Nov 27, 2023 City Council

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AND WELCOME TO TONIGHT'S, UM, COUNCIL MEETING. WE HAD A WONDERFUL START AT SIX O'CLOCK TONIGHT WITH THE P LIGHTING AND JUST TO SEE THE ENTHUSIASM OF SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE. IF THERE'S REALLY EVEN THOUGH TEMPERATURE WAS COLD, IT WAS VERY HARD FOR ME. SO IT REALLY HAS A LOT OF GOOD. SO ANYWAY, WE START TONIGHT WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. AND THEN I DO NEED TO ASK YOU TO REMAIN STANDING FOR A LITTLE BIT AFTER THAT SONG. 25 OF THE UNITED STATES, AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOCUSES SENTENCE NATION INTERVIEWS, SMALLER LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND THE REASON THAT THEY ASK YOU TO REMAIN STANDING IS THAT WE DID HEAR THE UNFORTUNATE NEWS ABOUT A GOOD FRIEND OF OUR CITY BY THE NAME OF GARY LEE GAY WAS FOUND DECEASED OVER THE WEEKEND, AND HE HAS BEEN SUCH A, UM, FORCE. NOT ONLY FOR THE CITY OF MAYSVILLE, OF COURSE FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL, AND, UM, WE I ASKED YOU TO KEEP HIS FAMILY IN PRAYER AS THEY GO THROUGH THIS DIFFICULT TIME WITH GAYS PASSING AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE, PLEASE.

ALMIGHTY GOD, WE ASK YOU THAT YOU GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND HIS CITIZENS. AMEN THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. LOCAL PLEASE. SEYMOUR PRESIDENT, DEBORAH GROWTH PRESIDENT DONALD BURGER HERE. HE HASN'T CREAMS AND AARON CARPENTER IS EXCUSED. OKAY, WONDERFUL. UM WE HAVE A

[APPOINTMENT]

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]

AND THEN CONTINUING ON WITH SANTA. HE WILL BE A PARTNER'S PARK ON THURSDAYS AND SATURDAYS.

TIMES MAY VARY. THEY WILL BE POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AND WE'LL TRY TO MAKE SURE THOSE TIMES ARE OUT IN THE PUBLIC, BUT THOSE THURSDAYS AND SATURDAYS IN DECEMBER AT PARTNERS PARKING COUNT ON SANTA SPENDING SOME TIME THERE. THAT TO MEET WITH SOME OF THE CHILDREN, UM, THE CHRISTMAS PARADE, THE ANNUAL MARYSVILLE ELKS CHRISTMAS PARADE IS SUNDAY, DECEMBER 3RD AND AT TWO PM IN UPTOWN, MARYSVILLE, AND SO, UH, HAVE PEOPLE COUNT ON ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY FOR THE CHRISTMAS PARADE. SUNDAY DECEMBER 3RD AT 2 P.M. AND THEN AGAIN, ONE OF OUR MORE POPULAR ACTIVITIES. IS THE MARY ON MAIN ICE SKATING THAT IS COMING UP ICE LESS ICE SKATING AT PARTNERS PARK FROM DECEMBER 9TH TWO JANUARY. 2ND SKATING IS FREE TO RESIDENTS AND VISITORS OF ALL AGES. SKATES ARE PROVIDED, AND THE HOURS ARE WEEKENDS. DECEMBER 9TH THROUGH DECEMBER, 31ST WOULD

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[PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT]

MOVING ON TO THE NEW BUSINESS. WE HAD FIVE FINAL PLAN APPLICATIONS. THE FIRST WAS TO HEAR AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAN FOR SKY BROOKS SECTION TWO PART ONE. THAT WAS APPROVED 6 TO 0. THE SECOND FINAL PLAN APPLICATION WAS SKY BROOKS SECTION TWO PART TWO THAT WAS APPROVED 6 TO 0. THE THIRD FINAL PLAY OUT WAS FOR DARBY RUN SECTION ONE THAT WAS APPROVED 6 TO 0. THE FOURTH FINAL PLAN WAS FOR DARBY RUN SECTION TWO THAT WAS APPROVED 6 TO 0 AND THE LAST APPLICATION FOR FINAL PLAN WAS THE OAKS FACED, TOO, AND THAT WAS APPROVED 6 TO 0. THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA WAS TO HEAR AN APPLICATION FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION FOR A DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS MARYSVILLE EAST SECTION ONE LOCATED ALONG WATKINS ROAD THAT WAS APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS SIX YEARS. ZERO NOW. THAT ARE THAT WAS ALL THE AGENDA ITEMS AT THE NOVEMBER PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR KALE? OKAY ALREADY HEARING NONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, KYLE. I APPRECIATE IT.

[DESIGN REVIEW BOARD REPORT]

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[HEARING OF CITIZENS]

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SO I THINK THAT THIS IS JUST NEEDS TO BE REITERATED AGAIN THAT THIS IS THE TIME FOR US TO REVAMP. OUR CURRENT PLANNING AND ZONING IN MARYSVILLE. THANK YOU ALL. OKAY? ALREADY THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND COMMENT. WHEN I GOT THAT PICTURE. IT WAS FORWARDED IT TO US. I DIDN'T HAVE AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT IT WAS ABOUT . I THOUGHT IT WAS ABOUT THE CAR PARKED ACROSS THE SIDEWALK VISITS BECAUSE THAT CAR IS NOW PARKED LEGALLY, UH, WHAT PART COULD BE REPORTED AND REMOVED FROM THAT LOCATION, SO IT'S NOT PARKED. LEGALLY. IT'S PARKED OVER THE SIDEWALK. HMM. THANK YOU. THAT WAS ADDRESSED. DID WE GET THAT REPORT, CHIEF OR DEGREE ? ANOTHER. INITIALLY, OKAY? SO IF WE GET IT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT APPEARS, AND WE DON'T CATCH UP RIGHT OFF HAND REPORTED, AND WE'LL SEND SOMEBODY OUT AND HAVEN'T MOVED. BECAUSE THAT'S NOT PARKED. APPROPRIATELY AS AS WOULD AS IT WOULD BE IN ANY SECTION OF MARYSVILLE. SO THAT ISN'T ZONING. THAT'S POLICE ENFORCEMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ZONING. UM I'VE SEEN IT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. TOLD HIM. HEY YOU NEED TO NOT BLOCK THE SIDEWALK. SO HAPPENS ALL OVER.

MAYBE PEOPLE FOLLOW THE RULES. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE IT. OKAY BUT THAT IS NEW. IN THAT AREA BECAUSE OF THE STREETS OPENED UP NOW, SO IT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT THAT NOT ONLY WE RECEIVE REPORTS WHEN IT HAPPENS, BUT WE'LL WATCH IT CLOSELY TO MAKE SURE THEY GET REMOVED AS SOON AS WE SEE IT. YEAH. HOWEVER IF PLANNING DIDN'T ALLOW THOSE HOUSES TO BE BUILT THAT WAY, THEN WE WOULDN'T BE IN THIS ISSUE. OKAY ALREADY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE THAT I'M SO SORRY. GO AHEAD. PUT IT OUT. THIS ISN'T THE WAY I DO WANT TO COME. AH, WESTBOUND ON.

PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY. I DID THE SAME THING. WITHOUT THE CAR ISSUE CAME TO THAT. THAT WOULD BE A BUSY LOCATION. I AGREE ABOUT TIMING, PROBABLY NECESSARY. NO HIGHER SPEED TRAFFIC. THE ROAD. YEAH, THAT'S HAPPENED, ADDRESSED ALSO. WITH SOME WARNING. YES I KNOW OUR ENGINEERING. YES COUNCILMAN SEYMOUR. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PDS. WE DID AT SPEED TEST. THERE ARE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, AND WE WE'VE GOT TRAILERS ALREADY SCHEDULED TO GO OUT THERE. I BELIEVE IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO WE WERE WORKING ON GETTING IT FIXED, SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SEE HOW AFFECTED THE SPEED TRAILERS ARE SO WE DID IT WHEN NOBODY KNEW WE WERE DOING IT.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT WITH THE TRAILERS TO SEE HOW THAT CURTAILS SPEED. JUST LET ADDED ENGINEERING BUSINESS. ALWAYS CATCH YOUR DETAIL PAGE. SO SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW IT'S JUST OPEN. AND FIRST OFF INNOVATION. SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T SEE THEM. OH ENGINEERING. IT WAS HAPPENING. AT LEAST SERIOUSLY. OKAY ALREADY. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO, UM, COMING TONIGHT? MY NAME IS BOB HAMMOND. AND I LIVED THERE 21785 BOARD ROAD. OUTSIDE

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THE CITIZENS OF MARYSVILLE SPOKEN LOUD AND CLEAR ON THESE ISSUES, AND IT WOULD BE AN AFFRONT TO THE OVER 5000 CITIZENS THAT VOTED AGAINST THE ANNEXATION AND TO THE THOUSANDS OF CITIZENS WHO VOTED TO REMOVE EVERY INCUMBENT MEMBER THAT WAS UP FOR REELECTION ON COUNCIL THAT HAD VOTED FOR THE ANNEXATION. THE CITIZENS OF MARYSVILLE ARE DEMANDING THAT THE CITY ADMINISTRATORS CHANGE COURSE ON THE ISSUE OF GROWTH. IT WOULD BE INDECENT AND UNETHICAL FOR THE CURRENT CITY COUNCIL TO VIOLATE THE WILL OF THE VOTERS IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS OF THEIR REIGN WITH ANY ANNEXATIONS OR ZONING CHANGES THAT WILL AFFECT MARYSVILLE IN PERPETUITY. THE MARYSVILLE JOURNAL TRIBUNE USED THE WORD PURGED TO DESCRIBE THE MOST RECENT ELECTION RESULTS IF ANY OF THESE ISSUES ARE PASSED IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS BEFORE THE NEW CITY COUNCIL IS SWORN IN. THE PURGE THAT HAPPENED. IN THIS ELECTION CYCLE WILL PALE IN COMPARISON TO THE PURGE OF THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE. ANY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT SUPPORTS ANY ANNEXATION OR REZONING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, ISSUING AN ABSOLUTE CONTEMPT FOR THE CITIZENS OF MARRIOTTSVILLE. THANK YOU. OKAY THANK YOU, FOR YOUR COMMENTS APPRECIATED ANYBODY ELSE? GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RANDY LIONS AND 14 TO 20 HINTON MILL ROAD, BUXTON MEADOWS. THAT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF MARYSVILLE. END UP THERE WITH ME. IT'S MY FIRST TIME ADDRESSING THE BOARD AND ALSO IT'S A LITTLE, UH INTIMIDATING FOR ME. I'M HERE TO GO AND TALK ABOUT THE END OF THE INNOVATION PARK ANNEXATION OF MURRYSVILLE EAST. IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING, AND, UM READING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S MEANT AS A GUIDE FOR FUTURE LAND USE, UM, BASED ON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED WITHIN THAT PLAN. WE SEE THAT CITY IS ACTUALLY SHORT RESIDENTIAL HOUSING BY 2400 UNITS. THAT WAS AT THE TIME OF THE, UH THE PLAN.

NOW THE PLAN ALSO CLEARLY OLD STRAIGHT SO THAT THE MURRYSVILLE EAST AREA WHICH I RESIDE JUST TO BE RESIDENTIAL AFTER ANNEXATION, WITH ONLY A SMALL PART OF THAT TO BE LOCATED BETWEEN TWO B INDUSTRIAL, AND THAT'S LOCATED BETWEEN ROUTE 33 IN THE FUTURE, PLANNED ACCESS FOR PARALLEL ACCESS RED. WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY HAS BEEN REVIEWED RD , WHICH IS ROCKFORD DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENTS, I BELIEVE IS THE FULL NAME. THEIR PLANS THEY MET WITH US FOR THE 800 PLUS ACRE INNOVATION PARK AND THAT THE DEVELOPER SHOWS NOT ONLY DEVIATED SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, HE ALMOST WENT TO 480 DEGREES, IN OUR OPINION, AND THAT HE'S SHOWN INSTEAD OF RESIDENTIAL ALMOST ALL INDUSTRIAL. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A FEW HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT. RIGHT NEXT TO THE CURRENT APARTMENTS ARE WATKINS GLEN. THEY'RE LOOKING AT A FEW MORE CONDOS AND WALK UP APARTMENTS. THEY ALSO LOOKING AT A FEW MORE, UM, HOMES OUT ON 36.

BUT ACROSS FROM 36 ON THE WHAT HAVE YOU THE NORTHWEST SIDE? THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT A VERY, VERY LARGE DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE WITH THAT BEING SAID. BASED ON THE 2023 THOROUGHFARE PLAN. STUDIES INDICATE THAT AROUND 36 AND THE SCOTS LAN ROAD AREAS OR VERY HEAVILY CONGESTED ALREADY THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT. AND THIS IS ONLY GOING TO IMPROVE WITH THE ADDITION OF NEWER DEVELOPMENTS. FURTHER. THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE NEED ANOTHER ANOTHER INDUSTRIAL PARK IN OUR BACKYARD. WE ALREADY HAVE SEVERAL 100 ACRES THAT ARE STILL OPEN. IN A PROPERLY ZONED AREA ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF 33, CURRENTLY BEING UNUSED. SO WHY ARE WE DEVELOPING MORE? IF WE CAN'T FEEL WHAT WE HAVE? WHOLE NEW RESPECT. THE LANDOWNER. UM. THE PROPERTY AND ALREADY I REQUESTING ANNEXATION BEFORE ANY

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WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COVERING. OR THE STATES THAT THEIR PLAN IS TOO GOOD BUT HIGH TECH HIGH SALARY JOBS AND COMPANIES IN THAT AREA. ALTHOUGH IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR PLAN IT DOESN'T SHOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIGH TECH. YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT. IT'S JUST A LOT OF MIXED JUICE BUSINESSES. REVIEW OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO DOES NOT MENTION ANY USE OF P. U. D S BEEN SEVERAL PLANNING MEETINGS RECENTLY. IN MANY OF OFFICIALS STATED THAT THEY PLAYED EVEN UTILIZE PEWDIEPIE EVEN MORE INTO THE FUTURE. IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT THIS, UM INNOVATION PART THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY TALKING ABOUT WAS INITIATED BY THE CITY BUT RATHER BY R D. I AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS. 800 ACRE DEVELOPMENT WAS BROKEN UP INTO THREE INDIVIDUAL PIECES. IT WAS TOLD TO US DIRECTLY BY THE DEVELOPER AND MENTIONED WITHIN THE PLANNING COMMITTEE THAT WAS BROKEN UP LIKE THAT, BECAUSE ANYTHING OVER 500 ACRES WE NEED SOME TYPE OF CITIZEN APPROVAL.

