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HE WANT TO WELCOME YOU. WE WANT TO WELCOME YOU TO TONIGHT'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND WE ARE
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HONORED. IT HASN'T HAPPENED PRETTY MUCH DO INDEPENDENT MICK THAT WE HAD BOYS SCOUTS WERE ABLE TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. BUT TONIGHT WE HAVE THE CODA AND HE IS COMING TO[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
COME FORWARD AND LEADERS IN THE PLEDGE. AND IF YOU AFTER THE PLANETS, PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE IMPLICATION, PLEASE. YEAH. MHM. FIVE STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IS STANDS NATION. 13. ALMIGHTY GOD, WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MAYSVILLE AND THEIR CITIZENS.AMEN. HEY THANK YOU SO MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR ACHIEVEMENT. THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY AND ALWAYS CAME FROM SCOUTS AND ANALYSIS BILLS COUNCIL AS WELL COME OVER AND PERCENT. THE YOUTH OF MANAGEMENT SO AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S THE NATIONS AND THANKS FOR COMING HOME. HEY
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LITTLE COPIES. ALLEN SEYMOUR PRESIDENT DEBORAH PRESENT DONALD BURGER HERE. BURBEY PRESIDENT ROUSH HERE, GREENS AND AARON CARPENTER EXCUSED. OKAY WE HAD A FEW MINUTES OF MEETINGS THAT WE[APPROVAL OF MINUTES: June 20, 2023 Combined City Council and Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes. July 10, 2023 City Council Meeting Minutes.]
HAD WE HAD THE JUNE 20TH. THIS WAS TO COMBINE CITY COUNCIL AND PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING AND I TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE, UM, AS PRESENTED TO APPROVE THE JUNE 20TH COMBINED. COUNCIL AND PARKS. RECREATION CAN BE OKAY. SO MR SEYMOUR MAKES THE MOTION ALL THEIR FAVOR. WE ALSO RECEIVED THE MINUTES OF THE JULY 10TH 2023 CITY COUNCIL CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND I TAKE A MOTION FOR THAT ONE. MR PRESIDENT MOVED TO APPROVE THE JULY 10TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES. OKAY THANK YOU, MR ROCHE ON ALI FEVER HIGH HEY, ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT[ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]
, MR EMERY. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO TALK FIRST, ABOUT SOME EVENTS WE HAVE COMING UP AND HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE THE KIND OF WEATHER WE'RE HAVING A NIGHT. WHEN WE HAVE THESE EVENTS. WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE WITH THAT THUS FAR THIS SUMMER. FIRST OFF COMING UP. WE HAVE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT COMING UP. THAT'S THE MARYSVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT HOSTING. THAT EVENT ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 1ST FROM 6 TO 8 P.M. AT ALTARS GATE PARK, SO IT'S BEEN A NICE EVENT . IT'S TYPICALLY IN THE PAST BEEN HELD OUT IN THE MILL VALLEY AREA CHIEF. ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO THE EVENT? THANKS TERRY. NO, OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES. FOLKS HAVE REALLY WORKED HARD TO BRING THIS EVENT BACK. IT KIND OF WENT AWAY DURING COVID. SO OUR PLAN IS TO START THESE BACK UP AND KIND OF ROTATE THEM THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, SO WE'VE GOT SOME REFRESHMENTS OUT THERE SOME STUFF FOR THE KIDS LITTLE TOUCH TRUCK. SOME PICKLEBALL, NOT MYSELF, BUT SOME PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY PLAY PICKLEBALL. SO COME ON OUT IF YOU CAN. HEY THANKS, CHIEF. SO AGAIN, A REMINDER TUESDAY, AUGUST 1ST 6 TO 8 P.M. AT ALTARS GATE PARK, AND THAT'S OUR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT THIS YEAR, THE NEXT EVENT THAT IS ONE THAT OCCURS EACH YEAR WE'VE GOT COMING UP IS THE AL OHIO BALLOON FAST COMING UP, AND THAT IS AUGUST 10TH, 11TH AND 12TH. SO THAT EVENT WILL BE COMING UP. THAT'S ALWAYS NICE EVENT FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND THIS YEAR THE OPENING NIGHT ENTERTAINMENT IS THE BEACH BOYS . SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT COMING UP EARLY IN AUGUST, RELATIVELY EARLY IN AUGUST, NOW ANOTHER EVENT JUST AFTER THAT, UM, WEEKEND IS OUR NEXT FRIDAY NIGHT UPTOWN EVENT, WHICH IS OUR CAR SHOW. THAT IS FRIDAY, AUGUST 18TH. FROM 6 TO 10 P.M. IT'S PRESENTED BY HONDA, MARYSVILLE AND THE FEATURE MUSIC IS BY MCGUFFEY LANE. SO IN SUCCESSIVE WEEKS, YOU'LL HAVE THE BEACH BOYS AND MCGUFFEY LANE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, SO IT IT'S A IT'S A GOOD SUMMER AND HOPEFULLY AGAIN OR WHETHER WE'LL COOPERATE SO AND WITH THAT I WANT TO DAN BEFORE I PASS IT DOWN TO JEREMY AND MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS AND[00:05:01]
THE KYLE AND ENGINEERING. THAT JUST WITHIN THE PAST FEW DAYS, UM WE WERE NOTIFIED THE CITY WAS NOTIFIED THAT WE WILL RECEIVE A $1.5 MILLION IN A GRANT TO INSTALL 16,000 LINEAR FEET OF FORCE MAIN FROM THE CITIES FROM THE CITY'S PUMP STATION NUMBER FOUR. AH, THAT'S LOCATED DOWN ALONG INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY DIRECTLY TO OUR WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY UPGRADES TO THE PUMP STATION. THE FORCED, MEANWHILE, ALLOW FOR INCREASED CAPACITY OF ITS WASTEWATER SYSTEM TO ACCOUNT FOR THE CONTINUED GROWTH OF THAT AREA AND PROJECT ACTIVITIES WILL ALSO INCLUDE MODIFICATIONS. TO THE INFLUENCE SCREENING BUILDING AND THE PROJECT WILL BENEFIT IN THE RANGE OF ABOUT 10,000 PEOPLE. SO I REALLY WANTED TO THANK STAFF BECAUSE YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, AND WE'RE JUST GETTING READY TO GO INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS NOW FOR 2024, BUT I REALLY WANTED TO THANK STAFF. FOR STAYING ON TOP OF THINGS AND WHEN FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE BEING ABLE TO SECURE THE $1.5 MILLION FOR THAT PROJECT. I THINK IT'S IS THAT PAYING FOR HALF HALF THE PROJECT AND IT ITSELF. SO THAT GIVES YOU AN EXAMPLE A HUGE BENEFIT TO OUR WASTEWATER ENTERPRISE FUNDS SO AND WITH ADULT PASS IT DOWN TO JEREMY. OKAY, THANKS, TERRY. JUST SOME UPDATES ON THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION SIDE. IN OUR STREETS DIVISION. CITY CREWS CONTINUE TO INSTALL CONCRETE AT THE CHESTNUT GARAGE . NO, THIS WILL MAKE IT A FEW OF YOU HAPPY, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT REPLACING A FEW OF THE BRICK CROSSWALKS IN THE UPTOWN. WE THINK WE HAVE A BETTER WAY TO MINIMIZE ANY. UM YOU KNOW WHERE THEY'RE SINKING AND MAKE IT FOR AN EASIER RIDE FOR FOLKS. WE'RE GOING TO TRY THAT OUT ON A COUPLE OF THEM. SEE IF IT WORKS AND THEN HOPEFULLY GET THE REST IF IT DOES. AND THEN AS WELL IN EARLY THAT WILL BE AN EARLY AUGUST AND EARLY SEPTEMBER. THE GUYS ARE GOING TO HEAD OUT TO THE POLICE AND COURT AND PERFORM A SMALL PARKING LOT EXPANSION FOR THE POLICE DIVISION PARKS. CITY CREWS CONTINUE TO PERFORM MAINTENANCE WORK AT ALTARS GATE PARK AND MAKE REPAIRS TO THE FILTER SYSTEM AT THE BABY POOL, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A CONTRACTOR INSTALLING SIDEWALKS OUT AT MILL VALLEY CENTRAL AND THEN ONE THING I KNOW WE WANTED TO GET OUT THERE ON JULY 26TH, THE LESS ACTIVE DOG AREA IS GOING TO BE CLOSED AT THE BAR PARK FOR SOME LAWN MAINTENANCE. AND THEN ON JULY 27TH, THE ACTIVE DOG AREA WILL BE CLOSED AND IT SHOULD JUST BE TEMPORARY SO THEY CAN FIRM SOMETHING'S UP EVENTS. WE'RE CURRENTLY PREPARING FOR THE UPCOMING AUGUST FRIDAY, UPTOWN FRIDAY NIGHT EVENT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CAR SHOW, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE BACK THIS YEAR. THEN, FINALLY ON THE WATERSIDE. CITY CREWS CONTINUE TO INSTALL SERVICES ON WEST THIRD STREET AND OUR CONTRACTOR AT THE WATER PLANT, PETERSON CONTINUES TO WORK ON THE POST CONSTRUCTION PUNCH LIST . SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KYLE FOR SOME UPDATES ON SOME ONGOING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. THANKS GENERALLY BEFORE I GET INTO SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT UPDATES, WANTED TO POINT OUT A INTERSECTION OPERATION CHANGE. OVER ON STATE ROUTE FOUR IN MILFORD AVENUE OF THAT INTERSECTION, THE OPERATION WELL , ACTUALLY GOT CHANGED EARLIER THIS MORNING. THE NEW OPERATION AT THIS INTERSECTION WILL REQUIRE NORTH END VEHICLES ENTERING MILFORD AVENUE TO YIELD TWO VEHICLES, MAKING A LEFT TERM FROM SOUTHBOUND STATE ROUTE FOUR. THIS CHANGE WILL PROVIDE IMPROVED SIGHTLINES FOR CARS AND YIELDING AT THAT INTERSECTION, AND THERE'S ALSO SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID OVER THERE OFF DELAWARE AVENUE AND THE U. S 33 WESTBOUND RAMP. MOVING ON TO CAPITOL AND PERMIT PROJECTS PAVING PROGRAM. WE CONTINUE TO DO CONCRETE WORK I BELIEVE, PAVING PAVING IS SCHEDULED FOR SOMETIME IN AUGUST . BUT THAT DAY IS NOT OFFICIAL YET, SO IT'S STILL JUST WORKING ON CONCRETE WORK. THE STATE ROUTE 31 PRETTY FEW ROUND ABOUT THAT PROJECT HAS KICKED OFF. OUR CONTRACTOR WAS OUT PREPPING FOR TEMPORARY ASPHALT INSTALLATION THIS WEEK. THEY SHOULD WRAP UP THAT TEMPORARY ASPHALT INSTALLED THIS WEEK AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE ROUND THEM OFF CONSTRUCTION NEXT WEEK TO A TRAFFIC NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND ON 31 WILL REMAIN OPEN DURING THE FIRST PHASE OF CONSTRUCTION OF THAT, RIGHT. THE ELMWOOD AVENUE ROADWAY RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, THE CONTRACTOR TO CONTINUE STORM WORK THIS WEEK THAT THE SOUTHBOUND LANE IS STILL CLOSED DURING THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT. AND THEN THE LAST UPDATE I HAVE IS IN REGARDS TO THE RESERVOIR CONNECTOR BRIDGE CONTRACTORS CONTINUING TO WORK ON THE BOARDWALK. THEY DID INDICATE THAT THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE AND SCHEDULED FOR DELIVERING THE FIRST OF AUGUST AND I THINK THE WEEK OF AUGUST SERMON THEY PLAN TO SET THAT BRIDGE. THOSE ARE ALL THE[00:10:05]
UPDATES I HAVE AT THIS TIME. OKAY ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR AND I THINK KYLE. IT'S ALSO REALLY A NOTE. GRANT MONEY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. THE BRIDGE . WHAT? THE RESERVOIR CONNECTOR BRIDGE. WE RECEIVED WORD LAST YEAR IF NOT IN 2021 THAT WE RECEIVED $500,000 IN CAPITAL BILL FUNDING TO HELP PAY FOR THAT RESERVOIR CONNECTOR BRIDGE . ONTARIO'S COMMENTS THAT HIS GRADES ARE SO GREEN FOR OUR CITY WAS ABLE TO DO SO MUCH MORE AS A REASON TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT. THIS IS A PROJECT IF YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY, THE BOARDWALKS PRETTY MUCH IN PLACE. NOW I THINK ARE PRETTY CLOSE OUT THERE. IF YOU GO ON THE JIM SIMONS TRAIL OUT TO MILL VALLEY PARK CENTRAL AREA. YOU WILL FIND THE AREA WHERE THIS IS BEING CONSTRUCTED. THIS IS GOING TO CONNECT THE JIM SIMONS TRAIL TO OUR RESERVOIR SITE, SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CROSS MILLCREEK GO RIGHT BY OUR NEW WATER PLANTS OUT THERE AND THEN CAREFULLY FOR THE TIME BEING, YOU COULD CAREFULLY CROSS RAYMOND ROAD. WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON IMPROVING THE SAFETY OF THAT IN THE FUTURE AS WELL AND AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TYING OUR TRAIL SYSTEM TO THE RESERVOIR, WHICH IS JUST GOING TO BE A FABULOUS PROJECT. SO IF YOU GET A CHANCE, AND YOU WALK OUT TO THE GYM, SIMMONS TRAIL ON OCCASION, TAKE ADVANTAGE AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT SO OKAY. ALREADY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR TERRY OR ANY OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS? OK ALREADY. THANK YOU SO MUCH APPRECIATED, UM, MOVING ON. UM REPORT FROM CLARK[PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT]
OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THIS EVENING ALREADY. THANK YOU. PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT. WILL PROBABLY BE ASLEEP. OH, AND JEFF HOME EVERY TEXT HIM TONIGHT. GOOD EVENING. I'LL PROVIDE THE PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT. SO WE JUST HAD THE ONE AGENDA ITEM FOR WEAVER MILL FARMS. THIS WAS AN APPLICATION TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 14373 WEAVER ROAD, AND IT WOULD GO FROM AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL TO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THAT VOTE WAS SIX. YES ZERO. NO AND THAT WAS OUR ONLY AGENDA ITEM FOR THE EVENING. OKAY ALREADY.[DESIGN REVIEW BOARD REPORT]
AND THEN JEFF, YOU WILL BE HANDLING THE DESIGN REVIEW P PORRIDGE. SO FOR THE JULY DESIGN REVIEW BOARD HEARING, WE HAD TWO HOME IMPROVEMENT GRANT APPLICATIONS WANT AT 4 TO 7 EAST FIFTH STREET AND THEN ONE AT 16 TO 2 CURRY LANE. BOTH OF THOSE WERE APPROVED. SEVEN. YES. ZERO NOW. WE HAD ONE ITEM THAT WAS TABLED PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND THAT WILL BE HEARD IN THE AUGUST AGENDA FOR A NEW BUSINESS. WE HAD TWO APPLICATIONS. THE FIRST ONE WAS AND BILL ADDRESSES IDEN SHAL DISTRICT FOR A NEW RESIDENTIAL HOME FOR HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. LOCATED AT 800 WEST EIGHTH STREET THAT WAS APPROVED SEVEN YES. ZERO NOW WITH THE COUPLE CONDITIONS UH, WE HAD A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT FOR MARYSVILLE ART LEAGUE FOR A MONUMENT SIGN AND THAT WAS TABLED AH, FOR THEM TO REDESIGN IT AND GO BACK TO THEIR BOARD, WITH SOME COMMENTS FROM DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. NO COME BACK AT A LATER DATE WHEN THEY GET APPROVAL, AND THAT WAS TABLED WITH THE SEVEN YES. ZERO. NO VOTE. OKAY ALREADY THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SD OR JET? OKAY CAN I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT FOR YESTERDAY MOMENT? UH THE HOME IMPROVEMENT LOANS. WHAT IS CURRENTLY THE AMOUNT THAT IS STILL AVAILABLE? SHOULD CITIZENS TO SAY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT? I'M NOT SURE THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE LEFT, BUT WE STILL HAVE QUITE A BIT OF FUNDING LEFT FUNDING. LIKE YEAH, THEY'RE STILL FUNDING LEFT. UH IT'S UP TO $2000.50 PERCENT AND THEN A MAXIMUM OF TWO. 1000 CAN BE USED FOR NEW WINDOWS NEW DOORS, NEW ANYTHING ITEMS THAT CAN BE SEEN FROM THE ROAD RIGHT AWAY THAT CAN BE SATISFIED WITH , UM WHAT PEOPLE CURRENTLY HAD SUBMITTED FOR HOME IMPROVEMENT. WE'VE BEEN GETTING, UH, WINDOW REPLACEMENTS. SOME ROOF REPLACEMENTS, UH, BRICK REPAIRS FOR SOME OF THE BRICK HOMES, SOME TUCK POINTING AND PUT BRICKS REPAIRS. THOSE ARE GENERAL ITEMS THAT WE'VE BEEN[00:15:04]
GETTING THOSE THOSE ARE 50% MATCH WE'RE ABOUT TO CITY WILL GO UP TO THE 2000 AND THEN CITIZENS PAY THE REST. OKAY AND EACH PROJECT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED BY WHAT 12 31. UM IT CAN GO LATER. LONG AS WE HAVE THE PIO CREATED BEFORE THEN I DO WITH TYPICALLY TRY TO HAVE THEM DONE 90 DAYS OF POSSIBLE, BUT THEY CAN'T ASK FOR AN EXTENSION IF NEEDED, DEPENDING ON AS YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE WINDOWS HAVE BEEN BACK ORDERED. JUST DO THIS AND PRODUCTION ISSUES, SO THEY'VE KIND OF PROLONGED SOME OF THEM. OKAY? READY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ANY THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. OKAY NOW WE GET TO THE PORTION KNOWN AS HEARING OF CITIZENS WHERE[HEARING OF CITIZENS]
CITIZENS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO COUNSEL FOR AFTER FIVE MINUTES ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. OKAY, SO IF IT'S AN AIDER, IF IT'S AN ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA AND HOPEFULLY ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE AGENDA. AND THAT WILL BE HANDLED SEPARATELY. BUT IF IT'S AN ITEM THAT'S NOT ONLY AGENDA AND YOU WISH TO MAKE ANY KIND OF COMMENTS. THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO THAT COUNCIL KNOW WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND. OKAY? OKAY BY ALL MEANS, IF YOU DON'T MIND , STATE, YOUR NAME AND OTHERS AND AGAIN. THIS IS A PRESENTING TO US. THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE A DISCUSSION POINT. HELEN TAPER 15 37 ASTOR COURT AND I HAD READ THROUGH. UM AND THE MARYSVILLE UM, JOURNAL THAT THE CITY WAS GOING TO GET A GRANT TO PUT UM AROUND ABOUT AT COLEMAN'S COURSING AND INDUSTRIAL AND THERE'S ALREADY A LIGHT THERE, AND I WAS JUST WONDERING, WHY WOULD WE UM PUT TEAR DOWN, SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST PUT IN TO PUT IN AROUND ABOUT THAT WAS MY QUESTION, HANK. IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE CAN TAKE THAT. OKAY COMPLIMENT QUESTION BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN ASKED BY OTHERS. THE LIGHT THAT WAS PLACED HERE AND I'M GOING TO SHIFT DOWN TO EITHER KYLE OR JEREMY. KYLE YOU WANT IT? THE LIGHT THAT WAS PUT THERE. THERE WAS A TEMPORARY MEASURE BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF PLANNING AND PREPARING FOR THE ROUNDABOUT. I DIDN'T WANT TO NECESSARILY THAT INTERSECTION AS IT WAS, WE CAN ALWAYS RE UTILIZE SIGNAL IZATION COMPONENTS IN AREAS OF OUR COMMUNITY AS NEEDED. BUT KYLE ANYTHING TO ADD. YOU NAILED IT.YEAH THE ROUNDABOUT WAS UNDER DESIGN AND CONSIDERATION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND TEMPORARY SIGNALS JUST A TEMPORARY SIGNAL. IF IT WAS A PERMANENT SOLUTION, IT WOULD BE MORE OF A THE BLACK POLES THAT YOU SEE WITH THE MAST ARMS. THIS IS JUST KIND OF WOOD POLES WITH SPAM WIRE. SO WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME OF THE ROUNDABOUT PROJECT 25. SO WE'LL GET A GOOD 22 PLUS YEARS OUT OF THAT TEMPORARY SIGNAL, AND THEN, LIKE TERRY MENTIONED WE CAN REUSE THOSE SIGNALS THE SIGNAL EQUIPMENT FOR OTHER SIGNALS IN TOWN. WE'VE HAD OTHERS ASSETS. SAME QUESTION, AND IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. BUT WHAT'S NICE IS WE CAN REUSE ALL THOSE COMPONENTS AS OUR COMMUNITY HAS NEEDS AND CERTAIN INTERSECTIONS MOVING FORWARD, SO THANK YOU. OKAY ALREADY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAS ANYTHING TO ANNOUNCE YOUR COUNSEL? OKAY HERE, AND NONE WE
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GET TO THE RESOLUTIONS RESOLUTION A ONE READING ONLY ASSIGNMENT AND ASSUMPTION OF AGREEMENT TO PURCHASE UNIMPROVED REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT RELATED TO PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AGREEMENTS AND CONVEYANCE INSTRUMENTS RELATED TO THE SALE OF CERTAIN CITY OWNED REAL PROPERTY IN ORDER TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS PART OF THE 33 INNOVATION, PARK DEVELOPMENT AND TO AUTHORIZE THE COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT CORPORATION OF UNION COUNTY TO APPROVE AND EXECUTE ANY DOCUMENTS RELATED TO THE ISSUE ON BEHALF OF THE CORPORATION AS AGENT OF THE CITY. OKAY ERIC, I THINK THAT YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THAT. YES THANK YOU. MR PRESIDENT. COUNCIL MEMBERS. OUR LAST MEETING AT FIRST READING THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS. ASK SOME CLARIFICATIONS ASKED. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION WOULD LIKE TO WALK THROUGH THIS EVENING, BASICALLY THE SAME PRESENTATION WITH UPDATED NUMBERS THAT WERE REQUESTED BY CITY COUNCIL WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WAS REQUESTED BY MR BURR B AS WELL.SO I LIKE TO GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION. BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS. YOU'VE SEEN MOST OF THIS PRESENTATION, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT SOME OF THE THINGS AND WHAT THIS PROJECT IS. FIRST WE HAVE BACK. NO INDUSTRIALS, CONSTRUCTING A, UM, LOGISTICS AND INNOVATION CENTER ON BEHALF OF EASE LOGISTICS. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 308,000 SQUARE FEET, LOCATED
