Apr 25, 2022 City Council

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DECS ALLEN SEYMOUR DEBORAH GROWTH. DONALD BURGER. HERE. MARK CREAMS PRESIDENT JR ROUSH BURBEY AARON CARPENTER PRESENT. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]

TO TWO P.M. AT WALGREENS THIS SATURDAY AND THEN JUST TO ANNOUNCE UPTOWN FRIDAY NIGHTS ARE COMING UP SEASON KICKOFF CELEBRATION IS MAY 20TH. FROM 6 TO 10 P.M. THAT EVENING. THE MUSIC IS GOING TO BE BY FLEETWOOD GOLD. AND IT'S BEEN PRESENTED BY MONARCHS ROOFING COMPANIES, SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO MAY 20TH. I'LL TELL YOU NOW IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT 78 DEGREES AND SUNNY THAT DAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GOOD WEATHER. AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO SHIFT IT DOWN TO JEREMY. THANKS TERRY ON THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION SIDE.

AH CITY STAFF IS CURRENTLY WRAPPING UP THE INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE WATER SERVICES AND BEGINNING THE RESTORATION FOR THE SYCAMORE STREET WATERLINE REPLACEMENT PROJECT OUT OF THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION PROGRESS MEETING ON WEDNESDAY AND JUST AS A REMINDER TO CITY COUNCIL, WE DO HAVE A TOUR PRIOR TO NEXT WEEK'S WORK SESSION AT FIVE O'CLOCK. SCOTT SHEPHERD WILL BE ON HAND TO WALKING AROUND AND REALLY GIVE YOU THE DETAILS OF WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE. UM AS WELL. AN UPDATE FOR THE UPTOWN THE STREETLIGHTS A MAJORITY OF THE ONES IN THE SCOPE, THEY MIGHT HAVE MISSED A COUPLE. HAVE BEEN PAINTED, SO WE'LL WORK ON GETTING THE REMAINDER OF THOSE COMPLETED WHEN THEY COME BACK TO DO THE MAST ARMS TRYING TO GET A DEFINITIVE SCHEDULE FROM THEM. BUT THE MAST ARMS WILL BEING MUCH MORE RIGOROUS PROCESS TO

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SO THERE IT'S IN THE WORKS. IT'S IN THE SCOPE. IT JUST MAY NOT BE CLEARED BY THAT MEMORIAL DAY DAY THAT WE HAD A COUPLE OTHER, UM PEOPLE ASK ME ABOUT THE STRING LIGHTS UP TOWN. OKAY IS THERE A PLAN TO PUT THOSE BACK OR BELIEVE SO THERE WAS A PLAN AND DONALD? YOU'RE ON IF I WANTED TO JUST SPEAK ON IT. THERE'S A LOT MORE INVOLVED IN THAT I'VE BEEN HAVING MEETINGS WITH, UM CITY STAFF ABOUT UPDATING OUR CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS IN THE UPTOWN NOW WHETHER OR NOT WE BUY CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS ARE WE CONTRACTED OUT, BUT THEN PUTTING A BUDGET TOGETHER, UPDATING THE LIGHTING IN THE UPTOWN WITH JEREMY BECAUSE THE LIGHTS ARE ON 24 7. BUT THEN HAVING THE WHITES ONLY COME UP DURING CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR. SO DURING LIKE, YOU KNOW, I THERE WAS CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR. IT WAS AMANDA. KAREN ELLEN MYSELF. BRAD BRAD IS IN THAT MEETING. WE HAVEN'T MET IN A WHILE, BUT, UM , THAT'S SO THEY WILL COME BACK UP AFTER MY HEAD THE DAY I'M NOT FOR SURE. BUT THEY ARE GOING TO COME BACK EVENTUALLY. THEY'RE JUST GOING TO NOT GOING TO BE UP 24 7. AND UH, ANNA'S IN THOSE MEETINGS TO YOUR NOT GOING TO BE ON 24 7. WELL, NO, I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN DOWN FOR A WHILE. THEY'RE JUST NOT GOING TO BE STRONG ON EVERY POLL 365 DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR, SO THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO COME DOWN. ER YOU KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE LOVE THOSE. YEAH YEAH. UPTOWN WALKS. YEAH BEAUTIFUL. YEAH WHICH DURING THE BIZ, I THINK DURING THE SUMMER SEASONS, THEY WILL BE I'M SORRY. I DON'T HAVE DATES WE VOTE TO TAKE HIM DOWN. WELL I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO VOTE TO TAKE HIM DOWN. SO WHO DECIDED TO TAKE HIM DOWN? I THINK IT WAS A GROUP EFFORT BETWEEN EVERYBODY THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THOSE MEETINGS. REALLY? YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. I THINK WE HAD TO PUT THEM UP. YEAH WE HAD TO PAY TO PUT THEM UP. SO WHY CENTENNIAL? AND WE AND WE DECIDED AT THAT TIME TO LEAVE THEM UP. IT WAS A COUNCIL DECISION TO LEAVE THEM UP. I DON'T KNOW WHY COUNCIL WOULDN'T BE INCLUDED IN THIS DECISION. WEEK WE CAN GET THEM BACK UP. WE WERE JUST TOLD, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE ALREADY TOLD WE WERE TOLD TO TAKE HIM DOWN. BY WHO? WELL IT CAME OUT OF THE COMMITTEE THAT WAS MEETING BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO INITIATED THAT. I WASN'T A PART OF THAT COMMITTEE. SO WAS INITIATED BECAUSE OF ME BECAUSE YOU ARE ONE OF SEVEN. I KNOW THAT, BUT WE JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT LIGHTS TO COME DOWN DOESN'T MEAN THEY COME DOWN. THEIR LIGHTS, AND THERE'S GONNA BE PEOPLE LIKE THEM. FURTHER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR JEREMY, SINCE WE'LL BE TALKING A LOT ABOUT STORMWATER. TONIGHT I WAS WONDERING, UM, YESTERDAY I DROVE DOWN TO DINA POINT. DECIDE TO FIND THE BISHOP DITCH WHICH WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON, AND I COULDN'T FIND IT THAT THERE IS NO SIGN THAT SAYS HE USED TO BISHOP DITCH, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO MAYBE ENLIGHTEN ME A LITTLE BIT. THERE IS GOING TO ALSO IN THE BUDGET, A STUDY IS TO STUDY STARTED YET. AND IT WAS ALSO MENTIONED THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE WHATEVER IT WAS COMPLETED IN 2022. BUT WHAT'S THE STATUS OF

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AND IF YOU CAN TELL THAT THE PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY THEY HAVE A HUGE BACKS COVERS AND THEN GOING ACROSS THAT FARM FIELD, I THINK IT'S LIKE A 24 INCH PIPE. SO BUT THAT'S REALLY THE PLACE WHERE IT'S CONSTRICTING. AND IF IT RAINS, YOU CAN GO TO THE AIRPORT FARM FIELD AND SEE WHERE THE WATER IS PRETTY MUCH ACTS LIKE A DETENTION POND AT THAT POINT, BUT IT EVENTUALLY OKAY, WIFE, BUT YEAH. WE CAN ONLY GET SO MUCH THROUGH THAT THROUGH THAT STRONG, SO TO SPEAK. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO FORWARD TO STUDY OR IS IT TOO LONG THAT I COULD MAYBE COME FOR HER POWER AND LOOK AT IT? IDEAL BETTER TALKING TALKING IT THROUGH. SO IF YOU WANT TO LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE AVAILABLE, OK, MORE THAN OK, THANKS SO MUCH APPRECIATE IT REGULAR GREAT. I CAN'T IMAGINE.

YES YEAH. YEAH BECAUSE ALL WATER GOES SOUTH. YES. THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I JUST HAD TO FIRST QUARTER. FIRST STATEMENT IS YOU KNOW THE LIGHT POLES IN THE UPTOWN? DO IT REALLY NICE? THEY WERE OUT THERE SUNDAY MORNING. EASTER SUNDAY AT LIKE 11 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING 10 30 PAINTING, AND THEY WERE OUT THERE SO THE POLLS LOOKED REALLY, REALLY GOOD . IT'S GONNA BE EXCITED TO GET THE ARMS AND STUFF PAINTED LIKE YOU KNOW, IT'S SURPRISING MOST PEOPLE PROBABLY DON'T NOTICE THE POLLS RUSTING AND FADING, BUT YOU KNOW IT, IT ADDS IMPROVEMENTS. TO THE COMMUNITY WHEN YOU'RE WALKING AROUND THE OTHER. THE OTHER COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE IS THE WITH THE ALLEYWAY IMPROVEMENT. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE WITH WHEN I WAS CHAIRMAN OF HISTORICAL ASSETS COMMITTEE, AND WITH THE CITY'S HELP, WE WERE ABLE TO CLEAN AND WASH A LOT OF THE BRICKS THAT ARE NOW BEING USED FOR THE ALLEYWAY PROJECT. AND WE WERE ABLE TO MYSELF AND ABBY ANDERSON AND ROBERT ANDERSON WAS ACTUALLY ABLE TO PARTNER WITH HONDA AND THEY DO COMMUNITY SERVICE DAYS AND WE WERE ABLE TO CLEAN AND WASH A LOT OF THOSE BRICKS. THEY SET OUT LIKE TWO BIG GROUPS AND WERE ABLE TO GET A LOT OF IT DONE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NECESSARY OR NEEDED, BUT IT MIGHT BE A COOL OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO PARTNER WITH HONDA AND SAY , LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY ACTION DAY DID. THIS IS THE BRAKES WE WERE USED.

THIS IS HOW MUCH MONEY WAS ABLE TO SAY, BECAUSE WE RE USE THOSE BRICKS. JUST SOMETHING ON THOSE LINES WERE PLANNING ON HOLDING A BRIEF EVENT. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PROJECT. WHEN WE OFFICIALLY OPEN IT, INVITING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THE BUSINESS OWNERS FROM BEHIND THERE, AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NOT ONLY THE COST OF THE PROJECT MATERIALS USED AND KIND OF THE EVOLUTION AND THEN PLANNING THE SEED. THE COUNCIL MAY LIKELY ALSO SEE ALLIE IMPROVEMENTS

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[REPORT OF CLERK OF COUNCIL]

[PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT]

THE THIRD ITEM WAS TO HEAR AN APPLICATION FOR PRELIMINARY PLATFORM 119.87 ACRE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT SKY, BROOKE, SO THE SAME DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED A PARCEL NUMBER 2900180E ROUTE FOUR. THIS WAS TABLED DUE TO THE DENIAL OF THE DENSITY BONUS SO THEY WILL BE COMING BACK NEXT MONTH. WITH REVISIONS FOR THAT PRELIMINARY PLATT THE FOURTH ITEM WAS TO HEAR AN APPLICATION FOR REZONING AT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 14373 WEAVER ROAD, AND THIS WOULD GO FROM AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL . THIS WAS APPROVED. FIVE YES.

ZERO. NO. AND THE LAST ITEM WAS TO HEAR A ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 1131.12 WITCHES.

DEMOLITION OF STRUCTURES. THIS WAS APPROVED WITH AMENDMENTS. FIVE. YES, YOU KNOW. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? BITE DOWN ONLY SKY. MHM. DUMPS OUT ON THE ROUGH FLOOR, RIGHT? BREAKFAST. YEAH, CORRECT. THERE WAS THAT THEIR PLAN IS SHOWING TWO ACCESS POINTS ON ROUTE FOUR.

NO ACCESS POINTS ONTO PHILIP HERE. YES IT HAS BEEN A DISCUSSION IN PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT THE ACCESS POINTS FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT. YOU'RE WELCOME. YES. YOU MENTIONED ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT IT WAS, UM, THREE YEARS AND TO NO ONE ABSTENTION. WHICH ONE? WHICH ONE OF THAT WAS THAT? IS THAT THE ONE THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US TONIGHT? THAT ONE WAS FOR SKY BROOKS, THE ON THE ALBUMS PROPERTY. THAT WAS FOR A DENSITY BONUS, WHICH WAS THREE. YES AND TWO. NO SO THAT WAS THAT'S THAT'S CONSIDERED DENIAL BY THE BOARD. UM THE ITEM THAT WAS ONE RECUSED. THAT WAS FOR THE OAKS, WHICH WAS FOR YES. ZERO NO AND ONE RECUSED, WHICH WAS APPROVED IN THAT ONE WILL BE ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY

[DESIGN REVIEW BOARD REPORT]

UM ONE MEMBER HAD ARRIVED LATE, AND ONE MEMBER WAS ABSENT. THE OTHER TWO ITEMS. THE NEXT ONE WAS AT 8 TO 9 WEST FIFTH STREET IN THE VILLAGE RESIDENTIAL ALSO FOR EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS

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WE ALSO HAD AN APPLICATION OF CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR EXTERIOR BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS LOCATED AT 10321. OH, FIVE SOUTH MAIN AND THE BUILDING BEHIND IT, WHICH IS 1 13, WEST FIFTH IN THE UPTOWN COMMERCIAL. THIS WAS APPROVED FOR YES. TWO. NO. THE FOURTH ITEM WAS THEIR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE HISTORICAL REVIEW DISTRICT FOR EXTERIOR BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS LOCATED AT 1 18 WEST SIXTH STREET. IN THE UPTOWN COMMERCIAL APPROVED SIX YES. ZERO NO, AND THE LAST ITEM WAS AN EXTERIOR PLAN. LANDSCAPE PLAN. THIS WAS AN APPLICATION FOR A PROPOSED NEW HOTEL, PARKING AND ASSOCIATED LANDSCAPE AT 1001, LYDIA DRIVE IN THE REGIONAL MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT APPROVED SIX. YES. ZERO. NO. AND THOSE WERE OUR ITEMS FOR DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I WAS BUSY MEETINGS MHM MONTH FOR BOTH BOARDS. YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I JUST, YOU KNOW, I LOOK, I LOOK THROUGH THESE AND I KNOW THAT THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS AND MY COMPREHENSION OF YOU KNOW WHEN I WAS SPEAKING TO YOU NOT TO YOU BUT YOUR ASSISTANT NICOLE ON THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEETINGS.

THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION ON MY END. YOU KNOW? UM I KNOW THAT COUNCIL, YOU KNOW? I KNOW THAT SOME OF US HAS STATED THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE LOOK AT THE HOMEOWNER GRANT FOR NEXT YEAR AND HOW TO CHANGE IT. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THE FIRST ONE IS ON EAST FOURTH STREET. THERE WAS A FENCE REPLACE. AND YOU KNOW NOT TO SAY THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS DONE THIS, BUT WE APPROVED VINCE'S IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, AND THEN WE ACKNOWLEDGE, DO NOT INSPECT FENCES ONCE THEY ARE PUT INTO PLACE. AND THEN ALSO THE MAINTAINING OF THAT FENCE. SO SOME FENCES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS BEEN PUT IN BASED ON PREVIOUS GETTING PERMITS. NOW THE FENCES ARE FALLING DOWN AND THE POLLS THE WOODEN POLES ARE ROTTED THE PANELS, YOU KNOW, LIKE ONE OF THE FENCES, THE PANELS WERE PUT IN, BUT THE TWO BY THE POLLS THEMSELVES WERE NOT EQUAL DISTANCE BETWEEN THE PANELS, SO THEY ACTUALLY NEED A TWO BY FOUR TO THE POST TO GET THE PAIN OUT OF THAT. AND MY LITTLE FRUSTRATION IS THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO BE SPENDING MONEY TO IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY. ON THESE FACADE, IMPROVEMENT GRANTS OR THE HOMEOWNER'S GRANTS. THEN WE SHOULD BE APPROVING MATERIALS THAT WILL BE LONGER LASTING THAN A WOODEN FENCE. AND I KNOW THAT THESE ARE ALL DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IN THE FUTURE. BUT UM, THAT WAS JUST JUST I SAW SOME OF THOSE AND I THINK GIVING OUT THE MONEY IS A GOOD IDEA TO HELP. REINVESTMENT IN SOME OF THESE AREAS, BUT IT JUST NEEDS DEEPER FAULT. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. THANK YOU, ASHLEY. WELCOME NEXT UP. WE HAVE HEARING A CITIZENS FOR ANY CITIZEN WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ON AN ITEM THAT'S NOT PART OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA. OKAY? NO CITIZEN COMMENTS WILL MOVE ON TO RESOLUTIONS. RESOLUTION A SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING TO SUPPORT AN APPLICATION FOR OHIO

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ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS NOTHING FURTHER. COUNCIL. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. ROLL CALL, MR BERGER? YES MR REEMS? YES MR ROUSH? YES, MR BURBEY CARPENTER. MR. SEYMOUR, MRS GROAT. SEVEN. YES.

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YEAH, SO IT'S NOT A NEW THING. AND OBVIOUSLY, AT THAT TIME THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THE MAINS INTO AN URN. BUT GOING BACK TO THE EGYPTIANS, UM UM, THEY USED EARNS IN THOSE DAYS, BUT THEY WERE ALWAYS USED FOR FUNERALS ACTUALLY INTERNMENT RATHER THAN BEING EXPOSED, SO, UM, I'M NOT REALLY WE CAN WORK TOGETHER, TOO. CHANGE THAT WORDING. OKAY, BRING IT TO THE SIX, BRINGING TO THE CEMETERY BOARD. OKAY IF YOU DON'T MIND, MAYBE THINKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE AGAIN FUNERAL INTERNMENT AND THEN ALSO THINKING ABOUT ME, COMMISSIONER EARNS. AGAIN IT'S A FINE LINE, AND WE HAVE ONE MORE MONTH TO KIND OF HASH THAT OUT. COULD YOU SINA, CAN YOU SEND THAT TO MACKENZIE? AND THEN WHEN WE MEET AGAIN FOR THE CEMETERY BOARD, WE'LL JUST PUT THAT ON. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT I HAVE TO BRING? BRING TO THE BOARD FOR THAT, OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN JUST DO? AND HOUSE WE COULD PROBABLY DO THAT. SO I MEAN, OKAY, WELL, WE CAN MAKE THE MOTION TO CHANGE . CHANGE IT RIGHT NOW. IF YOU WANT TO AGAIN, I WOULD. I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE IF YOU'RE BOTH MEMBERS ARE IN THE LOBE, AS WE'VE LEARNED EARLIER TODAY THAT GET THE GET THE APPROVAL FIRST, AND THEN BRING IT BACK AGAIN TO COUNCIL. THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION . WELL, YOU YOU EMAIL MACKENZIE , AND WE'LL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT TO THE CEMETERY BOARD. OKAY? ALREADY THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH NOW 111 LAST THING THERE WAS THE LAST TIME THE STRATEGIC PLAN WAS DONE WAS IN 2000 AND 10 FOR THE CEMETERY. THERE IS NOT ONE ITEM THAT I'M NOT DEEPLY PASSIONATE ABOUT AND UM, THE CEMETERY IS WHAT ONE OF THOSE THINGS SO EVENTUALLY WE WILL BE UPDATING OUR STRATEGIC PLAN ON THE CEMETERY, SO SOME OF THE IDEAS HAS BEEN THROWN AROUND WITH THE CEMETERY IS CREATING AN ARBORETUM. YOU KNOW, PUTTING IT ON THE NATIONAL REGISTRY OF HISTORICAL PLACES. FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S OM SCOTT'S IS, UM, BURIAL OUT THERE WITH HIS FAMILY . YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE AN AVERAGE RESIDENT, YOU PROBABLY WOULD WALK RIGHT PAST IT. THERE'S NOTHING THAT REALLY CELEBRATES. MAYBE PARTNERING WITH SCOTT'S DOING SOMETHING OUT THERE, MAYBE REBUILDING THE PUTTING THE FENCE BACK AROUND THE CEMETERY AGAIN.

UM YOU KNOW DOING, YOU KNOW, HAVING IT MORE OF A PARK SYSTEM AND IT WOULD BE GREAT. NOW THIS IS ALL LONG TERM IF WE AS A COUNCIL APPROVED THESE THINGS, BUT IT'S HUGE. IT PAINTS WHAT WE WANT. WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD DO LIKE AN ONLINE DATABASE WITH THE CEMETERY SO THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT MOST RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, SEPARATE PROJECT, RIGHT? YES IT

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ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS. NEXT THREE ITEMS WERE BEFORE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND THE NEXT THREE AGENDA ITEMS. SO AT THE LAST FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING, AND BRAD'S GOING TO KIND OF JUST LET YOU KNOW WHAT THIS REQUEST WAS ALL ABOUT. SO LAST YEAR, WE ESTABLISHED THE AGENCY FUND FOR THE UPPER SO TO RESCUE THE TASK FORCE. THIS IS A GROUP OF FIVE GOVERNMENTS AND LOCAL AREA THAT WORK TOGETHER TO NOT ONLY ASSIST IN RESCUES THAT REQUIRE THEIR SERVICE BUT ALSO TO TRAIN AND GET EQUIPMENT. SO SOMETIME LAST YEAR, THIS GROUP GOT TOGETHER AND DECIDED THAT YOU WANT TO FORMALIZE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH EACH OTHER IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH THEY PAY TO THE ORGANIZATION. AND SO EARLIER THIS YEAR, BUT OBVIOUSLY WELL AFTER WHEN WE APPROVED THE CITY BUDGET, THEY'VE APPROVED THEIR BUDGET SO EACH ORGANIZATIONS CONTRIBUTING $5000, AND THEY HAVE $16,000 AND PLANNED EXPENSES. MUCH LIKE THE COG. MORE. WE HOLD THOSE FUNDS. THE COG APPROVES THE BUDGET. THEN WE INSERT THOSE AMOUNTS INTO OUR SYSTEM SO THEN, WHEN PAYMENTS ARE REQUESTED TO BE MADE OR RECEIPTS ON BEHALF OF THE CALLED WE MAKE THOSE PAYMENTS AGAINST THAT BUDGET, SO BASICALLY YOU KIND OF. MHM APPROVED THEIR BUDGET IN A WAY, BUT NOT REALLY SO. THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF AN AGENCY FUND. THE ORGANIZATION APPROVES THEIR BUDGET, BUT YOU HAVE TO APPROVE IT AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, SO OBVIOUSLY IT CAN FLOW THE MONEY APPROPRIATELY. SO THIS ISN'T A CHECK OR BALANCE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THIS IS LITERALLY US ACTUALLY ACTING AS THEIR AGENCY AND PUTTING THEIR BUDGET INTO OUR SYSTEM AS THIS ORGANIZATION APPROVED. OKAY AND WE DID. WE DID GO THROUGH THAT AT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, THE FAITH AGENCIES IN QUESTION IS TO MARRIAGE BILL FAY DIVISION. WEST LICKING BY THE DISTRICT.

WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP. NO WAIT NO . WHICH TOWNSHIP INJECTION TOWNSHIP, AND EACH OF THOSE IS COMMITTED TO PUT IN $5000. SO THAT'S WHY IN YOUR LEGISLATION YOU SEE ONLINE ITEMS, STARTING WITH 98 THAT THE WATER RESCUE CAN TO BE YUSHIN IS 25,000. BUT THAT IS COLLECTIVELY 5000. OF EACH OF THE AGENCIES AND THEN, UM, AS BREAD SAID THEY CAN BE DISCRETIONARY IN THEIR NEEDS, BUT LIKE A BETTER TERM, AND IF THEY DECIDED THAT DEPLOYMENT EXPENSES THEY NEED TO RESERVE 10,000. AND CAPITAL OUTLAY THEY NEED TO RESERVE 6000. UM WHO WHO WHO HAVE YEARS OF FINANCE COMMITTEE TO ARGUE, BECAUSE THE IDEA EXPERTS WERE NOT AND AS LONG AS THEY DON'T EXCEED 25,000 . BASICALLY THEY HAVE THE LIBERTY TO SPEND THE MONEY AT WHATEVER THEY FEEL. BEST SERVICE, NOT ONLY MARYSVILLE COMMUNITY, BUT THE FIVE COMMUNITIES TOGETHER. AS WELL AS GOING ON DEPLOYMENT. YEAH SO WE WERE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH IT. AND UM ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY HAVE DONE, UM SEVERAL TIMES NOW THAT THEY HAVE GONE OUT. AND SOMETIMES, DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IS AVAILABLE. WE DO GET REFUNDS FROM THE PILLOW GOVERNMENT. UM SO I THINK I WOULD. I WAS TOTALLY THAT COMMENDED TO LOOK AT IT AND THE FINANCE COMMITTEE WAS IN FAVOR OF IT. THANK YOU ANY OTHER COUNCIL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY THIS WILL BE BACK

