Apr 11, 2022 City Council

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MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER. TURN YOUR MIC ON. WE WILL START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FOLLOWED BY THE INVOCATION. PLEASE STAND. THE PRICE OF THE UNITED STATES OVER PUBLIC. FOR WHAT AND YOU'RE VISIBLE. ALMIGHTY GOD, WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND ITS CITIZENS.

AMEN. ROLL CALL. PRESIDENT DEBORAH GROWTH. PRESIDENT DONALD BURGER HERE, MARK REAMS, JR ROUSH, HANK BURBEY AARON CARPENTER PRESENT. NEXT TIME ON THE AGENDA APPROVAL OF MINUTES

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AH NICE EVENT COMING UP HERE REAL SOON ON APRIL, 20TH IS THE MARYSVILLE BMX TRACK. GIVE IT A TRY OPEN HOUSE. APRIL 20TH FROM 5 30 TO 7 AT 6 18 NORTH MAIN STREET, OPEN THE BOYS AND GIRLS, 4 TO 15 YEARS AND PARENTS HERE THAT PARENTS SB THERE. PARDON THERE? HELL YEAH, THEY IF YES, DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOU. SO THERE YOU GO. UM YEAH, YOU NEED TO R S V P AT MARYSVILLE BMX LEAGUE .COM. WE NEED TO REALLY KIND OF TRACK. HOW MANY WE CAN TAKE ON THAT NIGHT. RSVPS GOING TO BE VERY NICE. SO BMX OPEN HOUSEKEEPING. PUT THAT ON YOUR CALENDAR. THE DOCUMENT SHREDDING AND EVERY CYCLING EVENT SATURDAY , APRIL 23RD FROM NINE AM TO NOON AT THE MARYSVILLE POLICE MUNICIPAL COURT FACILITY. THE EVENT IS FREE AND OPEN TO RESIDENTS AND NON RESIDENTS.

GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO GET RID OF SOME, UH SHREDDING DOCUMENTS AND SOME E RECYCLING ARBOR DAY EVENT . JOIN US AS WE CELEBRATE THE 150TH ANNIVERSARY OF ARBOR DAY, FRIDAY, APRIL 29TH AT 8 15. IN THE MORNING AT MILL VALLEY PARK , SOUTH 10 67 CREEK VIEW DRIVE, URBAN FORESTRY PROGRAM UPDATE PROVIDED BY OUR URBAN FOREST OR ANDY EVANS. THERE WILL BE THREE TREE PLANTINGS, PROCLAMATION READ BY COUNCIL PRESIDENT MARK REAMS AND FREE COFFEE, ORANGE JUICE AND DONUTS PROVIDED BY SHADED CITY. ONLY APPROPRIATE, SO IT'S A NEAT EVENT EVERY YEAR THAT WE DO THAT WE PLANT TREES ON ARBOR DAY, AND SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT DRUG TAKE BACK DAY COMING UP APRIL 30TH.

UH AT WALGREENS FROM 10 A.M. TO TWO P.M. SO HAVE THAT ON YOUR CALENDAR AS WELL WITH THAT. I'M GONNA SHIFT IT DOWN TO JEREMY. YEAH, THANKS, TERRY. SOME UPDATES FROM THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION SIDE OUR CITY CREWS IN THE STREETS DEPARTMENT ARE WORKING ON TEMPORARY PARKING

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AND THEN THE FINAL UPDATE. I HAVE BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO KYLE. UM WE'RE PREPARING TO PAINT THE STREETLIGHT POLES AND THE UPTOWN SO AS A RESULT OF THE FIBER APP IS DOWN BECAUSE WE HAD TO TAKE DOWN ALL THE I SAY IT WRONG. KYLE CAN CORRECT ME. BUT ALL THE I T STUFF THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE GATEWAYS AND WHATNOT, SO IT'LL BE DOWN UNTIL THE PAINTING OCCURS.

UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S HIGHLY WEATHER DEPENDENT. THEY WERE ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE OUT HERE TODAY TO POWER WASH, BUT DIDN'T THINK THEY COULD GET ENOUGH DAYS OF DRY WEATHER. WE'RE HOPING I'M MEETING WITH THE GENTLEMAN TOMORROW FROM MARTIN PAINTING. HOPING TO WRAP THAT UP IN THE NEXT 2 TO 3. WEEKS IS THE PLAN, BUT WE GOT ALL THE BANNERS DOWN WITH AMANDA'S HELP, AND WE'VE GOT A PLAN MOVING FORWARD WITH EVERYTHING, SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KYLE NOW FOR SOME ENGINEERING UPDATES. THANKS JEREMY AND GET SOME UPDATES ON THE CURRENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

LAST WEDNESDAY, WE OPEN BIDS FOR OUR EAST FOURTH STREET BRIDGE REPLACEMENT PROJECT. THE ENGINEERS ESTIMATE WAS 750,000. WE RECEIVED ONE BIDDER. IT WAS JANE JANE SCHLEGEL 823,000, SO THEY ARE WITHIN THE 10% RANGE. UM AND WE'VE REVIEWED EVERYTHING AND FEEL COMFORTABLE WARNING THAT BENT TO JANE J. SCHLEGEL. NEXT PROJECT IS THE UPTOWN ALLEY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. IF ANYBODY'S BEEN AROUND THE UPTOWN THERE, THEY'VE MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS WITH THAT PROJECT OVER THE LAST 2 TO 3 WEEKS, SO CONCRETE WORK CONTINUES THIS WEEK, AND THE PROJECT CONTINUES ON SCHEDULE. AH JUST TO REMIND THAT WE'RE HOPING THAT ALL THE HARDSCAPE IS DONE BEFORE MEMORIAL DAY. NEXT PROJECT IS THE JOINT WRECK RESTROOM AND CONCESSION FACILITY ARE CONTRACTORS HOPING TO TURN THAT OVER TO US OR I SHOULD SAY THE JOINT WRECK WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, SO THEY'RE WRAPPING UP JUST THE FINAL FINAL TOUCHES ON THAT PROJECT. IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO TURNING THAT OVER TO JOINT WRECK WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. THE HICKORY GATE STORM BONNIER IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT THAT'S THE PROJECT WHERE LAST WINTER THEY STARTED TO INSTALL THE PEPPER BUSH COURT CULVERT PORTION OF THAT PROJECT. CONTRACTOR HAD TO PULL OFF DUE TO SOME UTILITIES NOT BEING RELOCATED IN TIME. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE OUT THIS WEEK TO WRAP UP THAT PROJECT. UM NEXT ONE, THE PUMP STATION TWO AND THE JEROME TOWNSHIP WATER TOWER PROJECTS. BOTH THOSE CONTINUE. UM ON SCHEDULE. WE HAVE A CONCRETE PRE POUR MEETING FOR THE PUMP STATIONS NEW PROJECT TOMORROW SO WITH THAT YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. I THINK. I WANTED TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON THE ACHIEVEMENT OVER ON WALDO ROAD.

THE, UM IS IT. NO RAYMOND ROAD. I'M SORRY. WHERE YOU WAITED LONG ENOUGH SO THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY LAY DOWN THE PIPING FOR THE WATER? YEAH IN FOR INLAND. AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU HAD TO GO WITH CASH, BUT THEN GOING ACROSS, UM, YOU WERE ABLE TO PUT IN EXTRA CURVING AND DEFINITELY HAVE ENHANCED THE WHOLE AREA. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WENT UNDERNEATH THE RAILROAD WITH BRAIDED BIND ACHIEVEMENT AND ALSO UNDER THE ENTRANCE TO THE CATHOLIC CEMETERY. CORRECT. SO THERE WAS 11 THING THAT I WAS WONDERING ABOUT? YEAH AND THAT IS, UM SO YOU, YOU, YOU YOU WENT FROM BASICALLY WHAT YOU CALL THAT SOUTH OF THE THAT WOULD BE ALMOST WEST. AND IN THE WEST OF THE EAST. WHERE DID YOU MAKE THE CONNECTION TO THE EXISTING BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT THAT

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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DONALD WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO JEREMY, TOO. AND CITY STAFF. UM YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR IN SEPTEMBER , JEREMY JEREMY WALKED AROUND WITH ME IN THE UPTOWN WE TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER OF ISSUES AND I ASKED, YOU KNOW IF WE COULD BUDGET SOME MONEY TOGETHER AND HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE UPTOWN PAINTED, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO WHEN I SERVED ON TEAM MARYSVILLE , TERRY WAS KIND ENOUGH TO APPOINT ME AS CHAIRMAN OF INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE UPTOWN AND WE TALKED ABOUT PAINTING BENCHES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND THAT GOT DONE. AND YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT THINK YOU KNOW WHY IS THAT A BIG DEAL TO HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE PAINTED, YOU KNOW WHO CARES IS JUST A LIGHT BULB COMPARED TO THE MILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS THAT'S ALREADY GOING ON . BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT THE AESTHETICS AND ONCE YOU INVEST IN YOUR CITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. AND BECAUSE IT ADDS TO YOUR PROPERTY VALUES, YOU KNOW, IT ADDS TO THE AESTHETICS AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE. YOU WANT TO PAINT A ROOM OR PAINT YOUR DOOR OR PUT IN A NEW LIGHT FIXTURE IN YOUR HOUSE. YOU KNOW, YOU DO IT BECAUSE IT BRINGS YOU PARIDE THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO DO IT. FIRST OF ALL, BUT ALSO YOU'RE ADDING AN INVESTMENT NOT ONLY IN YOUR HOME BUT INTO YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT SO I JUST SAY THANK YOU TO CITY STAFF FOR MAKING THAT HAPPEN. AND IT WAS EXCITING TO SEE THE SEE THE WORKS BEING DONE AHEAD OF US. SO IT'S ALRIGHT. SPORADIC AS WE WORKED THROUGH IT, YEAH. SO THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY REPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ERIC THANK YOU, MR

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RECREATION CONSERVATION PROJECT PASSED THROUGH GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES AND I DO HAVE A PDF TO SHARE. THIS IS THE CONNECTOR BRIDGE. THIS IS AN AWESOME PROJECT, JUST A REMINDER OF WHAT WE'LL PUT ON THE SCREEN OF WHAT IT WILL PAY ALL THAT KYLE KIND OF LAY IT OUT FOR YOU A LITTLE BIT. BUT IT'S REALLY NEAT THAT IT'S REMOVING FORWARD.

