Apr 24, 2023 City Council

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REUTERS. ALLEN SEYMOUR PRESENT DONALD BURGER. HERE THANK HERBIE JR. ROUSH HERE, DREAMS AND DEBORAH GROW AND AARON CARPENTER EXCUSED. THAT AGAIN. THEY BOTH EXCUSE. UM WELL, ERIN IS NOT HERE YET. OKAY SO I GUESS HE'S TECHNICALLY NOT EXCUSE. I APOLOGIZE. SO UM OKAY, SO WE

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

COUNCIL WORK SESSION MINUTES. OKAY THANK YOU ALL IN FAVOR, OKAY? AND NOBODY POST. AND THEN WE ALSO DO HAVE THE APRIL 10 CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES AND AGAIN, HE DID A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MOVED OKAY, ONLY PAPER. I ALREADY UM I THINK WE, THE FINANCE COMMITTEE HAS

[APPOINTMENT]

CONGRATULATIONS THANK YOU, EVERYBODY FOR FOUR YEARS, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO KNOW HOW TO RUN THE MEETING BY NOW. SO HOPE SO. OKAY WONDERFUL. SO NOT ONLY CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING INTER PERSON BUT ALSO BEING ON THE ENTERPRISE NEGOTIATION TEAM. MOVING FORWARD WITH ANOTHER APPOINTMENT PLANNING COMMISSION . UM BREAD. ENGEL IS BRED BY BRAD GOOD EVENING, AND HE'S THE NEWLY APPOINTED UM, MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION OR TERM THAT RUNS THROUGH 12 31 2026. SO, UM WE DO NEED TO HAVE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE APPOINTMENT. LOCAL POLICE. THE MOTION TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT BREADING WELL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. MR BURBEY? YES, YES, MR CARPENTER. YES, MR SEYMOUR. MR BERGER? YES, YES. UM MR CHAIR AS AS A POINTED OUT AT THE LAST SESSION, WE HAD SOME GREAT CANDIDATES. AND UH AND BRAND DID A GREAT JOB LEADING THE INTERVIEW. HMM. AND THEY'RE THE CANDIDATES WERE ALL VERY STRONG. SO I'M KIND OF SAYING THIS FOR BRETT'S BENEFIT THAT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID COME OUT AHEAD, AND THAT WAS THE GREAT THING. BUT THERE IS SOME GREAT COMPETITION OUT THERE. YES AND CAN I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT FOR THE S MAYBE A LITTLE BIT TO TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF AND YOUR INTEREST IN SERVING ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. ALMOST SIX YEARS NOW. COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE CASTO COLUMBUS, THEN AND . FOR ALMOST 12 YEARS NOW, HMM.

JUST UNDER THAT. I. FELICIA ON THE PRESIDENT, VERY COLLECTING. FIRST PURPOSE. MHM WONDERFUL AGAIN. UM CONGRATULATIONS ON THE APPOINTMENT. I AM ACTUALLY FREQUENTLY SAID THAT IT'S HARDER TO BE A PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER THAN IT IS TO BE A COUNCIL MEMBER. SO OF COURSE YOU DON'T TELL YOU THAT AHEAD OF TIME, AND THAT'S MY PERSONAL VIEW. SO THE DECISIONS AND

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[ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]

THAT CONCLUDES OUR ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS HMM. THANK YOU. UM I BELIEVE THAT AT THE LAST MEETING YOU ASKED IF THE M IF THE COMPANY THAT WE HAD SELECTED COULD ALSO BE NOTIFIED ABOUT DOING THE PARKING LOT NEXT STORY. YEAH WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT GET THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF THE PARKING LOT PROJECT. OKAY THEY ARE AWARE OF IT, SO OKAY.

JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT THE. OKAY UM, HISTORICALLY, WE'VE BEEN ABOUT 60 SPACES SHORT DOWNTOWN. HOW MANY SPACES TO ANTICIPATE? BY THE TIME WE GET THIS COMPLETED THAT ESPECIALLY DURING THE EVENINGS WHEN THERE IS A NEED SOMETIMES NOW THAT BABYLON ATTACKS A GOOD NUMBER OF PEOPLE, SO HOW MANY PARKING LOT WILL ADD ABOUT 38 NEW SPACES? I BELIEVE RIGHT, JEREMY, GIVE OR TAKE ONE OR TWO. SO WE'RE GONNA ADD ABOUT 38 NEW SPACES AND THAT IN THE UPTOWN, OKAY, WONDERFUL.

SO THAT LEADS TO BE WITH THIS. WE ARE AT LEAST ABLE TO INCREASE BY AT LEAST 50% OF THE ONES.

SAID. AS YOU SAID, HISTORICALLY WE'VE BEEN SHOURD IN THE CITY OF MARRIAGE. WELL SO WONDERFUL.

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IT'S LIKE THE LOWER ACCESS SHINING DOWN UPON US. SO UM AND THEN ALSO, I WANTED TO SAY, LIKE GOING ON WHAT MR BURBEY JUST SAID. YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE? I KNOW WE HAVE. BUT DO WE HAVE STATISTICS THAT MAYBE WE CAN DO A PRESENTATION SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE COMING UPTOWN AND WHAT THE SENSORS ARE SHOWING AND WHAT THE BUSIEST TIMES OF THE DAYS ARE AND HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS ARE BEING USED AND NOT BEING USED DURING A GIVEN DAY AND KIND OF BREAKING THAT DOWN AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY DOWNLOADED THE APP, AND IT USES THE APP AND ALL THAT INFORMATION. THAT'S A GREAT POINT. AND WE PLAN TO HAVE SOME PRESENTATION. PROBABLY WE'RE GOING TO START AT PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE. OKAY NOW, IF WE WANT TO TALK TO COUNSEL ABOUT ABOUT DOING IT AND IT WORKS SESSION. WE CAN GO TO A WORK SESSION AND DO THAT PRESENTATION SO WE CAN WORK WITH COUNCIL ON WHAT WOULD BE THE PREFERRED AH, MEETING SO THAT KIND OF SHARE WITH SHARE THOSE RESULTS WITH YOU. OKAY AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANTED TO SAY IS THE BRICKS THAT ARE BEING USED FOR THE POCKET PARK. ARE THEY ARE THEY ACTUALLY CORRECTS OR ARE? ARE THEY NEW PAPERS OR THEY? THE BRICKS THAT WAS SALVAGED FROM WHEN WE PULLED UP THE STREET AND LIKE THAT'S WHEN HONDA CAME IN, AND WE HAD THAT BIG COMMITTEE TO YEAH, I KNOW. ASHLEY WENT BACK AND FORTH ON THAT AND WE WERE GONNA TRY TO REUSE THE ONES WE HAD. WHEN I DROVE BY. IT LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE OLD REUSED BRICKS, BUT I'LL I'LL CHECK INTO IN QUEBEC WITH YOU. I MEAN, I COULD WALK DOWN THERE. I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I SAW THE BANDS AND THEY LOOK LIKE THE NELSONS STAMPED BRICKS, BUT I WASN'T SURE. YOU KNOW, RIGHT WITH OTHER ONES. WE WENT OUT TO COUNT THEM JUST TO SEE IF WE HAD ENOUGH BEFORE WE STARTED AND WE GOT HALFWAY AND WE HAD SWAPPED DIFFERENT PRODUCTS. WE WANTED THE ULTIMATE MATCH, RIGHT AND FOR LIKE, HISTORY OF THAT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY STREET USED TO BE LINED WITH THE ORIGINAL BRICK SIDEWALKS WELL WHEN THE CITY USES THEIR GRANTS FROM THE SCHOOLS THEIR FUNDING. WHAT IS IT CALLED WALKABOUT SCHOOLS.

