Jul 05, 2023 Planning Commission

[ CALL MEETING TO ORDER]

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EVENING. IT IS WEDNESDAY, JULY 5TH 2023 AT 6 31 CALL THE JULY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER CAN I HAVE A REAL CALL, PLEASE? MR ROGER HERE, HERE. HERE. MR NICHOLSON HERE. MS VERBS IS EXCUSED TONIGHT, MR WALL NOTICE HERE. AND MR STILYAN. ALL RIGHT. NEXT TIME ON

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[SWEARING OF CITIZENS & APPLICANTS]

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BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO BRING UP. OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO UM, SOMETHING TO BE BROUGHT UP WITH ENGINEERING, CORRECT, RIGHT? YEAH YEAH, WE WILL DISCUSS THAT IN. TAKE A LOOK INTO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. ALRIGHT SO THE ONE ORDER OF NEW BUSINESS THAT WE HAVE, UM SORRY. REPORTEDLY ADMINISTRATION CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE ANY UPDATES, OKAY? SO THE

[ 1. To hear an application for a Planned Unit Development (PUD) Development Plan application for a development known as Weaver Mill Farms located along Weaver Road with a Parcel number of 2900300590010. ]

UH, DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION FOR A DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS WE WERE NO FARMS ALONG WE WERE ROAD WITH A PARCEL NUMBER 2900300. IS THERE A PERSON TO PRESENT? DOCTOR GIVE US A RUNDOWN OF THE PROJECT CURRENT UPDATES THROUGH THIS. YOU WANT TO SWITCH OVER. OKAY. THANK YOU. BART BART BARRACKS, SOCKS DEVELOPMENT 5979 DUBLIN ROAD. I APPRECIATE YOU'RE HEARING THIS. I APPRECIATE THE FOLKS COMING IN TO PROVIDE INPUT FOR THIS. THIS IS SORRY. IS THAT BETTER? NO NO. IS THIS ONE ON OKAY, OKAY, THAT'S OKAY. BARBARIC STOCKS. REAL ESTATE. UM THIS IS WEAVER MILLS FARMS. WE WENT THROUGH SKETCH PLAN LAST MONTH. UM AND GOT A 70 VOTE THERE, AND THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS IS TO COME THROUGH WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. UM THIS IS THE PLANNING AND ZONING. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HEARING THIS . I APPRECIATE FOLKS COME IN AND PROVIDE INPUT. HOPEFULLY I CAN ANSWER MOST OF THE QUESTIONS WITH THIS. I'VE GOT A SHORT PRESENTATION HERE BECAUSE I THINK THE 70 PLUS DOCUMENTS ARE IN THE ACTUAL, UM, APPLICATION, BUT I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROJECT HERE. SO ESSENTIALLY, THIS IS THE SITE. IT'S ABOUT 102 ACRES. WE ARE ANTICIPATING 298

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WE'RE PUTTING FOUNTAINS WERE PUTTING SOME BENCHES AROUND IT, AND THEN THERE WILL BE SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING THAT GOES AROUND IT. UH UM. SO THAT IS KIND OF THE HIGH LEVEL PICTURE OF THIS. FROM THIS STANDPOINT, THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC ABOUT CONGESTION, AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS ARE ACCESS POINTS HERE. THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH OF DINA POINT HAS TWO ACCESS POINTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONNECT TO, WHICH IS BUCK MEYER AND WEAVER RIDGE DRIVE, AND THOSE ARE CIRCLED UP THERE TO THE NORTH. OUR MAIN ACCESS POINT WILL BE AWFUL.

WEAVER WEAVER ROAD. WHICH IS ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY . WE HAVE TO STUB ROADS THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO, UM AND FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, GOING BOTH TO THE WEST AND TO THE SOUTH, AND THEY'RE HERE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE AND THEN ANOTHER ONE. YOU'LL SEE THIS ONE IS STILL KIND OF BEING DEBATED. I MET LAST WEEK WITH FIRE CHIEF TO GO THROUGH THIS PLAN TO SEE IF THEY HAD ANY CONCERNS. AND BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE PARCELS TO THE SOUTH OR SPLIT UP BY PROPERTY OWNERS.

ONE PARCEL COULD POSSIBLY DEVELOP AND THE OTHER ONE NOT AND THEN ONLY HAVE ONE ACCESS.

HE ASKED IF I WOULD CONSIDER CHANGING THE CALL TO SACK THERE TO A STUB ROAD IN THE FUTURE. I HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH WITH THE CITY ENGINEER, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER WHAT WE PROBABLY DO THERE. IF THAT WAS THE CASE WOULD PROBABLY LEAVE BECAUSE OF THE CONFIGURATION OF THE HOUSES. WE'D LEAVE THAT. UM AREA THERE THE CALL TO SACK AND KIND OF JUST EXTEND THE ROAD TO THE PROPERTY LINE OR PROVIDE THE EASEMENT IT WOULD YOU CAN SEE UP HERE ON THE RIGHT HAND CORNER. HOW WE KIND OF MODIFY, UM, CALLED A SAX. SOMETIMES IN ORDER TO PROVIDE PASTORS, THIS ONE WOULD BE MODIFIED IN A SIMILAR SECTION. UM SO THAT'S ACCESS IN , UM, IN THIS CASE WE DID BECAUSE IT IS A P U D. WE DID DO A TRAFFIC STUDY. WE DID THE ANALYSIS DURING THE SCHOOL PERIOD OF TIME. UM AND WE PROVIDE THAT TO THE CITY ENGINEER. I ALSO SENT A COPY OF IT TO THE COUNTY ENGINEER FOR EVALUATION. BOTH OF THEM HAVE PROVIDED INPUT. HOWEVER THE COUNTY ASKED FOR ONE ADDITIONAL EVALUATION AND THAT IS THE TRAFFIC STUDY DID NOT DO THE ANALYSIS AT SCOTTS LAWN, AND WE'VE ERODE SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT ANALYSIS. THE TRAFFIC STUDY ACTUALLY DOES NOT SAY THAT TURN LANES RIGHT OR LEFT LANES ARE ACTUALLY NEEDED. BUT WE'VE AGREED WITH THE TWO ENGINEERS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS WITH THAT, IF THEY WOULD LIKE THOSE TO BE INSTALLED, WE WILL DO THAT. WE ALSO HAVE TALKED ABOUT SOME ADDITIONAL OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE NORTH AROUND THE PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY CONNECTOR THROUGH AND THEN ALL THE WAY UP TO FIFTH STREET, SO WE'RE STILL KIND OF WORKING THROUGH THOSE ITEMS TO IDENTIFY. OBVIOUSLY IF THIS WAS APPROVED TONIGHT, WE WOULD HAVE THOSE THINGS COMPLETED BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IS, BUT WE DID DO THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT VALIDATES THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THIS PROJECT WILL, UH, WILL ACTUALLY PRODUCE AND THE IMPACTS ON THE ROAD. LIKE I SAID NEITHER TURN LANE WAS WARRANTED, BUT WE'RE WILLING TO PUT BOTH OF THOSE IN IF WE NEED TO. AH I'VE ALSO IDENTIFIED THE PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS. CONNECTIVITY IS A BIG ISSUE NOT ONLY IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT IN REAL ESTATE AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE PICKING UP THE BIKE TRAIL. UM WHERE THE SIDEWALK PROCESS THAT COMES OUT OF WE HAVE A RIDGE DRIVE. WE'RE TAKING IT THROUGH OUR PROJECT. IT GOES THROUGH THE COMMON AREA PARK. UM AND THEN IT GOES DOWN AROUND. WE'VE GOT ROUGHLY 1.25 ACRE OR 21.25 MILES OF BIKE TRAIL THAT WILL BE ADDED TO THIS PROJECT FROM A CONNECTIVITY STANDPOINT. IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC SLASH PRIVATE PARK THAT IS UP ON WEAVER ROAD, WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF PARK POCKET PARKS.

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THE EXISTING HOUSES GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE TREE LINE, AND THE TREELINE PICKS UP. OBVIOUSLY IF I LIVED THERE, I WOULD BE CONCERNED WITH THE DEVELOPER TAKING THOSE TREES DOWN. SO UM, WE HAVE COMMITTED TO THOSE RESIDENTS ALONG THAT LITTLE SECTION THERE. I CAN COMMIT TO ALL OF THEM EXCEPT FOR THE LAST THREE BECAUSE THE PARCEL IS ACTUALLY SPLIT RIGHT THERE, AND I DON'T CONTROL THAT PIECE. BUT UM, WE ARE GOING TO KEEP THOSE ON THE BACK OF THOSE LOTS. SO THAT'S AN ADDITION BASED ON OUR INPUT AND OUR DISCUSSION WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT AREA, SO WE WILL NOT TEAR THAT THERE'S ROUGHLY 30 FT. MAYBE 35 FT WORTH OF TREES THERE, THE LOTS. THE PROPERTY LINES OF THE LOTS WILL GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH THOSE TREES, BUT THEY WILL NOT BE REMOVED FROM THAT STANDPOINT. SO ESSENTIALLY, YOU'RE YOUR SCHEMATIC OF THIS BACK LOTS FOR LOTS OF 90 90 THROUGH 95 WILL BE THE PROPERTY LINE THE TREE LINE , THEN OPEN SPACE. THEN I FENCED IN YARD AND THEN THE ACTUAL HOUSE. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. UM I'M GOING TO SKIP BACK TO THIS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE RED CIRCLE WHERE WEAVER WEAVER RIDGE COMES THROUGH, IT'S THE RED CIRCLE AT THE TOP OF THE RIDGE ROAD. I ALSO TALKED TO THE RESIDENTS ALONG THAT PROPERTY LINE AND THEY HAVE SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT THEY BROUGHT UP TO US. UM FISHER HOMES. IT'S ONE OF THE BUILDERS I'VE WORKED WITH, SO I KNOW THEM WELL, BUT THERE'S FALL COMING DOWN FROM ABOUT LOT 61 ON OUR DIAGRAM JUST BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE LOTS LOT NUMBERS ON THE OTHER. RIGHT ABOUT 61. THERE IS A FALL. I WOULD PROBABLY GUESS IT'S ABOUT 10 TO 15 FT. AS THE LOTS CONTINUE TO THE EAST.

THERE THIS WALES, SOME DEVELOPERS OR SOME HOME BUILDERS WHEN THEY BUILD SWALES. ONE PARCEL IN THE MIDDLE WILL BE BUILT. AND THEN THEY BUILD THE SWELTER THE OTHERS, SO IT KIND OF GOES LIKE THIS, BUT THERE'S A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT RIDGELINE ALONG THAT PROPERTY LINE RIGHT THERE THAT KEEPS THE WATER. ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY LINE UNTIL YOU GET DOWN TO THE CORNER SACK LOTS OR THE LOTS ON THE CURB THERE THAT ARE IN THE EDINA POINT SOMEWHERE RIGHT AROUND. I WOULD GUESS. WHAT IS THAT? 51? THEN THAT WATER FLATTENS OUT, AND IT COMES ACROSS THE PROPERTY ONTO WEAVER MILL FARMS PROPERTY AND THEN IT PULLS THERE, AND THEN IT FINDS ITS WAY KIND OF ON ITS OWN RIGHT NOW, SO I TALKED THAT TALK TO THE RESIDENT ABOUT THAT, AND WE DO HAVE STRUCTURED STORMS WHO WERE IN THEIR STORE OR STORMWATER CATCH BASINS IN THERE. SO WE HAVE STRUCTURED THE BACK OF THOSE LOTS TO CATCH THE WATER THERE AS WELL AS OTHER WATER BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THIS WATER IS NOT COMING FROM OUR SIDE IS STILL OUR RESPONSIBILITY . IF IT WAS THERE BEFORE WE GOT THERE, SO WE ARE GOING TO CATCH THAT WE'LL PUT IT IN THE STORM SYSTEM THAT GOES THROUGH THE ROADS AND ULTIMATELY WIND UP IN ONE OF THE TWO PONDS TO THE SOUTH. UM WE MAY HAVE TO EXTEND ONE MORE CATCH BASIN. BUT I COMMITTED TO THE RESIDENT DURING OUR DISCUSSION THAT WE WOULD DO THAT. AND IN ADDITION, WE WILL HAVE OUR OWN SWAIL THERE. IT WON'T JUST BE A FLAT CATCH BASIN BECAUSE THE GROUND CONTINUES TO FALL TOWARDS WEAVER ROAD. BUT WORKING WITH THE RESIDENT THERE, WE AGREED THAT WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THAT CATCH BASIN IS THERE. THE OTHER THING THAT WE TALKED, TALKED TO A NUMBER OF THE RESIDENTS ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE. IS EVEN THOUGH THE PROPERTY LINE OF THESE LOTS GO ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK. WE ARE NOT DEVELOPING ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK SO THE HOUSES WILL BE BUILT. THERE'LL BE ROUGHLY 30 TO 35 FT WORTH OF ENCLOSED, FENCED IN YARD IN THE REAR BACKYARD, AND THEN THERE'LL BE A OPEN SPACE ON THOSE LOTS THAT WILL BE MODE AND MAINTAINED AND EVERYTHING ELSE SO THERE IS A NATURAL BUFFER WITH THE WAY THESE LOTS WILL BE DEVELOPED THAT WILL OCCUR ON THAT PROPERTY LINE. SO UNLESS IT'S A DISEASE, DEAD TREE ON THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TREES

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THAT IS THE TARGET MARKET FOR THESE HOUSES HERE, UM ALL OF THEM WILL BE UPGRADED MATERIALS THERE WILL NOT BE, UM, VINYL AS A MEAN MATERIAL HERE. THERE MAY BE SOME SOFFITS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT MADE OUT OF VINYL. BUT THE MAJORITY OF THIS, UM WILL BE CULTURED STONE OR HARDY PLANK, WHICH IS A CEMENT TYPE BOARD. UM VERY DURABLE, VERY HIGH END. IT'S ACTUALLY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN VINYL, BUT WE'VE ELIMINATED VINYL FROM THE DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S THE CLUBHOUSE ELEVATION.

UM SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES. NO, ACTUALLY TAKES YOU THROUGH THIS . THERE'S NINE SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES FOR EVALUATING A P U D THAT ARE IN YOUR CODE. UM I'M NOT GONNA READ THROUGH ALL OF THIS, BUT ESSENTIALLY, IT IS IN YOUR PACKET THAT'S THERE. BUT IT ENCOURAGED UNIFEM, UH, UNIFIED PROJECTS 298 UNITS. WE ARE WELL BELOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM A DENSITY STANDPOINT. LIKE I SAID THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALLOWS 3 TO 6 UNITS BREAKER. UM THE SIXTH WOULD BE RATHER HIGH FOR THIS SITE WERE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE WE STARTED WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE'VE ALSO USED THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT IS THERE AND THEN SUPPLEMENTED THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN WITH THE T. I S THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY . UM AND THEN YOU KNOW CONNECTIVITY OF THIS PROJECT NOT ONLY TO THE PROJECTS TO THE NORTH, BUT ALSO TO THE PROJECTS TO THE SOUTH. THAT COULD COME AT SOME POINT DOWN THE ROAD IS IMPORTANT, SO ALL OF THAT IS INCLUDED IN IT. ALLOW FOR THE CREATION OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT RESPECT UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS, NATURAL QUALITY AND BEAUTY OF THE SITE. THE MAJORITY OF THIS IS A CORNFIELD.

UM THERE'S ONE LITTLE SECTION IN THE MIDDLE THAT'S GOT AN OLD RUSTY WINDMILL IN IT, BUT OTHER THAN THE TREES ALL THE WAY OVER ALONG THE NORTH OR I'M SORRY. THE WEST SIDE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF GREAT TREES ON THERE, BUT WE'RE NOT TOUCHING ANY OF THAT. FROM A WETLAND STANDPOINT, WE DO TALK ABOUT THAT. THERE ARE THREE WETLANDS ON THE SITE. THERE WERE FOUR NOTIFIED OR IDENTIFIED IN OUR STUDY, BUT ONE OF THEM IS ACTUALLY OFF OUR PROPERTY. AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THAT THE ONE WE ARE TOUCHING IS PROBABLY ABOUT THE SIZE OF THIS ROOM. IT'S ACTUALLY 00.1 ACRES.

THE OTHER ONES WILL REMAIN IN A NATURAL STATE. WE WERE ABLE TO PUT THOSE EITHER IN THE BACK OF THE LOTS WHERE WE WOULDN'T DEVELOP OR IN A COMMON AREA. UM OR DETENTION OR DETENTION PONDS.

THEY WON'T JUST BE THERE FOR STORMWATER PURPOSES. WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING THOSE AMENITIES WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS. THE FOUNTAINS, THE TRAILS, THE BENCHES THAT THE CITY STAFF HAS ASKED FOR. UM, AND AGAIN THE OPEN SPACE FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THIS WERE 2.5 TIMES WHAT IS ACTUALLY REQUIRED WITH THE 26. PROMOTE ECONOMIC, ECONOMICAL AND EFFICIENT USE OF THE LAND. WE'VE GOT 50 60 FT LOTS. SO WE HAVE SMALLER LOTS HERE. UM THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIKE LARGE LOTS. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE LARGE BLOCKS. UM I AM THE CREATOR OF TWO MILLENNIALS MYSELF, AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THEIR TIME AND THEIR ENERGY IS NOT SPENT MAINTAINING HOUSES AND MAINTAINING YARDS AND THAT SORT OF STUFF. THEY HAVE LIVED IN APARTMENTS FOR 567 YEARS. UM, AND WHEN THEY COME OUT, THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR 3 4000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSES. UM COMMON AREA. THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE FUTURE. WE'RE UTILIZING THAT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE MULTIPLE ACCESS POINTS ON SMALL PARCELS TO THE SOUTH. WE'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING THE STUB ROADS THAT THE CITY ASKED FOR. AND WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP AS MUCH AS THE NATURAL TREE LINES AROUND IT. AMENITY STANDPOINT, TALKED ABOUT THE POOL, THE CLUBHOUSE THOSE SORT OF THINGS THE PROPERTY VALUES ON THESE HOMES WILL BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 3 64 25 AT THE RATE MATERIALS EXPENSES, VALUATIONS ARE GOING UP. I WOULD PROBABLY SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO PUSH THE 404 $125,000. VALUATION HERE. UM AND THAT IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE HOUSES TO THE NORTH IN BOTH THE NEXT DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU CONTINUE UP. UM AND THE AVERAGE SALE PRICE AT EVEN IN THE 3 62 4 25. THE AVERAGE SELF RICE EXCEEDS THE AVERAGE SALE PRICE OF EXISTING HOMES IN THE MARYSVILLE UNION COUNTY AREA. COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN PROPOSED LAND USE IS TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST SINGLE FAMILY, SO IT'S VERY COMPATIBLE WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY ON THOSE TWO SIDES TO THE SOUTH THAT IS TOWNSHIP FARMS. SOME SINGLE HOUSES DOWN THROUGH THERE, UM,

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YEAH I MEAN, I GUESS MY CONCERN IS I LOOK AT SRD IN IN THE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING FORTH ARE VERY SIMILAR. UM SO FOR TAKES THE CITY'S MINIMUMS AND MAKE SOME LITTLE SMALLER IN

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THEY FEATURE FRONT PORCHES THAT ARE EXTENDED OUT. NOT ALL OF THESE DESIGNS HAVE THE FRONT PORCHES THAT ARE WAY OUT IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE IS SO UM, BUT IF THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN, THE FRONT SETBACKS NOT A BIG DEAL. BUT LIKE I SAID THE LAUNCH ARE ESPECIALLY DEEP HERE THAT ALLOWS US TO DO THE ADDITIONAL SET BACK THE HOUSE, THE 30 TO 35 FT FENCE DOWN YARD. NOW SOME OF THE YARDS WILL BE COMPLETELY FENCED IN. BUT FOR THE MOST PART THAT WILL BE WHERE YOU HAVE HOUSES THAT GO BACK TO BACK, LIKE IN THE MIDDLE SECTIONS. OKAY SO I'LL HOUSEHOLDS ARE NOT GONNA HAVE OFFENSES. ALL HOUSES WILL HAVE FENCES. PERIMETER HOUSES WILL NOT GO ALL THE WAY TO THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY LINE WHERE THE ONES IN THE MIDDLE WILL. IT WOULD KIND OF LOOK FUNNY IF YOU HAD 30 FT. AND YOU HAD 30 FT. AND LOTS ARE 1 25 DEEP, UM, THAT YOU HAD, YOU KNOW, 50 FT OFFENSE OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE THAT YOU MODE SO IN THE CENTER PORTIONS HERE KIND OF AS AN AMENITY. YOU GET A LITTLE BIGGER, FENCED IN YARD. OKAY? UM YOU MENTIONED THE H O A, UM A COUPLE TIMES DURING THE PRESENTATION. SO IF THE HOUSES ARE NOT OWNER OCCUPIED WHO WHO REPRESENTS ON THE H O A DEVELOPER OR THE HOMEBUILDER HOME BUILDER CONTROLS THAT, AND THAT'S HOW A LOT OF HORUS ACTUALLY FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, ACTUALLY OPERATE THAT WAY. UM BUT IN THIS CASE, THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION WILL BE THE HOME BUILDER. AS LONG AS THEY THEY OWN THE BUILDINGS 100% ALRIGHT, SO THEY'RE SETTING THE RULES, BUT THEY'RE ALSO POLICING THE RULES. YES BUT ALL THE RESIDENTS CONFORM WITH THOSE RULES SO YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT MAY CHOOSE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION. SO OR THE TENANT ASSOCIATION, WHATEVER WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THAT ENTITY, BUT SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, YOU HAVE ONE ENTITY THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THIS. SO WHEN I SAY THE TREES ON THE BACKSIDE OF LOTS ON THE WEST SIDE AREN'T GOING TO BE TORN DOWN. I'VE GOT ONE ENTITY. IF THESE WERE ACTUALLY LET ME LET ME GO THROUGH A COUPLE MISS HERE OR SOME OF THE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

THERE'S A FEW ITEMS THAT I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS AND I MIGHT AS WELL JUST DO THAT HERE BECAUSE IT HELPS TO EXPLAIN THAT, BUT UM , ONE, THE FIRST ONE THAT I PICKED UP AND SOME OF THESE COMMENTS CAME FROM RESIDENTS TO, UM BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE GRAY HAIR . I'M NOT A REAL BIG SOCIAL MEDIA PERSON. UM BUT ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT IS OUT THERE BECAUSE THE SCHOOL LEVY, ETCETERA, IS THIS RESIDENTIAL TIFF? ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NOT . UM SO, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL TIFF AREA. WHERE DO YOU GO HERE? YES. SO I PUT THE YELLOW STAR WHERE THE SUBJECT SITE IS SO THE DINA POINT IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE SCHOOL LEVIES A LOT OF DISCUSSION THERE. THERE ARE A NUMBER FROM 2004 TO 2006 RESIDENTIAL TIPS, AND DINA POINT DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH IS ONE OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL TIFF SITES. THIS PROJECT IS NOT ALL THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS THAT KYLE AND THE COUNTY ENGINEER AND MYSELF ARE TALKING ABOUT THOSE WHO WILL ALL BE PAID WITH THE DEVELOPER. THERE ARE NO REIMBURSEMENTS THERE. THERE IS NO DEDUCTION FROM SCHOOL FUNDS.

