[2. To hear an application for a Planned Unit Development (PUD) Sketch Plan application for a development known as Weaver Mill Farms located at 14373 Weaver Road with a Parcel number of 2900300590010.]

REVIEW FOR WE'VE HEARD MILLS FARM. AH THE AFRICAN WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 14 3 73. WE WERE ROAD WITH A PARCEL NUMBER OF 9200300. FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS WE WERE MILL FARMS. UM, DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANTS HERE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO OVER THE PROJECT

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WITH US? PLEASE ADDRESS? THANK YOU FOR HEARING THIS BARBARIC OWNER OF STOCKS, REAL ESTATE, UM PRIOR TO CREATING MY OWN COMPANY. I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN VERY STILL AND DRONE TOWNSHIPS. 15 YEARS IRAN JEROME VILLAGE FOR NATIONWIDE FROM ITS INFANCY ALL THE WAY UNTIL I TOOK EARLY RETIREMENT ABOUT A YEAR AND AFRICA SO I'VE GOT. CAN YOU TALK A LOT? I FORGOT JUST A COUPLE QUICK SLIDES HERE. YOU GUYS OBVIOUSLY GOT THE STAFF REPORT. YOU MAY HAVE TO. ANOTHER SCREEN SOMETIMES, LIKE ON OUR LAPTOP. DO YOU HAVE THEIR INTEREST RIGHT NOW? TO THE COURT HERE. AND STILL PRETEND LIKE THE TVS YOUR SECOND MONITOR. DO YOU HAVE A TOUCH SCREEN ON YOUR LAPTOP? BECAUSE OKAY, THEN CLICK AND DRAG. CLICK AND DRAG YOUR, UH TOP OF THE BAR. THAT IS MY SCREEN. LET'S SEE. CLICK AND HOLD UP HERE. THAT'S ONE WAY. THERE WE GO. HOPE THERE. OKAY, THAT'S GOOD. YEAH. GRAB IT. CLICK OVER THERE. GOING. OKAY THEY PROBABLY CAN JUST SHUT OFF ONE PAGE OR ONE. DON'T MAKE IT BIG. DON'T DO IT. DEFINITIONS. TO TRY YOU. SORRY ABOUT THIS.

WHAT MAKES YOU CAN'T JUST SHUT OFF THAT OTHER VIEW. SO OKAY, SO NOW I GOTTA FIND THIS FALL.

WE'RE GETTING THERE. REVIEWS. OKAY SO THIS IS A PIECE OF GROUND. IT'S ABOUT 101. ACTUALLY 11.7 ACRES IT'S OWNED BY THE LUTHERAN CHURCH DOWN ON WEAVER ROAD. THIS IS THE SAME PLAN THAT HE SUBMITTED, UM, THIS THIS PROJECT IS ESSENTIALLY 101 QUESTION UNDER BLOODY. WE'RE ASKING FOR 298 UNITS. THERE'S A COMBINATION. YES, I HEAR YOU. IT'S TRUE. THIS IS ON BUT I CAN SPEAK UP. SO IT'S 298 MINUTES ARE ASKING FOR THE COMPUTER TO A DENSITY ACROSS THE WHOLE PROJECT OF 2.9 UNITS PER ACRE. UM THERE'S ACTUALLY BECAUSE THIS IS A P U D. THERE ARE THREE SUB AREAS THAT WE'RE DEFINING HERE. ONE IS SUB AREA A. THAT IS OUR SINGLE FAMILY. UM TWO DIFFERENT SIDES. LOTS IN THE SINGLE FAMILY. IT'S 52 FT LOCKS AND 60 FT LOCKS. THE WIDER LAUNCHER SET UP TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE A RANCH TYPE OF A SINGLE STORY TYPE OF FACILITY ALSO NOTICE ON THE DRAWING. IF YOU CAN SEE IT THE DIFFERENT COLORS IN THE LOST SO RATHER THAN HAVE ALL OF THE LARGER LOTS IN ONE AREA, WE'VE SCATTERED THEM THROUGHOUT THE SITE. UM COMMON AREA STANDPOINT , WE'VE GOT 26.48 ACRES OR 26% OF THE TOTAL, UM, SITE PLAN ACCOMMODATED TO THE OPEN SPACE THAT DOES INCLUDE THE PONDS. WE TOOK THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. WE PUT LANDSCAPING. WE'RE GOING TO PUT BENCHES AND PUT THE TRAILS ALL THE WAY TO PONDS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SITE. YOU GOT A PART THAT WE'VE LAID OUT WHICH WILL DISCUSS HERE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME OPTIONS. WE'D LIKE TO TALK. WITH YOURSELF. THE CITY STAFF. ABOUT THE PARK. WE'D LIKE TO MAKE IT A PUBLIC PARK IF WE CAN BUT IF THAT'S NOT THE CHOICE OF THE CITY STAFF AND YOURSELF, AND WE CAN MAKE IT A PRIVATE PARK THAT THE WOULD MANAGE THERE IS A COMMUNITY CENTER ON SITE.

IT'S 2.44 ACRES THAT WILL HAVE HANDLE A PRIVATE FACILITY FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THIS PART OF THE A, UM, TO USE THAT IT WILL HAVE A POOL AND FITNESS AREA. WE ARE CONNECTING TO THE SURROUNDING AREAS TO THE NORTH TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST. THERE IS HIGHER DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SOUTH. YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OF LARGE LOT HOMES , THEIR FARMS AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES ON THE EAST SIDE OF WEAVER ROAD, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, ADDITIONAL AGRICULTURAL

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GROUND, BUT IN YOUR COMPLAINT THAT IS ACTUALLY ZONED FOR LIGHT MANUFACTURING AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. SO UM, IN THE FUTURE , OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S A BIG THAT'S A BIG DEMAND UP HERE IN MARYSVILLE GROUND IN BETWEEN THERE AND THE RAILROAD TRACK. ULTIMATELY IS EARMARKED FOR THAT PER THE COMPLAINT. WE DO CONNECT THE TRAILS TO THE NORTH INTO THE EXISTING COMMUNITY. WE BRING THOSE THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY AND WE TAKE THEM OUT, THE WEAVER WROTE. WE ALSO THEM AROUND THE SOUTHERN PONDS IN THE PROJECT, UM, IN AS YOU'LL NOTICE HERE. ON THE NEXT FROM AN ACCESS AND CONNECTIVITY STANDPOINT, OUR MAIN ACCESS POINT IS AWFUL. WEAVER ROAD. UM THAT'S THE PRIMARY ACCESS POINT COMING IN. THERE WERE TWO STUB ROADS INTO THE COMMUNITY TO THE NORTH.

THAT'S BUCK MEYER AND WE HAVE A RIDGE DRIVE. WE WILL BE CONNECTING TO THOSE TWO AND THEN BECAUSE OF THE CONTINUATION OF DEVELOPMENT, ETCETERA. UM MARYSVILLE RECOMMENDS IT BUT WE ALSO SUPPORT IT. WE WILL PUT A STUB ROAD ON THE WEST SIDE TO CONNECT INTO THAT FUTURE GROUND , AND WE ALSO PUT ONE TO THE SOUTH AND THAT ALLOWS FOR WEAVER ROAD IN THE MAN MAIN ACCESS POINTS TO HAVE FEWER POINTS OF CONTACT, AS MOST DEVELOPMENT NEEDS AT LEAST TWO OR THREE, SO THIS WILL START OFF WITH THREE ACCESS POINTS, BUT ULTIMATELY IT COULD TURN INTO FIVE ACCESS POINTS TO GET IN AND OUT OF THIS 101.7 ACRE PARCEL. UM THE OTHER PIECE IS LIKE I SAID, WE ARE PUTTING IN THE MULTIPURPOSE TRAILS. THERE'S A YELLOW DOT IT GOES FROM WEAVER RIDGE COMES DOWN INTO THE COMMUNITY. WE PICKED THAT UP. WE TAKE IT OUT THE WEAVER ROAD THROUGH THE PARK. MY. SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T SHOW THE SPRINGS. UM THE PARK FACILITY THAT IS TO THE EAST AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, WE DO HAVE ACCESS TO UTILIZE ALL THE COMMON AREA AROUND THE PONDS AS AN AMENITY, SO THOSE COMMON AREAS ARE INCLUDED IN OUR OR OPEN SPACE CALCULATION. UM FROM THE STANDPOINT WITH THE PUY DE WE HAVE DONE A T S A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT IS IN THE HANDS OF THE MARYSVILLE ENGINEER RIGHT NOW. WITH THEM. WE WILL ABIDE WITH WHATEVER IMPROVEMENTS THAT THAT TRAFFIC STUDY SAYS. WE DO KNOW THAT WE EXPECTED TO REQUIRE INTERNALLY IN THERE. THE DEVELOPER WILL TAKE CARE OF THOSE COSTS, ETCETERA, AND THE OTHER PIECE RELATED TO THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS THANK YOU GUYS KNOW PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY WILL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION IF IT'S NOT ALREADY SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED LATER THIS YEAR. SO THAT'S A PIECE THAT WILL HELP RELIEVE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED ON WEAVER. UM I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD A LOT OF DEMAND FOR THIS TYPE OF HOUSING. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO GO INTO THAT THERE IS A PROSPERITY SERIES THAT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, THEY'VE SET UP 12 MONTHLY MEETINGS TO TALK ABOUT THE NEEDS FOR BUSINESS HOUSING. AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS I DO.

PRESENTATIONS WERE ACTUALLY ON THE AGENDA IN, UM IN JUNE, BUT IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH MORRISSEY, THEY'RE PROJECTING A MILLION NEW PEOPLE IN CENTRAL OHIO. MARYSVILLE IS GOING TO GET MORE THAN THEIR FAIR SHARE BECAUSE OF SOME OF YOUR BUSINESSES LIKE HONDA, EXPANDING THE INNOVATION PARKWAY AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU GUYS PUT IN PLACE UP HERE. SO WITH THOSE BUSINESSES BECOME HOUSING, AND YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN A B I MEMBER FOR NINE OR TRUSTEE FOR NINE YEARS AND A MEMBER FOR ABOUT 18 YEARS. UM THE BUILDERS IN CENTRAL HOW HAVE NOT DONE A GOOD JOB KEEPING UP WITH DEMAND. LAST YEAR, WE DID 12,000 UNITS AND THAT IS SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTI FAMILY. THE DEMAND FOR THE ADDITIONAL MILLION PEOPLE AND THAT ADDITIONAL MILLION PEOPLE OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS STARTED ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO. UM INTEL IS GOING TO BE PART OF THAT, BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE GROWTH THAN JUST THE ONES THAT YOU HEAR IN THE NEWS, BUT FROM THAT STANDPOINT, WE SHOULD BE IN CENTRAL HIGHER PRODUCING ABOUT 19,000 HOMES. AND FOR THE LAST 4 TO 5 YEARS WE HAVE PRODUCED SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 22,000. IT'S KIND OF THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.

BUT WHAT THAT WHAT THAT HAS CAUSED. THIS CAUSED A DEFICIT IN THE HOME MARKET OF ABOUT 25,000 UNITS AS WE STAND TODAY, UM AND WE ARE NOT PRODUCING AT THE 19,000 UNIT LEVEL MOVING FORWARD RIGHT NOW. LIKE, LIKE I SAID LAST YEAR, WE DID 12,000 UNITS, SO WE FELT 7000 BEHIND, SO THIS IS JUST A SIMPLE SUPPLY AND DEMAND ISSUE WITH CENTRAL OHIO. AND IT IS AT A CRISIS LEVEL. SO THESE 298 LOTS HELPED TO ADDRESS THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT DOESN'T HELP TO MAKE UP FOR ANY OF THE DIFFERENCE. UM I GREW UP IN THE EIGHTIES, SO SUPPLYING DEMAND REAGANOMICS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS IS KIND OF WHAT? I WAS TRAINED AT INO SHOE. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, IT IS SIMPLE SUPPLY SIDE THAT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM. IT'S NOT JUST WITH NEW HOMES. IT'S ALSO WITH EXISTING HOMES. THE PRICE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN NEW HOMES AND IN MARYSVILLE AND. EXISTING HOMES IS ABOUT 38% AND THAT'S A PRETTY BIG GAP, CONSIDERING THE NEW HOME AVERAGE AND IN

