Oct 24, 2022 City Council

[CALL TO ORDER]

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COUNCIL. PLEDGING ALLEGIANCE, OKAY? YES. OKAY? YEAH. GOD WE ASK YOU GUYS THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MARRIAGE BILL AND CITIZENS. SEYMOUR PRESIDENT, WROTE PRESIDENT DONALD BURGER HERE CREAMS, JR. ROUSH AND KIRBY CARPENTER, PRESIDENT. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER. 10TH ARE

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES: October 10, 2022 Minutes]

[SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT]

[ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]

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IF YOU WANT TO WALK IT, RUN IT. WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, MARK, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO? YOU GONNA RUN IT? COULD BE COULD BE OKAY. YOU KNOW, I WAS CLEANING OUT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND I THINK I FOUND THIS OLD BOX AT JOHN GORE LEFT AND LOOKED LIKE A BRAND NEW PAIR OF SHOES AND NEVER GOT WARNED. THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. YOU NEED TO YOU NEED TO BE IN IT. I THINK SANTA CLAUS DELIVERED THOSE. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. UM. YOU KNOW, AND RIGHT AROUND THE SAME TIME SOON THEREAFTER COMING UP IS OUR CHRISTMAS WALKING TREE LIGHTING . BRING YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS UP COUNT ON NOVEMBER 28TH. 58 PM TO ENJOY CHILDREN'S ACTIVITIES. DANCERS CAROLERS, FESTIVE TREAT SHOPPING DISCOUNTS, CARRIAGE RIDES, VISITS WITH SANTA AND THE ANNUAL CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING AT SIX PM AT PARTNERS PARK, SO THAT WILL BE, UM, NOVEMBER 28 COMING UP, THEN RIGHT BEHIND THAT. IS GOING TO BE AGAIN ARE MARIANNE MAIN ICE SKATING, THERE'LL BE ICE LESS ICE SKATING PARTNERS PARK STARTING DECEMBER 10TH AND RUNNING THROUGH JANUARY , 2ND WILL BE POSTING SPECIFIC HOURS FOR THAT ACTIVITY, WHICH IS ALWAYS BEEN A VERY POPULAR EVENT. UH AND THEN INCLUDED IN DURING THAT TIME FRAME. THERE'LL BE VISITS WITH SANTA ON THURSDAY EVENINGS AND SATURDAYS, UM THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF DECEMBER . SO THURSDAY EVENINGS AND SATURDAYS AT SANTA'S HOUSE AT PARTNERS PARK, THOSE WILL BE TAKING PLACE AS WELL. SO A LOT OF THINGS COMING UP OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS IN WILL CONTINUE TO REMIND AND HAVE THINGS OUT IN SOCIAL MEDIA ON ALL THESE ACTIVITIES, AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO. I BELIEVE JEREMY. JEREMY, YOU'VE GOT THE NEXT GROUP. THANKS, TERRY. GIVING YOU GUYS SOME UPDATES ON WHAT OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS CREWS ARE WORKING ON THE STREETS DEPARTMENT. THEY'RE PREDOMINANTLY WORKING ON LEAVE CLEAN UP AROUND THE CITY. FROM A PARKS PERSPECTIVE, THE BUTTERFLY PARK PLAYGROUND PROJECT STARTING THIS WEEK AND SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THE WEEK. CREWS ARE ALSO WORKING TO FINALIZE THE WINTERIZATION OF MANY OF OUR RESTROOMS. WATER WISE WATER WILL BE ADDED TO THE JEROME TOWNSHIP WATER TOWER THIS WEEK AND SYSTEM WIDE FLUSHING AND VALVE EXERCISING WILL ALSO BE OCCURRING. AND THEN MY FINAL UPDATE BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO KYLE RAYMOND ROAD IS CLOSED AT THE CSX RAILROAD TRACKS FROM TODAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY AS A PART OF SOME WORK THAT ONE OF CSX HAS CONTRACTORS IS DOING AT THE TRACK SO MUCH NEEDED AFTER

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[PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT]

NO. AND WE HAD ANOTHER EXTERIOR PLAN FOR AN APPLICATION OF A 55,000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE WAREHOUSE BUILDING IN THE MANUFACTURING INNOVATION ZONING DISTRICT OFF OF INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY. ALSO APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS FIVE. YES. ZERO. NO. WE HAVE A APPLICATION FOR EXTERIOR PLAN FOR A NEW BIGBY COFFEE LOCATED OFF OF STATE ROUTE 31 DON DRIVE NORTH IN THE COOK'S POINT P U D APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS FIVE. YES ZERO. NO ANOTHER EXTERIOR PLAN. LANDSCAPE PLAN APPLICATION FOR BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS AT 6 40. COLEMAN'S CROSSING, WHICH IS A HONDA, MARYSVILLE. AND THAT IS IN THE REGIONAL MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT. THIS WAS ALSO APPROVED . FIVE YES. ZERO NO. AND THE LAST ITEM FOR DRB WAS AN APPLICATION FOR THE PROPOSED NEW MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. UM IN THE BLOCK OF 700 TO 800 OF COLEMAN'S CROSSING, JUST ADJACENT TO THE WALMART THERE. THIS WAS APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS FIVE. YES. ZERO. NO.

