Jun 26, 2023 City Council

[CALL TO ORDER]

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EVERYBODY. WE WELCOME YOU TO TONIGHT'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING. YEAH I'M SURE. WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE IN THE BACK WITH THE BIG SMELL LOOKING AT THE GAME COMING DOWN. IS THIS WHAT YOU ALWAYS REFERRED TO AS A MILLION DOLLAR RAIN? IS THAT YEAH, I'M I'M HAPPY THAT IT'S HELPING THE WHOLE COMMUNITY WHEN IT RAINS LIKE THAT, SO ANYWAY, WE CALL TONIGHT'S MEETING TO ORDER BE ABLE TO PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. AND IF YOU DON'T REMAIN STANDING BUT INVOCATION PLACE. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. STANDS. FOR JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALMIGHTY GOD, WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MANAGE VILLE AND ITS CITIZENS. AMEN. LOCAL POLICE. ALAN SEYMOUR, DEBORAH GROW DONALD BERGER. THANK KIRBY JR. ROUSH CREAMS AND AARON CARPENTER JUST TEXTED ME. HE WILL BE HERE MOMENTARILY. THANK

[ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]

IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU TONIGHT. AH A COUPLE OF THINGS WE GOTTA ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT TO PROVIDE YOU AND THEN AT THE END OF IT, KAREN MILLEN WILL ALSO BE PROVIDING A TOURISM UPDATES. SO WE'RE GONNA DO A COUPLE THINGS HERE SO FIRST OFF CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED NEXT TUESDAY FOR THE JULY TO OBSERVE DIE FOURTH HOLIDAY OF INDEPENDENCE DAY. AND SO JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO KNOW THE CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON THAT DAY. THE INDEPENDENCE DAY PARADE WILL BE HELD AGAIN ON JULY 4TH PARADE BEGINS AT 10, A.M. AND AMERICAN LEGION PARK AND THE PARADE WILL TRAVEL EAST ON FIFTH STREET SOUTHBOUND PLUM , THEN TURN WEST ON SIXTH STREET TO SOUTH COURT STREET. IT IS PRESENTED BY THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 79 THEN LATER ON IN THE EVENING, FIREWORKS WILL BE HELD AT THE UNION COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS AT DUSK, SO HOPEFULLY WE GET GOOD WEATHER FOR THAT EVENT, ANOTHER EVENT COMING UP REALLY SOON AGAIN IS OUR NEXT UPTOWN FRIDAY NIGHT EVENT, WHICH WE'RE CALLING THE ROUTE FOR FARM TOUR UPTOWN FRIDAY NIGHT EVENT, IT'S JULY 7TH. FROM 6 TO 10 P.M. IT'S A BATTLE OF THE BANDS FINALS, AND THE EVENT IS PRESENTED BY THE RALPH FOUR FARM TOUR, SO IT'LL BE FUN EVENT. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COUPLE OF GUESTS THAT NIGHT AS SURPRISE GAS. I WON'T EVEN SAY WHO THEY ARE THAT WILL BE ROAMING AROUND THE UPTOWN FRIDAY NIGHT AREA, BUT YOU JUST HAVE TO BE THERE TO CHECK AND SEE WHO IT IS. SO WITH THAT WE'LL SHIFT MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS WHO'S GOT IT ACTUALLY IS ME. THANK YOU. UM FOR AN UPDATE ON MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, UM STREETS, CREWS CONTINUE TO WORK ON STORM SEWER WORK ON SHERWOOD, ALONG WITH VARIOUS CONCRETE REPLACEMENTS AROUND THE CITY. UM AS FAR AS PARKS JIM SIMONS TRAIL MAINTENANCE IS ONGOING, AND WE ALSO HAVE THE URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN. UM WORKING THROUGH THAT AND WE ARE CURRENTLY MEETING WITH STAFF THIS WEEK ON THAT PROJECT. AND THEN AS FAR AS ENGINEERING, I WILL ALSO COVER THOSE FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE PAVING PROGRAM, WORKING THROUGH CURB RAMP AND CURB REPAIR. CONTINUING THIS WEEK FOR THE EAST FOURTH STREET BRIDGE REPLACEMENT. THIS IS ALL WEATHER DEPENDENT, BUT OUR CONTRACTOR PLANS TO COMPLETE THE PAVING WORK THIS WEEK AND THEN ELWOOD AVENUE, ROADWAY, RECONSTRUCTION OR CONTRACTOR WILL BEGIN STORM SEWER WORK THIS WEEK AND THE SOUTH BONG LANE WILL REMAIN CLOSED DURING THE FIRST PHASE. OF THE PROJECT. AND THEN THE LAST ONE FOR THE UPDATE IS A RESERVOIR CONNECTOR BRIDGE AND THE CONTRACTOR CONTINUES CONSTRUCTION OF THE BOARDWALK THIS WEEK, AND THOSE ARE THE UPDATES FOR ENGINEERING. AND IF I COULD, I'D LIKE TO ASK IF KAREN ELLEN COULD, UH, UPDATE US NOW ON THE TOURISM UPDATE, KAREN AND OUT. OKAY. THE COUNCIL. VERY ANGRY GETTING IT. RECOGNIZE HANDOUTS COLD, BUT IF YOU WANT TAKE ONE OF EVERYTHING YOUR HANDS DOWN. IN CHATTING ABOUT. OKAY SO AGAIN, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL AND THE CITY

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SUBMITTING THIS TO USA BMX AND OUR DESIRE AND WORKING WITH CHAD AND MELISSA AND CITY LEADERSHIP TO GET A NATIONAL EVENT IN 2024 . WE TRULY BELIEVE THIS IS OUR YEAR. LAST YEAR WE LOST IN THE FINAL NEGOTIATIONS TO HAGERSTOWN , MARYLAND, AND THAT WAS ONLY BECAUSE THEY HAD SUBMITTED SEVERAL TIMES MORE THAN WE DID THEY IN USA BMX FELT LIKE IT WAS THEIR TURN. SO I WANTED TO SHARE THAT PROPOSAL. JUST SO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE WHAT GOES INTO WHAT? WE'RE PROMISING WHAT WE HOPE THAT WILL BE ABLE TO DELIVER WHEN THEY CHOOSE MARYSVILLE AND 2024. WE ARE PARTNERING WITH DUBLIN. WE'RE PARTNERED WITH DUBLIN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HOTEL ROOMS TO HOST THE EVENT ON OUR OWN. AND THAT'S OUR SECOND YEAR, UH, WORKING WITH DUBLIN.

EVEN WITH THEIR HOTEL ROOMS. IT'S STILL WE'RE STILL, UM NOT QUITE WHERE THEY WANT US TO BE BECAUSE THAT SPORT CONTINUES TO GROW. WE WORK WITH STATEWIDE CONSORTIUM AND WE HAD A NATIONAL PRESENCE FOR ALL THE SPORTS PRODUCT IN UNION COUNTY AT SPORTS EACH A SYMPOSIUM IN KANSAS CITY IN MAY. I'VE BEEN VERY BUSY WITH OUR WHAT WE CALL EXPERIENTIAL AND SPECIAL EVENTS.