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MARYSVILLE IS ABOUT 418,000. NOW IN UNION COUNTY. THE NEW HOME AVERAGES 600,000. BUT THAT IS REALLY KIND OF SKEWED A LITTLE BIT FOR WHAT JEROME VILLAGES IN THE 2000 HOUSES THAT THAT THEY'VE DEVELOPED DOWN THERE. BUT FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THAT 38% DIFFERENCE, UM OBVIOUSLY, NEW HOMES ARE MORE AFFORDABLE, BUT I WOULDN'T SAY THEY'RE REALLY AFFORDABLE. UM CONSIDERING THAT 418 NEW HOME PRICE, AND THIS WAS JUST, UH SUPPLIED AND PROVIDED AT THE LAST PROSPERITY MEETING BY THE B I A ONLY 12.5% OF THE RESIDENTS OF UNION COUNTY CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD A NEW HOME AT THAT. $418,000 PRICE POINT. EXISTING HOMES. THERE'S ABOUT 68% OF THE EXISTING HOMES THAT KIND OF FORD OR EXISTING RESIDENTS THAT CAN AFFORD AN EXISTING HOUSE. BUT GO TRY TO FIND ONE OF THOSE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND IS SO UPSIDE DOWN. RIGHT NOW, THERE'S LITERALLY ONLY 12 OR 20. NEW LISTINGS ARE EXISTING LISTINGS ON THE MLS IN THE MARYSVILLE AREA. SO IT'S HARD TO FIND THEM. SO FROM THE STANDPOINT TALKING ABOUT THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL LOTS IN THE ADDITIONAL HOUSES. MARYSVILLE WAS AGAIN THEY'RE OUTPERFORMING OTHER AREAS IN THIS REGION. UNION COUNTY IS THE SECOND HIGHEST GROWING COUNTY IN CENTRAL HIGH. OH AND IN THE STATE OF DELAWARE, IS NUMBER ONE UNION COUNTIES NUMBER TWO AND AS DELAWARE STARTS TO SLOW DOWN BECAUSE IT'S GETTING DEVELOPED OUT, AND UTILITIES ARE BECOMING AN ISSUE, THEIR UNION COUNTY IS REALLY POISED TO TAKE OVER THAT GROWTH AREA. SO THAT'S SOME OF THE NEEDS FOR THIS PRODUCT AS WE GO THROUGH, UM THE OTHER PIECE THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. IS THIS PARK. UH WE'RE WILLING TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO IT. UM AND WHAT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE , WE DON'T SAY FOR THE SKETCH PLAN ONLY TO SHOW THIS SUB AREA WE ARE SHOWING THAT IN THE STAFF REPORTED, DID SAY IN THERE THAT THE CITY DID NOT WANT THIS PARK. UM I'D LIKE TO BRING THAT UP WITH YOURSELVES. I WANT TO TALK TO STAFF AND I WILL TALK TO, UH, OBVIOUSLY, SOME OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, ETCETERA. BUT WE'RE WILLING TO PUT A PICKLE BALL COURT IN OR PICKLEBALL FACILITY AND BASKETBALL COURTS, OR MAYBE A PLAYGROUND IN THOSE SORT OF THINGS WERE WILLING TO MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT TO THIS TO MAKE IT AN AMENITY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MARYSVILLE DOWN WEAVER ROAD. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PARKS DOWN THERE. UM, SO WE'RE WILLING TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS. OUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT ULTIMATELY WHEN WE PUT IT IN THAT THE CITY WOULD MAINTAIN IT. IF THAT WAS THE CASE, WE WOULD ADD AN ACCESS POINT FOR THE SMALL FOUR POINT FIVE ACRE PARK OFF OF WEAVER ROAD. WE PUT A SMALL PARKING LOT THERE, PUT THE AMENITIES AND THEN JUST CONNECT TO OUR DEVELOPMENT IN THE BACK THROUGH THE BIKE TRAIL , SO THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY VEHICLE ACCESS COMING THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT WOULD BE MORE OPEN TO ALL THE RESIDENTS OF MARYSVILLE. NOW IF THAT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING THAT MARYSVILLE WANTS TO CONSIDER THEN WE'RE OKAY. DOING THAT. WE WILL STILL PROBABLY PUT SOME ADDITIONAL AMENITIES ON THAT PARK. BUT THEN IT WOULD BE MAINTAINED LIKE ANY OTHER PARK WITHIN A SUBDIVISION MAINTAINED BY THE HOA OR THE MASTER ASSOCIATION AND GO THROUGH THAT, SO THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO ADDRESS RIGHT NOW. BUT AS WE COME BACK THROUGH DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND PRELIMINARY PLATINUM SORT OF THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO IRON THIS OUT IN OPEN THAT UP FOR MARYSVILLE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS ON. WHAT TYPE OF A NEED THAT YOU HAVE FROM A PARK STANDPOINT? AND JUST ON THAT POINT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I MEAN, WHILE WE ARE APPOINTED BY THE CITY, YOU KNOW I THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF ON WE CAN GIVE OUR OPINIONS WHAT THEY ARE JUST OPINIONS, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT ULTIMATELY IT WILL BE IN CITIES TO CITY. IT'S THE DECISION AS A CORRECTION COUNSELOR DECISION THAT COUNCIL AGAIN WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF AND WE'RE OPEN TO RESIDENTS INPUT AS WELL AS WE KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS THIS PROCESS. NICE GOOD QUESTION. WHAT'S DRIVING THAT PARK? WHY ARE YOU PROVIDING ALMOST FIVE ACRES OF PARKLAND PROPOSING? THERE'S A COUPLE REASONS ONE WE WANNA INCLUDE IS OPEN SPACE. SO THE REQUIREMENT ON THE COMPLAINT FOR THIS BEAUTY AS A 10% OPEN SPACE, SO THERE IS GREAT EFFICIENCY AND VALUE IN HAVING SMALLER LOTS. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THIS MARKET IS, AND I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE MILLENNIAL GROUP AND I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR TWO OF THEM SO, BUT THAT MILLENNIAL GROUP FOR 567 YEARS. THEY CAME OUT OF THE ISSUE IN THOSE SORT OF THINGS AND THEY WENT INTO APARTMENTS AND THEY'VE BEEN DOWNTOWN APARTMENTS AND 800 SQUARE FOOT FOR YEARS AND NATIONWIDE. WE BUILT THE AREAS WE BUILT GRAVEYARD AT THE SAME TIME I WAS BUILDING JEROME VILLAGE, AND THAT GROUP OF RESIDENTS DID NOT COME OUT OF THE APARTMENT IS STARTED. 3456 THEY WERE THERE FOR 78. THEY WERE GETTING INTO THEIR TWENTIES, LATE TWENTIES AND EARLY THIRTIES, AND THEY HADN'T MOVED OUT. SO THEY'RE USED TO 800 SQUARE FOOT, MAYBE 1000, BUT THEY'RE PAYING $2 A SQUARE FOOT. SO THEY'RE PAYING $2000. THEY JUST CHOSE TO LIVE THAT WAY. NOW FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. PROCREATION BEING ONE OF THEM. THEY ARE NOW COMING OUT

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TO THE SUBURBS AND TO MARYSVILLE AND LOOKING FOR OTHER PLACES. WHERE DO THEY WANT TO RAISE THEIR KIDS? WHAT'S THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS AND AS THEY COME OUT, THEY'RE MOVING OUT OF 800 TO 1000 SQUARE FOOT SPACE, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO MOVE INTO THEIR PARENTS' HOUSES. 7000 SQUARE FOOT. THEY DON'T KNOW MY SON. I DON'T THINK IT'S EVER MOWED MY YARD IN MY LIFE AND HE'S 31. BUT SO THEY WANT TO MOVE INTO SMALLER HOUSES. UM 18 TO 2500 SQUARE FOOT. THAT'S ALMOST THREE TIMES 2 TO 3 TIMES WHAT THEY'RE USED TO. UM USED TO HAVING A VALUE THEIR TIME SO THEY DON'T LOOK TO MAINTAIN AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS BUT, UM, THE OPEN SPACE THAT WE'RE GIVING HERE. THE 26% YES, WE COULD PUT THE COMPLAINT SAYS 3 TO 6 UNITS FOR THIS, WE COULD PUT MORE LOTS BUT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE COMMUNITY, YOU WANT THAT OPEN SPACE. THEY WANT THE CONNECTIVITY. THEY WANT THE ABILITY TO WALK THEIR DOGS. THEY WANT THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. THE 52 60 FT LOTS BRINGS THE DENSITY TOGETHER, WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE THAT CONNECTED OPEN SPACE THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, WE'VE WRAPPED IT MOSTLY TO THE SOUTH. IN THAT DECISION. TO KIND OF PUT IT ON THE SOUTH IS BECAUSE THERE IS SOME UNDEVELOPED LAND DOWN THERE. THAT'S WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP, ETCETERA. SO WE BUFFERED THAT WHERE THE AREAS NOW THERE'S THIS THING CALLED NIMBY, NOT IN MY BACKYARD THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN THE NEW COMMUNITIES MIGHT NOT WANT LOTS BEHIND THEIR HOUSE WHERE THEY'VE LOOKED ACROSS THE FIELD, BUT THAT IS AN AREA THAT THEY ARE NEW. OBVIOUSLY THE TOWNSHIP RESIDENTS IN THE FARMS THIS DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS THEM A LOT MORE. THEY'VE USUALLY BEEN THERE A LOT LONGER , SO WE HAVE CONCENTRATED A LOT OF THE BUFFER TO THE SOUTH. BUT THE PARK IS JUST PART OF THE COMMON AREA. WE PUT IT OUT ON WEAVER ROAD BECAUSE THERE IS TRYING TO WORK AROUND THE EXISTING HOUSES. THAT KIND OF ARE STRADDLED THERE WITH THIS. WE DECIDED TO PUT THE OPEN SPACE OUT THERE. WE COULD EASILY HAVE TUCKED IT IN THE BACK AND SHIFTED AROUND. PLUS WEAVER ROAD IS THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE. YOU LIKE HOUSES TO BE AS FAR OFF AS POSSIBLE POSSIBLE. UM, BUT THERE ISN'T ANYTHING OTHER THAN IT'S PART OF THE CULINARY THAT GETS US TO THE 26 ACRES. WE TALKED TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER. I HAVE KNOWN SO OBVIOUSLY WITH THIS THEY'VE GOT NOTIFICATION. I WILL GO DEPENDING ON HOW TONIGHT GOES, I WILL GO AND MAKE AN OFFER TO MEET WITH ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE SURROUNDED. I START WITH THE LIST THAT WE PROVIDED TO THE CITY OF ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN CONTACT AND WITHIN A COUPLE 100 FT, BUT I DO THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WHEN IT COMES TO RESIDENTS, AND I'M WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND MEET WITH THEM. AND TO GET THEIR INPUT IN BETWEEN SKETCH PLAN AND PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. MHM ALONG THOSE LINES. I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE , UM, BUFFER ZONES BETWEEN YOU KNOW THE PRESIDENT'S ARE LIVING ON AN ACRE OR, YOU KNOW THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE FOUR HOUSES PER ACRE OR MORE. UM SO IT'S WE USUALLY TRY TO PROVIDE LANDSCAPING OR SOME SORT OF BUFFER TEXTURES. TRY TO KEEP THE SEPARATE, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP THEM IN MIND WHEN YOU SEE HERE IS JUST A PRELIMINARY UNDERSTANDING IN THE AREAS THAT WE WANTED TO STRESS THAT THE LINK ESCAPING. OBVIOUSLY, THE ENTRANCE IN WE ELIMINATED A LOT OF THE HOUSES.

WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING HAVING HOUSES ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT DRIVE, BUT INSTEAD WE PUT WE PUT SOME MOUNTING. WE'LL PUT SOME LANDSCAPING AT STAFF REQUESTS. WE WANTED THE PONDS TO COUNT TOWARDS THE COMMON AREA, SO WE PUT BENCHES AND WE'RE SHOWING A LITTLE BIT OF LANDSCAPING. THAT WILL BE. OBVIOUSLY THERE'LL BE STREET TREES HERE. THAT'S IN OUR DEVELOPMENT TEXT THAT WE WROTE THAT WILL PUT THE STREET TREES IN. THE PARK WILL NOT JUST BE A CORNFIELD. MAJORITY OF THIS IS CORNFIELD SO THERE WILL BE TREES AND THERE'LL BE SOMETHING THERE. BUT WE'VE LEFT THAT OUT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE FOCUSED MORE ON THE AMENITY AND THE ACTUAL OWNERSHIP AND WHO WANTS TO MAINTAIN IT WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE. UM, SO WITH THAT THAT'S KIND OF THE GENERAL. IT'S PRETTY PRETTY OPEN. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF POCKET PARKS IN THERE. ALL OF THE SIDEWALKS WILL BE THEIR CONNECTION AND EVERYTHING TO MAKE THOSE USABLE AS WE GO THROUGH. SO WITH THAT, IF YOU ENTERTAIN ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE OR OR PUBLIC HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. IS THERE ANY PLANS TO CONNECT A BIKE TRAIL OR ANYTHING IN THIS AREA? ALONG WEAVER. CORRECT YEAH , LET ME THINK HERE WE HAD, UM I THINK WE DO HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT YEAH. GO AHEAD PLAN PLAN TO TALK ABOUT THE CONNECTIVITY, ET CETERA. SO THEY ARE RECOMMENDING IT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS IN ADDITION TO THE TRAILS THAT WE WERE SHOWING THEY WOULD LIKE US TO ENCOMPASS THE AND THAT'S JUST SO WE CAN CANADA'S COMMON AREAS WHICH PERFECTLY FINE WITH THAT THEY DID RECOMMEND PUTTING THE BIKE TRAIL. IF I CAN MOVE THIS BIKE TRAIL ALONG THE ROAD RIGHT HERE IN THE FRONT AND ACROSS THIS PIECE, UM, THAT PEOPLE WILL TELL YOU THE TRUTH, WE WILL DO IT IF IT'S FORCED, BUT IN THE RESPONSE TO STAFF, I DID WRITE IT UP AS A REQUEST FOR A DIVERGENCE BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS, YOU KNOW YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHEN THE FAMILIES UP HERE WHEN THIS FAMILY OR WHEN THIS WILL BE

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DEVELOPED. SO THAT YEAH, OKAY. THAT TRAIL COULD GO IN AND NEVER BE CON TO ANYTHING. IT'S COSTLY. WE'VE GOT 0.25 MILES WORTH OF TRAILS HERE, AND YOU KNOW WHETHER IT'S SAFER OR NOT TO BRING CONNECTIVITY THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS VERSUS DOWN WEAVER ROAD, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE'RE ASKING FOR DIVERGENCE ON THAT ONE ISSUE. THAT'S THE ONLY DIVERSIONS THAT I COULD IDENTIFY. WE'LL PUT IT IN. IF YOU'RE IF YOU WANTED TO BE, I WOULD RATHER P AN IMPACT FOR YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO MARYSVILLE. FOR YOU TO HAVE THE MONEY NOW BE LIKE SO SECURITY.

YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP THAT MONEY, YOU KNOW, TELL SOMEBODY ELSE NEEDS IT. BUT I WOULD RATHER DO THAT THAN PUT IN A TRAIL THAT'S GOING TO BE NEED TO BE MAINTAINED FOR 567 YEARS. I MEAN , EVERY 5 TO 6 YEARS YOU'VE GOTTA YOU'VE GOTTA COVER AN ASPHALT TRAIL AND DO MAINTENANCE, ETCETERA, AND IT JUST GOES TO NOWHERE. SO UM, WE'RE OPEN TO THAT ISSUE, BUT THE THIRD PLAYER PLAN DOES IT'S TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH A TRAIL THE WAY DOWN. YEAH I MEAN, GENERALLY , I'M IN FAVOR OF PUTTING IN. I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN FUTURE, UM WEAVER RIDGE. NORTH OF YOU HAS THAT TRAIL ALONG WEAVER ADINA POINT DOESN'T SO. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL EVER PUT ONE IN TO EVENTUALLY GET THERE. BUT I STOPPED. I'M IN FAVOR OF PUTTING IN BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, SO WE WILL DO THAT. I MEAN, THAT ONE DIVERGENCE IS JUST SOMETHING WE WROTE UP AND STAY JUST LIKE WE DID. AND IF IT'S SOMETHING, YOU GUYS SO. WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO PUTTING A BIKE TRAIL THROUGH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE PONDS AND JUST KIND OF THAT BEING THE FOCAL POINT, WHEREAS IF IT WOULD EXPAND IN THE FUTURE THEY COULD TIE IN THROUGH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD . WE HAVE THE TRIO. I KNOW IT'S YELLOW. OKAY IT GOES COMPLETELY AROUND THIS POND. SO IT IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS. AND IF SOMEBODY WERE DEVELOPED TO THE SOUTH, WE COULD CONNECT IT. THIS POND IS ACTUALLY ENCASED AS WELL. AND WE HAVE ANOTHER TRAILER COMES DOWN HERE, SO WE HAVE TWO POINTS TO GET TO WORK WILL BE THE DROUGHT TRICK FUTURE. UH SO ARE YOU RECOMMENDING BACK HERE? NO I THINK I DIDN'T. I COULDN'T SEE IT SHOULD USE THE DIFFERENT COLOR. THEY'RE IN THERE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ELECTRONIC COPY , YOU CAN REALLY SEE THE YELLOW AND YOU KNOW WE DIDN'T WANT TO CONNECT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD NECESSARILY, BUT WE NEED TO PICK UP THIS ROAD. FOR THIS TRIP HERE WE BRING IT THROUGH AND WE GET IT IN THE PARK AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. BUT WE DO WE LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE MORE THAN 1.25 MILES WORTH OF. MORE FOCUS TRAILS WITH WHICH WILL BE FURTHER CITY, SPEC SAYS. HE NOTED THAT THEY NEED TO BE 10 FT. AND WE WILL DO IN PURPOSE BACK. DESIGN ALREADY. SO HOT ON THIS PLAN, UM, ALONG THE NORTH EDGE OF THE PUBLIC PARK GIVE A PROPOSED FENCING ALONG PROPERTY LINE WORLD IS THAT FENCING GOING TO BE? IS IT JUST THAT PART OF THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH, SO WE WILL BRING THE FENCE DOWN HERE? UM WE WOULD PREFER TO TERMINATED SOME HERE. WE'D RATHER NOT RUN THE WHOLE THING BUT RECOGNIZING THEIR RESIDENTS, THAT'S THAT ARE HERE. TO HERE. WE WERE GOING TO BRING THE FENCE ALONG THIS BORDER, AND WE'RE GOING TO, BRING IN OUR TEXT. WE WROTE THAT UP. THAT CAN BE I PREFER WOOD FENCE, BUT IT COULD ALSO BE A VINYL FENCE. IT WOULD NOT BE CHAIN LINK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. FROM THE BOARD. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE COMMENT. I DO LIKE THE FACT THAT THE LAYOUT GIVES FLEXIBILITY IN THE FUTURE FOR EXPANSION AND THAT WE ONLY HAVE ONE CALLED A SACK. I NOTICED THAT TOO. SO YOU YOU HAVE A HEART FOR SNOW CLUB PEOPLE. I DO NOT LIKE COLDER SACKS JUST SO YEAH. MR CHECK QUESTION. QUESTION FOR CITY STAFF. PERHAPS SO THE LOT WIDTHS ARE 52 DO WE HAVE OTHER DO WE HAVE GENERAL REQUIREMENTS AND THEN ALSO? FURTHERMORE, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR LOT WIDTHS. AND DO WE HAVE OTHER P U. D S OR OTHER AREAS WHERE WE'VE BUILT 52? FOOT WITH LOTS IN NEIGHBORHOODS. AND CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME EXAMPLES? I'M THINKING, MAYBE OVER AT THE ONE ACROSS FROM BONES. WELL, THE FISHER I THINK THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME FIFTIES AND THERE I'LL HAVE TO PULL UP THAT DEVELOPMENT TEXT TO LOOK AND THIS. OH, THEY'RE NOT DOING STREET ZONING. THEY'RE DOING A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT SO THEY CAN SPECIFY WHATEVER THAT PREFERENCE OF THEIR LOT WITH IS, UM, WITHOUT BEING KIND OF RESTRICTED BY THE ZONING CODE LOT WIDTH REQUIREMENT. I JUST WANTED TO DO WE HAVE ANY OTHERS THAT ARE USING THAT LESS THAN THE 55 SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL 55. YES OKAY. SO THAT'S IF YOU DID

