Nov 07, 2023 Planning Commission

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MR HUNTER IS EXCUSED. HIS WRINKLED HERE. HERE. HERE. HERE. MR WONG. HERE. PRESIDENT. THANK

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW AND ARE THERE ANY CHANGES, COMMENTS CONDITIONS? HMM. TO APPROVE. ALL IN FAVOR. SAY AYE, RIGHT. MOST SAME. ALRIGHT NEXT WE GET TO THE SWEARING OF

[SWEARING OF CITIZENS & APPLICANTS]

[REPORT OF ADMINISTRATION]

[DISCUSSION ITEMS]

AND THEN WE HAVE A BUSY AGENDA TONIGHT, SO WE'LL TRY TO ROLL THROUGH IT WITHIN OR I'M HOPING 15 MINUTES. GIVE OR TAKE, UM, JUST AN F Y I. THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN DOES NOT REQUIRE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING THIS FORWARD JUST AS A PRESENTATION. THE PLAN IS TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL NEXT WEEK AS A CURSORY LOOK AT IT AND THEN UM, ASPIRIN ADOPTION? PROBABLY SOMETIME IN DECEMBER. UM OUR CURRENT THOROUGHFARE PLAN WAS LAST UPDATED BACK IN 2011 SO SIMILAR TO COMPREHENSIVE PLANS AND OTHER MASTER PLANS OF THIS LEVEL. WE TRY TO UPDATE THOSE EVERY 8 TO 10 YEARS. UM WE CAN HAVE EMBARKED ON THIS PROCESS BACK IN 2019 BY LOOKING FOR CONSULTANTS TO SELECT FOR THE PLAN. WE ULTIMATELY ENDED UP CHOOSING BRIDGES AND I PULL FOR THE PROJECT. AND THEN IN 2020. WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE DATA AND RECEIVED PUBLIC INPUT ON ON THE PLAN. FOR TONIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH. ONE IS A THOROUGHFARE PLAN. THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE'LL GO THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH TO GET TO THIS POINT. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN NEXT STEPS SO. I'LL PROVIDE A BRIEF INTRODUCTION. OUR OUR TEAM THAT KIND OF WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS WAS MYSELF. JEREMY HOYT, THE PUBLIC SERVICE DIRECTOR, ASHLEY GAVE HER AND MARK DEL SABER ARE CONSTRUCTION AND MOBILITY MANAGER PROJECT TEAM FROM BRIDGES AND NAIPAUL WAS. I'LL INTRODUCE ERIC LOWRY FROM BURGESS AND I PULL ERIC, IF

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TO DEFINE NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS LOOKING FORWARD. SO THE PLANNING PROCESS A SIMPLE OUTLINE. I'LL JUST KIND OF JUST DEFINED HERE. ESSENTIALLY WE TRIED TO DEFINE WHAT THE NEEDS WERE FOR THE COMMUNITY, SO WE LOOKED AT CURRENT AND FUTURE TRAFFIC PLUS EXPECTED DEVELOPMENT. WE TOOK A LOOK AT SAFETY TRENDS. WE ASKED THE PUBLIC WHAT? WHAT DO YOU SEE AS BEING CURRENT NEEDS OF PROBLEMS? AH THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. WHAT ARE WE DOING? WELL WE ALSO LOOK AT TOOK A CLOSER LOOK AT CERTAIN CRITICAL LOCATIONS. UM AND SO I'LL WALK THROUGH THOSE REAL QUICK AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT, UM. SO I DON'T I DON'T LIVE IN MARISOL.

YOU'LL NEED TO TELL ME IF YOU KNOW WE ASKED PEOPLE AND WE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE THINGS WHAT THE ISSUES WERE. BUT THIS IS THIS IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE HEARD AND WHAT WE SAW WHEN WE ANALYZE DATA THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONGESTION LONG FIFTH AND DELAWARE. UH CERTAINLY SAW SOME OF THAT TONIGHT AS WELL VIA LARGE MOST STREETS. AH, DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONGESTION DURING MOST HOURS OF THE DAY, BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN IT DOES GET SOMEWHAT CONGESTED. BEYOND CONGESTION, PUBLIC INPUT. WHAT WE SAW WAS THAT, UH, WE ASKED IN THE SUMMER OF 2020 THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE THEIR THOUGHTS AND 700. PEOPLE RESPONDED. WHEN WE LOOKED AT A SUMMARY OF THAT INFORMATION . WHAT WE SAW WAS THAT ABOUT 10% OF THE PUBLIC WAS CONCERNED ABOUT CONGESTION UPTOWN.

COLEMAN'S CROSSING WAS A CONCERN FOR 6% STATE ROUTE. 31 ALSO IN DELAWARE AVENUE ABOUT 5% EACH.

I'LL NOTE THAT THE STATE ROUTE 31 SINCE BEEN IMPROVED WITH THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS AND PHASES, SO THOSE ISSUES ARE ADDRESSED, BUT, UM BUT CERTAINLY THERE'S OTHER ITEMS THAT MAY BE STILL NEED ATTENTION. GENERALLY SPEAKING, ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE RESPONDENTS WERE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT CONGESTION A LITTLE LESS THAN 1/5. WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION AND JUST 12% WERE CONCERNED ABOUT MAINTENANCE. WE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT, UM, THAT PEOPLE

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ERIC APOLOGIZE. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT THAT NOTE. UM AH. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS INTERRUPT, IT'S COMPLETELY FINE. UM SO, UH, ALL RIGHT, SO. LET ME WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE TOOK VERY BRIEFLY TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND. WHAT WE THINK WILL HAPPEN WITH CONGESTION IN THE FUTURE. AS I MENTIONED MARY, CELLS GROWING, AND SO NEW PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE EVERY DAY.

COMING HERE TO SHOP CONGESTIONS IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE. PERHAPS IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, SO TODAY, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, AND WE'LL GO BACK TO THIS BUT OUR PROCESSES TO TAKE THAT CONDITIONS FROM TODAY. AH WHAT WE DID IS WE LOOKED AT. WHERE DO WE THINK THAT THERE WILL BE, UM, DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS AT MINIMUM, SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE NEAR TERM, I'LL SAY FOCUS AREAS FROM THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN THAT WE, UM UH, THAT THAT WE THINK WILL PROBABLY BE DEVELOPING HERE SOON . AND SO WE TOOK THAT USED THAT TO HELP. IDENTIFY, UM VOLUMES FROM THOSE DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL AS BASE GROWTH, AND THEN WE RAN IT THROUGH OUR TOOL TO ASSESS WHAT WE THOUGHT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WOULD BE. AND ESSENTIALLY, THIS IS WHAT WE SEE. SO THERE WAS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF RED ON THE MAP BEFORE, BUT IF THERE'S NO WIDENING AND NO IMPROVEMENT, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT SUBSTANTIALLY MORE SEGMENTS OF ROADS, THOROUGHFARES. AND THE CITY WILL EXPERIENCE CONGESTION. UH UM, THAT BEING SAID GROWTH HAPPENS OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. IT'S ONLY 2033. SO WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT AWAY SO SOME TIME TO START ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES AS THAT HAPPENS. AH! SO EMPIRE THAT STRATEGY IS THE FUTURE STREET NETWORK EXHIBIT THAT WE PRODUCED. SO, UM LET ME LET ME TALK ABOUT THIS FOR JUST A SECOND. SO ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF MARYSVILLE IS THAT WE HAVE KIND OF A HUB AND SPOKE MODEL WE HAVE THE INTERSECTION OF A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT HIGHWAYS AND ROADS THAT CONNECT MARYSVILLE NEARBY COMMUNITIES, UM, THAT ALONE AND THAT'S GREAT. BUT AS WE GROW, PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE FROM, SAY, THE MILLWOOD SUBDIVISION, TOO. COLEMAN'S CROSSING. HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET THERE? ARE THEY DRIVING THROUGH UPTOWN? OR IS IT TAKING THE FREEWAY? UH, YOU KNOW WE DON'T THERE. THERE MAY NOT BE AS MANY CHOICES AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE WITH THE FUTURE STREET NETWORK IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE MULTIPLE OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO DIFFERENT PLACES AROUND TOWN WITH IMPROVED STREETS. AND I'LL REAL QUICK ERIC THESE STREETS AND PROPOSED RATES AND THEY'RE JUST LOCATIONS. OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT SENTENCED DOWN. THEY CAN SHIFT A LITTLE BIT BASED ON DEVELOPMENT. SO RIGHT. THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN. SO THE ACTUAL LOCATION IT MAY IT'S GONNA BE. IT'S GONNA TWEAK ONE OF THE THINGS ALL NOTE HERE IS THAT YOU KNOW SOME OF THESE PROJECTS WE EXPECT THAT MAY NEED TO BE LED BY THE CITY. SOME OF THESE LITTLE, MAYBE PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS. OTHER PROJECTS MAY OCCUR AS THE AREAS DEVELOPER BUILD OUT. UM IF THEY BUILD OUT UM. SO WITH THAT ALSO JUST MENTIONED. ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT WAS DEVELOPMENT CONTEXT. SO WHAT IS APPROPRIATE FROM A STREET DESIGN STANDPOINT, SAYING A SUBURBAN ENVIRONMENT LIKE STATE ROUTE 31 IS NOT MAYBE

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THIS DOCUMENT HELPS TO WALK THROUGH THAT PROCESS FOR APPLICANTS AND CITY STAFF. AND WITH THAT, AS WE'RE STARTING TO THINK ABOUT NEXT STEPS, I'M ACTUALLY TURN IT BACK OVER TO KYLE, FOR SOME WORDS ON YEAH, IF YOU WANT TO MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE REAL QUICK. YEAH. SO ERIC MENTIONED HOW LONG SOME OF SOME PROJECTS TAKE TO GO FROM START TO FINISH. UM TYPICALLY, LIKE A LOCALLY FUNDED MAINTAINED PROJECT. YOU'RE LOOKING AT TWO YEARS, SO YOU HAVE ONE YEAR OF DESIGN ONE YEAR RECORD CONSTRUCTION, MAYBE MORE COMPLEX , LOCALLY FUNDED PROJECT. YOU MIGHT LOOK AT THREE YEARS THERE WHERE YOU'VE GOT A YEAR FOR DESIGN. YOU'VE GOT SOME UTILITY RELOCATION WORK. MAYBE SOME PROPERTY ACQUISITION WORK AND THEN IN YEAR TO CONSTRUCT IT, UM, ANY PROJECTS THAT REQUIRE STATE OR FEDERAL NO FUNDS. YOU KNOW, PROBABLY LOOKING AT FOUR YEARS MINIMUM JUST TO GO THROUGH THE FEDERAL PROCESS TO GET GET THE FUNDING AND GO THROUGH THEIR STEPS, UM, TO GET TO CONSTRUCTION AND THEN ULTIMATELY CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT, SO THE BIGGEST THING WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS A STAFF IS JUST PLAN AND KIND OF START DEVELOPING THESE STUDIES AND PREFERRED THE SOLUTIONS FOR SOME OF THE CONGESTED AREAS. ERIC IF YOU MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE WE HEARD EARLY ON IN PUBLIC. COMMENTS ABOUT CONGESTION ON EAST FIFTH STREET AND DELAWARE AVENUE. UM SO WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN A LOOK AT THE FIVE POINTS AND THEIR SECTION. WE'VE GOT PLANS TO IMPROVE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN FOR THAT, WITH HOPES TO CONSTRUCT THE ROUNDABOUT IN 2026, ANOTHER AREA THAT WE KNOW WILL GET CONGESTED AS DEVELOPMENT COMES AS UP OFF STATE ROUTE FOUR. SO SIMILAR TO HOW STATE ROUTE 31 WAS KIND OF CONGESTED DURING THE DEVELOPMENT OF MILL VALLEY IF ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT COMES ON STATE ROUTE FOR IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE NECESSARY. WE ACTUALLY JUST CONCLUDED A STATE ROUTE FOUR

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AWESOME THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. RIGHT NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS OLD BUSINESS. IT'S

[1. To hear a Conditional Use Application for a retail, sales and service use located at 332 W. 5th St. (Parcel Number: 2900070590000).]

