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          FORM IS CALLED TO ORDER. WE WILL PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, FOLLOWED BY THE INVOCATION. TWO STATES OVER HERE. AND HE'S A GREAT PROBLEM. RELIGIOUS STANDS ONE OF THE NATION. YEAH. OMANI GOD, WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND ITS CITIZENS. AMEN. PAUL ALLEN SEYMOUR PRESIDENT, DEBORAH GROTE PRESENT DONALD BURGER CREAMS PRESIDENT JR ROUSH HERE, HANK BURBEY PRESENT A CARPENTER, PRESIDENT. WE GOT EVERYBODY ACCOUNTED FOR NEXT STEP APPROVAL 
          [APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
OF MINUTES FROM OCTOBER. 24TH ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES AS PERCENTAGE, MR PRESIDENT MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINISTERS PRESENTED. ON PAPER. PLEASE SAY 
          [APPOINTMENTS]
I AYE APPROVED NEXT UP APPOINTMENTS, VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS DEPENDENCE FUND BOARD, WITH TWO COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS NEEDED FOR ONE YEAR TERM NEXT YEAR CURRENTLY APPOINTED OR MYSELF IN JAIL AROUND SH AND THE MAYOR'S HOLD. FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS ALSO ELECTED TO FIREFIGHTERS TO BE ON THE BOARD. FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR NEXT YEAR. CHIEF J. REILLY AND MIKE MONTGOMERY CURRENTLY SORT OF ON THE BOARD. ONCE THE COUNCIL AND FIRE DEPARTMENT SEATS ARE FINALIZED THE BOARD VOTES ON THE FIFTH MEMBER CURRENTLY, TODD DISBANDMENT, THIS BENNETT IS IN THAT FIFTH SEAT. THE ANNUAL MEETING IS SET FOR DECEMBER 19TH AT 6 30. IT LOOKS LIKE AH, WE'LL PROBABLY DO IT UP HERE IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM UP ON THE SECOND FLOOR. AH! I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE THE APPOINTMENT OF MYSELF AND J. R. WILL MOVE TO CLOSE NOMINATIONS, OKAY? ARE ON FAVOR. PLEASE SAY AYE. OKAY, SOP IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT. 
          [ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]
UM, DOESN'T SAY HERE. UM ABOUT THE FIFTH ONE PENDANT. THAT'S. THE COMMITTEE ABOARD THE BOTH OF THE SITE, THEN, OKAY, JUST FOR THE RECORD, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. FEW ITEMS TONIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY . CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 24TH AND FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 25TH AND OBSERVANCE OF THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAYS, SO IT'S COMING QUICKLY . WE DO HAVE THE PUMPKIN DASH FIVE K COMING UP THE 12TH ANNUAL HONDA FEDERAL CREDIT UNION. PUMPKIN DASH FIVE K TAKES PLACE ON THANKSGIVING DAY. 
          THANKSGIVING DAY MORNING, WHICH IS THURSDAY. OF COURSE, NOVEMBER 24TH THIS FIVE K RUN WALK IS OPEN TO ALL RUNNERS, WALKERS OF ALL SKILL LEVELS. IT'S CURRENTLY 80% FULL AND THE REG REGISTRATION DEADLINE IS RIGHT NOW, NOVEMBER 16TH. SO IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED YET, SOME OF YOU ON COUNCIL, THE LET'S STILL OPEN. STILL OPEN ANOTHER EVENT COMING UP ON NOVEMBER NOVEMBER. 
          26TH SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 26TH IS SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY, SO WE'RE REALLY ENCOURAGING RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE TO REALLY VISIT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. IN ALL SECTIONS OF OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THE UPTOWN ESPECIALLY FOR SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY ON NOVEMBER 26TH THE CHRISTMAS WALKING TREE LIGHTING IS COMING UP. SO BRING YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS UPTOWN ON NOVEMBER 28TH. 
          5 TO 8 P.M. TO ENJOY CHILDREN'S ACTIVITIES. DANCERS CAROLERS FESTIVE TREATS SHOPPING DISCOUNTS. CARRIAGE RIDES, VISITS WITH SANTA AND THE ANNUAL CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING AT SIX P.M. IN PARTNERS PARK, SO THAT'S ALWAYS A WELL ATTENDED EVENT AND LET'S HOPE FOR SOME GOOD WEATHER THAT NIGHT. UH MARYSVILLE WINTER WONDERLAND COMING UP DECEMBER 22ND FROM TWO PM TO EIGHT PM GET IN THE HOLIDAY SPIRIT WITH THIS FUND FREE EVENT, INCLUDING A GINGERBREAD BOUNCE. HOUSE POLAR BEAR INFLATABLE SLIDE TRAIN RIDES, VISITS WITH SANTA ICELAND SKATING AND SHOPPING AND DINING 
          [00:05:04]
AND UP WITH THE UPTOWN MERCHANTS AND NEEDED NEED EVENT THAT WE HAVE SET UP THE MARYSVILLE WINTER WONDERLAND, DECEMBER 22ND FROM 2 TO 8 P.M. OF COURSE, MARY ON MAIN, WHICH IS OUR ICE LESS ICE SKATING. PARTNERS PARK STARTS ON DECEMBER 10TH AND RUNS THROUGH JANUARY. 2ND SKATING IS FREE TO RESIDENTS AND VISITORS OF ALL AGES THE REGULAR HOURS OR WEEKENDS, DECEMBER 11TH THROUGH JANUARY 2ND. THE WEEKENDS ARE TWO P.M. TO EIGHT P.M. AND IT'S CLOSED ON CHRISTMAS DAY. AND THEN THE WEEK DAYS, DECEMBER 12TH THROUGH THE 16TH. IT WILL BE OPEN FROM FIVE PM TO EIGHT PM AND WEEKDAYS. DECEMBER 19TH THROUGH THE 30TH WILL BE OPEN TO PM TO EIGHT PM AND EVERYBODY SHOULD BE RECEIVING THIS AT THEIR HOME COMING UP. WE'RE GOING TO BE MAILING THEM OUT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS A COPY OF ALL THE HOURS AND THE TIMES FOR THOSE EVENTS, SO THEY SHOULD BE SEEING THOSE UM, OF COURSE VISITS WITH SANTA MONDAY, NOVEMBER 28TH FROM FIVE PM TO EIGHT PM THURSDAYS THROUGH SATURDAYS. TIMES VARY IN DECEMBER AT PARTNERS PARK, SO I SAW HIM SETTING UP ONE OF THE ONE OF THE BUILDINGS IN THE UNDERNEATH THE SHELTER HERE APART IN HIS PARK TODAY, YOU'RE GONNA GRADUALLY SEE THINGS GETTING VERY FAST. THEY, OF COURSE, ARE. WE'RE ALSO DOING A LOT OF CHRISTMAS DECORATING RIGHT NOW, IN AND AROUND THE UPTOWN AND AROUND THE COMMUNITY A LITTLE BIT. SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT AS WELL? WITH THAT. 
          I'LL SHIFT IT DOWN TO JEREMY. I THINK FOR SOME MEANS AND OPERATION ITEMS. THANKS TERRY, UM, ON THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION SIDE. OUR STREETS DIVISION IS CURRENTLY HAS ALL HANDS ON DECK IN REGARDS TO LEAVE COLLECTION, SO I KNOW THEY'RE FALLING A LITTLE BIT BEHIND. BUT THE LEAVES KIND OF ALL HIT AT ONCE THIS YEAR, SO WE'RE WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH THAT. SO WE JUST ASK FOR RESIDENTS PATIENTS IN REGARDS TO THAT. OR PARTS DIVISION. WE'VE GOT STAFF ATTENDING OPR A LEADERSHIP TRAINING IN THE INSTALLATION OF THE UPTOWN SNOWFLAKE SHOULD START TOWARDS THE END OF THIS WEEK. AND THEN FINALLY, WATER IS IN THE MIDST OF TRYING TO WRAP UP THE FAIRFIELD DRIVE WATERLINE REPLACEMENT RESTORATION, BUT THEY'RE CURRENTLY RUNNING INTO ISSUES IS MOST CONTRACTORS DO IN TRACKING DOWN SOME CONCRETE RIGHT NOW, SO, UH, WE'RE I GUESS ON THE LOCAL CONCRETE COMPANIES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPLY US WITH THAT NOT ENDS . MY REPORT. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KYLE FOR SOME UPDATES ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT CONSTRUCTION . THANKS JEREMY, THE WARNER ROAD UTILITY EXTENSION PROJECT OR A CONTRACTOR AND CONTINUES TO PERFORM THE SENATOR'S SEWER INSTALLATION WORK ACCOUNT THERE IN TOWN, THE WALNUT STREET CULVERT REPLACEMENT PROJECT CULVERT WAS INSTALLED LAST WEEK IN THE ROAD WAS PAVED. HOWEVER WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR SOME RESTORATION WORK AND GUN RAIL WERE WORKED BEFORE WE OPEN UP THAT ROOM. THOSE ARE ALL THE UPDATES. I HAVE THAT CONCLUDES OUR REPORT UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY COUNCIL QUESTIONS? OKAY? 
          [REPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE REPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTORY. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. COUNCIL MEMBERS. JUST A FEW ITEMS. ONE I BELIEVE SOME OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS PARTICIPATED, BUT WE HAD OUR VISION SESSION. OCTOBER 19TH . WE HAD 45 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE. LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. 
          WE HAD SCHOOL DISTRICTS, DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND BUSINESSES PARTICIPATED. WE FOCUSED ON THREE ISSUES AND THAT WAS REALLY FOCUSED ON HOW WE PREPARE COMMUNITIES TO WIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. BUT THE THEMES THAT CAME FROM THAT EVENING WERE TRUST, COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIP, EMBRACING OPPORTUNITIES AND INNOVATION AND COMMUNITY AND LEADERSHIP ACROSS GENERATIONS WERE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE COVERED. WE DO HAVE A FINAL REPORT WILL BE SITTING OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL AS THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING SOME MORE INFORMATION TO COME ON THAT AND GREAT GREAT TURNOUT. GREAT GREAT DISCUSSION AS PART OF THAT. AS TERRY SAID SMALL BUSINESS SALARIES COMING ON NOVEMBER 26TH. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, PLEASE GO TO OUR WEBSITE OR CONTACT ME MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP YOU OUT AND GET SOME INFORMATION BUT REALLY SPEND YOUR MONEY LOCALLY AS MUCH AS YOU CAN ON THAT SATURDAY. ALSO WE HAVE A FEW VIBES BUSINESS IMPACT EVENTS COMING THIS WEEK WEDNESDAY AT FIVE PM WE DO HAVE A HOUSING PRESENTATION FROM THE BIA BUILDING INDUSTRY OF ASSOCIATION OF CENTRAL OHIO TO TALK ABOUT THE NEW HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR THE REGION SPECIFICALLY TO BE RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT MARYSVILLE UNION CARRIES SHOULD BE DOING ABOUT THE HOUSING CRISIS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING. THEN AT EIGHT AM ON THURSDAY, WE HAVE KENNY MCDONALD FROM ONE COLUMBUS THAT WILL BE SPEAKING ABOUT THE REGIONAL ECONOMIC UPDATE IS REALLY THE ANNUAL MEETING THAT HE COMES TO, AND THEN LAST, BUT NOT LEAST WE DID PARTICIPATE IN MARY'S LITTLE STEM SCHOOL STEM DAY WE HAD 15 CIVIC AND BUSINESS LEADERS PARTICIPATED IN THE REAL WORLD EVENT, WHICH, ACTUALLY, 
          [00:10:03]
REALLY, THEY DID A PITCH STUDENTS DID WE HAVE OVER 450 STUDENTS PARTICIPATED. VERY EXCITING TO SEE THAT HAPPEN AT THE MAYOR'S WILL STEM SCHOOL. IT WAS A GREAT DAY TO CELEBRATE WHAT THE STEM SCHOOLS DOING FOR OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S ALL I HAD, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, ERIC. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THEY WILL MOVE ON TO THE REPORT OF THE CORPORATE COUNSEL. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. I HAVE NO REPORT THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, BECKY. NEXT 
          [HEARING OF CITIZENS]
UP ON THE AGENDA HEARING OF CITIZENS IF WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS PRESENT TONIGHT THAT WOULD WISH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT PART OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA. NO. OKAY WE'LL MOVE ON TO THINK. OH, COME ON OUT HERE. NO THAT'S RIGHT. JOHN MARSHALL 12 11 WOULD LINE DRIVE HERE IN MARYSVILLE. A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. TO THE POINT DEVELOPMENT, SO I'M THE LAST HOUSE ON WOOD LINE DRIVE NEXT TO THE DEVELOPMENT. UM SO. THEY'VE BEEN PRETTY GOOD ABOUT KEEPING THE CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE UP WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ON ADINA DRIVE. A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. THE ALL OF A SUDDEN OVERNIGHT DECIDED THEY WERE GOING TO CHANGE THAT ON THEIR OWN. SO I STARTED HAVE A PARADE OF DUMP TRUCKS AND CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT BY THE HOUSE DOWN WOULD LINE WHICH AS YOU ALL RECALL THAT WAS JUST REPAIRED LAST SUMMER, I BELIEVE STREET WAS TORE OUT, REPLACED PUT IN NEW UM SO I WOULD LIKE TO BE ONE THAT IF I'M GOING TO COMPLAIN, THEN I NEED TO ALSO GIVE SOMEBODY A PAT ON THE BACK GROUNDS WELL DESERVED. SO WHEN THAT STARTED AGAIN GENERALLY CALL DROPPED HIM A COUPLE OF EMAILS. RIGHT AWAY. HE GAVE. UM WAS IT FISHER HOMES? I BELIEVE, GAVE THEM A CALL. UH THEY GAVE HIM A STORY THAT DIDN'T QUITE MATCH THEIR ACTIONS. SO UM, UM WHEN THE ACTIONS DIDN'T TAKE PLACE, I CONTACTED HIM AGAIN. HE AGAIN TOOK JUMPED RIGHT ON. IT GOT ON LONG STORY SHORT I ACTUALLY TALKED TO AND I FORGET YOUR INSPECTORS NAME. AH I THINK IT WAS LAST THURSDAY WAS MARKED WILL SAVOR. AH AH AH, AND HE DROPPED THE HAMMER ON HIM TOLD ME TO SHUT THEM DOWN IF THEY DIDN'T STRAIGHTEN UP SO LONG STORY SHORT, UM, I WANTED TO THANK JEREMY AND HIS STAFF FOR TRYING TO KEEP THE DEVELOPERS IN CHECK A LITTLE BIT. I CAN TALK TO HIM ALONG THE WAY, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR ATTITUDE. THEY SEEMED A BIT ENTITLED THAT THEY COULD KIND OF DO WHAT THEY WANT WHEN THEY WANT IT. SO IT WAS NICE THAT JEREMY AND HIS STAFF GOT ON HIM MADE HIM TOTAL LINE THAT'S GOOD TO SEE AND ALSO COMPLEMENT ALL THE CITY STAFF. A MONTH OR SO AGO. I HAD A TOILET THAT SPRUNG A LEAK. I GOT A CALL AND SAID, HEY, YOUR WATER BILL IS OUTRAGEOUS. I SAID, YEAH, I KNOW. BUT HOW MANY ECONOMY CITIES WILL CALL YOU TO LET YOU KNOW THAT? HEY YOUR WATER BILL IS GOING TO BE YOU KNOW THAT THE JILLION DOLLARS THIS MONTH. YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK THAT OUT. SO UM, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT. THANK JEREMY AND HIS STAFF IN PARTICULAR BUT THE STAFF OVERALL, UM, DOING A GREAT JOB AND THANKS FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. EXTRAORDINARY. OKAY WE WILL MOVE ON TO RESOLUTIONS. REVOLUTION A FIRST 
          [Res. A ]
READING TITLE, ONLY TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO APPLY FOR AND ENTER INTO AGREEMENTS RELATED TO THE AWARD OF THE OHIO PUBLIC WORKS, COMMISSIONED FUNDING AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY. ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS. WELL, WE, UH, PRESENTED THIS THE SCENE AT THE SAFETY SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETING THAT WE HAD AND OUTLINE THE PROJECTS UNLESS THERE'S BASICALLY JUST FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE. THIS IS TO APPLY FOR FUNDING AT THE INTERSECTION OF CREEK VIEW DRIVE AND 31. FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF AROUND ABOUT AT THAT LOCATION . UH PRIMARILY BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC AS THEY COME IN FROM NORTH FROM THE NORTH INTO TOWN AND ROUNDABOUTS ARE VERY GOOD BECAUSE OF THOSE TRUCKERS GET GREEN LIGHTS. THEY DON'T SLOW DOWN, SO WE THINK THIS MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE AREA COMING IN BY MILL VALLEY. THEY'RE MUCH SAFER. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS TONIGHT UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY AND DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE TIMING THE YEAH, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE APPLICATION IN BY NOVEMBER. 30TH IS IT NOVEMBER 30TH AND SO WE'VE GOT TO TONIGHT'S MEETING AND THEN THE MEETING ON THE 28TH. BUT THEY NEED THE APPLICATION BY THE 30TH FOR IT TO BE EFFECTIVE AND JUST NEED THE CITY MANAGER'S SIGNATURE ON THE APPLICATION. 