THE COVERED BRIDGE TRAIL, WHICH WE LAUNCHED LAST YEAR. REALLY WE CLOSED IT DOWN AND WORKING WITH OUR VENDOR AND THEN RE LAUNCHED IN APRIL. 28TH WE HAVE 35 STOPS . THOSE ARE THE BRIDGES, THE MURAL AND ALL RESTAURANTS AND WINERIES AND BREWERIES THAT OFFER BRIDGE THEMED CUISINE OR COCKTAILS. SO FAR SINCE APRIL, 28TH. WE'VE HAD 303 FREE PASS SIGN UPS AND 2200 SORRY. 208 CHECK INS, AND I THINK WE'RE UP TO, UM 12 DIFFERENT STATES THAT HAVE COME TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS NATURALLY CRAFTED PASSED. THIS IS AGAIN MOVING ON WITH OUR BRAND. WE HAVE DESIGNED A TRAIL.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE CALLING IT A PASS? THAT CELEBRATES ALL THINGS NATURALLY CRAFTED ANYTHING FROM WINERIES AND BREWERIES TO FARM STANDS AND FARMERS MARKETS AND HOPEFULLY MAYBE HONDA HERITAGE CENTER. IT CAN GO. THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF OPPORTUNITIES OF GROWTH WITH THAT IT LAUNCHES THIS THURSDAY. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 25 STOPS THAT ARE LIVE IN OUR TEST MODEL AND THEN 11 MORE THAT ARE PENDING. SO I THINK THAT WILL JUST CONTINUE TO GROW. UM, IT WILL GO THROUGH, UM, THE END OF DECEMBER SO WE CAN BE ABLE TO GET CHRISTMAS TREE FARMS AND THAT KIND OF THING, SO IT CONTINUES THROUGH THE HOLIDAYS. SEASON. ALONG WITH OUR LOCAL DISTRIBUTION THAT THE PROMOTIONAL RACK PROMOTIONAL RATE CARD THAT YOU HAVE. WE ARE DISTRIBUTING IT TO THE 15 TRAVEL INFORMATION CENTERS ACROSS OHIO . SO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT KIND OF RETURN WE HAVE ON THAT WORK SITE ABOUT THAT MUSIC MACHINE TRAIL HAS RETURNED FOR ITS THIRD SEASON. UH AND WE'VE GOT SEVEN STOPS THAT'S WILDLY POPULAR. WE ARE WORKING WITH DC DAVID REMY IN DC REMY PIANO COMPANY. TO DO

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EVERYTHING IS LOCALLY SOURCED. UH FOR THE LUNCH. MOST OF IT IS LOCALLY SOURCED SOME OF ITS LOCAL SOURCES IN OHIO FROM A REGION AND OUR SPONSORSHIP SUPPORT FROM LAST YEAR IS HAS INCREASED 52% WHICH TELLS US THAT OUR SPONSORS FEEL LIKE THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

HOPEFULLY, THAT WILL GROW BECAUSE IT'S EXPENSIVE EVENT TO PUT ON UNION STATION CONTINUES TO GROW. WE HAVE, UM WE HAD THROUGH MAY, UH, 1966 VISITORS THAT'S 40% UP OVER LAST YEAR, AND THEN OUR SALES ARE A LITTLE OVER 16,000, WHICH IS 24% OVER LAST YEAR THAT SUPPORTS 52, PLUS LOCAL AND REGIONAL VENDORS, AND OUR E NEWSLETTER, READS JUST ABOUT THE STORE ALONE 54% OPEN RATE. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TOURISM IMPACT BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KEEP WORKING TOWARDS US. PUTTING HEADS IN BEDS, AND THAT'S OUR JOB. THAT'S OUR ROLE IS TO ECONOMIC IMPACT UNION COUNTY SO I WANTED TO SHARE ACCORDING TO SO IN YOUR HANDOUTS. THERE'S A IT'S KIND OF A SMALL PRINT. IT'S A LANDSCAPE DOCUMENT WITH A HIGHLIGHT ON THAT'S A MONTHLY REPORT THAT WE GET FROM SMITH TRAVEL RESEARCH, AND IT SHOWS US THAT OUR OCCUPANCY AH IS CURRENTLY UM AT 64% WHICH IS UP 11% ALMOST 12% YEAR OVER YEAR AND WE COMPARE OURSELVES TO WHAT WE CALL OUR COPS SET AND THAT CONCEPT YOU'LL SEE IS OHIO. IT'S DUBLIN. I TO 70 WEST MARY IN DELAWARE AND CLARK AND MARK HELPED US PICK THAT OUT. THANK YOU, MARK AND WE ARE PERFORMING ISSUE. SEE WE ARE OUTPACING EVEN OHIO IN OUR OCCUPANCY ARE AVERAGE DAILY RATE. THAT'S WHAT THE R STANDS FOR IS AT $99. IT'S UP ALMOST 11% YEAR OVER YEAR AND WE'RE NUMBER FOUR IN THE CAMP SET, AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO WATCH AS WELL. YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE GETTING AS IT RELATES TO THE AVERAGE DAILY RATE FOR OUR PROPERTIES, AND THAT CONTINUES TO CLIMB BECAUSE OUR OCCUPANCY IS HIGH? I'VE ALSO INCLUDED INFORMATION ON SHORT TERM RENTALS. LAST TIME WE TALKED IN JANUARY. I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY REYNOLDS WE HAVE, BUT WE HAVE 29 SHORT TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES IN UNION COUNTY. 26 OF THOSE ARE ON AIRBNB. THREE OF THOSE ARE ON B . R B O AND THE AVERAGE DAILY RATE FOR THAT IS 140. YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT'S ABOVE RIGHT NOW, COLLECTIVELY WITH OUR HOTELS ARE COLLECTING EARLY 47% YEAR OVER YEAR. UM OCCUPANCY IS UP 5% YEAR OVER YEAR AND REVENUE PROJECTIONS, WHICH IS THAT NEXT YEAR YOU HAVE THAT'S THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS THAT ARE FOR LACK BETTER WORDS ON THE BOOKS. PEOPLE HAVE BOOKED ALREADY. SOME OF IT'S WHAT WE CALL CONSUMED MEANING JANUARY, OBVIOUSLY, THROUGH JUNE 24TH FIFTH, THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN HERE, SO THAT'S THE REVENUE PROJECTION THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR NOW, OBVIOUSLY, AS WE MOVE THROUGH JULY THROUGH DECEMBER. THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO CLIMB, SO WE ARE ALREADY AT 97% REVENUE GENERATION THROUGH SHORT TERM RENTALS YEAR EVERY YEAR. AND SO THIS IS MY COMMERCIAL, SO WE WOULD LIKE TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD. WE'VE GOT TWO OF OUR HOTELIERS, MAYBE MORE IN THE ROOM. AND SO WE WANT PARITY. WE WANT OUR HOTELS NOT ONLY PAY SALES TAX THEY PAY LODGING TAX. AND OUR NEXT STEP TO AFFECT CHANGE. NOT THAT WE CAN MAKE ANY MAJOR DECISIONS RIGHT NOW IS TO POTENTIALLY CHANGE THE LODGING TAX ORDINANCE LANGUAGE TO MOVE IT FROM ONLY DECLARING IT AS HOTELS AND MOTELS TO LODGING OR ACCOMMODATIONS. AND THEN WHAT NOW READS AS FIVE ROOMS OR MORE TO ONE ROOM OR MORE SO THAT IF WE CHANGE THAT LANGUAGE, THEN WE'RE READY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. DO WE WANT TO START COLLECTING LODGING TAX FROM THESE PROPERTIES AND AS THIS CONTINUES TO GROW BECAUSE THE OCCUPANCY IN OUR HOTELS IS SO HIGH, IT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE SERIOUSLY AND OUR COUNTERPARTS ACROSS THE STATE. THERE ARE SOME WHO HAVE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME. THINK HOCKING HILLS AND OTHERS THAT ARE RIGHT THERE, ALONG WITH US WORKING ON CHANGING THE LANGUAGE, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE NEXT STEP FOR US AS IT RELATES TO THAT, BUT WE'VE GOT A ANOTHER PROPERTY COMING ONLINE EVOLVED HOTELS HAS BEEN WORKING WITH YOU FOR THE TOWN PLACE, SWEETS THAT'S SLATED TO OPEN AND THAT WILL OBVIOUSLY CONTINUE TO HELP MEET THE DEMAND THAT'S OUT THERE. SHORT AND SWEET. HOPEFULLY ANY QUESTIONS ANYTHING THAT I CAN ANSWER ANY WAY THEY CAN BETTER? WE CAN BETTER SERVE . YOU DO THE WORK THAT WE DO ANY

