Sep 05, 2023 Planning Commission

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BOOT, VIDEO AND AUDIO GOOD. OKAY GOOD A GOOD EVENING. IT IS TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 5TH AT 6:30

[CALL MEETING TO ORDER]

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[SWEARING OF CITIZENS & APPLICANTS]

ALRIGHT AT THIS POINT. WE ARE AT CITIZEN COMMENTS. SO IF THERE ARE ANY CITIZENS PRESENT, WISHING TO SPEAK ON A NON AGENDA ITEM, THIS WILL BE YOUR OPPORTUNITY YOU HAVE UP TO FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK. SO YOU NONE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE REPORT OF THE ADMINISTRATION. HMM. YES, SIR. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT NUMBER TWO THERE. THAT'S POSSIBLE. AH, UM. I GUESS, SINCE IT'S NO LONGER ON THE AGENDA ITEM WAS REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA THAT APPLICANT REMOVED THAT REQUEST. UM SO THAT IS NO LONGER BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WE WILL NOT BE REVIEWING IT TONIGHT. IF YOU STILL WISH TO COMMENT ON IT. I GUESS IT'S NO LONGER ON THE AGENDA, SO THIS WOULD BE THE TIME. IT'S NOT. IT IS NOT A FOR VOTE OR REVIEW THIS EVENING REQUEST IS NO LONGER HAPPENING. THAT APPLICATION WAS WITHDRAWN. OKAY? AS IT COMES UP AGAIN. I'LL GET ANOTHER CORRECT , CORRECT. YEAH, YOU'RE FINE. DON'T WORRY. I'M FINE. EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. SAME TO YOU. RIGHT? REPORTEDLY ADMINISTRATION. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY UPDATES THIS EVENING. OKAY.

[1. To hear a Conditional Use Application for a retail, sales and service use located at 332 W. 5th St. (Parcel Number: 2900070590000).]

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NERVOUS? YES. YES. MR HUNTER? YES. MR ANGLE? YES. MR FISHER? YES. THAT'S RIGHT. YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. DO YOU WORK WITH CITY AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AGAIN? ALRIGHT? UH IF ANYONE IN THE ROOM HAD SEEN THE AGENDA EARLIER , THERE WAS A SECOND OR NUMBER TWO AGENDA ITEM, UM, WAS WITHDRAWN. SO THAT WAS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE FOR USED CAR SALES. UM SO, SO WE'RE NOT REVIEWING THAT THIS EVENING? UH, THE THIRD AND LAST ITEM ON THE

[3. To hear an application for a Planned Unit Development (PUD) Sketch Plan application for a development known as Marysville East Section 1 located at Parcels with ID numbers of 2800170320000, 2800170450010, 2800230571000, 2800210020000, 2800170450020.]

TO 80017045. TO 800 TO 30571000 . 2800 TO 1002000 AND. 280017045 . TO BELIEVE I GOT THOSE ALL CORRECT. UM I SAY WE HAVE APPLICANTS THE PODIUM, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. GIVE YOUR ADDRESS AND THE FLOOR IS YOURS. LET ME HAVE ONE SECOND HERE, SO I CAN THIS IS, UH, YEAH, I WILL HERE IN JUST A SECOND HERE. I'M JUST BRINGING UP THE FILES. OKAY AND I HAVE TO MOVE THIS THING.

TO THE OTHER SCREEN. ARE YOU READY? OKAY? MCDONALD GEE, OKAY? I'M READY, MR CHAIRMAN. OKAY NAME ADDRESS AND SO BARBARIC 5979 DUBLIN ROAD. I'M HERE REPRESENTING ROCKFORD DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENTS IN THE PARTNERSHIP. UM THIS IS THE FIRST OF A FEW DIFFERENT ANNEXATIONS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING . WE WENT TO CITY COUNCIL ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND DID PRE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT. UM, TALKING ABOUT THREE INDIVIDUALS.

UM AREAS OF MARYSVILLE ON THE EAST SIDE THAT WE INTEND TO BRING THROUGH OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. UM IT'S A MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY THAT ULTIMATELY PIECES TOGETHER THROUGH THE ANNEXATION. WE'VE WORKED WITH CITY COUNCIL. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER FOLKS, INCLUDING JEREMY WHITE ENGINEERING'S OFFICE ON TRYING TO BRING THIS TOGETHER AT A HIGH LEVEL. IT IS INNOVATION, PART NUMBER TWO. SO I'M ON THE C I C BOARD AND IN MARYSVILLE, WE'RE DOWN TO A COUPLE 100 ACRES AND INNOVATION PARK ONE. THIS EAST AREA HAS BEEN IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND SOME OTHER CITY DOCUMENTS AS

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WHITE BOX. THERE IS LOWS. YOU'VE GOT 36 THAT RUNS TO THE TOP OF THE PROPERTY WHERE RIVERS PARCELS. IT'S ACTUALLY A COMBINATION OF FOUR PARCELS. QUESTION ABOUT WHERE THE SITE IS. UH WELL, JUST BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED 36 ALONG THE NORTH, BUT 36 IS ACTUALLY THERE IS A GAP CORRECT. THERE IS A RAILROAD TRACK. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. PROPERTY WHICH IS THE SQUARE PIECE THAT IS ON THE NORTHERN PART OF THE PAGE. UM SO YOU'VE GOT THE APARTMENTS AND CONDOS THAT EXIST THERE. UM A LONG 33. SO THE WALKING GLENN'S CONDOS IN THE APARTMENT PROJECT AND THIS PARCEL PICKS UP FROM THE SOUTH OF THAT AND THEN RUNS ALL THE WAY DOWN 33 TO A LITTLE ROAD CON WILL OR WILDWOOD LANE. UM AND THAT IS THE EASTERN BORDER OF THIS. UM IN THE NORTHERN BORDER IS WHAT'S COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE COTTON RAILROAD TRAIL. SO THE COTTON FAMILY OWNS THE OLD ABANDONED RAILROAD. THAT IS THAT ENTIRE TREE LINE THAT COMES ACROSS THE NORTH OF THIS PARCEL. SO THIS PARCEL REPRESENTS WHOOPS. THE NUMBERS, RIGHT? ALWAYS HAVE A LITTLE HAND. UM SO THE ANNEXATION IS ACTUALLY 351 ACRES . WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE FROM A ZONING STANDPOINT, WHEN YOU ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, MARYSVILLE, YOU HAVE TO BRING IT IN UNDER A ZONING, SO THE ACTUAL ZONING THAT YOU'RE SEEING THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED IN FRONT OF YOU.

TONIGHT IS FOR 336 ACRES. NOW, THAT IS THIS PARCEL IN ORDER TO GET TO THE TOUCH POINTS OF MARYSVILLE, THE CORPORATE LINE. WE HAVE TO GO TO THE OTHER SIDE OF 33. SO THE 33 IS ACTUALLY PART OF THIS ANNEXATION THAT IS COMING IN BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE CORPORATE LINE, SO IT'S 351 ACRES ON THE ANNEXATION IS COMING THROUGH, BUT IT'S 336 AND THE MAJORITY OF THAT DIFFERENCE IS THAT RIGHT AWAY. UM SO THERE ARE. FIVE SUB AREAS ON THIS SO THIS IS OUR SUB AREA PLAN. I WILL GO THROUGH THIS IN DETAIL IN A MINUTE. FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT, IT'S ALWAYS A BIG ISSUE WITH EVERYBODY. THERE IS A REGIONAL PUMP STATION. YOU SEE SUB AREA E, WHICH IS THE GREEN LITTLE BOX UP IN THE, UH, ON WATKINS ROAD JUST SOUTH OF WATKINS ROAD. THAT IS A REGIONAL LIFT STATION. THE CITY MARYSVILLE IS BUILDING RIGHT NOW. IT WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS YEAR. UM THEY'VE INVESTED $15 MILLION IN IT, AND THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THAT LIFT STATION IS TO OPEN UP SEWER AND WATER. WATER IS ALREADY ON WATKINS ROAD, BUT SEWER FOR THIS ENTIRE AREA ON THE EAST SIDE OF MARYSVILLE. UM THIS PARCEL HERE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAS TWO ACCESS POINTS. YOU CAN GO TO THE NORTH AND YOU HIT 36 AND 33. AND YOU CAN GO TO THE SOUTH SCOTTS LAWN. SCOTT SALON INTERCHANGES REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AS I'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT. SO WE HAVE FIVE SUB AREAS HERE, SO I'M GOING TO START HERE WITH A THEY'RE KIND OF YOU'RE KIND OF SCATTERED AROUND WHEN YOU GO A B C D BUT WE HAVE A MULTI FAMILY SITE HERE. 36 ACRES. UM WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR 509 UNITS.

