Oct 10, 2022 City Council

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WELL. WILL START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND PLEASE STAY STANDING FOR THE INDICATION EMPERORS. OKAY? INDEED FROM WHICH IS RUNNING ASIAN. INDIVIDUAL JUSTICE. ALMIGHTY GOD , WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND ITS CITIZENS. AMEN. WOW. WELL, CALL ONE PRESENT HERE, PRESIDENT HERE. THE PRESENT PRESIDENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. BEFORE WE MOVE ON. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW VISITORS TONIGHT. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND YOU TO PLEASE EITHER TURN OFF YOUR

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[ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]

THAT WOULD BE ALSO ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 29. AND THEN RIGHT BEHIND THAT RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER TRICK OR TREAT. MADEA TOBER 30 HERTZ. FROM 68 PM TRICK OR TREATED ON HALLOWEEN. YEAH.

THEN ANOTHER VERY POPULAR EVENTS THAT WE HAVE. AS YOU YEARS IS OUR PUMPKIN DROP. TALKING DROP THIS YEAR IS SUNDAY, NOVEMBER, 6TH. FROM 1 TO 4 P.M. THE FIRE STATION THERE COUNTY HOME ROAD.

YOU CAN WATCH TOKENS DROPPED FROM 100. BRING YOUR PUMPKIN OR PURCHASE ONE OF THE EVENT.

ADDITIONAL ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING FIRE TRUCK EXPLORATION HOUSES AND ALL THREE ALL OF THEM.

PROCEEDS BENEFIT THE MARYS. ALL BLESSINGS AND BACK. HMM. SUNDAY, NOVEMBER SIX. FROM ONE BEFORE.

PM. GENERATED JUST BRIEFLY WANTED TO ASK COUNSEL. THAT YOU ARE OPEN AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. WE ARE READY TO PROVIDE TOUR. METERS FACILITY AND THE MODEL RECLAMATION FACILITY IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE AT 5 32 WEEKS FROM TODAY, WE CAN CONDUCT A NICE LITTLE TOUR WEAKEST 70 WATER RECLAMATION. FACILITIES SO IT'S A NICE BUILDING. IT'S BEEN IN ADDITION, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE PUT IN A FEW MONTHS BACK , AND IT'S FINDING COMPLETED AND PUT INTO USE, AND WE'D LIKE TO CONDUCT THAT. FOR OUR NEXT COMEDIAN AT 5 30 MEMBERS ARE THERE. HE DID. I WILL SHIFT YOU CAN DISCUSS THAT I WILL SHIP THEM COMMITMENTS IN OPERATION. HMM. THE OLD CITY CREWS.

PERFORMANCE IS AROUND TOWN. HMM. FIRE. WITH HIMSELF. FINE. ARISING OUT. ONE ANNOUNCEMENT

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AND THEN FINALLY WASTEWATER. HAVE WATER THESE WITH THIS. GET SOME TIPS FROM THAT. THAT'S IT OPERATIONS. SURVEYED THE 2020 PROGRAM. RUNS FOR MONITOR. IT SHOULD BE WRAPPING UP DESTRUCTION OF THE DETENTION BASED. ONE COLOR REPLACEMENT PROJECT. CONTRACTOR. AND HE'S WORKING ON. WE WANTED ONE LOCATION LIKE THIS IN THE UPPER IS EXPECTED TO BE DELIVERED FACTORY. WHEN WE CLOSE. THANK YOU. HOW LONG WILL WOOD WALNUT BE CLOSED? WOULD YOU ESTIMATE CONFERENCE GONNA GET DELIVERED NEXT WEEK? ANTICIPATE I WOULDN'T MEET THIS STUDENTS TO INSTALL THAT. PRACTICE FOR PACE. STREET, SO I WOULD THINK BY EARLY NOVEMBER OKAY? GOOD. THANK YOU. HMM. OKAY. THANK YOU. REPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. HAVE A COUPLE OF TIMES TONIGHT.

[REPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT]

EVERYBODY LOOK FUNNY, UM, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER. UM I'M ACTUALLY A RESIDENT OF FOREIGN RACE HERE. WHERE IS DOPE, SO IT'S GOING TO BE BACK HOME? UM STEVE GRADUATED BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN CITY PLANNING, THEN IN KIND OF QUITE A FEW ROUNDS, MARKETING MINISTRY CAN FINANCIALS AND TO HAVE. WE'RE PART OF ERIC'S TEAM AND COMMUNITY ANY WAY I CAN APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. OKAY? TO GO OVER. I DON'T KNOW. CAN'T AFFORD. WHO FIRST RENOVATION.

THE IMPORTER. RENOVATION PARK. SO GOAL EXECUTION PLAN TO READ THE ENTIRE THING, BUT THE FIRST THING IS IMPORTANT. CONTINUING TO IMPLEMENT THREE PRONGED AND MARKETING STRATEGY FOR THE TRANSLATION. SO SOME OF THE DANCE. DID YOU SEE THAT? YOU DO HAVE LEGISLATION ON YOUR ROCKET THIS EVENING. POTENTIAL TAX ABATEMENT FOR THIS BUILDING, BUT WE'RE IN THE WORKING. TO CLOSE THIS MONTH. OR A MULTI TENANT. WE HEARD MORE ABOUT TONIGHT IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE LAST FEW MONTHS. BEFORE WE RECENTLY ONE COLUMBUS. WORKING ON SIX ACTIVE LEADS PART.

DISCUSSIONS CONTINUE ON POTENTIAL OTHER PRODUCT. PRODUCTS THAT WE'RE DOING APART.

TO BUSINESS AND QUARTER ACTUALLY TWO SITE VISITS. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY. RIGHT? THE

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THIS IS THIRD QUARTER WE DID RECEIVE AN ADDITIONAL $200,000 IN THE CAPITAL BILL PREPARATION THAT MATCHES THE 1.5 MILLION THE CITY AND THE COUNTY RECEIVED A FEW YEARS AGO. SO WE'RE TOTAL OF $1.7 MILLION FOR THAT FOR ETHNIC AND THE TENANT IMPROVEMENTS. WE ACTUALLY AARON STORY AND THE UNION COUNTY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS COMPLETED THE FIBER INSTALL INTO THE PARK. IT WAS NOT IN THE PARK. IT WAS ACTUALLY ON INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY. SO NOW WE CAN USE OUR FIBER IN THE IN THE PARK, WHICH IS A HUGE WIN TO HAVE THESE COMPANIES HOOK UP TO THE FIBER THAT WE'VE INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY IN AND A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND I YOU KEEP ON HEARING THIS, BUT WE'VE FINALLY GOT TO THE LAST HURDLE OF THE SITE CERTIFICATION PROGRAM, AND IT IS IMMINENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE THE SITE CERTIFICATION, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS SO THAT'S EXCITING. WELL WE'LL KEEP YOUR POSTERS THAT CONTINUES TO DEVELOP. SOME OF THE GOVERNMENT AND THE DEVELOPMENT EMISSIONS. RECENTLY TERRY AND I ACTUALLY ATTENDED THE MIDWEST US JAPAN ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE IN CHICAGO IN SEPTEMBER, UM DID MAKE SOME CONTEXT THERE. IT WAS GREAT TO SEE OUR JAPANESE FRIENDS. A LOT TRAVELED FROM JAPAN, SO IT WAS GREAT TO RE ACQUAINT OURSELVES WITH THOSE CONTACTS. WE ARE PLANNING A MISSION TO DETROIT THROUGH THE NORTHWEST 33 COG, PROBABLY FIRST QUARTER. OF 2023 AGAIN WHY DETROIT IS BECAUSE IT'S THE AUTOMOTIVE CAPITAL, THE WORLD AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR FUTURE. AND SO WE GO UP THERE AND MEET WITH COMPANIES TO TALK ABOUT SMART MOBILITY. E. V S AND OTHER TYPES OF OPPORTUNITIES.

COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE. THIS IS TO LEAN ASSOCIATES ATTENDED THE REGIONAL MEETING FOR S I, O. R AS WELL AS THE OHIO MEETING AND THE INTERNATIONAL MEETING IN DALLAS. IS COMING UP. I THINK THIS WEEK AND THEN THE NATIONAL MEETING IN CHICAGO IS LATER THIS MONTH FROM A MISSION STANDPOINT OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON TO PROMOTE THE THIRD THREE INNOVATION PARK. LOOK AT THAT SITTING UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, THIS EVENING. ANY QUESTIONS? GREAT. THANK YOU, ERIC. ACCOUNT THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. I HAVE NO REPORT THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, BECKY. NEXT UP IS HEARING OF CITIZENS. THIS PART OF THE AGENDA IS IF WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN PRESENT TONIGHT THAT WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO A COUNCIL ABOUT AN ITEM THAT'S NOT PART TONIGHT'S AGENDA. MHM OKAY,

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THOSE COSTS HAVE GOT A PRETTY DETAILED LIST OF WHY ARIELLA SOME OF OUR EXPENSES AS IT RELATES TO THAT THAT JULIAN THE UTILITIES DIVISION, PROVIDED ME IF ANYONE HAS ANY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THAT'S WE HAVE GOT THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME IF ANYBODY NEEDS ADDITIONAL DETAIL. THIS WAS BEFORE THE UTILITY RATE WORKING GROUP AS WELL AS THIS EVENING BEFORE THE SAFETY SERVICE COMMITTEE, SO IT'S BEEN THROUGH WHICH, UH, MARK CREAMS COUNCILS RAP ON THE UTILITY OF RIG WORKING GROUP, AND, OF COURSE, JR AND DONALD WERE A PART OF THE SAFETY SERVICE COMMITTEE THIS EVENING THAT UH, FELT COMFORTABLE WITH THIS. YEAH. LEGISLATION. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WITH THIS RESOLUTION ONLY TALKING ABOUT RECUPERATING THE CREDIT CARD EXPENSES AND OTHER EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS BECAUSE IN EXHIBIT A DOCTOR AND ALSO THE PICTURE THAT WE GOT YEAH, IT SHOWS THAT AND I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY THAT THAT PARTICULAR ITEM WAS HANDLED EARLIER THAT A CERTAIN PORTION OF YOUR OWN. YEAH WE ARE THE DIRECT PROVIDER INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE, UM, THE LIFT STATION THAT THAT THE NEW PART GOES DIRECTLY TO OUR SHORE, AND THAT HAS BEEN COVETED AND OVER YEAR TIME. I MEAN, I GUESS I JUST WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THESE ARE JUST ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING CHARGES THAT ARE BEING ADJUSTED . THESE ARE THE BUILDING CHARGES THAT GO TO THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY USERS. UM, AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH USAGE. COSTS EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. THESE ARE JUST ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDINGS, OPINION IN STATE ABILITY. OKAY JUST MINUTES BY THAT. THANK YOU. THE OTHER QUESTIONS. DID ANYTHING COME OUT OF THIS IS A ONE READING RESOLUTION. ANY ANY COMMENTS WITH REGARD TO. THE UTILITY RATE DISCUSSION. YOU KNOW, IT WAS AN ITEM WHERE, LIKE IT WAS MENTIONED. WE'RE SPENDING MORE ON CARS AND WHAT WE'RE RECEIVING, AND IN THE PAYMENT FOR IT, SO THIS IS A WAY TO BALANCE IT OUT. WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS ANYWAY, SO AND SOME OF THAT DO THE FACT THAT A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS STANDARD MAY USE A CREDIT CARD TO MAKE THE PAYMENT CREDIT CARD THAT THE BILL IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER. THE WATER IN THEIR YARDS. AND SO THE BANK CHARGE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE. OKAY IT'S JUST YEAH, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN WHEN YOU WOULD USE YOUR CREDIT CARD OR ANY OTHER PURCHASES IN THE CHARGES THAT COME WITH THAT CREDIT CARD WHEN YOU MAKE THAT PURCHASE. ARE THERE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS ON THIS SIDE? TO MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. ROLL CALL , MR SEYMOUR? YES, MR BERGER? YES MR REEMS? YES YES, MR BURBEY? YES MR CARPENTER? YES. SIX YEARS. MOTION CARRIES. MOVING ON ORDINANCES ORDINANCE A

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ADMINISTRATION COMMENT DOWN TO ERIC AND I THINK WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION AREA. WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR MEMBERS. THANK YOU, BECKY. THANK YOU, TERRY.

SO TONIGHT WE HAVE A PROJECT AND INNOVATION PARK SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED IN THE COMMUNITY . I THINK YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY BEFORE THAT WE HAVE ABOUT A 1% VACANCY RATE FROM MY INDUSTRIAL STANDPOINT, SO WE'RE VERY TIGHT WHEN IT COMES TO INDUSTRIAL SPACE THAT WE HAVE A DEVELOPER WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO A SPECT BUILDING IN THE PARK, AND I'LL SHOW YOU A MAP HERE SHORTLY TO BUILD ABOUT 133,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY WOULD HAVE THREE ABOUT THREE TENANT SPACES THIS COULD BE COULD CHANGE A LITTLE BIT, BUT PROBABLY NOT MUCH MORE THAN THREE. LOCATED ON A 9.8 ACRE TRACK. THIS IS A YOU ACTUALLY APPROVE THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT. I THINK BACK IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY BRINGING THIS PROJECT TO FRUITION. BUT THIS IS THE TAX INCENTIVE THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT. IT'S A $14 MILLION INVESTMENT, 75 ESTIMATED FULL TIME EMPLOYEES PAYROLL ESTIMATED ABOUT $3.75 MILLION IN THE BUILDING IS PLANNED TO BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR. MATTER OF FACT, THEY'D LIKE TO START DIGGING THIS YEAR, WHICH IS WHICH IS GOOD NEWS. SO HARD. THE WORLD IS THE NAME OF THE COMPANY, ALTHOUGH IT'S A DIFFERENT LLC, THAT'S ASSIGNMENTS AND IT'S ACTUALLY A GROUP THEY SET UP TO OWN THE BUILDING. IT'S ACTUALLY THE REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT OF ACTUALLY NOT 85 LUMBER ACTUALLY CREATE A NEW COMPANY, 84 LUMBER THAT'S LOCATED IN PENNSYLVANIA. AND OF COURSE, WE USED TO HAVE AN 84 LUMBER HERE IN MANY COMMUNITIES AROUND OHIO OR THROUGHOUT OHIO, IN THE MIDWEST. BUT THEY HAVE A PROPERTY ON THE EX CEO NAME A COLON. THEY'VE DONE INDUSTRIAL PROJECTS IN OTHER REGIONS AS WELL, BUT THEY INCLUDE LIGHTNING INDUSTRIAL FLEX RESEARCH AND DISTRIBUTION, LOGISTICS, MANUFACTURING, TECH FOCUSED TYPES OF BUILDINGS. YOU CAN SEE A BUILDING TO THE RIGHT. IT IS A VERY FAST GROWING COMPANY THAT THAT'S LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES . THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE THE FIRST PROJECT IN THE COLUMBUS REGION, SO IT'S EXCITING TO SEE THE MAYOR'S WAS GOING TO BE FEATURED FOR THE FIRST PROJECT. THIS IS THE PROJECT LOCATION. YOU CAN ACTUALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP MAYBE. YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA GO BACK. IT'S NOT. MY POINT IS NOT WORKING. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE COLORED AREA THAT'S ON INNOVATION WAY AND INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY. NEXT TO THAT SUMMARY YOUKU. IT'S BETWEEN MORE YOUKU AND DOCUMENTS APPLY TO THE RIGHT OF MORE. YOU GO. PORTS IS OUR TO THE SOUTHEAST IS ACTUALLY THE SUMITOMO FACILITY. BUT THAT'S THE 9.828 ACRES THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO PURCHASE. AH AT THE SITE. THIS IS A POTENTIAL LOOK AT THE BUILDING. THIS IS GIVES YOU KIND OF A FEEL FOR WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO DO WITH THE SPACE VERY SIMILAR TO THE SOUTH GATE BUILDING IS ALREADY UP AS WELL. SO THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF A POTENTIAL FLOOR PLAYING HOW IT COULD LOOK, UM AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S REALLY GOOD ABOUT THIS. THESE ARE LARGER SPACES.