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STREET ZONING. YEAH AND CHESTNUT CROSSING, I BELIEVE IS LESS THAN OR AROUND THE 50 LET ME LET ME PULL UP A MAP AND SEE IF I CAN POINT THAT YOU WENT TO 52 FOR LOGICAL STILL HAVE THE FIVE YARDS SIDE YARD SETBACK THAT SETBACKS TO LESS THAN FIVE FT. SO YOUR POINT THERE IS THAT YOU WOULDN'T ACTUALLY BUILD CLOSER TO THE LOT BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH BEING LESS THAN 55. ESSENTIALLY A HOMEBUILDER WOULD LOOK AT THE LOT AS TO THE BUILDING ENVELOPE . WHAT IS YOUR FRONT SETBACK? YOUR REAR SETBACK AND YOUR SIDE SETBACKS CAREER SETBACKS, USUALLY NOT IN PLAY BECAUSE IT'S SO FAR BACK, BUT YOU'RE BUILDING ENVELOPE IS REALLY CREATED BY YOUR SIDE GUARD SETBACKS AND IN CENTRAL OHIO. WE ARE THE SIDE GARDEN SIDE GUARD CAPITAL OF THE WORLD. WE EXTEND SIDE YARDS A LOT IN WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PECANS PRODUCT IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR HOW THEY CREATE THE COVE, AND THEY PUT THEIR OUTDOOR LIVING SPACE IN BETWEEN UNITS BY DOING THAT, NOW THEY HAVE A ZERO LOT LINE ON ONE SIDE OF THAT. WE REALLY ONLY PLANT SOME VERY UH, SPIRIT, SPORADIC LANDSCAPING. WE MOW IT AND FOR THE MOST PART IN BETWEEN THOSE HOUSES, IT'S NOT REALLY UTILIZED. THE SMALLER SETBACKS HAVE DEEPER LOTS AND LOTS OF 125 FT. ALLOW YOU TO HAVE DEEPER LOTS OR ADDITIONAL COMMON AREA WHEN YOU REDUCE THOSE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. WE'RE TRYING TO GROUP. WE'RE DEALING WITH A CORN FIELD HERE. WE'RE TRYING TO GROUP THE UNITS AS CLOSELY TOGETHER TO GIVE MORE COMMON SPACE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO THROW A BASEBALL WITH YOUR SON ON YOUR SIDE YARD, MAYBE IN THE BACKYARD UNTIL THEY'RE ABOUT FIVE OR SIX. AND THEN YOU GOT TO GO TO THE PARK TO GO FIND A BIGGER AREA, SO IT IS DESIGNED TO CREATE THE DENSITY WITHIN THE CORNFIELDS AND ALLOW MORE USABLE OPEN SPACE WITH THE SMALLER LOT. AND A DRONE VILLAGE. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR. THERE ARE SMALL, SLOTTED DRONE VILLAGES, ACTUALLY 50 FT, SO WE HAVE 50 FT . PROPER PRONOUNS ARE OFF 36 YEARS WITH NATIONWIDE. I STILL SAY WE A LOT AND I'VE BEEN GOING FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. SOME POINT THAT WILL STOP IT. THEY'VE GOT PRODUCT 55 FT PRODUCT AND 60 FT. PRODUCT DOWN THERE ON THE YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY, LOWER END BECAUSE THOSE HOUSES ARE $450,000. SO. AND WE THINK THE VALUE OF THESE HOUSES WILL BE SOMEWHERE IN THAT 3 75 TO 4 25 RANGE AS WELL, EVEN THOUGH SMALLER LOTS MILLENNIALS. I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING FOR 78 YEARS THEY'VE BEEN PAYING $2 A SQUARE FOOT FOR RENT AND APARTMENTS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS WHEN THEY COME OUT, AND THEY LOOK FOR UNITS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS 18 TO 2500 SQUARE FOOT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, AND THAT'S EXACTLY THE TARGET MARKET THAT WE'RE AIMING FOR HERE. OH, GOD, I THINK I WAS GOING TO WORK A LITTLE BIT TO GO AHEAD. SO THE DEVELOPMENT JUST NORTH OF, UM WE CAN PULL IT UP ON THE SCREEN HERE. JUST NORTH IS THAT GOES THROUGH KIND OF PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY. THOSE ARE 40 FT LOTS. UM SO THAT WAS A RYAN HOME DEVELOPMENT DONE, AND I THINK IT WAS APPROVED IN 2019. GOING INTO 2020. CHEST PASS. IT WAS CHESTNUT CROSSING WHEN IT GOT APPROVED, BUT I THINK THE NAME HAS BEEN CHANGED SINCE THEN. GOOD THINGS SMALLER LAST DOES. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE FOCUS ON JUST LARGER LOTS BECAUSE IT'S A TRADITION BUT THE OTHER PIECES WE BREAK DOWN AFFORDABILITY IN THE HOUSING MARKET. OBVIOUSLY IT'S A MARYSVILLE CONCERNED EVERYTHING ELSE YOU'VE GOTTA REALIZE IF YOU TAKE THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS AND REDUCING OR INCREASING FROM FIVE FT. 10 FT. YOU GET 20 YARDS OR 20 FT ON EACH SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

BUT YOU JUST EXTENDED THE ROAD, THE CURBS THE SIDEWALK, THE WATER LINES, SEWER LINES AND ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED TO BUILD THAT HOUSE AND SO FROM A LINEAR COST STANDPOINT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU'VE JUST INCREASED IN INCREASE THAT QUITE A BIT. UM, WHEN YOU GO TO LIGHT OR LOT IF YOU NEED WATER LOTS TO BUILD A HOUSE THAT HAS A 60 FT. OR 70 FT FOOTPRINT THEN THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE BIGGER LOTS. BUT FOR THE MOST PART 18 TO 2500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE TWO STORY OR RANCH. THE RANCH IS WHY WE HAVE 60 FT LOCKS AND PENSIONS IN THEIR ETCETERA. THAT ALLOWS YOU TO REDUCE THE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS AND ACTUALLY ALLOWS IT TO BE MORE AFFORDABLE. NO. WHEN I SAY AFFORDABLE, LESS EXPENSIVE, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR SOMETHING. WHICH WAS GONNA LEAVE IN MY QUESTION. I'M SORRY, SCOTT, IF I INTERRUPTED YOU IN A SECOND, SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE VALUE. SO ARE THESE OWNER OCCUPIED BUILDINGS? THESE WERE NOT SO I AM I AM IN CONTRACT WITH AN ASSIGNMENT THROUGH LUTHER CHURCH. SO YOUR OWN VILLAGE I DO THE SAME THING

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NOW THAT I DID A DRAMA I HAD TO 18 DIFFERENT BUILDERS THAT WE WORKED WITH DOWN THERE BECAUSE NATIONWIDE REZONED WE DEVELOPED. WE BROUGHT THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE DIDN'T PLAN. AND THEN WE CAME IN, AND WE WENT SELECTED WHAT BUILDERS BASED ON PRODUCT AND YOU GET A LITTLE BIT DIVERSE. SO IN THIS CASE, IT IS AMERICAN HOPES THAT IS THE BUILDER THAT IS IN CONTRACT FOR THESE LOTS EVERY DAY. IT'S AMERICAN HOMES WORKING. WORKING WITH LUTHERAN CHURCH AND THEY ARE THE BUILDER THAT WOULD BE IN CONTRACT FOR THE LOTS. YEAH. I JUST LIKE TO MAKE NOTE ALSO THAT YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR CHECKLIST AND THE FOR THE P U D DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL. SO WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THIS, MAKE SURE YOU CONSIDER THOSE ITEMS AND WHETHER SOMETHING IS OWNER OCCUPIED OR NOT. OWNER OCCUPIED IS NOT PART OF THAT CHECKLIST APPLICATION, SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. HMM BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION. SO, UM, BECAUSE I HAVE QUESTIONS. WELL HE WELL, IT'S NOT CITIZEN COMMENTS RIGHT NOW IS NOT CITIZEN COMMENTS. SO IT RENTAL.

THEY WILL BE RENTALS, AT LEAST WITH THE BUILDER THAT I AM A CONTRACT WITH HER AT THIS POINT IN TIME, SO THESE EASILY COULD BE FOR SALE AS WELL. BUT RIGHT NOW, THE CONTRACT THAT I HAVE DOING WHAT I DO FROM THE ENTIRE MEANT ALL THAT STANDPOINT IS FOR AMERICAN HOMES. CAN I ASK A QUESTION AMERICAN WAS DONE. I'M SORRY. I INTERRUPTED. YOU KNOW IF SO THAT WAS THE ONE EXAMPLE YOU GET IT WAS THERE ANY OTHERS THAT CAME TO MIND? JUST I KNOW I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT BUT LOOKING AT THE FISHER DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED, SO LET ME LET ME CHECK ON THAT QUESTION. BUT PEOPLE. YOUR CODE ALLOWED IN SOME AREAS. 45 FT LOT TO EXIST. NOW THAT'S MM HMM.

SMALLER ON 45. FT LOT, GIVEN FIVE FT. NOW YOU'RE INTO A 30 OR A 35 FT BUILDING WITH MHM GUARDS AND EVERYTHING AT THAT POINT IN TIME IF YOU'VE GOT TWO CAR GARAGE, WHICH WILL BE TWO WRITERS, YOU HAVE 16 FT GARAGE. MHM HANGOVER. YOU'VE GOT THE DOOR AND YOU HAVE ONE WINDOW, SO IT IS A VERY THIN BUILDING. BUT THAT'S NOT A 52 FT LODGE. YOU CAN HAVE THE FRONT DOOR WITH TWO WINDOWS, SET THE WINDOWS UPSTAIRS AND ACTUALLY HAVE SOME. AH, OKAY? SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE ARE THE TWO STORIES THAT ARE ABLE TO FIT. NO, HERE'S THE HANDS DOWN HERE IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER THAT WOULD THAT WOULD TRIP ON THE 60 FT LOT, AND THERE ARE SOME BUMP OUTS AND SOME OTHER THINGS ARE AVAILABLE. THESE ARE SLAB HOUSES DONE. YES. AND FROM AFFORDABILITY. THAT'S ANOTHER. THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE. BUT A DIFFERENT QUESTION OR PROBABLY TRIED TO. MY QUESTION IS THE SAME IF YOU ANTICIPATED, HAVE BASEMENTS OR CRAWLS. UM I DON'T THINK RIGHT NOW THAT THERE WOULD BE BASEMENTS. THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO DO THAT. UM BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WITH THE TARGET MARKET THAT THIS OBVIOUSLY THE MILLENNIALS, THE FAMILIES AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS, THE ONE THING THAT YOU'RE UP AGAINST RIGHT NOW IN MARYSVILLE. UM AND ALSO HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH ROCKFORD DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE DEVELOPING THE TWIG SITE FOR APARTMENTS. WE BROUGHT THAT THROUGH LAST YEAR. UM, AND ALL OF OUR APARTMENTS ARE EITHER ONE OR TWO BEDROOM UNITS. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FAMILIES NEEDING, UM UNITS IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD AN EXISTING FOR SALE HOUSE AND THEY CAN'T FIND AN EXISTING FOR SALE HOUSE.

THEIR OPTIONS ARE APARTMENTS BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE APARTMENTS AND I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG HERE BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT MARKETS, ETCETERA, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE APARTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN MARYSVILLE WHICH WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL THAT THE APARTMENTS ARE THERE, MARYSVILLE WENT THROUGH ABOUT A 15 YEAR PERIOD OF TIME, WITH NO MULTI FAMILY BEING APPROVED, BUT MOST OF THOSE UNITS ARE ONE AND TWO BEDROOMS WHICH REALLY, REALLY HURT FROM A FAMILY STANDPOINT, THAT COULD BE WHY THEY LIVING IN EXTENDED CARE OR NOT EXTENDED CARE EXTENDED.

STAY STAY IN THOSE SORT OF THINGS, SO THERE IS A MASSIVE NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT.

UM THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CANNOT FIND HOMES, AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CHOOSE NOT TO BUY HOMES AND YOU KNOW, WITH MY POPULATION, YOU KNOW, I'M GEN X AND MY BABY BROTHER, PARENTS, ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF. THEY'VE NEVER UNDERSTOOD THAT. UM AND YOU KNOW AS TO WHY SOMEBODY WOULD WANT TO RENT VERSUS OWN BUT WITH INTEREST, MORTGAGE RATE TAXES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, IT'S NOT THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OWNERSHIP AND WHAT THE INDIVIDUALS END UP PAYING FOR RENT. SO FOR REFERENCE SKY, BROOKE, THAT WAS THE FISHER DEVELOPMENT ACROSS FOR BUNS SOLD

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THEIR KIND OF TYPICAL LOT SIZE. I HAVEN'T GOT INTO THE DETAILS OF ALL OF THEM, BUT TYPICAL.