          [00:15:02]
OKAY SO WE HAVE A REQUEST TO WAIVE THIRD READING IN PAST EMERGENCY FUNDING HAS ALREADY BEEN AWARDED. JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS PWC WOULD PROVIDE ABOUT $550,000 TOWARD THAT ROUNDABOUT IN THE DEVELOPER, PROTEA IS ALREADY COMMITTED TO $650,000 TO THAT INTERSECTION, SO WRITE IT ABOUT 1.2 MILLION OF THE ROUNDABOUT COSTS WILL BE PROVIDED. BY THEIR THE DEVELOPER OR THE PWC GRANT. THANK YOU. EDIFICATION ON THIS, THOUGH THIS IS KIND OF A LATE DEVELOPMENT. 
          FOR THIS TO BE AN EMERGENCY SOMEWHAT OF AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT JUST LEAVE HAPPENING AND WE NEED IT QUICKLY IN ORDER TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY. KYLE. MENTIONED EARLIER. WE JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED THE NOTIFICATION AND THEY DON'T GIVE US A FULL THREE READINGS TURN AROUND SO IN NOVEMBER YEAR DO THIS. AND I MENTIONED IN OUR PUBLIC SUB PUBLIC SAFETY PUBLIC SERVICE MEETING. BUT I WANT YOU TO SAY IT AGAIN AND OPEN MEETING HERE WITH US. THE ROUNDABOUT IS GOING TO BE BIG ENOUGH FOR A SEMI TRUCK AND FOR FARM EQUIPMENT. YES THAT IS CORRECT. OUR CONSULTANT RAN ON A TURN AND SOCIAL PROGRAM USED WITH. ALTHOUGH CANCER KINDA CIRCULATE THROUGH ROUNDABOUTS. THEY RAN THROUGH IT WITH A SEMI TRUCK, A FARMING EQUIPMENT AND A FIRE AND TRUMP AS WELL. AND THE SCHOOL BUS SO ALL FOUR WERE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT. PAIN. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY COUNCIL COMMENTS? I WOULD JUST SAY THAT TO YOU KNOW NOT TO INDIRECTLY SAY, SAY SOMETHING ABOUT YOU KNOW JR'S COMMENTS OR COUNCILMAN RASHES. COMMENTS I DO NOT WANT. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT LIVING IN 1950 FARM EQUIPMENT A LOT LARGER THAN IT USED TO BE. SO I DO NOT LIKE WHEN FARM EQUIPMENT GOES THROUGH THE HEART OF MARYSVILLE PERSONAL SO I'VE SEEN TOO MANY CARS GET DAMAGED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. UM TOO, BUT THERE'S FAR MINE OUT THERE, SO IT'S GREAT, BUT I DON'T WANT IT COMING THROUGH THE HEART OF MARYSVILLE. THANK YOU. WELL IT'S GOING TO COME THROUGH THE HEART OF MARRIAGE BECAUSE WE LIVE IN AN AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY, SO IF HE'S GOT A CHOICE OF MOVING OR DEAL WITH FARM EQUIPMENT OKAY, SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO WAIVE THIRD READING? SO MOVED. ROLL CALL, MR BURBEY? YES MR CARPENTER? YES MR. SEYMOUR MRS. GROOT MR BERGER? YES MR REEMS? YES MR ROUCH? YES SEVEN. YES EMOTIONAL FOR THE EMERGENCY CAUSE. SORRY ABOUT THAT. AH. 
          ROLL CALL, MR CARPENTER. YES MR SEYMOUR? YES MRS GROAT? YES MR BERGER. MR. REEMS MR. ROUSH YES , MR BURBEY? YES SEVEN. YES THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING ON MONDAY. NOVEMBER 28. 
          [Ord. A ]
ORDINANCES ORDINANCE A FIRST READING TITLE, ONLY TO AMEND SECTION 9 37.18 C SCHEDULE OF FEES OF THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE IN RELATION TO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS. YES I THINK WE'RE GETTING COUPLE SLIDES. I THINK WE WANT TO SHOW TONIGHT. BUT FIRST OFF, THERE WAS SOME WORK THAT WAS DONE BY OUR UTILITY RATE WORKING GROUP THAT KIND OF PREPPED FOR THIS, UH, REQUEST THIS EVENING. THAT'S BEFORE YOU SECONDARILY TO THAT. WE RECENTLY MADE A PRESENTATION. TO A WORK SESSION OF CITY COUNCIL, BUT WE THOUGHT WE'D JUST UPDATE EVERYBODY ON ON THIS INFORMATION . AND WHY THE NEED IS THERE? SO JEREMY, DO YOU HAVE THIS? YEAH. THANKS TERRY. UM TRY TO KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET, SINCE WE DID PRESENT IT AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, BUT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO REVIEW SOME OF THE RECENT MAJOR EXPENDITURES OUT OF THIS FUND, ALSO FROM A CAPITAL PROJECT PERSPECTIVE. 
          2019 WE DID THE COLUMBUS AVENUE STORM IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH PUT A SEWER ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACKS BEHIND THE BENNIES AREA AND BOARD A NEW CULVERT UNDERNEATH THE ADJACENT RAILROAD TRACKS. UM PRETTY BIG PROJECT FOR US. AND I GUESS IF YOU DRIVE BY THERE, YOU CAN TELL THAT THE DRAINAGE IS MUCH MUCH IMPROVED BACK IN THAT AREA. AS WELL. A COUPLE MORE CURRENT PROJECTS. THE HICKORY GET IMPROVEMENTS WHERE WE PUT SOME NEW STORM SEWER DOWN THE ROADWAY AND THEN ALSO, UM, 
          [00:20:04]
INSTALLED A BRAND NEW COVER UNDERNEATH PEPPER BUSH DRIVE AS WELL MUCH NEEDED AND HAS PERFORMED VERY WELL. IN THE INTERIM. THAT PROJECT ACTUALLY THINK JUST IS WRAPPING UP NOW, SO THAT WAS A 2021 IN 2022 PROJECT. UM, WANTED STREET COVERED CHILD AND MENTION IT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT ROAD WAS PAVED AND THE ROADS BACK OPEN THERE. SO THAT WAS 320,000 AND THEN THE BISHOP RON DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. SO THAT'S THE PROJECT JUST NORTH OF EDINA POINT WHERE THERE IS SOME WORK ACROSS THE AIRPORT PROPERTY, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO INSTALL SOME DETENTION BASINS. TO BE ABLE TO HELP IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE IN THE EDINA POINT AND LEVERAGE AREA, AND THAT WAS A PRETTY BIG PROJECT THAT ABOUT 950,000 SOME IN HOUSE PROJECTS AND AGAIN. I DETAILED ALL THESE AT THE WORK SESSION, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO ENCLOSE THE DETROL ON DELAWARE AVENUE IN FRONT OF THE UAE AND HAROLD LEWIS, UM, CENTER. UM AGAIN. WE DID THAT IN HOUSE. BUT IF WE WERE TO HIRE CONTRACTOR WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $100,000 TO DO THAT PROJECT WE CENTRALLY DUG A DITCH AND REPLACING OLD FIELD TILE WITH A BRAND NEW DITCH TO HELP DRAIN THE SQUARE DRIVE AREA, DELAWARE AVENUE AND PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING EAST OF 33 IN THAT AREA, WITH THE WORK THAT ORGANIZE DID OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS WERE ENVISIONING ANTICIPATING THAT WAS ABOUT $350,000 OF SAVINGS. AND THEN JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, WE WERE ABLE TO REPLACE THE STORM SEWER USING IN HOUSE CREWS THAT CENTRAL CONNECTED SIXTH STREET TO FIFTH STREET, JUST WEST OF FIVE POINTS AT THE UNDERWOOD FUNERAL HOME, AND THAT WAS ABOUT $35,000 TO SAVINGS PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ON THE HORIZON. THE TOWN RUN CULVERT REPLACEMENT, SO WE OPENED UP BIDS FOR TOWN RUN TO BE REPLACED AND ACTUALLY WENT TO BORDER CONTROL THIS MORNING UNDERNEATH THE EAGLES BUILDING THAT WE NOW OWN, BASED ON THOSE BID PRICES WERE LOOKING AT REPLACING, UH, YOU KNOW, OR IF WE DO NEED TO REPLACE TALENT, TOM RUNNING OTHER AREAS ALL THE WAY FROM FIST STREET TO RIGHT OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL HERE AT SOUTH MAIN STREET THAT'S GOING TO COST ABOUT $3.5 MILLION. WITH THAT WE DO HAVE SOME INSPECTION REPORTS THAT SAY, HEY, PARTS OF THIS ARE GETTING CLOSE TO WHERE YOU GUYS NEED. YOU GUYS NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT REPLACING THAT YOU KNOW EVERYTHING'S RELATIVELY STRUCTURALLY SOUND, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT ON THE HORIZON. WHERE WITHIN THE NEXT 5 TO 10 YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE EXPANDED THAT $3.5 MILLION. WE'VE ALSO GOT COMING UP. HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR REMOVAL OF THE LOGJAMS ON MILL CREEK. RIGHT NOW WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT COST TO BE ABOUT $500,000 AND THEN SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR SIP INCLUDE THE BAR HAVEN DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH COULD, OR AT LEAST PRELIMINARILY HAVE A POND ON OVER WS PROPERTY TO DETAIN SOME OF THAT WATER BEFORE IT GETS TO THE BAR EDITION AS WELL. 
          THERE IS A UNDERSIZED STORM SEWER THAT GOES UNDER KENNY LANE. THAT WILL BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY PIPES SOME OF THAT WATER SO THAT THE INTERSECTION OF HICKORY DRIVE AND KENNY LANE ISN'T INUNDATED WITH TONS OF FLOODING. WHATEVER IT RAINS REALLY HARD, STORMWATER BASINS, GREENWOOD PARK AND THEN OTHER VARIOUS PUBLIC STORM SEWER INSTALLATIONS IN THE UPTOWN FOR THE MOST PART OF THE PUBLIC STORM SEWER INSTALLATION IN THE UPTOWN. UM, BEING THAT THE UPTIME IS A LITTLE BIT OLDER THAN WILL SAY NO VALLEY OR GREEN PASTURES. THERE'S BLOCKS OF ROADWAYS WITHOUT STORM SEWERS AT ALL. SO WE WERE LOOKING AT INSTALLING SOME STORM SEWERS ALONG THOSE FOLKS. CAN TYLER DOWNSPOUTS INTO HIM AND DO SOME OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT, LET ALONE IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE ALONG THE ROADWAYS, WHICH IS BENEFICIAL BECAUSE IT ADDS TO THE LIFE OF THE ROAD, SO WITH ALL THOSE THINGS. UM THE NEXT SLIDE JUST SHOWS THE PROPOSED INCREASE IN AS TERRY MENTIONED. THIS DID GO TO THE UTILITY RATE WORKING GROUP IN SEPTEMBER. UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT UM, LET'S SEE, IT WAS $6 PER YEAR. YOU FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T AWARE. AND ER YOU EACH HOUSE, WHETHER IT'S A ONE ACRE HOUSE OR A HOUSE ON A ONE ACRE LOT, OR ON AN EIGHTH OF AN ACRE. THEY EACH GET CHARGED $6 A MONTH WHERE THE ER YOU COMES INTO PLAY IS WHEN WE BUILD LIKE A WALMART. WALMART HAS 100 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS AREA THAN THE STANDARD HOUSE THAN WE BUILD THEM. 100 TIMES THIS MONTHLY ER, YOU BILL SO YOU CAN SEE HERE WE ARE $6 AND 2021 , $6 AND 2022. THEN WE'RE PROPOSING A DOLLAR INCREASE IN THE 23 75 CENTS INTO 24, THEN AN EXTRA 50 CENTS GOING INTO 2025. SO IT'S OUR PLAN TO WE KIND OF MISSED LAST LAST COUNCIL MEETING 
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AS WE'RE HOPING TO RUN THIS RELATIVELY SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THE BUDGETING PROCESS. UM WHAT, WHAT THIS WILL DO. AND I CAN UPDATE THIS SLIDE. MAYBE FOR THE NEXT ONE. I KIND OF THREW THIS TOGETHER AND I WAS LOOKING AT SOME NUMBERS AND THEY WERE 100% ACCURATE, BUT THE ONES THAT MATTER WHEN WE INCREASE THIS BY A DOLLAR WILL GET ANOTHER $190,000 WITHIN THE STORM WATER FUND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE BOTTOM LEFT, UM IN 2024 THAT WILL YIELD ANOTHER 342,020 25. 
          WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER 453,000 WHERE THAT RELATES IS THE CAPITAL PROJECTS SO OBVIOUSLY ARE EQUIPMENT IS PRETTY STANDARD OR IT STAYS PRETTY STABLE, BUT OUR OPERATIONS COSTS AS WE HIRE SOME ADDITIONAL STAFF TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THOSE IN HOUSE PROJECTS. YOU CAN SEE THAT NUMBERS JUMPED A LITTLE BIT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID ALL OF THIS MONEY WOULD BE ALLOCATED TOWARDS CAPITAL PROJECTS SO YOU CAN SEE HERE WE GO FROM 532,000 APOLOGIZE IF I CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THE POINTER, BUT CENTURY WE'RE DOWN TO NOT MUCH MONEY LEFTOVER AND 2024 2025 FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS SO ALL OF THIS MONEY WOULD GO DIRECTLY TOWARDS CAPITAL PROJECTS, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US AGAIN. MOST PROJECTS ARE UNFORTUNATELY ABOUT $500,000 . SO THAT WOULD LET US DO ONE PROJECT A YEAR, LET ALONE ANYTHING THAT OUR GUYS WOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE IN HOUSE, WHICH SOME OF THOSE STORM SEWERS WITHIN THE UPTOWN AREA. SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE KIND OF RIGHT DOWN RIGHT DOWN THEIR ALLEY, SO TO SPEAK, SO AGAIN, THE INCREASES OR NECESSARY AFTER TALKING WITH BRAD AND UTILITY RATE WORKING GROUP IN THESE INCREASES WILL GO DIRECTLY TOWARDS CAPITAL PROJECTS, WHICH ULTIMATELY WOULD BENEFIT ALL OF THE RESIDENTS OF MARYSVILLE. AND IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS, I WILL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. UM. WOULD YOU MIND GOING BACK TO THE MAYBE THREE SLIDES TO THE PROPOSED ADAMS THAT YOU THINK NEED TO BE DONE AND NO, NO BACK UP TO THE PROPOSED OKAY YESTERDAY AS A POINT OF REFERENCE, UM WE ALMOST ALL OF US HAD LIVED HERE. MOST OF US HAVE LIVED HERE FOR A LONG TIME. UM DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA APPROXIMATELY WHEN THE TOWN RUN AND AGAIN THE TOWN RUN GOES PAST THE HOSPITAL, THEN COMES TO SEVEN STATE MAKES THEM IMMEDIATE 90 DEGREE BECAUSE UNDER THE BUILDING, THEN THERE'S A SMALL OPEN SITE GOES ON. THE SEVEN GOES UNDER THE EAGLE. THEN UNDER THE MAIN STREET. THEN UNDER THE FORMER CITY HALL, THE USED TO BE THE BUICK DEALER, AND THEN IT GOES INTO, UM THEN GOES UNDER THE FIFTH STATE. ANY IDEA HOW MANY YEARS AGO THAT THEY ACTUALLY MADE THAT PORTION OF THE TOWN GUN? I'M JUST CURIOUS. IF SOMETHING OF THIS MAGNITUDE IT NOT HAVE THAT NUMBER RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I KNOW IN THE LATE NINETIES THAT, UM THERE WERE PORTIONS OF IT REPLACED UNDERNEATH SOME OF THE ROADWAYS. UM I ALSO KNOW THAT IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT'S DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION UNDERNEATH THE ROADWAYS, NOT WHERE WE REPLACED IT. BUT IN OTHER AREAS, SO ANYTHING I WOULD TELL YOU WOULD JUST BE AGHAST. BUT I WOULD ASSUME IT'S IN THAT THAT AT LEAST 100 YEAR RANGE. WE COULD LOOK AT SOME OLD AERIALS AND MAYBE TRY TO FIGURE IT. OUT THAT WAY, BUT I WOULD ASSUME IT'S AT LEAST IN THE 100 YEAR RANGE. I GUESS WE COULD FIGURE OUT HOW OLD YOU KNOW. SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS ARE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY , THE TOWN RUN WOULD HAVE BEEN PUT IN BEFORE THOSE BUILDINGS WERE CONSTRUCTED. BUT OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THERE IS A COST ASSOCIATED AND THINGS DON'T LAST INDEFINITELY. SO THIS IS THIS IS A BIG PROJECT AGAIN. 
          THERE IS AN INCREASE, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, NOW IS THE TIME TO START. SAVING UP FOR THAT, UM, WITH WITH THE INCREASE OF THE THAT IS PROPOSED AN EXCELLENT POINT YOU MAKE US SO AS PART OF THE TOWN RUN THE PROJECT THAT WE BID OUT FOR UNDERNEATH THE EAGLES. THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REPAIR IT VERSUS COMPLETELY TEAR IT OUT SORT OF REPAIR. IT WAS GOING TO BE $300,000 OR TO COMPLETELY REPLACE IT. IT WAS 500. THE REPAIRS ARE CONSULTANTS SAID WOULD LAST 20 YEARS WHERE WE'RE ENVISIONING? YOU KNOW IF WE COMPLETELY REPLACE IT. WE'RE LOOKING AT ANYWHERE FROM 75 TO 100 YEARS. SO FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW, IT SEEMED LIKE A NO BRAINER TO GO WITH THE COMPLETE REPLACEMENT JUST DUE TO THE EXTRA EXTRA DESIGN LIFE THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF A BRAND NEW COVER. OKAY THAT WAS MY ONLY COMMENT TO THE HEAD TO HEAD ON THAT ONE. I JUST HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT YEAH. THE ONLY THE ONLY COMMENT THAT I HAVE IS THAT I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO 
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RAISE THE FEE TO PAY. MY ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS AND IN MY WARD AND ERIN'S EXISTING PROPERTIES. 
          YOU CAN ASK FAULT OR CONCRETE OR GRAVEL YOUR WHOLE ENTIRE PROPERTIES LOT WITHOUT ANY ACCOUNTABILITY. AND MY CONCERN IS THAT ALL WATER RUNS SOMEWHERE. AND I'M ALSO CONCERNED THAT WE DO NOT HAVE AN ADEQUATE MY ESCAPE PLAN FOR COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES TO OR EVEN STREETSCAPES TO CONTROL ACCESS GROUNDWATER BEFORE IT ENDS INTO DRAINS. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO RAISE FEES ON RESIDENTS, I STILL BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD DO A BETTER JOB OF TRYING TO CONTROL THE ACCESS AMOUNT OF WATER. GOING INTO THESE STORM DRAINS GOING INTO OUR STREETS WHEN HARD SURFACES ARE BEING PUT DOWN. AND THAT IS MY CONCERN. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY CONCERN. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR IT. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB ON UM THE WAY WE HANDLE DEVELOPMENT AND NOT ONLY AREN'T ON DEVELOPMENT BUT ALSO HANDLE EXISTING PROPERTIES. WE HAVE HOME RULE. WE CAN STATE THAT IF SOMEBODY IS ADDING A PATIO OR DRIVEWAY OR SOMETHING IT CAN COME TO DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WERE ABLE TO DO THAT. UM WE DON'T DO THAT. AND SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS MOVING FORWARD. I HAVE DEBATED ABOUT THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION, WHETHER OR NOT TO VOTE FOR IT YET. UM, BUT SO THOSE ARE JUST MY CONCERNS MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU PRESENT. YEAH. REGARDING THE COMMERCIAL COMMENT. UM, MR BERGER. IT'S OUR CODE THAT IF YOU PUT IN A COMMERCIAL BUILDING YOU HAVE TO PUT IN CONCRETE OR ASPHALT, SO WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE DICTATING THAT AND IT ALSO DICTATES. ALL THE WATER RUNOFF, ETCETERA, SO THAT'S ONE OPINION. 
          SO JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHEN MR BERGER SPEAKS. HE'S NOT SPEAKING FOR ALL SEVEN. THAT'S ONE OPINION. THERE'S OTHER OPINIONS. I BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE HAVE FOR OUR COMMERCIAL IS ADEQUATE. SO I HAVE ALWAYS SPOKEN FOR MYSELF. AND IF YOU MAKE THAT COMING, AND IF YOU LOOK AT MEYER'S PARKING LOT, IT'S A FOUR SHEET OF ASPHALT WITH IRELAND BEDS. THERE WAS NO REASON WHY THOSE ISLAND BEDS WERE NOT BUILT WITH STORM WATER TO RUN INTO THEM. TO WATER THOSE TREES AND MAKE FLOWERBEDS LIKE YOU WOULD SEE IN COLUMBUS ON GAY STREET OR ANY OTHER COMMUNITY BEFORE ENDS UP IN A RETENTION POND BEFORE IT GOES OUT ON THE STREET OR ANYWHERE ELSE. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I ALWAYS SPEAK FOR MYSELF. AND IF AND THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS HAVE JUSTIFICATIONS FOR WHY I VOTE ON THINGS AND I'M JUST PROVING A POINT TO MYSELF THAT I BELIEVE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER. ON MY OPINION, WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS? OKAY WE HAVE A REQUEST TO WAIVE. THIRD READING. MOVED. ROLL CALL, SEYMOUR. YES MRS GROAT. MR BERGER? YES, MR REEMS. MR ROGERS? YES MR BURBEY? YES, MR CARPENTER? YES SEVEN YEARS. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR A SECOND READING. ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 
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28TH. ORDINANCE BE SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT A CAPITAL BUDGET FOR 2023. 
          ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS. YES JUST REAL QUICK AND I'LL SHIFTED OVER THE BREAD FOR A 2ND 1ST OFF . I WANT TO EXTEND THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN SENDING US INFORMATION REGARDING THE BUDGET THAT'S REALLY APPRECIATED. WE'VE HAD SOME MEETINGS. IT'S WORKED OUT WELL FOR US, OF COURSE, THAT THE WORK SESSION LAST WEEK BRAD INTRODUCED UM, SOME AMENDMENTS THAT WERE ARE ARE NECESSARY TO ACCOMMODATE PROJECTS AND SO WE WANTED TO PRESENT THAT TO COUNSEL. I ALSO WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IF THERE ARE SOME AMENDMENTS, AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THE BUDGET TO BE AMENDED TO MEET WHAT BRAD HAD PRESENTED THERE MAY ALSO BE AMENDMENTS EVEN AT THE NEXT MEETING, SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK YOU KNOW THAT THAT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TONIGHT AND WITH THESE AMENDMENTS IS GOING TO BE THE FINAL PRODUCT. WE CONTINUE TO HAVE DIALOGUE WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. SO, BRAD I'LL SHIFT IT OVER 
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TO YOU TO SEE WHAT ANYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE TO ADD THIS EVENING PAYMENTS UP HERE. SO UH, YEAH. 