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SO WITH THAT WE DO THIS FOR WATER PROJECTS ALL THE TIME. EVENTUALLY WE WERE GOING TO BE YOU KNOW, WITHIN FIVE YEARS IT WAS GOING TO BE PAVED EITHER WAY. REGARDLESS OF THIS PROJECT OR NOT, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE ON THE PAVING LIST. WE THOUGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE THIS. IT'S CLEARLY BEEN EXASPERATED BY OUR PROJECT, SO LET'S CONTINUE ON WITH THAT. AH BIG PICTURE IN REGARDS TO THE I GUESS THE REASONING BEHIND THE PROJECT AS YOU CAN SEE HERE AT PEPPER BUSH, WE HAVE A 27 INCH HAD A 27 INCH CULVERT NOW WE HAVE I BELIEVE IN EIGHT BY 12 BOX CULVERT, SO WE'RE LETTING THE WATER CONTINUE ON DOWN THIS DITCH IN AN EFFICIENT MANNER BEFORE THE 27 WAS TOO SMALL. THE DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH IT RAINED . IT WOULD THEN FLOOD DOWN HERE, GET TO THE LOW POINT HERE, AND I WANT TO GO THIS WAY RIGHT TO THE GENTLEMAN'S HOUSE THAT WAS HAVING ISSUES. SO WHAT WE DID WAS HEY, LET'S MAKE THIS BOX CALLED FOR BIGGER THAT MAKE SURE ALL OF THIS WATER GETS OUT AFTER LOOKING AT THE STUDY. WE GOT CONCERNED WITH SMALLER PIPES BEING IN THE GROUND AND WHAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD THOUGHT SO RATHER THAN FIX IT, AND THEN FIND OUT OH, A YEAR OR TWO LATER. HEY, WE DIDN'T COMPLETELY FIX IT. WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BEST TO GO AHEAD AND INTERCEPT THIS LINE. CONSTRUCT THIS OVER TO OUR SOUTHERN ROAD PUMP STATION IN A CENTRAL GIVEN TO OUTLETS, SO UM , YOU CAN SEE HERE 27 INCH. THIS DOES GET A LITTLE BIT MORE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLOW. BUT FOR SOME REASON, THIS IS LIKE A I THINK I LOOKED IT UP AND EIGHT BY 12 BOX CULVERT, SO IT'S SOMETHING HUGE, SO YOU CAN TELL IF A MAJORITY OF THE FLOW IS WAS GOING THROUGH A 27. TYPICALLY UH , YOU KNOW THAT THAT THIS BOX CULVERT IF IT WAS SIZE CORRECTLY , YOU KNOW, UH, SHOULD HAVE BEEN WHERE WE HAD IT NOW, SO MORE THAN LIKELY AN OVERSIGHT AT THE TIME WHEN THE CITY REVIEWED AND APPROVED THE APPROVED THE PLAN, SO THAT'S REALLY IT. IN A NUTSHELL. WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANY ISSUES SINCE WE HAD A BIG ENOUGH RAIN A MONTH AGO AS WE MENTIONED

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BECAUSE WE DO THE WHOLE CITY. SO THERE IS THERE IS NO DOUBT IN UNDER FINANCE COMMITTEE TO GO AHEAD TO MOVE FORWARD. AND SO TECHNICALLY, I AGREE WITH YOU. WE COULD USE 50 OUT OF THE PAVING HIGH AND HOWEVER, UM, SINCE THIS WAS A DIRECT RESULT, FROM STORMWATER. THE DID AGREE WITH MINISTRATIONS TO USE THE EXTRA 50,000 OUT OF STONE WATER. AND WE HAD LENGTHY DISCUSSION WITH REGARD TO YOUR POINT. MY CONCERN IS JUST THE STORM WATER FUND. DOES NOT HAVE A LOT IN IT.

UM AND WE KILL. SPENT A PRETTY BIG PORTION OF IT, BUT THE RESOLVE AND YOUR POINT WAS WAS ONE THAT WE HAD LENGTHY DISCUSSION ON. BUT THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE NEED FOR THE PAVING IS A RESULT. THE STORM WATER WORK SO OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE PIECEMEAL AND BE A CRAPPY NEW STREET. NO I UNDER I UNDERSTAND PREVENTS US FROM HAVING TO GO BACK LATER AS A STREET PROGRAM.

SO TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE, USING STORM WIRE WATER. BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF IT OF THE REPAIRS WAS DRIVEN BY STORM WATER REPAIR. IT SEEMED APPROPRIATE. THAT'S WHY WE UNANIMOUSLY UNANIMOUSLY SPONSORED. AND AGAIN . WE'RE DEALING WITH TWO SEPARATE PARTS, BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO YOU DEAL WITH THE POET VALUE ACTUALLY DEAL WITH A LITTLE BIT ON SOUTH HEART, WHICH IS AT THE INTERSECTION. THEN YOU GO 36. MHM GOD, NO, THAT'S INTERESTING . I'M SORRY. IT'S PROBABLY MORE CLOSER TO 100 YARDS. YOU KNOW WHERE THE ROAD IS CURRENTLY TALKING UP. THEN THE ROAD WOULD BE BY NOW 10 15 YEARS OLD, BUT THEN WHEN HE TOLD YOU TAKE A LEFT HAND TURN INTO THE CALL THE SEC THAT IS ALSO A PORTION OF THE STONE WATER, SO THERE IS A CONNECTION THERE BETWEEN THE CALL THE SEC AS WELL AS THE BEGINNING POINT ON SOUTH HEART. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING RIGHT? SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHEN IT'S IN REGARDS TO THE FUND BALANCE, OBVIOUSLY BOTH THE SAME ANNOTATION AND STORMWATER FUNDS TENDER. RUN A LITTLE CLOSER TO MINIMUM FUND BALANCE, AS OPPOSED TO WATER AND SEWER. AND SO THOSE FUNDS TAKER GET SPECIAL CONSIDERATION ON MY PART WHEN I

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BUT THE POINT IS WHEN I DO THOSE CHARGEBACKS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, I LOOK AT THE FUND BALANCE AND GO. CAN THE FUND REALLY HANDLE THIS CHARGEBACK? AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I DON'T EVEN CONSIDER IT A PAYABLE BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. I FIGURE THE FUND BALANCE ISN'T AVAILABLE AS I DEEM IT. SO, UM YOU KNOW, THAT'S OKAY. WELL THE WHOLE POINT OF THE M PRIZE FUNDS IS THE SERVICE THE PUBLIC UTILITY NEEDS. I WOULD NOT ANTICIPATE TAKING ANY MORE GENERAL FUND CHARGE BACK IN 2022 FROM THE STORM WATER FUND IN 2022. THEY'RE FRANKLY, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE NOT ONLY OBVIOUSLY ONGOING BUT FINISHING UP AND PLAN FOR THE FUTURE, AND OBVIOUSLY WE'LL REEVALUATE MOVING IN THE 2023. BYE. I THINK IT'D BE BEST IF WE JUST GO AHEAD AND SUSPEND THAT CHARGEBACK AND SO IN A WAY. THAT WOULD BE A GENERAL FUND SUPPLEMENTING THIS PROJECT OR ANY OTHER PROJECT IF YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT THAT WAY. FOR THIS YEAR, AT LEAST FROM STORMWATER IS THE PROJECT HANK MENTIONED. THAT'S A LEAST BUDGET WISE. THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING ESTIMATES ARE SHOWING AT FIVE RECALLS AROUND $800,000, BUT WE'LL SEE WHERE THE BIDS COME IN. MY GUT SAYS THAT'S A LITTLE HIGH. FOR THAT PROJECT BASED ON THE SCOPE THERE, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. WITH WITH WHERE CONTRACTOR BIDS COME IN ON SOME OF THAT STUFF, BUT I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WAS HARD, BUT WE DO HAVE A AN ESTIMATE FROM OUR CONSULTANT THAT SAYS THAT'S THE NUMBER AND I BELIEVE AS WELL WITH REGARDS TO THE STORM WATER FUND THAT IS A TABLED ITEM ON THE UTILITY, RIGHT WORKING GROUPS, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE'D BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO ANALYZE. AND YOU KNOW, PROBABLY AT OUR NEXT MEETING. WE WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT BETTER HANDLE ON THINGS. OKAY? I DID HAVE ONE OTHER, ADM . JEREMY EARLIER. YOU MEANT YOU HAD A SLIGHT THAT SHOWED A 20 YEAR OR SOMETHING. YEAH YEAH, WE APPROVED THESE PLANS IN 2000 AND ONE UH, AND THEREFORE, UH, IMAGINE WE ACCEPTED HIM SOMEWHERE RIGHT AROUND THAT TIME, SO THIS HAS BEEN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. FOR THAT TIME HEARD OVER 20 YEARS BECAUSE THERE WAS REALLY AND I KNOW I HATE TO GO OFF TOPIC HERE, BUT I STILL THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT POORLY. ANY TYPE OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE DO HAVE IS IT'S STANDARD FOR US TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF A GRAVITY WHEN, AFTER ONE YEAR YEAH. WHEN WE KNOW THAT UTILITIES ARE WORKING WELL, THOSE IT ALSO AT THAT TIME , I MEAN THAT WE TAKE OWNERSHIP OF STORM WATER AT THE SAME TIME IS THAT STANDARD? OH FOR SURE. THAT'S WHY I GUESS THAT HEARING REVIEW THAT THAT KYLE AND HIS TEAM DO IS SO IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, LIKE, MAKE SURE WE'RE CHECKING ALL THE NUMBERS AND NOT JUST ASSUMING WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT THE DEVELOPERS CONSULTANT GIVES US IS ACCURATE. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE WHOLE PART OF THE PLAN REVIEW PROCESSES THAT WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING BEFORE IT GOES IN AND THEN WHAT'S HAPPENING AFTER IT GOES IN. SO IN THIS CASE, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE MAYBE PERHAPS WE MISSED THE BALL AT THAT TIME, BUT AGAIN, I WASN'T HERE, SO I CAN'T COMMENT. I JUST KNOW THAT, UH, WHATEVER IS OUT THERE IN GREEN OR WHATEVER WAS OUT THERE TWO YEARS AGO, WAS MUCH SMALLER THAN WHAT WE WOULD APPROVE NOWADAYS. MHM.

YEAH, BUT THE MAIN THE MAIN THING THAT I WAS HOPING THAT THE COMMITTEE WHEN YOU GET TOGETHER , YOU KNOW THAT IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY TO KEEP ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES. BECAUSE THIS THIS IS WHAT WHAT? WHAT WHAT STORMWATER. I WOULD CONSIDER THAT MORE OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE. THEN I SEE A SEWER LINE. THEN I SEE A WATER LINE. THEN AS HE IS THE ROAD BUCKLING THINGS OF THAT NATURE. IF IT'S COMPLETED. YOU WAIT A YEAR. YOU'RE LUCKY IT'S A YEAR AND THEN YOU GIVE IT TO THE CITY, AND THEN HE BECOMES THE CITY'S PROBLEM, AND THERE HAVE BEEN INCLUDING THIS 13 OR FOUR MAJOR, AND WE'RE TALKING COLLECTIVELY, POSSIBLY OVER $2.5 MILLION. THAT THE CITY HAS HAD TO SPEND ON MITIGATING SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS AND AGAIN FROM PREVIOUS ENGINEERS, PREVIOUS STUDIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD KEEP THE OWNERS? OR THE DEVELOPERS, UM, RESPONSIBLE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD. WHEN IT COMES TO ISSUES LIKE THIS, DO NOT SEE HOW THAT COULD WORK. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THE ENGINEERING REVIEW PROCESS. THERE'S NO WAY I WOULD SAY THIS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPER A. HE'S

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THAT'S NOT HOW THEY WORK. OKAY ALSO CONTEND ENVIRONMENTAL STORMWATER IS KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL, BUT SANITARY SEWER BREAKS. THAT'S ENVIRONMENTAL WATERLINE. ALL THOSE I GUESS UNDER YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL CLASSIFICATION. THAT WOULD BE THE CASE, BUT BUT WE CAN BE WILLING TO LISTEN, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THE CITY'S REVIEW AS WE GET IT, WHERE IT'S DEAD ON AT THE BEGINNING, AND TYPICALLY THAT ONE YEAR MAINTENANCE IS AND WHOOPS. WE SIZE THE PIPE WRONG. IT'S THE CONTRACTOR DIDN'T COMPACT AND THERE'S A LITTLE POTHOLE, NOT OH, WE PUT IN A PIPE TOO MUCH SMALLER THAT FALLS ON US ONCE WE SIGN OFF ON THOSE PLANTS. YEAH BUT NOW AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD ON, UM, UM, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO, AND I BELIEVE THAT MR ROCHE EVEN MENTIONED THAT THAT THE CULVERT OR THE WATER BEHIND THE HOMES OUT THERE? YEAH PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED THERE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, SAID IT WAS NEVER AS BAD.

AS IT IS NOW BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS BUILT UP THE ROAD CLOSE TO MILFORD AVENUE. THOSE DEVELOPMENTS SO AGAIN HE IS WHERE YOU HAVE ONE DEVELOPER THAT'S DOWNSTREAM, BLAMING ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OBSCENE AND SAYING THAT THEY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, EACH OF US IN THIS ROOM THAT LIVES IN THE CITY OF MAYSVILLE IS BEING $72 A YEAR THERE WERE IN $6 A MONTH IN STONE FEES. UM BUT FOR THIS, THIS KIND OF PROBLEM. AGAIN EVERY DEVELOPMENT UPSTREAM OF HERE THAT'S BEEN BUILT FOLLOWS OUR STANDARDS. WE'VE DOUBLE CHECKED THEIR CALIX. I GET AND AGAIN NOT TO KEEP POKING AT THIS DEVELOPMENT. THIS POND IS SIZE FOR 100 HOMES. IS PROBABLY SIZE FOR 10 HOMES. SO WE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WITH REGARDS TO THE POND AND THE STORAGE AGAIN, IT'S MORE OF STANDARDS CHANGE OR WHATEVER . BUT IN THE END EVERY DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU KNOW THE MILFORD CROSSINGS AND ALL THOSE YOU SHOULD SEE THEIR PONDS. THEY MET ALL OF OUR CALCULATIONS. WE CAN'T WE CAN'T FAULT THEM BECAUSE THIS ONE WASN'T MAYBE NOT DESIGNED IT. MAYBE HOW I WOULD DO IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.

