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EVENING. IT IS TUESDAY MAY 7TH 2024 630. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER DO WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. PAGE LOUD. HERE. BRETT INGLE. HERE. MATTHEW FISHER. MICHAEL NICKERSON. LESLIE VERBS. CHAD WOLOWITZ. ROB STILL IN STILL THANK YOU. UH,
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FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES FROM THE APRIL 16TH MEETING. UH, HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE MINUTES? AND ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS CONCERNS REVISIONS. SEE THERE. THERE WAS A MISSPELLING OF A CITIZEN'S NAME, BUT I CAN FIX THAT OFFLINE. OK? YEAH. IF YOU COULD FORWARD THAT GET THAT UPDATED. NOTHING ELSE. UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVED THE MEETING MINUTES. MOTION TO APPROVE. THANK YOU, SIR. ALL IN FAVOR SAY I OPPOSE SAME THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM IS THE SWEARING IN OF CITIZENS AND APPLICANTS. SO IF[SWEARING OF CITIZENS & APPLICANTS]
YOU ARE HERE, AND YOU THINK THAT THERE IS A REMOTE CHANCE YOU MAY STAND UP AND SPEAK IN FRONT OF US TODAY, UH, WHICH IS ASKED THAT YOU STAND UP. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. I WILL READ OFF AN OATH AND YOU WILL SIGNAL BY SAYING I WILL. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU DECLARE THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH AND HOLD TRUTH UNDER THE PAINS AND PENALTY OF PERJURY AND FALSIFICATION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS POINT IN THE MEETING. WE[CITIZEN COMMENTS]
ARE, UM CITIZEN COMMENTS. SO IF THERE ARE ANY CITIZENS HERE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION, THIS WILL BE ON A NON AGENDA ITEM. SO IF YOU'RE HERE FOR ONE OF THE THREE AGENDA ITEMS YOU THERE WILL BE TIME AT THAT POINT, UH, TO COMMENT, BUT IF THERE'S ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON A NON AGENDA ITEM, UH, THE WILL BE YOUR OPPORTUNITY. YOU HAVE UP TO FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK. YES. SO PLEASE, JUST STATE YOUR NAME YOUR ADDRESS, AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. BIG GUYS DOING CARLTON DEAN HERE WITH THEIR WAY SOLUTIONS, AND WE ARE A NEW MEDICAL WASTE COMPANY THAT JUST RELOCATED TO MARYSVILLE FROM WESTERVILLE. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE IN THE CITY.UM, WE RECEIVED IMPACT FUNDING FROM THE STATE OF OHIO TO MOVE TO A RURAL COUNTY AND TO CREATE JOBS IN THE STATE. I AM HERE, UH , REPRESENTING OUR COMPANY, AND DAVE SELLS, WHO OWNS 14 7-ELEVEN INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY, WHICH IS A NEW BUILDING THAT IS GOING UP AND IT'S I THINK IT'LL BE COMPLETE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS HERE, BUT WE ARE REQUESTING FOR A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT TO BE MADE TO PERMIT NON HAZARDOUS WASTE. UH TREATMENT TO THE MANUFACTURING INNOVATION DISTRICT LIST OF PERMANENT USES. OK? THANK YOU. AND SO I'M GONNA HAVE TO ASK THE PROCESS BECAUSE I ALWAYS FORGET. UH SO ZONING TEXT AMENDMENTS CAN ONLY BE INITIATED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL. SO IF THERE IS A PROPERTY OWNER OR A BUSINESS OWNER THAT HAS A USE THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY DEFINED. OR LISTED AS PERMITTED OR CONDITIONAL ON THE ZONING CODE, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER FOR HOPE CENTER LAST YEAR AT THE AT THE FAIRGROUNDS APPLICANT CAN COME TO THE CITIZEN COMMENTS MEETING. MAKE THAT REQUEST THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDER THAT ZONING TEST TEXT AMENDMENT AND THEN, UH, BE UP TO THE PERMISSION TO, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT CONSIDERATION. OK, UM IS THAT CONDITIONAL USE TO FIND IN ARIZONA. IT IS NOT CURRENTLY DEFINED, WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE HERE TODAY, SO WE WOULD NEED TO DEFINE IT. AND THEN, UM, APPROVE IT TO. I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS THE, UH, THE PROPERTY ZONED AS IT'S IN THE UM, MANUFACTURING INNOVATION CENTER DISTRICT. I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE REQUESTING FOR IT IN THE PIONEER FLEXIBILITY AND THIS IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
OK? UM. ALL RIGHT. SO IF WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT UM IS IT A VOTE AT THIS TIME? OR IS IT UH, WE NEED TO DEFINE ONE OF US HAS TO PRESENT THE REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING, OK? OK, GENERALLY WORK THAT OFFLINE WITH YEAH, YEAH. UM ALL RIGHT. WELL I MEAN, I, I WOULD VOLUNTEER TO WORK, UM, OFFLINE WITH THE CITY TO, UM TO WORK ON THAT TEXT. UM TO BRING FORWARD TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THEN DECIDE. UM SO THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT,
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ANY OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK ON A NON AGENDA ITEM? SEE NONE. WE WILL MOVE ON TO REPORT OF THE ADMINISTRATION. WE HAVE NONE AT THIS TIME. AND THAT LEADS US INTO A NEW BUSINESS.[1. To hear an application for a Conditional Use Application for personal services located at 240 W 5th Street with a Parcel number of 2900070690000 and Zoned as Uptown Transitional.]
FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO HEAR AN APPLICATION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION FOR PERSONAL SERVICES LOCATED AT 240 WEST FIFTH STREET WITH A PARCEL NUMBER OF 2900070. AND IS ZONED AS UPTOWN TRANSIT. TRANSITIONAL UH, DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE? WANT TO SPEAK. YOU COULD GO FOR, SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. JUST GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON UM WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING. HI I'M STEPHANIE CUNNINGHAM. WITH REVELATION. YOU RE IN WELL BEING AND A BUSINESS THAT'S BEEN IN MARYSVILLE FOR SIX YEARS, AND FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS, IT'S JUST BEEN ME. UH, AND IN A SMALL OFFICE, UH, DOING REIKI AND, UH, PERSONAL COACHING LIFE COACHING AND I'M LOOKING TO EXPAND. UH, THE SERVICES THAT I OFFER THE MISSION OF THE COMPANY IS TO HELP PEOPLE BETTER UNDERSTAND WHO THEY ARE AND HOW THEY WORK SO THEY CAN CREATE A LIFE THAT FEELS DEEPLY SATISFYING TO THEM. SO WE'RE ALL ABOUT HELPING PEOPLE IMPROVE THEIR OVERALL HEALTH AND WELL BEING THROUGH MODALITIES LIKE REIKI MASSAGE REFLEXOLOGY. UM, WE'LL ALSO DO SMALL YOGA CLASSES AND MEDITATION AS WELL AS UM, WORKSHOPS THAT ARE FOCUSED ON PERSONAL AND SELF AWARENESS, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO RIGHT NOW. I'M LOOKING AT THE STREET VIEW OF THE BUILDING IS THAT BUILDING BROKEN UP INTO TWO BUSINESSES OR ARE YOU TAKING OVER? I'M SURE THE STATE FARM BUILDING THAT'S WHERE I YES. YES IT IS BROKEN INTO TWO BUSINESSES . THERE'S A SUITE A AND A SUITE B AND WE WOULD BE GOING INTO SWEET. A, UM SO THERE IS A SIGN OUT FRONT. UM, THOUGH IF THEY ARE IF YOU ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A NEW SIGN THAT WOULD COME FOR DESIGN REVIEW BOARD CORRECTLY. TH THIS WILL JUST BE A FACE CHANGE BECAUSE THERE'S CURRENTLY A SIGN THAT HAS TWO PANELS AND THEY'RE GOING TO REPLACE ONE OF THE PANELS.FIVE MINUTES. APOLOGIZE THAT TIME, SO THIS WILL BE A FACE CHANGE THAT WILL GO THROUGH A FAST TRACK APPLICATION FOR THAT SIGN BECAUSE THEY'LL JUST BE PLACED REPLACING THE BOTTOM PANEL. ON THIS. ALL RIGHT. SO I SEE IN, UM STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS IS TO ADD, UM UH, LANDSCAPING AROUND. UM, THAT SIGN WHICH I ASSUME IS UM MORE SO THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING PROBABLY WOULD NEED TO DO, BUT, UM IT SEEMED AS IF THAT COULD BE A CONDITION UPON THE APPROVAL.
CORRECT. SO SO WE MAY REQUIRE LANDSCAPING, BUT TO, YOU KNOW, WORK OUT WITH THE, UH, THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING AS FAR AS HOW THAT GETS INSTALLED, UM OK, THERE WE GO. ARE YOU OPEN TO ADDING, UH, LANDSCAPING AROUND THE SITE, WHICH WOULD BRING IT UP TO CURRENTS. UM SIGNAGE. I HAVE TWO OK? ALL RIGHT. UM, WELL, IF YOU'D LIKE TO I AS PART OF THE APPLICATION. SO II I THINK THIS WILL BE THE TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK IF YOU WANNA UM, GO UP TO THE PODIUM. NAME. ADDRESS.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? YES OK, I ASK A QUESTION. SURE COULD YOU? UH, I'M UNFAMILIAR WITH YOUR WHAT? YOU GET WHAT YOU DO, AND I'VE NEVER EVEN HEARD OF YOU. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. SO I WAS WONDERING, CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT OF LIKE, WHAT KIND OF SERVICE YOU I KNOW, YOU BRIEFLY SAID YOU YOUR COACHING SERVICES. BUT LIKE AT A TYPICAL DAY, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU SEE OR AND WHAT TYPE OF TRAFFIC IMPACT WOULD THAT HAVE AT THIS LOCATION ? YEAH. SO I'M ASSUMING A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVEN'T HEARD OF REIKI. ROOM SO I CAN DO A BRIEF, UM, SYNOPSIS OF THAT. SO REIKI IS A JAPANESE TECHNIQUE FOR STRESS AND PAIN RELIEF. IT JUST USES LIGHT TOUCH OR NO TOUCH ON VARIOUS AREAS OF THE BODY TO GET YOUR BODY BACK TO THE POINT OF RELAXATION, WHERE IT CAN HEAL ITSELF, SO IT ACTIVATES THE PURE , SYMPATHETIC NERVOUS SYSTEM AND OUR SELF HEALING CAPABILITIES LIKE SLEEP, DIGESTION, CIRCULATION, IMMUNE, HEALTH. ALL THOSE THINGS WE LIKE TO KICK OUT OF BALANCE ON, YOU KNOW OUR EVERYDAY LIFE, SO THAT'S WHAT IT IS, UM, IT'S KIND OF LIKE HANDS.
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MEDITATION IS WHAT I CAN LIKEN IT AS UM, SOMEONE COMES IN, UM I HAVE A MASSAGE TABLE THAT THEY LAY ON FULLY CLOTHED AND I YOU TOUCHED THEIR HAND THEIR NECK, THEIR ARMS, LEGS, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT, UM WE'RE DOING IN THERE . NOTHING TOO CRAZY. UM AND THEN , UM, SORRY. WHAT WAS THE OTHER QUESTION? OH, A TYPICAL DAY, SO I USUALLY SEE IN THE CURRENT PRACTICE THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW, I SEE. SAY 3 TO 4 CLIENTS EVERY TIME I'M IN MY OFFICE, WHICH IS ABOUT THREE DAYS A WEEK, AND SO I'M LOOKING TO EXPAND THAT, OBVIOUSLY, WITH DIFFERENT PRACTITIONERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THERE SO I WOULD EXPECT SAY. THERE ARE THREE PRACTITIONERS IN THERE. THEY MIGHT SEE ONE CLIENT EVERY HOUR ON AVERAGE. UM SO THAT'S SO YOU THINKING THERE'LL BE THREE ADDITIONAL PRACTITIONERS BESIDE YOURSELF? IS THAT THE THEY'LL PROBABLY BE THREE PRACTITIONERS WORKING. YEAH AND, UH, WHAT TYPE OF THE EXCUSE ME. SO ARE THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE USING REGULAR CARS? I ASSUME, OR IS IT PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC OR YOU DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. I. I DEPENDS ON WHERE THEY LIVE, I GUESS. YEAH. AND THEN I DID HAVE A QUESTION BEING UNFAMILIAR WITH THE STATE FARM BUILDING IF IT WAS 88 COMPLIANT AND WHETHER, UM IT HAD ACCESSIBILITY. THAT BUILDING. I BELIEVE IT DOES. THERE'S A RAMP GOING UP TO THE INSIDE HISTORIC. IT'S LIKE 250. DOES IT HAVE A AN ACCESSIBLE RAMP OR AND NOT AT THIS TIME? AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT'S NEVER BEEN UPDATED TO