          CAPITAL BUDGET. I SENT YOU THE EMAIL. THAT WAS THE RED LINE VERSION. WHAT I HAVE FOR YOU IS THE. CLEAN VERSION, THE ONE THAT WOULD GO IN YOUR BOOK. SO I'LL HAND THAT OUT TO YOU, BUT I GUESS IT WAS PAUSE HERE, YOU KNOW, ALAN, YOU SAY IN EMAIL TODAY DISCUSSED WHAT WAS BEING REMOVED. SLASH MOVED AROUND. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THAT BE A GOOD TIME. I DO THINK IT'S FAIRLY SAFE TO SAY THAT WHEN WE GO INTO THE THIRD READING THAT I WILL BE REQUESTING AMENDMENTS AT THAT TIME. I'M SURE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT QUITE FRANKLY, THE OTHER FACT IS THAT. HAVE BY THAT POINT IN TIME, PRETTY GOOD IDEA. INCOME TAXES THAT AND THEY WANT TO UPDATE AN ESTIMATED 2022 RECEIPTS, UM IN THE BUDGET AND SEE WHERE THAT IS. SO IN OTHER WORDS, I WOULD FEEL SAFE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THE IDEA THAT YOU MAY NOT MAKE A FINAL DECISION TODAY MAKE THAT FINAL DECISION AT THE TERRITORY. BETTER. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          I LIKE THAT. IT'S THE SAME WAY. YEAH IT'S JUST A CLEAN ONE THAT WOULD GO IN YOUR BUDGET BOOK WOULDN'T PUT THE RED LINE IN YOUR BUDGET PART. SO I GUESS JUST TO KIND OF GET THIS BALL GOING. ALAN DID YOU WANT TO BRING UP THE ITEMS THAT YOU SURE, SURE. MINOR, PRETTY SUBTLE FACADE GRANT IN THE PAST OR MENTIONED GRANT HAS BEEN 200,000 . I KNOW WE AUTHORIZED AGREED TO AMOUNT THIS PAST YEAR HELP YOU VERY GOOD PROJECT, BUT IT'S SLATED AT 100.5000 FOR NEXT YEAR. I STILL SUPPORT THAT THAT REMAINED AT $200,000. OFFERING FOR MATCHING GRANT. HMM. SO THAT THAT WAS ONE ITEM THAT I SEND IT IN EMAIL TO BOTH BRAD AND CARRY. AND THEN I HAD ONE OTHER ITEM FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW ALAN THAT FACADE IMPROVEMENT GRANT PROGRAM. THE WINDOWS THAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE AT THE CORNER OF FIFTH AND MAIN ARE A DIRECT RESULT OF THAT PROPERTY OWNER HAVING THE ABILITY THROUGH THE FUNDING OF THE FACADE. GRANT PROGRAM TO BE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT PROJECT OVER. OVER THE LAST 14 OR FIVE YEARS, AND WE'VE DONE THE GRANT. CONTRIBUTED 56 700,000 BY NOW. PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN THAT BALLPARK. DEFINITE LEAST. 1.4 MILLION AND IMPROVEMENTS IN THE YEP. SO WE NEED TO CONTINUE THIS. WE'VE HAD SOME GREAT PROJECTS DONE. UM, SO EVEN IF WE ONE OUT OF GOOD THINGS TO DO THAT ARE THAT ARE THEY HAVE MERIT TO THEM. WE COULD REALLY LOOK AT THE USE OF THAT MONEY FOR ADDITIONAL THINGS IN THE WAY OF BUILDING SAFETY OR ETCETERA. SO ANYWAY, I STILL THINK THAT 1,400,000 IS IMPORTANT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU HAVE ONE OTHER REMARKS, AND THAT WAS A REGARD TO $50,000 IN, UH, TRAIL PAVING. I WASN'T AWARE I WASN'T WASN'T SURE WHETHER THAT IS NEW PAVING OR EFFECTS MAINTENANCE JUST TO CLARIFY BECAUSE THAT DID GO BACK AND FORTH IN THE WORK SESSION, SO WE HAVE 50,000 IN THERE FOR, UM WHAT WOULD BE NEW PAVING? AND THEN WE HAD 200,000 RIGHT, GERMANY 200,000 THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ABOUT. PARKING LOT AND TRAIL, PAVING THAT THAT WOULD BE LIKE REPAVING THAT AND WE REDUCED THE 200 TO 100. WE CUT THE 50. OKAY THEORY IF THE CAPITAL BUDGET WAS AS CURRENTLY PRESENTED, THERE WOULD BE NO NEW TRAIL PAVING IN 2023, BUT THERE WOULD STILL BE UM REPAVING OF CERTAIN TRAILS BASED ON NEED AND CORRECT. OKAY, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. JUST SORRY. GO AHEAD, AND 
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I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I KNOW I SUPPORT ALAN AND BRINGING TO $200,000. MY ONLY CONCERN IN MY CONCERN HAS ALWAYS BEEN WITH THE FACADE IMPROVEMENT GRANT IS THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TEETH IN THE FACADE IMPROVEMENT GRANT. I DO AGREE THAT RESTORING WINDOWS THAT ARE ORIGINAL TO AN 18 66 BUILDING. THAT'S THE CRITERIA IN THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT, AND THE CITY SHOULD CREATE A STANDARD BY DOING THAT. BUT I DON'T AGREE WITH IS THAT THE SAME? THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET CAN GET APPROVED FOR RIPPING OUT THEIR WINDOWS AND PUTTING VINYL IN THAT'S NOT WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING, WHEREAS WE SUPPORT HISTORICAL PRESERVATION. I DO NOT THINK THE PROPERTY THE FACADE IMPROVEMENT GRANT SECURES AND PROTECTS PROPERTY VALUES LONG TERM THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY CONCERN ABOUT THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT. WE HAVE SEEN OTHER HISTORICAL DISTRICTS IN THE LAST 20 YEARS HAVE GROWN LEAPS AND BOUNDS. UM SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS ON MY OPINION. IS WE WOULD REWRITE THE FACADE IMPROVEMENT GRANT TO GIVE IT MORE TEETH BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE FACADE IMPROVEMENT, GRANT SAYS. YOU CAN EITHER RESTORE WINDOWS REPLACED WINDOWS. YOU CAN EITHER DO THIS OR DO THAT DO THIS OR DO THAT? SO WE STRENGTHEN IT. WE ADD MORE MONEY TO IT. AND THEN WE ALSO OUTLINED THE ARCHITECTURE OF EACH STRUCTURE. ONCE WE OUTLINE THE ARCHITECTURE OF EACH STRUCTURE IN THE UPTOWN OR IN HISTORICAL DISTRICT THAT FITS THAT IS GETTING THIS FUNDING THE PAINT COLORS, THE DESIGN AND THE CHARACTER OF WHAT THE BOARD CHOOSES. PUT ON. THAT STRUCTURE HAS TO FIT THE ARCHITECTURE OF THAT STRUCTURE RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T IDENTIFY THE ARCHITECTURE OF ANY OF THE BUILDINGS. SO EVERYTHING IS UP TO AN OPINION OF HOW THINGS LOOK. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IS A GOOD MODEL FOR SUCCESS FOR THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT, MOVING FORWARD. SO THAT IS MY ONLY, UM , THAT THAT IS MY OPINION OF HOW WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE FACADE IMPROVEMENT GRANT MOVING FORWARD. AND ONE OTHER THING REALLY QUICKLY. UM I DO HAVE CONCERNS OF 175,000 BEING PAID FOR THE MURAL ON THE GRANARY. I THINK THAT THAT MONEY SHOULD BE SAVED FOR, UM, LIKE, IF STILL WATER PASSES TONIGHT, WE HAVE AS A CITY AN ISSUE WITH CONNECTIVITY AND GETTING RESIDENTS FROM POINT A TO POINT B WITHOUT A VEHICLE. I WISH WE COULD PUT FUNDS OF THAT OF THAT SIZE INTO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. TO HIRE CONSULTANTS TO LOOK AT WALK ABILITY. AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY ON DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THE CITY. IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OR TUNNELS SO THAT WHEN DEVELOPMENT DOES HAPPEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 33 THERE IS A PLAN TO DISCUSS HOW WE'RE GOING TO CONNECT, YOU KNOW, CONNECTIVITY, YOU KNOW TO THE UPTOWN LONG TERM SO THAT WHEN DEVELOPMENTS DEVELOPERS DO COME TO THE CITY OF ARIZONA, SAID HE WOULD WANT TO BUILD THIS. THEN WE CAN SAY TO THE DEVELOPER. WELL THIS IS WHERE OUR CONNECTIVITY IS. OUR THIS IS HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST. WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO ALLOCATE FUNDING FOR THESE TYPES OF, UM PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE. THOSE ARE MY ONLY TWO CAN. THERE'S ARE SOME OF MY CONCERNS. I'M SORRY. I HAVE NOT MET WITH YOU YET. I HAVEN'T HAD TIME. BUT I AM PLANNING ON MEETING WITH YOU ABOUT SOME OTHER ITEMS. BUT THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT I JUST HAD CONCERNS ABOUT. THANK YOU. CLARIFY. MAYBE STAFF CAN MAKE SURE I'M CORRECT ON THIS. I BELIEVE THE 175,000 FOR THE HERITAGE SILO SITE. IS JUST A PAINTED WHITE AND CLEAN IT UP AND IMPROVE THE STRUCTURE ITSELF TO BE ABLE TO AND HERE THE PAINT TO IT. AM I CORRECT? THAT'S THE COVER WHATEVER COSTS ARE NOT COVERED BY THE CAPITAL BILL FUNDING WE RECEIVED AND THEN THE BROWNFIELD GRANT MONEY. IT'S NOT ACTUALLY TO DO A MURAL MURAL. 
          CLEAN IT UP 234 YEARS OF WHETHER IT BE A LOT OF IT PUBLIC INPUT IN REGARDS TO THAT, BUT IT'S JUST TO MAKE IT LOOK REASONABLE AND AESTHETICALLY PLEASING. THANK YOU. JUST SO I GUESS. TO ALAN'S COMMENT ABOUT, UM THE PERSON IMPROVEMENT GRANT. I AGREE, AND I ALSO AGREE WITH DONALD YEAH. YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME CRITERIA WHERE THE IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING AND THE DISTRICT. YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE INCENTIVIZING. UM. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN WORK OUT THOSE DETAILS LIKE IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, BUT UM I GUESS MY BIGGER QUESTION IS THIS IS PAID FOR BY NON TAX REVENUE. UM AND I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW OUR INVESTMENT ON THE MONEY THAT WE HAD PUT ASIDE LIKE FOR THE WATER TREATMENT 
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PLANT, AND NOW WE SPENT A LOT OF THAT MONEY. SO DO WE HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE? IF WE WANTED TO IMPROVE IT. YES WE SO LOOSE ON. AS WE'VE CONTINUED THE BUDGET AS EVOLVED, I BELIEVE THAT HE WOULD HAVE THIS MONEY AVAILABLE IN THE BUDGET JUST TO IMPROVE OUTRIGHT SO LET'S BE TRUE ON THAT. UM WITH YOUR QUESTION ABOUT NON TAX REVENUES, ACTUALLY. DUE TO THE INTEREST RATES INCREASING, WE'VE ACTUALLY SEEN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN OUR INTEREST RECEIPTS. AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, I JUST RECENTLY TRANSFERRED $9 MILLION FROM OUR CHECKING ACCOUNT TO OUR INVESTMENTS. UM YES. THE AMOUNT WE CAN INVEST IS BASED ON IS BASED ON BASED FUND BALANCES HAVE INCREASED THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACTUALLY INVEST MORE MONEY, SO I ANTICIPATE EVEN MORE QUIETLY REVENUE COMING IN FROM THOSE SOURCES, WHICH TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE IN THE 22 BUDGET AT THE TIME, BECAUSE LITERALLY, THAT WAS INFORMATION. I FOUND OUT TALKING TO OUR INVESTMENT ADVISOR IN THE LAST WEEK. OKAY SO THE FUNDS COULD BE AVAILABLE ? YES, I WOULD BELIEVE THEY ARE AVAILABLE AS REVENUES AND ALSO AVAILABLE AS APPROPRIATIONS. IF THAT'S A CHANGE THAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO PROVE AS PART OF ACTIVELY THE ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF YOU. WE CERTAINLY CAN ECONOMY TO IF WE WANTED TO. LET'S SAY WE WANTED TO UPDATE THE FACADE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. AH IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO. COULD WE UPDATED IN JANUARY. WELL I MEAN, I BROUGHT THIS UP. BUT CERTAINLY ON THIS BIKE, I YOU KNOW, WE APPROVED THE RESOLUTION OF 2 2022. MADE CHANGES TO THE FACADE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. I WOULD ASSUME IT WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE FOR US TO KNOW. NO NO ISSUE AT ALL, EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO ASSIGN IT. TO COMMITTEE OF COUNCIL TO WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS. WE COULD DO THAT. 
          THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY WE NEED TO TIE THE FUNDING. HMM WE GO BACK AND ORANGES THERE. YEAH, YEAH. IF WE DECIDE TO SEPARATE THINGS. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. I SO IN ORDER TO AMEND THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT. WE NEED TO CHANGE THE I SUPPOSE YOU'D HAVE TO COCOA AND CHANGING THE 1 25 TO 200,000. THAT'S RIGHT. EMOTIONS OKAY. YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION NOW? OKAY AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON OTHER POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS AS WE GO THROUGH, SO WE HAVE. WE ACTUALLY HAVEN'T MADE AN AMENDMENT. YES. SO YOU'RE RIGHT. WE NEED TO JUST OKAY. JUST PLUG THAT IN. TO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. THERE YOU GO ON IT. WE COULD AS LONG AS THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL. WELL I MEAN, IT'S I GET IT IF THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL AND I SEE A LOT OF HEADS NODDING, BUT YOU GOT TO VOTE ON IT EVENTUALLY. SO IF YOU JUST PLUG THAT IN, I THINK YOU PUT ON IT. SO HOW MANY DISAGREE, RIGHT? YEAH CAN WE JUST GET A SHOW OF HANDS WHO WOULD DISAGREE WITH RAISING THAT TO 200,000? OKAY SO WE'LL WORK THAT IN THAT'S PRETTY OFFICIAL. 
          OKAY SO FURTHER QUESTIONS AND AMENDMENTS. OKAY SO WE HAVE ONE AMENDMENT AS PRESENTED. AND ADJUSTED FOR THE FACADE IMPROVEMENT GRANT TO 200,000. THAT IS BEFORE US. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT? SO MOVED. OKAY ROLL CALL THE WHOLE OF THEM, MRS GROAT? YES MR BERGER? YES MR REEMS. MR. ROCHE BURBEY? YES MR CARPENTER? YES, MR SEYMOUR? SEVEN YEARS. OKAY SO THAT MOTION CARRIES WE'RE STILL ON SECOND READING, SO I WILL OPEN THIS UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. THERE'S ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS ON THE CAPITAL BUDGET. OKAY? ANY ADDITIONAL COUNSEL OR ADMINISTRATIVE COMMENTS. COMMENTS JUST COUNT COMMENTS. 
          THERE IS ONE ITEM IN THERE THAT THIS ISN'T DOLLARS AND CENTS RELATED, BUT THERE WAS A 
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BASKETBALL COURT FOR A LOCATION TO BE DETERMINED. FROM AWARD TO PERSPECTIVE, LIKE TO RAISE MY HAND ON THAT ONE. YEAH. GREENWOOD PARK. UH YEAH. IS THERE A ALWAYS THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S FOR ERRANDS CONCERNED? MM HMM. OKAY I GUESS I WANTED TO. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A LOGJAM REMOVAL. SO WE'VE GOT A PLACEHOLDER HERE. WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW MUCH THAT'S GOING TO BE. WE'VE GOT 500,000 IN THERE. UM. I DON'T KNOW, LIKE KIND OF FEEL LIKE THAT MIGHT BE TOO MUCH UNTIL WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION UNTIL WE FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE ACTUAL COST. I THINK YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD MAYBE REDUCE THAT DOWN. AND THEN. AS WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND GET MORE INFORMATION ON THE COST. THEN WE LOOK AT WHAT THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE. I WOULD RATHER GO HIGH ON THE EXPENSE. AND THEN IF IT DOESN'T COME IN THAT HIGH, AND WE ONLY SPEND 400,000. IT'S $100,000 WE'VE GOT TO DO WITH. IT'S A LOT EASIER TO USE THE MONEY LATER THAN FIND IT IF WE NEED IT. I GUESS MY KIDS IS MORE WITH THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO COST SHARE SINCE WE HAVEN'T WORKED THAT OUT, YEAH. I DON'T. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH INFORMATION. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OUT THERE. AND THAT'S THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION YOU'VE GOT RIGHT NOW. SO THERE'S NOT MUCH TO DEBATE. I KNOW IT NEEDS TO GET DONE, DOESN'T IT? TRUSTEE YEAH. 30 YEARS. YEAH. I WILL SAY SO. JUST TO BE CLEAR, OF COURSE , AIR FUNDS THAT WERE USED FOR THESE MONIES FOR THIS PROJECT, SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT WASN'T DESIRE TO REDUCE IT. INCREASING IT LATER ON CONCERNED, I DON'T BELIEVE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE UPWARDS OF 2.4 MILLION AVAILABLE AND HAVE FUN. I HAVE NOT ALLOCATED 100% OF THE RESPONSE AT THIS TIME WE HAVE UNTIL THE END OF 20 24TH SPEND THOSE COUNSELORS RUSH SO JUST TO BE CLEAR. LAURA WOULD NOT OPINION. 
