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IS 6 30 ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 3RD . I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. SCOTLAND HERE. HERE. PRESIDENT. HERE. HERE.
PRESIDENT. OKAY? WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL MINUTES HASN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW
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THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR THE SEPTEMBER 5TH 2023 REGULAR MEETING. YES. ANY COMMENTS CONCERNS AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT COMMUNICATING PRIOR TO THE MEETING. I HAD FAILED TO CITE THE NUMBERS. I HAD VOTED NO ON. I HAD SOME ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE PROPOSAL LAST MONTH, I HAD FAILED TO CITE THE NUMBER IN THE MEETING, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO ADD THAT OR JUST AS A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD NOTE THAT OKAY. BECAUSE I HAVE THE NUMBER AND, UH, WANTED TO ADD IT TO THE MINUTES. OKAY, BUT I DIDN'T SAY IN THE MEETING, SO I DON'T FEEL IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO ADD IT. SO ANYTHING ELSE? YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, MR HUNTER. UH EVERYONE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, ALRIGHT, OPPOSED SAME.
THANK YOU. WE ONLY WANT TO THE SWEARING OF CITIZENS AND APPLICANTS. MM PARDON ME. UH SO
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ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK THIS EVENING OR THINKING THERE'S A SLIGHT POSSIBILITY IF THEY'RE GOING TO SPEAK. UM IF WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE STAND UP, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. READ AN OATH AND AT THE END OF IT, YOU SIGNAL BY SAYING I WILL. DO YOU DECLARE THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH UNDER THE PAINS AND PENALTIES OF PERJURY AND FALSIFICATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. RIGHT AT THIS POINT IN THE AGENDA IS THE TIME FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS, SO THERE ARE ANY CITIZENS PRESENT WISHING TO SPEAK ON A NON AGENDA ITEM YOU HAVE UP TO FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK. ALRIGHT, NONE. WE WANT TO THE REPORT OF THE ADMINISTRATION[REPORT OF ADMINISTRATION]
. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE, UM, PER COUNSEL'S REQUEST ON SOME OF THE LOT COVERAGE ITEMS THEY ARE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH. COUNCIL UM, WE'VE HAD SOME IN DEPTH DISCUSSION ON THOSE, AND, UM, WE'RE MEETING WITH THREE MEMBERS TOMORROW JUST TO DISCUSS KIND OF WHAT SOME OF THOSE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WILL BE UM, SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THOSE OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING, I CAN MEET WITH YOU AND KIND OF GIVE AN UPDATE ON THAT THERE'S A MOSTLY FOCUSED ON SINGLE, FAMILY DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, UM, COUPLE AMENDMENTS TO THOSE OKAY? THANK YOU. ALRIGHT WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS. WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA. IT IS TO[1. To hear an application for a Planned Unit Development (PUD) Sketch Plan application for a development known as Marysville East Section 2 located at Parcels with ID numbers of 2800170430000, 2800210050000, 1100120010000.]
HEAR AN APPLICATION FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PD YOU SKETCH PLAN APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT. NOON AS MARYSVILLE EAST SECTION TWO. LOCATED AT PARCELS. I DID THEM WITH DIABETES WITH I D NUMBERS OF 2800170. 430000. TO 800 TO 1005000. AND 11001. AND THE AFRICAN HERE TWO PRESENTS HIS FIRST PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME ADDRESS, AND YOU HAVE THE FLOOR . UM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HEARING US TONIGHT. PART BARRACK ROCKFORD DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENTS ARE D I, UM I'VE GOT TO PULL UP MY SLIDE HERE. MY ADDRESS IS 5979. DUBLIN ROAD, DELAWARE, OHIO. MICROPHONE ON, DON'T THINK SO. OKAY, PICKUP PART.PUT THOSE ON AND OFF. UM TONIGHT IS THE SECOND PORTION OF THE ANNEXATION THAT WE'RE BRINGING INTO MARYSVILLE THAT, UM, I'VE GOT A SIGN HERE. ANNEXATION ONE. THIS WAS ABOUT 320 SOME ACRES.
WE BROUGHT THAT THROUGH. LAST MONTH. IT WAS APPROVED AT THE SKETCH PLAN AT PLANNING COMMISSION HERE. YOU CAN SEE HOW IT RELATES TO ANNEXATION TO. I THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD HISTORY TO SHOW HOW THE TO CONNECT AND THEN I'LL SHOW YOU THE SUB AREAS THAT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY CONNECT
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SO ANNEXATION TO IS ROUGHLY 300 OR 254 ACRES IS ACTUALLY BEING ANNEXED. THE ZONING PORTION THAT YOU'RE SEEING IS 237.3 THE DIFFERENCE. THERE IS ESSENTIALLY THE RIGHT AWAY IN ORDER TO GET THE MARYSVILLE CITY LYING. SO IF YOU SEE 33 THERE, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE A BOX THAT HAS SOME ADDITIONAL GROUND. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ZONING. SO WE'RE DOING A SMALLER AREA THAN THE ACTUAL ANNEXATION, BUT WE'VE GOT TO BRING THAT IN THROUGH THE ANNEXATION PROCESS. SO THIS IS THE REGIONAL SITE PLAN HERE SO YOU CAN SEE ESSENTIALLY TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS IS US 33 TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE ANNEXATION . ONE TO THE NORTH SIDE IS WALKING ROAD AND TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE EAST SIDE IS ACTUALLY WALKING WATKINS ROAD AGAIN BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW WHAT COUNTRY ROAD COMES THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN HEADS DOWN TO SCOTTS LAWN THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY BECAUSE I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT SUB AREA B . SO THE INNOVATION DISTRICT SUB AREA THAT WE BROUGHT THROUGH AS PART OF ANNEXATION ONE. THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF THE PURPLE THERE IT WAS 251 ACRES. UM THAT WE'RE BRINGING THROUGH TO ZONE AS AN INDUSTRIAL PARK. UM AND INNOVATION PARK. UM SO I'M SHOWING THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIVE SUB AREAS. BECAUSE THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE ENTIRE SUB AREA THAT WE'RE BRINGING THROUGH ON THE ANNEXATION, TOO. SO IT IS A CONCLUSION OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK WITH THE GROUND THAT WE HAVE IN CONTROL RIGHT NOW, UM, SO IT'S 237 ACRES. 237.3 ACRES. UM AND IT'S ALL ZONED ESSENTIALLY TO BE THE INNOVATION PARK. SO COMBINING THAT WITH THE SUB AREA B, WHICH IS THE INDUSTRIAL PORTION OF ANNEXATION ONE, WE WOULD HAVE ROUGHLY 488.3 ACRES BETWEEN THE TWO THAT IS OWNED IN WHAT IS CALLED SUB AREA B, WHICH IS THE INNOVATION PARK. FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THE USES THIS RESULT PRESENTED ABUSES HERE THEY WERE PROPOSING FOR THIS EXPANSION OF SUDBURY ABUSE EXACTLY THE SAME AS ANNEXATION.ONE I DECIDED TO PULL THESE OUT OF YOUR CODE. IT IS A COMBINATION OF ESSENTIALLY 1123.13, WHICH IS YOUR MANUFACTURING INNOVATION DISTRICT AND LIGHT MANUFACTURING DISTRICT, WHICH IS SECTION 1121. 0.14 OUT OF YOUR CODE IN THERE. I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE ITEMS READ THAT WE'VE EXCLUDED THAT WAS EXCLUDED FROM THE FIRST LANDING STATION IN THE SECOND. SO THESE ARE USES THAT WE DON'T CARE TO HAVE IN THIS INNOVATION AREA. RETAIL OBVIOUSLY, BUILDING MATERIALS AND HARDWARE. YOU'VE GOT LOADS ALREADY THERE, SO I MEAN, YOU DON'T NEED THEM IN HARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND IT'S THE INTENT OF THIS INNOVATION DISTRICT. IT'S NOT TO HAVE THOSE RETAIL FUNCTIONS IN THERE. WE REMOVED THE NURSERY. WE REMOVED ALL THE VEHICULAR SALES, AUTO BODIES THAT SORT OF SERVICE. BET ANNUAL HOSPITAL DOESN'T BELONG THERE AND WE'VE TAKEN THE EXTENDED STAY HOTEL AWAY. NOW THE FIVE BULLETS TO THE BOTTOM OR CONDITIONAL USES UNDER YOUR CURRENT CODE. UNDER THE INNOVATION WE ARE MAKING THOSE PERMITTED USE. SO I POINT THAT OUT ONLY BECAUSE I REMOVED THE CONDITIONAL USING THAT AND WE'RE MOVING UP, AND THAT'S REALLY BECAUSE OF SPEEDING MARKET FROM AN INNOVATION INDUSTRIAL STANDPOINT, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE UTILITY READY ZONING READY AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS IN ORDER TO COMPETE WITH NEW ALBANY WITH WEST JEFFERSON IN OHIO BATS GROSS CITY. UM AND THOSE OTHER AREAS. ON THE OTHER SIDE, WHICH IS PART OF THE ZONING. WE'VE ACCEPTED ALL THE ITEMS UNDER LIGHT MANUFACTURING . UM DATA PROCESSING AND CALL CENTERS ARE THERE ALREADY UNDER A PERMITTED USE UNDER THAT CODE , BUT WE'RE ADDING DATA CENTER. IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT USE. IT'S NOT A CALL CENTER WHERE YOU'RE TAKING PHONE CALLS, ETCETERA, ESSENTIALLY YOUR OWN SERVERS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS THROUGH A DATA CENTER. AND THOSE ARE SOME REALLY POPULAR ITEMS THAT ARE COMING INTO CENTRAL HIGH WITH INTEL AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AMAZON'S OUTFIT AMAZON FACEBOOK INTEL. THEY'VE ALL GOT DATA CENTERS IN CENTRAL HAVE NOW SO THAT IS ESSENTIALLY ALL THE ZONING. SO WE'RE USING THE MAJORITY OF YOUR TEXT IN ORDER TO FIND THIS AREA FROM THE USES. THAT MIGHT BE THE QUICKEST PRESENTATION I'VE EVER DONE. PERHAPS UM ALRIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE WARD? COULD YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE AND ENLARGE IT SO WE CAN READ IT? YEAH. OH MAYBE THIS WASN'T PART OF OUR THE PACKAGE WE RECEIVED WAS PART OF IT. WELL, THIS IS WHAT WE RECEIVED. OKAY, I'M SORRY. PEOPLE HERE. IT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'RE SEEING IT. YEAH. UM I'VE GOT TO ACTUALLY PULL IT. PULL IT BACK OVER. NOT SURE HOW TO DO THAT. WELL, THERE'S THE BUS SIGN RIGHT ABOVE. OKAY, I GUESS I CAN CONTROL IT. THERE WE GO. GOOD YES. THANK YOU. MY GLASSES.
I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ON AND OFF. ALRIGHT SO READ YOUR REMOVING FROM WE HAVE THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TEXAS ALREADY ALREADY BEEN RECEIVED. IN THE CONDITIONAL USES WAS
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STARTS WITH EXTENSIVE WHAT YOU'RE REMOVING IN THE PEW BELOW THAT LAST FOUR BULLETS ARE IDENTIFIED IN YOUR CODE IS CONDITIONAL USES, AND WE'RE PUTTING THOSE IN THE PERMITTED USES AS PART OF THIS PROCESS. WE NEED YOU MORE IF I WAS SITTING FURTHER BACK. I COULDN'T NO, THAT'S GOOD. I'M GOOD FROM HERE . ONE MORE TIME. BART THE LAST FIVE ARE GOING TO BE PERMITTED USES. CORRECT OKAY, SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT BECAUSE I HAD REMOVED IT FROM YOUR CODE.WHEN I WHEN I CREATED THIS, YOUR CODE ACTUALLY SHOWS PERMITTED USES AT THE TOP. AND THEN THE FINAL FIVE BULLETS DOWN. THERE ARE UNDER CONDITIONAL USES. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD WE ARE ASKING THOSE AS PART OF THE EU TAX TO BE APPROVED FROM A STANDPOINT OF A PERMITTED USE. EXCEPTION OF THE EXTENDED STAY HOTEL. HOTELS JUST NEED TO BE IN A RETAIL, NOT IN AN INDUSTRIAL INNOVATION PARK. ACTUALLY UM, I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE I HAVE NO ISSUE PERSONALLY WITH THE DATA CENTERS DO WE HAVE THESE ARE ANYWHERE BUT THEY'RE NOT OUR ZONING. OKAY. I MEAN, IT SEEMS IT SEEMS APPROPRIATE IN PARK IS CURRENTLY ZONED TO HAVE A CURRENTLY. YEAH. WHERE WAS ORIGINALLY GONNA GO? RIGHT? IT'S A USE MORE IN THE BUILDINGS ARE ESSENTIALLY AN INDUSTRIAL LOOKING BUILDINGS. YOU COULD CLAIM THAT IT'S A WAREHOUSE, BUT THE PROCESSING AND CALL CENTERS UNDER LIKE MANUFACTURING AND IN AFRICA, BUT NOT THAT'S CORRECT, AND WE LEFT THAT ON THERE. IT'S JUST THERE IS A DISTINCT EFFORTS BETWEEN DAVID CENTER PROCESSING OR DATA PROCESSING AND CALL CENTERS AND DAVID CENTERS. AND SO WHEN YOU DESCRIBE DATA CENTERS, IS THAT AN OCCUPIED BUILDING OR IS THAT JUST A COMPLETE PROCESSING CENTER? THAT IS THAT IS TAKING PLACE FOR COMPUTING POWER. IT IS OCCUPIED. THERE IS STAFF THAT'S USUALLY THEY'RE NOT AUTOMATED, BUT YOU USUALLY DO NOT HAVE LARGE AMOUNTS OF STAFF IN DATA CENTERS . SO IT IS A SCHOOL, UH, SCHOOL BOARD DREAM BECAUSE THEY USED TO SPEND 255 $100 MILLION IN A DATA CENTER. SO REAL ESTATE TAXES ARE HUGE FROM DAVID CENTER STANDPOINT, BUT FROM A CITY STANDPOINT. INCOME TAXES, USUALLY OR NOT, THERE IS THERE VERY LONG BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST THERE'S A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE. HIS DATA CENTER, SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD ADD ERBITUX IN ARIZONA CODE LIKE WHEN YOU CONSIDER ME DOWN THE ROAD. IN THAT, LIKE, MARK SAID, JUST THROUGHOUT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CONSIDER YEP. AND THAT WOULD BE A STANDALONE DATA CENTER. I MEAN, I WOULD EVENTUALLY GETS A LOT OF THE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS THAT YOU HAVE. SOME OF THEM HAVE FRAGMENTS OF DATA CENTERS IN THEM. BUT THESE ARE STANDARD ONE DATA CENTERS THAT WERE ACTUALLY TARGETING FROM PAKISTAN. GENERALLY I'M NOT CONCERNED BY AND MORE SO IT'S JUST ADDING SOME BURBAGE. THAT'S NOT DEFINED SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO THINK THROUGH. BUT. I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT DATA CENTERS ARE, BUT, YEAH. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE IT TO FIND. OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS CONCERNS. MR CHAIR. I HAVE A QUESTION. SO FAR. YOU HAD SAID THAT THANKS FOR GOING THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. BY THE WAY, YOU HAD SAID THAT THE BOTTOM FIVE POINTS ON THE LEFT ARE CONDITIONAL USES WITHIN THAT. ZONING TODAY. AND THEN DID YOU SAY ALSO THERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE ? THERE ARE CERTAIN ONES THAT ARE CONDITIONAL. CONDITIONAL USES UNDER LIGHT MANUFACTURING.