OR ANYTHING ELSE. SO I ASKED FOR THIS MAP JUST TO SHOW WHERE THE SUBJECT SITE IS AND THAT IS NOT WITHIN AN EXISTING TIFF. NOR ARE WE ASKING FOR ANY AND, YOU KNOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE RESIDENTS CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, UM I CAN KINDA SEE BOTH SIDES OF THAT PIECE. THESE ARE RENTAL UNITS. UM, I DIDN'T HIDE THAT DURING THE SKETCH PLAN, AND I'M NOT HIDING THAT NOW. THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT IS MISSING FROM THE MARYSVILLE MARKET ON THE SINGLE FAMILY, UM, THE SINGLE FAMILY SIDE AND FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT, YOU'VE GOT BUSINESS EXECUTIVES THAT ARE IN TOWN THAT ARE NOT LIVING IN THREE STORY WALK UPS THAT ARE SAYING IT EXTENDED STAY HOTELS. IT'S BEEN DOCUMENTED A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES THE CITY COUNCIL HAS DONE. THERE ARE NOT THREE AND FOUR BEDROOM AND RENTALS OUT THERE UNLESS YOU'RE RENTING BUYING EXISTING PRODUCT, ESPECIALLY IN THE CORE OF MARYSVILLE. THOSE OLDER HOUSES TEND TO BE WHAT'S

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UM THE VALUES OF THESE HOMES ON THE OUTER EDGE WEBSITE ARE VERY LIKELY TO BE 3 62 4 25. I LOOKED AT THE DINA POINT IN THE PROJECT TO THE NORTH, THE FISHER AND THE RYAN HOME PROJECTS, AND MOST OF THE MOST OF THOSE HOMES ARE IN THAT EXACT SAME VALUE RANGE. UM, AND THAT'S EVEN WITH THE 23.8% THAT ON THE LAST TRY ANNUAL THAT GOT INCREASED. SO THEY WILL PAY AS MUCH OF THE TAXES TO THE SCHOOL OF CITY COUNTY. AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS ALL THE OTHER RESIDENTS. SO UM, IT'S JUST FUNNELED THROUGH ONE ENTITY BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE H O A OR THE HOME BUILDER WILL PAY THAT IN A SINGLE PAYMENT FOR ALL OF THESE, BUT THE VALUATION WILL OCCUR JUST THE SAME. ANDREA WE HAVE A WILL DO THE AUDIT TRIANGLE. SHE'LL ASSIST THE VALUATIONS AND THE TAX BILLS WILL BE LEVY, UM IN THE SCHOOLS WILL GET THEIR 63 65% OR WHATEVER THAT IS FOR THAT INSTRUMENT. INCOME TAXES. UH THE RENTERS OF THESE ABSOLUTELY WILL PAY THE ONE THAT HALF PERCENT INCOME TAX TO THE CITY FOR THE SERVICES. UM AND THEN THE H O A. THE H O A WELL ACTUALLY MAINTAIN AND MANAGE THAT SO ALL OF THE LANDSCAPING, ALL OF THE COMMON AREA. ALL OF THE GROUND INSIDE THE FENCES AS WELL WILL BE MANY MAINTAINED BY ONE ENTITY, WHICH ELIMINATES, YOU KNOW KIND OF VARIATIONS OF THAT. SO THOSE WERE SOME OF THE THINGS I EITHER GOT THROUGH THE RESIDENTS, COMMENTS OR SALT ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS SO OKAY HERE VERY WELL BACK HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO REPEAT WHAT THE GERMAN SAID. WE'RE GETTING VERY LOW OF WHAT YOU'RE TELLING THEM.

COMING HERE WAS TO FIND THIS OUT. IT ISN'T WORKING. CAN YOU TURN THE MICROPHONES? I DON'T HAVE ANY ADJUSTMENT ON MICROPHONE. WE COULD MAYBE YEAH , HE IS MY HAS TO MIX IN FRONT OF HIM. ARE YOU ABLE TO USE THE HANDHELD CLOSER? YEAH. IS IT, OKAY? OKAY YEAH, THAT'S MY NECK, AND I CAN NO SURE WHAT? WE'LL GET THE QUESTION, SO I'LL I'LL LET HIM ANSWER HIS ASKED HIS QUESTIONS HERE. UM NOW I FORGOT WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. UM I THINK YOU MADE SOCIAL MEDIA, MISS. UM AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS THERE. SO WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DID YOU HEAR THOSE? OKAY I'LL GO BACK THROUGH THOSE. SO SOME OF THE ITEMS I GOT FROM SOCIAL MEDIA AND TALKING FROM THE RESIDENTS WERE NUMBER ONE. IS THERE A TIFF? THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO TIP ON THIS. ANY OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WERE DOING ON THE ROADWAY ACTUALLY CAN HEAR MYSELF VERY WELL ON THE ROADWAY . IN THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE MAKING THOSE THOSE ARE NOT BEING REIMBURSED. THEY WILL BE PAID BY THE HOMEBUILDER IN THIS SITUATION. THE EDINA POINT TIFF THAT HAS CAUSED ONE OF FIVE OR SIX THAT HAS CAUSED A LOT OF DISCUSSION LATELY. STOPS AT OUR NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE. UM, THESE RENTAL UNITS. WE'RE NOT HIDING THAT FACT. UM THE MARKET FOR THIS SINGLE FAMILY, UH, RESIDENTIAL RENTAL IS BIG. OBVIOUSLY MARYSVILLE HAS ADDRESSED PORTIONS OF THE RENTAL . THERE'S A NUMBER FOR 15 YEARS. MARYSVILLE DIDN'T BUILD ANY APARTMENTS. UM THEY ARE NOW DOING THREE STORY WALK UPS, THE TARGET THAT CENTER KIND OF HIGH SCHOOL THROUGH YOUNG LIFE, WHICH IS THREE STORY WALK UP WITH THE FANCY POOLS AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF. REDWOOD AND WILCOX OR BOTH SOLD OUT IN BOTH OF THEIR PROJECTS. THEY ARE FOR RENT, EMPTY NESTER PIECE, AND THE PIECE THAT IS MISSING FROM THE MARYSVILLE MARKET. IS THIS SINGLE FAMILY SINGLE FAMILY FOR RENT PRODUCT? THE ONLY PRODUCT THAT YOU REALLY FIND IN MARYSVILLE THAT HAS THREE AND FOUR BEDROOMS OR MORE ARE OLDER HOUSES THAT ARE FOR RENT, AND THOSE TEND TO BE IN THE CORE. SO THIS PRODUCT FROM THE STANDPOINT IS A RENTAL PRODUCT. THAT'S WHO WE'RE IN CONTRACT TO SELL THE

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SNOW PLANNING THE DRIVEWAYS WILL COME FROM THE H WAY AND ALL OF THE RESIDENTS HERE WILL CONTRIBUTE PART OF THEIR RENT TOWARDS THOSE EXPENSES. AND THOSE FEES. UM. OK OK, BACK TO WHERE? WHERE I WAS, UH I WILL OPEN UP SOME OTHER COMMISSION MEMBERS. MR I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. COULD YOU CLARIFY? YOU TALKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THIS SITE. BUT THEN YOU THINK YOU SAID CITY AND COUNTY YOU TALKED ABOUT A FURTHER STRETCH.

COULD YOU SHOW WHERE THAT WAS ON THE MAP AGAIN? YES, IT IS. REITERATE. WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THE SITE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY IS VERSUS THE RECOMMENDED LIKE STRETCH OF ROAD. THAT'S IN ADDITION, THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION. I THINK SO WORKING WITH THE CITY AND KYLE, UM I CAN KIND OF 0.2 ON THE MAP . BUT WORKING WITH THE CITY AND KYLE, WE WENT THROUGH A TRAFFIC STUDY. THE CITY ENGINEER IDENTIFIES WHAT INTERSECTIONS HE WOULD LIKE US TO MEASURE AND MONITOR. AND THERE'S CAMERAS UP. WE HIRE COMPANY THEY COME OUT AND THEY DO TO THE TRAFFIC COUNTS. THEN THEY GO ONE STEP FURTHER. THEY GO TO MORPH SEE CENTRAL HIGH AND THEY GET GROWTH RATES AND THEY ADD TO THE GENERAL GROWTH RATES ONTO THAT TRAFFIC EVALUATION. THAT WAS DONE THEN THEY LOOK AT HOW MANY WE'RE ADDING. SO ESSENTIALLY HOW MANY CARS 298 UNITS WILL ADD, AND THEY ADD THAT IN THEY PUT IT IN A BIG BLENDER, AND IT SPLITS OUT A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO HOW MUCH IT'S IMPACTING EACH OF THE INTERSECTIONS THAT WE EVALUATED. SO WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH THE CITY AND IDENTIFIED SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE NEEDED.

THAT STUDY DID NOT SAY THAT COMING SOUTH BOUTON WEAVER ROAD IT REQUIRED RIGHT INTERNALLY, NOR DID IT SAY THERE WAS A LEFT HAND TURN LANE COMING NORTH BOUTON WEAVER ROAD. UM SO IT DID SHOW THAT YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF THIS, AND IT SHOWED THE IMPACT BUT THE EXISTING ROADWAYS COULD PROVIDE FOR THAT, UM, WE DON'T FEEL WE FEEL A LEFT HAND TURN LANE HERE IS NEEDED. FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, IT ALLOWS PEOPLE GOING TO THE NORTH BECAUSE COMING FROM SCOTTS LAWN, OBVIOUSLY TO GO AROUND, PEOPLE TURNING LEFT HERE YOU MAY WAIT FOR CARS COMING THE OTHER DIRECTION. SO A LEFT HAND TURN LANE IS REALLY A SAFETY ISSUE.

SO WE'RE WILLING TO PUT THAT IN AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY A REQUEST. OF THE COUNTY. UM AND IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN OUR MISTAKE TO BEGIN WITH, BUT I DID NOT REALIZE THAT RIGHT ABOUT JUST NORTH OF OUR INTERESTS OFF A WEAVER ROAD. THE CITY LINE STOPS IN THE COUNTY LYING TO THE SOUTH BEGINS. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF BOTH. SO WE GOT OUR TRAFFIC STUDY TO THE COUNTY ENGINEER A LITTLE BIT LATE, PROBABLY ABOUT 30 DAYS AGO. AND THEY DID A CURSORY REVIEW OF IT , AND THEY CAME BACK. AND THEY SAID THAT EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T WARRANT A LEFT HAND TURN, THEY WOULD LIKE ONE, AND WE'RE WILLING TO PUT THAT IN FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT, THEY GAVE US A LIST OF THINGS TO CONSIDER. ONE WAS A RIGHT HAND TURN LANE HERE. ANOTHER ONE WAS SOME IMPROVEMENTS ALL THE WAY AT AT WEAVER AND FIFTH OR CHANGES INTO A DIFFERENT NAME, BUT WE'VE EARNED FIFTH STREET. AND THEN PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, SO THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE CITY ASKED IF WE WERE WILLING TO CONSIDER MAKING ON PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY, WHICH YOU THE CURRENT DEVELOPER IS NOT MAKING. THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WERE STILL DISCUSSING. SO WE DO FEEL THAT THE LEFT HAND TURN LANE WILL BE THERE. I THINK IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT THE RIGHT HAND TURN LANE WILL BE HERE AND WE'RE STILL FINALIZING THAT WITH BOTH OF THE ENGINEERS NOW THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE ALL INVOLVED. THE SPLIT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF OUR ROAD NORTH OF OUR ROAD BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITIES. OKAY YEAH, THAT ADDS CLARITY. THANK YOU. UM SECOND QUESTION WAS IN REGARD TO THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PARK. I THINK I HAD READ THAT. IN THE PACKET. THE CITY HAS NO INTENT OF OWNING, BUT I THOUGHT I EITHER I HEARD OR I READ THAT THERE IS A DISCUSSION ABOUT OWNERSHIP OF THE PARK THAT IS CORRECT CURRENT STATUS. IT'S STILL IN LIMBO. SO ESSENTIALLY, THE EASY PART OF THE CITY DOES NOT WANT IT. WE WILL MAKE IT AND MENOTTI FOR THE PROJECT, AND IT

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I'M HAVING TROUBLE VISUALIZED, VISUALIZING WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WAS BETWEEN WHAT WE REVIEWED A MONTH OR TWO AGO VERSUS WHAT'S SHOWN HERE TODAY. COULD YOU KIND OF CLARIFY THAT I DON'T BELIEVE OUR SKETCH PLAN ACTUALLY SHOWED IT IN OUR SKETCH PLAN? WE WERE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE, SO ESSENTIALLY, I'M GONNA HAVE TO WALK RIGHT NOW. I'M FREE. SO ESSENTIALLY RIGHT ALONG WEAVER ROAD PARALLEL TO THE ROAD OFF OF THE RIGHT WAY THEY WOULD LIKE TO SECTIONS OF ASPHALT AND MULTIPURPOSE TRAIL. UM SO IT WOULD GO TO OPEN SPACE A THERE TO THE BOTTOM OF OUR PROPERTY.

IT WOULD THEN NOT CONNECT ANYTHING BECAUSE THERE'S EXISTING RESIDENTS IN THE MIDDLE . AND THEN ANOTHER SECTION OF THAT WOULD WOULD BE ON THE PUBLIC PARK OPEN AREA AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT DOES IS CALLED COMPLETE ROADS, UM, TO WHERE YOU'RE AT ADDING THE ROADWAY THAT UTILITY IS THE RIGHT AWAY. AND THEN YOU'RE ADDING CONNECTIVITY FOR FUTURE PARCELS. IN OUR CONCERN. IS THERE SOME SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS AND STUFF THAT WHO KNOWS WHEN THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED? SO ASPHALT IS EXPENSIVE. MULTIPURPOSE TRAILS ARE EXPENSIVE. WE'VE ALREADY GOT 1.25 MILES WORTH OF IT IN THE PROJECT TO CONNECT INTO MAKING AN AMENITY, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT TO WEAVER ROAD AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO NORTH AND SOUTH BUT ONLY TO THE PROPERTY LINE IN BOTH OF THOSE SECTIONS, SO IT WAS JUST THE PRACTICALITY OF IS THERE A BETTER WAY WE COULD SPEND OUR MONEY AND THAT WAS THE QUESTION. SO BUT I DON'T THINK OUR SKETCH PLAN ACTUALLY SHOWED IT. BUT I WROTE IT UP AS A VARIANCE TO THE SKETCH PLAN BECAUSE IT IS REQUIRED BY YOUR CODE AND LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE TO THE CHAIRMAN, IF THAT'S REQUIREMENT, WE'RE WILLING TO PUT THAT SECTION IN. IT'S JUST TOO SMALL SECTIONS. THANK YOU.

UH HUH. GOOD QUESTIONS. I WAS JUST. THIS QUESTION IS FOR ASHLEY. I THOUGHT THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT RETENTION PONDS CANNOT BE PART OF THE OPEN GREEN SPACE. SO THAT IS UNDER THE STANDARD CODE. UH SINCE THIS IS A P U D, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THEY IF THEY'RE COUNTING THAT TOWARD IT, THEN IT HAS THEY WRITE THEIR OWN CODE FOR THE BEAUTY. THAT WAS MY CONFUSION. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THE REASON WHY YOU KEPT THROWING THE TERM 26% OPEN SPACE. ESSENTIALLY THE PARK, WHICH IS FIVE ACRES, LET'S GIVE OR TAKE FIVE ACRES IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT A PUBLIC PARK WELL, THAT'S 5% OF YOUR WAS TRYING TO DO THE MATH AND UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU WERE.

YOU WERE WITH THE OPEN SPACE. WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT, ASSUMING THAT THAT WOULD GO TO THE CITY, THE PARK SPACE FROM THE FROM THE DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU PUSH THAT BACK FROM THE DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, BECAUSE THEY OPEN SPACES CALCULATED WITH THE WHOLE GROUND. I AM COUNTING . ABSOLUTELY THE FIVE ACRES THE 4.5 ACRES THAT WAS THERE, SO IT WOULD BE THERE REGARDLESS OF WHAT I DO WITH IT AFTERWARDS. THAT PIECE IS STILL COMING IN WITH 101 102 ACRES AND BEING

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WE'RE GOING TO PUT A PORTION OF HER LOT, WHICH WILL BE MORE NICELY, ETCETERA, BUT, UM, CAN I DO A SCATTERING OF TREES OVER A PERIOD OF TIME? YOU KNOW, WE COULD ADD SOME TREES THAT GO ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE . THOSE WOULD ACTUALLY BE ON THE LOTS NOT ON THE COMMON AREA, NOR WOULD THEY BE ON THE TREE LINE. UM BUT THEY WOULD BE IN THE REAR OF THE ARTS. I ADD SOMETHING CHAD TO THE COMMENT ABOUT THE PONDS BEFORE, UM AS PART OF THAT NEW REQUIREMENT, IF IT HAS A PATHWAY AROUND IT THAT CAN BE CALCULATED AS OPEN SPACE IN THAT NEW CODE REQUIREMENTS. SO THERE'S DOES HAVE THAT SO THAT WOULD MEET THAT. EVEN SO, THANK YOU. BECAUSE I DIDN'T. I DIDN'T WANT TO CHALLENGE THAT. BUT IN OUR LAST PROJECT BECAUSE WE PUT THE FOUNTAIN, THE BENCHES AND THE TRAIL, YOU CAN CREATE A DETENTION POND AS AN AMENITY. BUT YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE A HOLE IN THE GROUND THAT FILLS UP WITH WATER. AND THEN ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS YOU'RE LOOKING AT TAKING THAT AND COLDEST SACK AND CREATING A CONNECTOR ROAD DOWN TO THAT AREA, A STUB, BRO JUST TO THE PROPERTY LINE. CORRECT AND THE REASON REASON THAT THE FIRE CHIEF ASSETS THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO PARCELS THERE. HE'S JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW IT DEVELOPS IN THE FUTURE.