THEY HAD 55 66 57. AND THEN THEY HAD THEIR THEIR ATTACHED RANCH STYLES THAT WERE A LITTLE BIT LARGER LOTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, UM HAVE YOU BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE PUBLIC UTILITIES THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD COULD BE PROPERLY SERVED? SO I'VE TALKED IN KYLE NUMEROUS TIMES AND STAFF REPORT THAT HE PROVIDED IMPACT. OKAY AND, UH, HOW ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? WE HAVE NOT 1.5. I HAVE TALKED TO NUMEROUS TALKS ABOUT OTHER PROJECTS THAT I HAVE GOING ON RIGHT NOW. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS, ETCETERA. HOPEFULLY TONIGHT GOES WELL FOR THEM, BUT WE'LL SEE ON THAT. BUT, UM HAD A NUMBER OF DISCUSSIONS WITH DIANE TREASURER , ETCETERA, BUT DIANE ABOUT DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS TO PAINTING AND AT LEAST COME INTO SOME OF THE PROSPERITY SERIES. UNDERSTAND THERE IS ONE PROSPERITY SERIES COMING UP THAT CHAMBERS PUTTING ON WHERE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICT SUPERINTENDENTS COMING IN AND TALKING ABOUT IT, SO SHE IS BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND THE GROWTH AND PROBABLY WORSE THAN GROWTH FOR A SCHOOL DISTRICT IS ONE THAT IS DECLINING BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT'S FUNDED. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH FUNDING IN THE STATE OF OHIO 20 YEARS AGO, THE STATE RULED THAT FUNDING BY REAL ESTATE PROPERTY TAXES WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. AND IT HURT RURAL SCHOOL DISTRICT, ETCETERA , AND THEY HAVE YET TO FIX ANY OF THAT. UM FROM THE STANDPOINT , THESE THESE HOUSES WILL NOT HAVE ANY MORE NBA STATISTICS. WHETHER IT'S RENTAL ALL UNDER ETCETERA WILL NOT HAVE ANY MORE KIDS THAN THE EXISTING HOUSES THAT ARE SURROUNDED IT. IT'S ABOUT 0.314 POINT, 317. NUMBER OF KIDS PER UNIT THAT IS THERE. THOSE WERE SOME STATISTICS THAT WERE SHARED LAST WEEK THAT I CAN GET YOU TO BE. I STATS ON THAT. BUT YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER THAT THE VALUES OF THESE HOUSES ARE ABOUT 38% MORE THAN THE EXISTING HOMES AND MARYSVILLE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, SO THE REAL ESTATE TAXES COMING OFF OF THESE WITH NO ADDITIONAL KIDS BETWEEN EXISTING RESIDENTS AND FUTURE RESIDENTS, NEW RESIDENTS, UM, WITH THAT BEING THE SAME THESE FOLKS WILL PAY ROUGHLY 38% MORE TO THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT, 38% MORE TO THE FIRE, THE POLICE AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS AND THAT'S JUST BASED ON VALUE. AND YOU KNOW ANDREW WEAVER'S TRY ANNUAL PEACE IN MARYSVILLE WENT UP 23.8% AS YOU GUYS PROBABLY KNOW IF OBVIOUSLY IN MARRIAGE. NOBODY. NEWHOUSE'S IT HITS EXISTING HOUSES. UM. BUT IT WILL . AND FROM THE STANDPOINT, A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL SAY THAT HOUSING WHETHER IT'S RENT OR FOR SALE DOES NOT PAY FOR THE SCHOOL. WELL THAT'S NOT HOW THE MECHANISM WORKS. THE REAL ESTATE TAXES FROM INDUSTRIAL RETAIL OFFICE AND RESIDENTIAL COMBINED TO PAY FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, THE EMPTY NESTER, THE EMPTY NESTERS THAT LIVE UP HERE INTO PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE KIDS. THEY'RE ALSO CONTRIBUTED TO SCHOOL, SO IT IS A COMBINED FUNDING MECHANISM. IT'S NOT JUST NEW HOUSES, UM, THAT OR FAMILIES THAT HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT SCHOOL TAX. UM SO BUT THAT THAT WILL BE A STEP THAT WE HAVE. SO WE SHOW THE SKETCH PLAN. WE GET AN IDEA FOR HOW MANY LOTS THAT WE HAVE AND THE NUMBER OF SCHOOL AND WE'LL CALCULATE THOSE AND WE WILL SIT DOWN AND GOT A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH DIANE AND A FEW MEMBERS ON SCHOOL BOARD, WHICH ONE OF THEM JUST HAPPENED TO BE A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION A WHILE BACK, SO WE WILL BRING THIS PROJECT THROUGH AND SIT DOWN, BUT WE BRING THE SKETCH PLAN THROUGH FIRST. YES SIR. TARGET RENTAL PRICE FOR THESE UNITS WE HAVE YOU KNOW THAT. PROBABLY 18 $2000. IT DEPENDS. IT WILL BE ON A SQUARE FOOT BASIS. THERE'S 1800 SQUARE FOOT HERE TO 2500 SQUARE FOOT, SO I MEAN, YOU COULD HAVE SOME RENTAL PRICES UPWARDS TO 28 $3000 PER MONTH. SO THE MAJORITY OF THE OF THE TARGET MARKET HERE IS A PORTION OF IT WILL BE EMPTY NESTERS THAT ARE LOOKING TO RENT VERSUS OWN. A PORTION OF IT WILL BE MILLENNIALS AND YOUNG FAMILIES THAT ARE LOOKING TO GET INTO MARYSVILLE FOR WORK AND FOR OTHER REASONS, AND THE OTHER PORTION IS, UM UM, RELOCATIONS.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT THERE, YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE SOMEBODY STAYING IN EXTENDED CARE UNLESS HE LIKES . WE'RE NOT MEAN. I'M SORRY. YES. RIGHT TO PUSH OFF. MAYBE WE NEED MORE BLUEBIRDS HERE, BUT IT IS AN AGING POPULATION. BUT BUT ANY WHICH WAY? UM THIS WOULD THIS WOULD GIVE THEM AN ALTERNATIVE TO A TRADITIONAL APARTMENT. JOE AND I HAVE HEARD THAT THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS STAYING AT HOTELS FOR MORE THAN A YEAR THAT BECAUSE THEIR COMPANY ON RELOCATION AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS YOU KNOW, PAY FOR THAT HOTEL ROOM VERSUS YOU KNOW, HOUSE OR AN APARTMENT. OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. UH, THE CITY HAD PRINTED OUT YOUR

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RESPONSES TO THE, UH, STEPH COMMENTS THAT WE'RE JUST RECEIVING THIS EVENING. UM WAS THERE SHOULD BE AGREED WITH EVERYTHING THAT THEY SAID THAT WE WOULD MAKE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE DIVERGENCE THAT I LISTENED, SO WE CLEANED UP A NUMBER OF THINGS THEY RECOMMENDED. UM, VERY. BETWEEN THE SKETCH PLAN AND THE PRELIMINARY PLAN, WHICH WILL DO THAT WE'LL GET WITH THE COUNTY TO SEE IF THE COUNTY ENGINEER HAS ANY CONCERNS WITH IT. I WILL ALSO GET WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. TO DO A CIRCULATION PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS BUT AGAIN UNTIL YOU GET YOUR IDEA OF YOUR BASIC DENSITY, AND WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS GOING TO BE ACCEPTED THE SKETCH PLAN. YOU DON'T GO THROUGH THOSE WE DID DO THE TRAFFIC STUDY BECAUSE THE LAST TIME THIS DEVELOPMENT CAME THROUGH, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND TRAFFIC. AND BECAUSE IT CAME THROUGH A STRAIGHT ZONING, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY. SO WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT THE MONEY. THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS IN THE HANDS OF KYLE AND JEREMY RIGHT NOW, AND THEY WILL EVALUATE THAT WILL SIT DOWN WITH THEM BETWEEN NOW. AND THE PRELIMINARY PLATT. I'D LIKE TO HAVE THOSE THINGS KIND OF IRONED OUT AS TO WHAT IMPROVEMENTS THEY WANT US TO MAKE. AND IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY, ALSO THE ANALYSIS BEING DONE AND ALSO STARTS TO TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH OF THIS RESIDENT DEMAND WILL ACTUALLY HAD NORTH VERSUS SOUTH BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER MAJOR. OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THE TRAFFIC ISSUES TO THE NORTH PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY.

THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY BEING CUT THROUGH THIS YEAR THAT IS BEING DONE BY A DEVELOPER. UM AND I KNOW THAT DEVELOPER VERY WELL AND THEY'RE HOPING TO HAVE IT DONE BEFORE THE END OF FALL. UM SO THAT WILL RELIEVE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC TO THE NORTH. BUT HAVING A TRAFFIC STUDY DO THE STUDY AS TO HOW MUCH OF THIS DEMAND WILL WORK IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR ABOUT AS MANY PEOPLE LEAVE MARYSVILLE TO GO TO THEIR WORK AS THE PEOPLE THAT COME IN, IT'S ALMOST BALANCED PERFECTLY. SO AND I THINK THE MAJORITY OF THOSE FOLKS ARE GOING TO GO TO THE SOUTH. UM YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL. UM BUT WHAT? WHAT KIND OF BUILD OUTS BECAUSE BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED IN THIS MIDDLE BEING BUILDING PHASES.

HOW MANY YEARS DO YOU THINK, UM, BETWEEN LIKE NOW AND WHEN THE LAST HOME WAS BUILT, UM WOULD YOU GUESS LESS THAN IF IT WAS SINGLE FAMILY FOR SALE? SO A SINGLE FAMILY FOR SALE WITH 300 IF YOU GET 35 TO 40 UNITS PER YEAR, AND I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE FISHER HOMES, RYAN HOMES IN MY, WHATEVER. BUT IF YOU CAN SELL 30 TO 40 IN A COMMUNITY, THEN THAT IS DOING WELL FOR THAT COMMUNITY, CONSIDERING THAT COMPETITION AND EVERYTHING ELSE THERE, SO IN THAT CASE, YOU KNOW IT COULD TAKE FIVE OR SIX YEARS TO DEVELOP OUT. MAYBE EVEN SEVEN YEARS. IF IT WAS INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE YOU PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN YOU SELL THE HOUSES. IN THIS CASE, OBVIOUSLY THE FRONT PORTION TO THE NORTH OR TO THE TO THE EAST WOULD BE DEVELOPED FIRST, AND IT'S ROUGHLY TWO PHASES. NOW, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL PUT IN HALF THE PHASE AND YOU'LL SEE HOW IT LEASES UP AND HOW IT HOW IT IS RECEIVED TO THE COMMUNITY, AND THEN YOU'LL DO THE REST OF IT.

SO I WOULD PROBABLY SAY IF YOU KNOW, INTEREST RATES ARE UP RIGHT NOW. WHICH HURTS THE AFFORDABILITY OF FOR SALE. UM, BUT THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, FOR RENT RATES WENT UP 18% LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE IT WENT UP. 16% THAT'S CENTRAL. HIGHER NUMBER, NOT MARYSVILLE.

BUT I THINK YOU'RE EXPERIENCING THE EXACT SAME THING BECAUSE IT IS JUST SUPPLY AND DEMAND SO AS THOSE CONTINUE TO GO UP AND MORE PEOPLE NEEDING PLACE TO LIVE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND A FOR SALE PRODUCT, THEN THIS PRODUCT WILL BE PROBABLY IN HIGH DEMAND. AND THE 23 APARTMENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE WENT UP IN MARYSVILLE SINCE PROBABLY THE LAST THREE YEARS. THEY ARE ALWAYS SITTING AT ABOUT 96% OCCUPANCY. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I THINK THREE YEARS, ONE YEAR, HALF YEAR SITTING AND THEN THE SECOND HALF OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THREE, BUT LIKE YOU SAID, THAT IS JUST MY OPINION BASED ON THE MARKET. UM, YOU KNOW WHO KNOWS WHAT HAPPENS WITH INTEREST RATES AND THE ECONOMY AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. SO I MEAN, FORGET TO ASK , UH ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS POINT OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP TO CITIZEN COMMENTS? UM SO TWO PEOPLE WALK IN AFTER WE SWORE IN IF YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK, ASKED THAT YOU STAND UP READ, UM , AN OATH. JUST SO PLEASED. RIGHT? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU DECLARE THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH UNDER THE PAINS AND PENALTIES OF PERJURY.

IN QUALIFICATION SIGNAL BY SAYING I WILL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT SO WE ARE GOING TO OPEN UP CITIZEN COMMENTS. UM YOU HAVE UP TO FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK. UM BECAUSE THIS FORMAT, UM IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS, THE TENDENCY IS YOU WANT TO ASK BART DIRECTLY QUESTIONS AND THAT'S

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NOT HOW THIS IS REALLY FORMATTED. SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WRITE THEM DOWN AFTER ALL CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE FINISHED UP. UM WHAT WILL COME BACK UP AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THE QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT SO ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS LOOKING TO MAKE COMMENTS TONIGHT? SORRY, GIVING, YOU KNOW, JUST JUST GO UP TO THE PODIUM. IF YOU JUST HAVE QUESTIONS, I'LL WRITE THEM DOWN.

UM YEAH, THAT'S FINE. AND SO, YES, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. SO SAY YOUR NAME YOUR ADDRESS AND SAY WHAT YOU LIKE TO SAY. DON'T ALL RUSH TO THE PODIUM, OKAY? WE'LL GET MORE OR GOOD AFTERNOON . MY NAME IS DAVE HUBERT NUMBER, 13 13, WEAVER WROTE. SO WE RODE . WE'VE WE'VE TAKEN THE BLOW OF KEYSTONE CROSSING CHESTNUT RUN A POINT NOW WEAVER RIDGE NOW WE'VE EVER MEDAL FOREIGNERS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR RUG LOOKS LIKE OUR. FOLKS ON THE 2 45 COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT INTERSECTION AND IN THE GROWTH HEADING THAT WAY WE'VE ERODE IS TERRIBLY CONGESTED. IT'S BETTER.

AND THAT WE'RE GONNA PUT 203 100 MORE HOMES ON WEAVER ROAD. THE MISSOURI SENATE LUTHERAN CHURCH OWNS 330 MORE ACRES OF PROPERTY ACCESS AND ON 7 36 TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONGESTION. HOW MUCH MORE CAN WE TAKE ON WEAVER ROAD? WHY DOES IT DEVELOPER WANT? REYNOLDS VERSUS FAMILY HOMES. I WOULD I WOULD THINK IT'S FINANCIAL BENEFIT TO THEM. UM. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WE TALKED ABOUT, WEAVER WROTE IN HERE. EXPANSION TALKED ABOUT PUTTING A TUNNEL OVER WEAVER ROAD AND SO THE RUNWAY CAN EXTEND FURTHER AND WEAVER ROAD. UM YOU KNOW, NOW WE GET TRAFFIC FROM GREENWOOD COLONY FROM 38. UM IT'S WEAVER. THIS GENTLEMAN TALKED ABOUT A TRAFFIC STUDY.

BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN. YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER SEEN THE STRIPS IN THE ROAD OR TRAFFIC STUDY THAT'S HAPPENED, BUT UM IT IS TREMENDOUS, ESPECIALLY COMING FROM SCOTLAND. YOU CAN JUST SEE THE TRAFFIC FROM 33 TO SCOTT LONG ROAD TO WEAVER ROAD. BETWEEN THAT. 7 TO 9 IN. COMING FORWARD TO SIX P.M. IT'S DISTURBING. IT'S A CONCERN. UM. SO WE GENTLEMEN TALKED ABOUT FAIR AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT 75,400 BUT. THEY'RE GONNA BE 1800 TO $2000 RENTAL PROPERTIES.

I MEAN, I'M NOT SO SURE. I WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO 300 REYNOLD ROOMS. IN THIS AREA. THIS IS FARMLAND. I KNOW IT'S IT WAS A MISSOURI SENATE. CHURCH GIFTED TO THEM. BUT 298 YOU KNOW, WE'RE BUILDING THEM ON A MATCHBOX. EACH HOUSE JUST LIKE WEAVER. WE ARE CHESTNUT. WHERE BUT, UM. I THINK YOU GOTTA LOOK AT IT. THE CITIZENS SPOKE ABOUT THE CONCERN IN THE IN THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS ON 2 45. UM YOU KNOW THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS ON WEAVER, SCOTLAND. GREATLY UM AS WELL. UM. YOU KNOW , I KIND OF SIT BACK AND LISTEN. YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW YOU KNOW WE CAN DO. IF WE'RE GONNA DO RENTALS, IT'S A THREE YEAR IF WE'RE GOING TO IF THEIR FAMILY OWNED IT. SIX YEARS IF WE CAN'T SELL THREE MORE THAN 30, OR 40 FAMILY OWNED HOLES DIVISION IN THE YEAR. I THINK WE ALL HEAR THAT MARY'S LITTLE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH HOUSING. I WOULD THINK FAMILY HOMES WOULD DO QUICK SO I WOULD ASK AGAIN. LOOK AT LOOK AT 7 36 ACCESS BECAUSE THE MISSOURI SENATE LUTHERAN CHURCH OWNS ADDITIONAL LAND THAT CAN ACCESS 7 36 TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THIS TRAFFIC ON WEAVER ROAD. UM. THAT'S ALL I HAVE THE PARK YOU TALKED ABOUT PARK. SEE, WHY WOULDN'T OUR PARK YOU KNOW IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO ENHANCE IT. WHY IS THE PARK WAY IN THE CORNER? WHY WOULDN'T WE WANT THAT PART SURROUNDED BY OUR PALMS AND GIVE IT THAT LUSTER? IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, AND IF YOU AT HONDA, WE CALL IT GOING TO THE SPOT IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE SPOT THIS GRAY AREA UP HERE. IS

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A HOUSE IN THIS IS A HOUSE HERE . THIS IS TUCKED UP HERE, AND IT'S EASIER ARTICULATED. IT'S NOT SO EASY TO PUT IT IN HERE, SURROUNDED BY THE PONDS AND MAKING IT LOOK GOOD. THAT'S WHAT REAL DEVELOPER WOULD DO APPEAR ON WEAVER ROAD. YOU WANNA ALL THAT TRAFFIC TO GO TO A PARK LIKE THAT? SURE. OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK. KATHY WAS ALREADY ON HIS WAY. NO WORRIES.

THERE WILL BE TIME. YEAH. ALRIGHT TO CLOSE THIS. I HAVE NO CLUE THAT YOU COMMISSION MEMBERS AND MAN. AND J C NOTE. STEIN 14 TO 50 WEAVER ROAD. I'VE GOT FIVE YES OR NO QUESTIONS. THE GREEN FLAGS DON'T DENOTING A PENDING ZONING CHANGE NOT REQUIRED FOR THIS. CITY STAFF MORE CITY OF STAFF. LIKE SIGNS BEFORE ZONING CHANGES. ISN'T THERE USUALLY A SIGN ALONG THE ROAD? PROBABLY REGARDING THIS APPLICATION. YEAH. IS THERE SOME POINT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OR THE RESIDENTS OF WEAVER MILL FARMS, MEMBERS OF A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OR TENANTS ASSOCIATION. WE'VE ANSWERED THAT. SO I THINK, CALLING IT A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. THERE'S KIND OF A WARM, FUZZY WORD PEOPLE LIKE ASSOCIATION. DOES THE RESIDENT MOWED THE GRASS AND SHOVEL THE SNOW? ALL THE SURCHARGE FOR UTILITY PAYMENTS BE LESS THAN 5. I DON'T KNOW WHAT QUESTION.

HORRIBLE OR THE RESIDENTS GOING TO DO. CONTRACT DIRECTLY WITH THE ELECTRIC COMPANY, THE GAS COMPANY IN THE WATER. AT ALL. SO WE CHOOSE. YEAH. FIGURE UP. WELL THE SWIMMING POOL BE OPEN TO ME COMING HARD ON THIS DAY. RIGHT THE QUESTION DOWN AND ASK PORT AT THE END, WE'LL TRY TO KEEP IT SEPARATE. SO AH. THANK THANK YOU. YES, SIR. KATHY. ANYTIME. PLEASE, PLEASE. THE YOUNG FOR 25 WEST STATE STREET. COURSE I'M OPPOSED TO THIS BECAUSE THIS IS MY COMPETITION. AND AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, IN THE PAST WHEN I OPPOSED BART'S APARTMENT COMPLEX. BECAUSE IT WAS ONLY TWO BEDROOMS WE DO NEED THREE BEDROOM HOUSING IN MARYSVILLE. I HAVE TWO ON THE MARKET RIGHT NOW. I'M INUNDATED WITH PEOPLE CONTACTING ME FOR RENTALS. UM, QUALITIES. ANOTHER QUESTION. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M KIND OF PICKY. UM. WITH THIS. I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE GOING TO BE DATED SEPARATELY. I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS QUESTIONS NEEDED SEPARATELY, ASSUMING THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE CHARGED TO BE OKAY? I'LL DRESS YOU ADDRESS THAT, OKAY? AND THEN THE OTHER THING, THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION LIKE THE GREEN SPACE , THIS IS NOT COMING FROM ME. THIS IS COMING FROM KATIE. SHE WANTED ME TO ASK THIS. UM THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ALL THESE GETS SOLD OFF AT SOME POINT BECAUSE AT SOME POINT THINGS GET SOLD UP. UM WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO ALL THE COMMON AREAS? THERE'S A SITUATION OFF SMOKEY ROW WHERE THE COMMON AREA WENT INTO TAX FORECLOSURE. AND SOMEBODY BOUGHT THE PARKING LOT FOR A CONDO COMPLEX AND IS NOW CHARGING $300. FOR EACH PARKING SPOT. IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN HERE? SO THAT'S MY QUESTION. MHM. I HAVE

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INDEED, POTTER GRIM 14 TO 94. WE WERE ROUNDED. SO LET ME START WITH. WELL I'LL HOLD OFF ON MY HAND OUT. SO YOU GUYS DON'T JUST LOOK AT MY PICTURES. HOW ABOUT THAT? GOOD EVENING PLANNING, ZONING AND MEMBERS OF THE MARYSVILLE COMMUNITY. CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? TONIGHT'S MEETING FEELS LIKE DEJA VU. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME, I STOOD IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF REZONING 14 3 73 WEAVER ROAD FROM AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL TO SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. MY HUSBAND AND I SHOWED THE POOR CONDITIONS OF MENTEE. MANY RENTAL HOMES OWNED AND MANAGED. BY THE PROPOSED DEVELOPER, AM H OR AMERICAN HOMES FOR RENT. THAT PROJECT WAS 284 RENTAL HOMES, A FEW POCKET PARKS RETAINING PAR PLANS. CLUBHOUSE POOL. THE PROJECT WAS VOTED DOWN. BY CITY COUNCIL. NOT EVEN A YEAR LATER, I STAND BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING AGAINST THE REZONING OF 14 3 73 WEAVER ROAD FROM AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL TO NOW PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. AS I'M AWARE, MR BARUCH, MY PRONOUNCING YOUR NAME HAS BEEN BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL BEFORE. BUT I BELIEVE THAT WAS FOR REPRESENTING ROCKFORD HOMES, WHICH HE REITERATED TONIGHT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. NOW MR BARRACK IS HERE, REPRESENTING WHOM? WHOM IS HE, REPRESENTING? HE DID SHARE IT WAS AMERICAN HOMES. BUT I HAVE A QUESTION ONCE AGAIN, THE APPLICATION STATES THAT HE IS A REPRESENTATIVE, REPRESENTATIVE. THE DEVELOPERS NOT HERE. SO WHO EXACTLY IS THIS? SO I DROVE INTO THE APPLICATION, AND I COULDN'T FIND ANYWHERE IN THE APPLICATION THAT STATED WHO THE DEVELOPER IS WHICH I FOUND TO BE VERY STRANGE BECAUSE AS YOU'RE AWARE WHEN A DEVELOPER COMES BEFORE YOU PLASTER THEIR NAME AND ADVERTISEMENT EVERYWHERE, MIRANDA HOME ROCKFORD HOMES, FISHER HOMES EVERYWHERE. BUT ONCE AGAIN, NOTHING IN ANY OF THIS INFORMATION DOES IT DESCRIBE? DOES IT TELL US WHO THE DEVELOPER OF THIS PROPERTY IS? BUT THERE WERE SO MANY SIMILARITIES. SO MANY SIMILARITIES ABOUT THE A M H RENTAL COMMUNITY FROM LAST YEAR , AND MR BARUCH REITERATED WE I QUOTE FROM THIS EVENING WE ELIMINATED FROM THE FRONT OF THE SUBDIVISION. IF I MAY. THE HOUSES. WHICH IF YOU LOOK AT A MM JUST PLANNED FROM LAST YEAR.

WE'RE HOUSES. HOW KIND OF THEM. TO ELIMINATE THAT. I'M SORRY IT'S HAPPENED BEFORE I WENT TO THE APPLICATION AND I STARTED LOOKING AT THE RENDERINGS. PLEASE LET ME SHARE. AND WE SAW THEM TONIGHT. WEAVER MILK FARMS IF YOU WOULD TAKE ONE AND PASS IT DOWN. IF YOU COULD ALSO LOOK AT A M. H IS SUBDIVISION FROM ACCRINGTON, OHIO. SHOPPING. THAT THEY HAVE THE EXACT THE EXACT SAME MODEL HOMES. THE A N A SHOT DOWN LAST YEAR COMMUNITY. CLUBHOUSE THAT THEY'VE DESCRIBED ONCE AGAIN. THE RENDERING IS EXACTLY LIKE THE BEAUTIFUL VIDEO THAT THEY SHOWED US THEIR UTOPIA SOCIETY. WEAVER RUBE THE SAME EXACT. SO WHO ACTUALLY IS THE DEVELOPER? IS IT A MH BAIT AND SWITCH? CITY COUNCIL VOTED 284 UNITS DOWN LAST YEAR. WE ARE WE ARE NOW ENTERTAINING 298 UNITS.

WE'RE ALMOST AND IT'S ONLY BEEN A YEAR AGO. PLEASE GO BACK. TWO A.M. H IS PLANNING FROM LAST YEAR I RAN OUT OF PRINTER CARTRIDGE, OR I WOULD HAVE PRINTED THEM OFF FOR YOU. THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME SUBDIVISION MINUS OH, THAT'S RIGHT. THE PONDS, THEY CONDENSE THEM. THIS IS THE EXACT SAME THING, BUT THEY'RE JUST ASKING FOR MORE UNITS. PLEASE DO NOT LET THEM BAIT AND SWITCH AGAIN. MISS YEARS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WELL TIMED YOU HAD 12 SECONDS

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LEFT PICTURE. HEY. OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK. OR IF YOU JUST HAVE QUESTIONS WRITTEN DOWN, I CAN JUST ASK HIM. OKAY, QUESTION. WHY DO THEY NEED TO CLEAN UP THEIR PLAN WAS PLAYING THE SAME PLAN THAT WAS PREVENTED LAST YEAR. I MEAN, YOU MENTIONED MHM MH FROM LAST YEAR. UH, BART . I THINK THERE AREN'T ANY CITIZEN IN ADDITIONAL CITIZEN COMMENTS THAT ONE. THERE WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE. IT WASN'T REQUIRED LAST YEAR. YES UM SO IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO BELIEVE 70 TO APPROVE THE AMERICAN HOMES. THIS IS A BIG SWITCH CAN ANSWER WHO THE DEVELOPER IS. I AM THE DEVELOPER . SO I'VE GOT 18 YEARS WORTH OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE REAL ESTATE ALLEGED JEROME VILLAGE FROM THE ORIGINAL DEFAULT OF THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER NATIONWIDE, TOOK IT OVER. I TOOK THAT PROJECT FROM DAY ONE ALL THE WAY THROUGH WHEN I LEFT ABOUT 18 MONTHS AGO, WHEN I LEFT, THERE WERE 1800 HOUSES AND 18 DIFFERENT BUILDERS VALUES VALUES THE BENEFITS TO THE TOWNSHIP. THE BENEFITS OF THE COUNTY TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TAP FEES AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. SO AM I. A REAL DEVELOPER? YES. SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT. I HAVE BROUGHT OTHER PIECES THROUGH. I WORK FOR MYSELF. STOCKS REAL ESTATE IS MONEY HAPPENS TO BE THE RED SOX.