THAT'S ABOUT 14 UNITS AN ACRE. WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO PRODUCTS. I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH THOSE PRODUCTS HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. WE'VE GOT 56 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS ON 14 ACRES. THAT'S FOUR ACRES OR FOUR UNITS PER ACRE. THAT IS THE AREA CALLED SEE UP THERE TO THE TOP. THAT'S REALLY A ZONING FOR FUTURE AS I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THERE'S AN INNOVATION DISTRICT HERE, WHICH IS THE SUB AREA B, WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF THIS SITE. SO 251 ACRES IS ACTUALLY THE PURPLE AREA, WHICH IS SUB AREA B, WHICH IS THE INNOVATION DISTRICT. THIS WILL BE LIGHT MANUFACTURING. LIGHT WAREHOUSE AND INNOVATION AND I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH THE USES HERE IN A LITTLE BIT ON THAT, BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, BEING IN THE CENTER HERE, THE SUB AREA C REALLY IS A ZONING FOR THE FUTURE. UM WE HAVE OTHER PIECES OF GROUND THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT WILL CONNECT TO THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. SO WE ARE ZONING THAT, UM NOW. BUT I WOULDN'T EXPECT THAT TO BE BUILT

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OUR DESIGNS AS YOU'LL SEE WILL MEET ALL THE DESIGN AND THE BONUS CRITERIA. UM BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO 16 BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE TWO STORY TOWN HOMES. WE UTILIZE THE PROPERTY AND IN A WAY THAT I'LL SHOW YOU HERE IN A LITTLE BIT THAT DOESN'T GET TO THE 16. WE WILL QUALIFY FOR THE 16. BUT WE FEEL 14 IS ROUGHLY WHERE WE NEED TO BE. AND YOU CAN YOU'LL SEE HERE IN A MINUTE WITH THE DESIGN THAT IT FILLS OUT THE PROPERTY VERY NICELY. UM AS WELL BECAUSE THIS IS A P U D YOUR CODE REQUIRES ON THAT MULTI FAMILY PIECE THAT WE HAVE A 10% COMMON AREA. UM WE ARE PUTTING ATTRIBUTES AROUND THE PONDS WERE PUTTING FOUNTAINS IN THEM WERE PUTTING BENCHES AND WE DO HAVE ENOUGH COMMON AREA THAT WE'RE THIS COMMON AREA FOR SUB AREA. A BY ITSELF WILL BE 30. SO IT IS THREE TIMES YOUR CODE. WHEN I ADD IN THE ADDITIONAL COMMON AREA THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BRING TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS A VERY INDIE, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO GET AROUND 46% ON THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS IN A COMMON AREA. UM ON THAT. SUDBURY BE INDUSTRIAL I MENTIONED BEFORE TO 51 TO BE EXPANDED 3.1 MILLION SQUARE FOOT IN THE MAJORITY OF THE USES THAT GO IN HERE. I CAN GO THROUGH THEM IN DETAIL. WE'RE PULLING MOST OF THEM FROM YOUR CODE. WE ARE USING THE ME WHICH IS YOUR MANUFACTURING AND INNOVATION DISTRICT AND WE'RE USING YOUR L M D, WHICH IS YOUR LIGHT MANUFACTURING DISTRICT AS USES. UM I'LL GO THROUGH THIS IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE ACTUALLY

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WE HAVE A POOL OF FITNESS. THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO DOG PARKS HERE. YOU CAN SEE THE FOUNTAINS AND PONDS THAT ARE SERVING BOTH THE DETENTION AND A BEAUTIFICATION STANDPOINT, WE'VE GOT MULTI PURPOSE TRAILS AROUND BOTH OF THE PONDS. WE ALSO CONNECT BACK OUT THE WATKINS ROAD. I KNOW YOUR CODE LIKES IT TO GO ALONG WALKING'S ROAD. UM NOT SURE, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO RUN A TRAIL INTO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. BUT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS WANT TO DO, WE'LL DO THAT.

BUT WE ARE PLANNING A TRAIL SYSTEM THAT GETS FURTHER TO THE NORTH THAT ULTIMATELY GETS TO THAT RAILROAD TRACK LINE THAT WOULD GET TO THE MIDDLE CREEK FLOOD AREA. UM IT'S YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK FLOODED AREAS USELESS, BUT IT DOESN'T FLOOD EVERY DAY. SO MULTIPURPOSE TRAILS TREES. THOSE SORT OF THINGS ARE WONDERFUL WHEN YOU WALK AROUND IN MILLCREEK IS BEAUTIFUL CREEK. SO WE'VE GOT THAT GOING THROUGH WHEN YOU COME IN THE ENTRANCE. THERE'S TWO ENTRANCES TO THE NORTH. THE CLUBHOUSE IS SITTING AND I KNOW MY POINTER DOES NOT SHOW HERE.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THE CLUBHOUSE IN THE POOL. ESSENTIALLY THAT WILL SERVE AS BOTH. SO WHETHER YOU LIVE IN A TOWN HOUSE OR YOU LIVE IN AN APARTMENT. THIS IS ONE COMMUNITY HERE. SO YOU COME THROUGH BEHIND THE CLUBHOUSES. WE'VE GOT OUR FIRST SERIES OF TWO DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE MULTI FAMILY WHERE YOU HAVE THE THREE STORY WALK UPS. YOU HAVE THE TOWN HOMES ON BOTH SIDES OF IT. INTEGRATED AROUND THE POND. AND AS YOU COME DOWN CLOSER TO 33, THE THREE STORY BUILDINGS SERVE AS A BUFFER TO ROUTE 33 SOME OF THE NOISE AND THAT SORT OF STUFF, BUT THE ADDITIONAL THREE STORY WALK UPS ARE LOCATED TO THE SOUTH ALONG THE ROUTE AROUND 33 AS I MENTIONED AND THEN THE TOWN HOMES, THERE'S A COMBINATION OF FOUR UNITS AND SIX UNIT TOWN HOME.

CONFIGURATIONS. AND THE TOWN HOMES IS REALLY CONSIDERED THE MISSING MIDDLE MARKET DUPLEXES.

TRIPLEX IS TOWN HOMES. THAT'S A PRODUCT THAT'S REALLY, UM IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET IN A LOT OF MARKETS FROM HIS OWNING STANDPOINT. UM BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT, UM, SO AS OPPOSED TO A THREE STORY WALK UP WHERE YOU'VE JUST GOT FLATS. THE FLATS. THE THREE STORY WALK UPS WILL HAVE ONE AND TWO BEDROOM. OUR TARGET MARKET IS THE MILLENNIALS AND GEN Z'S. IT'S YOUR WORKERS IN YOUR YOUR INDUSTRIAL AREAS. IT'S YOUR WORKERS THROUGHOUT MARYSVILLE.

UM BUT THEY'RE ONE AND TWO BEDROOM ONLY. SO WE DON'T EXPECT A LOT OF KIDS FROM THAT. YOU JUST DON'T SEE THAT IN THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS WHEN YOU HAVE WALK UPS, AND WHEN YOU HAVE ONLY TWO BEDROOMS UNDOUBTEDLY ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING THERE. IF THERE WAS A COUPLE LIVING THERE, ONE OF THEM WILL WORK FROM HOME AT SOME PORTION, AND THAT'S WHAT THE KITCHEN TABLE USUALLY WORKS FOR A WHILE. BUT IF YOU'RE THERE SIGNIFICANTLY, YOU GO TO THE SECOND BEDROOM, AND THAT BECOMES AN OFFICE FOR THE COUPLE THAT'S LIVING THERE. UM THE TOWN HOMES . THOSE WILL BE TWO STORIES. THEY WILL BE TWO AND THREE BEDROOMS. NO. FOUR BEDROOMS, BUT THEY WILL BE TWO AND THREE BEDROOMS. SO THE THREE BEDROOMS WE DO FEEL THERE WILL BE SOME KIDS THERE. UM THAT WILL WILL ESSENTIALLY OCCUPY SOME OF THOSE, UM THE DISTRIBUTION IS.

GOING TO WORK HERE REAL QUICK. I GOT THE DISTRIBUTION. ANOTHER PAGE. UM I'LL COME BACK TO THAT QUESTION. UM BUT ANY WHICH WAY THE ARCHITECTURAL SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES HERE AT THE END, THE AMENITIES WILL BE HIGH END. YOU DON'T DO THESE TYPE OF COMMUNITIES WITHOUT HIGH END AMENITIES. THEY EXPECT THE POOL TO BE A CERTAIN WAY THEY EXPECT THE FITNESS AREA TO BE SIGNIFICANT. THE COFFEE BARS AND THE STUFF THAT ALL GOES TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER. THAT IS THE MIDDLE OF THIS PROJECT, AND YOU CAN GO TO MARYSVILLE FLATS. YOU CAN GO TO SOME OF THE OTHER COOKS POINTS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS AND WALK IN AND YOU CAN SEE THE TYPES OF AMENITIES THAT A CLASS A TYPE OF A PROJECT WILL BRING. UM THESE WERE ALL IN. I'M GONNA SKIP THESE BECAUSE I KNOW

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IS THAT JUST BEING UM, ALLOTTED . FOR SINGLE FAMILY, AND THEN WE'LL BE EXTENDED LATER BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET IN AND OUT OF IT. THAT'S EXACTLY WHY IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG TIME. SO THERE'S ACTUALLY UM SOME OF THE GROUNDS IN THE FUTURE. IT WILL CONNECT SOMETHING THAT'S CONNECTED TO 36 BOXES. UH WHERE THE WHITE BOXES UP THERE THE SUB AREA. C UM THOSE FIELDS CONTINUE INTO THE GROUND TO THE EAST, AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THAT FAMILY ON THE GROUND TO THE EAST. SO WE THINK ULTIMATELY THAT SUB AREA WILL CONNECT THERE. THERE IS NOT A CHANCE TO GO ACROSS THE RIVER TRACK. THERE'S A CREEK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE RIVER. TRACKING THE SIGNAL ACROSS FROM HER TRACKS IS THERE WILL BE A SECOND ACCESS POINT THAT ULTIMATELY COMES THROUGH SUB AREA B BUT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE TYPES OF INDUSTRIAL THAT'S GOING TO BE HERE THE SIZE OF THE BUILDINGS OR THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS THAT WILL BE CARVED OUT IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. WE DON'T KNOW THAT ROADWAY, THE INTERIOR ROADWAY. UM FROM THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH MARYSVILLE ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE ROADWAY. WE'RE DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY AND WE'RE GOING ONE STEP FARTHER, BECAUSE THIS IS OPENING UP A BIGGER AREA. WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING A THOROUGH WHIP WORKING WITH KYLE AND JEREMY ON A THOROUGHFARE PLAN. THEY HAVEN'T UPDATED THEIR THOROUGHFARE PLAN FOR A WHILE, SO THEY ARE DETERMINING WHAT UNLOADED ROADS. THEY WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS AREA ON THE EAST SIDE AND HOW THEY WANTED TO FUNCTION OVER THE NEXT 10 TO 20 YEARS, AND WE'RE SUPPORTING THEM IN THAT VENTURE.