KEEPING IT UNDER 500 ACRES. IT GIVES THE PLANNING COMMITTEE OR COMMISSION THE ABILITY AND BELIEVE THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THAT WITHOUT PUBLIC INPUT. B B A. WE HAVE ONE MORE MINUTE LEFT, CAN YOU? YES, THAT IN ONE MINUTE THANK YOU. BUT USING THE SMALLER ANNEXATIONS CITY AND R D I CAN BYPASS ANY PUBLIC REVIEW. THIS TYPE OF BEHIND THE SCENE ACTIVITY MAY BE LEGAL. THAT CERTAINLY DOESN'T PASS THE SMELL TEST WITH THE CITIZENS EMERGES HILL. THE PERCEPTION OF THE COMMUNITY. IS THAT THE CITY IS LETTING THE DEVELOPER CONTROL HELP. MARRIAGE BILL WILL LOOK IN THE FUTURE. REMEMBER PERCEPTION IS REALITY. AND IT APPEARS RIGHT NOW THAT THE TAIL IS WAGGING THE DOG. WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND THE COUNCIL. THE TABLE THESE ANNEXATIONS UNTIL THE NEWLY ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE SEATED. AND WE CAN ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURES BEFORE ADDING MORE DEVELOPMENT. OKAY WELL, I HAVE ALREADY. THANK YOU SO MUCH PEOPLE. SHE ATE IT. OKAY? AROUND AND THERE YOU SEE SOME OF YOUR NEIGHBORS. THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD FEELING, ISN'T IT? OKAY WOULD WE BE ABLE TO LIMIT IT TO FIVE MINUTES? HE SAID. OH, MY GOSH.

YES OH, YEAH. OH, YEAH, WONDERFUL. ABSOLUTELY BUT I DO NEED TO GO ON RECORD BY SAYING I LOVE AROUND ABOUT I KNOW THAT YOU'VE HAD CAUGHT A LOT OF HACK FOR IT. BUT THERE'S NOT A ROUNDABOUT. I'VE MET THAT I HAVEN'T LIKED, SO IT'S JUST A GOOD WAY TO MOVE TRAFFIC SO ANYWAY ON THAT MY NAME IS GAIL JENKINS. I'VE LIVED IN BUXTON MEADOWS FOR 34 YEARS. UNLIKE SOME NEW RESIDENTS WHO MOVED HERE TO ESCAPE HILLIARD ORO BETS WE MOVED HERE TO BE CLOSER TO OUR JOBS. MY COWORKERS LOVED THE SCHOOL, SO WE STAYED AND RAISED OUR KIDS HERE, AND WE PLAN TO SPEND SOME OF OUR RETIREMENT HERE AT LEAST THE WARM MONTHS. THIS SEPTEMBER BROUGHT NOTIFICATION OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE FIELDS TO OUR SOUTH AND WEST NIGHT AFTER NIGHT , WE SPENT TIME LEARNING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ZONING CODES. ZONING DESIGNATION DISTRICTS PLANNING COMMISSION DESIGN REVIEW BOARD COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, STRATEGIC PLAN, P U D AND ANNEXATION. WHAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION DURING MY MUNICIPAL EDUCATION WAS THE 2018 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WHEN SPEAKING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WE HAVE. MOST OF US HAVE ATTENDED A COUPLE OF MEETINGS. WE WERE ADVISED THAT DOCUMENT WAS JUST A GUIDED, NOT ILLEGAL PIECE OF PAPER. THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH. HOWEVER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS BEEN USED , UH, HAS BEEN USED IN SOME DECISION MAKING MEETINGS, AND I BRING THIS ISSUE UP BECAUSE THE 2018 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOESN'T NATED MARYSVILLE EAST POST ANNEXATION AS RESIDENTIAL, NOT INDUSTRIAL, THE AUTHORS OF THE P U D SKETCH PLAN FOR MARYSVILLE EAST TO WHICH ABUTS US MAKES THEIR CASE FOR REZONING BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE SKETCH PLAN REFERENCES THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN MATTERS OF ADVANCED MANUFACTURING INFRASTRUCTURE. ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USES OFFICES, RESEARCH, RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AND POPULATION GROWTH AND PROJECTED GROWTH. IN 20 PLANNING COMMISSION AND OR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS BETWEEN

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SOMETIMES YOU USED TO DISCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT SOMETIMES TO RECOMMEND MOVE FORWARD IN THE DEVELOPMENT. IT FEELS LIKE A DOUBLE STANDARD, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD GOVERNMENT LOOK. THE CITY COMMISSIONS AND COUNCIL CAN USE THE DOCUMENT TO JUSTIFY OR DENY DEVELOPMENT. BUT FOR US, IT'S JUST A GUIDE. I DON'T THINK THE COUNCIL MEANT FOR THE PLAN TO CARRY SUCH WEIGHT. DEVELOPERS COMMISSIONS AND CITIZENS ARE LOOKING FOR A WAY TO EITHER MAXIMIZE OR MINIMIZE DEVELOPMENT. I'M DONE ANY QUESTIONS? NO GOOD. OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. MY NAME IS DAVE JENKINS. 14242 HAWKS WERE DRIVE ALSO BUCKS TO MEADOWS. I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SPEAK ABOUT THE MARYSVILLE EAST ANNEXATION. PROPOSAL ANNEXATION IN READING ALL THE MEDICINES 2020. IT IS CLEAR THAT THE 2018 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DRIVES THE DEVELOPMENT OF MARY SPELL AS IT IS FREQUENTLY REFERRED TO IT BOTH PLANNING AND COUNCIL MEETINGS, NUMEROUS TIMES OF SCALE STATED IT ALSO SHOWS THAT THE PROPOSED AREA MARYSVILLE EAST ALONG WALK INS, WAS PLANNED AS BEING AGRICULTURE AND SLASH RESIDENTIAL ALSO THE ROUTE 33 IN ELEVATION WAS SUPPOSED TO BE USED TO ENCOURAGE R AND D, AEROSPACE INTERNATIONAL AND VARIOUS OTHER TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES TO ESTABLISH A BUSINESSES AND THAT DESIGNATED AREA FROM THE VIEW OF THINGS. IT APPEARS THAT THE CITY IN MARYSVILLE, IT'S MOMENT HAS COME UP SHORT OF THAT OBJECTIVE. NOW WE WANT TO CALL THE OTHER SIDE OF ROUTE. 33 ALSO INNOVATION. BUT THE PROPOSED DIODES OWNING INCLUDES VARIOUS INDUSTRIES THAT DON'T FALL UNDER INNOVATION. WHICH LEADS ME TO BELIEVE IT IS JUST ANOTHER FANCY WORD FOR INDUSTRIAL PARK. WHICH HAS A NEGATIVE MEETING TO THOSE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE OR EVEN THE COMMUNITY. SO IF IT EXCUSE ME, SO IF THIS IS ANNEXED, EXCUSE ME IF THIS IS ANNEXATION IS PUSHED THROUGH WITH A REZONING AT LEAST CALLED THE P U. D TO BE MODIFIED TO ONLY INCLUDE THE INDUSTRIES THAT TOTALLY BRING INNOVATION. OR GET RID OF THE NAME. UPON READING THE MINUTES FROM THE PAST YEAR. REAL ESTATE AGENTS HAVE APPEARED NUMEROUS TIMES AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS INDICATED MARRIES FELONIES MORE HOUSING. THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY COMMENTS ABOUT MORE INDUSTRY OUTSIDE THE INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY. WHY TAKE CARE OF AGRICULTURE, RESIDENTIAL LANDS, ZONED LAND AND REZONE IT WHEN REAL ESTATE AGENTS ARE EXPRESSING A DIFFERENT NEED. LASTLY I READ EXTENSIVELY REGARDING THE STRATEGIC PLAN VERSUS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. HERE IS WHAT? EXCUSE ME BACK ON JUNE 6TH 2020 2022 MINUTES. THE STRATEGIC PLAN, AND THIS IS EMBOLDENED, UTILIZES THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT TAYLOR'S TO PACIFIC NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AT A GIVEN TIME. WHAT WAS INTERESTING DIRECTLY UNDER THAT QUOTATION OR UNDER THAT BULLET POINT WAS ANOTHER ONE SAYS, THINK, SHORT TERM. CHANGING THE ZONING FROM RESIDENTIAL TO LIGHT MANUFACTURING AND OVER 500 ACRES IS NOT SHORT TERM. THIS WILL RESHAPE MARYSVILLE AS WE KNOW IT, MAKING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND EFFECTIVE AS IT WAS DEVELOPED TO GIVE DIRECTION AND WHERE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WAS TO TAKE PLACE AS ROUTE 33 INNOVATION WAS ADDRESSING THE BUSINESS ASPECTS. SO IT WAS STATED SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE PAST YEAR THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DEVELOPED , AND I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

YOU ALSO RECOGNIZED THE NEED TO UPDATE THE STATED PLAN BACK IN 2020 FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT, SINCE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DRIVES, DEVELOPMENT AND CHANGING ZONING OUTSIDE OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDATION, BASED ON WHAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD LIKE TO SEE. WELL GREATLY IMPACT ON HOW THE NEXT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS DRAWN UP. I COMMEND CITY COUNCIL AND RECOGNIZE HIM BACK IN 2020 THAT YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN WAS OUTDATED. AND THROUGH NUMEROUS MEETINGS STAYED TWO STARTED TO UPDATE IT. AND NOW YOU HAVE A ROLLING FOUR YEAR PLAN AND MEASURING YOURSELF AGAINST IT.

SO LET'S PUMP THE BRAKES PAY TO GET AN UPDATED COMPREHENSIVE PLANTS AS FIVE YEARS IS A LONG TIME, WITH ALL THE CHANGES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN MARY SPILL IN THE ECONOMY AND THEN SEE WHERE IT LEADS THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. IF THE MARRIAGE FELLOW AREA IS TRULY ONE OF THE GRASSES OF FASTEST GROWING AREAS IN OHIO SHOULDN'T WE GET IT RIGHT? THE 2040 THOROUGHFARE

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THANK YOU. HMM. I WANT TO COMMENT ON BUT WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET. WE DID ADD, UH, $100,000 TO THE BUDGET FOR 2024 TO DO AN UPDATE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS AMENDED, AND WE SHOULD NOT VOTED ON THE BUDGET YET, BUT THAT WAS AN AMENDMENT THAT I PUT IN AT THE LAST MEETING. YES SIR.

RIGHT THIS WILL BE SHORT AND SWEET. MY NAME IS GREGORY EDWARDS. I LIVE AT 14 TO 8 TO OXFORD DRIVE IN BUCKS THE MEADOWS. WE HAVE LIVED THERE 26 YEARS AND IT'S A VERY NICE, QUIET, PEACEFUL PLACE. OKAY. THE ONLY THING WE HEAR IS THE SCOTS LONG CEO FLYOVER AT 715 IN THE MORNING OUTSIDE OF 515. I'M SORRY OUTSIDE OF THAT. YOU HEAR NOTHING. PEOPLE WALK. WE HAVE A GOOD TIME. IT'S FREE OF CRIME, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN HERE WOULD WANT SOMETHING BUILT THAT IS BEING PROPOSED RIGHT NOW AND THEIR BACKYARD TO CHANGE ALL OF THAT, SO I DO RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU TABLE THIS UNTIL THE NEW MEMBERS GET SEATED. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. ANYBODY ELSE FOR TONIGHT? HMM. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DAVID YODER. I LIVE AT 14053 OXFORD DRIVE, ALSO IN BUXTON MEADOWS. THERE ARE A LOT OF US HERE TONIGHT. YOU SEE ALL THE RED UM, YOU CAN SEE THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ITEM FOR ALL OF US. UM I'VE ONLY LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT FIVE YEARS. BUT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING FOR THIS FOR OUR FIRST HOUSE, MY WIFE AND I CHOSE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION BECAUSE OF THE PEACE AND THE QUIET AND FRANKLY, SOME OF THE AMAZING PEOPLE WE MET THE FIRST TIME WE WERE THERE. UM THIS IS A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT UM, MANY PEOPLE HAVE LIVED HERE 30 PLUS YEARS AS YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND I KNOW THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T MAKE IT TONIGHT WHETHER IT'S DUE TO HAVING SMALL CHILDREN OR OTHER WORK COMMITMENTS ARE THE THINGS THERE WERE A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO BE HERE, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT AS WELL. BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU PLEASE TABLE THIS FOR THE TIME BEING. IF MARYSVILLE AND INDEED, NORTHWEST COLUMBUS IS ONE OF THE MOST DESIRABLE LOCATIONS IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE THE LUXURY, BUT MARYSVILLE HAS THE LUXURY TO HOLD ON TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THIS LAND. NOT JUST FOR TODAY OR TOMORROW. BUT FOR THE NEXT, HOWEVER LONG IT'S GOING TO BE THERE DECADES. AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ABSOLUTELY GET IT RIGHT AND THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING THE DEVELOPER OR SOMEONE ELSE MAKE THE PLAN FOR US, BUT THAT MARY'S OR THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHOEVER IS ACTUALLY DOING THE BEST JOB AND THE RESEARCH TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS THE BEST PLAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MOVING FORWARD. AND. AS AS I CLOSE. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT UM. THIS IS A WONDERFUL DEVELOPMENT. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER VERY STRONGLY.

THIS COULD GO A COUPLE OF WAYS, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING TO BE YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS IF THIS ANNEXATION GOES THROUGH, AND IF THAT'S TRUE, WHAT RESPONSIBILITIES DOES MARYSVILLE HAVE? TO TAKE CARE OF ITS NEIGHBORS. WHAT RESPONSIBILITY DO YOU HAVE TO ME SO THAT AFTER THIS PROCESS IS FINISHED, WHATEVER THE OUTCOME. THAT I COULD SAY IF DOWN THE ROAD.

THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO BECOME AN EXTEND MY PROPERTY ALSO TO MARYSVILLE THAT I WOULD SAY YES. I HAD A SEAT AT THE TABLE. I WAS HEARD. AND WE GOT SOMETHING THAT WAS THE BEST FOR BOTH US AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MARYSVILLE AND WHOEVER ELSE IS INVOLVED. RATHER THAN NO. THIS WAS SHOVED DOWN OUR THROAT AND NO, I WOULD NEVER WANT TO JOIN THE COMMUNITY TO THAT. DOES THAT SO I WOULD IMPLORE YOU THAT WE TABLE THIS FOR NOW. AND THAT HOPEFULLY IN 20 YEARS WHEN MY SON WHO TURNED 15 MONTHS TODAY IS THAT ONE OF THESE MEETINGS HE CAN SAY I'M SO GLAD THAT I'M A PART OF THE COMMUNITY IN MARYSVILLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. MHM. HMM.

ANYBODY ELSE? HI I'M MICHELLE NICODEMUS. I LIVE AT 14183 OXFORD DRIVE IN BUXTON MEADOWS.