ANY OTHER A COUNCIL COMMENTS. OKAY THIS WOULD BE BACK FOR A SECOND READING ON MAY 9TH.

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NOW WHAT WE WILL DO NOW KNOWING THIS AND KNOWING THE TIMEFRAME YOU WILL SEE IN A BUDGET PROBABLY AROUND FIVE YEARS FROM NOW THE CLEANING WILL BE IN THE BUDGET TO DO IT AGAIN IN THAT SAME HOPEFULLY, THAT SAME MONETARY RANGE, SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS AND WE NOW KNOW HOW LONG IT CAN POTENTIALLY LAST. FINISHED WITH HIRED. AS WE HIRE MORE POLICE OFFICERS THAT WILL LAST LESS TO, UM, ACTUALLY, THE WAY THAT WE LOOKED AT IT IS OUR COUPLE OVER. YEAH SO, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, WHEN THEY DO DO THE SHOOTING, THEY DO HAVE THE RUBBER TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T BOUNCE BACK AGAIN. UM AND THERE IS MOST LIKELY A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF LEAD IN THOSE BULLETS AS WELL. SO, UM UM , I WAS ACTUALLY SURPRISED ABOUT 11,000 MAKE MY GUESS WOULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER THAN WHAT IT IS SO AGAIN FINANCE COMMITTEE DID RECOMMEND THAT IT DOES GET DONE BECAUSE IT IS A CHANGE THAT USED VERY FREQUENTLY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS ON THIS?

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GETTING EVERYBODY IN LINE, SO I'M I'M GONNA SUGGEST THAT WE CAME OUT BEFORE WEEKS AND BRING IT BACK FOR A SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING. ON MAY 23RD. CASE YOU GUYS MEETING STILL NEED TO HASH OUT A FEW MORE THINGS. WE'VE GOT THAT TIME. OKAY? DO WE HAVE? ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THERE. WE WOULD NEED A MOTION TO TABLE THIS MAKE THE MOTION. IT'S A TABLE. TO MAY 23RD 23RD THANK YOU. ROLL CALL, MR REEMS? YES YES, BURBEY. YES, MR CARPENTER? YES MR SEYMOUR, THIS IS GROUP.

MR BERGER. YES? SEVEN. YES OKAY . THANK YOU. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR A SECOND READING ON MAY 23RD. PROBABLY WITH SOME AMENDMENTS. HMM OKAY, JUST WHAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE

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GIRL. HI GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US ATTORNEY ALICIA ZAMBELLI AND THE ATTORNEY FOR MH DEVELOPMENT LLC. UM I HAVE WITH ME THIS EVENING. MIKE MEDVEDKOV, DIRECTOR OF ACQUISITIONS IN JOHN BUCHANAN, OUR ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT. HE'S WITH CSO, SO I'M GOING TO TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO MIKE AND WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

AFTER. HE'S DONE WITH HIS PRESENTATION. LIKE MEDFORD CARVE AS ALICIA POINTED OUT OF 7 81.

BROOKS EDGE PLAZA. WESTERVILLE OHIO, 43081. ON BEHALF OF MH DEVELOPMENT, MR MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. UM IN FRONT OF US AS WE PULLED PUT THIS PRESENTATION THAT USE AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS OUTWEIGH LANDING, APTLY NAMED AFTER THE FIRST MARUM. DON'T I'M SURE YOU GUYS KNEW THAT, THOUGH. THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE. UM WELL, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US. WE'RE LOCALLY. UM LOCATED IN WESTERVILLE, OHIO. WE OWN WE'RE IN 22 MARKETS NATIONWIDE'S WERE NATURAL. ENTITY DONE. WE'VE GOT ABOUT A DOZEN PROJECTS IN VARIOUS STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT CENTRAL OHIO. UM SO I CAN ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS. ONCE WE GET THROUGH THIS REGARDING THAT. THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE LUTHERAN CHURCH. IT IS A SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING. THAT'S WHERE REQUESTING ITS COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN , AS ASHLEY POINTED OUT, SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH. SOUTH AND EAST. THE PLAN AS YOU'LL SEE ON OUR PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN THAT JOHN HAS PUT TOGETHER FOR US. IT'S 284 UNITS AND VARIOUS SIZES. LOTS YOU'LL SEE. THERE'S SOME 66 55. WIDE LOTS, WHICH IS AGAIN IN LINE WITH THE ZONING FOR SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL. AGAIN VARIETY OF LOT SIZES LESS OR DENSITY THAN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS MR BURR VIEW. ASKED ME IN THE HALLWAY THINK SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL IS 3 TO 6 AND WORTH 2.84? I DID THE MATH FOR YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. YES I WAS. I COULD REMEMBER OFF TOP OF MY HEAD SO AGAIN, LESSER DENSITY. CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING USE AND DESIGN STANDARDS. AS YOU SEE, UM THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION. I JUST CAME BACK FROM CHARLOTTE. SO I HAVE SOME UPDATED PHOTOS FROM SOME OF THE PROPERTIES WE HAVE. YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT WHAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE? AND UH, AGAIN EXCEED COMMON AREA REQUIREMENTS WITH MULTIPLE PARKS AND INSIDE AMENITY. AH AGAINST SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL. WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE KEY FEATURES WALKABLE TRAILS. UM, INTERCONNECTIVITY BETWEEN. THE SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE NORTH ON THE SIDE, AMENITY PARKS AND JUST ABILITY FOR THE KIDS AND THE FOLKS TO ENJOY THE GREEN SPACE AND OTHER AREAS AROUND THEM. SO. AGAIN OUR SITE IS COMPLIANT WITH SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. LOCAL PARKS PROVIDES RESIDENTS OPPORTUNITY TO WALK THE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY ON SITE. AND WE DID RECEIVE UNANIMOUS APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON APRIL FIVE. THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL YIELD PLAN AS YOU SEE IT. AGAIN WE'VE HAD SOME COMMENTS FROM FOLKS SOME NEIGHBORS PLANNING COMMISSION. WE'VE REACHED BACK OUT THEM.

MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THE WATER DETENTION AND A DRAINAGE IS A BIG ISSUE. NOT ONLY NECESSARY BUT ALL AROUND. I MEAN, JUST FROM HEARING YOU TALK ABOUT IT TONIGHT AND DURING PLANNING COMMISSION, AND WE CERTAINLY ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY ENGINEERS AND O A P A. AND JOHN IS VERY GOOD AT WHAT HE DOES. SO WE DO INTEND AND WE ARE GOING TO PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THAT. WE UNDERSTAND . IT'S A HOT TOPIC FOR EVERYBODY HERE, INCLUDING SULTAN NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH. UM SOMETHING WHAT WE DO, SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, AND I AGAIN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND ACTUALLY SAID I THOUGHT THIS WAS JUST GONNA BE

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THROUGHOUT THE DURATION. AGAIN QUESTIONS ARE GONNA COME UP. I'LL TELL YOU IN PERPETUITY.

THAT'S THE ANSWER. THERE'S NOT A BUSINESS MODEL THAT SAYS AND SO MANY YEARS WE SELL OR WE'RE GOING TO BUILD OUT THE 75% SELL. WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT. WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT. OR PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANIES. YOU CAN LISTEN TO SOME EARNINGS CALLS, AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT'S A MANTRA. WE KEEP OUR PROPERTIES WE MAKE WE MAINTAIN THEM, AND THAT'S HOW WE EXIST. SO I KIND OF DIGRESS OFF THE SLIDE, BUT FULLY DEVELOPER CONTROLLED HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT THAT MEANS FOR ZONING INSTANCES. IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH WITH FENCES YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE INFERIOR PRODUCTS BEING USED OR SOMEBODY DECIDES TO PUT A SHED. OR YOU HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT HAS A CAR PARK ON BLOCKS AND IT'S SITTING THERE, UH, LEAKING OIL. IT'S NOT A ZONING ISSUE. WE CAN HANDLE THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY. THROUGH NOT ALL R R H AWAY, BUT THROUGH THE LEASES. WE HAVE VERY STRICT REQUIREMENTS. WE DO BACKGROUND CHECKS. CREDIT CHECKS FOR RESIDENTS REQUIRED ANYBODY WITH ANY KIND OF OFFENSES. CRIMINAL HISTORY THAT VIOLENT OFFENDERS OR DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT. INTO WHICH CATEGORIES OF WHAT? BUT WE'RE VERY STRICT ABOUT WHO LIVES IN OUR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE AGAIN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S KIND OF SELF SERVING. IT'S THE SAME REASON WHY WE BUILD OUR HOMES. OF HIGHER QUALITY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE TO MAINTAIN THEM. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE RENTS ARE PAID ON TIME. AND WHAT WE DO IS WE PAY OUR TAXES. WE PAY. TWICE A YEAR AND ON TIME, SO ALL OF THESE HOMES AND BY THE WAY, WE'VE DONE SOME CALCULATIONS, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALWAYS COMES UP INEVITABLY AT SCHOOLS AND BUDGETS, SO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS DOWN THE ROAD. WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE SCHOOLS? WHAT DO WE DELIVERING IN TERMS OF TAXES.

YOU HAVE AN INCOME TAX. WE'RE GOING TO DERIVE THAT FROM MEETING INCOME. WE DON'T BENEFIT

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THE ONLY THING YOU'RE THAT THE FOLKS ARE RESIDENTS ARE PAYING THAT POINT. TIME IS GOING TO BE HOMEOWNERS, INSURANCE AND UTILITIES. AND UTILITIES IS ANOTHER THING. WE DON'T SWITCH THEM OUT OF OUR NAMES. WHEN YOU MOVE IN. THERE'S NOT A SLOWER THAN ALL THE UTILITY PROVIDERS.

WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR THAT HANDLES ALL THAT. SO WE ACTUALLY PAY THE BILLS AND THEN WE COLLECT FROM FROM OUR RESIDENTS AGAIN, SEAMLESS TRANSACTION FOR THAT.

AND THAT WATER THAT IS SPRINKLING DOES THAT GO BACK TO THE CORPORATION OR AGAIN? IS THAT GOING TO BE BILLED TO THE PERSON WHO IS CURRENTLY LEASING THAT HOME? THAT'S ALSO GREAT QUESTION, ACTUALLY SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT QUITE A BIT. IT IS NOT GO BACK TO THE PERSON.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A MEDIA WATER DEDUCT METER. THAT ACTION. IT ACTUALLY TAKES UP FOR THE FOR THE WATERING OF THE GRASS? YES. THAT'S A GREAT POINT. ORIGINALLY WE THOUGHT, HEY, CAN WE USE SOME DETENTION PONDS AND THE ROUTING BECAME SO COMPLICATED TO RUN MASTER LIFE FROM THE PONDS AND JUST THINKING SYSTEM THAT WE ACTUALLY DECIDED TO GO OFF OF MEAT OR WATER, BUT THAT THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. QUESTION UM, AND MAYBE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN ANSWER THIS FOR ME. BUT I'M WONDERING HOW WE GOT HERE TO THE LAND IS CURRENTLY HIS OWN FOR AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. AND WE'RE BEING ASKED TO RESIGN IT TO SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL DID YOU JUST SEE THIS LAND AND REALIZED THAT IT WASN'T ZONED PROPERLY AND STILL WANTED TO DEVELOP IT. OR LIKE WHY WHY ARE WE BEING ASKED TO CHANGE IT? I GUESS.