AND THEN WE'RE DOING THE TRADITIONAL TRAFFIC STUDY, BUT THE INTERIOR ROADS HERE WON'T BE DEFINED FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. SO BUT YOU ARE CORRECT. AT SOME POINT. I'VE GOT TO DO TWO THINGS ONE. THE UTILITIES ARE ON WALKING ROADS, SO I'M NOT GOING TO RUN THEM. RIGHT DOWN THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF SUB AREA BE NOT KNOWING WHERE THE INTERNAL ROADS ARE. AND TO COME AROUND THE OTHER WAY. WE'RE JUST NOT IN A SITUATION TO DO THAT YET. YOU MENTIONED SPEAKING CITY KYLE TALKING ABOUT UTILITIES. I HEARD YOU. YOU'VE SPOKEN WITH SCHOOL DISTRICT. CAN YOU JUST SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? YES, I CAN. UM SO AND THE ONE STEP FURTHER HERE, UM, ONLY BECAUSE OF A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY HERE. SOME VARIOUS C WILL BE FOR SALE. YES I'M JUST GONNA THROW THAT OUT THERE. SO YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE TO ASK, UM NOT THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO ASK, BUT I'M THROWING IT OUT THERE, SO WE'RE GETTING BACK INTO WHAT WE DO FOR A LIVING. UM ROCKFORD HOMES, BUILD HOUSES. WE WILL NOT ONLY BE ROCKFORD HOMES, BUT THERE WILL BE A NUMBER OF OTHER BUILDERS THAT COME WITH US INTO THIS PROJECT AS WE DO IT AS WELL AS AN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPER.

ROCKFORD IS GOING TO BUILD, UM THE APARTMENTS AND THE TOWN HOMES HE ACTUALLY IS DESIGNING FROM SCRATCH THE TOWN HOMES TO GO ON THIS PROJECT. UM AND HE OWNS THOSE AND HE WILL ON THOSE, AND HE HOLDS THOSE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. HE HAS A SIGNIFICANT PORTFOLIO THAT, UH, THAT AVAILABLE FOR FOLKS TO SEE . UM BUT FROM THIS THE INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT, WATERS ON WATKINS ROAD, THE SHUAR, YOU'VE GOT UNLIMITED CAPACITY ON THE LIFT STATION.

ONCE I COMPLETED THIS YEAR, ROADWAYS WERE WORKING WITH THAT WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S MAJOR THOROUGHFARES THAT NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS. THE WHOLE POINT HERE IS TO GET THOSE THOROUGHFARES THROW THE SO THE INNOVATION DISTRICT IN THE INDUSTRIAL CAN GO TO SCOTTS LAWN , JUST LIKE INNOVATION PARK ONE DRAINS TO THE SOUTH. IT DOES NOT COME UP INTO THE CITY WHEN THOSE TRUCKS IN THAT TRAFFIC IS THERE . THAT'S THE VALUE OF SCOTTS LAWN IS THAT IT IS AN UNTAPPED JIM. IT'S AN INTERCHANGE THAT ESSENTIALLY NOBODY REALLY USES ON THE ON THE EAST SIDE OF IT.

SO THE MAJORITY OF THE INDUSTRIAL GO THAT WAY, SO WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE BECAUSE WE CANNOT USE WALK INS ROAD TO GO FROM THIS POINT THROUGH A COMMUNITY IN THE TOWNSHIP AND THEN DOWN TO THAT INTERSECTION, SO THAT'S THE VALUE OF THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND UNDERSTANDING THE TRAFFIC PLAN. SO WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE PIECES FROM THE SCHOOL STANDPOINT. PRE ANNEXATION. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FINANCIAL MECHANISMS THAT WE ARE BRINGING TO MARYSVILLE THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE. YOU'RE GONNA HEAR TIFFS ON THE INDUSTRIAL. YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR CR CR A. WE'RE WORKING WITH ERIC PHILLIPS IN THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO DOCUMENT THOSE WE'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. PRE ANNEXATION GOES THROUGH THOSE ITEMS, BUT THE BIGGER PIECE HERE IS A COMMUNITY AUTHORITY. SO THIS WILL BE THE FIRST COMMUNITY AUTHORITY IN MARYSVILLE. IT IS A TOOL THAT I USED THAT JEROME VILLAGE OR NATIONWIDE AS I MANAGE THAT FACILITY USER JEROME VILLAGE, AND I WOULD PROBABLY SAY IT WAS ONE OF THE THREE MAJOR ITEMS AS TO WHY JEROME VILLAGE HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL. ONE IS NATIONWIDE. FUNNY TOO, IS THE DUBLIN CITY SCHOOLS AND THREE IS THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY. THAT COMMUNITY AUTHORITY DOWN THERE FUNDED $120 MILLION IN PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. AND ESSENTIALLY , IT IS THE ANSWER THAT YOU AND CITY COUNCIL HAVE FOR RESIDENTS TO SAY WE DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR GROWTH INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THE REASON IT IS THERE'S A MILLAGE

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THAT THAT YOU NEED TO WORK THROUGH. THE CITY HAS AGREED TO WORK WITH US, AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT DONE IN ANY MEANS. BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY AND PART OF THAT IS THE SCHOOLS PROJECT LIKE THIS. LIKE I JUST MENTIONED YOUR OWN VILLAGE IS NOT SUCCESSFUL. WITHOUT THE SCHOOLS AND YOUR OWN VILLAGE. WE HAD THE DUBLIN SCHOOLS THEY ARE NOW VENTURING IN I PUT IN CONTRACT AND DEVELOPMENT. THE FIRST COUPLE PODS IN THE FAIRBANKS LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT AND WAS WORKING WITH THEM. BEFORE I LEFT NATIONWIDE UP HERE. I MET WITH THE SCHOOL'S PROBABLY THREE TIMES ON THIS PROJECT TWO TIMES HERE IN IN RECENT, UM AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE FUNDS NEEDED TO OPERATE THEIR SCHOOLS. I MEAN PROJECTS OF THIS SIZE DO NOT ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL AFTER SCHOOLS AREN'T ON BOARD. UM AND YOU KNOW, I THINK MOST PEOPLE IN MARYSVILLE REALIZE HOW MUCH THE GYM SCHOOL DISTRICT IS. THE SCORES HAVE BEEN CONTINUING UP, BUT IT IS ALSO ONE OF THE ONES THAT STACKS THE LEAST I LIVE IN THE BUCKET VALLEY SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND WE GOT THIS NICE LITTLE MAGAZINE FROM THEM, AND IT HAD A LITTLE CHART IN THERE, AND THIS WAS PROBABLY A MONTH AGO ACTUALLY GAVE THE DOCUMENT TO DIANE AT THE SCHOOLS. IT HAD A CHART IN THERE, AND IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT IT HAD BUCKEYE VALLEY AS TO THE AMOUNT OF TAXES THAT WERE BEING CAPTURED PER KID FROM THE RESIDENTS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THEY WERE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, AND THEY WERE VERY PROUD OF BEING IN THE MIDDLE. DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM OF IT, MEANING THE HIGHEST WAS ALL IN TANGIER, DUBLIN AND WORTHINGTON AND THE ONE THAT WAS THE CHEAPEST WAS THE MARYSVILLE CITY SCHOOLS. SO THE RESIDENTS IN MARYSVILLE ARE PAYING THE LEAST PER STUDENT FROM ITS COMPARABLE PIECES. AND I PROVIDED THAT TO THIS SCHOOL'S JUST SO THEY COULD SEE THAT CHART AND HERE'S BUCK, A VALLEY HAPPY ABOUT BEING IN THE MIDDLE SO UM IT'S A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE TO MAKE SURE THAT SCHOOLS ARE SUCCESSFUL IN THE FUTURE, AND WE PLAN TO DO OUR FAIR SHARE OF THAT, UM, THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY, THE FINANCING AND THE MONEY. THAT WILL BE, UM CAPTURED OFF OF THAT ENTITY. IT WILL START WITH SERVICES SO IT WILL HELP WITH POLICE. IT WILL HELP WITH FIRE. IT WILL HELP WITH SCHOOL AND THEN IT WILL HELP WITH PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE ABOVE IN THAT IT WILL ALSO, UM, CONTROL THESE PARK AREAS THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE AND THE AREAS THAT ARE SENSITIVE. SO YOU TAKE THEM OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE DEVELOPER, AND YOU PUT THEM IN THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY. AND YOU FIND WAYS TO EXTEND TRAILS YOU FIND WAYS TO POSSIBLY EVEN BY FUTURE AREAS THAT YOU WANT TO PROTECT AND YOU WANT TO DO WHETHER THAT'S FROM A DEVELOPER STRAIGHT FROM THE LANDLORD OR LANDOWNER. UM IT IS A GREAT MECHANISM AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE THREE ITEMS AS THE WHITE DRONE VILLAGE HAS BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL CITIES ARE, UM NEW ALBANY WAS BUILT THAT WAY. UM IN THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR DIFFERENT COMMUNITY AUTHORITIES AROUND CENTRAL OHIO THAT'S BEEN USED. IT USED TO BE.

YOU HAD TO PUT 1000 ACRES TOGETHER TO BE ABLE TO USE ONE AND ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO THAT WAS ELIMINATING. THE REASON YOU DON'T SEE THEM PREVAIL, AND A LOT OF OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IS SAY, I GOT 100 ACRES OF THIS THIS 350 ACRES AND I PUT A COMMUNITY AUTHORITY ON IT AND PUT FOUR OR FIVE MILLS ON TOP OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE BUSINESSES. WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE IF I COULDN'T PROTECT THAT, IN THE NEXT 100 ACRES GOT IN THE HANDS OF ANOTHER DEVELOPER THAT DECIDED NOT TO DO THAT THEY HAVE A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE OVER THE SITUATION. SO WHEN YOU HAVE A LAWYER, LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT , YOU CAN USE THIS FINANCIAL MECHANISM. UM AND IT'S NEW. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH CITY COUNCIL EXPLAINING TO HIM. BRAD LUTZ HAS BEEN IN SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD TO TALK THEM THROUGH THE FINANCIAL MECHANISMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN PLACE HERE. UM AND THE VALUE OF THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT CAN COME OFF OF A PROJECT LIKE THIS. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING OF AN INDUSTRIAL PARK THAT COULD BE 500, PLUS ACRES. IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL, IT'S FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT. I MEAN, ONE DATA CENTER COULD BE 500. HALF A BILLION DOLLARS. I MEAN, I CAN SHOW YOU THREE OF THEM IN CENTRAL OHIO, ONE OF THEM UNION COUNTY THAT'S BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW. THOSE ARE VALUE IN THAT.