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UM, AND SO KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER MARRIOTT PROPERTY COME ON ONLINE WITH CHAMPIONS SWEETS IS REALLY GOOD NEWS. MHM OKAY, QUESTIONS. I JUST I JUST HAD ONE. YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW DEEP YOUR QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO GO. BUT I'M GLAD THAT HE BROUGHT THOSE QUESTIONS UP BECAUSE AS A AS A ANOTHER COMPLIMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU KNOW, ARE COMING IN HERE AND LET'S SAY THEY WORK AT HONDA AND THEY WORK ON THE RAILROAD, BUT THEY'RE STAYING FOR A WEEK. I WOULD LIKE TO REALLY SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF NUMBERS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE REALLY STAYING IN A HOTEL WEEKLY TO SOMEBODY STAYING JUST FOR THE WEEKEND TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE HOTELS AND YOU KNOW, REALLY, AS AS AS MUCH AS WE CAN FINE DATA SURE LEARN TO EDUCATE MYSELF. YOU KNOW HOW BIG OF A NEED. YEAH WELL, THE SMITH TRAVELER TO, I GUESS SORRY, DON'T MEAN TO LET'S SAY IF YOU KNOW YOU BRING YOU BRING UP DUBLIN COMPARED TO WHAT DUBLIN DOES WHAT THESE KIND OF BECAUSE YOU KNOW, DUBLIN. THEY DO HAVE A LOT MORE OF HEADQUARTERS THAN WE DO. SO YOU KNOW, HOW DO THEY HANDLE AT WHAT'S WHAT'S THEIR HOTEL RIGHT? SO HAVE A COMPARISON. TO YOU KNOW, HAD REAL DATA THAT SHOWS. YEAH, WELL, UM, THE DATA IN FRONT OF YOU FROM SMITH TRAVEL RESEARCH. THAT'S OUR MONTHLY REPORT. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, MINUTES AGGREGATE NUMBERS. WE DON'T BREAK DOWN BY PROPERTY AND IT DOESN'T BREAK DOWN BY MARKET SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF CONTRACT BUSINESS. THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF TOURNAMENT BUSINESS. WE JUST HAVE A AGGREGATE NUMBER TO LOOK AT. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT DATA FOR THE MONTH, OUR OCCUPANCY IS OUTPACING ALL OF DUBLIN AND THAT TO 70 AREA, SO THAT TELLS US THAT THAT THAT THERE'S THINGS WORKING HERE. THERE'S THINGS WORKING IN DUBLIN AS WELL, AND THAT'S A DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER DAY AS IT RELATES TO SOME OF THE AMENITIES AND OFFERINGS THAT ARE

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BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE WEEKDAY BUSINESS MIGHT BE SO WE CAN WORK WITH THAT COMMITTEE. TRY TO GET YOU SOME OF THOSE ANSWERS FOR SURE. IF I COULD JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. JUST ONE MORE QUESTION. COULD YOU BACK UP TO ALL THE BANNERS? UM, THAT YOU FOR THE SIGNAGE. RIGHT THERE.

THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP ABOUT THIS SINCE SINCE ALL OF COUNCILS IN THE ROOM AND WE'VE ALL TALKED AND EVERYONE KNOWS HOW HARD I TALKED ABOUT COMMUNITY IDENTITY, COMMUNITY IDENTITY, WHICH YOU SEE ABOUT UNION COUNTY AS THEY USE THE BRIDGES. JEROME TOWNSHIP USES THE MONUMENT. RICHWOOD BANK USES THEIR TOWN CLOCK. PLAIN CITY USES THEIR CLOCK ON THE SQUARE AND MARYSVILLE USES OUR LOGO. THEY THE ONLY ISSUE THAT I HAD. AND I HAD WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS THAT RIGHT NOW THAT LOGO IS OUR LOGO. BUT IN 20 YEARS THAT MIGHT NOT BE OUR LOGO. AND MARYSVILLE STILL STRUGGLES WITH AN IDENTITY IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF TALKS ABOUT SMALL TOWN AGRICULTURE. WHAT? WHO ARE WE? AND WHAT IS WHAT DO WE TAKE AS PRIDE IN OURSELVES AS A COMMUNITY, AND I THINK THAT ALL I WANT ALL I AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE CRITICAL WITH ANYBODY, BUT I JUST WANT I JUST WANTED ALL A COUNCIL TO LOOK AT THAT AND THE SEA. EVERY COMMUNITY HAS AN IDENTITY. MARYSVILLE HAS A LOGO. AND THOSE ARE MY THAT'S JUST ONE OF MY STRESS IS MOVING FORWARD AS A COMMUNITY, SO, BUT THANK YOU, KAREN. TOM. THANK YOU. MR PRESIDENT. I HAD HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS REAL QUICK IF I COULD HAVE KAREN ON THAT TOPIC WHEN YOU BROUGHT THE CONSULTANT IN AND HE LOOKED AT THE BRANDING OF MARYSVILLE. WHAT WHAT DID HE SAY? ABOUT WHAT? HOW WE'VE POSITIONED OURSELVES. UM WELL, UM, WE'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT. UM TWO DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ONE IS OUR BRANDING CONSULTANT THAT GOD TO, UM THE NATURALLY CRAFTED TALKED ABOUT YOU KNOW WHO WE ARE COLLECTIVELY AS A COUNTY AND THEN THE OTHER CONSULTANT IS MERGE. WHO DOES THE DESIGNS AND SO, UM, I WAS IN AND THEY WERE. THEY WERE REALLY IT'S BASICALLY IT'S UP TO THE COMMUNITY TO SHARE WITH THAT IDENTITY IS I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THAT WE DO HAVE TIME BECAUSE THIS IS THAT THAT THAT VINYL IS THE VERY LAST THING THAT WILL BE APPLIED AND JEROME TOWNSHIP HAS BEEN WORKING TOWARDS NOT SURE WHERE THEY ARE ON THAT. TOWARDS THE BRANDING INITIATIVE AS WELL. UM SO REALLY , IT WAS COLLECTIVELY WHATEVER THAT COMMUNITY FELT WAS, UM, YOU KNOW THE BEST REPRESENTATION OF WHO THEY ARE COLLECTIVELY, AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING IT WE'RE OPEN TO SOMETHING ELSE. WE'VE JUST PLACE THAT ON SO MANY ITEMS AROUND AND THEY WERE VERY COMPLIMENTARY ON THE FACT THAT WE HAD THAT ATTACHED IN AND AROUND THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? SECONDLY JUST A QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S COME UP. IT'S COME UP. WE'VE GOT SOME LEGISLATION ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. WHAT'S YOUR FEELING ABOUT HAVING HOTELS? IN ONE AREA OF YOUR COMMUNITY ARE ARE YOU BETTER OFF , MAYBE HAVING THEM DISPERSED IN VARIOUS AREAS, IF YOU COMMUNITY AS AS YOU GROW ABSOLUTELY. WELL I THINK YOU KNOW YOU KNOW HOW FAST WE'RE GROWING. YOU KNOW, AS A COUNTY, UM AND THE NEEDS AND DEMANDS ARE NOT JUST CENTRAL TO ONE AREA. YOU KNOW THE NEEDS AND DEMANDS GO BEYOND YOU KNOW, ONE PARTICULAR AREA SO ABSOLUTELY DON'T KNOW ESPECIALLY WITH YOU KNOW, WITH HONDA AND ANOTHER.