THIS WOULD GO TO JEREMY. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO ACCOMMODATE, JEREMY? KYLE I'M SORRY. YEAH SORRY ABOUT THAT WORRIES. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA BY OUR FIRE, CHIEF.

GREAT THANKS. THE FIRE CHIEF ALSO DOESN'T LIKE ROUNDABOUT C OR CALLING SEX EITHER, AND I ASSUME YOU'RE SNOWFALL. PEOPLE DON'T EITHER, BUT THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY OTHER COMMISSION MEMBERS, MISS ROB. ALRIGHT, SO WE'VE GOT THE LIST OF STAFF COMMENTS THAT YOU APPLIED BACK TO. I'M GOING TO REFER TO NUMBER FOUR LIMITED HOME OCCUPANTS ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE A LISTED UNDER THE PERMITTED USE OF STRAWBERRIES AND B, THERE'S AMERICA'S HOMES FOR AND HAVE STIPULATIONS OF AMOUNT OF TENANTS IN A HOME SAID THAT ONE MORE TIME HOMES FOR RENT HAVE STIPULATIONS AMOUNT OF TENANTS IN A HOME. UM THESE ARE SINGLE FAMILY RIGHT? SO THERE COULDN'T BE TWO FRIENDS IN AN APART ORIENTED IN A UNIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE HOME OCCUPANCY IS BECAUSE UNDOUBTEDLY , THERE ARE PEOPLE WORKING FROM HOME IN ANY FAMILY UNIT AT LEAST PORTIONS OF IT SO UNDER YOUR CODE, YOU ALLOW 30 FOR ROUGHLY 35% OF THE HOUSE. TO BE A HOME OCCUPANCY WORK FROM HOME AND WE JUST PICKED THAT UP OUT OF YOUR CODE. OKAY UH, STREET PARKING GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT. THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING IN THE INDIVIDUAL HOUSES, TWO CAR GARAGES ON ALL HOUSES, AS WELL AS THE DRIVEWAY THAT COULD HANDLE THAT. SO UM, WHETHER STREET PARKING IS ACTUALLY ALLOWED ON ONE SIDE OR NOT, THAT WOULD BE GOVERNED BY THE CITY CODE. UM NOT OUR CODE. AND SO, UM, BUT THERE SHOULD BE FOUR VEHICULAR SPOTS FOR EVERY HOUSE , WHICH I THINK THAT SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT AND IT ACTUALLY MEETS THE CODE REQUIREMENTS. SO.

ALRIGHT NUMBER NINE. THERE ARE THREE WETLANDS ON THE PROPERTY TO OR REMAIN, AND ONE WILL BE ELIMINATED OR MITIGATED. WHERE'S THE WHERE'S THE THREE WETLANDS? AND WHICH ONE? ARE YOU? A LIMITED? I GOTTA BRING UP A DIFFERENT IMAGE. SORRY I'M AT THAT TERRIBLE AGE OF LIFE WHERE

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UM, AND THEN THE SIGNAGE OUT FRONT, BUT THE SIGNING OR THE LIGHTING PACKAGES VERY MINIMAL.

THERE ARE NOT LAMPPOSTS ON THE HOUSES. UM, AND THEY ARE NOT STREET LIGHTS ON THE STREET.

HAVE YOU CONSIDERED ANYTHING FOR THE WALKING TRAIL WAITING FOR THE WALKING TRAIL AT ALL? UM NO , NOT FOR NOT, UH YOU MEAN LIGHTING? NO WE HAVEN'T CONSIDERED THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE WALKING TRAIL. LET ME LET ME PAGE BACK THERE. IS ACTUALLY THROUGH THE COMMUNITY ON, UM THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TRAILS THAT GO AROUND THE POND, AND THEN THAT SECTION RIGHT AT WEAVER ROAD. THIS IS. SO YOU'VE GOT SOME WALKING PRODUCTS AROUND THE POND AND YOU CAN SEE THE TREE LINE TO THE EAST OF THE POND THAT'S BEING RETAINED AS WELL. UM AND THEN YOU DO HAVE HOUSES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WALKING TRAIL AS YOU COME DOWN TOWARDS WEAVER ROAD. UM BUT WE HAVE NOT CONSIDERED ANY LIGHTING. THAT'S ALL FOR ME. THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. OKAY SO BEFORE I OPEN IT UP TO CITIZEN COMMENTS, UM LET ME JUST DISCUSS THIS PORTION. IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME, SO YOU HAVE UP TO FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK. WE'LL HAVE A TIME AROUND ON MY PHONE. UM BECAUSE OF THE SET UP OF THIS . THIS IS NOT A Q AND A SO YOU CAN MAKE QUARK. YOUR COMMENTS, AND THOSE COMMENTS HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO RESPOND DIRECTLY. BUT I WILL WRITE DOWN ALL THE QUESTIONS AND THEN HE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THE END TO ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS. UM AND THEN ALSO JUST KEEP IN MIND BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF PEOPLE WE HAVE. I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT YOU KNOW, EVERYONE HAS WHAT THEY WANT TO

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THEY. THE WEAVER RIDGE. UH, DOESN'T WANT THIS ANYWAY BECAUSE OF THE WATER PROBLEM. THERE'S ALWAYS WATER BACKING UP INTO WEAVER RICH. AND I'VE BEEN I'VE LIVED OUT THERE 41 YEARS AND I'VE SEEN THAT FILLED FLOOD. WHOLE BUNCH OF PLACES IN THAT FIELD IS FLOODED. I MEAN UNDERWATER FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS. SO WHY THEY GOTTA DEVELOP IT, SO IT COMES OUT ON WEAVER ROAD. INSTEAD OF GOING ON. 7 36 7 36 IS ALREADY WIDE. THAT'S A WIDER ROAD THAN WHAT WE'VE ERODED IS YOU'VE GOT GAS, WATER AND SEWER RIGHT THERE. EXACTLY AND THEN YOU GOT A SMALL LITTLE WOODS THERE. THAT YOU COULD PUT HOUSING IN. SO. THAT'S MY SAY AND MAKE THE HOUSES RENT DOWN.

IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT THAT MANY HOUSES IN THERE, MAKE THEM RENT TO DON'T PUT RENTALS IN THERE BECAUSE IF THEY START JUST DEVELOPMENT AND THE HOUSING BOOM DIES. THEN YOU GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF HOUSES SITTING AROUND EMPTY. AND YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS NEXT ON THAT. MM HMM.

THANK YOU. HI MY NAME IS JULIE MCCARVILLE. I LIVE AT 1516 ASHER CORK. MY COURT WILL BACK TO YOUR DEVELOPMENT. UM I PERSONALLY AM 100% AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT FOR SEVERAL REASONS. WHEN I CAME IN HERE I WAS THINKING YOU HAVE 298 LOTS. SO THERE'S AVERAGE, YOU KNOW. TWO CARS PER HOUSE. THAT'S 600 CARS. BUT YOU SAID FOUR THAT'S 1192 CARS COMING IN AND OUT. OF OUR SUBDIVISION, WHERE THERE'S LITTLE CHILDREN AND WITH REGARD TO THE IMPACT STUDY, UM, WITH REGARD TO THE TRAFFIC STUDY. I WAS WONDERING COUPLE THINGS. I KNOW. YOU SAID IT WAS A DREAM US HOURS. I THINK IS WHAT YOU SAID. BUT FIRST HOURS ARE DIFFERENT, THEN PEAK HOURS, WHICH WOULD BE YOU KNOW, SEVEN AM TO NINE AM 4 TO 6, P.M. AND 11 TO 1 WHEN MOMS ARE OUT RUNNING AROUND OR PEOPLE ARE OUT GRABBING LUNCH FOR CARS ARE COMING IN AND COMING OUT, AND WE'RE TRYING TO ENTER AND EXIT OFF WEAVER ROAD. IT'S NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE AS IT IS, ESPECIALLY AS YOU GO DOWN FIFTH. YOU CANNOT MAKE A LEFT. SO THIS CERTAINLY WILL BE IMPACTED. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE COST OF THE HOMES? WELL, WE HAVE HOMES IN IN EDINA POINT AND JUST SOLD FOR 616,000. SO I THINK WHEN WE'RE LOOKING IN TERMS OF COSTS, AND WE NEED TO LOOK DIRECT AT WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT VERSUS EVERYWHERE IN UNION COUNTY. I MEAN, IT'S ONLY FAIR AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ALSO ABOUT WHAT CAPACITY STUDIES WERE DONE AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR WATER AND OUR ELECTRIC HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR SAFETY SERVICES. WHAT ABOUT OUR HOSPITALS? THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE'S MORE THINGS TO CONSIDER THAN JUST PEOPLE THAT WANT TO RENT HOME AND TO THE GENTLEMAN'S POINT WHEN WE SPEAK ABOUT RENTERS, I'M ALL FOR RENTING. I HAD TO RENT AT ONE

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SO YOU HAVE SIX ABOVE THE AGE OF 18 PRETTY SURE ALL SIX OF THEM DRIVE UM AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, I WOULD LOVE I KNOW, THEY SAID THEY'RE GOING TO DO THIS GREAT UPSCALE. OUTSIDE OF THE HOMES. I MEAN, I WOULD RATHER THAN HAVE VINYL SIDING. BECAUSE IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OTHER RENTALS, YOU UNDERSTAND WHY, IF YOU'VE SEEN AND IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE PICTURES OF THEM DO HAVE PICTURES OF THEIR RENTALS THAT THEY ARE ALREADY ON. AND WE'RE NOT GOING SO WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE CARE OF ALUMINUM, VINYL SIDING AND HOMES LIKE THAT . THERE'S NO WAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITH BIG BOARD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY? GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LYNELL SZYMANOWSKI 14 44 WOULD LINE DRIVE ANYTHING APPOINT? UM I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM I DID A LITTLE FIRES AWAY AT ONE POINT, SO OKAY. UM SO I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM I DID A LITTLE, UM, ONLINE SEARCH FOR, UM FOR YOUR COMPANY, AND I DIDN'T FIND SOCKS. REAL ESTATE. UM BUT I DID FIND SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE COMPANY INDICATING THAT IT'S KIND OF LIKE LISTENING TO YEARS OLD. UM AND SO I WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTED TO SEE A LIST OF PREVIOUS PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. ON THIS BUSINESS MODEL OF THIS SIZE WITH THE RENTALS AND ALL THE MAINTENANCE BEING DONE BY A MANAGEMENT COMPANY AND WHERE THEY WHERE THEY WERE LOCATED. UM AND THEN ALSO ONE KIND OF DOWN IN THE WEEDS. DETAIL UM, SOMEWHERE IN THE TEXT THAT INDICATED THE PROJECT WOULD BE DEVELOPED IN LIKE ONE OR TWO PHASES, WHICH SEEMED FOR THIS NUMBER OF LOTS THAT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE VERY MANY PHASES. AND SO I WAS WONDERING, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE TURN LINES OUT, AND WE RODE TYPICALLY THOSE ARE CONSTRUCTED EITHER WITH PHASE ONE OR AT A CERTAIN BUILD OUT, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY INDICATED. BUT SINCE THEY'RE JUST BEING PUT IN KIND OF VOLUNTARILY, THAT THE T . I S DIDN'T REALLY WARRANT THEM AND WONDERING WHEN THOSE WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING, HOPEFULLY OR WAIT UNTIL THE END. SO I WAS KIND OF KIND OF WONDERING ABOUT THAT, UM AND THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN. MY NAME IS JOHN MARSHALL LIVE IT 12 11 WOULD LINE DRIVE HERE IN MARYSVILLE. FIRST OFF. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I KNOW YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE AN EASY JOB. UM, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THE LIST OF CONCERNS I HAVE GROW EVERY TIME I DIG INTO THIS ONE OF WHICH IS I HEARD THE WORD RENTAL COME UP FOR THE FIRST TIME TONIGHT. HELL NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT RENTALS IN HERE, YOU NEED TO RENAME IT'S GOING TO BE HILLBILLY HAVEN BECAUSE ANY TIME YOU HAVE RENTALS IN THEIR THINGS GO DOWNHILL. THEY DON'T GET TAKEN CARE OF. SO I NEED TO DIG INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. UM THE OTHER THINGS OF THE MANY THAT CONCERN ME ASIDE FROM

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SOMEBODY ELSE OTHER THAN THE TAXPAYERS TO PAY FOR THEM. UM SO YOU KNOW, BACK TO THE TRAILS. MY CONCERN IS THAT I CAN'T STEP AWAY THERE. BUT THERE ARE SOME LONG SECTIONS THERE THAT YOU CAN'T GET ACCESS THROUGH. UM WE DID THIS IN MILL VALLEY WHERE YOU'VE GOT THESE LONG, HALF MILE SECTIONS OF HOUSES THAT YOU CAN'T CUT THROUGH ON A BIKE TO GET TO THE PARKS. GET TO WHERE YOU NEED TO BE. SO WE NEED MORE BIKE TRAILS LAID OVER TOP OF THAT NOW HE'S NOT GONNA LIKE THAT BECAUSE HE ALREADY ADMITTED THAT COST THEM MONEY. WHO THE REASON YOU'RE HERE IS TO RAPE OUR TOWN AND TAKE AS MUCH MONEY AND PROFIT AS YOU CAN AWAY FROM US. FILL YOUR POCKETS GO AWAY, AND WE'RE LEFT WITH MAINTAINING THIS FOR AN INDEFINITE PERIOD OF TIME. THE NEXT 2030 5100 YEARS.

AND IF WE DON'T DO IT RIGHT NOW. FOR EXAMPLE, TERRY EMERY JUST PRESENTED A $50 MILLION CAPITAL PROJECT TO CONNECT THE TRAILS AND TRY AND UNDO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT DIDN'T GET DONE.

WHEN THESE AREAS WERE DEVELOPED. NOW WHAT'S POINT OF TIME AGO WE HAD A MOTTO THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS GOING TO PAY FOR ITSELF. I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT IN A LONG TIME. AND I DON'T THINK DEVELOPMENTS PAYING FOR ANYTHING RIGHT AT THE MOMENT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS HERE. UM ONE OF WHICH WAS YOU MENTIONED? I THINK THREE HOUSES PER ACRE. FIGURES DON'T LIE. BUT LIARS FIGURE THESE ARE 7 TO 8000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. THAT MEANS THOSE ARE 5 TO 6 HOUSES. PER ACRE. WHEN YOU THROW IN THE PARKS IN THE PONDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE NOW YOUR AVERAGE GOES UP. THESE ARE POSTAGE STAMP LOTS THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TURN SIDEWAYS TO GET DOWN BETWEEN THE HOUSES. WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THE ELEVATIONS, THE FIRST THING THAT POPPED INTO MY MIND. OH, THESE ARE MIRANDA HOMES. NOW WITH WHAT? HE TOLD ME THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE SEEN MIRANDA HOMES. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M REFERRING TO? UH BUT WE'RE SAYING THESE ARE 354 100,000 PLUS DOLLAR HOUSES. SO MAYBE THAT ASSUMPTION IS OFF. MAYBE I'M WRONG ON THAT. BUT I KNOW MY TIME IS PROBABLY RUNNING SHORT HERE. I'M GOING TO LEAVE YOU WITH ONE LAST THING. UM THE DEVELOPMENT OF MARYSVILLE OUT OF CONTROL AND SICK AND TIRED OF THE TRAFFIC, SICK AND TIRED OF ANYTHING OF EVERYTHING, CONSIDERING THAT I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE PUT IN A TOUGH SPOT. YOUR HANDS ARE TIED SOMETIMES SOMETIMES, AND I WANT TO HELP YOU OUT WITH THAT. I'M RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL WAR TO WHICH IS WHERE THIS IS GOING IN. AS SOON AS I GET ELECTED, I'M GOING TO PUSH FOR MORATORIUM. WE'RE NOT GONNA GREEN LIGHT ANYMORE PROJECTS UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND THAT. WE'RE GOING TO GET EVERYBODY IN A BIG ROOM. ALL THESE DEVELOPERS AND FIND OUT THANK YOU, SIR. BUT YOU'RE A PASTOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GUYS HAVE A GOOD. YEAH. MY NAME IS TRICIA COSETTE AND I LIVE AT 14 58 ADINA POINT DRIVE , AND I JUST HAVE SOME QUESTIONS TO ADD BECAUSE I CAN ASK AND HE'LL ANSWER. SO YOU MENTIONED

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IS THAT TURNING OR ARE WE EVER WROTE? IS THAT TURNING RIGHT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT IS THAT WHERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING THOSE QUICK SO THAT SECTION OF WE WERE ROAD WOULD GET WIDENED RIGHT THERE AND ONLY THAT SECTION HOW WOULD THAT WORK ? ANSWERING QUESTIONS IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE LEADING THE WITNESS, BUT I'M GENUINELY DON'T KNOW. FUNCTION I MEAN THE ANSWER RIGHT NOW. SURE, SURE, OKAY. DON'T INSTALL A LEFT AND RIGHT HAND TURN INTO THE DEVELOPMENT THAT MEETS ALL OF ODA STANDARDS, SO IT WOULD JUST BE RIGHT AT THAT LOCATION. BUT THAT THAT SECTION WOULD GET A LITTLE WIDER TO CORRECT. YEAH, I MEAN, YEP. DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HOW LONG THAT SECTION WOULD BE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT REQUIREMENTS ARE I MEAN, UM , JUST GOING TO BE AN AWKWARD I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, IT'S ALL BASED ON CALCULATIONS, BUT MAYBE A TURN. LANE MIGHT BE 150 FT IN EACH DIRECTION, GIVE OR TAKE A LITTLE BIT. NO, NO, I HAVE TO RUN THOSE NUMBERS. OKAY AND DO YOU KNOW LIKE HOW FAR INTO PROPERTIES THEY WOULD HAVE TO CUT TO WIDEN THAT ROAD? I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR INTO THE PROPERTY PROPERTIES THEY WOULD HAVE TO WIDEN. OKAY, THAT INTERSECTION WOULD OCCUR WITHIN THEIR PROPERTY. SO PROBABLY BE JUST ON THEIR PARCEL, THOUGH, RIGHT? OKAY AND THEN I THINK HE MENTIONED UM I THINK IT MAYBE IT WASN'T AT CHESTNUT AND FIFTH, HE SAID WE WERE IN FIFTH, BUT I KNOW SOMEBODY ADDRESSED. TURNING LEFT ONTO FIFTH FROM CHESTNUT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE ANYMORE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS WHAT HE WAS MENTIONING WHERE THE POSITIVE STILL DISCUSSING IMPROVEMENTS ON PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY AND THEN WEAVER IN FIFTH. I'M ASSUMING THAT WAS CHESTNUT IN FIFTH RIGHT THERE. OKAY AND THEN HE MENTIONED FENCING THAT EVERY HOUSE WILL BE FENCED. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW TALL ARE THOSE FENCES IN WHAT TYPE OF FENCING WILL BE USED FOR THOSE BACKYARDS? I THINK SOMEBODY MAY HAVE ANSWERED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE NUMBER OF HOME A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE HOMES. I THINK YOU ASKED THE QUESTION, BUT HE NEVER REALLY ANSWERED THAT QUESTION. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. IS THERE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE HOMES? AND THEN THERE'S CONFUSION IN EDINA POINT RIGHT NOW, ONE OF THE REALTORS MENTIONED THAT SHE THOUGHT IT WAS NOT AMERICA'S HOMES FOR RENT . HE WAS TRYING TO DEVELOP THIS, BUT IS THAT IN FACT THE COMPANY WHO WILL BE RENTING THE HOMES? I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATE. HI MY NAME IS WHAT TABOR I LIVE AT. 15 37 ASHER COURT. THANK YOU ALL FOR HEARING US AND THANK YOU ALL OUR NEIGHBORS FOR BEING HERE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. SO ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS I HAVE OBVIOUSLY AS TRAFFIC. I JUST CAN'T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND HOW CHESTNUT SLASH WEAVER ROAD WOULD ACCOMMODATE THAT MANY MORE CARS TO SUPPORT THOSE HOMES. I'M HEARING FOR THE FIRST TIME TONIGHT. AMERICAN HOMES FOR RENT . UM I WAS AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING LAST TIME WHEN WE WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP THIS FROM HAPPENING, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYONE OF YOU TO LOOK UP THEIR REVIEWS ON BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU, EVEN ON YELP.