SOUTHGATE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY IN 16,000 SQUARE FOOT INCREMENTS , ACTUALLY, 18,000 SQUARE FOOT INCREMENTS. AND SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT LARGER. SET UP SOMETHING AGAIN. WE DON'T HAVE THE PRODUCT ACTUALLY IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE SEEING THIS IN MARYSVILLE. SO TONIGHT BEFORE YOU HAVE ACTUALLY THREE AGREEMENTS BEFORE YOU. THE FIRST IS THE 10 YEAR. 75% TAX ABATEMENT. THE ABATEMENT ONLY APPLIES TO REAL PROPERTY INVESTMENT AND ALSO MEETS OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. INCENTIVE POLICY ARE IN NEGOTIATING TEAM, WHICH INCLUDES HINK, TERRY, BRAD AND MYSELF, AS WELL AS COUNTY AND SCHOOL OFFICIALS MET AND AGREED TO THE 75% 10 YEAR ABATEMENT. DEBATE MINTS IF IT EXCEEDS 60% SINCE THIS IS A C R A. IT DOES REQUIRE APPROVAL FROM THE MAYOR'S EXEMPTED VILLAGE SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE DO HAVE THAT ON THEIR DOCKET FOR OCTOBER 20TH FOR CONSIDERATION THE INCENTIVE POLICY NOT ONLY REQUEST REQUIRES

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IT'S NOT US. IT'S GOING TO BE FRANKLIN COUNTY. SO THAT'S THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD THING.

BUT HE'S STILL CONSIDERING IF THEY WANT TO DO IMPORT FINANCING DEAL. SO TIMELINE APPROVAL TONIGHT IS UP FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. WE HAVE ASKED. I BELIEVE FOR THE WAVING OF THE THIRD READING AND PASSING AS AN EMERGENCY. THE REASON BEING THE COMPANY DESIRES TO CLOSE BY THE END OF OCTOBER OR EARLY NOVEMBER , THEY WOULD LIKE TO START MOVING DIRT BY YEAR'S END SO THEY CAN START CONSTRUCTION AS YOU RECALL AND SOME OF THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS. THERE IS A DELAY UPWARDS. I THINK IT'S COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT. BUT WHEN LAST TIME I HEARD WAS ABOUT 11 MONTHS TO GET STEEL IN AND ABOUT THE SAME FOR LUMBER IN SOME CASES, SO THERE'S SOME DELAYS SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO EXPEDITE THAT PROCESS. IT WILL HELP ON 10 20 MAYORS WERE EXEMPTED. VILLAGE SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL REVIEW AND APPROVAL APPROVED. HOPEFULLY THESE AGREEMENTS, A SECOND READING ON THE 24TH AND HOPEFULLY APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL ON THE 26 THAT GOES TO OHIO HIGH POINT REVIEW AND APPROVAL. NOW IN THE PAST, YOU MAY RECALL THAT WE HAVE NEVER GONNA HAVE TO GO TO OHIO HIGH POINT FOR APPROVAL. THE LAW CHANGED LAST YEAR, WHEREAS IF YOU DO SOME TYPE OF DONATION AGREEMENT, IT TRIGGERS APPROVAL OF OHIO HIGH POINT AS WELL, SO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN ADDITIONAL APPROVAL PROCESS FOR THE TAX ABATEMENT AND THEN ALSO, THE PORTS AUTHORITY DOES MEET ON 10 31. WE'RE GOING TO CONFER WITH HARDY WORLD TO SEE IF THEY WANT TO PURSUE THE INVESTMENT. SO A COUPLE FINAL COMMENTS HARDLY WORLD IS A WELL ESTABLISHED DEVELOPER HAVE MANY SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENTS. IT WILL BE THE FIRST PRESENCE OF COLUMBUS MARKET ONLY MINIMAL DEMAND ON SCHOOLS. ONLY MINIMAL TRAFFIC WILL BE GENERATED AS PART OF THIS GREAT PARTNERSHIP TO THE DONATION AGREEMENT, AS WELL AS THE REQUIREMENT OF SOME TYPE OF INTERNSHIP INTERNSHIP WILL BE GREAT FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND AGAIN THE SPECULATIVE ELEMENTS. YOU KNOW, YOU MAY SAY, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT COMPANY. WE DON'T KNOW

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WE ARE DOING A LOT OF TIMES YOU SEE ENTERPRISE ZONE TAX ABATEMENTS VERSUS COMMUNITY INVESTMENT AREA. WE CREATE THIS HERE A BECAUSE WE WANTED DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS TO OCCUR IN THE PARK FLEXIBILITY THAT ALLOWS YOU TO DO MULTI TENANT, WHEREAS ENTERPRISE ZONES ARE TYPICALLY SINGLE TENANT USERS. SO THIS IS A TOOL SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A TOOL WE'RE USING JUST FOR THE TENANTS, SO IT'S THE INTENT IS THERE AND THE PROPERTY , THE DEVELOPER OWNERS IS MUTUALLY THE SAME THING IN THE AGREEMENT. OKAY THE OTHER THING ABOUT THIS TO THE THINK ABOUT THIS. WE'RE GOING TO GET THREE TENANTS IN HERE. THEY'RE ALL THREE GOING TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT. ALL THREE GRAND, DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIPS.

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YEAH BUT I THOUGHT THAT IN THE OVERALL AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD THAT WAS YOU SHOWED US THAT PART OF THAT GOES TO THE COUNTY. PART OF THAT GOES TO A JOINT LOCATION. AND PART OF THAT GOES THROUGH THE SCHOOLS. SO WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL. MARYSVILLE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL AS OHIO HIGH POINT AND THE DISCUSSION WAS THAT THEY WOULD KEEP THEIR 25% THAT WOULD BE KIND OF THE PAYMENT BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S NOT 100% ABATEMENT. THEY'LL STILL GET 25% OF THEIR TAXES. AND THE AGREEMENT WAS. THAT'S WHAT HOW OHIO I POINT. THAT'S THE MONEY THEY WOULD RECEIVE MENTAL HEALTH POINT. THE SUPERINTENDENT STILL HAS TO GO TO THE BOARD AGREED TO THAT, AND MARY'S OLD SCHOOLS PREFERS THAT, AND THAT WAS THE ARRANGEMENT THAT THEY SET UP NOW KEEP IN MIND OR HIGH. HIGH POINT HAS A BIG PRESENCE OF MARYSVILLE SCHOOL. SO ANYTHING THAT BENEFITS MARRIAGE WILL SCHOOLS IS GOING TO BENEFIT ALL HOW HIGH POINT SO THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER CLOSER, SO THAT'S THE AGREEMENT THEY DETERMINED BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM SO THEY'LL WORKED IT OUT. YES, THE LAST STADIUM THAT I HAD WAS THE LAST ONE FROM THE BOTTOM. THAT'S THE 100,000 OVER 10 YEARS. UM. ANY ANY WAY THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T DO THIS SO OFTEN, BUT I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT IF AND WHEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OTHER OTHER APPARATUS, WHAT DO WE BASE THE 10,000 PER YEAR ON? THE ONLY THING THAT I COULD FIND OUT IS IT OCCUPIES 10 ACRES, SO IT'S 1000 PER ACRE? IS THAT THE UNIT OF MEASURE THAT WAS USED BECAUSE IN THE FUTURE, YOU HAVE OTHER COMPANIES THAT ARE LOOKING AT THIS SITE. AND THEN IF A PILOT OR A DONATION IS A GIVEN, IF YOU WILL, YOU ALMOST HAVE TO SET A CERTAIN STANDARD. YOU DID THE SAME THING WITH THE C R A. C R A IS IF YOU DO 10,000 YOU PAY MAYBE 1000. IF YOU'RE OVER, 100,000 YOU PAY $6000. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE DIFFERENT AGREEMENTS . BUT THAT IS THAT IS OUTLINED AND THEY KNOW THAT AHEAD OF TIME. I DON'T SEE THIS HERE WITH THE PILOT, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT. LIFE WERE THAT SIMPLE, LIKE 10. ACRES EQUALS THAT EQUALS THIS, BUT IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE. SO THIS WAS A NUMBER THAT WAS DERIVED FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND PROVIDED TO US. UM I WOULD PREFER A SCALE OR SOMETHING THAT THE COMPANIES THE COMPANIES WANT TO KNOW. CERTAINLY THEY WANT TO BE CERTAIN ON WHAT'S GOING TO BE CHARGED. AND SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE HAVE TO DEVELOP WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE'VE HAD A FEW MEETINGS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON THE INCENTIVE POLICY. THIS WAS A WAY TO MAINTAIN THE INCENTIVE POLICY THE WAY IT IS SHARING ALL REVENUES. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GETTING THIS PILOT OFFSET SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS WAS PART OF THIS ARRANGEMENT. NOW IN THE FUTURE TO YOUR POINT, I THINK IT'S ON US TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF MECHANISM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SEE A PIE. I MEAN, SOMETIMES COMPANIES MAY NOT AGREE TO PILOT PAYMENT. THIS IS UNIQUE. THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN.