LIKE DO YOU SEE THIS LAND AND REALIZED IT WASN'T ZONED FOR DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE BEING ASKED. IS THAT WHY WE'RE IN THIS POSITION? CAN SOMEONE ANSWER THAT? I THINK. GO AHEAD, ASHLEIGH. YEAH SO SOMETIMES DEVELOPERS COME IN, AND THERE'S PARCELS OF LAND THAT THEY PARTICULARLY WANT TO DEVELOP ON AND IF IT DOESN'T ALIGN WITH THIRD DESIRED DEVELOPMENT. THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS, SO THERE'S ONE IN PARTICULAR WAS AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL IN ORDER TO GET THE LOT SIZES THEY NEEDED THAT HAS TO GO UNDER THE ZONING OF SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL UNDERSTAND AND ALSO THE FAMILY THAT DONATED THE LAND TO THE LUTHERAN CHURCH AND THE LUTHERAN CHURCH DECIDED THAT THIS WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD TIME TO SELL THE PROPERTY. UM THEY'RE GONNA USE SOME OF THOSE PROCEEDS TO AH , AT THE CHURCH, SO. THAT THE MAYAN DONOR DECIDED NOW WAS THE TIME TO GO AHEAD AND SO. OH GO AHEAD. YES, UM I DO HAVE CAN. I THINK THAT THE PRODUCT OF PARTY PLANK AND THINGS YOU KNOW, I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. UM UM, BUT I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT CHANGING THE ZONING. FROM TWO SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL. UM RIGHT NOW, ALL OF OUR LAND. IN THE CITY IS BEING REZONED FOR HIGH DENSITY LIVING. AND YOU KNOW BURGER ROAD IS. YOU KNOW WAS BUILT FOR HIGHER INCOME EARNERS WHO WANTED BIGGER LAND WHO WANTED MORE LAND AND SPACE AND YOU KNOW? I JUST HAVE CONCERNS WITH EVERY PIECE OF OUR LAND AND THEIR CITY LIMITS BEING USED FOR HIGH DENSITY LIVING. THIS ISN'T NEAR BURGER ROAD. I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST A ROAD. I KNOW. BUT I'M SAYING THE NEXT PIECE OF LOCAL AGRICULTURE RESIDENTIAL AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT I'M JUST NOT OKAY WITH CHANGING ALL OF OUR LAND TO FIT. HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS, BUT. TO GIVE YOU CREDIT. I THINK YOU'RE BUILDING TYPE, YOU KNOW, WITH HARDIE PLANK AND STUFF IS NICE. SO UM, BUT THAT'S YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS, SURE, NOT APPRECIATE THAT. THE HIGH DENSITY YOU KNOW PORTION OF THAT. I THINK SINGLE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL SRD CALLS FROM 3 TO 6 WERE 2.8. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE WOULD CALL IT MOSTLY CLUSTER HOUSING HIGHER DENSELY, BECAUSE WE PUT EVERYTHING ON A 52 OR 60 LOT FREEZER, EASE OF MAINTENANCE

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AND I'M NOT QUITE YOU KNOW, I'M NOT QUESTIONING THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT FARMLAND IS GOING TO BE EATEN UP BY HOMES. UM, IT'S JUST LIKE I SAY, EVERY PIECE OF OUR LAND IN THIS COMMUNITY IS BEING USED UP FOR HIGH DENSITY HOUSING, AND I UNDERSTAND TRENDS. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU KNOW. MARYSVILLE CAN'T PUT ALL OF OUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET FOR HIGH DENSITY HOUSING. AND THAT'S THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN. HOW MANY YOU YOU STATE THAT YOU HAVE LOTS THAT ARE MIXED. LIKE 55 LOTS TO LARGER LOTS. DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MANY OF THOSE LOTS WILL BE, UM, BIGGER. COMPARED. TO 93 LOTS FOR 66. FT. ALL RIGHT. WHERE DO WE JUST THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. 19 3 66 BY 1, 25 AND 191 OR 55 OR 1 25 SO AGAIN. THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WE SHOWED HERE. IS SHOWING THE LARGER LOTS TOWARDS THE BACK, AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY WE DESIGNED IT AGAIN, ALSO INCORPORATING A LOWER GROUNDS FOR THE DETENTION PLANS. IF YOU HAVE FEEDBACK AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE OPEN FORUM FOR DISCUSSING THINGS YOUR QUESTIONS, COMMENTS AND CONCERNS AND I WILL PROMISE YOU THIS THAT WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE TO THE NEEDS AND DESIRES AND WANTS OF THE COMMUNITY. AND THE GOVERNMENT IN PLACE. SO WE'RE HERE TO WORK WITH YOU. AND IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK, HEY, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE IN, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS, YOU PUT MORE 11 MORE THAN ONE SET OF EYES ON SOMETHING AND YOU MAY SAY, WHY DON'T YOU DO THIS OR HOW ABOUT A CONNECTION TO HEAR SOMETHING? YOU KNOW? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU NEED. WE'RE JUST THIS IS OUR CONJECTURE, BUT I THINK THIS IS A VERY WELL DESIGNED COMMUNITY AMENITIES TOWARDS THE FRONT, SO THAT'S ROAD AND AGAIN. THE DETENTION PONDS KIND OF LAYOUT BASED ON THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE GROUND. MR REEMS. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, JEREMY. WITH THE DETENTION PONDS WITH THREE OF THEM BEING THERE ARE THEY FAR ENOUGH SOUTH FROM THE HEART? THE AIRPORT GIVEN THE RECENT LETTER WAKE UP FROM THE AIRPORT. I RECALL MOST OF THIS AREA DRAINS DRAIN SOUTH . WE COORDINATE WITH THE AIRPORT. FORTUNATELY, THINK.

THEIR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT EVERYTHING IS IN THE FLIGHT PATH , BUT WE WOULD WE WOULD MAKE SURE TO WORK WITH THEM AND TO WORK WITH JOHN AND HIS TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY OBSTRUCTIONS OR INTRUSIONS ARE MITIGATED AS PART OF THIS, OKAY. THIS TIME AS A BIT OF A FOLLOW UP. SO ARE YOU SURE THAT THIS GOES INTO DERBY WATERSHED RATHER THAN MILLCREEK ? TO BE HONEST, UH, THAT'S

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THIS DOES NOT EXIST. SO IS ONLY ONE THING TO THINK ABOUT. AND THEN I ADDED 22 TO $2600. PER MAN. IT. IT NEEDS TO PROVE ITSELF. IF THIS IS A UNIQUE PROPOSAL, THEN THIS IS A TRIAL RUN FOR KEN MARYSVILLE. DO THIS. I REMEMBER. ONE DEVELOPMENT CAME IN WITH DEEP COMMITMENTS TO A CERTAIN STYLE OF HOME. UM AND SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD, THAT PRICE POINT SMOOTHED DOWN AND THERE WAS DIFFICULTY AT THAT JUNCTURE. UM THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO HAVE TO EARN ITS BONES . SO THIS IS WHAT I DO IS ACTUALLY WHAT MY JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS VIABLE, SO I DON'T NUMBERS COME OUT OF PRODUCT AND HOMES THAT WE OWN IN YOUR COMMUNITY. SO WHAT I DO IS I PULL DOWN A REPORT OF OUR LEGACY PORTFOLIO. AND THEN WE COMPARE THOSE ARE RENTAL COPS SO WE DON'T GO TO ZILLOW. WE DON'T GO TO COMPETITORS BASED ON OUR OWN PRODUCT. NOW YOU GOT TO REMEMBER THESE HOMES ARE 20 YEARS OLD OR STAND ALONE THEY WILL RECEIVE ON SITE MAINTENANCE. AND WE DON'T DO THAT MUCH OF A BUMP ON THAT WE MIGHT GIVE IT A 5% PREMIUM, BUT WE'RE VERY CONSERVATIVE IN THOSE VALUES, SO WE DON'T BACK A PROJECT INTO THE RANTS OR I DON'T I SHOULD SAY WE DON'T CREATE RENTS TO SUBORDINATE THE PROJECT. WE KNOW THE COSTS ARE GOING INTO IT. I LIVE IN THE PERFORMERS A DICTATE YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO GO INTO IT WITH THE STYLE OF HOMES ARE GOING TO BE THE SIZES. I AM THE QUANTITIES AND THE LOT SIDE IN ALL OF THESE THINGS. HOW MUCH WE CAN PAY FOR THE LAND AND AGAIN WORKING WITH LUTHERAN CHURCH. I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. I THINK MR ROUSE TOUCHED A BOTTLE. BRIEFLY, BUT I'VE ASKED UM WAYNE CELLS OF THE LUTHERAN CHURCH THERE OVER THERE IN MISSOURI. IF I COULD SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF, AND HE SAID, LOOK , I'LL GIVE YOU SOME TALKING POINTS, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO COME OUT, YOU KNOW, SAY EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. BUT THE MONEY IS GOING TO BE REINVESTED BACK IN THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE PORTION OF IT, IF NOT ALL OF IT, TOO. SO AGAIN, I DIGRESS. THE POINT IS, YES. THE PRODUCT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND MR AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. YES IT DOES NOT EXIST HERE . WE DO HAVE THESE PROJECTS IN CENTRAL OHIO AND VARIOUS STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS PROVEN, YOU KNOW, WE OWN I THINK OVER 100 OF THESE COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES PRESENTLY THERE IN THE SOUTHEAST , SO WE STARTED OUT OR REGIONAL HEADQUARTERS IN CHARLOTTE. SOME MAJORITY OF OUR SUBDIVISIONS ARE GONNA BE CHARLOTTE, ATLANTA.

ORLANDO NASHVILLE, RALEIGH AND AS FAR AS NORTH IN COLUMBUS AND INDIANAPOLIS IS EVEN IS EVEN NEWER. MARKET BUT BEING COLUMBUS AND AGAIN, I SAY COLUMBUS, COLUMBUS METRO MARYSVILLE. I MEAN, IT'S CENTRAL OHIO. AND I'M COMING UP WITH THESE NUMBERS BECAUSE YOU'RE THE RENTS THAT WE HAVE HERE, SUBORDINATE THAT, YOU KNOW I CAN'T RUN OUT THE LONDON WON'T WORK. I CAN'T GO OUT TO MARIAN DOESN'T WORK. BUT IT WORKS IN MARYSVILLE, AND THIS IS JUST KNOWING THE DEMOGRAPHICS KNOWING THE FUTURE OF MARYSVILLE AND ALSO BASING IT ON WHAT WE ALREADY OWN. HERE AND AGAIN.

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IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE QUALITY, YOU CAN'T GO VERTICAL. UM BUT THIS IS A HIGH PRICE POINT. YOU KNOW, FOR. NOT TO GET PERSONAL. AN EX TEACHER MARRIED TO AN EX COP. WE'VE TALKED. WE'VE TALKED A LONG TIME OR QUITE A BIT AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN COMMENTS THAT YOU KNOW, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY POTENTIAL TRANSITION POINTS FOR HIGH LEVEL EXECUTIVES THAT MAY WORK SOME OF THE CORPORATIONS THAT WE HAVE. THIS WOULD BE PROBABLY A PRIME AREA FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S COMING IN THAT NEEDS A STOPGAP BEFORE THEY BUILD THEIR HOME ELSEWHERE THAT WOULD SERVE THEIR PURPOSE FOR A 3 TO 5 YEAR PERIOD WHILE THEY GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS OR SOMETHING, I YOU KNOW, I TOTALLY TRUST THAT THESE FOLKS HAVE DONE THEIR MARKET STUDIES. THAT'S THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. THAT'S A GREAT POINT LAST DURING PLANNING MEETING, WE HEARD THAT THERE WAS SOME 50 FOLKS WORKING FOR HONDA LIVING IN A HOTEL, RIGHT? I MEAN, THESE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE RIGHT. AND YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, POLICE OFFICER AND A TEACHER. THAT'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE FOLKS THAT WORK IN THOSE SECTORS BECAUSE WITH COMBINED INCOME, I MEAN, NOT AT THOSE PRICES, YOU CASE IN POINT AND NOT TO DIGRESS , BUT LET'S SAY MEETING, YOU KNOW, STARTING HOUSE AND IN THE COMMUNITIES OF THE NORTH IS 400,000. WITH 5% INTEREST RATES THAT WERE OUT TODAY. UM EVEN YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY YOU WANT TO PUT 20% DOWN TO ELIMINATE THE PM I SO YOUR PRINCIPAL INTEREST TAXES AND INSURANCE WERE STILL LOWER THAN THAT. 90% OF THE TIME. SO THAT'S ANOTHER POINT OF THAT IS THE FACT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME UP WITH 20% DOWN TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, AND A LOT OF FOLKS THAT WE FOUND OUT WHEN THEY COME AND THEY LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITIES, AND THEY CHOOSE TO BUY OR BUILD. BY AND LARGE, THEY STAY IN THOSE COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THEY ALREADY COMFORTABLE . THE KIDS ARE IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE LOOK FOR. BY THE WAY WE LOOK FOR GREAT COMMUNITIES. THEY'RE SAFE, REPUTABLE WITH GREAT SCHOOLS AND MARYSVILLE FITS ALL THOSE BILLS. I JUST WANTED TO ONLY MAKE THE COMMENT, YOU KNOW, UM I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE AND MORE DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THESE, UM YOU KNOW GLOBALLY, THERE'S MORE AND MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I WAS ACTUALLY JUST TALKING TO COUNCILMAN BURBEY. JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO ABOUT HOW GERMANY IS BUILDING HUGE AMOUNTS OF HOUSES THAT ARE JUST WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. RIGHT RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, UM YOUNG PEOPLE, YOU KNOW YOU STUDENT LOAN DEBT AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S GOING ON WITH IT. PEOPLE JUST CAN'T AFFORD. THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY HOUSES AND OR THEY DON'T WANT TO BUY HOUSES. SO THIS IS A LOT OF THE FUTURE. UM MOVING FORWARD. THE ONLY ISSUE THAT I HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, FOR ME IS JUST YOU KNOW YOUR DEVELOPMENT IS A VERY NICE DEVELOPMENT. AND YOU'RE BUILDING MATERIALS ARE GOING TO LAST AND YOUR OFFENSES ARE GOING TO LAST, AND I LOOK AT THOSE KIND OF THINGS. AESTHETICS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME AS A COUNCIL MEMBER. UM IT'S JUST FOR ME, YOU KNOW? ALL OF OUR LAND IS BEING USED. FOR THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT, SO ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. THAT WAS A SITUATION WHERE I MEAN. VERY VERY SERIOUS INFLATION POINT WITH THE HOUSING CRISIS. I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WANT TO BUY A HOUSE, EVEN WITH ESCALATING THIS IS I MEAN, VERY, VERY TOPICAL CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE HAVE NO HOMES, INDUSTRIES ARE GOING UP. BUILDING MATERIALS ARE GOING UP SUPPLY DEMAND. EQUILIBRIUM IS OUT OF WHACK. SO YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MICRO RECESSION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE AN ECONOMIST TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. BY THE WAY, WHERE COMMUNITY INSULATOR AND THAT INSTANCE WE HAVE FORECLOSED ON OUR PROPERTIES. WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE BLIGHTED PROPERTIES. THERE'S NOT A CASE WHERE SOMEBODY MOVES OUT AND THE PLACE IS GROWN GRASS THREE FT. TALL AND THERE'S NO LIGHTS AND WATER PIPES BUSTED IN THE WINTERTIME BECAUSE SOMEBODY STOLE THE PLUMBING. WHATEVER THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, OUR COMMUNITIES SO NOT ONLY DID WE COME IN AND PROP UP A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES THROUGH THE DOWNTURN WHEN WE BOUGHT THE PRO PROPERTIES, BUT WE ALSO PUT THE MONEY BACK IN BRINGING THOSE VALUES BACK UP, NOT ONLY FOR OUR OWN HOMES FOR THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSES. ALL OF US WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE 2000 AND SEVEN AND EIGHT AND MAYBE YOU WEREN'T AFFECTED BY PERSONALLY. BUT IF YOUR NEIGHBOR WAS YOUR HOME VALUES WENT DOWN BECAUSE