ENTITIES THAT ARE LOOKING FOR WORK WORKFORCE. I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO HOP ON 33 AND GET TO WORK AND THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO HOP ON. YOU KNOW, 33 AND GO ELSEWHERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE'RE WE'RE REALLY, REALLY GROWING, AND THERE'S A THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER INITIATIVES, UM, THAT THAT WE KNOW ARE UP FOR CONSIDERATION FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND JUST LIKE ANY OTHER COMMUNITY THAT YOU CAN THINK OF . THERE ARE PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY SO THAT

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OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT CONCLUDES OUR ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT. THANK YOU

[PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT]

[DESIGN REVIEW BOARD REPORT]

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[HEARING OF CITIZENS]

[Res. A]

VIA YOUR REGULAR CITY ZONING PROCEDURES, SO THAT WILL BE CERTAINLY THE CASE IN THIS IT DOES CREATE GENERAL EXPECTATIONS FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING SCHEDULES. POSSIBLE LAND USES.

INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING AND USE OF FINANCE MECHANISMS, BUT ALL ARE SUBJECT TO SEPARATE AND FINAL COUNCIL LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION OF DETAILS. TYPICALLY THIS PROVIDES FOR A LANDOWNER DETACHMENT RIGHTS. ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT GOALS ARE NOT MET. SO I YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING EXACTLY. THAT'S REALLY COME BEFORE US A LOT. USUALLY IT'S BOOM. HERE'S AN ANNEXATION. BUT I'D LIKE TO BRING MR BARRICK UP TO SEE IF HE HAS ANYTHING TO ADD. OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM, UH, ON THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION MAY JUST ONE QUICK CLARIFICATION. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SORRY. UM. WHAT A PRE TAXATION AGREEMENT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE

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UM BUT IT IT ALLOWS FOR TALKING POINTS TO BE STARTED TONIGHT AND THAT GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE ANNEXATION AS IT GOES THROUGH, AND THAT ANNEXATION PROCESS IS USUALLY A 4 TO 6 MONTH PROCESS, DEPENDING ON SCHEDULES. UM. SO AS TERRY A LOT OF THIS, THIS IS BETWEEN THE CITY. THE LANDOWNERS AND THE DEVELOPER FROM A DEVELOPER STANDPOINT, I AM IN CONTRACT WITH CERTAIN PIECES OF GROUND THERE. SO THEREFORE IN THOSE CONTRACTS, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO PURCHASE THE GROUND UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS. ONE OF THEM IS PRE ANNEXATION TO IS UTILITIES AND THREE A CERTAIN ZONING REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE THE ANNEXATION USUALLY STARTS AND THE ZONING IS NOT DONE. UM THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE FOR THE LANDOWNER IS THE BOTTOM PIECE, AND THAT IS ALLOWING THE DETACHMENT. IF THINGS WERE NOT GO THE RIGHT WAYS TO DETERMINE THE RIGHT WAYS. THAT IS A PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO UNDERTAKE HERE IN THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS, BUT ESSENTIALLY , IT'S AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE LANDOWNERS AND THE DEVELOPER. UM, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A STATEMENT OF SERVICES. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE AND THE COUNTY WANTS TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS CAN SERVICE IT ARE WILLING TO SERVICE IT. UM, AND IT ESTABLISHES THAT ROAD MAP OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS AND COME TO FURTHER AGREEMENTS ON LAND USE ZONING AND INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. THE BENEFITS OF THIS. IT'S LONG TERM, SO 800 ACRES ON THE WEST OR ON THE EAST SIDE. UM IT'S A LONG TERM PLAN AND THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO REALIZE YOU GUYS ARE MAKING SOME SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE EAST SIDE. UM IT'S NOT ALL GOING TO GROW. IT'S ALL NOT GOING TO ZONE HERE NEXT AND IN 11 PIECE, UM BY BRINGING IN PARCELS, AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE DONE FOR 15 YEARS, I RAN YOUR OWN VILLAGE FOR NATIONWIDE. IN SOUTHERN UNION COUNTY, AND THAT WAS A MASTER PLAN HAD ALL KINDS OF FINANCIAL MECHANISMS, ETCETERA ONE AND PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT IS THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY, WHICH ISN'T A VERY FAMILIAR FINANCIAL AGREEMENT PIECE THAT'S BEEN USED IN MARYSVILLE. AND THE REASON BEING IS THAT YOU'VE NEVER REALLY HAD LARGE MASTER PLAN TO AREAS THAT AFFORD A TOOL LIKE A COMMUNITY AUTHORITY TO BE YOURS. UM BUT IN THIS CASE, UM FROM A STRATEGIC MASTER PLAN STANDPOINT, WE CAN COME THROUGH AND PLAN LARGER TRACTS OF GROUND VERSUS WHAT I CALL PIECEMEAL DEVELOPMENT IN PIECEMEAL DEVELOPMENT IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU GUYS SEE ALL THE TIME AND THE REASON BEING IS, DEVELOPERS WILL GRAB 70 TO 100 ACRE PARCELS, AND THEY WILL COME THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS AND EVEN MAYBE THE ANNEXATION PROCESS AND BECAUSE YOU'RE DEALING WITH ONE LANDLORD THEY CAN MAKE SOME COMMITMENTS AND DON'T NECESSARILY NEED A PRE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH A WHOLE BUNCH OF FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT, UM, WHEN YOU CAN SIT DOWN AND MASTER PLAN LARGER AREAS, YOU GET THE BUZZ WORDS YOU TRULY GET THE BUZZWORDS SMART GROWTH. YOU GET CONNECTED COMMUNITIES, YOU CAN SAVE IMPORTANT TREE LINES AND SOME OF THE NATURAL FEATURES AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID AT JEROME VILLAGE IS WE BUILT THE CORNFIELDS, AND WE'RE ABLE TO PROTECT IT IF YOU CARVED OFF THOSE, AND IT WAS A DIFFERENT

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ANYBODY WANTS TO START? SUCH QUESTIONS, IDEAS. WORDS TRACKS MASTER PLAN. APPLICATION IN ESSENCE. SENSE THAT REALLY CETERA. THE SUPPORT. EXCITED COMMUNITY WHERE OFFERS AND KNOWLEDGE. JUST. TO MY MIND. MASTER PLANNING IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT FIRE TOMORROW, OKAY? ALREADY THIS IS GOOD. DO YOU HAVE ANY DO, SIR, BUT I WOULD DEFER TO ANYBODY ELSE. FIRST BECAUSE OF THE SCIENCE WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S COMMENTS FIRST. OKAY ALREADY. MR BERGER. YOU KNOW, CHINESE SPACE PLANNING SCHOOL. WE TALK ABOUT MASTER PLANNING ALL THE TIME AND, UM, TO GO WITH ALLEN'S, YOU KNOW. IT'S. YOU KNOW FOR CITY LIKE MARY'S VOTE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE A LARGE MASTER PLAN IS VERY UNIQUE BECAUSE IT TAKES PEOPLE WITH VISION, HARD WORK AND DEDICATION TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, THE ONLY HESITATION THAT I HAVE STATED. IS THAT WHAT I DO NOT WANT TO SEE IS JUST A WHOLE BUNCH OF HOUSES IN THE LACK OF ECONOMIC GROWTH. THAT IS WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. WHAT I WOULD HOPE TO SEE IS THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT BRINGS THE ECONOMIC GROWTH THAT INNOVATION PARKWAY IS STILL STRUGGLING TO RECEIVE.