BUT THIS PIECE OF THIS RESOLUTION IS JUST SIMPLY A ONE READING ONLY RESOLUTION GRANTING THAT AUTHORIZATION. SO, KYLE, YOU MIND BREAKING IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. THANKS, TERRY. SO WE WERE NOTIFIED JUST OVER A YEAR AGO THAT WE RECEIVED CAPITAL BILL FUNDING FROM THE STATE IN THE AMOUNT OF $500,000 TO HELP FUND THE RESERVOIR TO CONNECTOR BRIDGE, WHICH WILL CONNECT MILL VALLEY, OR I SHOULD SAY THAT COMMUNITY EAST OF MILLCREEK ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE RESERVOIR.

THIS IS AS TERRY MENTIONED THIS IS AN AWESOME, EXCITING PROJECT. TO EXTEND THEIR TRAIL NETWORK.

UM LEGISLATION IN FRONT OF YOU IS JUST TO AUTHORIZE TERRY TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE STATE WHERE THEY WILL FUNDS $500,000 OF THIS PROJECT AS LONG AS WE CARRY AND FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE PROJECT, SO THE ONLY QUESTIONS UM AS FAR AS TIMELINE. WE JUST SELECTED A CONSULTANT FOR THIS, SO THEY STILL HAVE TO GO DO SURVEY WORK AND WE GOT TO DESIGN THE PROJECT, BUT CONSTRUCTION SHOULD TAKE PLACE IN 2023 SO NEXT YEAR. WHAT'S THE TOTAL ESTIMATE FOR THE TOTAL PROJECT? THE PROJECT? WE'RE THINKING AROUND 800 TO A MILLION RIGHT NOW, SO THIS WOULD COVER ROUGHLY HAVE. HEY, ARE THERE ANY COUNCIL QUESTIONS? I THINK IT'S GONNA BE GREAT THERE SO CLOSE, BUT YOU CAN'T GET TO THEM WITHOUT GOING MILES OUT OF YOUR WAY, SO IT'LL BE NICE TO CONNECT THOSE RESOURCES. ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS. MR PRESIDENT AND MAKE A MOTION TO PASS LEGISLATION ROLL CALL. MR REEMS ? YES MR ROUSH? YES BURBEY? YES, MR CARPENTER? YES MR SEYMOUR GROUP. MR BERGER? YES SEVEN. YES, CHARACTERS. THANKS. RESOLUTION, BE FIRST READING

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REIMBURSED THAT WAS THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR THE FINANCE GUY TOTALLY FORGOT THE WORD REIMBURSED. SO ANYWAY, UM OBVIOUSLY AND NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE FUNDING. WE CERTAINLY HAVE.

THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE TO FRONT FOR THIS PROJECT AND CERTAINLY THANK YOU GUYS CAN ALL SPEAK BETTER TO THE NECESSITY OF TAKING DOWN THIS PARTICULAR GAS STATIONS, BUT NO HAND OFF THE TIM TO SPEAK TO ANY SORT OF LEGAL ISSUE REGARDING THIS JUST BRIEFLY, THE LAND OR LAND.

BECKER COUNTY LAND RE UTILIZATION. CORPORATION RECIPIENTS OF FUNDING MOVEMENT.

UH WE'LL GO THROUGH THEM AND WE'LL HAVE TO BE REIMBURSED THROUGH THE METHOD. SO THAT'S

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THANK YOU. A COUNCIL COMMENTS. QUESTIONS YES. OH, ELLEN GOES FIRST. IT'S AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE STATE HAS SET ASIDE 350 MILLION OR SOME HUGE AMOUNT TO BE DISTRIBUTED IN DIFFERENT BUT BUT OUR ALLOTMENT IS LIMITED TO 300,000 GIVE OR TAKE RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND THAT RIGHT? 1000 IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY OUR ZACH OR CUTTING FORCE OFFICERS COULD GO OVER THAT, OF COURSE, HALF A MILLION 600,000 OR SO THAT'S CORRECT, OK? WHICH WE PICK UP THE DIFFERENCE. WE DON'T EXPECT IT TO. WE HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE WITH THIS JUST UP THE STREET. UH WE SHOULD BE FAIRLY CLOSED. OKAY THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD POINT WITH REGARD TO HOW MUCH SO MUCH THAT WAS IF THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE OR HAVEN'T BEEN ANY ANY BUSTER FINDINGS AGAINST THAT SITE, SO, UM WE DON'T REALLY WE'RE NOT EXPECTING ANYTHING MAJOR. FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW THIS IS THE SWIFTY GESTATION. YES, THANK YOU. THINY TRAIL IS THAT THE CITY WILL GIVE THE CONTACT THE CITY BASED AT 310,000. THEN THE CITY SUBMITS THAT TO THE LAND BANK. THE A AND THEN THE LAND BANK SENDS IT TO THE WELL THERE'S THE LAND BANK HAS TO 310 OR DO THEY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THEY GET UP ON THE STATE? I ASSUME THE WAY YOU JUST DESCRIBED IT AS AS WELL. THEY WOULD DO IT THAT THE LAND BANK WITH CEMENT ON OUR BEHALF BEHALF , THEN THE MONEY WILL BE SENT TO THE LAND BANK WHO WOULD THEN OKAY ALREADY PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE . HOW LONG IS IT BEFORE WE CAN EXPECT PAYMENT ON OTHER DEBT? TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I HAVE NO PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. IT'S A NEW PROGRAM, SO I DON'T I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO GO THROUGH THE REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS. OKAY BUT THE MONEY THE MONEY BY THE STATE IS ALLOCATED SO IT SHOULDN'T BE A CONCERN. I MEAN, IT WOULD BE WELL BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. I WOULD SAY THAT OKAY? MUCH ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT WAS IN THE PROCESS TO GET THE FUNDING IS GOING TO OCCUR BEFORE WE UM, BEFORE WE COMMIT OURSELVES TO ANY PROJECT , OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT IF THE TOTAL COST RUNS OVER THAT 3 10 DO WE? THE CITY COUNCIL PICKED THAT UP, OR IS THAT GOING TO BE THE LAND BANK THAT WOULD PICK UP THE DIFFERENCE? AH WE REALLY DON'T EXPECT US TO RUN WITH 3 33 ATTEMPTS DOLLARS, BUT IF IT DOES, I IMAGINE BE US AT THAT POINT. AND AGAIN IF IT. WE WON'T . I DON'T THINK WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THE PROJECT. IF UNLESS WE GET PERMISSION FROM COUNCIL TO GO OVER THE 300, THE AMOUNT THAT WERE AWARDED THROUGH THE GROUND. YEAH ONE THING THAT WE DIG REACH OUT TO CONSULTANTS AND CONTRACTORS TO GET ESTIMATES ON THAT PRICE. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT CAME UP FOR OR CAME UP FROM. I WOULD JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST TWO POINTS VERY QUICKLY. FIRST I WANT TO SAY AGAIN. THANK YOU TO TERRY. AND I KNOW CHRIS MINK FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME TO MY OWN BANK AND TALK ABOUT THIS. KARAPETYAN GENERAL. AS WE ALL KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE GAS STATION IS NOT AND YOU KNOW IT IS A PART OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S IN MY WARD AND I'M IN LIVING DISTANCE FROM THIS PROPERTY. SO UM, YOU KNOW, GETTING THIS CLEANED UP WAS WAS A PRIORITY, NOT ONLY TO ME, BUT A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA. SO THIS WILL BE A GREAT, YOU KNOW, RELIEF TO GET RID OF THIS PROPERTY OF OUR MAIN DRAGON TOWN. UM, THE OTHER PART.

I WILL JUST SAY THAT YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS SHOWS YOU HOW DILIGENT. WE MUST BE WHEN ALLOWING MORE GAS STATIONS TO BE BUILT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE BUILT IN AREAS WHERE THEY ARE SOMETIMES OUT OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW GAS STATIONS ARE NOT GETTING SMALLER. THEY'RE GETTING BIGGER AND THE MORE BIG AND THE BIGGER THEY GET THE MORE TAXPAYING MONEY. IT'S GOING TO COST TO CLEAN THESE PROPERTIES

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THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. I'D MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THE EMERGENCY CLOSE. OKAY? ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. PROTOCOL. MR ROUSH? YES MR BURBEY? YES MR CARPENTER? YES MR SEYMOUR GROUP . MR. BERGER YES, MR REEMS? YES. SEVEN. YES. MR PRESIDENT, A MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE THIRD READING. THANK YOU. ROLL CALL, MR BURBEY? YES, MR CARPENTER? YES MR SEYMOUR. MRS. GROPE MR BERGER. MR REEMS? YES MR ROUSH? YES. SEVEN. YES. OKAY, SO THIS WILL BE BACK AT OUR NEXT

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WE HAVE A MOTION SO MOVED. ROLL CALL, MR CARPENTER? YES MR SEYMOUR WROTE. YES MR BERGER? YES MR REEMS? YES MR ROUSH? YES MR BURBEY? YES SEVEN. YES THERE ANY FURTHER COUNSEL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THIS WAY BACK FOR A SECOND READING ON MONDAY, APRIL 25. ORDINANCE BE SECOND READING

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THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER. A COUNCIL COMMENTS. ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS ON THIS LEGISLATION.