HELPS THE SCHOOLS IMMENSELY HELPS. THE THINGS THAT GET REVENUE TAXES DOESN'T NECESSARILY HELP THE CITY SERVICES BECAUSE IT DOESN'T BRING A LOT OF EMPLOYMENT, BUT THAT'S THE BALANCE WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THE INNOVATION PARK IS BALANCED THE REAL ESTATE VALUES WITH THE JOBS AND I THINK THEY'LL BOTH BE THERE IN THE END, UH, OPENING UP TO OTHER BOARD MEMBERS. UM MR CHAIRMAN. MY QUESTION WOULD BE YOU TALK ABOUT INNOVATION, AND WE WERE LOOKING AT BEING A BOTH SIDES FOR INDUSTRIAL INNOVATION PARK OF WATKINS ROAD. HOW FAR DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT EXPANDING DOWN WORKINGS ROAD? LONG 33. I CAN TELL YOU. IT'LL EXPAND ABOUT 300 MORE ACRES TO THE SOUTH BECAUSE MY PARTNER IN THIS PROJECT OWNS THAT GROUND SO AND THAT IS ANNEXATION NUMBER TWO, SO THAT THE ANNEXATIONS, UM WERE THEY WERE IN THE PAPER. THE THREE

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YEAH, WE PLAN TO REACH OUT SO ANNEXATION ONE IS CONTINUOUS AND ITSELF. UM SO ANNEXATION TO WILL NOT BE CONTIGUOUS IN ITSELF. WE WILL CREATE ISLANDS AND PENINSULAS, AND WE WILL HAVE SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS EITHER THROUGH THIS PROCESS OR THROUGH THE NEXT OKAY? WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO ACQUIRE THAT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY? BECAUSE I I'M THINKING IS THAT RESIDENT I WOULD NOT WANT MY HOME RIGHT NEXT TO AN INDUSTRIAL PARK. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION NOW, CHAD. SO UM, IT WOULD END YOUR OWN VILLAGE WE WORKED WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS COULD JUST TELL YOU MY HISTORY, SO I DROVE VILLAGE. I WORKED WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WANTED TO SELL AND THE ONES THAT DIDN'T WE TRIED TO BUFFER AND DEAL WITH IT AS BEST WE CAN. UM SO IT'S YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T MAKE PEOPLE SELL. AT LEAST I CAN'T. UM BUT WE WILL SIT DOWN WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY AND GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. FROM ONE OF TWO REASONS EITHER TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY OR JUST TO DISCUSS AND TO UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT BUFFERS AND STUFF THEY MAY MAY DESIRE, ETCETERA. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. GO AHEAD. MR CHAIR. YOU HAD MENTIONED TRAFFIC FROM THE INDUSTRIAL PEACE GOING DOWN THROUGH SCOTTS LAWN. UM IN THE FUTURE PHASES. ARE YOU ANTICIPATING BYPASSING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? IT LOOKS LIKE TO THE EAST 100% OKAY, SO THE AND IT'S NOT ME. IT'S JEREMY KYLE. AS THEY WORK THROUGH THE THOROUGHFARE PLANE. YOU CAN'T HAVE SEMI TRUCKS GO THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEEN THERE A LONG TIME. SO I MEAN, IT'S GOT TO BE A SIGNIFICANT BYPASS, SO THE TRUCKS ARE NOT GOING THAT WAY AT THE BEGINNING BECAUSE WE ARE ZONING IN UTILITIES ARE STARTING HERE, THERE'S GONNA BE A NATURAL PROGRESSION. YOU MAY SEE SOME TRUCKS THAT COME PAST LOWS AND COME THAT WAY. BUT WE DON'T WANT TRUCKS TO GO THAT WAY, EITHER. UM AND WE DON'T WANT THE TRAFFIC TO GO TO 36. WHETHER IT'S JUST 50 PEOPLE THAT WORK AT ONE OF THE BUILDINGS, ETCETERA. WE WANT THE RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTS TO COME OFF OF 36. WE WANT THE TRUCKS TO COME OFF OF SCOTTS LAWN, AND THAT'S THE GYM OF THIS PARCEL AND ITS LOCATION. REAL ESTATE IS ALL ABOUT LOCATION. YOU'VE HEARD THAT IT'S A CLICHE, BUT IT'S TRUE. THE SCOTS LONG PIECES WHERE WE WANT ALL THE TRUCKS TO GO, UM, ULTIMATELY, BUT THEIR UTILITIES AREN'T THERE. SO THE UTILITIES AREN'T EXTENDING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE EDGE OF SCOTTS LAWN SO WE CAN DEVELOP THEIR INCOME FORWARD. THEY'RE GOING TO START AT THE GREEN LITTLE DOT THERE. AND MOVE FORWARD. THAT ROADWAY IS ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PIECES BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PREVENT THE TRUCKS FROM GOING THROUGH THAT COMMUNITY, AND WE WILL ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER BUFFERS AND STUFF THAT WILL WORK WITH THAT COMMUNITY. BUT THAT COMMUNITY REALLY COMES INTO PLAY WITH THE SECOND ANNEXATION, WHICH TAKES US TO THEIR, UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL WORK WITH . AND WE HAVE TALKED TO JEFF STOUT BECAUSE THAT IS TOWNSHIPS.

SO THE COUNTY CONTROLS A LOT OF THOSE ROADS, ROADS ACTUALLY CONTROL THE SEWER SYSTEM THERE AS WELL. UM AND WE'VE TALKED TO JEFF ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. MR CHERRY. YOU'VE BROUGHT UP THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN A COUPLE OF TIMES. UM SO I LOOK AT AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT SECTION YOU'RE REFERRING TO. IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO HOLISTICALLY WHEN I LOOK AT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. IT OUTLINES ALONG. 33 IS MANUFACTURING. ALONG I THINK WATKINS AS MAYBE RM, YOU REGIONAL MIXED USE AND THEN THAT'S OUR D. DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT? ACTUALLY ON BOTH SIDES, SO, YEAH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS A REMEMBER. IT'S A GUIDE HAS A LITTLE SLIVER OF INDUSTRIAL THAT COULD NEVER BE DEVELOPED. BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. YOU WERE PLANNING A TOWNSHIP GROUND, SO IT BECOMES A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO REALLY PUT PLANS ON GROUND THAT HASN'T COME INTO THE CITY. THEY DO IT ITS FUTURE GROWTH. BUT THERE IS A LITTLE SLIVER OF INDUSTRIAL THAT COMES DOWN ALL ALONG, 33. AND THEN THE REST OF IT ALL IN THERE IS YELLOW. UM AND IT IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THE RETAIL IS ALL ALONG 36 ON BOTH SIDES, AND IT HAS BEEN TO BE A RESIDENTIAL RETAIL. YOU'VE GOT