THAT COMPLETES OUR DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AGENDA. OKAY THANK YOU. OH SORRY I MISSED HEARING OF

[HEARING OF CITIZENS]

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TAKE CARE OF THEM. I MEAN, SOMETHING HAS GOT TO BE DONE IN MARYSVILLE. I AM JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE. LIKE I SAID, I BEEN TAKING CARE OF THESE STRAY CATS, KITTENS AND STUFF FOR THE LAST 56 YEARS. AND WITH THAT. I MEAN, THE HUMANE SOCIETY HAS GOT TO DO SOMETHING . THEIR TENURE AGENDA IS MORE ON THE DOT DOG ASPECT THAN THE CATS. AND THEY'VE TOLD ME THAT SO WE NEED TO GET SOMEONE IN THERE. THERE'S GONNA ALSO TAKE CARE OF CATS BESIDE DOGS AND HELP THE COMMUNITY. SO. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. PAY HIM PAY HIM. I HAVE A QUESTION. HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY ABOUT SPAY NEUTER PROGRAM FOR FERAL CATS AND WHAT KIND OF RESPONSE THAT THEY HAVE . IF THEY TELL ME I CAN BE PUT ON A WAIT LIST, AND THEN WHEN I GET IN THEN I CAN PAY FOR THE FERAL CATS AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY FOR A FERAL CAT. TO TAKE CARE OF. I MEAN, I MIGHT TAKE CARE AND FEED THE CATS, BUT THAT'S NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY, OKAY? THANK YOU QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY WE'LL MOVE ON TO

[Res. A]

ARE THERE ANY COUNCIL COMMENTS? CONDITIONS. CITIZEN COMMENTS. EMOTIONAL PASS, MR PRESIDENT WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PASS RESOLUTION A OKAY, WE'LL CALL MR BURBEY. YES MR CARPENTER? YES SEYMOUR. MRS. GROAT YES, MR BERGER? YES MR REEMS. MR ROUCH? YES SEVEN YEARS. MOTION CARRIESD THAT RESOLUTION BE MIGHT HAVE YES. WELL IT'S IT WOULD JUST BE A ONE READING RESOLUTION BECAUSE ANY ANY FUNDS THAT WE HAVE TO EXPEND IS OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE PROGRAM. IT DOES MENTION THAT WE HAVE TO EXPEND FUNDS THAT ARE PART OF THE PROGRAM. BUT THAT'S THAT'S UNDERSTOOD.

[Res. B ]

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ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS. WHAT TONIGHT? WE'RE PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT AND TO CITY COUNCIL. THE NEXT FOUR ORDINANCES ARE ASSOCIATED WITH OUR 2023 BUDGET. AND SO THE FIRST BEING TO ADAPT THE CAPITAL BUDGET, THE NEXT ONE TO ADOPT THE ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET AND THE ONE AFTER THAT TO ADOPT THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS AND THEN AFTER THAT, TO AMEND OUR OWN IT FOR 24 ANNUAL COMPENSATION FOR ALL CITY EMPLOYEES. SO, UM. WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY. TONIGHT IS FIRST OFF, UM, HUGE AMOUNT OF THANKS TO BRAD LUTES AND HIS STAFF IN THEIR WORK AND PREPARATION OF BUDGETS THAT I KNOW THEY GOT TO CITY COUNCIL LAST WEEK. I WANT TO THANK THE FINANCE COMMITTEE FOR THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE AND IN WORKING WITH US UP TO THIS POINT, I ALSO WANT CITY COUNCIL AND NO IT'S A LARGE DOCUMENT, AND YOU JUST RECEIVED IT WITHIN THE LAST FEW DAYS. WE'VE GOT THREE WEEKS TO OUR NEXT MEETING. I WANT YOU TO FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE. TAKE YOUR TIME. LOOK THROUGH THE BUDGET SET UP TIMES TO COME IN AND SIT DOWN WITH BRAD AND I AND WE CAN STEP YOU THROUGH DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE BUDGET. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT TOO LATE. WE CAN MAKE MODIFICATIONS. IF WE SEE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO ADJUST. SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO FEEL. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GIVING IT A FIRST READING TONIGHT. BRAD HAPPENS TO BE ON VACATION, AND I AND I KNOW SANDY HOOVER, OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF FINANCE IS ILL SO SHE COULD. SHE COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT IT'S AN AWESOME BUDGET. AS IT SAYS IN MY LETTER AT MEETS HIS STRATEGIC GOALS IN THE DIRECTION SET BY COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION. AND PROVIDES A CLEAR AND VIABLE WORK PLAN FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR . AND SO IT'S REALLY I THINK A SOLID BUDGET BUT KEEP IN MIND.

WE ALSO KNOW THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT YOU SEE THAT YOU MAY WANT TO ADJUST A LITTLE BIT AS YOU GO THROUGH IT. FEEL FREE TO SET UP TIME TO SIT DOWN WITH US, AND WE'D BE GLAD TO DO SO. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THIS EVENING. THAT'S GREAT. BUT WE CAN WORK THROUGH THESE AND WE HAVE THREE WEEKS UNTIL THE SECOND READING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY COUNCIL QUESTIONS TONIGHT. OKAY, SO, AS TERRY SAID, WE HAVE A FEW WEEKS BEFORE THE SECOND READING, PLEASE TAKE TIME WITH THROUGH THIS DOCUMENT AND ALL THE BUDGET MATERIALS WILL BRING THIS BACK FOR DISCUSSION IN ANY QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, BETWEEN NOW AND THEN GET WITH TERRY OR BRAINIEST DIRECTOR. OR EVEN ARE FINDING THIS CHAIR AND TALK ABOUT THAT IS I WANT TO LOVE MAC. NO TO MAC WILL KEEP YOU UP TO ON ON THINGS AS WE NAVIGATE THROUGH THE BUDGET, SO WE'LL KEEP IN THE LOOP. OKAY THIS WOULD BE BACK FOR A SECOND READING ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 14TH. ORDINANCE BE

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ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS NOTHING FURTHER COUNSEL. THIS WALL SHOULD BE BACK FOR A SECOND

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JUST THE FOURTH PIECE OF LEGISLATION RELATED TO THE BUDGET. THIS WILL BE BACK AGAIN

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[Ord. F ]

MR PRESIDENT MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. POINT SECOND READING. WE WAIVE THE THIRD MEETING LAST WEEK. LAST TIME IT CAN'T ROLL CALL MRS GROAT. YES MR BERGER? YES YES.

