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HMM. GOOD EVENING. IT IS WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 20TH 2023 AT SIX PM LIKE TO OPEN THIS SPECIAL
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MEETING IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, OPEN IT NOW. JEFF, IF YOU COULD DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. HERE. MR ENGEL. PRESIDENT MR FISHER. HE'S EXCUSED, MR NICKERSON. MR PURVIS. THROUGH OUR MINUTES. MR STILYAN PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. I WAS NOT AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
CURRENTLY THE NOVEMBER 7TH 2023 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES WAS NOT APPROVED AT THAT TIME, SO WE NEED TO APPROVE THAT HERE. HOW'S EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MEETING MINUTES? ANYTHING TO ADD, UM OR CHANGE SOON HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. ALL RIGHT, UM, BROKE OVER JUST IT'S NOT EVERYONE'S FAVORITE, DISAPPROVING EYE. THANK YOU. RIGHT AT THIS TIME, WE WILL DO[SWEARING OF CITIZENS & APPLICANTS]
THE SWEARING IN OF CITIZENS AND APPLICANTS. SO IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING, AND YOU BELIEVE THERE IS A CHANCE YOU MAY SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC, PLEASE STAND UP. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. AND I WILL, UH SIGNAL. I WILL AFTER I HAVE THE STATEMENT. YOU DECLARED THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH. THE WHOLE TRUTH UNDER THE PAINS AND PENALTIES OF PERJURY AND FALSIFICATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THIS POINT IN THE MEETING, UH, WE'RE OPENING UP TO CITIZEN COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS, SO WE HAVE THE ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA. BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANOTHER TOPIC YOU HAVE UP TO FIVE MINUTES. SEEN NONE. MOVE ON TO THE REPORT OF[REPORT OF ADMINISTRATION]
THE ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING. YEAH THANK YOU. PLANNING COMMISSION. UM, JUST WANTED TO MAKE A BRIEF STATEMENT ABOUT THE AGENDA ITEM FOR TONIGHT. I KNOW. DURING THE MARYSVILLE EAST ANNEXATION, ONE PORTION WE TALKED ABOUT THE CITY'S INVESTMENT WITH FUTURE PLANNING WITH OUR UTILITY NETWORK IN THE MARYSVILLE EAST AREA. WE DO HAVE A PUMP STATION AND GRAVITY SEWER PROJECT THAT CAUSED $15 MILLION. THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION. RIGHT NOW WE'VE INVESTED IN UPSIZING AND MAKING SURE WHY THEIR LINES ARE SIZED APPROPRIATELY TO HANDLE. DEVELOPMENT TOWARDS THE EAST. SO WE HAVE PLANNED AND PREPARED FOR THIS AND WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE THIS ON. UM STAFF HAS ALSO REVIEWED THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S OUR OPINION THAT MEETS THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL TONIGHT. SO THAT'S ALL[1. To hear an application for a Planned Unit Development (PUD) Development Plan application for a development known as Marysville East Section 2 located at Parcels with ID numbers of (2800170430000, 2800210050000, 1100120010000).]
WE HAVE AT THIS TIME. RIGHT SO THE NEW BUSINESS IT IS TO HEAR AN APPLICATION FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION FOR A DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS MARYSVILLE EAST SECTION TWO LOCATED PARCELS WITH ID NUMBERS TO 80017043. 2800 TO 1005. AND 110012001. THE APPLICANT HERE TO PRESENT THANK YOU. IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, OF COURSE.YOURS, EVERYONE HEAR ME. OKAY I THINK YOU CAN. MY NAME IS AARON UNDERHILL. I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH UNDERHILL AND HODGE AT 8000 WALTON PARKWAY IN NEW ALBANY. AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY WHO IS THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE, AND IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE BEFORE YOU. I'M GOING TO REITERATE. A FEW THINGS TONIGHT THAT WERE SAID LAST TIME BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE HAD A MEMBER, TOO, THAT WE'RE NOT IN ATTENDANCE AND THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO PROVIDE FIRST SOME CONTEXT HERE. UM SO IF YOU'LL RECALL YOU PREVIOUSLY SAW A ZONING RELATED TO WHAT WE CALL THE ANNEXATION NUMBER ONE SCENE ON THE MAP HERE. THAT THAT IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, A PORTION OF WHICH WAS ALSO RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY YOU AND IS CURRENTLY PENDING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL. WE HAD A MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT FOR THE SECOND READING, BUT IN THAT INSTANCE YOU APPROVED USES AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT ARE BASICALLY IN ALL RESPECTS WITH A COUPLE OF NUANCES, THE SAME AS WHAT YOU RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THE LAST TIME. NOW YOU MAY ASK, WHY ARE WE BACK WITH A SEPARATE APPLICATION? THE REASON IS THE IN EXCITATION LAW IN OHIO IS SUCH THAT THE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE THAT CAN BE INCLUDED IN A SINGLE ANNEXATION PETITION USING THE PROCEDURE THAT WE'RE TO USE HERE IS 500 ACRES, AND SO THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO WOULD
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EXCEED THAT AMOUNT, AND THEREFORE WE HAD TO BRING THESE THROUGH IN SEPARATE APPLICATIONS. THIS IS THE SITE IN CONTEXT, OBVIOUSLY, TO THE EAST OF US 33 SOUTH OF WATKINS ROAD, AND OF COURSE, ANOTHER NEIGHBORS ARE HERE FROM THE BUXTON MEADOWS SUBDIVISION THERE JUST TO OUR EAST. UM AS I MENTIONED, YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT SOUTH OF WATKINS IS WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING AS AN EXTENSION OF SUB AREA B FROM THE FIRST PUDU APPLICATION THAT YOU SAW, AND HERE AGAIN BASICALLY SEEM DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN TERMS OF USE IS WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGES IN SOME OF THE USES ITS GOING TO CONDITIONAL THAT I THINK THIS BODY RECOMMENDED. AND THEN SOME ENHANCED SETBACKS AS THE BIG CHANGE FROM BUXTON MEADOWS, WHICH WILL GET TO MOMENTARILY. UH HERE AGAIN, ANOTHER LOOK AT IT AT A CLOSER VIEW. WE BASICALLY USE YOUR MANUFACTURING AND INNOVATION, DISTRICT STANDARDS AND LIGHT MANUFACTURING DISTRICT STANDARDS AS A BASELINE AS WELL AS THE USES. WE HAVE ALSO BECAUSE IT IS NOT FOUND ANYWHERE IN YOUR CODE. AT LEAST WE COULD FIND ADDED DATA CENTERS AS A PERMITTED USE, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES A P U. T SUCH A GOOD TOOL BECAUSE YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY CHANGES, AND, UH, THESE THINGS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN CONTEMPLATED WHEN THE CODE WAS ADAPTED, AND SO HERE WE ARE, AND SO WE'VE USED THOSE ITEMS AS THE BASELINE. AH AND SO YOU SHOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH MOST OF MOST OF THOSE USES AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FROM YOUR CODE. UM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY. UM YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST FORGET THAT DICK ROGAN CAMP HERE WITH ME WHO IS WITH THE COMPANY AND WE WERE DISCUSSING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE COMPANY HAS DONE IN THE LAST REALLY 2025 YEARS IS WHEN THEY STARTED REALLY GETTING INTO THE NON RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS AND DEVELOPED SOME 8000 ACRES TO DATE AND SO UM YOUR RECOGNIZE MANY OF THE NAMES THAT HAVE BEEN ATTRACTED TO THEIR PROPERTIES. UM GOOGLE FACEBOOK? UM INTEL, OF COURSE. BIO PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES LIKE M JOHN. AND SO THESE ARE TOP NOTCH COMPANIES THAT THAT THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY WORKS WITH AND YOU KNOW WITH THEM, IT'S ABOUT MAKING A LONG TERM INVESTMENT THAT PUT THEMSELVES AND WITH WITH THE END USERS IN THE COMMUNITY WITH SUSTAINABLE QUALITY COMPANIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE HERE FOR GENERATIONS. IS TO COME. AND SO THAT'S REALLY THE MODEL AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE. I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT SAID ABOUT DEMAND FOR JOBS IN THE REGION. ALSO DEMAND FOR HOUSING. BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE FORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCE IN CENTRAL OHIO OF BEING I THINK THE 14TH LARGEST METROPOLITAN AREA IN THE COUNTRY SOME, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL SURPRISES ME WHEN I GO ON VACATION, I SAY I'M FROM COLUMBUS HAD TO PUT OHIO ON THE END OF IT, BUT MAYBE WE'LL CHANGE THAT SOMEDAY. BUT ANYWAY, UM YOU KNOW, WE SEE A REAL MARKET HERE WITH THE SITE. IN ADDITION TO ANNEX AREA ANNEXATION AREA NUMBER ONE THAT IS VERY WELL LOCATED WITH THE PROXIMITY TO HIGHWAY WITH, YOU KNOW, A GREAT COMMUNITY HERE TO BEGIN WITH, AND WE HOPE TO REALLY BE ADDITIVE AND REALLY PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR YEARS TO COME FOR NOT ONLY THIS GENERATION BUT FUTURE GENERATIONS. TO WORK HERE IN MARYSVILLE AND PROSPER. SO I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SETBACKS AND I GUESS THIS MICROPHONE ALLOWS ME TO MOVE AROUND. BUT UM, BASICALLY WITH WITH AN EXCEPTION THERE AT THE TOP. LUCKILY, I'M TALL. THAT'S THAT'S NOT EVEN PART OF THIS APPLICATION, BUT THERE ARE SOME SMALLER SETBACKS OR SHORTER SET BACKS UP THERE, BUT WE'RE WELL EXCEEDING THE UNDERLYING CODE IN, UM IN MOST RESPECTS ON THE PERIMETER BOUNDARIES. THE BASELINE IS A 50 FT PAVEMENT SETBACK AND A 100 FT BUILDING SETBACK ON MOST PERIMETERS, BUT WE DID IN FACT, UM ALONG BUXTON MEADOWS PROVIDE A LOT MORE DETAIL AND A LOT MORE SETBACK THERE, SO AH, WE HAVE AS A BASELINE HERE ARE 100 FT. GREEN SPACE PAVEMENT SETBACK ON OUR SHARED EASTERN BOUNDARY LINE WITH THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF BUXTON'S 150 FT BUILDING SETBACK. WE DO HAVE AND WE'VE PROVIDED IN OUR MATERIALS. ALSO A LANDSCAPING PLAN WITH A RELATIVELY LARGE AMOUNT. I THINK IT'S 10 FT. TALL WITH PLANTINGS ON TOP OF IT THROUGHOUT THAT AREA, UM ONE THING WE'RE COMMITTING TO, AS A PART OF THIS APPLICATION IS BRINGING A ROAD THROUGH TO SORT OF BYPASS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON WATKINS AND CONNECT WATKINS ON THE EAST. TO[00:10:05]