BE. OK? OK? JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, PROBABLY MORE TOWARDS STAFF. UM WITH THE ADDITION OF GROUP CLASSES. UM, IS IT BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A SMALL PORTION OF THEIR BUSINESS AND OR REVENUE THAT WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT AS PART OF ZONING OK? CAUSE THAT'S NOT EVEN A PERMITTED USE IN THIS IN THIS AREA. YEAH IT'S SIMILAR TO. UM, I THINK YOU MENTIONED YOU MIGHT HAVE A CHIROPRACTOR THAT COMES THERE FROM TIME TO TIME, AND I TALK TO OUR LAW DIRECTOR ABOUT THAT, IF IT'S A SMALLER PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL USE OF PERSONAL SERVICES , IT'S INCIDENTAL TO THE PRINCIPAL USE. THEN IT FALLS UNDER THAT PRINCIPLE. USE OF THE PERSONAL SERVICES. SO JUST FROM A BUSINESS MODEL STANDPOINT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND LIKE THEY CAN'T KIND OF MIGRATE INTO BEING A YOGA STUDIO. OH, YEAH? YEAH. MHM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. THEY NOT SEEN THAT'S MOVE TO THE THANK YOU. SIR. GOOD NAME AND ADDRESS. UM MARK HANSEN . UH, 18 300 BURGER ROAD IN MARYSVILLE. UM I OWN THE BUILDING AT 240, WEST FIFTH UH, 96 GRADUATE OF MARYSVILLE HIGH SCHOOL. MY DAD WAS THE PRINCIPAL. IT WAS AS FUN AS IT SOUNDS HAVING YOUR DAD COOL. UH, I LEFT MARYSVILLE AT 18 RETURNED 20 YEARS LATER WITH A FAMILY OF FIVE. MY CHILDREN ALL ATTEND THE SCHOOLS HERE AND MY WIFE IS MARY'S LITTLE FAMOUS. UM I AGREED TO RELEASE THE TENANT. FROM HER NEW LEASE IN THE EVENT. THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. UM FOR THE SPACE IS NOT APPROVED. SO HOPEFULLY HER APPLICATION WILL BE APPROVED. BUT, UM I HOPE IT'LL BE EVALUATED BASED ON THE YOU KNOW, APPLICATION AND QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS AND, UM NOT NECESSARILY ENTANGLED WITH THE LANDSCAPE REQUESTS OF THE SIGN. FROM THE CITY, WHICH I HEARD MIGHT BE THE CASE SOUNDS LIKE IT. MIGHT BE THE CASE. UM REGARDING THE SIGNAGE, UM, PERMIT. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE CITY APPROVING HER, LIKE ICONOGRAPHY. UM I WAS TOLD THE CITY MIGHT REQUIRE LANDSCAPE PLANTS OR AS MUCH AS 50 SQUARE FEET OF LANDSCAPING. IS A CONDITION TO APPROVING HER USE OF THE SPACE. THAT FEELS A LITTLE BIT TO ME, LIKE SORT OF THE UNFAIR. HOSTAGE SITUATION. UM I THINK THE SIGN LOOKS REALLY GOOD ALREADY. YOU KNOW, THE[00:15:06]
FRAME IS FRESHLY PAINTED. THE QUALITY IS REALLY GOOD. THE COLORS MATCH THE BUILDING. IT'S CLEAN. IT'S IN GREAT CONDITION. IT IS A LOW CLEARANCE SIGN. ANY PLANTS AROUND IT. I THINK WE DEFINITELY OBSCURE IT EVEN WITH LOW HEIGHT PLANTS. AND GIVEN THE SIZE OF IT, UM IF YOU LAID OUT A 50 SQUARE FOOT, UH, BED. I THINK IT WOULD LOOK PRETTY RIDICULOUS. UM HOPEFULLY, WE CAN IF PLANT LIFE IS CRITICAL TO THIS, UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIND SOMETHING LIKE SIZE APPROPRIATE AND NOT AND DO. BURDEN. UM I'VE BEEN A ENTREPRENEUR. ONLY MY COMPANY. UH, MY EMPLOYER WENT OUT OF BUSINESS LAST YEAR, SO I'VE BEEN LIKE BEEN LIVING OFF OF MY YOU KNOW, SELF EMPLOYED ENTREPRENEURIAL VENTURES FOR THE LAST YEAR. SO, UM, DEFINITELY CONCERNED ABOUT YOU KNOW? COSTS THAT MAY NOT BE ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED. UM, BUT DEFINITELY OPEN TO TALKING ABOUT THINGS.MAYBE. ME IN THE MIDDLE. I SUPPORT THE UH, 10 AND YOU LEAN BACK, SO IT SEEMED LIKE MAYBE YOU TWO COMMENTS. UM SO I GUESS THE STAFF UM OR ARE YOU RECOMMENDING THAT IT'S AN ABSOLUTE REQUIREMENT FOR AS OK. IT WAS A SUGGESTION TO BRING IT UP TO THE SIGNAGE, AND IT IS UP TO US TO DECIDE. UM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE REST OF THE BOARD OR FEELINGS ON THE MATTER OF THE LANDSCAPING? WHAT'S THE LENGTH OF THE SIGN RIGHT NOW? OH, THERE YOU GO. SO IT'S 6 FT. LONG. I MEAN, I WILL AGREE. WHEN I FIRST SAW IT. IT'S IT IS LOW TO THE GROUND. UM NOT THAT THERE ISN'T PLANTING THAT YOU COULD DO TO KEEP IT THAT LOW. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. A AT WHAT? UM, BENEFIT. UM MAYBE EXTENDING THE LENGTH AND PUTTING THE PLANT AT EACH END. I THINK IF YOU PUT IT ON THE FACE SIDE, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM. AND MAKING IT SEVEN BY SEVEN SQUARE. WOULD LOOK, UM, IN MY OPINION. I'M NOT A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, THOUGH. AND THERE'S NO SIGNAGE ON THE BUILDING. RIGHT? SO I MEAN, THIS IS THIS IS IT AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, SIGNAGE GOES, YEAH. WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD HAVE A OPINION THOUGHT ON. IF YOU ZOOM OUT, GET A FULL VIEW. YES. SO FLOWERS WOULDN'T HURT THE FRONT. MEAN SOMETHING WOULD BE BETTER THAN NOTHING RIGHT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE WITH WHITE STONE. AROUND. THE SIGN. AND, UH, ANY NO PLANS AT THE FRONT PORCH. SIDE PORCH. WE DID INSTALL, UM, SOME FLOWER BOXES. UM I THINK THIS IS JUST AN OLDER PICTURE. UM THERE'S NO FLOWERS IN THEM YET, BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE UP. WHEN THE PORCH ARE ON THE SIDE. UNDER THE WINDOWS. OF THE OF THE, UH FRONT OF THE BUILDING. RIGHT. ANYONE FEEL STRONGLY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I MEAN, I I'M MORE THAN ONE SAY I. I GUESS WE ENCOURAGE UM, UH, PLANTING, UM, TO BRIGHTEN UP THAT SIGN. UM ALSO AGREE THAT SHOULDN'T BE CONTINGENT UPON WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US. UM WE ALWAYS LIKE TO SEE PLANTS AND FLOWERS. AND YOU KNOW, UM HOPE THAT, UH, SOMEDAY THAT GETS ADDED, I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, BUT UM EVERYONE ELSE THINKS DIFFERENTLY. WE DO HAVE ALL THE BEDS. UH, DONE BY, UH WOMAN'S TOUCH LANDSCAPING EVERY YEAR AND YOU KNOW, TRIMMED UP AND YEAH, THIS IS A LATE FALL OR EARLY SPRING FALL. THERE'S NO IT WAS A MARCH 2023. SO SPRING YOU'RE HERE. DO YOU GUYS DO ANNUAL PLANS? UH, NO, I EVERYTHING I PLANT DIES, SO I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S ANOTHER CONCERN. ANYWAY, THAT WAS ALL OF MY ONE QUESTION.