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FINAL SIDEWALK WITH TREE LINED ALL THAT MHM. SO ALL THOSE KIND OF ENGINEERING AND INSIDE DETAILS MAY BE COMING BACK WITH MAYBE SOME BUILDING AND, YEAH, I MEAN, WE'RE OPEN TO THE IDEA.

MAYBE CHANGING, YOU KNOW, PAINTING THE BUILDING. JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE LOOKING AT THE OVERHANG A LITTLE BIT. JUST JUST JUST THINGS WE'RE GONNA YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY. ONCE WE GET THROUGH THIS STEP THAT GIVES US A CHANCE TO TALK TO UPS AND KIND OF GET A LITTLE BIT OF A DESIGN PLANTS. I LET YOU KNOW IT DIDN'T KNOW REALLY RIGHT. SO WAIT AND SEE WHAT? WHAT WHAT THEY COME UP WITH. BUT I THINK ARE KIND OF LAST MAJOR CONCERN WAS WAS PARKING RELATED TO THAT PROJECT WITH UPS SO UM, THEY DID AGREE TO A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THOSE TWO BUSINESSES. AND YOU GUYS. WILL YOUR OWNERS OF MARCOS AS WELL AS BUILDING OWNERS, THE TWO PARCELS WE OWN THEM BOTH. AND WE, IN FACT, THE MARCOS THAT'S IN THERE AS PART OF HOAGLAND RESTAURANT GROUP, AND THAT'S ONE OF OUR RESTAURANTS THAT WE HAVE A FRANCHISE AND MARK THOSE PIZZA.

AND IT'S ONE OF OUR RESTAURANTS, SO WE PUT TOGETHER AN EASEMENT, UH, TO ADDRESS THAT. SURE SO STAFFS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AS WELL. YEAH, LOOK LIKE EVERYTHING WAS ADDRESSED. QUESTION WE GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAYING, UM, YOU'VE ADDRESSED THE PARKING SITUATION FOR CUSTOMER PARKING.

WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE? NOT KNOWING HOW THE UPS STORE FUNCTIONS? HOW DO THE PACKAGES GET PICKED UP BY A TRUCK AND TAKEN ELSEWHERE. AND HOW WOULD THAT TRAFFIC FLOW FROM FROM IT? CERTAINLY CERTAINLY, EXACTLY MY NOTE. WE KIND OF DID A LITTLE BIT OF HOMEWORK ON IT AND TRY TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO IS THAT THE THAT AS FAR AS THE TRUCKS THAT COME IN, OF COURSE, THEY'RE ALL BASICALLY DELIVERY TRUCKS. THERE'S NOT A YOU KNOW, A LARGE TRACTOR TRAILER THAT COMES THROUGH WITH THESE AND WHAT WE'RE HOPING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME INTO THE LOT AND THEN BACK INTO THE INTO THE SIDE THERE, TOO. TO THE BACK. UH CORNER THERE FOR THEIR, YOU KNOW, PICK UP, PICK UP AND DELIVERY OF GOODS AND THAT WILL GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO COME STRAIGHT BACK OUT ON THE ON THE PROPERTY. ANOTHER REASON WHY THE ACTUAL SURVEY IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET THAT EXACT MEASUREMENT ONCE, UH, ONCE WE GET TO THIS PORTION OF THE OF THE PROCESS THAT PART OF THEIR BLACK BLACK TOPPER CONCRETE. WHATEVER IT IS, DOES IT STOP AT SOME POINT BECAUSE OH, WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT A, UH, GONNA PUT A CURB THERE? YEAH. GOING BACK TO THE BACK CORNER. UM TRUCK BACKS UP INTO THEIR, UM DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE. I MEAN, IS ANYONE GOING TO TRY TO DRIVE THROUGH THERE? SO YOU KNOW THE IDEA WAS THAT YOU'RE NOT THAT THERE'S THE NEXT PROPERTY THAT'S BEHIND IT.

THAT IS, UH, THERE DR GOES STRAIGHT INTO THEIR BUILDINGS ON THAT SIDE. BEING THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT RIGHT NOW. IT'S OPEN ALL THE WAY DOWN, OF COURSE, AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE CURB IN THE SIDEWALK ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK PROPERTY LINE, WHICH WILL BUTT UP AGAINST THERE. UH LET'S SEE WHICH WILL BUTT UP AGAINST THEIR SIDEWALK. YEAH RIGHT. A PICTURE. HIRED THERE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BACK CORNER TO BUILDING YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. YEAH IS THAT YOUR PROPERTY? WE'RE GONNA HAVE SIDEWALK THAT GOES RIGHT UP INTO IT. IS THAT THE EXTENT OF YOUR BUILDING PROPERTY YOU DON'T OWN THE BUILDING BEHIND DO YOU? NO. WHEN THAT GOES THROUGH. UH UM.

DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. ENGINEERING WILL? YEAH SURE. THOSE IN FRONTA CONDITIONAL USE JUST KIND OF WONDERING. GOOD QUESTION WE CAN WORK THROUGH AND THIS PLAN WILL ELIMINATE THE LIKE THE THREE

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THERE, THERE, THERE. YEAH, YEAH. OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD. OKAY WE WILL OPEN UP TO SUSAN COMMENTS OR ANY CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC. SEEN NONE. UM DO WE HAVE A MOTION MOTION FOR CONDITIONAL APPROVAL? SECOND ALRIGHT. WE HAVE A REALLY COOL PLACE. MR FISHER. MR STILYAN. MR NICHOLSON? YES. THIS PURPOSE. MR. WANNA WITS? YES. MR ENGEL? YES. THAT'S PROOF. THANK YOU FOR COMING TO APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. RIGHT NEXT TIME ON THE

[1. To hear an application for a Final Plat for Skybrook Section 2 Part 1 (Suburban Residential District) located along State Route 4 - U.S. Route 36 & Philip Herre Road (Parcel Number 2900180490010).]

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WHAT'S WHAT'S DO THE VOTE AND THEN COMMENTS AND THEN PUBLIC COMMENTS VOTE AND THEN WE'LL GO ON TO THE SECOND ONE. OKAY? I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO SITTING DOWN STANDING UP. NO, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. HOPEFULLY THE SECOND ONE GOES A LITTLE QUICKER BECAUSE IT'S ALL SURE. UM ALRIGHT, SO ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? STATE. YOUR NAME YOUR ADDRESS.

KATHY YOUNG FOR 25 WEST EIGHT. SO IT'S NO SURPRISE. I'M STILL ASKING, AND I'M GLAD YOU CAN MAKE CHANGES. I'M ASKING FOR STREET TO COME OUT ON THE SIDE ROAD, EVEN IF IT'S FOR FURTHER USE OR FOR FUTURE USE, BECAUSE I THINK FIRST OFF. I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THIS PLAN TO BEGIN WITH. I THINK A BUNCH OF CALL THIS AX LOOKS AWFUL. WHICH I'M SURE CHAD CAN AGREE WITH WHICH HE DID AGREE BACK LAST YEAR WHENEVER IT WAS, BUT WE NEED A STREET. TO GO OUT ON THE SIDE STREET. I KNOW IT'S A TOWNSHIP ROAD. I KNOW THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER IT. BUT ONE DAY IT WILL BE IN NEXT AND WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT. SO SINCE YOU CAN MAKE CHANGES, WE CAN MAKE CHANGES WITH THAT, TOO. I CAN COME BACK UP HERE NEXT TIME OR I CAN JUST REPEAT IT AGAIN. THANK YOU. AH, UM. I KNOW HE'S DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH BACK IN MAY. I MEAN, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR FROM THE CITY OF HIS FIRST? I MEAN, MY UNDERSTANDING OR OUR HANDS ARE TIED. WE CANNOT YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT ROAD GOING TO FILTER HERE, WHICH I DROVE THROUGH DURING THAT TIME AND I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE. YOU KNOW, ASKING ANYONE TO. I MEAN, IT'S A SMOKING ROOM. OKAY TO FEEL UNDERSTOOD. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. ANY OTHER CITIZEN COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? ALRIGHT. SEEN NONE. WE HAVE A MOTION. THANK YOU SECOND. ALL RIGHT. CAN I HAVE A REAL CALL, PLEASE? MR SILIEN. MR NICHOLSON? YES. MS BERBICE. MR WOLOWITZ? YES. MR HUNTER. OH EXCUSE. NOT HERE, MR ENGEL. YES. AND MR FISCHER. SO NEXT TIME ON THE AGENDA IS TO HEAR FINAL TO HEAR AN

[2. To hear an application for a Final Plat for Skybrook Section 2 Part 2 (Suburban Residential District) located along State Route 4 - U.S. Route 36 & Philip Herre Road (Parcel Number 2900180490010).]

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[3. To hear an application for a Final Plat for Darby Run Section 1 (Planned Unit Development) located between State Route 38 & State Route 736. (Parcel Number: 2900300440000).]

THEN WE'LL BEGIN TO IN A COUPLE MORE ITEMS. THOSE PHASE TWO, WHICH IS AN EXTENSION OF THAT EXISTING DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS SORT OF A NEW DEVELOPMENT. I WOULD SAY ON THE EAST SIDE OF RIVER EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE ALL THREE GOING TOGETHER. DO YOU HAVE A PAPER? COPY? IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THAT IT'S COMING UP. SO ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF 736 ON ON THE WEST SIDE IS ABOUT 38. GOT IT, OKAY. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NORTHERN HALF. OF THE EAST SIDE WITH IT, OKAY? YES SO THE ACCESS TO 736 THE NORTHERN ACCESS WOULD BE BUILT AS PART OF THIS SECTION. UM AND THEN LONGER ROAD. THAT RUNS NORTH SOUTH AND KIND OF CURVES EAST WEST ALONG THE STREAM, YOU KNOW? WELL, A PARSON OF THAT WILL BE BUILT TILL THE 36 LOCK COUNT. TEMPORARY TURNAROUND WOULD BE PUT AT THE END OF THAT. FOR THE TIME IN BETWEEN, FOR FIRE, TURN AROUND AND REFUSE TRUCKS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. ALRIGHT UM, THANK YOU ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ON THIS GENERAL. WE'LL GO OR BREAK THEM UP THREE TIMES. SO ANY CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK ON ON

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INVOLVED IN THAT PROJECT. UM I MEAN, THERE'S A STREAM THAT RUNS SIX BETWEEN ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS OR THREE PLANTS TO GO THROUGH. THESE ARE A CITIZEN COMMENTS. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WE WILL WRITE THEM DOWN, AND THEN HE CAN ADDRESS HIM AFTERWARDS. THAT'S JUST THE FORMAT OF OKAY. ONLY KNOW YOU CAN ACTUALLY QUESTION YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS. IT'S JUST IT'S NOT BACK AND FORTH. GOTCHA. OKAY, SO WELL, MY QUESTIONS YES. PENCILS READY ARE WHERE IS THE STREAM IN THIS DESIGN? AND ALSO I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE AND THE PONDS IF THOSE ARE DETENTION BASINS, AND IF THOSE HAVE ANY KIND OF NATIVE PLANTINGS ARE WETLANDS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM OR IF THEY ARE JUST GOING TO BE MODE. HOLES IN THE GROUND, ESSENTIALLY OKAY? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO COMMENT? SPEAK THIS MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER AS FAR AS RESPONDING. SO UM, ASSUME YOU HEARD HER QUESTIONS. IS THERE A STREAM? WHERE IS THE STREAM IN THE PONDS OR THEY DETENTION? THAT'S THE STREAM. I CAN KIND OF SHOW IS LOCATED THROUGH THIS TREES. THE CENTER OF THE SITE. UM THIS SITE FALLS WITHIN THE BIG DERBY WATERSHED. WHICH HAS CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS TO THE OHIO EPA, A UM THAT ARE RATHER STRINGENT. SO THE STREAM ESSENTIALLY NOT GOING TO BE TOUCHED ANYWAY. UM THERE ARE A FEW A COUPLE OF UTILITY CROSSINGS THAT WILL BE DRILLED UNDERNEATH HIS DREAM. BUT THERE'S A CORRIDOR OF I THINK MINIMUM OF 25 FT THAT EXPANDS VARIOUS THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.