OKAY CODE DOES NOT UNDER, UM 11 , 21 14. YOU HAVE NO CONDITIONAL USES THEIR THE INTENT BEHIND MOVING THOSE CONDITIONAL USES TO PERMITTED. 10 GRAND FISHER. MAYBE YOU SAID IT AND JUST REPEAT IT, FOR MY SAKE. PERHAPS, BUT KIND OF WELL, WHAT'S THE INTENT IS SPEED TO MARKET. SO FROM AN INNOVATION STANDPOINT AND INDUSTRIAL STANDPOINT, WHEN YOU'RE MARKETING FACILITIES ON THAT STAND OR THAT YOU NEED TO BE SITE READY, AND SITE READY INCLUDES THAT YOU GOT WATER AND SEWER THAT YOU HAVE FIRE SERVICE. YOU HAVE THE SERVICES NECESSARY TO PERFORM AND SPEED.
THE MARKET IS ZONING. SO ESSENTIALLY, WITH THIS BEING AN OVERLAY TYPE OF FASHION HERE, COMING THROUGH WITH A P U D ZONING WOULD BE IN PLACE SO A CONDITIONAL USE COULD END UP CAUSING. YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE MEETINGS THAT MAY NEED TO GO. ACTUALLY YOUR CONDITIONAL USES NOW HAVE TO GO THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION, THEN ALSO THROUGH CITY COUNCIL, SO WE'RE JUST MOVING THOSE TO A PERMANENT USE. ESSENTIALLY, WE CAN TELL UH, USERS THAT WE ARE ZONED READY? WE ARE UTILITY READY AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE AT THAT POINT IN TIME? OKAY. THANK YOU.
AND MAYBE ANOTHER QUESTION AND IT'S A BIT BROAD. AND I DON'T KNOW WHO CAN ANSWER AT THIS
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MOMENT. BUT ARE THERE ANY OTHER? ZONING DISTRICTS THAT INCLUDE THOSE AS PERMITTED USES WITHIN OUR CITY CODE. DO WE KNOW GENERALLY, I UNDERSTAND, UH. PERSONAL STORAGE OR MANY WAREHOUSING TO BE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED CASE BY CASE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A BLANKET CONDITIONAL USE ACROSS ANY CERTAIN TYPES OF ZONING CODE OR NINE UH, THE LAST ONE THE PERSONAL STORAGE MINI STORAGE WHERE MANY WAREHOUSES ARE THERE ANY OTHER AREAS IN OUR ZONING CODE WHERE THAT TYPE OF THING IS JUST PERMITTED? OKAY? OKAY? I BELIEVE IT'S YOUR NEXT USE DISTRICTS.BECAUSE YEAH, ESCALATION. LIKE IN OTHER PDBS THAT WE HAVE, YEAH. BECAUSE THEY KNOW WITHIN THAT. AREA. THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH HAVING THOSE AS LIKE COKES POINT YEAH. BIRDS THEY ARE DARK, CONDITIONAL AREAS. UM, BUT I THINK THOSE THINGS. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM IT'S FOLLOWED TO MR HUNTER'S COMMENT WOULD. WHAT'S THE STICKING POINT ON WAREHOUSING AND IS IT THE PERSONAL MINI STORAGE? THAT YOU DON'T FORESEE AND INDUSTRIAL INVITE IN ENVIRONMENT OR WHERE ARE YOU QUESTIONING? THAT. WHY ARE WE BEING HUNG UP ON THAT? I GUESS YOU'RE TALKING TO ME.
YEAH. UH IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I'VE HEARD, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS WITH JUST AS FAR AS THE LAND USAGE AND I QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THE ROLE PLANNING COMMISSION TO EVALUATE THAT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, BUT I WANT TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND. KIND OF HOW THAT'S APPLIED THROUGHOUT OUR ENTIRE ZONING CODE. UM TO THIS CAGE THAT PROPOSAL. I MEAN, I QUESTIONED PERSONAL STORAGE. MANY WERE HOUSING, OBVIOUSLY, FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH IT. I WAS JUST QUESTIONING. WHAT WHY YOU SELECTED THAT? TO ME, THAT'S I DON'T KNOW. I WANT TO DEFEND ANYONE WHO OWNS A PERSONAL STORAGE, MANY BUSINESS OR WHATNOT, BUT IT'S PROPERTY THAT STANDS THERE STATIONARY. AND YOU KNOW PEOPLE STORE THINGS THERE. YOU DON'T REALLY SEE. PRODUCT COMING OUT OF THAT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. NATURALLY THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU KNOW, I STARTED TO THINK ABOUT. YEAH I WAS JUST THINKING, WAREHOUSING, LOGISTICS COMING IN AND OUT AS PART OF THE PROCESS, SO THAT'S WHERE I WAS JUST CURIOUS. THAT WAS IT WAS JUST CURIOUS. THAT'S RIGHT. WOULD YOU MIND? DO YOU HAVE AN OVERLAY OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THIS ? ABSOLUTELY. THIS THIS PARCEL SUCH ESSENTIALLY SITS IN THE INDUSTRIAL PEACE AND THEN FURTHER TO THE SOUTH. IT BORDERS WHAT YOU SHOW AS THE RETAIL COMMERCIAL PIECE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY ALREADY IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE PARCELS. SCOTT'S OWNS A BIG PIECE OF IT. THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER PARCELS IN THERE, BUT IT IS ACTUALLY SHOWN AS THE COMMERCIAL RETAIL. THERE'S A MANUFACTURING PIECE IN THERE. IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR YOUR ZONING THAT. I THINK YOU HAVE BUSINESS READING, BUSINESS, RESIDENTIAL, TRUE RETAIL AND THEN HEAVY MANUFACTURING IS WHAT ZONING CODE ACTUALLY IS. HARD FOR TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. IT HAS BEEN WRITTEN. THAT WOULD BE. UH WE'RE ONLY ADDING IT BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF YOUR CODE, SO IT'S NOT A TARGET MARKET THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TARGETING. SO, UM I WAS IN A DRAFT FOR MOVED HIGHER. WE
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CAN BETTER TO FIND THESE IN DEVELOPMENT PLAN IF YOU'D LIKE US TO TRANSPORTATION SERVICES WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT REMOVING IT BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY LIKE THESE EASILY GIST IX, ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS TRANSPORTATION SERVICES BY THE AUTOMATED TRUCKS THAT ARE RUNNING BETWEEN INDIANAPOLIS AND COLUMBUS, AND THEY'RE COMING IN, AND THEY'RE PUTTING THAT TECHNOLOGY TOGETHER. NOW THAT TECHNOLOGY PROBABLY FITS IN ONE OF THE INNOVATION, OTHER ITEMS AS WELL , BUT IT IS A TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. WHAT WE DON'T EXPECT HERE UNDER THE PASSAGE. MAJOR DISPATCH FACILITY. WE DON'T EXPECT YOU KNOW, CODY BUSSES START COMING HERE. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT IN THE INNOVATION PARK. UM BUT SOME OF THESE THINGS CAN BE DEFINED SO EXPANDING THE DEFINITION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO NARROW THOSE DEFINITIONS AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND FINAL TEXT LIKE GOD, WE CAN DO THAT. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THINK THE DEFINITION WITHIN THE MARYSVILLE CODE AND COMFORTABLE WITH THE PERSON DEFINITION 19 DOWN. WE CAN DEFINITELY BREAK THAT DOWN. WHAT'S THIS? YES, MA'AM. I UNDERSTAND YOUR YOUR WANT TO ADD THESE AS PERMITTED USES FOR THE SPEECH MARKET. I GET WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. BUT WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT HOW SOME OF THESE HAVE UNINTENDED. UM BUSINESSES THAT IT COULD INCLUDE , FOR EXAMPLE, TRANSPORTATIONS ON THERE, BUT YOU DON'T WANT KODA. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S 100% WHY WE LEAVE SOME OF THESE IN CONDITIONAL USES SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT CALL WHEN IT HAPPENS SO I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE ASKING TO MOVE ALL THESE TWO PERMITTED, BUT I THINK THERE COULD BE REASON TO STILL HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE LIST FOR THIS.THAT'S PART REQUEST. I THINK FROM THE STANDPOINT OF WE'D LIKE TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THIS.
