. WHICH IS NO DIFFERENT THAN YOU DRIVE FROM EVERYONE. SO WHEN YOU DRIVE THE MARYSVILLE ALL YOU SEE IS FAST FOOD RESTAURANT AFTER FAST FOOD , RESTAURANTS, FAST FOOD RESTAURANT AND YOU HAVE TO THINK AS A RESIDENT. IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT YOUR COMMUNITY LOOK LIKE IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE BUILDINGS LIKE THE GENTLEMAN, SAID 50. YOU KNOW, THE AVALON THEATER FELL DOWN. YOU KNOW WHY THE AVALON THEATER FELL DOWN BECAUSE IT WAS ABLE TO SIT FOR OVER EIGHT YEARS AND NO ONE DID ANYTHING WITH IT. AND IT WAS FLOODED WITH WATER. THAT'S THE WAY WE TREAT MIRRORS IN HIS IDENTITY. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE ALLOWING THE OLD PART OF TOWN TO FALL INTO DISARRAY. AND THEN WE SAY WE SAY TO THE DEVELOPER. WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOUR MONEY. AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ENCOURAGE. I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO FIT OUR CODE. SO WE'RE NOT BECAUSE WE'RE GIVING YOU THIS MONEY. WE'RE NOT MAKING YOU PUT ANY MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAVE TO. THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE, BECAUSE WE'RE CREATING CREATING THE STANDARD TO SAY THIS IS THE THIS IS THE MINIMUM. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS, THOUGH. ANY OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS. OKAY, THIS WILL BE BACK. ON MONDAY, APRIL 11TH. MHM BUT WE'RE NOT

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[COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL PERSONS AND GENERAL DISCUSSION]

$40,000 IN GERMAN, I THINK LEFT IF THE TIFF IS APPROVED WITH THE INCREASE IN THE LAND VALUE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT IDIOT IMMEDIATELY GOES UP TO OVER 150,000 YEAR TO THE SCHOOLS, EVEN DURING THE TIFF. PERIOD SO IT FORK IT'S FOUR TIMES. WHAT THE SCHOOLS ARE RECEIVING TODAY.

EVEN DURING THE TEST PERIOD OF THAT 10 YEAR PERIOD. SO ONCE WE GET BEYOND THAT 10 YEAR PERIOD IT'S FULL GIRL. BUT IF WE DON'T DO THIS PROJECT, I JUST YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO SEE THIS PROPERTY IN THE CONDITION IT IS FOR PROBABLY ANOTHER 56 YEAR PERIOD BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH FOR SOMEBODY. WE SPENT TWO YEARS. ON THIS. IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO COME IN AND PUT TOGETHER A PLAN TO SPEND THREE MILLION TO PURCHASE SOCIETY. 2.5 MILLION TO REHAB THE SITE AND THEN TO DECIDE WHAT ULTIMATELY, THEY'RE GOING TO END UP DOING ON THE SITE. IT'S JUST IT'S A IT'S A TOUGH SITE TO DEAL WITH, AND IT'S ONE THAT I'VE SEEN. HALF MY YEARS I'VE BEEN IN MARYSVILLE HERE. IT'S BEEN FRUSTRATING. UM OKAY WITH THAT. YOU HEAR A NEGATIVE REMARKS ABOUT IT. DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY. AND I ONE OF MY WEAKNESSES IF I GET CRITICIZED AND YOU HEARD IT A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT. FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE PERSPECTIVE. IS WE'RE NOT AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH. I'M BLIGHTED PROPERTIES. OKAY SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST AREAS. AND I WANT NOTHING MORE THAN TO CLEAN UP NOT ONLY THIS PROPERTY BUT OTHER PROPERTIES WE SPOKE ABOUT TODAY. AND WE'RE PUTTING PIECES IN PLACE TO DO THAT. AND I JUST ASKED MAYBE FOR STRONGER CONSIDERATION ON THIS PROJECT, AND THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT COMMITMENT TO CLEANING UP PROPERTIES SINCE COUNCIL PASSED THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE I'M YOU ALLOWED US TO HIRE AN EXTRA PERSON, TOO. I APPRECIATE THAT. I'M WANTING TO SEE SOME ACTION. OKAY AND I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT IF WE'RE BUILDING DEVELOPMENT, THEN WE SHOULD BUILD WITH QUALITY MATERIALS THAT'S GOING TO LAST.