UM WHERE THERE CAN BE NO CLEARING. THERE CAN BE NO IMPACT TO THE STREAM. UM, AS FAR AS THE PONDS AND THE BASINS. I BELIEVE UM. AND THIS. THIS WILL ANSWER FOR THREE PLANTS THAT WERE GOING THROUGH THIS BEING THE FIRST. UM ALL THE PONDS ARE UM, STANDARD TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF MARYSVILLE. I BELIEVE ALL BUT ONE ARE A WHAT DETENTION BASIN AS WE CALL, SO IT'LL RETAIN WATER ALL THE TIME. UM THE AREAS AROUND THE BANKS WILL GENERALLY JUST BE MOOD. UM ONE BASIN I BELIEVE IS THIS ONE IS A DRY DETENTION BASIN AS WE CALL IT, SO THAT WILL NOT EVEN DRY MOST TIMES, BUT WE'LL HAVE, UM PLANTS THAT ARE ADEQUATE TO BE IN, UM WHAT AREAS BUT THAT ALSO BE MODE AND MAINTAINED. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD. NONE. AH I HAVE A MOTION FOR A SECOND. OKAY, CALL, PLEASE. SERVICE. YES. MR WOLOWITZ? YES. MR ANGLE? YES. MR FISHER. MR STILYAN. MR NICKERSON? YES. ALL RIGHT. NEXT

[4. To hear an application for a Final Plat for Darby Run Section 2 (Planned Unit Development) located between State Route 38 & State Route 736. (Parcel Number: 2900300440000).]

PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT LOCATED BETWEEN STATE ROUTE 38 AND STATE ROUTE 736 PERSONAL NUMBER 290030044. YES THIS IS THE NEXT SECTION OF THE SAME DEVELOPMENT EAST OF THE STREAM AND THE SAME PARCEL AND THE SOUTHERN ACCESS POINT TO, UM. 736 WILL BE BUILT AS PART OF THIS ONE. IT'S THE SAME. IT'S A 36 LOTS SEEM AS SECTION ONE AND AGAIN FILES FILES THE SAME DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. I BELIEVE WE HAD ESSENTIALLY THE SAME COMMENTS ON THIS SECTION HERE AS THERE WERE SECTION ONE. MAYBE A COUPLE OF CORRECTIONS THAT FELL IN THE SECTION THAT WE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF. RESUBMITTED. OKAY? SO UM, HAVING REVIEWED THIS ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? THE NUN, OPEN UP CITIZEN COMMENTS AND CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA

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SECOND LESLIE KEEPS WANTS TO KEEP GETTING IN, BUT, UH, JUST LOW CALL, PLEASE. MR WOLFOWITZ? YES. MR BINGO. YES. MR FISHER? YES. MR STILYAN. MR NICHOLSON BERBICE? YES. FIVE MINUTES. YEAH PUT IT FIVE MINUTES. TIMER ON YOU HAD MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME, OKAY. UM ALL RIGHT. UH SO MOVED, UM. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA BY THE THIRD ONE FOR YOU TO HEAR AN APPLICATION FOR OUR FINAL

[5. To hear an application for a Final Plat for The Oaks Phase 2 (Planned Unit Development) located between State Route 38 & State Route 736. (Parcel Number: 2900300440000).]

I THINK WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BASIS BEFORE. FOR ONE. THERE'S AN EXISTING RETENTION BASED IN THE SITE THAT WILL BE REWORKED TO KIND OF FIT THE LAYOUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. BUT I BELIEVE THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS FROM THE LOT OWNER JUST SOUTH OF WHAT WE'RE CALLING LAW 84. BUT THERE HAS BEEN A STORM SEWERS ADDED AS PART OF THE FINAL ENGINEERING IN THAT AREA THAT SHOULD HELP THE DRAINAGE AND CONVEYING THAT TO THE EXISTING BASIN THAT WILL BE REWORKED. WAS DRAINAGE FROM THAT LOT INCLUDED IN YOUR CALCULATIONS. IF ANY DRAINAGE I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IN THE ENGINEERING, BUT ANY DRAINAGE THAT YET COMES ONTO THE SITE FROM THAT LOT. UM, WHAT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED? YES. OKAY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT, OPEN THIS UP TO CITIZEN COMMENTS , AND HE CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.

ALRIGHT. SEE NONE. I HAVE A MOTION. CHAD. I'M GONNA SECOND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. THANKS, MR INGLE? YES. MR FISHER? YES. MR STILYAN. MR NICHOLSON? YES MR BERBICE. MR. WANNA WITS? YES. HMM. IT'S PROOF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

[6. To hear an application for a Planned Unit Development (PUD), Development Plan application for a development known as Marysville East Section 1 located at Parcels with ID numbers of 2800170320000, 2800170450010, 2800230571000, 2800210020000, 2800170450020.]

LOCATED PARCELS WITH ID NUMBERS BEAR WITH ME HERE OF 280010170 TUBES 00000. 280017045. 2800 TO

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GUESSING BART'S GONNA TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT. UM SO CITY COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION WE FOCUSED ON IMPROVING THE SANITARY IN THAT AREA TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE DEVELOPMENT HERE, BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IN ADDITION, WE'VE GOT WATER LINE MEANS ALONG US, 36 AND WATKINS ROAD THAT CAN ADEQUATELY SUPPORT ALL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN YOU SAW EARLIER TONIGHT THAT TURNING OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN UPDATE. WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS AREA AND WE ARE MAKING PLANS FOR KIND OF WORKING WITH BAR ON THAT REGIONAL THOROUGHFARE PLAN. TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF ACCOMMODATE ALL ALL TRAFFIC ASSOCIATED WITH US DEVELOPMENT, SO OKAY, THAT'S IT FROM KIND OF STAFF STAFF UPDATE, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT BRIEF OVERVIEW BEFORE YOU GUYS ROLL INTO REVIEWING THIS IN MORE DETAIL WITH PART, OKAY, WE SAID YOU HAD REVIEWED AND AGREED TO SOME UPDATED LANGUAGE IS UPDATED BASED ON KIND OF STAFF COMMENTS WITHIN THE REPORT. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE TOUCHED ON ABOUT 90% OF THOSE. THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE ITEMS THAT WE STILL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH BEFORE. AND WE GO, BUT YOU CAN GO THROUGH THAT. AND THEN WE CAN. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THOSE TONIGHT. TOTAL, SEE IF IT WORKS. OH THAT'S OKAY. I CAN JUST FINE.

NO NO, NO, NO. I GOT TO BRING IT BACK OVER COMMENTS. HAVE TO PULL IT TO THE OTHER SIDE. YEAH, I'M GONNA HAVE TO SHUT IT DOWN AND BRING BACK UP. SOMETHING TO DO WITH TWO SCREENS HERE ARE CHORDS AND THE COMPUTER AND IT PULLS THAT AS LIKE A SECOND STREET. HOW IS THAT? OKAY LET ME SEE IF MY LITTLE CHANGE. HE WORKS PERFECT. AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO HMM. WE'LL DO IT ONE MORE TIME AND MAKE IT BIG BEFORE I PULLED OVER THERE. IT IS STILL OVER. OH, I GOTTA DO IT FROM OVER HERE. OKAY? HMM. WANT TO FIGHT. I THINK IT IS. THIS FLIGHT AUTHORITY. WE PRESENT. OVER HERE TO THE LEFT A LITTLE BIT. PERFECT. WHEN YOU WORK FOR YOURSELF. YOU'RE ALSO

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YOU HAVE US 33. SO AGAIN SUMMARY OF THE SKETCH PLAN. THIS IS THE, UM THIS IS THE SUB AREA PLAN. SO WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO AS A P U D SO PLAYED URBAN DEVELOPMENT HERE. WE'VE GOT FIVE SUB AREAS, THE LARGEST SUB AREAS, SUB AREA B. I'LL START THERE. THAT IS THE INNOVATION DISTRICT. UM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ROUGHLY 250 ACRES IN SOME AREA B, WHICH IS THE START OF THE INNOVATION PARK, AND WE'RE CALLING IT RIGHT NOW, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD INNOVATION, TOO. DESIGNED TO BE VERY SIMILAR TO THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF 33 SUB AREA. A IS A MULTI FAMILY.

IT'S ACTUALLY A MULTI FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, BUT IT ALSO HAS AN ATTACHED RESIDENTIAL.

I'LL SHOW YOU HOW WE'VE INCORPORATED BOTH TOWN HOMES AND THREE STORY UM WHAT IS YOUR TRADITIONAL THREE STORY? WALK UP APARTMENTS IN THAT SUB AREA? SEE IS A FUTURE. YES, I TURNED IT ON. IS A FUTURE RESIDENTIAL AREA . OH YEAH, HERE'S A FUTURE RESIDENTIAL AREA. UM IT'S UP IN THE RIGHT HAND CORNER THERE. THERE'S A CREEK THAT KIND OF BARRICADES IT WE'RE ZONING THIS FROM A SINGLE FAMILY BASIS IN ORDER TO, UM ADD AN ACCESS IT FROM FUTURE PARCELS THAT WE MAY BRING THROUGH THROUGH THE ANNEXATION PROCESS. SUDBURY A D IS A PUBLIC COMMON AREA. THIS IS ONE OF THE STAFF CHANGES, SO THERE'S GOING TO BE PUBLIC AREA HERE. WE'RE TAKING THE CREEKS AND SOME OF THE SENSITIVE TREE LINES AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS AND WE'RE PROTECTING THOSE. THIS ALSO HAS AN ENTITY CALLED A COMMUNITY AUTHORITY THAT'S GOING TO BE WRAPPED OVER THIS. IT'S A FINANCIAL MECHANISM THAT THE FUTURE RESIDENTS IN THE FUTURE USERS THAT THIS AREA WILL ACTUALLY PAY A MILLAGE THAT COMES INTO A FINANCIAL ENTITY. AND THAT ENTITY WILL ACTUALLY BE THE ENTITY THAT CONTROLS SOME AREA. TO BE IN THE PUBLIC COMMON AREA, SO WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE THE SENSITIVE AREAS, THE MAJOR TREE LINES AND THE CREEKS THAT ARE THERE AND PROTECT THOSE PULL THEM OUT. IN THE DIFFERENCE THAT STAFF ASKED ME TO MAKE THROUGHOUT THIS DOCUMENT IS WE'RE GOING TO CALL THAT PUBLIC COMMON AREA SO THOSE ARE YOU CAN CONSIDER IT A PARK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AS OPPOSED TO WITHIN SUDBURY, A B AND C. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR TRADITIONAL OPEN SPACE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DEFINE THE SPACE THAT WE HOLD AND WE PRESERVE WITHIN THE INDIVIDUAL PODS, AND THAT'S A VERY GOOD DISTINCTION. WE EACH OF THESE PODS THE RESIDENTIAL PODS REQUIRE 10% COMMON AREA TO BE HELD WITHIN THE PODS. WE'RE GOING TO EC. THAT WITHIN THE INDIVIDUAL PODS, BUT THEN, IN ADDITION, AS WE BRING THROUGH THE OVERALL CONCEPT, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE ADDING ON TOP OF THAT. THE 14 ACRES SO OPEN SPACE REFERS TO COMMON AREA IN THE PODS AND THE PUBLIC COMMON AREA WILL BE THE PUBLIC SPACE THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE PODS. UM THE MULTI FAMILY AND ATTACHED RESIDENTIAL PIECE. WE'RE ASKING FOR 509 UNITS. THAT'S 14 UNITS AN ACRE. UM ALTHOUGH THIS IS A P U D WE ARE AWARE OF THE DESIGN REVIEW AND THE BONUS DENSITY PROGRAM. WE'VE USED THAT IN THE PAST. IT'S VERY NICE PROGRAM, AND WE HAVE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES DESIGNED IN BOTH THREE STORY WALK UP AND THE TOWN HOMES THAT WILL MEET THAT. UM THAT GET US AROUND THAT 14 UNITS AN ACRE SINGLE FAMILY UP TO THE NORTH. RIGHT NOW. WE'RE JUST ZONING THAT FOR 56 UNITS AND AGAIN, THAT'S A FUTURE ZONING. THERE. THE INDUSTRIAL HERE AGAIN. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 251 ACRES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT IT COULD. IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON THE USES THE PARCEL SIZES. THE BUILDING SIZE IS WHAT THE USES ARE AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS BUT IT COULD BE AS MUCH AS 3 MILLION SQUARE FOOT IN THERE. BECAUSE IT IS 250 AS KYLE HAD MENTIONED SUDBURY, EITHER LITTLE GREEN DOT UP THERE. IT'S ABOUT 1.14 ACRES. UM WE TRANSFERRED THAT GROUND TO

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INDUSTRIAL PARK, 251 ACRES 3.5, OR 3.1 MILLION SQUARE FOOT ESTIMATED IN THE USES. I'LL GO THROUGH. I'VE GOT TO COMPLETE SLIDE BECAUSE ON THIS IS ANNEXATION ONE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHEN WE BROUGHT INDEXATION TO THROUGH AND WE BROUGHT IT. WE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE USES.