SCHOOLS SAFER OUT TO SCHOOLS? IT DOESN'T PAY FOR BRICKS, WHICH IS WHY A LOT OF HISTORICAL DISTRICTS DON'T USE THAT FUNDING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T PROTECT WHAT YOU KNOW THE ORIGINAL BRICK SIDEWALKS AND SO THOSE BRICKS WERE REMOVED. WELL WE DIDN'T WANT TO SEE THEM GO TO A LANDFILL. SO THEN ROBERT AND ABBY AND I BASED ON TEAM MARYSVILLE AND GETTING HISTORICAL ASSETS COMMITTEE, WE WERE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH HONDA. HANDED AS THE COMMUNITY DAY AND THEY SENT OUT LIKE I DON'T EVEN KNOW OVER 100 PEOPLE THAT DAY AND I'M NOT EVEN EXAGGERATING.

WE CLEANED THEM UP, AND NOW WE'RE ABLE TO REUSE THOSE. SO YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREAT SOURCE TO REUSE THOSE BRICKS. AND THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS ACTUALLY TO BRENT EVEN YES. WHAT HANG BERRY SAID, IS CORRECT. BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY ALSO IS THAT THE DECISIONS YOU MAKE. WE ARE SOMETHING WE ARE ALWAYS BLAMED FOR THEM. SO YOU GUYS GET YOU GUYS GET THE FREE PASS TO BRING IN DEVELOPMENT. WE GET BLAMED FOR IT. SO ANYWAY, GOOD LUCK TO YOU WITH REGARD TO THE BREAKING BEHIND, UH, IN THE PLAZA IN BEHIND THE ALPS, THERE'S A GOOD BLEND OF OLD BRICK BRICK THERE.

THEY'VE BEEN REUSED IN THAT LOCATION. OKAY ALREADY, AND THE OTHER QUESTIONS. COMMENTS FOR ADMINISTRATION. OKAY GETTING ON MOVING ON REPORT OF CLERK OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE

[PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT]

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ALREADY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THAT WOULD BE A CRITICAL CONSIDERATION FOR THE COMMUNITY . IT IS. YES THE READY IT WELL, IT'S ALMOST IN HISTORICAL SITE. YES. SO A LOT OF MEMORIES ON

[DESIGN REVIEW BOARD REPORT]

BUT WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS WAS THAT? PANDA EXPRESS AND EXPRESS . OKAY WHICH IS A KIND OF A FAST CASUAL CHINESE RESTAURANT. MHM ALREADY ANY QUESTIONS FROM KALE ON THE DESIGNER OF YOUR BOARD REPORT? OKAY WONDERFUL. OKAY, WELL DONE APPRECIATED. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY NOW WE'RE GETTING

[HEARING OF CITIZENS]

THIS IS A PRESENTATION AND ANY CITIZEN THAT WOULD LIKE WISHES TO SPEAK AS UP TO FIVE MINUTES TO TAKE THE PODIUM. HMM GO AHEAD . AND IF YOU DON'T TAKE THE PODIUM THAT WAY WE CAN PICK IT UP AT THE MAKEUP ON WHILE YOU DO YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO I'M TIFFANY WOULD I AM JUST A MARYSVILLE RESIDENT . I'M ACTUALLY STANDING UP HERE . UM I'M ONE OF THE LEAD PARENTS FOR THE MARYSVILLE HIGH SCHOOL. JUST ASKING QUESTIONS AND WANTING SOME EXPLANATION OR ACTUALLY CLARIFICATION FOR THE PARENTS THAT I HAVE TO ADDRESS IN REGARDS TO THE SCHOOL LEVY.

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ON ANY OTHER TOPIC. OKAY ALREADY , THEN I HAVE NO PROBLEM IF YOU WANT TO, UM, THOSE ARE ALREADY PREPARED REMARKS. THIS WAS GOING TO BE MY COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE NIGHT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THAT'S RIGHT. NO SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN THE COMMUNITY SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS AND PRINT MEDIA ABOUT THE TIPS HERE IN MARYSVILLE. FIRST AND

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BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT TIFFS. LET'S DISCUSS HOW SOME DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES ARE FUNDED HERE IN OHIO COUNTIES ARE PRIMARILY FUNDED BY SALES TAX CITIES ARE PRIMARILY FUNDED BY INCOME TAX AND SCHOOL SYSTEMS ARE PERMIT PRIMARILY FUNDED BY PROPERTY TAX AND STATE FUNDING.