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APPROXIMATELY 25 ACRES IN THE 33 INNOVATION PARK. TOTAL INVESTMENT A LITTLE BIT OVER $30 MILLION. WE ANTICIPATE OF 90 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES £30 PART TIME EMPLOYEES. BASICALLY THAT MEANS 100 AND FIVE FTE S COMBINED S AND PAYROLLS 5.25 MILLION. IF RECALL, THAT'S $50,000 A JOB LAST THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT THE PER JOB WAS. 45,000 IS ACTUALLY 50,000. SO THOSE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN UPDATED ON THE PRESENTATION . ALSO UPDATED IN YOUR DOCUMENTS TONIGHT TO CONSIDER AS PART OF YOUR AMENDMENT, HOPEFULLY WITH THE SIERRA SIERRA TAX ABATEMENT . THERE ARE TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION. THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND THEN THE SECOND OF SYRIA SYRIA APPLICATION THEY PLAN TO START CONSTRUCTION. UM ASAP AND BE CAN BE COMPLETED WITHIN ONE YEAR. IS THE GAME PLAN AGAIN? BEC NO INDUSTRIALS ARE PROBABLY HELD NATIONAL REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT FIRM. THEY DO HAVE A PROJECTS THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE COLUMBUS REGION. THIS IS THE FIRST PROJECT IN MARYSVILLE UNION COUNTY. THIS IS THE SITE.YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT. THE 25 ACRE BEHIND ALREADY WORLD BEHIND MORE YOUKU LOCATED 33 INNOVATION PARK IDEA OF HIGHLIGHTED THE BLUE THAT IS ACTUALLY THE ROAD EXTENSION FOR INNOVATION WAY WHICH I HAVE ANOTHER MAP. I'LL EXPLAIN HERE IN A SECOND. THIS IS THE APPROVED BUILDING DESIGN FOR EASE, VERY SHARP BUILDING AS WELL. SO EXCITED TO SEE THIS IN THE INNOVATION PARK. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN LAYOUT. OF COURSE, INNOVATION WAY GOES AROUND THE EXTENSIONS. THE DATA LINE TO THE TOP. THIS IS THE PROPOSED BUILDING. THE SITE PLAN AGAIN ALL BEEN APPROVED OF THE DESIGN REVIEW PROCESS. OKAY SO SOME OF THE AGREEMENTS TO CONSIDER YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD THE SERIE A TAX ABATEMENT. THERE'S SOMETHING YOU HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN YELLOW AS YOU RECALL IN YOUR LAST AREA ORDINANCE, YOU HAD A REVENUE SHARING AGREEMENT. THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS. WITH THAT ONE. THE SCHOOLS IN THE CITY CAN AGREE TO THE STATE FORMULA REVENUE SHARING FORMULA, WHICH IS 50% SHARE OF THE INCOME TAX, OR YOU CAN JUST REVERT TO THE STATE MINIMUM AND IT KICKS IN WITHIN SIX MONTHS IF NO AGREEMENTS AGREED TO THE SCHOOLS AND TALKING WITH THE SCHOOLS THAT PREFER NOT TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF APPROVAL WITH HIS FAULT OF STATE MINIMUMS, WHICH WILL HAVE TO BE REQUIRED TO DO SO. NO REVENUE SHARING AGREEMENT IS ACTUALLY REQUIRED. SO THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED TO BE STRICKEN FROM YOUR ORDINANCE THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE APPROVED THIS EVENING. THE ASSIGNMENT FROM EASE TO BECKNER TO ALLOW, UH BACK NOT TO BE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, LEASING IT TO EASE. THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE WHICH ALLOWS THE C I C TO ACT ON THE CITY'S BEHALF. AND THEN THIS INVOLVES THE RIGHT OF WAY RELATED TO THE POOR AUTHORITY AND THE BECHTEL DEVELOPED AGREEMENT FOR THEM TO CONSTRUCT THE ROAD EXTENSION. THEY'RE DOING A FAVOR FOR THE CITY WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE TO USE ENGINEERING STAFF TIME TO BUILD THE ROADWAY INNOVATION PARK, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE DOING IT, ALLOWING THEM TO DO THE ROADWAY WORKS SINCE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION CREW ALREADY ON ON SITE. HOWEVER ERIC WE WILL BE INSPECTING THAT ROADWAY WORK AS IT'S BEING PUT IN, SO WE'LL BE INVOLVED IN THE INSPECTION PROCESS TO MAKE SURE IT'S CONSTRUCTED TO OUR STANDARDS LATER, WE'LL COME BACK TO US FOR ACCEPTABLE OR APPROVAL OF QUALITY. SO FAITHS FOUR IS WHERE WE ARE. THAT WOULD BE THE 800 FT . YOU CAN SEE THE ESTIMATED COST ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS, UM, AND THE TOTAL LAND PROCEDURE ABOUT 1.8 WILL SPEND ABOUT A MILLION ON THE ROADWAY YOU CAN SEE THAT WILL BE LEFT EVEREST PROCEEDS AROUND $900,000 GIVEN YOU EITHER PLUS OR MINUS ON THAT. SO LOOKING AT THE INCENTIVE POLICY . YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD DISCUSSIONS ON THIS. OF COURSE, THE CITY IS FOLLOWING THE INCENTIVE POLICY. HOWEVER IT DOES NOT MEET THE INCENTIVE POLICY BECAUSE IT'S NOT A SHARE OF ALL TAXES COLLECTED. IT'S JUST AN INCOME TAX REVENUE SHARE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BEING PROPOSED HERE. THAT'S MEETING THE STATE FORMULA THAT DENSE MEN EVOLVED. I TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER. IN BASICALLY ANY TIME THE PAYROLL ANY YEAR OF THE TERM OF THE ABATEMENT EXCEEDS $2 MILLION. YOU HAVE TO SPLIT THE INCOME TAXES 50 50. THAT'S WHAT THE STATE FORMULA RECOMMENDS THE DEFAULT FORMULA. ACTUALLY, THEY'VE COME UP WITH UH, SO THIS IS SOME INFORMATION NEW INFORMATION THAT COUNSEL REQUESTED AT OUR LAST MEETING.
THIS BASICALLY SHOWS YOU THE FIRST THREE YEARS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE FIRST THREE YEARS ONLY APPLIED TO THE AGREEMENT. YEARS FOUR THROUGH 10. WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU A PROJECTIONS. THE COMPANY IS NOT TIED TO THOSE LEGALLY. WE CAN ONLY TIME FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS, AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING YEARS ONE THROUGH THREE. YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS TOTAL INCOME TAX COLLECTION IS ESTIMATED TO BE ABOUT 168 $169,000. THE SHARE WITH WITH THE SCHOOLS KEEP IN MIND YEAR ONE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO MEET THAT $2 MILLION THRESHOLD $2 MILLION DOLLARS THRESHOLD, SO THEREFORE WE'RE NOT SHARING THE FIRST YEAR WE'LL SHARE IN YEARS TWO AND THREE, WHICH IS AN ESTIMATE OF AGAIN. THESE ARE ESTIMATES OF ABOUT $71,000 WILL PAY TO THE MIRRORS OF SCHOOL DISTRICT TO THE RIGHT. WE'VE ASKED, EASED OF SHARPEN THEIR PENCILS AND SAY, WHAT IS YOUR ESTIMATED NET REVENUE AT THIS SITE? SO THEY'VE DONE THAT AS WELL. WE'VE TAXED THAT AT 1.5, WHICH IS THE CITY'S INCOME TAX. YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE TOTAL TAX THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING AS WELL , WHICH IS ABOUT $49,000 NET TO THE CITY IS ABOUT $120,000 OVER
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THAT THREE PERIOD THREE YEAR PERIOD. NOW WE'VE TAKEN A WE'VE ASKED EASE, AND PETER AND ABBEY BEEN GREAT WITH THIS TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION, YEARS, 4TH AND 10 AGAIN. THIS IS NOT APPLIED TO THE ABATEMENT B. THESE ARE PROJECTIONS BY THE COMPANY. BUT YOU CAN SEE GROWING TO ABOUT 121 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES VERSUS 105, SO THEY'RE ADDING 16 ADDITIONAL JOBS OVER THAT 10 YEAR PERIOD.YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE PAYROLL IS WHAT THE ANTICIPATED INCOME TAX WOULD WOULD BE THE NET INCOME TO THE TO THE SCHOOLS, NET REVENUE TAX AS WELL. AND YOU CAN SEE THE NET INCOME TO THE CITY WOULD BE ABOUT $588,000 OVER OVER OVER THE YEARS, FOUR THROUGH 10. A LOT OF NUMBERS HERE. I APOLOGIZE . THIS IS HANK. YOU ASKED FOR THIS AND WE HAVE A LOT MORE DETAIL HERE. SO THIS IS A KEY SLIDE AND TAKING A LITTLE BIT DEEPER. DIVE IS TO SHOW YOU HOW THIS IMPACTS EVERYONE TODAY THE PROPERTIES GENERATING $825 A YEAR THAT IS ABOUT $808,250 OVER THAT 10 YEAR PERIOD. SO IF YOU DON'T DO THE INCENTIVE OF THE COMPANY DOES NOT BUILD YOU'RE GOING TO REALLY REALIZE ABOUT $8250. NOW IF WE GO DOWN HERE AND LOOK AT WHAT EVERYONE'S GETTING AS A RESULT OF THIS AND DEVELOPMENT, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE COUNTY WOULD RECEIVE ON PROPERTY TAXES, AND THIS IS 25% OF THE TAXES THEY RECEIVE ABOUT $196,000 A TOWNSHIP ABOUT $7000. CITY OF MARYSVILLE WOULD RECEIVE $77,000 FROM THE PROPERTY TAXES ABOUT $396,000 FROM EMPLOYEE INCOME TAX $218,000 FROM THAT REVENUE TAX FOR TOTAL ABOUT ALMOST 7 $700,000 OVER THAT 10 YEAR PERIOD. MARYSVILLE SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT 1.4 MILLION, WHICH INCLUDES PROPERTY TAXES, 25% OF PROPERTY TAXES, PLUS THE EMPLOYER INCOME TAX THAT WE HAVE TO SHARE WITH THEM. THE 50% YOU CAN SEE WHAT HIGH POINT RECEIVES THE LIBRARY RECEIVES AS WELL AS THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, SO TOTAL TAXES OVER THAT 10 YEAR PERIOD WITH THE TAX ABATEMENT. YOU HAVE $2.4 MILLION. IF WE DON'T DO THE DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE GETTING $8250 . AND SO IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT SLIDE TO SHOW TO UNDERSTAND THE TRUE IMPACT OF WHAT THIS INVESTMENT MEANS TO THE COMMUNITY. THIS SLIDE TAKES WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE ON AN ANNUAL ANNUAL BASIS. NOW, KEEP IN MIND EMPLOYEE INCOME TAXES GOING TO GO UP AND MAYBE NET REVENUE TAX FOR THE COMPANY. THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF ONE YEAR GOING FORWARD. EVERY YEAR, GOING FORWARD MINIMUM WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE ABOUT $543,000 A YEAR FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE FROM FROM FROM FROM WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED OR EVERYONE IS BEING PROPOSED, SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT EVERYONE'S COLLECTING $543,000. THAT JUST GIVES YOU A SNAPSHOT THERE. OKAY SO ADDITIONALLY THIS THE COMPANY APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED ACTUALLY, THE PORT AUTHORITIES APPROVED THIS AND THAT'S A SALES TAX EXEMPTION ON THEIR CONTROL BUILDING MATERIALS AS PART OF THE PROJECT, IT'S ABOUT THEY'LL SAVE ABOUT $693,000 OF THAT. THERE'S 100 AND 50,005 $55,000 FEE THAT THE POOR AUTHORITY RECEIVES THEY CAN REINVEST IN ECONOMIC SUMMIT PROJECTS IN THE COMMUNITY.
APPROVAL TIMELINE FIRST RING 7 10 C I C APPROVED EVERYTHING. THE NEXT DAY 7 11, THE PORTS AUTHORITY APPROVED EVERYTHING ON ON THE 18TH. WE'RE NOW AT SECOND READING REQUESTING APPROVAL THIS EVENING FROM CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU CAN DO THAT, AND YOU CAN SEE THEY WANT TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE CONSTRUCTION THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. ACTUALLY HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE EVERYTHING READY TO GO AND READY TO MOVE FORWARD AS WELL. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO NOW, UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ALL THE NUMBERS. PETER CARTOLA WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS AT NIGHT FROM THE LAST LAST MEETING. ERICA DO HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE REVENUE SHARING UNDER THE STATE MINIMUM. WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS ON THEM ON THE ROADWAY. WE CAN EXPENSE THAT UP TO ONE YEAR. WE CAN EXPENSE 35% OF THAT UP TO ONE YEAR. BECAUSE OF THE PHASE IN IN THE FIRST YEAR, THE PAYROLL DOESN'T REACH THE $2 MILLION THRESHOLD. DOES THAT MEAN WE WERE NOT ABLE TO CHARGE THAT BACK AGAINST OKAY, THAT'S FINE. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. ANSWER. IT'S NOT REALLY A GOOD SETUP. YOU CAN ONLY CHARGE BACK A YEAR, NEPHEW WOULD FINANCE AND WELL AND BRAD, LOOK IN THIS AND BRAD CAN COMMENT. WE LOOKED AT IT FINANCING THIS BECAUSE YOU CAN CHARGE MULTIPLE YEARS BACK TO FINANCING AS PART OF THAT, AND ACTUALLY THAT WOULD REDUCE THE SHARE TO THE SCHOOLS. HOWEVER THIS IS TOO EXPENSIVE TO FINANCE AND BRAD, YOU CAN ADD TO THAT. YEAH FROM AN INTEREST RATE PERSPECTIVE, IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT BETTER USE OF THE DOLLARS WOULD BE TO PAY FOR IT AS WE ARE YAHOO! SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I CAN BRING PETER UP . HE'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOU AS WELL. A FEW ITEMS. NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION AS A COMMENT IF YOU DON'T MIND GOING BACK TO THAT ONE THAT YOU REFERRED TO AS BEING ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT
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ONE ABOUT ACTUALLY BOTH THIS ONE AND THEN THE NEXT ONE BECAUSE FREQUENTLY. ESPECIALLY DOING THE RECENT. UM HMM. PATIENTS LIKE APPROVAL OF THE SCHOOL FUNDS. THERE WAS A QUESTION. WHY WHY DOES THE CITY ALLOW AT TIMES TO GIVE A 10 YEAR ABATEMENT AND THAT AND THAT THERE WAS A QUESTION BECAUSE THERE WAS FIRST AFTERWARDS AMAZING UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN A TAX INCENTIVE. AND THEN A TAX ABATEMENT. THE TAX ABATEMENT IS BASICALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS, AND THE TOTAL CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO BE, UH, ACTUALLY IN EXCESS OF $30 MILLION, SO THAT'S A DICK INVESTMENT, AND THAT DOES NOT IMMEDIATELY ONCE YOU BUILD IT. THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE IS A RAMP UP PERIOD AND THAT'S REALLY WHY WE THE BUILDING INDUSTRY STARTED INDUSTRY AND IN THE MUNICIPALITIES. THEY UM, ALLOWED FOR 18 YEARS, SO CALLED DAMP UP PERIOD, AND HE CAN SEE HOW EVEN THOUGH YOU DO A RAMP UP PERIOD, AND THE CITY, I WOULD SAY IS ON THE LOW END BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT 691. BUSH IS MONEY THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR THE SCHOOL , WHICH IS 1.4 MILLION, SO THEY THIS IS DEFINITELY YOU KNOW, BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE WHOLE DECISION FOR THE COMMUNITY, NOT YES, THE ONE DECISION FOR THE CITY BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THEM ON THE CITY DECISION WITH THE CITY , YOU'RE GOING TO SAY WELL, WE GET 70 OR ACTUALLY, WE GET 77,000. THAT'S THAT'S ABOUT THE WAGES, NOT EVEN BY THE WAGES OF UNEMPLOYED E. BUT SOMETHING OF THIS NATURE. YOU'RE LOOKING TOWARDS THE FUTURE BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND LOOKING AT THE AGE OF ROBERT OUT HERE IS GOING TO BE AROUND FOR A WHILE, AND I KNOW THAT THE EASIEST GOING TO BE AROUND FOR A WHILE, SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR PARTNERSHIPS THAT YOU KNOW THAT EVEN THOUGH THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS YEAH. YOU MAY NOT TOTALLY GET WHAT YOU WANT. BUT YOU WANT TO GROW WITH A COMPANY LIKE THAT, AND THAT'S WHY I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED OUT HERE BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT ONE PAGE ON YEAR 11 THAT'S REALLY WHEN YOU SEE OR, UM IN. IN IN TRANSPORTATION TERMS IS WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD. AND AFTER 11 YEARS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT FOR THE CITY OF MARRIAGES. WELL, WE CAN EXPECT 100 AND $40,000 ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN EXPECT 543,000, AND THAT'S WHAT WORKING TOGETHER WILL GET YOU. BECAUSE IF YOU WANTED ALL THE FIRST YEAR , IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IF YOU PHASE IT OUT OVER 10 YEAR PERIOD, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR DILIGENCE OF PUTTING IT ALL OUT AND SAYING WHO GETS WHAT? YEAH I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THAT DECISION THAT WE MAKE NOW IS NOT BASED ON ONE OR TWO YEARS. THE DECISION IS BASED ON HOW IT IS GOING TO EVOLVE OVER A 10 YEAR PERIODS. YES SO VERY GOOD, VERY IMPORTANT, AND I THINK IT'S ALSO KEY TO POINT OUT NO NEW STUDENTS AS RESOLVE THIS DEVELOPMENT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THEY WOULD GET 6000 WITHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT WITH NO NEW STUDENTS WHERE YOU GET 1.4 MILLION WITH NO NEW STUDENTS, AND THEN YOU KNOW IN THE NEXT SLIDE. UM, EXCUSE ME THE NEXT SLIDE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT POINT OF GOING FORWARD. NO DO STUDENTS. THE SCHOOLS GET $313,000? THIS CITY ONLY GETS 140 YET IT HAS ROAD SERVICE COST. YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF INFRASTRUCTURE. YOU HAVE TO REINVEST IN THAT TO MAINTAIN THE ROADWAYS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU SUPPORT THIS BUSINESS , SO THE SCHOOLS ARE GETTING DOUBLE WHAT THE CITY WOULD GET IN YEARS. 11 BEYOND. OKAY ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL WITH THE PRESENTATION? THIS IS ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND IT'S ABOUT KEEPING OUR CITY IN A GOOD FINANCIAL POSITION. HMM REVENUE GENERATING AND MORE THAN JUST HOMES. PUBLIC. YEAH WE KEEP PUSHING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THIS IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH THE MANAGEMENT. SO MORAL COREY. OKAY PETER WAS GOING TO SAY OKAY, YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS? SO HMM. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. YEAH PETER CARTOLA CEO VIEWS. LOGISTICS. UM ERIC. THANK YOU FOR THAT. IF ANYTHING, I'LL BE QUICK. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE[00:35:06]
FURTHER CONFIDENCE. IT'S WHERE THE NUMBERS CAME FROM, AND OF THIS SIDE THAT WE HAVE UP HERE SHOWS THE NUMBERS THAT WE PROVIDED TO COUNSEL FROM AN EMPLOYMENT STANDPOINT OR REFLECTION OF A 10 YEARS OR DECADES OF PROVEN HISTORY THAT HE'S HAS SHOWN WE READ THE INDUSTRY AND RETENTION. WE PROMOTED DIVERSE, UM AND DEVELOPED WORKFORCE THAT ALSO PROVIDES AVENUES FOR US VETERANS AND WAS NAMED THE TOP PLACE FOR FEMALES WORK IN THE INDUSTRY, WHICH WE'RE VERY PROUD OF. RIGHT. THIS INVESTMENT IN OUR WORKFORCE GOES HAND IN HAND TO THE RETENTION RATE AND HOW YOU ALSO GET THAT IS YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY AND COMPENSATION. SO KNOWING THAT SOME OF THE NUMBERS WE PRESENTED, UM, EASE AS A COMPANY WHERE BRAND IS OUR CULTURE IS HIS RETAINING THE WORKFORCE AND WITH PRETENDING TO WORK FORCE, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES AND YOU HAVE TO CONTINUALLY GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO GROW. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE ALSO BRING TO THE TABLE. FROM A GROSS STANDPOINT, HE'S HAD BEEN HAS PROVEN TO BE ANY MARKET. UH PROOF I WOULD SAY TO SPEAK OVER THE LAST DECADE, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL OF THEM. SO THERE'S NOT AN OUTLIER HERE. THAT'S THAT'S PAVING OUR PATH. UM IS CONFIDENT IN OUR ABILITIES AND WE MADE A NAME FOR HERSELF IN THE INDUSTRY, AND THAT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES AS WE COME INTO MARYSVILLE. IN MARYSVILLE. UM WHEN WE DO COME IN PART OF OUR CULTURE, PART OF OUR BRAND IS WHEN WE COME IN, AND THIS IS, UH IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US BECAUSE THIS EXTENDS WHOEVER EMPLOYED THIS IS NOT RESERVED FOR PEOPLE. JUST AT HEADQUARTERS IS OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES IS THE SAME. SO PART OF THAT IS EASY HAS A HUGE PRIDE OF BEING INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, HERE, YOU SEE? UNDER CORPORATE SPONSORSHIPS. THIS IS ALL THE COMMITTEES OR, UM, PROGRAMS THAT EASES AS PART OF HER ME SPONSORSHIP. UM PERSPECTIVE, THE ONES HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW OR LOCATED HERE IN MARYSVILLE. WE ALSO VOLUNTEER AND HAVE IN KIND CONTRIBUTIONS. WHEN HE'S COMES INTO THE COMMUNITY OF WE MAKE SURE THAT WE NOT ONLY CONTRIBUTE, BUT WE ALSO VOLUNTEER. RIGHT UM, WE DO EVERYTHING FROM HOUSING TOUCH A TRUCK TO VOLUNTEERING AT FOOD BANKS, EVEN LOCAL OR FOR MARRIAGE, BUT WE DONATED A BUNCH OF COMPUTERS FOR THE IMPACT STATION FOR THE FUTURE. UM COMPUTER WEB, RIGHT, SO WHEN WE COME IN, WE WANT TO MAKE AN IMPACT, AND THAT'S PART OF OUR CULTURE AS PART OF OUR BRAND.TODAY WE'VE ALREADY CONTRIBUTED OVER 17,000 TO MARYSVILLE PROGRAMS, RIGHT? UM AS A COMPANY . WE'RE JUST OVER A QUARTER OF A MILLION, AND WE CONTINUE TO PUSH THAT EACH YEAR AS PART OF OUR GIVING AND BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY. AND I HEAR YOU GUYS HAVE A PRETTY AWESOME BALLOON FESTIVAL, SO WE'RE ALSO IN THE MIX OF SPEAKING OUT OUR OWN BALLOON TO HOPEFULLY SHOWCASE IT A FUTURE BALLOON FEST. AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO INNOVATION, I KNOW THAT WAS A TOPIC. THAT'S IT IS THE TOPIC OF WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE DOING? INNOVATION EXISTS AT ALL PARTS OF THESE AT ALL TIMES RIGHT TO SAY IT'S ONLY GONNA BE RESERVED FOR A CERTAIN PART OF X AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOT IN THE BUILDING WOULD NOT BE FAIR TO SAY, BECAUSE INNOVATION IS WHAT DRIVES US WAS NAMED THE NUMBER ONE MOST INNOVATIVE TRANSPORTATION COMPANY BY FORBES. THIS YEAR, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF OUR ATTENTION AND INVESTMENT IN INNOVATION. SO FROM WHAT WE PLAN TO DO HERE IN MARYSVILLE, UM THAT'S THE LAST MEETING I WAS CHALLENGED WITH WHAT HAS CHANGED A YEAR AGO. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR PARTNERS ABOUT TWO OF THEM EXISTED TODAY, AS YOU SEE OUR PARTNERS OF INNOVATION OF EXPANDED AND WHAT WE'VE WE'VE LEARNED IS TO INCUBATE INNOVATION. YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT ALLOWS THEM TO COME IN RIGHT AND THE COST TO MAINTAIN AND PROVIDE UNIFIED DATA PLATFORMS OR JUST ANY ENVIRONMENT FOR INNOVATION TO EXIST, TAKES AN INVESTMENT AND WE'RE LEARNING THAT. UM BUT WE KNOW THAT IN THIS LOGISTICS CENTER INNOVATION IS NOT ONLY GONNA EXIST, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO USE IT TO SHOWCASE AND WE'RE EXCITED TO ALSO BRING IN THE CITY IN TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE THE CITY. THAT'S NOT ONLY GOING TO IMPACT LOCALLY BUT TAKE IT TO A NATIONAL SCALE. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BRING NOT ONLY OUR PARTNERS, BUT THE ATTENTION TO INNOVATION, WHICH IS GOING TO BE SHOWCASED OUT THERE AND, UH, I GUESS WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, UM APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION FOR, UH, DISAGREEMENT. AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR HERBERT? OKAY THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.