IT WAS BASED ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION, PUTTING IN SOME CONDITIONAL USE AND TAKING THEM BACK. SO WE MADE THOSE SAME CHANGES HERE TO ANNEXATION ONE BECAUSE WE WANT TO USE THIS. IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, WHICH IS SUB AREA B, WHICH WILL BE EXPANDED AGAIN TO BE CONSISTENT.

UM SEE, THAT'S A SINGLE FAMILY AGAIN. WE THINK WE'LL HAVE ABOUT 20% COMMON AREA UP THERE. UM ITEM D. THAT'S A NATURAL AREAS, AND E IS PUMP STATION. SO SPEAKING OF THOSE USES THIS IS YOU. SO ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE USING THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. SO WE'RE USING THE CODE IN THE SECTIONS OUT OF YOUR EXISTING CODE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND THE INNOVATION MANUFACTURING INNOVATION CODES IN YOUR SECTIONS. WE'VE TAKEN OUT THE AUTOMOTIVE ITEMS IN THERE. WE'VE TAKEN OUT THE FOR LACK OF BETTER WORD. THE HOME IMPROVEMENT. AND THE LUMBER YARD . THAT WAS THERE. YOU'VE ALREADY GOT LOW SITTING THERE. WE'VE TAKEN OUT THOSE ITEMS, AND THESE ARE THE PERMITTED USES THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH ANNEXATION NUMBER TWO THAT ARE LEFT AND THEN THE FOUR ITEMS DOWN HERE ON THE BOTTOM. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE BROUGHT THROUGH THE FIRST TIME THESE ITEMS WERE ACTUALLY PERMITTED USES WHEN WE BROUGHT THE SKETCH PLAN FOR MARY'S, OH, EAST, ANNEXATION ONE. SO NOW WE'RE CHANGING THAT HERE AND WE'RE JUST MAKING THEM CONDITIONAL USE. THAT MEANS IF ANY OF THESE USES ARE ACTUALLY PROPOSED, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH YOUR PROCESS AND ALSO GO TO CITY COUNCIL. OOPS. SO THIS IS THE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN . THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SAW ON THE SKETCH PLAN. UM A FEW OF THE CHANGES. WE'VE HAD SETBACKS AND BUFFERS. I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THAT HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. BUT ESSENTIALLY AS YOU CAN SEE, AND I KNOW MY LIGHT DOESN'T WORK, BUT WE HAVE INTEGRATED THE TOWN HOMES. WE'VE GOT BOTH FOUR AND SIX UNIT TOWN HOMES ON THE PLAN. WE'VE INTEGRATED THOSE AROUND THE THREE STORY WALK UPS. SO IF YOU COME IN OFF OF WALK INS ROAD, WHICH IS ON THE TOP OF THE PROJECT, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE CLUBHOUSE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE YOUR FITNESS AREA THAT'S GOING

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OPACITY OF THAT TREE OR THAT TREE LINE AT THE FOUR YEAR MARK WILL BE 50 TO 55% NOW OVER HERE.

WE'VE GOT A SIMILAR USE OVER ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. WE WILL HAVE, UM, THE INDUSTRIAL AND THE INNOVATION PARK. SO WE WILL PUT IN THAT BUFFER AND THEN I WILL EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT THE INDUSTRIAL USERS WHEN THEY'RE UP AGAINST A CHANGE IN USE WILL ACTUALLY PUT IN PLACE HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. UM WE WERE AT FENCING. IT'S A DECORATIVE FENCE . IT'S NOT GOING TO KEEP ANYTHING IN OR KEEP ANYTHING OUT . BUT UM, WE'RE GOING TO PUT A CONTINUATION OF THE DECORATIVE FENCE THAT IS ACROSS THE STREET ON KENMORE PLACE. WHICH IS THE APARTMENTS OVER THERE. WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT ALL ALONG. 33 THE INDUSTRIAL PARK WILL CONTINUE THAT FROM AN ACCESS STANDPOINT. AND WE WILL PUT THAT FENCE ON BOTH SIDES OF WALKING ROAD AS WE GO DOWN, SO WALKING'S ROAD WILL ACTUALLY HAVE A PROFILE OF THE ROAD WHICH ULTIMATELY WILL BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 8100 FT. BUT YOU WILL HAVE A TREE LINE. YOU WILL THEN HAVE A FENCE AND THEN YOU'LL GO INTO THE ACTUAL SITES. UM OH, AND IT WILL HAVE WALKING TRAILS, 10 FT. WALKING TRAILS ON BOTH SIDES. THAT'S I GOT TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT HERE IN JUST A MINUTE . UM BUT SO WE WILL HAVE A VERY CONNECTED SITE ALL THE WAY FROM THE BACK TO THE FRONT. UM, THERE IS A LITTLE SECTION IN THAT STAFF ASKED US TO CONTINUE UM, RIGHT HERE OR BY TRAIL AROUND THIS POND STOPS AND IT WAS GOING TO USE THE SIDEWALKS. BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS ENTIRE TOGETHER, AND THAT WAY YOU'LL HAVE A MULTIPURPOSE TRAIL ALL THROUGHOUT MULTIPURPOSE TRAILS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT IS 8 FT. WHEN WE GET TO THE PUBLIC ROADS, KYLE'S REQUIREMENT IS 10, SO WE'LL DO THAT ON BOTH SIDES OF WATKINS ROAD. WHICH ULTIMATELY FROM A MASTER PLAN STANDPOINT WOULD CONTINUE, AND HOPEFULLY IT CONTINUES BOTH WAYS AS OTHER PARCELS DEVELOP AND CAN ATTACH INTO THE EXISTING APARTMENTS AND THE CONDOS TO THE LEFT HERE. THIS IS THE INDUSTRIAL SETBACKS. SO UM, AROUND ON IF WE HAVE A CHANGE IN USE, MEANING INDUSTRIAL UP AGAINST RESIDENTIAL, UM OR MULTI FAMILY, THE INDUSTRIAL PARK WILL HAVE A MINIMUM SETBACK AROUND THE ENTIRE PROJECT FOR ROAD AND PAYMENT OF 50 FT. THEN THEY WILL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 50 FT. BEYOND THAT, 100 FT. TOTAL B B FOUR YOU'LL SEE ANY BUILDING. UM SO YOU'LL HAVE 50 FT ROAD IN PAYMENT WITH NOTHING THERE. IT'S GOING TO BE A BUFFERED AREA THEY'RE MOUNTING IS GOING TO BE 6 FT. BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE CHANGES USE HERE, SO IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE INNOVATION OR INDUSTRIAL TO RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT MOUNTING WILL BE 6 FT. UM THEY WILL INCLUDE A MINIMUM OF EIGHT EVERGREENS, THREE DECIDUOUS AND THREE ORNAMENTAL TREES PER EVERY 100 FT. AND THERE ARE PISS CITY 00 OPACITY.

GOD I HATE THAT WORK. UM WILL BE , UM 80% AT THE FOUR YEAR MARK AND AGAIN, THIS IS CHANGE OF USE

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FABRICATION THOSE SORT OF THINGS LIGHT MANUFACTURING, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND SOME OF IT COULD BE OFFICE BECAUSE THAT FITS YOUR ZONE, SO WE TOOK OUT THE CAR DEALERSHIPS. WE TOOK OUT THE AUTUMN REPAIR SHOPS. WE TOOK OUT THE THINGS THAT WE DID NOT WANT THEIR. UM SO THE NURSERY PIECE THERE WAS A NURSERY. AND THEN THERE WAS THE LACK OF A BETTER WORD HARDWARE STORE TYPE OF COMPONENT, WHICH HAD RETAIL. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT HERE. THIS IS NOT A REGIONAL RETAIL CENTER. THAT'S COLEMAN CROSSING AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FREEWAY. THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT YOUR BIG BOX STUFF. I KNOW LOWS IS HERE, BUT LOWS WAS HERE BEFORE WE DID THIS. SO THIS IS TRULY AN INNOVATION PARK WHERE WE ARE LOOKING TO DO, UM, HIGH NET WORTH JOBS. I MEAN, IT'S NOT

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THIS IS MEANT TO BE, UM, INDUSTRIAL LEVEL TO WHERE YOU'RE BRINGING COMPUTERS. YOU COULD BE BRINGING IN SOMETHING WHERE YOU'RE BREAKING IT APART AND YOU'RE REUSING PARTS AND YOUR RECYCLING FROM THAT STANDPOINT. UM AND THAT'S ABOUT AS MUCH INFORMATION AS YOU CAN GIVE YOU OTHER THAN THE DEFINITION THAT'S IN OUR TEXT ON THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT IT IS A CONDITIONAL USE. SO IF THERE IS A RECYCLING USE THAT COMES IN HERE, WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK IN FRONT OF YOU WITH A PURE DEFINITION OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. BUT WE WERE TRYING TO WEED OUT FROM A ZONING STANDPOINT, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE DON'T WANT HERE IS EXACTLY WHY WE TOOK THOSE OUT. ALL RIGHT, UM. I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE WE TOUCHED ON AREAS. CC'S THE RESIDENTIAL HOW MUCH? UM AND SO THE ONE. WITH THE OTHER AREAS . UM, THE MULTI FAMILY IN THE INDUSTRIAL, UM THERE IS WHAT IS IN OUR CODE, AND THERE'S ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT. BECAUSE ITS BEAUTY AND YOU CAN, UM, PROBABLY THE ONE THING I HAVE A LITTLE BIT HARD TAKEOVER IS IN THE AREA , SEE THE CHANGES TO SETBACKS AND ON SIDE AND FRONT. UM YOU KNOW, THE ONE HERE COMPLAINT I HEAR OFTEN IS HOUSES THESE DAYS ARE BEATEN, BUILT ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. I. I DON'T LIKE THE REDUCTION FROM OUR CODE MINIMUMS . ITS MINOR. IT'S 7.5 TO 5 FRONT SIDE BACK 25 TO 30. THAT'S MY OWN OPINION. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT MORE IN LINE WITH WITH WITH OUR OUR CITY STANDARDS. IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS OR IF THE CITY I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE YOU'VE REVIEWED THIS I MEAN, DUDE. UM IN SO. PLUS. UM I'M ALSO OKAY WITH BRINGING THE HOUSE. SIMPLE STRENGTH TOGETHER. UM. THOSE CLOSE TO HER. DISTRICT. UM SO I KNOW WE'RE ALSO CONTROL THAT TOO. YEAH I THINK YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT. YEAH, SURE. YEAH I THINK THE FRONT I MEAN 25 TO 30 IS NOT THAT BIG DEAL. IT'S MORE THE SIDE TO SIDE JUST APPEARANCE OF HOUSES BEING SO CLOSE TOGETHER. AND YES, DO I USE MY SIDE YARD MUCH? REALLY NOT. BUT I CAN'T HELP ADDRESS THAT WE CAN GO. WE CAN GO INTO THIS DISCUSSION IS DEEPLY AS YOU WANT. SO I'VE BEEN A B I A TRUSTEE FOR NINE YEARS. AND THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ALL OVER TOWN. SO, ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 2.5 FT, WHICH IS ABOUT THAT DISTANCE ON EACH SIDE OF THE HOUSE. UM AND THAT IS 5 FT BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORS. UM I KNOW MY MOTHER AND MYSELF WOULD PROBABLY PREFER LARGE LOTS, LARGER LOTS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS BUT I WILL TELL YOU AND I'M PARTIALLY BLAMED FOR THIS BECAUSE I'VE CREATED TWO OF THEM. THE MILLENNIALS DON'T FEEL THAT WAY. SO THE MILLENNIALS DON'T FEEL THAT WAY. BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY AND HAVING DEVELOPED YOUR OWN VILLAGE. WE HAVE, UM, PODS IN JEROME VILLAGE, WHICH IS A VERY HIGH END DEVELOPMENT. UM THAT HAVE FIVE YARDS OR 5. FT.