UM BUT STOCKS REAL ESTATE IS MY ENTITY. I WORK FOR MYSELF. I HAVE A PARTNERSHIP THAT I HAVE CREATED A NEW PARTNERSHIP WITH ROCKFORD DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENTS THAT WE DO BIGGER DEALS. MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITIES THROUGH THAT ENTITY. SOCKS REAL ESTATE IS A PERCENTAGE OWNER OF THAT ROCKFORD HOMES IS THE EQUITY PROVIDER THAT DOES THAT, AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS AND MARYSVILLE UNION COUNTY DRUM TOWNSHIP, COMMERCIAL POINT, PICKERING, 10 AND OTHER AREAS THAT FACILITATE THROUGH THERE, BUT THE DEVELOPER OF THIS IS MYSELF. IT'S STOCKS, REAL ESTATE . EXACTLY WHAT I DID AT JEROME VILLAGE NATIONWIDE. WAS THE DEVELOPER THERE THAT I REPRESENTED. AND THEN WE BROUGHT THE ENTITLEMENTS THROUGH. WE DID THE PLANS. WE DID THE ENGINEERING AND THEN WE SOLD IT TO BUILDERS AND IT IN THAT MANNER YOU CAN PICK AND CHOOSE WHO YOU ARE. UM, I STOOD UP HERE AND I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS. 100% THIS ISN'T BAIT AND SWITCH . WE'RE NOT HIDING ANYTHING. THE HOMEBUILDER IN THIS SITUATION IS GOING TO BE AMERICAN HOMES. AND I SAID THAT VERY CLEARLY, IT IS A FAIR HOUSING ISSUE, WHETHER IT IS RENT OR CRUISING. I MEAN, IT'S JUST SIMPLY. THAT IS THE FACT AND I'M NOT POINTING THAT OUT FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSES FOR THAT. SO LET ME GO THROUGH A FEW OF THESE THINGS. UM DAVE HAD MENTIONED THE ROADWAY, THE ROADWAY AGAIN. THERE WASN'T A TRAFFIC STUDY. WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO QUANTIFY THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THIS IS GOING TO BRING ITS GOING TO QUANTIFY. WE DID ANALYSIS AND YOU DON'T DO IT WITH THE STRIPS ANYMORE. YOU DO IT WITH CAMERAS. SO THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE HIM. UM, YOU DON'T REALLY TELL YOU WHEN THEY'RE DOING IT BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO GO STEAL THE CAMERA OFF THE TELEPHONE POLE OR WHATEVER, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THAT ANALYSIS AND WE WENT ALL THE WAY UP PAST INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY ALL THE WAY TO FIFTH AVENUE TO EVALUATE THE IMPACT ON THOSE NOW SOME OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS MAY SEE DECREASES BECAUSE OF THE CONNECTIVITY THROUGH THESE SORT OF THINGS, BUT IT WILL BE ALL ENCOMPASSING. AND THAT'S WHY WE DID A P U. D IS TO BE ABLE TO QUANTIFY BECAUSE TRAFFIC WAS A CONCERN TO COUNCIL, UM, TO ANSWER ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THERE. WHY IS THIS COMING BACK THROUGH A YEAR LATER? WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT CASTLE HAD COUNCIL HAD AS WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS. OBVIOUSLY THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED UNANIMOUSLY ON THAT PROJECT AND A COUNCIL SOMETHING WENT ASTRAY AND I BELIEVE IT WAS 43 VOTE. UM TO VOTE IT DOWN IN THOSE SORT OF THINGS, SO WE ARE TRYING TO COME BACK AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE. UM BUT THIS ASSIGNMENT IS WITH STOCKS.

REAL ESTATE. I AM THE DEVELOPER AND THE HOME BUILDER WOULD BE AMERICAN HOME, SO THERE'S NOTHING BEING HIDDEN HERE. UM OR ANYTHING ELSE SO VALUE. THESE HOMES WILL HAVE A VALUE THE OUTAGE WEBSITE WILL THESE ARE GOING TO BE INDIVIDUAL PLANTED? UM THE BUILDER BUSINESS MODEL IS TO RENT, UM AT A POINT IN THE FUTURE, THEY COULD SELL THIS COLLECTIVELY AS AN ENTIRE THING OR BECAUSE THESE WILL BE PLANTED INDIVIDUAL LOTS. UM THESE COULD BE SOLD OFF INDIVIDUALLY. THE TENANT ASSOCIATION, THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION. THEY WORK VERY SIMILAR, SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION AND ATTENDED ASSOCIATION, THE TENANT ASSOCIATION IS MANAGED BY ONE ENTITY AND THAT IS THE OWNER OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. NO DIFFERENT THAN MARYSVILLE FLATS . NO DIFFERENT THAN KENMORE PLACE OR OUR PROJECT TO THE NORTH AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS.

IF THEY WERE TO START SELLING THESE LOTS INDIVIDUALLY HAS AN EXTRA STRATEGY. THEY WOULD SWITCH THE TENANT ASSOCIATION TO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AT THAT POINT IN TIME IN NEW DEVELOPMENTS NATIONWIDE, RAN THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS THAT JEROME VILLAGE AND STILL RUN THEM TODAY. YOU DO THAT FOR CONSISTENCY WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING ON. IN THIS CASE, THE HOMEOWNER

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ASSOCIATION WOULD BE ESTABLISHED . WHEN YOU HAD A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS. YOU WOULDN'T DO IT WITH THE FIRST RESIDENT OR THE SECOND OR THE THIRD WHEN IT IS BUT AGAIN, MY BUILDER DOES NOT HAVE PLANS TO SELL THESE OFF. BUT IT IS AN EXIT STRATEGY. AND THERE ARE QUALITY ASPECTS OF THIS THAT THAT BUILDER IS PUTTING IN PLACE. UM WE MENTIONED IN OUR TEXT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE VINYL. WE'RE GONNA PARTY HARDY PLANK ON THERE. SOME OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES ARE USING VINYL IN THAT MATERIAL. UM IT IS A WEAKER MATERIAL. IT DOESN'T LAST, AND THEY'RE DOING IT BECAUSE THE BUILDER WILL BE THE ONE THAT MAINTAINS ALL ALL THE HOUSES, THEY MOWED THE GRASS. THEY SNOWPLOW, THE INDIVIDUAL DRIVEWAYS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS THEY MAINTAIN THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE AMENITIES JUST LIKE NATURE A SO THERE'S NO DIFFERENT BETWEEN ATTENDANT ASSOCIATIONAL HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION OTHER THAN THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION ULTIMATELY GETS TURNED OVER TO THE HOMEOWNERS. BECAUSE OF THE RENTER NATURE THAT WON'T HAPPEN UNLESS THIS PRODUCT OR THIS COMMUNITY WERE TO GO TO A FOR SALE TYPE OF PRODUCT. BUT THE HOUSES THAT WILL BE HERE WILL BE HIGHER QUALITY THAN SOME OF THE ONES AND SOME OF THE ONES AROUND OUR MY BUILDERS THAT I'VE USED AT JEROME VILLAGE AND OTHER LOCATIONS. UM SO I'VE SOLD TWO OF THESE TWO AMERICAN HOMES. WHEN I WAS A NATIONWIDE WE SOLD A PARCEL THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, UM, IN SUNBURY AT NORTH SHORE GOLF COURSE TO AMERICAN HOMES. IT'S ONE OF THE OTHERS. IF YOU SEE THEIR PRODUCT WHERE THEY DO THESE THESE. WHOLE COMMUNITIES. THE PRODUCT IS NO DIFFERENT THAN MARYSVILLE FLATS OR THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, THE EQUALITY OF THE AMENITIES IN THE CLUBHOUSE POOL FITNESS. THEY'RE MARKETING TO THE EXACT SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT MARYSVILLE FLATS CAN MORE PLACES SOME OF THE APARTMENTS ARE DOING. THIS IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU WILL ENTERTAIN MORE FAMILIES HERE. BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE THREE OR FOUR BEDROOM UNITS HERE. THERE ARE NO TWO BEDROOM UNITS HERE. SO YOU KNOW TWO SINGLE GUYS OR SINGLE GALS, ETCETERA THAT YOU KNOW ARE ARE WORKING STARTED OUT THEIR LIFE. THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE HERE. THEY'RE GOING TO BE AT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS SO, BUT THE VALUE OF THE HOMES ANDREW WEAVER WILL TAX THESE AT THAT 3 75 TO 4 20 VALUE AND IT WILL INCREASE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER HOME OWNERSHIP. UM AND DOES IT, UM. 7 36. I'LL LOOK AT THAT PIECE. UM, THIS IS WHAT THE LUTHERAN CHURCH WANTED TO SELL AND WAS IN CONTRACT THAT THEY ASSIGNED TO ME. SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I GLADLY LOOK AT OTHER ROUTES AND OBVIOUSLY WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY, IF THERE ARE ISSUES THAT COME UP IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY, ALWAYS LOOK FOR THOSE THINGS YOU DID SITTING THERE. SOMEBODY MENTIONED THE CALL TO SACK NOT LIKING THE COSSACKS. UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE WE COULD TAKE THE CALLS. ULTIMATELY THAT FUTURE THAT WOULD HAVE LIMITED BACK AT POINT IN TIME, IT COULD BE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A TURNAROUND TO DO IT. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I'D OPEN TO DO AS WELL. LET'S SEE. J C CAN'T DEAL WITH THE NOTICE. UM THAT'S NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY. THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION TENANT I'VE ADDRESSED THAT THE LAWN MAINTENANCE I'VE ADDRESSED THAT THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED. MAINTAINED, UM I WILL SAY THIS, UM I'M NOT A FAN OF AMERICAN HOME PARENTS ORIGINAL BUSINESS MODEL IN 7 4008. THEY CAME INTO CENTRAL OHIO, AND THEY STARTED BUYING UP DEFAULTED HOUSES, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE GREAT RECESSION OR THE DOWNTURN THAT HAPPENED ON THE HOUSING MARKET THAT WAS UNSEEN OF IN CENTRAL HIGH AND WE'RE STILL HAVING THE EFFECTS OF THIS. THIS WHOLE SUPPLY AND DEMAND ISSUE. IN THE LACK OF HOUSING. WE HAVE NOW REALLY STEMMED FROM NO HOUSES BEING BUILT IN 8, 2009 AND 10.

WE ALSO HAVE A MASSIVE ISSUE WITH OUR SUBCONTRACTORS. HBS HIT THE SKILLED SUB LABOR BECAUSE THOSE FAMILIES THAT RUN THOSE BUSINESSES RAN THOSE BUSINESSES . THEIR KIDS HAD TO GO FIND OUT THE JOBS AND NEVER CAME BACK TO THAT MARKET, SO YOU NOW HAVE AN AGING POPULATION OF SKILLED WORKFORCE IN THE HOUSING MARKET. THAT IS EXPENSIVE. THESE PEOPLE ARE GETTING INTO THEIR FIFTIES AND SIXTIES AND READY TO RETIRE , AND THERE'S NOBODY BEHIND THEM TO TAKE OVER THOSE BUSINESSES.

AND THAT'S ALL FROM THAT 4009 RECESSION IN THE HOUSING MARKET. AMERICAN HOME BOUGHT A LOT OF DEFAULTED HOUSES. UM I THINK IT'S A FAILED. THIS IS JUST MY OPINION BECAUSE I DON'T WORK FOR AMERICAN HOMES. BUT I THINK IT'S A CONCEPT THAT IS CHALLENGED. FROM THE MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT.

I'VE SEEN THE PICTURES. UM AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS, BUT THEY BY DEFAULT AND HOUSES AND THEN THEY MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. AND THEY PUSH A LAWNMOWER IN THE GARAGE AND TELL THAT TENANT TO PHOTOGRAPHS AND TO MAINTAIN THE YARD. UM IF THAT WAS MY 31 YEAR OLD MILLENNIAL SON, I CAN IMAGINE WHAT THAT PROBABLY LOOKS LIKE. BUT THIS IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PRODUCTS AND DIFFERENT DIFFERENT. ORGAN OR DIFFERENT PART OF THEIR ORGANIZATION THAT DOES THIS. THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, AND THIS IS NEW TO CENTRAL OHIO. THEIR FIRST DEVELOPMENT. LIKE I SAID, THEY'VE GOT ONE WHERE THE HOUSES ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN PICK RINGTONE. THEY WERE TURNED DOWN ON THE SECOND ONE IN PICK RINGTONE, BUT I HAVE WORKED WITH HIM ON THREE DIFFERENT. THIS WILL BE MY THIRD PROJECT WITH THEM. NORTH STAR WE HAVE ONE OF JEROME VILLAGE OR NATURAL

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VILLAGE, JEROME TOWNSHIP, AND THEN THEY HAVE ANOTHER COUPLE OTHERS ACROSS CENTRAL HIGHER THAT THEY'RE COMING IN. BUT THIS IS THEIR BUSINESS MODEL. SO I MEAN, IF THIS CONCEPT WAS A FAILED BUSINESS MODEL. THEY WOULDN'T CONTINUE TO REPEAT THIS PROCESS AND THOSE PICTURES ARE TRUE. THEY HAVE GREAT DEVELOPMENTS IN IN THIS IN ATLANTA AND SOME OTHER CITIES, ETCETERA, AND OBVIOUSLY, I CAN BRING THOSE BACK IF YOU WANT TO SEE HIM. SO THE POOL THE AMENITY WILL BE JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER ASSOCIATION OR RENTAL PROPERTY OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT WILL BE A PRIVATE POOL, PRIVATE FITNESS, ETCETERA ONLY OPEN TO THE RESIDENTS. YOU SNUCK OVER THERE? YOU KNOW ONCE IN A WHILE, IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T SAY ANYTHING, BUT BUT IT WOULD BE PRIVATE. NOW THE PARK THE CITY IS WILLING TO PARK WOULD BE OPEN AND WE WANT TO MAKE THAT IMPROVEMENT AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS IN CITY COUNCIL MADE WAS CONTRIBUTIONS CITY COUNCIL WHEN THEY VOTED. THEY TALKED ABOUT CONNECTING TO THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT PARK IF WE CREATED A MINI THEY WERE THAT PARK HOPEFULLY WILL BE OPEN TO ALL OF MARYSVILLE VERSUS SOMETHING. YOU KNOW. I CAN'T GO UP INTO WEAVER RIDGE AND UTILIZE THEIR COMMON AREA AND I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO, BUT THEY MAY CHASE YOU OUT. THEY MAY NOT. BUT IN THAT CASE WE WERE TRYING TO PUT THAT WE DID ORIGINALLY HAVE THIS PARK IN THE BACK. AND THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE PUBLIC COMING THROUGH THE RENTAL PROPERTY, BUT ACCESS IT IN THE BACK BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THIS BACK CORNER WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST LOCATION. BUT AT SOME POINT THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED WITH OTHER PIECES, SO WE FELT PUTTING IT OUT THERE AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LIKE WEAVER ROAD IS THE MAIN POINT. WE WILL LANDSCAPE. WE WERE BUFFER. WE WERE MOUND SOME OF THAT STUFF AND IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE THE CORNFIELD SITTING OUT THERE, SO A NUMBER OF YOUR PARKS ARE OFF OF MAIN DRIVES. I MEAN, YOU GO FURTHER UP AND CROSS STREET FROM TIMBER VIEW IS ONE OF YOUR OTHER PARKS, WHICH IS SITTING ON A MAIN DRIVE THERE. UM SO, MISS POTTER. GRIM UM, LIKE I SAID, SO TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. I AM THE DEVELOPER AND I DO THIS ON GROUND ALL OVER CENTRAL OHIO.