SO YES, IT IS TRUE. WHEN WE ARE DISCUSSING TIFFS, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS THE ENTITY THAT MISSES OUT THE MOST ON THE INCREASED TAX AMOUNT ON THE PROPERTY. HERE IN MARYSVILLE. WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF TIFFS. ONE IS RESIDENTIAL ONE IS COMMERCIAL. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO IS VERY SIGNIFICANT. RESIDENTIAL TIFFS BY THEIR TITLE ARE DESIGNED FOR NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH USUALLY CONTAINS CHILDREN THAT NEED TO BE EDUCATED BY THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. COMMERCIAL TIFFS ARE FOR BUSINESSES AND JOBS AND DO NOT TYPICALLY COME WITH CHILDREN THAT NEED TO BE EDUCATED BY THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. THERE IS ONE EXCEPTION TO THAT. AND THAT IS THAT MULTI FAMILY IS ACTUALLY CONSIDERED A COMMERCIAL TIFF. BUT BASED ON THE RENTAL RATES AND THE LIMITED BEDROOMS, MOST IT FOR THE MULTI FAMILY THAT ARE BEING BUILT NOW OR ONE OR TWO BEDROOMS. WE USUALLY DON'T SEE AS MANY CHILDREN IN OUR NEW MULTI FAMILY HOUSING AREAS AS WE USED TO SEE. 20 YEARS AGO. DISCUSSED THE RESIDENTIAL TIFFS IN EARLY TWO THOUSANDS. CITY'S WATER TREATMENT FACILITY WAS OVERCAPACITY, OVERCAPACITY AND VERY OUTDATED. THE EPA REQUIRED THE CITY TO BUILD A NEW ONE FUNDS WERE NOT AVAILABLE TO COMPLETE THAT CONSTRUCTION IN THE NEAR TERM. WITHOUT A DEDICATED SOURCE OF REVENUE THAT COULD BE USED AS COLLATERAL FOR THE NECESSARY LOAN. SO IN 2004 IN COLLABORATION WITH THE THEN SUPERINTENDENT AND SCHOOL BOARD , THE CITY CREATED A NEW RESIDENTIAL TIFF ON THE FOLLOWING NEIGHBORHOODS. ADINA POINT WALKER MEADOWS, KEYSTONE CROSSING. CHESTNUT CROSSING LINKS VILLAGE WOULD SIT MILL VALLEY SCOTT FARMS AND THE LEGENDS SHOULD BE NOTED. THE PEOPLE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE PAYING THE EXACT SAME TAX RATE AS ALL THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS. IT'S JUST WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING IS DIFFERENT. THE RESIDENTIAL TIFF FUNDS WERE DESIGNATED TO BE USED FOR A PORTION OF THE DEBT PAYMENT OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT ALONG STATE ROUTE 33, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS APPROXIMATELY $210 MILLION WAS THE TOTAL PROJECT LINES AND EVERYTHING THE LINES AND EVERYTHING. THESE TIPS WERE CREATED TO NOT ONLY HELP PAY FOR THE NEW FACILITY TO SERVE THE CURRENT RESIDENTS. BUT ALSO TO BUILD A LARGE ENOUGH FACILITY THAT COULD SERVE THESE NEW NEIGHBORHOODS. RESIDENTS ALONG WITH THE FUTURE GROWTH AS WELL.

AT THIS TIME, WE ALSO BECAME THE WATER AND SEWER UTILITY PROVIDER FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY RESIDENTS ON OUR UTILITY SYSTEM THAT LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. 10% HIGHER RATE THAN THOSE INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IF THESE TWO FUNDS WERE NOT IN PLACE. THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD NOT EXIST. AND IF YOU LIVE IN ONE OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND YOU LIKE MARYSVILLE, YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE. WE COULDN'T HAVE GROWN. ALL THE RESIDENTIAL TIPS ARE 30 YEAR TIFFS AND ARE SET TO EXPIRE IN 2034 OR 2035, DEPENDING ON THE EXACT DATE OF COMMENCEMENT FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL TIFF. THESE ARE THE ONLY RESIDENTIAL TIFFS WE HAVE INSTITUTED, AND THIS BODY HAS STATED PUBLICLY THAT WE HAVE NO INTEREST IN PLACING ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL TIFFS. AS PART OF THE TIPS CREATION, A COMPENSATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND THE CITY WAS ALSO RATIFIED. IT REQUIRES THE CITY TO SEND A PERCENTAGE OF THE TIFF REVENUES BACK TO THE SCHOOL AFTER EACH COLLECTION BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR, WHICH IS TWICE A YEAR. THE PERCENTAGE FORMULA USD COLLECTION RATES OF THE COUNTY AUDITOR. BUT IT DOES NOT GENERALLY DEVIATE DEVIATE. MUCH

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BUT REMEMBER IT HAS TO BE IN OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT FUND. WE CAN'T MOVE IT TO A GENERAL FUND TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT. SO CURRENTLY THE CITY'S PORTION WOULD CONTINUE TO BE USED TO PAY DOWN OUR EXISTING DEBT, AND WE COULD POSSIBLY PAY DOWN THE DEBT QUICKER. WE CURRENTLY BELIEVE.

THAT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT FUND IS PERFORMING WELL. SO THE CITY COULD POSSIBLY USE THESE FUNDS IN A DIFFERENT MANNER. ONE OPTION WOULD BE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE SCHOOL A NEW COMPENSATION AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM PAIN. BEING PAID A HIGHER PERCENTAGE, ALLOWING THEM TO CAPTURE MORE OF THAT INCREASED REVENUE WITH LESS GOING INTO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN TREATMENT FUND. GIVEN THAT THE TIFF REVENUES WERE USED TO SECURE DEBT. ANY MODIFICATION OF THE COMPENSATION AGREEMENT WOULD REQUIRE US TO ENSURE WE WERE STILL ABLE TO MEET OUR FIDUCIARY OBLIGATIONS WHILE NOT VIOLATING ANY DEBT COVENANTS TO OUR BONDHOLDERS, AND TO BE QUITE FRANK 10 YEARS AGO, WE WERE IN VIOLATION OF DEBT COVENANTS. OKAY? ALSO THAT MODIFICATION WHERE YOU REQUIRE THE AGREEMENT OF BOTH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL. WITH ALL THESE PIECES IN PLACE. THIS TYPE OF MODIFICATION WOULD TAKE SOME TIME TO ENSURE THAT ALL PARTIES LEGAL AND FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS ARE MET. LUCKILY WE WOULD HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO WORK OUT THOSE DETAILS AS THAT AGREEMENT MODIFICATION WOULD NOT NEED TO BE IN PLACE UNTIL THE FIRST COLLECTION DISTRIBUTION BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR WHEN THE LEVY IS APPLIED. SO ASSUMING THE LEVEE PASSES, UH ON MAY 2ND, WHICH I WILL BE VOTING FOR. THE FIRST DISTRIBUTION WOULD NOT BE UNTIL APRIL OF 2024. SO WE HAVE A LITTLE TIME. ANOTHER OPTION. THIS BOARD CITY COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER IS USING THESE FUNDS TO REDUCE THE SEWER RATES CHARGED TO ALL RESIDENTS ON OUR SEWER SYSTEM. TO OFFER A SEWER RELATE RATE REDUCTION, WE WOULD HAVE OUR UTILITY RATE COMMITTEE