SETBACKS ARE 50 FT. LOTS IN JEROME VILLAGE, HAVE FIVE YARDS OR 5 FT SIDE YARD SETBACKS AND ARE 6065. AND WHEN I SAY ARE MY PRONOUNS ARE OFF WORK FOR NATIONWIDE FOR 36 YEARS. I LEFT A COUPLE YEARS AGO BUT STILL FEEL VERY, UM, VERY PROUD ABOUT THAT DEVELOPMENT. SO WE'VE ADDRESSED THOSE. WE HAVE LARGER LOTS WHEN YOU GET INTO THE MILLION DOLLAR HOUSES THAT HAVE ATTENDED 15 FT. SIDE YARDS, UM, COLUMBUS SOCIETY YARD CAPITAL OF THE WORLD FOR THIS ISSUE, AND A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE CLEANED THAT PHRASE WHEN THEY WANT LARGER SIDE YARDS, BUT NOBODY USES THEM. THE ONLY COMPANY IN CENTRAL HOLIDAY ACTUALLY USE THE SIDE YARD AS KHAN KHAN HAS A ZERO LOT LINE PLAN, AND THEY USE THEIR OUTDOOR LIVING SPACE FOR ONE CONDO TO BE IN THE SIDE YARD THAT GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE ACTUAL PROPERTY LINE AND THE WALL FOR THE NEXT ONE, AND THEY

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THEY'VE GOT MARRIED, AND NOW THEY'RE ALL MIGRATING OUT TO THE SUBURBS, SO THEY HAVE ESSENTIALLY LIVED BESIDE THEIR NEIGHBOR BETWEEN A TWO BY FOUR AND TWO HALF INCH SHEETS OF DRYWALL. NOW THE APARTMENTS WERE BUILT IN THE GREEN DISTRICT GRAVEYARD. WE WERE TOP NOTCH. WE DID THREE QUARTER INCH DRYWALL, SO IT WAS ESSENTIALLY YOU KNOW 5.5 6 INCHES APART, BUT THEY'VE LIVED THERE FOR 67 YEARS. I CAN ATTEST THAT MY KIDS HAVE NEVER MOWED MY YARD. UM MY MILLENNIAL KIDS HAVE NEVER MOANED MY YARD. UM AND THEY DON'T THEY VALUE THEIR TIME MORE THAN MANICURING AND MAINTAINING YARDS AND THOSE THINGS, SO THEY WANT SMALLER HOUSES, SMALLER LOTS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS SO IT IS A TREND. SOME PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT SOME PEOPLE DO NOT I GET THIS COMMENT, MICHAEL. I GET THIS COMMENT ALL OVER THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. UM EFFORTS AND ABSOLUTE DEAL CHANGER BECAUSE AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCT IS GOING TO GO UP THERE. UM I'VE WALKED THAT FARM FIELD. IT IS SPECTACULAR. IT IS COMPLETELY WOULD IT IN, UM AND THE PARCEL THAT GOES OFF INTO THE OTHER OWNERS. GROUND ALSO CONTINUES THAT SO IF THERE'S GOING TO BE HIGH END, HOUSING IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE IN THAT LOCATION.

BUT THE DEVELOPMENT AND ACCESS AND UTILITIES OF THAT COULD BE 3 TO 5 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE IT'S NOT A BIG ENOUGH SECTION TO BE ABLE TO DRAG THE UTILITIES FROM THE PUMP STATION ALL THE WAY UP THERE WITHOUT SOME SORT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, HELPING WITH THE ROADS AND THOSE EXPENSES. SO WE ARE ASKING FOR FIVE YARDS. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ZONE.

WE'RE JUST RESERVING THAT CAPABILITY OF HAVING THE MOST FLEXIBILITY, NOT KNOWING WHAT IT IS. EMBARKED. THAT'LL JUST BE A MINIMUM, RIGHT. SO THAT IS A MINIMUM MINIMUM. SO WHEN THAT DEVELOPMENT CAME THROUGH HIS I REVIEW BOARD THAT WOULD BE SHOWN ON IN EXACTLY WHAT IS THAT SIDE YARD LOOK LIKE SO, DEPENDING ON THAT SIZE OF THE HOUSE, OR THAT FINAL LAYOUT THAT COULD VARY, AND THAT'S THAT'S ALSO WHY THAT WE'RE SHOWING THAT WE HAVE AN APPROXIMATE, UM, WHERE YOU'RE COMMITTING TO A 20% COMMON AREAS, SO YOUR COMMON AREAS 10. SO IF YOU ALLOW US TO TAKE 2.5 FT, OFF OF EACH SIDE OF THE HOUSE, WE'RE GOING TO DOUBLE THE COMMON AREA. I'M SORRY. THE OPEN SPACE. I GOT TO GET THESE TERMS THE OPEN SPACE THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT THAT AREA INTO A MORE USABLE. OKAY SO LET'S ARGUMENT NUMBER ONE MILLENNIALS. DON'T LET ONE OF THEM, ETCETERA. YOU GOTTA MOW, MAINTAIN THEM IN THOSE OTHER THINGS. UM THE OTHER PIECES. EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW COSTLY NEW HOUSING IS. OKAY SIDE GUARD SETBACKS. UM YOU'VE GOT TO NOT ONLY TAKE A PORTION OF YOUR GROUND AND HAVE 5 FT. ADDITIONAL GROUND THAT GOES INTO THE PRICING PERSON. YOU ALSO HAVE SIDEWALKS. YOU HAVE THE EXTENSION OF THE WATER. THE SEWER, THE ROAD, THE CURB THE GUTTERS THAT GO UNDERNEATH THE GROUND, ETCETERA. IT COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 1200 TO $2000 A LINEAR FOOT IN ORDER TO DO THAT. SO YOU'RE INCREASING THE PRICE FOR JUST 2.5 FT ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS HOUSE. YOU COULD BE INCREASING THE PRICE BY 5 $6000 JUST FOR THAT PIECE ALONE, UM, NOT THE MAJOR ISSUE, BUT ALL OF THIS GOES INTO THE PRICING OF A HOME AND LARGER SIDE YARD. SETBACKS DO THAT, ESPECIALLY IF SOMEBODY'S NOT GOING TO BENEFIT AND THE ONLY THING ANYBODY EVER DOES IS PLANT GRASS AND THEN PUT BUSHES TO HIDE YOUR UTILITIES.

SO THAT'S THE SECOND CASE MAY ONLY BE MY CONCERN, SO THAT'S FINE. OTHER QUESTIONS. COMMENTS WERE BACK ON THAT A LITTLE. I THINK THAT YOU KNOW FOR THIS PIECE TUCKED IN THE CORNER, NOT A HUGE DEAL, BUT WE'RE KIND OF SETTING A PRECEDENT. FOR WHAT I'M SURE THE NEXT ACCUSATION COMES IN. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE SAME. SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND THEN IT BECOMES AN ISSUE WHEN IT BECOMES THE ENTIRE NEXT EXHIBITION IS, UM YES. COULD HAVE DIFFERENT ROLES. WE CAN GET ANOTHER BITE AT IT, BUT UNDERSTANDING I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT. THAT WOULD BE ANNEXATION NUMBER THREE, WHICH WOULD START MORE OF THE RESIDENTIAL. I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UM IT WILL HAVE PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL AND IT WILL HAVE DIFFERENT SIDE GUARD SETBACKS, NOT SAYING THAT FIVE WOULDN'T BE ONE OF THE FOUR PRODUCTS. BUT THEY WILL VARY AND THE SKETCH PLAN WILL START OUT AT A HIGH LEVEL AND THEN DEVELOPMENT PLAN WILL ACTUALLY BRING YOU PODS. THAT'S THE EASY PART. THIS IS THE HARD PART WHEN I'M TRYING TO GUESS AS TO WHAT I NEED TO ZONE IT, 3 TO 5 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. I MEAN, MAYBE MARYSVILLE ONE TINY HOUSES AT THAT POINT IN TIME. I'M JOKING. UM BECAUSE I CAN ONLY DO I CAN ONLY DO

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UM THAT 100 FT. OF THAT WILL BE LEFT ON BOTH THE RIGHT HAND SIDE AND 33 AND THE REST WILL BE DEMOLISHED PREDICATED ON TWO ASSESSMENTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE. SO WE ARE DOING THE ARCADIA ARCHAEOLOGICAL ASSESSMENT RIGHT NOW. ESSENTIALLY IN THE NON WOODED AREAS, YOU DRAG A PLAN THROUGH AND YOU LOOK ARROWHEADS. WITHIN THAT WHAT? IT'S SECTION BEFORE IT COULD ACTUALLY BE CUT DOWN BECAUSE IT'S BEING DONE FOR DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE TO DO A 50 FT GRID ALL THE WAY THROUGH. THE TOP. POSTAL DIGGER AND SURGERY, THAT THE OTHER ASSESSMENT THAT WE HAVE TO DO ON THAT GROUND AS WELL. SO WE HAVE FOLKS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, ACTUALLY LAST WEEK LOOKING AT THAT ROUND, SO THE MAJORITY OF THOSE TREES THERE ARE UNIFIED IN OUR EXISTING ADDITION, PLAN AS COMING DOWN THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT IN THE PROTECTED CATEGORY OF I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE A QUICK ANSWER. I'M SORRY. I DON'T WANT TO START INTO A BACK AND FORTH SET A PRECEDENT HERE, SO THE ANSWER IS POSSIBLY DEPENDING ON INVESTIGATION ON BOTH SIDES OF THE 33 AND THAT WILL BE SAVED. UM, AND WE CAN ISSUE THAT BASED ON THE CITY OR FIRST AND THERE ARE OPINIONS IN THERE WITH THE ONE TRUE TRUE. BUT IN THOSE SITUATIONS WE WOULD NOT PUT ARE MOUNTING AND ART WOULD GET THAT. BUT WE PUT THAT AUTHORITY WITH THE CITY. FARMERS SHOULD MAKE THAT SENSE. OKAY SECTION IN THE ATTACKS RELATED TO TREAT PRESERVATION, AND WE ASKED THEM TO. PLAYER RESPONSE WAS ON. OUR LAST COMMENT WAS TO UM ADD THE REQUIREMENT FOR ADDITIONAL TREES