YES MR BURBEY. YES MR CARPENTER . MR SEYMOUR? YES SEVEN. YES OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. ORDINANCE

[Ord. G]

HM? HI I'M JUSTIN WALLENBERG WITH TRAIN EVOLUTION, THE ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT. TONIGHT WITH US HIGHLANDER REAL ESTATE MARINI LOW BIG AND, UH, IN MAGLIE WAS G TWO AND G TO PLANNING AND DESIGN. HIS THIRD READING MOST OF THIS YOU'VE SEEN ALREADY SO GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE SLIDES SOMEWHERE QUICKLY, BUT GET TO THE MEAT OF WHAT SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT

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ONE IN THE CENTER WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY AND ONE IN THE AREA OF HOMES AND THEN YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY CENTER IN THE MIDDLE. I'M JUST STRESSED THAT THERE ARE COMMUNITY AMENITIES THAT ARE WITHIN THE HALF A MILE DIAMETER THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING. HIGHLAND HAD REGION AH MIX TO AN ECONOMIC STUDY. FOR THE PROJECT. AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE STATS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT OBVIOUSLY CITY OF MARYSVILLE WHEN COLLECTING PROPERTY TAX $245,000 PER YEAR ESTIMATED FROM 2030 AND BEYOND ALL JURISDICTIONS, INCLUDING PARIS TOWNSHIP, UNION COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL COLLECT ABOUT $3.2 MILLION STARTING IN 2030 AND BEYOND. AS WE BUILD OUT OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, YOU KNOW, BUILD UP TO THAT. TO THAT DOLLAR FIGURE. ESTIMATED INCOME TAX FOR MARY'S SPECIFICALLY AROUND $800,000 A YEAR STARTING IN 29 SUBSEQUENT YEARS. AND UTILITY CAPACITY FEES AND UTILITY CHARGES OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS. ONE TIME FEES OF $8.3 MILLION ESTIMATED AND ANNUAL FEES FOR FERTILITY SERVICES ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

WELL, THINGS CAME UP. IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSION WAS DISCUSSION ON WETLANDS. WE DID HAVE WETLAND STUDY PERFORMED, UM USUALLY STARTS OFF WITH JUST A PREVIEW. THEN WE HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTISTS GO OUT . TAKE A LOOK AT THE SITE. WHAT THE SITE, TAKE THEIR SOIL SAMPLES AND PREPARE A PRELIMINARY JURISDICTIONAL WATERS DETERMINATION. THAT IS THEN SUBMITTED TO THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, AND IT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE ARMY CORPS, BUT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED BACK TO VERIFICATION YET. ONCE THAT'S DETERMINED THOSE WILL BE RECORDED THE ONLY ENTITY THAT CAN CERTIFY THAT THEIR WETLANDS AND STREAMS JURISDICTIONAL STREAMS INSIGHT. HERE'S WHAT THAT REPORT PRODUCED WHAT THEY FOUND ON SITE. THERE ARE A

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STORMWATER MANAGEMENT WAS ANOTHER ITEM THAT CAME UP DURING THOSE DISCUSSIONS. WE EVALUATED THE EXISTING BREAKPOINTS, THE FLOOR PATH AND SOIL TYPES, EXISTING VEGETATION THAT SORT OF THING TO DETERMINE THE PEAK RUNOFF FROM THE SITE AND THE SPEAKER OFF IN THE ONE YEAR AND THE. IN THE PRE DEVELOPED AND THE POST DEVELOPED. COMPARE THOSE TWO. THAT IS WHAT THE. THE CRITICAL STORM IS AND SO THAT TELLS US WHAT ARE ALLOWABLE RELEASE RATES ARE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN UP HERE. YOU SEE THE EXISTING TRIBUTARY. FOR THE MOST PART, THE SITE. AS A DRAINAGE DIVIDE BETWEEN MILL CREEK AND THE DERBY WATERSHEDS ROUGHLY RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE.

THOSE AREAS WERE. EVALUATED WE HAVE SOME AREAS THAT COME ONTO THE SITE AND THEN DISCHARGE HERE. WE HAVE A DISCHARGE INTO THE EXISTING BASIN, AND THEN WE HAVE A DISCHARGE INTO THIS, UH SOUTHWEST CORNER. IN THE PROPOSED CONDITION ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN. WE'RE VERY CLOSELY MONITORING AND HONORING THOSE TRIBUTARIES AREAS. WE WILT STORM WATER AND RELEASES IT AT A RATE THAT IS BELOW AT OR BELOW THE EXISTING RATES. AND INTO THE SAME WATER SAYS THAT THEY WERE BEFORE. TRAFFIC WOULD SAY WAS THE BIGGEST DISCUSSION ITEM. THAT HAS HAD COME UP IN THE LAST FEW MEETINGS. TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY HAS BEEN PROVIDES TWICE INITIAL AND REVISED TWO TIMES SUBMITTED AGAIN TO OH, DOT WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF, UM THE STUDY TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY OUTLINED YOU KNOW, IMPACTS THAT THE DEVELOPERS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR 385 FT. LEFT TURN LANE AT HER ENTRANCE. 345 FT. LEFT TURN LANE ONTO THE WESTBOUND RAMP FOR US, 33. 150 FT. TURN RIGHT TURN LANE ONTO NORTHWEST PARKWAY FROM 2 45.

THIS MAP SHOWS WHERE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE AND AGAIN REITERATES. WHAT'S UH, WHAT'S REQUIRED AT EACH ONE OF THOSE WE HAVE A RIGHT TURN LANE HERE IN ORDER TO ALLOW RIGHT TURNS WHICH ARE BY FAR THE MOST TURNING MOVEMENTS AT THAT INTERSECTION TO BYPASS ANYBODY THAT WOULD BE SITTING WAITING TO TURN LEFT AT THAT INTERSECTION. AND OUR TALENTS THAT WE TOOK ONLY HAD THREE CARS IN THE PEAK HOUR. TURNING LEFT AT THAT INTERSECTION. WHAT WE HAD. GOOD NUMBER MORE TURNING RIGHT? AND THEN HERE'S THE RAMP FOR HMM. THE ON RAMP TO 33 WESTBOUND.