I'M SORRY I CAME UP WITH THIS TWO MINUTES AGO. SO BEAR WITH ME. I'M LOOKING AT SOME OF THE

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UH AND THEN THIS, AND THEN IT WILL COME UP FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON THE DECEMBER 18TH AGENDA, THEN IT WILL BE UP FOR THIRD READING VOTES. IN IN THE FIRST MEETING OF JANUARY, WHICH I BELIEVE IS JANUARY 11TH AND MY CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WHATEVER THE SECOND MONDAY IS UM, 8 JANUARY EIGHTH. THE SECOND PETITION WILL COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR FIRST READING. UH ON THAT DAY, JANUARY 8TH SO THAT'S THAT'S WITHOUT ANY AND THEN TWO MEETINGS, THEN YOU KNOW, THEN THE NEXT MEETING OF JANUARY WILL BE SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING THAN THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY, WOULD BE FOR THIRD READING AND VOTE NOW THINGS YOU KNOW THAT IT COUNSEL MIGHT WANT TO RUN THEM RUN THE TWO ANNEXATIONS CONCURRENTLY, SO THEY'RE BOTH BEING REVIEWED THE SAME TIME BY COUNSEL. BUT AGAIN THAT WOULD THAT WOULD INVOLVE HAVING THE FIRST ONE TABLED AND THERE ARE TIME LIMITATIONS WITH RESPECT TO WIN COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION ON AN ANNEXATION BEFORE IT SO THAT THAT'S SORT OF WHAT HOW IT'S GOING TO COME FORWARD AGAIN.

COUNCIL IF COUNSEL WANTS TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE THEN THEY CAN DO THAT WHEN IT'S BEFORE COUNCIL. THEY CAN'T DO THAT TONIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S NOT BEFORE COUNCIL AND IT HAS TO COME UP FOR FIRST READ. THE FIRST PETITION FOR ANNEXATION HAS TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR FIRST READING ON DECEMBER 4TH. OKAY AND THEN IF YOU DON'T MIND THE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS BROUGHT FORTH TONIGHT WAS THAT IT, UM. SHOULD ALMOST BE A DECISION BY NEWLY ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBERS AND PROMOTE YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT EITHER WAY THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE? THAT'S RIGHT. THEY'RE SCARED. THEY'RE SCHEDULE YET BOTH PETITIONS FOR ANNEXATION OR SCHEDULED TO BE VOTED ON BY COUNCIL AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. OKAY YEAH. SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, AND GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT DO WE EXPECT IN THE NEXT, UM, WEEKS AND MONTHS TO COME BECAUSE OUT HERE, ANNEXATION IS ONE DECISION THAT WE MAKE. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE TYPE OF BUILDINGS AND MANY COMES TO, UM, THE WHOLE PLANNING AND WHATNOT. THAT'S WHERE THE PLANNING ITS OWN INCOMES IN SO YOU'LL YOU'LL BE YOU'LL BE WORKING WITH NOT JUST ONLY COUNCIL, BUT I CAN ASSUME IF IT HAPPENS TO MOVE FORWARD THAT AND ALSO, UM, UM UH, PLANNING AND ZONING WILL TAKE A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE IN THIS IN THIS WHOLE SCENARIO FORTHCOMING. AND I WILL MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT . THREE NEWLY ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE HERE AND WITNESSING THE CONVERSATIONS SO. OKAY IT'S NOT JUST FALLING ON OUR EARS.

YEAH. YEP. OKAY? OKAY ALREADY. OKAY SO HOPEFULLY THAT PUTS YOUR MIND A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THESE FOR TONIGHT. SO AGAIN, I ASSUME THAT THIS WAS THE LAST CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE ON HEARING OF CITIZENS WE HAVE ABOUT 10 OR 12 ORDINANCE TO GO THROUGH. WE HAVE NO RESOLUTIONS

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I WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU SOME INFORMATION ON OUR TAX INSTEAD OF REVIEW REVIEW COUNCIL THAT MEETS ANNUALLY TO REVIEW TAX ABATEMENTS FROM ENTERPRISE ZONE PERSPECTIVE AND THEN ALSO PROVIDE ONE OF ITS RECOMMENDATIONS THIS EVENING. FIRST MAYBE, UM, A LITTLE. UM YOU KNOW, BACKGROUND INFORMATION FROM THE TURK. NOT A VERY GOOD ACTOR NAME. WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WE HEAR THIS EVERY YEAR, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY COMPRISED OF CITY COUNTY TOWNSHIP IN SCHOOL REPRESENTATIVES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THAT EACH YEAR OVERSEES THE IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR TAX ABATEMENT POLICIES RELATED TO THE ENTERPRISE ZONE. THE END REVIEW EVERY TAX ABATEMENT FOR COMPLIANCE. AND ALSO ALL THE TIFF AGREEMENTS THAT WE'VE DONE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AS WELL.

UM, RECOMMENDS MODIFICATIONS DETERMINATIONS AND THEN ALSO RECOMMENDS CONTINUOUS AGREEMENTS THAT DOES NOT NEED OR THEY DO NOT NEED A LEGISLATIVE BODY APPROVALS THAT CHANGES ACTUALLY MADE RECENTLY. WE USED TO DO CONTINUATIONS OF TAX PAYMENTS. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT ANYMORE ONLY CHANGES THAT ARE RECOMMENDED BY THE TURK. COME TO THE LEGISLATIVE BODY. SO UM, THE TURK RECOMMENDATIONS FOR 2023. WE HAD TWO MEETINGS AND BY THE WAY JR SERVES ON THAT AS WELL AS TERRY AS WELL AS BRAD MYSELF. WE SERVE ON THAT AS WELL. SO WE MET TWICE THIS YEAR TO REVIEW TAX INCENTIVES OR THE TAX ABATEMENT AGREEMENTS WE REVIEWED IN TOTAL NINE DIFFERENT ENTERPRISE ZONE AGREEMENTS. THREE IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, SUMITOMO HERITAGE IN SCOTT SOMEWHERE WROTE. IT WAS JUST DONE FOR THEIR NEW DISTRIBUTION FACILITY. WE REVIEWED FIVE AND JEROME TOWNSHIP ON ONE IN RICHWOOD TURK ACTIONS INCLUDED THE FOLLOWING APPROVED THE CONTINUANCE OF SIX EASY AGREEMENTS, INCLUDING SUMITOMO AND SCOTTS. MIRACLE GRO . THEY DO NOT NEED TO COME TO CITY COUNCIL RECOMMENDED ASSIGNMENT OF ONE OF THE ENTERPRISE ZONE AGREEMENTS WITH INTERIM TOWNSHIP FOR TWO K TH PARTS TO A NEW USER. RECOMMENDED THE MODIFICATION OF ONE EASY AGREEMENT IN JEROME TOWNSHIP AUTO TOOL AND THEN ALSO RECOMMENDED DETERMINATION OF ONE EASY AGREEMENT IN MARYSVILLE, WHICH IS THE HERITAGE COOPERATIVE. SO GETTING IN SOME OF THE DETAILS. HERITAGE RECEIVED A 1010 YEARS 75 TAX ABATEMENT THAT EXPIRES ON

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THEY'VE ACTUALLY INVESTED 2 MILLION MORE MAJOR INVESTMENT. I THINK WE ALL SAW THE VIDEO TRACK OF WHEN THEY WERE PUTTING ASIDE THOSE UP AND HOW QUICK THOSE SILOS WENT UP. IT WAS PRETTY PRETTY AMAZING, SO THEY'VE INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY IN THE CITY. THEY DID PLEDGE 35 JOBS.

THEY ACTUALLY HAVE ONLY PROVIDED 17 BUT UP TO 25 DURING PEAK SEASON AS WE KNOW IT'S A GRAIN TERMINAL. A LOT OF AGONY JUST DEPENDENT, SO THE HIGH SEASON IS IN THE SEPTEMBER OCTOBER TIME FRAME IS WHEN YOU SEE IT, SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE 25 PEAK. THEY PLEDGED PAYROLL ABOUT $1.1 MILLION. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE ONLY PROVIDED ABOUT 688,000. IT GOES UP TO 803 DURING PEAK SEASON AND THEN THE REAL PROPERTY TAXES PAID A LITTLE BIT ALMOST $85,000 LAST YEAR, EVEN WITH THE TAX INCENTIVE, THEY ALSO PAID INCOME TAX TO THE CITY. HOWEVER IT'S CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION WE CANNOT SHARE WITH YOU, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THEY'VE PAID BASED UPON THE PAYROLL THAT WAS SHOWN UP THERE AS WELL. SO IF TERMINATED, THE HERITAGE AGREEMENT WOULD BE DETERMINATE, EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST OF NEXT YEAR, MEANING THAT THEY WOULD LOSE THE LAST YEAR OF THEIR TAX ABATEMENTS, TAX AND SAFE. SO A LITTLE BIT OF ABOUT HERITAGE HERITAGE, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY IS A CREATION OF THE MERGER OF CHAMPAGNE LANDMARK AND FARMERS COMMISSION, BOTH OHIO BASED COMPANIES THAT MERGED IN 2009 THE UPTOWN GREEN INTERNAL, THANKS TO JEREMY AND THE EPA PHASE ONE WE'VE JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED ACTUALLY WAS BUILT IN 1955. I DIDN'T WE DIDN'T I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. SO WHAT DOES THAT 68 YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT PRETTY REMARKABLE. IT'S BEEN HERE IN MARY'S WERE PART OF ITS SKYLINE HERITAGE COOPERATIVE , PURCHASED THE 277 ACRES ON SCOTLAND IN 2014. THEY OPENED UP THAT CENTER IN 2016. AS I SAID EARLIER, THEY'VE INVESTED $36 MILLION PLUS THE INVESTMENT THEY'VE MADE OVER THE YEARS IN THE UPTOWN GREEN TERMINAL OVER THE YEARS. UM THEY ALSO IN 2021 DONATED THE UPTOWN GRAIN TURMOIL THAT INCLUDES TWO ACRES TO THE CITY. JEREMY ALSO HAD AN APPRAISAL DONE. IT'S A VALUED ABOUT $550,000. IN TODAY'S DOLLARS AND THEN ALSO, THEY HAVE INVESTED A LOT OF INVESTMENT. A LOT MADE A LOT OF INVESTMENTS AS WELL AS CREATING JOBS IN THE COMMUNITY, JUST SOME OF THE IMPACTS THAT HERITAGES HAD, ALTHOUGH IT WAS PREVIOUS OWNERS PRIOR TO, BUT I THOUGHT THOSE WERE IMPORTANT TO ME AS WELL.

BUT AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATION IS DETERMINATE AND I'LL YOU KNOW, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T KNOW. IF TERRY YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT. NOTHING REALLY BAD, BUT JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS , YOU KNOW, UH BASICALLY WHEN WE WENT THROUGH COVID THERE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, UM, THERE IS AN INTEREST AS A PART OF THE TURK BOARD TO BE HESITANT TOWARD TAKEN AGGRESSIVE ACTION AGAINST SOMEBODY LIKE HERITAGE AT THAT TIME, BUT WERE CLEARLY OUT OF THAT TIME PERIOD AND THEY'RE STILL NOT MEETING THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE ABATEMENT. SO IT WAS THE UNANIMOUS DECISION OF THE TURK BOARD TO COME IN WITH THIS. REQUEST TO TERMINATE THAT AGREEMENT, AND I THINK THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION WE DO TAKE THE ABATEMENTS VERY SERIOUSLY. AND YOU KNOW HERITAGE IS A GREAT COMPANY. THEY PLEDGED CERTAIN NUMBERS THAT UNFORTUNATELY JUST WEREN'T ABLE TO MEET AND THE ABATEMENT WAS BASED ON THE MEETING THOSE NUMBERS THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO MEET THOSE NUMBERS, SO THEREFORE THERE IS A REPERCUSSION. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT. ABATEMENT FOR THE LAST YEAR. UM, YOU KNOW, AS ERIC MENTIONED, WE REVIEW THESE EVERY YEAR. I ACTUALLY REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR BECAUSE THEY WERE DOWN, BUT WE HAD MENTIONED THAT WITH COVID. WE WERE KINDA YOU KNOW, GIVEN. TAKING A LITTLE SOFTER STANCE WITH SOME COMPANIES. COUPLE OF OTHER COMPANIES HAVE HAD SOME THINGS MODIFIED THIS YEAR AS WELL. UM YOU KNOW IT WHEN A COMPANY APPLIES FOR AN ABATEMENT NUMBER ONE. IT'S NOT JUST WILLY NILLY GIVEN OUT WE GO THROUGH AND NEGOTIATION PROCESS. AND. WE DO HOLD THEM TO WHAT THEY HAVE PLEDGED. SO UNFORTUNATELY, FOR HERITAGE. THEY JUST WEREN'T ABLE TO MEET WHAT BUT THEY PLEDGED.