I'M PERFECTLY FINE DISPATCH FACILITY. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GREATNESS AS TO WHAT THAT IS, AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR THAT TYPE OF A HUB IN THE INNOVATION PARK. SO I THINK THAT COULD GO BACK TO THE CONDITIONAL USE. IF YOU WANT RECYCLING CENTERS. THAT'S NOT OUR POINT, EITHER TRANSPORTATION SERVICES THAT WOULD BE ONE THAT I WOULD PROBABLY BE INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE IT'S PERMITTED USE AND THEN MANY STORAGE. I MEAN, IT'S UH, IT'S WAREHOUSING, COMMA PERSONAL, MANY STORIES. WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR THE SINGLE STORY. THESE ARE GOING TO BE A MULTI STORY BUILDINGS. I WOULD GO DOWN TO PLAYERS. THERE'S SOME STORAGE UNITS DOWN THERE THAT ARE AIR CONDITIONED THREE STORIES AND THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN APARTMENTS AND OTHER THINGS THAT USE THAT TYPE OF STORAGE. SO I THINK TRANSPORTATION SERVICES IF WE CAN MOVE THAT TO THE PERMITTED USE, AND IF WE WANT TO BRING BACK THE CONDITIONAL USE, I WOULD BE FINE WITH THE OTHER ITEMS THERE. SO I WAS SEARCHING AFTER ASHLEY'S COMMENT AND AT LEAST THE VERSION OF THE CODE THAT I HAVE. I DON'T SEE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. UM, LISTEN UNDER. AM I OKAY? UM AND SO I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION. I APOLOGIZE. I WAS DISTRACTED. WHAT IS TRANSPORTATION SERVICES? THAT WAS THE QUESTION THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR YOU GUYS TO DEFINE, BUT, UM, FROM THE CODE THAT I HAVE I PRINTED IT OFF ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO IN A BINDER. SO IF YOU'VE CHANGED THAT RECENTLY, THAT MIGHT BE WHY I'M NOT PICKING UP OKAY? WELL IF THE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES ISN'T IN YOUR CODE THAT I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT HERE, AND THE REASON BEING IS LOGISTICS OBVIOUSLY WENT INTO THE INNOVATION PARK AND WAS NOT A CONDITIONAL USE, SO THOSE TYPE OF THINGS WOULD EITHER BE IN THE INNOVATION, THE WAREHOUSE THAT MANUFACTURING THE EQUIPMENT THOSE TYPES OF CATEGORIES SO AS LONG AS I STOPPED BEING SINGLED OUT AS A SPECIFIC ITEM, OKAY, ELIMINATING OR LEAVING IT AS A CONDITIONAL USE FOR ALL THOSE ITEMS. UM YOU KNOW, I JUST WOULDN'T WANT TO GET DEFINED IN OUR CODE, SO AND THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE SO WE CAN PUT THE FIVE ITEMS THAT I HAVE BACK. IF WE'RE THE FOUR ITEMS, I DON'T NEED THE EXTENT TO SAY WE COULD PUT THOSE BACK AS A CONDITIONAL USE IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT. I IT SEEMS LIKE I THINK THERE'S CONSENSUS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. OKAY AND WE'RE REMOVING WITH WITH WITH THAT WE'RE REMOVING TRANSPORT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DEBATE AS TO WHAT TRANSPORTATION SERVICES PERFECT. THAT WOULD BE FINE. I'M GOOD. MR SIMMONS. OKAY UM, WITH THAT? OH YES. SURE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. HOW DO YOU DO? YOU HAVE PULLED UP. CAN YOU IF YOU DON'T MIND POINTING OUT THE AREA THAT WE'RE SURE MY LITTLE GREEN DOT DOESN'T WORK, SO YEAH, MOST OF THE YELLOW. THIS IS THE BORDER THERE AND THEN IT COMES. PROSECUTOR. IT ACTUALLY WAS HERE AND AN IMPORTANT IS READY AREA AND THEN THE PURPOSE. OKAY IT DOES LOOK LIKE. MAYBE TWO THIRDS
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OF THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE RESIDENTIAL ACCORDING TO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THAT CORRECT? IT COULD BE. IT'S HARD TO SEE WHAT THE YELLOW AND WHITE HAT CAN YOU ZOOM IN. IS THAT THE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THERE? NEIGHBORHOOD IS OUTSIDE EAST. RIGHT, BUT IN THAT AREA, OKAY? JUST FOR REFERENCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT THIS WOULD BE ALL LIKE MANUFACTURING. UH ZONING USES. UM YEAH, WE'RE EXPANDING. ESSENTIALLY A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOESN'T GO PARCEL BY PARCEL. SO ESSENTIALLY THE PURPLE IT WOULD BE HARD TO DEVELOP AN INDUSTRIAL PARK JUST IN THE PROPRIETARY. SO WE ARE EXPANDING THE PURPLE AREA ON THIS SIDE UP TO WATKINS ROAD. UM FROM THAT AND THEN RUNNING THE BORDER, AND THEN THE PIECE THAT WAS PURCHASED, WHICH IS SOUTH OF I THINK THAT'S CALLED BRAXTON MEADOWS. THE PARCEL TO THE SOUTH OF THAT IS ACTUALLY BEING IDENTIFIED AS INDUSTRIAL, TOO, AND THAT PEACE IS TO CONNECT TO WATKINS ROAD. TO THE POINT HERE FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE ROADWAY IS TO CREATE A BYPASS THAT GOES AROUND THAT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. YOU DIDN'T MENTION THAT I BELIEVE LAST MONTH WERE WORKING OBVIOUSLY WITH KYLE AND JEREMY ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND THE NUMBER ONE. I DON'T NEED A TRAFFIC STUDY TO TELL ME THAT WE CAN'T HAVE THE INDUSTRIAL USES GO THROUGH THAT COMMUNITY, SO WE ARE GOING TO CREATE A BYPASS THAT COMES FROM THE SOUTH AT COMMUNITY AND GOES TO THE WEST OF THAT COMMUNITY. AND THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST INFRASTRUCTURE PIECES THAT'S ACTUALLY PUT IN. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I BELIEVE YOU'D ALSO MENTIONED LAST MONTH TALKS WITH SCOTT SALON ABOUT THERAPIES OF PROPERTY, WHICH I THINK IS THAT THE RED AREA NOW IT IS RED AREA, HEADING FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM AS FAR AS USING THAT AS A THROUGH WAY TO TAX CISCO TIME. SO WE'RE CONTINUING DISCUSSION, BUT THERE ARE ANY IN MARYSVILLE AND THEY'RE ALREADY ZONED FROM THE SAME POINT OF THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL SO UM FROM HIS OWNING AND WE DON'T HAVE TO MODIFY THAT, BUT WE ARE HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM WITH THAT POTENTIALLY REPLACE ANY NEED TO ATTACH TO WHAT ROAD IS THAT RUNS NORTH WATKINS ROAD RUNS BOTH NORTH AND THEN ALSO TO THE WEST. YEAH IT MAKES A TURN THROUGH THAT THAT RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY SO WITH THAT, IF SCOTT SONG IS, YOU KNOW, WILLING TO WORK WITH A MEANS OF PASSING THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY WITH THAT NEGATE ANY NEED TO ATTACH TO WELCOMES ROAD NORTH OF THAT RED AREA. YES. SO AND THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT ON WHY WE PICKED UP THAT ONE PARCEL. IT WAS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS BEING DONE THROUGH THE TOWNSHIP. UM AND IT WASN'T BEING DONE VERY WELL. SO ESSENTIALLY THE UTILITIES FOR THAT THERE WERE 60 70 LOTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE DEVELOPED THERE. THE 1ST 20 ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CREEK ACTUALLY HAD THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN, BUT THEY CUT SOME CORNERS FROM THAT STANDPOINT, AND THEY HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY TO UTILIZE EXISTING UM, SEWER STATION, WHICH IS PART OF THAT COMMUNITY. THEY WERE ONLY ALLOWED TO USE 20 LOTS OF THAT. SO THEY WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY GOT UTILITIES FOR THE OTHER 50 OR SO, UM, BUT IN PUTTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEY DID SOMETHING CALLED HANG THE SEWER, MEANING THAT THE DEPTH OF THE SEWER PUMP STATION THAT IS THERE IS LESS THAN AN 8. FT BASEMENTS OR ANYBODY WITH A BASEMENT WOULD HAVE HAD TO PUMP OUT OF THEIR HOUSE INTO IT. IT'S CALLED HUNG SEWER, SO WE PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY WITH THE INTENT OF NOT DOING THAT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, SO WE'RE ESSENTIALLY GOING TO RIP OUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS PUT IN AND THERE WON'T BE RESIDENTIAL THERE. UM, AND THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THIS ANNEXATION COMING INTO MARYSVILLE. IT DOES PROVIDE US AN ACCESS POINT TO WALK AND DRINK. IT DOES PROVIDE AN ACCESS POINT TO WALK INS ROAD. UM BUT AGAIN, THAT'S ONE ACCESS POINT WHERE WORKING WITH JEREMY TO DETERMINE WHERE AND KYLE TO DETERMINE WHERE THEY ACTUALLY WENT THAT ROAD TO GO, SO WHETHER THE ROAD GOES THROUGH THAT PARCEL OR THROUGH SOME OTHER PARCEL THAT'LL BE UP TO THE ENGINEERS. IS THAT YOU GUYS, DON'T HMM. ACTIONS RELATED TO TRAVEL. LOOKING AT IT. PROJECT WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU ARE IN THAT? ARE YOU JUST BEGINNING? IS THIS PRETTY FAR ALONG? TRAFFIC STUDY WHERE HE IS AT WE WERE FINISHING UP THE DATA COLLECTION . SO DURING SCHOOL SEASON, WE COLLECTED ALL THE DATA POINTS FOR US, 36 AND 33. SO ALL OF THE NORTHERN PORTIONS OF GETTING TO WALK INS ROAD TO THE SOUTH. WE COLLECTED ALL THOSE DATA POINTS AND THEY'RE BEING ANALYZED. RIGHT NOW. WE'VE USED THE MORE PROJECTIONS THAT THEY PROVIDE, AND THEY PROVIDE GROWTH RATES ETCETERA IN THERE, USING THE DENSITIES THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING WITH THEM IN ORDER TO MODEL THAT OUT. NOW THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS GOIO BE A 15 TO 20 YEAR PLAN, BUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY WILL BE MORE FOCUSED ON WHAT IS NEEDED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. MHM. GORDON. NO MORE QUESTIONS, ALL RIGHT. SO THAT WE WOKEN UP[00:30:12]
TO CITIZEN COMMENTS SO, AND CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM YOU HAVE UP TO FIVE MINUTES. UM WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LARRY MOREY. I LIVE IN BUXTON MEADOWS AND ON HITTING MILL ROAD. THE PROPERTY THAT IS IN YOUR ADDRESS, SIR. YOUR YOUR ADDRESS 140 TO 0 HITTING MILL ROAD PROPERTY IN THIS AREA JUST BELOW, UH, BUXTON MEADOWS OFF OXFORD ROAD. IS A KNOWN FLOOD AREA. THREE ATTEMPTS HAVE BEEN MADE TO PUT A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN THERE. THEY'VE ALL FLOODED OUT. I'M WONDERING WHEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY REVIEW FOR FLOODING WELLS, UH LARGE AND SMALL ANIMAL HABITAT. AND OTHER FLOODPLAIN ISSUES ARE GOING TO BE A IS GOING TO BE COMPLETED, AND WILL THE PUBLIC BE ABLE TO SEE THAT ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY STUDY? UM OKAY. KICK THAT OVER TO YOU, UM, CREATE THE PROCESS AND YEAH. LAST WEEK COMPLETED BEFORE AND THE YEAR PLAN. LITTLE PROCESS. HAS THE RIGHT TO BE MORE OF THOSE TRYING TO KICK IN, OKAY? AND THAT DOCUMENTATION IS PUBLIC. YEAH. BECAUSE BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE VERY WORRIED ABOUT THAT ONE AREA BEING FLOODED, AND WE'VE ALREADY HAVING PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE IN OXFORD ROAD, HAVING BASEMENTS FLOODED AND SEWAGE BACKING UP INTO THOSE BASEMENTS THAT BUILDING AN INDUSTRIAL AREA JUST SOUTH OF US IS GOING TO MAKE THAT THAT PROBLEM EVEN WORSE THAN THOSE HOMES. SO IF YOU HAVE BEING ABLE TO SEE THAT STUDY WOULD BE HELPFUL. APPRECIATE, SIR. ANY OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK . OH SORRY, SEAN, AND I FORGOT TO CLARIFY. UM MISS ROSE REMINDED ME. UM ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS WE WILL WRITE THEM DOWN AND AT THE END, OR ALL THAT PART STRESSED THEM. THIS ONE. I JUST FIGURED THE CITY COULD ADDRESS QUICKLY. SO YES, MA'AM, IS 13630 WATKINS. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION . MAYBE I'M LATE TO THE PARTY. I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING. UM IF THIS PARCEL IN PARTICULAR THAT WAS JUST PURCHASED. IF IT'S SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL, WHY ARE WE TRYING TO BRING IN MANUFACTURING TO IT? IT'S GOING TO AFFECT ALL OF THE PROPERTY VALUES AROUND THERE. IT'S GOING TO AFFECT ALL OF THE SAFETY. AND I JUST I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD IF IT'S GOING TO BE A MIXED USE. GRAND PLAN. WHY NOT MAKE THAT THE RESIDENTIAL SPACE? OKAY? UM WELL , LET A BART ADDRESS THAT AFTER A CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES MA'AM JENKINS 14 TO 4 TO OXFORD DRIVE . WE WERE MAILED AND RATHER LENGTHY PACKET OF INFORMATION. AND SO I DO HAVE SOME, UM, CONCERNS ABOUT ON CERTAIN PAGES OF THE APPLICATION IF I MAY GO THROUGH THOSE QUICKLY, UM, I THINK I CAN GET THIS DONE AND WELL UNDER FIVE MINUTES, BUT FIRST, I'D LIKE TO SHARE, UH, TO THANK THE DOVER TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SPECIFICALLY DAN WESTLAKE, WHO'S HERE TONIGHT HAS BEEN HELPING WITH A COUPLE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I THINK THAT WE'RE A BETTER PLACE FOR THEM. THANK YOU, DAN. UM I WANT TO START RIGHT AWAY WITH THE ROADS AND SUB AREA B AND I WILL SHOW YOU WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. IN SUB AREA B. IS THERE AN ENTRANCE OR AN EXIT OFF WATKINS, JUST SOUTH OF BUXTON MEADOWS. I THINK THAT'S THE PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT WAS THE ONE JUST PURCHASED BY MR LEE. AND EVIDENTLY NOW BY R. D I SO, UM, THAT IS GOING TO BE A MESS IN THAT AREA. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A COMPLETE AH, REDO OF THE ROAD. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE A, UM UH, A TURN LANE PUT IN ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF BUFFER, AND THAT THAT'S MY CONCERN. NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT SCOTS IS NOT WILLING TO SELL THE LAND BECAUSE IT CONTAINS THEIR SECONDARY WATER SUPPLY IN THAT AREA. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH SCOTT'S IS GOING TO BE WILLING TO NEGOTIATE, UM, WITH WITH OUR D, BUT THAT'S WHY I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY PROBABLY HAVE TO COME UP WATKINS ROAD NOW BECAUSE SCOTS, THAT AREA IS NOT AVAILABLE THAT AND SO MY CONCERN IS RIGHT. IT'S KIND OF HARD TO[00:35:05]
SEE. BUT IT'S RIGHT HERE WHERE I'M TALKING ABOUT HAVING THAT ROAD. UH YES, SO IT WOULD BE RIGHT. HERE I THINK RIGHT IN THERE AND GOING BACK TO THIS, OKAY, THAT'S EXACTLY IT. THANK THANK YOU. THE SECOND ONE IS AGAIN ABOUT MAIN ACCESS POINTS. ON THE FIFTH PARAGRAPH, IT SAYS THE EXISTING PARCELS ARE ZONED AS FARM RESIDENTIAL YOU ONE, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED PARCELS OF LAND. MAIN ACCESS POINTS TO THE PROPOSED SITE WILL BE OFF WATKINS ROAD NOW DOES THIS MEAN SOUTH OF BRAXTON MEADOWS OR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BUXTON'S MEADOWS CLOSEST TO MARYSVILLE? I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS. UH THAT WAS JUST A LITTLE CONFUSING FOR ME IN THAT PARAGRAPH. UM AGAIN, YOU'LL HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT THAT, IF, IN FACT THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THAT IN ORDER FOR THE TRAFFIC THAT WILL GO TO US 36 FOR THE MULTI STORY HOUSING. THE INDUSTRIAL TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE COMING OFF ON SCOTT'S LONG ROAD. THAT'S THE THAT'S THE IDEA . AND, UM YOU KNOW, SCOTT'S JUST BUILT A HUGE NEW UM, LISA. WELL, THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE LEASING A FACILITY ON INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY . I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE HAPPY TO SEE IF THEIR TRUCKS SITTING OFF THE FREEWAY AND WAITING FOR ALL THIS TRAFFIC TO COME ON AND COME OFF, SO IT'S JUST AN IDEA. WE ALSO YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT BE LIKE ROUTE 42 AT 33 USED TO BE AND POST ROAD WHERE YOU WERE BASICALLY SITTING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, HOPING SOMEBODY WOULDN'T HIT YOU FROM BEHIND NOW. OF COURSE, THEY'RE REDOING THAT, BUT IT'S A IT'S AN IMPORTANT, UM, QUESTION NUMBER THREE IS AH! UM LET'S SEE THAT SAYS THE INDUSTRIAL USES WOULD BE BEST POSITIONED TO THE SOUTH AND WILL UTILIZE SCOTTS LAWN AS A PRIMARY ACCESS POINT TO REDUCE TRUCK TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION TO THE NORTH AND U S. 36. THAT'S BOXED IN MEADOWS. NUMBER FOUR.HOW AM I DOING FOR TIME? OKAY YOU GOT ONE MINUTE, OKAY? I WANT TO GO REAL QUICK. UM I CAN ASK THESE QUESTIONS LATER. UM HAS HAS THE FOOTY DONE ANY BUSINESS OR R D I OR THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY BEFORE? I THINK, IS IT JUST A NEW? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS NEW TO US IS THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE. IS THAT SOMETHING? UM THAT IS. IT'S JUST I GUESS I CAN'T EXPLAIN IT. I ALSO THINK THAT YOU SHOULD KEEP THE BUILDINGS AT 85 FT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A SLIPPERY SLOPE OTHERWISE, AND THE LAST THING I KNOW SOMEONE WILL TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU ALREADY KNOW ABOUT THIS DATA CENTER. BECAUSE YOU ARE E IS A COOPERATIVE AND I UNDERSTAND DATA CENTERS. ALSO USE ABOUT 500,000 GALLONS OF WATER A DAY.