OKAY? OKAY READY. SO ANY ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL YEAH, AND ANY QUESTIONS FROM
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CITIZENS? AND CITIZENS THAT HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DECISION THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO MAKE. MR PRESIDENT. SEEN NO CITIZENS SPEAK. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PASS RESOLUTION. EVERYONE, UH TO AUTHORIZE THE ASSIGNMENT. ASSUMPTION OF THE AGREEMENTS. OKAY, MR HOUSE, MICKSTER RESOLUTION LOCAL, PLEASE. YES REAMS. SEYMOUR YES, MRS GROUP. MR BERGER. MISTER BURBEY? YES.YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. HI. NOW WE GET TO THE ORDINANCES ORDINANCE, A SECOND READING
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PUBLIC HEARING THE EXECUTION OF A COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND MARYSVILLE BECKNELL INDUSTRIAL LLC AND THE EXECUTION OF A TAX REVENUE SHARING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, MARYSVILLE EXEMPTED VILLAGE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY. OKAY ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, THE THIRD READING WAS WAIVED ON 7 10. AND REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE LEGISLATION AS IT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL. EACH OF YOU DID RECEIVE 33 PAGES ON FRIDAY, AS WELL AS TODAY, AND BASICALLY THE CORE. UM ON THAT ONE IS THE ELIMINATION OF THE SCORE AGREEMENT AND UPDATED JOBS AND PAYROLL. THERE IS WHAT IS YOUR UPDATED? YEAH SO BE I. NOW UNDER THE NEW SCENARIO, LOOKING AT THE 92 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES UNDER THE AGREEMENT 105 TOLERANCE MARINI FULL TIME 30, PART TIME FT EQUIVALENT OF 105. PAYROLL $5.25 MILLION. OKAY, SO THOSE ARE THE YEAH, AND THOSE ARE THE CORRECTED NUMBERS THAT I DID SEE AND THEN AS FAR AS TO SCORE THIS CONCERNED THE AMENDMENT IS THAT WE WILL GO WITH THE STATE AGREEMENT AND YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS TO COME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. IF NOT, IT FALLS TO THE STATE DEFAULT FORMULA, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FALLING TO, AND THAT'S THE BEST, PROBABLY ROUTE TO GO AT THIS POINT. ALREADY. SO AT THIS POINT, UM.IT IS NOW A SECOND READING. UM OKAY, SO WE NEED A MOTION TO A MENTAL LEGISLATION AS IT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL. THIS REQUIRES A MAJORITY PRESENT TWO IN FAVOR TO PASS. SO MOVED OKAY, MR AMES. LOCAL PLEASE, MR REEMS ? YES MR SEYMOUR? YES YES, MR BERGER? YES, MR BURBEY? YES YES , YES. OKAY SO THE AMENDMENT HAS BEEN AGREED ON AND NOW WE GET TO THE PART OF ANY CITIZENS THAT HAVE QUESTIONS. UNDER DECISIONS . THE COUNCIL IS REALLY DOMINIC. OKAY HERE IN NONE. THERE IS ALSO A REQUEST TO ADD A EMERGENCY CLAUSE AND THIS REALLY QUITE A PAY VOTES IN FAVOR TO PASS MOVE.
TO ADD THE EMERGENCY EMERGENCY. OKAY SO MR SEYMOUR HAS THE EMERGENCY GLASS POLICE. MR SEYMOUR? YES MRS GROAT? YES MR BERGER? YES MR BURBEY? YES YES, YES. YES MR PRESIDENT AND MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. MR ROSS MIXED EMOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION LOCAL, PLEASE.
YES MR BERGER. YES MR BURBEY? YES YES, MR REEMS. MR SEYMOUR? YES OKAY. WE DO HAVE FAITH. THE MOTION PASSED. SO WE WILL SEE YOU MOST LIKELY AT THE GROUNDBREAKING. YES OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
YEAH I KNOW. HMM ALAN DEATH WAS OUT AND MUST BE MUST BE IMPORTANT. HE KNOWS THAT ALSO.
NO NO. IT WAS A WARNING THAT THE WEATHER IS BAD. OH, MY OKAY. THAT ONE OFF, OKAY, ALREADY. NOW WE COME TO THE POINT OF THE OF THE AGENDA THAT I'M SURE MOST OF YOU COME TO AND YOU WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE ON COUNCIL FEEL THAT WE'RE ALL STARTING OUT ON A JOURNEY TODAY, AND THE JOURNEY
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IS WE HAVE A PIECE OF LAND. WE HAVE REQUESTS TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE LAND AND JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROCEEDINGS I SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE. SO COUNCIL DOES THINGS IN THREE STEPS. YEAH THE PUSH STEP IS CALLED, UM, INTRODUCTION , WHICH IS THE FIRST READING BRITISH TONIGHT. SO TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER WHO'S GIVING US WHAT THE INTENT IS FOR THE PROPERTY OUT. YEAH. AND THEN, UM, COUNCIL HAS THE PRIVILEGE OF ASKING, FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS AND DO THE LIBERATION AND THEN ON AUGUST 14TH? YEAH, THAT WILL BE THE SECOND READING AND THAT IS KNOWN AS HEARING OF CITIZENS. SO IF YOU AND I'M CERTAINLY COUNCIL IS ALWAYS GLAD TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE PRESENT TO HEAR AND SHE YOUR INTEREST, BUT AGAIN TONIGHT IS A LEARNING SESSION SO SIMPLE AS THAT, THEN THREE WEEKS FROM NOW ON THE 14TH. WE HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU THERE. SO UM, YOU CAN DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND GIVE US YOUR REASONS WHETHER IT'S A GOOD THING FOR THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, BUT, UM, IT'S NOT SUCH A GOOD THING OF THAT MEANS THAT SUCH THOSE ARE ALL THE CHOICES THAT WE HAVE. AND THEN ON AUGUST 28TH. THAT'S WHEN COUNCIL EXPECT TO OR PLANTS THAT TAKE THE VOTE UNLESS THERE IS A REASON TO TABLE IT IN THE MEANTIME, BUT IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL, INTRODUCTION TONIGHT. YOUR PUBLIC HEARING AUGUST 14TH, AND THEN THE FINAL VOTE WILL BE ON AUGUST 28TH. SO THAT'S THE SCHEDULE. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO THE CLINIC OF COUNSEL TO READ THE ORDINANCE. PLEASE BE FIRST[Ord. B]
READING TITLE, ONLY TO APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO REZONE EXISTING PARCEL NUMBER 2900300. FROM AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. RD TWO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PEUT ZONING FOR THE WEAVER MILL FARMS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. OKAY, ADMINISTRATION. I WOULD DEFER TO, ACTUALLY DO YOU HAVE SOME THINGS TO LEAD WITH HERE? WE HAD THE APPLICATION AS I MENTIONED EARLIER THIS MONTH, AND IT'S A REQUEST FOR THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION, WHICH REVIEWS NINE SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES RELATED TO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY LOOKED AT. AS UM, THE DEVELOPER GAVE THE PRESENTATION SO WE DO HAVE A BARBARIC HERE THIS EVENING TO WALK THROUGH THAT DEVELOPMENT. UM IT'S FOR 298 UNITS OFFER OFF OF WEAVER ROAD.THIS IS ALWAYS A CHALLENGE IS TO SCREENS THAT I HAVE TO MANAGE HERE TO GET IT TO THE OTHER SIDE. SO WELL. WE'LL GO WITH THIS ONE RIGHT HERE. YOU'RE DEMONSTRATING YOUR TECHNICAL SKILLS HERE. AND FAR FROM THE MILLENNIAL. MHM.
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OKAY I THINK WE'RE READY. SO BARBARIC SAUCE, REAL ESTATE. I REPRESENT THE LANDOWNER. UM, AND THE HOMEBUILDER ON THIS PRESENTATION, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT. UM THIS IS WEAVER MIDDLE FARMS. UM AND CAN YOU HEAR ME WITHOUT THE. THE MICROPHONE. OKAY SO I WILL USE THIS ONE. SO THIS IS ROUGHLY 101 120 ACRES WHERE YOU LIKE, ACTUALLY, OR, UH, LIKE WE MENTIONED IT'S 298 ACRES. THE DENSITY ON THIS PROJECT IS 2.9 UNITS PER ACRE. WE HAVE A COMBINATION OF 52 AND 60 FT LOTS. SO THERE IS A VARIATION OF BLOCKS HERE. THAT WILL SUPPORT A VARIATION OF PRODUCT. WE WILL HAVE A PATIO HOMES AS WELL AS A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TWO STORY CONFIGURATIONS AND HOMES. THOSE UM, UNITS WILL BE THREE AND FOUR BEDROOM UNITS. THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN HERE HAS 26.5 ACRES OF COMMON AREA. THIS IS CALLED A CLUSTER TYPE OF A DEVELOPMENT. IT IS A SMART GROWTH CONCEPT WHERE YOU PUT MOST OF THE HOUSES TOGETHER AND YOU TRY TO CENTER THE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE COMMON AREA AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF IT, AND YOU SHOULD SEE THE GREEN SPACE THAT WE PROVIDE THEIR ROUGHLY 26% THE COM PLAN ON THIS PROJECT HERE ACTUALLY REQUIRES A 10% SO WE'RE ALMOST THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF COMMON AREA THAT'S REQUIRED AND THAT HELPS WHEN YOU DO THE CLUSTER TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. IN ADDITION, WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF WE'VE GOT ROUGHLY 1.25 MILES WORTH OF MULTI PURPOSE TRAILS GOES AROUND THE DETENTION PONDS CONNECTED TO THE COMMUNITY TO THE NORTH. IT GOES OUT THE WEAVER ROAD, UM, AS PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, WE AGREED TO PUT THE BIKE TRAIL ALONG WEAVER ROAD AS WELL, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S SOME EXISTING HOMES THAT WILL FRAGMENT THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S COMMENTS THAT THEY ASKED US TO MAKE A REVISION TO THERE'S THREE SUB AREAS HERE AS A P U D REQUIRES. THERE'S THREE SUBURBS . WE HAVE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. WE HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER. THAT COMMUNITY CENTER WILL HAVE A POOL AND A FITNESS AREA. UM AND THEN WE HAVE A PARK AREA. WE INITIALLY HAD SOME THOUGHTS THAT THE PARK AREA WOULD BE A PUBLIC DONATED TO MARYSVILLE DEVELOPED AND DONATED MARYSVILLE. BUT WORKING WITH JEREMY SERVICE DIRECTORS IN THE PARK DIRECTOR. THEY DECIDED THAT THAT WOULD BE PRIVATE, SO IT WILL BE MAINTAINED STILL AS A PARK, BUT IT WILL BE MAINTAINED AS THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION.CONNECTIVITY AND ACCESS IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT. SO CURRENTLY TO THE NORTH. THERE ARE TWO STUBS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF EDINA POINT WE'RE GOING TO CONNECT TO BOTH OF THOSE ARE MAIN ACCESS POINT IS GOING TO BE AWFUL. WEAVER ROAD LOCATED WITH THE RED CIRCLE THERE, UM AND THEN WE HAVE THREE OTHER ACCESS POINTS. WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO ACCESS POINTS THAT ARE STUBS TO FUTURE AREAS. ONE IS TO THE WEST, AND ONE IS TO THE SOUTH. UM THERE IS A THIRD ONE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED. WHEN WE SHARE THIS WITH FIRE CHIEF. HE MADE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT OR THE CALL TO SACK HERE TO THE SOUTH IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN. UM WE GOT TO THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, AND HE ASKED IF THAT BECAUSE THERE IS A DIVISION OF LANDOWNERS TO THE SOUTH. IT'S NOT JUST ONE BIG PARCEL. THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT SO ONE OF THE PARCELS COULD DEVELOP IN THE OTHER ONE, NOT AND VICE VERSA. UM SO WE WOULD COME THROUGH THAT CORNER SACK, UM, AND CREATE A STUB ROAD THAT WOULD COME DOWN WHETHER THAT GOT BUILT ON DAY ONE OR GOT BUILT IN THE FUTURE.
WE AGREED THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO THROUGH THAT CALL TO SACK. UM WE HAVE NOT FINALIZE THIS WITH THE CITY ENGINEERING AT THIS WAS JUST ONE OF THE COMMENTS, BUT WE'RE AGREEING TO PUT THE SECOND STUB ROAD TO THE SOUTH. SO GOING BACK TO THIS DEVELOPMENT WE WOULD ACTUALLY IN THE FUTURE, THERE COULD BE AS MANY AS SIX ENTRANCES IN THIS TO DIVERT THE TRAFFIC AS AS BEST AS POSSIBLE. UM AS PART OF THE P U D PROCESS T I S OR TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY IS REQUIRED WHEN THIS PROJECT CAME THROUGH BEFORE THERE WAS NOT A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY BECAUSE IT WAS STRAIGHT ZONING. BUT THE P U. D REQUIRES A TRAFFICKING IMPACT STUDY AND WE ACTUALLY WANTED TO DO THAT.
TRAFFIC IS ALWAYS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS. RESIDENTS HAVE CITY COUNCIL. ALL EVERYBODY HAS CONCERNS OF TRAFFIC, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. WE CAPTURED THE COUNTS DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, SO THOSE COUNTS WERE IN AS PART OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY. AND THEN WE WENT THROUGH AND WORKED WITH BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY ENGINEER. THE REASON BEING FOR THAT IS THE COUNTY LINE IS JUST ABOUT WHERE THE INTEREST INTEREST NOT DOWN THE LINE, BUT THE CITY COUNTY UM, DIVISION IS JUST ABOUT WHERE THE INTERESTS ENTRANCE IS ON WEAVER ROAD. SO THE SOUTHERN PART TOWNSHIP ROADS AND COUNTY ROADS IS MANAGED BY JEFF STOUT COUNTY ENGINEER AND THE NORTHERN PORTION HERE IS OBVIOUSLY KYLE HOYING AND JEREMY'S JURISDICTION . SO WE STARTED WITH KYLE AND JEREMY. THEY DID REQUEST EVEN THOUGH THE STATISTICS AND THE
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DATA IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY DID NOT QUALIFY OR WARRANT TURN LANES, NEITHER I SOUTHBOUND RIGHT HAND TURN LANE OR NORTH BONG LEFT HAND TURN LANE. THE DATA DID NOT. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENTS TO THE NORTH, THERE ARE NO TURN LANES IN THE NEXT THREE DEVELOPMENTS TO THE NORTH YEAR, BUT, UM, I TALKED TO THE HOME BUILDER AND WE DECIDED THAT WE WERE GOING TO GO AHEAD BASED ON THE CITY'S REQUEST AND PUT THE RIGHT HAND TURN LANE IN, UM SO TRAFFIC COMING DOWN SOUTH TOWARDS SCOTTS LAWN WILL HAVE A BETTER WAY OF GETTING THESE VEHICLES THAT ARE COMING IN HERE, OUT OF THE WAY AND FOR SAFETY PURPOSES, LEFT HAND TURN LANES ALLOW BYPASSES. PEOPLE CONTINUE TO THE NORTH, BUT IT'S REALLY A SAFETY ISSUE FOR LEFT HAND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THE COUNTY ENGINEER ASK US IF WE WOULD CONSIDER AND WE DID AGREE TO PUT THAT IN. SO WE'RE MAKING EVEN THOUGH THE T. I S DOES NOT WARRANT EITHER OF THOSE. WE HAVE AGREED TO MAKE THOSE, UM THOSE COMMITMENTS BECAUSE THERE ARE ALWAYS CONCERNS WITH TRAFFIC. A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY ENGINEER ON IS ON PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY. THEY'VE ASKED US TO DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS AS THAT ROADWAY IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION THERE CALLED CALMING MEASURES, NOT MY TERMINOLOGY. BUT UM, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT THEY WOULD THEY WANTED US TO CONSIDER UP THERE.AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE THAT WAS DISCUSSED. THE LAST TIME THIS PROJECT CAME THROUGH WAS THE NEED TO GET PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY UNDER CONSTRUCTION UNTIL REALLY ANY ADDITIONAL DENSITY CAME TO THE SOUTH OF WEAVER WROTE. THAT ROAD IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND I HATE TO PUT KYLE ON THE SPOT. BUT I BELIEVE SEPTEMBER OCTOBER SOMETIMES IT'S FOR OKAY. SO UM, AND THAT'S BEING PUT IN ITS, UM, THE DEVELOPER THAT DID. MARYSVILLE FLATS IS DEVELOPING THAT ROAD SO THAT CONNECTION WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ACCESS BETWEEN WEAVER ROAD AND INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY.