THIS IS GOOD. UM COULD WE ASSUME THAT THE PROPERTY THANK YOU THAT THE PROPERTY TAXES THAT ARE

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I DO NOT HAVE THOSE NUMBERS I CAN HAVE FOR THE NEXT BX. YOU KNOW, I AGAIN SO HERE. HERE'S THE PROBLEM WITH AN ACCUSE SOME OF THE ACCUSES ARE NOT TAXED FROM HER PROPERTY, SO I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT. DON'T HAVE AN EMAIL OUT TO THE COUNTY AUDITOR. I DO TODAY ACTUALLY, TO FIND OUT SOME MORE NUMBERS ON HOW MUCH HAS BEEN ABATED SINCE DAY ONE. SO AT LEAST WE KNOW THAT FACT AND I'LL BRING THAT NEXT TO ACCOUNT NEXT COUNCIL SLIDE THAT SAID 85,000. WOULD YOU GO BACK A SECOND? LET ME SEE IT AGAIN, BECAUSE IS THAT REAL PROPERTY TAXES PAID 85,000 OVER NINE YEARS IS LAST YEAR THAT'S 21 YEAR PAID 85,000 A YEAR. UNDER AN ABATEMENT. THAT WAS A 75% ABATEMENT. CAN'T SAY THAT'S DONE EVER BEEN EVER DONE NUMBER PROBABLY VARIES BASED UPON THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY THAT YEAR, AND I'M NOT HOLDING YOU THE NUMBERS. BUT MY POINT IS THE PROPERTY ON NORTH MAIN STREET AT A VALUE OF $550,000. AND I KNOW IT DOESN'T FORMALLY FIGURE INTO THE TURK OR TAX ABATEMENT, AND IT'S NOT A FORMAL BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IN THIS SITUATION, THE 550,000. APPROXIMATE VALUE OF THAT LAND HAS HAS MORE THAN OFFSET ONE MORE YEAR. PROPERTY TAXES, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT TURK CAN'T TAKE THAT WHOLE THING INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT CERTAINLY AS COUNSEL I CAN IF I'M THERE IF I'M VOTING ON PULLING THAT ABATEMENT AWAY. I'M I'M GOING TO ALSO BALANCE IT AGAINST $550,000 CERTAINLY. SOME OFFSET THAT CAN'T FIGURE INTO A FORMAL FORMULA. CAN YOU NEED TO ADD ONE MORE FIGURE TO THAT? THEY DO TO THE DETERIORATION OF THE PAINT. THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO REPAINT AT A SUM OF ABOUT 354 $100,000. OKAY SO IT'S STILL 150 DIFFERENT. SO IT'S ABOUT 150. YEAH I MEAN, THEY SAVED A BUNCH OF MONEY BY GIVING THE PROPERTY TO US. BUT YOU, YOU MAKE A VALID POINT. I MEAN, THERE'S OTHER BENEFITS TO HAVING COMPANIES IN YOUR COMMUNITY. YOU DON'T ALWAYS HEAR WHAT HONDA OR SCOTS AND I'M USING THE BIG ONES HERE THAT THAT DONATIONS THE INVESTMENTS TO VOLUNTEER HOURS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GET THAT WE DON'T COUNT AND WE DON'T HAVE UP HERE ON SLIDE UNLESS WE HAVE SPECIFIC DATA. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS COMPANIES DO THAT. THEY DON'T EVEN OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. THE OTHER THING YOU SEE THAT I MEAN, COUNCIL TOOK A YOU KNOW A BIG STEP FORWARD, AND THIS IS AN ABATEMENT FOR AN AG USE. I MEAN, WE HAVE SCOTT'S, WHICH IF WE HAVE, WE'RE BLESSED TO HAVE AGRICULTURAL COMPANIES IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DO INVESTMENTS AND IN OHIO. YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY THIS WHEN YOU HOW TO MAKE THINGS. WE KNOW HOW TO GROW THINGS. AND SO WE KNOW MANUFACTURING, NO AGRICULTURE, AND I THINK THIS IS REALLY GREAT TO SEE THE FOR US TO STEP FORWARD AND ACTUALLY IN CENTER AND SENT, YOU KNOW AN AG TYPE OF USE BECAUSE SOME COMMUNITIES MAY NOT INCENT AGRICULTURE USES SO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION, ERIC, SO THEY BUY TEXT EXAMS 75% SO. ACCORDING IF I FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT NICHES GROW TESTS THIS IS ONLY 1/4. SO REASONABLY SPEAKING, WE COULD SAY THAT THE FULL AMOUNT WOULD BE TIMES FORWARD OR ABOUT 320,000, WHICH THEY FROM THIS DAY FORWARD. WILL PAY AND MAYBE, UM, UNDER THE EGG MIGHT BE SOMEBODY ATION, BUT IN REALITY, IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. BECAUSE MAYBE MAYBE WE GET MAYBE WE GET SOME, UM INSIDE MILLETS OUT OF IT, BUT OTHERWISE I DON'T THINK THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE IS THE BIGGEST SUPPLICANT OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, THE ADDITIONAL SO THAT WILL GO TO WHAT INSTITUTIONS AND OTHERS THAT MONEY GO TO YEAH. 70 TO 75% OF BEING ON THE YEAR GOES TO MARYSVILLE SCHOOL DISTRICT, SO IT WILL BENEFIT INTO THE MOST . THE REST MOSTLY GOES TO THE COUNTY AGENCIES AS WELL. OKAY I CANNOT VALIDATE OR CONFIRM THAT 300. I KNOW YOU CAN TIMES FOUR AND COME UP WITH THAT FIGURE.

HOWEVER AGRICULTURE. YOU KNOW THE CAUTION HERE. I PUT PLACES THAT SOME AGRICULTURE USES. DO NOT ARE ARE ARE BAITED ALREADY FROM PAYING PROPERTY TAXES. SO DOING THAT EXACT MATH COULD BE RIGHT. BUT IT ALSO COULD BE WRONG. WE JUST NEED TO GET VERIFICATIONS WANT THAT AND I CAN. I CAN WORK ON THAT FOR YOUR NEXT MEETING TO GET A BETTER NUMBER FROM THE COUNTY AUDITOR.

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MACKENZIE OF JUST WONDER, MAYBE STEP BACK AND GO, I GUESS, UM, WHEN WE BRING THIS UP JUST TO GO BACK WHERE WE WHERE WE CAME FROM HERE TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT TO THIS SO THE CITY AND JEROME TOWNSHIP ACTUALLY APPROVED A COOPERATIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT QUITE A FEW YEARS AGO, AND THEN WE UPDATED HERE LAST YEAR, AND IT IS AN AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS US TO SET UP A JED IN JEROME TOWNSHIP. IN OHIO, YOU CAN CREATE AN INCOME TAX AND AN UNINCORPORATED AREA. UM AND THAT INCOME TAX CAN THEN BE INVESTED INTO INFRASTRUCTURE. AT LEAST THAT'S THE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO WITH IT AND WHAT WE DID. WE APPROVED A CETA THE COOPERATIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. BUT THE MAIN REASON WHY WE DID THAT. IT ALLOWS US TO BASICALLY CREATE ONE JET BOARD.

TO SERVE ALL THE JET AREA BECAUSE THE COOPERATIVE DEVELOPMENT AREAS MUCH LARGER AND LARGER THAN THE JET. IT JUST SAYS HERE IS THE AREA IN WHICH IF YOU NEED A WATER AND SEWER TAP, YOU GOT TO JOIN THE JED AND SO INSTEAD OF HAVING A JET BOARD FOR EACH PROPERTY THAT'S ADDED THE COOPERATIVE ECONOMICS HOME AGREEMENT ALLOWS US TO HAVE ONE JET BOARD FOR ALL THE PROPERTIES WE HAD, AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT WAS SET UP AND YOU CAN SEE THE FIVE MEMBER BOARD THAT'S ACTUALLY ON THERE AS WELL. IT GIVES YOU A BREAKDOWN OF THE TERM AND WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE CETA. IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT THE TOWNSHIP RESPONSIBILITIES WHAT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITIES ARE IN THIS ARRANGEMENT AS WELL. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE APPROVED HERE ACTUALLY REAPPROVED THIS PAST YEAR. SO SOME OF THE JED'S REQUIREMENTS IS THAT YOU'RE PRAYING SUPPORTING THE JET OPERATION. YOU'RE ALSO DOING JOINT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. YOU ALSO WORK WITH THE COUNTY ON ROAD SERVICE SINCE THEY TAKE CARE OF THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES IN THE TOWNSHIP AND ALSO TAX INCENTIVE APPROVALS OF THE JUDGE BOARD WOULD ACTUALLY REVIEW THOSE IT WAS ALWAYS EQUAL TO THE CITY'S INCOME TAX, THE 1.5% AS WELL. THE BREAKDOWN OF REVENUES WOULD GO 60% TO THE JET BOARD, WHICH ACTUALLY HAS 55% OF ITS INFRASTRUCTURE. FIBER PERCENT OF BOARD MANAGEMENT AND THEN 20% WILL GO TO THE CITY, WHICH INCLUDES THE COLLECTION FEE AND 20% WOULD GO TO THE TOWNSHIP. THAT'S THE BREAKDOWN WE HAVE NOW. UNDERSTAND THE JED. UH WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TONS OF MONEY IN THAT POT FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. SO YOU GOTTA BUILD THAT POT AND PART OF THAT IS ADDING PROPERTIES TO THE JET TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO TONIGHT.

WE'RE HERE TO ADD TWO MORE PROPERTIES NUMBER SEVEN AND NUMBER EIGHT. THIS GIVES YOU A MAP. UM AND UM OF THE OF THE AREA, AND YOU CAN SEE ONE AND TWO. THIS IS ACTUALLY COURSE US.

33 THIS IS INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY. THIS IS US 42. THIS MAN IS A SUBSET, WHICH IS UP IN NATIONWIDE REAL FUTURE. REALLY DOE 42, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE THREE PROPERTIES HERE BELONG INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY AND ALSO 33 OF THE 54 AND FIVE OR AWS PROPERTIES. THE TWO WERE ADDING HIS NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS ACTUALLY COLOSSUS, A FUEL CELL TECHNOLOGY COMPANY, AND THEY'RE ALSO ADDING KROEBER PHOTOS RECENTLY ANNOUNCED FOR OUR SOUL MUSIC THAT DAY. GROUNDBREAKING AS WELL. BUT EACH TIME WE HAD PROPERTIES, THE CITY AND THE TOWNSHIP HAVE TO APPROVE THOSE ADDITIONS TO THE JET TO CREATE THE JET AREA SO WE CAN COLLECT INCOME TAX AS WELL. AND YES, IT APPLIES TO CONSTRUCTION AS WELL. SO THE KROGER'S JUST NOW BEGINNING CONSTRUCTION, SO WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY DRAW HOPEFULLY CONSTRUCTION INCOME TAX ON THAT AS WELL. IT ALSO

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THAT'S RIGHT. SURE. UNDER YOUR 60% JED, INCLUDING MHM EMPHASIS ON THAT 55% INFRASTRUCTURE. YES THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT. THAT'S WHY YOU DO A JET MORE. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE 100% GOING IN INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE AGAIN IF YOU DON'T PUT IT, INFRASTRUCTURE , YOU DON'T CREATE INVESTMENT AND YOU DON'T CREATE JOBS AND MORE JOBS. YOU CREATE THE MORE INCOME TAX. YOU HAVE TO GO INTO THE POT TO PAY FOR FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE. SO TOTALLY AGREE. NOW. I THINK TERRY CAN SPEAK TO THIS. THE CITY IS COMMITTED. IT'S 20% AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO GO INTO THE WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM, I THINK DOWN IN THE TOWNSHIP YES. AS TIME GOES ON, IT JUST BENEFITS US IN THE LONG RUN, SO THE MORE THIS BUILDS, THE MORE IT SETS US UP TO TWO. AS ERIC SAYS, ADD MORE INCOME TAX. THERE WILL BE A POINT IN TIME. QUITE A WHILE. DOWN THE ROAD WHERE THIS FUND WILL BE SUBSTANTIAL, AND SO THERE WILL BE EVERY OPPORTUNITY NOT ONLY FOR US TO PUT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS IN BUT TO POTENTIALLY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THE CITY AS WELL. NOW THE ONE QUESTION I HAD ERIC ADAMS CHANGES SUBJECTS MOLASSES WAS IS AN EXISTING COMPANY. SO ARE THERE IS THIS A NEW FACILITY FOR THEM BECAUSE MOLASSES HAS EXISTED IN DROME AND EXISTING COMPANIES TYPICALLY DON'T FALL INTO THE JED CATEGORY , BUT HELP ME HERE, SO THEY SET A AREA WE WERE PURPOSEFUL. WHEN WE APPROVED THIS. THE CITY HAS BEEN VERY STRONG IN THIS. WE ONLY DID LARGE TRACTS OF UNDEVELOPED LAME. WE DID NOT WANT TO CREATE AN INCOME TAX FOR EXISTING BUSINESSES. THAT WAS THE CONCERN BECAUSE THAT'S NOT REALLY FAIR. AFTER YOU LOCATE HERE NOW WE HAD AN INCOME TAX, SO THEREFORE IT'S ONLY FOR NEW UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES.

VELOCITIES ACTUALLY WAS LOCATED IN A SITE 8100 CORPORATE BOULEVARD, WHICH IS FOR FARTHER SOUTH OF THIS SITE. AND DECIDED IT WANTED TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING. WE WERE ACTUALLY COMPETING WITH TEXAS AND ALABAMA FOR THAT PROJECT, AND I'M TELLING YOU, IT'S ONE OF THE COOLEST COMPANIES IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY, AND THEY DO FUEL CELL TECHNOLOGY WHERE THEY TAKE WASTE PRODUCT AND ONE END OF REACTOR AND NOW THE INCOMES JET FUEL, AND THEY HAVE CONTRACTS WITH SOME SOME MAJOR AIRLINES FOR THAT, FOR THAT PROCESS AND BUILDING THESE ARE MAKING THESE REACTORS THAT THEY ACTUALLY DO THIS WORK. SO VELOCITY WAS WAS, YOU KNOW EXCEPTION BECAUSE THEY LOCATED ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS UNDEVELOPED, A LARGE TRACK THAT THEN TRIGGERED THE NEED FOR THE INCOME TAX RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY PAY INCOME TAX. AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE BEING ADEQUATE. GREAT GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S A LARGE TRACK OF UNDEVELOPED LAND. AND IF YOU IF YOU DON'T MIND, DID THEY, UM, PAY INCOME TAX OVER THE PREVIOUS LOCATION OR THERE NEVER WAS A LOCATION PREVIOUS LOCATION. SO IF I DON'T, I'M SURE PRIVACY YOU MAP IN HERE. SO THIS LARGE SECTION OF DEVELOPED AREA WE EXCLUDE, OKAY? I MEAN, IT'S BEAUTIFUL HOUSE TIED IN THIS ENTIRE EPICUREAN TAX ON THESE BUSINESSES YOU HAVE BEFORE HOUSE TOMORROW, OKAY WITH INCOME TAX DOESN'T UNDERSTAND. IT'S ALSO MET. PROFITS TAX INCOME. AND SO THAT'S THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN. SO THEY WERE LOOKING AT, UH FROM SYRIA TO THIS AREA HERE, WHICH IS A LARGE DEVELOPED. OKAY GOT THAT AREA C AND AREA THAT TRIGGERED THE NEED. OKAY ECONOMIC INVOLVED IN CONTEXT, BUT THE OTHER POINT. HERE ON THIS DEVELOPMENT IS THAT YOU KNOW, THERE'S THIS DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HEARD A LOT IS TO MAKE CERTAIN THE DEVELOPMENT PAYS FOR ITSELF, AND THE JET IS A GREAT TOOL TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN WHERE WE ARE NOW CREATING INCOME TAX THAT CREATES REALLY AN INFRASTRUCTURE FUND TO SUPPORT FUTURE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.

SO IN A SENSE, THEY'RE PAYING FOR DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE SURE IT PAYS FOR ITSELF. AND SO THIS IS THE WAY YOU CAN DO THAT, AND IT'S A GREAT TOOL TO UTILIZE. AND THEN ONE MORE THING IS DEFINITELY, UM, BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED THE UTILITIES WHEN IT COMES TO OUR WATER AND SOIL.

THIS IS ALMOST AN AUTOMATIC THAT THE IF THEY WANT TO HAVE IT, THEY HAVE TO BE PART OF THE JET.