THAT'S NOT WHO I WANT MANAGING HOMES IN PROXIMITY TO ME. SO THAT'S RIGHT. MY NAME'S RICK BORDNER LIVE AT 14671 WEAVER ROAD, BUT I ALSO HAVE 14 400. WE WERE ROAD, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS. SO WE KIND OF TOUCHED ON IT ON THE LEFT. TURN RIGHT TURN KIND OF INTERESTED IN THAT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T DIRECTLY IMPACT MY HOME IN FRONT OF ME. BUT ALSO THE IMPACT OF IF THIS BECOMES A CITY PARK. IS THAT GOING TO ALSO INCLUDE THE LEFT HAND? I NEED A RIGHT HAND TURN AND LEFT INTERNALLY BECAUSE IF IT DOES NOW YOU'RE TAKEN 300 FT OR MORE.

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THERE USED TO BE DEAR, WHERE THE CHESTNUT RIGID IS RIGHT. THEY HAD TO RELOCATE ONCE ONCE WE EVER WENT UP. YOU DON'T SEE THEM ANYMORE, RIGHT? I ALSO HAVE TWO LITTLE KIDS CAMDEN AND KNOW WHEN THEY'RE SIX AND EIGHT, RESPECTIVELY. REYNOLD WHY? WHY DO WE NEED RENTAL PROPERTIES? YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF RIFF RAFF YOU'RE GOING TO BRING INTO THE HOUSE OR INTO THAT COMMUNITY. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT PUTS ALL OF OUR CHILDREN GRANDCHILDREN. I'M CERTAIN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOUR WILL BE IMPACTED IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, RIGHT? SO I'M COMPLETELY AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT'S A RENTAL PROPERTY. BUT BECAUSE MARYSVILLE HAS FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. SEVEN YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE HAS DONE NOTHING BUT GROW, GROW, GROW GROW, BRING MORE AND MORE AND MORE WE'VE FAILED TO DEVELOP OUR INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE COMING INTO THIS COMMUNITY AND WE NEED TO START START BUILDING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE. AND NOT JUST BUILDING A MCDONALD'S, YOU KNOW, ADDING THE THIRD FREAKIN MCDONALD'S INTO OUR INTO OUR COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS THAT INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE, SO I TOO, LIKE JOHN MARSHALL AND RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL WAR TO PLEASE VOTE FOR ME, ZACK BORDNER. THANK YOU. TO BE EATEN. YES, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING. CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? AMY POTTER, GRIM 14 TO 94. WE WERE ROAD. I'M GOING TO ADDRESS SOME THINGS THAT WERE ON THE APPLICATION THAT NEED PRETTY MUCH THAT ARE HUGE CONCERNS. SO IN THE P U D NARRATIVE TEXT UNDER PERMITTED USES SUB AREA A IT SAYS ALL USE IS PERMITTED UNDER SISI. EXCUSE ME. I ALSO NEED THIS 11 21.07. SO IF YOU GUYS GO TO THAT MUNICIPAL CODE BECAUSE I ASSUME WE ALL DID RIGHT. IT SAYS THAT IN THERE AS A PERMITTED USE CHILDCARE RESIDENTIAL MODEL HOMES, RESIDENTIAL CARE FACILITY OF 1 TO 5, UNRELATED PEOPLE. RESIDENTIAL CARE FACILITY OF 6 TO 8, UNRELATED PEOPLE AND THEN OBVIOUSLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES DETACHED. SO ARE WE OPENING A CHILDCARE FACILITY IN THIS A RESIDENTIAL MODEL HOME. ARE WE DOING GROUP HOMES IN HERE BUT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THEIR APPLICATION. SO IF WE CAN GET THAT CLARIFIED THAT ONE HAS BEEN ADDRESSED BY THREE IT'S BEEN REMOVED. IT'S NOT IN THE UPDATED BECAUSE I PULLED IT UP TODAY. SO YEAH, THERE HASN'T BEEN AN UPDATED APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED ONLINE YET AND THEN, ONCE AGAIN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE OR KNOW EXACTLY WHO OWNS THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED TO THE DEVELOPER. BUT WHO'S BUILDING THIS PROPERTY AND WHO WILL OWN IT? AND LET'S CALL IT A MANAGEMENT COMPANY. LET'S TAKE OUT A OKAY H O A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF MY H O A BUT LET'S TAKE IT OUT. LET'S CALL IT WHAT IT IS. IT'S A MANAGEMENT COMPANY. MR BARUCH WAS NOT TRANSPARENT AT THE LAST MEETING UNTIL SOMEBODY ON ZONING ASKED SPECIFICALLY IF THIS WAS A RENTAL COMMUNITY, IT IS HARD PRESSED IN THEIR APPLICATION OF 105 PAGES TO FIND THE WORD RENTAL ANYWHERE. SO PLEASE, LET'S BE TRANSPARENT. I HAVE SOME ISSUES LIVING ON

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THAT'S WHAT WE LOVED ABOUT ARE LOCKED. UM. AND IF THIS HAS TO BE BUILT, WHY DOES IT HAVE TO COME INTO ADINA POINT AT WE, UM BUCK MEYER AND THE OTHER WEAVER RIVA RIDGE. I DON'T WANT THIS AND IF IT HAS TO BE HERE, THEN LET IT BE THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO COME TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD. WHY DOES IT HAVE TO CONNECT? OKAY. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. HMM. ALL RIGHT, HONEY. AH YES. ONE

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I THINK IT'S GOING TO BRING UP CRIME, AND I JUST THINK GENERALLY IT'S A REALLY BAD DECISION FOR NOBODY LEAVES COACH LIGHTS ON. SO THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MONA RONALD AND I LIVE ON WEAVER ROAD. AND I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE DOLLAR OR WHATEVER. BUT I'M HERE BECAUSE WE LIVE ON RE WAIVER ROAD. WE DESERVE RESPECT FOR THE WAY WE LIVE. WE CHOSE THAT WAY TO LIVE.

WE COME IN TOWN. WE BUY AND SELL, BUT WE GO BACK TO OUR HOME. WE'VE HAD TO PUT UP WITH TERRIBLE TRAFFIC ON WEAVER ROAD. THAT HAS NOT BEEN REALLY COVERED. BUT NOW WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER THINGS. AND WHY, WHEN YOU HAVE OTHER PLACES THESE PEOPLE COULD GO IN THAT THINGS ARE THERE. I FIND THAT REALLY IRRITATING THAT YOU CAN'T HANDLE THAT WHEN THERE'S PLACES FOR THEM TO GO THAT HAS BEEN OKAYED. THAT ISN'T GOING TO INVOLVE ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD THEIR HOMES AND LIVES THERE FOR YEARS. AND I HOPE YOU CONSIDER THAT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS RICHARD CLARKE. 14 200 WEAVER ROAD. WE LIVE ON FIVE ACRES. WE MOVED. I MOVED BACK TO THIS AREA A LITTLE OVER 10 YEARS AGO. I WANT OUT OF COLUMBUS. I WANT AWAY FROM THE NONSENSE. OKAY ANYMORE HERE. ALL EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO IS DEVELOP AND ANNEX AND ANNEX AND DEVELOP AND ALL IT'S GONNA DO IS GOING TO TURN THIS AREA INTO ANOTHER GROVE CITY OR ANOTHER HILLIARD AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT THAT. WE WANT TO KEEP THE SMALL TOWN OF MARYSVILLE AS IT IS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I AM J. EVANS. I LIVE AT 14155 WEAVER ROAD. I'M NOT RUNNING FOR ANY OFFICE. MUCH OF WHAT I HAD CONCERNS ABOUT HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED. BUT ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE IS THE DENSITY OF THE AREA FOR THE HOMES. UNLIKE MOST PEOPLE IN HERE, I'M AGAINST THE ENTIRE PROJECT FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. AGRICULTURAL LAND. WE LOSE 2 MILLION ACRES A YEAR IN THIS COUNTRY FROM FOR AGRICULTURAL LAND, A MILLION OF IT FOR DEVELOPMENT AND A MILLION OF IT FOR EROSION, SO TO LOSE MORE LAND THAT WE PUT SLAB HOUSES ON THAT WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO PLOW UP AND PLANT CROPS AGAIN. UM CONCERNING, BUT MY CONCERN IS ON THESE HOMES WITH THEIR DENSITY IF YOU LOOK AT CHESTNUT RUN AND SEE HOW THOSE HOUSES ARE PUT TOGETHER AND WITH THE SAME SIZE OF LOT YOU CAN'T RIDE A BICYCLE BETWEEN THEM, AT LEAST AT A HIGH SPEED. AND HMM, THEORETICALLY, THEY CAN PUT TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE AND TWO CARS OUT IN THE STREET OR OUT ON THE DRIVEWAY. THERE'S NO ON STREET PARKING THERE, EITHER. BUT PEOPLE DON'T AS I DRIVE BY. THEY DON'T PUT THE CARS IN THE GARAGE . THEY PUT HIM IN THE YARD BECAUSE THEY PUT ALL THEIR OTHER JUNK IN THE GARAGE. LIKE ALL OF US, YOU KNOW, SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THIS AREA. IF THAT'S FINAL DECISION, I THINK THESE LOTS NEED TO BE DEEPER AND FEWER. TO ALLOW A DECENT AREA TO BE DEVELOPED FOR FAMILIES TO GROW IN AND NOT JAMMED TOGETHER . IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE FUTURE IS, GO LOOK AT CHESTNUT RUN AND YOU'LL SEE HOW IT IS. THAT'S NOT THE DISPARAGED TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE. I KNOW THAT THEY NEED HOMES AS WELL. BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE

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MY NAME IS DENNIS. EARL I LIVE AT 13860 STATE ROUTE 7 36. READ WRITE DOWN HERE IS PART OF THE 60 ACRES. THAT IS VERY MY FAMILY FOR FOUR GENERATIONS. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT TWO THINGS. ONE IS THE DRAINAGE. THE GROUND HERE, SLOPES. GEORGE MY PROPERTY. PUTTING A LOT OF PAVEMENT IN A LOT OF HOUSES. AND THERE'S NO LONGER THAN THE FARMLAND ABSORBING THE MOISTURE.

IT'S GOTTA GO SOMEWHERE. IS THIS GOING TO BE TIED INTO THE CITY STORM SOURCE SYSTEM. OR IS IT EXPECTED TO JUST FLOW ON LAND AROUND? FIRST QUESTION. THE SECOND THING IS GOING UP THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE, WHETHER IT'S CALLED A SACK OR NOT. IF THAT'S NOT A CALL THE STAFF WHAT I SEE IS IMMINENT DOMAIN GOING AFTER THIS FARM FIELD OF MONEY. IT'S THE COLDEST BACK TO THE RIGHT.

IS THAT STILL YOURS? RED CIRCLES. CAN YOU BRING THOSE BACK UP? THE GREAT CIRCLE RIGHT THERE. THAT'S COOL. YES HE SAID , COULD BE A PROPHECY BACK. THAT'S INCORRECT. UM THAT'S A THAT'S A DEAD END INTO YOUR PROPERTY AND THAT CALLED THE SACK WILL ALSO BE A ROAD THAT THAT ENDS INTO YOUR PROPERTY. AFTER THINKING QUESTION PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR LOOKING AT HIM AND DONATED AFTER ROAD. NO DEAD END. THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF TIMES THEY DEVELOPED THE SIR WITH THE ANTICIPATION THAT EITHER YOU OR YOUR FAMILY DOWN THE ROAD. MAYBE SELL THAT PROPERTY. WELL, THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS. HI MY NAME IS TOM RUSSELL. I LOVE IT. 14302 WEAVER ROAD AND THE DRIVEWAY TO THIS PLACE ON WEAVER ROAD. I CAN PULL STRAIGHT OUT MY DRIVE AND THEN TO 300 BEAUTIFUL NEW HOMES, SO THEY SAY. STRAIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD.

NOW I GOT A LOT OF REALLY GOOD NEIGHBORS IN HERE. A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE. BUT I DON'T THINK YOU CAN TELL ME ALL THAT'S GOING TO BE GOOD PEOPLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I LIKED OVER. I LOVE THAT 14471 EAST. TWO PARCELS RIGHT HERE. AND I'M JUST CURIOUS BACK TO THE SRD VERSUS P U D, UM, LAST YEAR AT CITY COUNCIL, THE THIRD READING, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE SPECIFIC REASONS THAT THEY TURNED IT DOWN. WAS THEY CLAIM CITY COUNCIL SAID THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS THAT THIS AREA IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE ONE ACRE HOMES. SO HAS THAT CHANGED. THE PLAN CALLS OUT FIRST AND RESIDENTIAL, WHICH SHE . IT'S NOT LIKE GIRL. THE CURRENT ZONING CODE YEAH, CULTURAL RESIDENTIAL, SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THEY CAUGHT PLAN. CURRENT ZONING THROW. YOU ARE CORRECT. THOSE ARE ONE ACRE BLOCKS. YEAH, OKAY.

THANK YOU. UM WHAT'S CHANGED? HAS CHANGED. THIS APPLICANT IS ASKING TO MODIFY THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE PROPERTY TO DO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. AND IT WAS DEBORAH GROWTH THAT SPECIFICALLY BROUGHT THAT UP. I REMEMBER AND THEN WHAT WAS I THINKING OF ALSO, I'M CURIOUS IF WE'RE GOING TO KNOW, AND THERE'S A TRANSFER OF THE LAND FROM, UM THE CHURCH. THAT CURRENTLY OWNS IT THAT WAS DONATED TO THEM. TO THIS AMERICAN. WHAT IS IT A FOUR H OR SOMETHING? I'M CURIOUS WHAT WE'RE GONNA KNOW ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO KNOW ONE HOW MUCH THAT LANDS WORTH BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MILDLY AND MIGHT GO FOR, UM, PROBABLY NOT. BUT WHO KNOWS? AND TO JUST

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SO YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME IN THIS SPOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT THING WHERE 100 THERE'S PROBABLY 1000 GALLONS OF WATER. THAT COLLECT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I CAN SEE IT EVERY TIME IT RAINS. SO YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD 100 AND 50 HOMES. IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. AND WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GET RID OF ALL THAT WATER AND PUT YOUR SWORD MADE ADEQUATELY BUILT? COMPLETELY CLOSE TO THIS. I THINK IT RUINS EVERYTHING.

YOU'RE GOING AGAINST EVERYTHING THAT THIS TOWN BASICALLY STANSELL, I GREW UP IN HEALTHIER FROM 1998 TO 2005 YEARS NOW, RAPID EXPANSION DOESN'T GIVE GOOD FOR ANY PEOPLE LIVE IN MARRIAGE WILL BECAUSE THEY LOVE A SMALL TOWN COUNTRY FIELD. THAT'S WHY MY WIFE AND I NEED THAT THERE ARE LIVING OFF OF 31 OFF OF COMMON FLAT THROUGH HAD $2. I HAD BIGGER HOME NOW IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UNFORTUNATE DEALING WITH THIS 298 HOMES WITH UP TO MY PRESIDENT'S PER HOUSEHOLD AND FOUR CARS. AND YOU KNOW ALL THESE OTHER ISSUES WITH THE INTERSECTION OF CHESTNUT LIKE THEY SAID, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. MAKE A LEFT. TURN LEFT. YOU'RE NOT THE CHESTNUT. IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN ON THE CHEST. UM SO YEAH, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THESE TRAFFIC IMPACT. THINGS ARE NOT LOOKING AT EVERYTHING THAT'S COMING INTO . IT'S JUST FEEDING. YEAH COUNTRY RECORD IS PRETTY OPEN. THERE'S A LOT OF COMMON TRAFFIC , BUT LIKE THE NICE LADY SAID EARLIER, 4 30 TO 6. 7 TO 9. YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE HAVING THE ALL THE WAY ACROSS TOWN BECAUSE ALL THESE KIDS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT'S A MILL VALLEY. AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DAVE HUBER AND I'M AT 13 13 5 WEAVER ROAD. MARYSVILLE PLAYING IN COMMISSION. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THIS IS MY SECOND TIME HERE, AND I DON'T KNOW ANY OF YOU. WHY DON'T WE HAVE NAME TAGS? WE HAVE FOUR OR FOR EMPLOYEES OF THE MARYSVILLE HERE. PUT THOSE NAME TAGS UP. YOUR YOUR CITIZENS WANT TO SEE THOSE? WE WANT TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE. THAT'S BEEN TO SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS.

EVERYBODY'S POSTED NAME TAGS HAVE BEEN THE OTHER MEETINGS. BE PROUD. PUT YOUR NAMES OUT THERE LOT OF SNOW, SO LET'S GET BACK TO HEAR THE BOTTOM LINE. WHY WE'RE IN HERE IS MR BARRETT WANTS TO MAKE MONEY AND HE WANTS TO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY. I THINK IF HE CAME TO THIS PROJECT BUILDING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES LIKE ADINA POINT. WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS SO I'VE BEEN TRAVELING ON WEAVER ROADS SINCE 1976. AS IT WIDENS HASN'T CHANGED, WE'VE ADDED. CHESTNUT RUN KEYSTONE CROSSING, ADINA POINT AND WEAVER RIDGE, AND THERE'S NO TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY.

COME ON, THAT'S WRONG. IT'S WRONG. YOU CAN'T GET YOUR MAIL FROM 3 TO 6 CROSSING WEAVER ROAD CORRECT HAVE TO BE AN ENGINEER TO UNDERSTAND. WEAVER ROADS BEEN IMPACTED BY FOUR HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS. NOW THEY WANT TO THROW 300 MORE IN GIVE US LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS. SINGLE FAMILY HOMES LIKE ADINA POINT. PEOPLE COULD ACCEPT THAT TO MAKE MR BARRETT RICH TO SHOVING 298

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THAT'S SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IT IS, BUT ITS IMPACT ON OUR LIVES AND THE PEOPLE HERE. IT'S IN ACTING US. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. OKAY? MY NAME IS PATRICIA STALLS ER AND I LIVE AT 2076 DERBY DRIVE IN MILL VALLEY AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE SEE IN MILL VALLEY IS THIS AMERICAN HOME RENTALS? I RIDE MY BICYCLE, AND I CAN POINT OUT EACH HOME THAT IS OWNED BY AMERICAN HOMES. THEY LOOK TERRIBLE. THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, COMMENT FREQUENTLY WHEN THEY COME TO THE POOL AND OTHER COMMON AREAS. THAT THEY'RE TREATED POORLY BY THIS COMPANY THAT THE RENT IS ATROCIOUS. SOME OF THOSE HOMES WHEN YOU RIDE BY THEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK LIKE SLUMS AND I COME FROM ALLEN COUNTY AND LIMA AREA, AND THIS SORT OF THING CAME IN AND DESTROYED, THE COMMUNITY. CRIME WENT RAMPANT. WE ALREADY KNOW THERE'S PARTS OF MILL VALLEY WHERE THERE'S LOTS OF DRUGS BEING SOLD. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING AND THIS SORT OF AREA? AND WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT HOW WHO'S GOING TO BE LIVING IN THOSE THE RENT? I HEARD SHE IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING LIKE 2500 A MONTH. RENTERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PILE IN MULTIPLE FAMILIES TO PAY THAT KIND OF RENT. AND THERE AGAIN, WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE WILL BE BROUGHT TO THAT AREA AND ALSO IMPACTING ALL OF THE COMMUNITY I'VE SEEN. WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR EIGHT YEARS, AND WE'VE SEEN A BIG CHANGE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND I CAN'T SAY IT'S POSITIVE. THE GROWTH HAS GONE ON TOO FAST TO END THE INFRASTRUCTURE. I USED TO BE AN EMERGENCY ROOM NURSE.