MORE THAN JUST 15 OR 20 YEARS. WE'VE GOTTA CHANGE ALL SECTIONS OF THAT WE HAVE THAT WE CAN HOLD ON TO THAT. THAT WE CAN MAKE PEOPLE COMPLIED BY USING CERTAIN MATERIALS. THERE'S YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE LANGUAGE AND BUILDING CODES THAT REQUIRE THINGS LIKE THAT. SO HELP US DO THAT, AND WE'LL DO THAT. WELL THE FIRST CODE HAD IT. I MEAN, WE CAN START ADDING LIKE LANGUAGE BACK IN THE CODE. I MEAN, IT ISN'T EVER EVOLVING, DOCTOR. I'M GOOD WITH THAT, OKAY? WELL THIS COUNCIL THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS GO. LET'S GO TO COUNCIL. ERIN THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. UM THANK YOU TO EVERYONE. I KNOW. HALF THE ROOM. MAYBE IT'S LEFT ALREADY. BUT SERIOUSLY, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO SHOWED UP TONIGHT AND VOICE YOUR OPINION.

OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR GIVING YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON A LOT OF IMPORTANT TOPICS. THANK YOU. UM LOOK, I CAMPAIGNED AS A PRO GROWTH PERSON. REMAIN PRO GROWTH . I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MARYSVILLE, BRO, AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE A FORCE THAT MAKES THAT HAPPEN. UM YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I TOLD VOTERS. I WOULD DO SO I WOULD LIKE TO STAY TRUE TO THAT. I PLAN ON IT. UM AS A FINANCIAL CONSERVATIVE. I DON'T LIKE. UM THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD BE GIVING PUBLIC MONIES TO FUND PRIVATE INVESTMENTS. I FUNDAMENTALLY DON'T LIKE THAT.

BUT WE HAVE BEEN SHOWN THAT OVER TIME. THIS WOULD PAY OFF AND IT WOULD RY THE RATE OF INVESTMENT WOULD EXIST, AND IT WOULD BE FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE. FINANCIALLY SMART. I THINK TO GO THAT ROUTE. NOW. I HAVE TALKED WITH MEMBERS FROM THE HOPE CENTER, AND I WOULD I WOULDY ANT