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OKAY BECAUSE THE QUESTION ALWAYS HAS A WEALTH OF COMPANY DOESN'T EXPANSION OF THEIR EXISTING BUSINESS. NO THAT'S NOT IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE MOST OF THESE AREAS ARE NOT IN THE JET AREA AND VELOCITY WAS AWARE WHEN THEY MOVED LOCATIONS THAT THEY WOULD BE INSIDE THE CDA SLASH JED AND THAT THAT WOULD BE UH, INPUT THE TAX WOULD BE IMPOSED. CORRECT THEY WERE AWARE OF IT.

THEY'VE ALREADY MOVED TO THAT LOCATION. SO THIS IS KIND OF AN AFTER FACT, ADDITION. UM SO, UM, THAT WILL HAVE TO BE EXPLAINED TO THE EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS WE GO THROUGH THIS. THEY DID GET A TAX ABATEMENT THROUGH THE COUNTY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE TOWNSHIP. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS AN ANOTHER TOOL OF AGAIN CREATING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE FUND WILL SUPPORT FUTURE GROWTH. OKAY AND WHEN IT COMES TO TAMING, THIS WILL GO BACK TO SECOND READING AND THEN IT SHOULD WRAP UP BY THE END OF THE YEAR. YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT TIMING THAT WORKS PERFECTLY BECAUSE WE'RE IN A TIMELINE. THERE'S A THERE'S A VARIANT AND MACKENZIE KNOWS THAT SHE'S ON TOP OF IT. BUT THE TOWNSHIP HAS TO PROVE AND YOU HAVE TO PROVE IN A CERTAIN TIME FRAME, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH. SO THE THREE READINGS WORKS PERFECTLY. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY VERY NONE. THEN WILL THE BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON

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THE HOPE DO THIS REDEVELOPMENT PROCESS IS THAT NEW RESIDENTS WILL BE BROUGHT INTO THE COMMUNITY NEW CUSTOMERS FOR THE EXISTING DOWNTOWN BUSINESS AS WELL AS SERVING AS AN ATTRACTION POINT FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA FOR NEW VISITORS TO COME AND EXPERIENCE DOWNTOWN MARYSVILLE.

LIKE TO QUICKLY WALK THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND THEN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

SIR. HERE'S A MAP SHOWING THE EXISTING PROPERTIES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT REDEVELOPING. AND.

WELL, UH, PROPERTIES. EIGHT AND THREE. YOU WILL SEE HAVE BEEN ADDED RECENTLY TO, UH, THOSE THAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED AS WELL AS IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT CITY HAS CLOSED ON PROPERTY NUMBER SEVEN THAT WOULD ALSO BE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. HERE YOU SEE PROPOSED USES FOR THE DIFFERENT SITES FOCUSED ON THE NORTHERN AREA WITH TOWN HOMES AND APARTMENTS AS WELL AS TOWN HOMES AND APARTMENTS ON THE SOUTHERN LOCATION, ANCHORED BY HOSPITALITY OFFICE AND A VARIETY OF OTHER COMMERCIAL USES. PICTURE OF EXISTING DOWNTOWN MARYSVILLE AND THEN PULLING IN ONTO SPECIFICALLY THE SITES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT REDEVELOPING THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. OUR GOAL IS TO REDEVELOP THESE SITES IN A SIMILAR MANNER TO HOW WE'VE

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WITH MODERN DESIGN, AS WELL AS NEW HOSPITALITY ITEMS SUCH AS ROCK CLIMBING WALLS THAT LEVERAGE NEW TECHNOLOGY AND HELPED CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS NOT JUST FRIENDLY FOR OLDER INDIVIDUALS BUT ALSO OFFERS EVENT SPACE AND OTHER HOSPITALITY ITEMS FOR YOUNGER INDIVIDUALS AS WELL. AND THEN COWORKING AND OFFICE LOCATIONS BEING BROUGHT TO THE SITE AS WELL. HERE YOU CAN SEE EXAMPLE OF FINISHED INTERIORS THAT WE WERE DOING ACROSS THE STREET FROM TROLLEY DISTRICT AT THE TROLLEY APARTMENT COMPLEX. THIS WOULD BE THE SIMILAR TYPE OF DESIGN THAT WE WOULD SEE AT PROJECT IN MARYSVILLE. SO AGAIN, UM, DEFINITELY NOT YOUR STANDARD , TRADITIONAL HIGHER AND QUALITY SUDDENLY WOULD BE NICE, BUT AGAIN, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING IN A MANNER THAT OFFERS FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING OPTIONS AS WELL. AND THEN ALONG THE STREETSCAPE, WE'RE SHOWING PICTURES ON THE LEFT OF THE EXISTING DOWNTOWN AREA IN THE MIDDLE. WHAT YOU SEE TODAY AND THEN ON THE RIGHT AND INSPIRATION OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WHOLE STRETCH THAT WE REDEVELOPING LOOKING LIKE ADDING GREENERY UNDERGROUND IN THE POWER LINES, LAMPPOSTS VERY MUCH BUILDING OFF THE GREAT WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, EXTENDING THAT NORTHWARD. BRINGING THAT NORTHERN SITE INTO CONNECTION WALK ABILITY WITH THE EXISTING DOWNTOWN AREA. AND THEN FROM A PROJECT AMENITY STANDPOINT, ESPECIALLY ON THE PARKS AND RECREATION FRONT, UH, ADDING A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE ACROSS MILLCREEK. THIS BRIDGE WILL CONNECT THE SOUTHERN PARCEL TO THE NORTHERN PARCEL SERVING AS A PATHWAY FOR RESIDENTS AND OTHERS TO BE ABLE TO CROSS WITHOUT HAVING TO GO ONTO MAIN STREET EXTENSION OF THE EXISTING TRAIL SYSTEM. OUR GOAL IS TO CONNECT THAT BRING IT THROUGH THE PROPERTIES THAT CONNECT WOULD BE TAKING ON UP NORTH AND TYING IT INTO THE TRAIL THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS OVER AROUND THE DOG PARK AREA LOCATED TO THE NORTHWEST OF THIS SITE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT REDEVELOPING PARK LIKE SETTINGS ALONG THE WATERFRONT. THIS IS KEY FOR US. WE REALLY WANT TO TAKE THAT WATER FOR MAKING A VIBRANT AREA. WE THINK THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT A DESTINATION.

MAKING SURE IT RETAINS GREEN OPEN SPACE AREAS FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY PULL PEOPLE IN DURING THE SUMMER AND THEN ALSO COMMUNITY ARTS AREA. WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS TO KEEP MANY OF THE EXISTING SILOS THAT ARE IN THAT AREA, REPOSITION THEM SO THAT WE CAN SHOWCASE LOCAL ART. AND DESIGNS UP AND ON THAT THROUGH IMAGERY, SO NOT WHERE WE WOULD BE PAINTING IT, BUT WHERE WE WOULD BE PROJECTING IMAGES UP AND ONTO THE SILOS, MAKING THAT AVAILABLE FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL TO HIGHLIGHT DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THEY HAVE GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. UH ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE IMPROVED STREETSCAPE ALSO WORKING TO FACILITATE PUBLIC PARKING. WE KNOW THAT PUBLIC PARKING CAN BE CONCERNED. I CAME DOWN TONIGHT. LUCKILY ERIC HAD LET ME KNOW THAT IT WAS A TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY. SO I GOT DOWN A LITTLE EARLIER, BUT DEFINITELY A LOT OF PEOPLE IN DOWNTOWN NOT IS EASY FINDING, PARKING AND SO WANTING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE DATA MINNITI AS WELL IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY. AND THEN ALSO A FITNESS FACILITY, LOCATED ON SITE LOOKING AT THAT, HAVING BOTH RESIDENT AND BUSINESS ORIENTED USES OPERATING OUT OF THERE AND THEN WE'VE ALSO BEEN

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COALITION. LOOK DOWN. THANKS FOR THAT. NO HAPPY TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THIS ISN'T CONNECT WAS LOOKING AT THIS SITE IN PARTICULAR THE WATER PLANT SITE, PROBABLY ABOUT FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO. SO THIS IS HAS BEEN KIND OF A SITE THAT THEY VISION THAT WOULD FIT SOME OF THE SIMILAR DEVELOPMENTS THEY'VE DONE WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. HENCE WHY WE TOOK CITY COUNCIL.

ON THE TOUR OF THE TROLLEY DISTRICT AND THE OLD POWER PLANT BECAUSE WE WANTED CITY COUNCIL TO SEE SOME OF THEIR PROJECTS FIRSTHAND. WE'VE WE'VE SPOKE TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS, THEY SAY CONNECT IS HAS BEEN FANTASTIC IT BRING IN SOME OF THESE SITES BACK TO SOME OF THE ORIGINAL STATE THAT SOME PEOPLE MAY REMEMBER HIM AS YEARS AGO. UM THIS THIS IS AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY. AND JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS BRAD HAS BEEN CONSISTENT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS AND SAYING THEY THEY WANT TO MEET WITH THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS. THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS OR ARE COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE'RE AT WHAT THE PROCESS IS. UM, HE ASKED AGAIN TODAY. LET'S GET SOME SET UP. SO BOB SET SEND ME A COUPLE OF DATES AND WE'LL GET WE'LL GET SOME. WE HAVE OUR THREE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS RIGHT HERE. RIGHT UP FRONT TODAY, SO WE'LL GET HIM SET UP, SO YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM AS WELL IN BRO WAS TRYING TO GET ME DATES. HE WAS LOOKING TO FREE UP SOMETIME IN THE NEXT 2 TO 3 WEEKS. WE COULD GET YOU FOUR OR FIVE TIMES TO MAKE SURE EVEN IF WE HAD TO COME UP MULTIPLE TIMES, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT TRIP UP IN THE NEXT 2 TO 3 WEEKS. SOUNDS GOOD AND JUST TO GO A LITTLE FURTHER ON CONNECT CONNECTS CONNECTION TO MARYSVILLE. BRAD ANNAN IS A MARYSVILLE GRADUATE. AND ENGINEER. WHAT'S THIS TITLE? SO HE'S A PARTNER WITH THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY WITH BRAD SO IN HE BASICALLY SERVES AS HEAD OF OPERATIONS FOR THE COMPANY AS WELL AS TIED INTO THE MANUFACTURING SIDE OF THE COMPANY AS WELL. SO SEEING HIM OUT AND ABOUT AND MARYSVILLE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OCCASIONS, HE KEPT SAYING, I WANT CONNECT REALTY TO DO SOMETHING IN MARYSVILLE. AND AT THE TIME, UM WE ACTUALLY WALKED ACROSS THE STREET FROM LEON'S TO, UM THE ARMORY BUILDING. AND I SAID I'D LOVE FOR YOU GUYS TO BUY THE ARMORY BUILDING. THE CHURCH OWNS IT RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN TURN IT INTO, YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT'S ACTUALLY THE FIRST PIECE OF PROPERTY WILL THEN, LIKE TWO OR THREE WEEKS LATER, WE HAD BRAD TO HAZE COME UP WITH BRAD AND TERRY TOOK HIM TO THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT'S NOW GOING TO BE DECOMMISSIONED. AND THEY GOT REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT LOCATION, SO THAT'S KIND OF A LITTLE BACKGROUND AS TO HOW IT GOT STARTED. SO OBVIOUSLY BRAD AND WILL BE VERY INVOLVED IN THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. AND SO IT MARRIES WELLS NEAR AND DEAR TO HIS HEART, SO I THINK WE'VE SELECTED A GOOD PARTNER HERE. TOMORROW. EXACTLY. YEAH AND BRIGHT AND WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE

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HMM MRS COATES, YOU HAD A QUESTION NUMBER ONE IN THE EXPRESSED DEVELOPMENT COMPANY COMPANY EXPRESSED INTEREST IN DEALING WITH THIS SIDE. NO WE'VE HAD NO DISCUSSIONS WHAT WAS APPARENT VERY EARLY ON, UH AND EVEN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS WOULD TELL YOU THIS. THE EXPERIENCE OF CONNECT REALTY ON HISTORICAL BLIGHTED. BROWNFIELD SITES IS LIKE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF COMPANIES THAT ARE INTERESTED IN TAKING ON THOSE SITES BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SIT WITH IT, AND WHEN THE WITHIN THOSE AREAS SO IT BECAME VERY APPARENT EARLY ON THAT THEY WERE THE MOST EQUIPPED TO TAKE ON VARYING ITEMS THAT WE HAVE NOT ONLY IN THE SILO SIDE, BUT THE OLD WATER PLANT SITE. NOW THE CRAZY SCOTTY'S SITE. CAN FOR A COMMUNITY TO HAVE ABOUT 15 ACRES , AND IT'S UPTOWN THAT IT CAN REDEVELOP AS IT IS INTERESTED TO REDEVELOP IT, TOO, IS VERY UNUSUAL, ESPECIALLY IN THE SIZE OF COMMUNITY LIKE MARYSVILLE. SO YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED SOMEBODY WELL EQUIPPED TO DEAL WITH ALL THOSE ASPECTS. AND THEY CERTAINLY FIT THE BILL. YES, PLEASE. TALKING ABOUT NIGHT. UM READING WILL COME UP ON THE SEPARATING AND I'LL BE RIGHT. IN THE SIZE. WE ARE COMMITTING. ON YOU. PEOPLE ARENA TOO MUCH. AND FORMALLY MAKE THIS CONNECTION.

TO TACKLE THIS TODAY. IT'S CERTAIN FINAL DECISION. THAT'S THE WAY I WANT 10. 22 STRESSED US UNLESS THERE'S A REASON. FOR UM, AGENCY. I DO NOT WANT A DECISION ABOUT HOURS. PRIVATE.