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OCTOBER 2008 IN JUNE 2015. OUR EDITH COVERS. MANY TYPES OF INCENTIVES OFFERED, INCLUDING REAL ESTATE, TECH REAL PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT. IN THE INNER ZONE ENTERPRISE ZONE. COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA, MUNICIPAL INCOME TAX REBATES AND MUNICIPALITIES OR JOINT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS. INFRASTRUCTURE COST PARTICIPANTS PARTICIPATION. INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BONDS. TAX INCREMENT FINANCING TIFFS UNION COUNTY REVOLVING LOAN FUND AND FOREIGN TRADE ZONES. IF DEB WAS HERE, SHE CHARGE YOU FOR THAT. SHOULD BE UNDERSTOOD, OR EDITH IS A GUIDELINE FOR NEGOTIATION PURPOSES ONLY EACH OPPORTUNITY IS UNIQUE AND INCENTIVES ARE OFFERED BASED ON THE MERITS OF EACH DEAL. THE REVENUE GENERATED BY THESE ABATEMENTS ARE DISTRIBUTED TO THE CENTRAL CITY'S GENERAL FUND, NOT ONE OF OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS. AND ARE USUALLY USED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE INCENTIVE DISTRICTS SUCH AS WATER, SEWER AND ROADS. THE EGYPT LAYS OUT KEY FACTORS THAT ARE TO BE CONSIDERED WHEN AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM IS CONTEMPLATED FOR A BUSINESS THERE'S LOCATING OR EXPANDING IN MARYSVILLE OR UNION COUNTY. COULD YOU PULL UP PAGE SEVEN, PLEASE? B IS ALL OF THE KEY FACTORS TO BE CONSIDERED. SO ONE. THE INCENTIVE PACKAGE SHOULD BE COMPETITIVE WITH THOSE OFFERED BY OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE OF OHIO REGION AND OTHER COMPETING LOCATIONS. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE. PACKAGE SHOULD BE STRUCTURED SUCH THAT PERSPECTIVE PROJECTS WHICH GENERATE NEW, FULL TIME JOBS, HIGHER PAYING JOBS AND OR GREATER ADDITIONS TO THE LOCAL TAX BASE. SHOULD RECEIVE A PROPORTIONATELY MORE FAVORABLE SET OF INCENTIVES. SOME FLEXIBILITY SHOULD BE BUILT. INTO THE INSTEAD OF PACKAGE OFFERED IN ORDER TO ADAPT THE PARTICULAR NEEDS OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS OR BUSINESSES. IN KEEPING WITH THE ADAGE THAT ONCE YOU'VE SEEN ONE DEAL, YOU'VE SEEN ONE DEAL. EXPANSION PROJECTS OF EXISTING COMPANIES SHOULD ALSO ALWAYS BE CONSIDERED FOR INCENTIVES. WE WANT TO INCENT. BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALREADY HERE THAT WANT TO EXPAND. THE RETENTION OF THE BUSINESS AND JOBS, ALONG WITH THE POTENTIAL NEW INVESTMENT AND CREATION OF NEW JOBS WILL SOLIDIFY THE COMPANY'S PRESENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I THINK WE COULD LIST QUITE A FEW SCOTS HERITAGE. SUMITOMO. ERIC COULD PROBABLY LISTEN EVEN MORE. THOSE ARE JUST THREE THAT COME OFF IN MY HEAD. PERFORMANCE BASED INCENTIVES SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED SO THAT BUSINESSES DELIVER THE JOBS, PAYROLL AND INVESTMENT PROMISED. CLAWBACK PROVISIONS SHOULD ALWAYS BE PART OF ANY DIRECT FINANCIAL INCENTIVE, INCLUDING A PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT OR MUNICIPAL INCOME TAX CREDIT. BUSINESSES WHICH PLAN A HIGHER NUMBER OF JOBS, HIGHER PAYROLL. AND OR

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COLUMN FOUR ANNUAL PAYROLL. FIVE IS THE AMOUNT OF THE ABATEMENT THAT WE TYPICALLY OFFER AND THEN SIX IS THE TERM. AGAIN THAT IS A GUIDELINE FOR THE NEGOTIATION. WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT ONE SPECIFICALLY HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. WHERE THE REAL PROPERTY INVESTMENT IS $7.5 MILLION, WHICH IS A LEVEL SIX, WHICH WOULD GET THEM 75% 10 YEARS. HMM THE JOB NUMBER IS 55 , SO THAT WOULD BE AT A LEVEL FIVE. THE PAYROLL IS 2.5 MILLION, SO THAT WOULD BE 65% AND NINE YEARS SO. THAT GIVES YOU A RANGE AS TO WHERE WE WOULD BE NEGOTIATING WITH THEM TO START. AND YOU AS YOU'LL SEE IN OUR ORDINANCE LATER. WHERE WE ENDED UP WITH NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM WAS A 75 10. WE ALSO HAVE A TAX INCENTIVE REVIEW COMMITTEE THAT MEETS ANNUALLY. THIS GROUP IS CHARGED WITH REVIEWING COMPLIANCE OF THE COMPANIES WHO ARE RECEIVING TAX ABATEMENTS TO MAKE SURE THEY CONTINUE TO MEET THEIR PLEDGES OF REAL PROPERTY INVESTMENT NUMBER OF JOBS CREATED NUMBER OF JOBS RETAINED AND MINIMUM PAYROLL. IF THE COMPANY IS IN COMPLIANCE, AND IT'S EASY TO ABATEMENT CONTINUES , AS IS THE COMPANY IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE. THEN THE TURK. WORKS WITH THE COMPANY TO INVESTIGATE THE CAUSE OF THE NONCOMPLIANCE AND DETERMINE IF IT CAN BE CORRECTED IN THE FUTURE. AND I'LL BE QUITE HONEST OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS. WE'VE HAD A LITTLE THING CALLED COVID, AND SO, UM THE TURK HAS OPTED TO WORK WITH COMPANIES AND LEAVE.

ABATEMENTS IN PLACE, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AT THE THRESHOLDS THEY HAD PROMISED.

HOWEVER. COVID IS PRETTY MUCH DONE IN AT LEAST IN THE TURK SIZE. UM SO WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH A COMPANY RIGHT NOW, WHO DOESN'T MEET THE MINIMUM THRESHOLDS AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE BEST FOR ALL OF US INVOLVED. SO THERE IS FOLLOW UP . UM, THE TURK. MAY THEN CONCLUDE TO CONTINUE. THE INCENTIVE AS IS, IF IT'S IF IT'S NOT MEETING THE. IF IT'S NOT IN COMPLIANCE, THEY CAN ALTER IT OR THEY CAN DISCONTINUING. BUT ALL THE TURK DOES IS MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE GOVERNING BODY. SO ANY THAT OCCURS IN THE CITY OF MARY'S SO THAT WOULD COME BACK IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL AND WE WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ALTER AND ABATEMENT. IN 2022. THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE PAID THE SCHOOL

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COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS OCCUR. YEAH. THE SCHOOLS WOULD GET THE TAXES OF FARMLAND. YEAH YEAH, IN FACT, THE ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT TONIGHT. UM THEY CURRENTLY GET $800 A YEAR.

IN THE ABATEMENT PERIOD OF 10 YEARS, THEY WILL BE GETTING $33,000. PLUS THEY ALSO GOT A, UM PILOT PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES OF AN ADDITIONAL $8500 PER YEAR. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE GETTING 41 $2000 PER YEAR. PREVIOUSLY THEY WERE GETTING 800. NOW IT IS NOT 100% OF WHAT IT WOULD BE IF THERE WAS NOT A TAX INCENTIVE. FOR THE COMPANY. BUT MORE THAN IT'S FAR MORE THAN 11. I WENT TO MARYSVILLE. MY WIFE WAS A MATH TEACHER, AND I LEARNED REAL QUICK. $33,000.41.