UM, WE DO THE ENTITLEMENTS WE PUT THE GROUND IN CONTRACT IN THIS CASE IS ASSIGNMENT. WE DO THE PLANS. WE DO UTILITIES. WE WORK WITH THOSE AND THEN WE WILL DETERMINE WHETHER WE WANT TO PUT MONEY IN THE GROUND TO BRING THE INFRASTRUCTURE. WATER SEWER TO THE SITE AND IN THE BUILDERS TAKE OVER FROM THERE SO THAT THE ANSWER A QUESTION. I AM THE DEVELOPER AND I AM A REAL DEVELOPER. UM I THINK MY 18 YEARS WORTH OF EXPERIENCE HAS PROVEN THAT, UM UH, SOCKS REAL ESTATE IS THAT THAT ENTITY AND IT'S CLEARLY ON THE APPLICATION SO IT DOESN'T HAVE ON THE APPLICATION. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A BOX FOR A DEVELOPER. IT SAYS REPRESENTATIVE I AM REPRESENTING BECAUSE I DON'T OWN THE GROUND HAVEN'T BOUGHT IT, ETCETERA. UM YEAH, REPRESENTING THE LUTHERAN CHURCH WHO HAS GIVEN ME THE APPROVAL TO BRING THEIR GROUND THROUGH AND ASKED FOR A REZONING. UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE DONE. UM THE CLUBHOUSE. UM THERE ARE GREAT, GREAT PICTURES OF THAT. SO I TOTALLY AGREE WITH, UM MISS POTTER GRAHAM AND THEN LET'S SEE. THERE IS NO BAIT AND SWITCH HERE. I WAS OPEN WITH THAT AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE OPEN FROM KATHY STANDPOINT. LIKE I SAID, THESE ARE GOING TO BE HARDY PLANK. THERE WON'T BE BASEMENTS.

BUT THAT'S COST ISSUE THAT JEROME VILLAGE, THE LAST POT THAT I DEVELOPED IN ZONE WAS A PULTE HOMES 50 FT PRODUCT THAT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE BASEMENTS. POLTI WENT BACK AFTER I LEFT, AND THEY'VE GOT ABOUT 40% OF THOSE LOTS THAT THEY HAVE DECIDED. THAT THOSE MILLENNIAL BUYERS, ETCETERA WANTED BASEMENTS, BUT THAT WAS A PRODUCT THAT WE WERE SPECIFICALLY DOING. YOU GO DOWN TO BUELL PARK IN THE REDEVELOPMENT OF BUELL PARKING GROWTH CITY. THAT PRODUCT IS THERE. IT LOOKS GREAT IN THESE MILLENNIALS. THAT ARE THE TARGET MARKET FOR THIS PRODUCT AND OTHER YOUNG FAMILIES THAT HAVE FALLEN OUTSIDE THE MILLENNIALS.

UM BECAUSE THEY'VE LIVED IN APARTMENT SO LONG. THEY'RE NOT LIKE ME. I LIVED 15 YEARS IN GROSS CITY AND WHEN WE MOVED FROM GROSS CITY TO GHANA AFTER 15 YEARS, WE HAD MOVING TRUCKS.

WE HAD TO CLEAN OUT ADDICTS. WE HAD TO CLEAN OUT GARAGES AND ALL THAT STUFF BECAUSE WE HAD ACCUMULATED EVERYTHING IN THE 1ST 15 YEARS OF LIFE. BY THE TIME I WAS 30, I MEAN, WE WERE DRAGGING STUFF THE HOUSE AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE THIS COULD BE GEORGE CARLIN. AND IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH AN ORDER COMIC THAT HOUSES ARE JUST A PLACE TO PUT YOUR STUFF. ALL THESE MILLENNIALS DON'T HAVE THAT STUFF. SO YOU KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FINISH THE BASEMENT HERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHERE THEY ARE IN THE POINT IN LIFE, UH, AT THIS POINT IN STAGE IN LIFE AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS THEY ONLY NEED TWO OR THREE BEDROOMS AND MOST PEOPLE NEED THREE BEDROOMS. EVEN IF YOU HAVE ONE KID BECAUSE UNDOUBTEDLY IN THE APARTMENT RENTAL MARKET, SOMEBODY OF THAT PARENTS ARE THAT FAMILY IS WORKING FROM HOME AT SOME POINT , AND THAT'S USUALLY WHETHER IT'S A TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT. IT BECOMES THE SECOND BEDROOM AND A LOT OF YOUR SITUATIONS. SO THE QUALITY OF THESE WILL BE HARDY PLANK. THESE WILL BE MAINTAINED ALL THE EXTERIORS. THEY WILL HAVE ALL FENCED IN YARDS, SO THE PLAY AREAS AND STUFF ARE CONFINED FOR THE FAMILIES TO DO.

UM AND THE BUILDER WILL ACTUALLY MULL THE INTERIOR OF THOSE FENCED IN AREAS SO THEY WILL BE MAINTAINED VERY, VERY WELL. UM AND THEY WILL BE PLANTED NOW. FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT,

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FROM A TAX STANDPOINT, THESE WILL BE TAXED AS RESIDENTIAL. BUT I BELIEVE AND STAFF CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I BELIEVE IT IS NOT TAXED JUST BECAUSE IT IS A RENTAL PRODUCT.

IT IS TAXED IF YOU ARE FOUR UNITS ATTACHED OR MORE AS A COMMERCIAL ENTITY. APARTMENT COMPLEXES WHERE YOU HAVE THREE STORY WALK UPS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. THOSE ARE ABSOLUTELY TAXED AS A COMMERCIAL ENTITY IN MOST AREAS, AND I'M NOT TELLING CITY COUNCIL TO CHANGE YOUR TAX STRUCTURE. BUT IF YOU GO TO ORANGE TOWNSHIP, THERE'S ABOUT A 12 MIL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A RESIDENTIAL TAX RATE AND THEIR QUARREL COMMERCIAL TAX RATE, SO THEIR APARTMENTS THEY PAY ALMOST 12 BILLS MORE THAN A SINGLE FAMILY FOR THAT, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE MORE THAN FOUR UNIT ATTACHED . SO WHERE YOU GO UP MARYSVILLE OR YOU GO UP INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY, THE WILCOX PRODUCT, WHICH IS UP THERE. WHICH IS FOUR AND SIX UNITS. THEY ARE TAXED AS A COMMERCIAL ENTITY, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A SINGLE STORY. PRODUCT AND APARTMENTS ARE ATTACKS THAT WAY, BUT I BELIEVE IT IS THE ATTACHED NATURE OF THE PRODUCT FOR MORE THAT CREATES THE COMMERCIAL ENTITY. AND I'LL LOOK THAT UP AND IF THAT'S WRONG, I'LL I'LL BRING YOU TWO ITEMS. I DIDN'T CHECK OFF THE LIST THAT I THINK YOU TOUCHED ON. BUT MAYBE JUST JUST, UH HIT AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S COVERED. UM YOU KNOW WHY RENTAL VERSUS UM UNDER OCCUPIED WAS A QUESTION IT'S A DEMAND, SO IT'S 100% DEMAND ISSUE. THERE ARE FOR SALE PRODUCTS, AND I'LL GUARANTEE YOU THAT SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES UP THROUGH THEIR 30 AND 40 IS A GOOD YEAR BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ONE COMMUNITY IF THERE WAS ONLY ONE COMMUNITY. CORRECT ME, ACTUALLY, IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE PROJECTIONS FOR THE NUMBER OF UNITS NOW THE NUMBER OF UNITS IS BOTH SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTI FAMILY. THE NEEDS TO MAINTAIN WITH THE GROWTH UP HERE IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 456 100 UNITS PER YEAR. NOW THAT'S AGAIN THAT'S FOR RENT, AND THAT'S THAT'S FOR SALE PRODUCTS. BUT IF YOU ONLY HAD ONE DEVELOPMENT, UM YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A MASSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE ABLE TO DO FOUR OR 500 UNITS, ALL IN ONE THING, SO YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF PRODUCTS. THE ONE INDIVIDUAL TALKED ABOUT JUST THE ONES ON WEAVER ROAD UP HERE. BUT MARYSVILLE IS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE. AND THAT'S WHY PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE HERE. UM AND FROM THAT STANDPOINT AND INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITY AND THIS IS MORE MY OTHER SIDE OF WORK, THE WORST WAY TO DEVELOP FROM A RESIDENTIAL STANDPOINT IS PIECEMEAL IN AND I CALL THAT YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY GRABS 50 TO 75 ACRES, MAYBE 100 ACRES AND THEY COME INTO PLANNING AND THEY SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA GO WITH YOUR COMPLAINT, AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A PRODUCT AND THEN THE NEXT DEVELOPER GETS WHEN THE UTILITIES COME THROUGH. THE NEXT ROUND DEVELOPER GRABS THE NEXT 7500 ACRES. AND THEY SAY, OKAY, WE WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL. SO WHAT ARE WE GONNA ASK FOR? WELL THAT BUILDER WAS JUST SUCCESSFUL AS WORTH ASK, LET'S ASK FOR THE EXACT SAME THING AND YOU GET A VERY HOMOGENEOUS PRODUCT AND SOMEWHAT. THAT IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED ON ON WEAVER ROAD. YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF SIMILAR PRODUCTS. NOW YOU DO HAVE SOME DIVERSITY BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOU KNOW, FISHER JUST BROUGHT THROUGH ATTACHED RESIDENTIAL THERE ARE SOME CONDOS UP THERE. THERE'S EVEN SOME SOME APARTMENTS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS WHEN YOU GET UP FURTHER TO THE NORTH, BUT THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT IS NEEDED IN THIS MARKET. IT'S A PRODUCT THAT PROBABLY MAKES THE BIGGEST DENT BECAUSE AGAIN OUT OF 298 UNITS, ROUGHLY 150 OF THEM MAY GO IN. NINE MONTHS AFTER THE APPROVAL BECAUSE IT TAKES 6 TO 9 MONTHS TO BUILD THESE HOUSES, AND IN THAT, SO YOU WOULD HAVE THAT NUMBER OF HOUSES THAT ARE INTRODUCED JUST LIKE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. AND YOU KNOW MARYSVILLE FLATS. I REFERRED THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES. THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO PHASES THERE. THEY'VE JUST COMPLETED THE FIRST PHASE IS LEAST UP REALLY, REALLY WELL AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE BRINGING THROUGH THE SECOND PHASE RIGHT NOW. UM SO THAT IS SIMILAR TO THE TIMING OF WHAT THIS WOULD BE. BUT THERE WOULD BE ROUGHLY ABOUT 100 150 HOUSES THAT COME IN AND GET PUT IN THE GROUND AT THE SAME TIME, AND THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN IN A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. SO, UM, BUT THE RENT VS ON, UM IT'S THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS RIGHT NOW, FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, NOT COST UTILITIES AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS ARE AFFORDABILITY OR YOUR LABOR OF THOSE. BUT RIGHT NOW IN CENTRAL OHIO BECAUSE OF THE HOUSING CRISIS. FOR RENT AND FOR SALE. THE DEMAND IS THERE FOR BOTH OF THEM. ALRIGHT AND THE LAST ITEM? UM YEAH, I THINK YOU PROBABLY TOUCHED ON IT WAS, YOU KNOW WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE FROM THIS LAST YEAR? AND I'M GONNA CHANGE IT SLIGHTLY BY SAYING, UM , IF IT'S OKAY, UM WHAT WAS THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU GOT FROM THE SIMILAR LAST YEAR? AND WHAT WAS DONE DIFFERENT WHICH I KNOW YOU WERE NOT INVOLVED IN. I WAS NOT INVOLVED. BUT I WAS AT A NUMBER OF THOSE HEARINGS BECAUSE I HAVE SOME OTHER DEVELOPMENTS AND STUFF COMING THROUGH. SO UM, I LISTEN TO WHAT CITY COUNCIL SAID. AND WHEN PEOPLE VOTE NO ON YOUR PROJECT, YOU LISTEN TO WHAT THEY SAY. AND YOU TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES, SO I'M NOT GONNA PENCIL OUT ANY INDIVIDUAL THAT VOTED YES OR NO. ONE CITY COUNCIL, BUT WE LISTENED TO THAT. AND WE BROUGHT IT THROUGH THE PLAN ITSELF, WHETHER THIS IS

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FOR SALE OR FOR RENT. THE PLAN ITSELF IS GOOD. THE PRINCIPLES THAT I WENT THROUGH EARLIER ABOUT CONSOLIDATING THE DENSITY OF THESE HOUSES ON SMALLER LOTS AND PUTTING IT TOGETHER SO YOU CAN HAVE MORE COMMON AREA. ETCETERA IS ABSOLUTELY THERE, YOU KNOW, COULD I HAVE DONE 450 LOTS HERE? IF I HAD JUST FOLLOWED CODE WITH THE 10% COMMON AREA. YEAH I PROBABLY COULD HAVE ADDED ANOTHER 100 150 , THE GOOD OR THE BAD OF IT IS, IF THIS WAS FOR SALE, I PROBABLY COULD HAVE ADDED THOSE AND SOLD THOSE UNITS. ABSOLUTELY A BUILDER WOULD HAVE WOULD HAVE BOUGHT UNITS, BUT FROM BEFORE RENT STANDPOINT, DO YOU WANT 450 HOUSES IN THE EXACT SAME LOCATION? EXACTLY? NO THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE A FEW SMALLER LOCATIONS SPREAD OUT ACROSS THE AREA VERSUS THAT, SO THERE'S PLUSES AND MINUSES BOTH FOR RENT AND FOR SALE, AND WE'VE COME BACK THE EVALUATION OF PUTTING THE DENSITY IN THE BACK THAT CONNECTIVITY TO THE ROADS.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OTHER WAYS TO DEVELOP THIS NOW, WHETHER THAT PARKS IN THE FRONT OR THE BACK, THAT'S FINE, BUT YOU KNOW , PEOPLE THAT EITHER OWN OR RENT THESE APART OR RENT THESE HOUSES . THEY DON'T WANT TO BE ANY CLOSER TO WEAVER ROAD THAN THEY NEED TO, EITHER. UM SO AND WE DID ELIMINATE THE HOUSES THERE BECAUSE THERE ARE RESIDENTS TO THE SOUTH THAT HAVE LIVED THERE AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME OUT OF OR WAS MENTIONED AS CITY COUNCIL, ETCETERA, BUT, UM WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT WERE VOICED AT CITY COUNCIL. AND UM, I WENT I, UM I HEARD A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK WAS TRAFFIC CONCERN AND THAT THERE WASN'T A TRAFFIC STUDY. THERE IS NOW. THAT'S CORRECT. SO WHEN IT CAME THROUGH THE FIRST TIME, EVERYBODY WAS GUESSING AS TO THE CONCERNS SO AS TO HOW MUCH THE TRAVEL THE DISTANCES AND ALL THOSE SORT OF THINGS THE IMPACT. UM YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WAS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT NOT APPROVING THINGS UNTIL PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY ALLOWED SOME RELIEF TO THE NORTH OF THIS SITE AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. THE TRAFFIC STUDY DOES SHOW THAT A FAIRLY LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THIS WILL GO TO THE SOUTH. AND YOU KNOW, THE DAILY COMMUTES WILL BE TO THE SOUTH, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT OTHER PEOPLE AREN'T COMING FURTHER FROM THE NORTH AND THOSE AND COMING BACK DOWN HERE, BUT SCOTTS LAWN IS A VERY ACCESSIBLE INTERSECTION VERSUS SENDING EVERYBODY BACK UP TO FIFTH STREET AND TO COME OUT 36 SO UM I DON'T WANT ANY GUESSING ON THAT. I AM NOT AN ENGINEER. I'VE DONE THIS FOR A LONG TIME. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPTS OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS AND LIKE I MENTIONED WE'RE GOING TO RELY ON KYLE'S EXPERIENCE IN JEREMY'S EXPERIENCE TO EVALUATE THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND SIT DOWN WITH US AND SAY WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE THERE SO I CAN ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS, RESIDENTS, CONCERNS OR COUNCIL MEMBERS CONCERNS THAT MAY HAVE VOICED TRAFFIC. I'M AT LEAST GOING TO HAVE THE DATA AND THAT'S WHY WE STARTED THAT PROCESS. IT'S NOT A CHEAP PROCESS TO GO THROUGH THAT. WE STARTED THAT EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS WHEN I AGREED TO TAKE THE ASSIGNMENT TO BRING THIS BACK THROUGH. MHM. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO LET'S GO WITH THAT, UM DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS STEMMED FROM THE CONVERSATIONS? THAT PINHEAD? I'M SORRY, SUSAN CITIZEN COMMENTS OF CLOSED. I APOLOGIZE IF IT'S OKAY, I GLADLY BECAUSE I DON'T LOOK OVER THERE.