THAT'S WHERE THE 345 FT LEFT TURN. LANE WOULD BE AND THEN THE 305 FT. LEFT TURN LINE INTO STILLWATER FARMS AND GIVEN THE PROXIMITY OF THOSE TWO IMPROVEMENTS. BE REQUIRED TO HAVE THREE LANE SECTION IN BETWEEN THOSE, UM THE IMPROVEMENT BETWEEN THOSE BECAUSE OF THEIR PROXIMITY AND HOW THE TEACHERS WOULD OVERLAP. HMM. SO OTHER FINDINGS OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY. WE HAD 22 OPTIONS WITHIN THE STUDY, THE ONE THAT WE FOCUS THE MOST TIME WAS THE ONE WITH THE SCHOOL BECAUSE THE SCHOOL IS MOST LIKELY THE ONE TO BE IN THAT COMMERCIAL AREA. THAT'S WHAT ALTERNATE ONE WAS. AND THE FINDINGS THAT WAS AT 2 45 NORTHWEST PARKWAY. OTHER RIGHT TURN LANE TO CORRECT THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE. NO TRAFFIC LIGHT WAS WARRANTED AT THAT INTERSECTION. NO TRAFFIC LIGHT WAS WARRANTED AT THE INTERSECTION OF NORTHWEST PARKWAY IN 33 G. AND THEN BECAUSE THE SCHOOL HAS A 10 YEAR OPTION ON THAT GROUND, IF BY CHANCE, THEY DON'T BUILD THERE AND A COMMERCIAL PERMITTED USES DESIRED, WE WOULD HAVE TO REDO A STUDY FOR THAT COMMERCIAL AREA. SO AT THE INTERSECTION OF, UH, NORTHWEST PARKWAY AND US 33 WESTBOUND. THE PROJECT HAS A IN 2043 SO THAT THE 20 YEAR HORIZON OF THE STUDY AS A 24% IMPACT OF

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STOP CONDITION WOULD BE 1 33.2, BUT WITH THE TRAFFIC LIGHT, THEIR AVERAGE WAIT TIME TO BE 20.6 SECONDS. SO WITH WITH 16.3 CARS AS THE ANTICIPATED LOW THAT WOULD COME UP TO THERE. WHICH WOULD STACK ABOUT 400 FT. WE HAVE ABOUT 435 FT OF STACKING ON THAT RAMP AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW, AND HE SAYS EXISTING CONDITIONS. SO TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE SOLVES THE ISSUES THAT ARE BEING REALIZED AT THAT LOCATION AND WOULD DECREASE INCREASE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FROM F TO A C LEVEL OF SERVICE, WHICH IS AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL SERIES. THE QUESTION WAS ASKED BEFORE WHAT COULD HAPPEN WITH THE NEXT DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD COME ALONG IF ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS AT THIS, UM. EXIT RAMP OR OR NECESSARY. THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE UM, THROUGH DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF ON SOME OTHER OPTIONS THAT COULD BE. THIS IS ONE THAT ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF A DISCUSSION WITHOUT DOT THAT ADDITIONAL STACKING LANE COULD BE PLACED THERE. NOW ADDITIONAL STOCKING LINK CANNOT BE PLACED WITHOUT A SIGNAL SO INTERESTING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE INSTALLED HERE AS WELL. AND WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO THE SIGNAL. SO THAT OUR PROPOSAL FOR THE TRAFFIC MITIGATION IS. ONE INSTALL ALL OF THE OUTLINED ITEMS. THE 3 85 FT LEFT TURN LINE, THE 3 45 LEFT TURN LINE IMPROVEMENTS BETWEEN THOSE AND 150 FT. TURN LINE AT NORTHWEST PARKWAY WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT TIMING TO BE WITH THE FIRST PHASE. ESTIMATED COST OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AT THIS TIME, OR $1.5 MILLION TO $2 MILLION. SO WE WOULD BE INSTALL THOSE WITH OUR FIRST SINCE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE PROPOSE DEPOSITING AN ESCROW $500,000. TO FUND THE TRAFFIC LIGHT. UM TRAGICALLY LEAVES THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE SEEING IN 2043. THE TIMING OF THAT WOULD BE WOULD DEPOSIT THAT WITH THE AH ENGINEERING APPROVALS, ZONING APPROVALS BEFORE CONSTRUCTION BEGINS ON STORE FARMS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE AGREED TO A TRAFFIC IMPACT FEE OF $785 PER UNIT TO BE USED IN THIS CORRIDOR. AND. THE CORRIDOR WOULD BE ALONG STATE ROUTE 2 45 TO NORTHWEST PARKWAY ALONG NORTHWEST PARKWAY FROM THE INTERCHANGE THROUGH THE LIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT AT. DAMASCUS I BELIEVE THIS IS WHERE WE DETERMINED THAT SHOULD THAT SHOULD END. AND THEN ALSO POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS IF A CONNECTION IS MADE TOWARDS COLLINS. AT SOME LATER DATE THAT THAT THAT FUNDS COULD BE USED TO IMPROVE MAKE IMPROVEMENTS IN COLLINS. CONNECTIVITY TO THE SOUTH OF COLLINS RIGHT NOW. NOT POSSIBLE WITH WITH THE OWNERSHIP OF THE LAND. WE'VE GOTTEN THE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL. FROM THE IRWIN FARMS AND IF THEY EVER DECIDE TO SELL THAT THE THAILAND WOULD HAVE RIGHT AT FIRST REFUSED. SO WE WOULD ANTICIPATE A CONNECTION SHOWN, YOU KNOW ON THIS PLANE DOESN'T SHOW THAT AT THE MOMENT, BUT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THE CONNECTION. SOMEWHERE IN THIS AREA IN ORDER TO STUB OVER TO THE IRWIN FARMS

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LONG. SO YEAH. LET'S GO BACK DOWN HERE. THIS IS THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE OUT THERE NOW. THAT REGENERATES A LITTLE BIT BETTER. GET TO ANOTHER ONE. I BELIEVE I HAVE A SLIGHTLY BETTER IMAGE.