PEOPLE GOING FOR SERVICES AT COLEMAN'S CROSSING. THEY NOW DON'T ALL HAVE TO GO TO FIFTH AVENUE OR FIFTH STREET AND CROSS OVER OR TO SCOTTS LAWN. THERE WILL BE AN INTERIM BYPASS THERE.
SO THESE ARE THE, UH, THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS THE ACCESS AND THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN SEE WE POINTED OUT WHERE THE BIKE TRAILS ARE, AND WE ARE CONNECTING TO ADINA POINT TO THE NORTH. WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT. THIS IS JUST A MODIFICATION AND WE'LL WORK WITH THE CITY ENGINEER TO WORK THROUGH THIS. UM THE AMENITY AREA. THAT'S THE SECOND THE SINGLE FAMILY WAS THE LOTS OF SUBDIVISION OR SUB AREA NUMBER ONE. SUDBURY NUMBER TWO IS THE AMENITY AREA, SO THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE ACTUAL CLUBHOUSE. THAT WOULD BE, UM IT WILL HAVE HARDY PLANK. YOU HAVE STONE BASE . NOW HAVE THE POOL. YOU HAVE A FITNESS AREA, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME WALKING TRAILS AND A SMALL PARKING LOT THAT GOES OUT AND THIS AREA IS ROUGHLY TWO ACRES, THE THIRD SUB AREA. UM IT'S ACTUALLY THE FOUR ACRE PARK WHICH YOU CAN KIND OF SEE UP IN THE TOP RIGHT HAND CORNER. IT'S ABOUT 4.5 ACRES THE PARK THERE. ELEVATIONS FOR THE HOME NOW, THIS IS JUST A SAMPLING OF THE ELEVATIONS, BUT ESSENTIALLY THEY WILL BE ANYWHERE FROM 18 TO 2500 SQUARE FOOT 2300 SQUARE FOOT IN THAT RANGE TO STORIES LIKE I MENTIONED WE WILL HAVE PATIO PRODUCT THAT IS DEVELOPED FOR EMPTY NESTERS WHO WHO WOULD WANT TO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND A VARIETY OF TWO STORIES? THE ONE THING ON THE MATERIALS, THE UPGRADED ARCHITECTURAL PLANS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT IS THE HOME BUILDERS WILLING TO GO WITH ALL HARDY PLANK, SO IT'S AN UPGRADED MATERIAL. THERE WILL BE NO VINYL SIDING IN THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE CLUBHOUSE OR ON THE ACTUAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. CLUBHOUSE ELEVATION AGAIN. THE OTHER THING THAT THE HOMEBUILDER IS WILLING TO DO IS TO FENCE IN ALL THE BACKYARDS. SO AS PART OF THE P U D. WE'VE ACTUALLY MOVED THE LOTS OR THE HOMES ABOUT 5 FT. CLOSER TO THEN YOUR STRAIGHT ZONING CODE ALLOWS. SO, UM AND WHAT THAT DOES IS. IT ALLOWS US MORE USABLE AREA IN THE BACKYARD. THOSE WILL BE FENCED. ALL THE HOUSES WILL BE FENCED IN THIS COMMUNITY. UM AND THE FENCE MAY GO TO THE BACK OF THE PERIMETER OF THE LOT, BUT IT MAY NOT WHERE HOUSES BACK UP TO EACH OTHER. THAT FENCE WILL OBVIOUSLY CONNECT TO THE HOUSE BEHIND IT. BUT ON THE PERIMETER OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IF YOU LOOK AT THE PERIMETER BACK HERE IF THE PERIMETER NOW THE LOTS LOOK AS IF THEY'RE TOUCHING THE PROPERTY LINE, BUT THE FENCE WILL NOT GO TO THE NORTH AND DOWN THE WESTERN BORDER. THE DEFENSE WILL NOT GO ALL THE WAY BACK YARD, SO ESSENTIALLY ANYTHING ON THAT TREE LINE, AND THE NORTHERN TREE LINE IS A LITTLE BIT WEAK. IT'S GOT A LOT OF SCRUB BRUSH AND STUFF THAT YOU WOULD THINK THAT SHOWS UP IN A FARM FENCE AND THAT SORT OF THING. BUT THERE'S A HEAVIER TREE LINE THAT RUNS ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, SO OUR FENCE WILL NOT GO BACK TO THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY WHERE YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT STUFF OUT. SO YOU WILL HAVE THE NATURAL ATTRIBUTES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TOUCH THOSE. THEN YOU WILL HAVE GRADING IN THE SWAIL TO
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CATCH THE STORM WATER FROM THE BACK OF THE LOT, WHICH IS IMPORTANT ON THE NORTH SIDE.THERE'S SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT BROUGHT UP TO ADINA POINT IS DUMPING A LOT OF WATER JUST ABOUT WHERE THAT RED CIRCLE IS AT, UM, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE NORTH NORTH, THE NORTH RED CIRCLE. BUT THE WATER THERE WILL CAPTURE THAT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A SWELL AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE FENCE SO IT COULD BE 2030 FT OFF THE ACTUAL PROPERTY LINE, AND THAT AREA WILL BE ALL MODE AND MAINTAINED. SO THAT'S A PICTURE OF THE FENCE. THESE WILL ALL BE BLACK ALUMINUM FENCES WILL BE ABOUT 48 INCHES HIGH. AND LIKE I SAID ALL THE UNITS WILL HAVE THEM, UM, SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES FOR THE P U D. OBVIOUSLY YOU GUYS ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE NINE STATED OBJECTIVES FOR THAT , UM, I'M NOT GOING TO RUN THROUGH ALL OF THIS, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE FIRST PIECES TO ENCOURAGE THE UNIFORM PROJECT. THE 298 UNITS. THAT'S 2.9 UNITS PER ACRE. BUT CALM PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED FOR THIS AREA IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. UM AND IT IS IT ALLOWS FOR DENSITY BETWEEN THREE AND SIX UNITS, SO WE'RE BELOW EVEN THE MINIMUM DENSITY ON THIS PROJECT. UM OTHER THINGS. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IT MEETS THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
THE TRAFFIC STUDY ASSURES THAT WE'RE DOING THE THINGS WE NEED ON THE TRAFFIC, SO THAT'S ITEM NUMBER ONE. ITEM NUMBER TWO. ALLOWS FOR THE CREATION OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WITH RESPECT TO UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS, NATIONAL QUALITIES AND THE BEAUTY OF THE SITE. ALL THE HOMES WILL HAVE NATURAL CITING. LIKE I SAID, THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES WILL BE UPGRADED. WE'VE GOT STONE ON A NUMBER OF THE HOUSE IS THE PRESERVATION OF THE OPEN SPACE AGAIN. THE CODE IS 10% WHERE AT 26.5 ACRES, WHICH IS 26, SO WE'RE ALMOST 2.6 TIMES THE ACTUAL CODE, THE DETENTION AREAS . UM YOU ALL PROJECTS HAVE DETENTION. TO MAINTAIN THE STORM WATER. IN THIS CASE, WE ARE PUTTING TRAILS AROUND IT WERE PUTTING FOUNTAINS IN IT AND BENCHES SO THOSE AREAS ARE ESSENTIALLY THE NOT JUST ATTENTION. THEY BECOME AMENITIES THAT YOU CAN WALK YOUR DOG AROUND AND ENJOY, AND THEY WILL CONNECT TO THE AREAS TO THE NORTH. SO THE PEOPLE FROM THE NORTH ARE WELCOME TO COME DOWN AND WALK THROUGH THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. THE OTHER PIECES THERE'S THREE SMALL WETLANDS ON THE PROJECT. UM WE ARE MAINTAINING ALL OF IT. BUT WE ARE MITIGATING JUST ONE SMALL AREA, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE SIZE OF THIS ROOM. THIS FRONT PART OF THE ROOM. IT'S ACTUALLY 0.001. SO THERE IS NO OTHER WETLANDS.
THE WETLANDS WERE WORKING AROUND OR THEY'RE BACK IN THE CORNER, OR THEY'RE ON THE COMMON AREA THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT IMPACTING ANY OF THE WETLANDS, WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT ONE LITTLE AREA OBJECTIVE NUMBER THREE PROMOTE ECONOMIC, ECONOMICAL AND EFFICIENT USE OF THE LAND CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT DOES THAT CLUSTER DEVELOPMENTS ARE SMART GROWTH BY MAINTAINING THE HOUSES ON SMALLER LOTS ESSENTIALLY HERE. THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE BROUGHT IT THROUGH AS A P U. D IS SO WE COULD GET A VARIETY OF LOT SIZES IN HERE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE PATIO HOMES THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT LARGER IN THE FOOTPRINT AND THEN THE TWO STORY PRODUCTS. SO WE'VE GOT A VARIETY OF 52 FT LOSS IN 60, FT. LOTS THE AVERAGE OF THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT IS 53.5 FT. IN LINEAR FOOT. YOU'RE STRAIGHT ZONING CODE IS 55. SO THAT IS ONE OF THE VARIANTS IS IF WE HAVE BROUGHT THIS THROUGH UNDER THE STRAIGHT ZONING CODE THAT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN MAKING, BUT ON A P U D WE PUT THE WHOLE PACKAGE TOGETHER, AND WE SHOW IT TO YOU IN THIS SITE. INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS AS YOU REDUCE THE LOT SIZES. YOU ACTUALLY REDUCE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL. AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE SIDE YARDS AND IN THIS CASE OUR SIDE YARDS IN OUR TEXT THAT WE PROVIDED WITH THE P U D OR 5 FT. STRAIGHT ZONING IS 7.5. THE REASON WE DO THAT IS SIDE YARDS , UNLESS YOUR APP CON THAT PUTS THEIR OUTDOOR LIVING SPACE AND PUTS A NOOK IN THEIR HOUSE DESIGN SIDE YARDS ARE REALLY NOT VERY THE USEFUL THING, UM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TARGETED TOWARDS JUST HOME PRODUCT ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN CURRENT APARTMENTS, THE MILLENNIALS YOUNG FAMILIES, THEY DON'T VALUE THE BIG LOTS THAT AT LEAST MY GENERATION VALUED, UM SO THE SMALLER LOTS TIGHTER, THE 10 FT. IN BETWEEN THE HOUSES. IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE VERY READILY ACCEPTABLE TO, UM FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE AND EFFICIENCY USE AGAIN. ALL THE STUB ROAD CONNECTIONS ARE THERE. UM AND, UH, THIS IS A NATURAL CONTINUATION. THIS DEVELOPMENT BEING SINGLE FAMILY IS A NATURAL CONTINUATION FROM EDINA POINT, THE PRODUCT THAT IS FOR US TO THE WEST. NOW TO THE SOUTH OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS, UH WHAT I WOULD CALL TOWNSHIP LIVING LARGE LOTS. SOME OF THEM WERE FARM HOUSES AND FARMS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. OBVIOUSLY IT'S A TRANSITION AS IT COMES DOWN TO YOUR COM PLAN. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE LAST PIECE OF GROUND THAT YOU ACTUALLY CONSIDERED IN THAT COMPLAINT THAT YOU DID A WHILE AGO. UM SO
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IT IS TRANSITIONING INTO THE TOWNSHIP THERE THE OTHER SIDE OF WEAVER ROAD ALL OF THAT GROUND THERE IN BETWEEN INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY OR TECHNICALLY THE RAILROAD TRACK AND WE WERE ROAD.THAT'S ALL MANUFACTURING AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, SO THIS DOES KIND OF PROVIDE A TRANSITION TO THAT. NO, WE'VE ERODE BEING THE DIVIDING POINT. UM ON THAT AMENITIES. UM, LIKE I MENTIONED , WE HAVE PUT IT IN THE CLUBHOUSE TO PULL THE PARK THE OPEN SPACE, THE TRAIL SYSTEM.
PROPERTY VALUES FOR THESE HOUSES WILL BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 360 TO 425,000. SO THESE ARE NOT GOING TO BE CHEAP, AND I DON'T THINK THERE IS A CHEAP HOUSE THAT CAN BE CONSTRUCTED IN CENTRAL HIGH AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WITH THE COST OF OBVIOUSLY INTEREST RATES AND HOME HOME CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS, LABOR ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND LANDS NOT CHEAP ANYMORE, EITHER. UM SO THE VALUE OF THESE HOMES WILL BE IN THAT 3 62 4 25 RANGE. OBJECTIVE NUMBER FIVE. THIS IS CAMP ABILITY BETWEEN LAND USES. UM OBVIOUSLY , I JUST WENT THROUGH KIND OF JUMPED THE GUN A LITTLE BIT. BUT YOU'VE GOT SINGLE FAMILY TO THE NORTH AND THE DINA POINT AND TO THE WEST KIND OF PROTECTED BY THE TREELINE TOWNSHIP LIVING TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN THE, UM THE INDUSTRIAL LIKE I MENTIONED ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID. I'M GOING TO JUMP BACK HERE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WITH THE COMMON AREA IS YOU CAN SEE THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMON AREAS BUFFER TO THE SOUTH AND DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS INTENTIONAL FOR TWO REASONS. ONE WATER RUNS DOWNHILL, AND THAT IS DOWNHILL.
UM TO, UH, THE RESIDENTS TO THE TO THE SOUTH. THEY'RE MORE OF THE FARMERS, THE LARGE LOTS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS AND WE PUT A LOT OF THE BUFFER THERE. NOT THAT WE'RE PRIORITIZING ANY RESIDENTS ON ANY SIDE DIFFERENTLY, BUT WE HAVE DONE A FEW THINGS DIFFERENT. WE'VE GOT A FENCE THAT GOES ALONG THE OPEN SPACE AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE SOUTH. WE'VE ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL BUFFERING. THOSE FOLKS MOVED HERE. 15 20 EVEN MIGHT HAVE LIVED ON THAT GROUND ALL THEIR LIFE. SO THIS DEVELOPMENT IS WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT DOES IMPACT THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE FOLKS IN THE DINA POINT THAT JUST BOUGHT THEIR HOUSE IN THE LAST 3 TO 5 YEARS, UM AND OBVIOUS. THEY'RE STILL SELLING HOUSES IN EDINA POINT, SO NOT TO PRIORITIZE, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT THE HOUSES ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE HERE. THEY'VE GOT HOUSES ACROSS THE STREET, AND THE HOUSE IS ACROSS THE STREET HAVE HOUSES ON ALL FOUR SIDES AND THEY CHOSE TO LIVE IN THAT, AND THERE'S THAT'S A NORMAL DEVELOPMENT FOREVER. BUT FROM THAT BUFFER STANDPOINT, UM THEY LOOKED OUT OVER A FIELD AND THE MAJORITY OF THEM AND I'VE TALKED TO ABOUT 15 DIFFERENT RESIDENTS THAT HAVE CALLED ME ON THIS PROJECT JUST KIND OF TALK THROUGH ISSUES. MOST OF THEM SAID THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE THAT VIEW OF THE CORN FIELD WOULD BE GONE, AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING, BUT WE DID PUT A CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO DESIGN MORE OF THE COMMON AREA TO THE SOUTH. UM BECAUSE OF THE TOWNSHIP RESIDENTS, UM. COMPATIBILITY NUMBER SIX COMMUNITY FACILITIES, OPEN SPACE RECREATION. WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT 1.25 MILES OF BIKE TRAIL, 26 ACRES OR 26% OF COMMON AREA. 4.5 ACRE POT. UH THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT A PUBLIC PARK. IT'S GOING TO BE A PARK WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION, UM, NUMBER SEVEN. LIVING ENVIRONMENTS ALLOW FOR A VARIETY OF HOUSES LIKE I SAID 18 TO 2500 SQUARE FOOT 34 BEDROOMS , TWO STORY AND RANCH PRODUCT AND WE'VE UPGRADED THE MATERIALS ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND HARDY PLANK WILL BE ON ALL FOUR SIDES SO OPPORTUNITY FOR MIX COMPLEMENTARY USES. OBVIOUSLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THE PRIVATE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE PARK ALL GO TO DWELL TOGETHER IN THIS PERIOD, E. AND THE NUMBER A LOT NINE IS THE ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT. SO UM, WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE HAVE WORKED THROUGH THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND THE T. I S TO MAKE SURE THE TRAFFIC IS ADDRESSED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT WILL PROBABLY BE IN TWO PHASES ROUGHLY, PROBABLY A YEAR, MAYBE 18 MONTHS APART. SO UM, OBVIOUSLY I AM SURE THAT YOU HEARD SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT CAME FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. SO WE'RE NOT GONNA HIDE BEHIND THOSE ETCETERA, SO I PULLED THESE OFF SOCIAL MEDIA AND DURING THE THREE HOUR PRESENTATION QUESTIONS ANSWERED ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF. WE PULLED SOME OF THAT SO FIRST OFF. ONE OF THE CONCERNS RESIDENTS HAD WAS TIFF. OBVIOUSLY THE SCHOOL LEVY THE TIFF. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT RESIDENTIAL TIPS. THIS PROJECT DOES NOT AND WILL NOT HAVE A TIFF ON THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND I HAVE GOT THIS IS THE TIFFS FROM 2006? YEAH HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THE SITE THERE. ADINA POINT IS ONE OF THOSE TIFF DEVELOPMENTS NOW AGAIN, NOT REALLY WANTING TO GET IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT ISSUE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE RESIDENTS
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KNOW THAT THIS PROJECT IS NOT TIFFT. SO THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, THE TURN LANES AND EVERYTHING WE'RE COMMITTING TO. THAT'S ALL DEVELOPER FUNDED. UM BUT IN THIS CASE THAT THE TIFF THAT SEEMS TO HAVE A LOT OF OR THE TIFFS, UM, THAT SEEMED TO HAVE A LOT OF THE ATTENTION. IT DOES STOP TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST OF THAT, THAT'S WHY, UM, OBVIOUSLY I GOT THIS MAP SO WE CAN SHOW THAT THE OTHER PIECE IS THESE ARE RENTAL UNITS. WE MENTIONED THAT SKETCH PLAN MEETING WE'VE HAD IN THE DISCUSSION WITH THE, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE TIME, SO THE GROUND IS IN CONTRACT IS BEING SOLD FROM THE LANDOWNER TO A BUILDER THAT WILL BUILD FOR RENT HOUSING, AND I'M SURE WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. ONE OF THE THINGS ON SOCIAL MEDIA IS THAT RENTAL PRODUCT DOES NOT PAY TAXES THAT IS ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY FALSE. THEY PAY THE EXACT SAME TAX RATE 35% OF THE VALUATION THAT EVERYBODY ELSE PAYS. IT IS PART OF THEIR RENT. UM THE OWNER OF THE DEVELOPMENT WILL PAY THE TAXES FOR ALL 298 HOUSES AT THE EXACT SAME RATE THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, PAYS THAT MONEY WILL GO TO THE SCHOOLS. IT WILL GO TO THE COUNTY, THE TOWNSHIP OR WHEREVER YOU WERE NOT NOT TOWNSHIP, BUT IT WILL GO THROUGH THAT THE OTHER PIECES INCOME TAX. THERE'S A LOT STUFF ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT THEY WON'T PAY THE INCOME TAX.THAT IS ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT, TOO. JUST LIKE THREE STORY WALK UPS. ALL THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THOSE DEVELOPMENTS THERE IN THE THREE STORY, MARYSVILLE FLATS CAN MORE PLACE ALL OF THAT THEY PAY REAL ESTATE TAXES, AND THEY PAY THEIR INCOME TAX. THEIR INCOME TAX COMES DIRECTLY REAL ESTATE TAX THROUGH THE OWNER OF THE PROJECT. HOMEOWNER HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION. A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO CALL THIS A TENANT ASSOCIATION OR OTHERS. IT'S A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION. YOU JUST HAVE. ONE OWNER OF ALL THESE HOMES IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU HAVE IN A CORPORATE ENTITY, SO THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THE MAINTENANCE INSIDE THE HOME OUTSIDE THE HOME MOWING OF THE YARDS SNOWPLOWING OF THE DRIVEWAYS NOW THESE WILL BE PUBLIC STREETS. THEY GET DEDICATED BACK TO MARY'S ABOUT SOME POINT, SO YOU'LL MAINTAIN THE SAME THINGS. THAT YOU MAINTAIN FOREVER EVERY OTHER RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. UM, BUT THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION WILL BE THERE. THEY WILL PAY THE TAXES. THEY MAINTAIN THE POLL, THE CLUBHOUSE AND ALL OF ALL OF THOSE OTHER ITEMS, THE OTHER PERSON OR THE OTHER ITEM THAT CAME UP. UM IT WAS A SOUND BITE. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE COMMENT, BUT THEY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT DEVELOPER PROFITS AND HOW THIS GROUND IS BEING USED TO TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM MARYSVILLE COULD NOT BE FARTHER FROM THE TRUTH. ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOT UM AND I WOULD HAVE ADDRESSED IT AT THE LAST MEETING . BUT I DIDN'T HAVE THE LANDOWNERS APPROVAL TO DO IT.