OPEN ALL THE TIME. BUT IN THIS CASE IT'S CALLED THIS REQUESTED IT. WE ASKED FOR IT. AND YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE MORE NEGATIONS. NEVER DECISION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DETERMINE WHAT WE NEED TO DO HERE. OKAY YEAH, BUT THERE'S NO METHOD TO THE MADNESS OF THE WATER WHERE THE 10,000 PER YEAR CAME AS A NUMBER THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US. OKAY ALREADY? NO, NO, A LIKE I SAID, IT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT WE HAVE SUCH A LARGE DOCUMENT. IT WAS OVER 30 PAGES WITH A LOT OF LEGALESE INTO IT. IT IS THE SEPARATE AGREEMENT. IT'S ONE WITH THE CRV. IT'S ONE WITH THE CITY AND THE SCHOOLS AND THEN SEPARATELY. THERE IS TWO DONATION AGREEMENT AND SAID THOSE WERE THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD. AND I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO WHEN IT PROBABLY COMES BEFORE US TWO WEEKS FROM NOW THAT THIS WOULD BE A VERY FAVORABLE UM, THIS WOULD BE VERY AVAILABLE LEGISLATION TO PASS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE SCHOOL IS GOOD FOR THE CITY AND ALL THE WAY AROUND. IS GOOD FOR US TO GET THAT TYPE OF BUSINESSES IN HERE. OKAY THOSE WERE MY ONLY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU'RE ONLY COMMENT. OKAY YEAH, BY THE WAY, WE'RE PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE MADNESS PART. YEAH UM, A

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OKAY I THINK EVERYBODY'S WAITING FOR THE NEXT ONE. WE WILL BE BACK FOR A THIRD READING ON THIS

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ATTACHED UNITS. AGAIN NOT A DUPLEX, NOT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME . UM I THINK THE INTENT OF THE PLANET HOLLYWOOD POPULATED STRUCTURES IN TOWN WHERE YOU CAN WALK TO THINGS. UH TRAFFIC BONES, YOU KNOW? COMMUNITY. WALK AROUND TYPE OF COMPLEX WHERE THIS IS OTHER SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY. DEFINITELY NOT UNSAVED WALKING, DEFINITELY NOT IN WALKING DISTANCE APART. I DON'T THINK IT. FOLLOWS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UM THAT'S MY NAME POINT. AND I KNOW WE I MEAN, I'M GUESSING THE SAME. HONORED A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST BASED ON THINGS ARE GOING AS MANY PROBABLY ARE CONCERNED. IT IS GOOD BECAUSE TO ME IT'S BECAUSE THE ALTERNATIVES WORSE TOO MUCH QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. TIM TIM SHOCKED TO 0268 PAIR OF BARNES ROAD. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN. UM MR CARPENTER. WE DIDN'T OVERLAP WHEN I WAS ON PLANNING COMMISSION. SO I APOLOGIZE. YOU CAN SEE MY HANDSOME FACE VERY OFTEN, UM SO I'M A RESIDENT OF THE COUNTY NOW USED TO BE IN THE, UH, CITY LIMITS, AND I SERVED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHILE WE WENT THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I LOOKED AT THE PLAN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. I LIKE THE MIX OF DIFFERENT DENSITIES AND THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT, HOWEVER, UM MY PARTICULAR ISSUES , THE TRAFFIC AND ITS SEGREGATION FROM MAINE MARY'S FILLS PLANNING AREA. UM, WHEN WE LOOKED AT CREATING THAT FUTURE AREA OF RESIDENTIAL. WHEN I WAS ON PLANNING COMMISSION, I SAW IT AS COLLINS ROAD BEING THE HUB OF THAT, AND THEN AS THAT DEVELOPMENT WENT, IT WENT FROM THE CENTER OUT. I THINK IT'S PROBLEMATICALLY WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS CURRENTLY, UM I THINK WHAT HAPPENED IN THE FUTURE FINE IF THERE WAS CONNECTIVITY BACK INTO THE MAIN NETWORKS WITHIN THE CITY, THAT WOULD BE A LOT BETTER, BUT KNOWING THAT WE LIVE ON PAPER BARNES NOW AND THE TRAFFIC AND THE ISSUES THAT GO THROUGH WITH ABOUT 2 45 AND, UH UM, NORTHWEST PARKWAY. IT'S SCARY THERE. IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE WORST INTERSECTIONS THAT I GO THROUGH MY SON'S SCHOOL BUSSES GO THROUGH THAT. I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOMEONE KILLED THERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN WE MOVED OUT OF THE CITY. UM WE DID SEE OH DOT DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS OUT THERE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WAS NO SIGNALING OR ANY IMPROVEMENTS OTHER THAN NEW PAYMENT, SO I'M NOT SURE. UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY IS UNDERSTANDING OF AS THIS AREA DEVELOPS, THAT'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR ISSUE, AND I KNOW YOU'VE PROBABLY DISCUSSED THIS ON YOUR FIRST READINGS. UM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THE CITY LOOK AT THAT GOING FORWARD. UM ADDITIONALLY I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, GETTING OUR WATER AND SEWER AND AS WE START TO, AS MARY'S WILL STARTS TO ANNEX MORE FARMLAND INTO THE AREA, UM I CAUTION THE COUNCIL AND MARYSVILLE WITH THE SPRAWL THAT PUSHING OUT OUR UTILITIES DOES CREATE. UM AND THEN THE LONG TERM IMPACT OF WHAT THAT MAY BE FINANCIALLY TO OUR RESIDENTS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TIM. AH! WE GOT A COUPLE OF HANDS UP. GO AHEAD. HI FIRST NAME IS AARON. LAST NAME TAKEN OFF THEM. UM I'M GONNA START MY PRESENTATION. GET

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PART OF THAT IS TO MAP OUT WETLANDS. WETLANDS ARE THE CLEAN WATER ACT IN THE UNITED STATES.

UM, IT'S DONE THROUGH WHAT'S CALLED WETLANDS DELINEATION THAT'S DONE BY A SOIL SCIENTIST . UM MUCH LIKE A TRAFFIC STUDY FOR SO WHAT? EIGHT I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING ABOUT WETLANDS DONE THAT'S SPOKEN TO STAFF ABOUT THAT. I THINK WE HAVE A LITTLE DISAGREEMENT. WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO OCCUR. WETLANDS IS DONE THROUGH WETLANDS DELINEATION. IT'S NOT BEEN DONE.