HERE WE GO. SO WHAT YOU HAVE OUT THERE NOW IS ROUGHLY 435 FT FROM THE STOP BAR. TO THE END OF THAT, RIGHT AT THE END OF THAT STACKING LINE AND WHAT YOU WOULD END UP WITH, UM IF NO STOPLIGHT IS THERE AND THAT STACKING IS ALLOWED TO OCCUR. WHAT STACK BACK UP INTO THE RAMP FOR ROOT.

FOR THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO AVOID. THIS IS WHY WE'RE PROPOSING A SIGNAL AT THIS INTERSECTION. WITH THE SIGNAL. BEEN 2043 THE EXTENT OF THE SECOND BECAUSE THEY'RE ABLE TO WERE ABLE TO CLEAR THE QUEUE IN TIME. WE WOULDN'T STACK BEYOND THE EXISTING LANE FOR THE STUDY.

AND THE REASON THAT AFFECTS 2 45. IS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF LEFT TURNS OFF OF THAT RAN TO GO INTO TOWN. WHICH CREATES THIS THIS ROOM DOESN'T DIRECTLY IMPACT TO 45 BUT IMPACTS NORTHWEST PARKWAY FOR SURE. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN NORTHWEST PARKWAY TO WHERE TRAFFIC GOES INTO TOWN, WHICH BLOCKS TRAFFIC GETTING OFF TO 45 CORRECT TO WAIT FOR A WINDOW TO OPEN UP IN ORDER TO MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN AND WITH THE INCREASED NUMBER OF CARS. THAT'S WHERE THE INCREASED, UM INCREASED. WAIT TIME FROM COMING UP TO A POINT WHERE YOU STOP IN THE QUEUE TO THE POINT WHERE YOU CLEAR THE QUEUE. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH 31 SECONDS TODAY. 50 SECONDS AND 2043 WITHOUT STILL WATER TRAFFIC LIGHT CREATES A STOPPING POINT FOR TRAFFIC TO RELIEVE THE ENTIRE QUEUE TO BE CLEARED. IF THAT MAKES SENSE. IN A NORMAL ON A NORMAL TRAFFIC LIGHT. IF YOU'RE TURNING LAUGHED, LIKE REALISTICALLY LIKE, UM SOMETIMES I DRAG AROUND AND EVENINGS AROUND TOWN TO SEE HOW THE TRAFFIC IS AND LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, LOVE OUT THERE WHERE YOU GET OFF 33. UM OVER THERE BY WAR LOWS IS OFF THE FREEWAY THAT RAMP BACKS UP QUITE A WAYS UP THE FREEWAY BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE USE THAT INTERSECTION.

AND I WOULD SAY PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I JUST SOMETIMES I COUNT LIKE YOU'RE GETTING FIVE CARS AND A TIME THAT MIGHT GET SO YOU KNOW. IT'S GOOD. BE INTERESTING TO SEE LIKE WHAT THAT LIGHT HOW MANY CARS COULD ACTUALLY GET OFF AND TURN LEFT? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'RE BECAUSE YOU'RE AFRAID OF RED WHITE AND YOU TURN GREEN. REALISTICALLY WE'VE ALL BEEN AT A GREEN LIGHT. YOU'RE NOT GETTING LIKE 30 CARS OUT OF THAT SECTION AT ONE TIME , REALLY ALL BASED ON HOW IT'S TIMED AS WELL. UM INTERESTING ABOUT THIS. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE COUNTS FOR THIS, WE HAVE ALMOST DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF CARS COMING GETTING OFF THE RAMP DURING THE PEAK HOUR, WHICH IS WHAT WE EVALUATE. UM AS YOU DO CARS GOING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION ON NORTHWEST PARKWAY. IT'S ABOUT 609 CARS COMING THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION IN THE BUILD CONDITION, UM VERSUS LESS THAN 300, YOU KNOW, GOING ON NORTHWEST PARKWAY, OR WE'LL CALL IT EAST AND WEST THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION. SO MY ANTICIPATION DON'T TYPICALLY DESIGNED STREETLIGHTS FOR THEIR TIMING. I DON'T DO THAT MYSELF. BUT THIS ONE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A LONGER GREEN THAN IT HAS A RED BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH TRAFFIC ON NORTHWEST PARKWAY THAT YOU'RE IMPEDING. WE'LL SEE IT. I DON'T HAVE IT SHOWN UP HERE AT THE MOMENT, BUT THE ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID LOOK AT WAS AROUND ABOUT AS A AS AN OPTION FOR HERE. ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE

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CONSIDERATION. BUT. BUT YOU HEARD THE DISCUSSIONS. WE HAD APPARENTLY WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD TO LOOK SOLUTIONS. THAT'S A. I CAN SEE WHERE IT WILL ALLOW THE TRAFFIC TO KEEP MOVING BY CREATING THAT. THAT. THAT'S STOPPING POINT TO OUR. TO ALLOW THE STACKING TO CLEAR THE STACKING DECLARE OFF TO 45 TAKING RIGHT INTO TOWN AS TO YOUR POINT IS NOT A LOT OF LEFT HERE TURNS OF THAT LOCATION. THAT'S. THAT'S THAT'S GOTTA. YEAH AND BASED ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY, YOU DON'T EXPECT MUCH TRAFFIC TO COME OUT OF STILLWATER FARMS AND GO LEFT ONTO 45. I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT MONTHS OLD. BUT I THINK YOU HAD 27. LEFT TURNS FROM 2 45 TO, UM PAPER. BARNES PKM. I DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. BUT THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT. BUT I DO HAVE A THE PATIO HOMES. HOW MANY BEDS. BEDROOMS ARE IN THOSE TYPICALLY TWO TO BECAUSE IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY THE ACT OF OLDER UNITS DON'T ACCOUNT FOR ANY CHILDREN GOING TO THE TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BUT ONLY THE TOWN HOMES AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WERE INCLUDED IN THAT. 132 PATIO HOMES WEREN'T INCLUDED IN THAT. MY BLESSING. YEAH FOR YOU. BECAUSE BECAUSE THERE'S SO I WENT BACK AND REDID THE CALCULATION. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ABOUT 31 KIDS THAT WILL BE GOING TO BUNS OLD SO 27 IN THE MORNING MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. UM BUT I THINK THAT NUMBER MIGHT ACTUALLY BE CLOSER TO 40 45. BUT NOW YOU'RE AT 40 TRIPS. UM. AND WE I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE, UM NUMBER OF TRIPS GOING AND THEN MAKING A RIGHT ONTO PAPER. BARNES WAS.

BUT WE DON'T EXPECT TO NEED TO MAKE ANY IMPROVEMENTS AT 2 45 AND PAPER BARNES BECAUSE OF THE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, CORRECT. BUT IT'S THAT I GUESS TO CANON. GO A LITTLE FURTHER ON THAT QUESTION, SO THAT THAT CONTRIBUTION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR FUTURE TRAFFIC? IMPROVEMENTS IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, THAT THERE WAS SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE AT ONE OF THESE INTERSECTIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO ADDRESS THAT. YEAH I THINK WE CAN BELIEVES THE AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN BUILDING WITH STAFF LIMITED TO THE 2 TO 45 NORTHWEST PARKWAY AND THEN ALSO TO COLLINS, BUT I THINK WE COULD DEFINITELY EXTEND THAT TO PAPER BURNS JUST IN CASE THAT IS A PROJECT IS INDEED CONTRIBUTING TO THAT AND SAY THAT OUR DISTRIBUTION

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TAKE THE 6 40 OUT OF THAT MILLION WOULD BE THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS TRAFFIC. WE EXPECT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT TO BE 400,000. NEVER BE 600,000 THAT WE COULD USE FOR OTHER. USES OTHER ISSUES WITHIN THAT AREA. CORRECT. AND WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT THE DETAILS OF THAT. IS THAT CORRECT ? WE HAVEN'T FINALIZED THAT MOST OF THE DETAILS. OKAY BUT YEAH, LIKE AGAIN SUGGESTED FOR PAPER BARNS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDED TO THE AGREEMENT. YEAH I THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE JUST TO ADD THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT JUST IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS. ULTIMATELY THE LIMIT ON THE SCOPE OF WHERE THOSE DOLLARS COULD BE USED IS MORE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THOSE FUNDS GO TO IMPROVE THINGS THAT THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF STILL WATER AND YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE IMPACTING THEIR STILLWATER. IS IT CORRECT? SO I, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT . YOU KNOW, WE'RE ADDRESSING. YOU KNOW THE DIRECT IMPACTS AND ALSO MAKING A CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THE OTHER POTENTIAL IMPACTS IN THE AREA. SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD THING TO SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. APPROVAL OF THE TRAFFIC LIGHT. BY THE BIO DOT RIGHT? ARE WE? WE DO NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN SO FAR. IS IT'S TOO EARLY TO TELL AND SO THERE, YOU KNOW THEY WOULD NEED OTHER APPROVALS. FOR US TO PUT ONE THERE WHEN IT'S NOT WARRANTED BY RIGHT NOW, THE STANDARD IS 95TH PERCENTILE TRAFFIC. WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TO USE AND UNDERSTANDING TO ALLOW THAT TRAFFIC GOING TO COME. THAT'S AN ONGOING ONGOING DISCUSSION DISCUSSION. COUNCILMAN SEYMOUR IF I CAN ADD , YEAH. WON'T WORK WITHOUT THAT TRYING TO PUSH THEM. SOMETIMES IT HELPS IF IT COMES FROM A LOCAL CITY WHO WORKS WITHOUT THAT, AND OTHER PROJECTS TO KIND OF PUSH THAT PACE A LITTLE BIT QUICKER THAN A DEVELOPER. UM WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE SEEN TRAFFIC STUDY AND WE KNOW THAT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE RIGHT NOW OUT THERE IS A LEVEL F WHICH IS UNACCEPTABLE. UM AND THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ONLY GOING TO ADD TO THAT SO THAT SHOULD HELP. OUR CASE CAN EXPEDITE THE TRAFFIC TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN THIS AREA, BUT KEEP IN MIND. BASED ON THEIR SCHEDULE. THEY WON'T HAVE ANY HOMES OUT THERE UNTIL PROBABLY 2025. SO WE'RE PROBABLY YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL TWO PLUS YEARS OUT, WHICH GIVES US PLENTY OF TIME. TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH L A DOT TO GET THAT SIGNAL KIND OF PASSED THROUGH THEIR THEIR CHECKS AND BALANCES. KYLE GIVEN THAT YOU JUST SAID THAT IT'S A LEVEL F CURRENTLY HMM. WHY WOULD I NOT NOT? MAKE IMPROVEMENTS NOW . GREAT QUESTION, AND I KNOW THAT I KNOW JUSTIN AND HIS TEAMS TRYING TO GET ANSWERS FROM OH, THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TOLD US THAT. THEY LOOK AT THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE AT EMORY IN THEIR SECTION. IF A DEVELOPER MAKES THAT INTERSECTION WORSE THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO BRING IT BACK TO THAT CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE. OBVIOUSLY, I MEAN, THE ONLY THING THAT, ISN'T IT. YEAH, THEY'RE MAKING IT WORSE. AND THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO IS ADD A SIGNAL RIGHT NOW, SO THAT'S THE CONVERSATION WE HAVE TO HAVE WITH THEM. UM AND I THINK THEY LOOK AT SIGNAL WARRANTS, WHICH ANY STAY. MUNICIPALITY CITY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY LOOKS AT SIGNAL WARNINGS. YOU CAN'T PUT A SIGNAL IN THE LESS IT'S NOT WARRENTON, BUT I THINK THEY'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE WARNINGS AND THAT MAY BE LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL FIELD CONDITIONS AND SEEING THAT IF IT DOES BACK UP MORE THEY'VE GOT A SAFETY ISSUE WITH WITH VEHICLES BACKING UP ON THAT STATE, ROUTE FOUR AND 33 IN THEIR CHANGE AS WELL SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO KIND OF PRESS THEM, UM, TO GET THE SIGNAL PASSED AS