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TO ME. IT IS. SO I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST WE MAKE A WORKING GROUP. FROM PROBABLY MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT. ELECTED OFFICIALS. MAYBE SOME PEOPLE ON COUNCIL MAYBE SOME PEOPLE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION. MAKE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE OF RELOCATING THE HOPE CENTER IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, OHIO. COULD WE DO THAT? COULD WE ESTABLISHED THAT AS A PRIORITY GOING FORWARD, BECAUSE IF SO, I'D LIKE TO BE A PART OF IT. UM REAL QUICKLY IF YOU WERE TO JUST ASK THE AVERAGE WORD ONE VOTER WHAT THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE AT THAT SITE. THEY WOULD PROBABLY TELL YOU THE HOPE CENTER. I'M JUST GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T WANT APARTMENTS TO GO UP, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND. THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR HOUSING. I DIDN'T BUT NOW I DO. I HAVE LEARNED I HAD BECOME EDUCATED. THERE IS A HUGE NEED FOR HOUSING AND TO PUT UM PEOPLE IN HOMES IN MARYSVILLE, WE HAVE SEEN MORE COMPANIES KIND OF MARYSVILLE INNOVATION PARK. WE HEARD SOME OF THE NIGHT. MORE JOBS. IT'S GREAT WHERE THEY'RE GONNA LIVE. I LIVE AT COOK'S POINT. DON'T LIVE. YOU KNOW WHAT COOKS POINT IS? IT'S BETWEEN AROUND 31 STATE ROUTE FOUR. NEXT TO THE VALLEY. THERE'S APARTMENTS THERE WERE AT LIKE 97 TO 98 TO 90% CAPACITY. ALL I HAVE NEIGHBORS, THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND THERE ARE NO DOORS THAT DON'T HAVE PEOPLE IN THEM WHERE I LIVE. I LIVE IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEXES, THREE STORIES, BUT I CAN GIVE TESTIMONY TO THE FACT THAT WE'RE AT A LIMIT AND WE NEED THE ADD MORE. UM I'M A YOUNG PERSON I LOVE LIVING AROUND AT. I'M ALSO NOWHERE NEAR READY TO BUY A HOUSE. I'LL JUST BE HONEST WITH YOU. OKAY YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN SAID I LOVE I LOVE MY APARTMENT AND I FEEL LIKE OTHER PEOPLE LIKE ME. MY AGE WOULD ALSO LIKE AN APARTMENT. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. I'VE SAID A LOT OF THIS ALREADY. BUT, UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO THE THIRD READING ON THIS. THANK YOU. THANK OKAY. NEXT UM I THINK WE'VE ALREADY PASSED THE 1.5 HOUR LIMIT ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC, SO I DO WANT TO GET TOO LATE ADMINISTRATION FOR THE NICE JOB THAT THEY'VE DONE IN GETTING THE PARKS AND REC. UM THOSE SHOOT TOGETHER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, IT ONLY REACHES A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE THOSE TO FOLLOW THE CITY AND MY REQUESTS ACTUALLY WAS I JUST GOT MY WATER BILL, AND IT HAD A NOTING THAT IF YOU'RE EXPERIENCING DIFFICULTIES BEING YOUR UTILITY BILL, ETCETERA SAID THERE WAS PART OF IT. CAN WE MAYBE CONCENTRATE ON THE MONTH OF ME SAYING THAT WE DO HAVE A INSERTED AS AN INSERT INTO THE WATER BILL. IF HE CAN MAKE UP SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO PUT IN THERE AND LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT IS AVAILABLE AT CITY HALL. WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT ONE THING WE CAN EASILY DO IS CAN CONNECT THEM TO THE ACTIVITY GUIDE. ON OUR WEBSITE WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM, BUT I'LL CHECK THE ACTUAL PAPER PRODUCT. OKAY BUT THEN THE QUESTION OF CAUSES. HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE FOLLOWING THE WEBSITE AND WE STILL STILL TARGETING THE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT NORMALLY DO NOT LOOK AT SOCIAL MEDIA DEFINITELY TAKEN. YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT. I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY, THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. THANK TONE. I JUST HAD I JUST HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS I WANT. I JUST HAD JUST A COUPLE STATEMENTS. MY FIRST STATEMENT IS IF YOU READ THE GENERAL TRIBUNE FROM THE MARCH 24TH 2022 YOU WILL READ ABOUT HOW MIRRORS ALWAYS BURSTING AT ITS SEAMS AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE DEVELOPMENT ALL THE TIME. SO SOMETIMES I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH BELIEVING THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SITES IN OUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO SIT VACANT FOR 15 OR 20 YEARS. ESPECIALLY WHEN THE PAPER YOU KNOW, UM INDIVIDUALS ARE TELLING US THAT WERE REVERSED. ER SEEMS THE ANOTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT I WANTED TO SEND A VERY SPECIAL THANK YOU TO THE SCOTT AND HEART. BEEN POUNDING THAT CORRECTLY TO THE FAMILY WHO DONATED LAND TO THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. WE ARE DO OUR PARTS TO MAKE OUR FAMILIES. UM OUR LIVES OUR COMMUNITIES A BETTER PLACE TO BE. AND YOU KNOW THERE WAS A TIME IN OUR COUNTRY THAT PEOPLE GAVE BACK AND THEY GAVE BACK TO THEIR COMMUNITIES, AND THEY SERVE THEIR COMMUNITIES, AND ONCE THEY FELT LIKE THEIR TIME WAS OVER, THEN THEY STEPPED AWAY AND ALLOWED. YOU KNOW ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL AND IT SEEMS LIKE IN TODAY'S POLITICS. UM EVERYBODY'S ALWAYS OUT FOR THEMSELVES, AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE BECOMING A COUNTRY WHERE IT DOESN'T MATTER YOUR POLITICS OR YOUR ECONOMIC SOCIAL. EVERYBODY'S JUST IN IT FOR THEM. AND YOU KNOW, I SPOKE ABOUT LAST

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JEREMY, YOU CAN EXPLAIN THAT TO ME DETENTION AND RETENTION PONDS. BECAUSE THEY ARE AN ATTRACTIVE BIRD SANCTUARY. I'M NOT GOING TO FORGET THIS. I THINK IT IS CRITICAL THAT THE CITY TAKE A VERY PROACTIVE STANCE. I DON'T WANT THINGS DRAIN. AND I DON'T WANT THE AIRPORT TO RELOCATE. THERE HAS TO BE FACES AND 10TH ASUS CONSENSUS AND WE HAVE TO COME TO SOME WAY TO HELP THE AIRPORT AUTHORITY. MAKE THIS A SAFE AIRPORT. IT IS IN THE CITY LIMITS AND CURRENTLY THERE IS A HUGE CONCERN ABOUT THE RETENTION DEEP TENSION PONDS. TO THE POINT WHERE ONE EXTREME WOULD SAY DRAIN THEM ALL. UM NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, WHICH IS WHAT I SAID TO THE PERSON WITH WHOM I SPOKE LAST WEEK, BUT NOR IS IT GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE AIRPORT IS GOING TO MOVE. THERE HAS TO BE SOME SAFE SOLUTION TO THAT. THANK YOU. SORRY, SIR. I'M DONE.

I I'M AN OLD MAN. I'M TIRED. INTO IT. I'M GOING HOME. HAVE A BEER. DON'T WALK WITH. THANK YOU

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