AS THE CITY PREPARED FOR THAT. SORRY THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME. YEAH. WORDS. NO, IT DOES NOT MATTER. THAT'S YOUR LAPTOP. GO BACK. GOOD EVENING. I AM. MICHAEL TOTTER, DALE 13660 WATKINS ROAD, SO I AM RIGHT.
HERE. UM SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS. THERE WAS ONE IMAGE THAT WAS SHOWING A PURPLE AND YELLOW KIND OF AREA AND IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS TAKING OVER MY HOUSE FOR, UM FOR PURPLE INDUSTRIAL USE. IT WAS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. PROBABLY YEAH, IT WAS THAT THAT WAS JUST IT'S JUST GENERAL. IT'S RIGHT. IT'S GENERAL. HOWEVER I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS WHEN MY HOME IS BEING THOUGHT OF AS BEING TAKEN OVER FOR INDUSTRIAL USE. UH POTENTIAL IS THAT'S FINE.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A PROCESS THAT COMMUNITIES GO THROUGH TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE AND WHAT THE VISION OF THE COMMUNITY LOOKS LIKE IN THE FUTURE, SO IT'S A VISIONING PROCESS. UM SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF A GUY IN MY AREA. MY HOME AS INDUSTRIAL USE, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT JUST LOOKS KINDA HOLISTICALLY , AND IT'S NOT SPECIFIC PARK PARCELS. THAT'S WHY WHEN BART
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WAS KIND OF EXPLAINING TO MR FISHER LIKE, WELL THOSE AREAS THAT ARE SHOWN IN YELLOW OR PURPLE, THOSE SIZES OF THOSE CAN VARY, SO IT'S NOT PARCEL SPECIFIC WHEN YOU'RE GETTING INTO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UNDERSTAND, APPLIES THE CLOCK DURING THE EXPLANATION THAT UM.RIGHT NOW. THAT AREA IS CURRENTLY AS WHAT WE'VE ALL SAID , IS A ROYAL, UM, FARMLAND AREA . WE MOVED THERE BECAUSE OF THAT, AND WE MOVED THERE BECAUSE IT'S QUIET. IT'S OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE, AND NOW IT'S GOING TO BE A SOMEPLACE IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BRING DOWN PROPERTY VALUE MY OPINION AND IT'S NOT SOMEPLACE THAT I THINK I WANT TO LIVE IN. UM WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE, UM AH, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT CITY LIMITS. WILL THAT CHANGE AT ALL? UH BECAUSE WE'RE CURRENTLY OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS ALWAYS KIND OF WONDERING IF THAT WAS GOING TO BE RESHAPED OR NOT. ONLY THE PROPERTY AT HAND IS REQUESTING TO BE ANNEXED THE CITY WALNUT ANNEX ANY PROPERTY THAT THE OWNERS DO NOT REQUEST. OKAY, WONDERFUL. SO YOU YOU DON'T WANNA BE IN THE CITY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO JUST DECLARE THAT THANK YOU. I LIKE THE CITY. JUST YEAH . UM UH, THE CONCERN ABOUT THE WATER TABLE, I THINK IS REAL. UM WHEN OTHER UM, BUT WHEN HONDA AND WHEN SCOTT'S MOVED IN, I HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR 30 PLUS YEARS AND HE SAYS THAT HE DEFINITELY LIKE NOTICED A BIG CHANGE IN THE WATER TABLE. AND IF IT TURNS INTO A DATA CENTER OR ANYTHING ELSE, I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, UM AND, UM, I ALSO HAD SOME ADDITIONAL CONCERNS FROM MR HUNTER ABOUT HAVING, UM , LIKE A SELF STORAGE. I DON'T KNOW. IT'S JUST WHEN YOU'RE OUT IN RURAL FARMLAND. IT'S JUST KIND OF BRINGS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CONNOTATION. UM I WAS HOPEFUL ALSO THAT AS I WAS LOOKING THROUGH SOME OF THE SUB AREA A UP AND THROUGH HERE THAT, UM, THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE SOME LIKE MIXED, UM, LIKE RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL WITH SOME AREAS FOR UM I LIKE GREENERY, TREES, GRASS, ETCETERA. I WAS HOPING TO HAVE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ALSO BROUGHT INTO THIS AREA AS WELL. WHEN I LOOK ACROSS THE STREET FROM HERE AND WHEN AND WHEN. OTHER BROXTON UM HOMES WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING OUTSIDE OF THEIR BACK WINDOW. THEY DON'T WANT TO BE SEEING. LIGHT LIKE MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIAL. THEY'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING GREEN. I WOULD ASSUME SO. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
DOUG JENKINS, 14 TO 4 TO OXFORD DRIVE. KIND OF TALKING ABOUT LARISSA EARLIER STATEMENT ABOUT WATER. UM I'VE BEEN IN BUXTON MEADOWS FOR 34 YEARS. UM WATER IS A CONCERN. WE INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY INTO BUILDING A DITCH BACK IN 1990 BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WAS COMING OFF THESE FIELDS. TO DIVERT AS HE INDICATED, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF HOUSES HAD WATER AND MINE WAS ONE OF THOSE AS WELL. AND THE DITCHES PROVEN THE SELF NUMEROUS TIMES OVER THE PAST 10 TO 3 DECADES. AND MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS WITHOUT THE APPROPRIATE STUDIES. YOU KNOW, WE COULD BE RIGHT BACK INTO AN AREA WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ONCE AGAIN BEING FLOODED BECAUSE OF, UM THE INCORRECT VERSION OF THE WATER TAKING PLACE. SO I DEFINITELY WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT AND GO ON RECORD THAT YOU KNOW IT IS A CONCERN OF THE RESIDENTS. BAXTER MEADOWS. YOU KNOW, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO PROTECT OUR HOUSES, MAKING BEAUTIFIED COMMUNITY LAST TIME. WHY DID IT TAKE A STEP BACKWARDS? THE OTHER THING IS ON THE BACK PHASES. YOUR APPLICATION WAS A BUNCH OF DEADLINES. ARE THESE PRETTY MUCH SET IN PLACE? UM AND WE'RE JUST OUR REGULAR SCHEDULE. SORRY THAT'S JUST OUR MONTHLY MEETINGS . THIS MONTHLY OKAY? SO FROM AN APPLICATION DEADLINE STANDPOINT , HOW DO WE AS, UM, CONCERNED CITIZENS KNOW WHEN CERTAIN THINGS HAVE TO BE FILED BY THE PARTICULAR COMPANY. AH YES, APPLICATION DEADLINES ARE 21 DAYS AHEAD OF THE MEETING DATE.
UM AND THEN THE PACKETS GO OUT TO THE BOARD MEMBERS AND NOTICES GET SENT OUT TO RESIDENTS.
PACKETS GO OUT SEVEN DAYS AHEAD OF THE MEETING. OKAY WHEN YOU SAY RESIDENTS IS THE YOU KNOW,
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CERTAIN RESIDENTS NOTIFIED OF THIS IN THIS SITUATION, IT WOULD BE ANYONE CAN ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY AND DISCUSSION HERE. JUST SAY ONE MORE TIME, PLEASE. ANYONE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES WOULD GET NOTIFIED OF THAT WASN'T BUT OBVIOUSLY I'M IMPACTED A ROUNDABOUT WAY, SO I NEED TO RELY ON MY NEIGHBORS TO INFORM ME OF WHEN THEY GET THERE ALSO BE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AS WELL. SO ALL MEETING AGENDAS AND PACKETS ARE ON THERE, TOO. VERY GOOD. OKAY, I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER. THANK YOU . BEFORE YOU STEP AWAY. I JUST WANT TO JUST ONE OF THEM, SO I KNEW WE COULD, UM, THE, UH, STUDIES FOR STORMWATER RETENTION . IT IS A CITY REQUIREMENTS. SO THOSE STORIES WALKER. UM ALSO, CITY REQUIREMENT IS THAT, UM, FOR MY EDUCATION? HOW DO THEY DO THEIR STUDIES? CIVIL ENGINEER? OKAY WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PUBLIC ADDRESS WHEN IT GETS BACK TO BIRDS? I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S AN ISSUE WHEN WE HAVE TORRENTIAL RAINS, SO YOU KNOW, DO THEY SIT THERE MEASURE ON AFTER AND IT'S A RAIN, WHICH IS NOT AN IMPACT.OR DO THEY MEASURE ON SOMETHING THAT NEW YORK CITY SASQUATCH THIS PAST WEEKEND 100 YEAR PEAK? I KNOW THAT'S ALL STORM SYSTEMS IN THE BUILDINGS SIZED SO I MEAN, IT'S THREE INCHES AN HOUR, WHICH WE NEVER GET THREE INCHES AN HOUR. THAT'S THAT'S MY GUESTS CAME FROM FROM A BUILDING STANDPOINT, PARKING ADDRESS IT WHEN WE GET BACK TO HIM, OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
TIFFANY HILL, 14192 OXFORD DRIVE. UM. SORT OF LATE TO THE GAME. SOME APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
SO THE THIS WHOLE I'M SO SHORT. OH AREAS THERE, THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE INDUSTRIAL IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING LIKE? THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL. I BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS WHAT WE SAW. YES YES. SO HAVE WE DONE LIKE NOISE STUDIES. LIKE WHAT'S THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? IS IT GOING TO BE 24 7? THERE'S GOING TO BE TRUCKS AND PEOPLE AND NOISE AND LIGHTS AND ALL OF THAT. I WORK FROM HOME, SO I'M LIKE. SORT OF RIGHT ACROSS. I LOOK OUT MY OFFICE WINDOW. I SEE FIELD. HOUSE AND THEN FEELS. SO I DON'T IF THERE'S A LOT OF NOISE THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT HOW I CAN WORK. UM ALSO, IF THERE'S A LOT OF LIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO GET BLACKOUT CURTAINS. I LIVED IN THE CITY. LIGHTS ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T TURN OFF. SO YOU HAVE TO GET BLACKOUT CURTAINS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A DECENT NIGHT'S SLEEP. UM AND. SAFETY WISE LIKE. ARE THEY GOING TO BUILD A FENCE SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T JUST WANDER INTO OUR BACKYARDS. BECAUSE THERE'S BUSINESS THERE. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY THAT IS. UM. SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS I WOULD PREFER IF IT'S RESIDENTIAL OR A PARK. THEN JUST HAVING A WHOLE BUNCH OF BUILDINGS THERE. HAVING A LOT OF NOISE. UM WE DO HAVE WILDLIFE THAT I LOVE TO SEE I LIKE THE WOODS. UM SO YEAH, I DIDN'T. I LIKE LIVING IN THE COUNTRY. TRUE YEAH, I'M NOT AGAINST, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT. BUT WHEN YOU ALREADY HAVE A RESIDENTIAL AREA , THERE DOESN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE TO PUT INDUSTRY BAM RIGHT BEHIND IT. AND THEN OUR HOUSING. OUR PROPERTY AND ALL THAT, LIKE MY PARENTS ALREADY SAYING IF THAT GOES INDUSTRY, THEY'RE MOVING. BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT IT. SO THE ONE THING I'LL ADDRESS WHILE YOU'RE THERE, AND THE LIGHTING, AT LEAST DISCUSS, UM OUR ZONING CODE DOES REQUIRE THERE IS A LIGHTING STUDY DONE THERE. IT'S A MINIMAL OR ZERO. EVERY LIGHTS BLEED FROM EACH PROPERTY ONTO OTHER PROPERTIES, SO THERE WILL NOT BE, YOU KNOW, SPOTLIGHTS SHINING OUT. ZERO. NOW THAT'S NOT TO SAY ABOUT YOUR VEHICLE HEADLIGHTS. THAT'S THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THAT, AS FAR AS PULL LIGHTS ON A PROPERTY WOULD NOT BELIEVE OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY . OKAY WHAT ABOUT THE NOISE STUDY? IS THAT GETTING DONE HAVE A SECTION OF THE ZONING CODE THAT TALKS ABOUT NOISE AND CERTAIN DECIBEL, YOU KNOW REQUIREMENTS SO THEY WOULD NEED TO MEET THAT AS WELL. OKAY? THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME, LARRY MOREY 14TH AND I'M ALLOWED A SECOND QUESTION. I BELIEVE YOU STILL HAD TIME LEFT. SO YES,