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I WAS JUST GONNA SAY SO. THE SIGNAL IS WARRANTED WITH THE COMMERCIAL SPACE INCLUDED IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY. THE DEVELOPER HAS REACHED OUT TO THE SCHOOLS AND THE SCHOOLS ARE INTERESTING TO HAVE FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL OR FIRST OPTION OF THAT COMMERCIAL SPACE. COMMERCIAL SPACE DOES NOT IF THE LAND USE IS NOT FOR A SCHOOL, AND IT GOES TO COMMERCIAL, A SIGNAL IS WARRANTED. SO VAST SPACE TURNS INTO COMMERCIAL SPACE, IT WOULD BE WARRANTED NOW. AND I SHOULDN'T SAY NOW ONCE THE COMMERCIAL SPACES DEVELOPED, AND THERE'S PROBABLY NO DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE OR ANY STUDIES THAT HAVE CONCLUDED THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT PLACE FOR A SCHOOL IN THE FUTURE, EITHER. YOU WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO THE SCHOOLS UNDER COMMERCIAL SPACE WOULD GET US THE TRAFFIC LIGHT PRETTY QUICK. ONCE THE COMMERCIAL SPACE GOES IN ONCE IT'S BUILT. ONCE IT'S BUILT OUT ONCE IT'S DESIGNATED, ACTUALLY IS CONSTRUCTED. AND THEN TENANTS ARE ACTUALLY THERE THAT ARE ACTUALLY DRAWING THE TRAFFIC. THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT WARRANTED. I THINK SO. THE ONLY WAY TO SIGNAL IS GOING TO GO IN AT THIS IN THEIR CHANGES THIS IF THIS DEVELOPMENT GOES, I THINK, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE SAYING IT'S NOT WARRANTS. AND THEN IF WE DON'T, IF NOT, WE IF NO ONE ADDS, AND THE TRAFFIC TO IT, OH, THAT'S NOT GOING TO PUT THE SAME LOOK SO THE TRAFFIC THERE IS ONLY GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET WORSE, AND NO ONE'S GOING TO PAY FOR THAT WON'T ALLOW US TO PUT IT THERE. NONETHELESS IT'S WARRANTED. JAIL YEAH. I JUST I JUST HAD HAD A QUESTION. UM YOU KNOW, WE COULD WE COULD, RIGHT. I MEAN, I'M GUESSING WE COULD SO WE COULD MAKE THE DEVELOPER PUT

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CONSEQUENTLY, THEY HAD NO LEVERAGE AT ALL. IN THIS CASE, YOU'RE THE DEVELOPER. AND WE'RE HOPING FOR YOUR LEVERAGE TO GET THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT. SO THE WHOLE THING RUST IN YOUR COURT. UNLIKE THE ONE ON WEAVER ROAD. WHERE. THEY WERE HELD HOSTAGE AS A RESULT OF THAT PROJECT, NOT BEING DONE YET. BUT I DON'T KNOW IT'S A BIG ISSUE. I PERSONALLY DISAGREE WITH MR SEYMOUR. I UNDERSTAND. NO I UNDERSTAND, I GUESS. I UNDERSTAND HIS POINT ABOUT TRAFFIC, MY FEELING ABOUT THE WEAVER ROAD DEVELOPMENT WAS NOT DUE TO TRAFFIC, SO JUST OKAY . IT CAN BE BOTH WAYS. NOW. DO YOU UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR CONCLUSIONS . THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. AND MY FEELING HERE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN MILL VALLEY, FOR EXAMPLE. BECAUSE WE KEPT ALLOWING THEM TO GO ON TO 31. WITHOUT THE DEVELOPER. YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GET 250 HOUSES THAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT IS MINIMAL AND ANOTHER 2 50. IT'S MINIMAL AND ANOTHER 2 15. IT'S MINIMAL. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'VE GOT 2000 HOUSES AND WE'VE GOT A $12 MILLION BILL THAT WE HAVE TO PAY. TO FIX EVERYTHING. THANKS ARGUMENT IN THIS SITUATION.

WE'VE GOT A DEVELOPER THAT'S SAYING HERE'S THE MONEY TO FIX THE SITUATION UP FRONT. SO.

THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN PIECEMEAL NG ON IN MILL VALLEY THAT WE WENT THROUGH. WELL AS I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S STILL DIALOGUE GOING ON THE STATE. MHM, RIGHT. I MEAN, THERE'S STILL TRYING TO WORK THROUGH IT. AND WE CAN HOPE FOR SOMETHING. BUT IT'S ONLY AGENDA TONIGHT.