WATKINS ON THE NORTH. UM THERE'S A SCENARIO WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GOING TO BE LOCATED, AND THAT WILL BE PART OF A PROCESS WITH THIS COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL THROUGH A PLANNING PROCESS THAT WILL OBVIOUSLY BRING WITH IT. PUBLIC MEETINGS. UM SO WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GOING TO GO. YET. ONE SCENARIO MAY HAVE IT SORT OF HUGGING THAT PROPERTY LINE AND JUST POINTED OUT A LITTLE CLOSER. AND IN THAT CASE, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT BUFFERING PLAN, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW THE ROAD TO BE WITHIN 50 FT. OF THAT THAT LINE WITH THE BUFFER STILL BETWEEN THE ROAD RIGHT AWAY AND THAT LINE BUT THEN, ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE WOULD HAVE AN ENHANCED SETBACK OF 150 FT. FROM THAT RIGHT AWAY, SO IN THAT SCENARIO, WE WOULD HAVE THE BUILDING LOCATED ABOUT 232 250 FT FROM THAT BOUNDARY LINE. DEPENDING ON HOW BIG THE ROAD RIGHT OF WAY IS SO UM, NOW A BIG CHANGE SINCE THE LAST TIME WAS DOWN HERE WE HAD HAD THE 100 , THE 150 FT BUILDING AND PAVEMENT SETBACK. ONE OF THE BOWL OF THIS UP, THOUGH, BUT AFTER MEETING WITH THE BUXTON NEIGHBORS, WE BECAME AWARE OF A DRAINAGE EASEMENT, WHICH IS HERE IN BLUE, WHICH IS ROUGHLY 60 FT.IN WIDTH YOU'LL SEE HERE IT GETS TO BE A LITTLE WIDER. AND SO, UM , WE'RE NOT GOING TO. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DISTURB THAT. OR ASK THAT IT BE CHANGED. AND SO THAT'S 60 FT. PLUS DRAINAGE EASEMENT WILL REMAIN IN PLACE AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WILL PROVIDE THE GREEN SPACE BUFFER OF 100 FT. FROM THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THAT, AND 150 FT FOR THE BUILDING SET BACK FROM THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT. AND SO OBVIOUSLY THAT PROVIDES GUESTS 210 FT OR SO BUILDING SET BACK FROM THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY LINE. LET'S ALL SAID AND DONE. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE BUFFER AND HOW IT WOULD LOOK IF THAT KNEW WHAT WE'RE CALLING RHODEY, WHICH IS THE NEW CONNECTOR TO BYPASS BUXTON, THIS IS THIS IS HOW THAT WOULD LOOK. THIS IS THE SHARED BOUNDARY LINE OVER HERE. THIS WOULD BE A THEORETICAL BUILDING OVER HERE. LITTLE DIFFICULT TO READ UP TOP. BUT AS I MENTIONED 232 150 FT BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE PROPERTY LINE IN THAT INSTANCE AND THIS IS THE SITUATION WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THAT ROAD THERE. THIS IS MORE OF A DRIVE, I'LL BUT YOUR ORIENTED THE SAME WAY WE SHOW YOU THE MOUNTING AND TREE BUFFERING HERE, AND THAT'S 150. FT SO, UM, WE'VE TRIED TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF THE FACT OF WE HAVE UNDER YOUR CODE. WHAT IS CONSIDERED A DIFFERING USE OF FORGET EXACTLY THE TERM BUT TO PROVIDE A BUFFER THAT IS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT EVEN CODE WOULD REQUIRE. AND CERTAINLY THE SETBACKS. UM YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A TRACK RECORD IN THE OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE WE'VE WORKED OF WORKING WITH NEIGHBORS AND HAVE HAD THIS SITUATION ARISE ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS WHERE WE'RE NEXT TO EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND, UM WE CONTINUE TO HAVE A, UH YOU KNOW, AN OPEN LINE OF COMMUNICATION WITH ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO CONTINUE TO TALK TO US. THIS WILL BE THE STEP IS THE FIRST STEP IN A LONGER PROCESS AS YOU WILL NOW, UH, WE GET THROUGH THIS STAGE, WE GO TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THREE READINGS. THERE ARE SECONDARY REVIEW OF PROJECTS INDIVIDUALLY WITH YOUR DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. AND OF COURSE, WE'LL HAVE A PLANNING PROCESS THAT GOES THROUGH THE SAME GENERAL PROCESSES OF THE ZONING. SO THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY. WELL I GUESS THIS IS A SECOND OR THIRD OF THE NUMBER OF APPEARANCES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BEFORE YOU WILL BE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR CONTINUED DIALOGUE WITH THE NEIGHBORS THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. BE HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS OR IF YOU WANT TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GENERALLY GO ABOUT IT, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS NOW OR LATER. YEAH GENERALLY, THE BOARD HAS QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. AND THEN, UH, ONCE WE GET THROUGH WITH THAT THAT INCIDENT COMMENTS SO, UM, I WILL OPEN UP TO THE BOARD. ARE THERE QUESTIONS TO BE CLEAR. WE DO NOT KNOW WHERE THE EXTRA ROAD IS. THAT'S CORRECT. AND I THINK WE'D BE WORKING WITH YOUR ENGINEER AND PLANNERS ON THE PROPER ALIGNMENT FOR THAT, AND THERE MAY BE BROADER GOALS TO WHERE THAT'S LOCATED, AND WITH THE RIGHT AWAY WITH IS SO WE DO NOT KNOW AT THIS TIME. WE JUST KNOW WE MADE THE COMMITMENT TO HAVE ONE COMING BACK. DO YOU? IF WHEN, IF AND WHEN THE ROAD IS DEDICATED TO THAT? ABSOLUTELY, UH, WELL, WE WILL BE VERY MUCH INVOLVED WITH THE LOCATION OF THAT ROAD. NOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, SO AH! YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE SETBACKS WERE BEYOND THE SOME OF THE ZONING SPECIFIED SETBACKS IN EXISTING
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ZONING THAT WE KIND OF BORROWED CRITERIA FROM SO IT WAS 1121 13 AND 1121 14. SO WE BORROWED.SOME LANGUAGE FROM THOSE THEY MOST CLOSELY REPRESENTED. WHAT THIS PROJECT IS, AND I HAD TALKED TO STAFF JEFF PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND ASKING WHAT YOU KNOW WAS THE EXISTING SETBACKS.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY JUST MY UNDERSTANDING. SO FOR MANUFACTURING OFFICE WAREHOUSE.
WE'RE AT ABOUT 50 FT. IN OUR EXISTING CODE, IS THAT CORRECT INTERPRETATION OF WHAT YOU WOULD GIVEN UH, YEAH. SO IT'S 50 FT FROM THE FRONT SETBACK, UM FOR MANUFACTURING AND SIDE SETBACK.
IT'S 30 FT MINIMUM AND THEN 40 FT OF HIS ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL USE, THEN THE REAR SETBACK IS 40 FT MINIMUM AND 75 FT MINIMUM FROM THE RESIDENTIAL USE WITH HER CURRENT CODE. SO THEN, IF I WERE TO AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT NUMBERS DEPENDING ON WHERE THE ROAD IS OR WHATNOT. SO IF I WERE TO JUST DO AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON OF THESE EXISTING DISTRICTS. 40 FT FROM RESIDENTIAL IS THE ONE. HOW DOES HOW WOULD WHAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM HERE THAT I'M COMPARING TO I WAS ALWAYS WORKING FROM 40 FT FOR THE NEXT TWO RESIDENTIAL AND THEN THAT'S TO BUILDING LIKE , YES. CURRENT CODE WOULD BE 40 FT TO BUILDING OKAY. THERE PROPOSED AS 50 FT AS THE MINIMUM TO PAVEMENT AND PARKING, AND THEN 100 FT TO BUILDING THEIR MINIMUM EASEMENTS RADAR AGAINST IT. THAT'S RIGHT. SO TOO WERE THE EASEMENT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY LINE OF BUXTON . IT'S A 60 FT WIDE EASEMENT MORE OR LESS AND THEN, PLUS 100 FT. FROM THAT FOR PAVEMENT AND PLUS ANOTHER 50 FT. BEYOND THAT FOR BUILDING SO 150 FROM THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT AREA FOR BUILDING SO, ESSENTIALLY, IT'S 210. ABSOLUTELY. I'M SORRY. SO THERE WE GO. AND I KNOW THAT THESE THESE DISTANCES ARE NOT MARKED THEIR SET OUT IN THE TEXT , BUT YOU'LL SEE 60 FT. HERE FOR THE BLUE. THE GREEN REPRESENTS ANOTHER 100, THEN ANOTHER 50.
BEYOND THAT FOR THE BUILDING AND THE PURPLE. THEY'RE PINK OR WHATEVER IT IS. IN THEORY OR EXISTING CODE. BASICALLY AS 1/4 OF WHAT THIS IS WITH THAT ISH FOURTH FISH, DEPENDING ON. I JUST WANT TO PUT SOME CLARIFY WHAT YOU'RE COMMENTING ABOUT THE SURE AND THEN WELL, WELL, IT DOESN'T SHOW UP HERE. WE DID HAVE THOSE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS HERE. BUT UM, YOU KNOW, IN NO EVENT WHERE WE HAVE A PARKING AREA THAT THE ONLY THE ONLY THING THEY GIVE YOU IN INTO THE 50 FT WOULD BE A ROAD AND THAT WILL BE A JOINT DECISION BETWEEN US AND THE CITY WHEN THE TIME COMES. PARKING AND OTHER PRIVATE PAVEMENT WOULD BE AT LEAST 100 FT. AWAY UNDER ANY SERVICE CIRCUMSTANCE. AND THEN YOU SAID 10, FT BUFFER OR 10 FT MOUNDS. I HAD HEARD 10 FT. I THINK IN THE COUNCIL MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT. I THINK IT'S SIX. CORRECT I'M SORRY. 10. FT TREES. I'M SORRY.