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VERY MORI 140 TO 0 HIT MILL ROAD. HAVE THE PEOPLE OF MARYSVILLE BEEN INFORMED OF THIS ? SHOULD THIS NOT BE A BALLOT ISSUE SINCE THAT IT'S GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF THE MARYSVILLE PROPERTY TAX MONEY, RAISED THEIR PROPERTY TAXES TO PUT THIS IN FROM THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IN SHOULDN'T THE PEOPLE OF MARYSVILLE BE ALLOWED TO VOTE ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO ANNEX? I MEAN, UH, THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO ANNEXATION IS NOT REQUIRED TO BE PUT UP TO A VOTE. I KNOW THERE IS A PROPERTY THAT THERE WAS A REFERENDUM. UM BUT IT IS NOW UP FOR A VOTE, BUT PER THE ZONING CODE. UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN VOTED, YOU KNOW, UPON, THEY ULTIMATELY APPROVED THE ANNEX. SO THE CITIZENS FOR THE CITIZENS FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS VOTE FOR ANNEXATION. IN OTHER WORDS, THE CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T ALLOW THE CITIZENS TO HAVE A BOAT OTHER THAN THIS MEETING INTO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE AREA OF THE CITY COUNCIL GETS VOTED UPON EVERY FOUR YEARS , SO THAT'S WHERE THE CITIZENS VOTE ON THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY. OKAY THANK YOU ALSO HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL WHEN IT COMES TO THEM, AND YOU CAN RAISE YOUR CONCERNS THEN BEFORE THEY VOTE. YEAH THIS ISN'T THE END ALL BE ALL MEANING ALSO, I GUESS I WOULD SAY THERE WERE THE VERY EARLY STAGES OF THIS. SO THERE'S BEEN, UM STATEMENT OF SERVICES FOR THE ANNEXATION BROUGHT THROUGH CITY COUNCIL COUNCIL, WHICH WAS PRIOR HAD BEEN TO THE TOWNSHIP AS WELL AS THE COUNTY BARK. CORRECT ME IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, BUT ACCOUNTING, ETC. SO THOSE HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY EACH OF THOSE ENTITIES. IT WAS BROUGHT TO CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHICH ALL CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE PUBLIC. UM THAT STATEMENT OF SERVICES WAS APPROVED. SO NOW THEY'RE ONTO THE SKETCH PLAN PHASE RIGHT NOW , SO THIS IS CALLED THE SKETCH PLAN, SO THEY JUST KIND OF OUTLINE THE PARCELS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT, AND MAYBE WHAT THOSE USES ARE WITHIN THEIR BUT THE DETAILS OF THE SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT SIDEWALKS ALL THOSE KIND OF DESIGN ELEMENTS AND SPECIFIC COMPANIES OR NOT. IN THIS STAGE YET SO THE NEXT STAGE IS CALLED THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WILL GET A LITTLE BIT OF A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO SOME OF THE ZONING CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS WHOLE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. UM AND ALSO AFTER THAT IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL SO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WILL GO ON TO CITY COUNCIL AGAIN OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TO COME AND PROVIDE YOUR COMMENTS AND THAT'S WHERE CITY COUNCIL WILL APPROVE OR DENY THIS PLAN. AND THEN FROM THERE, IT ACTUALLY WILL GO ON TO DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. SO EACH INDIVIDUAL, UM RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT MANUFACTURING WILL GO TO DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AND THAT'S WHERE WE'LL HASH OUT ALL THE LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPE AND THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING . SETBACKS BUFFERS. YEAH. HI I'M MICHELLE NICODEMUS. UM, IT'S BRUNSWICK. ON YOUR PAPERWORK. 14183 OXFORD DRIVE. UM THIS IS ME. RIGHT AROUND IN HERE SOMEWHERE. AS EMERGING TODAY. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE IDEALLY. POSSIBLY AROUND. I AM. LOOKING THROUGH SOME OF THE, UM, INFORMATION THEY PUT OUT AT THE BEAUTIFUL WORDS SUSTAIN THE QUALITY AND PROPERTY VALUES TO DEVELOPMENTS. UM WITH THE PROPER JUST TO MAKE EVERYTHING SEEM SO NICE AND BUFFERS WILL BE IN PLACE. UM I SAW ALSO WITH SOME OTHER PROPERTIES ARE MENTIONING MATURE TREE LINES. I HAVE PICTURES OF MY TREE LINES. I HAVE TWO TREES BETWEEN ME AND THIS FIELD, WHICH IS PROPOSED TO BE A ROAD. WHAT KIND OF BUFFERS ARE WE GOING TO HAVE AGAINST THIS ROAD AND THE NOISE COMING THROUGH? AND WHAT? HOW DOES THAT KEEP OUR PROPERTY VALUES? HOW IS THERE ANY ADVANTAGE TO THAT? ALSO AS FAR AS THE LIGHTING THE TIFFANY WAS TALKING ABOUT WE LIVE? I DON'T KNOW. A COUPLE OF MILES AWAY FROM SCOTTS LAWN. WE SEE THEIR LIGHTS. SO I DON'T I DON'T THINK SHE MEANT A SPOTLIGHT IN MY BACKYARD. I THINK SHE MEANT LIGHTS UP SURROUNDING THE SKY. I'M PRETTY SURE SHE DIDN'T MEAN YOU KNOW, PARKING LOT BITES. UM. I HAVE A FEW PROBLEMS WITH THE WORDING FOR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HE WAS MENTIONING, NOT OUR INTENTION AS FAR AS TRANSPORTATION THINGS. NOT OUR INTENTION CAN EASILY TURN INTO WEALTH. THAT WASN'T OUR INTENTION, BUT IT TURNED INTO I KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A BUS STOP. BUT YOU GUYS GET MY GIST. IF THERE IS AN INTENTION FOR THE SPOT, LET'S NAME THAT INTENTION[00:55:01]
AND NOT LEAVE IT OPEN FOR INTERPRETATION. THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT. THANK YOU. I WOULD AGREE AS FAR AS THE ATTENTIONS. I THINK THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE THAT WAS WHY WE ASKED ABOUT THE DISCUSSION, SO WE'VE TAKEN THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. I THINK I STILL HAVE A FEW MINUTES LEFT.SO DOUG JENKINS 14 TO 4 TO OXFORD DRIVE. QUESTION FOR THE COUNCIL HERE. WHAT IS THE MAIN DRIVER? WHAT DO YOU GET WHEN YOU PUT INDUSTRIAL PARK THAT FAR AWAY FROM THE CITY AND OFF THE INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY. I MEAN, THAT'S A QUESTION I HAVE WHAT? HOW YOU BENEFIT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE ONE GENTLEMAN SAYS, HEY, THE SCHOOL OF BENEFIT FROM A LOT OF MONEY, BUT YOU KNOW YOU WON'T GET TOO MUCH FROM THE WAY OF INCOME TAX. SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE DRIVER BEHIND PUTTING SOME TYPE OF INDUSTRIAL PARK SO CLOSE TO A RESIDENTIAL. YOU KNOW YOU'RE INVESTING IN ANNEXATION ONE. YOU'RE PUTTING OUT OF SINGLE MULTI FAMILY HOUSING IN THERE. THEN YOU'RE GONNA STUCK INDUSTRIAL PARK IN BETWEEN. ALREADY EXISTING RESIDENTIAL THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR UNGODLY LONG TIME. WHAT IS THE DRIVER BEHIND THAT? SHOULD I ADDRESS OR IS CITY? I MEAN, I WOULD SAY THAT THERE IS A DRIVER , A FISCAL DRIVER THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF AREA.
UM, UNDERSTAND THAT. IT'S SOME POINT. THERE IS A TRANSITION BETWEEN DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL TO OTHER, YOU KNOW, AND IT IS OURS AND DESIGN REVIEW BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ASSURE THAT THERE ARE BUFFERS BETWEEN, UM DIFFERENT ZONES. UM, SO I WOULDN'T SAY THAT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A BENEFIT OF PUTTING IT HERE. IT IS AN AREA THAT, UM UH , IT'S A LOT OF LAND AND, UM IT SEEMS TO THERE IS A NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF, UM, AREA FOR BUILDINGS LIKE THESE TO BE BUILT UP. YOU KIND OF BLOW OUT YOUR MAP THERE. THERE'S A HELL OF A LOT OF OTHER AREAS. THEY WERE NOT SO CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT RIGHT. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PLAN IS FOR SALE AND IT AND THAT'S NOT HARD DECISION ADJACENT TO THE CITY. THIS IS SO WHY IS IT WHY ADJACENT TO THE CITY SO IMPORTANT REPORTING UTILITIES AND EXTRA OF THE CITY AND HAVE THE PROPER UTILITIES. OKAY BOUNDARY LINE OF THE CITY IN ORDER TO ANNEX IN, UM, SO IF THEY WANT TO USE ANY CITY UTILITIES, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE PART OF THE CITY FOR THAT. I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT ONE OTHER THING. THIS WAS DESIGNATED AS THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT WHEN WAS IT DESIGNATED? THAT I CAN.