          CAUSALLY SIGNIFICANT CONCERN, AT LEAST FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THE CAPITAL BUDGET. OKAY THIS WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING ON NOVEMBER 
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28TH. ORDINANCE SEE SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT AN ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET FOR 2023 ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS, BRAD ANYTHING ON THIS ONE. YEAH THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE OPERATING YES. SO UM, WELL, WE HAVE TO INCREASE BY 75 K HERE, SO THIS WILL BE THE NEW PAGE FOR YOUR CAPITAL BUDGET WITHIN YOUR BUDGET BOOK. JUST ADD 75 K AND EXPENSES. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. MHM THE ONLY CHANGES I HAVE IT THIS TIME. OKAY? SO THIS IS THE AMENDMENT AS ADJUSTED WITH THE 75,000. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THIS LEGISLATION IS SET FOR MOVE TO HIM IN THE LEGISLATION. ROLL CALL, MR BERGER? YES, MR REEMS? YES YES, MR BURBEY? YES MR CARPENTER? YES SEYMOUR. MRS. GROAT YES. SEVEN. YES SO THAT MOTION CARRIES ITS AMENDED WERE ON SECOND READING. ARE THERE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS? OKAY? THORNTON JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT, BASED ON THE HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR LOGJAM REMOVAL. WHY DON'T WE PUT 10,000 TO $15,000 ASIDE TO TAKE CARE OF THIS ANNUALLY INSTEAD OF US BEING A HALF A MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT. WANT ME TO. IT'S ACTUALLY NOT THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. IT IS SOUTH. OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE IN PARIS TOWNSHIP AND IS UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE SOIL AND 
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WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. AND THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. UM SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN. KICKED AROUND FOR A WHILE, AND NOBODY HAS EVER COME UP WITH A TRUE DOLLAR AMOUNT. AS TO WHAT THE FIX IS. UM PROBABLY IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. WE'VE GOTTEN PRETTY ACCURATE AS TO WHAT THE FIX IS GOING FOR GOING FORWARD, AND HOPEFULLY THEY'RE THE, UH, ALL THE ENTITIES START PUTTING SOME MONEY IN THERE ONCE. IT'S CORRECTED THE FIRST TIME AND I CAN I CAN SPEAK TO THIS AS WELL . SO AT LEAST IN THE LAST MEETING I WAS INVOLVED WITH. THIS IS GOING TO OPERATE SOMEWHERE TO A DITCH MAINTENANCE PROJECT THAT YOU'D HAVE IN, I GUESS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, AND THERE WAS A MAINTENANCE COMPONENT OF THAT'S OF THE CITY OR THE CITY, THE COUNTY. I BELIEVE IT WAS ABLE TO COVER THE LOGJAM REMOVAL, BUT THEN THEY WOULD REACH OUT AND DO A PETITION PROJECT FOR THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE. SOUNDS LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMEWHERE COORDINATION. OTHERWISE LONG TERM. YEAH YEAH, THERE NEEDS TO BE ACTION IS WHAT THERE NEEDS TO BE, UM, WE IN THIS SITUATION WHERE REALLY NOTHING MORE THAN A LANDOWNER DONATING MONEY TO THE TO THE COUNTY TO TAKE CARE OF THE SITUATION. SHOULDN'T SAY DONATING BUT COVERING OUR COSTS ARE OUR COST OF THE EXPENSE FAIR SHARE. YES AND HOW WE CALCULATE THAT FAIR SHARE IS UP FOR NEGOTIATION. BUT WE RE BENEFITS FROM IT. YES, WE DO REAP BENEFITS FROM. ANY OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS OR CITIZEN COMMENTS. OKAY THIS WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 28. 
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ORDINANCE D SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR 2023. 
          ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS. YEAH. SO AGAIN. PLEASE COPY AND GOING TO WORK. EVERYBODY. AH BUT I DID WANT TO BRING SOMETHING ELSE UP WHILE I BROUGHT THIS UP IDENTICAL, DEFINITELY BUDGET RELATED. SO ANY EMAIL WENT OUT FROM OML TODAY IT WAS CALLED THE ACTION EMAILS. SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN. THIS INVOLVES THE POTENTIAL INCREASE TO THE EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTIONS WERE HIGH POLICE FIRE PENSION THAT'S ON GOING FOR THIRD HEARING. OF COURSE, JUST TO BE CLEAR TO EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM, LISTENING , UM NOT OPINING ON THIS UNDERSTATING THE FACT THAT IF THIS WERE TO PASS THE HOUSE AND SENATE, OF COURSE GET SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR, THIS WOULD INCREASE OR CAUSED BY AN ESTIMATED AND THIS IS BEFORE SOME POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL STAFF HAVE BEEN ADDED IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, $325,000 TO OUR POLICE FIRED BUDGET, WHICH, OF COURSE, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR GENERAL FUND BALANCE, AS ESTIMATED THE BUDGET WE DO NOT THEY WILL. YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN THE $6 MILLION GENERAL, SO THIS IS ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE OF OBVIOUSLY SEE WHAT THIS GIRL'S, BUT UNFORTUNATELY PROBABLY APPROVAL POINT OF VIEW. YOU ALL OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE BUDGET APPROVED FOR THIS ENDS UP IN THE LAME DUCK SESSION, MOST LIKELY JOB TYPE OF THINGS THAT YOU NEED BLIND THROUGH THIS, UM, STILL HAVE SOMETHING KIND OF COME OUT OF LEFT FIELD. SO ANYWAY, DEFINITELY WANT TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT AS WE APPROVED THIS. MM HMM. OKAY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. TWO OF EMOTION, AMEND THE LEGISLATION AS SET FORTH SO MOVED ROLL CALL, MR REEMS? YES. YES MR BURBEY? YES MR CARPENTER SEYMOUR. MRS GROAT? YES MR BERGER? YES. SEVEN. YES. OKAY, SO AMENDMENT. HIS PAST. THIS IS THE SECOND READING. ARE THERE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS RELATED TO THE APPROPRIATIONS? OKAY THIS 
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WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 28. ORDINANCE E SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING TO AMEND ORDINANCE 7 2022. YOU WILL COMPENSATION FOR ALL CITY EMPLOYEES FOR YEAR 2023 ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS NOTHING PRESENT. UH NO CHANGES HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED SO FAR TO THIS ONE. ARE THERE ANY COUNCIL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE. 
          CITIZEN COMMENTS ON THE COMPENSATION LIMITS. OKAY THIS WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING 
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ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 28TH. ORDINANCE F THIRD READING TITLE ONLY TO AMEND SECTION 9 25.5 E FOUR APPLICATION FOR OUTDOOR WATERING OF THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE BY ADDING A DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSION OF AN APPLICATION FOR WASTEWATER BILLING CREDIT. 
          ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS. NOTHING FURTHER. COUNCIL. MOTION OF PEARS. MR PRESIDENT MAKE A MOTION TO PASS ORDNANCE F WE'LL CALL MR ROUSH. YES MR BURBEY. MR CARPENTER? YES SEYMOUR? MRS GROAT? YES MR BERGER? YES, MR REEMS, SEVEN YES MOTION PERIODS. ORDINANCE G THIRD READING TITLE, 
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ONLY TO ACCEPT THE ANNEXATION OF CERTAIN TERRITORY CONTAINING 263.25 ACRES IN PARIS TOWNSHIP UNION COUNTY TO THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, OHIO. ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS. I DO HAVE A FEW COMMENTS IF YOU DON'T MIND. UM THIS IS BEEN QUITE A PROCESS AND I WANTED TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION. JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHERE WE'RE AT. I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND SPEAKING FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. THE FIRST OFF I WANT TO DO THANK EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM WHETHER YOU ARE A RESIDENT OF MARYSVILLE OF WHETHER YOU'RE NOT A RESIDENT OF MARYSVILLE, YOUR INPUT ON DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN INVALUABLE AND WE APPRECIATE IT. IT'S UM OBVIOUSLY FROM YOUR INPUT. THERE'S BEEN MANY DISCUSSIONS AND MANY THINGS ADJUSTED AS A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT, BUT I WANTED TO SPEAK TO SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE WE'RE AT. AND THEN YOU KNOW WHATEVER HAPPENS FROM HERE. IS FINE AND IN PUBLIC UTILITIES, UM FROM A UTILITY AVAILABILITY PERSPECTIVE. THIS IS ONE OF THREE AREAS RIGHT FOR THE BEST SETUP FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN MARYSVILLE, THE OTHERS BEING MARYSVILLE EAST, WHICH WE'RE STILL WAITING ON SOME SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENTS TO OCCUR TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, AND AMRHEIN MEADOWS ARE THE OTHERS. THE CITY HAS INVESTED ABOUT $45,000 IN SANITARY SEWER OVER SIZING. AH AS A PART OF THE NEW KROGER DEVELOPMENT AND BETHEL WOODS TO SUPPORT THE GROWTH TO THE WEST. UTILITY CAPACITY FEES. THE CITY WILL COLLECT $8.3 MILLION OVER THE BUILD OUT OF THE STILLWATER DEVELOPMENT IN CAPACITY FEES. 
          AND ANNUAL UTILITY CHARGES ARE ESTIMATED JUST UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS IN 2029, THEN SUBSEQUENT YEARS AFTER THAT, THE EXACT NUMBER IS $988,277. YOU KNOW, WE VISITED THE WATER PLANT JUST BEFORE WE CAME HERE TONIGHT. WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY ABOUT A $50 MILLION DEVELOPMENT AND ON TOP AND IN THE IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THAT. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO RAISE UTILITY RATES TO BUILD THE WATER PLANT THAT'S UNHEARD OF TODAY. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY UNHEARD OF. THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. THE RATES ARE NOT BEING RAISED THEIR STAIN WHERE THEY ARE AND WERE ABLE TO BUILD A FACILITY LIKE THAT. BUT PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE UTILITY FEES THAT COME WITH DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS. OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS DEVELOPMENT MEETS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS FOR SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA AND PROVIDES A CITY WITH SMART GROWTH TOWARDS TOWARDS THE WEST. THIS DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES A VARIETY OF HOUSING OPTIONS AT DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS TO SUPPORT THE DEMAND IN THE AREA. PER THE APPROVED COMPREHENSIVE PLANNED THE RECOMMENDED SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL CHARACTERISTICS 
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INCLUDE ALLOWABLE GROSS DENSITY , WHICH INCLUDES 3 TO 6 UNITS PER ACRE, AND THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT HAS 3.7 UNITS PER ACRE. SUGGESTED YOU USE IS IN THIS AREA. UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT'S SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UM DUPLEXES SCHOOLS, ETCETERA. BUT WAY AND TRAFFIC THAT'S BEEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONES THAT HAS COME UP AND WE'VE HAD WE'VE MADE STRONG INROADS WITH OH DOT OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS, WHICH IS REALLY VERY UNUSUAL, BUT I THINK OH DOT EVEN SEES THE IMPORTANCE UM, BUT THE DEVELOPER HAS COMMITTED $2.5 MILLION AND NECESSARY ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND THEN ADDITIONAL LEFT TURN LANE AT THE U. S 33 EXIT RAMP ON THE NORTHWEST PARKWAY BEFORE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS BEFORE PEOPLE START LIVING IN THE DEVELOPMENT. ADDITIONAL DAY ONE. IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE A RIGHT TURN LANE AT STATE ROUTE 2 45 ON THE NORTHWEST PARKWAY. A LEFT TURN LINE FROM STATE ROUTE 2 45 INTO THE STILLWATER FARMS DEVELOPMENT. AND A LEFT TURN LANE FROM STATE ROUTE 2 45 ONTO THE U. S 33 WESTBOUND RAMP. TRAFFIC IMPACT CONTRIBUTIONS THROUGHOUT THE DURATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT WILL STILL INCLUDE $785 PER HOUSE FOR A TOTAL OF AN ADDITIONAL $500,000 TO ADDRESS ANY ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE FUTURE. AS THE CITY SEES NECESSARY. TOTAL TRAFFIC CONTRIBUTION $3 MILLION. MY FEAR A LITTLE BIT HERE IS IF NOTHING HAPPENS. IT'S NOT IN THE CITY. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE DEALING WITH THIS AREA. SOMEBODY ELSE IS GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. 
          ECONOMICS PROPERTY TAX, THE CITY WILL COLLECT 245,000 BY 2030 AND IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS AND ALL JURISDICTIONS WILL COLLECT A TOTAL OF 3,261,005. BY 2030. INCOME TAX. THE CITY WILL COLLECT 792,500. BY 2029 IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS. ENVIRONMENTAL AND STORM WATER, AND THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERNS BUT UNDERSTAND. IN THE AREA OF WETLANDS SIMILAR TO MOST DEVELOPMENTS OF THIS SIZE, THE DEVELOPER WILL BE ADDRESSING THE WETLAND MITIGATION THROUGH THE U. S. ARMY CORPS AND THROUGH THE OHIO E P A THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THE CITY NAVIGATING THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH THE EXISTING WETLANDS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN INNOVATION PARK SAME THING. 
          STORM WATER. THE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPER WILL BE REQUIRED TO MEET THE CITY AND THE OHIO EPA'S REQUIREMENTS ON STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. AND I THINK WE'VE SEEN FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS. 