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YOU'VE GOT THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE JUST NORTH OF OUR SITE. YOU'VE GOT SOME CONDOS NORTH OF OUR SITE AS WELL. YOU'VE GOT BIG BOX. YOU'VE GOT RESTAURANTS. YOU'VE GOT A HOTEL ON A FEW. UM AND EVERYTHING. SO THAT CORE WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE TAKEN THE HIGHER DENSITY PIECES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THE APARTMENTS, THE MULTI FAMILY, THE TOWN HOMES , AND WE'RE TRYING TO BUFFER THAT CORE THAT IS ALREADY THERE. AND AS WE MOVE FURTHER IN TO THE SOUTH, WE MOVE INTO WHERE THE PURPLE IS. WE MOVE INTO THE INDUSTRIAL AND WE HAVE EXPANDED THAT YOU CAN SEE THE WHITE LINE THAT GOES THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE YELLOW. THAT'S WATKINS ROAD. UM SO WE HAVE EXPANDED THAT TO THE NORTH, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AND YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY THE NEED OF MARY'S. NO FROM THE STANDPOINT OF YOUR FIRST INDUSTRIAL PARK IS DOWN TO ITS LAST 200 ACRES. THAT CITY COUNCIL IS ABOUT THAT THIS IS A GOOD USE. OF EXPANDING THAT INDUSTRIAL PARK AND WATKINS ROADS, NOT A REAL GOOD BUFFER. UM, YOU WOULD HAVE INDUSTRIAL ON ONE SIDE AND SINGLE FAMILY ON THE OTHER SIDE. UM WE STARTED OFF WITH A PLAN BECAUSE WE ARE IN CONTROL OF THE BENNINGTON PARCEL, WHICH IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WALKING'S ROAD AND I DEVELOPED RESIDENTIAL, SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO DO, AND WE CAME TO A BETTER MOUSETRAP BY EXPANDING THE INDUSTRIAL AND USING THE NATURAL AMENITIES IF YOU CAN FLIP BACK ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY, DO YOU HAVE A I MIGHT HAVE HOLD ON HERE. JUST A SECOND HERE. I'VE GOT. I'VE GOT AN EXHIBIT THAT SHOWS THE LARGER AREA. OH, THERE YOU GO. PERFECT. SO YOU CAN SEE THE TREE LINE THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY BUFFERING RIGHT THERE. UM SO WE FELT THAT THE BENNINGTON PIECE, WHICH IS THAT PIECE THAT 116 118 ACRES RIGHT THERE COULD BE INDUSTRIAL AND WOULD BE CONTIGUOUS WITH THE GROUND ON THE OTHER SIDE, OUR TOWN HOMES IN OUR APARTMENTS, WHICH SERVE AS A BUFFER FROM THE EXISTING THE WATKINS GLEN COURT IN THE WALKING GUN APARTMENTS RIGHT HERE. THE APARTMENTS AND CONDOS ARE DEVELOPMENT WOULD SERVE AS A BUFFER BEFORE YOU GOT TO THE INDUSTRIAL. UM SO ALL RESIDENTS AREN'T THERE YET, SO THOSE RESIDENTS ARE THERE. SO IF WE WOULD PUT INDUSTRIAL RIGHT UP AGAINST THEM, HOW DO YOU BUFFER BUILDING THAT'S THREE OR FOUR STORIES TALL. SO OUR APARTMENTS WILL BUFFER THAT FOR THEM AS IT GOES TO THE SOUTH, AND YOU'VE GOT TWO PIECES HERE, WHICH ARE NOW ORAL CREEPS HERE. OVER THERE . THAT KIND OF MAKES ANYTHING YOU WANT TO BE MORE OF THE INDUSTRIAL USE THAN THAT IS WALKING ROAD REALLY ISN'T A BUFFER. I MEAN, IT'S A ROAD. SO AND THEN TO THE NORTH. YOU'VE GOT THAT ENTIRE TRAIL. IN THAT TREE LINE, AND THOSE ARE SIGNIFICANT TREES. I MEAN, THEY'RE 40 50 FT IN THE AIR. THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME ALONG THAT RAILROAD TRACK LINE. SO AND YOU CAN SEE AS YOU GET TO THE NORTH, THE CLUSTERS OF TREES, ETCETERA THAT THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP UM BY INITIATING THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY AND GETTING THEM TO HELP CONNECT OR THAT ENTITY TO HELP CONNECT THOSE AND YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ACTUALLY IN BETWEEN THE TREE LINE, AND THE RETAIL HAS OTHER SLIVERS OF RESIDENTIAL THAT RUNS RUNS UP SOUTH OF 36 AFTER THE RETAIL AND THE NORTH OF 36. UM AND AFTER THE RETAIL. IT ALSO HAS RESIDENTIAL AND THEN YOU RUN INTO THE CREEK MIDDLE CREEK, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT BARRIER. FOR TWO REASONS. ONE IS A CREEK INTO IT. FLOODS PRETTY DRASTICALLY IN THIS AREA. THERE'S MORE THAN 100 AND 50 ACRES WORTH OF FLOOD ZONE ON THE EAST SIDE. THE WAY THE WAY IN WHICH I HAD INTERPRETED THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH I DIDN'T DEVELOP IT. IT WAS DEVELOPED YEARS AGO. 2018 OR SEVEN GOING INTO 18 EVEN A YEAR BEFORE THAT, PROBABLY, BUT ALONG THE HIGHWAY AND ALONG 36, YOU WOULD HAVE BUSINESSES OR INDUSTRIAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN YOU'RE BASICALLY BUFFERING. THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES FROM THE HIGHWAYS. BUT YOU'RE BRINGING. WITH THE TOWN HOMES AND WHATNOT. YOU ARE

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BUT KIND OF MY UNDERSTANDING OR AT LEAST LOOKING AT THAT MY INTUITION WOULD LEAD ME TO BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS INTENDED TO BUFFER. RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES FROM THE HIGHWAY.

THERE'S TWO BUFFERS GOING ON THERE. ONE R THREE STORY BUILDINGS ARE BUFFERING THE TOWN HOMES FROM 33, BUT WE ARE BRINGING MORE, BUT YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUFFERS HERE.

ONE RESIDENTS. THIS IS A VERY DID YOU EVER BEEN IN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE. AERATION OF APARTMENTS. 2025 YEARS DOWNWARD . YOU GO INTO HERE. THESE CONDOS AND APARTMENTS ARE MAINTAINING ACCURATELY, UM, SO BUT TO PUT AN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHT BESIDE THAT DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE THE CONDOS THE OWNERSHIP IS ON THAT ON THAT EASTERN SIDE, SO I MEAN ONE. WE WANT TO DEVELOP APARTMENTS THERE. TWO AND TWO. THOSE WILL SERVE AS A BUFFER. OUR RESIDENTS AREN'T THERE YET.

SO OBVIOUSLY IF THERE'S AN INDUSTRIAL PARK DEVELOPMENT TO FURTHER TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH RESIDENTS WILL SERVE AS THE BUFFER AND THIS ISN'T UM, THIS ISN'T PARTICULARLY STRANGE IF YOU GO OVER TO KENMORE PLACE OR PLACES BEHIND MYERS BUFFERING THE INDUSTRIAL FROM RETAIL, SO IT'S IN THE MIDDLE, SO I MEAN IT. IS THERE THOSE TYPE OF THE APARTMENTS BEING RENTAL AND THE TOWN HOMES BEING RENTAL. FROM THIS STANDPOINT? UM THEY THEY SERVE A PURPOSE AS AS THAT BUFFER, SO WHEREAS IF WE WOULD FOLLOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SPECIFICALLY INPUT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WALKING ROAD. THEN YOU'D HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES LITERALLY ACROSS A TOWNSHIP ROAD, WHICH WILL PROBABLY BE WIDENING THE ETCETERA BUT ACROSS FROM AN INDUSTRIAL PARK, AND THAT WOULD BE YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO TO COLEMAN CROSSING THAT WOULD BE LIKE PUTTING IN THEM WHERE THE V F W IS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IT DOES GO IN THERE. IT IS A SUGGESTION THAT'S CREATED AND WE USED LIES IT AS THIS IS WHAT MARYSVILLE IS ASKING FOR. DEVELOPERS DO IT. A LOT OF DEVELOPERS WILL NOT THEY'LL GRAB 50 ACRES HERE AND THEY DO ONE PRODUCT. THEY WILL TRY TO FORCE THAT ONE PRODUCT THEN WE'RE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AT AT ROCKFORD ON THE DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENT SIDE, NOT ROCKFORD HOMES. HE DOES APARTMENTS AND SINGLE FAMILY, BUT WE'RE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE AGAIN HERE I AM DOING ENTITLEMENTS FOR AN INDUSTRIAL. I'M NOT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPER THERE WILL BE AN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPER THAT COMES IN THAT HELPS US WITH THAT PROCESS, BUT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY GOING THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENT PHASES OF THIS IN ORDER TO PUT THE MASTER PLAN TOGETHER. SO THAT HELP WITH YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, ENOUGH. I'M GONNA SIMPLIFY THE RESPONSIBLE BIT AND MAYBE THIS IS MISCHARACTERIZING YOU A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU'RE YOU'RE ALTERING THE LAYOUT OF THE INDUSTRIAL USE. ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE THAT ALTER LAYOUT , GIVEN THAT THE CONFIDENCE PLAN IS A GENERAL GUIDE, AND IT'S NOT SET IN STONE. IT'S NOT RIGID, RIGHT? IT WAS CREATED YEARS AGO TRYING TO UTILIZE LAND THAT MAKES SENSE IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY. AND YOU'RE TRYING TO ADD BUFFERS IN THE WAY IN WHICH YOU ARE IN YOUR PLAN, SO I JUST YOU ARE CORRECT. I WOULD JUST IT'S NOT NECESSARILY JUST ME. OKAY SO WE DO MASTER PLANNING, AND THAT IS A NATURAL STEP OFF OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT IS A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT PROVIDE INPUT. UM, YOU KNOW, THE CONSULTANT WILL DO THEIR BEST TO CAPTURE IT. BUT IT IS A GUIDE THAT DEVELOPERS USE. THIS IS GENERAL WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO IT, YOU THEN COME IN, AND SO WE HAVE EXPLAINED HANDED THIS BASED ON THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BASED ON CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF AND SOME OTHERS INTO THIS IS HOW WE UTILIZE IT. AND IF YOU GO BACK, YOU GO BACK TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HERE. THESE ARE THESE ARE THINGS BECAUSE ONE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS DON'T FOLLOW PARCELS. THEY FOLLOW REGIONS SO YOU CAN HAVE INDIVIDUAL PARCELS THAT DIFFERENT OWNERS HAVE A DIFFERENT IDEA. BUT TRYING TO BUFFER THAT THAT RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHY THE EXPANSION OF THE PURPLE FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT, AND YOU KNOW WHEN WE GET AROUND TO IT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL AND THE EXPANSION OF THE NEXT INNOVATION PARK, WHICH MARYSVILLE NEEDS THOSE JOBS BECAUSE THOSE JOBS PAY INCOME TAX THEY'LL PAY, YOU KNOW, SALES TAX TO THE COUNTY. THEY'LL PAY FOR THE SCHOOLS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS THAT WAS THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU WANT. WHEN YOU PUT A MIXED USE TOGETHER, MOST DEVELOPERS WILL STAND IN FRONT OF YOU AND SAY, I WANT TO DO 100 ACRES WORTH HOUSES, AND THAT'S ALL I WANT TO DO SO, BUT WE'RE GOING TO ULTIMATELY BRING RETAIL. WE'RE GONNA BRING INDUSTRIAL WE'RE GOING TO BRING BUSINESSES TO HELP WITH THOSE THINGS, AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE THE SCHOOLS CAN SEE SOME OF THIS GROWTH. IT'S NOT JUST RESIDENTIAL THAT WE'RE BRINGING HERE. THE PIECES THAT WE WILL DEVELOP WILL BE THE RESIDENTIAL AND OTHERS WILL DEVELOP. THE INDUSTRIAL AND OTHERS HAVE DEVELOPED THE RETAIL. UM I'VE GOT AN INDUSTRIAL BACKGROUND FOR FIVE YEARS I MANAGED NATIONWIDE INDUSTRIAL PORTFOLIO. I WILL TELL YOU I WILL STAY COMPLETELY AWAY FROM ANYTHING RETAIL. I HAVE NO INTEREST IN DOING THAT. IT'S A BEAST IN ITSELF, BUT THAT RETAIL IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR TWO REASONS. ONE YOU GET THE SALES TAX. UM AND YOU GET A