EVERYTHING WE SAW WAS RESIDENTIAL AND AGRICULTURE. SO WHEN WAS IT CHANGED WAS DONE IN 2018 2018 YOU DECIDE. SO THAT THAT JUST SHOWS THAT WAS THE MAP THAT WE HAD UP EARLIER THAT HAD THE PURPLE AS WELL AS SOME OF THE YELLOW. BUT THIS ACCESS POINT WASN'T SEEN. YEAH WHEN? WHEN YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY BOUNDARIES LIKE THAT. YOU'RE NOT . I UNDERSTAND NOT GETTING INTO THIS POINT WASN'T SEEN AS INDUSTRIAL WAS IT? IT WAS STILL COATED AS RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR RIGHT HERE. I THINK BART HAS A RESPONSE FOR THAT. WHEN WATSON MM YEAH. AFTER SUSAN COMMENTS, BAR WILL COME BACK UP. WE'LL TRY TO GET THROUGH IN GENERAL. THE COMMENTS QUESTIONS, OKAY. WAGE SOMETHING. ER 14293 OXFORD DRIVE. SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS JUST READING THE MATERIALS THAT I HAD, AND I BELIEVE MICHELLE SPOKE TO IT. SOME OF THE VERBIAGE ALLOW THE CREATION OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT RESPECT THAT UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS. NATIONAL QUALITY AND BEAUTY OF THE SITE AND THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY AND PROTECT THE COMMUNITIES NATURAL RESOURCES. SO WITH THAT, BURBAGE . A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE. I KNOW, UH HMM. THE LADY SPOKE TO THAT. WE ARE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF THIS. WHAT DOES THIS TIMELINE LOOK LIKE? ARE WE TALKING A YEAR? TWO YEARS, FIVE YEARS. AND TOOK COMPLETION. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE. IT IS MENTIONED IN YOUR PREVIOUS THAT THE RESIDENTIAL TO INDUSTRIAL COULD QUOTE HAVE A LARGER BUFFER . WHAT WILL THIS LOOK LIKE? AND HOW WILL RESIDENT HOWEVER RESIDENTIAL BE SUFFICIENTLY BUFFERED FROM MANUFACTURING? HOW WILL THIS INNOVATION AREA SUSTAINED THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND PROPERTY VALUES THAT THEY CLAIM THAT THEY WILL SUSTAIN FOR THE RESIDENTS OF BOXING MEDALS
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THAT HAVE STATED THAT ENHANCEMENT AND AMENITIES WILL BE PROVIDED THAT SUSTAINED QUALITY OF LIFE AND PROPERTY VALUES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY SURROUNDING THE PROPOSED EU DE PLEASE DESCRIBE. ALSO IN THE MATERIAL 5% MINIMUM ON COMMON OPEN SPACE WILLY 10% COMMON OPEN SPACE BE APPLIED TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IF IT IS INDEED PASSED. IT IS MENTIONED IN THE OBJECTIVES THAT UTILIZING NATURAL BUFFERS WILL BE PRESERVED. CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT EXISTING WOULD EXISTING WOODED AREAS WILL REMAIN INTACT? AND AS YOU KIND OF HINTED TOWARDS BEFORE ABOUT REVISED CODE ON WHAT WAS PROMOTED AND CONDITIONAL. CAN THE LIST OF POSSIBLE PERMITTED USES BE MODIFIED OR EXCLUSION TO BE APPLIED? DO THAT. I THINK IT'S CLEAR WITH THE ATTENDANCE HERE THAT IT IS A VERY SPECIAL COMMUNITY. I'VE ONLY BEEN THERE TWO YEARS. SO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME, I CAN'T BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY'RE FEELING. BUT AT TWO YEARS, I'M ALREADY PLANNING AN EXIT STRATEGY IF THIS GOES THROUGH AS WELL, UH, ANYTHING THAT THIS COUNCIL COULD DO TO PRESERVE THIS COMMUNITY WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE.NOT THE SHIRT. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW FEEL AND THIS IS WHERE THE THIS IS MY NATURAL WELCOME. THAT'S MY BATHROOM. THOSE ARE ON YOUR PROPERTY LINE OR OKAY, BUT THEY'RE YOUR TREES THREE QUARTERS. ONE SPEAKER. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? SIR. GOOD EVENING. DAVID YODER, 14053 OXFORD DRIVE . UM I WOULD LIKE TO START BY ECHOING EVERYONE'S SENTIMENTS AND EVERYONE'S CONCERNS SPECIFICALLY REGARDING THE WATER. THE BUFFER ZONES, PRESERVING THE AREA THAT IT'S THERE NOW AND ALSO THAT MY WIFE AND FAMILY AND I MOVED THERE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE LOCATION BEING OUTSIDE OF UM, THE BUSY AREA, SO WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BEING. CHANGED INTO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN LIVING THERE. UM I DO HAVE ONE SPECIFIC QUESTION REMAINING, I BELIEVE, AND THAT'S WHAT'S THE IDEA AS FAR AS TAX STRUCTURE FOR THIS ARE WE GIVING ANY SORT OF TAX BREAKS TO EITHER THE CONTRACTING FIRM OR ANY OF THE BUSINESSES THAT MAY BE GOING INTO THIS AREA? UM, TO TRY AND SPUR THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY HARM EITHER THE CITY OR THE SURROUNDING AREA IN THE LONG TERM. AND, UM IS THERE ANY SPECIFIC INDUSTRIES OR BUSINESSES THAT WE ARE TARGETING ? RIGHT NOW? I DO THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO SPECIFY IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE LIST THAT WE'RE GOING AFTER WE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THAT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, SIR. HYGIENE LITTLE 14449 WATKINS ROAD, AND WE ARE ONE OF THE FIVE HOUSES THAT'S AT THE TOP OF THIS 237 ACRE RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE, SO WE'RE RIGHT OUTSIDE BUCKS THE MEADOWS. WE'RE RIGHT OUTSIDE OF EVERYTHING. UM I WANT TO KNOW, UM AS THIS DEVELOPMENT OR POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS CONSIDERED. WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO FOR OUR UTILITIES. WE HAVE SPENT A FORTUNE ON A WELL AND HAVE TO CONSIDER POTENTIAL SEPTIC, UM, CHANGES IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SO DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE? I DON'T WANT TO SPEND $30,000 ON A SEPTIC SYSTEM TO FIND OUT IN FIVE YEARS THAT I HAVE TO HOOK INTO SOMETHING ELSE. UH, CAN YOU TRUST THAT YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO HOOK INTO CITY UTILITIES UNLESS YOU WERE TO ANNEX INTO THE CITY? AND YOU WOULDN'T BE AN EXTENT LIST. YOU REQUESTED IT. WOULD WE BE? WOULD IT BE OPTIONAL? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK TO ENGINEERING ABOUT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPTION TO DO THAT IF YOU'RE NOT WITHIN THAT WITHIN THE CITY BOUNDARY. OKAY PLEASE DON'T PUT A WAREHOUSE BEHIND MY HOUSE.
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HELLO MY NAME IS EDMUND LITTLE I LIVE AT 14449 WATKINS ROAD. WITH MY WIFE, JEANNE. AND I'M, AN AMATEUR RADIO OPERATOR AND WITH THE DEVELOPMENT WHETHER IT'S INDUSTRIAL OR RESIDENTIAL MY CONCERN IS WHAT WILL THAT HAVE AN EFFECT ON RADIO FREQUENCY INTERFERENCE FROM STUFF. THAT WOULD AFFECT THE AMATEUR RADIO BANDS. I'M ALSO INVOLVED IN EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS. AND IF . YOU CAN'T HEAR VERY WELL BECAUSE OF INTERFERENCE THAT WILL AFFECT EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS OVER THE AMATEUR RADIO BANDS. I KNOW THAT I. I'M NOT VERSATILE ENOUGH TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. PROBABLY SO WILL THERE BE ANY TYPE OF STUDY FOR THAT, OR I MEAN, WE TYPICALLY HAVE DONE A STUDY FOR AMATEUR RADIO TALK RADIO WAVES COMES A PROBLEM IN THE FCC. THANK YOU.IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD ANSWER, OKAY? DID YOU KNOW THAT OR OKAY? FCC.
AUDREY TOTTER, DALE 1366, SO WATKINS ROAD MY DRIVEWAY IS HERE . I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF CARS AND HEADLIGHTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN MY WINDOWS EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. THE ROAD HERE THAT IS A BUS STOP. I SEE BUSSES ALL DAY EVERY DAY. COME THROUGH THESE NEIGHBORHOODS . COME AROUND. HOW ARE WE GOING TO PROTECT THOSE KIDS FOR ALL TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING IN A TURN.
LANE IS NOT GOING TO FIX THAT. THAT IS MY CONCERN. I AM WORRIED ABOUT. YOU KNOW, MY HUSBAND ARE TRYING TO START A FAMILY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NURSERY THERE. IF I HAVE HEADLIGHTS IN MY WINDOWS AT ALL HOURS OF THE NINTH, HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANY SORT OF LIFE? THANK YOU. OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME. ALRIGHT. SEE NONE. BIRDS. UM. REALLY? YOU MAY HAVE YOUR OWN LIST. I ALSO HAVE A LIST OF SCRAMBLED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. SURE SO I SHOULD ALSO SAY CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED, SO ART WILL BE RESPONDING. BUT, UM RESPECTFUL OF HIS SPEAKING WE DO NOT WANT, YOU KNOW, UH, SIDE TALKS GOING ON IN THE BACKGROUND. WE'VE HAD THAT IN THE PAST AND BECOME DISRUPTIVE. OKAY LET ME YEAH. WHAT'S IT ACTUALLY, IS THIS BETTER? I'LL USE THIS. THIS ONE DOESN'T WORK VERY MUCH. SO I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS AND I WILL TRY TO ADDRESS WE'LL GO THROUGH YOUR LIST AND MY LIST HERE FIRST OFF. I WANT TO ADDRESS THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT THERE. SOUTH OF BUXTON. IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE ROAD. WE WILL NOT SET WHERE THE ROAD IS. SO THAT IS THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE ENGINEER'S OFFICE. IT COULD COME FURTHER, AND IT ACTUALLY WANTS TO COME FARTHER TO THE SOUTH ON WATKINS ROAD, BUT THOSE DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE RIGHT NOW. SO THERE IS NOTHING THAT SAYS THAT THERE IS A ROAD COMING OFF OF WATKINS ON THAT LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS PURCHASED FROM THE MARKS AND METAL DEVELOPMENT COMPANY. UM SO FROM FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THE ROAD HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED AND AGAIN, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE BEST ACCESS POINT. IF YOU'RE ASKING ME FROM AN OVERALL IN OUR DOCUMENT THAT WE PROVIDED WE DO WANT THERE'S SOME RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE TO THE NORTH AND CLOSER TO THE EXISTING APARTMENTS. UM WE DO WANT THAT TRAFFIC TO GO TO 36. SOME OF IT WILL COME DOWN THIS WAY. BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK AND THE INNOVATION PARK TRAFFIC. WE WANT THAT TRUCK THAT TRACK TRAFFIC. TO GO TO AND THAT BUSINESS TRAFFIC TO GO TO SCOTTS LAWN. BECAUSE IT'S AN UNDERUTILIZED INTERSECTION RIGHT NOW, SO WE ARE TRYING TO DO THAT. IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY IN THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT THE ENGINEERS WILL WORK WITH WILL DEFINE WHERE THAT ROAD IS AND WHERE THE BEST ACCESS POINTS ARE THAT PROCESS AS WELL DOWN THE ROAD, UM FROM A DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE, SOMEBODY HAD ASKED ABOUT THAT. THERE ARE NO UTILITIES TO ANY OF THE GROUND RIGHT NOW. SO ON THE LARGER MAP AND LET ME SEE IF I CAN GO BACK. UM WELL, A LONG WALK INS ROAD RIGHT AT THE APARTMENTS. THERE'S A PUMP STATION THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED. THAT IS WHERE THE SEWER IN THE WATER IS.
MARYSVILLE IS PUTTING RIGHT AT THE CORNER, SO THE UTILITIES NEED TO EXPAND ALL THE WAY DOWN THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY IN MARYSVILLE TO THE SOUTH. THERE THAT SCOTT ZONES AND SOME OTHER LANDOWNERS OWN. THEY ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY UTILITY, SO THE UTILITIES NEED TO EXPAND
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WOULD BE SUBMITTING WILL EXCEED THAT. SOMEBODY MENTIONED THE COMMON AREA AT 5% IF THAT'S IN THERE, IT'S ACTUALLY 10. WE'VE AGREED PART OF ANNEXATION ONE AT THE END OF THE INDUSTRIAL PEACE . I THINK THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PIECES OF CODE THAT I PICKED UP AND WE PICKED THE FIVE SO WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO MAKE THAT A 10% COMMON AREA, BUT WE EXPECT A GREAT LEAGUE SEED THAT ESPECIALLY IN THE AREAS AROUND THE BUXTON'S MET PRESIDENT PAXTON MEDAL RESIDENTS ON BOTH THE UM I GUESS WOULD BE THE LEFT SIDE AND THE SOUTH SIDE SO I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE EXTENSIVE BUFFERS THERE, WHICH WILL INCLUDE SOME MOUNTING WOULD INCLUDE TREES AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS WE WANT TO TRY TO PROTECT AS MUCH OF THE NATURAL HABITAT AND WE WON'T CLEAR PROPERTY LINES. SO WE'RE THE TREES THAT SHE MAY BE SHOWING THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER ON WHICH SIDE THOSE TREES THAT ARE. THERE WILL NOT BE COMING ALONG ALONG THE PROPERTY BORDER. UM NOW WE HAVEN'T EVALUATED THIS SET OF TREES RIGHT HERE. UM, BUT THERE WON'T BE A NEED TO TAKE THE WHOLE THING DOWN, IF ANY OF IT, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH THE ANALYSIS AND WE DO WATER ASSESSMENTS. WE DO TREE ASSESSMENTS. WE DO WETLANDS ASSESSMENTS. THAT'S ALL PART OF THE ENGINEERING PROCESS THAT'S MUCH, MUCH DOWN FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. ONE OF THE ONE OF THE SPEAKERS ACTUALLY ASKED ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE TIMELINE, SO WE'RE IN SKETCH PLAN RIGHT NOW. IN THE ANNEXATION PROCESS. THOSE THE ANNEXATION PROCESS WILL BE COMING BACK TO MARYSVILLE LATER THIS YEAR. THE NEXT STEP AFTER THE SKETCH PLAN IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THAT'S AT THE POINT IN TIME, YOU WILL SEE A THICKER DEFINITION OF USES OF TEXT OF LANDSCAPING OF ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS NOW WE WON'T SAY WE'RE THE ROADWAYS ARE GOING BUT WE'RE GOING TO SAY THAT THEY WILL BE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW AND WE ACTUALLY DON'T TROLL THAT SO WE WILL HELP DEFINE THAT BY BY TALKING TO JEREMY WHITE AND KYLE IN THE COUNTY ENGINEERS INVOLVED IN THIS AS WELL SO AND THEY WILL DEFINE THAT AS PART OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. UM AND TRUTHFULLY, YOU KNOW THAT LITTLE LEG THERE. I'D PREFER THAT THE ROADWAY NOT COME THROUGH THERE BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE BEST SOLUTION. BUT AGAIN, THOSE SOLUTIONS ARE YET TO BE DEFINED. BUT THE NEXT STEP IS THE DEVELOPMENT TAX WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHERE YOU'LL START TO SEE MORE OF THE TEXT, LANDSCAPING. WHAT'S OUR COMMON AREA? WHAT'S THE ROADS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THE ROADS ARE GONNA LOOK. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH YOUR OWN VILLAGE, THE MAIN PEOPLE MOVING ROADS. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TREE LINES. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE FENCES. UM WILL THE BUFFERS THAT ARE AROUND THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE FENCES? IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER AND AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS, I HAVE NO PROBLEM IF THERE'S SOME REPRESENTATIVES HERE, THAT KIND OF WANT TO TAKE MY NUMBER. I HAVE NO PROBLEM SITTING DOWN WITH THE RESIDENTS AND TO DEFINE THOSE ITEMS. WHAT IT WOULD MAKE BETTER. SO WE'VE DONE THAT IN A NUMBER OF SITUATIONS IN THE PAST, SO E P A FLOOD. LIKE I SAID, I'LL MAKE THE COMMITMENT THAT WILL SHARE THAT INFORMATION AND INCLUDE BOOKED OVER THIS PARCEL. THE DOVER PARIS LINE IS KIND OF RIGHT THERE. SO THIS ANNEXATION TO ACTUALLY TAKES A LITTLE BIT FROM BOTH. BUT WE WILL SHARE THOSE DOCUMENTS AND WORK WITH THEIR TRUSTEES, IF THEY'VE HELPED IN THE PAST, SO SOME OF THAT COMMUNICATION CAN COME THROUGH THOSE FOLKS. UM, HOLD ON HERE. GOTTA PUT MY GLASSES ON.UH, JUST ONE DID YOU HAVE ONE? UM YOU TOUCHED ON WATER SEWER STORM. WANNA MENTION YOU ARE A HAVE YOU TALKED TO ELECTRICAL? UM WE HAVE NOT. SO I TALKED TO YOU, ARI. ALL THE TIME ABOUT OTHER DEVELOPMENTS AND OTHER STUFF, BUT WE HAVE NOT. WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH THEM CERTAINLY SUGGEST ARE STARTING SOON, YOU KNOW? WELL THE I THINK THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE CONTEXT OF A DATA CENTER. WE DON'T KNOW IF THE DATA CENTER IS GOING TO GO HERE YET. SO FROM THE WATER AND THOSE, BUT THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED WHEN THE ACTUAL SO WE'RE IN THE ENTITLEMENT STAGE, WHICH IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TRYING TO GET THE ENTITLEMENT.