YOU KNOW, WE STILL NEED TO FINALIZE SOME LANGUAGE ON THIS CONTRIBUTION FOR THE FUTURE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS. SO YOU KNOW, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE POSTPONE IT UNTIL MONDAY. OUR

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THERE'S A LOT OF REAL ESTATE IN THE CITY. A LOT OF LAND WHERE YOU COULD PUT THIS PRODUCT AND I WOULD BE GREAT, MUCH BETTER IN MY OPINION, BUT WE'RE CURRENTLY IS. I DON'T THINK IT'S ENTIRELY SMART TO GROW IN THIS AREA. SO TONIGHT I WOULD MOST LIKELY VOTE NOW PLAN TO I GUESS I'M OPEN TO RECONSIDERING IF WE WERE TO TABLE BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS HOW YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT THIS IS REALLY WHAT DRIVES ME AND I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AND MAKE A DECISION. AND CURRENTLY THERE'S NO CHANCE FOR YOU TO RESPOND WITH THIS INFORMATION. THERE'S NO PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED, SO I PERSONALLY WOULD FEEL BETTER IF WE WOULD GIVE THE RESIDENTS AT LEAST ONE MORE CHANCE TO GIVE US FEEDBACK BASED ON THE FEEDBACK FROM THE DEVELOPER THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED. IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, UM NOW THAT'S THAT'S NOT ALLOWED IN OR RURAL SO EVEN IF WE TABLE IT, THERE'S NO WE HAD OUR WE HAD OUR PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS SECOND READING CORRECT. TONIGHT WE RECEIVED A LOT OF NEW INFORMATION BETWEEN 2ND 3RD READING IN THE PUBLIC HAD NO CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THAT NOW WE'RE EXPECTED TO JUST VOTE ON IT. WELL I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. SO I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY IN RESPONSE TO THIS AND THAT WOULD HELP ME MAKE A DECISION. SO I WILL, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAVE THE LAST TWO YEARS FOLLOWED OUR RULES AND HAVE NOT ALLOWED PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIRD READING.

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HELL, BEC. THAT ANNEXING AND REZONING PROPERTY IN SUPPORT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND IS STILL WATER FARMS IS NOT IN LINE WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ANNEXING AND REZONING. THIS PROPERTY WILL NOT RECEIVE A POSITIVE VOTE FOR ME. AT THIS TIME. AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY. THE PROBLEMS OF TRAFFIC, DRAINAGE AND AVAILABILITY OF CITY WATER, SEWAGE AND SAFETY SERVICES.

COULD ALL BE SOLVED IN TIME BY OUR STAFF WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS, THE STATE AND OTHER PROFESSIONALS. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT. SCUSE ME IN A LOCATION THAT DOES NOT MEET THE GREATER NEEDS OF THE CITY. A MORE BALANCED APPROACH, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY CONFORM TO THE NEEDS OF GREATER MARYSVILLE WOULD BE TO PLACE THIS SAME DEVELOPMENT IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION. THANKS AND THAT APPLIES TO BOTH ORDINANCE, G ORDINANCE AGE AND IT HAPPENED. MY DECISIONS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH WITH SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WE'RE FACING AND SOLVING. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. MY CONCERN IS NOT WHERE IT IS. SO THANKS. SO I WAS GONNA ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE POTENTIAL SCHOOL SITE. AND WHETHER OR NOT IT IS LARGE ENOUGH. BUT THEN, AS I LOOK AT THE MAP, AND I SEE WHERE EDGEWOOD IS AT THAT'S QUITE A BIT LARGER THAN THE EDGEWOOD

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TO 800150 TO 8000028. FROM YOU ONE TOWNSHIP ZONING TO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. P U D FOR STILL WATER FARMS. THANK YOU. I'M GLAD I DIDN'T HAVE TO READ THAT ONE ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS . I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH IT. YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE SMARTEST THING HE'S DONE. WE HAVE ALL READ THOSE ZEROS. AH WE ARE. WE HAVE NOTHING FURTHER. OKAY. ANY COUNCIL COMMENTS? MR PRESIDENT, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM TO DATE CERTAIN. NOVEMBER 14TH. OKAY, CALL. MR REEMS? YES MR ROUSH? YES MR BURBEY. MR CARPENTER? YES, MR SEYMOUR. YES MRS GROAT? NO MR BERGER, FOUR. YES OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. THIS WILL ALSO BE BACK ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 14TH. WOULD

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I TOOK A PICTURE OF IT. OF THE COMPANIES WANTING TO LOCATE IN MARYSVILLE NUMBER ONE CONCERN LABOR COST NUMBER. TWO AVAILABILITY OF SKILLED LABOR. IF WE COULD BUILD A WALL AROUND MARYSVILLE AND STILL GET COMPANIES TO COME HERE. I DO IT. BUT IF WE DON'T EXPAND OUR HOUSING, WE'RE GONNA RUN OUT OF JOBS. AND THEN WE'RE NOT GROWING. AND THEN WE'RE GOING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. SO WHEN I LOOK AT DEVELOPMENTS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS WHAT DRIVES MY DECISIONS MORE THAN WANTING MORE RESIDENTS. WE NEED RESIDENTS ARE AWARE JOBS GO AT NIGHT. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE IN YOUR CITY, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET ANY NEW COMPANIES. UM THERE'S A REASON THAT HONDA HAS SELECTED A DIFFERENT COUNTY TO DO THE EVIE BATTERIES. THEY'RE ALREADY SATURATED HERE. THEY CAN'T GET THAT MANY MORE EMPLOYEES FROM THESE FOUR COUNTIES, SO THEY MOVE IT A LITTLE FURTHER AWAY SO THAT THEY CAN START DRAWING FROM THOSE COUNTIES AS WELL. SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT GOES THROUGH MY MIND A LOT. UH MAYBE I SPEND TOO MUCH TIME WITH ERIC. UM AND I AGREE WITH DEB. WITH THE LOCATION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. BUT DEVELOPMENTS LOCATE NEAR UTILITIES. AND THAT IS A EASY MHM SPOT TO GET UTILITIES TOO. I WISH THERE WERE A LOT OF OTHER LOCATIONS THAT WE COULD GET UTILITIES TOO. BUT

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