AND UM, THE LAST. THE OTHER THING I'LL SAY IS THAT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOUSING STOCK

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OKAY, ALREADY, MR ROCHE. AND ONE OTHER THING, TOO, IS TYPICALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LAND USE OR ZONING. IT GOES THROUGH THREE READINGS. THE REASON THIS IS ONLY A ONE READING IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT BINDING US. TO ANYTHING BY WAY OF ANNEXATION. WHEN THE PROPERTIES DO COME FOR ANNEXATION. IT WILL GO THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS OF THREE READINGS, PUBLIC INPUT, ETCETERA. SO WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH JUST ONE READING. BASICALLY ALL THIS IS DOING IS PUTTING DOWN TO WRITING WHAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR A YEAR AND A HALF AND KIND OF THE VISION IS TO WHERE WE WANT TO GET TO, UH AND AGAIN. I'M LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. I LOVE THE IDEA THAT WE'RE TAKING A LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND SAYING THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GROW FOR THE NEXT 2030 40 YEARS. AND PUTTING IT TOGETHER. WE'RE PUTTING IT TOGETHER UP FRONT.

IT'S GONNA GET PIECEMEAL ALONG THE WAY. YOU'RE NOT GONNA BUILD ALL 8 800 ACRES OVERNIGHT. UM BUT NOW WE KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE WHEN THE 800 ACRES IS DONE. 2030 YEARS FROM NOW, SO REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THIS WHOLE PROCESS. HEY. DIRECTLY CLEAR BECAUSE IT DOESN'T JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BECAUSE OF THE RESOLUTION. I DISAGREE, EXTENSION POSITIVE. YOU LOOK AT OUR CHARTER IN THE NEXT SECTION, 4.1. THIS IS A PRELIMINARY DECLARATION BASICALLY, LEGISLATIVE 10TH ESPECIALLY BY THE SUBSEQUENT PASSED IMPORTANT SO YOU KNOW ALL THE ALL THE MECHANISMS THAT ARE DISGUSTING UNIONIZATION AGREEMENT. COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL. HER. OKAY.

YESTERDAY AIMS. I AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT WE HEARD HERE TONIGHT ALREADY? I DON'T THINK I NEED TO SAY IT AGAIN. OKAY? ALREADY. IT'S A COPY THERE. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO SAY IS SOMEONE WHO IS RELATIVELY NEW TO THIS COUNCIL AND HASN'T REALLY SEEN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT PERHAPS MY COLLEAGUES UP YOUR HAS THIS GETS ME EXCITED FOR THE FUTURE OF MARY'S FILM. UM AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO ROCKFORD FOR YOUR TRANSPARENCY, FRANKLY, FOR SHOWING UP HERE AT THIS MEETING AND SAY, HERE'S WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT TO INCLUDE THIS THIS WILL COME BACK BEFORE YOU AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. JUST LAY IT ALL OUT IN THIS AGREEMENT. WHAT WE PLAN TO DO. THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE PLAN TO DEVELOP. I JUST APPRECIATE THE TRANSPARENCY AND THE YOU KNOW, SEEING THE VALUE IN THAT SIDE OF OUR TOWN AND WANTING TO DEVELOPMENT. I THINK IT'S A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITY, UM, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. I APPRECIATE THE TRANSPARENCY AND YOU KNOW, DOING THINGS THE RIGHT WAY BEFORE TO SEEING WORKING WITH ROCKFORD OVER THE COURSE THE NEXT HALF YEAR, SO TO PLAN STRATEGICALLY FOR THIS AREA. SO EXCITED THANK YOU. OKAY BEFORE I GO TO GIVE IT BACK TO YOU HAVE ONE COMMENT THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE, AND IT ALWAYS AMAZES ME HOW GOOD ATTORNEYS CAN BE. YEAH THEY PROBABLY GET PAID BY THE WORDS OR THE LETTER. BUT IF I IF I WHEN I GLANCED OVER THE FIRST TIME, I SAID, MY LORD, WHAT'S HAPPENING? YEAH THEN THEY LOOK OVER THE SECOND TIME THROUGH IT THE THIRD TIME. THEN IT CALLED TIM AND I SAID, HEY, TIM, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? FINALLY AFTER FIVE TIMES IT'S A DOCUMENTED AT THIS POINT , AS IT IS PRESENTED TO US.

GIVES US THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED HERE AND DOCUMENTED I CAN BE COMFORTABLE WITH. BUT HAVING SAID THAT, I'LL GIVE IT BACK TO YOU, MRS. CODE. THANK YOU, SIR. UM FIRST THINGS FIRST . UM WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT. THIS WILL DEFINITELY BE A P U D , WHICH WHICH MAKES ME FEEL MUCH BETTER DOWN. THE ROAD PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HAVE A CHUNK OF

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SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY, THE CITY DOESN'T MAKE THESE MOTIONS . IT IS THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY. THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO JOIN IN MARYSVILLE ON THE PEOPLE . WE WELCOME IN MARYSVILLE, BUT THIS IS NOT CITY. TAKING GRABBING LAND THAT ISN'T WHERE WE ARE. IT WON'T BE WHERE I AM. UM AND I JUST WANTED TO STRESS THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT CAN BE A VERY COMMON MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT CITY GRABBING LAND CITY JUST WANTS MONEY. UM, NO. THE CITY IS NOT COMMITTING MONEY TO THIS. IT WILL COMMIT SOME FINANCING OPTIONS. THE CITY DOES NOT WANT TO GRAB LAND. THESE ARE LANDOWNERS WHO ARE SAYING WE CAN MAXIMIZE OUR INVESTMENT. IN THIS WAY. WILL THE CITY HELP US? THAT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN MY HEART. UM, FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE HIM TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND AND THIS IS NOT HUGE, BUT THAT'S THE LANGUAGE PERSON. IT WAS, TOO. MAN'S SORRY, BERT. BUT I AM A LANGUAGE PERSON. IF YOU WOULD GO, UM TO 13. WAS IT PAGE 13.

YEAH THERE THERE IS PREPOSITIONAL PHRASE THAT I THINK EXTRANEOUS CONFUSING AND I DON'T LIKE IT. UM ON PAGE 13 IF I COULD MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND TO STRIKE THE PREPOSITIONAL PHRASE ON A PARI PASU OR EQUAL BASIS IF YOU PAGE 13 THE THIRD LINE DOWN. I DON'T KNOW, SWEETIE . OKAY YES. THAT REALLY IS COVERED. HELPED US OUT WITH THIS , AND IT WAS VERY, VERY WILLING TO WORK WITH THAT REALLY IS COVERED BY ALL OF WHICH THE LAST THE LAST CLAUSE OF THAT PARAGRAPH, ALL OF WHICH SHALL BE NEGOTIATED AND FINALIZED IN THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT AGREEMENT.