THIS GROUND IS OWNED BY THE LUTHERAN CHURCH. I THINK MOST PEOPLE KNOW THAT. OKAY THEY'RE TAKING 100% OF THE MONEY THAT THEY GET FROM THE SALE OF THIS AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS AND THEY'RE PUTTING IT BACK IN MARYSVILLE BACK IN THE CHURCH, AND THEY'RE GOING TO EXPAND SOME OF THEIR EDUCATIONAL OPTIONS. I BELIEVE THEY'RE GONNA WORK ON HIGH SCHOOL. END OF IT A LITTLE BIT. UM BUT THEY ARE PUTTING 100% OF THIS MONEY BACK IN. FROM MY STANDPOINT, THEY PERSONALLY MADE THE COMMENT THAT I'M POCKETING MONEY. I'M HOURLY. I'M WORKING FOR THE LANDLORD AND I'M WORKING FOR THE HOME BUILDER TO BRING THIS THROUGH THE CITY, MARYSVILLE FROM ENTITLEMENT.
THAT'S WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING, AND THAT'S AN HOURLY BASIS. UM, SO I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT. BUT I HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LANDOWNER WAS OKAY WITH ME KIND OF SPOTLIGHTING THAT AS TO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE MONEY. UM THE OTHER COMMENT THAT CAME OUT OF THAT WAS RENTAL RENTALS AND DECREASE PROPERTY VALUES. THERE'S NO EVIDENCE OF THIS. THIS DEVELOPMENT IN TOTAL ONCE THROUGH 298 UNITS. THERE'S GOING TO BE $90 MILLION INVESTED IN THIS PROJECT WITH ALL OF THE HOMES, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT, THE ROAD DEVELOPMENT TO TURN LANES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. UM WHEN YOU MAKE AN INVESTMENT OF $90 MILLION, YOU'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THIS. THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN MARYSVILLE FLATS OR COOKS POINT. THE THREE STORY WALK UPS MOST OF THOSE TO BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY THE FANCY COMMUNITY CENTERS, THE POLES AND THE FITNESS AREA DEVELOPERS NEED ROUGHLY 300 UNITS TO 50 TO 300 UNITS TO BE ABLE TO EXPEND THOSE AND THOSE ITEMS ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING THERE. UM NOW THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE RUNNING THERE ARE MILLENNIALS BECAUSE THE THREE STORY WALK UPS THAT YOU HAVE FOR 15 YEARS, MARYSVILLE DID NOT APPROVE A SINGLE APARTMENT PROJECT AND OVER THE LAST. I DON'T KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.
I THINK THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE MAYBE MAYBE SIX THAT'S COMING THROUGH. BUT BUT THOSE ARE MOSTLY ONE AND TWO BEDROOM HOUSING. AND IT IS DEFINITELY A NEED WHEN YOU GO 15 YEARS WITHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF MULTIFAMILY, UM YOU HAVE A WIDE NEED, ESPECIALLY WITH KIDS GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL THAT THAT WANT TO MOVE IN. KIDS COMING BACK FROM COLLEGE WORKERS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS SO, BUT THE MAJORITY OF FAR MAJORITY OF THOSE THREE STORY WALK UPS ARE
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ALL ONE AND TWO BEDROOMS. SO IF YOU'RE A YOUNG FAMILY, OR YOU'RE A FAMILY THAT WANTS OR YOUR RELOCATION THAT DOESN'T WANT TO GO BACK TO A FLAT STYLE APARTMENT TYPE OF LIVING. THIS IS YOUR PRODUCT, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT JUST LIKE THE THREE STORY WALK UPS ARE. WE'RE JUST DIVIDING IT OUT. WE'RE SPREADING IT OVER 100 ACRES, AND WE'RE GIVING THEM A TWO CAR GARAGE AND ALL THE ATTRIBUTES OF HOMES. THEN PUSHES ON. THAT WAS ANOTHER ITEM. THAT WAS THERE. UH THESE WILL NOT BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM I WISH I COULD DEVELOP AFFORDABLE HOUSING ALL OVER CENTRAL HIGH BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A NEED, BUT THAT'S A UNICORN. MARYSVILLE LAND.MARYSVILLE SERVICES. MARYSVILLE CONSTRUCTION, HOMEBUILDER CONSTRUCTION, LABOR INTEREST RATES ALL OF THAT. DOES NOT ALLOW FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE BUILT HERE. I'M JUST BEING HONEST, IT'S NOT. IT'S A UNICORN IN CITY OF COLUMBUS, WHERE THEY CAN GET GRANTS AT THE FEDERAL AND THE STATE LEVEL AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS WHEN THEY PRIORITIZE ALL THOSE GRANTS.
MARYSVILLE HAS TOO MUCH MONEY. I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE HOW IT IS ON THAT ON THAT. BUT THESE RENTAL PROPERTIES VERSUS OWN. THESE ARE NOT CHEAP RENTS ON THESE AGAIN 18 TO 23 2400 SQUARE FOOT. THE RENTS ON HERE IS GOING TO BE 23 TO 2700. THE RATES WILL BE MARKET DRIVEN. THERE IS NO SUBSIDY HERE, MAINTENANCE FREE LIVING, AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR. INTERIOR EXTERIOR, THE CLUBHOUSE POOL FITNESS. THE OTHER THING THAT CAME UP DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WAS. THE FACT THAT EVERY SINGLE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE IN MARYSVILLE CAN BE PURCHASED AND RENTED AND THERE'S NO RESTRICTIONS TO ANY OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES. IN THIS SITUATION. THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING INTO THESE, THERE WERE A LOT OF WIDE VARIATIONS AS TO PEOPLE'S INDIVIDUAL IDEAS OF WHO WILL COME UP WITH 23 $2700 A MONTH OF RENT THESE UM, I WILL TELL YOU THIS THAT WE CAN TELL YOU THAT THE QUALIFICATIONS TO LIVE HERE ARE 6 50. THAT'S AN AVERAGE CREDIT SCORE, BUT 6 50 ABOVE AND EVERY SINGLE TENANT THAT WOULD BE ON THAT LEASE HAS TO QUALIFY. THERE WILL BE NO FELONS LIVING HERE BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A FELONY, YOU WILL NOT PASS THE BACKGROUND CHECK. YOU HAVE TO HAVE BANKING BACKGROUND CHECK. AND THE INCOME REQUIREMENT HERE IS TRIPLE THE RENT. SO UM, TRIPLE YOUR MONTHLY RENT, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR. IF YOU KNOW THE MORTGAGE QUALIFICATION PERCENTAGES. IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THAT. SO A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT WILL LIVE HERE WE THINK THERE'S THREE TARGET MARKETS. ONE EMPTY NESTERS FOR THE PATIO TO YOUNG FAMILIES AND THREE BUSINESS RELOCATIONS. AND THAT IS BASED ON A LOT OF THE CORPORATE OWNED RENTALS THAT DO COMMUNITIES, NOT THE PEOPLE THAT BUY THE INDIVIDUAL HOUSES. BUT FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THESE REQUIREMENTS TO QUALIFY TO LIVE HERE ARE MORE RESTRICTED THAN A MORTGAGE. AND AGAIN. YOU CAN'T CONTROL IF YOU'RE IN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL FOR SALE. YOU CAN'T CONTROL IF A PERSON WITH FELONY MOVES IN BESIDE YOU, UM AND YOU JUST CAN'T. SO THE MORTGAGE ESTIMATES HERE I RAN A $425,000 HOUSE AT 30 YEARS. 7% EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT'S DOUBLED IN THE LAST PROBABLY 18 MONTHS WITH 10% DOWN. UM SO LET'S $42,000 DOWN YOUR P AND I WOULD BE $2600 AN INSURANCE $625 IN TAXES PER MONTH. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT 30 TO 70. SO THESE PEOPLE, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCOUNT HERE , BUT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAVE YOU KNOW $1000 TO POSSIBLY $500 A MONTH THAT THEY TRULY WANT. TO MOVE AND GO BY OF, YOU KNOW, FORESAIL PRODUCT DOWN THE ROAD. RENTER STATS. SO THIS IS BASED ON THE COMMUNITIES OF FOR THE RENTERS, ROUGHLY $122,000 IN GROSS INCOME FOR THE HOUSEHOLD, 98.5% RENT CENTRAL HIGH. OH, GET INTO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT CENTRAL HIGHS AND HOUSING CRISIS AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE IN JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES. MINIMUM LEASES ARE ONE YEAR THEY DON'T DO SHORT TERM LEASES 3 TO 5 YEARS AS THE AVERAGE PERSON AS THEY COME INTO A COMMUNITY, THEY LIVE THERE, AND THEN THEY MOVE ON, USUALLY UPWARDS INTO THE COMMUNITY. QUALITY DARKEST SEXUAL OF WENT THROUGH THAT THERE'S THE MIX SCHOOL AGE KIDS . I DID TAKE THIS TO THE SCHOOLS THEY APPRECIATED. BEING INCLUDED UPFRONT, MADE THE COMMENT THAT I'M ONLY THE SECOND DEVELOPER SINCE THE SUPERINTENDENTS TIME AT THE SCHOOL, WHICH IS A WHILE TO ACTUALLY COME TO THEM TO GET THEIR OPINION. SO WE AGREE THAT THERE'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 8/10 TO 1 KID, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND SAY THERE'S NOT KIDS. THERE WILL NOT BE TWO OR THREE KIDS AND EVERY ONE OF THESE HOUSES, BUT ESSENTIALLY, THERE'S GOING TO BE 242 300 KIDS THAT COME FROM THIS COMMUNITY. UM FULL AND TIMELY PAYMENT OF THE PROPERTY TAX AND OBVIOUSLY, THE BACKGROUND CHECKS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. UM LET'S TALK A COUPLE OF MINUTES ABOUT ABOUT THE MARKET. UM OBVIOUSLY, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE AWARE CENTRAL
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HIGHS AND HOUSING CRISIS. UM AND , UM, WE'RE DOING ABOUT 12,000 IS ENTRY. I'VE BEEN A B I TRUSTEE FOR ABOUT NINE YEARS. I WAS ON THE OHIO HOMEBUILDERS BOARD LAST YEAR. UM AND THIS THIS CRISIS PROBABLY STARTED ABOUT FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO IN CENTRAL OHIO. WE ARE PRODUCING ABOUT 12,000 UNITS A YEAR AND MULTI FAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY PERMITS AND THAT IS THE 8 TO 9 COUNTY REGION AND WE SHOULD BE PRODUCING ABOUT 19,000, AND IT'S JUST IT TAKES TIME TO GET THINGS THROUGH ZONING. THERE'S JURISDICTIONS THAT DON'T WANT HOUSING AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF. BUT THIS PRODUCT DOES HELP. FILL THAT GAP OR FALLEN 7000 UNITS BEHIND RIGHT NOW PER YEAR AND WE'VE GOT A BACKLOG AT ABOUT 25 25,000 UNITS IN CENTRAL HIGH THAT WE'RE SHORT ALREADY. MARYSVILLE I WENT OUT TO THE MLS. AND IF YOU WANT TO BUY AN EXISTING HOUSE, WHICH IS USUALLY A LITTLE MORE AFFORDABLE THAN UM, NEWHOUSE'S YOUR EXISTING HOME MARKET IN MARYSVILLE, UNION COUNTY AUDITOR GAVE ME THIS INFORMATION IS 315 $315 PER HOME. THAT'S YOUR AVERAGE COLLECTIVELY OF EVERY HOUSE IN MARYSVILLE. THE NEW HOMES ARE OVER $420,000. SO THERE IS A DIFFERENCE ONLY 12 AND I'M GOING TO LOOK AT MY LITTLE PIECES HERE BECAUSE THESE ARE SCIENTISTS STATISTICS THAT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAS ALSO BEEN PROVIDING TOO. ONLY 12% OF THE RESIDENTS IN UNION COUNTY CAN AFFORD A NEW HOME. OKAY 12.5% CAN'T AFFORD A NEW HOME, BUT 68% CANADA AFFORD AN EXISTING HOME THAT 100,000 DIFFERENTIATION WITH THE INCREASE IN INTEREST RATES MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE, OKAY, BUT TRY TO FIND AN EXISTING HOME IF YOU QUALIFY FOR IT, BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, YES. 12.5 IN UNION COUNTY , ONLY 12.5% OF RESIDENTS CAN'T AFFORD A NEW HOME THAT NEW HOME PRICES SOMEWHERE AROUND 420,000 DONALD OKAY, THE AVERAGE IN AND IN MARYSVILLE FOR ALL EXISTING PRODUCT, WHICH INCLUDED NEW AND EXISTING THAT'S ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW IS $315,000. THAT'S YOUR AVERAGE? AND 68% OF MARYSVILLE RESIDENTS CAN QUALIFY AND AFFORD AND EXISTING HOME. THE PROBLEM IS, I WENT TO THE ZILLOW AND MLS TODAY AND THERE WERE ABOUT 60 SOME LISTINGS, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THEM WERE NEW. THERE WERE ONLY 26 EXISTING HOMES, AND TWO OF THEM WERE $850,000. SO IT'S SOME HIGH END HOMES OUT THERE, TOO. BUT THERE'S ONLY 26 HOMES THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN THE MARYSVILLE M S, UH, MARYSVILLE STATISTICAL AREA . UM, SO THAT IS SHOWING THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME TO MARYSVILLE THAT CAN'T FIND A HOUSE NOW THEY MAY HAVE. THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE DEPOSIT OR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT THIS IS A SOLUTION FOR THAT MARKET WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING NEW, OKAY, AND I'M JUST GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NEW VERSUS EXISTING BECAUSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF HOME HOMECOMING CORPORATIONS THAT COME INTO MARYSVILLE AND BY EXISTING PRODUCT AND IN MARYSVILLE, UM, AND THERE'S A HANDFUL IN CENTRAL HIGHER THAT ARE DOING THAT MORE AND MORE SEEM TO BE DOING THAT THE MAJORITY OF THEM STARTED SOMEWHERE AROUND 2006 2007, AND THEY STARTED THAT COMING OUT OF THE HOUSING RECESSION AND THEY WERE BUYING DEFAULTED BANKS DILAPIDATED HOUSES AND THEY WERE MAKING SOME OF THE REPAIRS AND RELEASING THEM UP AND THAT STARTED IN 2008 2009 AND CAME ALL THE WAY AND THEY'RE STILL DOING THAT. IT'S JUST A LITTLE DIFFERENT NOW, BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE COMPANIES ARE NOW COMPETING WITH THE HOUSING CRISIS AND THE OWNERS WHO WANT TO BUY THAT NOW THAT MARKET IS DIFFERENT THAN THIS. THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT RENTAL MARKETS IN IN THIS WHEN IT COMES TO SINGLE FAMILY. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT RENT HOUSES ALL OVER IN EVERY COMMUNITY. WORTHINGTON DOUBLE IN MARYSVILLE IS NO DIFFERENT. EXCEPT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DO THAT, AND NORMALLY THAT IS FILLING THE NEED OF THAT THREE AND FOUR BEDROOM TYPE RENTALS BECAUSE AGAIN THE APARTMENTS JUST DON'T PROVIDE THAT. BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS NOW THOSE CORPORATIONS THAT ARE BUYING THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES ONE. THERE ARE A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE, SO THE RENT RATES ARE DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN. OR ACHIEVE, I GUESS IS THE RIGHT WORD. BUT THE OTHER THING IS, THEY'RE COMPETING WITH PEOPLE THAT REALLY WANT TO BUY THAT FOR SALE PRODUCT AND MOST OF THESE CORPORATIONS, CASH BUYERS, AND THEY ARE OUTBIDDING THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LIVE THERE. THAT IS ONE SIDE OF THIS MARKET. UM AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WHETHER THAT'S GOOD OR BAD FROM THAT STANDPOINT, BUT THAT PEACE IS VERY, VERY CONTROLLABLE. IF YOU'RE SELLING THE HOUSE IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT, YOU'RE SELLING THE HOUSE JUST DON'T SELL IT TO A CORPORATION. OKAY IT'S THAT SIMPLE. BUT WHEN IT WOULD PROBABLY BE MYSELF WHEN YOU GET YOUR BIDS, AND THE HIGHEST BID IS HIGHER THAN THE FAMILY THAT WANTS TO BUY IT. YOU[01:25:04]
TEND TO MAKE A DECISION THAT MAY NOT BE FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY OR WHATEVER SO, BUT THAT EXISTING MARKET CORPORATION HOME RENT IS ONE MARKET THIS WHERE YOU'RE BUILDING BRAND NEW WELL NAMED ARE WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES AND YOU WERE ADDING TO THE MARKET. YOU'RE HELPING THE CRISIS BY ADDING MORE PRODUCT TO THE MARKET, BECAUSE THIS IS NO DIFFERENT. THIS HOUSING CRISIS IS AS SIMPLE. I GREW UP IN THE EIGHTIES REAGANOMICS AND IT'S VERY SIMPLE. I LEARNED IT AT HORSESHOE. IT'S SUPPLY AND DEMAND. THAT'S WHAT IT IS. THE CRISIS IS BEING BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE HERE. KIDS GRADUATE OS YOU EVERY QUARTER, THOUSANDS OF THEM AND THEY DON'T GO ANYWHERE AND WHETHER THEY ARE FROM THE STATE OR NOT, THEY DON'T GO ANYWHERE. THEY COME TO THE MARKET. MORSI'S PROJECTIONS OF A MILLION PEOPLE OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS. THAT'S 89 PEOPLE A DAY, AND THAT PROCESS STARTED ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO. OKAY SO THAT'S WHAT THE HOUSING CRISIS IS. PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN CENTRAL OHIO AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE ECONOMIC PROSPERITY AND MARYSVILLE IS BETTER AND WE'LL PROBABLY DO BETTER THAN OTHER AREAS NOW. OBVIOUSLY NEW ALBANY AND DUBLIN AND THOSE AREAS THEY'RE ALL SET UP. BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE CAPITAL THAT YOU GUYS INVEST IN UTILITIES AND WATER AND SEWER, AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS AS WELL AS BUSINESSES, JUST LIKE HE'S LOGISTICS THAT YOU JUST PROVED HERE A LITTLE BIT AGO. THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT ATTRACT BUSINESSES THAT NEED WORKERS THAT NEED HOUSING. OKAY AND ONE OF THE MOST TALKED ABOUT STATISTICS IN MARYSVILLE IS THAT YOUR TRAFFIC ISSUES AREN'T NECESSARILY ALL RELATED TO HOUSING. OKAY AND ERIC IS STILL ON THE BACK HERE, AND IT'S HIS NUMBERS THAT I QUOTE HERE. YOU HAVE 22,000 PEOPLE COMMUTING INTO MARYSVILLE EVERY DAY. SO YOU HAVE BUSINESSES AND PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WORK HERE. BUT YOU ALSO HAVE 22,000 PEOPLE COMMUTING OUT OF MARYSVILLE. EVERYDAY LITTLE BIT OF THAT IS OBVIOUSLY HONDAS TO THE NORTH AND THOSE BUT THOSE PEOPLE ARE COMMUTING IN. I ALWAYS ASK THE QUESTION. I DON'T HAVE THE STATISTICS. HOW MANY OF THE 22 PEOPLE WOULD LIVE HERE IF A HOUSING OPPORTUNITY WOULD BE AVAILABLE? AND IF MORE HOUSING WAS HERE THAT 22,000 MAY GET OFF THE ROAD, OR AT LEAST HAVE A SHORTER MAYBE THEY'RE NOT DRIVING FROM SCOTTS LAWN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO TUTTLE MALL OR INTO DUBLIN TO WORK OR DOWNTOWN EVEN WORSE OR DRIVING ALL THE WAY IF THEY HAD OPPORTUNITIES TO LIVE HERE, SO THERE'S THIS HOUSING CRISIS ISSUE AND THE NEED TO ADD MORE RENTAL HOUSING TO IT. THIS PRODUCT DOES NOT DETRACT FROM THE MARKET. IT ADDS TO IT BECAUSE IT'S BRAND NEW. IT'S NOT TAKING AWAY THOSE HOMEOWNERS WANTING TO BUY EXISTING PRODUCT . UM. QUESTIONS. OKAY, NOW IT COMES TIME. UM ABOUT THE BEST START WITH YOU, MR SHIMA WITH ME . YES ME, PLEASE YOUR YOUR DATA.IT WAS GOOD, BUT THAT WAS GOOD INFORMATION ON THE TAIL END. RECOGNIZING THE URGENCY, THE SIGNIFICANCE. OF HOUSING IN CENTRAL OHIO IMPACTS MARRIED, SO THAT WAS GOOD INFORMATION ON THAT. UM. I HAVE A FEW REMARKS HERE THAT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. BRISTOL I WANTED TO THANK ALL THOSE FOR MY WARD. FOR YOUR EMAILS EXPRESSING YOUR VIEWS. WE DID RECEIVE SEVERAL OF THEM AND THEY WERE ALL TAKEN TO HEART. YOU CAN TRUST IN THAT. AH! THE FIRST TIME THIS PROJECT CAME IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. I HAD A NUMBER OF CONCERNS THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN, OF COURSE, WAS TRAFFIC. MEANING THAT THE CONDITION AND ADDING TRAFFIC TO CHESTNUT. AND THEN INCOMPLETE PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY WAS BOTHERSOME. PROFESSIONAL PARKWAYS NOW WELL UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND WILL BENEFIT THIS PROJECT, BUT THE CONDITION IN SOME OF THE CHESTNUT STREET AREAS AND INTERSECTIONS ARE STILL FACTORS WITH THE ANTICIPATED ADDED VEHICLES, EVEN THOUGH THERE THEY'RE NOT A CONCERN IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY. BEYOND THE TRAFFIC. HOWEVER THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER POINTS I'D LIKE TO SHARE. THAT IS NOT THE LAST GO AROUND THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING TO PV AND THEN KIND OF ADDRESSING THIS TO MY COLLEAGUES. PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIRMAN ASKED MANY OF THE RIGHT P U D JUSTIFICATION QUESTIONS IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW AND I'LL REPEAT SOME OF THOSE DURING THIS DISCUSSION. THE INTENT OF A P U.