THE ZONING SO ONCE A USER IS FOUND THAT HAS TO COME BACK THROUGH MARYSVILLE AND NOT ONLY BACK TO THE DESIGN REVIEW TO APPROVE THE BUILDINGS, THE SITE PLAN, THE PARKING LOT, THE SETBACKS AND ALL THOSE SORT OF THINGS, BUT IT ALSO HAS TO GO THROUGH AN ENGINEERING PROCESS.
AND THAT IS WITH KYLE AND JEREMY BOTH, AND SOME OF IT MIGHT INVOLVE THE COUNTY ENGINEER AS WELL, BUT THAT ENGINE ENGINEERING PROCESSES SIGNIFICANT, SO IF A DATA CENTER IS COMING IN HERE A LOT OF THAT ENGINEERING WILL FOCUS ON WHERE'S THE ELECTRIC? WHERE'S THE WATER YOU KNOW, AND THE IMPACT ON THOSE SORT OF THINGS AND IF IT'S NOT THERE AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IF A DATA CENTER PULSE SO MUCH POWER, ETCETERA, THEN IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTED FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT. UM NOW I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT. BUT THIS IS MEANT TO BE AN INNOVATION PARK. SOMEBODY HAD MENTIONED THE NOISE. WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT. MAJOR MANUFACTURING WITH SMOKESTACKS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. THIS
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IS THE CODE THAT WE'RE DUPLICATING IS THE INNOVATION PARK AND THE LIGHT MANUFACTURING . SO FROM A NOISE STANDPOINT, I CAN'T PROMISE THAT THERE WILL BE SOME CAR NOISES GOING DOWN THE ROAD AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS, BUT I DON'T EXPECT A HUGE AMOUNT OF NOISE. NO THERE'S NOT A REQUIREMENT FROM A STUDY STANDPOINT, THAT I KNOW OF UM, BUT WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THAT WITH BUFFERS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, UM MY COLLEGE. YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS HERE. UM. RADIO I HAVE NO CLUE. SO I'VE BUILDING INTERFERENCE. HOW THAT AFFECTS YOUR AMATEUR RADIOS. UM BECAUSE I THINK HE WAS MENTIONED BY SEVERAL ABOUT EFFECTS. YES, SIR, COULD BE MORE OF A GENERAL EFFECTS. PROPERTY VALUES. UM WITH WITH SOMETHING OF THE SORT WEIRD. IT DEPENDS ON HOW THE BUFFERS ARE DONE, AND THAT'S THE INTENT IS WE DON'T WANT A DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND BRINGING IN HERE TO AFFECT PROPERTY VALUES IN A NEGATIVE WAY. WE EXPECT PROPERTY VALUES TO GO UP AS YOU DEVELOP THE EAST SIDE OF MARYSVILLE WITH A MIXED USE COMPONENT, WHICH HAS JOBS RESIDENTIAL RETAIL IN THOSE SORT OF THINGS. THEY WILL DRIVE REVENUES AND ALL THE THREE CATEGORIES IN THE BUCKETS, SO REAL ESTATE TAXES FOR THE SCHOOLS AND SOME OF THE OTHER SERVICES INCOME TAXES FOR THE CITY, WHICH PROVIDES, YOU KNOW THE BASIC SERVICES, POLICE FIRE AND SNOW REMOVAL AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS WATER AND SEWER AS WELL. AND THEN, UM, SALES TAX GOES TO THE COUNTY. SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THIS BEING A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AS WE PUT PIECES TOGETHER, AND I APOLOGIZE THAT IT'S COMING IN IN PIECES, BUT THE ANNEXATION MAXIMUM IS 500 ACRES, SO ANNEXATION ONE AND TWO. I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE BROUGHT THOSE THROUGH THE WHOLE TIME. BUT IT WOULD HAVE EXCEEDED THE 500 ACRES. SO YOU HAVE TO DO THIS IN PIECES. FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE ROADWAY. THERE WAS A LADY THAT HAD TALKED ABOUT THE INTENSIVE SCOTS. WE ARE HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH SCOTS AND I WOULD KNOCK HIGH, CLARIFY OR CATEGORIZE SCOTT'S UNWILLINGNESS TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. SO, UM THEY UNDERSTAND THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE EAST SIDE, AND THEY UNDERSTAND THE CRITICAL NATURE OF THEIR PIECES AND PARTS. UM BUT THEY ARE ENGAGED. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY ARE FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT, BUT THEY ARE DEFINITELY ENGAGED IN THE DISCUSSION. UM I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR PROBABLY MORE THAN 18 MONTHS AND I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THEIR, UM , HEAD OF COMMUNICATIONS, AND, UM, THEIR HEAD OF CORPORATE REAL ESTATE. UM I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER THAT SOMEONE DID MENTION, UM, TAX BREAKS DOWN. IF THAT'S ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED OR DECIDED, OR NOTHING HAS BEEN DECIDED. SO WE ARE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE WHEN YOU BRING A DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THIS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE SCHOOLS SUPPORTED AND USUALLY FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, I'VE GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE ON THIS, UM, SCHOOL SUPPORT INDUSTRIAL SCHOOL SUPPORT BUSINESSES. SCHOOLS SUPPORT RETAIL BECAUSE THEY GET NO KIDS, BUT THEY GET THE REAL ESTATE VALUES THAT ARE THERE. UM FROM THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS.WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO UNDERSTAND THE GROWTH AND THE IMPACT ON THOSE SORT OF THINGS. THERE WILL BE FINANCIAL MECHANISMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN PLACE. WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO INTRODUCE SOME NEW FINANCIAL MECHANISMS INTO THIS MASTER PLAN THAT MARYSVILLE HAS NOT SEEN. AND THAT IS A COMMUNITY AUTHORITY. UM I MANAGED JEROME VILLAGE FOR 15 YEARS FOR NATIONWIDE. FROM THE TIME WE TOOK IT OUT OF BANKRUPTCY TO ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, AND PROBABLY THE MOST CRITICAL PIECE OF YOU HAD THE DUBLIN SCHOOLS HAD NATIONWIDE WHO HAD MORE MONEY THAN GOD. WHICH HELPS. UM BUT YOU ALSO HAVE SOMETHING CALLED A COMMUNITY AUTHORITY. SO IT PUT A MILLAGE OVER TOP OF THE BUSINESSES AND THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO LIVE THERE IN THE FUTURE AND NATIONWIDE HAS USED THAT TO FUND NOW THEY REFUND AND THEY GET REIMBURSED UP TO $120 MILLION WHEN I LEFT OF INFRASTRUCTURE, SO THERE'S NOT AN INTENT TO PUT ON INFRASTRUCTURE BURDEN HERE ON THE EXISTING FOLKS IN MARYSVILLE OR THE TOWNSHIP FROM THAT STANDPOINT, UM, SO WE DO HAVE FINANCIAL MECHANISMS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. UM AND SOME OF THOSE WILL FUND THE SCHOOLS.
SOME OF THOSE WERE FUN PARK SYSTEMS AND THAT RELATED TO THE LARGER DEVELOPMENT AND WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW WE INCLUDE THE BOXED IN MEADOWS. HOW DO WE GET THE BIKE TRAILS AND THE COMMON AREA AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE FROM THAT SIDE THAT WILL BE IN COOPERATION WITH THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY? HOW DO WE ACCESS THAT AREA AND GET THOSE TRAILS DOWN THERE SO THEY CAN ENJOY THEM TOO? EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, UM AND LIKE I SAID, IF THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME RESIDENTIAL LEADERS, ETCETERA THAT WANT TO GET TOGETHER. I CAN SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT PLAN, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE TO PIECEMEAL, THE ANNEXATION AND THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS THROUGH HERE. OKAY I THINK MAYBE I JUST HAVE ONE MORE THAN OPENING BACK UP TO THE BOARD. UM YOU TOUCH PHONE WITH MR FISHER'S QUESTION, BUT ALSO CAME UP. COULD YOU JUST BRIEFLY EXPLAIN LIKE WHY YOU FEEL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS THE
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BEST FIT THERE AS OPPOSED TO RESIDENTIAL, UM, MOSTLY AT SCOTTS LAWN, SO YOU HAVE AN ACCESS POINT, AND IT'S HOW THE OTHER SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION WAS DEVELOPED AS WELL. YOU HAVE THE BIG BOX RETAIL. THAT'S UP HERE. WE HAVE SOME RETAIL THAT WILL COME ON THIS PLAN A LITTLE LATER IN THE PROCESS, NOT ON THE ANNEXATION ONE AND TWO, BUT THE BIG BOX RETAIL MINUS LOWS ALREADY THERE. REALLY BELONGS ON THE COLEMAN CROSSING SIDE, AND THAT'S HOW THE CITY HAS WENT THROUGH AND DONE A MASTER PLAN SOUTH OF THAT THEY HAVE AN INNOVATION PARK AND THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT. PROBABLY FOR 20 , PLUS YEARS FROM THAT STANDPOINT, UM, THE MAIN POINT OF PUTTING THAT SOUTH OF THE CITY WAS YOU HAD SCOTT SALON AS AN ACCESS POINT. THAT IS UNFETTERED. NOW RESIDENTS USE THAT AS AN ACCESS POINT. ESPECIALLY THERE'S SOME CONGESTION UP AT 36 AND 33. BUT RESIDENTS USE THAT AS AN ACCESS POINT TO, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE INDUSTRIAL GOES THAT WAY, SO I DON'T SEE TRUCKS GOING UP TO FIFTH AVENUE AND COMING OUT OF 36. NOW OBVIOUSLY TO GET THE LOWS, THERE'S SOME, AND I CAN'T PROMISE THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY BUT THERE ARE DESIGN FEATURES ON THE ROADWAY. UM MAINLY ROUNDABOUTS. I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS AND MIXED ABOUT THEM. BUT THERE ARE SOME PROPOSALS TO INCLUDE SOME ROUNDABOUTS TO PROTECT SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH. THE FORCE TRUCKS TO GO IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN A SEMI TRUCK CODE, TRY TO GO THROUGH A ROUNDABOUT. IT'S NOT PRETTY, UM SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO FORCE MOST OF THAT. THAT TRAFFIC TO THE SOUTH, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT WANTS TO GO. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY, AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT THE ENGINEERING IS ACTUALLY DOING. THE HIGH LEVEL ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF WHAT THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN WANTS TO DO. IT WANTS TO CONNECT SCOTT'S, ALONG WITH WATKINS ROAD TO 36, AND ULTIMATELY GO ACROSS THE CREEK UP TO FOUR. I MEAN, THAT IS A 20 TO 25 YEAR. THOROUGHFARE PLAN OF WHAT THEY WANT TO ACCOMPLISH HOW YOU ACCOMPLISH. THAT IS WHAT THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN THE TRAFFIC STUDY STARTS TO SOLVE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF ENGINEERS ARE SMARTER THAN ME THERE IN THAT PROCESS. OKAY OPEN UP TO THE REST OF WARD. ANYTHING THAT I MISSED AND WERE ANY THOUGHTS THAT COME TO MIND JUST THROUGHOUT THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ASK AT THIS POINT.I'M SURE I DIDN'T HIT EVERY SINGLE POINT. I TRIED TO HIT ALL THE HIGHLIGHTS. I APOLOGIZE.