MY HUSBAND WAS A POLICE OFFICER . WE UNDERSTAND A LOT ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE. MARYSVILLE IS NOT READY FOR THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. AND THE LAST THING WE NEED IS 300 MORE RENTALS BY A COMPANY THAT ALREADY DOES A SHODDY JOB IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT ANYONE ELSE AT THIS TIME YOU NEED MORE. WE WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK TO SOMEONE ELSE GOT TWO MORE. HI MY NAME IS JUNE EVANS. I LIVE AT 14155 WEAVER ROAD. WITHIN THEIR FOR 43 YEARS. AND I KNOW THE CITY HAS TO GROW. BUT TO PUT FOUR HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS. RIGHT NOW. OUT ON LEVER ROAD, CHESTNUT STREET WEAVER ROAD. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S IMPACTING AS IMPACTING KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL IS IMPACTING US AS HOMEOWNERS OUT ON OUR PROPERTY, TRYING TO ENJOY IT. BUT THE TRAFFIC IS ATROCIOUS, AND IT BECOMES A SPEED WAY BETWEEN MORNING TRAFFIC AND EVENING TRAFFIC. IT'S DANGEROUS TO BE OUT THERE AS A LITTLE KID OR A GROWN UP EVEN TRYING TO CROSS THE STREET . I'VE GOT A BROTHER IN LAW THAT LIVES TWO DOORS DOWN, AND HE SOMETIMES HAS TROUBLE GETTING CROSS THE STREET. I CAN'T IMAGINE IF HE FALLS. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO BE HIT? BECAUSE IT'S JUST A SPEED ZONE FOR THE PEOPLE COMING FROM COLUMBUS TO GO HOME , WHETHER IT BE ONE OF THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS OR OTHER

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THANK YOU. TYLER SPARKS LIVE AT 15 85 DIXON, DR DANA 0.1 OF THE THINGS I THOUGHT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO LOOK INTO WOULD BE A AS SHE WOULD JUST TALKED ABOUT. WE WERE EDGED TO SCOTTS LAWN. IF THERE WAS, I DON'T KNOW, STOPLIGHT OR SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO BE PLACED IN THERE. IF THIS DOES MOVE FORWARD, ALL THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BE TURNING ONTO THEIR AND GOING INTO TOWN. MOST OF THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING OUT TOWARDS LIKE WALMART. AND I I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE ROADS CALLED BUTTS AT, LIKE, FIVE POINT ROAD RIGHT THERE BY LIKE THE DAIRY QUEEN AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT ALL THE EXTRA TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO ADD INTO THERE AND THEN SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN LOOKING INTO IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AND IF THIS DOES FAIL AS A RENTAL PROPERTY, AND THEY ACTUALLY DO HAVE TO SELL THE HOMES. IS THIS A WAY TO ACTUALLY SKIRT AROUND? PUTTING A HOUSE ON A SMALLER PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THEN JACKING UP THAT RENT UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO SELL THOSE HOUSES. JUST SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS SCOTT BEER LINE I LIVE AT 13 83 WOULD LINE AND I JUST LIKE TO SPEAK FOR THE BIKERS OUT THERE. UM IT'S KIND OF A JOKE WHEN YOU SEE THE BIKE PATH PAINTED ON CHESTNUT. I DON'T EVEN FEEL SAFE DRIVING ON THAT ROAD. PEOPLE PARK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD. THE SIDEWALKS ARE NON EXISTENT WHERE THEY ARE . THEY'RE ATROCIOUS. SO THE GUY IN THE WHEELCHAIR OR THE AMIGOS HAVE TO BE IN THE STREET. AND RIGHT WHERE THAT AMIGO COMES OUT INTO THE STREET LAST WEEK, THERE WAS A CAR TOTALED RIGHT THERE. SAT THERE ALL WEEK. I MEAN, IT'S REAL AESTHETIC, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS? I JUST WANT TO SPEAK FOR SAFETY. I MEAN, THE KIDS THAT LIVE ALONG THERE. IN THE SCHOOL, BUS, TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND THEN YOU CAN PUT THIS KIND OF DENSITY RENTALS . FROM WHAT I HAVE HEARD OF THIS RENTAL OUTFIT. NO. SLOW THIS DOWN UNTIL WE CAN END THE LEAST ADDRESS SAFETY ISSUES AND CHESTNUT. A REAL BIKE PATH. A REAL STREET. IT'S NOT A REAL STREET. AND YOU'RE ADDING THIS MANY MORE HOMES. KIND OF LIKE.

THE SAME INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPED AND BELIEVE YOUR OWN VILLAGE. NICE VILLAGE. UM. THEY WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM, BUT THOSE POOR PEOPLE. ARE BOUNDED BY THE HIGHWAY. THEY HAVE TO GET OUT OF MITCHELL DEWITT. TO INDUSTRIAL. THAT'S THAT'S BACKED UP EVERY DAY.

MITCHELL, THE WEDDING INDUSTRIAL . ALL THOSE PEOPLE PAYING REALLY GOOD MONEY FOR HOMES. OR 42 INDUSTRIAL YEAH. NOW WE GOT CHESTNUT AND FIST STREET. GO FIGURE. THANK YOU, SIR.

CONNECTING HMM. OKAY I DIDN'T STAND. I'M SORRY, CHUCK. I LOVE IT. WHAT SWEET. YEAH UH, SO DO

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HELLO MY NAME IS TOM HAMPTON, 11 13 880, WEAVER WROTE. I WAS BORN IN MANSFIELD. I LIVED IN WHAT WE CALL THE CLUSTER HOUSING. VERY SMALL LARCH. WE PLAYED IN THE STREET. BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH PROPERTY TO ACTUALLY PLAY A GAME ON DAD BOUGHT THAT HOUSE BACK IN 41. I SOLD THAT HOUSE 40 YEARS LATER, WHEN MY MOTHER DIED FOR $8000. WHY? BECAUSE PEOPLE DID NOT WANT TO LIVE THERE. AND THEY CREATED A REAL PROBLEM BECAUSE THAT NOW IS THE SLUMS OF MANSFIELD. AND I LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THIS PROPERTY. I LOOK AT THE WAY IT'S CONSTRUCTED. I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN MEETINGS LIKE THIS. I WAS A GENERAL CONTRACTOR IN COLUMBUS. I SPENT A LOT OF TIME GETTING THE MOST SQUARE FOOTAGE OF BUILDING ON THE LEAST AMOUNT OF PROPERTY. IT DIDN'T WORK. I STARTED WATCHING THE BUILDING INDUSTRY RESIDENTIAL. WE DIDN'T DO RESIDENTIAL. WE WERE COMMERCIAL BUT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THAT THEY SAID YOU HAD TO HAVE 80 FT WIDTH AND 120 FT LENGTH THAT WAS MINIMUM. I LOOK AT THOSE PROPERTIES TODAY THEY'RE VERY VIABLE. I LOOKED AT. RICHIE HOMES ARE PRETTY HOMES. RYAN HOMES DEVELOPMENTS THEY DID. THEY'RE BECOMING SLUMS. WHY BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE. AMBITION TO REALLY TAKE CARE OF THINGS. SO WHAT HAPPENS? THEY ENDED UP WRITTEN THEM. AND THAT GOES RIGHT DOWN THE DRAIN. NOW THIS GENTLEMAN'S TALKING ABOUT RENTING A NEW ONE. IT DOESN'T FLY. I THINK IT'S TIME THAT THIS COMMISSION OR WHATEVER YOU FOLKS ARE. TAKE A STEP BACK. AND SHORT LOOKING AT OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY. AND DO A MASTER PLAN

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BUT I CAN ADDRESS THE DEMANDS HERE AND THE IMPACT ON IT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING BY FUNDING THE TURN LANES AND THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS WERE DOING, UM, CALMING MEASURES JUST WANT TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY BECAUSE BECAUSE YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT WAS DONE DURING SCHOOL TIMES, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION WAS HUGE JUST MEANT THAT SCHOOL WAS IN SESSION SCHOOL'S IN SESSION BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE HAD QUESTIONS IN THE PAST WERE PEOPLE ASK WHETHER IT WAS DURING SCHOOL. IT WILL WHETHER IT'S SUMMER OR NON SUMMER BECAUSE OF CHANGES IN TRAFFIC, BUT IT WAS STILL NOT JUST THE COUPLE OF HOURS ON BUSSES ARE ON THE ROAD . 100% IT IS. IT IS WIND SCORES AND SESSION NOT DURING THE SUMMER HOURS. THAT'S IT CHANGES A TRAFFIC STUDY SIGNIFICANTLY. BUT KNOWING THAT THE CHILD'S LIFE WHAT COULD YOU DESCRIBE WHAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY HOW IT'S DONE. UH IT WAS ESSENTIALLY YOU SIT DOWN. YOU NEGOTIATE AN MOU WITH THE CITY, THE CITY ENGINEERING AND KYLE SUGGEST SITUATION. WE IDENTIFY WHAT? UM INTERSECTIONS THAT WE WANT TO MONITOR. IN THIS CASE. WE WENT ALL THE WAY UP WEAVER ROAD. UM AND WE ALSO ARE MODIFYING IT TO GO DOWN WEAVER ROAD AS WELL. MOST OF THE TRAFFIC FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT GOES SOUTH ON WEAVER ROAD. MOST OF THE EDUCATION TRAFFIC GOES NORTH AND MOST OF YOUR SERVICES. YOU MAY GO BACK INTO THE CITY, BUT SOMEBODY HAD MENTIONED YOU'RE PROBABLY COMING AROUND TO COLEMAN CROSSING THAT IS SCOTTS LAWN UP AROUND TO WALMART TO MYERS AND ALL THOSE SORT OF THINGS. SO THE TRAFFIC STUDY YOU IDENTIFY WHAT INTERSECTIONS NEED TO BE STUDIED. WE HIRE A COMPANY THAT GOES OUT. IT'S ALL PAID FOR BY THE DEVELOPER. WE HIRE COMPANY THAT GOES OUT THAT CERTIFIED TO DO TRAFFIC STUDIES, AND THEY PUT UP CAMERAS. THEY USED TO PUT LITTLE RUBBER THINGS IN THE STREET AND YOU GO FROM THUMP ACROSS THEM. AND IT WOULD COUNT THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES ETCETERA. NOW THEY USE CAMERAS, SO THEY POSTED CAMERAS AT THE INTERSECTION. THEY TAKE AN EVALUATION OF A NUMBER OF DAYS FROM THAT TRAFFIC, AND THEN THEY RUN IT THROUGH THEIR STATISTICAL MODELS, AND IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT THE BASELINE TRAFFIC THAT IS.

THERE CURRENTLY IS. THEN THEY GO TO MORSI, WHICH IS MIDDLE OHIO REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION.

THEY MAINTAIN GROWTH RATES FOR CITIES COUNTIES ALL OVER THE 11 COUNTY AREA. THEY PROVIDE GROWTH RATES THAT GET APPLIED TO THE EXISTING TRAFFIC. SO DINA POINT AND SOME OF THESE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE OUT THERE. THEY MAY NOT BE AT FULL CAPACITY, SO THEY MODIFY AND TAKE THE GROWTH RATES MULTIPLIED BY THE EXISTING TRAFFIC. THEN THEY MAKE ESTIMATES AS TO WHERE THIS TRAFFIC IS GOING TO GO, AND THEY ADD THAT TO THE MODEL, THEN THEY EVALUATE WHAT THE INTERSECTIONS A B C D E F WHATEVER. I DON'T THINK THEY USE E YOU THINK THEY GO D TO F BUT UM AND I IDENTIFY WHAT WHAT INTERSECTIONS ARE IMPACTED, AND IF THEY ARE AT A GRADE THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE, THEN THEY START RUNNING SCENARIOS AS TO WHAT IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE MADE. IS IT A RIGHT TURN LANE LEFT TURN LANE. WHAT CAN MODIFY THAT TO BRING IT BACK IN, SO IT IS A VERY SIGNIFICANT THE TRAFFIC STUDIES. 100 100, PLUS PAGES. IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE DOCUMENT TO DO A LOT OF DEVELOPERS THAT GO STRAIGHT ZONING DO NOT DO A TRAFFIC STUDY BECAUSE IT'S NOT REQUIRED. UM I'VE ALWAYS DONE TRAFFIC STUDIES FOR THE MOST PART. ON ON PROJECTS SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT IN THE P U D IT IS REQUIRED, BUT IT IS A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT DOCUMENT. IT IS IN SHARED WITH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY ENGINEER AND THEY GO THROUGH IT. AND WE HAVE A DISCUSSION. UM IN THIS CASE, THE ACTUAL TURN LANES LIKE I SAID, DID NOT WARRANT PER THE TRAFFIC AND THAT'S EXISTING THE GROWTH RATE AND THIS, BUT WE AGREED TO PUT HIM IN BOTH ENGINEERS, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY ENGINEER. ASK US IF WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT AND WE SAID YES. UM THE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE NORTH THAT WE'RE STILL DEBATING . SOME OF IT IS STRIPING.

THERE'S AN AREA THEY WOULD LIKE, STRIPED AND YOU KNOW, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE FUNDS TO DO IT SO THEY CAN ASK A DEVELOPER. I CAN SAY NO, BUT WE SAID WE'D CONSIDER IT AND CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. THE CALMING MEASURES IS A JUST FOR CLARITY. I THINK, UH, COMMENT MAY HAVE BEEN, UM IDENTIFIED THE WRONG AREA STRIPING IS FIFTH TURNING ONTO CHESTNUTS. CORRECT STRIPING IS AT THE CHESTNUT AND FIFTH INTERSECTIONS, SO VEHICLES VEHICLES DRIVING ON HISTORY INTO THE UPTOWN, TURNING LEFT ONTO CHESTNUT STREET GOING SOUTH. AND I BELIEVE SOME OF THAT STRIPING ACTUALLY TAKES OUT SOME OF THE PARKING SPACES AND I DON'T WANT TO CREATE A WAR UPON ON CHESTNUT ETCETERA, BUT TAKES OUT SOME OF THE PARKING SPACES. SOMEBODY MENTIONED AT THAT INTERSECTION, SO THEY ESSENTIALLY STRIPE THEM OUT. BUT THAT IS A PIECE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE ENGINEER'S OFFICE TO DETERMINE THE CALMING MEASURES IS NOT MY TERM. THAT IS A TERM SHE GUESSED CORRECTLY. IT IS A BLINKING LIGHT AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT SAYS THIS IS YOUR SPEED. IF PEOPLE WANT TO TRY TO MAX IT OUT, THAT'S SOMETHING BUT IT DOES BRING PEOPLE'S ATTENTION TO IT. I MEAN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY POLICE PUT THOSE LITTLE PORTABLE ONES OUT ALL THE TIME

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THEY ATTACHED RAVEN HILL TO US, 42 AND THEY'VE GOT FIVE LANES THERE THAT TRAFFIC COMES WITH COMMERCIAL AND A WHOLE BUNCH, BUT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WAS PUT IN PLACE. WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE POD, SO ABSOLUTELY, THE COLONEL IS BOTH RIGHT AND LEFT. IF THAT'S THE FINAL AGREEMENT, WHICH I DO BELIEVE THOSE TWO WILL BE THE MINIMUM THAT WE AGREED TO, UM, THOSE WOULD BE PUT IN PLACE WITH THE WITH THE OPENING OF THE FIRST HOUSES, AS WOULD THE AMENITY THAT THE CLUBHOUSE WOULD BE BUILT AT THAT POINT IN TIME MAJORITY OF THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS WILL EITHER BE DONE ON OUR LAND OR THE RIGHT AWAY. I DON'T HAVE THOSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN MEASURED OUT. UM I HAVE ASKED THE COUNTY THERE IS A SPEED CHANGE RIGHT THERE FROM THE SOUTHERN PART OF WEAVER ROAD. SOMEBODY MENTIONED IT'S A FREEWAY OR IT'S A I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS. RACETRACK SPEEDS SPEEDWAY. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS, UM , WE'VE ASKED THE COUNTY ENGINEER TO CONSIDER LOWERING THE SPEED FURTHER TO THE SOUTH ON THE ROAD. UM AND THAT ALLOWS A SAFER ACCESS INTO THIS. UM, I DO NOT HAVE THAT ANSWER BACK, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT HE IS CONSIDERING OR THEY ARE CONSIDERING FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE ONE GENTLEMAN THAT ASKED, WHY ARE WE ACCESSING THE WEAVER ROAD? THIS PARCEL IS ACCESS IS TO WEAVER WROTE THE FOCUS IN THE BACK. DON'T WANT TO SELL TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT THE BACK AND I CAN'T FORCE THEM TO SELL TO DEVELOP THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU WOULDN'T ADD 300 HOUSES HERE AND BRING IT THROUGH TO EXISTING COMMUNITIES. I DON'T THINK THAT OUTLET. I THINK THERE'S AS MANY PEOPLE THAT WILL COME OUT OF EDINA POINT OUT THIS INTERSECTION, WHICH THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DO, BECAUSE THEY'LL BE PUBLIC ROADS AS WILL COME BACK THE OTHER WAY. I'M NOT SO SURE WHERE THE FOLKS HERE WOULD BE GOING IF THEY WOULD ACCESS NORTH TO ADINA POINT UNLESS THEY'RE GOING TO A FRIEND'S HOUSE OR SOMETHING UP THAT WAY. I THINK MOST OF OUR TRAFFIC IS GOING TO GO TO WEAVER ROAD, AND THAT'S ALSO WHAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY PROJECTED. YEAH. GO AHEAD. JUST WEAVER. DON'T YEAH, NOW. IT IT DID. THE FAR NORTHERN INTERSECTION WAS FIFTH STREET, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE IMPACT OF OUR PROJECT ON THAT IS INCREMENTAL. THAT INTERSECTION I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU IS FAILING ALREADY. UM SO. WELL IT'S OUR IMPACT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS, BUT IS A VERY, VERY LITTLE AS PEOPLE GOING TO FIFTH. SO THAT INTERSECTION YOU CAN AGREE OR DISAGREE, BUT OTHER THAN COMING TO THE CITY COUNCIL, MOST THE SERVICES OF THIS MOST OF SERVICES WILL GO DOWN AND AROUND, BUT THE SCHOOLS WILL GO THAT WAY. UM ANYHOW, UM SO INFRASTRUCTURE FROM THE STANDPOINT, SOMEBODY ASKED WHAT WILL THE A MAINTAIN EVERYTHING INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE? SO THIS THIS IS A RENTAL PRODUCT. SO IF YOUR TOILET DOESN'T WORK, THEY WILL MAINTAIN THAT. SO THE ENTIRE VALUE OF THE HOUSE WHO OWNED THE HOUSE AMERICAN HOMES WILL OWN THE HOUSE 100. UM ONE ENTITY. I'VE SAID THAT IN THE PAST, UM BUT AMERICAN HOMES WILL OWN. THE GROUND WILL BUILD THE HOUSES AND WE'LL OWN EVERY ASPECT OF IT. AND THE TENANTS. THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN A THREE STORY WALK UP AND WE MENTIONED 298 UNITS, UM, THE APARTMENT PROJECT BEING BUILT AT 33 AND 31 IS 240 UNITS. UM A NORMAL APARTMENT PROJECT FROM A RENTAL STANDPOINT IS ANYWHERE FROM 242 300 UNITS, SO IT'S VERY SIMILAR IN THE RENTAL RANGE. THESE JUST HAPPENED TO BE DETACHED UNITS AND NOT A THREE STORY WALK UP. UM AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT

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UM THEY ALSO DON'T WANT TO KNOW THAT AND CENTRAL OHIO IF YOU PUT 15 TO 20 FT, IN BETWEEN THE HOUSES, YOU DON'T REALLY GAIN ANYTHING. THINK FROM A COMMUNITY OTHER THAN EXISTING MOWING OF THE SIDE YARDS, WHERE THE SIDE YARD CAPITAL OF THE WORLD WHEN IT COMES TO SIDE YARDS, BECAUSE ALL YOU DO IS POSSIBLY MO THEM, OR MAYBE PUT SOME TREES WITH THE EXCEPTION ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE HOMES. SO IT'S A DIFFERENT MARKET. THE FOLKS THAT ARE GOING HERE ARE ABSOLUTELY A DIFFERENT MARKET SEGMENT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. LIVING IN APARTMENT ONCE I CAN AFFORD A HOUSE. I LEFT THE APARTMENT WENT THERE, BUT THIS IS A DENSITY AND A MARKET SEGMENT THAT IS THERE. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT THE TENANTS. UM, AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS I HEARD RIFF RAFF . I HEARD SOME OTHER NAMES. AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE, BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU GOT TO REALIZE IN THIS MARKET. WHERE ARE YOUR KIDS? WHEN YOUR KIDS GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL AND THEY GO TO COLLEGE? IF THEY GO TO COLLEGE, AND THEY COME BACK, WHERE ARE THEY GOING? THIS HOUSING MARKET IN MARYSVILLE AND IN ALL OF CENTRAL HIGH OH, IS IN A CRISIS. THERE ARE NOT HOMES FOR THEM TO COME BACK TO AND TELL JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. I THINK IT'S FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO THERE WERE NOT APARTMENT RENTAL THREE STORY WALK UP APARTMENTS FOR THESE KIDS AND STUFF YOUNG FAMILIES TO RENT. THE YOUNG FAMILIES REALLY AREN'T THE TARGET MARKET. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, FOR THE THREE STORY WALK UP PRODUCT. THE EMPTY NESTERS AREN'T BUT THE EMPTY NESTER PRODUCT. IS NOW HERE WITH THE REDWOOD PROJECTS. TWO OF THOSE IN MARYSVILLE AND THE WILCOX PRODUCT AND THERE'S ADDITIONAL EMPTY NESTER PRODUCT COMING, BUT THIS IS FOR THE FAMILIES. THIS IS NOT MEANT TO HAVE NINE PEOPLE LIVING IN IT UNLESS YOU'VE GOT A FAMILY WITH SEVEN KIDS, UM, THE AND I'M JUMPING AROUND A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S COMING THROUGH ME. I DID NOT SAY THERE WOULD BE FOUR CARS PER HOUSEHOLD. WHAT I SAID WAS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS REGARDING PARKING, AND WHETHER ON STREET PARKING WAS INCLUDED. LOADED. THERE SHOULD BE ENOUGH PARKING SPACES WITH THE TWO INSIDE THE GARAGE AND THE TWO OUT. THAT IS A ZONING REQUIREMENT FROM FROM THAT MANDATE. SOMETIMES YOU WOULD NOT HAVE ON A RENTAL PROPERTY. YOU MAY NOT HAVE A GARAGE THREE STORY WALK UPS DON'T HAVE GARAGES, THEY MIGHT HAVE SOME DETACHED PRIVATE GARAGES. BUT YOU GET INTO HOW MANY PARKING SPACES YOU NEED TO DO. FROM THIS STANDPOINT, THERE SHOULD BE ENOUGH PARKING SPACES WITHOUT THE USE OF THE STREET NOW, WHETHER THE STREET IS AVAILABLE ON ONE SIDE OR NOT, WE WILL GO WITH CITY CODE TO DETERMINE THAT. UM BUT AGAIN, THE MAJORITY OF THESE ARE TARGETED FOR FAMILIES. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE THREE AND FOUR BEDROOMS THAT MARKET FOR RENT. 3 TO 4 BEDROOM FAMILY IS NOT IN CENTRAL OR IS NOT IN MARYSVILLE . FROM THE STANDPOINT, WHERE HAVE THE QUESTION WAS? WHERE HAVE THESE BEEN DEVELOPED BEFORE ? JEROME VILLAGE HAS A FOUR RENT SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCT. IT'S BEING DEVELOPED BY COASTAL RIDGE ON THE NORTHERN SECTION. IT'S ACTUALLY ENOUGH FAIRBANKS LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT. THEY'RE IN THERE AT 10 UNITS PER ACRE. THIS IS THREE UNITS PER ACRE. SO THEY'RE MUCH SMALLER HOUSES. THEY'RE ACTUALLY DUPLEXES ON ONE BEDROOM UNITS AND THEIR STANDALONE, TWO AND THREE BEDROOMS. THAT PRODUCT DOES NOT HAVE ATTACHED GARAGES THAT USES SURFACE PARKING WITH SOME PRIVATE GARAGES. BUT THAT IS THIS MARKET COMING FORWARD. AMERICAN HOMES HAS A PROJECT IN JEROME TOWNSHIP THAT THEY PASS THROUGH. THEY HAVE A PROJECT AT NORTHSTAR. I'VE DONE BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS WORK WITH THEM ON BOTH THOSE PROJECTS NORTH STAR, WHICH IS NORTH STAR GOLF COURSE . BEN TREE GOLF COURSE. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE GLINA AREA, THEY HAVE 100 UNITS. WHAT THEY'RE DOING OVER THERE.

THEY'VE GOT A PROJECT AND PICK RINGTONE AND THEY'VE GOT A NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECTS. THIS IS A DIFFERENT SIDE OF THE COMPANY. I'M NOT HERE TO EXPLAIN THE FOR RENT SIDE THAT THEY HAVE AND THE EXISTING MARKETS. THEY STARTED THIS ACQUISITION OF EXISTING PRODUCT BACK IN 2007 2008. THEY WERE BUYING BANKRUPTCY, DILAPIDATED HOMES. THEY WERE RENOVATING, AND THAT'S HOW THEY GOT TO 2000 UNITS ACROSS CENTRAL OHIO. THEY HAVE UNITS IN EVERY MARKET. UM HOW THEY MAINTAIN THEIR THINGS. I'VE SEEN THE PICTURES. I DON'T LIKE THEM. THIS IS A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY, AND IT IS A DIFFERENT SIDE OF THE SAME COMPANY. BUT THIS WILL BE MANAGED JUST LIKE MARY'S LITTLE FLATS, JUST LIKE KENMORE PLACE. AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN IN THOSE APARTMENTS LATELY, THIS IS NOT THEY DON'T HAVE VINYL OR LAMINATE. THEY HAVE WOOD FLOORS. THEY HAVE GO

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WE'RE GOING TO DO HARDIE PLANK AND THERE'S SOME OTHER MATERIALS IN THERE. AS FOR THE FENCE, THE FENCE IS ALL BE 48 INCH FOR, UH, CAN YOU CAN YOU FLIP MY PRESENTATION BACK? I HAVE A FEW OTHER SLIDES I CAN SHOW. THERE'LL BE 48. THEY'RE BLACK ALUMINUM FENCES. I'M GOING TO GET INTO MY SECRET SLIDES. SO HERE'S AN EXAMPLE. AND I BROUGHT THIS EXAMPLE BECAUSE OF THE TREE LINE THAT HAS THE WOODED SECTION UM NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME, BUT YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY MADE SOME ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS IN THE BACK , AND THERE'S A GRASS AREA THAT THEY'VE, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE WATERING RIGHT THERE. BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT TREE LINE ON THE WEST SIDE OF LOOK LIKE THE PLANTINGS. THAT YOU OR I HAVE RIGHT HERE. YOU CAN JUST ASSUME THAT THAT IS THE 30 35 FT

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AND EVEN ON HOMEBUILDERS, PRODUCTION BUILDERS. I'VE WORKED WITH JUST ABOUT EVERY PRODUCTION BUILDER IN CENTRAL OHIO. THEY MAY HAVE FIVE OR SIX FLOOR PLANS , BUT THEN THEY'LL PUT DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL STYLES. THEY'LL PUT A RANT OR THEY'LL PUT A CRAFTSMAN. THEY'LL PUT A GEORGIA AND THEY'LL PUT ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS ON IT TO MAKE THEM LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT. UM, SO I DON'T EXPECT ANY SIMILAR HOUSES TO BE BESIDE EACH OTHER, AND IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T PUT IN THERE AS A REPEAT PATTERN. UM, BUT I DON'T EXPECT PACKED THEM ALL TO BE. I THINK THAT THE COMMENT WAS FOR HOUSES AND JUST WITH THE ELEVATIONS. I THINK THERE WERE AT LEAST 12 ELEVATIONS THAT WERE SHOWN THERE. UM. WHAT ELSE DO YOU GOT? LET'S SEE. YEAH IT'S TREE LIGHTS SOON. YEAH THERE WILL BE LIGHTS WE HAVE SUBMITTED FOR LIGHTS AT THE ENTRY FEATURES. THERE ARE TWO ENTRY FEATURES ANNOUNCING OFF OF WEAVER ROAD, SO THERE WILL BE, UM DOWN LIGHTING ON THOSE SIGNS, WHICH WILL HELP PEOPLE FIND THE INTERSECTION THERE. AS FOR OTHER LIGHTING AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE ENGINEERING PROCESS AND IF SOMEBODY DEEMS AH, THAT A POST LIGHT WOULD BE THERE AND THE NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET. DON'T MIND THAT INTERSECTION BEING BRIGHTENED UP QUITE A BIT BY JUST A LIGHT ON THE POST. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED DURING THAT PROCESS, BUT WE WILL HAVE THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT THAT'S YEAH. WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF PUTTING STREETLIGHTS. THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IF YOU GO TO JEROME VILLAGE, LIKE I SAID THERE'S CURRENTLY OVER 1918 1900 HOUSES AND THERE'S NOT A SINGLE STREETLIGHT IN THAT ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT. UM AND IT HAS NOT BROUGHT CRIME. IT HAS NOT BROUGHT OTHER ISSUES THAT WAS MENTIONED THERE. UM THE HOUSE LIGHTING IS THERE, OBVIOUSLY WITH 298 HOUSES. I WOULD SUSPECT THAT YOU KNOW, THIS IS LIKE ANY OTHER COMMUNITY THAT THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH TYPE OF AN ACTIVITY. AND IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, YOU SAY SOMETHING, AND THAT'S JUST COMMON SENSE.

INTEREST CONFIRM. I MEAN, SO, SO THE CITY DOES NOT REQUIRE STREETLIGHTS IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS. SUBDIVISIONS WITH YOU REQUIRE THEM. THIS IS A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT SO AND THEY KIND OF WRITE THEIR OWN CONE, HOWEVER, TURNING THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD PROCESS WE CAN CONSIDER THAT AND TALK TO THE BOARD AND MORE EQUIPMENT DEVELOPER ON THAT TO SEE IF WE IF WE DO WANT TO ADD STREETLIGHTS. MY OPINION, I DO THINK STREETLIGHTS WOULD BE A POSITIVE WOULD BE POSITIVE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY MAYBE SOME OF THE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. MAYBE NOT EVERY 50 FT, BUT YOU KNOW, AND WE CAN CONSIDER THAT. I MEAN, IF THAT'S SOMETHING IT DIDN'T COME BACK IN THE STAFF REPORT AND EVERYTHING, AND IT IS CONSIDERED LIGHT POLLUTION. UM AND WHEN YOU GET FURTHER OUT IN THE COUNTRY LIKE JEROME VILLAGE THAT BECOMES A MAJOR ISSUE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO WITH MARYSVILLE GOT QUITE A BIT OF LIGHT ALREADY. NOT THAT THAT EVERY CITY HAS THAT, BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO ADD IT BACK TO THE STAFF OR CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. I'M NOT AGAINST REQUIRING A NUMBER OF LIGHTS. I WOULD NOT SEE THEM AT EVERY HOUSE. I MEAN, SINCE WE ARE DISCUSSING THE I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD ADD AT THIS TIME AS A, UM CONDITION. YEAH ABOUT THAT, IF YOU WITH THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AGREES UPON AND THAT YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED IN ADDING AS DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW TO ADDRESS I WOULDN'T CARRY IT FORWARD ONE THAT WITH AN APPROVAL TONIGHT I WOULD CONTINUE TO WORK WITH KYLE. KYLE'S OPINION GOES A LONG WAY WITH US. UM AND THAT SORT OF STUFF AND WE WOULD, WE WOULD CONSIDER THE ADDITION OF STREETLIGHTS. I WOULD JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND. HOW MANY WHERE DO WE WANT THEM AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE PROPOSE WITHOUT BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, OR I'VE DONE IN THE PAST. VERY VERY SUCCESSFUL. BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WANT, I DON'T THINK IT'S OUT OF THE ORDINARY TO ADD A FEW STREETLIGHTS TO THE PROJECT.

ALRIGHT UM ANOTHER ONE COULD CAUSE I KNOW IT WAS ACTUALLY DISCUSSED IN THE PACKAGE. UH THERE WAS A QUESTION OF THE IMPACT OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO YOU SPOKE TO YEAH SCHOOL

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IT'S JUST PART OF THE WAY I OPERATE TO GO SIT DOWN WITH THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT PIECE. UM SO, BUT THE OFFICIAL RESPONSES. THEY'RE THEY'RE NEUTRAL ON THIS OR NOT AGAINST IT, BUT THEY'RE NOT COMPLETELY RAHA FOR IT. UM UM I GOT A COUPLE OTHER SLIDES HERE.

LET ME JUMP BACK HERE BECAUSE IT WILL ADDRESS THE RENTAL RATES AS WELL. SORRY. GOTTA ROTATE BACK.

THIS IS THIS IS A PIECE. UM RIFF RAFF. OKAY UM, IF YOUR KIDS ARE RIFFRAFF, THEN THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GETTING IN HERE. I'M TELLING YOU, SO ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE QUALIFICATIONS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A 650 PLUS CREDIT SCORE TO RENT THESE UNITS, CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECKS, AND THAT IS EVERYBODY WHO WOULD BE ON THE LEASE WOULD HAVE TO QUALIFY UNDER THESE STANDARDS. 100. SO A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND GROUPS. PEOPLE ARE AT LEAST YOU GUYS BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT. I WILL CLARIFY THAT AND GET BACK WITH YOU. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT NINE PEOPLE INDIVIDUALS I THERE CAN BE YOU KNOW, TWO OR WE'LL HAVE TO SEE THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ANSWER IS. IT'S ACTUALLY NOT HERE. BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BOUGHT THE GROUND. UM SO WELL, NO. SO WHATLD ON WHAT SHE'S MISTAKEN AT IS AMERICAN HOMES BROUGHT THIS NO, NO, AMY, NO, NO . HOLD ON. HOLD ON. I'M GONNA ANSWER THAT. THE REASON THEY WERE HERE BEFORE WAS AMERICAN HOMES WAS THE ENTITY THAT BROUGHT IT THROUGH ASKING FOR STRAIGHT ZONING WAS NOT A P U D SO IT DID NOT. IT IS ACTUALLY ILLEGAL AND FAIR HOUSING FOR YOU TO VOTE, A PROJECT DOWN BASED ON THE RENTAL NATURE OF IT, OKAY.

YOU GUYS KNOW THAT I KNOW YOU'RE EDUCATED, ETCETERA. AMERICAN HOMES DID NOT GET VOTED DOWN BECAUSE IT WAS RENTAL. IT GOT VOTED DOWN BECAUSE IT IT WAS UM THEY DEEMED A COUPLE OF THINGS.

YOU GO THROUGH YOUR COUNSEL. I WAS AT THAT MEETING LISTENING. UM THEY GOT THEY HAD TRAFFIC CONCERNS. THEY HAD VALUATION CONCERNS. THEY HAD A NUMBER OF OTHERS. THEY HAD UTILITY CONCERNS, ETCETERA. IT'S COMING BACK THROUGH NOW WITH AMERICAN HOMES AND CONTRACT THROUGH ME.

UM AND WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS FOR NOT ONLY ZONING PLANNING STAFF AND

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BUT YOU HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT IN MANAGING THOSE. SO IF I WANT TO 6 50 CREDIT SCORE, AND I WANT NO FELONS WHICH AMERICAN HOMES DOES NOT ALLOW. THEY DO A BACKGROUND AND A BANKING CHECK. UM AND I WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOUR QUALIFYING FOR A MORTGAGE YOU'VE GOT TWO RATIOS 28% OR 26% 36% THAT THE BANKS STANDARD. WHAT THEY CAN'T DO IS F TWO PEOPLE COME AND THEY BOTH HAVE THE SAME QUALIFICATIONS AND MEET THOSE YOU CAN'T REJECT ONE AND ACCEPT THE OTHER. THAT IS FAIR HOUSING . OKAY SO THEY HAVE A TRIPLE INCOME. SO IF YOUR RENTS AND IF YOU JUMP DOWN OVER TO THE RIGHT THERE RENTS ARE SOMEBODY HAD MENTIONED THEIR RENTS ARE GOING TO BE $2000 PLUS 23 TO $2700 PER MONTH IS WHAT THEY FEEL. THE MARKET RENTS ARE HERE NOW, I WILL TELL YOU THE MARKET RENTS AND MARYSVILLE INCREASED ABOUT 15 TO 8% 18, THE LAST 12 TO 18 MONTHS. SO THAT NUMBER WILL CONTINUE TO ADJUST. BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TRIPLE INCOME FACTORS . SO IF YOUR RENT IS $2000 A MONTH, THAT'S $24,000 A YEAR. UM THE OCCUPANTS HAVE TO HAVE A TRIPLE INCOME FACTOR, WHICH IS MORE SELECTIVE THAN A MORTGAGE. UM SO THE MARKET RENTS THERE'S NO SUBSIDIZED. I THINK I HEARD THE WORD SUBSIDIZE OR HOUSING. THIS IS NOT SUBSIDIZED. THIS IS TRULY MARKET DRIVEN RENTS. 23 27 . IT IS MAINTENANCE FREE LIVING YARDS, INTERIOR EXTERIOR, YOU GET THE CLUBS, FITNESS AND THE POOL. AND I CAN TELL YOU THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THE THREE STORY WALK UP PRODUCTS THE HIGHER END KENMORE PLACE, UM COOKS POINT MARYSVILLE FLAT. THEY'RE PAYING A DOLLAR 50 TO A DOLLAR 80 SQUARE FOOT ON SOME OF THOSE LEASES, ETCETERA. SO IF YOU FACTOR OUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THESE HOUSES, THIS IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT LOWER. NOW ON MOST OF THOSE APARTMENT COMPLEX, YOU HAVE THE CHOICE BETWEEN A 751 BEDROOM OR AN 8 50 TO 950 SQUARE FOOT, TWO BEDROOM AND THAT'S IT. AND IF YOU HAVE KIDS, YOU HAVE NOWHERE TO GO. YOUR YOUR CHILDREN COMING BACK FROM COLLEGE HAVE NOWHERE TO GO IN THIS MARKET AND THIS IS THE PRODUCT THAT THEY WILL GO.

THEY'RE LIKE I SAID YOUNG FAMILIES, YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT KIDS THAT ARE BELOW SCHOOL AGE AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS THAT IS THE TARGET MARKET FOR THIS TO GIVE YOU AN ESTIMATE, BECAUSE EVERYBODY TELLS ME THAT 0.327 $100. NOBODY CAN AFFORD IT. LET'S GO YOUR AVERAGE NEWHOUSE.

OKAY THIS WAS THE ONLY THING I CAN DOCUMENT IS 2022. YOUR AVERAGE NEW HOUSE IN IN MARYSVILLE WAS 425 ON A 30 YEAR MORTGAGE. 7% INTEREST RATES AND THAT HAS ALMOST DOUBLED IN THE LAST 18 MONTHS. WITH 10% DOWN, YOU WERE LOOKING AT 25 45 AND P AND I, YOU ARE LOOKING AT $1000 IN INSURANCE AND $625 PER MONTH GOING TO THE CITY, AND THAT IS OFF THE ORIGINS WEBSITE YOU WERE LOOKING AT $3200 ALMOST $3300 PER MONTH. 23 DOESN'T LOOK THAT BAD ANYMORE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR A DEPOSIT. IF YOU'VE GOT GOOD CREDIT, AND YOU DON'T HAVE IT, AND MOST BANKS RIGHT NOW WILL TAKE 20% AND IF YOU TRY, YOU KNOW, I WISH THERE WAS SOME BROKERS IN THE ROOM BECAUSE THERE'S A BROKER IN OH, OKAY. WELL, YOU'RE A TITLE AGENCY, BUT OKAY, YEAH, SO BUT BUT THERE'S A BROKER THAT'S VERY ACTIVE IN IN MARYSVILLE THAT WILL TALK ABOUT THE COMPETITIVE OF TRYING TO BUY A HOUSE RIGHT NOW. AND IF YOU CAN'T BUY A HOUSE AND YOU DON'T HAVE 20% OR YOU'RE NOT A CASH BUYER, ETCETERA. IT IS A TOUGH MARKET. YOU'LL GO THROUGH. A NUMBER OF BIDS, EVEN WITH THE 7 7.5% INTEREST RATE RIGHT NOW, BEFORE YOU CAN FIND A HOUSE BECAUSE THE PRODUCTS NOT HERE IT IS SUPPLY AND DEMAND. CENTRAL OHIO IS IN A MASSIVE HOUSING CRISIS. THIS IS THE SOLUTION. IS IT ONE OF THE SOLUTION? THERE HAS TO BE ALL KINDS OF SOLUTIONS. UM BUT THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE 20% IF YOU'RE NOT A CASH BUYER, OR YOU'RE THE THIRD ONE ON THE BID LIST, AND YOU DON'T GET IT. THIS IS YOUR ALTERNATIVE TO COME TO AND THESE ARE THE FAMILIES THAT WOULD BE LIVING BESIDE YOU IF THEY BOUGHT THE HOUSE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM WHEN SOMEBODY BUYS THE HOUSE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU DON'T GET TO

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THIS ISN'T MEANT TO BE 20 KIDS AT THE DAYCARE. THIS ISN'T MEANT THIS IS DEPICTED. SHOP THAT IF YOU ARE DOING BUSINESS YOU CANNOT HAVE PEOPLE COME TO YOUR HOUSE FOR SERVICES AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS, BUT YOU CAN'T YOU KNOW, HAVE OTHER EMPLOYEES IN YOUR HOUSE. IT'S WERE UNDER THE EXACT SAME CODE THAT YOU'RE ZONING IS FOR ALL THE OTHER SINGLE FAMILY HERE, SO THAT'S NOT INTENDED AND THOSE BUSINESSES WOULD DISRUPT THE TENANTS NEXT DOOR TO THIS OWNER AS MUCH AS THEY WOULD DISRUPT PEOPLE IN EDINA POINT OR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS. UM WHO PAYS TAXES FOR VACANCY ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT ONE JEROME VILLAGE IS NOT LOCATED ON THE LEFT SIDE OF 42.