I MISSPOKE AT 6 FT. AND THEN IT HAS TO BE AT LEAST IS AT THE TIME OF PLANNING, PLANTING 10 FT. WELL, IT WILL BE EFFECTIVELY PERCENT. OKAY SO THAT MEANS THAT 10 FT PLANTING. I DON'T SO BETWEEN THE MOUND ITSELF, WHICH WOULD BE 6 FT, AND THEN THE PLANTINGS ON TOP, UM THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE A MINIMUM OF 10 FT. TALL AND THEN AN OPACITY MINIMUM WITHIN 54 OR FIVE YEARS, FIVE YEARS AFTER PLANTING OF 80% SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING THROUGH, UH, LOOKING THROUGH ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER OF THOSE TREES TO A LEVEL OF 10 FT, ONLY BE ABLE TO SEE 20. VISIBILITY THROUGH THOSE FEET TO THE TOP OF THE PLANE OR INFLICT 6. TO THE TO THE TOP OF THE PLANTS NOW EFFECTIVELY WHEN YOU'RE I MEAN EVERGREENS, I THINK ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE AT LEAST 4 FT. TO START WITH, IF NOT SIX. AND SO THERE WILL BE, UH, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE WHAT WE GO THROUGH WITH THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, OR WHAT ARE THE PLANTINGS THAT SHOULD BE EMPLOYEES GIVEN FALL FOLIAGE AND ALL OF THAT, SO I WOULD THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PRETTY CLOSE TO 10 FT. TO BEGIN WITH, ANYWAY. JUST ANOTHER QUESTION. DO WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR MOUNTING, UM, ON INDUSTRIAL BORDERING RESIDENTIAL? SORRY I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT HERE. WE HAVE A SCREENING REQUIREMENT THAT CAN INCLUDE MOUNDING PLANTING AND FENCING, UM, FOR SCREENING PURPOSES, IS IT REQUIRED OR IS IT MORE SO? UM, IT'S KIND OF UP TO THE APPLICANT , AND SOMETIMES IT DEPENDS ON LIKE THE PARCEL AND THE LAYOUT OF THE LAND IF IT'S FEASIBLE OR OR NOT TO INCLUDE THAT. I REMEMBER WE WERE REVIEWING LIKE WE WERE MILLS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PROJECT, BUT THERE
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WASN'T ANY MOUNTING. IT WAS EXISTING KIND OF ROUGH TREES THAT WERE THERE. SO IN THE MOUNTING, I THINK WAS MAYBE A QUESTION THAT I WAS JUST CURIOUS. HMM OKAY. YEAH THANKS.I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. ONE THING WHEN I WAS LOOKING THROUGH IT. I JUST DIDN'T RECALL THIS FROM EARLIER. UM, THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. THE APPROVED ACCESSORY STRUCTURES MIGHT BE TRUE FOCUSED BY THE PROOF ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, ELECTRICAL SUBSTATIONS, WATER MATERIAL STORAGE TANKS, GENERATOR YARDS. CHILLERS UM ARE THOSE WITHIN BUILDINGS OR ARE THEY THE STRUCTURES? IS THERE ANY SCREENING? YEAH THERE WOULD BE SCREENING. UM I THINK THESE ARE INTENDED TO BE EXTERIOR ITEMS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T RECALL GIVEN THE VOLUME OF THE TYPICALLY WE WOULD SCREEN THOSE ITEMS TO THE BEST WE COULD FROM OFFSITE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DICK ROGAN CAMP ON THE DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE FOR THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY ON THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. YES THESE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE EXTERIOR TO A BUILDING AND TYPICALLY, WE WOULD CERTAINLY SCREEN THOSE FROM VIEW OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. UM, OR FROM ADJOINING, UH, DIFFERENT CLASSIFIED PROPERTIES. I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION ONE QUICK THING ON THE MOUND QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER HUNTER. UM WE GOT WE FINALLY GOT IT STRAIGHT. IT'S 60 WITH TREES THAT WILL CUMULATIVELY BE 10 FT. AT THE TIME OF INSTALLATION, AND WHEN, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT A MOUND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO DO JUST A MOUND WITH A TREE ON TOP. IT'S THAT IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE MOUNTING EXHIBITS WE HAVE THERE ARE TREES GOING UP THE SLOPES, AND SO IT'S NOT SIMPLY A LINE OF TREES, BUT RATHER A MIXTURE OF DIFFERENT TYPES. BEIT EVERGREEN DECIDUOUS THAT THAT TOGETHER CREATE THAT BARRIER FOR BOTH VISUAL IN IN NOISE BECAUSE THE TREES DISPERSE THAT NOISE.
QUESTIONS FROM THE. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT WE WILL SHORTLY. OPEN THIS UP TO CITIZEN COMMENTS . UM I SAW A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WALK IN AFTER THE SWEARING AND SO IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO HAS WALKED IN, DID NOT GET SQUARED IN, AND YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK THIS EVENING IF YOU CAN STAND UP, SO THAT'S WHERE YOU OR IF YOU'RE JUST HERE TO LISTEN, THAT'S FALSIFIED. OKAY SO I SEE A LOT OF FAMILIAR FACES SO ALLOW. YOU ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THIS, BUT JUST A REMINDER.
YOU HAVE UP TO FIVE MINUTES. UM, IT IS NOT A BACK AND FORTH WITH THE APPLICANT. BUT IF YOU DO HAVE QUESTIONS THAT COME UP DURING YOUR YOUR TALK, WE WILL RECORD THEM THE BEST WE CAN. WE WILL APPEAR AND PARTS ALWAYS USUALLY GOOD AT RECORDING THE QUESTIONS AS WELL. AND THEN ONCE ALL CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE FINISHED, UH THE APPLICANT WILL COME BACK UP AND WE WILL TRY TO ADDRESS UM, ALL THE QUESTIONS BEST THAT THAT WE CAN ALRIGHT, SO AT THIS POINT ANY CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE AGENDA ITEM PLEASE COME COME TO THE PODIUM AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. SURE. HELLO. I'M GREG RAY EDWARDS WON 4 TO 8 TO OXFORD DRIVE BUCKS THE MEADOWS. YEAH IT'LL START NOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW FAMILIAR YOU ARE WITH DATA CENTERS. OKAY BUT DATA SUITORS TAKE UP A LOT OF ELECTRICITY, LOTS OF ELECTRICITY. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SUBSTATIONS.
SUBSTATIONS WILL GET FED WITH OVERHEAD LINES. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE UNDERGROUND. SO THERE'S UGLY RIGHT THERE. SECOND OF ALL, THEY. IF YOU'VE BEEN AROUND THE SUBSTATION OR THE DATA CENTERS AROUND NEW ALBANY. AMAZON FACEBOOK AND I HAVE WORKED ON THESE PERSONALLY, I'VE BEEN THERE. THERE'S NOT HOUSES AROUND IT. OKAY THERE MIGHT BE A SPIT IN HERE AND THERE KNOW NEIGHBORHOODS OKAY, CAUSE THEY'RE LOUD. THERE'S A CONSTANT HUM SUBSTATIONS ARE HUGE. THOSE TRANSFORMERS MAKE NOISE. IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE. THE ONES IN HILLIARD. IF YOU GO DOWN, UH, 161. PAST CAUSE GRAVE GROVE ROAD . THERE'S ALSO A DATA CENTERS FROM AMAZON, NO HOUSES AROUND ANYWHERE. OKAY? IT. YEAH AND I GUESS ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO SAY, IS THAT A 6 FT
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MOUND. WHAT SOME TREES AROUND. IT DOESN'T COVER MUCH OF A 60 FT BUILDING. OKAY, AGAIN, UGLY.THIS STUFF SHOULDN'T BE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND WE'RE NOT TALKING. THESE THINGS SHOULD BE IN THERE. LIKE I SAID, IF YOU JUST GO LOOK AT NEW ALBANY, GO LOOK WHERE THEY'VE GOT THESE THINGS THAT GO LOOK AT WEST JEFFERSON. GO DOWN, RALPH. AROUND 40. YOU'LL SEE ALL THESE BUILDINGS. ALL THESE BUSINESSES. THEY'RE NOT AROUND HOUSES. NOWHERE AROUND HOUSES. AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T DO THE SAME THING. WE'VE GOT INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY. YOU'VE GOT INNOVATION.
ONE OKAY, THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR. USE IT FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT AGAINST POSSIBLY HAVING SOME OTHER RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS AROUND. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE A DOCTOR'S OFFICE. WE'RE NOT AGAINST THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THIS INDUSTRIAL THING AND HAVING, UM ALL POWER SUBSTATIONS AROUND HAVING RADIO TOWERS UP HIGH VOLTAGE LINES COMING OVERHEAD. IF YOU SEE IT FOR MORE PLACE THAT REALLY SUCKS. I'VE LIVED THERE 26 YEARS AND THE REASON I LIVE THERE IS BECAUSE I LIKE IT. IT'S QUIET. OKAY? ONE DATA CENTER. IF IT'S THE SIZE OF THE ONES LIKE FACEBOOK, YOU'VE GOT LIKE FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS, 1600 CONSTRUCTION WORKERS TO BUILD ONE OF THOSE PUPPIES.
OKAY YOU GOT TO GET THEM IN AND OUT OF THERE, TOO. THEY DON'T BUILD THESE THINGS OVERNIGHT.
THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE. MY NAME IS MARK CLARK. I LIVE AT 14041 INTO MILL ROAD THAT'S ON THE INSIDE OF THE BOX AND MEADOWS LOOT. UM SO I'M NOT EXACTLY DIRECTLY AFFECTED AS FAR AS THE PROXIMITY BUT.
OBVIOUSLY I'M IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE LIVED THERE THREE YEARS WHEN MY WIFE AND I RETIRED. UM WE WERE LOOKING FOR OUR FINAL FOREVER HOME. I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY, AND WE CHOSE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE LOCKS, THE FRIENDLINESS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM SO FIRST I'D LIKE TO SAY I'M NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT. UM I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL AWARE THAT THEY'RE YOU KNOW, IS A DEFINITE NEED. ESPECIALLY FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING IN OUR AREA. UM AND WOULD YOU KNOW AND TO BE HONEST, WITH DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD PROVIDE ENTERTAINMENT AND THINGS FOR FAMILIES TO DO. BECAUSE THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE IS SOMETHING THAT'S SORT OF LACKING IN IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. UM AND CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE SMALL TOWN FEEL WHEN YOU GET TO DOWNTOWN AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THAT TO GO AWAY. UM MY BIG ISSUE IS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PROPOSED THE P D. FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, UM YOU KNOW? YEAH WE GOT YOUR NUMBER ONE. YOU KNOW, WE REALLY DON'T WANT THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT BEHIND THIS. I'M OPEN TO DEVELOPMENT. BUT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE LISTED THAT COULD BE IN THE DEVELOPMENT. UM, I WOULD TAKE ISSUE WITH UM UH, LET'S SEE HERE. ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AH! THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN, UM OBVIOUSLY BUTTS UP TO THE CONFERENCE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FROM MY READING OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UM IT APPEARS THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO BE HOUSING. UM AND YOU KNOW. YEAH. SO WHAT IS TRULY APPROPRIATE IN THAT AREA? UM YOU KNOW WHAT INDEPENDENT STUDIES HAVE WE DONE? YOU KNOW, TO SHOW TO THE COMMITTEE. WHAT MARY'S ON THE COMMUNITY TRULY NEEDS RIGHT NOW. UM YOU KNOW? AND MAYBE THE REQUEST FOR THE TYPES OF USE ON THIS PROPERTY OR OVERLY BROAD. MAYBE WE SHOULD BE LIMITING MORE THE SCOPE OF WHAT CAN GO IN THERE. SO THAT YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF PROPERTY, AVOIDING US THE IMPACT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS AS SMALL AS POSSIBLE. UM SO, YOU KNOW.
THE OTHER ITEM IS THAT AH, WE ARE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS YEAR WE WILL BE REVIEWING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT THERE WAS MONEY PUT IN THE BUDGET TO DO THAT. UH SO YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I CAN TELL THE PLANS 5.5 YEARS OLD. A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED BETWEEN COVID AND ALL THE OTHER. BUILDING THAT'S GOING ON IN IN NEIGHBORING COUNTIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN MY OPINION. IS CHANGING WHAT IS HAPPENING AROUND MARYSVILLE? AND WE SHOULD
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BE ACCOUNT WHEN WE GO BACK AND REDO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UM SO YOU KNOW WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE POSTPONE MOVING FORWARD. UM, THAT WE ALLOW UM OURSELVES TO WELCOME TO PLAN LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND US. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TRY TO DETERMINE THROUGH INDEPENDENT STUDY. WHAT DO WE TRULY NEED? BECAUSE WE SAW THAT WE HAD HOUSING REJECTED ON THE WEST SIDE. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE TRULY WASN'T WAS REJECTED. UM, BUT. I THINK YOU KNOW. PART OF IT IS COMMUNITY DOESN'T REALLY KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO GO FORWARD.WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON ALL THE BUILDING THAT'S GOING ON AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE FOR TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WE'VE SEEN NOTHING IN TERMS OF THAT TYPE OF PLANE. AND FOR HOUSING. WE KNOW THAT THAT WAS UP AWFULLY QUICKLY, AND WE PUT YOU KNOW A BUNCH OF PEOPLE AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ISSUES. UM. SO YEAH. I BELIEVE THAT YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER HAS A GOOD PLAN, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT PLANE BELONGS WHERE IT'S AT. UM SO AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO SEE US.