IF YOU WISH TO TAKE HIS COMMENT , BUT SURE, YES. YOU KNOW, I WANT THIS TO BE COOPERATIVE. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF I'M HERE THERE AND ONE COMMENT I'LL MAKE BEFORE THAT. I AM VERY ACCESSIBLE. AND I DO REACH OUT TO RESIDENTS AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS AND DISCUSS THEIR CONCERNS. IN BETWEEN. I DID THAT AT YOUR OWN BELLY FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, AND I'LL DO THAT HERE WITH THE INDIVIDUALS TO SPEAK IN THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT BE HERE, OKAY? YES SIR. PLEASE SAY A NAME ADDRESS. AND MY NAME IS PAUL GRAHAM. I LIVE AT 14 TO 94 WEAVER ROAD. UM ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS HIS LAST YEAR OF CITY COUNCIL TURNED IT DOWN. ONE OF THEIR BIGGEST STICKING POINTS WAS THE AMOUNT OF HOMES ON THAT PROPERTY, SO THAT WAS JUST TO LET YOU KNOW. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE STICKING POINT WAS 200. WHAT WAS IT 204? NOW THEY WANT MORE. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH IT. UM THE SECOND ONE THAT I WANTED TO DO IS THE REASON I'M BACK ON MY PHONE ALL THE TIME IS I'M VERY INTERESTED AND THE SCHOOL LEVY BECAUSE I HAVE A GIRL THAT WILL BE GOING TO MARYSVILLE HIGH SCHOOL NEXT YEAR FROM ST JOHN'S LUTHERAN SCHOOL HERE. I AM VERY MUCH SUPPORTER OF THE LUTHERAN SCHOOL. IT'S JUST NOT A SUPPORTER OF THIS PROJECT. AND, UM, ACCORDING TO WHAT'S BEING REPORTED RIGHT NOW. THE SCHOOL EVERY FAILED NOW WE'RE GOING TO PUT ALMOST 300 HOMES THAT'S GONNA PUT ABOUT 1000 MORE KIDS INTO THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT. YOU'RE THE PLANNING COMMUNITY PLAN FOR THE FUTURE OF MARYSVILLE, PLEASE. PLEASE.

THANK YOU. PLEASE SUPPORT. I'M NOT SURE THE B I HAS STATISTICS . IT'S 0.314. KIDS PER HOUSEHOLD , AND THAT IS A STATISTIC THAT IS WIDE. I DON'T THINK THAT VARIES GREATLY HERE. THERE WILL

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NOT BE 1000 KIDS FROM THIS. THAT WOULD MEAN THAT EVERY HOUSE HAS THREE POINT SOMETHING KIDS THERE AND AGAIN THIS TARGET MARKETS AS MANY EMPTY NESTERS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE RELOCATING THAT MAY JUST DECIDE TO DO IT SO WE CAN CALCULATE THE ACTUAL WORK WITH THE SCHOOLS TO USE PROJECTIONS FROM SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES TO THE NORTH. I HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING THAT AGAIN. I SAT WITH DIANNE THE NUMBER OF TIMES AND WE HAVE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS ARE COMING, SO THE SCHOOLS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO US. AND THE OTHER SIDE OF MY BUSINESS RD I WE ACTUALLY SPONSORED THEIR LEVY.

UM FROM THAT STANDPOINT, SO WE'RE DEDICATED TO WORKING TO THE SCHOOLS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GROWTH AND AS A NINE YEAR TRUSTEE FOR THE B I A WE WORK A LOT OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT YOU WANT A GROWING COMMUNITY, NOT A DECLINING COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WHEN YOU START TO LOSE FUNDS. UM SO WE WILL WORK WITH THE SCHOOLS HERE, UM, TO AT LEAST GET A NEUTRAL POSITION FROM FROM THEIR ACCOUNT. MHM THANK YOU SAID 0.3 WAS APPROXIMATELY SHE'D BE ROUGHLY 93 CHILDREN OUT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT OR TAKE TARGETING THREE AND FOUR. BEDROOM HOUSES AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. UM, BUT THOSE CALCULATIONS ARE PRETTY CONSISTENT WHEN YOU GET ACROSS A LARGER NEIGHBORHOOD, AND MARYSVILLE IS EASILY WITH THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS YOU HEAR THAT CAN THAT CAN BE CALCULATED , AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S THAT'S WE CAN USE THAT TO SCHOOLS HAVE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING ON SOME TIPS AND SOME OTHER FINANCIAL, UM, BENEFITS TO THE SCHOOLS AND ORGANIZATIONS ON SOME OTHER PROJECTS. SO WE ARE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND THEY HAVE A HIGHER HIGHER NUMBER THAN THAT. BUT EVEN IF YOU GO TO ONE, AND THOSE STATS THAT I PUT OUT WERE BY THE B, I A IN THE PROSPERITY , YOU CAN GO TO THE CHAMBER'S WEBSITE AND ACTUALLY SEE THAT MEETING WHERE WE WALKED THROUGH. THE STATISTICS AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING. IT'S ON THE CHAMBER'S WEBSITE, UM AND SEE THAT, BUT IT WAS 0.314 FOR NEW AND 0.317 FOR EXISTING HOMES. THANK YOU. UH SURE, YES. YEAH. MY QUESTION IS , IS THERE EVER BEEN A BUILDER OR DEVELOPER IN FRONT OF YOU? THAT ISN'T AMICABLE. TO TAKING YOUR SUGGESTIONS. OR FOR WORKING WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY OR FOR THIS SCHOOL. AH! NO. NO, I MEAN . I WOULD SAY YES, WE DO HAVE DEVELOPERS THAT COME THROUGH THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY IN AGREEANCE WITH PLANNING COMMISSION OR STAFF. AND THEN MY LAST ONE, UM, AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AM H ADVERTISED THAT THEY WERE MORE STAR AND HE DID MENTION THAT NORTH STAR WAS ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT THIS WAS SO ONCE AGAIN. IS THERE A CONNECTION AND IS THERE A BAIT AND SWITCH? WEAVER MILLS FARM AND A MHM PIC RINGTONE AT THE EXACT SAME NAMES OF THEIR MODEL HOMES. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S BEEN CLEAR THAT THE HOMEBUILDER IS SPANISH HOST GROUND. YES THAT CONTRACT MEETING HAS BEEN DEVELOPED. AMERICAN HOMES TO THE HOME BUILDER ON THIS PROPERTY. SO THAT WAS STATED. PATIENT AND IS VERY CLEAR THERE IS NO BABY SWITCHER I WORKED WITH ON THIS PRODUCT. WITH THE COMMUNITY IN THREE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. ARE THEY TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THE REPUTATION OF A MH BY PARTNERING HERE TONIGHT? I MEAN, I WILL SAY WE HAVE DEVELOPERS AREN'T ALWAYS THE HOMEBUILDER. SOMETIMES THE HOME BUILDER IS THE DEVELOPER.

SO I MEAN, IT'S EVERYTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY. EVERYTHING I DO IS USUALLY BEFORE THE BUILDER, SO JEROME VILLAGE WE DESIGN ZONE PLANNED EVERYTHING. WE EXTENDED UTILITIES A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE CREATED THE POD, WHICH WOULD LOOK JUST SIMILAR TO DEATH. WE DID NOT HAVE BUILDERS IN CONTRACT. THAT'S NATIONWIDE'S MONEY. SO YOU GET OUT A LITTLE FARTHER. AND PLUS THE SUCCESS OF JEROME VILLAGE. YOU TEND TO GET OUT A LOT FARTHER, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING 3000 HOUSES IN THE TOWNSHIP AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS BUT THIS IS A MODEL AND THIS IS EXACTLY HOW A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT DO WHAT I DO. UM FROM MY STANDPOINT, I DON'T BUILD HOUSES IN SOME WAY.

SKILL SET. I AM THE DEVELOPER AND GOOD AT MASTER PLANNING, UM , MASTER PLANNING DESIGN ELEMENTS, TAKING IT THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS AND THROUGH THE ENGINEERING PROCESS, UM AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE DONE FOR 15 YEARS, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW I CAN MAKE IT ANY CLEARER. I AM IN CONTRACT. THIS GROUND IS IN CONTRACT FOR AMERICAN HOMES TO BUILD THE HOMES. IF THAT WOULD FALL APART, WOULD I GO GET A FOR SALE? UM BUILDER OR SOMETHING TO DO IT? IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE AND THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THE LAST SEGMENT THAT I DID AT JEROME VILLAGE WITH A COMPANY CALLED COASTAL COASTAL RICH. AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION ALONG 42 WITH A

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FOUR RENT SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCT . THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. IT'S KIND OF A HYBRID BETWEEN FOUR SALE OR THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT AND APARTMENTS. BUT THEY ARE THE ONE BEDROOMS ARE DUPLEXES AND THE TWO BEDROOMS AND THREE BEDROOMS ARE STAND ALONE. I CALL HIM A LITTLE MUSHROOMS, BUT THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL LITTLE HOUSES BECAUSE IF YOU ELIMINATE A 16 FT GARAGE FROM THE FRONT THE HOUSE. YOU CAN MAKE IT VERY ARCHITECTURALLY PLEASING, BUT THEY HAVE PARKING LOT IN PRIVATE GARAGES THAT ARE DETACHED, AND THAT PRODUCT IS BEING BUILT AT JEROME VILLAGE RIGHT NOW, SO IT IS THE CLOSEST TO THIS, AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF COMPANIES THAT ARE NOW DOING FOR RENT FOR RENT. UM DETACHED, SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES. IT'S NOT JUST AMERICAN NOTICE. RIGHT AND AGAIN WITH THAT. DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? I JUST HAD A QUESTION. WE TALKED ABOUT THE NOTIFICATION TO THE SCHOOL BOARD FROM A PROCEDURAL VIEWPOINT IS THAT REQUIRED AT THIS PARTICULAR STAGE? I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT NOTIFICATION TO THE SCHOOL BOARD, AND I WANTED TO CONFIRM FROM A PROCEDURAL VIEWPOINT.

THAT IS A REQUIREMENT AT SOME POINT FOR THIS THIS STAGE AT THIS STAGE. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT POINT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WOULD BE PRIOR TO PRELIMINARY. PLATT. UM . THEY WOULD NEED IT PRIOR TO I THINK THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT SKETCH PLAN AND THEN THEY'LL COME BACK WITH DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND THEN IT WOULD GO TO CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED THEN THEY'LL GO THROUGH THAT PLOT PROCESS WHEN THEY COME BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION. THANKS. UH HUH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. BUT WE HAVE A MOTION. MOTION FOR APPROVAL, OKAY? CAN'T GET A ROCK ON PLEASE. MR WOLOWITZ? YES MR HUNTER? YES. MR ENGEL? YES, MR FISHER. YES, MR CILLIAN. NO. TO SEE WHY I JUST DON'T LIKE YEAH. WAIT BEFORE YOU NEED TO REFERENCE THE SPECIFIC SECTIONS OF THE CODE FROM THE STAFF REPORT FROM THE GETTING THESE. I'M SORRY I HAVE TO VOTE. YES, RELUCTANTLY, YES. MR NICHOLSON? YES. AND MS BERBICE. YES RIGHT. SO WITH THAT SAID, I WILL SAY THAT YOU KNOW, OUR JOB IS TO SEE. UM SOME METALS MEET THE ZONING CODE MEET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND THAT IS YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT OUR VOTES ARE. SO UM, THERE THERE'S AS ACTUALLY WALKED THROUGH ADDITIONAL SUBSTANCE PROCESS AND ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT WITH THAT. I NEED TO GET BACK TO MY AGENDA. UM. HEY, DISCUSSION ITEMS. HEY, ANYTHING AT THIS TIME? COMMENTS FROM INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS WITH MR ROWLANDS FIRST. YES UM I WOULD

[COMMENTS OF INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS]

JUST LIKE TO CONGRATULATE MR EAGLE BOARD ALSO SAY THAT WITH REGARDS TO THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN , IT HAD BEEN A LOT EASIER IF THESE WERE HOMES FOR SALE. I BELIEVE EVERYBODY WOULD BE ON BOARD, HOWEVER. HE DOES MEET OUR PLAN. SO, UM. I SOMETHING MAY HAPPEN. THESE MAY GO TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND GET SOLD . I DON'T KNOW, BUT WHERE WE'RE AT. I. I THINK IT ULTIMATELY IS A DECENT PLAN FOR THIS PROPERTY . DECENT LAYOUT. OKAY, MR PURPOSE. NO COMMENTS, MR FISHER.

THANK YOU. MR HUNTER. WELCOME JUST ON THE COMMENT ON THE VOTING AND THE SECOND AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT. UM I DO. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THIS PEARL TOWN MY DO RECALL THERE BEING MUCH DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY. AND AS I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS UNDERWAY OR PLANNED TO BE UNDERWAY AND FINISHED PRIVATE TIME, THIS WOULD BE DEVELOPMENT WOULD OCCUR . UM THE QUALITY DESCRIBED IN TERMS OF LIKE THE EXTERIOR MATERIALS PLAN FOR THESE HOMES. UM YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT ON THIS TYPE OF HOME AND I DID TRY IN MY VOTE NOT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, UM, HOMEOWNER VERSUS BUYER BASED ON THE REQUIREMENTS. AND THAT WE WERE EVALUATING THE PLAN AGAINST SO THANK YOU, MR STILYAN. NO COMMENT, SIR. MR ANGLE. I'VE GOT NOTHING. THAT WAS MY FIRST EXPERIENCE APPEAR. SO THANK YOU,

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EVERYBODY, AND, UH, I WILL REITERATE. WELCOME THANK YOU. GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD AND WE DO APPRECIATE THE PRESIDENT. COMMENTS ARE SAYING WE DO. LISTEN TO THEM. WE TAKE THEM INTO ACCOUNT. UM AND THAT IS ALL I GOT. SO DO WE HAVE A MISSION TO ADJOURN? ALL RIGHT? UH HUH.

ALL IN FAVOR. I THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

May 02, 2023 Planning Commission

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