          THIS IS THE ADMINISTRATION'S VIEW. I'VE WE'VE LISTENED AND WE TOTALLY AGREE WITH SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORTH, WHICH HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THESE, UH, THIS SOLUTION AND WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TONIGHT, OF COURSE, THE ADMINISTRATION WILL SUPPORT YOUR DECISION, HOWEVER. UM DEVELOPMENT OF THE WEST THAT WE'VE SET UP TO DO IS THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AND IF IT'S TURNED DOWN, NOBODY ELSE IS GONNA BRING A DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST. YOU MIGHT AS WELL SHUT IT OFF. SO THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I HAD A BALL QUESTION REAL QUICK, THE INVESTMENT THAT WE MADE IN UTILITY OVER SIZING THE SERVICE AREA WAS HOW MUCH 5001 UTILITY OVER SIZING WAS 45,000. SO IT WAS JUST OVER SIZING THE PIPING AS THE KROGER DEVELOPMENT WENT IN AND THINGS WE OVERSIZED IT BECAUSE WE ENVISIONED, UM, DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST CHEAPER TO DO IT. THEN DIG IT UP AND EXACTLY BIGGER STEP IN NOW. OKAY YEAH. THANK YOU. I SPOKE A WEEK AGO, UM TO OUR WORK SESSION. ABOUT SITUATIONS IN WHICH MY INSTINCTS VARIANCE WITH FACTS. 
          AS THEY BECOME REVEALED. MY INSTINCTS ARE STILL. THAT I DON'T LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT 
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WHERE IT IS. HOWEVER. THREE WEEKS AGO, I SPOKE NEGATIVELY ABOUT THIS ANNEXATION AND REZONING, BUT AFTER COMMUNICATING WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS, CITY STAFF AND HEARING NEW INFORMATION FROM THE STATE. I WILL BYPASS HOW I FEEL AND GO TO HOW MY HEAD TELLS ME I SHOULD GO. I WILL VOTE FOR THIS ZONING AND ANNEXATION AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF AGAIN. MY INSTINCTS SAY NO. BUT MY HEAD SAYS EVERYTHING EVERY TIME WE PEEL THAT ONION. THE FACTS SAY THIS IS A GOOD DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. THANK YOU. DEFINITELY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, HANK. OKAY SO FOR MONTHS I HAVE BEEN ASKING. SHOW ME THE JOBS. SHOW ME THE JOBS. 
          WE'LL FINALLY FINALLY LAST WEEK . UM SOME OF THE JOBS FOR MADE AVAILABLE AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU START TO ENABLE THEM AND THEN YOU NEED TO ASK SUBSEQUENT QUESTIONS AND EVERYTHING. SO THE WAY THAT THE STATE LOOKS AT JOBS , IT LOOKS AT JOBS. BASIC COAT. OKAY WE'RE IN THE 43040 ZIP CODE . NOW YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND. THIS IS NOT ONLY MARYSVILLE 43. OH, FOUR. OH YEAH. ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE DOES INCLUDE HONDA. AND IT DOES INCLUDE THE HONDA SUPPLIERS, SO THAT'S HOW FAR THE 4304 ZIP GOES GOES. YEAH IT, UM, GETS CLOSE TO MAGNETIC EXPERIENCE ON THE OTHER SIDE. IT DOES GO CLOSE TO THE DELAWARE BORDER AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE, IT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO 42. SO FOR THREE OR FOUR IS A FAIRLY LARGE ZIP CODE. SO IF THE STATE MAKES STATISTICS AVAILABLE, THEY SHOW OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, AND IT WAS THE ONE THAT WAS KIND ENOUGH TO WORK WITH ME ON THAT ONE BECAME UP WITH 6000 JOBS OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS 6000 FROM 2020 FROM 2020 2011 TO 2021 6000 JOBS, OKAY? MANY THEN MOVED ON TO THE COUNTY. OKAY AND I ASKED THE COUNTY HOW MANY DWELLINGS DID WE ADD OVER THAT SAME TIME PERIOD, AND THE COUNTY TOLD ME THAT OVER THAT SAME TIME PERIOD BE THEIR COUNTY, ADDED 3634 DWELLINGS. 6 3034 OVER THAT SAME AREA OVER THE CHAMPION PERIOD OF TIME, OKAY? IF WE ADD TO THAT WHAT THE CITY ALREADY HAS APPROVED? YEAH IN, UM, TO BE BUILT IN UH, WELL, ACTUALLY, IT WAS APPROVED IN 2021 IN 2021. THE CITY APPROVED 1089 DWELLINGS. YEAH THOSE SHOULD HAVE WARRANTS THAT 300 THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER CLOSE TO REMAIN, AND THOSE WERE ADDITIONAL ONES OVER AT THE FLATS BECAUSE FROM BENNY'S, THOSE WERE THE EXTRA 120 OVER THAT COOKS POINT THOSE WERE THE ONES OVER AT THE, UM AT FOUR, BUT JUST TO BE THE SCOTS SIDE. SO VEHICLE 1089 THAT RUNS THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS THAT WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, UM UM, PC BUSY AND ALL OF THOSE, AND THOSE ARE NOW SLATED TO BE BUILT. OKAY LOOKING AT 2022. OKAY THIS YEAR THIS YEAR, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS A GROWTH 1550 PAVE. DWELLINGS. 5 1055. SO AS WE CONTINUE TO KEEP HEARING WE HAVE TO BUILD WE HAVE TO BUILD BECAUSE WE HAVE JOBS. WE HAVE JOBS. YEAH THE 11 ONCE THIS IS COMPLETED AND AGAIN WE'RE RUNNING BEHIND BECAUSE THE JOBS ALREADY THERE, BUT WE WILL BE NORTH OF 6278. DWELLINGS ON COMPLETION. OKAY THE ONE THING THAT I DISAGREE WITH WITH THE BUILDING ASSOCIATION. THE BUILDING ASSOCIATION STATES THAT IT IS ONE PERSON WAS HOUSEHOLD DWELLING. WELL IF YOU'RE LOOKING 
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AT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, AND HALF OF THIS IS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. MOST LIKELY, YEAH, IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. YOU HAVE TWO INCOME EARNERS THAT LOOK FOR THAT. THAT LOOK FOR A JOB. WE ONLY WE ONLY GETTING CREDIT FOR ONE. SO BASICALLY, WE HAVE ONCE UPON COMPLETION NOW AGAIN, THAT'S COMPLETION OF NEW JOBS UNTIL 2021 SO, YES, WE ARE BEHIND THE CURVE. BUT THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL WHEN IT COMES TO BUILDING IN ADDITION TO THAT, YEAH, BUT CONCERNS ME. ALSO A GREAT DEAL IS THAT DURING THAT SAME PERIOD OF TIME, WE WERE FAIRLY STEADY WITH OUR STOOD IN BASE IN THE MARYSVILLE SCHOOL. YEAH ONCE IN THE CITY. WE STARTED TO BUILD THIS LAST THIS PARTICULAR YEAR. YEAH AND I CHECKED IT WITH CITY. SORRY SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION THIS MORNING. THERE ARE 258 EXTRA STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. OKAY AND WE HAVE NOT EVEN BUILT THE 1089. OR WE HAVEN'T EVEN BUILD THE 1555. AND YET ALREADY NEXT YEAR THE MONTH OF MAY, THERE IS GOING TO BE A LEVY ON THE BALLOT FROM THE SCHOOLS TO COVER THOSE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES. 
          OKAY THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT. BECAUSE THAT MEANS IF IT'S $250 PER 100,000, YEAH, THAT'S ALSO ALL NEED TO BE ADDED TO THE COST OF LIVING IN MARYSVILLE. YEAH, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. THE OTHER THING THAT, UM, WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND THROUGH THE CHAMBER WILL HAVE TO, UM, WE HAVE TWO MEETINGS SET UP WITH REGARDS TO HOUSING. ONE OF ME IS GOING TO BE FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY. I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE PORTION OF MARRIAGES WILL IN THE 43 OR FOUR. OH, WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT IF PEOPLE WORK IN THE REGION. WILL THEY ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE REGION? YEAH UM, I IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO GO AND ASK ALL OF THE DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT WE HAVE OF ALL THE 6000 PEOPLE THAT MOVED INTO THE AREA WORKFORCE ALL OF THOSE LIVING YEAH, IN THAT SAME WORKFORCE, SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE WORKFORCE, YEAH, DEFINITELY IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WORKING AND LIVING IN THAT SAME AREA. LOT OF PEOPLE THESE DAYS WORK FROM HOME REMOTELY. YEAH AND, UM AGAIN UNTIL WE STARTED TO ASK THE QUESTIONS. HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO YOU HAVE? AND HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE POETRY? OH, FOUR LOW. YEAH IT'S A GAMBLE. HOW MANY PEOPLE SO IF THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WE NOW HAVE NUMBERS. WE KNOW IT'S 6000. WE KEEP HEARING THAT WE HAVE 15 16,000 IN A 10 MILE RADIUS OR EVEN 20,000 IN THE 20 MILE RADIUS. BUT IF WE LOOK WITHIN OUR OWN WE MORE THAN ADEQUATELY COVER THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WORK HERE WITH THE HOMES THAT WE'VE MADE AVAILABLE IN GOING TO BE MAKING AVAILABLE IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS. YEAH IT'S THAT SIMPLE. WHAT IS GOING TO INCREASE AND WHAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT? IT'S WE HAVE, AND I HAVE SAID THAT AS MANY TIMES WE HAVE MADE IT VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A WORKFORCE EMPLOYEE TALIBAN MARYSE WILL BECAUSE THERE IS MINIMAL NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AVAILABLE TO HIM. SO MOST PEOPLE HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE OF THE AREA. NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO A SITUATION WHERE THAT SAME THING IS BEGINNING TO HAPPEN WITH THE 65 OVER THERE ARE LIVING ON A LIMITED INCOME, BUT IF THEY SEE THAT ALL OF THE EXPENSES AROUND THEM NOT DO TODAY CALLED YEAH, BUT ALL OF THE EXPENSES AROUND THEM. I CONTINUE TO INCREASE. THOSE ARE THE NEXT ONES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SAY SORRY, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO LIVE IN MARYSVILLE. SO IT IS. IT IS NOT JUST PUTTING UP 
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600 SOME HOUSES. YEAH BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL COMMUNITY. HOW DO WE SEE THIS COMMUNITY? HOW DO WE SEE THIS COMMUNITY IN THE NEXT 456 YEARS ? YEAH EVENTUALLY AND? AND UM, UM I'M NOT OPPOSED TO GROWTH. BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST FRACTURE THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON YET. YEAH UM AND I'M JUST I'M JUST NOT AT THE POINT THAT I COULD SUPPORT THE ANNEXATION ORDER DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE YEAH, SAYING THAT WE WERE TOLD THE MOST WAS THE FACT ABOUT WE NEEDED TO COMPENSATE JOBS. AND WE MET THAT CHALLENGE, AND WE CONTINUED TO MEET THAT SILENCE WITH WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. YEAH UM, SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS AND MY EXPLANATION FOR TONIGHT. OKAY THANK YOU, HANK. HMM THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. UM. I FEEL LIKE WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY IS GOING TO DISAPPOINT A LOT OF PEOPLE AND I FEEL BADLY ABOUT THAT. I'M SORRY FOR THAT. BUT WE ARE ELECTED UP HERE TO MAKE VERY TOUGH DECISIONS, AND I HAVE TO BE HONEST. I CAN'T RECALL A DECISION THAT HAS BEEN MORE DIFFICULT THAN THIS SPECIFIC ONE, MAYBE ONE OR TWO THAT WERE CLOSE. BUT THIS IS I'VE LOST SLEEP OVER THIS ONE. TO BE HONEST, IF I'M BEING VERY HONEST WITH THE CROWD, UM I MET WITH FOLKS WHO LIVE IN THE AREA OF ACTUALLY DRIVEN OVER THERE TWICE TO MEET WITH PEOPLE AND MORE THAN THAT, JUST BY MYSELF, JUST TO LOOK AT THE AREA. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER. I REPRESENT NORTHERN MARYSVILLE, SO THIS AREA IS LARGELY UNFAMILIAR TO ME. BUT I GOT TO KNOW THE AREA AND SEE IT BECAUSE I'M A VISUAL LEARNER. SO I HAVE TO SAY THAT SO I GREW UP. AND I MOVED TO MARY'S FILL IN 2008 GREW UP IN NEW VALLEY, WHICH IS A SUBDIVISION, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE AT STILLWATER. UMU KNOW, MY FAMILY AND I HAD A GREAT LIFE THERE. YOU KNOW, IF CIRCUMSTANCES WERE DIFFERENT, PERHAPS WE COULD HAVE MOVED OUT INTO THE COUNTRY AND ROAMED AND, YOU KNOW, LIVED OUT THERE. BUT WE DIDN'T. WE MOVED TO MORE VALLEY. WE REALLY ENJOYED IT. AND FROM LIVING IN MOBILE E. 
          I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING THAT WE DID NOT ENJOY. AND THAT WAS THE TRAFFIC THAT EXISTED IN THE MORNING WHEN I TRIED TO GET FROM MY HOUSE TO MIDDLE SCHOOL TO HIGH SCHOOL WHEREVER IT WAS. 