AND WE DID WAVE THE THIRD READING AND OUR LAST MEETING. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO PASS? MOVE, MR. PRESIDENT CALL MRS GROAT. YES MR BERGER? YES MR REEMS? YES MR ROUSH? YES BURBEY. MR CARPENTER? YES, SEYMOUR. SEVEN YES, MOTION CARRIES. ORDINANCE D THIRD READING TITLE, ONLY TO

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ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS NOTHING FURTHER. COUNCIL. MR PRESIDENT. MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. OKAY WE'LL CALL MR REEMS. YES MR ROUSH? YES YES, MR CARPENTER? YES, SEYMOUR. MRS. GROUP YES, MR BERGER? YES YES, CARRIES. ORDINANCE F THIRD READING TITLE ONLY TO AMEND

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CARPENTER YES. MR SEYMOUR WROTE . YES MR BERGER? YES MR REEMS? YES. SEVEN. YES, CARRIES.

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DO WE HAVE EMOTION? MR PRESIDENT. SO MOVED. OKAY. ROLL CALL. MR BERGER. YES. I'M SORRY.

WE ARE WAIVED THE THIRD READING, OKAY? SORRY I CAN'T TELL YOU SAID THAT'S ALL RIGHT. MR REEMS . MR ROUSH? YES MR BURBEY? YES MR CARPENTER? YES MR SEYMOUR. MRS. GROWTH? YES. SEVEN. YES. MR PRESIDENT. I MAKE A MOTION TO PASS AWAY AT THE AMENDED LEGISLATION. OKAY ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL, BUT I WOULD JUST HAVE ONE JUST ONLY HAVE 11 QUESTION. I MEAN, ONE STATEMENT TO MAKE. WE HAVE SAID THAT THERE'S BENEFITS ALL BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE UPTOWN BUT WE HAVE NOT HAD ONE. WE THE CITY HAS NOT WENT AROUND AND TALKED TO MY ACKNOWLEDGE BUSINESS OWNERS. NOR HAVE WE HAD A PROPERTY OWNER WHO DOESN'T SELL ALCOHOL, ALCOHOL, COME TO CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND DISCUSS THIS. WE'VE ONLY HEARD FROM THE BUSINESS OWNERS WHO SELL ALCOHOL AT THEIR ESTABLISHMENTS, ENCOURAGING THIS PROPOSAL TO BE VOTED ON. THE ONE THING THAT I AM GLAD TO HEAR IS THAT WITH HERITAGE OHIO COMING IN, AND I AM I'M TRULY MEAN THIS I AM VERY GRATEFUL THAT THIS COUNCIL REQUESTED THE 5000. I THINK IT WAS BY THE VERY FIRST YEAR THAT I WAS ELECTED TO, YOU KNOW, BRING HERITAGE OHIOAN AND YOU KNOW, I'M VERY TRULY AND WE ALL KNOW THAT HERITAGE HERITAGE. OHIO MAKES HUGE AMOUNTS OF ECONOMIC SUCCESS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY ARE, AND I HOPE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD AS A COUNCIL, WE START YOU KNOW , SPEAKING ABOUT THESE ISSUES, TALKING ABOUT THESE ISSUES AND ABOUT YOU KNOW OTHER WAYS WHERE WOULD DIRECTLY IMPACT ALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND IN THE UPTOWN IN A POSITIVE, NOT SAYING THAT THIS WILL NOT I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE EXPERTS IN THE ROOM NOW TO TALK ABOUT THESE KINDS OF DISCUSSIONS MOVING FORWARD, SO I THINK YOU ALL APPRECIATE IT. OKAY, THANK YOU. ROLL CALL. MR REEMS? YES MR ROUSH? YES YES, MR CARPENTER? YES, MR SEYMOUR. I BELIEVE IN

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AND THEN YOU ALREADY HEARD MY COMMENTS ON THE NEXT BASICALLY. MHM WELL, ONCE YOU STARTED, I HAVE TO ADMIT, ONCE SHE STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT, I THOUGHT I WAS LOOKING AT THE WRONG PIECE OF LEGISLATION. GLAD YOU CLARIFIED. WORKING AHEAD HERE, YOU GUYS ANY COUNCIL COMMENTS.

THE MOTION PASSED THIS MR PRESIDENT WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PASS ORDINANCE K. ROLL CALL, MR ROUSH? YES BE YES, MR CARPENTER . YES, MR SEYMOUR. MRS GROAT? NO. MR BERGER? YES, MR REEMS. SIX YES, CARRIES. ORDINANCE L THIRD READING TITLE, ONLY TO APPROVE A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT

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FROM VILLAGE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. BRD HOSPITAL MIXED JUICE HMD, LOCATED ON LONDON AVENUE. OKAY. ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS. YOU HEARD IT WAS. THIS CAME FROM PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS PREVIOUSLY . ARE THERE ANY OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS ON THIS LEGISLATION? PASSED THE LEGISLATION ROLL CALL. MR CARPENTER. YES MR SEYMOUR. MRS GROAT, MR. BERGER MR REEMS? YES MR ROUSH? YES, MR BURBEY. YES SEVEN. YES, MOTION CARRIES. RIGHT ORDINANCE IN

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PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT YOUR QUESTION IS TALKING 10 YEARS 75% YES, AND HE'LL HE'LL BREAK IT DOWN IN THIS ENTIRE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. RIGHT I JUST WANTED TO TEST THAT POINTER INTEND ON MAKING FULL AND JUDICIOUS USE OF IT. ALRIGHT, SN TO REVIEW THE TAX RECEIPTS COLLECTED FROM MARYSVILLE PLAZA SITE IS CURRENTLY BEING UTILIZED . PRESENT TAX AND FEE ESTIMATES . RECEIPT ESTIMATES AS A RESULT OF PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, UTILIZING TIPPED AT THAT MARYSVILLE PLAZA SITE. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO EXAMINE THE ASSUMPTIONS UTILIZED TO DRIVE THAT TAX AND FEE ESTIMATES. WANT TO BE CLEAR. OBVIOUSLY, EVERYONE ON THE PODIUM KNOWS THIS SITE VERY WELL. BUT FROM PUBLIC STANDPOINT, JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT INSIDE THE DASH LINE IS THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EXISTING HOW PARCELS THE WINDIES THE OLD BANK SLASH DENTAL OFFICE. IS NOT A PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THAT THAT ROAD FRONTAGE WOULD BE BECOME COMMERCIAL LOTS AND THEN WHAT WOULD BE SITS BEHIND IT ROUGHLY I'LL JUST USE A SOUTH JUST FROM RELEVANCE OF THIS PICTURE WOULD BE THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. MM HMM. SO TIFF

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WE DO COLLECT, UM VARIOUS TAXES AND FEES ON SITE CURRENTLY. THERE ARE FOUR BUSINESSES OPERATE ON THE 14.4 ACRE SITE, A SUBWAY SMOKER'S PARADISE, SUNRISE CLEANERS AND THE ASPCA.

MOST OF THE EMPLOYEES OF THESE BUSINESSES MAYBE PART TIME BUT FOR THE SAFETY COMPARISON, I ASSUMED THAT A TOTAL OF 20 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES AVERAGING $15 AN HOUR OPERATE ON THE FORESIGHT SO THESE WILL BE FULL TIME EQUIVALENTS. UM SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF 41,600 HOURS. PAID 20 EMPLOYEES TIMES 2080 HOURS A YEAR, TONS $15 AN HOUR IS $9360 OF INCOME TAX COLLECTED. PER YEAR FROM THOSE EMPLOYEES. PROPERTY TAX. THE CURRENT CITY OF MARYSVILLE CURRENTLY RECEIVES $3150 IN PROPERTY TAX AND UTILITY CHARGES FROM THE FOUR BUSINESSES OPERATING THE SITE ARE APPROXIMATELY $7340 A YEAR. SO TO SUMMARIZE 3 60 31 50. 73 40. ANTICIPATED COLLECTIONS WE ESTIMATE AS FOLLOWS. WE ESTIMATE 360 RESIDENTS FOR THE 240 UNITS. THERE ARE 121 BEDROOM UNITS. 114 2 BEDROOM UNITS AND 63 BEDROOM UNITS. WE FOR THE SAKE OF OUR ASSUMPTIONS ASSUME THAT EACH ONE BEDROOM WILL HAVE A MINIMUM ONE WAGE EARNER THAT WOULD BE 100 AND 20 WAGE PAYING RESIDENTS.