NOBODY THEY TOLD ME THAT IT WILL BE DONE DURING THE ENGINEERING PHASE. THAT'S NOT WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN CALLS FOR. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT NOW IS THE WETLANDS THAT I CURRENTLY OWN THIS, UH READ DOWN HERE. YOU SEE AGAIN RIGHT THERE. THAT IS MY PROPERTY THAT IS A WETLAND HAS BEEN IN MY FAMILY FOR 50 YEARS FROM THE DEED. NO WATER FARMS TO THE NORTH OF HERE. THEY'VE GOT THIS IS THE NATIONAL WETLANDS MAPPER THEIR SEAT, CLAIMING THERE WAS WETLANDS RIGHT THERE.

I SPOKEN TO SEVERAL PEOPLE SAID HE WILL FIND WETLANDS AND STILLWATER FARMS WHEN IT'S DONE.

MY POINT IS, WHY DON'T YOU FIND OUT NOW? UM. MARYSVILLE HAS A POLICY IN STORM WATER, STORMWATER SYSTEMS SELF GUARANTEE THE PRE DEVELOPMENT QUALITY AND QUANTITY OF ANYTHING FLOWING ONTO WETLANDS. THAT WOULD BE MY PROPERTY. THIS IS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FROM THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM PRESENTED THIS DIRECTLY TO THEM LAST MONTH . YOU'VE GOT IT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT HERE OR NOT. THEY CLAIM THIS CORNER, RIGHT? HERE IS THE HIGH POINT. AND THEN THEY SHOW AN ARROW, THE WATER FLOWING NORTH. IF YOU GO OUT FARTHER NORTH IT ACTUALLY SAYS THE HIGH POINT UP THERE BY 2 45 HIGH POINT. THEY PULL UP THE CONTOURS, WHICH IS JUST ELEVATIONS. 10 58. IT GOES UP TO 10 61 10 61.2 AND GETS EVEN HIGHER. WE'VE GOT WATER FLOWING UPHILL. IF YOU GO UP FARTHER HERE, EVEN FARTHER NORTH, THERE'S ANOTHER HIGH POINT UP THERE. AND IF YOU PULL UP THE CONTOURS, IT'S NOT ACCURATE. YEAH. DOUBLE CHECK THIS I GOT WITH THE UNION COUNTY SOIL AND WATER SERVICE, AND THIS IS THE SAME MAP CONFIRMING THAT WATER FLOWS OFF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ONTO MY PROPERTY. I WANT TO SHOW YOU THIS ARROW AGAIN. THE PART THAT IS STILL MAINTAINED IS THE SAME WRONG DOCUMENT THAT HAS BEEN SUPPLIED TO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT. THEY BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION. MR. SMITH TRIED TO SAY WE ARE. WE ONLY PUT RETENTION PONDS AND LOW SPOTS, WHICH IS WHERE THAT'S AT. HE MAKES NO EXPLANATION FOR WHY IT SAYS HIGH POINT AND HE'S UP HERE FARTHER THE OTHER PART OF EVEN HIGHER, SAYS HIGH POINT I'VE CHECKED IT. IT'S WRONG AS WELL. THE REASON THAT BECOMES A PROBLEM IS BECAUSE THE PUBLIC SERVICE DIRECTOR WAS ASKED ABOUT DRAINAGE BY GREAT QUESTION, BUT MR BURBEY DRAINAGE, SEWAGE IT WAS ASSERTED BY MR HOYT THAT THE HIGH POINT IS THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY. NO THERE'S NO CONTOURS ANYWHERE THAT SHOW IT'S THE HIGH POINT OTHER THAN DOCUMENT THAT WAS SUPPLIED BY THE DEVELOPER. BUT NOW YOU'RE PROBABLY WONDERING, WHY DO I CARE ABOUT DRAINAGE? GIVE YOU A LITTLE THIS IS 1994. THIS IS AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY. THIS IS COLLINS ROAD IN US, 36. AND YOU'VE GOT WHAT? IT'S SECTION RIGHT THERE AT THE INTERSECTION. AND WE GOTTA THEY START BUILDING THINGS ARE CHANGING IN 2003. 2006. IT'S STARTING TO FLY. 2010. YOU'VE GOT MORE FLOODING.

2021 DRIVE BY THERE. SOMETIMES IT'S A SWAMP. I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN TO MY PROPERTY. SO I THOUGHT I HAD THAT CLEARED UP. I THAT WAS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ONE OF THE CONDITIONS.

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NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT. WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT WERE OPPOSED TO THIS HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE. IT DOES NOT FIT THAT AREA. IT'S NOT WHY WE BUILT OUR HOMES OUT THERE. THANK YOU. MR PRESIDENT, I WOULD SAY THAT SHE HAD AFFORDED A PRESENTATIONAL. SEND

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27 UNITS PER ACRE. AREAS. D N. A SINGLE FAMILY AND PATIO HOMES COMPRISED 368 UNITS AT 2.7 TO 3.3 UNITS PER ACRE. THE CARPET HAS A PLAN TO FIND THIS AS SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL AT 3 TO 6 UNITS PER ACRE. BUT STILL WATERS PLANS CALL FOR A SINGLE FAMILY LIGHTS AS SMALL AS 60 BY 1 30, WHICH IS 5.5 UNITS PER ACRE. AND PATIO LOTS AS SMALL AS 52 BY 1 25. THAT'S 6.7 UNITS PER ACRE.

SO BASICALLY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO FIND STILL REFORMS AS A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, NOT SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL. TO BE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO STATES, EACH HOME SHOULD BE AT MOST ONE HALF MILE FROM A PARK OR SIGNIFICANT OPEN SPACE TO PROVIDE RESIDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO WALK TO RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES. IN THE STORE. WATER FORMS SKETCH PLANE. SHOWS THE SIZE OF A SIZEABLE MAJORITY OF THE OPEN SPACE WILL BE DEPENDENT WILL BE DEPEND DETENTION PONDS SO THAT TWICE NOT RECREATIONAL SPACE. BUT STILL WHAT REFORMS ALSO DOES NOT MEET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS DESCRIPTION OF MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH STATES SITUATED IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO KEY ASSETS IN MARYSVILLE. BUT MERELY HEAVILY TRAVELED CORRIDORS AND UPTOWN DISTRICT. AND WALKABLE STREETS AND CONNECTIONS, WHICH SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED BETWEEN MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL END UPTOWN DISTRICT, ENCOURAGING MOBILITY FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. I POINT OUT THAT EVEN THOUGH VALLEY KOREAN ACRES, ADINA POINT AND SCOTT FORUMS OR SIDEWALK OR PATHWAY CONNECTED TO UPTOWN.

MARYSVILLE TO THE CITY'S ASSETS. AND IT THRIVED IMPORTANT DUE TO THOSE THOSE ATTRIBUTES. AGAIN, QUOTING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ALTHOUGH A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF LAND OUTSIDE THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE HAS BEEN INDICATED THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL GROWTH. NOT ALL EVEN MOST OF THESE AREAS SHOULD BE DEVELOPED. IN THEIR FORESIGHT. OUR CITY PLANNERS PREDICTED PROPOSALS SUCH AS THIS THANK YOU. GUIDANCE TO SAY NO, NOT HERE. IF BUILT TO ORDER FORMS WILL BE WILL CREATE. MORE TRAFFIC WHENEVER ROAD NOT SUITED FOR IT. THAT WOULD BE A RESIDENTIAL ISLAND WITH MINIMAL ASSETS AND ACCESSIBLE ONLY BY CORE. IT DOES NOT MAKE THE GOALS FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. IS DESCRIBED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS ONE. I VOTED IN OPPOSITION AND ARE DUE TO DO AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HELLO MY NAME IS JIM HARPER. I LIVE AT 106. I'M SORRY. HUNTERS RON, ANYWAY, UM 10671 HUNTERS RUN AND, UH, YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN MENTIONED, AND I THINK THE OVERWHELMING IDEAS THAT I HAVE, BUT I'M REALLY HOPEFUL THAT COUNSEL I KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION'S DOING A VERY GOOD JOB. I THANK THE DEVELOPER FOR TRYING TO BRING ASSETS OUT HERE. I'M NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT. I'M FOR IT, BUT I HAVE THREE MITIGATING ISSUES I'M CONCERNED ABOUT AND HAVE ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED. ONE IS TRAFFIC. WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THAT, UM I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND EMPHASIZE THAT I ASKED FOR THE TRAFFIC STUDY. UM KYLE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO GIVE ME ONE OF THE TRAFFIC STUDIES. THE ONE THAT WAS MOST RECENTLY SMITH AND I GOT AN HOUR BEFORE THIS MEETING. SO I DON'T