THEREFORE, THAT PREPOSITIONAL PHRASE ISN'T NECESSARY AND BECAUSE OF MY CONCERN WITH SOME OF THE LANGUAGE. I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY CONFUSING ON A PARI PASU OR EQUAL BASIS. I MOVED

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SPEAK TO ME IN THAT. AND THEN WE CAN THE MOTION SWORDS. OKAY SO THE CURRENTLY IS A MOTION IN THE TABLE TO CHANGE SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE IN THE DOCUMENT. ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENT ON THAT? ON IT ON NOT JUST ON THE AMENDMENT LEGISLATION ON OKAY. HAPPY YOUNG FOR 25 WEST EIGHT. I HAVE SAT THROUGH MANY, MANY MEETINGS AS YOU KNOW. AND I THINK THIS IS AWESOME. IT WASN'T TOO LONG AGO THAT DONALD WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT 100 ACRES WHEN THERE'S 400 ACRES THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. THIS IS AWESOME. THAT PART'S DOING THIS AND THAT WE HAVE YEARS TO LOOK AHEAD BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO GET DONE OVERNIGHT.

ALREADY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE IN OKAY? ALREADY. DID YOU? YOU HAD ONE MORE ITEM. PLEASE GO AHEAD. AND JUST A FEW THINGS, UM, DIVERSIFICATION.

ROCKFORD DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENTS IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN BOBBY YOAKUM PRESIDENT ROCKWOOD HOMES AND MYSELF. I DO MASTER PLANNING . HE DOES RESIDENTIAL HOUSING, BUT WE CAME TOGETHER WITH ROCKFORD DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENTS TO DO LARGER MASTER PLAN TO AREAS WHERE WE WOULD BRING IN A DIVERSIFICATION OF PRODUCT AND THAT'S THE WORD I WANTED TO USE WAS DIVERSIFICATION OF PRODUCT.

UM DIVERSIFICATION OF PRICE POINT, ETCETERA. SO TO ADDRESS DONALD'S CONCERNS, WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT FROM A DIVERSIFICATION STANDPOINT ACROSS THE BOARD, THE OTHER PIECES YOU'VE GOT SOME YOU'VE GOT AN AREA HERE THAT YOU HAVE FOUR VERY LARGE LANDOWNERS THAT CONTROL THIS GROUND. UM THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME OTHER PEOPLE THAT WOULD LOVE TO DO THIS. THAT BUT THEIR PRODUCT OF WHAT THEY DO IS VERY UNIQUE AND SPECIFIC APARTMENTS, RESIDENTIAL RETAIL, ETCETERA, BUT WE CAN MASTER PLAN IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A GREAT VALUE OVER THERE. AND YOU'VE GOT FOUR LANDOWNERS THAT ESSENTIALLY OWN A BIG BIG CHUNK OF THIS AND THAT IS A GREAT ASSET TO A CITY NORMALLY YOUR IF YOU TRY TO DO THIS WITH 50 LANDOWNERS, YOU NEVER DO IT. SO THOSE TWO PIECES AND FROM JR STANDPOINT, I TOOK EARLY RETIREMENT FOR NATIONWIDE A COUPLE YEARS AGO. I AM NOT WORKING ANOTHER 30 YEARS. SO I DO THINK THAT TIMEFRAME IS PROBABLY THAT 10 TO 15 TO 20 YEAR TIME FRAME. UH NOT NECESSARILY 30. I JUST EVEN BETTER. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY UNLESS YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY ANY ANY MORE QUESTIONS? OKAY MRS. GOT THE FLOOR IS YOURS TO MAKE YOUR EMOTIONS AMENDMENT. THE AMENDMENT MOTION ALREADY DID.

SHORTY DID? WE JUST NEED A ROLL CALL NOW? OKAY LOCAL POLICE AMENDMENT, MRS GROUP. YES, MR BERGER. YES, MR BURBEY. YES YES , MR REEMS. MR CARPENTER? YES MR SEYMOUR? YES SEVEN. YES MR PRESIDENT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDED LEGISLATION. OKAY LOCAL, PLEASE , MR BERGER? YES MR BURBEY? YES YES, MR REEMS. MR CARPENTER? YES, MR SEYMOUR. MRS GROPE? YES SEVEN. YES WONDERFUL. HEY, THERE TO TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THIS. ALREADY WE MOVE INTO THE PORTION

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OKAY TO APPROVE THIS APPROPRIATION ALREADY. THANK YOU, MR SEYMOUR. UM PLEASE, MR BURBEY? YES YES, MR CARPENTER. YES, MR SEYMOUR? YES MRS GROUP? YES MR BERGER. SEVEN. YES DIDN'T

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BESIDES SAFETY ACCESSIBILITY TO 33. ROOM COMFORT. AND FREE BREAKFAST, WHICH WE ALL LIKE.

THE NEXT UM, STATEMENTS. WE'RE ACCESSIBILITY TO SHOPPING AND RESTAURANTS FOR DINNER. WE HAVE A KROGER SHOPPING. A KROGER GROCERY STORE. RESTAURANTS WE ARE LACKING. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. BRINGING TO YOU THE SIDE OF THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD GO THERE. THANK YOU. OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION. AND NOW I BELIEVE THAT YOU MAY HAVE SOME FURTHER COMMENTS. YES. UM AND I'VE TALKED TO ASHLEY ON THIS IN THE UH, IT'S IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT. THE HEIGHT OF HOTELS. IS 80 40 FT. I BELIEVE IS THE ZONING ALLOWANCE? YES, SO RIGHT NOW, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE HOTELS DESIGNATED AND SED, WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC TYPOLOGY CHART FOR THAT. BUT IF YOU WERE IF WE CLASSIFIED IT UNDER A COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE, OR WE ALSO SHOW OFFICE WITHIN STD, BOTH OF THOSE COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE WOULD BE 40 PERMITTED AT 40 FT HEIGHT.

WHICH WOULD BE PROBABLY ABOUT THREE STORIES WITH THAT SAID I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THAT THAT THIS BE AMENDED TO HAVE A LESSER HEIGHT. BECAUSE OF THE ZONING DISTRICT. IT'S IN. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE 30 FT, OR WHATEVER THE NEXT LOWER STANDARD. AND OR CODE IS IT'S 30 FT IT OR 25, OR YEAH, WE COULD DO EITHER ONE WE CAN DO. 30 WOULD PROBABLY BE MAKE THE MOST SENSE. IF YOU WANTED TO REDUCE THAT. I THINK 40 FT STRUCTURE IN THOSE KINDS OF NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE. MHM. AND THAT'S MY VIEW. AND IF THERE WOULD BE CONSENSUS ON THAT, IT'S LIKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE OKAY? NO. WE OBVIOUSLY WE CAN MAKE THE AMENDMENT AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT WOULD REQUIRE SUCCESS. SPORTS SO I DON'T KNOW, JUST FOR COMMENT. INTERNATIONAL HUMAN EMOTIONS, EMOTIONS REPUTATION. QUESTIONS, FOLKS. OKAY SO IF YOU WOULD AMOUNT TO THEN IF WE WERE TO AGREE TO THAT HEIGHT AS A PART OF THE LEGISLATION THEN. IF IT WERE TO