AND FOR THE TWO AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS, WE WILL ASSUME TO WAGE EARNERS PER UNIT. EVEN IF THERE'S A CHILD IN THE UNIT, THE MOST LIKELY STEREOS TWO PARENT HOUSEHOLD WITH BOTH BEING WAGED EARNERS TO OUR 40 WAGE PAYING RESIDENTS. SO THAT'S HOW WE GET TO 360 RESIDENTS. MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME IN 2020 WAS $79,016 THAT IS SOURCED FROM THE CENSUS DOT GOV QUICK FACTS WEBSITE. WE'LL ASSUME A 3% SALARY GROWTH RATE OVER THE 10 YEAR PERIOD. IN 2025. THIS WILL BE THE FIRST YEAR WE ANTICIPATED FULL YEAR COLLECTIONS BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE SEARCH YOU KNOW THE BUILDING WILL BE DONE AND SUPPOSEDLY FULL FOR A WHOLE YEAR. WE ESTIMATE INCOME TAX COLLECTIONS AND THAT EUROPE $466,250. PRIOR TO THE UNITS BEING COMPLETED, WE WILL COLLECT INCOME TAXES ON THE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS AND THE VISION DEVELOPMENT STAFF OF SIGNS OF THE SITE. SUMMARIZED THERE. WE EXPECT OVER THE TWO YEAR CONSTRUCTION PERIOD, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY SPAN THREE YEARS. IF THEY START SAYING THE SUMMER OF THIS YEAR, JUST CLARIFY INCOME TAX COLLECTION B 207,000 OVER THE TWO YEAR CONSTRUCTION PERIOD FOR THE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS AND $7500 OVER THE TWO YEAR PERIOD FOR THE VISION DEVELOPMENT EMPLOYEES. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT IN THE THREE PLANNED COMMERCIAL OUTLAWS, I HAVE NO VALUE ESTIMATED IN HERE. AND THAT'S SIMPLY BECAUSE WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESSES MAY UTILIZE THESE OUTLAWS. HOWEVER IT'S SAFE TO ASSUME THAT THE AMOUNTS COLLECTED WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY GREATER THAN THE AMOUNTS COLLECTED FROM THE BUSINESS IS CURRENTLY OPERATING ON THE SITE.

BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THEY WILL BE IN MULTI TENANT BUILDINGS AND SOME OF THEM AND SO FORTH. SO I WOULD ASSUME THERE'LL BE MORE THAN FOUR BUSINESSES OPERATING IN THOSE COMMERCIAL OUTLAWS. BUT ONCE AGAIN WHAT THEY ARE, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES POSSIBLE TO SAY AT THIS TIME? SO OUR INCOME TAX YEARLY COLLECTIONS ESTIMATE. MOVING THROUGH. SO IN 2022, THAT WOULD BE JUST THE CONSTRUCTION DIVISION STAFF 69,000. REMEMBER WE CURRENTLY COLLECT AN ESTIMATED 9000. 2023 IS WHEN WE WOULD START SEEING. UM OBVIOUSLY , WE HAVE A WHOLE YEAR OF CONSTRUCTION THAT'S REPRESENTED THEIR 2020 FOR THE APARTMENTS ARE DONE. WE'LL ASSUME THAT WE'RE GOING TO FILL UP. THAT BRINGS US UP TO TURNER, 95,007 OR $10. AND THEN FROM THAT POINT ON, WE HAVE FOUR FULL BUILDING ESTIMATED OUT ALL THE WAY TO 2034 2034 DAYS IS AN IMPORTANT DAY TO REMIND, REMEMBER, AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO THIS PRESENTATION BECAUSE IT'S THE LAST YEAR UH, WELL, I SHOULD SAY 2033 IS THE LAST YEAR THE TIFF WOULD BE ACTIVE. AND WE ASSUME A HALF YEAR AND 2033 BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN HALF YEAR AND 2022 HALF YEAR AND 2023 INTERCEDING NINE YEARS SO 2034 IS AN IMPORTANT

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SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE SHOULD CONSIDER EVERYTHING I'VE ESTIMATED HERE THE BARE MINIMUM OF WHAT I WOULD EXPECT THESE NUMBERS TO GO UP NINE. SO ONCE AGAIN IN 2022, WE COLLECT 31 50 2023. WE HAVE THAT HALF YEAR OF THE TIFF HALF YEAR OF QUOTE UNQUOTE NORMAL COLLECTION THAT 58 39. THEN IT GOES UP TO ABOUT $8500 A YEAR. MOVING UP THROUGH THERE. ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE 2034 IS THE FULL YEAR PROBABLY TEST COLLECTIONS WITHOUT THE 75% TIP IN PLACE. SO THE TOTAL OVER THAT SAME PERIOD THAT WE DISCUSSED IN INCOME TAXES $138,691. WE ALSO HAVE ONE TIME FEES. SO THESE ARE BASED ON 240 UNITS. KYLE WORKED THESE UP. I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON HIM, BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE HIM. THERE'S SOME OBVIOUSLY SOME BIG NUMBERS HERE FOR PARKLAND FEES, QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS IN THERE. OBVIOUSLY WATER AND CAPACITY FEES. THOSE ARE BIG NUMBERS, BUT THEY ARE OFFSET BY CAPACITY FEE CREDITS THAT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THIS COUNCIL. OVER THE TOTAL, AND THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A MIX. I SHOULD SAY OF GENERAL FUNDING ENTERPRISE FUND, ALTHOUGH THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS IS ENTERPRISE FUND IS 1.8 MILLION. IN ONE TIME FOR THE ANTICIPATED ONE TIME FEE COLLECTIONS. SORRY TO INTERRUPT IN REGARDS TO THE CREDIT. THERE'S A TON OF TAPS OUT THERE THAT KROGER HAS ALREADY PAID FOR. SO REALLY, ALL THEY'RE DOING IS GETTING THEIR MONEY BACK FOR THE TAPS THAT THEY HAVE OUT THERE, SO IT'S SANTA AND THEY'RE JUST TRADING THEM ONCE THEY CURRENTLY HAVE OUT THERE.

CURRENT VERSUS ANTICIPATED UTILITY CHARGES. SO ONCE AGAIN THE CURRENT UTILITY CHARGES OR 73 40 OVER THE MOST RECENT 12 MONTH PERIOD DISCUSSED THAT EARLIER FOR THE ANTICIPATED USAGE CHARGES. I TOOK TWO MULTIMEDIA PROJECTS CURRENTLY IN THE CITY, KIM OR PLACE. 265 UNITS AND RESIDENTS OF WOODSIDE 121 UNITS. THE AVERAGE UTILITY BILL FOR THESE TWO COMPLEXES RAN BETWEEN $64.73 DOLLARS PER MONTH . SO THEREFORE, FOR COMPARISON, I JUST USE THE SIMPLE $70 PER MONTH PER UNIT. FOR FUTURE COLLECTIONS, WITH NO ANTICIPATED INCREASES IN WATER AND SEWER RATES, WHICH WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH HOW WE'VE OPERATED FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. $70 A MONTH TIMES, 12 MONTHS TIME TO ARM 40 UNITS, $201,600 A YEAR. IN FUTURE UTILITY CORRECTIONS FOR THE 240 UNITS. SO. 2034 TAX AND UTILITY COLLECTION SUMMARY. CURRENT COLLECTION, 2022 93, 60 AND INCOME TAX AFTER DEVELOPMENT AFTER THE TIP, EXPERT ROSE IN 2030 BUCKS EXPIRES IN 2033, BUT IN 2034 608,000 AND $52, AN INCREASE OF ALMOST $600,000. PROPERTY TAX GOES FROM 3100 TO 34 8 FOR AN INCREASE OF $31,700 UTILITY CHARGES GO FROM 7000 WILL SAY $400. 2 $201,600 FOR AN INCREASE OF $194,260. TOTAL INCREASE ALL FUNDS 824,948. AND OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S A 2022 TO 2034 COMPARISON. SCHOOL AND COUNTY ANTICIPATED TAX COLLECTIONS. AS THE CITY. THE SCHOOL AND COUNTY WILL CONTINUE CLARK 25% OF THEIR PORTION OF THEIR IMPROVED TAXABLE VALUE DURING THE PERIOD . THE HIGHLIGHT AMOUNTS ARE THE CURRENT PROPERTY TAX COLLECTIONS AND ONCE AGAIN USING THAT 2034 NUMBER WHAT THEY ANTICIPATED TO BE AFTER THE TIFF IS EXPIRED. ONCE AGAIN WITH THE 0.2% INCREASE, CALCULATED THROUGHOUT SO THE SCHOOL IS CURRENTLY SAVING $40,193 THE COUNTY $7659 THAT WILL INCREASE TO THE SCHOOL BY 2 $444,621. AND THE COUNTING $84,700. PER THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TREASURER WHO SENT AN EMAIL OUT JUST YESTERDAY SAID THAT COST EDUCATED STUDENTS FOR YEARS $11,000. THIS IS THE TOTAL COST EDUCATED STUDENT ONCE AGAIN. THOSE ARE HIS WORDS IN THE MARYSVILLE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS PAID PRIMARILY FROM A COMBINATION OF PROPERTY TAXES

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THEY DON'T OPERATE ON 112 12 30 THAT IS FROM THE OD WEBSITE. YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE. THE REPORT.

MM MARYSVILLE SCHOOL DISTRICT AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE REPORT ON THEIR MOST RECENT FOUNDATION STATEMENT. 5002.45. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE 0.45 KID IS AT, BUT I'M SURE HE'S DOING FINE. SOURCE ONCE AGAIN FROM THE OD WEBSITE. THIS MEANS THE AVERAGE STATE FOUNDATION FUNDING PER STUDENT IN 2022 $3970. I'D BE REMISS IN SAYING THAT PRETTY MUCH EVERY SINGLE FOUNDATION PAYMENT AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS RECEIVED TWO A MONTH. THIS IS THE STATE IS CONSTANTLY REEVALUATING THIS AMOUNT SO IT GOES UP A LITTLE BIT. IT GOES DOWN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE UP A LITTLE BIT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. SO JUST TO BE FAIR THAT 19 8 65 11 AND THE 5002.45 ARE FROM THOSE APRIL NUMBER PAYMENT NUMBER ONE REPORTS. IF YOU GET TO THE END OF MONTH AND PULL THEIR MOST RECENT REPORT.

THOSE NUMBERS MAY BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT THEY SHOULD BE IN OR AROUND THOSE THINGS.