INVESTMENT. TO BE PLACED ON WINDOWS COUNSEL AND I HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH GOING INTO JANUARY. YEAH IF I COULD ADDRESS THAT, AND I FULLY RESPECT THAT CONCERN, AND WE DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS ON THAT. AND IF THIS WAS A FINAL READING OF AN INCENTIVE STRUCTURE OR OF OUR ZONING FOR THE PROJECT, I WOULD FULLY AGREE WITH THAT THE APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN DECEMBER OPENS UP OUR ABILITY INTERNALLY TO BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD WITH OUR ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS AND OUR LEGAL TEAM TO GET THESE FINAL DOCUMENTS. PUT TOGETHER SO THAT THEY CAN COME BACK AND FRONT OF THE NEW COUNCIL FOR A VOTE. THE ITEM FOR US IS THIS. WE PURSUE THIS FOR A YEAR NOW WE'VE SPENT MONEY ON IT. WE HAVE CARRIED IT FORWARD. WE'RE NOT IN A SPOT WHERE WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. WITHOUT KNOWING THAT THERE'S A CERTAIN CONTROL OVER THE PROPERTY. IF THOSE AGREEMENTS ARE NOT APPROVED IN ZONING IS NOT THEN THAT PROPERTY RETURNS BACK TO THE CITY, AND ONLY TIME HAS BEEN SPENT AT THAT POINT, AS WELL AS THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT WILL BE OUT. BUT FOR US TO PROCEED FORWARD WITHOUT HAVING ANY CONTROL OF THE PROPERTY IS A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN FOR US. I DO FULLY UNDERSTAND YOUR STATEMENT. AND IF NOT FOR THAT, I WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY, ASKING FOR IT TO MOVE FORWARD. IF WE YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF WE ASK THAT QUESTION, DEB RIGHT UP FRONT WHEN, WHEN THE TRAIN IT WOULDN'T BE ELECTION OCCURRED POST ELECTION BOB REACHED OUT TO HIM. I SAID, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF HOLDING EVERYTHING OFF UNTIL JANUARY? AND WE LOOKED AT OUR TIMELINE AND THE CONCERN IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PLANNING AND ZONING DOCUMENTS READY TO GO BY Q TWO IS GOING TO REQUIRE MONTHS OF US WORKING ON IT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE IT ANYWHERE TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN OFFICIALLY CEMENT WE ARE WILLING TO TAKE THE RISK THAT THAT ZONING PLANNING AND DESIGN DOCUMENTS ARE NOT APPROVED AS WELL AS INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS. IF WE KNOW THAT THERE IS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THAT FIRST STEP IN THIS PROCESS HAS AT LEAST BEEN APPROVED FOR US TO CONTINUE FOR ANOTHER TWO MONTHS, UH, DOWN THAT PATH, INCURRING THOSE COSTS. WITH NOT HAVING THAT AGREEMENT IN PLACE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH AT THIS TIME, SO WE WOULD VERY MUCH ASKED FOR CONSIDERATION TO KEEP IT MOVING ME ASK YOU THIS AND THIS IS I HAVEN'T MENTIONED THIS TO YOU. BUT WE'RE GOING THROUGH A PROCESS HERE. WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THREE READINGS. IF WE MEET WITH THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND WE MEET AND WE GET

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AS YOU AS HAVE EVEN BEEN UP THROUGH THIS POINT. THE ONLY THING WE MAY HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME AND I MAY TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN GET HIM DOWN TO SOME OF THOSE LOCATIONS TO SEE THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE AT THE OLD WATER PLANT IN THE SILOS THEMSELVES IN RESTORING THOSE SITES. AND WE FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT'S APPROVED BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR DOES NOT CONSTITUTE APPROVAL OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS OR THE ZONING REQUESTS OR OF GOING IN FRONT OF PLANNING FOR SITE FOR FINAL SITE PLAN, COMPLIANCE AND ANY OF THESE OTHER STEPS. OKAY? ANYBODY ELSE GET IT? YOU KNOW, UM. I DO THINK YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU KNOW THE DEVELOPMENT OVERALL IS GOING TO BE IT NEEDS TO BE REDEVELOPED. THE REASON WHY I JOINED THE REASON WHY I WAS A PART OF THE LAND BANK IN THE BEGINNING IS TO START ACQUIRING SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES. UM I THINK THIS IS A WAY BETTER IDEA THAN PUTTING IN A SWIMMING POOL. UM I ALSO WHAT? ENCOURAGE THAT IF WE DO CREATE THIS DEVELOPMENT HERE, THEN THERE'S MORE OF A PUSH FROM THE CITY TO START INVESTING MORE HEAVILY IN DESIGN STANDARDS AND MAINTENANCE OF THE UPTOWN BUILDINGS. BECAUSE IF WE WANT TO ATTRACT THE YOUR TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS, YOU'RE ONLY GONNA MAKE YOUR MONEY BACK IF IT BECOMES A DESIRED AREA TO BE AND I STILL THINK THAT WE DO LACK AS A COMMUNITY PRESERVATION FROM DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AND WE LACK A DESIGN. I AND I STILL DO BELIEVE OUR ZONING CODE HAS TOO MANY LOOSE ENDS. UM I WILL STATE, THOUGH, THAT AND WHEN I SPEAK ABOUT DESIGN CODE AND ARE HIS ONLY HAS TO BE LOOSE ENDS. WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING US IS A PICTURE, BUT OUR ZONING CODE DOESN'T FORCE YOU TO BUILD ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY PROPOSING TO US. I HOW YOU KNOW I REMEMBER IN PLAYING SCHOOL. WE HAD TO DO A PROJECT ON THE TROLLEY DISTRICT WHEN YOU GUYS WERE BEFORE YOU KNOW IT WAS VACANT AND MOW GRASS WAS TALLER THAN I WAS AND EVERYTHING WAS DILAPIDATED. THERE'S A BIG HOLE IN THE ROAD, SO THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BUT PUT IN A TON OF MONEY TO SAY THEY COLUMBUS LANDMARK AND TO REVITALIZE THAT AREA. UM BUT THOSE APARTMENTS. UM, EDUCATE ME ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE APARTMENTS LIKE WHERE ARE THEY? BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT BROKEN BROKE GROUND ON ANY OF THOSE APARTMENTS CORRECT. UH SO CURRENTLY THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 30 OF THOSE APARTMENT UNITS THAT ARE FINALIZED IN THE MANUFACTURING FACILITY READY TO BE PLACED ON SITE. THE OVERALL PROJECT WILL BE A MIDDLE CORRIDOR PROJECT WITH APARTMENTS ON EITHER SIDE ELEVATOR LOCATED IN THE MIDDLE IN THE SERVICE. I BELIEVE THIS IS A. TOPPING. THERE WE GO. AH! SO THE MAIN ENTRY POINT ON THIS IS LOCATED HERE. THE BUILDING LOCATED RIGHT HERE IS THIS OUT. BRING AT THIS LOCATION HERE. SO YOU SEE A LARGE GLASS ENTRYWAY VESTIBULE LOCATED RIGHT IN ON THE MAIN ENTRY, GOING UP TWO

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HMM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY ALRIGHTY. SO IF IT'S POSSIBLE BOB CAN BE MAYBE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DOLLARS AND CENTS. OKAY SO THERE IS NO DOUBT IN ANYBODY'S MIND THAT ALREADY LOOKING AT THE SILOS NOW, HAVING THOSE BUILDINGS SEE MOVED IS AN IMPROVEMENT. YEAH CASES CANDY THE SAME WAY. I MEAN, THERE'S NO DOUBT AND WHETHER WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS OR NOT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT GUNS REVEALS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE SO THAT PART IS GOING TO HAPPEN. UM SINCE THE BEHIND THE WATER TOWER THAT'S ABOUT A 7.9 ACRES, ACTUALLY, MAYBE 2 $2.5 MILLION TO MAKE ITS SITE READY. YEAH SO ALTOGETHER WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE, UM UM. IN WHAT IS IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT $3 MILLION? I SAY READY WOULD DO YOU MEAN JUST REMEDIATION OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS AND THE TANKS IN THERE OR THE OVERALL IN FILL AND ALL OF THAT TYPE WORK APPEAL , AND THEY STILL MAKE IT OVERALL, YOU CAN REALISTICALLY TO GO NORTH WITHOUT HAVING ENGINEERS ON SITE TO DO COMPACT STUDIES ON THAT, PHIL. IT'S TOUGH TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW FOR JUST A REMEDIATION FACTOR FOR THE ENTIRE SITE. WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING PRICES COMING OUT RIGHT NOW. IT'S 2.5 TO 3 MILLION IS OUR ASSUMPTION, THEN GETTING INFILL WORK ALONG WITH THAT IS PROBABLY AROUND ANOTHER 2 TO 3 MILLION. UM, AND THEN YOU'RE LOOKING POSSIBLE CONTAMINATION AND THEN ALSO NAVIGATING SOME AP ARMY CORE ISSUES UP AGAINST THE WATERWAY AS WE LOOK AT HOW DO WE DO THAT PATH WORK? UM AND THEN, JUST WITHOUT DIVING INTO IT WITH A FULL ENGINEER, THERE'S GOING TO PROBABLY BE SOME ENTRANCE AND EXIT SITE COMPLIANCE ISSUES BEFORE FULL WORK COULD START. I MEAN, NOT HAVING THOSE NUMBERS. THEY DON'T WANT TO THROW OUT SOMETHING RANDOM BUT WELL, NORTH OF 5 MILLION, OKAY, SO HOW MUCH OF THAT IS THE CITY PUTTING INTO IT? AND HOW MUCH IS YOUR COMPANY PUTTING INTO IT AGAIN WITHOUT HAVING THAT WHOLE INFILL WORK GOING ON? THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH WITH THE WORK ON SITE AGREEMENT IS WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AT THIS TIME. IT'S NOT FULLY COVERED. IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. UM. BUT OUR ASSUMPTION IS THAT SOME WORK WOULD BE DONE BY THE CITY. SOME WORK WILL BE UNDERTAKEN BY CONNECT BECAUSE I'VE ONLY AND LET ME SEE THERE ABOUT 32 PAGES ONLY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ IT THREE TIMES AND THEY STILL DON'T GET IT ALL. SO MAYBE I'M A SLOW LEARNER. IF YOU GO TO THE

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YEAH I WOULD DISAGREE ON THAT TALKING WITH OUR FINANCING STRUCTURE IN THIS CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH CITY STAFF IS THE DONATION OF THE LAND IS NOT VIEWED AS AN ASSET AT THIS TIME.

THEY ARE BROWNFIELD VACANT SITES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN A FLOODPLAIN AREA. WE HAVE TO DO A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SITE WORK TO BRING THEM BACK TO A STATUS IN WHICH THEY CAN THEN BE REDEVELOPED AND THEN INCURRING THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH SECURING PROPER ZONING, PROPER PLANNING, AND THEN THE FINANCING STRUCTURE BEHIND IT. OKAY, BUT THEN, ESPECIALLY THE PURCHASE THAT WE HAVE FOR THE. THE FIRST PART WAS THE SILOS WERE DONATED TO US THE CASES CUTIE THAT WAS PURCHASED BY THE CITY. UM BUT THEN THE, UM AND AGAIN YOU CAN TELL YOU YOU HAVE THAT EXPENSE ANYWAY, BUT THAT IS AN EXPENSE THAT THE CITY HAS TO ENCOURAGE IS TO MAKE THE SITE BEHIND THE WATER PLANT WHERE WE ALWAYS DUMP THE STUFF THAT CAME OUT OF THE WATER. ALL OF THAT WILL NEED TO BE CLEANED UP. AND ONCE IT'S DONE, THEN IT WILL BE DONATED TO YOUR COMPANY. SO WE'VE ALSO PUT IN CONTRACTS SECURE YOU AS WELL AS FOR 90. THOSE ARE TWO THAT WERE NOT CONTROLLED BY THE CITY AND THAT WE'VE GONE OUT TO SECURE TO HELP FOR REDEVELOPMENT SIDE. UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WE WOULD IMMEDIATELY PAID THE CITY TO 25,000 THAT IT SPENT FOR ITS ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY NUMBER SEVEN. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PROPERTY SIX CRAZY SCOTTY WAS ALWAYS IS THE INTENT OF THE CITY. TO PICK UP AND REPOSITION IT AS WELL. OKAY YEAH, DUDE. WELL, THE END OF THE NATION AGAIN. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO MORE READINGS ABOUT THIS. SO UM AND I THINK WE ALL WANTED, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE TO REALLY ASK OURSELVES. CAN WE AFFORD IT? YEAH AND THAT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT I PERSONALLY STRUGGLE WITH TODAY. YEAH, THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THE NEXT MEETING WE HAVE, FOR ONCE WE HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT.

YEAH I'M TOTALLY IN SUPPORT OF YOUR COMPANY OF THE IDEA. THE BIGGEST QUESTION IS, YEAH, THAT CAN BE AS A CITY AFFORDED. YEAH AND IT IT IT THE LAST ELECTION. BUT BASICALLY A QUESTION MARK.

YEAH AND AGAIN I CAN FINISH THIS UP REAL QUICK, SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. NO JUST DROPPED OFF THE SCREEN. I WAS HOPING TO BE ABLE TO GET IT BACK. OH, OKAY. READY OKAY, SO LET'S LET'S MOVE BACK FOR A MOMENT TO THE APARTMENTS. OKAY YOU SAID AFFORDABLE APARTMENTS, BUT, OF COURSE AFFORDABLE DOES NOT MEAN AUTOMATICALLY TITLED EAT AFFORDABLE MEANS THAT IT IS AFFORDABLE, TOO. WHOEVER GOES IN THERE, SO WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT? AS FAR AS BUT PRICE RANGE? THE IS IT TOO EARLY TO SPECULATE ON THAT, OR WHAT ARE WE? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? SO OFTEN TIMES WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRICES, YOU LOOK AT THE AM I NUMBERS MEDIAN INCOME NUMBERS FOREIGN AREA. OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO SET THAT IN AN AREA THAT FALLS WITHIN THE STATE'S DEFINITION OF WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR THAT AREAS, MEDIA AND INCOME. OKAY? SO IT WOULD BE AT THE TIME THAT THE APARTMENTS BECOME AVAILABLE, NOT KNOWING WHAT THE MEDIAN INCOME NUMBERS WILL BE NEXT YEAR. THE YEAR FOLLOWING. I CAN'T GIVE YOU A PRICE RANGE TODAY, BUT THAT THAT SYSTEM IS ESTABLISHED BY THE STATE. IT'S NOT OFF OF WHAT HOW DOES CONNECT FEEL IS A WORKFORCE HOUSING NUMBER. IT'S A SYSTEM THAT'S CLEARLY DELINEATED THROUGH THE PROGRAM PROCESS THAT YOU UNDERTAKE. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST TOUCH BACK ON YOUR POINT. THEY YOU MENTIONED ON CAN THE CITY AFFORD IT? AND I GUESS I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION OF CAN THE CITY NOT AFFORD TO DO IT? UM, THESE ARE NOT PROPERTIES THAT ARE EASY TO TURN AROUND. THESE ARE NOT PROPERTIES THAT DEVELOPMENT COMPANIES WANT TO SEIZE, FOR THE MOST PART IF THEY ARE NOT GENERATING TAX DOLLARS

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SO AGAIN. THAT'S WHAT MAYBE BUT THEY CAN BE A B F 23 MORE WEEKS TO REALLY GET INTO IT, AND MAYBE GET ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE ANSWERED. MR PRESIDENT. I THINK BRAD HAD A COMMENT THAT HE WANTED TO ADD. JUST PLEASE DO THAT. THANK YOU REGARDS TO THIS DEVELOPMENT PAYING FOR ITSELF OR NOT, I MEAN, NORMALLY, WHEN WE HAVE THESE CONSIDERATIONS, IT'S IN AN AREA THAT'S NEW TO THE CITY. IT'S AH, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHETHER WE'RE MARRIES THE LEAST, IS A CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW OR WHETHER WE AS WE EXTENDED DOWN COLUMBUS AVENUE INTO INNOVATION PARK AND SO FORTH. UH THESE SITES OBVIOUSLY SIT ON A MAJOR CORRIDOR WITHIN THE CITY. SO FROM A ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT, WE WILL BE PAYING THE SAME AMOUNT REGARDLESS FROM A STREETLIGHT STANDPOINT, WILL BE PAYING THE SAME AMOUNT REGARDLESS. UM, YOU KNOW, THE. THE DEPARTMENT. HOW MANY DEPARTMENTS ARE THERE? BOB AGAIN BETWEEN 2 5300 BASED ON THE LAYOUT AND THE BREAKDOWN OF THOSE APARTMENTS BETWEEN 12 BUT THREE BEDROOM I'LL BE MOSTLY STUDIO ONE BEDROOM AND SOME TWO BEDROOMS. WE WOULD NOT GO BEYOND TWO BEDROOMS, THE AMOUNT OF POPULATION WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPARED TO THE ALMOST 30,000 PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE IS EXTREMELY SMALL PERCENTAGE. SO EVEN LOOKING AT, SAY, FROM AN E. M S OR POLICE PERSPECTIVE, WE'D BE LOOKING AT PERCENTAGE WISE. VERY FEW RUNS. UM THERE WOULD BE AN INCREASE IN NOT SAYING THERE WOULDN'T BE.