D WHICH IS THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT DEVIATES FROM A STANDARD ZONING DISTRICT. LIKE A SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL. IS TO CREATE A DIFFERENT, UNIQUE PREFERABLY NEXT USE DEVELOPMENT. GOOD EXAMPLES ARE WOODSIDE, WHICH IS ACROSS FROM BENNY'S. THAT PROJECT INCLUDES HIGH HIGH RISE
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MULTI TENANT LOW RISES. COMMERCIAL PRODUCT AND INCLUDES A THOROUGHFARE ROADWAY THAT BENEFITS THE ENTIRE CITY. HMM. EXCUSE ME. THAT'S THE PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. ANOTHER. GOOD, UM . ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE. EXCUSE ME. HANG ON. EXCUSE ME, HIS COOKS POINT. DESIGNED FOR LIVING AND COMMERCIAL THAT ALSO INCLUDED THE ROADWAY THAT BENEFITS THE CITY CHESTNUT PARK IS UNIQUE IN THAT THE PROJECT HAS LARGE WATER FEATURES THAT BENEFIT THE CITY AND FLOOD CONTROL AS WELL AS A THOROUGHFARE ROADWAY THAT BENEFITS MANY IN THE CITY. THAT'S ANOTHER LEG OF PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY. ALL IN EXCHANGE FOR SMALLER LOTS ON THE PREMISE OF LOWER COST HOMES. BUT THE BENEFITS TO THE CITY. EVEN WITH THE SMALLER LOTS AND HOMES WERE HUGE. THIS P UT COMPARED TO THE INTENT OF P U D S IN MY OPINION IS QUITE LAME. BUT MR BREKKE, BARRICK EXPLAINED HIS COMFORT AND JUSTIFYING THIS AS A FEE YOU DATE. WHAT'S THAT PERIOD? WHAT SETS THIS BEAUTY APART FROM THE STANDARD SUBDIVISION? MY OPINION? WELL, NOT IN MY OPINION, BUT IN THIS CASE, IT OFFERS NO INFRASTRUCTURE THAT BENEFITS THE GREATER COMMUNITY. IT OFFERS A COMMUNITY CENTER AND A PARK, BOTH OF WHICH WERE AVAILABLE AS A CONDITIONAL USE. IN A STANDARD SUBSTATION, SO IT'S NOTHING UNIQUE THAT COULDN'T BE OFFERED IN REGULAR SUBDIVISION. THE ONLY REMAINING ITEM THAT I COULD FIND IS IT ALLOWS SMALLER LOTS. 52 FT FEET. NOT A LOT WITH FOR 252 LOTS INSTEAD OF THE STANDARD 55 WHITE DOT LOTS. AND I REALIZED WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CLUSTER HOUSING. I THINK. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING? HERE IS A I DON'T BELIEVE PLUS HER HOUSING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA. THAT PROVIDES THE PROJECT WITH AN ADDITIONAL 14 TO 15 LOTS OR GREEN SPACE, AND THEY'VE ALLUDED TO GREEN SPACE IN THIS CASE THAT A STANDARD SUBDIVISION WOULD NOT ALLOW. THIS PROJECT IS ADJACENT TO READ RIVER RIVER RIDGE AND A DEMON POINT THAT HAVE THE LARGER LOTS. AND YOU SAW IN THE LAYOUT.WHERE THE SMALLER LOTS ABOUT IT TO THE LARGER LOTS AND LEVERAGE WERE RATHER APPARENT. POINT IS, IS THIS HOW WE SHOULD BE USING BEAUTIES, ONI? I CONSIDER THIS MISUSE OF THE INTENT OF PDS. TO REDUCE LOT SIZES. 2 3 FT. MARK POINTED OUT THERE IS ALSO OFFENSES AND OTHER MINOR THINGS , BUT I DON'T SEE HOW THEY MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN JUSTIFYING A P U. D. ZONING IS ABOUT WHAT IS BEST OF THE LAND BEST USE OF THE LAND AND NOT ABOUT THE PROJECT PLAN FOR IT. AS WE KNOW STANDARD ZONING DISTRICTS ARE ALREADY CLEARLY DEFINED IN OUR CODES. WE KNOW ALL THE PERMITTED USES AND CONDITIONAL UNITS USES. SO WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO CHANGE FROM ONE DEFINED ZONING CLASSIFICATION TO ANOTHER DIVINE DEFINED ZONING CLASSIFICATION, WE KNOW THAT USES THAT WERE TRADING FOR IN A P U D THE PROJECT PLAN DOES MATTER. BECAUSE IT'S THE CONTENT THAT PERMITTED USES. THOSE UNIQUENESS IS. LET'S SET IT APART AND OUTLOOK AND OUTLINED IN THE DESCRIPTION OF THE EU DE THAT DEFINES THE ZONING CHANGE AND WHAT WE WERE ACTUALLY VOTING FOR. IN THIS CASE, WE'RE BEING ASKED TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM AGRICULTURE TO THIS P U D, WHICH UNIQUE LYS UNIQUENESS SIMPLY REDUCES THE LOT WITH. OF 252 LOTS BY 3 FT. IN MY OPINION, THAT'S BASICALLY IT. WHEN UNIQUENESS OF THIS NEIGHBOR OF THIS NEW NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SETS IT APART FROM ALL OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD. IS THE FACT THAT THE UNITS WILL NOT BE OWNER OCCUPIED. I WOULD THINK THAT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED AS A UNIQUENESS WITHIN THIS P U D AS IT IS UNLIKE ANY OTHER LOTS IN MARYSVILLE. THAT REMARK DOES NOT DIFFERENTIATE THAT REYNOLDS BEING GOOD OR BAD. IT'S SIMPLY A UNIQUE CHARACTERISTIC THIS P U D BUT IT'S NOT MENTIONED IN THEIR P U. D. THERE IS NOT ONE OF US IN THIS IN THE IN THESE CHAMBERS THAT DO NOT LIKE OR THAT THAT OBJECT TO RENTERS OR RENTAL UNITS. THEY'RE VERY NECESSARY HOUSING SOURCE AND THEY'RE NEEDED AND JUST AS IMPORTANT AS ANY OTHER FORM OF HOUSING. MY POINT IS, AND I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY IN THE HISTORY OF MARYSVILLE. NEVER NEVER HAS THERE BEEN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME SUBDIVISION BUILT FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF RENTAL. ALL THE SINGLE HOME SUBDIVISIONS HAVE BEEN OWNER OCCUPIED. AN OCCASIONAL HOME IS PUT UP FOR RENT. BUT NEVER THE MAJORITY SUBDIVISION. THIS IS UNCHARTED WATERS IN THIS TOWN, A MESS SUBDIVISION OF RENTAL UNITS HAS NEVER BEEN AN ITEM OF CONCERN
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FOR ZONING RULES UNTIL IN MY OPINION, NOW. RENTAL HOMES ARE CERTAINLY NOT DISALLOWED IN OTHER DISTRICTS, BUT HISTORY HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT RENTAL UNITS WILL NOT BE A PREDOMINANT FEATURE IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS PROPOSED UNIT. LIKE IN THIS PROPOSED P U D, WHICH IT DOES NOT STATE THAT FURTHERMORE, SINCE THIS IS A NEW TYPE SUBDIVISION RENTAL SUBDIVISION WITH THE SAME OBJECTIVES AS A MULTI TENANT APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT HAS RULES, I'M THINKING THAT OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO UPDATE OUR ZONING TO ADDRESS THIS NEW TYPE OF SUBDIVISION. SUCH THINGS AS PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, MAINTENANCE AND OTHER CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE TO DIG INTO WITH A MASS RENTAL DEVELOPMENT. WITH NONE OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS. IN A STANDARD SUBDIVISION. EVERY INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER IS RESPONSIBLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR PROPERTY WHERE THEY HAVE DAILY PROPERTY OVERSIGHT. IN THIS CASE, THE OCCUPANT HAS NO RESPONSIBILITY TO THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY. AND THE RENTAL MANAGEMENT WILL NOT HAVE DAILY OVERSIGHT OF THE 298 UNITS, WHICH MAKES THE DEVELOPMENT VULNERABLE TO POOR UPKEEP AND POSSIBLE BURDEN ON OUR ZONING INSPECTORS. THAT'S A LOT OF UNITS AND 10 TO 15 YEARS WHEN THEY ALL REQUIRE MORE MAINTENANCE, INCLUDING BENT FENCE, FENCE FENCES AND OTHER MAINTENANCE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT REALLY FORESEEABLE AT THE MOMENT. I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE'RE PLANNING AND ZONING CODE HAD A SECTION THAT ADDRESSES MASTER RENTAL SUBDIVISIONS THAT DEFINED GUIDELINES FOR THIS NEW THIS NEW TO MARYSVILLE KIND OF A SUBDIVISION BEFORE A PROJECT LIKE THIS MOVES FORWARD. THEN WE END THE DEVELOPER. WELL NO, THE APPROVED RULES ASSOCIATED WITH THE MASK. REYNOLDS DEVELOPMENT PART OF THE QUESTION THAT COMES FORWARD HERE. IT IS. WITH THIS APPROVAL, PUT APPROVING. A BUSINESS PROJECT. OR A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. UH I WANTED TO SHARE THOSE THOUGHTS. WITH MY COUNTERPARTS HERE AS WELL AS AS THOSE LISTENING SO THE QUESTION OF VISITED A VIABLE P U. D IS IT THE KIND OF A P U D THAT THAT WE INTEND UM FRANKLY, I BELIEVE A SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL THAT FITS THE CRITERIA WITHIN AND ZONING DISTRICT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE. I DON'T THINK CLUSTER HOUSING HOUSING IS THE RIGHT PLACE BEHIND WEAVER RIDGE AND AT THE END POINT UM THE OTHER QUESTION IS MARYSVILLE.MARYSVILLE HAS NO LEGISLATION ON THE BOOKS THAT ADDRESSES MASS RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. WE DO FOR SINGLE SINGLE. UH, OWNED HOMES. BUT THIS IS NEW TERRITORY FOR IT. HASN'T BEEN CHARTED BEFORE. THOSE ARE MY REMARKS. OKAY? THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. MRS COAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? I HAVE NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, BUT I AM LOOKING FORWARD THREE WEEKS FROM TONIGHT. AUGUST 14TH 2 HEARING COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY, OTHER CONCERNS AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO WEIGH IN ON THIS EITHER. AGREE WITH MR SEYMOUR DISAGREE WITH MR SEYMOUR. I WOULD REMIND AND MISS GAVE ER, TELL ME IF I'M OFF BASE HERE. AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL REQUIRES FOUR UR REQUIRES A DENSITY NO GREATER THAN FOUR UNITS PER ACRE OR THIS P U. D.
SUBTRACTING OUT GREEN SPACE AND EVERYTHING THIS P U. D IS RUNNING THREE UNITS PER ACRE. IF WE VOTE. TO MAINTAIN CURRENT ZONING. WE ARE REVERTING TO FOUR UNITS PER ACRE AS A CHOICE IF WE VOTE TO ALLOW THE P U D AND REMEMBER, WE ARE VOTING ON ZONING, NOT A DEVELOPMENT. BUT IF WE VOTE TO CHANGE TO A P U D, THEN THE DENSITY BEING OFFERED IN THIS SITUATION IS THREE UNITS PER ACRE DENSITY MUST BE CONSIDERED. SO AGAIN. COMMENTS IN THE NEXT THREE WEEKS. I WOULD APPRECIATE THANKS, MR PRESIDENT . MAY I MAKE A CLARIFICATION, MR PRESIDENT? GOOD THE DENSITY LITTLE BIT. YES THE DENSITY FOR THE AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL MISS GROWTH IS THE MINIMUM LOT SIZES ONE ACRE, SO ROUGHLY ONE UNIT PER ACRE WOULD BE A R D. AND I HAD FOUR UNITS PER ACRE, DEPENDING. IS THAT NOT CORRECT FOR AN AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL ? IT'S ONE. IT'S ONE ACRE LOTS.
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THANK YOU, MADAM. UM, THANK YOU. SO IN ESSENCE, THAT WOULD BE 100 UNITS. ROUGHLY 100 AS IT IS TODAY. YEAH. GO AHEAD. UM DEPTH UNDER UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING. THAT'S WHAT THE PROPERTY IS OWNED RIGHT NOW. 100 UNITS. IS THERE THE U. D IS ACTUALLY ASKING FOR IT TO BE REZONED. AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REQUIREMENTS. SO THAT'S WHERE THE 2.9 UNITS ARE. THAT DENSITY DOES INCLUDE ALL THE OPEN SPACE WHEN YOU CALCULATE JUST 298 LAKHS. YEAH. UM, THE COMMON AREAS CALCULATED IN THE DENSITY . SO ESSENTIALLY, THERE'S 102 ACRES HERE, 298. IF YOU JUST DO THE SIMPLE MATH THERE, IT'S 2.9 UNITS, BUT THIS IS A REZONING. UM AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE AND AGAIN, THAT'S ALL WE ARE ALLOWED TO CONSIDER RIGHT NOW IS NOT THE QUALITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT BUT WHETHER OR NOT THIS SHALL BE RESUMED. THANK YOU. THAT'S THAT'S 100% CORRECT. AND THANK YOU. YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER OUR ALLEN'S ITEMS OR DON'T WE WRITE DOWN THE LINE FIRST AND THEN? OKAY THANK YOU TIME ALREADY. OKAY UM, MR BURGER, SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU, ALAN, FOR YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY BRINGING UP THE COMMENTS THAT HE DID STEAL SOME OF MY THUNDER, BUT YOU KNOW, AS A COLLEAGUE, I'M GLAD YOU BRING THEM UP. BUT THEN ALSO THE BIGGER QUESTION IS RENTALS IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND HOW DO YOU REGULATE THEM? IT'S NOT VERY IT'S. IT'S NOT VERY HARD TO DRIVE IN MY WARD, WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT AND LOOK AT PROPERTIES AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE RENTALS. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT RENTALS ARE A BAD THING.BUT I'M SAYING WHEN YOU HAVE A CITY THAT LACKS IN FORCE MINT OF RENTALS. THEN IT BECOMES A BAD THING. AND IN MY WARD, THERE ARE HOUSES THAT ARE SELLING FOR $85,000 100,000 DOLLAR HOMES.
THAT ARE BEING BOUGHT UP BY RENTALS. SO TO ALLEN'S POINT, AS A CITY WE HAVE TO DISCUSS RENTAL PROPERTIES, BUT IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN A POLITICAL ISSUE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE. THERE ARE A LOT OF PROPERTIES THAT DON'T WANT CERTAIN THINGS TO CHANGE. SO THAT'S MY COMMENT ABOUT THAT ONE. THE LAST. THE COMMENT THAT I WOULD MAKE IS FOR AND I'M NOT GOING TO RE DISCUSS ALL OF ALAN'S AND THE DISCUSSION OF YOU KNOW YOU BUMPING IT UP TO 298 BECAUSE I THINK YOU ADDED YOU SAID 10. PLUS WHICH WAS 11. FROM WHAT YOU KNOW, YOU ADDED 11 MORE STRUCTURES TO THIS DEVELOPMENT CORRECT THAN WHAT YOU DID BECAUSE IS THAT CORRECT? BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO BELL NINE.
WE STARTED AT TWO. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PREVIOUS ZONING? YEAH WASN'T PART OF THE PROBLEM, I THINK. WELL, I DON'T KNOW SOMETHING. I'M NOT GONNA HOLD YOU TO THAT. YEAH I'M NOT GOING SO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING YOU WERE SEEKING ABOUT 298 ATTACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WHICH FURTHER INCREASES THE DENSITY BEYOND THE. THE 22 PROPOSAL, WHICH IS 10, PLUS MORE UNITS, WHICH WOULD ACHIEVE THE DENSITY AND WHAT ALAN WAS BRINGING UP A 52% WETS, WHICH IN SRD ZONING IS 55. SO I'M JUST GOING TO BYPASS ALL OF THAT THESE PROPERTIES ARE ALSO IS THERE A BASEMENT WITH THESE PROPERTIES OR NO BASEMENT WITH THESE PROPERTIES? NO BASEMENT WITH THESE PROPERTIES, OKAY? AND THEN I'M YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO HIT ON, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH OR SIDEWALK OR WALK ABILITY YOU KNOW, WITH WITH AS WE ALREADY KNOW, THE LOTS ARE VERY SMALL.