IS MORE THAN 800. YOU KNOW, SO YEAH, WE COULD ROLL THE DICE AND , HEY, WE'RE NOT GONNA OFFER ANY INCENTIVES. SEE HOW MANY COMPANIES LOCATE HERE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UM. SCHOOLS FINANCING. IT'S ABOUT 25% COMES FROM COMMERCIAL TAXES. TAXES ON BUSINESSES. HAVE YOU WASTEWATER TREATMENT TRUE? TRUE I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE ALL THE INPUT. AND THE OTHER ONES ON ANOTHER RELATED SUBJECTS. OKAY. HEARING DONE. WE MOVE ON TO THE ORDER OF BUSINESS AND WE GO INTO THE ORDINANCES ORDINANCE A FIRST

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HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE SCREEN UP NORTH. SO THAT'S THE BACKING ROUND RUNOFF COOKS BOULEVARD. KIND OF LEADS INTO TACO BELL THERE RIGHT NEXT TO FRIENDSHIP VILLAGE. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE COOK'S POINT. REDWAY IMPROVEMENTS QUESTIONS ORDINANCE IS FOR DEDICATION OF MITCHELL HIGHLANDS SECTION SIX PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, SO THAT IS OUT IN THE COUNTY MACKENZIE.

IF YOU'RE ABLE TO GO TO THE SECOND SCREEN, THANK YOU. THAT IS THE LOCATION OF MITCHELL HIGHLANDS SECTION SIX, SO THAT WOULD BE JUST WATER AND SANITARY. SO THIS IS OUT IN THE COUNTY, SO WE ONLY OPERATE AND MAINTAIN WATER AND SANITARY. ANY QUESTIONS ON MITCHELL HIGHLANDS ? YEAH PARTICULAR ONE IS OUTSIDE OF THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH JEROME, EVEN THOUGH IT IS IN JEROME TOWNSHIP, BUT THIS ONE WILL BE VILLAGE. CORRECT YES. SO THIS ONE, WE WILL HAVE BOTH WATER. AND SO WE'RE NOT JUST WATER, BUT WE HAVE THOSE BOATS. EXACTLY. YEAH. YEP. AND THE LAST ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. MACKENZIE IS THAT THE VILLAGE AND TIMBERLAKE'S PHASE FIVE, SECTION TWO. YEAH AND I BELIEVE THAT ONE SHOULD JUST BE PUBLIC UTILITIES. THERE'S NO ROADWAYS ASSOCIATED WITH VILLAGE AND TIMBERLAKE'S ON THEIR OWN. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT THAT ISN'T UP ON THE SCREEN AND GREEN. I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT HMM. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, CAROLINE. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY SO WE DID DO THE ORDINANCE A PUT THE GOOD OF THE ORDER. YOU STILL NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE OTHER ONES AS AN INTRODUCTION FOR TONIGHT. ORDINANCE BE FIRST READING TITLE, ONLY TO ACCEPT THE DEDICATION OF THE COOK'S POINT SECTION. ONE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE OKAY. KEEP GOING ALREADY BE HAD THE ADMINISTRATION. UM PRESENTATION ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? OKAY THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY 8TH OR 2023 ORDINANCE SEE FIRST READING TITLE ONLY TO ACCEPT THE DEDICATION OF THE MITCHELL HIGHLANDS SECTION SIX PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. OKAY WE HAD TO PRESENTATION AND QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. RENOWNED TO BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY EIGHT, AND THEN THE LAST ONE ORDINANCE, D FIRST READING TITLE , ONLY TO ACCEPT THE DEDICATION OF THE VILLAGE AT TIMBERLAKE'S FAITH. FACE FIVE, SECTION TWO PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. OKAY AND AGAIN. WE HAD THE PRESENTATION.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ANY NONE. THIS ONE WILL BE BACK FOR SECRETARY LEADING PUBLIC HEARING

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CELLS HERE ON BEHALF OF AMERICANS WILL FLEX, UM, WITH PIRATE DEVELOPMENT WHERE THE DEVELOPER AND THE OWNER ON THE PROPERTY. UM PICKED A GOOD NIGHT TO GET A PRIMER ON CITY TAX PROGRAMS AND INVESTMENTS. SO UM , SO WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED IS A 55,000 SQUARE FOOT. MULTI TENANT , UH, FLEX FACILITY ON INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY DIRECTLY IN CITIES INNOVATION PARK. UM WE THINK THAT THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT ISN'T STRONG DEMAND. THERE IS NOT COMPARABLE PRODUCT IN EACH CITY. ALTHOUGH THERE'S BEEN SOME REALLY GREAT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA, A LOT OF THAT HAS BEEN TARGETED TOWARDS LARGER USERS. AND OUR GOAL WE'RE EXCITED FOR IS, YOU KNOW AS WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY AND TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO BRING A PRODUCT THAT'S NEEDED ASPECT OF THE PRODUCT LIKE THIS TO GIVE SPACE FOR SMALLER BUSINESSES. WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND OUR COMPANY AREA THAT CURRENTLY JUST DON'T HAVE THE SPACE TO DO THAT. WE THINK THAT MARYSVILLE IS A TREMENDOUS GROWING COMMUNITY TO WORK IN. WE'RE EXCITED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN THE COMMUNITY AND BE PART OF THIS CONTINUED GROWTH. UM AS WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT HERE A LITTLE BIT AGO. THERE ARE SOME VERY REAL DEVELOPMENT COST CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH THESE TYPES OF SPECULATIVE PRODUCTS. IN THESE TYPES OF INCENTIVES, COLLABORATION. SUPPORT FROM THE CITY ARE FRANKLY CRUCIAL TO SUPPORT THE VIABILITY FEASIBILITY OF PROJECTS LIKE THESE, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE VERY ENCOURAGED BY AND APPRECIATIVE OF THE SUPPORT COLLABORATION THAT WE'VE HAD, THUS FAR FROM THE CITY AND ITS TEAM AND GETTING THE PROJECT TO THIS POINT. THANK YOU ALL. AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO SAY IF YOU WORDS OKAY? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DAVID? LIKE FOR BRAD? DAD A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S SAKE ON THIS. I THINK THERE'S EVEN MORE INFORMATION THAT CAN BE BENEFICIAL. BRAD YES. SO I JUST WANT TO, UM GOING TO A TINY BIT MORE DETAILED WITH COUNCIL PERSON RASH ALREADY DISCUSSED, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, THE EVEN WITH THE 75% OF PAYMENT, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WITH WHAT'S IN FRONT OF COUNCIL RIGHT NOW WILL RECEIVE AN ESTIMATED $33,000 A YEAR IN PROPERTY TAXES. BUT AFTER THE 10 YEAR ABATEMENT THERE WILL BE AN ESTIMATED $132,000 A YEAR. IN PROPERTY TAXES, AND I THINK THAT'S JUST REALLY IMPORTANT.