SO IS IT ASSUMED THAT THE TENANT'S GOING TO GO IN AND USE THE SPACE AS IS THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY RENOVATIONS TO THE EXISTING OK, DOES EXISTING BUILDING ALRIGHT. SO I DON'T
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FEEL LIKE PLANTS SHOULD BE A REALLY PLANNING COMMISSION. GREAT, SIR. OF ZONING APPROVES.WE SHOULD OKAY? ALRIGHT THANK YOU, SIR. UH SO AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN UP TO, UM SUSAN COMMENTS IF THERE'S ANY CITIZENS HERE, UH, WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. YOU HAVE UP TO FIVE MINUTES. SEEN NONE. WHAT IS THE WILL OF THE BOARD? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE SORRY. I DON'T WANT TO, ANYWAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, OK? WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. SORRY. UM MISTER ENGEL? YES. MR FISHER. MISS LAU? YES. MR STILLION. MR NICKERSON. YES. MISS VERBS? YES. MR WOLOWITZ. THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE TIME.
CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO HEAR AN APPLICATION
[2. To hear an application for a Final Plat for Amrine Meadows Section 1 Phase 2 located along State Route 31 & Amrine-Wood Road and Zoned as Suburban Residential District.]
FOR A FINAL PLANT FOR MRI MEADOWS SECTION ONE PHASE TWO LOCATED ALONG STATE ROUTE 31 IN THE MRI WOOD ROAD AND ZONED AS SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. UH DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE TO SPEAK? NAME ADDRESS, AND THE FLOOR IS YOURS. OK, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS NICKY MARTIN. PULTE HOMES. UH, 475 METRO PLACE SOUTH. DUBLIN OHIO. UH, 43016. GOOD EVENING.APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR NEXT FINAL PLOT FOR AMRY MEADOWS. UM, SO THIS IS SECTION ONE PHASE TWO, WHICH IS AN ADDITIONAL 47 LOTS, UM, SIMILAR TO, UH, SECTION ONE. PHASE ONE.
IT'S A MIXTURE OF 55. AND 66 FT. LOTS UM AND STAFF OR SORRY. UH, WE HAVE REVIEWED STAFFS.
COMMENTS UM, AND ARE ACCEPTING OF THE CHANGES REQUESTED BY THE CITY ENGINEER AND HAVE CLARIFIED SOME MINOR CHANGES, UH, BETWEEN THE PRELIMINARY PLOT, AND TODAY, UH, WITH PLANNING STAFF SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE UM I DID NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE REST OF THE WORLD PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD TO ME. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE INTO CITIZEN COMMENTS AND CITIZENS HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM YOU HAVE UP TO FIVE MINUTES. I'M JUST LOOKING IN THAT CORNER. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. SEE NONE. UH, WHAT IS THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAN A SECOND SECOND MR ST REAL CALL, PLEASE. MR ENGLE? YES. MR FISHER. MS LAU? YES. STILLION MR NICHOLSON. MS VERBS? YES. MR WOLOWITZ? YES. GREAT. AND SO FAST. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA TODAY IS TO HEAR AN APPLICATION FOR A ZONING CODE
[3. To hear an application for a Zoning Code Amendment to Part Eleven - Zoning Code, Section 1123 - Generally Applicable District.]
AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE SECTION 1123. GENERALLY APPLICABLE DISTRICT. SO THAT IS STAFF, UM, PRESENTING ON SOME ZONING AMENDMENTS, UH, RELATED TO FARM ANIMALS. UM SO WE WERE REQUESTED BY CITY COUNCIL TO, UM, BEGIN RESEARCHING OUR CURRENT FARM ANIMAL CODE AND LOOKING AT MAYBE POTENTIAL MODIFICATIONS AND WHAT SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE ARE DOING RELATED TO SMALL FARM ANIMALS. UM SO, ZACH, UH, TOOK THE INITIATIVE AND BEGAN THAT TASK.AND SO WE'VE PRESENTED TO A COUPLE BOARDS. UM PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE, UH, COUNCIL WORK SESSION AND THEN BACK TO PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE. SO WE'RE HERE TONIGHT A PLANNING COMMISSION TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE CODE CHANGES THAT WE'VE COMPILED TO DATE AND, UH GET YOUR INPUT AND, UM, PROCEED TO CITY COUNCIL. IF EVERYONE FEELS LIKE, UH, WE'RE AT A POINT TO DO THAT. SO ZACH WILL RUN THROUGH THE PRESENTATION FOR YOU GUYS AND WALK THROUGH ALL THOSE AMENDMENTS AND WE CAN TALK THROUGH THOSE AS WE GO. THANKS, AISLING. UM YOU HAVE TO IF YOU
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WANT TO PASS IT DOWN. OK SO LIKE ASHLEY MENTIONED, UH, CITY COUNCIL ASKED US TO LOOK INTO, UM WHAT WE ALLOW WHAT WE DON'T ALLOW FOR FARM ANIMALS WITHIN WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS BASED ON SOME FEEDBACK, THAT, UH, SEVERAL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL GOT FROM THEIR CONSTITUENTS, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THOSE. WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE BACKGROUND. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, AND THEN ANY QUESTIONS AT THE END. SO, UM HAVE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET TO THE END. FEEL FREE TO CHECK IN.OK? OVER THE LAST, UM LIKE A YEAR AND A HALF. NOW WE'VE RECEIVED COMPLAINTS AND INQUIRIES. LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, HEY, I AM I ALLOWED TO HAVE CHICKENS IN MY BACKYARD. ARE MY NEIGHBORS ALLOWED TO HAVE THEM? AND THE ANSWER IS YES. AS LONG AS YOU KEEP THEM ON YOUR PROPERTY AND CLEAN UP AFTER THEM. UM RIGHT NOW THAT ENFORCEMENT GOES THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND I GUESS YOU GUYS CAN IMAGINE OUR POLICE OFFICERS PROBABLY HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN CHASING CHICKENS AROUND SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD. UM SO CITY COUNCIL ASKED US TO LOOK INTO WHAT OTHER CITIES DO. JUST TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE GOOD PLACE THEY'VE RECEIVED, UH, RELATING FROM OR ANYTHING FROM NOISE FROM ROOSTERS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, IN WHAT PARTICULAR CASE MINIATURE HORSES BEING KEPT ON A ON A TYPICALLY SIZED RESIDENTIAL LOT IN IN MILL VALLEY. UH, BASED ON OUR RESEARCH THERE, THERE SEEMS TO BE A DESIRE FROM THE PUBLIC TO ALLOW THE KEEPING OF SOME SMALL FARM ANIMALS. BUT RESTRICT , UM YOU KNOW, LARGER FARM ANIMALS FROM BEING KEPT KEPT ON. UH UH. WHAT WE ARE CALLING A TYPICALLY SIZED RESIDENTIAL LOT, WHICH IS A 60 BY 120. TYPICALLY, THAT RANGES DEPENDING ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S NOT, UH. UH PROCESS TO DATE, SO WE MET INITIALLY WITH A COUPLE OF CONCERNED CITIZENS AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE COMMITTEE IN NOVEMBER. UM PUT TOGETHER SOME DOCUMENTS TO THAT CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION. BACK TO PUBLIC, UH, PUBLIC SERVICE SAFETY SERVICE COMMITTEE. UH, AT THE MARCH MEETING WITH PUBLIC SERVICE SAFETY SERVICE, UH, COUNCILMAN STEPHEN WOLF ASKED US AND, UM SCOTT HUNTER ASKED US TO REACH OUT TO SOME OF THE AGRICULTURE GROUPS LIKE F, FA AND 4H. I THINK WE HAVE SOME MEMBERS HERE TONIGHT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, UH, AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. UH, JUST TO DISCUSS ANY, UH, NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES THAT WE MIGHT HAVE BY RESTRICTING FARM ANIMALS COMPLETELY TO THOSE STUDENTS THAT PARTICIPATE IN THOSE GROUPS. OUR GOALS, BUT THE NEW ZONING CODE BE TO ACHIEVE THE FOLLOWING BE ESTABLISHED STANDARDS FOR PERMITTED AND PERMITTED AND PROHIBITED FARM ANIMALS. ESTABLISH A NON CONFORMING STATUS HER GRANDFATHER GRANDFATHER CLAUSE FOR EXISTING FARM ANIMALS IN THE CITY. UM, AND ESTABLISH EXEMPTIONS FOR STUDENTS THAT PARTICIPATE IN UH UH, AGRICULTURE GROUP ACTIVITIES LIKE 4H F FA FAIR. AND ADDITIONALLY, IT WOULD ALSO GIVE US A MECHANISM FOR ENFORCEMENT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT PROPER BEING KEPT ACCORDING TO THE WHAT THIS ZONING CODE WOULD BE IN OUR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE. THAT'S WHAT I. OK, UH, SO NOW WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED ZONING CODE CAN GET THROUGH THIS SECTION BY SECTION. LIMITED FARM ANIMAL RESTRICTIONS. WOULD, UM ALLOW FOR SMALL FARM ANIMALS. OUT OF THE DEFINITION THAT WE WOULD THAT WE WOULD HAVE IN THIS CODE TO DEFINE SMALL FARM ANIMALS. UM THAT ARE RAISED FOR FOOD OR PRODUCTION OF FOOD OR THE OPERATION OF PHARMA IS NOT DANGEROUS TO WILD ANIMAL DEFINED BY THE HIGHER CODE, AND THEN JUST SOME PICTURES OF WHAT, UM, EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE COULD BE WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED AS A SMALL FARM ANIMAL? PROHIBITIVE FARM ANIMALS WOULD BE ANY LARGE ANIMAL GENERALLY HOOK ANIMALS. IN ADDITION TO ROOSTERS, GEESE OR TURKEYS THAT WOULD BE PROHIBITED ON SMALLER PARCELS OF LESS THAN AN ACRE IN SIZE, BUT ON LARGER PARCELS THERE WOULD BE PROVISIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR SOME OF THOSE LARGER FARM ANIMALS. HO ANIMALS WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED IN AGRICULTURAL DISTRICTS RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. OR UM, IT COULD BE A MANUFACTURING DISTRICT OR A DIFFERENT DISTRICT. BUT THERE'S AN ESTABLISHED FARM THERE THEY WOULD FALL UNDER THAT LEGAL, NON CONFORMING STATUS. A SLIDE. THIS E WOULD CALL A TYPICALLY SIZED RESIDENTIAL LOT WITHIN A SUBDIVISION AND THIS IS GOING TO ESTABLISH A NUMBER OF
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SMALL FARM ANIMALS. YOU'D BE ALLOWED TO KEEP UM, IT WOULD BE SIX OR TYPICALLY, IT'S GONNA BE AROUND SIX. IT'S BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF YOUR PARCEL. SO ONE FOR EVERY 1200 SQUARE FEET OF AREA, WHICH EQUALS ABOUT SIX AND IT'S GOING TO BE EITHER SIX CHICKENS OR SIX RABBITS OR THREE CHICKENS. THREE RABBITS IS ANY COMBINATION THEREOF, BUT NO MORE THAN SIX TOTAL ANIMALS.LOCATION PERMISSION. SO THIS GREEN AREA, UM IS GONNA BE WHERE NO COUPS OR CAGES OR OTHER ENCLOSURES ARE PERMITTED. THAT'S THE REAR INSIDE SET BACK. UM SO THEY COULD HAVE THE UM, ANY STRUCTURES ASSOCIATED WITH KEEPING ANIMALS IN THIS ORANGE AREA AND THEN AS LONG AS THE REAR YARD IS FENCED, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE YOUR CHICKENS, RABBITS, DUCKS, GUINEA HENS, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE IN THEIR REAR YARD ONLY, UM, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE IN FRONT OF THE OR IN THE SIDE OR FRONT OF THE HOUSE WILL BE PROHIBITED. JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF COUPS, CAGES, ENCLOSURES OR FENCES. SABBATH WE'RE GONNA ESTABLISH SOME PARAMETERS FOR UM MINIMUM AREA REQUIRED FOR CHICKEN OR FOR ANIMAL. SORRY AND, UM MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR SAFETY AS FAR AS KEEPING THEM SAFE FROM PREDATORS OR OR DOGS. THAT MIGHT, UM HARM THEM. LACK OF A BETTER WORD.
PERMITS. UM STRUCTURES ARE GONNA REQUIRE ZONING PERMITS UNLESS IT'S A TEMPORARY STRUCTURE, UH, SIMILAR TO THIS RENDERING THAT CAN BE MOVED BY ONE OR TWO PEOPLE IF IT'S LARGER ON A FOUNDATION. UM IT'S GONNA REQUIRE A ZONING PERMIT, AND REGARDLESS, YOU KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADHERE TO THOSE SETBACK STANDARDS AS FAR AS PLACEMENT IN THE REAR YARD. SOME PROPERTIES NEEDS PROPERTY MAINTENANCE SAFEGUARDS. UM YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE A MINIMUM SANITATION AND NUISANCE REQUIREMENTS, NOISE. UM YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GETTING COMPLAINTS, WE HAVE A WAY TO INVESTIGATE THOSE AND ADDRESS THEM ACCORDINGLY. AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A PENALTY SECTION THAT ANY VIOLATIONS TO THIS SECTION WILL BE SUBJECT TO NONCONFORMITY OR GRANDFATHERING IN, SO THERE'S AS I MENTIONED EARLIER. THE MINIATURE HORSES THAT ARE IN MO VALLEY. THOSE WOULD BE PERMITTED TO STAY. CAN INCREASE THE NONCONFORMITY. UH, NO MORE OF THOSE ANIMALS COULD BE ADDED TO THE PROPERTY THEY WOULD BE LIKE IF IN THE EVENT THAT THEY ARE TAKEN TO THE VET OR SHOW THAT'S NOT GONNA REMOVE THEIR NON CONFORMING STATUS IF THEY'RE REMOVED LIKE REHOMED SOMEWHERE. THAT ELIMINATES THE NONCONFORMITY STATUS. BUT ANYBODY WANTS MORE? CLARIFICATION ON THAT. I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT, BUT WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE WHAT WE FOUND IN OUR RESEARCH AND TALKING TO CITY COUNCIL. THERE'S A DESIRE TO NOT PUNISH THE FAMILY THAT HAS THESE HORSES BECAUSE THEY REACHED OUT. BEFORE THEY GOT THE HORSES ON THE PROPERTY AND WENT THROUGH ALL THE RIGHT CHANNELS AND STEPS TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE ALLOWED TO HAVE THIS. I'M TRYING TO FIND A MIDDLE GROUND. SO TO SPEAK. IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING. THEY SAID THAT THEY COULDN'T ALL RIGHT, SO CORRECT. I ASK ZACH WHEN YOU SAY NON CONFORMING. THAT MEANS THAT THE DEATH OF THOSE ANIMALS THEY CANNOT BE REPLACED. IS THAT CORRECT? UM YOU'LL HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE NEW REGULATIONS AS FAR AS NOISE AND ALL THAT STUFF.