BUT I'M JUST SAYING COMPARED TO THE CITY AS A WHOLE COMPARED TO THE SERVICES THAT WE CURRENTLY OFFER. IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS PROVIDED BOTH POLICE AND FIRE TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICEMEN THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON THE STREETS. WE COULD ATTEMPT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, BUT I WOULD I WOULD HESITATE TO EVEN CALL IT AN ESTIMATE. WHAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BRING IN. BUT GETTING BACK TO BOB'S POINT ABOUT THIS BEING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS LATER ABOUT WHAT THE EU DE WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES WOULD LOOK LIKE. WE HAVE REALLY NO WAY TO TRULY ESTIMATE WHAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BRING IN REVENUE. ONCE AGAIN, IT BE I

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OKAY AND THEN AS FAR AS, UM THE APARTMENTS, OF COURSE, SHE HAD ENTITIES THAT THEY BUILT INDOORS AND THEN THEY ARE BEING PUT IN PLACE SO THAT I THINK HAS SOME ADVANTAGE TO IT. UM, BECAUSE THE WE HAVE DATED APPOINTMENTS IN MARYSVILLE, WHETHER COMPLAINTS ABOUT MOLDS BECAUSE MAYBE THAT HAPPENED DURING CONSTRUCTION OR AFTER CONSTRUCTION. IF YOU WERE TO SAY THERE IS A LEVEL 12 AND THREE OF APPOINTMENTS IN WHAT CATEGORY WILL DAYS COME UP AT THESE WOULD DEFINITELY BE CONSIDERING THE TOP TIER WHEN LOOKING AT IT FROM THAT TYPE OF PERSPECTIVE. THESE ARE NOT WOOD FRAME. THESE ARE STEEL FRAMED, BUILT WITH A DOUBLE SIDED WALL. SO WHEN YOU EMERGED TWO OF THESE UNITS NEXT TO EACH OTHER IN MOST OF YOUR PRODUCT BUILD WHAT YOU HAVE IS THE STICK BUILT IN BETWEEN DRYWALL SLAPPED ON BOTH SIDES, AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S DELINEATING ONE UNIT FROM THE NEXT HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE IS DRYWALL, STEEL DRYWALL, THEN IT'S SETTING UP AGAINST IT WITH THAT AGAIN. SO WHAT YOU'RE BASICALLY CREATING IS AN AIR POCKET. THAT EXISTS WITHIN THESE UNITS THAT YOU DON'T FIND IN STANDARD DRYWALL THAT AIR POCKET STOPS SOUND MOVING FROM ONE UNIT TO THE NEXT. SO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IS THESE ARE A LOT QUIETER THAN WHAT NORMAL APARTMENT UNITS ARE. THE STEEL COMPONENT OF THEM MAKES THEM MUCH MORE STURDIER, LASTING

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YEAH, I GUESS SO. WHAT'S THE TIMING ON THE SCHOOL BOARD APPROVAL ON THIS? LET ME FIND OUT. OKAY, I HAVE YOU HEARD? IT WASN'T THE FIRST THURSDAY AND DECEMBER I THOUGHT WAS LIKE DECEMBER 10TH IS THAT DOUBLE CHECK SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET AN ANSWER. IF YOU OKAY, MOLLY, YOU'RE LOOKING THAT UP ANY QUESTIONS FROM CITIZENS ON THIS LEGISLATION? OKAY? QUESTION.

YEAH. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO. IF THERE IF THE SCHOOL BOARD'S VOTE IS THE FIRST THURSDAY AND DECEMBER THAN THERE'S REALLY NO REASON TO WAVE THE THIRD READING BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE OUR MEETING THE SAME WEEK, THE MONDAY BEFORE. YEAH, I WOULD JUST HAVE TO CHECK ON EXACTLY WHAT THEIR DATE IS NEEDS TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, ARE ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE PUBLIC LIBRARY. SHE SHE SHE APPARENTLY ATTENDS LOTS OF DIFFERENT MEETINGS. SO SHE HAPPENS TO KNOW THAT THE NEXT FULL OKAY. THE NEXT FOUR MEETING OF THE SCHOOL BOARD IS DECEMBER 14TH. THAT'S A TUESDAY. OKAY THURSDAY. WELL OH, YES, DEFINITELY AFTER OUR NEXT MEETING. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW MY T DAYS. THANK YOU. SO AT LEAST TODAY. NO NEED TO WAVE YEAH. I DON'T THINK WE'LL NEED. I DON'T THINK WE WOULD NEED TO CHANGE THE SCHEDULE ON THIS. OKAY, SO THIS WILL THEN. OKAY AND THERE WAS NO CITIZENS COMMENTS SO THIS WOULD THEN BE BACK FOR ACTUALLY 30 READING ON THE PART OF DECEMBER. OKAY ALREADY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ORDINANCE F SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING TO

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YEAH I GOT VERY GOOD AFTERWARDS. YEAH ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS HERE. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF REASONS FOR THAT ONE. OBVIOUSLY, WE GOT CLOSER TO THE END OF NOVEMBER.

UH UM. PURCHASE ORDER CUT OFF DATES DECEMBER 1ST STAFF HAVE BEEN, UH, FURIOUSLY ENTERING PURCHASE ORDERS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, SO I HAD A BETTER IDEA OF WHERE SOME OF THE LINE EYES WITH HIM UP. ALSO THE SECOND PAY IN NOVEMBER IS WHEN WE PAYOUT, LONGEVITY, AND, UM, WHAT'S THE OTHER THING? YOU PAY OUT? ALL SICK LEAVE PAY OUT. AND, OF COURSE, LONGEVITY

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DREAMS YES. SIX. YES SO WE ARE WAITING THE THIRD READING AND THEN WE NEED A MOTION TO BEST TO LEGISLATION. I'LL MOVE IT FASTER . OKAY, MR SEYMOUR. THANK YOU. LOCAL POLICE. MRS. GROW AMENDMENT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS SORRY. OKAY IN HERE, LADY. SO YOU WANT TO TELL US WHAT. THAT'S

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ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? YES, MRS COMMENT. MR PRESIDENT. I WOULD PREFER ON THIS LEGISLATION TO VOTE THE MOST FLEXIBLE PATH WE CAN TAKE. NOT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO USE THE WHOLE 30 YEARS.

BUT I THINK THE POINT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WAS VERY WELL TAKEN THAT THE FLEXIBILITY IS MUCH APPRECIATED. SO THANK YOU. OKAY? MR PRESIDENT. YES SIR, WOULD JUST ECHO THAT BECAUSE, UM WHAT.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE FACING? YOU KNOW, EIGHT YEARS FROM NOW. HMM I DON'T KNOW, RIGHT? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. WE KNOW THAT THAT TIFF REVENUE RIGHT NOW IS PROVIDING 42% OF THE DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE. FOR THE WASTEWATER PLANT. I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT SIX YEARS. EIGHT YEARS 10 YEARS. IF WE DID NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND IT. WE'D BE TYING ONE HAND BEHIND THE BACK OF BLURRY SITTING UP HERE, YOU KNOW, EIGHT YEARS FROM NOW. THIS GIVES THAT FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE THAT DECISION. BASED ON WHAT'S GOING ON, YOU KNOW? WE HAVE A ONE TIME OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND THIS RIGHT NOW. SO YOU MENTIONED THAT IT'S PAYING 42% OF THIS ISN'T ON THE RESIDENTIAL TIFF. THIS IS THE COMMONS CROSSING TIFF, SO THAT MONEY IS NOT GOING TOWARDS THE USED TOWARDS THE SUPER PLANT. PART OF IT CAN BE USED TOWARDS OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT. COLEMAN'S CROSSING REGION SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT THE NEED TO WIDEN COLEMAN'S CROSSING, MAYBE PUT SOME TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES NEAR THE WALMART, WHETHER THAT LIGHT OR WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE, UM INFRASTRUCTURE IN AND AROUND THE AREA. AH! THAT SUPPORTS, YOU KNOW, COULD BE DELAWARE AVENUE COULD BE INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY COULD BE COLEMAN'S CROSSING, UM, AND THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. UM ALL OF THAT IS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CAN BE PAID FOR BY THE TEFF. BUT NOT KNOWING. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FACING, YOU KNOW, NOT KNOWING WHAT THE FINANCES ARE GOING TO BE HERE IN EIGHT YEARS. UM PASSING. THIS ALLOWS US TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY. EIGHT YEARS FROM NOW, IF WE NEED TO, OR YEAH . 10 OR 15 YEARS FROM NOW, WHO KNOWS? WE MAY SAY YOU WANT WE DO

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UM, THAT WEREN'T GONNA HAVE SO YOU KNOW, I LIKE THAT. UM I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED IT. AND HOPEFULLY WE DON'T BUT I CAN'T PREDICT. EIGHT YEARS INTO THE FUTURE, 10 YEARS IN THE FUTURE. UM SO YOU KNOW, I'M IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THE OPTION AVAILABLE FOR WHEN THAT TIME COMES. P YES, SIR. I'M GONNA TAKE THE OPPOSITE STANCE. I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE USED TIFFS AND C R A S AND TAX ABATEMENTS AS INCENTIVES TO LURE DEVELOPERS HERE. UM THE IN THIS INSTANCE WE WOULD NOT BE LURING ANYBODY HERE. IT WOULD ONLY BE USING THE TIFF MONEY SO THAT THE CITY WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR ADDITIONAL ITEMS, SO I AM AGAINST. DOING THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT DOES GIVE FUTURE COUNCILS SOME OPTIONS. UM YEAH, I'M AGAIN . WE'RE NOT INCENTIVIZING.

ANYBODY TO COME HERE WITH THIS? WE DID 20 YEARS AGO. WE INCENTIVIZED COLEMAN'S CROSSING TO BE BUILT BY USING THE TIFF. UM I JUST I WOULD RATHER NOT. PUT IT OUT FOR ANOTHER 30 YEARS.

I MEAN, THAT'S 60 YEARS. OF TAX ABATEMENT SHOULD WRONG WORD MHM OF A TIFF. I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY LONG TIME SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANY COMMENTS. THE ONLY COMMENT IS THAT. I MEAN, IT'S ODD, BECAUSE I DO AGREE WITH MARK. I AGREE WITH YOU. J R TO AN EXTENT, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT INCENTIVIZING YOU KNOW IF INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT MAINTAINED , BUSINESS WON'T LOCATE IN THAT AREA. I WISH THAT COMMONS CROSSING WAS DESIGNED BETTER WITH A LIKE WHAT? IT WAS WHAT I THOUGHT WHEN I WAS A KID WAS GOING TO BE A BOULEVARD. WITH TWO LANES ON BOTH SIDES, AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE FOR DEVELOPMENTS TO BE PUT IN WITH A ALTERNATE ROAD THAT CATERS INTO THE MAIN ARTERY ROAD. SO NOT ALL THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES ARE LOCATED RIGHT ON THE MAIN AREA, NOT ON THE MAIN ROAD. WHERE NOW YOU HAVE ALL THIS TRAFFIC THAT'S CONSTANT, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE, AND NOW WE HAVE TWO SADLY FIX THE PROBLEMS OF THE PAST. BUT I HAVE TO AGREE WITH J. R. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF EXTENDING IT. UM YOU KNOW, SO I THINK IT GOES BACK TO THIS COUNTS ON FUTURE COUNCILS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO START DEMANDING BETTER JOBS AND WAGES THAT CAN PAY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE WITHOUT USING CONTINUE USING TIFF MONEY AND ENSURING THAT COMMONS CROSSING IS MORE THAN JUST BIG GIANT BIG BOX STORES THAT ARE NOT TRULY, UM BENEFITING THE OVERALL TAX BASE FOR THE CITY OF MAYOR AS WELL. SO THAT'S JUST WHERE I STAND ON THE ISSUE, OKAY? MR SEYMOUR. ANY COMMENTS ON SITE IS 2020. THAT WAS THE FIRST. UM RETAIL DEVELOPMENT IN MARYSVILLE. ON THE EAST SIDE. SO THERE WAS NO VISION HOW IT WAS GOING TO GROW.

MCDONALD'S POINT. I DON'T KNOW THAT. TIP WOULD WOULD EVEN WANT TO PAY FOR A TWO LANE HIGHWAY IN THERE IN ITS INFANCY, SO THAT'S THAT PIECE OF IT. THE TIFF WAS AND I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH J. R THAT IT'S TO INCENTIVIZE. IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T AUTHORIZE A TIFF TIFF IF WE DIDN'T BELIEVE IN THE PROJECT. SO I BELIEVE IT'S FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ANY DIFFICULT TO BEGIN WITH. IN THAT CASE, A TIFF WAS GRANTED BECAUSE IT WAS IT WAS.