SO IT DOES NOT HAVE IMPACT ON INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY AND 42. IT IS LOCATED OFF OF HIGHLAND CROIX TO THE NORTH. THE MAJORITY OF THAT TRAFFIC COMES DOWN 42 TO 33 OR HIGHLAND CROIX. OR JEROME ROAD.

UM AND IN THAT CASE, THERE WAS 100 AND $2 MILLION PUT IN ROADWAY, INFRASTRUCTURE, SEWER, WATER AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS, SO IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE BEST EXAMPLE TO USE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT CRIME BACKGROUND CHECKS ALL OF THAT UP THERE. UM THE 298 UNITS.

ESSENTIALLY THAT'S ROUGHLY 13 STORY. APARTMENT UH, MARYSVILLE FLATS HAS A COUPLE 100 UNITS ALREADY. THEY HAVE A SECOND PHASE THAT THEY'RE DOING. SO FROM A RENTAL STANDPOINT, THIS IS A VERY NORMAL NUMBER OF APARTMENTS TO BE ABLE TO QUANTIFY THE QUALITY OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER WITH THE POOL, THE FITNESS AND THE UPGRADED AMENITIES FROM THAT STANDPOINT, AND THAT'S HOW MULTI FAMILY UNITS WHETHER IT'S DETACHED OR ATTACHED. WORK THROUGH THINGS.

HOW MUCH CAN THEY AFFORD? UM AND AGAIN GO STOP BY MARYSVILLE FLAT AND SEE WHAT THESE FOLKS ARE RENTING. IT IS NOT WHAT YOU RENTED IN THE FORTIES OR WHAT I RENTED IN THE EIGHTIES. THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT DRAINAGE ON THE FIELDS. I THINK SOUTH COULD YOU SPEAK ABOUT THE DRAINAGE IMPACT , AND I THINK BUILT ALL AT ONCE. WHERE WERE THE DRAINAGE OF THAT GO GIVEN THAT THERE'S FIELDS THERE NOW ABSORBENT THE MAJORITY OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE. FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND, UH I'M JUST GOING TO GET I'M GOING TO SAY THIS AND THEN I'M GOING TO LOOK FOR CONFIRMATION, SO OBVIOUSLY THE ACCESS IS ALL FROM THE NORTH AND YOU NEED TO 150 HOUSES. I'M GOING TO NEED TO ACCESS POINTS.

SO WE HAVE A RIDGE TO WEAVER ROAD IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE BUILT, BUT I CAN'T DO THE DRAINAGE OF ALL THOSE HOUSES PLUS TAKE ON THE GROUND WATER THAT IS COMING FROM THE AREA RIGHT UP ABOUT WEAVER ROAD, WHICH I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT'S PULLING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD. I CAN'T TAKE ON THAT. SO THE PONDS, THE ROADWAY, THE TURN LANES THAT AMENITY. ALL OF THAT

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SO YOU'RE YOU'RE ONLY IN A CONSTRUCTION PHASE HERE ONCE WELL TWICE WITH THE TWO PHASES.

JOHN FOLLOW UP ON THAT QUESTION . THERE WAS A QUESTION FROM ONE OF THE TRANSFER OF THE LAND WILL FROM THE CHURCH TO THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE HAS HAD ALREADY TAKEN PLACE. IT'S NOBODY BUYS GROUND UNTIL THE ENTITLEMENTS ARE PUT IN PLACE THAT WE'RE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS WERE NOT REAL ESTATE INVESTORS LOOKING TO BUY FARMLAND HOLD IT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS SO IT ISN'T CONTRACTED AS IT IS. I HAVE AN ASSIGNMENT TO TAKE IT THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENTS AND TO DO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THAT PROCESS AND THEN AMERICAN HOME WOULD CLOSE WITH THE LUTHERAN CHURCH ON THE GROUND AND PURCHASED AT THAT POINT IN TIME , AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME. ONCE THE CLOSING OCCURS, IT WILL BE PUBLIC INFORMATION. SO WHOEVER WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE MARKET VALUE OF THE GROUND IS AT THAT POINT IN TIME. UM IT WILL BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT THAT PURCHASE PRICES. SO I GOT HERE'S HERE'S ANOTHER ONE. SOMEBODY ASKED ABOUT THE PREVIOUS ZONING . THE ONE ACRE LOTS VERSUS THE P U D OR STRAIGHT ZONING, SO ACTUALLY CORRECT ME IF I SAY THIS IN CORRECTLY, THE CURRENT GROUND IS ZONED RURAL RESIDENTIAL. UM SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT IN AGRICULTURAL SO UNDER AGRICULTURAL, YOU CAN SPLIT THIS PARCEL AND DO ONE ACRE LOTS AND NOT HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH FOR A LEGISLATIVE ZONING PROCESS. YOU STILL HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH MARYSVILLE ON SKATES, PLAN AND OTHER THINGS, BUT IT'S NOT A LEGISLATIVE PROCESS BECAUSE YOU'RE WORKING UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING. THAT IS THERE. THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING. UM SOMEBODY MENTIONED THAT NO DEVELOPMENT SHOULD HAPPEN UNTIL A MASTER PLAN CAN BE DONE. UM, I LOVE HEARING THAT, BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY, I MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITIES IS WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING. BUT CITIES DO NOT DO THAT. WHAT CITIES DO IS THEY HAVE A PROCESS CALLED A

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ABSOLUTELY THE DENSITY IS HIGHER THAN 2.9. BUT THAT IS NOT HOW YOU DO IT. UM IF YOU WANTED TO 0.9 AND YOU WANTED EQUAL LOTS ACROSS THE WHOLE THING, YOU'D HAVE A ZERO COMMON AREA. SO THE COMMON AREA FACTOR WE HAVE 100. THIS IS JUST SIMPLE MATH. UM AND IT'S ON THE SLIDE NORTH OF IT.

WE HAVE 102 ACRES, ROUGHLY 298 DIVIDED OUT WITH THE COMMON AREA AND THE ACTUAL ROADS AND THE RIGHT AWAY AND THE PONDS AND THE LOTS AND THE PUBLIC SPACES AND ALL THAT. YOU GET THE TWO U 2.9 UNITS BREAKER THAT IS HOW DENSITY IS CALCULATED PER THE MARYSVILLE CODE, AND THAT'S HOW WE CALCULATED HERE, SO WE'RE NOT HIDING ANYTHING THAT THIS IS FOUR UNITS PER ACRE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT YOU PROBABLY COULD DO A LITTLE CIRCLE AND FIND ONE ACRE AND YOU PROBABLY HAVE MORE THAN THREE OR FOUR HOUSES IN THAT. UM WE BUILD THE DENSITY IN THE AREAS THAT WE DON'T HAVE COMMON AREA. WHAT ELSE DO WE GOT? THIS? THIS WILL BE A DANGEROUS THING. BUT HAVE ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT THAT I'M OKAY, COMMUNICATING BE HERE TO STAND UP FOR A WHILE.

YES. GIVE IT TO ENGINEERS AND WE ARE 100% IT IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT. I HAVE SENT IT TO BOTH ENGINEERS. IT IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM SENDING IT TWO YEARS WELL, SO I STAND CORRECTED BECAUSE THE FORMATS WE OKAY? NO NO, I'M APOLOGIZE. I WILL SAY MY PHONE ADDRESSES IN THE FBI PHONE NUMBER AND EMAIL AND LIKE, I SAID, I'M REQUIRED TO GIVE ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS BUT I SENT 65 LETTERS TO OTHER PEOPLE THAT I THOUGHT MIGHT BE INTERESTED ETCETERA OF MY OWN BEFORE THOSE PUBLIC LETTERS WENT OUT, SO I AM OPEN AND IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN OTHER DEVELOPERS THAT DO WHAT I DO. I AM OPEN TO SIT DOWN. IF YOU GUYS ABSOLUTELY HATE RENTERS, THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. IF YOU ABSOLUTELY HATE RESIDENTIAL UNITS BEING HERE, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. UM IT'S BUT MARYSVILLE NEEDS HOUSING. AND IF THERE ARE THINGS JUST LIKE THE WATER ISSUES ACROSS THE TOP, THE TREES THE TREES ALONG THE SIDE IF THEIR LIGHTS YOU KNOW IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN MAKE THIS BETTER FOR EVERYBODY, I AM 100% OPEN TO LOOKING AT THOSE, UM AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. OKAY, SO OKAY, BACK UP TO THE COMMISSION. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT HAVE YOU GUYS HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT DURING THIS DISCUSSION LIKE TO JUST BRING UP THE POINT OF 25 FT SETBACKS. SO THERE'S TWO CARS THAT CAN PARK IN A GARAGE. I ANTICIPATE WITH THE STATE OF THIS PROPERTY AS IT'S PROPOSED PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE STORING THE LAWNMOWERS IN THEIR GARAGES BECAUSE THEY WOULD KNOW LAWNMOWERS. SO TWO CARS WILL BE IN THE GARAGE. BUT ONCE A THIRD

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NORMALLY IT IS ON THE SIDE OPPOSITE OF THE WATER. I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP MR HUNTER'S COMMENT. THIS IS SOMEWHAT RELATED ONE ITEM ABOUT THESE HOUSES THAT I NEVER WAS REALLY HAPPY ABOUT US THERE. SLEVIN GRADE TAKEN AWAY THAT STORAGE ABILITY OF THE BASEMENT FOR THE RENTERS THEMSELVES. SO MY FEAR IS THAT IN THE GARAGE BECOMES YOUR ONLY UNIT OF STORAGE. AT THESE AT THESE UNITS, AND THAT'S JUST A CONCERN THAT I'VE HAD THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. YOU GOT TO GO BACK TO THE TARGET MARKET THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SO KIDS THAT ARE OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL, MAKING ENOUGH INCOME TO QUALIFY AND I REALLY CREDIT SCORE. KIDS COMING BACK FROM COLLEGE, YOUNG FAMILIES AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. THOSE ARE NOT PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF THAT USED MY FIRST HOUSE FOR 15 YEARS TO ACCUMULATE STUFF. I DON'T SOUND LIKE GEORGE CARLIN HERE. BUT TO ACCUMULATE STUFF ONLY TO MOVE ALL MY STUFF TO A BIGGER HOUSE, SO THE MAJORITY OF THE MILLENNIALS HAVE BEEN LIVING IN APARTMENTS FOR 567 YEARS BY CHOICE, THEY CHOOSE TO RENT. THEY DON'T WANT TO. I MEAN, MY SON. IF SOMETHING BREAKS IN HIS APARTMENT, HE PUSHES AN APP RATHER THAN GOES, GET THE HAMMER OR WRENCH OR SOMETHING TO FIX IT, SO THEY HAVE NOT ACCUMULATED THIS STUFF . TAKE EVERYTHING OUT OF YOUR GARAGE THAT YOU USE TO MAINTAIN YOUR HOUSE. OKAY. ALL YOUR TOOLS ALL YOUR SOUL. CALLS ALL YOUR UM , LAWN EQUIPMENT, YOUR SHOVELS. THESE FOLKS ARE MAINTENANCE FREE . UM SO THEY WILL NOT HAVE THAT AND I'VE GOT ANOTHER SECRET SLIDE HERE. UM SO THESE ARE THE RENTER STATS ESSENTIALLY A MINIMUM OF 122. NOW THIS IS AN AVERAGE. THIS ISN'T THE QUALIFICATION QUALIFICATIONS THREE TIMES RENT. UM THE AMERICAN HOMES PRODUCT IS 98.5% RENT MINIMUM OF ONE LEASE. THEY'RE NOT SHORT TERM LEASES HERE, BUT THE AVERAGE PERSON RENTING AND THEIR OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE 3 TO 5 YEARS IS TO THE AMOUNT QUALITY ARCHITECTURAL MATERIALS MAINTENANCE FREE LIVING ON CALL LOCAL MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT AGAIN. MAINTENANCE FREE IS BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE TENANT. MIX ONE THIRD FAMILIES, ONE THIRD EMPTY NESTERS AND ONE THIRD BUSINESS RELOCATIONS. UM I DON'T THINK I WOULD DEFINE THOSE FOLKS IS RIFFRAFF. UM SO SCHOOL AGE KIDS. WE DID HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE SCHOOLS.

WE EXPECT 240 KIDS FROM THIS PROJECT THAT'S 0.8 UNITS BECAUSE AGAIN THERE WILL BE MORE KIDS IN THE FAMILY UNITS, BUT THERE WILL BE JUST AS MANY EMPTY NESTERS AND BUSINESS RELOCATIONS IN THIS AND THIS IS BASED ON THEIR OTHER STATISTICS, UM FULL AND TIMELY OF PAYMENT OF PROPERTY TAX THAT GOES BACK TO WHAT HAPPENS IF IT'S VACANT. UM ANDREA WEAVER WILL GET ONE OR OR ANDY WILL GET ONE CHECK PER YEAR FOR ALL THE PROPERTY BASED ON THE VALUE OF THIS UM, THAT'S 298 HOMES THAT 400 OR WHATEVER THEY END UP, AVERAGING OUT AND THEN BACKGROUND CHECKS AND CREDIT CHECKS FURTHER RESIDENTS AND AGAIN IF SOMEBODY MOVES IN, BESIDES, YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHO THAT IS, UM, IN THIS SITUATION, THE QUALIFICATIONS ARE THERE AND IT'S FAIR HOUSING IF THEY DEVIATE FROM THOSE, UM, TO ALLOW, YOU KNOW THE TERM RIFFRAFF IN THERE. SO. SURE PERTAINING TO THE MAINTENANCE FREE. UM SO IS THE DEVELOPER GOING TO HAVE ON STAFF MEMBERS

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FOURTH MOST OF IT WILL BE BE CONTRACTORS. THEY MAY THERE MAY BE SOME STORAGE AREA FOR SOME LIGHT THINGS IN THE AMENITY CENTER, THE CLUBHOUSE BUT KNOW THAT WE DO NOT HAVE SHEDS OR IN THOSE SORT OF THINGS WE ACTUALLY PROHIBIT THOSE FROM THE BACKS OF THE HOMES AS WELL AS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES LISTED IN THE U D, BUT IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE AT THEIR SINGLE FAMILY. BUT WE DID ELIMINATE IN GROUND POOLS BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY WILL HAVE A POOL. WE DO ALLOW PATIOS AND PATIOS AND DECKS SO EACH HOUSE WILL HAVE A PATIO IN THE BACKYARD. IF THERE'S AN ELEVATION CHANGE THAT IT MAY BE A DECK VERSUS A PATIO, BUT THEY'LL HAVE THAT FUTURE FOR THEIR OUTDOOR LIVING AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS, BUT, UM, NO, THEY CANNOT PUT YOU KNOW, ADINA POINT ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE A SHED.

I THINK IT'S ARCHITECTURALLY THE SAME COLOR AS YOUR HOUSE OR SOMETHING. BUT WE WILL NOT HAVE THAT. YOU KNOW THE KIDS TORIES WILL ALL BE IN THE BACKYARD FENCED IN, SO YOU WILL NOT SEE HIM OUT FRONT AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. UM SO IT SHOULD BE A VERY CLEAN LOOKING LIVING. UM AND YOU KNOW THE TARGET MARKET FOR THIS JUST DOESN'T NEED THE BASEMENT. UM FOR THAT, AND THERE'S THIS ISN'T THE ONLY GROUP THAT IS ELIMINATING THE BASEMENTS ABOUT 60% OF ALL CONS PRODUCT AND THE WILCOX AND THE REDWOOD PRODUCT WHICH ARE FOR RENT. WHEN YOU GET TO EMPTY NESTERS, THEY DON'T HAVE THE BASEMENTS AS WELL. AND PEOPLE ARE FIGURING OUT HOW TO LIVE THAT WAY BY DOWNSIZING. IT'S ACTUALLY COMPANIES WILL HELP YOU DOWNSIZE. UM BUT IS THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES AND THEN ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION JUST KIND OF CLARIFICATION. HE SAID THAT THE COUNTY WAS KIND OF MADE AWARE LATER IN THE GAME ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY, MOVING SOUTH AS THE CITY HAD ENOUGH TIME TO COLLABORATE WITH THE COUNTY. ON THIS TRAFFIC STUDY. DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE? DO YOU NEED MORE TIME MOVING FORWARD WITH THE COUNTY? YOU KNOW, WE'RE WAITING ON. I KNOW, AS BART MENTIONED THEY HAD REQUESTED ADDITIONAL STUDIES AT THE WEAVER ROADS CAT SALON INTERSECTION, SO ONCE THEY SEND THAT TO THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY REVIEWS THAT WHAT WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT WITH THEM. DOES THAT HAVE ANY IMPLICATIONS ON HOW MANY IMPLICATIONS ON TONIGHT'S VOTE? YEAH. PROMISE CITIES PERSPECTIVE. THANK YOU. THAT'S TRUE. BACK DOWN THIS WAY . SURE QUESTION. SORRY IT'S PAST THE TIME FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS. IT'S STILL PASSED. I AM TOLD I HAVE TO HOLD ON TO THE AGENDA DARK. DO NOT FOLLOW THESE. HELP ME UNDERSTAND? NO, NO, NO, NO, YOU'RE OKAY. YOU'RE DIRECTING IT THERE, BUT I'M LISTENING. UM THAT'S HOW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAFEGUARDS ARE. THESE ARE MARKET RENTS, SO THERE IS A HUGE DOLLAR AMOUNT BEING INVESTED IN HERE AND THERE'S A RETURN EXPECTED. UM AND THAT RETURN IS NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER RENTAL COMPANY OR ANY OTHER DEVELOPER THAT INVESTS IN A MULTIFAMILY RENTAL PROJECT. SO YOU'RE SAFEGUARDS ARE RENTS CONTINUE TO MOVE UP IN MARYSVILLE, WHICH I SEE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. UM UNLESS YOU CAN ADDRESS THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND THERE'S A PROSPERITY SERIES. NOT THE THERE'S BEEN SOME PUBLIC SPEAKING OR PUBLIC ADVERTISING, ETCETERA. THERE'S THIS PROSPERITY SERIES OF 12 DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT THE CHAMBER HAS BEEN PUTTING ON AT THE AVALON. UM AND THEY TALK ABOUT THAT AND ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT DEALS WITH THE TRAFFIC IS CITY OF MARYSVILLE HAS 22,000 PEOPLE LEAVING MARYSVILLE TO GO TO DUBLIN OR COLUMBUS TO WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY AND BECAUSE OF YOUR HOUSING, YOU HAVE 22,000 PEOPLE EVERY SINGLE DAY COMING FROM SOUTHERN UNION COUNTY, DUBLIN, HILLIARD, ETCETERA COMING INTO MARYSVILLE TO WORK IF YOU HAD MORE HOUSING HERE, AND I'M IN THE HOUSING BUSINESS, SO I'M BIASED. OKAY, I WILL TELL YOU THAT I AM BLUNTLY HONEST. ON THIS STUFF WHEN I ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. BUT IF YOU HAD MORE HOUSING HERE, YOU COULD ELIMINATE SOME OF THE PORTION OF THE 22,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE COMMUTING IN. THAT IS WHY THE TRAFFIC IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT NEW HOUSES BEING BUILT. IT'S CAUSING ALL THE TRAFFIC. I UNDERSTAND IT ADDS TO IT, BUT IT COULD BE REDUCING ONE JUST AS EASY AND IT'S HARD TO THINK THAT THE TRAFFIC SOLUTION AND IT'S ALSO COMING FROM A DEVELOPER. I UNDERSTAND THAT'S HER, BUT IT'S SOME OF YOUR SOLUTION TO TRAFFIC COULD BE MORE HOUSING HERE. CLOSER TO WHERE THEY WORK CLOSER TO WHERE THEY HAVE AMENITIES CLOSER TO WHERE THEY BUY AND SHOP. COUNTY RESIDENTIAL IS GREAT. I GREW UP ON A 200 ACRE FARM IN PICKAWAY COUNTY. IT USED TO BE RURAL UNION COUNTY VERY SIMILAR TO IT. MY FAMILY STILL OWNS THAT FARM DOWN THERE. UM, AND THAT SORT OF STUFF. BUT WE DROVE 18 MILES TO GET TO THE CLOSEST GROCERY STORE, WHICH WAS GROSS CITY, YOU KNOW, AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS SO SERVICES ARE