YEAH SANITATION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET RID OF THEM FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. CORRECT THEY PROVIDED ALL OF THAT IN THE AND WHAT YOU GUYS YOU GUYS PROVIDED US CORRECT. ALL ALL OF THIS TEXT ALL THE EMAIL? YEAH. UM AND THEN , UM, JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON, YOU KNOW, THERE WASN'T ANYTHING THAT SAID THEY COULDN'T. BUT THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY DID NEED TO GET A ZONING PERMIT FOR THE STRUCTURE THAT THE HORSES ARE HOUSED IN AND THEY DID GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AS WELL. SO ON THEIR END, THEY DID EVERYTHING BY THE BOOK. IT'S MAYBE A LITTLE NO OUT OF THE ORDINARY FOR WHAT A TYPICAL RESIDENT MIGHT EXPECT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE'RE HERE IS JUST FROM THE FEEDBACK THAT RESIDENTS GAVE TO CITY COUNCIL. UM IN ADDITION TO THE NONCONFORMITY SECTION, WE BEEN TALKING TO THE 4H AND F FA GROUPS. THERE'S A DESIRE TO HAVE SOME EXEMPTIONS FOR STUDENTS WHO RAISE ANIMALS FOR THE FAIR, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THE NUMBER OF LIMITATION OF SIX ANIMALS PER LOT. IS THAT NOT REALLY FEASIBLE FOR A 4H PROJECT? YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO START WITH MORE BECAUSE THE MORTALITY RATE TYPICALLY CAN BE KIND OF HIGH.
RIGHT? UM SO IN ORDER TO HAVE SUCCESSFUL THEIR PROJECTS WE WANTED TO UM, PUT THIS SAFEGUARD
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IN THERE TO ALLOW STUDENTS TO CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM PROGRAMS. DO THEY? AH, SO IS THERE A TIME PERIOD THAT THEY HAVE? IS IT LIKE A SIX MONTH PERIOD THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE FOUR MONTHS OR FOUR MONTHS? YEAH, LEADING UP TO THE FAIR, UH, LEADING UP TO AND SHORTLY AFTER THE FAIR, I ASSUME FROM CONSULTING FOUR MONTHS IS EFFICIENT. THAT THAT WAS THE DIRECTION THAT I THOUGHT I GOT. SO IF YOU THINK THAT THAT NEEDS CHANGED, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PROVIDE THAT INPUT AT THE CITIZEN COMMENTS SECTION. DOES THAT REQUIRE AN APPLICATION OR IS IT JUST KIND OF ON OUR SYSTEM? KIND OF THING. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, UM AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AN HONOR SYSTEM IF A NEIGHBOR SAYS, I DON'T THINK YOU KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE ANY STUDENTS THAT THEIR KIDS, YOU KNOW THEY EMPTY NESTERS, BUT THEY HAVE 40 CHICKENS. SO A QUESTION. I BEEN UNFAMILIAR WITH 4H PROJECTS. UM I'M AWARE OF LIKE THE FAIR AND A LOT OF STUDENTS WILL GET STUFF READY FOR THE FAIR. IS THIS STUFF THAT HAPPENS AT OTHER TIMES DURING THE YEAR, TOO. SO LIKE WHILE IT'S WE'RE SAYING FOUR MONTHS, BUT THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING THREE TIMES A YEAR, AND NOW IT'S YEAR ROUND LIKE IS THAT, UM POTENTIAL PITFALL HERE. I WOULD LOVE TO GET THE FEEDBACK FROM MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. WHEN YOU GUYS GET UP HERE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. UM AND THEN JUST WANT TO PROVIDE THE DEFINITIONS.JUST SO THERE'S CLARITY IN YOU KNOW WHEN WE GO TO ADMINISTER THIS CODE ON WHAT CONSTITUTES FARM ANIMAL COOPER CAGE ENCLOSURE. UM AND ANIMAL AND PREDATORY BIRD AND SO FORTH. KEY TAKEAWAYS. UH SOME SMALL OR SMALL FARM ANIMALS WILL BE PERMITTED. SOME WILL NOT AND WE'LL HAVE SOME SAFEGUARDS TO ENSURE THAT PROPERTIES ARE MAINTAINED IN A SAFE AND SANITARY MANNER FREE FROM THE NUISANCES. NOTICE THAT YOU GAVE A EXCEPTION TO RAPTORS IN THE USE OF FALCONRY, BUT THEN YOU PUT FELL. FALCONS ON THE LIKE NOT ALLOWED LIST IS THERE IS THAT AGAIN? THERE'S SOME SORT OF REGISTRATION, THERE'S A STATE REGISTRATION BEFORE THAT, UM, THE AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE BORROWED FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE ENACTED SIMILAR LEGISLATION. MR SILLY HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH A SQUARE FOOTAGE? RULE OF THUMB BASED ON WHAT SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE TO TAKE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOME OUT OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE PARCEL, RIGHT IT'S IT WOULD JUST BE THAT LENGTHEN WITHIN THE PARTY, INCLUDING DOESN'T REALLY LIKE THE OTHER HOUSE DOESN'T UM HIS NAME. INCLUDED IN THAT CALCULATION IS JUST THE PARCEL. I'M UNCLEAR ON THE COUNTY FAIR RULES, I GET IT. I MEAN MY BULLET POINT NUMBER TWO WAS, WHAT DO WE DO AT COUNTY FAIRS? I UNDERSTAND. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT. UH, AS AN F F A KID. I HAD ANIMALS ALL YEAR. YEAH. I MEAN, RABBITS, CHICKENS AND AGAIN. THIS UM, PROPOSAL IS SOMETHING WE ARE TASKED WITH BY COUNCIL SO FROM THE BEGINNING. IT'S BEEN A JUMPING OFF POINT, SO ANY INPUT THAT SO YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE AND STEER US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION PLANNING COMMISSION CAN AND ONE OF THE ONE OF THE ANIMALS TYPE OF ANIMALS ARE ANIMALS WITH HOOVES, RIGHT? UM THERE ARE PYGMY ANIMALS LIKE PYGMY GOATS CHEAP, MEANING THE DEFINITION OF A FARM ANIMAL WHERE THEY'RE RAISING IT FOR THE PRODUCTION OF FOOD OR FOR FOOD IN THE ANIMAL ITSELF WOULD NOT MAKE THAT DEFINITELY THEN IT WOULDN'T BE PERMITTED TO BE KEPT AS A FARM ANIMAL. SMALL FARM ANIMAL. OKAY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR CITY STYLE. SO OUR PLACE OFFICERS STILL GOING TO BE THE ONES WHO ARE REGULATING THIS STILL THE CODE AND THE CODE HAS CHANGED THEN. NO, THEY WON'T BE, BUT SO RIGHT NOW, YES. ONCE THEY GET THE CALL, BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC AND PUBLIC DISTURBANCE. UM MISDEMEANOR OFFENSE, SO THEY'RE THE ONES THAT GET THE CALL. WILL WE GET THE CALL? WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING. SO WE HAVE TO YES, WE'RE NOT SWORN IN TO UPHOLD THAT SECTION OF THE CODES . AND THIS WILL GO IS PROPOSED TO YOU ON SECTION 1123. UM SO THAT'S A CODE THAT ZONING CAN USE IS ENFORCEMENT AND GIVES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE LEVERAGE FROM THE ZONING STANDPOINT. WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE WITH CURRENT. I KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GRANDFATHER. IS IT? ANYBODY THAT POSSIBLY HAS MORE THAN SIX SMALL
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ANIMALS THEY? IS THE COOK GOING TO BE SO SAY WE PASS. IT IS THE CO CAN BE ENFORCED TO THOSE PEOPLE THAN THEY MUST GET RID OF. THE EXCESS AND GENERALLY WITH NONCONFORMITY IS LIKE WITH ANY ZONING NONCONFORMITY. IT'S UNTIL THERE'S A CHANGE. SO IF YOU ESTABLISHED IT PRIOR TO UM, YOU CAN KEEP IT IN PERPETUITY JUST CAN'T INCREASE IT, OKAY? ONE LAST QUESTION. HOW MANY PEOPLE OF THIS REALLY AFFECTING MUCH OF OUR MOST OF OUR OS PROHIBIT ANIMALS ANYWAY? RIGHT NOW WOULD IMAGINE MOST H UA'S RESTRICT THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW SINCE THAT'S A PRIVATELY ENFORCED RESTRICTION, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LARGE PORTION OF THE CITY THAT IS NOT WITHIN NH O A I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION. HAS THERE BEEN ANY THOUGHTS OF THE INCREASE IT INCREASE OF NUISANCE? NUISANCE ANIMALS LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN INCREASE IN RACCOONS. IF YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, EGG LAYING HANDS. AH RATS. THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IS THAT BEEN CONSIDERED AT ALL WHERE THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE THE ANIMALS IN A PREDATOR PROOF ENCLOSURE OR COOP. THAT'S WHY THAT'S ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS. UM I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A RISK. REGARDLESS. UM I MEAN THE BACK IN YOUR GOOD TO HAVE AN INCREASE IN CATS AND GET COYOTES, KILLING THE CATS. AND I MEAN COYOTES RUNNING DOWN MY DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. YOU KNOW, ONCE OR TWICE A MONTH. YEAH I GUESS THAT THAT WERE THE INTENT BEHIND THIS CODE WAS TO TRY TO ESTABLISH MINIMUM SAFEGUARDS SO THAT THOSE INSTANCES ARE MINIMIZED. I THINK BUSINESSES HAS HAPPENED NOW. URBAN COYOTES AND RACCOONS ALREADY UM SO HOPEFULLY. ESTABLISHING THE SAFEGUARDS FOR THE STRUCTURES WERE ABLE TO MINIMIZE THAT. QUESTIONS FROM QUESTION THE CITY. OKAY I'LL SEE YOU ON OPEN UP CITIZEN COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE MINUTES. STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND I'LL TRY TO REMEMBER TO TURN OFF THE ALARM THIS TIME. OH UM MY NAME IS AMELIA EVE RESIDE AT 1420 CREEK VIEW DRIVE. I AM THE OWNER OF THE THREE MINIATURE HORSES IN MILL VALLEY, SO I THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF HELP. EXPLAIN GUESS. BRING SOME CLARITY. UM SO BEAR WITH ME. I'M JUST GONNA READ THIS IN A LITTLE BETTER AT THAT. UM YEAH, OBVIOUSLY, I'M WOULD ENCOURAGE AND NO ON AMENDING ANY AND MANY IN THE CURRENT LEGISLATION. UM THE MINIATURE HORSES MY FAMILY OWNS. WE DID PURCHASE THEM TO BE MEMBERS OF OUR FAMILY, BUT IT WAS INSPIRED TO SERVE AS A GREAT PROJECT FROM MY DAUGHTER. UM WE HAVE THREE OF THEM, AND SHE CAN TAKE A MAXIMUM OF TWO TO THE FAIR, BUT SHE LIKES TO DO A LARGE LARGE HEARTS AND A MINIATURE HORSE, SO I LEASE OUT. UM THE OTHER TWO AS A FREE LEASE , WHICH REALLY MEANS A DOLLAR BECAUSE FOR EACH DOES STIPULATE THAT THERE HAS TO BE AN EXCHANGE MONETARY EXCHANGE. UM OFTEN LEASING A HORSE FOR THE FOR A FOUR H PROJECT CAN BE VERY COST PROHIBITIVE TO FAMILIES, BUT JUST PASSIONATE ABOUT GIVING KIDS THE OPPORTUNITY TO UM, LEARN THE VALUE OF HARD WORK.PATIENCE PERSISTENCE COME PAST AND COMPASSION. UH HORSEMANSHIP PROVIDES THIS TO THEM AND SO MUCH MORE. UM SO I REALLY LIKE BEING ABLE TO IN A POSITION WHERE I CAN AFFORD THAT TO AT LEAST TWO KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY. UM AND ESPECIALLY TO THOSE KIDS WHO MAYBE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE EXPERIENCE OTHERWISE. UM WITH RESPECT TO AMENDING A CITY CODE AND LIMITING WHAT TYPES OF ANIMALS THAT PROPERTY THAT PROPERTY OWNERS CAN KEEP, HONESTLY DON'T SEE THAT IT'S CURRENTLY NECESSARY IN MY EXPERIENCE, THE REASON BEING IS OUR COUNTY AND CITY ALREADY HAVE CHECKS AND BALANCES IN PLACE TO REMOVE ANIMALS FROM A PROPERTY THAT MEAT THE CRITERIA. TO BE CONSIDERED A NUISANCE, AND I KNEW THIS GOING IN TO BRINGING BRINGING THE ANIMALS TO MY PROPERTIES AH, UM I DID HAVE THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT WAS ASKED TO COME OUT TO MY PROPERTY . UM UH, ON THEY CAME ON 9 1423 AND I WAS GIVEN A GLOWING REPORT . UM SHE REPORTED UM, NO WASTE HORSE DOG OR OTHER ANIMAL WAS SEEN THROUGH THE FENCE AND NO ODORS WERE NOTED, AND THIS IS HOLLY REST. UH UM. SO AND I ALSO FEEL THAT WHEN WE MAKE AMENDMENTS BEST TO BE MADE WHEN