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LOOKING THROUGH THE 2018 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THERE WAS NO PUDE ES EVER MENTIONED. IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE MINUTES AND BACK IN 2020. THERE WAS A BRAINSTORMING SESSION TAKING PLACE WHERE PIG YOU D S WERE BROUGHT UP AND OBVIOUSLY STARTING TO BE IMPLEMENTED, AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT TODAY'S GENDER ALSO, OVERALL P U D S P U. D S BEING USED TO SIMPLIFY ZONING. OR TO LET DEVELOPERS HAVE MORE OPTIONS AND HOW THEY WANT TO DEVELOP THE LAND. ALONG THOSE LINES, P. U. D S SINCE THEY SEEM TO HAVE GAINED POPULARITY WITHIN THE COUNTY. WHAT IS THE COMMISSION'S DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE BEING PROPERLY MONITORED OR CONTROLLED? TO HAVE A LONG LIST OF ALL THESE ITEMS. YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU SIGN YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER HAS FREE REIGN TO DOING WHATEVER HE OR SHE WOULD LIKE TO DO FOR THE CORPORATION. THAT'S MY OPINION. UM IN REGARDING TIFFS. SINCE THAT SEEMS TO BE A BIG SUBJECT AROUND MARYSVILLE. UM I'M ASSUMING THIS COMMISSION IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR TIFFS WERE NOT VERY GOOD. AND THEN LAST THING IS, YOU KNOW THIS, UH, LAST MEETING WAS THE LIGHT MANUFACTURING WAS. NOTED AS AN INNOVATION PARK AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE AN INNOVATION PARK THAT'S ALARM INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY. IT'S CALLED ROUTE 33. WHY ARE WE EXPANDING INTO RESIDENTIAL AREAS? BECAUSE THE 2018 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE THIS SHOWS THAT THE ANNEX ONE AND ANNEX TO OUR PLAN TO BE RESIDENTIAL OR AGRICULTURE AND SO ALONG THOSE LINES FOR REFERRING TO THE 2018 PLAN, AND NOT THE MASTER PLAN THAT I REFER TO WHY ARE WE NOT FOLLOWING THAT GUIDELINE THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER BACK IN 2018 AS A GUIDE. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE. YES MA'AM. AND I NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN, UM RAISE RIGHT HAND THE SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, WHOLE TRUTH UNDER PENALTY OF LAW. ALL OF WHAT? YOU TOLD HER? YES, VERY MUCH. EMILY HEIST 13630 WATKINS ROAD, UM, ECHOING WHAT MR JENKINS SAID ABOUT WHY ARE WE EXPANDING ACROSS 33? I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD MOVE THE INNOVATION INTO THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE

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UM IT'S A DIFFERENCE OF SEEING DIRECTLY INTO MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE. AND MAYBE NOT. I CAN PLANT QUITE A BIT IN 5 FT. TO BLOCK THAT. IF I DON'T WANT MY SIDE YARD, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATE. ANY OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE SUBJECT? YES, MA'AM. OKAY, SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND THE FORMAT BEFORE MY TIME STARTS. DO WE ASK QUESTIONS ? YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS RECORD THEM , AND THEN THEY ARE ANSWERED IN ORDER LIKE, WHAT'S WHAT'S THE FORMAT HERE? WE TRIED TO ALL OF THEM ARE THE BEST. YES UM, ONCE SUSAN COMMENTS ARE CLOSED, WILL BRING BAR BACK UP AND WE WILL GO THROUGH THE QUESTIONS AND LET HIM ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY, I SAID, BECAUSE I HAVE LIKE 40 QUESTIONS HERE. OKAY. I DIDN'T COUNT THAT. I'M JUST SAYING, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW. LIMIT IS ONE WE TRY TO DO FOR PUBLIC WORKERS AND JUST SO MAKE SURE THAT WE KIND OF COVER EVERYTHING. AND WE NEED YOU OKAY? ALL RIGHT. HERE WE GO. THIS IS KIND OF A STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS. AS I SAW THESE PLANS BEING PRESENTED UM SO ONE I WANT TO ASK SPECIFICATION ON THE TREE MITIGATION. IF THERE IS ANY YEP, SORRY. JENNY ADKINS 15163 US 36 DIRECTLY NORTH OF THIS INNOVATION DISTRICT. UM. SO I WANT TO ASK WHAT THE CITY'S CODE IS ON TREE PRESERVATION AND MITIGATION REQUIRED IF THERE'S ANY TBH REQUIREMENTS OR THRESHOLDS. AND IF THEY ARE REPLACED, WILL THEY BE NATIVE AND APPROPRIATE TO THE EGO REGION THAT WE LIVE IN? YOU CAN ANSWER YES TO THAT. OKAY, E CULTIVARS. THAT STUFF. UM AND THEN THE COMMON AREAS THAT ARE REFERRED TO IN THE SINGLE FAMILY , UM, HOME AREA. IS THAT ACTUALLY A DETENTION POND? IS THAT A PARK? LIKE WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE AS A COMMON AREA? IS IT A BIG POND IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW. UM AND I WOULD ALSO AGREE WITH EMILY THAT THE SIDE YARD IS IMPORTANT. AND I AM ALSO A MILLENNIAL, AND I APPRECIATE THAT I CAN PLANT A GARDEN POLLINATOR HABITAT, UM, ACCESS FOR DECORATIONS OUR COMMUNITY WITH MY NEIGHBORS THAT I DON'T HAVE TO BE DIRECTLY TOUCHING THE HOUSE WITH MY HAND AND IF THEY'RE THAT CLOSE THE MULTI USE TRAILS THAT ARE HUGGING THE WATERWAYS. IS THERE ANY PLANS TO HAVE A SETBACK FROM THOSE WATERWAYS? THERE IS A DITCH THAT WASN'T MENTIONED AS A WATERWAY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE INNOVATION DISTRICT. THERE WAS A STREAM THAT WAS SEMI REFERRED TO AS THE PRESERVATION PART ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE DISTRICT. AND THAT PAVED TRAIL WILL BE HUGGING THAT. IS THERE ANY ACCOMMODATION

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A WIDER MORE SHALLOWLY. UM DESIGNED BERM OR, UM, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO REFER TO THAT, AS UM , AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU PLAN TO SHIELD CURRENT LANDOWNERS FROM LIGHT AND NOISE POLLUTION CAUSED BY THESE COMMERCIAL COMPLEXES OF THERE'S OFTEN FLOOD LIGHTS, STREET LIGHTS. COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY TO BE ON IN THE FIRST PLACE. UM BUT THOSE TRYING ALL NIGHT LONG AND THAT IS REALLY DETRIMENTAL TO WILDLIFE, AS WELL AS PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO ENJOY MARYSVILLE AS A SEMI RURAL AREA. AND I ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHAT PROTECTIONS ARE GOING TO BE SET FOR THE DITCH THAT IS RUNNING THROUGH SUB AREA BE THAT WASN'T MENTIONED AS PART OF THE PROTECTION AREA. IN FACT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST GONNA LAND RIGHT ON TOP OF IT. UH UM, AS PART OF THE TRAFFIC STUDIES. ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO WIDEN WATKINS AND 36 IN THE AREAS THAT ARE.

EITHER DIRECTLY ADJACENT OR IN LINE WITH THESE PLANNED ANNEXATIONS. AND HOW WILL THAT AFFECT THE LANDOWNERS THAT TOUCH THOSE PORTIONS OF THE ROADWAY CURRENTLY. UM AND ALSO WHAT IS THE NEED FOR AN ADDITIONAL INNOVATION DISTRICT? AS PEOPLE HAVE SAID HERE, THIS WAS PLANNED FOR A DIFFERENT LAND USE. AND SO WHO ARE THE COMPANIES AND THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE UM, APPROACHING MARY AS WELL SAYING, WE'VE GOT PLANS FOR THIS SPACE AND YOU KNOW. WHO'S WANTING TO MOVE IN THAT WE FEEL THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THE CHANGE FOR THAT. UM. AND THEN ALSO, I WAS CURIOUS WHO THE CONSULTANT WAS FOR THE WETLANDS STUDIES AND THE HYDROLOGIC STUDIES. AND I'M CURIOUS HOW THE STORM WATER IS PLANNING TO BE MANAGED AND ALSO WITH THE WETLAND LOSSES THAT ARE UNDOUBTEDLY OCCURRING ON THESE PROPERTIES. GOING TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR IN SOMETHING OTHER THAN JUST PAYING A FEE FOR DESTROYING THE WETLANDS AND THAT WATER STORAGE CAPACITY TO THE WATERSHED. OR WILL IT BE MITIGATED ON SITE? UM OR PERHAPS . THOUGHTFULLY PLANNED INTO THESE COMMUNITIES. SORRY THAT'S IT, FOLKS. THAT WAS ON MY QUESTIONS ANYWAYS. OKAY FANTASTIC. ALRIGHT OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME. SEEN THEM COME BACK UP, AND I KNOW YOU WORKED ON A LOT OF STUFF. SEVERAL OF US WERE DONE QUITE A BIT OF STUFF. YEAH YOU WANT TO HEAR YOURS FIRST? MARCA YEAH, THAT'S OKAY. THE FIRST SPEAKER FROM A FROM A P U D STAND PART THE PURPOSE OF THE P U D, UM BECAUSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT SUB AREAS IN HERE TO ZONE EACH OF THESE SUB AREAS UNDER YOUR STANDARD ZONING WOULD BE DIFFICULT. SO THE PURPOSE OF THE P U D IS REALLY FOR A MIXED USE OR A MASTER PLANNED AREA AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, UM , PROTECTING THE COMMON AREAS INDEED, SINGLE FAMILY AND SEE THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. SO IF I WERE TO BRING THIS THROUGH, IT WOULD BE FIVE INDIVIDUAL SECTIONS OF FI BROUGHT IT DIRECTLY THROUGH THE BASIS OF OUR TEXT IN THE P U. D IS THE BASIS OF THE MAJORITY OF YOUR CODE. WE'RE NOT EXCLUDING UM OR WRITING A LOT OF NEW TEXTS, MOST OF IT WHEN YOU GET TO SIGNS, LANDSCAPING AND ALL THOSE THINGS WE ACTUALLY REFER TO THE CODE THAT YOU HAVE, AND THEN SAY, HERE ARE ANY EXCEPTIONS. UM FOR EXAMPLE, THE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE NORTH OF 5 FT IS AN EXCEPTION TO THAT, AND WE IDENTIFY THAT, BUT THEY'VE BEEN MAJORITY OF WHAT WE'RE USING IS USING THE EXISTING CODE. IT'S JUST TO MASTER PLAN A SINGLE AREA LIKE THIS AND BRING IT THROUGH AS A P U D THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY FOR IS THE MIXED JUICE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF ACTUALLY WANTS TO ADD ANY MORE TO THAT. SO I'M JUST NOT FAMILIAR WAS PUDE. ONE WAS PEUT ADDED TO OUR ZONING, OR HAS IT ALWAYS BEEN? OKAY WHAT MORE ABSOLUTELY READ THIS ZONING CODE 21. WE TARGETED