YOU KNOW, WORK ON. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TRULY UNDERSTAND WHAT SHOULD BE IN THAT AREA. WHAT SHOULD BE IN THE OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN OUTLINED IN THE PAST. UH UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A FINANCIAL MOTIVATION TO GO WITH THIS BECAUSE IT PROVIDES A LOT OF TAX FUNDING. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST HOUSING AND PUTTING MORE CHILDREN INTO OUR SCHOOLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S GREAT FOR A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT. UM ABOUT 10 SECONDS LEFT. SO ANYWAYS, I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE LOOP. LOOK AT THE PLAN FROM THERE OR TO PAUSE. THANK YOU, SIR.
DOUG JENKINS, 14 TO 4 TO OXFORD DRIVE. I JUST WANT TO ADVISE CITY PLANNING AND CITY COUNCIL THAT GOING OUTSIDE THE 2018 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHERE TODAY IS STILL CLEARLY SHOWS ANNEXATION ONE AND TWO ON THE WEBSITE THE ENVISIONS THIS AREA AS BEING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPED.
THAT IT COULD, AND I'M JUST EMPHASIZING COULD CREATE A PRESIDENT FOR LEGAL CHALLENGES.
AND THIS AND ALL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS FOR MARYSVILLE. IF IN THE FUTURE, A LANDOWNER SLASH DEVELOPER WANTS TO CHANGE ZONING THAT CONFLICTS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON RECORD AT THAT TIME, YOU SHOULDN'T USE THE CAPRI PRINT HENSON PLAN AS A DENIAL TO THE REQUEST, AND THEN ON OTHER OCCASIONS IGNORE THE PLAN WHEN IT'S IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST . THIS COULD SET UP MARYSVILLE FOR FUTURE LEGAL CHALLENGES. SINCE WE ARE ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING COMMUNITIES IN OHIO ALSO , ADDITIONALLY, I DO GOT A QUESTION FOR BART WHEN HE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK IF I THE ANNEX ONE AND TWO WITH THE AMOUNT OF ACRES WERE PHYSICALLY IF THERE ARE GOING TO PUT A DATA CENTER IN THERE. WHERE DO THEY ENVISION AS THE OTHER CENTER ACTUALLY BEING PLACED? THAT WOULD FIND HELP THE RESIDENTS BUCKS AND MY WILL HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE CONCERNS REGARDING NOISE AND SO FORTH. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. EMILY HOSTS 1 36 30 WATKINS ROAD . UM I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION I'M OUTSIDE OF BUXTON MEADOWS. I LOVE THE BUFFER IDEA. IS THAT GONNA BE A BUDDING ALL THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES? AND WHERE THE ZONING IS CHANGED. IS THERE GOING TO BE A MOUND OR IS IT JUST GOING TO BE THE SETBACKS? UM I THINK I MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE SEASONALLY.
UM ARE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON? I'M ON WHAT CAN IF YOU GO BACK, I CAN SHOW YOU I BELIEVE IT'S JUST SET BACK. UM THIS IS MY HOUSE, OKAY? SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S GONNA BE MOUNTING HERE TOO. I KNOW WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE ROAD'S GONNA GO. BUT ASIDE FROM THE ONE THAT'S ASSUMED IN BECAUSE BECAUSE SHE WAS IN THAT AREA SO YOU'RE. SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD JUST BE THE 100 FT. I JUST WASN'T SURE IF THERE WAS ALSO GOING TO BE MOUNTING THERE
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AND I'M MESSING THINGS UP. IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS PRETTY OFTEN. MHM UM. SO I'M SORRY. I MEAN, THERE'S HOUSING. THERE'S HOUSES THERE, TOO. IT'S NOT I UNDERSTAND THE BUCKS AND MEADOWS HAS THE MOST HOUSES. BUT THERE ARE HOUSES AROUND IF WHEN WE GO FROM A ZONING DIFFERENCE IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL, MOUNTING TO HELP OKAY WITH THE OPACITY THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE SEEING TO THEM ONCE THEY ARE, I THOUGHT I COULD ANSWER THESE LATE APPARENTLY COULD NOT SO ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. DAVID YODER, 14053 OXFORD DRIVE. I AM IN BUXTON MEADOWS. I AM ON THAT EDGE, SO I'M DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT AS A NEIGHBORHOOD WE'VE MET TOGETHER QUITE A BIT. WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT OF THIS AREA. WE UNDERSTAND THAT MARYSVILLE IS IN A PRIME LOCATION. CENTRAL OHIO IS A PLACE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BE, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE GROWTH IS INEVITABLE, AND IT'S A GOOD THING. WHAT WE'RE OPPOSED TO IS THE POTENTIAL USE OF THIS AREA AS AN INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 33 THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THIS AND IT'S NOT FULL, AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT WE'D NEVER HAVE GOTTEN AS SATISFACTORY ANSWER TO MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE NEED ADDITIONAL SPACE. WHEN WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE ABILITY TO FILL UP THE EXISTING AREA, UM SO WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA. UM I THINK THE RESIDENTIAL IDEA IT IS. AS WE SEE IN THE EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THAT IS THE BEST THING FOR THIS AREA, AND I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE MUCH LESS PUSHBACK FROM THE GENERAL AREA.IF THAT'S WHAT THIS WAS USED FOR. UM SO, LIKE I SAID, WE UNDERSTAND THAT GROWTH IS GOOD.
WE WANT TO SEE THAT WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE IT DONE APPROPRIATELY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HMM. CLOSE THIS COMPUTER STUFF DOWN. IS THAT OKAY? OKAY? MISS ANYTHING UP. SHUT THE SCREEN OFF. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. THAT'S OKAY. WE GET IT YOURSELF. OKAY? GOT IT. LIKE LET ME GO BACK TO THE SECRET PASSWORD BACK IN. FOUR. HMM. MAYBE. ALL RIGHT. SOME OF YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR THIS AGAIN IS PRETTY CLOSE TO YESTERDAY. I'M MICHELLE NICODEMUS. I LIVE AT 14183 OXFORD DRIVE AGAIN. ALSO LINE. UM, THE PROPERTY. GOOD EVENING. UM UH, BUXTON'S HERB.
OKAY OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, CITIZENS OF MARYSVILLE HAD THE HEARD SEVERAL BUZZWORDS, SUCH AS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND DATA CENTERS. I'M HERE TO ASK THAT YOU ARE AWARE WHAT THE COMBINATION OF THESE TWO WILL MEAN FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS WITHIN MARYSVILLE, EAST ANNEXATION NUMBER TWO. AT THE. PLANNING MEETING MONDAY. I'M SO SORRY AT THE PLANNING MEETING OCTOBER 3RD. IT WAS MENTIONED THAT WE DID NOT HAVE DATA CENTERS AND OUR ZONING, SO THIS IS VERY NEW TO OUR COMMUNITY AND PLANNING THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DEVELOPMENTAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY MENTIONED THAT THEY ARE TARGETING STANDALONE DATA CENTERS IN THEIR MARKETING STRATEGY. I AM NOT OPPOSED TO DATA CENTERS. I'M OPPOSED TO A DATA CENTER WITHIN A FEW MILES OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE IS A PLAYBOOK THAT COMPANIES CAN FOLLOW ONE ASKING FOR DATA CENTER ZONING. PART OF IT READS EVEN IF A POTENTIAL PROPERTY SITS IN AN AMBIGUOUS ZONE, THERE COULD BE A SIMPLE FIX. THE PROPERTY COULD BE REZONED IN AS LITTLE AS THREE MONTHS IN SOME LOCATIONS TO A ZONE THAT ALLOWS DATA CENTERS WITH THIS APPROACH.
DEVELOPERS DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO STATE PUBLICLY THEIR INTENTION TO BUILD A DATA CENTER, OFTEN MAKING IT EASIER TO OBTAIN APPROVALS. ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS FOR THE CENTERS CLOSE TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IS THE NOISE RESIDENTS. NEIGHBORING DATA CENTERS IN PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY , VIRGINIA AND CHANDLER, ARIZONA ARE VOICING THEIR CONCERNS REGARDING THE NOISE FROM THE CENTERS THAT THEY ARE 700 FT AWAY FROM THEIR HOMES, ALONG WITH THE DATA CENTERS CAN BE ELECTRICAL SUBSTATIONS GENERATOR YARDS, WHICH NEED TO BE FREQUENTLY TESTED AN ENORMOUS V A C UNITS. MY HUSBAND AND I WENT TO A DATA CENTER ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO WITH MY DECIBEL METER. THE READINGS RANGED FROM BETWEEN THE MID SIXTIES. TO THE LOW SEVENTIES. THIS WAS ONE BUILDING THERE COULD BE A CUMULATIVE EFFECTS WITH MORE. UM FOR
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EXAMPLE, 55 DECIBELS AS A RESIDENTIAL STREET, NORMAL HOME RESIDENTS. 60 DECIBELS IS A NORMAL CONVERSATION. 70 IS NOISE EQUAL TO A VACUUM CLEANER OR ALLOWED ALLOWED CONVERSATION.IMAGINE PLAYING OUTSIDE WITH YOUR KIDS ENJOYING A MORNING CUP OF COFFEE WHILE YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE CONSTANT HUM OF A VACUUM CLEANER. THIS RECORDING WAS TAKEN BY A RETIRED NASA ANALYST IN VIRGINIA ABOUT 700 FT FROM THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE DATA CENTER PARK. THE FIRST SOUND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR IS A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD SIMILAR TO BUXTON MEADOWS. THE SECOND ONE IS ABOUT 700 FT. FROM THE DATA CENTER, UM PARK. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN EVEN HEAR THIS.