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ANYONE ELSE? OKAY THIS IS NOT VOTED ON TONIGHT. IT COMES BACK IN TWO WEEKS FOR THE FINAL READING AND. CITY COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION DISCUSSION. IN A BOAT. YES. REALLY A LITTLE BIT WITH HIGHLAND DEVELOPMENT WITH THE DEVELOPERS STILL WANT TO FARMS. UM COUPLE ITEMS WE HAD CHATTED ABOUT LAST WEEK. I WANT TO KIND OF UPDATE EVERYBODY ON UM, WE HAVE AGREED UPON A

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I'M GONNA LET JUSTIN IN THE MOMENT CHAIR ABOUT TRAFFIC. UM BECAUSE WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING ON THE TRAFFIC ISSUES. SO I'LL LET HIM GO THROUGH AND CHAT ABOUT THAT. THE OTHER ITEM I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS, UM HANG ON A SECOND. WE HAVE PROVIDED THE STAFF HAD ASKED US TO DO AN UPDATE TO THE DOCUMENTS WITH SOME TEXT CHANGES. WE HAVE DONE THAT. AND ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP TONIGHT, AND I APPRECIATE THE CONCERN. IS AN, UM, ROADWAY TO COLLINS. WE DON'T. WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION. WE DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF US.

BUT WE'VE HAD WE HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE IRWINS. THAT WOULD GIVE US A RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL IF THAT EVER COMES UP FOR SALE. TO BUY THAT PROPERTY AND PROVIDE AN ACCESS TO COLLINS ROAD. SO WE WOULD PROBABLY DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY AND BRING THAT ROAD ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO COLLINS. SO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT COUNCIL HAVE LAST WEEK. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO ADDRESS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS SO WE COULD COME BACK SOME INFORMATION I'M GONNA LIKE JUST IN THE ENGINEER TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WITH TRAFFIC AS WELL AS SOME PUT SOME OF THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT ISSUES THAT BEEN BROUGHT UP. JUSTIN WALLENBERG TERRAIN EVOLUTION SITE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT. I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BUT WE'VE OBVIOUSLY BEEN WORKING WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS. NOT HERE TONIGHT. THE JUST SUBMITTED THE THIRD REVISION, ACTUALLY, THE THIRD ITERATIONS, THE SECOND REVISION TO THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY AND TO GO DOT THIS MORNING. UM WE TOOK YOUR COMMENTS FROM LAST MEETING HAD A MEETING WITH STAFF SHORTLY AFTER THAT. HAD ANOTHER MEETING AGAIN WITH A DOT ON THE THIRD. WE'VE INCORPORATED THOSE COMMENTS INTO THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND STABILITY TO THE CITY AND TO GO DOT UH, START THE. THE STUDY THAT WAS SUBMITTED THIS MORNING . UM DOESN'T HAVE SIGNIFICANT, IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN THE PREVIOUS ITERATIONS. WE ADJUSTED SOME. SOME DISTRIBUTIONS AT AS A RESULT OF SOME COMMENTS. AND THEN ALSO LOOKED AT AN ALTERNATE WITH THE SCHOOL INSTEAD OF THE COMMERCIAL. SO THE SCHOOL AS AN ALTERNATE ACTUALLY. CHANGE SOME OF THE YOU KNOW SOME OF THE FINDINGS THAT WE HAD IN THAT STUDY. WITH THE COMMERCIAL IN PLACE. THE FINDINGS OF THE STUDY HAD TURN LANES AT OUR ENTRANCE. UH TURN LANE AT THE WESTBOUND ENTRANCE RAMP OFF OF 2 45. 2 33. AN ADDITIONAL TURN LANES AT 2, 45 AND NORTHWEST PARKWAY. A RIGHT TURN LANE FOR THAT ONE. ANYBODY WHO PROBABLY GOES THROUGH THEIR RATHER KNOWS THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC THAT GOES TO THAT INTERSECTION AND TURNS RIGHT, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE ADDING A RIGHT TURN LANE IN THERE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT THEY CAN BYPASS ANYBODY WHO'S WAITING TO TURN LEFT. A THEN AT THE. EXIT RAMP FROM 33 WESTBOUND ONTO NORTHWEST PARKWAY. WITH THE COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC LIGHT WAS WAS WARRANTED UNDER THE STUDY. WITHOUT THE COMMERCIAL WITH THE SCHOOL IN PLACE, TRAGICALLY, CURRENTLY IS NOT WARRANTED THERE FOR THE STUDY. NOW WE'VE GOT ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE WITHOUT DOTS. ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE WITH STAFF ABOUT HOW TO BEST MITIGATE THE IMPACT WE ARE HAVING AT THAT INTERSECTION. WITHOUT A WARRANT.

OH DOT I WILL NOT LET US, YOU KNOW, INSTALL A LIGHT. WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AND THEN POTENTIALLY ALSO COST OF A FUTURE IMPROVEMENT THAT WE CAN CONTRIBUTE TO HELP MITIGATE THE IMPACT THAT WE'RE HAVING AT THAT INTERSECTION. THAT PRETTY MUCH BRINGS YOU SPEED AND WHERE WE ARE, I THINK ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY ITSELF. ONE OF THE OTHER OPTIONS ARE ITEMS THAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS WAS THE WETLAND STUDY. WE DID HAVE A WETLAND STUDY DONE. UM, I DON'T BELIEVE

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YOU CAN PROVIDE MAGIC STAFF. AS FAR AS ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO YEAH, THAT. YES THAT HIGH POINT THAT, UM MR HIGGINBOTTOM SHOWED WAS AN ERROR THAT THAT IS NOT. THERE'S NOT A HIGH POINT. THAT IS A LOW POINT OF THE SITE. IT DOES DRAIN THERE. WE WEREN'T TRYING TO BE COY BY SAYING WE PUT PONDS AND LOW POINTS, BUT WE TENDED TO PUT PONDS AND IN LOW POINTS. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE PLANNING ON PUTTING A ONE OF OUR DETENTION BASINS. AND IT DOES DISCHARGE TO THE NATURAL LOW POINT ON THE SITE IN THAT AREA. PIPELINE. WE ARE AWARE OF THE PIPELINE. IT CURRENTLY DOES TRANSPORT GASOLINE. I BELIEVE WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE PIPELINE ER ABOUT THE REQUIREMENTS NECESSARY TO CROSS IT. WE HAVE NOTHING INT PIPELINE, UM, OTHER THAN ROADWAY CROSSINGS AND BIKE PATH PROCESS. PROCESS IN ORDER TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE. THERE'S NO BUILDINGS OR ROADWAYS ON TOP OF IT. OTHER THAN WHAT CROSSES IT. AND OBVIOUSLY UTILITY CROSSINGS WHEN WE GOT TO CROSS IT WITH SANITARY IN WATER AND STORM STORY, NO SUCH THINGS. MHM. HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND HAVE YOU ANSWER IT IS THAT GAS IS THERE OR THE PIPELINE? THE SAME ONE THAT GOES THROUGH GREEN PASTURES AND THE BORDER AREA. IT'S NOT. IT'S A DIFFERENT ONE. BUCKEYE PIPELINE GOES THROUGH GREEN PASTURES. THIS IS A SUNOCO LINE THAT WAS LOWERED AS PART OF THE 38.