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YEAH. YEAH I SAW THAT. NO, NO, I'VE GOT GOING DOWN. THERE'S YEAH, THAT MAP THAT, UH, JR IS HOLDING UP. THERE YOU GO. OKAY SO THIS IT'S MOSTLY, UM, KIND OF WEST SIDE AND THEN A LITTLE BIT IN THE NORTH AS WELL. YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE MORE TOWARDS THE SOUTH. BECAUSE THAT LITTLE CORNER OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BECAUSE FROM THAT'S ON COLLINS ON STATE, ROUTE FOUR AND COLLINS YEAH, WHICH IS A COST FROM THE WOMEN'S REFORMATORY THAT WOULD ALSO FALL INTO THAT SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL. THAT'S NOT IT. NO, THAT'S NOT WHY WE WERE. THE REQUEST IS TO BUILD A REQUEST TO BUILD IS ON WEST FOURTH STREET. OH YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. BEST FEAR, STEVE. I'M SORRY. YEAH. THE RECRUIT. THE REQUEST FOR THIS AMENDMENT IS FOR THAT IT GOES ALL ALL OF US CD THAT THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF US. SEE? WHEN AN APPLICANT IS READY. THEY CAN COME BACK FOR A SPECIFIC PARCEL , WHICH WOULD GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW. THEY GO THROUGH A LIST OF QUESTIONS TO MAKE SURE IT'S HARMONIOUS WITH THE SURROUNDING CHARACTER. THE NEIGHBORHOOD UM MAKE SURE IT MEETS KIND OF THE ZONING CODE REQUIREMENTS. SO THERE'S A LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT THEY USE WHEN REVIEWING THOSE APPLICATIONS. THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REDUCE IT TO 30 FT. AT THAT TIME. GOOD QUESTION. UM AND THE REASON I ASKED THAT IS SOME OF THESE SPOTS AND FINE WITH 40 FT . I UNDERSTAND WHAT ALAN IS SAYING, MAYBE WITH THAT SPECIFIC LOCATION, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL OF US. C D. YEP. THAT ONE SIZE FITS ALL AND ONE SIZE FITS ALL WHERE IF PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY, WHICH AND THE OTHER POINT TO THAT IS WE ARE NOT APPROVING. THE ONE REQUEST TONIGHT. THIS IS FOR ALL OF S C D AND THAT AND THAT WILL COME BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND PLANNING COMMISSION. YEAH, WE HAD THAT JOINT MEETING AND I THINK PLANNING COMMISSION NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT AT THAT TIME THAT WOULD NOT BE. JUST BE IF BOXES ARE CHECKED. IT'S OKAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE AUTHORITY IN THAT KIND OF A SITUATION CORRECT. YES, I AM. YES 24. HERE CAN SEE THESE ARE THE COUNTRIES. THANK YOU. REVIEW IN ORDER AND CENTERING APPLICATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMANENT. I THINK I GOT IT. YEAH, AND, UH, I THINK THE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS COMPLAINING THIS PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE YOUR 42 CONDITIONAL USE. AND

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YEAH MAYBE TWO STORIES IS ALL WE AS A COMMUNITY WANT. YOU KNOW IF IT'S IF THERE'S A BUNCH OF HOUSES RIGHT THERE THAT MIGHT GET LIMITED. BUT IF IT'S YOU KNOW OUT WHERE THE HEART OF OHIO IS THAT THAT'S THAT'S THE RISK. YEAH, THAT'S THE RISK BECAUSE IT AFFECTS IT ALL. QUESTION. OKAY? YES, MA'AM. THIS IS ASKING FOR MISS GAVE HER AND THE GROUP. WHEN THIS SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WAS PUT TOGETHER. YOU'VE RECENTLY REFORMED AND CHANGED AND THAT'S GREAT. WHAT WAS YOUR THINKING? YOU LEFT OUT. THE EXTENDED STAY HOTELS. AS A CONDITIONAL OR WHATEVER. WHAT WAS YOUR THINKING IN THAT? HOW DOES THAT FIT BECAUSE THERE ARE . SEVERAL SEVERAL SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS THAT YOU MUST HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING AS A GROUP. YES SO A LOT OF THESE PARCELS AREN'T GOING TO FIT A HOTEL. THERE'S JUST A FEW REMAINING, UM, THAT WOULD EVEN FIT THE HOTEL SIZE SO LIKE, NOT MANY OF THEM AROUND THAT MIDDLE VALLEY AREA WOULD EVEN FIT THE HOTEL. UM NOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF REDEVELOPMENT KIND OF AROUND THE KROGER SITE WITH VISION COMING IN, UM CHIPOTLE COMING OUT FRONT OF KROGER, AS WELL AS NEW STARBUCKS. MULTI TENANT BUILDING. UM ANOTHER MCDONALD'S , SO THERE'S A LOT MORE, UH, AMENITIES THAT WOULD GO ALONG WITH THAT HOTEL. IN ADDITION TO KIND OF THE KROGER THAT'S THERE , THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE EXTENDED STAY FOR PEOPLE WALKING OVER THERE. UM SO AT THE TIME WHEN WE DID THAT ZONING CODE, I DON'T THINK HOTELS WEREN'T NECESSARILY ON AS KEY OF A USE FOR THE SCB. BUT I GUESS MY FOLLOW UP WOULD BE AT THE TIME YOU DIDN'T WANT TO NOT INCLUDE THEM. THEY JUST DIDN'T FIT WHAT YOU WERE INCLUDING CORRECT. OKAY? OKAY? YES, SIR. SWEETS PARTS OF IT THAT'S ON OVER BACK HOMES ANYMORE. THAT'S OUR EMU. THAT'S REGIONAL MIXED JUICE. YEAH. AND THAT IS THAT ALSO, WHAT COOKS POINT IS COOK'S POINT IS, UM A P U D THAT'S RIGHT. IT IS. OKAY? SO GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD . ONE OTHER QUESTION. WHY DID WE NOT INCLUDE HOTELS AND EXTENDED STAY HOTEL? WHY THAT WAS THE APPLICATION PULLED OUT. THAT WAS A DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER THAT BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. UM MISS VERBS FELT THOUGH THAT EXTENDED STAY FIT BETTER WITH THIS PARTICULAR. AREA KIND OF AROUND KROGER AND I GUESS GENERALLY AS A WHOLE OF S C D THAT EXTENDED STATE WAS MORE APPROPRIATE. SO IN OUR HEAD, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. NOW THIS IS STATED UNDER NEIGHBORHOOD MIX USE RIGHT? AND YOU'RE CHANGING IT. LET ME PULL, LET ME PULL APART OR WHAT'S THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN? IT'S NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE

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C D. THAT REFERS TO THAT. YEAH AND IF I CAN ADD THIS IS FROM THE UH, ZONING COMMISSION PLANNING COMMISSIONS BOARD MEMBER THAT INITIATED THIS CHANGE REQUEST PER HER COMMENTS WERE IS THAT THE S C D S INTENT IS TO PROVIDE A MIX OF USES AND CLOSE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL FORMS OF SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENT. AND HER PROPOSAL FOR EXTENDED STAY WAS GEARED TOWARDS EXTENDED STAYS AS A FORM OF SHORT TERM RESIDENTIAL NOT NECESSARILY AS A NEW USE IN THE INTENSE MIX ABUSES, AND THAT IS WHY THEY WENT WITH EXTENDED STAY HOTELS ONLY, AND NOT REGULAR HOTELS AS WELL. THERE'S ONE OF THOSE LET YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT THEY'RE WHAT THE BOARD MEMBERS INTENT WAS THANK YOU. YES, MR CARPENTER AND THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION. FOR ALL THE INFORMATION YOU SUPPORTED THIS LEGISLATION WITH , I GUESS IF I WERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF AWARD ONE IF YOU LOOK AT THE AREA UP THERE IN FRONT OF THE VALLEY UM, IF AN EXTENDED STAY HOTEL WORK TO GO UP THERE,

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YEAH, OKAY. ALREADY SO DO WE HAVE ANY MORE? CONVERSATION ON THIS, SO AT THIS POINT IS A QUESTION TO MY VIEW IF IT WOULD PASS. I WOULD. I WOULD DESIRE THAT THEY HAVE A HEIGHT LIMITATION OF 30. 30 FT. MHM. I CAN MAKE. YOU CAN EAT THAT EMOTION OR YOU CAN MAKE THAT MOTION TO AMEND IT TO 30. FT THAT IS, THAT IS THAT IS THE AMENDMENT AND THEN BE SO THAT'S SO THAT IS YOUR MOTION. OKAY MR MACKENZIE, DO YOU NEED MORE? IF NOT, THEN WE COULD DO A LOCAL.