EMPHASIZE. ONCE AGAIN, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT $800 A YEAR, SO THE $800 A YEAR IS GOING TO BECOME $33,000 A YEAR FOR 10 YEARS AND $132,000 A YEAR AFTER THAT PRIVATE TAXES PAID BY THE COMPANY. IN ADDITION FOR DURING THE 10 YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT, AND BY THE WAY, ERIC WOULD LITERALLY SLAPPED ME UPSIDE THE HEAD IF I DIDN'T KEEP SAYING ESTIMATED, EVERY NUMBER I'M SAYING IS ESTIMATED. EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE. DURING THE 10 YEARS OF THE PAYMENT, THE DEVELOPER WILL PAY THE SCHOOLS $8500 A YEAR IN THE FORM OF A PILOT PAYMENT PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES. SO OBVIOUSLY OVER 10 YEARS THAT BE A $5000. ONE TOGETHER OTHERWISE WOULDN'T BE COLLECTED AND THEN FINALLY, ALONG WITH THE PROPERTY TAXES AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH THE SCHOOLS, THERE IS A INCOME TAX REVENUE SHARE AGREEMENT THAT COMES INTO PLAY ONCE AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE PRODUCT OF THE INCOME TAXES EARNED FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. AH THAT NUMBER COULD BE VERY MUCH IN FLUX. BUT RIGHT NOW THAT AMOUNT IS ESTIMATED TO BE $43,900 DURING THE LIFE. OF THE ABATEMENT SO ADDING UP ALL THE ESTIMATED AMOUNTS THAT WOULD BE $425,000 IN TOTAL MONEY'S THE SCHOOL WOULD RECEIVE DURING THE ABATEMENT PERIOD AS OPPOSED TO $8000. NORMALLY WE DON'T GO INTO THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL WHEN YOU ARE CONSIDERING A PAYMENTS ONCE AGAIN, GIVEN THE DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING. OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND HERE EVEN TODAY, I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO TAKE THE EXTRA TIME TO EMPHASIZE THOSE NUMBERS. OKAY? ALREADY. SINCE THIS ONE IS SECOND READING. WE'VE HEARD ADMINISTRATION SITE ANY WORD FROM COUNSEL, MR PRESIDENT. UM JUST TO GET A COUPLE COUPLE MORE. DETAILS INTO THE WEEDS. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS WOULD BE A LEVEL SIX ON OUR UH, AT A $7.5 MILLION TOTAL INVESTMENT. IT WOULD BE A LEVEL FIVE WITH 55

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WE CANNOT WE MUST NOT MAKE DECISIONS ONLY IN OUR ENTITIES BEST INTEREST, BUT IN THE INTEREST OF OUR RESIDENTS AND TAXPAYERS. WE CANNOT GOVERN INSIDE THOSE BECAUSE OUR INTERESTS ARE EXTRAORDINARILY WEBBED TOGETHER. TONIGHT. I'M HERE TO ASK COUNSEL. VERY THOUGHTFUL AND STRATEGIC IN THE MANNER FOR REWARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES TO CONSIDER THREE QUESTIONS. QUESTION ONE. WHAT IS OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY? AND HOW DOES THIS INCENTIVE PROPOSAL MEET OR DEFINED OBJECTIVES. TO WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THIS DECISION ON OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS? AND IS IT JUSTIFIABLE TO OUR TAXPAYERS AND RESIDENTS? THREE. IN 10 YEARS WILL BE PROUD OF THE CHOICE I MADE TODAY. THE SEA OF MARYSVILLE STRATEGIC PLAN IDENTIFIES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS ITS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY SPECIFICALLY TARGETS RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT MOBILITY, AGRICULTURAL SCIENCE. AEROSPACE AND ADVANCED MANUFACTURING COMPANIES. DOES THIS PARTICULAR ABATEMENT PROJECT ACHIEVED THIS GOAL? ARE WE WELCOMING A SPECIFIC COMPANY WHO PROVIDE A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF JOBS? WITH THEM. THESE TARGETED INDUSTRIES. OR WE BAITING TAXES ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF A COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT MAY OR MAY NOT ACHIEVE THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE.

AS IT STANDS TODAY, THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR THE TYPE OF JOBS THIS DEVELOPMENT MUST PRODUCE.

THE ESTIMATES SALARY PER JOB IS 50 K ANNUALLY. THE COUNTY CURRENTLY HAS NO EMPLOYMENT RATE OF 3.1. MANY EMPLOYEES. EMPLOYERS WHO OFFER OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE 50 K RANGE HAVE OPENINGS TODAY. EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE APPROVED HARDY WORLD WHICH LOCAL BOARD OF EDUCATION ALSO AGREED TO PLEDGE 75 JOBS WITH THE ESTIMATE. SALARY. 50 K. WITH TONIGHT'S PROJECT, THE CITY WILL NOW HAVE INCENTIVIZED TO PROJECTS BRINGING 100 AND 25 NEW JOBS.

BUT THE ESTIMATES SALARY OF 50 K BUT NO REQUIREMENT FOR TARGETED INDUSTRY. AGAIN THE COUNTY CURRENTLY HAS AN UNEMPLOYMENT RATE OF 3.1. FROM A PROPERTY, SO LET'S LET'S THINK ABOUT HOW THIS DECISION IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND IS IT JUSTIFIABLE TO OUR TAXPAYERS FROM PROPERTY STAMPED PROPERTY TAX STANDPOINT? THE ANNUAL ESTIMATED TAX WITHOUT ABATEMENT IS 135 JUST OVER 100 AND 34 K PER YEAR. THE PUBLIC ENTITIES WHO DEPEND ON PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, EVERY COUNTY TOWNSHIP LIBRARY AND SCHOOL DISTRICT. SOME WILL SAY 33 K IS GREATER THAN ONE K. AND I SAY 33 K IS LESS THAN 134 K. BUT FOR WHAT VALUE SPECULATIVE PROJECT NOT BE SECURED WITHOUT AN INCENTIVE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO YOUR NEIGHBOR WHY NEW COMMERCIAL BUILDING WHO WILL NEED TO FIND TENANTS SHOULD BE INCENTIVIZED. WE'VE HEARD THE WORDS GROWTH SHOULD PAY FOR ITSELF. BUT IS

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AS AS LEGISLATIVE BODY. THANK YOU ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. I JUST HAVE ONE. UM, BRAD. UH IF YOU ON THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD DO YOU KNOW JUST FOR PUBLIC RECORD ? HOW MUCH EACH ONE OF US GET PAID RIGHT NOW. A BALLPARK. THEY DID NOT AT THE TIME I GOT NOT NUMBER UNCOMFORTABLE. THANK YOU.