          WHEN I WAS GOING TO SCHOOL IN THE VALLEY THAT WAS A TRAIN WRECK EVERY SINGLE MORNING. YOU KNOW, 78. A M COMES AROUND. YOU'RE FIGHTING THROUGH A LONG LINE OF CARS TO GET THROUGH TO THREE TRAFFIC LIGHTS. POINT BEING. I GUESS YOU COULD SAY I'VE LIVED THROUGH A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE BUILT THIS MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT. AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE WASN'T IN PLACE TO HANDLE IT. SO WE HAD TO INVEST MORE TO FIX THE PROBLEM. I SEE THIS, OKAY? I'M HAVE INDEPENDENTLY COME TO THESE THOUGHTS AND CONCLUSIONS. I SEE WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE AND IT SEEMS THAT WE HAVE THE UTILITIES IN PLACE. OKAY THAT THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED THAT IS NECESSARY FOR GROWTH IN MY OPINION. WE HAVE, UM UM SO THE. THE WHAT THE UTILITY LINES BEEN EXTENDED BEHIND THE KRUGER. THOSE ARE IN PLACE. WE HAVE $3 MILLION THAT THE DEVELOPERS WILLING TO SPEND IN MARYSVILLE. WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND A DIME. $3 MILLION IS WHAT THEY'RE TELLING US THAT THEY WILL DO TO IMPROVE THAT AREA. IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, THAT AREA IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. IF WE IF WE APPROVE THIS THAN THAT AREA IS GOING TO LOOK A LOT NICER BEFORE THE FIRST HOUSE GOES UP, OKAY, THAT'S $3 MILLION. YOU HAVE TURN LANES THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED. WE KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT. UH UM AND THEN ANOTHER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN ANY FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS. SO THIS IS ALL WITHOUT MARYSVILLE SPENDING ANY MONEY THAT YOU KNOW THAT IT'S A BIG DEAL TO ME, UM IT SEEMS LIKE YOU KNOW, I AGREE. KIND OF WITH WHAT DEB WAS SAYING THAT I REALLY FIELD. BAD ABOUT THE WAY THAT MY BRAIN IS TELLING ME TO VOTE, BUT BUT I HONESTLY THINK IT'S THE BEST DECISION FOR MARYSVILLE AND I'VE COME TO THAT CONCLUSION INDEPENDENTLY. UM I THINK WE MISS OUT A GREAT DEAL BY NOT DECIDING TO INVEST IN THE WEST. AND I'M SORRY IF WE DISAGREE, BUT THAT THAT'S HOW I FEEL, AND I REPRESENT PEOPLE WHO ARE EXCITED ABOUT GROWTH AND MARYSVILLE. THEY WANT TO SEE THE CITY GROW AND YOU KNOW, I WILL VOTE YES. TONIGHT. BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS IT. THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR MARYSVILLE TO GROW IN THE WEST. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING OUT THERE. I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT WE EVER WILL. IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS AND. JUST AS I HAD A GREAT LIFE GROWING UP IN NEW VALLEY, I KIND OF SEE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVING SIMILAR EXPERIENCES HERE, IT'S A IT'S A SUBDIVISION ROUGHLY KIND OF LIKABLE VALLEY. IT'S MUCH 
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SMALLER, BUT UM, THAT'S ONE POINT. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY IS, UM. I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL HERE, BUT I WORK FOR AN EMPLOYER WHO IS IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY. AND UNION COUNTY. UM THERE'S NO REAL WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT'S CLOSE TO THE EMPLOYER. BUT THIS IS PRETTY MUCH AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN GET TO THOSE AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERING COMPANIES THAT EXIST IN UNION COUNTY WITHOUT BEING RIGHT NEXT TO HIM. SO I THINK THE LOCATION MAKES SENSE IN TERMS OF UM, GETTING IN TERMS OF HAVING PEOPLE LIVE THERE WHO WORKED AT THESE COMPANIES IN NORTHERN UNION COUNTY. I SEE A LOT OF POSITIVES IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. I SEE A LOT OF YOU KNOW, I HEAR A LOT OF NEGATIVES AND I'M SORRY, BUT I TRULY THINK THAT THIS WILL BE THE BEST DECISION FOR MARYSVILLE AND IT WILL BE A START FOR GROWTH. SMART GROWTH TO CONTINUE HAPPENING ON THE WEST SIDE AND THAT'S HOW I FEEL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. 
          I'M OH, NO, NO, JR. NO NO, YOU GO. GO AHEAD. OK SO, YOU KNOW, UM, I'M STILL ABOUT NOW. AND, UM, YOU KNOW EVER SINCE I WAS A KID. I'VE LOOKED AT MARYSVILLE AS COULD BE THIS REALLY COOL NEW ENGLAND STYLE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, WITH BEAUTIFUL HISTORICAL HOMES, AND YOU KNOW WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WITH BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOODS AND TREE LINED STREETS AND EVERYTHING. THERE IS NO STATISTICAL FACT OUT THERE THAT WILL TELL YOU THAT YOU HAVE TO GROW FOR YOUR COMMUNITY TO SURVIVE. WHAT THE STATISTICS WILL TELL YOU IS BASED ON YOUR INCOME LEVEL OF YOUR COMMUNITY. 
          THAT'S HOW YOUR CITY WILL SURVIVE. DUBLIN HAS MORE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN DUBLIN. THE LIVE IN DUBLIN. DO YOU THINK THAT WAS A COINCIDENCE? NO. THEY DID IT BECAUSE THEY PLANNED IT THAT WAY. THEY DIDN'T WANT. SUBURBIA AFTER SUBURBIA AFTER SUBURBIA AFTER SUBURBIA OF COOKIE CUTTER HOUSES. MY FEAR HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND WHY I RAN FOR CITY COUNCIL AND WHY I SIT IN THIS SEAT TODAY IS THAT AN INCOME TAX AT 1.5% UNDERSTAND WHAT HANK IS SAYING ABOUT AFFORDABILITY? BUT MY FEAR IS THIS INCOME TAX OF 1.5% YOU BUILD FOR FIRST TIME HOMEBUYERS. HMM AND YOU'RE BUILDING FOR UTAH RETIREES. I'M NOT SAYING THEY CAN'T LIVE HERE. BUT WHAT MY FEAR IS, WILL THEY SUPPORT THE RISING COSTS OF THE CITIES AND CITIES CITY IN THE FUTURE WHEN IT COMES TO MORE CITY STAFF WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, REPAVING ROADS BUILDING THEIR OWN ROADS. MARYSVILLE HAS DEPEND ON DEVELOPMENT TO GIVE US MONEY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT OURSELVES. IF I WAS A CITY OF MINISTRATIONS YEARS AGO, I WOULD HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO PROTECT DR MACGYVER IS LAND. I'M NOT TELLING YOU THAT I WOULD STILL HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE BUILT TO BUILD DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE IN 2 45, BUT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PROTECTED AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN OPEN SPACE, A BIG, OLD GIANT PARK AND CEMETERY LAND. I SEE DEVELOPMENT EVERY DAY IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND I THINK TO MYSELF WHAT ARE WE DOING? NOW YOU WILL BE TOLD THAT YOU GROW, GROW GROW AND YOU'RE GONNA GET ALL THESE BUSINESSES. WELL. YOU GOT HIM? YOU GOT EVERY FAST FOOD RESTAURANT IN AMERICA LOCATED HERE PRETTY MUCH. I'M DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE I DRIVE DOWN THE MAIN DRAG OF TOWN AND I SEE BACON STRUCTURES. THAT'S HOW CHEAP MARY'S WAS. THAT'S HOW AFFORDABLE WE ARE. IS THAT IT'S CHEAPER FOR PROPERTY OWNER TO LEAVE VACANT HOUSES. AND VACANT STRUCTURES. THEN IT IS FOR THEM TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT. IT'S CHEAPER FOR SOMEBODY TO LET A STRUCTURE FALL DOWN AND DISARRAY THAN IT IS FOR THEM TO MAINTAIN IT. BECAUSE THE LAND IS SO CHEAP. YOU DRIVE THROUGH THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE 20. 25 30 YEARS OLD. AND I'M SCARED. I'M STILL WORRIED ABOUT GROWTH. I HAVE BEEN WORRIED ABOUT GROWTH. AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE PROJECTION OF GROWTH IN THIS COMMUNITY. I JUST WISH THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT THESE TOPICS ON A BROADER SCALE MORE IN DEPTH THAN WHAT WE DO. BUT YOU KNOW, WITH 2 45. I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED OUT THERE. BUT WHAT SCARES ME IS THAT THIS WILL BE THE STANDARD TO SAY THIS IS WHAT EVERY OTHER DEVELOPER IS GOING TO WANT BECAUSE YOU DID IT FOR ONE. WHY AREN'T YOU GOING TO DO IT FOR ME? AND DO WE HAVE THE WILLPOWER AS A COUNCIL TO CHANGE THEIR CODES TO STAND UP AND SAY NO, WE'RE WE ARE GOING TO DO BETTER. THOSE ARE JUST THOSE ARE JUST MY CONCERNS. THAT'S MY OPINION. AND SO THANK YOU. ALL 
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RIGHT. I DON'T WANT MARY'S OUGHT TO BE DUBLIN. BUT SINCE DUBLIN WAS BROUGHT UP IN 1980 DUBLIN HAD 1000 RESIDENTS. MARYSVILLE HAD 8000 IN THE TO 20 CENSUS. DUBLIN HAD 45,000 RESIDENTS MARRIAGE HAD 25,000 SO DUBLIN GREW BY 45. TIMES WE'VE TRIPLED. AND DONALD IS CORRECT. DUBLIN DOUBLES DURING THE DAY. SO THEY HAVE A REAL NICE SITUATION WHERE THEY CAN TAX PEOPLE THAT COME IN. WE HAVE THAT SITUATION AS WELL, UH, YOU KNOW SCOTT'S IS IN THE CITY LIMITS. MR HAGEN DORN DOES NOT LIVE IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND WE GET THE TAXES SALARY, SO WE HAVE THAT LUXURY AS WELL. UM LABOR FORCE. IN 2012 , OUR LABOR FORCE IN UNION COUNTY RESIDENTS 26,346. THERE WERE 1515 OF THEM THAT WERE UNEMPLOYED AT THAT TIME. IN 2022 TODAY WE HAVE 30,200 PEOPLE IN OUR. COUNTY THAT ARE OF WORK AGE AND 900 OF THEM ARE UNEMPLOYED. UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS 2.9% THAT'S FANTASTIC. UNLESS YOU WANT TO LOCATE HERE. AND BUILD SOMETHING. WHERE DO WE GET THE EMPLOYEES FOR A COMPANY TO COME HERE? THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION ERIC HAS TO ANSWER WITH EVERY COMPANY THAT HE MEETS. IT USED TO BE. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S MY INCENTIVE? WHAT ARE YOU GIVING ME NOW? IT'S WHERE AM I GOING TO GET MY EMPLOYEES? WITHIN FIVE MILES, AND HANK MENTIONED IT. SO WITHIN FIVE MILES THERE TODAY THIS IS FROM JOBS. OHIO WE HAVE 1479 JOBS AVAILABLE. WE'VE GOT 4022 WITHIN 10, MILES AND 11,270 JOBS AVAILABLE WITHIN 20 MILES OF MARYSVILLE. 600 OF THOSE JOBS ARE ENGINEERING JOBS. DON'T PAY MINIMUM WAGE. THEY'RE NOT $15 AN HOUR. THEY'RE GOOD, HIGH PAYING JOBS. DO YOU KNOW THAT TODAY? HOW MANY HOUSES ARE AVAILABLE IN MARYSVILLE? TO BUY. THERE'S 32 IN ALL OF 43. OH, FOUR. OH, AND IF YOU TAKE OUT THE 10 THAT AREN'T IN THE CITY LIMITS THAT BRINGS IT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 22 HOUSES ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE. TO BE PURCHASED AND THAT INCLUDED. ACTUALLY THAT'S NOT RIGHT. IT'S 18 HOUSES AND FOUR CONDOS. THAT ARE AVAILABLE TODAY FOR PURCHASE. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE EXPAND TO THE WEST SIDE? DELL OF THE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS WHERE THERE'S UTILITIES. WE'VE GOT UTILITIES TO THE NORTH SIDE. WE'VE ALSO GOT 25% OF OUR POPULATION. IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ALL DUMPS ONTO ONE ROAD. 
          AARON MENTIONED IT. WE REALIZE ALSO THAT THE OTHER 300 ACRES BETWEEN 31 4 ARE GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. THERE'S A FAMILY SITUATION THAT I WOULD SAY IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS YOU'RE GOING TO START TO SEE DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE. SO THAT IS ONE DIRECTION WE CAN GROW. TO THE EAST. WE CAN'T TODAY. BUT WE'RE SPENDING $9 MILLION TO PUT A PUMP STATION IN THAT OPENS UP 1800 ACRES TO THE EAST. BUT THAT WON'T BE DONE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. AND THEN IT TAKES THE DEVELOPER A YEAR TO GET THROUGH ALL THE PROCESS AND TWO OR THREE YEARS TO GET THROUGH PUTTING STREETS IN AND ACTUALLY GETTING TO A POINT WHERE THERE'S HOUSES. TO THE SOUTH. WE'VE ALREADY PUT IN EWING MEADOWS. UH THERE'S A MIRANDA DEVELOPMENT GOING IN ACROSS OUR OFFICE, 7 39 THAT AGAIN TAKES US TO OUR CITY LIMITS AND TO THE EXTENT OF OUR UTILITY POSSIBILITIES, SO THERE'S NO NO DIRECTION TO GO THERE. REALLY THE ONLY LEFT IS TO THE WEST. AND THE DEVELOPMENT 
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OF THIS PROPERTY ACTUALLY OPENS UP OTHER PROPERTY. FURTHER SOUTH. THAT WILL PROBABLY BE DEVELOPED AS WELL. UM A FEW YEARS AGO. THE SCHOOL SYSTEM PUT BUNS SOLD. OUT OF A ROUTE FOUR AND EVERYBODY THOUGHT, WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU DOING? WELL LARRY ZIMMERMAN WAS THE SUPERINTENDENT AT THAT TIME, AND HE FULLY EXPECTED MARYSVILLE TO DEVELOP THAT DIRECTION. PLUS THE LAND WAS GIVEN TO HIM. IT'S ALWAYS HELPS THAT HELPS WHERE YOU PUT IT. UM BUT THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH WHY WHY IT WENT OUT THERE. UM SKY BROOKE IS GOING IN RIGHT ACROSS FROM BUNS SOLD 347 UNITS, UM. SO THAT WILL ALSO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT WE DON'T WANT 50% OF OUR POPULATION TO THE NORTH OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. OH UM AND WANTED TO CONTINUE TO WORK AROUND. IN OTHER AREAS. I DO AGREE WITH THINK. AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA GET TO A POINT AS IS ENOUGH. ENOUGH. ARE WE THERE NOW? I DON'T KNOW. BUT I DO KNOW THAT IF WE DON'T GROW THAT. IT'S GONNA BE REALLY HARD TO GET BUSINESSES TO LOCATE HERE. AND I WAS TRYING TO LOOK UP WHEN YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THAT THERE IS A REPORT NOW. UNFORTUNATELY THE LATEST REPORT IS 2019. BUT IT SHOWS INFLOW AND OUTFLOW OF THE COUNTY AND IT'S BASICALLY 50 50 ABOUT 50% OF OUR RESIDENTS DRIVE OUTSIDE OF UNION COUNTY TO WORK IN ABOUT 50% OF THE WORKFORCE IN THE COUNTY DRIVES INTO THE COUNTY. UM, BUT. I HAD THE. 