THE LARGE H VAC SYSTEMS CAN ALSO AMERICAN TENUOUS, LOW FREQUENCY HUM THAT THE BRAIN HAS DIFFICULTY THREE FILTERING OUT. THE CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL WARNED NOISE NOT LOUD ENOUGH TO CAUSE HEARING DAMAGE CAN STILL CAUSE STRESS, ANXIETY AND EVEN HEART DISEASE WHEN CONTINUOUSLY EXPOSED TO IT. THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION HAS RECOGNIZED LOW FREQUENCY NOISE AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS SINCE 2000 STATED IN LITERATURE STUDIES REINFORCE THE FACT THAT LOW FREQUENCY NOISE IS A POWERFUL STRESSOR, THE MOST CITED EFFECTS ON HUMAN HEALTH REFERRED TO EMOTIONAL CHANGES, SUCH AS ANNOYANCE, AGITATION IN DISTRACTION. IN ADDITION TO THE ASSOCIATION OF LOW FREQUENCY NOISE WITH COGNITIVE ALTERATIONS , THE DEVELOPMENT OF CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE, SLEEP DISORDERS AND HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE. IT SEEMS THAT OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS SUCH AS THOSE MENTIONED IN VIRGINIA, ARIZONA HAVE BEEN GUINEA PIGS TO SEE IF A DATA CENTER AND RESIDENTIAL CARE AND COEXIST MASKING MARYSVILLE TO BE PROACTIVE IN THE POTENTIAL NOISE PROBLEM AND NOT FIGURE IT OUT LATER, SOME OF OUR SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES STATE A P U D TO PROVIDE AMENITIES AND ENHANCEMENTS THAT WILL SUSTAIN THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND PROPERTY VALUES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS PROPERTY SURROUNDING THE PROPOSED P U. D. THERE'S A DATA CENTER MEET THIS. ANOTHER OBJECTIVE STATES ARE PLANNED. UNIT DEVELOPMENT MAY INCLUDE ANY COMBINATION OF USES DOT DOT DOT PROVIDED THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE USES WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT ADJACENT PROPERTY AND OR THE PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY OR GENERAL WELFARE. THERE IS A LOT TO UNPACK WITH A DATA CENTER. THE NOISE THE MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF DAILY WATER USE THE AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY IT IS NOT JUST A WAREHOUSE, POTENTIALLY 400 FT FROM MY BACKYARD. IT COMES WITH BAGGAGE. YOU WILL HEAR THE NOISE. YOU WILL HEAR THE WORDS. NOISE MITIGATION MENTIONED AT SOME POINT. KEEP IN MIND. THERE ARE NOISE MITIGATION STRATEGIES BEING UTILIZED BY THE CENTERS AND ARIZONA AND VIRGINIA AND THE RESIDENTS ARE STILL RAISING RED FLAGS. MARYSVILLE IS IN A POSITION THAT IS GETTING NEAR. OKAY IT'S PREPARED, OKAY, STATED. THE UNION COUNTY DID DAILY DIGITAL YESTERDAY YESTERDAY. COUNCIL IS NOT BEHOLDEN TO BUXTON MEADOWS.
WHILE THIS IS TRUE, THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME FOR THE CITY. THE SHOW THE CITIZENS OF MARYSVILLE, AN EXAMPLE OF RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT AND ZONING, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK. SURE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DOUG BOY. I LIVE AT 1461 HITTING MILL ON THE INSIDE OF THE OF BUXTON MEADOWS THERE AND AT THE RISK OF RAMBLINGS. I DIDN'T PREPARE TO SAY ANYTHING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SORT OF PIGGYBACK ON WHAT YOU JUST HEARD FROM MS NICODEMUS ABOUT JUST LOCATION IF I COULD JUST SHOW YOU HERE SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT ILLEGALS. AND MANASSAS, VIRGINIA, RIGHT, THE ONE THAT VIRGINIA THEY WERE TALKING 708 100 FT AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY, AND THIS IS WHAT THE NOISE WAS. SO IF MY SKILL NOT JUST ONE DOESN'T EVEN WORK THING. SO. G I S SKILLS ARE ACTIVE, WHICH I THINK THEY ROUGHLY ARE MEASURING FOR, LIKE THE BACKYARD OF SAFE RESIDENTS ALONG THIS SIDE OF OXFORD TO ABOUT THE MIDDLE ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF THIS PIECE OF LAND HERE, AND THAT'S IN THIS SUBJECT . WHAT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 450 TO 500 FT. LET'S JUST TO THE MIDDLE. THAT'S NOT TRUE PERIPHERY. THAT'S NOT TO AN EDGE ABOUT PROPOSED BUILDING BASKETBALL RIGHT THERE. ABOUT 450. MAYBE 500 FT. OKAY WE'RE TALKING 700 TO 800 FT. EXACTLY WE'RE TALKING 700 TO 800 FT THAT
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PEOPLE IN MANASSAS AND OTHERS IN IN CHANDLER, I BELIEVE IT WAS, UH, ARIZONA ARE FACING 70 TO 80 DECIBELS CONSTANT, CONSTANT NOISE AGAIN. WE'RE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT IN ANY WAY, BUT WHAT WE'RE AGAINST IS, I GUESS. IRRESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT, BAD DEVELOPMENT. UM WE'RE JUST ENCOURAGING THE CITY TO DO THE RIGHT THING IN THE SITUATION. LOOK AT HOW OTHERS YOU ALREADY HEARD AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. ABOUT THOSE AREAS WERE DATA CENTERS ARE NOW WHERE THERE IS NOBODY AROUND. UM THE ONES IN NEW ALBANY OFF BEACH ROAD. NOBODY WOULD BE SEEN, UH, SO ONE OFF 23. I BELIEVE. I THINK IT'S A I THINK IT'S A GOOGLE OR AN AMAZON, ONE OFF 23 JUST SOUTH OF TO 17 YEAR, SHIOTA DOWN, I THINK THE FURTHEST HOUSE AWAY THE FIRST BACKYARD IS 35 TO 3600 FT, AWAY FROM THE FURTHEST PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING THAT'S DOWN THERE, AND WE'RE TALKING IN THE AREAS LIKE THIS. 3 4 5 600 FT. THE BUFFERS ARE NICE. YOU KNOW THE LANDSCAPING ALL THAT IS NICE. BUT YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS KIND OF SOUND. YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS KIND OF NOISE POLLUTION, WHICH WILL PUSH 70 TO 80 DECIBELS. AS MEASURES 708 100 FT AWAY. THIS IS RIGHT IN THE BACKYARD, SO I JUST ENCOURAGED THE CITY DO THE RIGHT THING AGAIN, NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE AREAS FOR THAT. JUST ENCOURAGE THE CITY TOO. TO JUST KEEP IT ZONED RESPONSIBLY AGAIN. WE ARE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT. BUT JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER CITIZENS WHICH MEANS SPEAK ONE MORE THING. I THINK YOU HAD A FEW TWO MINUTES LEFT. LET'S SAY SURE. ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT I FORGOT TO BRING UP. IS THAT THESE DATA CENTERS ARE REALLY REALLY HIGH SECURITY. FOR A REASON. OKAY, SO . LIGHTING AROUND THESE PLACES OR BLINDING BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WALK AROUND ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS IN THE SHADOWS BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT GONNA HAPPEN. IT'S GONNA BE BRIGHT. IT'S GONNA BE NOISY. AND THOSE LIGHTS WILL NEVER GO OFF EXCEPT FOR THE DAYTIME. AND THEY'RE GOING TO LIGHT UP THE ENTIRE ENTIRE AREA WHERE THEY'RE AT. IN THE AMAZON IN NEW ALBANY. HAS 345 ACRES. THEY HAVE FIVE BUILDINGS. THEY OWN THAT WHOLE 345. THEY USED 85 OF IT. IN THE CENTER OF THE THING TO KEEP IT AWAY FROM HIM. EVERYBODY WHITING WAS THE ONE THING THAT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS AND NEW ALBANY COMPLAINED ABOUT WAS THAT IT WAS JUST SO BRIGHT. IT WAS JUST LIKE A STAR. EVEN IF THERE WERE A COUPLE OF MILES AWAY. THEY COULD. THEY COULD JUST SEE YOU KNOW THE AURA. THAT WAS THE ONE THING I FORGOT TO MENTION BEFORE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. FRENCH CITIZENS. HELLO MY NAME IS BEANIE WES.LIKE UM I'M A DOVER TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE. AND SO A LOT OF GOOD POINTS THAT OUR FELLOW CONSTITUENTS HAVE MADE TODAY. BUT FROM A TRUSTEE STANDPOINT, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS. I UM I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANSWERED FIRST OF ALL, UM WHAT WAS THE POLICY ABOUT A TRAFFIC STUDY? WAS THAT EVER DONE? YEAH I CAN ANSWER THAT, SO THE TRAFFIC STUDY WILL BE REQUIRED FOR EVERY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THIS PLANNING THAT DEVELOPMENT AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE THRESHOLD OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TRIPS, SORT OF VEHICLES PER PER DEVELOPMENT. SO WHEN WILL THAT BE DONE? IS THAT DONE BEFORE THE DECISION HERE CAN BE MADE TO GO FORWARD. THE TRAFFIC STUDY WILL NOT BE COMPLETE BEFORE THAT DECISION IS MADE NO THIS. THIS IS THIS IS A LAND NEWS PLANNING DOCUMENT. UM.
I DON'T THINK WE KNOW WHAT THE FINAL BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE IN THIS AREA. UM IT WOULD BE TOUGH TO DATA CENTERS ARE BROUGHT UP HERE, DENNIS SENATORS DON'T GENERATE ANY TRAFFIC RIGHT ? HOWEVER IF ANOTHER USE IN THE PERMANENT USES THAT WOULD GENERATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC IS TOUGH TO CANNOT COMPARE. AND DETERMINE THAT TRAFFIC STUDY NOW WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THOSE USES ARE GONNA BE. YEAH THAT'S I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHY SOME OF OUR CONSTITUENTS WOULD LIKE
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POSSIBLY KNOW WHAT POSSIBLY WOULD BE COMING IN. AND FROM A TOWNSHIP STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE ROADS. AND SO, FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT THAT COSTS ARE TOWNSHIP MONEY, AND, UH, SO THAT'S A CONCERN THAT WE HAVE FROM THE TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE, UH, THAT WE HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT IS DRAINAGE AND DRAINAGE IS HUGE IN THAT AREA BECAUSE ALL THE WATER OBVIOUSLY FLOWS EAST AND IT GOES TOWARDS MILL CREEK AND SO DEPENDENT ON WHAT'S THERE, UM, IS GOING TO DEPEND ON WHAT KIND OF DRAINAGE IS GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED. AND RIGHT NOW, ALL THE WATER GHOST OF MILLCREEK, AND AS YOU CAN SEE UP THERE THESE RESIDENTS ACTUALLY PAID FOR UM, THAT'S 60. FT 30 FROM THE CENTER WATERWAY BACK IN 2000 , AND IT WAS PUT ON, UM ALL OF THEIR TAX BILLS. SO UM, YOU KNOW , WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT DRAINAGE, YOU KNOW, DEPENDS ON WHAT'S GOING TO BE THERE, BUT A LOT OF GOOD POINTS. BUT THESE ARE SOME QUESTIONS AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION A TRAFFIC. AND DRAINAGE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE ROADS. THANK YOU.THANK YOU, SIR. THE OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK. ALRIGHT SEE? NONE WILL CLOSE CITIZEN COMMENTS AND ASKED THE AFRICAN TO GO BACK TO THE PODIUM AND WELL GO THROUGH SOME QUESTIONS YOU HEARD WE HEARD AND HOPEFULLY HAVE SOME ANSWERS LIKE I'M SORRY. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO AHEAD FIRST? OR WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR LIST AND THEN I'LL CHECK OFF WHAT I HAVE. AND UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE BROAD STATEMENT THAT IN NEW ALBANY THAT THERE ARE NOT DATA CENTERS LOCATED NEAR RESIDENTIAL IS COMPLETELY TRUE. UM YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS PARK ITSELF HAS EVOLVED OVER TIME NUMBER ONE. IT'S GROWN EXPONENTIALLY IN THE LAST, YOU KNOW, 78 YEARS. AND WE HAVE HAD MANY INSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE ABUNDANT PROPERTIES. AND THEN YOU KNOW LATER, THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN A ACQUIRED AND DEVELOPED. THAT'S THAT'S ONE SITUATION THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A SIZABLE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WE DO ACROSS FROM THE US PROJECT ON BEACH ROAD, HAVE A EXISTING COMMUNITY OF HOMES TO THE WEST OF BEACH ROAD JUST ACROSS THE STREET THAT ARE WORTH, YOU KNOW 5 $600,000 APIECE, SO THEY DO COEXIST THERE. UM WHERE THE GOOGLE PROJECT IS, WHICH IS IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COMMUNITY DOWN BY MORSE ROAD. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, BABBITT ROAD CONTINUES TO HAVE A LOT OF RURAL RESIDENTIAL AROUND IT. UH YOU KNOW, EVEN A BUDDING AND MANY INSTANCES, EITHER GOOGLE OR ANOTHER DATA CENTER FUTURE DATA CENTER SITE. THAT WE HAVE THERE THAT IS BEEN PURCHASED BY Q. T S. UM SO AND THEN, UM BY THE INTEL SITE AND ALSO A BUDDING SOME DATA CENTERS IS A SUBDIVISION CALLED BERMUDA.