UM SO THAT MEANS THAT YOU KNOW, AND WITHOUT BASEMENTS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE GARAGES FULL OF FULL OF ITEMS, CARS PARKED IN THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH OVERLAP THE SIDEWALKS WHICH WERE CAUSED BY LACK OF WALK ABILITY AND DIFFERENT THINGS. WHICH ALLEN KIND OF, UM, TALKED ABOUT THOSE ITEMS. SO I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. UM NOW THE ONE THING ABOUT GREEN SPACE, THOUGH, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UM, SO IN THIS PLAN, THE DEVELOPERS PROPOSING A FIVE ACRE PARK AS MEANS TO JUSTIFY THE INCREASE IN DENSITY OF HOMES. SO THAT BUT OUT OF ALL THE GREEN SPACE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I STILL DON'T LIKE RETENTION PONDS AS GREEN SPACE BECAUSE A SATISFIES IS THE NEED FOR THE DEVELOPER TO BUILD A RETENTION POND. BUT IT'S SACRIFICES THE GREEN SPACE FOR THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, UM, SO OUT OF THE PERCENTAGE OF GREEN SPACE THAT YOU HAVE. WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF THAT COMPARED TO THE RETENTION POLLENS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU KNOW THAT? NO I DON'T KNOW THE SIZE THAT THE WHOLE GREEN SPACE IS
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26% AND YOUR STANDARD REQUIREMENT. UNDER NORMAL ZONING IS A 10% REQUIRED, RIGHT. SO WE'RE WELL BEYOND THAT. SO CAN I TAKE OUT THE PONDS OF THE GREEN SPACES STILL NEEDED. I THINK I THINK WE COULD FROM THAT STANDPOINT, BUT I CAN HAVE THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING TO ACTUALLY COUNT THOSE NOW YOUR CODE THAT YOU SHOULD CHANGE YOUR COAT BECAUSE YOUR CODE TALKS ABOUT IF YOU MAKE THE DETENTION PONDS, WHICH ARE REQUIRED FOR EVERY DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH YOUR STORM WATER, BUT IF YOU PUT THE TRAILS AROUND IT AND YOU PUT THE BENCHES AND YOU PUT THE FOUNTAINS IN, YOU MAKE THEM AN AMENITY. AND THEN THEY COUNT TOWARDS YOUR COMMON AREAS, SO WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN FOLLOWING YOUR NORMAL CODE ON HOWARD COUNTY, THE GREEN SPACE THERE. UM WELL, THERE YES, THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT I'VE BEEN A HUGE ADVOCATE OF GREEN SPACE AND RETENTION PONDS, AND I'M GLAD THAT CITY STAFF DID MAKE THEM MORE ACCESSIBLE INTO THE COMMUNITY BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS, NOT ONLY FOR ME , BUT I THINK OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SO THE LAST, YOU KNOW, SO THE LAST THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY. IS I'LL JUST SAY. IN MY COMMENTS. IS THAT. IN ITS CURRENT FORM. THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES A CLUBHOUSE AMENITY. THIS COULD CHANGE IF OWNERSHIP WERE TO CHANGE WHAT PACIFIC LEONARDO CODE WILL PREVENT OR GUARANTEE THIS FROM HAPPENING. THE CITY OF MARITAL ZONING CODE DOES NOT OUTLINE THE ARCHITECTURE OF OUR HOMES AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND FOR RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND THAT MAJORITY OF MY WARD IS IN THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT. BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE REALLY IS NO HISTORICAL DISTRICT GUIDELINES IN MY WORD, ACTUALLY PROTECT THE HISTORICAL CHARACTER OF ANY HOME IN THE DISTRICT. WE HAVE THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.BUT SINCE WE DON'T ACTUALLY DETAIL THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE HOME, THERE'S NO REAL WAY THE CITY OF MIRRORS IS PROTECTING THE ARCHITECTURE. BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T SAY THE ARCHITECTURE, THE PROPERTY HOW ARE YOU ACTUALLY PROTECTING THE ARCHITECTURE ITSELF? SO THE CITY OF MARY AS WELL. CODE CURRENTLY DOES NOT OUTLINE THE ARCHITECTURE, THE HOMES OR THE NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS RESULTS IN GENERIC PLANS. LIKE WE HAVE NOW BEFORE US. THE PLAN, WHICH TAKES ADVANTAGE OF US DOES NOT SET US UP FOR SUCCESS. THE PACIFIC OBJECTIONS FOR THE P U D ZONING CODE STATES, IMAGINATIVE ARCHITECTURE DESIGN IN THERE AND VARIETY OF HOUSING BUILDING TYPES, THE DEVELOPMENT BEING PROPOSED. HAS WON BUILDING TYPE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THAT AND IN THAT IS, AND THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE. YES THE DESIGN WILL CHANGE FROM HOME TO HOME TO THE NEXT, BUT THESE ARE SLIGHTLY ALTERATION AESTHETICALLY IMPROVED CHANGES WHICH INCORPORATE A SENSE OF DEATH A SENSE OF DIFFERENCE, BUT YET LACK TRUE SUBSTANCE SUBSTANCE. THE DEVELOPMENT IF PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE SAME OUTLINE AS THE FIRST PHASE OF MILL VALLEY ONLY WITH EVEN HIGHER DENSITY. AS OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. STATES 100 YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN WE'RE ALL GONE AND FORGOTTEN ABOUT THOSE WHO NEVER HEARD OF US WILL BE LIVING AS THE RESULTS OF YOUR ACTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. ROSE. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? NO COMMENTS TONIGHT. OKAY, MR AMES. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION I HEARD IT. THAT COMMENT THAT WE'RE. NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT OR, YOU KNOW, THE THESE THINGS WERE JUST HERE TO TALK ABOUT ZONING, BUT THIS IS A P U D. SO YOU D GIVE US THE CITY. UH YOU KNOW THAT FLEXIBILITY AND AUTHORITY AND THE YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO ESTABLISH THINGS LIKE THE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS, UM, THE BUILDING STANDARDS, WHICH IS AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS HARDLY PLANK SO YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. WE DON'T HAVE THE BUILDING STANDARDS FOR RESIDENTIAL HOMES. THAT'S KIND OF GIVE AND TAKE OF A PD. SO IT IS WITHIN THE REALM OF OUR DISCUSSION. UM HMM. THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING STANDARDS IS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION. UM YOU KNOW THE BANK THAT THIS IS ONLY A R. UM I THINK YOU YOU HOPEFULLY YOU SAW MY COMMENTS ABOUT WHY THAT IS RIGHT. WHEN THIS WAS ANNEXED 20 HOW MANY YEARS AGO 28 YEARS AGO 30 YEARS AGO, IT WAS IT'S BEFORE I WAS ON CITY COUNCIL. BUT ARE
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YOU SURE? ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT? BUT WE DID GET THE ZONING OF THERE WERE A VAST NUMBER OF PARCELS THAT ALL CAME IN IN THE CITY AT ONCE, GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN THE SCOTS. AND OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR AT THE TIME. RATHER THAN ZONING. ALL OF THOSE PURCELL'S HE, UM TOLD US WE'RE GONNA LEAVE IT WITH THE TOWNSHIP ZONING. AND WE'LL SEE WHAT DEVELOPS. AND I REMEMBER THOSE WORDS SEE WHAT DEVELOPS BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF IRRITATING. BECAUSE THAT'S NOT HOW YOU DO CITY PLANNING. YOU DON'T WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS AND THEN SEE IF THAT MAKES SENSE. NO WE HAD A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EVEN WAY BACK 28 30 YEARS AGO THAT CALLED FOR THIS TO BE RESIDENTIAL AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS ALWAYS PLANNED TO BE RESIDENTIAL . IN FACT, EVEN AS YOU SHOWED UP THERE, THERE'S TWO STUB STREETS. THAT COME INTO THIS. THIS WAS PLANNED TO BE A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. UM IT'S JUST THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE CITY PLANNING STAFF. WE DIDN'T HAVE A CITY PLANNER AND ASSISTANT PLANNER. WE HAD ONE FULL TIME ENGINEER. AND A PART TIME ENGINEER. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE MARK, SO IT WAS KIND OF 28 YEARS LATER, WE NOW KNOW. SEE HOW IT IS DEVELOPED. I MEAN , YEAH. I MEAN, DEFINITELY. YOU DON'T WANT TO AN AX AND THEN JUST WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS . RIGHT? YOU GOTTA HMM. MAKE THAT CHANGE. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO THE ANNEXATION IN A WAY THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH YOUR PLAN, AND YOU KNOW THE PLAN HASN'T CHANGED. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ZONED AS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD NOT AS AGRICULTURAL. IT'S JUST THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE COMING TO THAT DECISION. AH! ALL THESE YEARS LATER. OKAY YOU YOU WERE IMPLYING COMMISSION WHEN THAT CAME THROUGH, RIGHT? BUT THE POINT YOU MADE AND DEBIT COUNTERS YOURS. SORRY ABOUT THAT . BUT WITH THE P U D YOU'RE VOTING FOR THE CONTENTS THAT ARE WITHIN THE BODY OF THAT WRITING . YES, YES. SO YOU ARE VOTING FOR THE CONTENT. IT'S NOT. WE'RE NOT JUST APPROVING ZONING WERE PROVING THAT EXACT PLAN. THAT LAYOUT THAT NUMBER OF HOMES THAT STREET STRUCTURE THAT. ALIGNMENT OF OPEN SPACE. UM THOSE BUILDINGS STANDARDS IF WE WERE JUST VOTING ON ZONING ALL WE'RE SAYING IS THIS IS GOING TO BE SURE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL ZONING, AND YOU CAN DO THAT WITH . A SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL OR A DEFINED ZONING DISTRICT, BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT THE PERMITTED USES IN THE CONDITIONAL USES ARE WITHIN THAT AND ALL THE GUIDELINES, SO IN THAT CASE, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT GOES IN IT. YOU'RE APPROVING IT, BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT THAT CHANGE WILL BE THERE. THIS CASE IN THIS CASE ONE ITEM WITHIN THAT P U D THAT RUBS YOU THE WRONG WAY. THAT'S JUST NOT RIGHT FOR IT. NEXT. THE ENTIRE P U D. YEAH WE'RE VOTING ON THIS EXACT PLAN, WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM OR ZONING, A REGULAR ZONING. YES OKAY, SO YOU HAD A FEW COMMENTS YOU'VE HEARD FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SO LET LET ME ADDRESS THE P U D ISSUES SO UNDER ANY ZONING CHANGE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY ZONING USE AND NOT OWNERSHIP. UM IT'S A FAIR HOUSING ISSUE TO CONSIDER OWNERSHIP OF THE ACTUAL UNITS. NOW I INTRODUCED THE RENTAL. I BROUGHT IT UP HERE. SO THIS DISCUSSION IS VERY ADEQUATE. YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR RENTAL. I THINK IT'S IN TWO WEEKS, DEB, UM AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THE RENTAL AND THAT IF YOU WATCH THE THREE HOUR PLANNING MEETING , UM YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT THE RENTAL THERE. SO I'VE INTRODUCED TO WHAT YEAH. HERE. OKAY BUT WHAT ARE YOU MISSING AT THIS POINT? I CAN'T. THIS IS AS LOUD AS IT GOES UNLESS IT TURNS UP.OKAY SO BUT FROM A FROM A P U D STANDPOINT, UM THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT GO IN THERE. THE PDS THAT ALLEN POINTED OUT ARE CONSIDERED A MIXED USE P U D S. YOU CAN ADD INDUSTRIAL AND THOSE TO BRING A MIXED JUICE PD THROUGH STRAIGHT ZONING. YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT ZONING AT THE SAME TIME, BUT THERE ARE THE BEST EXAMPLE IN UNION COUNTY OF A SINGLE FAMILY. FOR THE MOST PART , SINGLE FAMILY. P U D IS JEROME VILLAGE. WE HAD DIFFERENT PRODUCTS, DIFFERENT HOME TYPES DIFFERENT. THERE IS SOME RENTAL IN THERE, THAT THAT THE MULTI FAMILY BUT THAT IS ALMOST PURELY A SINGLE FAMILY, P U D. AND FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I DID CREATE A
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SLIDE FOR THIS, UM HMM. MAYBE. OKAY MY LITTLE POINTER IS NOT WORKING. LET ME TURN IT ON AND OFF. WELL, LET ME DO IT THIS WAY. OKAY IT DOESN'T WANT TO WORK THERE. I'LL JUST TAKE YOU THROUGH THE ITEMS HERE, BUT THE CLUSTER COMMUNITY IS NOT ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN SINGLE FAMILY. THE HOUSES HERE ARE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT ADINA POINTS ARE . THEY WON'T HAVE BASEMENTS. BUT ADINA POINT WASN'T REQUIRED TO HAVE BASEMENTS. THERE'S NOTHING IN YOUR ZONING CODE THAT ACTUALLY ALLOWS OR PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM HAVING A BASEMENT. SO UM, FROM THAT STANDPOINT, SO WHEN I SAY CLUSTER COMMUNITY, IT IS JUST A SMART GROWTH CONCEPT OF TIGHTENING THE LOTS, BRINGING THE HOUSES TOGETHER. ELIMINATING THE POCKET PARKS. WE HAVE A FEW PARK POCKET PARKS IN HERE BUT ELIMINATING IT AND CONSOLIDATING THE HOUSES IN THE CORNFIELDS AND PROTECTING NATURAL BEAUTY AND THAT AND ADDING CONTINUOUS OPEN SPACE, WHICH WE'VE DONE TO THE SOUTH SIDE. AND IF THIS LITTLE THING WOULD ACTUALLY FLIP, I WOULD SHOW IT TO YOU AGAIN. BUT SO THE CLUSTER HOME DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE TYPE OF HOME THAT'S BEING BUILT. IT IS A SMART GROWTH CONCEPT. OF BUILDING IN THE CORNFIELDS AND PUTTING THE COMMON AREA AROUND WHICH IS USABLE. BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE IF YOU ELIMINATE ONE LOT, YOU CREATE A POCKET PART. THAT'S ONE OF MY PET PEEVES. UM IN WHAT IS THAT POCKET PARK USED FOR? I MEAN, UNTIL YOUR KID IS FIVE YEARS OLD, YOU GOT TO GO TO THE BALL FIELD. YOU'VE GOT TO FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO THROW A BALL WITH THEM AND STUFF LIKE THAT, SO BECAUSE SOLID ATION OF THE OPEN SPACE IS IMPORTANT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE P U. D. BUT IT'S THE TIGHTENING OF THE LOT, SO IT'S A COMBINATION AND WE ARE REDUCING IT FROM 52 FROM 55 TO 52. THE AVERAGE IS 53.5. IT'S CLOSE TO DONALD'S MOUTH. UM, AND IF WE WERE TO TAKE OUT 11 LOTS, THE AVERAGE HOME IN THIS COMMUNITY BASED ON LINEAR FOOT WOULD BE 55. SO I'M NOT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE 10. DONALD WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PREVIOUS ZONING, BUT IT'S ROUGHLY 11 OF THE 52 FT LOTS. YOU WOULD AVERAGE 55 FT. NOW YOU STILL HAVE THAT VERY CREATION AND CLUSTER HOMES DOES PROMOTE VARIATION OF LOT SIZES MIXED IN RATHER THAN YOU KNOW. PUT THE 52 OVER HERE AND PUT THE 60 FT. LOTS HERE. THESE ARE ALL BLENDED IN. SO THAT'S THERE. THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS COME BACK IN A P U D. WE CAN DEFINE THAT TO TRY TO GET TO THAT COMMUNITY AND THAT COMBINATION OF THE OPEN SPACE SO IT IS THE P U D CHANGES THAT WE MADE WAS NOT ONLY A LOT SIZE. UM TWO STORY AND RANCHES, THE 2.5 THE 25 FT. WE WENT FROM 30 FT FRONT YARD SETBACK SO OF AWAY FROM THE HOUSE AWAY FROM THE RIGHT AWAY, AND THAT'S A CONCEPT OF TRYING TO CREATE THE STREET VIEWS FOR HOUSES. AS THEY LINE UP, YOU BRING THEM CLOSER TO THE RIGHT AWAY IN THE FRONT, SO IT'S ROUGHLY 5 FT. WE REDUCED THE BY OR THE 30 FT. SETBACK IN YOUR CODE FRONT SETBACK TO 25 FT. TO BRING THOSE HOUSES UP THAT DOES TWO THINGS ONE THAT GIVES YOU A BETTER STREET VIEW BECAUSE HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY USE YOUR FRONT YARD AND IT OPENS UP ANOTHER 5 FT. TO BE USED IN THE BACK OF THE YARD WHEN WE FENCE THAT IN, SO WE'RE TRYING TO UTILIZE THE SPACE MORE EFFICIENTLY, AND THAT'S ALSO A SMART SMART GROWTH COME COMMENT.THE OTHER PIECE IS STRAIGHT ZONING DOES NOT REQUIRE A TRAFFIC STUDY. HENCE IT WHEN IT CAME THROUGH STRAIGHT ZONING. EVERYBODY WAS GUESSING AS TO WHAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS. SO THE P U D REQUIRES US TO DO. A TRAFFIC STUDY REQUIRES THE CITY TO REVIEW AND ANALYZE IN THE COUNTY TO ANALYZE THAT TRAFFIC STUDY. SO BRINGING IT THROUGH AS A RESIDENTIAL P U. D ALSO PROMOTES THAT ITEM, WHICH HOPEFULLY ANSWERS SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU INVOICE IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING. THE OTHER PIECE IS COMMUNITY WIDE FENCING . SO IF THIS WAS SINGLE FAMILY, EACH FENCE APPROVAL WILL HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. WE'RE DOING THAT UP FRONT. THE OTHER PIECE THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS THERE'S NOTHING IN YOUR CODE THAT TALKS ABOUT QUALITY OF CONSTRUCTION, EVEN FOR SINGLE FAMILY. IT'S NOT THERE. WE BROUGHT THIS UP AND SAID, WE'RE GOING TO PUT STONE ON THE FRONT. WE'RE GOING TO PUT HARDY PLAYING. SO WE'RE TRYING TO PROVE TO YOU THAT THERE ARE HIGHER MATERIALS GOING INTO THIS COMMENT ABOUT THE BASEMENT. YOU GOT TO REMEMBER OUR TARGET MARKET HERE. PEOPLE LIVING IN THREE STORY APARTMENTS. 7 51 BEDROOM SQUARE FOOT ONE BEDROOM 8 59 52 BEDROOM. THEY DON'T MAINTAIN THIS STUFF. THE MILLENNIALS HAVE NOT ACCUMULATED LIKE MY GENERATION ACCUMULATED. THE EMPTY NESTERS. THERE'S A REASON THAT REDWOOD TRIPOLIS WILCOX AND ABOUT 60% OF THE HOUSES THAT F CON BUILD, DO NOT HAVE BASEMENTS BECAUSE THEY DOWNSIZED OUT. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF DOWNSIZING. YOU GET RID OF ALL YOUR KIDS, GARBAGE, YOU KNOW, AND YOU SEND IT TO WHEREVER WHEREVER THEY'RE AT.
WE'RE DOING THAT RIGHT NOW IN LIFE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THAT BUSINESS RELOCATIONS. NO THEY DON'T HAVE THAT. SO THE GARAGES WON'T BE FULL. BUT THERE ARE FOUR SPACES TO IN THE GARAGE AND TWO OUT AND THAT MEETS YOUR CODE. AS TO THE NUMBER THERE WILL BE ON STREET PARKING AVAILABLE, BUT WE'RE NOT THINKING THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE IN THESE TARGET MARKETS
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ARE THE ONES THAT ARE FILLING THEIR GARAGE TO THE RIM AND CAN'T PARK A CAR IN IT, OR IF THERE'S A CAR IN IT. IT HASN'T RUN IN 20 YEARS, AND IT'S JUST BEEN SITTING IN THERE. UM SO WE ARE UPGRADING THE MATERIALS. THE CLUSTER HOUSING IS BEING ADDRESSED. UM YEAH, AND I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT ADDRESS UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION THAT, UM ONE EXAMPLE IN THE CITY OF A P U D. WITH NARROWER SETBACKS RIGHT NOW IS SHEPHERD'S LANDING, SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD ONE AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT'S KIND OF AN IDEA.WHAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING HERE. IT'S A LOT SMALLER. BUT IT'S GOT THE NARROWER LOTS. NARROW SIDE SETBACKS. AND WE ARE TALKING 2.5 FT. I MEAN, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE DIFFERENCE IN LOT SIZE IS ABOUT THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. LET'S TAKE US UM, DOES THE BUILDER HAVE OTHER COMMUNITIES IN CENTRAL OHIO THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO LOOK AT THEIR UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW? SO THERE'S ONE AT NORTH NORTH NORTH STAR NATIONWIDE, SOLD THEM A PRODUCT. IT'S 100 UNITS AT NORTHSTAR NORTHSTAR GOLF COURSE RIGHT THERE, AND GALINA, SO IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION THERE. THEY'VE GOT A PROJECT IN VIOLENT TOWNSHIP PICK RINGTONE AREA THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND PROBABLY IN THE NEXT 6 TO 9 MONTHS. THEY WERE APPROVED ON THE PROJECT IN JEROME TOWNSHIP. AND ONE OTHER QUESTION THEY DO HAVE THIS PRODUCT. THEY HAVE THIS PRODUCT UP AND AVAILABLE IN ATLANTA. I'VE SEEN THE PRODUCT PERSONALLY AND IT IT IS DIFFERENT THAN 2000 HOUSES THAT THE COMPANY MAY OWN THROUGHOUT CENTRAL. HOW IT IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BUSINESS MODEL. AND LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW , PEOPLE THAT INVEST $90 MILLION IN A SINGLE PROJECT. MAINTAIN THOSE PROJECTS YOU HAD MENTIONED THE, UM FENCING. BUT THE INDIVIDUAL RENTAL RENTER IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR KNOWING THEIR OWN YARD. CORRECT THAT IS CORRECT INSIDE THE FENCE AND OUTSIDE SO PUTTING IN THOSE FENCES GUN CREATE A LOT OF EXTRA TIME FOR THE MONEY LANDSCAPE COMPANIES THAT WOULD DO THAT SO YEAH, OK, SO THAT IF YOU IMAGINE THAT EVERY HOUSE HAS IT, I MEAN , IT IS JUST LIKE THE PICTURE SHOWED ITS LINED UP VERY NICELY . IT'S VERY CLEAN IN THAT ALL THE KIDS TORIES ARE IN THE BACKYARD. ALL THE DOGS ARE IN THE BACKYARD AND THOSE ANIMALS THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BRING IN THERE. I MEAN THE FENCES IN A SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITIES. EACH INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER MAKES A DECISION. AND IF YOU'RE BESIDES SOMEBODY THAT MAKES A DECISION FOR OFFENSE FOR LACK OF ANY OF YOUR OWN APPROVAL, YOU'RE GOING TO GET AT LEAST ONE SIDE OF THE FENCE. NOW MOST H O S ACTUALLY REQUIRE THE PRETTY SIDE OF THE FENCE TO FACE OUTWARDS AND NOT IN BUT THAT'S THE CRITERIA THERE IS AND.