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SO THE COM PLAN DOES A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF WHERE THOSE ITEMS SHOULD BE WITHIN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. WHAT THE COMPLAINT DOESN'T DO IS IT DOESN'T LOOK AT PROPERTY LINES AND WHERE YOU KNOW ONE OFF HOUSES COULD BE OR WHO OWNS IS SOMETIMES IT'LL TAKE A MIXED USE AND PUT IT RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF AN INDIVIDUAL FARMERS FIELD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IT'S NOT MEANT TO DO THAT DETAIL BECAUSE IT'S MEANT TO BE A REALLY HIGH LEVEL. WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING IN JEROME VILLAGE IS THE BEST EXAMPLE. IS I COME IN, AND I DO MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENTS. SO WE TAKE LARGER TRACTS OF GROUND AND THEN WE SAY , OKAY, WHAT TYPE OF BUILDERS WHAT TYPE OF USES AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS AND WE START TO DEVELOP MASTER PLANTS. THIS IS A MASTER PLAN FOR ANNEXATION NUMBER ONE. WE HAVE ANNEXATION NUMBER TWO THAT WE'VE ALREADY BROUGHT AND SHOWING A LITTLE BIT OF THE MASTER PLAN. ANNEXATION NUMBER THREE IS NORTH OF 36, AND IT WILL BE MORE RESIDENTIAL, BUT WE ARE FOLLOWING THE COM PLAN, NOT BY INDIVIDUAL PARCEL BECAUSE THE COMPLAINT DIDN'T LOOK AT IT. BUT THE COM PLANT IN MARYSVILLE HAS A DESIRE TO HAVE INDUSTRIAL ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF 33. IT SHOWS RESIDENTIAL IN THIS AREA AS WELL. IT SHOWS RETAIL ALONG 36 NOT AND IT ACTUALLY REFERS TO NOT BIG BOX RETAIL BUT RESIDENTIAL RETAIL AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS AND IT SHOWS RETAIL DOWN AT SCOTTS LAWN. SO WE START WITH THE COMPLAINT. AND THEN WE GO INTO A MASTER PLANNING PROCESS, WORKING WITH THE LANDOWNERS THAT ARE FOR SALE AND HOW YOU WOULD FIT THAT OUR MASTER PLAN. PUTS HIGHER DENSITY AROUND THE CORE BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T WANT US SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES RIGHT UP AGAINST LOWS, YOU KNOW, ON THE BACKSIDE OF LOWS, THESE RESIDENTS MAY NOT WANT INDUSTRIAL RIGHT BESIDE THEM. SO WE'RE BUFFERING USING THE MULTI FAMILY HERE TO BUFFER THE EXISTING RESIDENTS. NOW ANY RESIDENTIAL UH, USER THAT COMES INTO OUR MULTI FAMILY PROJECT WILL KNOW THAT THE INDUSTRIAL IS ALREADY THERE. SO WE DO SOME OF THE BUFFERS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS SO THERE IS A CLEAR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT THE CITY WOULD DO ANY MASTER PLAN THE OTHER PIECE THAT IF YOU DIDN'T MASTER PLAN THESE AREAS, EACH PARCEL WHETHER IT'S 100 ACRES OR 200 ACRES. WOULDN'T BE, UH, DEVELOPER DRIVEN, SO SAY A PARTICULAR BUILDER GOT IT THAT BUILDS ONE PRODUCT IF THEY GOT CONTROL OF THAT GROUND, THEY WOULD WANT TO BUILD THEIR PRODUCT AND YOU DON'T GET A DIVERSE PRODUCT OR A MIXED USE. WHEN YOU DO IT, PIECE BY PIECE, AND WEAVER WROTE, IS PROBABLY THE BEST EXAMPLE YOU'VE PROBABLY GOT THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT ALL

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THE OTHER PIECE IS MARYSVILLE UTILITIES AND ANNEXATION. IT STOPS AT THE SCOTS BUILDING THAT THE 1.3 MILLION SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT IS BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW IN INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY.

SO WHEN YOU PROCEED THERE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO JEROME TOWNSHIP. THEY'RE NOT UTILITIES THERE TO SERVICE THAT PROPERTY SO YEAH. EXTENDED STAY HOTEL. THAT'S A CONDITIONAL USE. IT'S NOT OUR INTENT TO HAVE AN EXTENT TO STAY HOTEL. I AGREE WITH WHOEVER HAD HAD SAID THAT, UM, THE EXTENDED STAY HOTEL AS YOU CONTINUE TO ADD ANNEXATION TO ONTO IT, AND IN THIS SUB AREA WOULD PROBABLY BE DOWN AT THE INTERSECTION. BUT WE'RE TALKING 5 TO 10 YEARS PLAN , SO IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE, SO IT WAS A CONDITIONAL USE UNDER THOSE PARTICULAR SUB AREAS AND SECTIONS OF YOUR CODE, SO WE JUST DUPLICATED HERE, BUT IT'S NOT OUTER INTEND TO HAVE US AT EXTENDED. STAY HERE. THAT EXTENDED STAY HOTEL WANTS TO BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 36 AND OR AT COLEMAN'S CROSSING AND IN THOSE TYPE OF AREAS AND I DO BELIEVE YOU'RE CITY COUNCIL IS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT WHERE THEY WANT HOTELS WITHIN THE CITY AS WELL. HMM. HOW DO YOU FEEL THE TREES AND MOUNTING ON A 2 TO 3 FT MOUND OR A 6 FT. MOUND WITH A 50 FT DEPTH THAT PROVIDES YOU SCALE THESE WILL BE ALL NATIVE TREES WILL WORK WITH THE ARBORIST TO DEFINE THOSE WE DON'T PUT IN HECK, BERRIES AND SHAGGED BY PARKS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ACTUALLY USED TO PUT HONEYSUCKLE IN AS AS BARRIERS AND WE DON'T DO ANY OF THAT. SO ALL OF THE TREES THAT WE PUT HERE STREET TREES WITHIN THE INDIVIDUAL PODS , AND THOSE THINGS WILL ALL BE NATIVE TO THE AREA. IT WAS A LOT OF LOWER CITY REQUIREMENTS FOR ST LOUIS, REQUIREMENTS WITH THE CITY HARVEST WOULD REVIEW THE REST OF IT AS WELL. IF THERE'S ANYTHING ADDITIONAL IN THERE, THAT'S CORRECT, WITH WITH ONE EXCEPTION, AND IT'S VERY COMMON IN CENTRAL OHIO, EVERGREENS AND PINE TREES ARE NOT NATIVE TO OHIO. UM BUT IT'S VERY ACCEPTABLE SO THE EVERGREENS WILL WILL BE PART OF THAT, BUT ARE NOT CONCERNED NATIVE IN CENTRAL OHIO. UM HMM. SO ANY HIGHER THAN A 6 FT MOUND, UM, THAT BECOMES DIFFICULT. THE HEIGHT OF THE TREES WERE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED. I MEAN, IF WE PLANT OAKS AND MAPLES, THEY'RE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, AND 1015 YEARS. I MEAN, 2030 40 FT, SO YOU GIVE THEM ROOM TO GROW THE OTHER PIECES? UM OH, THIS IS FARM FIELD IS VERY PRODUCTIVE FARM FIELDS, ETCETERA. SO WE'RE GONNA MOUNT WITH THE TOPSOIL. THE AREAS THAT MOUNTING DOESN'T DO WELL IS WHEN YOU HAVE TO DIG A DETENTION POND ON A SMALL SITE AND THAT GROUND COMES OUT OF THE DETENTION POND,

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WE HAVE A SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH MARYSVILLE. AS PART OF THIS ANNEXATION. I BELIEVE THE ANNEXATION PART WILL BE MARYSVILLE WILL MAINTAIN THAT THAT'S CORRECT. YES CITY COUNCILS ARE IN THE APPROVED THE STATEMENT OF SERVICES AND SENT THEM ON TO THE COUNTY AND THE DEVELOPED PART OF THAT WE WOULD MAINTAIN 33 TO THE ANNEXATION LIMITS AND THAT'S MAINTAIN IT.

WE MADE IT WE MADE. YEAH EXACTLY . YEAH, IT'S JUST AN EXTENSION AND MAINTAIN IS SNOWPLOW AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS YOU'RE ACTUALLY NOT REPLACING THE ROAD. THE STABLE OHIO STILL WOULD REPLACE THE ROAD. THE STATE'S DOING THAT WORK OVER THE NEXT 2 TO 3 YEARS. THAT'S CORRECT. UM SUB AREA A BOTH THE TOWN HOMES AND THE APARTMENTS WILL BE RENTALS. UM THEY WILL BE DEVELOPED BY ROCKFORD DEVELOPMENT OR ROCKFORD HOMES. THEY OWN A VERY LARGE PORTFOLIO.

THEY MAINTAIN THEIR OWN THEIR APARTMENT COMPLEXES THEY BUILD FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. UM HE SOLD OFF A RECENT APARTMENT PORTFOLIO OF 1520 UNITS OR 1520 PROJECTS. AND THEY HAD ON THOSE FOR 3035 YEARS. SO THIS IS PART OF ROCKFORD HOMES. HE'S THE LARGEST PRIVATE HOME DEVELOPER IN CENTRAL HIGHWAY. TREE CODE, UM, THE TREES THAT ARE AVAILABLE , ETCETERA OR DEFINED BY THE ART PERSON, THE CITY CODE, AND THEY WILL BE NATIVE UM, THE COMMON AREAS THAT ARE HERE. SOMEONE WOULD BE DETENTION PONDS. BUT LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GOING TO PUT FOUNTAINS. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THEM AMENITIES THE COMMON AREAS WHEN THE SUB AREA A WILL BE PRIVATE COMMON AREAS FOR THE RENTERS NO DIFFERENT THAN COLEMAN'S CROSSING, OR I'M SORRY, KENMORE PLACE. OR MARYSVILLE FLATS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS THAT PULLS ONLY FOR THE ACTUAL RENTERS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS BUT THE PUBLIC AREA AND THE BIKE TRAILS AND THE TRAIL SYSTEM THAT WILL BE UP AROUND SUB AREA D AND WILL ULTIMATELY BE ALONE. WATKINS ROAD WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ALL RESIDENTS, WHETHER YOU'RE IN MARYSVILLE AND EVEN THE TOWNSHIP RESIDENTS THAT THEY'RE OVER IN IN BUXTON MEDAL. UM CREEK SETBACKS THE CREEK SETBACKS OR 25 FT. THE AREA THAT WE'RE PROTECTING IS WELL BEYOND 25 FT, BUT WE WILL GO THROUGH THAT JURISDICTIONAL ASSESSMENT ON ALL THE WETLANDS, ALL THE CREEKS. UM WE MAY NOT IDENTIFY ANYTHING, BUT WE WILL GO THROUGH THAT ASSESSMENT AND WILL WORK WITH THE ARMY CORPS AND WE WILL WORK WITH THE EPA IN ORDER TO DIVIDE DEFINE THE TYPE OF PROTECTIONS THAT WE HAVE TO USE. DEPENDING ON WHETHER THOSE ARE JUST FIND AS JURISDICTIONAL, UM OR OR JUST JUST LATERALS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS, SO THERE'S A WHOLE PROCESS, BUT THAT PROCESS WON'T BE UNDERTAKEN UNTIL WE ACTUALLY DEFINE THE USES AND THE PARCELS THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DEVELOPED WITHIN THERE, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING HIM RIGHT NOW. DITCH IN SIBERIA BE TRAFFIC STUDY SO WATKINS ROAD SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH A TRAFFIC STUDY RIGHT NOW. IT'S A REQUIREMENT FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH KYLE FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS ON THIS, AND WE PULLED ALL THE DATA WHILE THE KIDS WERE IN SCHOOL BECAUSE YOU WANT THAT TRAFFIC AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY. WE'RE NOW ENDING THE PROCESS OF COLLECTING THE DATA AND THEN WE'LL START ANALYZING IT. UM I DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WATKINS ROAD NEEDS TO BE WIDENED. SO WATKINS ROAD WILL BE WIDENED, PROBABLY TO AN 80 OR 100. FT IT'LL PROBABLY BE THREE, MAYBE FOUR LANES THAT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE COUNTY ENGINEER, THE CITY ENGINEER. IN THIS PROCESS. THERE WILL BE A NEW ROAD LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE. THAT WILL GO SOMEWHERE ON THAT PORTION OF WALK INS ROAD AND WE'LL HEAD SOUTH TO SCOTTS LAWN. UM AND THAT WILL BE A BRAND NEW ROAD, WHICH WILL ACTUALLY BE 80 TO 100 FT. WIDE IT WILL PROBABLY BE THREE LANES AS WELL COULD BE DIFFERENT. AND AGAIN. THE ANALYSIS WILL SHOW THAT BUT, UM THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMING. THERE WILL BE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE MADE AT THE 36 INTERSECTION UM AND WATKINS ROAD IN 36 AS WELL AS SOME OTHERS. IF YOU LOOKED AT THAT AREA ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLANE THAT WAS SHOWN UP HERE EARLIER. IT WAS ALREADY DOWN, OR IT WAS ALREADY GRADED A D. SO THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED TODAY, NOT TO MENTION US AND WE WILL WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH THE COUNTY OR THAT PROCESS WITH CITY ENGINEER TO DEFINE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS THERE AND HOW MUCH THAT WE ACTUALLY FIND. AH NEED FOR HAD STORMWATER PROCESS. SO UM, ONCE WE ONCE WE START TO SELL INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS, WE WILL DO DETERMINE WHERE THE DETENTION PONDS GO. THAT WILL BE BASED ON WHERE WATER RUNS THEIR DETENTION PONDS THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED HERE WILL NOT LET ANY MORE WATER GO INTO THE CREEK THAN ALREADY IS ANALYZED IN. THAT PROCESS OF ACTUALLY DETERMINING WHAT THE STORMWATER PROCESSES BUT THAT WILL INVOLVE THE CITY ENGINEER BECAUSE WE'RE UP AGAINST THE TOWNSHIP. IT WILL