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IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. ABSOLUTELY NOT. OUR SHAREHOLDERS ARE BORED. AND THE FOLKS THAT WE REPRESENT. WE WOULD NEVER ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. SO TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, AND YOU CAN DO YOUR RESEARCH OR STOCK TICKERS AIM AGE WERE $15 BILLION CAP. COMPANY OUT THERE AND TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. AND THIS IS SOMETHING I LIKE TO USE. AND I'LL JUST STOP TALKING AND LET YOU GUYS ASK MORE QUESTIONS OR ANYBODY ELSE BUT UM, IMAGINE YOU YOU OWN 55 HOMES. AND 48 OF THOSE ARE PAID FOR. YOU'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE. FINANCIALLY THAT'S US MULTIPLY THAT BY THOUSANDS, SO WE HAVE THE DEPTH TO GET PROJECTS DONE. AND THEY KEEP THE COMMUNITY. BUILT OUT AND VIBRANT THROUGHOUT ITS LIFE CYCLES, AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE VERY GOOD AT DOING WHERE WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE SOME TIME DOING THAT SO. ONE THING THAT KIND OF CANCERS. MY ATTENTION WITH THE MAINTENANCE BEING INCLUDED. IT'S LIKE NOW YOU KNOW WHEN IT SNOWS, THERE'S ALWAYS LIKE THOSE ONE OR TWO GUYS ON THE BLOCK THE DON'T SHOULDER SIDEWALKS, RIGHT AND YOU'RE LIKE IT'S ALWAYS THE SAME GUYS RIGHT HERE. IT'S LIKE I THINK IT'S COVERED LIKE THOSE SIDEWALKS ARE GONNA BE CLEARED BY THE COMPANY. AS FAR AS THE SNOW REMOVAL. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE LANDED ON THAT POINT. YEAH, YOU'RE IN THE SOUTH CHARLOTTE. NEVER TRULY IS THESE GUYS WEREN'T YOU BUILDING ASPHALT PLANTS CLOSE HERE. THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT. WHAT YEAH, WE CAN'T DO THE SAME KIND OF WORK THAT YOU KNOW, AND I'M FROM HERE. I GREW UP. I GREW UP IN WORTHINGTON. I LIVE IN DUBLIN. I'M WRITING YOUR NEIGHBOR. I MEAN, MARYSVILLE WAS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM ME. THE COMPANY'S EXPERIENCES SOUND DOESN'T HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THAT. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT YES BY LARGE, YOU KNOW, IMAGINE THIS. YOU KNOW ALL THE COSTS THAT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER AS WELL AS MAINTAINING YOUR HOME AND THEN JUST PAINT IF YOU'RE NOT GOING YOUR GRASS, YOU'RE PAYING. SOMEBODY DO THAT IN YOUR LANDSCAPING. IT ALL ADDS UP SO AGAIN AS AN AGGREGATE NUMBER. IT'S A GREAT BARGAIN VALUE. I MEAN, WE KNOW WHAT IT COSTS TO LIVE. HERE TODAY, AND BY AND LARGE WERE USUALLY 3 TO 400 BUCKS LESS A MONTH COMPARABLE PRODUCT UNLESS YOU PUT A TON OF MONEY DOWN. I GUESS THERE'S ALWAYS THAT. OKAY SO IF I LOOK AT IT ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THAT WOULD BE AND YOU AND I TALKED EARLIER WHEN THEY WERE IN THE ELEVATOR THAT WOULD BE, WEAVER WROTE. SO THERE'S ONLY ONE ENTRANCE GONE INTO THE PROPERTY AND THEN TO DATE WITH THE CALL THE SEC COME BACK AGAIN TO THE MAIN ROADS. UM ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS OVER THE YEARS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT I'VE HAD IS A LABEL AN ISLAND. IS THIS GOING TO BE AN ISLAND? IS THIS GOING TO PARDON LENGTHS FROM THE OTHER SUBDIVISION THAT WELL, THAT WAS MY QUESTION. I DON'T SEE HIM FROM HERE. BUT HE'S THE CONNECTION INTO THE OTHER SECTION OF TOWN SO THAT THEY CAN IF THEY WANT TO COME UP TO YOUR HOUSE AND COMPLAIN TO COMPLAIN TO YOU AT YOUR HOUSE. I DON'T HAVE A LASER POINTER. BUT MR SEYMOUR POINTED OUT, LIKE RIGHT RIGHT UP THERE FROM BLACKMIRE, AND THEN WE HAVE A RIDGED DRIVE. I DO HAVE A LASER POINTER. I THINK I CAN REMEMBER HOW SURE. OH LOOK AT THAT. LOOK AT THAT. ONLY A LAWYER, BUT T. OKAY, THERE'S. ONE STOP OUT TO THE SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH.

AND IN THE SECOND ONE SO AGAIN FIRE LIFE AND SAFETY AS I'M SURE THE FIRE PEOPLE WILL LET US KNOW AND WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE ENTRANCE ONCE YOU HAVE, I THINK OVER 30 LOTS OR SOMETHING THAT EXTENT, OKAY? GO AHEAD. THE OTHER POINT IS THAT YOU KNOW, IF WE PUT TWO OF THEM, THEN YOU GOT A LINE OF SIGHT ISSUE. WE PUT TWO HUNDREDS AND WE'VE ERODE. THEN YOU'RE STARTING TO, YOU KNOW, CREATING MORE TRAFFIC AND A LOT OF SIDE ISSUE AND I'M SURE YOU KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO COME OFF TRAFFIC. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO DURING DEVELOPMENT PLANNERS WILL BE TRAFFIC STUDY IN THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, SO WE'LL ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE THINGS. IF SOMETHING IS RECOMMENDED, YOU KNOW, ON THE WAY WE PUT WHATEVER IT IS WHETHER IT'S A TURN LANE OR OKAY, UM, ALREADY AND THEN, BUT AGAIN, IT'S YOUR YOUR SO, UM

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YEAH IF WE DO GO AND MAKE THIS UM UM THE INCIDENTAL, MORE MORE PRESIDENTIAL THAN AGRICULTURAL, THAT MEANS THAT A LOT OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES BRINGING THOSE PEOPLE BACK INTO MARYSVILLE, WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN A DESIRED BY SOME OF US COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE BASICALLY GIVING UP ON THAT, BECAUSE HE AGAIN WE'RE LOOKING AT 120,000 INCOME VERSUS 4 $500,000 INCOME IF IT WAS TO STAY AGRICULTURAL, RESIDENTIAL AND PEOPLE WOULD BUILD MILLION DOLLAR HOMES. YEAH, THAT GOES OUT OF THE WINDOW THERE, SO I'M NOT SURE I'M STILL A LITTLE BIT ON THE FENCE ON THAT ONE. YEAH, THEY GIVING AWAY THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THERE IS NO OTHER PLACE FOR THE EXECUTIVES TO COME TO MARYSVILLE AND LIVE IN A HOUSE LIKE THAT. THEY ARE LIVING IN THE COUNTY AND I CAN TAKE YOU TO MANY PLACES IN THE AREA WHERE YOU WILL SEE 12 OR EVEN $3 MILLION HOMES OUT IN ACCOUNT IN THE IN THE COUNTY, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE CITY IT'S ALWAYS THE SAME THING IS IT'S BASICALLY EVEN THOUGH YOUR CONCEPTS UM I HAVE TO SAY IS ONE OF THE NICEST ONES THAT I HAVE SEEN, AND IT DOES. I UM I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT DOES CALL TO INCLUDE A VARIETY OF HOUSING STYLES. THAT'S WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND I THINK YOU MEETING THAT ONE. BUT YOU'VE TAKEN AWAY THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WE WERE HOPING TO, MAYBE EVENTUALLY MOVE INTO THE MARYSVILLE AREA. UH WHEN BURGERS BECAME MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA, THOSE PEOPLE WITH THOSE HIGH INCOMES THEY MOVED OUT AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY WENT TO. YEAH SO YOU KNOW AGAIN, WE CAN'T I SUPPOSE DICTATE WHERE THE PEOPLE NEED TO LIVE. BUT AS FAR AS YOU TOOK A LOOK AT I WOULD SUGGEST SUBJECT THAT IF WE LOOK AT BUILDING FIVE

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LARGER LOTS WITH LARGER HOMES AND AGAIN. I LOOK AND I DRIVE A LOT OF TIMES WELL THROUGH THESE AREAS, AND I WONDER WHO IN THE WORLD CAN AFFORD TO LIVE IN THESE HOUSES, MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE CAN AFFORD A MILLION DOLLAR HOME AND THE TAXES AND THE UPKEEP THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT. I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, NOT CERTAINLY DOESN'T SPEAK TO ANYTHING THAT I KNOW ABOUT. BUT YOU KNOW THESE COMMUNITIES IN THESE HOMES THAT WE'RE BUILDING . IT'S EXACTLY IT'S EXACTLY THE DEMAND THAT WERE THAT THERE'S THAT'S THERE. IT'S THERE TODAY AND AGAIN AT 98.5% OCCUPANCY.

THIS IS A THIS IS A 4 TO 5 YEAR BUILD OUT. I MEAN, THIS IS A SUBSTANTIAL LIFT, AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE INTEGRATION OF THOSE TAXES AND I THINK FOR BUDGET PURPOSES FROM, YOU KNOW, FINANCE AND BUDGETING STANDPOINT , THAT'S GOING TO PLAY A LARGE PART. IN UM, ADDRESSING SOME OF THE NEEDS, WHETHER IT'S ROAD IMPROVEMENTS IN OTHER AREAS, STORMWATER, UM SCHOOLS MHM STAFF. YEAH FACILITIES. THERE'S A LOT TO BE SAID ABOUT WHAT WE BRING TO THE TABLE FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT. SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BUT THE DEMAND IS THERE. AND IF WE BUILD IT, IT'S GOING TO BE ROBUST AND THEN 11 LAST. IT'S A WORD THAT I HOPE THAT I WOULD NEVER HEAR AGAIN. YEAH AND IT'S CALLED TAX INCENTIVE FINANCING, OR TIF IS THAT AFTER TABLE I CERTAINLY HOPE SO. YOU DON'T YOU DON'T NEED A DEAF. OKAY PASS THE RESIDENTIAL AND USE THOSE. WELL, I MEAN, HERE'S THIS LOT OF TIPS FAILED BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU GOT A DOWNTURN IN THE ECONOMY, AND THEN IT GOES INTO RED. IF YOU WANT TO TIP THIS THING FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE DON'T WANT IT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE WELL AFTER WHAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH, WE DON'T WANT TO DO EITHER. YEAH, SO OKAY, JUST JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE. OKAY TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE. OKAY WE CAN LEAVE THAT THREE LETTER WORD ALONE, EDDIE. THANKS, BILL. I APPRECIATE IT. DOWN A LITTLE BIT, TOO HANGS POINT. IT'S MIKE IN THE YEARS THAT I WAS ON PLANNING COMMISSION. WE TALKED A LOT AND EVEN CREATED A COUPLE OF ITEMS IN THE ZONING CODE FOR LARGE SCALE HOMES LIKE YOU'RE ALLUDING TO THE CLOSEST WE GET EVER GET TO A DEVELOPER WANTING TO DO THAT WAS THE ONE THAT YOU CITED. BLOCKER MEADOWS. AND IT WAS LOCATED THERE BECAUSE OF THE BURGER ROAD ESTATE COMPLEX AS IT EXISTED AND TIMBER TRAILS RIGHT BEHIND IT, AND WE'RE ALSO FORTUNATE TO GET THE CURRENT FOLKS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET THAT WE'RE GOOD. BUT THEN WE PROCEEDED TO APPROVE A EWING MEADOWS RIGHT BEHIND ALL THAT KIND OF NEGATED ALL THE WORK THAT IT HAD BEEN DONE IN THERE.

ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DID. YES, YES, YES. SO WE SHOT OURSELVES, OKAY? OF THAT SUBJECT. I CAN'T.

I CAN'T LET THIS GO A LOT FURTHER WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE WEAVER ROAD CHESTNUT STREET CONCERN. UM I THINK WE'RE LAGGING. A LOT AND BEING READY FOR THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.

WE'VE A RIDGES BUILT OUT. ADINA POINT HAS A NEW ADDITION GOING IN IT. UM, JUST NOT RUN. IS WHAT 25% MAYBE. KEYSTONE HAS SOME TO BE BUILT IN THERE YET. WE KNOW THAT NINTH STREET DUMPS OUT ON CHESTNUT STREET, AND IT'S A BUSY STREET. WE KNOW PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY IS UNDERWAY AND IT WILL ULTIMATELY EXTEND OUT THE COLUMBUS AVENUE OR INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY, AND THAT WILL CERTAINLY BE A BIG HELP. BUT I THINK AS A CITY WE NEED TO LOOK SERIOUSLY AT THAT TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

THIS THIS WILL ONLY ADD TO. FURTHERMORE, TO THE TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THIS, WE COULD PROBABLY ANTICIPATE YET ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO NX LIKE WE DID IN THE NORTH.

WE ANNEXED. HOW MANY HOW MANY HOMES 300 HOMES. I CAN ANTICIPATE ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT BEYOND THIS. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING SOME WORK. ON THAT CORRIDOR. IN THE WEAVER RIDGE RANGE OF TIME. ALTHOUGH A LITTLE BIT AND I HATE TO GO THIS DIRECTION, BUT ROUTE 31 NORTH, YOU KNOW, HANK ALWAYS REFERENCES THAT AS AS ONE THAT WE DIDN'T THERE THAT WE DIDN'T FORCE

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FLOODING BECAUSE BECAUSE ONCE PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY IS THROUGH, I CAN SEE UM, MEADOWS. I CAN SEE TRAFFIC COMING FROM THAT DIRECTION AND USING PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY AS WELL AS BAR HAVEN EDITION, ETCETERA WORKING THROUGH STOCKS, DALE DRIVING OVER THE PROFESSIONAL TO GET ACROSS THE COLUMBUS AVENUE AND COLEMAN SO I JUST SEE MORE TRAFFIC. I REALIZE IT'S GOING PERPENDICULAR TO THE BUT I THINK YOU GET THE GIST OF IT ALL. I THINK THAT ALL COMES OF GROWTH AND, YOU KNOW, GETTING MARRIED, HAVE BEEN POISED FOR QUITE SOME TIME. WHETHER INNOVATION CORRIDOR AND EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU KNOW THAT TRACTION OF THE AREA WHERE THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY AND SCOTT'S IT'S JUST INEVITABLE. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S SOME HAS TO BE SOME THOUGHT, LONG TERM PLANNING AND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PRINCIPLE BEHIND THE TRAFFIC STUDY, BUT THE BIG PICTURE IS HUGE. WELL IT'S THE SAME SITUATION WE HAD OUT ON 31. EACH TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWED ITS MINOR IMPACT. BUT NOW THAT WE'VE GOT THREE. DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS. THE MINOR IMPACT MINOR IMPACT. MINOR IMPACT BECOMES A FAIRLY DECENT IMPACT.

IN MY OPINION, WE'RE THERE NOW. SO YEAH. UNDERSTAND THAT. OKAY, SO WE HAVE. WE'VE GOT TWO MORE MEETINGS TO DISCUSS THIS. AH. UNLESS ANYBODY HAS SOMETHING THAT THEY NEED TO SAY TONIGHT.

OKAY WE'LL MOVE ON. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING ON MAY 9TH. ALL OF YOU FOR LETTING US PRESENT. REALIZING NEGLECTED TO GET MY ADDRESS PREVIOUSLY TO REPLACE SUITE 700 KILOMETERS OHIO 43215 ACTUALLY HAS MY CONTACT INFORMATION AND ATTORNEY MOLLY GWYNN'S SHE IS THE OTHER ZONING AND LAND USE ATTORNEY THAT REPRESENTS MH DEVELOPMENT. YOU HAVE MY CONTACT INFORMATION AS WELL. IF ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AFTER TODAY'S MEETING PRIOR TO OUR NEXT MEETING. HAPPY TO FIELD ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSS ANY OF THESE MATTERS FURTHER OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU LOOK FORWARD TO SPEAKING WITH YOU AGAIN. AND FURTHERMORE, THAT'S A THAT'S A DESIGNATED CYCLING WELL. SHE COULD HAVE GOT IT. ORDINANCE H SECOND READING, PUBLIC HEARING, AUTHORIZE AND APPROVE A CORPORATE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF MARY'S. SCALP I'M SORRY , GOODNESS GRACIOUS, OKAY. SORRY

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ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS. ASHLEY YES, WE HAD THIS COME THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION AT THE MEETING EARLIER THIS MONTH, WHICH WAS APPROVED AND THIS IS A REQUEST FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE P U D, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY THE OAK SO THAT INCLUDED 50 SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND 80 CONDOMINIUM UNITS. AND WE DO HAVE MR PLANK HERE THIS EVENING . IF HE IS IN HER, IF YOU WANNA GET SOME INFORMATION FROM HIM ON THE PROJECT, UM AND YOU CAN YOU CAN TALK YOU THROUGH THAT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT? DO WE HAVE COUNSEL QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? MAYBE JUST A SHORT SUMMARY OF WHAT THE PROJECT IS. YES, PLEASE. THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS DONALD PLANK. MY ADDRESSES OF FOUR LEBANESE TOWN STREET. COLUMBUS, OHIO. I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT. UM THIS PROCESS THAT WE'VE DONE HAS BEEN ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF TWO YEARS. NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE CITY OF MARY WE HAD TO DEAL WITH AND I DON'T WANT TO. I DON'T WANNA MAKE IT ONE THAT SOUND LIKE WE HAD TO DEAL WITH THEM. BUT WE HAD TO ADDRESS ISSUES WITH THE EXISTING HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE THEY WERE PART OF OUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS A I WANT TO COME TO BEFORE YOU IN A REAL PRESENTATION, YOU'LL SEE A COMPROMISE. UM AND EVENTUALLY THEN WE GOT TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE AGREED TO AN EXTENSION OF THE OAKS AS IT EXISTS TODAY ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREAM CORRIDOR. IN A DIFFERENT SUBDIVISION TO THE EASTER THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREAM CORRIDOR, UM ALL OF THEM NATURAL MATERIAL AND ON MATERIALS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREAM, AND WE MATCH THE OAKS ON THE WEST SIDE. THE RESTRICTION FOR THE RESTRICTION. AS I RECALL, YOU'VE YOU'VE WORKED FAIRLY CLOSELY WITH ASHLEY AND HER GROUP IN IN COMING UP WITH A GOOD COMPROMISE . THE LAYOUT THAT I SEE LOOKS LIKE A VERY FAIR. COMPROMISE AND BALANCE WITH THE OAKS THAT EXISTS IN THE WAY YOU USED THE STREAM TO SEPARATE REALLY WORK WITH WITH THE CURRENT OWNERS AND THE OAKS. I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. HAD A NUMBER OF MEETINGS AND THAT RESULTED IN, UM THE TWO SETS OF DEED RESTRICTIONS THE MODIFICATION OF THE EXISTING RESTRICTIONS, MUCH OF WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN THE ZONING TEXT. UM BUT ACTUALLY, THERE'S MORE DETAIL. IN THE IN THE DEED RESTRICTIONS IN OUR CONTRIBUTION TO THE EXISTING HOME MONITOR ASSOCIATION. AND I THINK THAT I THINK IN THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HOME OWNERS CAME IN SPOKEN SUPPORT. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF SPOKEN OPPOSITION, AND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION OUT IN THE HALLWAY BETWEEN THOSE THAT I TRY TO STAY OUT OF IT SO ANYHOW, THAT'S UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY THIS WILL BE BACK FOR A SECOND READING ON MAY 9TH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME. JUST ONE SECOND, UM HMM. SO LOOKING LOOKING AT, UM, AT THE LAYOUT AS IT IS BEING PRESENTED TO US. YEAH UM, THE ONE THING THAT OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET AND I HOPE THAT THIS TODAY TIME TO BRING THIS UP, BUT THERE IS THE EWING MEADOWS. YEAH AS YOU KNOW , THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OUT THERE AND FOR THE LONGEST TIME YEAH, WE HAD ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT SO ONCE YOU LEAVE EWING MEADOW THAT HAPPENED TO BE BERMUDA STREET BEING BERMUDA ROAD, WHERE BOTH THE TRAFFIC OUT OF VIEWING MEADOWS AS WELL AS THE RETIREMENT HOME. AND THAT INTENT WAS THAT IT WOULD ALWAYS GO STATE INTO 7 36. NOW IT DOES THAT INFLUENCE ON YOUR PROPERTY. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT DOES. I DON'T BELIEVE IT DOES. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S STILL SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ON THE TABLE. BECAUSE PEOPLE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT THE DANGER COMING OUT OF EWING MEDAL, MAKING A LEFT HAND TURN THEN 200 YARDS FURTHER. YOU NEED TO MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN. NO TYPICAL LIGHTS OUT THERE. DEFINITELY GOING 60 70 MILES AN HOUR SOMETIMES, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR PROPERTY WHICH SEEMS TO HAVE MOVED UP NORTH, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT. I'M NOT SURE. BUT THERE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE THAT POSSIBILITY THAT WE DO HAVE THAT STRAIGHT THROUGH FROM MEADOWS ONTO 7 36

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STRAIGHTENING OF 7 36 BEG YOUR PARDON? ASHLEIGH, WOULD YOU REPEAT THE VOTE? FIVE. NOTHING ONE OF. OR YES OR YES, IN ONE RECUSED. ONE NEVER REFUSED, RECUSED HIMSELF BECAUSE HE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE WITH THE DEVELOPER. SO ESSENTIALLY, IT WAS IN THE VERNACULAR. IT WAS UNANIMOUS. IF THERE WERE 10 MEMBERS. I'M SURE ALL 10 WOULD HAVE VOTED YES, THANKS. OKAY.

IT'S THIS WOULD BACK ON MAY 9THD READING PUBLIC HEARING THE AUTHORIZE AND APPROVE A

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HANK GET BACK TO YOU WHEN YOU'RE READY, OKAY? UM YES, IT'S UH IT SEEMS THAT EVERY TIME IT, UM, IS SUITABLE FOR A PROJECT. SOMEBODY IS BEATING US OVER THE HEAD WITH THIS BOOK. THANKS FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER, BUT IT'S A CITY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT ALWAYS AMAZES ME IF IT'S TO THE BENEFIT OF THE PROJECT, HOW THEY CAN ALWAYS SEEM TO BE ABLE TO FIND SOMETHING IN HERE. YEAH AND AGAIN TONIGHT WE DID HEAR A LITTLE BIT OF IT. UM WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE GOING FROM AGRICULTURE TO MORE DENSE RESIDENTIAL, I THOUGHT, WELL, THERE'S STILL GOOD AND SEE WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE. YEAH AND AGAIN, THIS ONE WAS DONE IN, UM , ADOPTED JUNE 25, 2000 AND 18.