SO I GUESS I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE AREA. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC SITE HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP. I AGREE WITH WHAT WE'RE SAYING ABOUT LITTLE BUDDY, COME FROM THE RIGHT. BUT JUST KNOWING THAT WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS, OR WE SHOULDN'T JUST BE TALKING ABOUT ONE PARTICULAR SITE. WE'RE NOT, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE YOU KNOW, ZONING MAP. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THIS LEGISLATION. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED IN OUR ZONING CODE AND OUR DESIGN GUIDELINES. WELL THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS WOULD WOULD HAVE TO BE.

IF THIS PASSES, THEN A WHAT WOULD YOU CALL IT? NOT A TOPOGRAPHY, A YOU WOULD HAVE TO CREATE YEAH. ADDITIONAL TYPOLOGY CORRECT CHARTS FOR EACH TYPE OF USE. TO THE DESIGN CHANGE. AND I THINK I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW THE CONCERNS AND THAT COULD BE DONE. IN IN THAT BUT I THINK IF WE ATTACH IT HERE THAT BE ACROSS THE WORLD, EVERYTHING THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S ONLY DISTRICT FOR THAT TYPE OF FACILITY, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT , AND THAT'S MY THAT'S MY

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YES. YEAH THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL. OKAY, SO WE'LL CALL MR BERGER. NOW. IS THIS THE AMENDMENT THAT MR COUNCILMAN SEYMOUR IS SUGGESTING, OKAY? CAN CAN WE JUST CLARIFY THAT IS THAT 30? FT. IS IT THREE STORIES IS TWO STORIES ONE EXACTLY. 30. FT.

OKAY? SO AND THE RESPONSE THAT'S THERE THAT NIGHT. IN RESPONSE TO IF IT PASSES. IT GOES TO 30. FT.

MY VOTE IS YES. TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. ALRIGHT, MR BURBEY. MR ROUSH? NO, MR REEMS. NOW, MR CARPENTER. PROVING THAT ACTUALLY VOTE NOW. YEAH I MEAN, NO. MR SEYMOUR GROUP. OKAY SO I THINK THE MOTION FIELD OKAY. NOW WE NEED A MOTION TO PASS. THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION IS IT WAS PRESENTED ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO GO TO STORIES. ONLY KIDDING. YEAH THANK YOU, SIR. SO WHO WILL MAKE A MOTION TO AND PASSED. LEGISLATION IS PRESENTED ORIGINALLY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY WELCOME. PLEASE, MR BURBEY. NO. MR ROUSH? YES MR REEMS. MR. CARPENTER MR. SEYMOUR MRS GROAT? NO, MR BERGER. OKAY YES, MOTION FAILS. OKAY THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. MOVING ONTO ORDINANCE G 38

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MRS CASTILLO. MR MAHON, SOLANO. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO EMAIL ALL OF US ON COUNCIL. I AM ALWAYS. YOU KNOW, DURING MY TIME ON COUNCIL YOU ALWAYS HAVE. YOU

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OH, MR ROSE. WE WON'T HAVE A MEETING BEFORE FOURTH OF JULY, SO EVERYBODY CELEBRATE OUR INDEPENDENCE SAFELY AND HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY COMES BACK WITH ALL THEIR DIGITS. BE CAREFUL AND ENJOY THE FOURTH. HMM JR. ESPECIALLY YEAH, MR. EAMES, YOU KNOW THAT'S AH.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT. WE'VE GOT INDEPENDENCE DAY PARADE COMING UP AND I HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A CONTINUATION OF THE TRADITION STARTED HERE. PRESIDENT OF COUNCIL DECORATED HIS BIKE AND RODE IN THE KIDS BREAD. YEAH IF I CAN GET MY GRANDKIDS TO JOIN ME. THANKS SO MY THAT'S FUNNY.

UM I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT, UH, LET'S SEE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL GROWTH. WELL I THINK IT'S MORE OF THE EVENT EVENTUAL GROWTH ON OUR EAST SIDE OF TOWN. UH, ROCKFORD WAS HERE TONIGHT. LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THEM AS A CITY GOING FORWARD. I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE REALLY LUCKY TO BE IN THAT IN THE POSITION WHERE WE CAN REALIZE THAT GROWTH. I DON'T THINK PRESIDENTS REALLY FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT'S GOING ON QUITE YET, BUT ONCE THEY ONCE THEY DO, I THINK THEY'LL BE EXCITED ABOUT IT. UM AS MAYBE PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT DONALD HAD SAID A LITTLE BIT. UM THANK YOU FOR THE EMAIL. MISS CASTELLANO. I'M SORRY THAT YOU'RE FROM CALIFORNIA. TRULY BUT I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE IN MARYSVILLE. UM NO. HONESTLY YOUR YOUR EMAIL DID NOT FALL ON DEAF EARS, AT LEAST FOR ME. I ACTUALLY DON'T REPRESENT YOU. I REPRESENT WORK ONE. BUT UM, I THINK YOU HAVE A LOT OF THE SAME VIEWPOINTS IS THAT PEOPLE INWARD ONE DO YEAH.

READING THROUGH YOUR EMAIL. I COULD TELL THAT YOU WERE BEING GENUINE AND SINCERE AND RESPECTFUL. AND I JUST APPRECIATE THAT, YOU KNOW? YOU KNOW, PEOPLE YELL AT US A LOT, RIGHT. SO WHEN WE GET TACTFUL RESPECT AND IN A WRITTEN FORMAT, IT'S REALLY REFRESHING TO READ THROUGH. SO THANKS FOR HOW YOU PRESENTED YOURSELF, AND WE'RE DOING THINGS THE RIGHT WAY SHOWING UP HERE AND MAKING YOUR VOICE HEARD, UM THANK YOU. YEAH. IT IS A GEM. RESIDENTS. HERE ARE SOME OF THE PEOPLE I'VE SPOKEN TO RAISE THEIR EYES. GIRLS WHEN I TELL THEM. AND THAT'S HOW I.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH OKAY, TEDDY. HEY CAN I PUT YOU ON SPONSOR FOR SPOT FOR THE MOMENT? BECAUSE THIS MORNING WE DID TALK ABOUT THE EVENT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE TOMORROW. AS A RESULT OF YOU AND THE UM CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, MAKING A TRIP UP THE DETROIT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH THING, UH, THAT CORRIDOR. TOMORROW THE SPAN THE DAY BEGIN. AND WHEN I SAY THAT AUTOMOTIVE COMPANIES THE BREAST. SEEN WHAT'S HAPPENING ALONG 80 HISTORY HERE AND THREE QUARTERS.

THEY'LL BE STARTING IN THE MORNING AS CRC TRANSPORTATION RESEARCH STANDARD. SO NO, I SPENT 20 MINUTES TIMES IN THERE AND THEY'LL PRINT PORTS. MARYSVILLE SPEND ABOUT A HALF HOUR HERE, TAKE A LOOK CONNECTED MIRRORS. AND SO THE TECHNOLOGY. PEOPLE HEAR FROM THEIR THEIR GOOD DUMPLINGS. SAYING THERE TAKE A LOOK AT CONNECTED THAT ONE. THE. AND THERE AND THEN FINISHED. THEIR DAY AT ALL KIND OF SKIMMING UNIVERSITY. NO, NO, STOP THERE AND THEN. SO IT'S A

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MR. ROUSH? YES? YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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