IT WAS BELIEVED THAT COLEMAN'S CROSSING AND IT RETAIL DEVELOPMENT AREA LIKE THAT WAS FOR THE BETTER GOOD OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. SO IT WAS GRANTED AT THAT TIME. AND I THINK IT SERVED ITS PURPOSE. AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GRANT IT FURTHER TIME. SO THAT'S MY VIEW ON THAT. WELL, I YOU KNOW, I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT COLEMAN'S CROSSING AS THE RETAIL BUT THERE WAS NO ROAD CONNECTING THROUGH THERE UNLESS YOU WANTED TO GO ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS GO TO FIVE POINTS GO TO INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY ACROSS THE RAILROAD

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UH WHEN THAT WAS PUT IN, IT'S AN ALTERNATE ROUTE. TO MAKE THAT PATH THAT DOESN'T GO THROUGH FIVE POINTS. IT TOOK A LOT OF TRAFFIC OUT OF THAT INTERSECTION, WHICH I MEAN, I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT FIVE POINTS WOULD BE LIKE RIGHT NOW. IF THAT WASN'T DONE, UM, IT'S ENOUGH DISCUSSION POINT AS IT IS , RIGHT. SO UM, YOU KNOW, AND I ALSO AGREE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ABATEMENT AND A TIFF AND I KNOW PEOPLE SOMETIMES USE THE TERMS INTERCHANGEABLY, BUT I DON'T SEE IT TIPPED AS THE INCENTIVE. THE ABATEMENTS ARE THE INCENTIVE AND THE CITY USED THE TIP. AH, SO THAT THIS INFRASTRUCTURE PUBLIC BENEFIT COULD BE PROVIDED. YOU KNOW, THE ROADS, UM, THAT WEREN'T THERE. YOU KNOW THE I MEAN, IT'S ABOUT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT. UM SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW AGAIN. I'M NOT SINGING SIX YEARS FROM NOW. EIGHT YEARS FROM NOW THAT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF EXTENDING IT. BUT I DON'T KNOW. I CAN'T PREDICT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE. SO ALL I'M SAYING IS, LET'S KEEP THAT OPTION OPEN. IF WE NEED IT, WE CAN EXTEND IT. IF WE DON'T NEED IT. WE CAN CANCEL IT. THIS JUST OUR ONE CHANCE THAT WE'RE GONNA GET TO TAKE IT. UM ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY GIVEN TO US BY THE STATE RIGHT NOW. MHM. ALREADY THAT CAN I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT FOR A MOMENT. A UM WE HAVE HOW MANY MORE YEARS TO COLLECT ON THE TIV? UH THAT THAT IF SO, IT WAS LIKE 2036 2037. OKAY SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER 1415 YEARS. YEAH OKAY, SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. WE ARE TALKING A LONG TIME FROM NOW . UM DOES IT DOES IT DOES THIS STATE ALLOW YOU EXTENSIONS AT DIFFERENT TIMES FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, OR IS THIS A ONE AND DONE TEFF? SO I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY PRESENTED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS A DEFINITE END. MHM I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY I SUPPOSE THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THE STATE LEGISLATURE COULD DO THIS AGAIN. UM I'LL BE IF THERE IS NO GUARANTEE, SO OKAY. I MEAN, YES. THE STATE OFFERED IT ENDS. THEY OFFERED IT FOR A REASON THEY COULD DECIDE SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE TO OFFER IT AGAIN. YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE TO AGREE WITH MARK ON THIS POINT, THOUGH, YOU HAVE TO TREAT THIS AS IF THERE WAS ANY DESIRE TO EXTEND. YOU HAVE TO TREAT THIS AS A ONE TIME OFFER. OKAY, ALREADY, SO AND I CAN SEE THAT, BUT THEN, ON THE OTHER HAND, BE WHEN WE DID IT IF WE HAD A CERTAIN THOUGHT IN MIND , WE WERE GOING TO BUILD. YEAH, AND CURRENTLY MAYBE IN THE WHOLE AREA AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME PRETTY SIZABLE STORES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. UM THE HONDA DEALERSHIP WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE ON THE NORTH SIDE, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THIS THE HOSPITAL . THOSE ARE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER INCOMES WITH VERY MINIMAL EXPENSES AT THIS POINT, SO IT HAS ACHIEVED ITS GOAL CONTINUE TO ACHIEVE WHAT WE SET OUT TO DO . YEAH, AND I REALLY FEEL THAT WE SHOULD CUT THE TIE. WHEN IT'S OPEN. YOU SHOULD NOT DRAG IT OUT BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER PARTNERS. IT INTO COMMUNITY THAT ARE AFFECTED BY IT. IF YOU WERE TO MAKE A DECISION, AND I JUST I WOULDN'T FEEL RIGHT TO EXTENDED BEYOND. IT'S EXPECTED LIFE THAT'S MY FEELING AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING YOU SAID I WOULD ONLY STATE THE FACT THOUGH, AND I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM WHAT ENGINEERING COULD PROVIDE BECAUSE THEY COULD GIVE THE DETAILS. UM AND FIVE POINTS IS INCLUDED IN THIS IN TERMS OF IMPROVEMENTS, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT NOT ONLY DO WE INTEND TO TAKE ON IN THE NEAR TERM IN FIVE YEARS, HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE 15 BUT EVEN TIME BEYOND SO, JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT THERE WILL BE NO SHORTAGE OF PROJECTS, WHICH WILL REQUIRE FUNDING. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR

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ALREADY SO YES VOTE MEANS THEM. BASKET. NO, NO. NO BUT YEAH. OKAY, SO IF YOU HAVE EMOTION.

DON'T MOVE. OKAY, SO MONEY MAKES THE MOTION. WELCOME PLEASE, MR. ROUSH NO. MR REEMS? YES, MR SEYMOUR. MR SPROAT? YES MR BERGER, MISTER BURBEY. OH, YEP, FOR NOW. OKAY ALREADY MOTION FAILS. MOVING ON. HMM. NEXT. ONE ORDINANCE H THIRD READING TITLE, ONLY TO AMEND CHAPTER 110

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OKAY SO ALREADY ANY COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE OR. HMM THEN I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO

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OKAY, THEN WE'LL TAKE A MOTION TO BEST LEGISLATION AS AMENDED. AS AMENDED. THANK YOU. DONALD, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY. OKAY MOVED ALREADY. DONALD TAKE THE MOTION. LOCAL PLEASE. MR BERGER? YES MR BURBEY? YES YES, MR REEMS ? YES MR SEYMOUR. MRS GROWTH. I THINK WE CAME TO THE LAST ONE

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FROM YOU KNOW THE LARGE BUSINESSES IN COLUMBUS OR MAIL OR INTERNET OR WHATEVER YOU KNOW YOU DON'T GET THAT KIND OF SERVICE EXCEPT FROM THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH FACE TO FACE IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AND SO I'M HOPING THAT SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY IS JUST KIND OF LIKE ONE SMALL STEP. YOU KNOW , AND MOVING US FORWARD. EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY SEASON. ANY CHANGE. SO ABOUT FOUR WEEKS AGO, I HAD HERNIA SURGERY. AND I POSTED ON FACEBOOK. THE DAY AFTER MY HERNIA SURGERY. I LOOKED OUT MY WINDOW AND MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR WAS MOWING MY YARD AND I POSTED. YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHY I LIVE IN MARYSVILLE GOT ANOTHER Y I LIVE IN MARYSVILLE. HOW WAS IT? KROGER TWO FRIDAYS AGO. AND MY MONEY CLIP IS MAGNET. I'VE JUST BEEN TO THE BANK HAD A COUPLE OF $100 IN IT BEEN THROUGH KROGER USED MY DEBIT CARD WALKED OUT.

GRABBED MY CAR KEYS GOT MY VEHICLE WENT HOME UNPACKED. EVERYTHING WENT TO CHANGE CLOTHES, NO MONEY CLIP. DROVE BACK TO KROGER SAME PARKING SPOT. MONEY CLIP. NOT IN THE PARKING LOT. WELL, I GRABBED MY KEYS AS I WAS WALKING OUT OF KROGER, SO I WALKED INTO THE FRONT DOOR. NO MONEY CLIP. WENT TO THE CUSTOMER SERVICE DESK, SAID, CHRIS. I KNOW THIS IS STUPID, BUT I THINK MY MONEY CLIP FELL OUT SOMEWHERE IN THE STORE. WOULD SOMEBODY HAVE TURNED THAT IN? HE GOES, YES. AND THEY JUST GAVE IT TO ME. TURNED IN MY MONEY CLIP, NOT A PENNY MISSING. I GUARANTEE YOU THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN IN COLUMBUS. THAT'S WHY WE LIVE IN MARY'S, THOUGH. TO THE PERSON THAT DID IT BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, CHRIS DIDN'T KNOW HIS NAME. THANK YOU FOR BEING AN HONEST PERSON. WE LOVE THE FACT THAT SHE LIVE IN MARYSVILLE.

THANK YOU. GOOD STORY. HEY MR MONEY CLIP WON'T HOLD UP ANY NO DOLLAR WAS A DOLLAR. YEAH MR BURGER, YOU KNOW TO COUNCILMAN ROUSES POINT, YOU KNOW, IN TODAY'S SOCIETY, I'M I ALWAYS TRY TO BE AN OPTIMISTIC AND I ALWAYS TRY TO HAVE THE LEANING TOWARDS NO MATTER THERE'S ALWAYS GOOD PEOPLE IN EVERY CROWD. SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK FOR HIM A LITTLE HARDER THAN SOME CROWDS AND OTHERS. BUT THERE'S ALWAYS A LIGHT IN EVERY ROOM. YOU JUST HAVE TO FIND THAT SOURCE OF THAT LIGHT. UM I JUST WANTED TO SAY TO EVERYBODY THAT CAME IN AND SPOKE TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE ARE NOT NO. UM I WOULD SAY I AM NOT NUMB TO THE PROBLEMS THAT I'M SURE IS ON THEIR MINDS WHEN IT COMES TO LIGHTING, NOISE, TRAFFIC, WATER.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE NOT ISSUES THAT AREN'T UM, ISSUES THAT WE HAVE NOT HEARD BEFORE. I WILL STATE THOUGH, FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT I THINK IT'S SO HEAVILY IMPORTANT THAT MARYSVILLE GAINS THE MAJORITY OF THIS AS JOBS TO ALL UPSET THE COST OF RESIDENTS IN THE FUTURE, AND IT GOES TO YOUR POINT WHEN IT COMES TO SERVICES, YOU KNOW, UM, THE RESIDENTS OF MARYSVILLE ARE MOVING HERE TO ESCAPE THE RISING COST OF COLUMBUS AND ITS SUBURBS. AND IF WE BELIEVE THAT WE WANT TO KEEP THAT LEVEL AH OF MONEY COMING IN TO PAY FOR THE SERVICES THAT WE GIVE. THEN WE HAVE TO START INVESTING IN WELL, GOOD PAYING JOBS. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT IN THE FUTURE AS A COUNCIL, WE HAVE TO STRATEGICALLY START. WHEN I SAY HIGH PAYING JOBS. I MEAN, I WANT

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THANK YOU. COME ON, SINCE IT'S SO LATE, I'LL JUST MAKE IT A LITTLE LATER RIGHT OFF THE GO.

PERIODS COLORS TODAY WERE BORDERLINE OFFENDING. YEAH BORDERLINE. YEAH. UM. COUNCIL MEMBERS I COUNCIL MEMBERS ELECT CONGRATULATIONS. I WASN'T ABLE TO REACH OUT TO ALL OF YOU, BUT I HAVE WRITTEN DID REACH OUT TO ZACH AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A CONVERSATION IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. GREAT, SO YOU GOT A GOOD DOSE OF IT TONIGHT? UH MY CONDOLENCES GO OUT TO THE LEE FAMILY SAT ON COMMITTEES WITH GARY BEFORE AND HE HAS BEEN A GREAT LEADER IN THE GOVERNMENT TO THIS GOVERNMENT AND IN THE FARM COMMUNITY AS WELL. SO UM, HE WAS , HE WAS A GREAT MAN, AND IT'S A BIG LOSS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. UM I DO HAVE A LITTLE EDITORIAL HERE.

SOMEWHAT WITH REGARD TO PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY I WAS ON PLANNING COMMISSION. AH WHEN THE FIRST LEG OF PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY, WHICH BEGAN AT THE UNION COUNTY BUILDING, FIRST LEG OF IT STARTED AND IT WAS JUST A IT WAS JUST CONCEIVED AT THAT TIME, NOT REALLY KNOWING ITS ULTIMATE BUT. PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY THAT STARTS AT LONDON AVENUE AND CONTINUES TO COLUMBUS AVENUE IS NOW OPEN AND IT'S CREATED A GREAT ALTERNATIVE FOR THE SOUTH. AND SOME WEST SIDE RESIDENTS TO GET TO THE EAST SIDE WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE UPTOWN. I WANT OUR CITIZENS TO KNOW THAT THIS NEW STREET, A PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE. WAS BUILT. AND IN THE CITY DOESN'T BUILD STREETS. DEVELOPERS BUILD THE STREETS OF COST TOO MUCH. THERE IS NO RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT ON THE INVESTMENT THERE. BUT I WANT OUR CITIZENS TO KNOW THAT OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS BY 550 BY FIVE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS IS WHAT IT TOOK TO GET THAT ROUTE THROUGH AND IT WAS THAT THE DEVELOPERS COSTS AS WELL AS COSTS AS A RESULT OF THEIR PROJECTS THAT THAT FUNDED IT. SO THE CITY DID NOT BUILD THAT TOO MANY RESIDENTS ONLY ASSOCIATE NEGATIVISM WITH DEVELOPMENT. WELL BEING COMPLETELY UNAWARE OF THE BENEFITS THAT GOOD DEVELOPMENTS BRING TO OUR CITY. OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS CITY'S ADMINISTRATION PLANNING COMMISSION IN CITY COUNCIL HOLDS DEVELOPERS TO THE FIRE TO NOT ONLY BUILD STREETS LIKE COOKS CROSSING AND PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY AND IMPROVE EXISTING PROBLEMS ALONG THE WAY, BUT THEY ALSO PAY HEAVILY INTO TAPPIN FEES LARGELY IN THE PARKS. FUN.

AND STREET STREET PROGRAM AS WELL AS OTHER WAYS. ALL DEVELOPMENTS CAN ADD COMPLICATIONS IN SOME AREAS ARE CITIZENS NEED TO BE MORE AWARE OF THE BENEFITS THAT GOOD DEVELOPMENTS BRING TO OUR COMMUNITY? SO I WAS. IT HASN'T BEEN SAID IN THAT WAY BEFORE, BUT I THINK IT'S BEEN LACKING. SO WITH THAT SAID, I TRUST EVERYONE HAD A GREAT THANKSGIVING. AND A FUN TIME LEADING UP TO THE BUCKEYE GAME. YEAH OKAY, NOW ON TO THE JOYFUL SEASON. KICK IT OFF AND SPEND SPEND SPEND LOCAL. THANKS ALAN. I APPRECIATE IT THIS MORNING WHEN WE HAD EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WHEN WE GO UP WITH THE BUDGET THAT I TOLD THEM THAT I'D HAVE THEM OUT BY NINE, SO I ONLY MISSED IT BY AN HOUR, BUT YEAH, BUT WE HAD IT WASN'T EXECUTIVE SESSION. SORRY WITHOUT STAFF MEETING STAFF EXECUTIVE STAFF MEETING. OKAY, THAT THAT'S WHAT IT IS. I'M SORRY. EXACTLY. IT'S SO LATE. IT'S SO LATE. SO I CAN DO THAT. BUT ANYWAY, I WANT TO

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