BRIAN DO YOU HAVE A PRIVATE 100 ? YES YEAR 8370 YEAR. OKAY YEAH , THAT'S YEAH, THAT WOULD BE THE NUMBER. THAT'S THE NEW NUMBER THAT WOULD BE IN THE LEGISLATION HAS PASSED ITS CURRENT THAT'S CURRENT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS HER. YEAH. I WAS JUST MAKING SURE BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK THAT WE'RE GETTING PAID A LOT OF MONEY, AND THEN I HAVE TO TELL THEM IT'S LESS THAN 10 GRAND A YEAR AND THEY'RE VERY SURPRISED. MOST RESIDENTS ARE ALWAYS SHOCKED WITH HOW MUCH LITTLE MONEY WE ARE ACTUALLY PAID. SO THANK YOU. YEAH, RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY? WELL IF YOU DO WANT TO GO INTO THE WEEDS, THE INCREASE AMOUNTS ABOUT $5 PER WEEK. UH, FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS AND THEN AGAIN $5 PER WEEK AFTER THAT, SO THAT THAT GETS YOU TO THE NEXT LEVEL. OKAY SO THAT'S A LOWER SORRY I COULDN'T HELP BUT THAT'S FOR THE KIDS. THAT'S WHAT IT CAME OUT WITH. SO ANYWAY, UM SO IF YOU WOULD INDULGE ME A LITTLE BIT OF THAT LITTLE I HAVE A STORY HERE. THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMEWHAT RELEVANT TO YOUR SITUATION, PARTICULARLY TO THE CONCERNS THAT COUNCIL PERSON CORPORATE BROUGHT UP. SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW THAT I WAS RECENTLY APPOINTED TO THE MID OHIO REGIONAL WATER SEWER DISTRICT, WHICH IS OVERSEEING THE REGIONALIZATION OF THE WATER AND SEWER ASSETS OF MADISON COUNTY. AND AS PART OF THAT THIS IS A BRAND NEW BOARD. BRAND SPANKING NEW, LIKE DOESN'T EXIST. IT HAD A WHOLE CLOTH. AND SO WE HAD TO COME UP WITH HOW TO COMPENSATE OURSELVES. AND YOU KNOW, TRANSPORTATION CARPENTER. YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT LIKE THE PROCESS IS SET UP. YOU KNOW, OUR PROCESS WAS ONCE AGAIN AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY. WE HAD TO SET OUR OWN COMPENSATION. AND YOU KNOW, WE DID WHAT BRIAN DID, ALTHOUGH I WILL ADMIT NOT NEARLY AS EXTENSIVE AS WHAT BRIAN DID, BUT NO NO ONE QUITE MATCHES THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL, AND WE, YOU

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THERE IS AN INTEREST ON COUNCILS POWERED TO WAVE TO THIRD READING . THIS DOES REQUIRE 60 VOTES IN FAVOR TO PASS AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO BEING ABLE TO PURSUE TONIGHT. OTHERWISE WE'LL KEEP IT AT SECOND READING. IN IN ORDER TO KEEP ALL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AH UPDATES TO OUR ZONING CODE. UM MOVING ON THE SAME TIMELINE AND EVERYTHING UPDATED AT ONCE. I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO WAVE THE THIRD READING. WE'VE DISCUSSED AT THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME AS THE OTHERS. OKAY, NUMBER OF MEETINGS, SO I MOVED THAT WE WAIVE THIRD READING AND IF WE DON'T GET SIX BOATS, IT'S SIMPLY GOES NEXT MEETING. YEAH OKAY, BUT IT WILL HELP SPEED THE PROJECT. UM, MAKES EVERYTHING SIMPLER. SO IF YOU COULD DO THE ALCOHOL, PLEASE, MR RASH? YES.

WITH YOUR DREAMS, MR CARPENTER? YES MR SEYMOUR. MR BERGER? YES MR BURPEE? YES. YES, OKAY. SO WE HAVE WAIVED THE SEARCH READING AND, UM, THAT WE'RE READY TO PROMOTION TO PASTOR LEGISLATION . I'M SORRY IF THERE'S ANY CITIZENS FIRST. OKAY CITIZENS NOW. OH THANK YOU. SO MUCH FOR CORRECTION AND HE CITIZENS. COMMENTS ANY QUESTIONS AND MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. HEY SO CALLED PLEASE, MR REEMS? YES MR CARPENTER. MR SEYMOUR? YES, MR BERGER? YES BE YES. YES YES. OKAY THAT'S THAT'S FINISH UP THE ORDINANCE G MOVING ONTO

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MISTER BURBEY? YES MR ROUSH REAMS? YES, MR CARPENTER? YES SIX. YES MOVING ONTO ORDINANCE.

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OKAY ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL OKAY, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PESTER LEGISLATION. SOMETHING HERE, MR REEMS, MOST OF BETTER LEGISLATION. LOCAL POLICE, MR BERGER? YES MR BURPEE? YES YES.

YES MR CARPENTER. YES MR SEYMOUR ? SIX YES, UM, ORDINANCE. KAY. THIRD READING TITLE ONLY

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[COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL PERSONS AND GENERAL DISCUSSION]

YEAH MHM CARWASH. ETCETERA IS THAT'S THE BUILDING WAS STANDING WHEN I WAS YOUNG, BUT IT WAS A CARPORT IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE 11 OTHER HERE THAT IT IS RELATIVE TO THE AGE GROUP HERE. SEVERAL OF OUR MARYSVILLE GROWNUPS ARE MISSING THE PLEASURE OF RADIO. BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO PROUD TO ASK THE LITTLE BOY NEXT DOOR. HOW TO SET IT UP. YEAH YEAH, EVEN THE CELLPHONE RADIO, AND I'M CURIOUS IF THERE WAS, UH, OIL IF IT WAS ACTUALLY BUILT AND IF THE OIL THINKS ARE STILL THERE, SO THAT'S A THAT'S A BIG QUESTION. BUT THE SUBURBS THAT'S HIS SUMMER YES. ALRIGHT MR BERGER. I JUST I JUST HAD A LITTLE LITTLE THING I WROTE UP ABOUT, LIKE HOUSING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND WE GET AN EMAIL THAT SAID THAT UNION COUNTIES AVERAGE HOUSE IS 416,000 UP 6 16.6 AND ONLY 12.55. PEOPLE IN UNION AND UNION COUNTY CANNOT AFFORD A HOME AND WE ARE THE SECOND HIGHEST HOUSEHOLD INCOME IN THE STATE OF OHIO. WELL NATIONAL AVERAGE FOR A HOME IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE, AND THERE ARE STATES THAT ARE WAY HIGHER THAN OURS, INCLUDING, LIKE NORTH CAROLINA, UH, AUSTIN, TEXAS AND OTHER ONES, THE AVERAGE HOME IN AMERICA NOW COST THE AVERAGE FAMILY $428,700 700 DOLLARS. BASED ON THE UNITED STATES.