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WHETHER IT'S AROUND EXISTING RESIDENTS ARE AROUND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OR AROUND THE DIFFERENT USES, BUT THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT THAT ARE AT TOP OF OUR MIND. AND PLEASE DON'T MISINTERPRET MY LINE OF QUESTIONING HERE. I'M NOT TRYING TO ARGUE AGAINST, UH, YOU KNOW, PUTTING INDUSTRIAL AREAS IN OUR CITY. IT'S NOT MY ROLE IN PLANNING COMMISSION. UM I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU'RE SAYING IT'S IN LINE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I LOOK AT THAT, AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, IT LOOKS DIFFERENT. SO I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS AND PURPLE IS A DIFFERENT COLOR. ABSOLUTELY BUT WE'VE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHAT MAKES SENSE FROM THAT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND SCOTT, I IF I GET A VOTE, WHICH I DON'T GET A VOTE, I MAKE IT ALL YELLOW BECAUSE I'M A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER. BUT YOU NEED THIS PIECE AND VERY RARELY. DO YOU HAVE AN AREA THAT CAN SUPPORT INDUSTRIAL, HOUSING AND RETAIL AND THE EAST SIDE OF MARYSVILLE AS THAT PIECE? MR CHAIR. ONE MORE QUESTION. KIND OF DEVIATE A LITTLE BIT. SO YOU MENTIONED THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY AND THEN THE PRE ANNEXATION AND MAYBE IT'S A QUESTION FOR YOU. MAYBE QUESTION FOR CITY STAFF, BUT UM, THAT WAS VOTED ON A FEW MONTHS AGO. IT WAS PASSED THROUGH COUNSEL IF I REMEMBER AND OKAY, AND I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCURATELY. WHAT IS THE OUTCOME OF THAT VOTE? UM DO IN TERMS OF HOW WE SHOULDN'T CAN GIVE CONSIDERATION TO THIS PLAN.

WHAT IS IT? WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL? OTHER THAN WHAT IS A PRE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO ANNEX THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT ASHLEY, I'LL LET HER ANSWER EYE CANCER FREE ANNEXATION COMMUNITY 20 PROCESS MHM. YOUR APPLICATION NOW TO THE OF THAT TOWN IS THAT THEY'RE REVIEWING THAT VOTE ON IT. AND THEN THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY IS DIFFERENT FROM THE PRE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT. IT'S PROCESS. OKAY I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THOSE WORDS. YOU'RE IT IS SO YEAH. LET ME LET ME HELP HERE. SO A PRE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT. IT DOES TWO THINGS.

IT SAYS WE'RE GONNA WORK TOGETHER. THAT'S ALL IT SAYS ON THE BEGINNING THAT IT IDENTIFIES . YOU KNOW SOME FINANCIAL STRUCTURES THAT NEED TO BE IN PLACE TO MAKE A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE TOGETHER. IT IDENTIFIES THE FIRST THREE ANNEXATIONS IN THERE. THAT DOCUMENT DID. BUT IT TALKS ABOUT THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER, AND WHEN I SAY WE IT'S NOT JUST US. IT'S THE SCHOOL'S CITY COUNCIL. ITS STAFF , IT'S THE DEVELOPER. IT'S A LOT. IT'S A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT THESE FINANCIAL MECHANISMS THAT NEED TO GO IN PLACE TO MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL. UM MARYSVILLE HAS DONE THE FIRST STEP. THEY INVESTED $50 MILLION INTO A PUMP STATION. THERE'S A THERE'S AN EXPECTED RETURN ON INVESTMENT ON THAT INVESTMENT. UM JUST A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS WILL PAY IT BACK, PROBABLY 33 OR FOUR TIMES WITH THE TAP FEES AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS, BUT THAT'S NOT THE MAIN REASON. BUT NOW IT'S JUST SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THOSE FINANCIAL MECHANISMS AND TO BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND WHEN I SAY BRING TOGETHER WE ARE TRYING TO DO THAT. I PUT A LOT OF TIME IN WITH THE SCHOOLS.

WE'VE GOT SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS SET UP NEXT WEEK TO BRING THE SCHOOL BOARD. UM UH, THE BOARD MEMBERS THROUGH THIS PROCESS BECAUSE I CAN'T GO HAVE A MEETING WITH ALL THREE OF THEM TOGETHER, SO WE'RE MEETING WITH THEM INDIVIDUALLY TO JUST BRING THEM UP TO SPEED AND THEN WE WILL SIT DOWN OVER THE NEXT TWO OR THREE MONTHS AS THE ANNEXATION COMES THROUGH THE PROCESS. UM THE ANNEXATION WILL ACTUALLY BE AT MARYSVILLE. YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE A SERVICE AGREEMENT. UH THAT YOU ALL YOU SAY IS COUNTY. WE WILL SERVICE THE AREA THAT'S BEING AN EX. SO IT WILL BE A CITY COUNCIL NEXT MONTH OR THIS MONTH, ETCETERA, BUT THAT DOCUMENT DOES TWO

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WHEN THE REST OF THE FARM FIELDS AROUND MARYSVILLE DON'T AND THERE'D BE NO VALUE TO MARYSVILLE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SERVICE IT. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE NOT DEVELOPING, ETCETERA, SO THAT PRE ANNEXATION DOCUMENT GIVES ME THE RIGHT TO GIVE MY LAND OWNERS AND MY PARTNERS WHO OWN LAND THE ASSURANCE THAT IF WE CAN'T GET THE ZONING TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO, THAT WE CAN BACK OUT OF IT. AND IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE, BUT THAT PRE ANNEXATION DOES TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY DOES TALK ABOUT THE TIFFS THAT TALKS ABOUT PILOT PAYMENTS TO THE SCHOOL TO MAKE SURE THE SCHOOL IS MADE WHOLE. THEY WILL BE MADE MORE THAN WHOLE BECAUSE OF THAT COMMUNITY AUTHORITY, PEACE AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. BUT WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOLS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT MEANS. WE'LL WORK WITH FIRE CHIEF AND WE WORKED AT THE POLICE CHIEF, BECAUSE THOSE SERVICES ARE THERE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY OF JEROME VILLAGE AGAIN, IF FUNDED $120 MILLION IN INFRASTRUCTURE OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME THAT YOU KNOW, LAST 15 YEARS, A LOT OF THAT HAS WENT. I MEAN, $6.5 MILLION WENT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY HAD TO HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT. YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL HAS GOT 42 ACRES DOWN THERE. YOU KNOW THE WATER IN THE SEWERS ALL RUN BY THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF JEROME BILLY, SO YOU CAN DO A LOT WITH THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY. ALL OF THOSE ARE OPTIONS. NONE OF THEM ARE DONE. AND WE REALLY HAVEN'T SAT. WE'VE GOT SOME OUTLINES THAT WE'VE SHARED. I MEAN, WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT. AND THAT'S ALL THE PRE ANNEXATION SAYS IS, AS WE BRING THIS STUFF THROUGH WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THOSE ITEMS. YEP THANKS FOR THAT EXPLANATION. MHM LIKE TO SHARE MY TIME WITH SOME OTHER. YEAH PURPOSE QUESTION AT THIS TIME. I DO ACTUALLY LOOKING THROUGH THIS DOCUMENT PROPOSING SUB AREA BE ZONING, UM YOU WERE REFERENCING.

CURRENT CODE MANUFACTURING INNOVATION AND LIGHT MANUFACTURING DISTRICT. BOTH OF THOSE WE HAVE NOW AS A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF 50 FT, BUT YOU ARE SAYING MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF 85 FT. YEAH, I CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT THE REASONING BEHIND THAT FLEXIBILITY. SO FROM THE STANDPOINT ON A P U D THERE'S GIVES AND TAKES ON A P U. D S SO ON A MIXED USE. OUR OPTIONS ARE OPTIONS TO BRING A MIXED USE THROUGH IS TO CARVE IT INTO LITTLE TINY PIECES. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE APARTMENT. THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL. UM THIS IS THE CIVIC PEACE AND THIS IS THE INDUSTRIAL PARK AND BRING THEM THROUGH INDIVIDUAL UNDER STANDARD ZONING. ON A STANDARD ZONING. WE WOULD MEET EVERY ASPECT OF YOUR CODE. THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THE INDUSTRIAL PARK ONLY NEEDS TO GIVE EITHER FIVE OR 10% COMMON AREA. THE RESIDENTS ONLY NEED TO GIVE 10% COMMENTARY, ETCETERA SO IT IS GIVE AND TAKES ON A P U D. WE WRITE IT. IT'S HOLISTIC AND ITS APPROACH AND WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR VARIANCES. BUT THERE ARE TRADE OFFS, YOU KNOW, FROM A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT STANDPOINT, WHAT WE'RE SHOWING.