IT WAS IN THE NEWS QUITE A BIT IN RECENT TIMES, GIVEN ITS PROXIMITY TO THAT PROJECT, AND SO THERE ARE INSTANCES OF WHERE THESE USES COEXIST, AND I WILL SAY THAT UM, FOR THE MOST PART, THE FORMULA IN NEW ALBANY HAS BEEN THE SAME ZONING TEXT OVER AND OVER AGAIN OVER THE YEARS FROM LESSONS LEARNED IN THE MINIMUM SETBACKS, AND THOSE AREAS HAVE BEEN 100 FT. FOR THE MOST PART WITH MOUNTING COMMITMENTS WE'RE MAKING HERE BUT THE COMMITMENTS WE'VE MADE IN THE MINIMUM SETBACKS FROM RESIDENTIAL THERE HAVE BEEN BASICALLY 100 FT IN AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO MORE HERE. UM IN TERMS OF NOISE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS I POINTED OUT SECONDARY REVIEW, UM BY YOUR DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, AS I'M GOING TO GUESS THAT THAT WILL BE A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION. SHOULD WE BRING DATA CENTER USES HERE AND THAT'S NOT A FOREGONE CONCLUSION. I THINK THERE'S A LIKELIHOOD OF THAT. BUT THERE ARE OTHER USES ALLOWED AS WELL THAT WE WILL PURSUE. BUT UH, YOU KNOW, WE, UM WE WILL GO THROUGH THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD PROCESS.
I'M SURE THAT THE SCREENING AND THE SOUND BUFFERING AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT WILL BE TOPIC A OF CONVERSATION. IF THERE IS A DATA CENTER BUILDING WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL, UM, I BELIEVE YOUR CODE, LIKE MOST CODES, OR ZONING CODE HAS PROVISIONS IN IT RELATING TO NUISANCES BEING NOT BEING ABLE TO BE CREATED IN TERMS OF VOTERS , NOISES, LIGHTING, ETCETERA, SO I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WILL NEED TO BE PROVEN AT THE TIME OF THE SECONDARY REVIEW
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THAT WERE MITIGATING THOSE THINGS PROACTIVELY RATHER THAN CREATING PROBLEMS AND HAVING TO SOLVE THEM RETROACTIVELY. UM. YOU KNOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? UM YOU KNOW, COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ARE FUNNY THING, UM, THEY CAN HAVE USED THEM MYSELF AN ARGUMENT FOR WHATEVER CASE I'M TRYING TO GET APPROVED OR PROJECT AND AGAINST IT. YOU KNOW , I THINK SOMEONE MENTIONED IN FACT, THE WORLD HAS CHANGED QUITE A BIT SINCE 2018. COVID EVEN THIS INTEL ANNOUNCEMENT.WHILE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A LONG WAY AWAY FROM HERE, IT'S HAD A RIPPLE EFFECT ON CENTRAL OHIO IS CREATING A LOT MORE DEMAND AND THESE HIGHWAY CORRIDORS FOR THE TYPES OF USES WERE PROPOSING.
AND SO YOU KNOW THAT DOCUMENT IS IN FACT, A RECOMMENDATION AND IF IT WERE ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT, THEN THERE'LL BE NO NEED FOR ZONING. YOU JUST FOLLOW WHATEVER IS IN THE COM PLAN, SO UM, I THINK IT'S TOTALLY WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW AND WITHOUT BRINGING, YOU KNOW LEGAL CHALLENGES UPON YOURSELVES TO FOLLOW THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHERE IT MAKES SENSE AND NOT TO DO IT.
WHEN TIMES HAVE CHANGED. UM THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL BUFFERING OVER FOR THE WOMAN WHO LIVES ACROSS ON WATKINS TO THE EAST. UM YOU KNOW , ONE THING. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS NEW ROAD IS GOING TO GO, COULD POSSIBLY GO IN THAT LOCATION. UM IT MAY NOT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WILL BE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH HER. AND WE EVEN TAKE HER NAME, UM, TO PROVIDE APPROPRIATE SCREENING DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS OVER THERE, AND THAT CAN ALSO BE I WOULD ASSUME IF WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT ENCOMPASSES SOME OF THAT AREA OVER THERE, SHE WOULD GET NOTICED. I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE OF THAT HEARING AND WE COULD CONTINUE TO WORK WITH HER.
WE HAVE EVEN UM MADE COMMITMENTS IN SOME CASES TO PLANT EVERGREENS ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY ALONG THEIR FRONTAGE. IF THAT HELPS AND WITH HER PERMISSION WILL BE MORE THAN WILLING TO DO THAT. UM THAT WAS MY LIST, BUT I MAY HAVE MISSED SOMETHING. SO IF YOU HAVE OTHERS THAT I YOU WANT ME TO ADDRESS A CERTAINLY CAN STORM DRAINAGE. YOU GOT ONE? BOOK JUST. TAKE LOGAN CAMP AGAIN. UM I JUST WANTED TO TRY AND JUMP ON IT JUMP TO SUN. COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS. UM FIRST OF ALL, THERE WAS THE COMMENT MADE THAT THERE WAS A PLAYBOOK. FOR DATA CENTERS AND THAT WE COULD ORDER THAT DATA CENTER USERS COULD HAVE A PROPERTY REZONED WITHOUT DISCLOSING THEIR INTENTION. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE HERE, YOU KNOW, SAYING EXACTLY WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN, UM, AND YOUR ONE OF YOUR ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS THAT WE DREW FROM ACTUALLY HAS A USE CALLED DATA PROCESSING AND YOU KNOW, THE SUGGESTION HAD BEEN MADE INTERNALLY. ONE POINT. WELL, DOESN'T THAT MEET THE NEED OF DATA CENTER AND YES, MAYBE YOU COULD SHOEHORN INTO THAT. IT WOULD MAKE SENSE. UM BUT BUT WE WANTED TO. WE WANTED TO, UM YOU KNOW, TOUGH MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING WOULD HAPPEN, UM, ON THE DRAINAGE, JUST REAL QUICK. UM YOU KNOW ANY ENGINEERING REVIEW OF ANY DEVELOPMENT WE DO WILL INCLUDE DRAINAGE. UM, I'M SURE THAT KYLE AND HIS TEAM WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT. AS IS ALWAYS THE CASE. YOU KNOW WHEN YOU DEVELOP WHAT IS NOW FARMLAND, YOU ARE GOING TO INCREASE THE RUNOFF FROM THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE YOU CREATE, BUT IT WILL BE OUR OBLIGATION TO DETAIN THAT WATER ON SITE AND RELEASE IT AT A RATE THAT IS NO FASTER THAN WHAT IT IS BEING RELEASED AT. NATURALLY NOW, UM, ON THE TOWNSHIP ROADWAYS, AND I'M GOING TO LOOK AT KYLE ON THIS. UM UM, THE NEW ROAD WOULD BE IN THE CITY. I'M ASSUMING THAT WOULD BE A CITY MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY. CORRECT YEAH, AND THAT THAT ROAD WHICH WOULD WOULD IN FACT, HOPEFULLY REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON THE EXISTING TOWNSHIP PORTION OF WHAT KINS ROAD. UM THE YET THERE WAS ALSO A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THE CITY HAD ALREADY HAS LAND AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT AT THE INNOVATION PARK ON THE WEST SIDE OF 33 THE INNOVATION PARK THERE YOU DO YOU HAVE ABOUT 100 AND 30 ACRES. UM, THAT'S THAT'S NOT A HUGE SUPPLY OF LAND THAT COULD BE TAKEN UP IN THE COURSE OF ONE OR MAYBE TWO TRANSACTIONS. UM, AND SO IF WE'RE GOING TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE THAT THAT INVENTORY IS, IS NOWHERE NEAR BEING SUFFICIENT . I THINK THOSE ARE. I'M SURE YOU HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS
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CHAIRMAN, BUT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON THOSE REAL QUICK. SURE UM, I GUESS JUST CLARIFY, UM, BUT WALKING'S ROAD TO THE SOUTH. LET'S SAY THE NEW ROAD OCCURS HERE. WE DON'T KNOW. WALKING THROUGH THE SOUTH IS STILL THE TOWNSHIP AND WOULD BE THE TOWNSHIPS, RESPONSIBILITY AND ANY INCREASED TRAFFIC. THERE WOULD BE A MAINTENANCE SET THE SOUTH OF THAT NEW NEW BYPASS ROAD. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD BE WILLING TO TALK TO HIM. DOVER TOWNSHIP ABOUT. THANK YOU TOUCHED ON SOUND, BUT ALSO LIGHTING. I MEAN , ANY PROPOSED DEVELOPED DEVELOPING THAT COMES TO THE DESIGN REVIEW WARD. WE ASKED THE LIGHTING STUDIES OCCUR, YOU KNOW , DATA CENTERS OR NOT EXCEPTION, LIKE WE DO NOT ALLOW LIGHTING TO GO OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARIES. UM TO THE EAST. UM. THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, UM, I ASSUME YOU DON'T KNOW IF A DATA CENTER WOULD COME TO THIS AREA. WHERE WOULD IT BE WITHIN THIS AREA? I MEAN, WE'RE NOT AT THAT POINT.THAT'S CORRECT. AND YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN GET THOSE SORTS OF USES INTERESTED, THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE. SO YOU KNOW THE FORMULA THAT WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITH IN ATTRACTING ALL SORTS OF USES IS TO GET THESE UNDERLYING ENTITLEMENTS IN PLACE SO THAT YOU CAN THEN GO OUT AND MARKET THE PROPERTY. AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S WHEN WE BRING THAT PARTICULAR USE OR USER IN AND TALK TO YOUR STAFF AND DETERMINE WHERE IT IS APPROPRIATE. AND IF SUBSTATIONS ARE NEEDED BY A OCCUPANT, UM WOULD YOU EXPECT THE ELECTRICAL CLIENTS TO BE OVERHEAD THAT WAS TOUCHED ON OR DO WE KNOW. YES, WE WOULD. IT DEPENDS ESSENTIALLY ON THE VOLTAGE OF IF THEY'RE HIGH VOLTAGE TRANSMISSION LINES, WHICH ACTUALLY EXIST TODAY AT THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF NOT JUST OFF. UM THE SITE WHERE REZONING NOW ON THE CROSSES THE SCOTS PROPERTY. THERE'S A 138 KV LINE. THERE AND THERE'S ALSO A 69 KV LINE RUNNING NORTH SOUTH, JUST WEST OF WILDWOOD LANE, UM, THAT THE CUT OFF, UM, TO MAKE IT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE TO PUT TRANSMISSION LINES UNDERGROUND. IS THAT WHAT THAT 69 KV AND ABOVE? SO THEY WOULD BE OVERHEAD AND THE SUBSTATIONS WOULD WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE ABOVE GROUND. THANK YOU QUESTIONS COMMENTS THAT YOU GUYS HAD WRITTEN DOWN? I AM QUESTIONS THAT I'VE DERIVED FROM THEIR QUESTIONS. YEAH SURE. OPEN THAT UP. OKAY SURE. AH JUST A COMMENT FIRST. SO THERE WAS A STATEMENT MADE ABOUT LIKE FINANCIAL MOTIVATION OF THE PROPERTY, AND I WOULD SAY PLANNING COMMISSION. WE'RE NOT.
WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE, NOT A FINANCIAL MOTIVATION, SO I DON'T FEEL THAT WE CAN REALLY ELABORATE ON THAT. GIVEN OUR ROLE HERE, UM THEY'RE THE MOUNDING THAT WOULD SURROUND THE BOX AND MEADOWS NEIGHBORHOOD. HOW DOES THAT PLAY INTO IMPACTED DRAINAGE, SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS A LOT OF THIS FIELD DRAINS INTO THAT SWAIL THAT SOUTH OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS SURROUNDED BY MOUNDING HOW WILL IT GET TO THE SWELL OR IS THERE GOING TO BE AN OPENING IN THE MOUNTING TO ALLOW WATER TO GO THERE? OR WITH THE WATER BE MITIGATED, DIRECTED SOMEWHERE ELSE. I'M JUST AN ATTORNEY, BUT, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW , I WOULD SAY THAT YOU KNOW THE ENGINEERING COMPONENTS OF THIS, UM YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY, PROBABLY GET A PLAN APPROVED. OBVIOUSLY IT WAS DICK MENTIONED THE IT'S NOT JUST US BEING GET PEOPLE OR GET DEVELOPERS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THINGS DICK MENTIONED, WHICH IS NOT INCREASING THE FLOW AND NOT, UH, CAUSING IMPEDIMENTS TO THE EXISTING DRAINAGE. UM AND SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE STATE LAW THROUGH BOTH REGULATORY AND COURT COURT DECISIONS. SO WHEN WE WOULD COME THROUGH WITH AN INDIVIDUAL PLAN, WE WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY GET THE 70 80% ENGINEERING IN ORDER TO GET TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. I WOULD THINK, AND IS THAT WHAT I BE CORRECT? YEAH WE TYPICALLY HAVE LIKE A PRE APPLICATION MEETING WITH THE APPLICANT JUST TO KIND OF LOOK AT WHERE THOSE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FEATURES ARE LOCATED ON THE SITE JUST TO MAKE SURE IT MAKES SENSE AND KIND OF PASSES THE EYE TEST. SURE. AND THEN THERE IS A REALLY INTRICATE PERMITTING PROCESS BEFORE YOU CAN START CONSTRUCTION OF ANY SORT, AND SO
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, UM, THE BASELINE IS THAT WE HAVE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, UM NOT INCREASE THAT FLOW OR IN IMPEDE THE ABILITY OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEIR STORMWATER TAKING CARE OF. UM I WOULD SAY THAT IN MANY INSTANCES WHEN YOU BRING YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE IN A TOWNSHIP AND YOU DON'T HAVE DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING , UM YOU KNOW YOU HAVE FARM FIELDS. IT'S NATURAL, RIGHT? UM AND THERE ARE TILES AND THINGS. BUT OFTENTIMES IT'S DEVELOPMENT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S BRINGING MORE IMPERVIOUS AREA DOES IMPROVE THE DRAINING SITUATION FOR NOT ONLY THE PROPERTY BUT FOR OTHERS AROUND IT. I HAVE HEARD THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT DOES CHANGE. YOU HAVE TO MANAGE WATER. NOW THAT, UH, CLOSER DEGREE UM, I KNOW JUST FROM I WALKED OUT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WITH SOME OF THE MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE HERE, AND I KNOW THERE'S PARTICULAR SENSITIVITY TO WATER.A LOT OF THE PEOPLE ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE HAVE YOU KNOW PARTIAL FLOODING OF THEIR BACKYARDS AND WHATNOT AND THERE'S APPREHENSION ABOUT THAT. SO UM. THAT WAS THE QUESTION ABOUT MOUNDING AND IMPACT OF DRAINAGE. AND THEN THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT TOWNSHIP ROADS AND IF THERE IS, IF ANY, RIGHT, MAYBE YOU ALREADY ANSWERED THIS, BUT WE COULDN'T EXIT ONTO A TOWNSHIP ROAD WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE TOWNSHIP. IS THAT HOW WOULD THAT WORK IF WE CONNECT TO A TOWNSHIP ROAD WITH A NEW ROAD? WE CAN? YEAH WE CAN CONNECT TO ATTENTION ROOM WITH WITH THEIR PERMISSION OR IS IT REVIEWED WOULD WORK WITH THE COUNTY ENGINEERS OFFICE ON THOSE ACCESS POINTS. OKAY? UM YEAH, AS AS MIKE MENTIONED BEFORE ANY ROAD WITHIN THE CORPORATION LIMITS THE CITY WOULD TAKE ON ALL THE MAINTENANCE FOR THOSE OKAY? AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT IF THERE IS A ROAD THROUGH THIS, IT WOULD ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC ON WALKING. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. WHAT GOT MY BARBARIC ROCKFORD DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENTS AS PART OF THIS MARYSVILLE PROVIDED TO SERVICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND OUR INDEXATION PROCESS AND WORKING WITH JEFF STOUT AND KYLE . THEY HAVE SOME AGREEMENTS AS TO HOW THE ROADS THAT ARE MAINTAINED EITHER BY THE TOWNSHIP OR THE COUNTY USUALLY MAINTAINS THOSE ROADS AND THE CITY. THEY'VE GOT SOME AGREEMENTS AS TO THE WATKINS ROAD AND THOSE SORT OF PORTIONS IN THAT AGREEMENT. SO FOR THE MOST PART, THE CITY HAS AGREED TO MAINTAIN ANY ROAD. THAT MAY BE ANNEXED ON ONE SIDE AND NOT THE OTHER. SO THAT DOES HELP, AND THE OTHER PIECE TO REMEMBER IS THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THIS DOWN TO SCOTTS LAWN IS ALREADY AN EXTENT. SO A BIG PORTION OF SCOTTS LAWN AND THE REPORT OF WATKINS ROAD IS ALREADY ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.
SURE. THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE ABOUT TRAIL NETWORK IN THE PACKET. WE DIDN'T REALLY TOUCH ON THAT TONIGHT. COULD COULD YOU GUYS GOOD? SOME OF YOUR MEMBERS MAYBE SPEAK TO THE TRAIL NETWORK AND THE CONNECT THE KIND OF PROPOSED CONNECTIONS AND OR, UH, THINKING ABOUT THAT. YES SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY A TRAIL NETWORK IS IN THERE. SO THE TRAIL NETWORK ON THE WATKINS ROAD THE PORTIONS THAT WE TOUCH ON BOTH SIDES WILL HAVE TRAILS ON BOTH SIDES THAT HAVE IF WE OWN BOTH SIDES, OR IF WE'RE DEVELOPING BOTH SIDES, RHODEY WILL HAVE TRAILS ON BOTH SIDES OF IT GOING COMPLETELY THROUGH BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BUILD THAT, UM AND IT WILL COME THROUGH THIS. WE'VE ALSO MADE A COMMITMENT IN THAT TEXT THAT WE WOULD FIND A WAY BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER PORTIONS THAT ARE NOT SHOWN ON THIS MAP. THAT WILL BE AN EXTENT AND THOSE TRAILS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH. THROUGH THAT PROCESS. WE HAVE MADE A COMMITMENT IN THE TEXT. THAT WE WOULD HOOK IN THAT TRAIL SYSTEM TO BUXTON MEADOWS. THEY HAVE A FEW DEAD END ROADS JUST STUB ROADS FOR FUTURE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT. THOSE MIGHT PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY, ESPECIALLY WITH THE BUFFER THAT THEY KNOW HOW MANY COMPANY WAS GOING TO PROVIDE THERE. BUT RIGHT NOW, IF YOU LOOK OR TOUCH POINTS ARE TOUCHPOINTS TO WATKINS ROAD IS BRIEF, BUT WE'LL FIND A WAY TO GET THROUGH TO THAT TRAIL SYSTEM. ONE OTHER POINT, ALL THE INTERIOR ROADS WILL ALSO HAVE SIDEWALKS SO THAT'LL HELP GET PEOPLE OUT OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARTNER. THE INNOVATION PARK OUT TO THAT TRAIL SYSTEM. OKAY UM, THERE WERE COMMENT. A LOT OF COMMENTS TONIGHT ABOUT NOISE. WHAT IS OUR NOISE ORDINANCE? AND HOW DOES THAT COME INTO PLAY WHEN WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF ZONING? UM YOU KNOW, BORDERING EACH OTHER ONE BEING INDUSTRIAL ONE BEING OR MAYBE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING VERSUS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH, SO BASED ON OUR CODE, WE BASED IT ON THE DESK BOWL LEVELS, DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF DAY. UM WE HAVE A RANGE FROM SEVEN AM TO 10 PM AND THEN FROM 10 PM TO SEVEN AM AH, BASED ON OUR CODE, IT IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO RESIDENTIAL
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DISTRICTS OR OR MIXED USE OR MANUFACTURING DISTRICTS. WE DON'T CALL OUT JUST GENERAL RESIDENTIAL, UM, WITH BUCKS OF MEADOWS NOT BEING IN THE CITY. WE WILL WORK WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL TO DETERMINE WHICH CATEGORY WE WOULD LOOK AT, UM, MOST LIKELY, I THINK ALL THE RESIDENTIAL PRETTY MUCH ALL LUMPED INTO ONE CATEGORY, SO THEY HAVE SOUND LEVEL LIMITS OF DB A MAX IS 60 FROM SEVEN AM TO 10 PM AND THEN 10. PM TO SEVEN AM WOULD BE 50. UM, AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE THE SOUND LIMIT IN D. B. C S. AND THAT WOULD BE 70 FROM SEVEN AM TO 10 PM AND THEN 60 FROM 10. PM TO SEVEN AM, UM, FOR IF YOU'RE ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. SO IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S NOT LIKE SET THAT THAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO THIS, BUT BASED ON OUR BEST ESTIMATE OF HOW BOXING MEDALS WILL BE CLASSIFIED, YOU WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THOSE LIMITS, RIGHT? YES THERE'S UH, WOULD MOST LIKELY BE THE LIMITS? UM IF THOSE LIMITS HAD TO BE CHANGED, THEY COULD BE CHANGED IN THIS DEVELOPMENT TEXT THAT THE COUNCIL LEVEL OR IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION OF THE USE OF DESIGN REVIEW BOARD COULD PUT THAT AS A CONDITION AS WELL AS THEY LOOK AT, AND THEY EXCESSIVE NOISE, LIGHT OR OR OR ODOR OR ANYTHING COMING FROM THESE ARE DATA CENTERS COMPATIBLE WITH THOSE NOISE RESTRICTIONS. THANK YOU. I GUESS IN THIS AREA, THIS KIND OF BORDERING REGION SURE. COMMISSIONER HUNTER. THAT'S IT.NOBODY'S GONNA LIKE THIS ANSWER BECAUSE I KEEP DROPPING THINGS. NOBODY'S GONNA LIKE THIS ANSWER, BUT IT DEPENDS. IT DEPENDS ON THE ORIENTATION OF THE DATA CENTER BUILDING IN RELATION TO, UM AND A NEARBY RESIDENTIAL AREA. UM THE VEGETATION BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS IN THE DATA CENTER MAKES A DIFFERENCE. UM THE THAT OBVIOUSLY THE DISTANCE. JUST THE RAW DISTANCE MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
AND SO YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ONE OF THE CHALLENGES HERE AT LEAST KIND OF FOR TONIGHT IS YOU KNOW THAT WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WITHIN THIS 500 ACRES THE DAY A DATA CENTER SITE MAY BE LOCATED JUST AS WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE ROAD IS GOING TO GO. THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE.
THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK THROUGH IT. THIS OR ANY NUMBER OF PUBLIC BODIES FOR REVIEW.
WHAT I WILL DO IS EXPAND ON ERRANDS. COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT OUR EXPERIENCE IN NEW ALBANY.
I'VE LIVED WITH THESE DATA CENTERS NOW SINCE 2015 WHEN AMAZON FIRST DID THEIR FIRST PROJECT AWS, AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NOT HAD THOSE PUBLIC COMPLAINTS OF NOISE. UM I'M FAMILIAR WITH NORTHERN VIRGINIA. I'M CERTAINLY FAMILIAR WITH WITH THE OTHER LOCATION THAT WAS DISCUSSED, BUT I DON'T KNOW. UM YOU KNOW, THE I SIMPLY DON'T KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THE SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE IT ISN'T. BUT THE ANSWER IS DETERMINED BY REALLY TWO THINGS.
THE ENVIRONMENT THAT YOU'RE WORKING IN. AND THEN THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN. WHAT ON SITE MEDICS, SOUND MITIGATION EFFORTS ARE UNDERTAKEN, SO THAT'S PROBABLY NOT AN ADEQUATE ANSWER, BUT IN SHORT, THEY CAN UM, YOU GOTTA WORK AT IT. SO MY QUESTION IS PRIVATE. VERY BROAD. I JUST COMPATIBLE WITH THAT. AND I GUESS MAYBE MY QUESTION SHOULD BE, UH, WOULD THOSE STANDARDS ASSUMING WE IRONED IT OUT? WHAT IT IS, WOULD THEY HAVE TO BE MET? IF YOU KNOW PROJECT WERE TO GO INTO THERE, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IF THEY WOULD BE UNLESS A CHANGE WERE BE ADOPTED, CORRECT SO THEY WOULD NEED TO MEET THESE STANDARDS UNLESS THERE WAS A CHANGE IN THE DEVELOPMENT TEXT.
THAT WAS THE DIVERGENCE TO THESE OR IF THEY WENT THROUGH THE BZ, A AND SOMEHOW GOT A VARIANCE FOR THAT, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A HARDSHIP AND PROVE THAT, MR HUNTER. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND I WAS GOING TO POINT THAT OUT THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY RELIEF FROM THAT.
AND IN THE NEW ALBANY CONTEXT, THERE IS NO NO LEVEL OF SPECIFICITY IN THEIR CODE LIKE THIS. IT'S MORE OF A GENERAL STATEMENT. AND SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE RESULT THAT DECADE MENTIONED WITH, YOU KNOW VERY FEW, IF ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE NOISE WITHOUT HAVING A STANDARD LIKE THAT IN PLACE. SO WHAT? THE CITY STANDARD BEING PLACE EVEN FOR A RESIDENTS
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OUTSIDE THE CITY. WE SAY THAT FOR SURE. YES SO WE WOULD HAVE TO TALK WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, UM, WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT DETERMINE EXACTLY HOW WE WOULD HANDLE IT. BUT I MEAN, CAN WE MAKE THIS PART OF THE EU? DE? UM WHERE IS THAT A CITY COUNCIL? I MEAN, I COULD BE A SORRY THE CITY'S COUNCIL. YEAH I MEAN, IT COULD POSSIBLY BE A CONDITION OF IF THEY WANTED TO PUT THAT IN, OR IT COULD ALSO COME OUT AT THE DRB LEVEL. UM AS WELL AND THEN CITY COUNCIL COULD ALSO ONE AND TWO. BUT IT MIGHT HAPPEN MORE WITH CITY COUNCIL WHERE DRB DEPENDS ON AFTER TALKING WITH THE LEGAL COUNSEL AND HOW HE WOULD WANT TO HANDLE IT. OKAY? WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO HAVING A 60 DB? UM MAXIMUM. CHECK ANY RESIDENTS CURRENT RESIDENCE. BUT I THINK WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE INTERPRETATION OF THE CODE IS BEFORE YOU MAKE THAT COMMITMENT. AND WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT BETWEEN NOW AND COUNCIL. SO YOU KNOW, BUT LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY BUT HIS VIEW IS FIRST IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL LOOK INTO.■ AND UM, THREE OF OUR MEMBERS HERE ARE ON THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. SO WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE AWARE OF THAT. ALSO, AS THINGS COME FORWARD. CHRIS TAYLOR QUESTIONS COMMENTS. ONE MORE COMMENT. YES, MR UNDER THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS MADE REGARDING THE COMP PLAN, AND WE DID. I THINK IT IS ONE OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS MAYBE SEPTEMBER MEETING. WE DID SHOW THAT ON THE SCREEN AND IT IS PART OF THE PACKET. AND IN THIS AREA, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SHOW IT OR PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN. THERE WAS A PRINT OUT. ONE OF THE MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE HERE HELD UP AND I THINK IT HIGHLIGHTED. THE COLORS WERE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I WAS FAMILIAR WITH. AND I JUST WONDER IF WE PUT THAT UP ON THE SCREEN. AND JUST KIND OF I HAVEN'T MET WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT REGARDING THAT, AND I THINK THERE WAS A PLAN COMMISSION MEMBER WHO ALSO KIND OF INTERPRETATION OF THAT HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SKETCH PLAN TIMING. UM BUT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. AND I UNDERSTAND COM PLAN TO BE A GUIDELINE GENERAL SCHEME OF KIND OF FART, BUT IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT LOCKED INTO A LINE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT? IT'S JUST IDEOLOGY OF HOW THIS MIGHT DEVELOP IN THE FUTURE. UM. SO IN THIS AREA, YOU HAVE THE PURPLE THAT DOES GO ALONG. THE 33. AND YOU DO HAVE A YELLOW UM, BUT THAT LINE WHERE THE PURPOSE OF THE PURPLE THE INDUSTRIAL AND THEN THE YELLOW WOULD BE. I THINK RESIDENTIAL SRD TYPE ZONING THEY BORDER EACH OTHER.BUT THAT LINE IN ACCOMPLISHING MY INTERPRETATION, AT LEAST THE LINE ISN'T FIXED. IT'S A KIND OF A CONCEPT OF HOW THIS WILL BE DEVELOPED. YOU HAVE INDUSTRIAL LIGHT MANUFACTURING THAT WOULD BORDER RESIDENTIAL, BILLY SAYS. MY INTERPRETATION SO, MR HUNTER. GREAT POINT, SO BACK WHEN WE DID THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE THAT LINE WHERE YOU SEE THE BORDER THAT WAS A HYPOTHETICAL INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY TYPE ROADWAY ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF 33. SO THAT'S HOW THAT LINE GAP DRAWN AT THAT LOCATION. BASICALLY THIS NEW ROADWAY THERE'S WALKING AROUND, BYPASSED. ULTIMATELY SERVES KIND OF AS THAT NEW LINE, SO IT'S GOING TO SHIFT A LITTLE BIT, TOO. THEN THEY'RE WORTH LIKE YOU SAID. IT'S KIND OF JUST A GUIDE. BUT THAT WAS THE REASON. I GUESS THE BACKGROUND STORY BEHIND WHERE THAT DEMARCATION GOT PUT A NO FURTHER COMMENTS. THANKS. OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. RIGHT SO WITH THAT, UM DO WE HAVE A MOTION? FOUR. ANY MOTION MOTION FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A REAL CALL, PLEASE. MR STILIAN. MR. NICHOLSON YES.
SERVICE YES, MR WALDMAN. IT'S YES, MR HUNTER? YES. ALL RIGHT PAST THIS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
THAT MOVES US ON TO DISCUSSION ITEMS. TOGETHER REASON DISCUSSION ITEMS FOR THIS
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EVENING. AH INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS THEN SO IT'S I HAVE DONE. SERVICE. NONE. MR[01:20:14]
HUNTER. THIS WILL BE MY LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEANING MEETING. I BELIEVE I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT THE MEETING ON MONDAY WAS A YOUNG LADY WHO HAD INTRODUCED HERSELF. UM, I'M SURE YOU GUYS WHO LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HER SEEMS VERY KIND AND EXPERIENCED AND BUT THE LAST TWO YEARS FOR MYSELF, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE SERVING WITH YOU. AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO FUTURE COLLABORATION, AND I'M ALSO TOO APPRECIATIVE OF CITIZENS COMING IN VOICING YOUR CONCERNS, EVERY SINGLE CONCERN THAT'S BEEN SPOKEN. I THINK WE LISTENED TO INTENTLY AND I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT THOSE VERY THOROUGHLY SO I APPRECIATE THE PARTICIPATION TONIGHT. THAT'S IT. THANKS. MR STILYAN AT THIS TIME, SIR. AND THEN I WANT TO THANK MR HUNTER FOR HIS TIME AND EXPERIENCE AND, UM, ON THIS COUNCIL AND BEST OF LUCK CITY COUNCIL MEMBER UM, ALSO ECHO ECHO. MR. HUNTER'S, UM REMARKS OF WE DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS LIKE WE HEAR THAT SOUND IS DEFINITELY AN ISSUE, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN IF LEGALLY ABLE TO ENFORCE, UM WILL BE CONSCIOUS OF AS THE PROCESS MOVES FORWARD. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. THANK YOU.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.