SIR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TREASURER ALSO SAID THAT THE NATIONAL AVERAGE FOR KIDS PER APARTMENT IS POINT. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE HE'S SOURCE STABBED HIM USING HIM AS THE SOURCE OF THIS DOCUMENT. USING THIS AVERAGE THE FOLLOWING ESTIMATE NUMBER OF KIDS WOULD BECOME FROM THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE ONE BEDROOM. I'M ASSUMING NO KIDS IN THE TWO BEDROOM, USUALLY HIS 20.2 MULTIPLIER 23 KIDS. IN THE THREE BEDROOM. TO BE HONEST, I ADDED A LITTLE BIT TO IT. I MADE A 0.3. SO SIX UNITS, TWO KIDS COMES OUT TO 25 KIDS ESTIMATED IN THE IN THE FROM THE FACILITY RATHER BASED ON THAT POINT TO NATIONAL AVERAGE. PROPERTY TAXES COLLECTED DURING THE 10 YEAR TIFF PERIOD WILL PAY FOR THE EDUCATION AT MINIMUM 16 STUDENTS PER YEAR, WITH THE FOUNDATION FUNDING TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION . SO BASICALLY, IF I GO BACK, I'M TAKING THAT 11,000. LESS THE 39 70. AND THEN DIVIDING IT INTO I WON'T GO BACK ALL THE WAY BUT INTO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY'RE GOING TO RECEIVE EACH YEAR FROM THE TIFF EVEN AFTER 25. AFTER THE 10 YEAR TIFF EXPIRES. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S PROPERTY TAX COLLECTED WILL INCREASE TO APPROXIMATELY FOUR AND 45,000 SAW THAT IN PREVIOUS SLIDE, ALLOWING FOR THE EDUCATION OF 60 TO 65 STUDENTS A YEAR. INTO. THIS ASSUMES NO INCREASE IN FOUNDATION DOLLARS TO THE SCHOOL DURING THE PERIOD. WHICH I BELIEVE IS NOT A REALISTIC ASSUMPTION, BUT ONCE AGAIN A WORST CASE ONE. THERE ARE OTHER TAXES AND BENEFITS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND BUSINESS AND NOT REPRESENTED IN THESE AMOUNTS. AS WE KNOW COUNTIES RELY HEAVILY ON SALES TAX, MUCH LIKE WE RELY ON INCOME TAX AND ONCE AGAIN SCHOOL DISTRICT ON PROPERTY TAX. I HAVE NO ESTIMATES FOR SALES TAX IN HERE, BASED ON THIS DEVELOPMENT. FIRST OF ALL ONE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO GO IN, SO I'VE LEFT THOSE OUT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE RESIDENTS THESE 360 RESIDENTS I'M ESTIMATING ARE GOING TO BE NEW TO MARYSVILLE. THEY MAY COME FROM ANOTHER PART OF MARRIAGE, BUT SOME ARE GOING TO BE NEW. DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND INSIDE OF MARYSVILLE.

THESE ARE VERY DIFFICULT NUMBERS TO ESTIMATE I CAN TELL YOU FROM EXPERIENCE WORKING AS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SALES TAX NUMBERS. VERY DIFFICULT TO PREDICT. BUT YOU SHOULD KNOW THERE WILL BE AN INCREASE IN SALES TAX DOLLARS TO THE COUNTY. ALSO THOSE INCREASES IN RESIDENTS OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES ON THIS SITE. WILL CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE MORE BUSINESSES TO CONSIDER OPENING LOCATIONS AND MOVING TO MARYSVILLE UNION COUNTY. WE CAN ALREADY SEE THAT WITH THE NEW KROGER SITE AND THE OUTLAW THERE THAT IS NOW JUST RECENTLY COMING TO FRUITION AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. AND WE WOULD CONTINUE TO SEE THAT WITH THESE SIDES AS WELL. IN SHORT, THE WHOLE OF THE COMMUNITY WILL BENEFIT FROM THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE, NOT JUST THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

PERSONS WHO LIVE THERE ARE OPERATED BUSINESS THERE AND THOSE DIRECTLY INVOLVED WITH THE PROJECT. IN SUMMARY. THESE ARE THE TOTAL DIFFERENCES. BETWEEN YES TO THE TIFF ON THIS PROJECT AND NO INCOME TAX TO THE CITY A DIFFERENCE OF $5.7 MILLION PROPERTY TAX DIFFERENCE OF $97,246. UTILITY CHARGES. 2.196 MILLION. SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY TAX 1.24 MILLION. IN PROPERTY TAX TO THE COUNTY 236,484. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. UNLESS YOU HAVE

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SO IF WE GET DOLLARS FOR WATER OR SEWER THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE WATER AND THE SEWER SERVICE THAT WAS USED. INCOME TAX YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE SERVICES PROVIDED SO IT'S NOT ALL PROFIT, SO JUST TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, JUST LIKE THE SCHOOL AND THEY HAVE EXPENSES. WE HAVE EXPENSES THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. SO, UM. I THINK NOW WE'LL GO TO COUNCIL COMMENTS.

YOU KNOW THE ONE THING I WANT TO SAY, FIRST OFF, IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE A DISCUSSION ABOUT PRO GROWTH ANTI GROWTH. PRO BUSINESS ANTI BUSINESS DO WE NEED MORE HOUSING OR NOT? I MEAN, THOSE KINDS OF QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. THIS PROJECT HAS ALREADY BEEN THEY'RE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. THIS MEETS. YOU KNOW WHEN THIS IS BUILT, IT WILL MEET THE ANTICIPATED NEEDS FOR MULTI FAMILY AND THERE'S ANOTHER PROJECT. IN THE WINGS. YOU KNOW AFTER THIS, SO IT'S NOT A DEBATE ABOUT THE NEED FOR HOUSING OR PRO GROWTH. ANTI GROWTH. UM SO JUST KIND OF. BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TIP. ANY COMMENTS. CHAOS. I WASN'T HERE. AND I WAS GOING TO SAY FIRST OF ALL, I WASN'T EVEN GOING TO BRING UP THE HOUSING NEED THINK OTHERS HAVE HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP? I LIKE EVERY OTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL DISLIKE INCENTIVES. UM HOWEVER, THAT'S BECOME THE NORM AND WHEN YOU HAVE TARGETED DEVELOPMENT AREAS. YOU NEED TO OFFER INCENTIVES. LOOK AT THE MASSIVE INCENTIVE. THE STATE OF OHIO JUST GAVE INTEL. UM YOU KNOW HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THAT'S THE SANDBOX. WE PLAY IN. NOW, UM. AT THE LAST MEETING A FEW DIFFERENT PEOPLE. UM, WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT YOU KNOW WHAT WE WERE GIVING UP IN THE TIP OF $2.3 MILLION. BRAD AND I HAVE HAD A FEW DISCUSSIONS. I'M NOT GOING TO GO BACK THROUGH WHAT HE JUST DID BECAUSE HE DID IT MUCH BETTER THAN I DID. UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE NOT EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY AND MARYSVILLE IS CREATED EQUAL. THIS CAN BE A REAL REVENUE GENERATING PIECE OF PROPERTY. UM THERE ARE OTHER PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT YOU CANNOT GENERATE THAT KIND OF REVENUE. IF YOU LOOKED AT ANOTHER 15 ACRES, UH, YOU KNOW, ON SOME OTHER STREET SOUTHERN ROAD, UH, MILFORD AVENUE. SO HERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GETTING VERY LITTLE FOR RIGHT NOW. IT'S VERY UNDERVALUED. INTO MAKE IT A REAL. REVENUE GENERATOR. UM IT'S INTERESTING. YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION FOR YOU.

IF I WALKED IN AND SAID WE'VE GOT A MANUFACTURER, ERIC HAS THIS MANUFACTURER HE WANTS THEY WANT 15 ACRES. BUT IT'S YOUR BLIGHTED OLD KROGER PLAZA AND THEY WANT YOU TO TEAR IT DOWN BEFORE THEY COME IN, BUT THEY'RE GONNA COME IN WITH SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 242 3 360 JOBS. IT'S GOING TO BE 20 TO $30 MILLION AND PAYROLL. HOW QUICKLY WOULD WE HAVE APPROVED THAT TIFF? YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY APPROVED IT REALLY QUICKLY. UM YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS MR BERGER MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING AND EVEN SOME OTHER MEETINGS. UM MAYBE WE DON'T PLAN AS WELL AS WE SHOULD. THIS IS THE UPTOWN MARYSVILLE. REAL VITAL IZATION PLAN 2000 AND 17. PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN 2000 AND 17. SEE THAT MARRIES WELL, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 2000