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WELL YOU DO, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY BEING INVESTED IN THIS AND THOSE RETURNS ARE REAL , AND IT WOULD BE THE SAME THING . MARYSVILLE FLATS WAS VERY EXPENSIVE TO BUILD ITS THE HIGHEST IN APARTMENTS IN MARYSVILLE. NEXT TO THE VISION SIGHT GOING UP IN THE COLOMBO OR IN YOUR CORNER SITE, SO YOU DON'T HAVE A GUARANTEE THAT THOSE INVESTORS AND THAT DEVELOPER WILL DO ANYTHING. FROM THAT STANDPOINT, YOU DON'T HAVE THE GUARANTEE FROM THE OWNER NEXT DOOR TO YOU THAT HE WILL MAINTAIN HORUS CHASE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME FOR THE PAYMENT OF H UA'S FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THERE'S BEEN SOMEBODY I THINK IT WAS. IT'S THIS LADY. I'VE BEEN THE PRESIDENT OF JEROME VILLAGE. I'VE BEEN ON THAT BOARD FOR A LONG TIME. I'M I'VE BEEN MY INDIVIDUAL WHERE I LIVE. IT IS A DIFFICULT TO GET ALL YOUR RESIDENTS IN A SINGLE COMMUNITY IN THIS COMMUNITY. YOU HAVE ONE ENTITY THAT IS GOING TO OBTAIN AND ENFORCE ALL OF THE RULES. UM AND YOU KNOW, I WOULD TELL YOU TO JUST GO LOOK AT THE COMMUNITIES THAT AMERICAN HOMES HAVE WHERE THEY BUILT THEM FROM NEW BECAUSE IT IS ABSOLUTELY DIFFERENT THAN THEIR ORIGINAL BUSINESS MODEL OF BUYING DEFAULTED AND DILAPIDATED HOUSES. UM STARTING ALL THE WAY BACK IN 2007 8 AND NINE ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMENTS ARE CLOSED, COMMISSIONING. I'M SORRY . I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. UH I'M TRYING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO SEGREGATE CONSIDERATION ABOUT THE PROPERTIES BEING RENTALS VERSUS OWNED. BECAUSE AS I UNDERSTOOD IT FROM OUR LAST MEETING, MAYBE YOU WERE HERE. MAYBE YOU WEREN'T BUT WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE CONSIDERING DOING THIS AS A CONSIDERATION OF RENTALS VERSUS OWNERSHIP FROM A PLANNING COMMISSION RESPONSIBILITY VIEWPOINT. UM HOWEVER, THERE IS A PART OF THIS THAT TIES AND I AND I WANT TO MAYBE BRING UP SOMETHING FROM A YEAR AGO IS THAT I THOUGHT DURING WHEN THIS SIMILAR PLAN FOR THIS AREA WENT THROUGH COUNCIL, IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT THEY'RE NOT GUARANTEED TO UNTIL THE END OF TIME BE OWNED OR OPERATED BY THAT COMPANY SO IT WOULD CHANGE. THE WAY THAT INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES ARE MANAGED POTENTIALLY INTO THE FUTURE. IS THAT CORRECT? OR COULD YOU COMMENT ON THAT I WILL COME ON AND ON IT, BUT I WILL NOT COMMENT ON IT. FROM AMERICAN HOMES STANDPOINT, THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THEY COULDN'T COMMENT IT. THEIR BUSINESS MODEL IS TO BUILD HOUSES NOW, UM, AND TO RENT THEM LONG TERM. THAT IS THEIR STRATEGY. HOWEVER AS THE GO BETWEEN IN HERE WE ARE PLANNING EVERY ONE OF THESE LOTS. OKAY MEANING THAT EACH LOT IS A PARCEL. IN THE UNION COUNTY AUDITORS WEBSITE. NOW ALL OF THESE LOTS ALL 298 WILL BE OWNED BY AMERICAN HOMES, BUT THEY WILL BE SO IF THE MARKET CHANGES YOU CAN ALWAYS I MEAN, IF YOU GO BACK TO 2005 6 AND SEVEN EVERY APARTMENT COMPLEX IN IN FLORIDA WAS GOING CONDO 2008 CRASHED AND YOU WERE LEFT WITH HALF APARTMENTS AND HALF CONDOS THAT NEVER MADE IT. UM BUT THAT WAS FOR REALLY, REALLY BAD REASONS, AND I THINK YOU COULD TALK TO THE TITLE AGENCY LADY ABOUT THAT , BUT, UM, THERE IS AN EXTRA STRATEGY HERE FOR THIS OWNER IF THEY WANTED TO WOULD BE TO SELL THESE FOR SINGLE FAMILY FOR OWNERSHIP AND OCCUPANCY IN THE FUTURE. THE H O A WOULD ALREADY BE ESTABLISHED INSTEAD OF ONE ENTITY CONTROLLING IT, YOU WOULD HIRE OR YOU WOULD ELECT A RESIDENTIAL BOARD AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. AND THEY WOULD SELL OFF INDIVIDUALLY THAT IS NOT AMERICAN HOMES, BUSINESS MODEL, BUT FROM MY STANDPOINT, IT IS ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THE THINGS I DO WHEN I DO DEVELOPMENTS IS YOU EVALUATE RISK? WHAT ARE YOU DEVELOPING? AND WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES? AND WHAT ARE YOUR BEST CASE AND WORST CASE SCENARIOS, AND THAT WOULD BE A DOWNSIDE RISK RISK IF MARKET RENTS CONTINUED TO GO UP OR GO DOWN. THEY WENT DOWN. YOU WOULD HAVE THE OPTION IF THE VALUE OF THE HOMES WERE HIGHER THAN WHAT YOU THOUGHT THEY WERE WORTH THE SELL THEM INDIVIDUALLY. SO THEY COULD BE. THESE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE. THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD BE ZONED ETCETERA, SO IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN ADINA POINT OR ANYPLACE ELSE BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING UNLESS YOU'RE IN AN EMPTY NESTER, AN AGE RESTRICTED THAT SAYS, YOU CAN ONLY RELEASE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THE UNITS. THERE IS NOT A SINGLE RESTRICTION IN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS IN EDINA POINT OR ANYTHING ELSE. THAT REQUIRES SOMEBODY TO SELL THEIR HOUSE. IF THEY MOVE TO ANOTHER AREA, ETCETERA. YOU CAN RENT JUST

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OFFERED HER QUESTIONS. AH TRAFFIC CALMING ON PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY. WERE YOU ABLE TO ELABORATE ON THAT? OR DID I? YEAH, IT IS. SHE WAS CORRECT. IT IS A BLINKING THAT WILL FIRST OFF. THAT WAS NOT MY TERMS. BUT YES. SO THERE WAS YES, ESSENTIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH SOME OF THEM JUST KNOW THE ONES DOWN SHAWNEE HILLS AND IN DUBLIN, IT SAYS, I HAVE A NICE DAY IF YOU'RE GOING SPEED LIMIT OR LESS. AND IT STARTS BLINKING SLOWLY. IF YOU'RE GOING 5 10 MILES OVER AND THEN IT'S HAVING A PANIC ATTACK. IF YOU'RE 20 MILES OVER THE SPEED LIMIT, SO THOSE ARE THE CALMING. I'M NOT SO SURE WHERE THAT CAME FROM , BUT IT'S THE THEY WERE REQUESTING THE TWO OF THOSE BE INSTALLED, AND THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE HAVING. UP ITS PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY IS BEING BUILT BY A DEVELOPER RIGHT NOW, AND THOSE COMING MEASURES ARE NOT LOCATED AND AS PART OF THEIR PROJECT SO THAT THE CITY WAS JUST ASKING.

HERE'S AN IMPROVEMENT. WE, LIKE THE TRAFFIC STUDY DID NOT SAY PUT CALMING, BUT IT'S VERY COMMON FOR A DEVELOPER TO PAY FOR SOME OFF SITE INFRASTRUCTURE. WE'RE PAYING FOR THE TURN LANES AND THAT AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT MARYSVILLE HAS ON THEIR WISHLIST WITH WISH LIST. UM THAT WE SAID WE WOULD CONSIDER AND SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT, BUT IT IS THE BLINKING LITTLE LIGHTS, BUT THOSE ARE 15 $20,000 APIECE. THEY'RE EXPENSIVE, LOW SOLAR THINGS, UM, ACTUALLY COULD ADD TO IT BUT SOCIALLY UNDERSTANDING OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY PROFESSIONALS CONSTRUCTION HAS STARTED. UM IT WILL BE FINISHED IN THEORY BEFORE HOUSES ARE BUILT. AND SO, UM, I THOUGHT IS THE TRAFFIC WILL SOME TRAFFIC THAT WAS GOING UP JUST NOW TO THEFT WILL BE DIVERTED AND GO ACROSS PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY. EXACTLY YEAH, YEAH. YEAH.

PROFESSIONAL PARTICLES SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS YEAR BEFORE ANY HOUSE GETS BUILT IN THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THEN WHAT THAT CONSTRUCTION IT SHOULD PROVIDE SOME RELIEF TO HISTORY.

HMM. QUESTION RELATED TO THAT, SO THERE WAS A COMMENT BROUGHT UP DURING PUBLIC DISCUSSION THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY, AS IT WAS DONE WOULD BE INADEQUATE, GIVEN THAT IT DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR TRAFFIC FLOW FROM PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY. UM SO WOULD WE ANTICIPATE AN INCREASE TRAFFIC ON THE WEAVER WITH PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY BEING OPEN NOW? THIS IS MORE OF AN EAST. WHAT PROFESSIONAL PARTICLE IS MORE OF AN EAST WEST CONNECTOR. SO YOU'RE GONNA GET THE SAME PEOPLE THAT LEAVE THE SUBDIVISION AND DANA POINT LEVERAGE AND POTENTIALLY THIS ONE. CAN JUST GO BACK AND FORTH FROM FROM THEIR DESTINY. DESTINATION YOU'RE NOT GONNA ADD TRAFFIC BECAUSE THESE ARE SUBDIVISIONS AND THAT DESTINATIONS OR LIKE A COMMERCIAL OR A RETAIL STORE.

BECAUSE THAT MAKES SENSE. I THINK THEY'RE GOING OVER TO WHERE BENNY'S PIZZA IS. THEY'RE GOING TO GO OVER TO COLUMBUS AVENUE AND INSTEAD COMMERCIAL THEIR CURRENT ROUTE. NOW WE'RE GOING 50 INSTEAD OF GOING IT. YEAH OKAY, STANDING USING FISH STREET VALUES PROFESSIONAL PART OF WHY WE SHOULDN'T ANTICIPATE THAT PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY WOULD ADD TRAFFIC. THAT'S THAT WAS MY BASE QUESTION. SO WE'VE ERODE DOWN IN THIS. YEAH I MEAN, PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY ITSELF.

FULL SEYMOUR TRAFFIC, RIGHT? BUT WE WERE YEAH, WE WERE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES JUST A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT CROSS LOCATION. PARKWAY'S SHORTCUT? YEAH EIGHT TO TEST, OKAY? AND THAT'S THE WAY WE USE. AND IN THAT TRAFFIC WOULD BE DISSIPATED FROM FIFTH AVENUE OR FIFTH STREET OR SCOTTS LAWN IN ORDER TO GET THE COLEMAN CROSSING OR VICE VERSA BACK HOME OR WHATEVER. BUT UM. AND JUST TO LET EVERYONE KNOW. PUBLIC COMMENT IS DONE EVEN BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN WERE WE WERE DONE WITH THAT ABOUT AN HOUR. THANK YOU. ONE MORE QUESTION WITH THE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH , I THINK SOUTH IS THERE A COMMITMENT FROM YOU TO ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT? INFRASTRUCTURE IF IT'S SO MAYBE SO WARRANTED BY THE COUNTY. I WORK WITH KYLE AND JEFF. I'VE GOT A LONG HISTORY OF WORKING WITH JEFF LUC MILNER, DG ETCETERA ON WORKING OUT THESE AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC STUDY SAYS THE TURN. LANES AREN'T REQUIRED. SOME DEVELOPERS WOULD STOP AT THAT POINT, AND THAT'S NOT WHERE WE ARE SO ABSOLUTELY. I'VE I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH KYLE ON A NUMBER OF PROJECTS, AND I'VE WORKED WITH JEFF FOR 14 YEARS. SO UM, WE WILL FINALIZE THE TRAFFIC STUDY BASED ON THE NEEDS. THAT BOTH KYLE AND JEFF JEFF AND LUKE, UM

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AND I KNOW IT'S A REALLY, REALLY EXPENSIVE CROSSING TO GET ACROSS THAT RAILROAD TRACK. IF YOU GO ABOVE GRADE, IT'S I MEAN TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. SO UM, I AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER INDUSTRIAL GROUND IN MARYSVILLE THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPED BEFORE THE WEST SIDE, BUT I THINK THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT THERE IS REALLY COME FROM WHEN THOSE FARM FIELDS BETWEEN WEAVER ROAD AND INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY DEVELOPED WHICH THEY BOTH HAPPENED TO BE FOR SALE RIGHT NOW, SO.

QUESTIONS. COMMENTS COME ABOUT. ALL RIGHT. SO BEFORE WE HAVE A MOTION, JUST SO EVERYONE IS AWARE SO OUR VOTE IS BASED ON WHETHER THIS MEETS THE ZONING CODE. UM IF IT GETS APPROVED, AND THEN OUR RECOMMENDATION GOES TO CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS NOT FINAL. I MEAN, THIS ISN'T THE END OF THE ROAD IS WHAT I'M SAYING. BUT BUT WE ARE JUST JUDGING WHETHER IT MEETS THE ZONING CODE. SO WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE A MOTION. QUESTION SO, SIR, WE TALKED ABOUT THE CONDITIONS OF TRAFFIC LIKE SORRY . THE STREETLIGHTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT CONDITION THAT PART OF THE MOTION CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON STREETLIGHTS AND INSTALL THEM AS RECOMMENDED BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT DENSITY THEY SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT? YEAH I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS UNDERSTOOD AS PART OF THE MOTION. YES IF YOU LIKE TO MAKE THE MOVE. WELL OKAY, SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN? AS YOU DECIDE ON YOUR VOTE? JUST REMEMBER, YOU NEED TO CONSIDER THE SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES THAT COME WITH PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. AND IF YOU VOTE NO , YOU NEED TO RELATE IT TO ONE OF THOSE NINE ITEMS ON THE LIST THAT WAS PART OF YOUR STAFF REPORT AND HAVE IT UP ON THE SCREEN AS WELL. TIE YOUR BOAT BACK TO THAT? YES OKAY, SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION OF THE DON'T GULP ER, WORKING WITH THE CITY ON STREETLIGHTS INSTALLED AS RECOMMENDED. I WILL MAKE EMOTIONS. THAT'S NO ONE ELSE WILL. THANK YOU, AND WE DO NOT NEED A SECOND. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY, SO ROLL CALL, PLEASE. PRESSURE. YES. BYE. THAT'S RIGHT. YES. MR WALDMAN? YES. THAT'S RIGHT. YES. BECAUSE BEEN APPROVED, SO THANK YOU. JUST SO JUST SO EVERYONE'S AWARE THIS WILL COME FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL. UM AND SO IT'LL BE THE FIRST READING WILL JUST BE A PRESENTATION BY THE DEVELOPER COUNCIL CAN INTERACT WITH THE DEVELOPERS SECOND READING SECOND TIME IT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THEN THE THIRD READING IS WHEN THEY ACTUALLY VOTE. WE KNOW THE DATA . UM WE DON'T KNOW THAT DATE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'LL WORK WITH OUR CLERK OF COUNSEL TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA AND NOTICES WILL GET SENT OUT TO EVERYONE. THAT'S SURROUNDING THAT PROPERTY. MANY OPEN AREAS BASIS INSTEAD OF WHAT ? YEAH, WE'LL TRY OUR BEST TO GET OUT CLOSER TO THE ROAD. BEHIND THEM, OKAY? I READ THAT LIST OVER AND LISTEN, MIKE HEADED EATING WE STILL HAVE WE HAVE WE DO HAVE TO FINISH UP OUR MEETING. UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO HEAD OUT. WE JUST ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION OUTSIDE. IF EVERYONE COULD KEEP HEADING OUT. WE STILL HAVE A MEETING TO FINISH UP HERE. ALRIGHT CAN YOU PLEASE MOVE CONVERSATIONS OUT INTO THE CORRIDOR, PLEASE? TAKES

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THANKS ALRIGHT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE LAUNCHED IT'S GOING CLOSE TO A LAWYER. I UNDERSTAND FINISHING UP OUR MEETINGS, THOUGH, OKAY? ALRIGHT. SO NEXT TIME ON THE AGENDA, I BELIEVE IS UPDATE FROM THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. YEAH CHAD BECAUSE. I'M GOING TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEK AND POSTPONE THAT BECAUSE PAY BOX. THANKS BUDDY. THANKS SURE, SURE, NEXT MONTH. UM SO WITH THAT IS SAYING THE STAFF COMMENTS, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE. THAT WAS A LONG MEETING, AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME GOOD CONVERSATIONS AND COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AND QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSION AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TONIGHT.

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SO IF THAT PROPERTY CHANGED OWNERSHIP IN THE FUTURE THAT P U D WOULD MAINTAIN, AND WE WOULD CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BY THAT PNG YEAH, I WAS STRAIGHT ZONING. THERE WOULD KIND OF BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THAT IN THE FUTURE, SO IT JUST SEEMED LIKE, UM I GUESS THIS WILL BE PART OF MY COMMENTS. THEN, UM THAT THE THINGS THAT WERE DIFFERENT FROM THE SRD WAS GIVING THEM MORE LEEWAY. YOU KNOW, CLOSER TO THE EASEMENT, CLOSER HOUSES FROM SIDE TO SIDE. UM I. I QUESTION WHAT I WAS GOING TO VOTE AND I HAD THINGS HIGHLIGHTED WHERE I THINK I COULD HAVE SAID NO AND POINTED TOWARDS ON THE CODE, BUT ULTIMATELY UM, I THINK THE INTENT WAS THERE. SO, UM WE'LL SEE WHERE IT GOES. I DO APPRECIATE ALL SORTS OF COMMENTS . NO NONE OF THEM ARE ARE HERE NOW, BUT IF THEY WATCH THE VIDEO, I DO APPRECIATE IT. THEY WERE HEARD. I HOPE THAT THEY APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION. UM AS SCOTT SAID, THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THE OUTCOME THEY WANTED TONIGHT, BUT I HOPE THEY UNDERSTAND THE REASONING BEHIND THE DECISION. AND YEAH, WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT SIDE YARD REDUCTION THAT DOES ADD ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE GREEN SPACE WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TOO, SO SPACE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY GETTING USED BY A CHILD. YOU KNOW WHEN THEY'RE IN THE YARD, NORMALLY, THE FRONT OR THE BACK. UM THAT CAN THEN BE ADDED INTO MORE MORE OPEN GREEN SPACE AND MORE USABLE GREEN SPACE WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TOO. SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IT RIGHT ELEMENTS. NO ONE VIDEO. SO THIS IS ON RECORD. SO ONE THING ONE QUESTION I HAD WAS THE OBJECTIVE OF PUY DE ONE OF THE. NINE LISTED WAS PROVIDE MAXIMUM CHOICE OF BUSINESS AND LIVING ENVIRONMENTS BY ALLOWING A VARIETY OF HOUSING BUILDING TYPES IN THE MAGICAL ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN. I SEE BUILDING TYPES AS NIGHT SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING AS A BUILDING TYPE. EX CENTERS. I MEAN, SO THERE WAS NOT A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES. BUT THEN I THINK OF OTHER EU DS LIKE MERCIFUL FLATS WAS A PERIOD. I MEAN INTO . IT WASN'T YEAH, LARGER BEAUTY

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