OKAY AND IN THEIR YEAH, IT DOES TALK ABOUT UM, THE ESTIMATE FOR FUTURE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND MOUNTED THIS 2000 AND 18 NEEDED IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS ABOUT 2000 TO 2400 HOMES. OKAY SO WE'RE

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YEAH, THAT IT SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE A VARIETY OF HOUSING SALES, AND IT MEETS THAT IT MEETS THAT CRITERIA. SO I'M NOT SAYING NO TO IT, YOU KNOW, BUT IT IS MOVING EXTREMELY FAST, AND I DO APPRECIATE ALAN OR PUTTING THE BRAKES ON A LITTLE BIT TO THE POINT OF SAYING, HOW HOW WAS THE INFRASTRUCTURE GOING TO WORK? YEAH, AND IF NOTHING ELSE , I THINK THAT AS A COUNCIL THE WE HAVE, AT LEAST AT THIS 0.3 MAJOR PROJECTS GOING THE FOREST STREET BRIDGE. UM ELWOOD, THE EXTENSION OF PHASE THREE OF 31. YEAH, BUT IT DEFINITELY IS TIME TO ALREADY NOW BEGIN TO LOOK AT WHERE THE FUTURE IS GOING TO TAKE US AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO MAKE US A CITY WHERE WE CAN MOVE MOVE IN AND DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT FRIDAY NIGHT BEING TRAFFICKED FROM 33 EAST ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH 33 WEST. SO AGAIN , I THINK THAT SOME OF OUR FOCUS NEEDS TO BE CHANGED INTO THE DIRECTION OF INFRASTRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE CORE OF MARYSVILLE. SO THOSE WHO ARE MY COMMENTS FOR TONIGHT. I THINK TANKS CHAIR. SOLVED I JUST HAD THREE TOPICS REALLY QUICKLY, BUT I WILL SAY THAT I AGREE WITH ALAN AND HANK. I KNOW. BUT THERE I DO AGREE WITH THE COUNCILMAN BURBEY AND MR SEYMOUR ON TRAFFIC. AS YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN HARPING ABOUT FOR A WHILE NOW, AND WE HAVE ALL RECEIVED THE EMAIL FROM THE RESIDENT STATING THAT THE ROAD ON CHESTNUT AND EAST FIFTH STREET IS BECOMING PROBLEMATIC. WHEN I REACHED OUT TO HER, YOU KNOW, I TOLD HER, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE HOUSES ON MY END OF TOWN DON'T HAVE DRIVEWAYS. SO ON STREET PARKING IS A NECESSITY. SO YOU CAN'T PUT TURNING LANES AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF ON THE OLDER PARTS OF TOWN BECAUSE THESE RESIDENTS. THESE HOMES WERE BUILT AT A TIME WHEN THEY, UM BEFORE THE BEFORE THE AUTOMOBILE WAS BUILT SO GOING TO GOING TO YOUR GUYS' POINTS YOU KNOW, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE'RE BUILDING AND BUILDING AND BUILDING AND WE HAVE ALL THIS MONEY. YOU KNOW, THE TIP WAS GOING TO BRING ALL THIS MONEY IN. SO NOW IT'S TIME FOR THE CITY TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO START BUILDING ROADS AND YOU KNOW AND WHERE THOSE ROADS GOING TO BE BUILT AND HOW THOSE ROADS GOING TO BE BUILT NEXT THING REALLY QUICKLY. WE TALKED ABOUT DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WHAT? SO IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE

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THESE ARE THE TOWN HOMES AND THEY HAVE YOU KNOW, BREAKFAST SODS AND STONE FACADES AND HARDY PLANKS AND CHIMNEYS TO THEM AND EVERYTHING THAT OUR CODE DOESN'T REALLY ENFORCE. THEN YOU HAVE THE FORTIES. AND SO THAT DEVELOPMENT GOT ONE. OH, ONE 199 BOATS, 71 VOTES AND THEN YOU HAVE THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT GOT 43. SO WHAT? I REALLY ASK YOU ALL IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH THE MARY, SO I ASKED RESIDENTS LOOK AT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LOOK AT THE PICTURE OF 43 LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENTS WERE BUILDING AND THEN TELL ME IF YOU THINK SOME OF THOSE ARE NOT EQUAL TO WHAT THE LEAST LIKELY WHAT ARE RESIDENTS WANTED TO BUILD IN THE CITY? AND THEN THE SAME WITH THE APARTMENTS THAT WERE BUILDING THE LAST THING IS, YOU KNOW THE COMMERCIAL SIDE. 14 VOTES IS THE LEAST COMMERCIAL SIDE, WHICH TO THE CITY'S OFFENSE AND TO ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE FOR ME. COLEMAN'S CROSSING WAS DONE BEFORE THIS WAS EVER REALLY DONE . SO THIS IS A TYPICAL OF WALMART COLEMAN CROSSING, WHICH GOT THE LEAST AMOUNT OF VOTES.

WHAT GOT THE HIGHEST AMOUNT OF VOTES IS TYPICAL OF ANY URBAN DOWNTOWN STREET TREES, WALK ABILITY, HISTORICAL PRESERVATION . PEOPLE DON'T LOOK AT THAT AND SAY THAT'S PRESERVATION. BUT THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT IS, AND THEN YOU HAVE UNIQUE CELLS. WHAT WAS INTERESTING WAS THE 95 VOTES . NOW THAT IS A PICTURE RIGHT OUT OF DUBLIN'S DOWNTOWN. 95 BOATS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN MARY'S BUT ONCE BECOME LIKE DUBLIN. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THERE ARE BUILDING STYLES THAT DUBLIN HAS. AT THE AVERAGE. MILLIONS OF RESIDENTS SAYS. YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK THAT'S NICE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN OUR STUDY. DOWN THAT BUILDING GAS STATION. YEAH YEAH, YEAH. YEAH RIGHT, RIGHT. EXACTLY HISTORIC BUILDINGS BUILT THAT ON THAT CORNER. WELL THE GAS MARY'S BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO BE LIKE THAT. SO I WAS SO ON THAT COMMENT. I'M DEBATING BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME. I THOUGHT ABOUT BRINGING THE PRESIDENT TOM TO MARRY THE PRESIDENT OF DUBLIN'S HISTORICAL SOCIETY TO CITY COUNCIL AND TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE ACTUALLY, DUBLIN HAS NEVER DEMOLISHED A SINGLE HISTORICAL BUILDING IN DOWNTOWN DUBLIN TO BUILD ANY OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW. THE PICK THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE REBUILT OUR BUILDINGS THAT WERE ON GAS STATIONS AND THE ONLY BONING THAT WAS EVER DEMOLISHED WAS BEFORE WAS IN 19 SEVENTIES, YOU KNOW, DURING THE GAS STATION SO THEN THE LAST THING I HAVE TO SAY, AND I'M NOT ROUGHING FEATHERS, BUT WITH THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS WITH THE LIGHTS. WHEN THE THERE WAS I SPOKE TO MARK AND HANK AT THAT TIME, AND ALL THIS WAS WAS ABOUT UPDATING CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS. TALKING ABOUT A PROPOSAL BRINGING IT TO COUNSEL AND THEN SEEING WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO AS A TEAM ABOUT CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS BECAUSE OF CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS UPTOWN OR JUST THE SNOWFLAKES. THEY'RE GETTING RUSTY AND THEY NEED TO BE UP. UPDATED. AND THEN THE CONVERSATION WENT TO. WELL LET'S TALK ABOUT OTHER ISSUES IN THE UPTOWN BASED ON THE COMMITTEE, AND THAT'S HOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT, AND THE LIGHTS WERE TAKEN DOWN BECAUSE SOME OF THE STRANDS OF LIGHTS FOR BY THE AVALON THEATER ON NORTH MAIN STREET. WE'RE NOT WORKING ANYMORE. THE WHOLE STRAIN WAS OUT. THE LIGHT BULBS THAT WERE BEING REPLACED WERE NOT BEING REPLACED WITH THE SAME STYLE OF LIGHT BULB. THAT WAS IN THE STRANDS BEFORE, SO NOT EVERY LIGHT BULB HAD THE SAME COLOR. THE LIGHT STRANDS WERE NEVER PUT IN PLACE TO BE PERMANENT. THEY WERE JUST WRAPPED AROUND THE TOP OF THE POLE. AND SO THE CONVERSATION WAS WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? LET'S THAT THEY'VE BEEN UP. LET'S JUST TAKE HIM DOWN. LET'S THINK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANG THEM IN THE FUTURE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THEM IN THE FUTURE, AND WE'LL PUT THEM UP DURING CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR. IT WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE. THE BOARD. THIS GROUP CONTROLS WHAT HAPPENS IT WAS JUST THEY WERE PUT UP FOR A GOOD REASON. AND IT WAS JUST A LONG TERM OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE MAINTAIN THE LIGHTS AND WITH THOSE MOVING FORWARD, SO I DIDN'T MEAN TO STEP ON YOUR TOES OR YOUR TOES.

UM AND SO THAT'S HOW IT GOT STARTED, AND THE COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW HAS STALLED AND NO. TWO

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THEM. TWO ISSUES. FIRST OF ALL, AS WE TALK ABOUT WORKING WITH THE AIRPORT ABOUT DRAINAGE, THIS IS AN EXCELLENT TIME TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS SIDE HAPPY? HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT SIDE HAPPY? ATTEMPTING TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE WATER FIRE. WATER FOWL, UM, ATTRACTIVE NUISANCES. THAT IS OUR RETENTION, DETENTION PONDS. AND MAYBE THOSE TWO CONVERSATIONS COULD BE USED ONE TO LEVERAGE THE OTHER. WANT TO INFLUENCE THINKING ON THE OTHER . I THINK EVERYBODY AT THIS TABLE, INCLUDING THE AIRPORT BOARD WILL BE VERY, VERY CONSIDERATE AND WANT THE BEST FOR THIS GROUP. THE BEST FOR THAT GROUP AND WORKING TOGETHER IS ALWAYS MORE BENEFICIAL STANCE. THE SECOND POINT. I HAD BROUGHT THIS UP WITH STAFF CLOSE TO A MONTH AGO. IMMIGRATION SUPPORT IS SOMETHING THAT I'M BECOMING EXCITED ABOUT. AND YOU KNOW, IN WORKING WITH A COUPLE OF PEOPLE. I THINK THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF PRESIDENT BIDEN.

CONTINUES TO REQUEST UKRAINIAN IMMIGRANTS INTO THE UNITED STATES AND IF THE GOVERNOR OF OHIO ALSO WANTS. TO ATTRACT THEM INTO THE STATE OF OHIO. I THINK IT WOULD BE WHO'VE US TO BE WELCOMING SPONSORS OF SOME OF THESE FOLKS. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POSITIVE NOT TO TAKE AWAY FROM, UM OUR CONNECTION WITH THE JAPANESE. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S GOOD, TOO. BUT THE IDEA OF MARYSVILLE WELCOMING WITH OPEN ARMS, ANY IMMIGRANT POPULATION AND HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN? HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT MORE VIBRANT AND I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO BE PART OF THAT. AND I'D LIKE TO THROW THAT OUT. THERE IS LIKE A TRIAL BALLOON. IF THE PEOPLE OF MARYSVILLE WOULD THINK ABOUT IT. IF THE STATE OF OHIO WHATEVER COME FORWARD AND WANT PARTICIPATING CITIES, UM I WOULD LIKE TO BE THE PATH TO THAT DOOR AND HAVE THE PEOPLE OF MARYSVILLE THINKING. HEY, THIS THIS IS YOU KNOW, WE CAN BECOME A TRULY INTERNATIONAL WELCOMING COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. OH, OKAY.

MHM ALRIGHT, I GOTTA TEST ON THE LIGHTS. DONALD OKAY FOR THEIR WORK AGAIN. THEY WILL AND THEY SOMETIMES YOU GOT TO REPLACE AND THEN PUT FRESHNESS, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY THING I'D LIKE TO SEE HIM UP. FIRST OF JUNE IN THE MAY SIMPLY FOR THE SUMMER. I THINK THEY DO GROW UP. WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN AND ALREADY SCHEDULED AND I KNOW I'VE ALREADY PASSED, BUT THEY WERE PUT UP FOR THE BICENTENNIAL. YOU'RE CORRECT, AND WE GOT SO MANY COMPLIMENTS. FROM SO MANY RESIDENTS THAT WE SAID LET'S LEAVE HIM UP. LET'S KEEP THEM UP PERMANENTLY, SO THEN TO UNILATERALLY TAKE HIM DOWN. I WON'T GO ANY FURTHER. I DIDN'T WANT TO EXCESSIVELY BE LABOR THAT I DID WANNA MAKE NOTE THAT ON ON SATURDAY AS A RECOGNITION RECOGNITION OF EARTH MONTH THAT THANKS TO IMPACT 60. AND AS AS THE I GUESS. THE SPONSOR OF IT. AND THEN, UH, HOSTED BY LIENS.

AND EMCEED, SO TO SPEAK. BY JEREMY GERMAN FERGUSON. IT WAS VERY GOOD CLEAN UP OF THE UPTOWN, SO IT WAS THE FIRST ONE OF THE SEASON. I GUESS IT'S GONNA BE MONTHLY. SCOTT WAS THERE I WAS THERE. THERE WAS WHAT 15 OF THEM. MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH, VERY GOOD TURNOUT, AND IT WAS A GOOD RECOGNITION FOR TODAY. SO OKAY AND IMPACT. 60 WAS WAS THE KEY CONTRIBUTOR THERE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I GUESS IT'S UP TO ME NOW. EVERYBODY'S WAITING TO GO HOME. I'M HOLDING YOU UP. I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW. RECOGNIZE WE'VE GOT HER BIRTHDAY COMING UP FRIDAY. WE'RE GOING TO BE POINTING SOME TREES AT MOBILE LIGHT SOUTH PARK CELEBRATING ARBOR DAY. I BELIEVE THERE'S A TREE GIVEAWAY THAT WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE

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