          ACCOUNTING DEPARTMENT. PROBABLY DON'T HAVE IT. HMM SO IN 2016. WE HAD AS A CITY. WITHHOLDING NOW IF I WORKED AT WENDY'S IN DUBLIN THIS I WOULD BE COUNTED IN THIS, BUT THERE WERE 2017 EMPLOYERS. WITHHOLDING 36,033 W TWOS. TODAY WELL, 2021, SO THE INCOME TAX FILING IN 2021 THERE WERE 2589 EMPLOYERS. WITH A TOTAL OF 36,994 W TWOS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE COLLECTING AS A CITY INCOME TAX WISE. YOU KNOW, ERIN , YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAVE THAT YOU HAVE LOST SOME SLEEP OVER. THIS PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SAY THIS, BUT I'M GOING TO ANYWAYS. THIS IS EXTREMELY PERSONAL FOR ME. THERE'S A FAMILY HERE THAT DOES NOT WANT THIS. MY MOTHER WAS THEIR MOTHER'S BEST FRIEND. YOU DON'T THINK THAT'S HARD. WE ARE ELECTED TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS. 
          AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US NUMBERS WISE. AND THINK ABOUT 25,000. SO THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES. ALAN WHILE. ALL THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT'S ABOUT MONEY FOR THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. IT'S REALLY NOT ABOUT THAT. I'M GONNA PAY YOU BACK MORE ON WHAT J R SAID. 
          AND A LITTLE BIT OF FOLLOW UP FROM WHAT OUR CITY MANAGER RECITED. HMM. IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE A PROGRESSIVE, STRONG ECONOMY, ECONOMY COMMUNITY. ENVIABLE TO OTHERS IN CENTRAL OHIO, TRULY WE NEED A DEVICE, A DIVERSE EMPLOYMENT BASE FOR OUR CURRENT BUSINESSES WHO STRUGGLE RIGHT NOW TO GET THE KIND OF EMPLOYEES THAT THEY NEED IN THE FUTURE BUSINESSES THAT SEEK TO LOCATE HERE BUT ARE HESITANT. BUT THERE A BIG PART OF OUR ECONOMIC ENGINE. AND THE ECONOMY IS A BIG PART OF WHAT MAKES MARYSVILLE SUCCESSFUL. IN ORDER TO ENCOURAGE AND SUPPORT THAT EMPLOYMENT BASED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS AROUND MARYSVILLE WILL CONTINUE IN THE DISTANCE FOR SUITABLE FUTURE BALL HEARD AND REPEAT. TO STAY AHEAD OF THAT. ONLY FOUR YEARS 
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AGO, THE CITY PULLED TOGETHER A DIVERSE GROUP OF CITIZENS TO UPDATE AND STEER THE CITY'S COMING GROWTH DIRECTION. AND WHAT IS THE 2018 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT OUTLINES THE ZONING DISTRICTS? THE CONCLUSION WAS THEY WANTED AN EVENTUAL, WELL BALANCED COMMUNITY. RESIDENTIAL AND SUPPORT BUSINESSES, NOT HEAVY WEIGHTED ON ANY ONE SIDE OF THE CITY, BUT SPREAD AROUND THE CITY'S CORE FOR BETTER TRAFFIC DISTRIBUTION AND ECONOMIC BALANCE. BUT YET BE AWARE OF LARGE SPREAD SPREAD OUT RESIDENTIAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT CAUSE URBAN SPRAWL, THUS SUBSTANTIAL STRENGTH STRAIN ON CITY SERVICES. WITH THAT SAID. TRAFFIC HAS CONTINUED TO INCREASE ALL OVER THE CITY, AND IT WILL CONTINUE THE TRAFFIC WITH THIS PROJECT WILL ADD STILL MORE BUT HAS BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE ADDRESSED. THE DENSITY. IT IS APPROPRIATE TO MINIMIZE THE SPRAWL. THE LOCATION SUPPORTS. THE PLAN PLANS DESIRE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND TRAFFIC DISTRIBUTION AROUND THE CITY'S CORE. BEFORE WE'RE DONE HERE, THOUGH. I DO WANT TO HEAR WHERE WE ARE ON THE TRAFFIC LIGHT SITUATION. THAT WAS STILL AN OUTSTANDING CONCERN. YEAH, THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO THIS PROJECT. YES SO A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, JEREMY AND I NET WITHOUT THAT AND EXPRESSED OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT IN THE INTERSECTION OF THE U. S. 
          33 IN NORTHWEST PART OF WAY MORE SPECIFICALLY IN THE ACCIDENT RAMP. UM WE INFORMED THEM THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY DID NOT WARRANT A SIGNAL. AT THIS TIME, HOWEVER, WE SHOWED THEM THE QUEUING LINKS AND HOW FAR IT BACKS UP WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT INTO 33. THEY REALIZED THE SAFETY CONCERN WITH THAT, SO THEY HAVE SINCE EMAILED THE DEVELOPER AND REQUESTED THAT THE DEVELOPER PAYING FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS TO ADD A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND AN ADDITIONAL LEFT TURN LANE OFF THAT EXIT RAMP. AND WHAT'S THE TIMING OF THAT? THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE DAY ONE PRIOR TO ANYONE MOVING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. THAT WAS A KEY INGREDIENT. YEAH THEN I THINK WE EVEN POSTPONED THE MEETING TABLE THE MEETING TO GET A BETTER ANSWER ON THAT, HOPING THAT THE RESEARCH WOULD WOULD REVEAL BETTER INFORMATION AND IN IT, THAT'S EXCELLENT NEWS. WITH THE THINGS THAT I RECITED THEIR THIS PROJECT SUPPORTS THE GOAL OF THE GOALS OF MARYSVILLE IS GROWTH PLAN. OH THAT'S THIS PERSON'S VIEW. OKAY. THANK YOU. THE EMOTION OF PASS THE LEGISLATION. 
          MR PRESIDENT. I MOVE I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PASS ORDINANCE G. ROLL CALL, MR BURBEY? NO MR CARPENTER? YES MR SEYMOUR? YES MRS GROAT? YES MR BERGER? NO. MR REEMS? YES YES, YES. MOTION 
          [Ord. H]
CARRIES ORDINANCE AGE THIRD READING TITLE, ONLY TO APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO REZONE EXISTING PARCEL NUMBERS. 280015030. TO 000 TO 800150 TO 90000. 280015041. TO 800150. FORD'S 200028. TO 800150 TO 800002 800150490. FROM YOU ONE TOWNSHIP ZONING TO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. P U D FOR STILL WATER FARMS. MINISTRATIONS COMMENTS REALLY QUICK AND PRODUCT PREVIOUS MEETING. 10 YEARS TO BUILD THIS HOUSE. SO WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN OUR COUNTY AND IN OUR CITY OF THE LAST 10 YEARS. 
          THIS. DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT BE COMPLETED. FOR ABOUT AN 8 TO 10 YEAR PERIOD, SO JUST KEEP THAT IN PERSPECTIVE AS WELL. I JUST WANTED THIS STATEMENT. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE REMINDER ON THAT. ANY COUNCIL COMMENTS. YEAH I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND. WE WENT TO OR WE HEARD A PRESENTER 
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IN JUNE, SPEAKING TO US ABOUT CENTRAL OHIO BUILDING AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT THESE PRICE POINTS AT 300,000. ARE NOT WHAT A RETIREE IS GOING TO CALL AFFORDABLE NOR FIRST TIME HOW KNOWN HOMEOWNER. BUT AT THAT TIME IN JUNE, THE STATEMENT WAS MADE THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING OCCURS AS HOLDING HOUSING NATURALLY, AGES IN A COMMUNITY. THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENTS WE HAVE ARE NATURALLY AGING. WE WENT THROUGH A PERIOD WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE OF 20 OR THERE ABOUT YEARS WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE. 
          DEVELOPMENTS PUT IN SO THAT THEY COULD NOW BE AGING, SO THE CONCEPT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS UNCOMFORTABLE AS IT IS. WILL SOLVE ITSELF AS THE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET AND DOWN THE STREET FROM ME. AGES AS ERRANDS DEVELOPMENT AGES, THOSE WILL BECOME MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          THIS WILL BE A NATURAL TURNOVER WHERE THE PRICE POINT DOESN'T MATCH WHAT I CALL AFFORDABLE. 
          BUT IT'S A NATURAL TURNOVER IN A CITY SO THANKS FOR LISTENING TO MORE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. I JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE THING, UM. ONE OF THE THINGS TO ME THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT IN MY DECISION MAKING PROCESS WAS THE FACT THAT AS HAS BEEN STATED THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO TAKE MANY, MANY YEARS TO EVEN BEGIN COMING UP. NOW IF WE WERE GOING TO SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO START BUILDING LIKE NEXT YEAR IN THE HOUSES ARE UP YEAR AFTER THAT, AND THAT WOULD BE A CAUSE FOR CONCERN BECAUSE THAT TO ME SEEMS LIKE NOTHING IS GOING TO IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND TIME FOR PEOPLE TO START MOVING THERE AND LIVING THERE. BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. IN OTHER WORDS. I BELIEVE IN MILL VALLEY WOULD BE PREVENTED HERE. IF YOU IF YOU WILL, UM, INSTEAD OF PUTTING UP A BUNCH OF HOMES AND THEN FIXING STATE ROUTE 31, WHERE MAKING THE IMPROVEMENTS. 1ST $33.5 MILLION AT LEAST AND THEN. MUCH AFTER THEN WE'LL HOMES ACTUALLY START GOING UP. SO AT THAT WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN MY DECISION MAKING PROCESS, AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT. SO THANKS. 
          ANY OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS. AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE APPROVED THE LEGISLATION. ROLL CALL, MR CARPENTER. YES MR SEYMOUR. GROOT YES, MR REEMS? YES MR ROCHE? YES MR BURBEY. MR MR BERGER. UM. NO, HE'S LAST ANE LAST TIME BUT EITHER WAY IS FINE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ORDER TOGETHER, RIGHT, MR BERGER. NO MR BURBEY. NO FIVE YEARS, OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. SO 
          [COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL PERSONS AND GENERAL DISCUSSION]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER. I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER. OKAY WE'RE GONNA MIX IT UP A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT, DONALD. OH, OKAY. WELL SO I'M NOT DEBATED. JUST SAY HAVE A GOOD NIGHT AND I HOPE TO SEE YOU ON SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY. THANK YOU. STEP. NO SIR, YOU'VE HEARD ENOUGH FROM ME TONIGHT. I FORGOT TO SAY SOMETHING. MARGE ELIN. THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS WATCHING CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. HMM HMM. HMM. ALAN. I'LL PASS. I JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH US ASSESSMENT'S. THAT IS. YOU WANT ME TO MAKE THIS. I FEEL BADLY ABOUT THAT. BUT I PROMISED IT IS WHAT I GENERALLY THINKS THE CITY AND I. COMPARING YOU THINK ABOUT THE AREAS. IF WE SEE EACH OTHER UP ABOUT PERHAPS SOMETHING ELSE , UM, ANYWAY, GREAT THINGS. THANK OKAY. ACTUALLY I HAVE TWO ITEMS THAT I DID COPY DOWN. FIRST OFF, UM, CONDOLENCES TO ACHIEVE GOLDEN, WHO? UNFORTUNATELY LAST WEEK HIS MOTHER PASSED AWAY AND CALLING HOURS THAT TOMORROW IN PLAIN CITY WITH THE CHURCH SERVICE ON WEDNESDAY, BUT CONDOLENCES TO UF COURSE, MR PHILLIPS, WHO'S MARRIED INTO THE FAMILY? YEAH AND ON THE POSITIVE NOTE. YEAH, UM, HAD A LOT OF FUN. SUNDAY 
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WEEK AGO WITH THE PUMPKIN DOPE. YEAH YOU DIDN'T EXCEPTIONAL YOUR STAFF. I DIDN'T SEE YOU THERE. 
          BUT AS IT SHOULD BE, IT SHOULD BE. YOU MIGHT WON'T LET HIM UP ON THE U. S STAFF DIDN'T EXCEPTIONAL, GOOD JOB AND THEY RAISED OVER $1300. WHICH THE UNION AD IT'S A NICE AMOUNT TO FOR BLESSINGS IN A BACKPACK, SO THEY USED TO OVER $2000. SO WE GOT SOME RATIONS TO DIVIDE APARTMENT AND THANK YOU SO MUCHY WORTHWHILE COSTS. JR QUICK AS WELL, UM, SO LAST FRIDAY WAS VETERANS DAY. BUT ON THURSDAY, UM THERE WAS AN HONOR FLIGHT OUT OF COLUMBUS TO WASHINGTON, D C AND OUR FAMILY HAVE A SECOND COUSIN JOHNNY HILL, WHO SERVED TWO TERMS TO TOURS IN VIETNAM. 
          AND HE WAS GOT TO GO ON THE HONOR FLIGHT. AND SO I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO HIM. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. MHM AND GLAD YOU MADE IT HOME. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, YOU KNOW, I JUST, UH YOU KNOW, I MISSED THE EVENTS OF THE SUMMER. YOU KNOW THAT WE HAD ALL THE UPTOWN FRIDAY NIGHT EVENTS. BUT I GOTTA SAY COMING INTO THE CHRISTMAS SEASON, EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DONE, MARY ON MAIN, YOU KNOW, BRINGING THAT IN NOW? OUR NEW EVENT. UM ALL OF THAT THE CHRISTMAS WALK A LOT OF IT AND SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY. YOU KNOW, I REALLY THINK THIS ONE OF MY FAVORITE TIMES A YEAR AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT, AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO VISIT THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT REALLY MAKES THIS COMMUNITY GO. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE MARK. IT JUST DAWNED ON ME. WE WON'T MEET AGAIN UNTIL AFTER THANKSGIVING. SO TO EVERYBODY. HAVE A HAPPY THANKSGIVING. YEAH WE'LL SEE YOU AT THE TURKEY TRIBE ON THE SIDELINES SIDELINES. EMOTIONAL JOURNEY MOVED ON PAPER. PLEASE SAY AYE AYE
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