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IT'S LIGHT MANUFACTURING AND IT'S INNOVATION. UM AND WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF EXAMPLES OF BUSINESSES AND STUFF THAT THAT WE CAN SHARE THAT DOES THAT BUT THE LIGHT WE'RE FOLLOWING YOUR CODE AND ESSENTIALLY WILL TRACK AND WE'LL DO PHOTO METRIC PLANS. UM THAT ACTUALLY SHOW THAT THE LIGHT RIGHT BEHIND THE CAMERA OR RIGHT BEHIND THE FIXTURE IS ACTUALLY DOWNGRADE. NOW IF YOU'RE A MILE AWAY FROM SCOTT'S, CAN YOU SEE LIGHTS ON THE WAREHOUSE? ABSOLUTELY. WHAT DOES IT ACTUALLY IMPACT YOUR HOUSE, AND THAT SORT OF STUFF WILL FOLLOW THE CITY'S CODES FOR THAT. WE DID NOT CHANGE A LOT OF THAT, SO WE'LL FOLLOW THE CITY CODE FROM THAT. AND FROM NOISE STANDPOINT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A NOISE CODE, BUT THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE, UM, NOISY FACTORY TYPE OF ABUSES. THERE WAS ANOTHER COMMENT ABOUT HELP YOU. THESE ARE MONITORED SO AS INDIVIDUAL SECTIONS ARE BROUGHT IN FRONT OF ZONING OR DESIGN REVIEW WARD. WE HAVE THE EU DE LANGUAGE. AND WE MAKE SURE THAT ANY PROPERTY WITHIN THESE ZONES ARE FOLLOWING THAT, AND THEN DURING THE BUILDING PROCESS. THAT'S YEAH, THEY GO THROUGH THE KIND OF STANDARD BUILDING PROCESS THAT EVERY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY GOES THROUGH WHETHER THAT'S STREET ZONING FOR RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT GETS REVIEWED, UM AT ENGINEERING FOLLOWING DESIGN REVIEW BOARD GOES THROUGH ENGINEERING PERMITTING A ZONING PERMIT. WE GO OUT AND SURE EVERYTHING'S CONSTRUCTED CORRECTLY. UM AND THEN THERE ENFORCEMENT. UM CONTINUES TO REVIEW THAT PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE AND REFERS BACK TO THAT PARTICULAR ZONING CODE IF THERE'S AN ISSUE ON THE PROPERTY THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE P U. D S PROCESS STOPS AT THE END OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND JUST LIKE ANY SINGLE ZONING, EVERYTHING ELSE FROM THAT POINT FORWARD IS THE SAME. SO ON SUDBURY A. I'M SHOWING YOU WHAT MY DESIGN IS.

I'M SHOWING YOU EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD ON THAT AT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THE NEXT STEP AFTER IF, IF THAT IS APPROVED, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TAKING THAT BACK TO THE DESIGN REVIEW AND SHOWING THEM ALL THE DETAILS. WHAT'S THE MATERIALS AND ALL THAT? AND THEY WILL JUDGE THAT AGAINST THE CODE AND THE TEXT THAT IS THERE AND THEN WE GO THROUGH THE ENGINEERING PROCESS. YES WITH THE CITY AND THEN WE GO THROUGH THE BUILDING INSPECTION. UM SUB AREA B IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DEFINED THE USES. IN AND IF SPECIFIC PARCEL HOW BIG IS THAT PARCEL? WHAT'S THE BUILDING LOOK LIKE, SO THAT PROCESS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. BUT IT ISN'T ANY DIFFERENT THAN THE INNOVATION PARK THAT YOU HAVE NOW, SO ALL OF MARY'S VILLAS PROCESSES ARE STILL INTACT THROUGH THIS PROCESS AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IT'S JUST LIKE I SAID, I WOULD BE BRINGING FIVE INDIVIDUALS OWNING IS IN FRONT OF YOU TO DO THIS MIXED USE.

THROUGH YOUR STANDARD ZONING. INVESTMENT LIST, CHAD. THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHO IS THE CONSULTANT IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES. I CAN GET YOU THAT IT'S WE WERE WORKING OUR ENGINEERS KIMBERLY HORN, UM AND THEY OUTSOURCED THE CONSULTING WORK AND THEN BRING IT BACK THROUGH US. SO OUR OUR ENGINEER COMPANY THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH RIGHT NOW ARE KIM IS KIMBERLY HORN, WHICH WHICH DOESN'T BOTH THE CIVIL. THEY ALSO DO THE WETLANDS ASSESSMENT AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION AND THIS WOULD BE MORE FOR ADMINISTRATION. IT'S WITH RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE P U. D COULD THEY. WHEN THEY NX ADDITIONAL LAND. COULD THEY

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FOR RESIDENTIAL AND THEN WHEN THEY COME BACK WITH THE MASTER PLAN, THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT ADJUSTING BACK TO PLANNING COMMITTEE. THEY WILL ONLY BE TO DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. AND THERE'S DEVELOPMENT TEXT, I THINK, WHAT WOULD CHAN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CERTAIN THAT THIRD ANNEXATION APART MENTIONED THAT THE NEXT ANNEXATION BUT WHEN THEY'RE ANNEXING ADDITIONAL LAND FOR THE RESIDENTIAL. THAT THAT THAT NEXT ANNEXATION IS NOT CONTIGUOUS TO THIS, SO ANNEXATION THREE THAT WOULD BE MORE RESIDENTIAL IS NOT CONTIGUOUS TO THIS AND THE OTHER PIECES WHEN YOU ANNEX PROPERTY INTO THE CITY, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO PUT IT IN THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION. UM SO THIS IS THIS IS THE PIECE UP HERE. I'LL MAKE THAT BECAUSE I HEARD THAT THAT WAS TOO CONCERNS HERE THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN REPEATED, UM, FINE, MAKING THE ADJUSTMENT BECAUSE AGAIN, IT WAS JUST SETTING A PARAMETER. WE CAN GO TO THE 7.5 FT SIDE. SETBACKS I HEARD IT A COUPLE OF TIMES. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO FALL ON THEIR SWORD. AND I'LL STILL BE ABLE TO SAY THAT CENTRAL OHIO IS THE CIGAR CAPITAL OF THE WORLD. UM BUT FOR THAT PIECE, WE CAN MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE TAX THAT WE WILL ABIDE BY THE 7.5 FT. WHICH IS THE CODE THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO IN THERE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THAT, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE YOU THE 20% COMMON AREA OR THE FRONT SETBACK AS WELL? JUST SIDE YARD SETBACK. WHAT I WAS HOPING IS THAT THIS COULD ALL BE ADDRESSING WHEN YOU MASTER PLAN IN THE PLANNING THAT PORTION OF LAND AS OPPOSED TO TODAY WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT ANNEXATION IS GOING TO BE AND HOW HE'S PROPOSING. I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF I GUESS THIS THIS IS THE MASTER PLAN FOR THIS AREA . YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE ACTUAL SITE. YEAH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE SITE DESIGN. JUST THE RESIDENTIAL. YEAH P U D IS GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO PROCESS THAT WITH RESIDENTIAL. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THEM. YOU'RE GONNA MASTER PLAN IT? NO NO, NO, THIS THIS P U D S P U D IN THIS MASTER PLAN IS DONE AT THE POINT IN TIME, IF WE GET CONTROL OF THE GROUND FURTHER TO THE RIGHT THEN WE WOULD COME BACK WITH WHATEVER THE MASTER PLAN FOR THAT AREA WOULD BE, WHICH IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE VERY SIMILAR TO SUB AREA C AT LEAST FOR A PORTION OF IT, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE THE GROUND TO THE TO THE RIGHT OF THAT IS CLOSE TO 300 ACRES, SO IT WOULD BE A MUCH MORE DIVERSE PLAN, BUT THAT GROUND CANNOT BE ANNEXED AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

UM SO THE NEXT MASTER PLAN THAT WE HAVE THAT HAS A RESIDENTIAL DOES IS NOT CONTINUOUS TO THIS AREA. OKAY SO THIS THIS IS THE CODE THAT WE WOULD COME BACK THROUGH. ONCE WE DECIDE WHAT THAT IS, AND AGAIN, THAT'S PROBABLY 3 TO 4 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD BASED ON UTILITY PLANS, SO THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE WOODSIDE P U D WHEN THAT CAME THROUGH, SO IT'S KIND OF MORE OF A BUBBLE PLAN OUTLINING THE LARGER DEVELOPMENT AREAS, AND THEN THEY COME BACK TO DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WITH THE DETAILED SITE PLANS AT THAT TIME, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN BART'S READY TO COME THROUGH WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED WITH THEIR OVERALL SITE PLAN THAT WOULD JUST COME STRAIGHT TO DESIRE REVIEW BOARD AND WE COULD HASH OUT TO SAY YEAH, WE'RE NOT THAT COMFORTABLE WITH THE 5 FT.

LET'S GO TO SIX OR EIGHT OR 10. WHATEVER THAT SIDE YARD IS, OR LET'S PULL THOSE CLOSER TO THE STREET. UM MAYBE BACK A LITTLE BIT. YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THAT DISCUSSION IS, BUT AT THE TIME OF DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IS WHEN WE COULD GET INTO THOSE DETAILS. RIGHT NOW. WE'RE JUST SETTING STANDARDS STANDARDS FOR ZONING CODE TEXT. THAT WE CAN USE AS A BASIS FOR THE DESIGN MOVING FORWARD FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENT. YEAH, I WAS JUST TRYING TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. RESIDENTIAL I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF HEARTACHE RIGHT NOW. WELL I'M STILL COMMITTED TO GOING TO THE 7.5 WHICH IS IN YOUR CODE. SO YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT WITH THAT CONDITIONAL USE THAN THEN THAT'S FINE. THE BOARD SOUGHT ON THAT.

SPECIFICALLY I WOULD AGREE. I THINK IT'S A COMPLIMENT. WHEN I GO. IT'S 2.5 FT LIKE THIS. IT'S 2.5 FT. SHORTER AND IT'S 2.5 FT. LONGER, TOO. SO I MEAN THERE IS A COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT, BUT IT DOESN'T. IT DOESN'T MOVE THE NEEDLE MASSIVELY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT GETS DEVELOPED OR

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COMMENTS ARE CLOSED, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY WRAPPING UP SOON IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO HIM. CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE STILL CLOSED. SORRY. I GOTTA FOLLOW UP. I HAVEN'T DONE ANY BEST HAVE TO BE BETTER ABOUT TO FOLLOWING THE RULES, SO ALRIGHT. YES SIR. OKAY SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? SEEN. NONE HAVE EMOTION. UH, MOTION WITH. UM THERE WAS SOMETHING WITH THE TREES REMOVED FROM THE AREA THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PRESERVED, AND THEY WILL FOLLOW THE STANDARD ZONING CODE. OTHERWISE THEY FOLLOW. WITH THE EXCEPTION, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE AREAS THAT'S BEEN NOTED IN OUR TEXT, AND THE CHANGE TO THE SIDE SETBACKS TO US IN AREA RIGHT? A C. THERE'S ONLY ONE THAT HAS THAT. YES IT'S AREA C WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS FINAL.

WITH THE STIPULATIONS THAT WE ADDRESS THE TREES AND BESIDE YARDS SECOND, PLEASE. ALRIGHT.

ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MR INGLE? YES. MR FISHER? YES. MR STILYAN. MR NICHOLSON. YES YES. BERBICE? YES. MR WOLOWITZ? YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. ALRIGHT THAT TAKES US TO COMMENTS OF

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