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I KNOW MR. BERGER DOESN'T AGREE WITH EVERYTHING IN HERE. BUT GUESS WHAT? WE'RE A CITY COUNCIL, AND IT TAKES FOUR. SO ONE PERSON NOT LIKING WHAT'S IN HERE DOES NOT CHANGE WHAT'S IN HERE BECAUSE IT TOOK FOUR OF US TO GET TO THIS. TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS. YOU MENTIONED THAT VISION CAME TO PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL OF LAST YEAR. WHAT HAVE THEY BEEN DOING SINCE THEN? THEY'VE BEEN DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE. THEY'VE BEEN CRUNCHING NUMBERS HAVE BEEN WATCHING THE COST OF BUILDING MATERIALS SKYROCKET AND GO OUT OF THIS WORLD. SO THEY HAVE COME BACK TO US AND SAID IT DOESN'T MAKE FINANCIAL SENSE FOR US TO DO IT UNLESS WE DO THE TWO UNLESS WE GET HELP TEARING THAT BUILDING DOWN. WE WANT TO COME IN AND HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S BUILDABLE GRADE RIGHT WHEN WE GET THERE. MAYBE THEY'RE BLUFFING. MAYBE WE TURN IT DOWN AND THEY'LL BUILD IT ANYWAYS. I'VE HEARD SOMEBODY SAY THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY THINK. I'M NOT WILLING TO CALL THAT BLUFF AND I DO PLAY POKER A LOT. AND I LIKE IT. YEAH SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA KNOW WHEN NOT TO CALL THE BLUFF. SO. COUNCIL TYPICALLY HAS THREE READINGS. WE HAD OUR FIRST READING MARCH 14TH. THAT'S WHEN LEGISLATION IS INTRODUCED. THE SECOND READING IS THE FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS. THEN WE TYPICALLY HAVE A THIRD READING, WHICH IS TONIGHT. WHERE COUNCIL GETS TO TALK AND ALSO THE PUBLIC . IT'S JUST THAT YOU HAVE TO REQUEST TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK. A LOT OF TIMES WE GET INPUT AND DIALOGUE WITH RESIDENTS BETWEEN THE 2ND AND 3RD MEETING, PROBABLY BECAUSE MOST OF OUR MEETINGS DON'T HAVE A GROUP LIKE YOU SETTING OUT THERE, BUT THEY READ IT IN MAX NEWSPAPER. WELL, IT'S NOT YOUR NEWSPAPER, BUT THE BARONS NEWSPAPER. THEY READ IT IN MAX PAPER. ON TUESDAY AND THEN THEY CALL US AND ASK ABOUT IT. SO I WAS A LITTLE SHOCKED SITTING ON THE BEACH WATCHING STEVE'S YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. TOM'S UNION COUNTY DAILY DIGITAL , SO I WAS A LITTLE SHOCKED. I'M SITTING ON THE BEACH AND THERE IS A SUGGESTION MADE THAT WE WOULD WAIVE THE THIRD READING ON LEGISLATION THIS IMPORTANT, UM, ON THE SPONSOR OF THE LEGISLATION. SO I'M REALLY THANKFUL THAT THAT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE. AND THAT THIS LEGISLATION IS GOING THROUGH ITS NORMAL COURSE OF DILBERT DELIBERATION. AS PRESCRIBED BY BOTH OUR CITY CHARTER AND OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE. SO I'M REALLY THANKFUL FOR THAT. I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS FOR ALL THE REASONS, BRAD SAID. THANKS FOR TAKING CARE OF MAY NOT HAPPEN TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT SO THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. JR. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. I GUESS I'LL JUST MAKE ONE ALLEN. DID YOU WANT TO MAKE ONE? GO AHEAD? I WASN'T GONNA SAY ANYTHING. BUT I GUESS SINCE JR POINTED ME OUT, I GUESS I WILL. YOU KNOW? WE YOU KNOW, AS A ELECTED OFFICIAL, I DO AGREE WITH TIPS FOR RESIDENTIAL USE. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH US. MY PROBLEM IS THE TAX REVENUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GAIN FROM THESE DEVELOPMENTS. NOW WE WILL. WE WILL SAY THE EXAMPLE OF HOW LIKE THE BRIDGE STREET DISTRICT WAS A TIFF. THE BIRD STREET DISTRICT HAS OVER 16 RESTAURANTS. THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT VISIT THAT AREA. DUBLIN MADE THAT INTO A

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I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH GIVING OUT FUNDING AND CITY STAFF. I AM VERY THANKFUL THAT NOT ONLY THIS ADMINISTRATION BUT CITY STAFF THE RESIDENTS OF MARY'S VOTE FOR ELECTING ME AND THIS COUNCIL THAT HAS BEEN WORKING TOGETHER. TO FIND ISSUES IN OUR CODE TO FIX I'M NOT. I'M NOT HERE TO SAY EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING IS WRONG AND I THINK THE MAJORITY OF MARY'S, THOUGH WHO ACTUALLY LISTENS TO ME WERE REALIZE THAT AND SO ALL I WOULD HAVE TO SAY IS THOSE ARE JUST MY CONCERNS MOVING FORWARD IF WE'RE GOING TO USE TIFF AND FUNDING JUST WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE IF WE COULD HAVE GOT TOGETHER AND TALKED ABOUT WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE IN THESE TYPE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT? BECAUSE WE CAN ALL IN THE CITY. EVEN RESIDENTS CAN ALL SIT AND SAY WHAT AREAS OF TOWN LOOK LIKE BITES. AND THAT'S THOSE ARE JUST MY COMMENTS. AND, UM YOU KNOW ABOUT SCHOOLS? IF WE REALLY WANT TO BENEFIT OUR SCHOOLS, AND WE REALLY WANT TO TAKE THEM TO THE NEXT LEVEL. IT'S NOT WITH RESIDENTIAL BUILDS ITS WITH CORPORATE IT'S WITH BRINGING REAL PAYING JOBS AND THE COMMUNITY NOT OUTSIDE THE SEMI CITY LIMITS BUT INSIDE OF THE SEMI CITY LIMITS SO WE CAN COLLECT INCOME OFF OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WOULD NAPS. WHAT'S GOING TO DIRECTLY IMPACT OUR SCHOOLS AND PREPARE THEM FOR THE FUTURE? NOT ONLY OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT BUT ALSO FOR OUR CITY.

BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS WE AS A COUNCIL AS OF RIGHT NOW ARE NOT AN ACCENT MORE LAND. AND WE'LL KEEP BUILDING RESIDENTIAL HOMES . MARYSVILLE CANNOT AFFORD TO ALWAYS BE A BEDROOM COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS HERE WILL HAVE TO PAY MORE, BUT YOU CAN'T GET BLOOD FROM RETURN OUT. AND WE DON'T HAVE A BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THERE IS A LOT OF GROWING PAINS AND WE COULD SET OURSELVES UP FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS AND HAVE A CLEAR VISION AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE. OR WE CAN, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL PARTIALS AND JUST LOOK AT THEM AND SAY YES, THIS IS GREAT FOR THIS. SO THOSE ARE JUST MY COMMENTS. I'M NOT SAYING THAT. ALL OF OUR PLANS ARE WRONG . I'M NOT SAYING THAT COUNCIL IS DOING A BAD JOB. I NEVER RAN ON THE PHILOSOPHY OF I DIDN'T LIKE ANYBODY. I RAN ON THE PHILOSOPHY OF THERE WAS CERTAIN AGENDA ITEMS THAT I WANTED TO BRING TO THE TABLE. AND MY RECORD HAS PROVEN WITH THIS COUNCIL. THIS ADMINISTRATION CITY STAFF HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CHECK MARK A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES OFF. NOT BECAUSE OF JUST ME BUT BECAUSE OF EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM WORKING TOGETHER. SO THANK YOU TO SAY THANK YOU, ALAN. LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS. LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS THAT IS CLEARLY A NO BRAINER ECONOMICALLY AT ALL SPEAKS FOR ITSELF, MARK SAYS. LEAVE IT TO TIFF. LEAVE THE TOPICS TO TIFF THAT SPEAKS FOR IT. I MEAN, IF IT'S YOUR OWN POCKETBOOK, WHAT DECISION DO YOU MAKE? IT'S CLEAR TO ME NOT TO MENTION WE OWE IT TO OUR BUSINESSES OUTSIDE TRACK ON THE TIFF PART, BUT WE OWE IT TO OUR BUSINESSES THAT ARE HERE AND THOSE THAT ARE SEEKING TO COME TO NOT TURN DOWN APPROPRIATE LIVING OPPORTUNITIES THAT SUPPORT THEIR WORKFORCE. WE HAVE GOT TO BE A PART OF THAT BECAUSE THEY FEED US. THERE ARE COMMUNITIES, BREAD AND BUTTER. UM RESIDENTIAL ALONE CAN'T SUPPORT ITSELF, BUT BUT WE WORK OVERTIME ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO BRING BUSINESSES TO HELP OFFSET THOSE COSTS AND MARK. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE SERVICES THAT THIS IS GOING TO COST. IN AND OF ITSELF. I DOUBT IF IT'S GOING TO DRIVE AN ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICER. I DOUBT IF IT'S GOING

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IT'S AN EYESORE. FIST STREET IS A GREAT BOULEVARD. THIS WILL ONLY ENHANCE IT FURTHER WITH BUSINESSES AND DONALD WHETHER THEY'RE FAST FOOD OR WHETHER THEIR SERVICES THAT WE NEED IT'S IMPORTANT. THEY WOULD ONLY COME IF THERE'S A BUSINESS THERE FOR THEM. SO IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT US IN THE END THERE. SO HOW DO YOU OVERLOOK THOSE NUMBERS? THANK YOU, MR REEMS. CAN I MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT? BOTH OF YOU HAVE MENTIONED FAST FOOD. SO AGAIN WHERE I'M COMING HOME FROM LAST WEEK. WHEN YOU DRIVE UP 75 YOU GET OFF OF EVERY EXIT ALONG A MAJOR HIGHWAY. THERE'S ALWAYS THIS SIGN 750.2. MILES THIS WAY. 0.4 MILES THAT WAY. DR MARYSVILLE. GUESS WHAT. EVERY SINGLE FAST FOOD RESTAURANT IS WITHIN ONE HALF MILE OF THE EXIT . THERE'S NO FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS IN DOWNTOWN MARYSVILLE. THAT'S WHERE I SIT DOWN. RESTAURANT IS YES. THAT IS THE BUSINESS MODEL FOR A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT. WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET SOME MORE. NEAR. 30 THREE'S EXITS THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. BUT THAT'S BESIDE THE POINT. YEAH ABSOLUTELY BUSINESSES, WHETHER IT'S RETAIL , WHETHER IT'S SERVICE IT ON. WE WANT THE BUSINESS. WE WANT. A VIBRANT WEST FIFTH STREET, JUST LIKE THE EAST SIDE OF THE TOWN, MAYBE NOT JUST LIKE, BUT AT LEAST HAVE UNBALANCED. YES, THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. FOR ALLOWING ME THE CHANCE TO SPEAK.