LAUREN ONLY DID THAT A HANDFUL OF YEARS AGO, BUT THAT GOES THROUGH CLOSE TO THE LINKS. BUT IT GOES RIGHT THROUGH EWING MEADOWS. THERE'S DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS ACROSS IT, BUT ULTIMATELY, IT'S KEEP HOUSES 100 FT AWAY FROM IT BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T EASED, BUT THAT'S THERE AND THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS IS JUSTIN AND ALLUDED TO WITH ROAD CROSSINGS. YOU HAVE TO BUILD THEM UP, AND THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A PROPER AMOUNT OF COVER. RONAN YEAH, I APPRECIATE UM. WORKING IN UPDATING THAT TRAFFIC STUDY AFTER OUR DISCUSSION TWO WEEKS AGO AND ENCOURAGED TO HEAR, YOU KNOW ABOUT CONTRIBUTION TO FUTURE TRAFFIC ENHANCEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED, ESPECIALLY AT A COUPLE OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS. SO LOOKING FORWARD IS SAYING THAT THANK YOU ANY ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? I THINK I WANT TO ADD THE BEING IS WHERE THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS AT THIS POINT AND THE LACK OF FINDINGS FOR A WARRANT. UM I DON'T THINK YOU WILL FIND WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. A, YOU KNOW A DEFINITIVE ANSWER. TO THOSE, BUT WE RECOMMIT TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF AND, YOU KNOW, FIND THAT, UM, FIND THAT ULTIMATE SOLUTION THAT WE CAN BE A PARTY TO HELP WITH THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW. I ONLY HAD ONE COMMENT.

REALLY? ALL I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT YOU KNOW, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT CAME OUT TONIGHT AND SPEAK ABOUT THIS. AND YOU KNOW, I AM NOT SAYING THIS TO PUT A FEATHER IN MY CAP, BUT IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE SMALL TOWN AND YOU BELIEVE IN THESE ISSUES , THEN I WOULD ASK YOU TO NOT ONLY LOOK AT THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT CONFERENCE OF PLAN BUT THEN ASK COUNCIL. WHAT BUILDINGS DO THEY RECOMMEND FOREVER BEING PROTECTED FROM THE WRECKING BALL ? WHAT LAND SHOULD ALWAYS BE PROTECTED? WHAT IS THE IDENTITY OF MARYSVILLE? AND HOW ARE WE ACTUALLY PROTECTING THE SMALL TOWN? IT'S VERY EASY FOR EVERYBODY TO SAY. I LOVE THE SMALL TOWN. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE NO AESTHETICS THAT'S ACTUALLY PROTECTING THE SMALL TOWN. IT'S VERY HARD TO PROTECT IT. SO YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW AND AGAIN. I'M NOT SAYING THIS BUT A FEATHER IN MY CAP, BUT WE ALL CARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY AND HOW IT'S DEVELOPED SOME YOU KNOW, WE ALL LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT DIFFERENTLY , BUT I THINK I'M YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO AGREE THAT YOU KNOW DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE CAREFULLY LOOKED AT AND SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS WHEN YOU HEAR THINGS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO RAISE STANDARDS, AND I'M ONE OF THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT'S VERY FOCUS ON RAISING STANDARDS WHEN IT COMES TO LANDSCAPE, BUILDING THE SIGNS ALL THOSE THINGS. THEN WHEN YOU

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MAYBE AT LEAST THREE OF US ON COUNCIL HAS EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT FIRST READING MADE IT PRETTY LOUD AND CLEAR, AND YOU'VE ATTEMPTED TO ADDRESS THAT. SO WE STILL HAVE A LOT. WE HAVE A LOT TO LEARN A LOT UNDERSTAND? BEFORE WE'RE ABLE TO DRAW A CONCLUSION. UM WHAT, WHAT? THE TRAFFIC STUDIES. UM WILL RESOLVE IF THEY RESOLVE ENOUGH. SUFFICIENTLY SO GOOD POINT. I JUST WANTED TO RE EMPHASIZE THAT THAT THAT IS IT. A VERY BIG ISSUE. AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT NO. STANDARDS ANYMORE. I'M AT 19355 STATES TO 45. THIS. STILL WATER IS GOING ALL THE WAY AROUND ME YOUR NAME? WHAT'S YOUR NAME? DAVE MCCARTY. UM. THAT INTERSECT. I DON'T KNOW WHO COME UP WITH THAT. GET OUT FOR 33 TURN LEFT ONTO 45 TURNED BACK TO THE BREAK. THAT'S IT.

JOKE. AND THEN YOU GO WEST ON 33. THEY MISSED THAT. AND THE FIRST BLACKTOP DRIVEWAY. PAST.

33 WAIST. I GET A HALF A DOZEN A DAY. TURNAROUNDS BECAUSE THEY MISSED THAT. HOW YOU'RE GOING TO PUT 600 HOUSES OUT THERE. CAN'T HANDLE IT. THERE'S NOT THERE'S TWO OVERPASSES. 33 GOES OVER TO 45. EAST AND WEST. YOU CAN'T WIDEN IT. WITHOUT TAKING THE BRIDGE. SO ANY OF YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS IF YOU WOULD LIKE WELCOME MUNICH AMOUNT SITTING IN MY DRIVEWAY. AND DO YOUR OWN TRAFFIC STUDY. I HAVE DEALT WITH OH DOT MYSELF. I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO TELL ME. AND WHAT THEY TOLD ME. BUT EVIDENTLY STILLWATER FARM JUST GOT MORE THAN WHAT I'VE GOT, BECAUSE THEY SAID HE COULD PUT A STREET IN AND I COULDN'T PUT A DRIVEWAY IN SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I'M DENISE TWADDELL. UM. I LIVE AT 15605. PAPER BURNS RED, I'M REALLY NERVOUS. UM SPEAKING OF TRAFFIC SURVEYS. WE SAID AT THE CORNER. A PAPER BARNES ROOM AND COLLINS RIGHT NOW YOU CAN COME TO OUR PROPERTY. AND SEE WHERE SOMEBODY RAN COMPLETELY IN OUR YARD. AT LEAST 20. 20 YARDS, TORTURE ENGINEER A LONG WAYS INTO OUR PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE THE GROUP. STILL, IT'S BEEN WEEKS. THEY MISSED THE TELEPHONE POLE BARELY, AND THEY BARELY GOT OUT OF OUR YARD BEFORE THEY HIT OUR SEPTIC, SO THEY BARELY I MISSED THAT. THERE. IT'S LIKE A RACETRACK. YOU HAVE PEOPLE GOING UP COLLINS ROAD JUST LIKE THEIR DRAG RACING ALL THE TIME. I'VE HAD VEHICLES IN MY YARD WRECKED.

WE'VE HAD TO CALL THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THE PERSON WAS VERY DISORIENTED AND LOOKED VERY ANGRY. AND, UM. THAT WAS RIGHT AFTER WE MOVED IN THERE ACCIDENTS IN OUR YARD ALL THE TIME. WE GOT AN ADDITIONAL UMBRELLA POLICY. ON OUR HOME BECAUSE WE HAVE A POND AND WE DO NOT WANT ANYBODY WRECKING INTO OUR POND. I WOULD LIKE. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS RIGHT THERE. AT OUR CORNER. I HEAR A LOT ABOUT 2 45. ARTS SECTION IS REALLY BAD.

ALSO. AND EVERYBODY GOING TO SCHOOL. COMES UP OUR RUN. AND THEN CUTS OVER PAIN TO GET TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SO PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY THIS

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[COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL PERSONS AND GENERAL DISCUSSION]

SOME OF THEM ARE JUST IRREFUTABLE THINGS SO UM, THAT BEING SAID, I WILL TAKE A LOOK AND CONSIDER WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND MAKE A VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT. UM VOTE TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, SO I JUST WANTED TO COMMIT THAT TO EVERYONE HERE SO THAT BEING SAID, I HOPE EVERYONE IS ENJOYING THE COLDER WEATHER. THIS TIME OF YEAR IS MY FAVORITE TIME OF YEAR. SO ENJOY, UM, HAVE A GOOD HALLOWEEN. I THINK, ACTUALLY, THIS VOTE IS ON THE 24TH. RIGHT SO I'LL SEE YOU BEFORE HALLOWEEN BUT HAVE A GOOD HALLOWEEN ANYWAYS. THANK YOU.