ON THE TWO RESIDENTIAL PODS AND THE PROTECTED COMMON AREA THAT COMMON AREAS GOING TO BE 46% ON THIS FIRST PIECE. IT WILL VARY AS THE PIECES GO FORWARD. WE'RE NOT CHANGING YOUR CODE TO REQUIRE US TO PUT IN ANY MORE THAN 10% BUT BY THE NATURE OF THE MASTER PLAN AND WHAT WE'RE SHOWING, IT ULTIMATELY WILL BE. IT'S JUST GONNA BE BROKEN INTO SOME DIFFERENT BUCKETS. WE'RE GOING TO BE 4.6 TIMES MORE COMMON AREA PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT AND ALL THOSE GOOD THINGS THAT THAT HAPPENED. DEVELOPMENTS DONE CORRECTLY. WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL THOSE THINGS THE RIGHT WAY. UM BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE EXCEPTIONS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. THE OTHER ONE IS, YOU KNOW THAT SINGLE FAMILY? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW IT, ASKING FOR 5 FT SETBACKS, UM IN IN ON THE SIDE YARDS RATHER THAN 7.5. IT'S 2.5 FT. DO I USE THOSE? IF I PUT 80 OR 90 FT LOTS THERE IN THE FUTURE? NO. THERE WILL BE MUCH BIGGER SETBACKS, ETCETERA, BUT WE'RE ASKING FOR 55 FT WITH 5 FT SETBACK, SO THERE'S GIVE AND TAKES WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT THE FINANCIAL MECHANISMS THAT COMMON AREA PERCENTAGES ALL OF THESE, THERE'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE BUFFERS THAT THAT WE PUT IN AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS SO IT IS GIVE AND TAKE SO THE FLEXIBILITY OF HAVING THE ABILITY TO GO 85 FT. IS AN ITEM THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE ON

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THERE WE GO. OKAY? SO THE THREE STORY IS ALONG THE 33. AND THEN THREE STORIES THAT BEHIND THE CLUBHOUSE. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE YOU HAD MENTIONED EARLIER THAN BUFFERING TO THE INDUSTRIAL AREA IS THE PROPERTIES HERE. YEAH, WE ARE IN THE BUFFER. SO THIS IS 36 ACRES. DEVELOPMENT IS BUFFERING. NOW THERE WILL BE SETBACKS WILL COMPLY WITH ALL THE SETBACKS THAT ARE REQUIRED IN THE INDUSTRIAL, WHICH HAS BIGGER SETBACKS, THEN THE RESIDENTIAL REQUIREMENTS SO IN BETWEEN HERE AND THAT INDUSTRIAL , THERE WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT BUFFER ON BOTH SIDES. SO I BELIEVE OUR BUFFER IS A MINIMUM OF 25. FT I CAN'T ACTUALLY SEE IT. ACTUALLY, I CAN'T SEE IT THERE. UM SO WE WILL HAVE AT LEAST 25 FT. ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS IN THEIR PARKING LOTS WILL HAVE BUFFERS. WE ARE NOT CHANGING ANY OF THOSE BUFFERS FROM YOUR CODE.

SO THEY WILL THERE'LL BE A SIGNIFICANT PIECE. MY COMMENT ABOUT THE BUFFER IS FROM THE EXISTING RESIDENTS TO THE FURTHER TO THE NORTH. HERE ARE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS THE BUFFER SO THE INDUSTRIAL IS NOT GOING RIGHT UP AGAINST THE CONDOS THAT THEY PURCHASED. YEAH I GET THAT PART OF IT. I'M I'M LOOKING AT THE NEWER HOMES OR WHAT DO THEY CALL TOWN HOMES THERE? YEAH WHAT NORTH AND SOUTH THEIR THEIR BACKYARDS. THERE'S GOING TO BE JUST WITH BUFFERING TO AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING. IT'S IS THERE ANY PLANNED LANDSCAPING ? YEAH SO YES, THEY'RE VERY LIKELY BE MOUNDING LANDSCAPING. I MEAN, THAT WOULD COME THROUGH AS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THERE'S VERY LIKELY TO BE A FENCE THERE AS WELL. SO THAT FENCE WOULD BE PRIVATE. THIS IS ONE OF THE PIECES THAT THEY DIDN'T GET INTO. WE GOT INTO A LOT WHEN WE DID. THE PRE ANNEXATION TALKED ABOUT THE BUT THERE WILL BE SOME UPPER UPPER UPGRADED STANDARDS RELATED TO THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY, TREE LINED STREETS FENCED IN, YOU KNOW THE THOROUGHFARES THAT COME THROUGH THIS AREA WILL BE FENCED. YOU KNOW, I TAKE A LOT FROM JEROME VILLAGE JUST DRIVE THE UNLOADED ROADS AND DR JEROME VILLAGE AND YOU'LL START TO KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. BUT THERE WILL BE SOME UPGRADED AMENITIES FROM THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY THAT WILL BE A PRIVATE PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN. THE DEVELOPER OF THE APARTMENTS AND THE DEVELOPER OF THE INDUSTRIAL , BUT THOSE WILL WORK OUT AND THOSE WILL BE WORKED OUT HERE BECAUSE ONE WE ARE THE DEVELOPER OF THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS IN THE TOWN HOMES, SO WE WILL BE INTERESTED IN WHAT THAT BUFFER IS AND HOW IT LOOKS AND THERE WILL BE TREES ON THERE. THEY WILL PROBABLY VERY LIKELY BE SOME MOUNDING, BUT THE INDUSTRIAL HAS A MUCH BIGGER BUFFER REQUIREMENTS. SETBACK

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THE ONE THING THAT WE HAVE IN THE CURRENT ZONING CODE IS THAT THERE'S LIKE ADDITIONAL BUFFER REQUIRES REQUIREMENTS BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL INDUSTRIAL, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD INCLUDE WITHIN THE TEXT TO SAY IF IT'S YOU KNOW, TWO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. MAYBE THERE'S MORE NARROW BUFFER. BUT IF IT'S IF IT'S DO OPPOSING PROPERTY USES RESIDENTIAL TO INDUSTRIAL, YOU COULD HAVE A LARGER BUFFER REQUIREMENT THERE. THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE'RE SHOWING THE CREEK AND IN THE AREA THAT WE WEREN'T PROTECT, BECAUSE THAT IS THE PERFECT I MEAN THAT CREEK YOU HAVE TO SAVE 55 OR 50 FT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE CREEK THAT THAT'S IN. SUB AREA AND D, UM 50 FT, SO THE BUFFER BETWEEN THE INDUSTRIAL THERE WILL BE MUCH MORE THAN 100 FT. AND IT'LL BE MATURE TREE LINE AND THERE'S A CREEK IN THERE THAT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT TAKING OUT, BUT THAT'S WHY THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH MAKES SENSE THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT PRETEND THAT PROTECTION WHATEVER. WAY SHAPE OR FORM IS THE WAY TO GO. I WOULD WANT TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S SOME SORT OF BUFFERING AND NOT JUST SAY WELL, BECAUSE YOU'RE A NEW RESIDENT. YOU ARE THE BUFFER LIKE THAT'S WHAT YOU HAD TO MOVE INTO. UM I WOULDN'T WANT TO PLAN APPROPRIATELY AND ON A P U D ON ON A P U D THE NEXT STEP IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IF IT WERE TO GET APPROVAL ON THE SKETCH PLAN, THE NEXT STEP IS DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH HAS THE COMPLETE TEXT, AND IT WILL TELL YOU ALL THE TEXTS THAT HAS THE SETBACKS. THE PARKING RATIOS, ETCETERA, ONLY F. WE'RE CHANGING IT. WHAT FROM WHAT IS ALREADY IN YOUR CODE. WE WON'T WRITE A TEXT. THAT'S 50 PAGES. IF IT JUST REGURGITATES WHAT'S IN YOUR CODE? AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA FIND IS THE MAJORITY OF WORK WE'RE GOING INTO IS GOING TO BE IN THE LIGHT MANUFACTURING DISTRICT CODE AND IN THE INNOVATION PARK CODE. ONE LAST QUESTION, MR CHAIR, SO COULD YOU GO TO THE IMAGE OF THE TOWN HOMES? YES I FORGOT TO SHOW YOU GUYS THOSE BECAUSE IT'S ON A SEPARATE DOCUMENT. MY FILES GET TOO BIG HERE. YES SO LET ME PAGE THROUGH HERE. SO THIS IS THE CLUBHOUSE, SO MULTIPLE MATERIALS . OUR CLUBHOUSE TO THE NORTH HAD I THINK IT WAS FIVE. WE ONLY NEEDED FOR BUT I THINK WE HAD FIVE OR SIX OF THE BONUS DENSITY ARCHITECTURAL PIECES. SO THIS IS A CLUBHOUSE, UM, VARYING MATERIALS, METAL ROOF. OBVIOUSLY THE DOUBLE WINDOWS. UM THIS IS JUST AN ELEVATION PICTURE. SEVERELY LARGE CLUBHOUSE FOR 500 UNITS. YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT POLLING WILL SHOW YOU THOSE THINGS. THIS IS JUST THE OTHER SIDE. THIS IS A MULTI FAMILY. SO FROM A DESIGN ARCHITECT STANDPOINT, WE HAVE YOU KNOW THE CANOPIES. WE HAVE THE PORCHES AND THE, UH, THE BALCONIES. WE HAVE THE DOUBLE WINDOWS THAT WE'RE INCORPORATING IN MULTIPLE PRIMARY MATERIALS. THIS IS WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE FROM THE SIDES FORESIGHTED ARCHITECTURE. OF COURSE, THAT'S THAT'S DESIGN. THESE ARE THE TOWN HOMES, SO YOU HAVE A VARYING THE TUBE. THE THREE BEDROOMS WILL COME WITH A TWO CAR GARAGE, WHICH IS ATTACHED AND THE OTHER UNITS WILL HAVE ONE CAR GARAGES. THERE WILL BE FOR THE THREE STORY WALK UPS.