UM BUT WHAT WE ALL REALLY WANT MORE THAN ANYTHING IS FOR THAT PROPERTY TO NOT LOOK LIKE WHAT IT DOES RIGHT NOW. UM SO AND I THINK WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE MARRIED THE CITY. MARYSVILLE IS FORTUNATE. THAT WE HAVE A DEVELOPER WHO HAS SHOWN INTEREST IN REDEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY, UM AND SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND PLANNING TO DO JUST THAT. I'M A NUMBERS GUY, AND I'M LOOKING. I MEAN, IT'S ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW. IF I WERE TO VOTE NO. TONIGHT WE WOULD BE MISSING OUT ON A LOT OF MONEY AS A CITY. UM, I DON'T PLAN TO VOTE. NO, I PLAN TO SUPPORT THIS TIP FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT BRAD WHENEVER, UM IT'S NOT AN EASY DECISION, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COUPLE OF THINGS CLEAR NUMBER ONE. THIS IS NOT A TAX ABATEMENT. YOU KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPERS STILL GOING TO BE PAYING TAXES ON THIS PROPERTY AND THEY'LL BE PAYING TAXES DURING THE TIP, AND THE PROPER PROPERTY WILL BE WORTH MORE DURING THE TIPS, SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE PAYING MORE IN TAXES ON THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THE PROPERTY WILL BE WORTH MORE. SO THIS IS NOT A TAX ABATEMENT.

WE'RE NOT SAYING WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A TEXT CREDIT TO THE DEVELOPER. THEY'RE STILL PAYING TAXES. UM WORD ONE. THEIR THEIR TAXES WILL NOT GO UP. SO IF YOU LIVE IN WORD ONE IF YOU LIVE IN THE CITY OR TEXAS WILL NOT GO UP AS A RESULT OF ME VOTING YES. TONIGHT. SO IT'S NOT A TAX ABATEMENT. YOUR TAXES WILL NOT INCREASE AND AS HAS BEEN DEMONSTRATED, THIS IS A MASSIVE INVESTMENT IN MARYSVILLE AND I WOULD BE PRETTY SILLY TO NOT SUPPORT SUCH AN INVESTMENT. UM SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I WILL SUPPORT THIS TIP TONIGHT, AND I WOULD. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO PASS LEGISLATION, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MAKE THE MOTION. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS TO YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE BLUFFING OR NOT, YOU KNOW, NONE OF US KNOW, RIGHT? WILL THEY DO IT? IF WE PASS IT, WILL THEY NOT? I DON'T KNOW. WE KNOW THAT THERE'S TWO OR THREE OTHER POTENTIAL, UH, USES OF THE SITE.

OTHER PEOPLE HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST SO YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING TO TAKE IN MIND. I KNOW THAT AUDITOR VALUED THIS PROPERTY AT $3 MILLION AND THE PROPERTY OWNER WHO CAME TO THE LAST MEETING AND SPOKE THAT SAID THE PROPERTY HAS NOT BEEN MAINTAINED. THAT THE BUILDINGS ARE IMPORTANT SHAPE. THEY ARGUED THAT IT'S NOT WORTH THREE MILLION AND THEY THE VALUE IS REDUCED TO TWO MILLION. SO NOW WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO BUY IT WELL, NOW THE SELLER THEY WANT TO SELL IT FOR THREE MILLION AND THE BUYER SAYS, WELL, WE CAN'T MAKE THAT WORK.

WE RAN THE NUMBERS. WE CAN'T MAKE THAT WORK. INSTEAD OF LOWERING THE PRICE. I LOOK AT IT, THEY'RE THEY'RE USING PUBLIC FUNDS TO OFFSET YOU KNOW, MAYBE WHAT WOULDN'T HAVE NEEDED TO BE DONE IF THEY WOULD HAVE MAINTAINED THIS PROPERTY? UM THE PUBLIC BENEFIT TO ME. IT COMES DOWN TO THE PUBLIC BENEFIT. YOU KNOW, THIS PROPERTY SITS BETWEEN TWO PARKS THAT'S BEEN TALKED

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YEAH, YOU GOT TO COME BACK IN AND GIVE HIS COMMENTS. YOU KNOW, I JUST BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I WANT TO MENTION YOU KNOW THIS WAS NOT ABOUT THE HOPE CENTER. I KNOW THEY CAME AND TALKED TO US AT THE LAST WEEK. IT WASN'T ABOUT YOU KNOW THIS VERSUS THE HOPE CENTER. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE IN THAT POSITION. YOU KNOW THEY'RE STILL NEEDING A HOME. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW OUR JOB AND IT'S NOT MY JOB TO APPOINT A COMMITTEE TO TELL THEM WHAT TO DO, UM OR HOW TO MANAGE THEIR PLAN OR THEIR CAPITAL CAMPAIGN WOULD SAY, THOUGH. THAT WE HAD A LOT OF STRONG COMMUNITY LEADERS THAT CAME AND SPOKE ON THIS TOPIC. A LOT OF PASSION. ON THIS TOPIC. PEOPLE WHO CAME AND IF I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE PEOPLE TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE, I WOULD SAY RICK CRAIG O. RYAN LEE.

KATIE CROCK O SPENCE FISCHER, BRUCE DANIELS. CHRIS MINK AND ERIC PHILLIPS. IF THEY COULD BRING THAT SAME PASSION TO HELP THE HOPE CENTER. TIME I THINK THEY WOULD GREATLY BENEFIT FROM THERE. SO I WISH THE HOPE CENTER LOCK WITH WHATEVER HAPPENS NEXT. JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE THING.

JUST TO PEE IN HIS TEAM. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I WAS, UM IT WAS, UM I'M VERY GRATEFUL THAT YOU TOOK THE TIME TO SPEAK TO ME ABOUT YOUR PLANS AND WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO. I ACTUALLY SAW ONE OF YOUR TEAM LEADERS IN SAVANNAH WHEN I WAS IN SAVANNAH, BUT I FELT LIKE MAYBE IT WASN'T APPROPRIATE. BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I WAS VERY GRATEFUL THAT YOU TOOK THE TIME TO TALK TO ME. AND I TRULY HOPE THAT YOU DO KNOW MY CONCERNS, AND YOU TOOK NOTES THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT IS BENEFICIAL TO YOU AND THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU. OKAY, LET'S GO TO THE COMMENTS

[COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL PERSONS AND GENERAL DISCUSSION]

[01:35:06]

LAST BUT NOT LEAST THEY NEED TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A COMPLETELY SEPARATE TOPIC. YEAH, SO. THE GIST OF THE STORY WAS IS HOW CAN THIS CITY ASK ADDITIONAL BUSINESSES? WHEN CITY COUNCIL SENDS THIS MESSAGE ? NO MORE GROWTH. YEAH AND EAST ISSUE MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY. THERE WAS THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED. YEAH SO HERE IS THE REPORT CARD THAT THE CITY OF MARRIAGE BILL HAS OKAY. THIS WAS JUST COMPLETED A LITTLE WHILE AGO. SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT NOW, YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF TOTAL USE THAT ACTIVE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND I REMAINING IS 549 SORRY. 545 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. YEAH, BUT IT'S P U D WHETHER IT'S TO INDIVIDUAL PLACES FINISHING UP CERTAIN PROJECT AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THAT I AM NUMBER OF LOTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY PENDING THE HAVE ALREADY BEEN LOOKED AT BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT THEY STILL NEED TO GET THE BLESSING FROM THE ENGINEER DEPARTMENT. YOU'RE ACTIVE IN A MULTIFAMILY UNITS. REMAINING IS 484. WITH THE PENDING ONCE THAT WE HAVE YEAH, IT BRINGS IT UP TO 750. SO THE CURRENT LARGE THAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY APPROVED TODAY AND AGAIN. THIS IS OUR REPORT CARD.

WE HAVE NOT BEEN SITTING HERE TWIDDLING OUR SOME. YEAH WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 1779 BOTTLINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. SO IF YOU TELL US THAT WE'RE NOT DOING OUR JOB WELL, I'M SORRY. BUT HERE IS THE ANSWER ON TOP OF THAT, YEAH , THE LAST TWO YEARS WE HAD THE COLEMAN SORRY. THE COOK'S POINT. YEAH. THEY HAD THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT. WE HAD KENMORE OVER ADMIRES. THAT WAS ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT AND WE HAD THE DEVELOPMENT COSTS FROM BENNY'S.

THAT WAS A TOTAL OF FAITH 100 DWELLINGS THAT THE THAT WE COULD ADD TO THIS SO 500 DWELLINGS.

ALREADY GIVEN TO THE CITIZENS. YEAH AND YESTERDAY TELLING US WE HAVE NO GROSS, BOUNCY. I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. YEAH. IN ADDITION TO THAT. THIS IN THE MONTH OF JULY. YEAH THE FLIGHTS . THE FLATS ARE THE BUILDINGS ACROSS FROM BENNY'S. THEY'RE GOING TO RELEASE 100 HOMES IN THE MONTH OF JULY. SO THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL 100 DWELLINGS. THE COOK'S POINT AGAIN IS GOING TO RELEASE 48 UNITS IN THE MONTH OF JUNE. 48 UNITS IN THE MONTH OF JULY 48 UNITS IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST AND 48 UNITS IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A TOTAL OF ALMOST 200 HOMES.

OR AVOID MINTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MADE AVAILABLE THIS YEAR. ARE YOU TELLING US? WE HAVE A NOTE? GROSS POLICY. I DON'T BELIEVE IN IT. AND LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE DONE. AND IF WE TAKE OUR TIME LIKE WE DID WITH THIS ONE AND OH, BY THE WAY. ON TOP OF THE 17 79, WITH COUNCIL YESTERDAY APPROVED THE OTHER 240. SO NOW WE ARE NORTH OF 2000 UNITS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILT. IN THE NEXT 45 YEARS.