OKAY OKAY. I ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM OF BUSINESS. UM TIM, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UM ON OCTOBER 17TH NEXT MONDAY. WE HAVE FINANCE COMMITTEE IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD LAST TIME, WHICH IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE SEPTEMBER FINANCIALS. LAST TIME WE SPENT ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF ALREADY DID RECEIVE A COPY FROM THAT. AND THEY LOOK VERY SIMILAR UNTIL ONE DATE. DO WE HAVE TO CANCEL THE MEETING? IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? FOR THE DATE. MR HAS BEEN ADVERTISED AS IT. OKAY SO THAT'S UM IF YOU MAKE THE DECISION THURSDAY OF FRIDAY, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? YES OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO UM, ALAN, AND IF WE CAN COMMUNICATE BY THURSDAY OF FRIDAY, AND WE MADE THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING ON THIS, YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU SAW IN A MINUTE. SO UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU SAW INDEPENDENCE, ALS THAT YOU THINK WARRANTS, OF COURSE TO GET TOGETHER. I WILL GIVE IT THAT HARD THOUGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH ALREADY. THAT WAS ALL JUST AS MINOR SINCE FINANCES . ALSO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. YOU THEN REVIEW TO MONTHLY REPORTS THE FOLLOWING MEETING THAT IS CORRECT. YES. YEAH. MM HMM.

WEDNESDAY. OKAY? PEOPLE SIMPLE MIND. THANK YOU. J R. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT. ALSO KNOW THE SET WELL, SIX TONIGHT, SEVEN, USUALLY LAND USE DECISIONS ARE ALWAYS THE TOUGHEST FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. UH, YOUR FRIENDS, FAMILY NEIGHBORS. WE KNOW YOU.

UM. AND WE'VE GOT TO MAKE THE DECISION FOR THE WHAT WE THINK IS BEST FOR THE ENTIRE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. UM WHAT I REALLY WANT TO BRING UP IS HOW PROFESSIONAL EVERYBODY SPOKE

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AS MR SEYMOUR SAID. IF IT'S ENOUGH HEADWAY OR NOT, WE DON'T KNOW. UM BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE. GOING FORWARD, BUT I APPRECIATE THE DEMEANOR OF EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM. HMM AND I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH A COUPLE OF YOU OUTSIDE OF THE ROOM. I APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU SPEAK TO ME AND OFFER YOUR OPINIONS. I VALUE THEM. AND THEY ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. SO. THAT'S WHY WE LIVE HERE IN MARYSVILLE. THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN LIKE THIS EVERYWHERE. WE GOT TO JUST WATCH THE NEWS AT 11 O'CLOCK AND YOU SEE A MEETING LIKE THIS WHERE PEOPLE ARE YELLING, SCREAMING, HOLLERING, AND THE POLICE HAVE TO ESCORT PEOPLE OUT. UM THAT'S NOT MARY. SO, SO. THANK YOU. JR DONALD. UM I'LL JUST MAKE IT REALLY, REALLY, UH QUICK THIS WEEK, AND CITY STAFF WAS THERE AND I WAS GRATEFUL TO SEE THEM PARTICIPATE IN IT. BUT HERE HERE TO OHIO DID A CONFERENCE AND MYSELF AND ANOTHER GENTLEMAN WHO ALSO HE HAS 15 YEARS MORE EXPERIENCE, AND I DO. HIS NAME IS AARON. HE'S OUT OF TIFFIN, OHIO, AND NOW HE'S IN THEIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RIGHT ON THE SAME KIND OF PLATFORM AS I DID SO SEEING YOUNG YOUNG PEOPLE ALL ACROSS THE NATION RUN ON THIS RUN ON THE SAME STANCE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW THE WORLD'S BIG SO YOU DON'T ALWAYS FEEL ALONE WHEN YOU LOOK OUTSIDE YOUR WINDOW, RIGHT? SO BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW A LOT. THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD CLASSES, A LOT OF GOOD STUFF. AND ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO BRING THE COUNCIL WAS THAT URBAN A URBANA, OHIO? WHICH I HAVE BEEN STUDYING IT, BUT THEY GOT RECOGNIZED DURING HOW HERITAGE OHIO SO THROUGH THE STATE OF OHIO, THE PRESERVATION EFFORTS UM YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW THAT THE GOVERNOR IS GETTING READY BECAUSE YOU KNOW FROM OHIO , SO HE'S PUTTING MONEY INTO PRESERVATION. MORE AND MORE AND DOING A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT HERITAGE. OHIO WAS ABLE TO PARTNER WITH URBANA, AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO SAY BOTH OF THEIR SCHOOLS IN THEIR ORIGINAL SCHOOLS IN THEIR CITY AND THEIR HOTEL. IN THEIR DOWNTOWN, AND WHAT MAKES THAT UNIQUE IS THAT THEY USE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION TAX CREDITS TO SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR SENIOR CITIZENS. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE NOTION THAT PRESERVING HISTORICAL BUILDINGS IF WE HAVE THE RIGHT CHANNELS AND THE RIGHT PERSONNEL WHO UNDERSTAND HOW TO USE STOICAL TAX CREDITS, UNDERSTAND WHAT PRESERVATION MEANS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, YOU CAN CREATE WONDERFUL GEMS IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND THEN ALSO PROTECTS SMALL TOWN IDENTITY. UM SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S RIGHT RIGHT IN OUR BACK DOOR. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE COMMUNITIES AROUND US THAT ARE PRESERVING STRUCTURES AND USING THEM IN A MEANINGFUL WAY. AND WE TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW, AFFORDABILITY. YOU KNOW, IT'S A WORD THAT PEOPLE USE NOW. A LOT . UM BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, IT'S AFFORDABLE FOR ALL INCOME LEVELS. SO YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE THINK IF I CAN'T AFFORD THAT NOBODY SHOULD AFFORD THAT. AND AS A CITY POINT, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT FROM WHAT'S AFFORDABLE TO EVERYBODY AND A LOT OF THESE SENIOR CITIZENS. LET'S SAY WHO HAVE WORKED THEIR WHOLE LIVES, YOU KNOW? SADLY AS WE ALL KNOW, OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS YOU KNOW, THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING KEEPS GOING UP AND PEOPLE JUST YOU KNOW, THEY MADE MONEY IN A LIFETIME. IT'S JUST NOT AFFORDABLE TO THEM AS OF RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS WHY PEOPLE ARE WORKING LATER IN LIFE. SO ANYWAY , THANK YOU ALL AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. AS WE ALL KNOW, CENTRAL OHIO IS AMONG THE FASTEST GROWING IN THE COUNTRY. AND WERE REMOVED FROM THE CITY, OR AT LEAST WE HAVE BEEN. WE HAVEN'T BEEN SUCKED IN, LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE, HOWEVER , WE KNOW IT'S APPROACHING US, AND WE'RE DEALING WITH CHALLENGES EVERY DAY. AND THIS PROJECT RIGHT HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THOSE, SO THEY'RE VERY TOUGH DECISIONS. AS JR POINTED OUT, AND REZONING. IS A COMPLICATED ISSUE BECAUSE IT IMPACTS SO MANY THOSE ON THE PERIMETER. THOSE WITHIN THE DESIGNATED AREAS IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR REZONING. IT'S COMPLICATED AND IT'S TOUGH. AND, UH AND. THERE WAS SOME SLEEP THAT'S LOST ON UNDER THOSE KINDS OF DECISIONS ONCE IN A WHILE, BUT THE POINT IS STAGNATION. WE

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[Executive Session]