CENSUS THE CHEAPEST PLACE TO BUY A HOME IN THE UNITED STATES AS YOUNG YOUNGSTOWN, OHIO, AT $115,000, THE AVERAGE AGE OF A HOMEBUYER IN 1990 WAS 27 YEARS OLD, THE AVERAGE HOME OF A HOMEBUYER TODAY IS 36 YEARS OLD. YOU NEED AT LEAST 20% DOWN TO BUY A HOUSE IN AMERICA 87% OF AMERICANS BELIEVE THEY CANNOT AFFORD A HOME. THE 2008 RECESSION. MADE IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO BUY A HOME TODAY, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE LEARNED WHEN I WAS IN PLAYING IN SCHOOL. THEY ALL EVERYONE ALL EVERYBODY SAID THIS BEFORE THE GREAT RECESSION OF 2008. THERE WERE THERE WERE THREE HOMES FOR EVERYONE. BUYER NOW, TODAY YOU HAVE YOU HAVE THREE BUYERS FOR EVERYONE HOUSE, WHICH IS THE PRICE HAS GONE UP DRAMATICALLY BECAUSE OF THAT. SO THE OTHER QUESTION BECOMES, AS THAT'S ONE REASON THERE'S A HOUSING SHORTAGE AND IN THIS COUNTRY, WHICH THEN PEOPLE WILL PUSH WE GOTTA BUILD. WE GOTTA BUILD. WE GOTTA BUILD. BUT THE OTHER PART

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THIS IS THE AVERAGE AMERICAN. THIS GOES WITH, LIKE MILLION DOLLAR PROPERTIES AND NON MILLION DOLLAR PROPERTIES, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. THE AVERAGE AMERICAN MAKES $58,563. SO BEFORE TAXES YOUR PAYCHECK AS $28.16 AN HOUR. SO WHEN PEOPLE REALLY TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHAT REALLY IS AFFORDABLE THE ONLY THE REAL ISSUE THAT I HAVE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AND MARRIES OHIO. AS TO THE SURROUNDING SUBURBS. WE ARE AFFORDABLE BUT TO LIKE MOST SMALL TOWNS, IF YOU LIVED HERE FOR A LONG TIME, YOU'RE WATCHING THE INCREASES OF SOCIETY AND YOU'RE PAYING MORE TO LIVE LIVE HERE AND THAT'S TRUE. BUT MARYSVILLE IS SO CHEAP. ESPECIALLY IN THE UPTOWN AREA. THAT HOUSES ARE BEING DEMOLISHED FOR A VACANT LOTS.

HOMES ARE LETTING OUR BECOME ARE BECOMING SO INHABITABLE THAT THEY'RE BEING DEMOLISHED. WE ARE NOT IF MARYSVILLE HAD TRULY AN AFFORDABLE PROBLEM, YOU WOULD BE SEEN INVESTORS BUYING UP BUILDINGS IN THE UPTOWN MAKING MICRO APARTMENTS. OR ARE DENSITY IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH. FOR PEOPLE TO TRULY FIX AFFORDABILITY NEEDS. BUT IN GENERAL. ALL I'M SAYING IS DOES MAYORS WILL HAVE AFFORDABILITY PROBLEM? YES. BUT DOES AMERICA HAVE AFFORDABILITY? PROBLEM? YES. THESE ISSUES ARE SOMETIMES NOT ALWAYS ABLE TO BE SOLVED BY US. WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN BUT TO SAY THAT WE ALWAYS NEED TO BUILD HOUSES TO ALWAYS HAVE AFFORDABILITY ISSUES. MY BIGGEST CONCERN MOVING FORWARD AND IT KIND OF JUMPS. A LITTLE BIT OF GERMAN WAS SAYING IS THAT WE IN THIS COMMUNITY ARE BUILDING JOBS, AND WE DO OUR BEST TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE THIS COMMUNITY ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE. BUT MY FEAR IS THE JOBS THAT ARE LOCAL ARE LOCATING HERE FOLLOWING THE ROOFTOPS THAT WE'RE BUILDING. AND THE JOBS THAT ARE MOVING HERE ARE NOT GOING TO PAY THE INCOME TAX NEEDED TO OFFSET THE COST OF THE RESIDENT. AND THE RESIDENT IS NOW COMPLAINING THAT THEY ARE PAYING MORE HERE THAN THEY WOULD IN DUBLIN, AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND. WHY DIDN INCENTIVES ARE DUBLIN ARE GREATER THAN WHAT THEY ARE HERE. OR DUBLIN HAS A LOT MORE BIGGER INDUSTRIES THAT PAY A HIGHER TAX RATE BECAUSE OF THE JOBS THAT ARE LOCATED IN DUBLIN. SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT CONCERN ME WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AND HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENTS. SO YOU KNOW, FOR THE RECORD, I YOU KNOW, NO MATTER WHAT PEOPLE THINK I AM NOT ANTI GROWTH. I AM ANTI. I WANT TO SEE QUALITY OVER QUANTITY, AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY PASSION. AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY I RAN AND I JUST HOPE BREAKING DOWN. THESE NUMBERS HELPS PEOPLE TRULY UNDERSTAND, UM MORE INTO AFFORDABILITY THAN JUST PROMOTING THAT WE NEED MORE HOMES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR NASH THINK I SPOKE ENOUGH EARLIER SECOND THING. YEAH MR NAMES. UM, YOU

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IF AND WHEN IT PASSES TO SEE YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT A UTILITY RATE REDUCTION MAKES SENSE. BUT DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WILL BE LOOKING AT. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, MR COOPER.

THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. UM NO COMMENTS FOR THIS EVENING. OKAY, ALREADY. WELL I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT I'M EXTREMELY IMPRESSED WITH ALL THE COMMENTS THAT EVERYBODY MADE, INCLUDING BREATH COMMENTS. I MEAN IT IT IT'S WE ALL KNOW IT'S IT IS A HOT TOPIC AT THIS POINT, BUT THE THOUGHT THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN ALL ALONG BY EVERYBODY IN A STABLE MANNER. I REALLY WANT TO COMPLIMENT EVERYBODY ON EXPRESSING THEIR VIEWS. WE HATE WE HEAR IT FROM MANY DIFFERENT SITES, AND, UM, AGAIN, YOUR DUE DILIGENCE SHOULD ALL OF YOUR DUE DILIGENCE, UH, IS REALLY COMMENDABLE THAT MY OPINION THAT YOU TAKE YOUR ROLE , UM AS COUNCIL MEMBER VERY SERIOUSLY AND. AND WORKING WITH ADMINISTRATION. YOU KNOW THAT, UM IT IS A SERIOUS BUSINESS FOR US IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THE BUSINESS, BUT IT IS THE BUSINESS OF RUNNING THE CITY. SO AGAIN, MY COMPLIMENTS TO EVERYBODY. SO

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THIS TIME BEYOND ADJOURNED, THEN WILL GO

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.