SO PLEASE TELL ME. HOW MANY MORE DO YOU WANT? HOW MANY MORE UNITS DO YOU BOND? YEAH AND BELIEVE ME, WE, WE WILL TAKE THAT IN SERIOUS CONSIDERATION. YEAH, BUT DON'T GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT COUNCIL IS TWIDDLING ITS THUMBS AND DOES NOT WANT ANY NEW GIRLS BECAUSE WE ENCOURAGE NEW GIRLS

[01:40:09]

IN ADDITION TO THAT WE ALSO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE GROWTH WITH THE GIRLS. WE ALSO HAVE TO DEAL WITH INCREASES IN STAFFING. CURRENTLY WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW COMMUNITIES THAT, UM, ONLY TO QUOTE UNQUOTE ONLY CHARGES A DOLLAR SORRY, 1.5. WELL, ALL THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES ARE 2 2.5, 3 OR EVEN 3.5. SO THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WE ARE IN THE FUTURE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK FOR, AND THAT IS THE PRICE THAT COMES WITH THE CLOTHES. YEAH AND I AM I AM PRO GROWTH.

YEAH BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO REALIZE THAT IN THE FUTURE THAT GROWS WELCOME WITH INCREASE OF COST OF LIVING IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. COULD BE TWO YEARS COULD BE FIVE YEARS COULD BE 10 YEARS. YEAH BUT THOSE ARE THE THAT'S THE REALITY THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FACE IS THAT EVERY ACTION HAS A REACTION, OKAY? AND THE REACTION IS, AND THE REALITY IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY THAT TAXES ARE WAY HIGHER BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MANY MORE PEOPLE THAN WE HAVE BUT I THINK WE'VE ANSWERED THE CALL AND IT PROVES OUT HERE THAT WE HAVE MORE THAN 2000 UNITS. THAT'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS , MR. PRESIDENT I THIS ONE TO LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU. JR. LAND USE DECISIONS ARE ALWAYS THE TOUGHEST FOR LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS. I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DRIVE ALL OVER THE STATE IN MY REAL 9 TO 5 JOB AND SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENT CITIES. VILLAGES UM AND I LOVE COMING BACK INTO MARYSVILLE AND LOOKING AT THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON. I THINK WE CAN WE STAND UP VERY WELL WITH WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES. UM YES. GROWTH ALSO IS A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD. IT COMES WITH SOME NEGATIVES AND HOW WE MANAGE THOSE NEGATIVES. REALLY WILL, YOU KNOW, DETERMINE HOW WELL MARY'S WILL GROWS AND WHAT WE LOOK LIKE IN YEARS TO COME. THIS TIME PERIOD IS EXACTLY WHY I RAN LAST YEAR TO BE PUT BACK ON THIS COUNCIL. THE DECISIONS WE MAKE IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS ARE GOING TO HAVE GENERATIONAL EFFECTS ON MARYSVILLE. IT'S GOING TO DETERMINE WHAT MARY'S WILL LOOKS LIKE. 2030 50 YEARS FROM NOW. MY GRANDFATHER MOVED HERE IN THE 19 TWENTIES, HE LEFT THE CHUCK ARY FARM. THERE WERE TWO GENERATIONS BEFORE HIM. SO MY DAD GRADUATED FROM MARYSVILLE IN 1961 WITH UH , YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE ARE STILL AROUND. I GRADUATED IN 82. MY KIDS GRADUATED IN 2000 AND 7, 2000 AND 10. YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN HERE 100 YEARS WE'VE SEEN A CHANGE QUITE A BIT. AND IT'S INTERESTING. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT GROWTH, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT GROWTH OF THE PEOPLE THAT JUST MOVED HERE. I MOVED OUT HERE TO GET AWAY FROM THAT. AND I'M LIKE, YEAH, I'VE BEEN HERE 100 YEARS. WHAT IF WE JUST SAID NO GROWTH COUPLE OF YEARS AGO? WHERE WOULD YOU BE NOW? SO YOU KNOW, I DO THINK WE CONTINUE TO GROW. I THINK WE ARE DOING IT IN A REASONABLE MANNER. WE ARE VERY

[01:45:08]

NOBODY UP HERE IS ANTI GROWTH AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE EVEN TALK ABOUT IT. YOU CAN GO TO HUDSON, OHIO, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY PUT IN LEGISLATION IN THERE COUNCIL BACK IN THE NINETIES THAT THEY WOULD ONLY APPROVE 101 UNITS A YEAR. HUDSON OHIO IS ONE OF THE WEALTHIEST WEALTHIEST CITIES. IN OHIO. LIMITED GROWTH DOESN'T KILL YOUR CITY DOESN'T KILL BUSINESS. IT DOES THE OPPOSITE. CITIES THAT GROW AND GROW AND GROW AND GROW FOR THE FOR THE SUCCESS OF WE'RE GETTING WEALTHIER IS LIKE A CANCER. I UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW ALL OF THESE ISSUES. MY CONCERN WITH FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS. IT'S NOT THAT WE HAVE TOO MANY. OR WE HAVE TOO MANY KROGER'S OR STRIP MALLS OR WHATEVER IT IS. IT'S THE JOBS. WE ALL KNOW THE AVERAGE AMERICAN IS MAKING LESS AND LESS MONEY. YOU COULD GO TO KROGER. AND EVERY TIME YOU GO TO KROGER AND MARYSVILLE, THERE'S ANOTHER. THERE'S ANOTHER AUTOMATION LINE. BEING BEING PUT IN OR CASHIER HAS BEEN REPLACED.

OR THESE CORPORATIONS ARE GETTING THE SAME AMOUNT OF BENEFITS THAT THEY'VE ALWAYS HAD . BUT THERE'S HIRING LESS AND LESS PEOPLE, AND THEN THEY'RE DEMANDING THE WORKERS WHO ARE WORKING THERE TO DO MORE WITH LESS MONEY. IN THE MEANTIME, STUDENT LOAN DEBTS 1.6. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, IT'S A WHITEWASHED ISSUE. THERE ISN'T THERE. NOBODY CAN JUSTIFY WHAT AFFORDABILITY IS. THAT'S WHY IT'S A NATIONAL CRISIS. BECAUSE EACH ONE OF US ON DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS OF OUR LIVES AND WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT JOBS, WHICH PAID US DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF MONEY. SO MY OR MY THOUGHT PROCESS OF AFFORDABILITY IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT DEBS IS OR ALAN'S IS OR SOMEBODY ELSE'S. SO ONE OTHER COMMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO LIKE TO MAKE REALLY QUICK ABOUT THIS IS THAT I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT HOUSING, AND BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ABOUT THE TIFF, IT SEEMS LIKE COUNCILS ALWAYS ANTI GROWTH. WE DON'T HAVE VISION. IT'S THE GOOD OLD BOYS CLUB AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THEM AND I WAS READING IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL THE OTHER DAY. HOMES HAVE ROSE 19.6% IN 2000 AND 21 TO 321,006. THAT'S AN INCREASE OF 52,666 FROM 2020. THE AVERAGE AMERICAN. THIS IS A FULL TIME WORKER. BEFORE TAXES ONLY MAKES $50,000

[01:50:02]

AND LEARN. AGAIN MARYSVILLE IS NOT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE, BUT I THINK IT'S A CENTER OF OUR UNIVERSE. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. SECOND POINT. NO MATTER HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT BEING HOUSING OR BUSINESS INTELLIGENT PEOPLE WHO DO. MARKET STUDIES ARE NOT IN THIS TO LOSE MONEY. AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. ARE WE OVER THE TOP IN TERMS OF TOO MUCH RENTAL HOUSING? BUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THIS TO MAKE MONEY ARE NOT GOING TO WALK INTO IT AND LOSE THEIR SHIRTS. WITH OUR HELP. SO ALL I CAN SAY IN TERMS OF MY LIMITED BUSINESS SENSE IS NUMBER ONE. I THANK THIS COUNCIL FOR HOLDING PEOPLE'S FEET TO THE FIRE TO DO THE RIGHT THING THE RIGHT WAY. AND NUMBER TWO. I THINK IT'S SOME POINT. YOU HAVE TO TRUST THAT MARKETING STUDIES HAVE DONE WHAT THEY SHOULD'VE DONE, IF NOT WE HAVE AN AREA THAT CAN'T LOOK ANY WORSE THAN IT LOOKS NOW. THANK YOU. L GROWTH IS IMMINENT. AND WHEN WE'RE POSITION WHERE WE ARE RELATIVELY CENTRAL OHIO WE EITHER GO ALONG WITH IT. OR WE GO BACKWARDS AND BACKWARDS IS THE BAD WAY TO GO. SO WE HAVE TO EMBRACE IT AS SMART AS WE CAN ABOUT THE PROGRESS WE MAKE. UM WE CAN'T SAY NO TO IT THE WAY I READ THAT LETTER THAT HANK WAS ALLUDING TO I READ THE LETTER A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. I READ IT AS SAYING. AT A TURN DOWN OF THIS TIFF. HIS OPPOSITION TO GROWTH.

THAT'S THE WAY I READ IT. I DIDN'T READ IT THAT THE CITY IS AGAINST GROWTH. I READ IT THAT THEY WERE IMPLYING THAT IF WE TURN THIS DOWN AND SENDING THE MESSAGE THAT WE ARE NOT PRO GROWTH THAT IS, I HAVE. I COULD HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER REMARKS. YOU SAID DON'T LET IT GET UGLY WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE A GREAT WEEK AND HAVE A GREAT EASTER. YEAH WHAT A SERIOUS TALK

[01:55:03]

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* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.