MAYBE ONE COMMENT, UM PARTY. YOU TALK KIND OF FAST, BUT AND IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING. I THINK THE HIGHLIGHT THE PROCESS STAGE AT WHICH WE ARE AT. I SENT SOME DISCONNECT BASED ON SOME OF THE QUESTIONS JUST ABOUT A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT STAGE OF THE PROCESS WE'RE AT. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO DESCRIBE JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAKE? AGAIN THE STAGE AT WHICH WE ARE AT REALLY THINK ASHLEY TOUCHED, MAYBE IT WOULD BE BETTER TO DO THROW IT OUT IN DETAIL, BUT WE CAN SO WE'RE AT THE THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE STATEMENT OF SERVICES FOR THE FIRST KIND OF STEP IN THE ANNEXATION PROCESS THAT ALREADY WENT TO CITY COUNCIL. WE ARE IN THE SKETCH PLAN PROCESS NOW AND THEN IT'LL GO TO A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FROM THEIR PLANNING COMMISSION PROVIDES THE RECOMMENDATION THAT GETS ISSUED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR REVIEW. AND THEN CITY COUNCIL SAYS YES OR NO ON ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD THERE IS THE ANNEXATION WILL MEET THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AT CITY COUNCIL . SO THE ANNEXATION PROCESS ACTUALLY STARTS WITH THE FILING TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ASKED THE CITY ARE YOU WILLING TO SERVICE THIS ANNEXATION? IF IT COMES INTO THE CITY? THE CITY SAID, YES. SO INDEXATION WON. THE SERVICE RESOLUTION HAS BEEN APPROVED ANNEXATION TO THE SERVICE RESOLUTION THIS ANNEXATION. HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED. IT IS ON OCTOBER THE NINTH, THE CITY WILL ESSENTIALLY PROVIDE THE COUNTY WITH A SERVICE LETTER AND WE HAVE TO DO THAT. WITH EACH ANNEXATION. IT'S A MIND NUMBING PROCESS AT THAT POINT IN TIME WHEN THE SERVICE LETTER IS THERE, THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WILL APPROVE THE ANNEXATION AND ALL THEY'RE SAYING IS THE ANNEXATION. THIS GROUND CAN LEAVE THE TOWNSHIP AND GO INTO THE CITY AND ANNEXATION ONE THAT HAPPENED ON THE 27TH ANNEXATION TO I THINK IT'S THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER.
ON ON THAT THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WERE THAT AND THEN IT COMES BACK TO THE CITY. IT SITS FOR 60 DAYS AND THEN THE COUNTY OR THE CITY COUNCIL IS ABLE TO ACT ON IT, AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE WOULD HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UM, WAITING FOR CITY COUNCIL TO ACT, SO THAT'S THE PROCESS, SO IT'S KIND OF A DUAL TRACK PROCESS. UM, FROM THAT STANDPOINT, AT THE END OF THAT. EVERY. BUILDING EVERY RESIDENTIAL THEN ALSO GOES THROUGH THIS PROCESS. THAT'S CORRECT. AND SO WHEN A USER COMES IN, THEY WILL DEFINE BECAUSE IN AN INDUSTRIAL PARK I CAN'T DEFINE. IS IT GOING TO BE A FIVE ACRE PARCEL IS GOING TO BE A 50 ACRE PARCEL IS GOING TO BE A 200 ACRE PARCEL AT THE POINT IN TIME THE USER IS IDENTIFIED, THEN IT COMES BACK THROUGH. IT IS GOES TO THE DESIGN REVIEW PROCESS IF IT IS A CONDITIONAL USE OR SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T FIT THE PRIMARY USES. THEN IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU FOLKS, AND THEN IT WILL GO BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL. BUT WHEN YOU GOCESS, WE ALL KNOW WHE USER IS. YOU KNOW WHAT INCOME
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TAXES WITH REAL ESTATE WITH THE VALUE OF THE BUILDING IS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS AND THE ATTRIBUTES OF THAT BUILDING NEEDS. A DATA CENTER NEEDS A VERY SMALL PARKING LOT. YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER MANUFACTURER LIKE HE'S LOGISTICS. IF THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, DETERMINING THE AUTONOMOUS VEHICULAR, YOU KNOW CONTROLS OF THE SEMI TRUCKS, WHICH THEY'RE DOING. UM THEY'RE GOING TO DO 150,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME SEMIS THAT COME IN AND OUT OF THERE AS THEY GET RETROFIT FOR THAT EQUIPMENT. UM SO IT'S A VERY BROAD USE. BUT THOSE USES DO COME BACK. THEY COME BACK NOT ONLY FROM HIS OWNING AND DESIGN VIEW STANDPOINT, BUT THEN THEY ALSO GO THROUGH THE ENGINEERING AND THEY GO THROUGH THE BUFFERING AND GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS. IT'S GOOD. NO, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE I KNOW YOU HAD A LOT TO COVER WAS TRYING TO FLY THROUGH. GOOD EXPLANATION. THANK YOU. PERKED UP ANYTHING. ANYONE ELSE? BORED. ALRIGHT WITH THAT? DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND THAT IS WITH THE STIPULATION OF THE CHANGES TO THE PERMITTED AND CONDITIONAL USES THAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE AREA IN THE COMMON AREA. AND YES, INCREASING THE COMMON AREA TO A 10. MOTION FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT. DO I NEED A SECOND. OKAY WE'VE GOT A SECOND CALL, PLEASE. FOR SURE. NO. FOR DON'T BELIEVE THIS MEETS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. YES. YES. HE PRODUCED? YES. YES. MR HUNT? YES, HMM. OKAY. THANK YOU.[DISCUSSION ITEMS]
NEXT TIME ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION ITEMS AND SO WE HAVE THE 2024 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULE ALSO, YES, WE CAN TAKE LIKE A TWO MINUTE BREAK SOON. YOU GUYS DON'T WANT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULED FOR 2024, YOU CAN STEP OUT AND JUST ASKED THAT THAT THAT YOU DO DON'T CONGREGATE IN THE HAWK IS BECAUSE THAT SOUNDS JUST COMES RIGHT IN HERE. SO I DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S COMMENTS AND PARTICIPATION.YEAH. SOMEWHERE. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALREADY. YOU HAVE TO STAY RIGHT. YOU'RE STAYING SAID. I MEAN, YOU CAN HANG OUT WITH US. TONIGHT YEAH. CARE WHAT DRUGS? ALL RIGHT.
ALRIGHT SO THE 2024 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS SCHEDULE YES, WE JUST WANTED TO YEAH. AND YOUR ADJUSTMENTS ON. THE SECOND TUESDAY. SO EVERYTHING SHOULD BE . OKAY? FOR THE RECORD. I DO NOT LIKE THE JUNE 4TH DATE. JUNE 4TH YOUR BREATH. EXCELLENT DAY AFTER MY BIRTHDAY, I'LL BE FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, APRIL SECONDS BY 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY AND I SPEND WITH YOU RIGHT AGAIN EXCUSE THAT. IT WAS JUST A MINUTE JANUARY 2ND LIKE I'M STILL THERE . YEAH, I WON'T BE BACK ON TRACK. I MEAN, NO, NO, NO. A 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY IS WAY MORE IMPORTANT, LIKE JANUARY 2ND.
WELL, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. NOT NOT THAT IT'S SOMETHING I'M PROPOSING. RIGHT NOW. THIS IS MORE OF JUST A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION. WHAT UM. ACT OF GOD, WOULD IT TAKE TO NOT BE THE FIRST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH? I'M NOT PROPOSING THAT. I'M JUST ASKING COUNSEL WITH HOLIDAY COUNCIL SOCIALIST SESSIONS OF THE EXPRESSION INTO TUESDAY. UM, SO WE HAD FIRST TUESDAY OR THE FIRST WEEK IS PLANNING VISION SECOND WEEK IS DESIGNED BEFORE THE THIRD WEAKEST. THAT WE TRY TO KIND OF STAY WITH THOSE EVERY THINKING OF LIKE A WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY OR SOMETIME IN THE FIRST WEEK, OR YOU'RE JUST ONLY ASKING BECAUSE, UM, THE PARIS TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES MEET ON THE FIRST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH AS WELL. AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO ATTEND MEETINGS. YOU'RE ASSUMING A LOT YOU KNOW, CITIZENS ARE ALLOWED TO JOIN THOSE MEETINGS ANYTIME. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I MEAN
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, I GUESS WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT WERE TO BE ON THE TABLE. HOW WHAT KIND OF ACCEPT ACTIVE CONGRESS DOES IT TAKE TO CITY MANAGER LAST TIME COMFORTABLE AND THE PRESIDENT OF COUNCIL, UH YEAH. WE ALSO. I HAVE TO CHECK EVERYONE'S SCHEDULES, TOO. WE DID AT THE START. KIND OF AT THIS TIME. WHAT THIS WORK FOREVER. MHM THERE'S ALSO A LOT LESS TO MOVE ON THE OTHER SIDE. I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION. UM HER NOVEMBER MEETING. IF WE HAVE ONE IS ELECTION NIGHT, I BELIEVE, RIGHT. SO. SO? SO YOU WON'T KNOW UNTIL DECEMBER, I GUESS, BUT NO, I DIDN'T. I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT SINCE I'M ASSUMING THE CITY OFFICES CLOSED THAT DAY. IS THERE A MEETING? MHM. BUT WHAT'S THE THING OF IT ? ARE YOU GUYS NOT CLOSED ON ELECTION DAY TUESDAY FOR THE FIRST MONTH, OKAY? OKAY? OH, JANUARY. 2ND LOOK AT THAT ONE.YOU GUYS CAN ALL BE PART OF MY WATCH PARTY. WHAT SO I SHOULD SAY, I IF IN DECEMBER WOULD WE BE ABLE TO CHANGE IT? OR IS IT A MATTER OF, UM IF WE COULD WHAT I COULD DO WITH HAVE THE DISCUSSION WITH TERRY JUST TO SAY, HEY, THERE'S POSSIBILITY. IS THERE A DIFFERENT DAY THAT WORKS BETTER. TODAY IS WEDNESDAY . I DON'T HAVE A WEDNESDAYS WOULD BE GREAT. FROM THE STORY NOW, SO SOME PLACE FIRST IN SPORTS. THEY PLAYED TUESDAYS THURSDAYS. THIS ISN'T WHAT DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. OKAY? SCOTT I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME MEETINGS. DO, UH, ONCE THEY SHOULD BE FINE. YEAH. HMM I'M NOT PROPOSING, SO IT WAS JUST A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION.
CONVERSATIONS CONVERSATIONS ONLINE, CLOSER TO 24. OPPORTUNITY CAN DECIDE THAT SOUND. ANOTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS. OKAY? YEAH, I DON'T THINK I MAY THINK ALRIGHT COMMENTS FROM
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INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS. JUST GETTING GO DOWN THE LIST. CHAD, I HAVE NONE. LESLIE. UM AS I'M SURE YOU'LL PROBABLY START LOOKING INTO IT. WE TALKED ABOUT SOME LANGUAGE FOR DEFINING A DATA CENTER. UM IN OUR ZONING CODE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE HOW WE JUST OKAY. WELL, THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE TRANSPORTATION. BUT I'M GONNA GO BACK AND WORK IN OUR LIKE CURRENT LIST OF ABUSES AND SCARES. IT IS CLASSIFIED. WHAT WE DID IN THE. RETAIL SO YOU'RE THINKING THERE MIGHT BE SOME SORT OF OTHER DATA SERVICES AND IN THE DEFINITION SAYS OR DATA CENTER. UNDERSTOOD, OKAY.MR FISHER. UH, PARENTS. MR HUNTER. UH I HAD LOOKED AT THE PROPOSAL FOR TONIGHT. AND YOU KNOW, I WAS WEIGHING IT AGAINST OUR COMPLAINT AND VARIOUS OTHER THINGS THAT I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON INTERPRETATION. UM, YOU KNOW, MY VIEWPOINT WAS THAT IT DID MEET THE COM PLAN. UH WHICH WAS ONE OF THE POINTS THAT I CONSIDER FOR VOTING, BUT NO. OTHERWISE I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THE PUBLIC HERE AND, UH, JUST I DID SENSE AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE WAS A DISCONNECT ABOUT JUST SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THEY WERE ASKING AND DIDN'T EXACTLY WHAT I'M WITH THE STAGE WE WERE AT, SO I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION BAR TO GIVE. HE'S TRYING TO FLY THROUGH 500 POINTS. I THINK THAT YOU COVERED PRETTY WELL. SO HOPEFULLY THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS KIND OF THE FUTURE PROCESSES AND ALL THAT. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, NO. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. NO COMMENT. ALRIGHT UM, WITH MR HUNTER'S COMMENTS KIND OF REMINDED ME. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO YOU KNOW, UM GETTING ONTO THIS BOARD. THERE WAS LIKE VERY LITTLE TRAINING LIKE WE GOOD TO HAVE, LIKE A PDF, LIKE OUTLINE OF SOME COMING UP ON THREE YEARS AND I FEEL LIKE I NOW HAVE A GOOD IDEA. OKAY YOU DO. HMM WELL, THEN I'M GOING TO MISS THAT GOES THROUGH OUR PROCESS OF HEY, IF YOU'RE COMING FOR YOUR STEPS UM AND THEY WERE COMING. JUST A REZONING OF SOME OTHER KIND OR FOR PRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT DOESN'T NEED RECENT BUILDING. IT WASN'T THAT WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU GUYS.
ALRIGHT UH, LEARNED THAT YEAH. ALWAYS HAPPY TO SEE A ROOM. FULL CITIZENS. UM BUT TO HEAR FEEDBACK, AND WE, AS I OFTEN SAY , WE DO LISTEN TO THEM. EVEN IF WE VOTE IN A WAY THAT MAY NOT BE
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WHAT THEIR WISHES WERE, BUT WE DO HEAR IT. WE UNDERSTAND IT. WE WANT TO KEEP THOSE PROPERTY VALUES MAINTAINED IF NOT RAISED, AND, UM DO THE BEST FOR THE CITY. WITH THAT, AND WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN ALL IN FAVOR. SAY AYE, AYE BOOST THANK YOU.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.