HMM HELLO. YEAH OKAY. WHEN WE STARTED OH, YEAH. WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS IS TO SIT DOWN WITH THE CITY STAFF AND THE CITY MANAGER, AND WE DID THAT, AND THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE BRING THIS THROUGH AS A P U D THAT IS NO LONGER ON MY COMPUTER. SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT IS. YEAH I AM. WELL, WELL, MAYBE GRANDCHILDREN SOMETHING. YEAH BUT WHEN WE WHEN WE DID START THIS PROCESS, WE TALKED ABOUT THE OBJECTIVES TRYING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS ON TRAFFIC . SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD THROUGH THE LAST CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION WHEN THIS APPROVAL CAME AND THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF WAS TO BRING THIS THROUGH AS A P U D BECAUSE IT GAVE US MORE FLEXIBILITY TO ADDRESS AND TO BE ABLE TO ADD THESE THINGS IN AND AS I PRESENT THE P U D THESE MATERIALS. HARDY PLANK IS THERE THERE WILL NOT BE VINYL. THERE WILL NOT THERE. THE STONE IS THERE. THE LANDSCAPING IS THERE . YOU KNOW, THESE ITEMS ARE THERE. UM YOU KNOW, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND UNDERSTAND THE CODE.
I THINK IT WAS DONALD'S QUESTION ON WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY WANT TO CLOSE THE POOL AND THE FITNESS AREA. WELL I THINK RENTS WOULD DECREASE QUITE A BIT. I MEAN, I GUESS THREE STORY WALK UP LIKE MARYSVILLE FLATS OR OR CAN MORE PLACE THAT HAVE THOSE BIG CLUBHOUSES? I MEAN, I GUESS THEY COULD TECHNICALLY CLOSED THEIR CLUBHOUSE TOO. BUT IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE A VERY GOOD A BUSINESS MODEL TO DO SO. BECAUSE THEIR TARGET MARKET REALLY, REALLY LIKES THOSE ITEMS. OKAY I HAVE ONE WORD ONE MONTH. OKAY THE ONLY QUESTION IS FOR MISS GABER. REDWOOD DEVELOPMENT, THE
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NEW ONE THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING BUILD IN FRONT OF SCOTT FARMS DEVELOPMENT. DOES THAT ONE CURRENTLY HAVE BASEMENTS OR NO BASEMENTS? BASEMENTS? OKAY. THANK YOU, OKAY. ALREADY WELL AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE ALL TRAVEL THROUGH THIS TOGETHER. YEAH YOU'VE HEARD THE INTRODUCTION TONIGHT. YOU'VE HEARD THE FIRST QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. THE NEXT ROUND WILL BE AUGUST 14TH WHEN WE DO HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU. HOPEFULLY THIS GAVE YOU SOME IDEA OF WHAT? THE DEVELOPER UM UM THIS PLANNING TO DO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL HAS HAD ON THIS AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD WAY FOR US TO CONTINUE TO TRAVEL. OVER THE NEXT MONTH, AND SHE WHERE THIS IS GOING TO TAKE US. UM THERE WAS A POINT THAT WE CAN MAKE A FINAL DECISION ON AUGUST 28TH SO AGAIN WITHOUT I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THIS SESSION OF OUR AGENDA, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. HOPEFULLY YOU ALL LEARNED SOMETHING FROM IT AND AGAIN, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME AND TO STAY AND, UM HE WAS CONDUCT SOME OF OUR OTHER BUSINESS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US YET TONIGHT, SO OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOVING ON. CAME IN GOLF CARTS, AND THERE'S A CHANCE TO GET WET. THANK YOU. ACTUALLY, SHE GOLF PUTS HER OKAY. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU. TOWN BUT OKAY. YEP. THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU. ACTUALLY I GOTTA DO IS CALL.YEAH WELL, THAT'S TRUE. YEAH. YEAH THANK YOU FOR CHEERS. BARBARA. THANK YOU.
I DON'T KNOW. THIS IS THE MAN FOR ME. HMM. OKAY SO SINCE PR ALBECK AGAIN IN SESSION, LIKE TO
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MOVE FORWARD WITH ORDINANCE SEE FIRST READING TITLE, ONLY THE ISSUANCE OF NOTES AND THE AMOUNT OF NOT TO EXCEED $2 MILLION ANTICIPATION OF THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF DESIGNING ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTING CERTAIN ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT GROWTH PROJECT WITH THE RELATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS AND APPRENTICES THERE, TOO, AND AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING RELATED MATTERS. OKAY MINISTRATIONS. UM SO. THIS IS FOR THE SCOTS FACILITY OUT ON INNOVATION PARKWAY. AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, THERE WAS A TIFF APPROVED FOR THE ASSISTANCE OF BUILDING THE TURN LANE THAT WOULD ALLOW TRAFFIC TO MAINTAIN ITS NORMAL SPEED DOWN INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY, BUT YET GIVING THE TRUCKS THAT MOST PREDOMINANTLY WOULD BE COMING FROM. THE DIRECTION OF SCOTS TO PULL INTO THE FACILITY. UM THERE WAS A LOT OF YOU KNOW THE ROADWAYS IN THE COUNTY. STILL SO EVEN THOUGH THE LAND THAT THE SCOTS DISTRIBUTION FACILITY SITS ON IS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS THE BROADWAY STAY WITHIN THE COUNTY, SO WE HAD TO WAIT UNTIL THE COUNTY AND THE DEVELOPER CAME TO AN AGREEMENT ON WHAT THAT TERM LANE WAS GONNA LOOK LIKE AND OBVIOUSLY WHAT THE BUDGET OF THAT WAS GOING TO BE.THAT WAS ALL FINALIZED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, SO IT WAS THEN TIME TO GO AHEAD AND ISSUE THE NOTES. THAT WOULD BE, OF COURSE , PAID FOR FROM THE TEF PROCEEDS LIKE QUITE FRANKLY, MOST OF OUR OTHER COMMERCIAL TESTS. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE HERE IS THE LENGTH OF THE TAFT GIVEN THE C R A. AND THAT'S NOT SCHOOL TIFF. SO THEY'RE THE DEBT ISSUANCE FOR THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN UM, WHAT YOU ONCE AGAIN NORMALLY SEEN WITH THE 10 YEAR TESTS THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, BUT OTHER THAN THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT, THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE WITH THIS THAN ANY OTHER TEMP THAT WE'VE DONE RECENTLY. OKAY ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. AH IT IS MY
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UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS PARTICULAR PART THAT BUILDING IS PART OF THE FAIRBANKS SCHOOL.YEAH SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT AGREEMENT WITH THE BANK SCHOOLS MADE AT THE TIME THAT THE BUILDING WAS BUILT THAT I THINK IS, UM, COVERED BY THE GROUNDS. YEAH THE BUILDING ITSELF HAD A TAX ABATEMENT ON IT, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY THE GROUND THAT COVERS THE AND, OF COURSE, THE GROUND NOT BEING AS HIGH IN VALUE WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN WE USUALLY HAVE. BUT IT IS COVERED BY THE T F. AND OF COURSE, IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THAT, LOOKING BACK, THERE WAS ALSO A PILOT PROGRAM IN PLACE WITH THE SCHOOL AT THAT TIME, SO AT THIS POINT B DON'T NEED TO BE CONCERNED FROM WHAT I CAN SEE ABOUT SCHOOL. THIS IS THIS STRAIGHTFORWARD. THIS WAS ON THE BEGINNING IN THE PLANNING TO DO NOW, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, UM BEGINNING TO EXECUTE THIS IS THAT THE REASON MOTHER ASSUMPTION YES. ALTHOUGH I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE GROUND. UM THAT SOME OF THE MORE SOME OF THE TESTS WE'VE DONE RECENTLY. I MEAN, THIS IS A THIS IS A HUGE FACILITY. SO THIS IS A LOT MORE ACREAGE. THEN YOU KNOW THE INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'VE DONE MOST RECENTLY INVOLVING, SAY, PIONEER OR THE WORLD OR SO FORTH, JUST TO GIVE AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH VALUE INCREMENT THAT THERE WERE GOING TO SEE IF THEY'RE NOT ULTIMATELY GO INTO THE TIP. HMM OKAY. BUT AGAIN, THERE'S THIS THIS DECISION JUST A NEW THING FOR US. THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF WHAT WE STARTED ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO. CORRECT OK ALREADY, SO UNDERSTOOD ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON
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AUGUST. THE 14TH ORDINANCE, THE SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING TO AUTHORIZE THE SALE OF PUBLIC SERVICE ITEMS VALUED OVER $1000 , OKAY AND AGAIN IN YOUR ELECTRONIC VERSION, YOU DID RECEIVE THE LIST OF A ITEMS ON 7 10. SORRY ON PAGE 22. THIS WAS BEFORE THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND ON 7 10. WE DID WAVE TO THIRD READING. SO AT THIS POINT, ANY PHOTO QUESTIONS? NOTHING PRODUCTS COUNCIL. UM, HAVE ANYTHING OKAY? WE HAVE TO DO THE CITIZENS FIRST, SO. OH THERE ANY CITIZENS THAT MAY HAVE QUESTIONS ON WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO HERE HEARING? NONE PLEASE STAY.ALL MEANS MOTIONS ARE STILL ON THE TABLE. OR WAS IT NEVER ON THE TABLE? I OKAY. HANG ON. JUST A MOMENT. JOHN HAS A QUESTION MICROPHONE. JOHN MARSHALL 12 11 WOULD LINE DRIVE, UM, THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN COMING UP FOR SALE AND WHATNOT. WHERE DO YOU FIND OUT THE LIST? OR WHERE CAN YOU FIND OUT WHERE YOU CAN BID ON THOSE? THAT'S ALL THROUGH THE INTERNET INTERNET AUCTION COMPANY THAT WE'VE USED GOV DEALS, SO OKAY? AND I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE OTHER QUESTION.
THIS ISN'T ACTUALLY THE CITY ISN'T DOING THIS. THIS IS THIRD PARTY. SO IS THERE A BLANK AROUND? THE CITY WEBSITE TO FIND THAT I BELIEVE IT IS ON THE CITY WEB. YEAH, WE'LL MAKE SURE IT IS. BUT YEAH, DEEPER THAN BUT THANK YOU. NO, THANK YOU. OKAY UM, I'M CURRENTLY ON PAGE 206.
SO THAT SHOWS YOU HOW BIG TOBACCO IT WAS. AND THERE IS THE NEXT WORLD BREAKDOWN. SO, UM PARDON? THAT'S THE PACKAGE. YES YES. SO YEAH. UM MCKENZIE COULD TROUBLE YOU TO GOV DEALS AND IT LETS GO OF DEALS IS IN THE ACTUAL ORDINANCES WHO DOES IT, AND THERE ARE REQUIRED LEGAL NOTICES THAT WILL BE SENT OUT BEFORE. THINGS ARE SOLD. BACK. OKAY YEAH, I CAN SEND WE CAN I CAN GET YOUR INFORMATION AND SEND ADDITIONAL NOTICES. IF YOU'D LIKE THAT, TOO. IT IS SPEECH TO 39 AND THE FIVE ITEMS JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE IS A 909 190 EAGER PEOPLE BLOW BOY TAYLOR. YEAH AND THOSE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT WE ANTICIPATE TO BE OVER $1000. WE HAVE 2001 4 F 3 50 SUPER DUTY. THAT USED TO BE USED BY THE POETICS. NOW BY THE TIME IT HITS THE POLITICS, IT
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PROBABLY WENT THROUGH ABOUT THREE OR FOUR APARTMENTS THERE, SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU AND IDEA WE HAVE A 2004 CRICHTON UTILITY TRAILER WITH ALL STATES. INCLUDED WHICH WAS USED BY RECKON EVENT. WE HAVE A 2005 4 E 4 50 AMBULANCE AND WE HAVE A 215 GROUNDSKEEPER 4000 THE MOBILE AND AGAIN THIS COMES FROM PARKS AND BECAME GPU. DON'T MIND THIS IS PAGE 2 39 IN THE PACKET. IF YOU CAN GET IT TO JOHN, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. OKAY DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? WONDERFUL SO ANYWAY, SINCE WE DID THE THIRD READING ANYMORE CITIZENS THAT LIKE THE TIME IN HEARING NONE. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOTION TO PASS LEGISLATION, MR. AMES MAKES THE MOTION LOCAL, PLEASE, MR BERGER ? YES WE YES. YES MR REEMS. MR SEYMOUR? YES YES. SIX YES. OKAY[Ord. E]
THE MOTION PASSED ORDINANCE E SECOND READING. PUBLIC HEARING IN CHAPTER 9 37 STORMWATER MANAGEMENT OF THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. OKAY? ALREADY ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING FURTHER . NOTHING PUT IT. THIS IS SECOND READING COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? YOU'VE ALWAYS SEVE. THE AMENDED RECORD BY THE PURE RED LINE ITEMS AND CLEANUPS. UM ACTUALLY , I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, I READ THROUGH IT. MHM. VERY MINOR CHANGES. CORRECT YEAH, I WAS SHOCKED TO SEE SOME OF OUR OWN ADDRESSES ON THERE, BUT GREAT JOB SERIOUSLY. YEAH BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE NOTICED ANYTHING, EVERYBODY, I READ THEM ALL, HMM. OKAY? SO ANYWAY. MANY QUESTIONS FROM CITIZENS. THIS ONE WILL OTHERWISE GO BACK TO SURGERY. DING. OKAY SO HERE IN NON CITIZEN SO BACK TO 30 EATING TITLE ONLY ON AUGUST 14 ORDINANCE F SECOND READING[Ord. F]
PUBLIC HEARING TO AMEND CHAPTER 13 13 FLOOD DAMAGE PREVENTION OF THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. OKAY, ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING FURTHER OKAY AND COUNCIL. AND MOST OF THIS WAS TO BRING IT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE OD AND ARE AS FAR AS THINGS THAT THEY FOUND THAT WE NEED TO JUST TO MIND. MINOR ADJUSTMENTS. SO UM, SECOND HEARING ANY CITIZEN'S REQUEST COMMENTS. HEARING NONE OF THIS WILL BE BACK WITH 30 EATING TITLE ONLY ON AUGUST 14TH, OKAY , THAT CONCLUDES THE BUSINESS FOR THE EVENING. UM, THERE IS A REQUEST LATER ON TO POTENTIALLY[COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL PERSONS AND GENERAL DISCUSSION]
GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER IN THE RESPECT OF TIME, I THINK I'LL PASS THIS EVENING. OKAY ALRIGHT. WE STARTED LEFT. NOW WE START RIGHT, MR. MURRAY. YOU GOT TO GET FIRST. JEREMY. CROSSWALKS UPTOWN. YOU YOU MADE NOTE OF THOSE IN ADMINISTRATIVE COMMENTS EARLIER. WOULD YOU REPEAT A LITTLE BIT OF THAT AGAIN? WE'RE GONNA START THAT WORKING THE 1ST AND 2ND WEEK OF AUGUST, BUT OUR GUYS HAVE YOUR TARGET LOCATIONS . I THINK THEY'RE GONNA START A WALNUT OR UPON ONE OF THOSE TWO, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO HAMMER OUT THE ONES THAT ARE IN WORSE CONDITIONS, SEE HOW HOW IT RESPONDS TO THE WINTER TO START , THOUGH, RIGHT? THAT'S THE PLAN. YEAH THAT'S THE WORST TWO. MAYBE THREE, I THINK IS THE POINT THAT I THINK THEY HAVE A NEW TECHNIQUE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BRICKS DON'T SETTLE, SO THEY TALKED OTHER ENOUGH TO THE PEOPLE DOING THE PART OF THE BRICK LAYERS ON THE FOR THE POCKET PARK THERE AT THE OLD CLERK STATION AND GOT A COUPLE IDEAS, SO WE'LL SEE. WE'LL SEE HOW IT WORKS. WHEN WE WERE REPLACING. IT WAS PER THE ORIGINAL PLANS AND SPECS, BUT THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT IDEA. MERCY WE'LL SEE HOW IT WORKS. HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY IT WORKS OUT WELL BECAUSE OTHERWISE, IF WE DO ANOTHER OPTION THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, IT WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT 80,000 OR SO PER PERFORM, SO WE'LL SEE HOW THAT HOW THAT TURNS OUT. THE MATERIAL IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY USED AT THE NEW ALLEY. UH THE BRICKS ARE. IT'S JUST REALLY THE , UH YOU KNOW THE BY TWO MINUTES LAYER THAT THEY PUT IN THERE, SO I THINK WHATEVER WE'VE BEEN[02:20:04]
PUTTING IN WHICH IS PER THE SPECS, ORIGINAL SPECS, I THINK IT COMPRESSES A LITTLE BIT MORE AND MUST A COMPRESSED AND NOT REALLY BOUNCED BACK AS MUCH SO THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A THIN LAYER OF ASPHALT IN THERE SEEMED TO BE THE BIG THE BIG CHANGE FOR YES. AND OTHERWISE JUST ENJOY THE FAIR. UM. I APOLOGIZE TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE RIGHT NOW, LIKE LIKE I BROUGHT THIS ON YOU SO ENJOY THE FAIR. STAY DRY. WONDERFUL. MRS GILLARD'S NO FURTHER COMMENTS.MR BERGER, I'LL HAVE TO SAY IS TO PIGGYBACK ALAN'S COMMENTS. YOU KNOW, I HOPE EVERYBODY DOES ENJOY THE FAIR THIS WEEK, BUT THEN ALSO, I AM EXCITED ABOUT THE CROSSWALKS. JUST DON'T LET ME LOSE THE CHARACTER OF THE UPTOWN THAT'S ALL I ASK. AND UM, BUT ANYWAY, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I REALLY HAVE NO OTHER COMMENTS. SO THANKS, MR NASH COMMENTS TONIGHT. OKAY MR BIG'S NOTHING.
NO COMMENTS ON THAT. OKAY UM, AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT. MR EMERY SAID IN REGARDS TO THE WORK THAT I'M ENGINEERING AND THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT DEBT FOR SECURING THE $1.5 MILLION WORTH. IT'S GOING IN AT THE PLACE WHERE IT WAS ALMOST SLATED FOR THE NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS. SO THIS HELPS EXPEDITE THIS QUITE A BIT FASTER. LAST WEEK, AS YOU KNOW, THE HAVE A DIFFERENT FORM OF INTERVIEWING COMMISSIONS. WE HAD SIX APPLICANTS FOR THE PARK AND REC OR VERY QUALIFIED. AND AS YOU REMEMBER, UM, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, IT WAS ALWAYS DIFFICULT TO TRY TO FIND SOMEBODY HAD TO TWIST SOMEBODY'S SIGNED. THIS TIME WE HAD SIX EXTREMELY WELL QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS. WE HAD STAFF TO STAFF MEMBERS TO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND IN MYSELF AND OUT OF THERE, IT WAS DIFFICULT TO PAINT THE RIGHT PERSON BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHAT WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT IS IN SEPTEMBER. UM MCKENZIE WAS GOING TO CALL THE EXISTING MEMBERS AND ASK IF THEY WANTED TO STAY ON IF THE TERM WAS SELF , AND THEN NOW WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THOSE PEOPLE AND SAY, HEY, YOU WANT TO BE IN THE WAITING ROOM UNTIL GENERALLY , AND THEN WE CAN. UM IT IS A VERY EASY PROCESS. IN ADDITION TO THAT CURRENTLY BE ASSURED, ONE BIG MEMBER AND AGAIN I ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS FOR THAT ONE. SO UM, THAT ONE. I DO KNOW THAT ERIC AS SENT OUT AN EMAIL AND WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR HOST FAMILIES FOR THE JAPANESE ALLEGATION THAT'S COMING SOMETIME IN SEPTEMBER, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME IN EARLY TOMORROW MORNING, EIGHT AM WILL MEET OVER AT LIENS AND WE'LL HAVE THE OVER PEOPLE DOING A PRESENTATION AS TO WHAT IS NEEDED AND WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN GET MORE SERVICES THROUGH HUBER. THIS WILL BE BUSINESSES AND INDIVIDUALS ARE INVITED TO COME TO THAT ONE. AND THEN TOMORROW AT 10 30. WE HAVE BEEN CUTTING SO OVER THE SHEETS, UH, NEW STATION AS WELL. SO THERE'S
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MY REPORT FOR TONIGHT. AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF PROPERTY. OKAY LOCAL POLICE SECOND YOU NEED TO HAVE A SECOND. OKAY DIDN'T DONALD SECOND, IT. MAYBE MAKE ME MY RIGHT IS CLOSER THAN MY LEFT EAR, SO WE'LL TAKE A LITTLE COMPANIES. YES YES, SEYMOUR. MRS GROAT? YES, MR BERGER. MISTER BURPEE? YES UH