YOU WILL HAVE PRIVATE GARAGE OPTIONS, BUT IT WILL BE SURFACE PARKING, LIKE ALL THE OTHER APARTMENT COMPLEXES. BUT THIS ESSENTIALLY IS WHAT THE TOWN HOMES AND AGAIN ROCKFORD WENT OUT AND HAD THESE SPECIFICALLY DEVELOPED FOR THIS SITE. THEY HAVE NOT BUILT THESE IN ANY LOCATION. UM WE ACTUALLY HAD AN EMPTY NESTER PRODUCT THAT WAS INTERESTED IN THIS SITE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. UM AND THAT'S A BIG NEED HERE WHEN THEY DECIDED THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE THIS PARCEL, WE DECIDED THAT WE'D GO AHEAD AND DEVELOP THIS. SO THIS IS THE TOWN HOMES. THESE ARE SIX UNITS HERE. THERE'S SIX AND FOUR UNIT BUILDINGS. THAT'S MAILBOXES. AND THOSE ARE THE ALL THE PRETTY PICTURES I HAVE FOR NOW. SO BUT WE WILL DO THE BUFFERS AND THE LANDSCAPE DRAWINGS AND ALL THAT STUFF IN COLOR WITH THIS SPECIES AND ALL THAT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

IN REGARD TO THIS PHOTO HERE. THERE'S A SINGLE GARAGE BAY. AND THEN HOW MANY BEDROOMS IS THIS? BUILDING. I DON'T HAVE THE FOUR PLANS, BUT I WOULD ASSUME THE SINGLE BAYS ARE TWO BEDROOMS AND THE DOUBLE R. THE THREE BEDROOMS. SO YOU'LL ALWAYS BE ABLE TO HAVE A PART OR A PARKING SPACE IN THE FRONT OF THE GARAGE. SO ESSENTIALLY, THEY WOULD BE TO BUILD IN SPACES. BUT DON'T FORGET THAT THE OVERALL PROJECT ALSO HAS SURFACE PARKING FOR THE THREE STORY WALK UPS AS WELL. SO WE WILL MEET THE PARKING RATIOS. THE CITY MARY'S OH, HAS WE WERE EASILY MAKE THEM AND ACTUALLY, UM, SOMETIMES IT'S MORE PARKING THAN YOU ACTUALLY NEED, GIVEN HOW SOME PEOPLE

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WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHICH DIRECTION THE GARAGES ARE FACING SOME, AND I AM ASKING THAT QUESTION FOR THAT. FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. ALSO I'M LOOKING AT THESE BUILDINGS AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY EXAMPLE OF THAT AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERN TREND IN OUR COMP PLAN. NONE OF THEM SHOW THIS TYPE OF PROPERTY. THIS TYPE OF BUILDING. UM, FRONT LOADED 56 TYPE. FOUR AND SIX FOR AND SIX TYPE GARAGE FACING FACING THE STREET DOESN'T MEAN BECAUSE YOU YOU DO HAVE THE WILCOX AND THE REDWOOD PRODUCT, WHICH YOU'RE SINGLE STORY, MORE OR LESS SO I MEAN, THAT'S IT IS NOT FRONT LOADED BECAUSE I THINK THE MAJORITY OF THOSE AT LEAST THE ONES ON INDUSTRIAL THAT I SEE HAVE THE FRONT ON ONE SIDE AND THE BACK OVER FROM THE GARAGE. UM BUT THIS THIS IS YOUR TYPICAL YOUR TYPICAL TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT STYLE. BUT THERE WILL BE SIDEWALKS THEY SIDEWALKS AND TRAILS ARE ACTUALLY SHOWN ON THE ABOVE VIEW OF THE OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT I SHOWED FOR SOME VERY I'M GOOD WITH QUESTIONS. THANKS BART. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ALLEY LOADED ON YOUR SITE LEARNING IT. YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT'S A DIFFERENT BEAST. ALL RIGHT. IT'S ALL QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. ALRIGHT UM BERT, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME WOODED AREA IN THE ONE PARCEL TO THE SOUTH. AND THEN THE FARM FIELD. THERE'S TWO AREAS THAT ARE WOODED, AND I'M CURIOUS. IS THERE ANY WETLANDS ON THAT PART OF PROPERTY MAY HISTORICALLY, FARMERS WOULD HAVE CLEARED THAT LAND IF IT WAS A AVAILABLE TO BE FARMED. ALRIGHT, LET'S SEE HERE. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE TREE, RIGHT? CORRECT COMING DOWN. YEAH HAVE YOU CHECKED? IS THERE ANY WETLANDS BACK? WE HAVE NOT DONE THE WETLAND STUDY IN THE ASSESSMENT. ETCETERA THOSE AREAS WOULD NOT BE MITIGATED WOULD NOT BE MITIGATED. SO UM, IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT WE EXPECT THE MAJORITY OF THESE STANDPOINT, IF THERE'S 50 OR 100 HOPPER FROM THE INDUSTRIAL, I'D LIKE THEM TO KEEP THOSE TREES BUT ESSENTIALLY THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPER WILL DETERMINE THAT. SO WE HAVE, UM, SHARED WITH STAFF IN THE CITY COUNCIL. THERE ARE AREAS THAT YOU DO NEED TO CUT DOWN TREES AND THAT SQUARE RIGHT? THERE IS ONE OF THEM. SEAN. BUT IT IS IN THE MIDDLE. IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF INDUSTRIAL PARK. I CAN TAKE YOU ON A WALK, AND I WALK TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBER THROUGH SOME OF THE TREES THAT WERE KEEPING. I'VE SHOWN THEM THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A 15 YEAR OLD FIELD THAT USED TO BE A PASTURE THAT WAS JUST LEFT. IT'S GOT HONEYSUCKLE. IT'S GOT SHAG BARK. IT'S GOT A BUNCH OF TREES YOU DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT. YOU CAN'T WALK UNDER IT. AND THEN I'LL TAKE YOU UP TO A PARCEL THAT THAT WE'RE IN CONTROL OF WHAT WE BRING IT THROUGH HERE. AND YOU WALK IN THE CANOPY OF 60 FT IN THE AIR, AND THERE'S NOTHING BELOW THE TREES BECAUSE NOTHING CAN GROW THERE, AND IT'S JUST IMMACULATE. THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TYPES OF TREES. THERE ARE TREES THAT HAVE TO COME DOWN IN SOME THAT DON'T HMM. SO BUT THAT ONE IS ONE THAT THAT WE HAVE A QUESTION WAS MORE IS THAT A WETLANDS BECAUSE THEY LAUGHED WITH TREES. TYPICALLY THAT WOULD BE WHERE THE FARMS WERE DRAINING TOWARDS AND YOU MIGHT HAVE WATER. I DO KNOW THAT THEIR TILE DOES DRAIN THAT WAY.

THERE IS A SWELLING GOES THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF IT. HOW HOW THEY DEAL WITH THAT? I DON'T KNOW. IF IT'S A FORMAL WETLAND. IT WAS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT WAS CREATED. UM BUT NO, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A FULL ASSESSMENT HERE USUALLY DO THAT IN THE ENGINEERING PHASES AFTER YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY DEVELOPING, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S ZONED AS A CORNFIELD.

QUESTION NO MORE. ALL RIGHT, SO WITH THAT WE WILL OPEN THE FLOOR TO SUSAN COMMENTS VERY CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM WE HAVE UP TO FIVE MINUTES. I SAW YOU. YOU STEPPED IN REFERENCE TO THE SWEARING AND SO DO YOU DECLARE THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL

[01:15:03]

I WELL, THE COMPLAINT DOESN'T SHOW ANYTHING LIKE THESE TOWN HOMES, SO I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S GARAGE LOADED, HOLMES ADDS TO THE WELCOME BILITY FACTOR TO THE PROPERTY. UNDERSTAND THERE'S WALKING TRAILS, BUT, UM ARE YOU REFERRING JUST TO SOME OF THE REFERENCE IMAGES WITH PLANTER, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ALL GARAGE FRONT LOADED TO THE TO THE TO THE ROADS DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S GOING TO ADD WALK ABILITY IS GOING TO BE GOOD WALK ABILITY, AND, UH TO ME. I WOULD RATHER HAVE A GARAGE IN THE CAREER LOADED, ALLEY LOADED PROPERTIES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE IN IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 15 ARQAM PLANT, AND THEY SHOW PROPERTIES LIKE TOWN HOMES THERE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE LOOKING LIKE THIS. IN TERMS OF REFERENCE IMAGES. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT REALLY LOOKS LIKE THIS. AND THE ONES THE HOMES THAT WE DO HAVE. IT'S WALK ABILITY. IN THE FRONT WITH REAR ENTRY GARAGE. THAT'S RIGHT. MR ENGEL. RELATED TO THE SKETCH PLAN. YES. MR FISHER. YES. MR STILYAN. ABSOLUTELY SORRY. MR NICHOLSON? YES. MR BERBICE. YES. MR WONG WITS? YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. NEXT WE'LL MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION ITEMS. MHM

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[COMMENTS OF INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS]

CURRENT LOCATION FOR IT. MR FISHER, UM, AGREE WITH PREVIOUS COMMENTS AND THEN ALSO THE I LIKE THE IDEA THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THE DESIGN THAT'S UNIQUE. THAT'S NOT SEEN ANYWHERE ELSE IN COLUMBUS THAT THIS IS A FIRST TIME DESIGNED FOR THIS UNION. MR HUNTER WOULD ECHO YES , THIS IS INDUSTRIALS NEEDED. I'M GLAD TO SEE AN EXPANSION OF INDUSTRIAL THAT MY BIGGEST RESERVATIONS ARE WITH THE SUB AREA A AND JUST THE LAYOUT OF THAT, BUT OTHERWISE YEAH, YEAH.

GOOD DISCUSSION TONIGHT. MR ANGLE, I WOULD AGREE, UM, JUST KIND OF LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AND GO FROM THERE, BUT I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY'S SENTIMENT THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT SPOT. ALRIGHT FOR MYSELF. I WOULD JUST SAY I LIKE SEEING PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM AND, UH, IT'S NICE. A LOT OF TIMES. WE USUALLY ONLY HAVE THE APPLICANTS AND MAYBE ONE OR TWO. OBVIOUSLY THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS WE HAD LOTS OF RESIDENTS, BUT, UM, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE PEOPLE SO GLAD THAT YOU HAVE COME OUT WITH THAT IT IS 7 51 AND, UM, MOTION TO A JOURNEY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. ALRIGHT EVERYONE IMPROVES. AI, WHO'S

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