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THERE IS A LARGE CONSENSUS. UH TO SUPPORT A CHANGE, AND I'M NOT QUITE SAYING THAT THIS IS THE CASE IN THIS MATTER WITH THE FARM ANIMALS, EITHER. WE'VE HAD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK WITH RESPECT TO OUR HORSES. UM IN OUR IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN THE CITY AS WELL, UM, WE'VE MADE FRONT PAGE NEWS TWICE. UM SECOND TIME WAS OUR STORY. AND THE TRIBUNE SHARED THAT ON THEIR FACEBOOK PAGE AND I WAS REALLY OVERWHELMED AT THE POSITIVE COMMENTS. I WAS HONESTLY SHOCKED THAT THERE REALLY WASN'T A NEGATIVE COMMENT SO THAT KIND OF INDICATES TO ME THAT YOU KNOW MARYSVILLE IS A CITY THAT SUPPORTS THIS AND APPRECIATES THIS SO LONG AS US AS OWNERS ARE KEEPING DOING OUR DILIGENCE TO KEEP IT, YOU KNOW? AS LITTLE FARM LIFE AS WE CAN. AH SO IN MY FAMILY, WE DO WE INVESTIGATE SYDOR CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME AND MONEY BY CLEANING THE STALLS DAILY CLEAR CLEARING THE YARD OF MANURE DAILY MANURE IS KEPT IN A CLOSED TRASH BIN LINED WITH THE TRUST TRASH BAG THAT IS TIED OFF WHEN FULL BAGS OF MANURE ARE REMOVED FROM THE PROPERTY WEEKLY. WE PURCHASE AND USE PRODUCTS AND SUPPLEMENTS TO KEEP FLIES AND REASONABLE MEMBERS. WE DO THESE THINGS BECAUSE WE TOO DO NOT WANT THE SMELL AND THE FLIES ON OUR PROPERTY. UM AND A NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH OF US ACTUALLY CAUGHT BECAUSE I TOUCHED BASE WITH MY NEIGHBORS IS OFTEN NIGHTS I COULD, AND SHE'S LIKE, HONESTLY, I FEEL LIKE THE FLIES WERE LESS THIS YEAR AT MY HOUSE. UM SO JUST TO WRAP UP I WANT TO MAKE NOTE THAT FIRST MINIATURE HORSES OR WHAT I LIKE TO CALL AND NOVELTY ANIMAL NOT SO MUCH A FARM ANIMAL. UM THEY'RE NOT A TYPICAL FARM ANIMAL THEY'RE TYPICALLY USED AS PASTURE MATES FOR PLEASURE DRIVING IN A CART. SHOWING THEY ARE RECOGNIZED BY THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT AS SERVICE AND THERAPY ANIMALS. ONE OF MY HORSES WILL BEGIN THEIR TRAINING IN THE NEW NEAR FUTURE, AND I HOPE TO HAVE THE OTHER TO FOLLOW SUIT. UM AND AS FAR AS THE GRANDFATHERING, UM , IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT FORWARD. UM I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW ABOUT MINIATURE HORSES OR SOMETIMES FORCES IN GENERAL. THEY TEND TO BE KIND OF A TRANSIENT ANIMAL MEANING THAT IT IS COMMON FOR THEM TO CHANGE THEIR RESIDING LOCATION FOR SEVERAL WEEKS TO SEVERAL MONTHS, DEPENDING PRIMARILY DUE OR DEPENDING ON TRAINING FOR A JUDGE, OR SOMETIMES JUST LEASING OUT THE ANIMAL TO SOMEBODY WHO IS WANTING TO WORK WITH A HORSE. UM R THREE CERTAINLY FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY AS THEY ARE LEAST 24 H KIDS, WILL LIKELY GO OFF FOR TRAINING DIFFERENT PERIODS OF TIME WHEN THERE'S A NEW ADVENTURE THAT WE WANT TO GO ON TO LEARN WITH THEM. AND IT'S ALSO SINCE WE ARE IN THE CITY IT IS BENEFICIAL IN THE WINTER MONTHS FOR THEM TO BE AT A BOARDING FACILITY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT MY GRASS LIKE COMPLETELY DEMOLISHED. UM I DO WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT GRASS OF THE WINTER MONTHS WHEN THE GRASS ISN'T GROWING. IT'S GOOD FOR THEM TO KIND OF BE OFF PROPERTY FOR THAT TIME FRAME FOR EVERYONE ELSE'S REFERENCE. I CAN ALLOW MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES I FEEL THIS IS GOOD DISCUSSION, SO YOUR CONTINUING. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT. UM SO ACTUALLY THAT THAT WRAPS IT UP, BUT ANY OF YOU ARE WELCOME TO ANY OF YOU ARE WELCOME TO VISIT OUR HOME. WE'VE EXTENDED THAT TO CITY COUNCIL AS WELL NOW BEFORE, AFTER ANY VOTES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE ARE HAPPY TO SHARE OUR LOVE OF FORCES WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WE SEEK OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT.WE'RE HOPING THAT AT MILL VALLEY ELEMENTARY DURING CHRISTMAS TIME WE MIGHT BRING. WE'VE OFFERED TO BRING THEM TO THEIR HOLIDAYS. YOU BELIEVE FOR THE KIDS TO ENJOY THAT? ENJOY IT THAT SO, UM YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE IT. APPRECIATE IT AS WELL. OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK ON SIGN HIM. START THE TIMER. WE'LL SEE WHERE WE GO, OKAY. HI MY NAME IS SHERRY ANDERSON. I'M ONE OF THE ADVISERS WITH THE MARYSVILLE FAA . SO JUST KIND OF TALKING ON HOW THIS PROPOSED LEGISLATION WOULD IMPACT OUR STUDENTS AND KIND OF ANSWERING A FEW QUESTIONS IF WE'RE TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT EXHIBITING AT THE UNION COUNTY FAIR, SMALL ANIMAL PROJECTS LIKE RABBITS, CHICKENS ALL OF THAT IF THEY ARE JUST RAISING THEM SPECIFICALLY FOR EXHIBITING FOUR MONTHS WOULD PROBABLY BE INAPPROPRIATE TIME FRAME. BUT AS MANY OF YOU NOTICED AS ALARM. UM WE HAVE OUR STUDENTS HAVE PROJECTS CALLED SUPERVISED AGRICULTURAL EXPERIENCE PROJECTS THAT DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT, OUR PROJECTS THAT CAN LAST WELL OVER FOUR MONTHS AND SOMETIMES OVER FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT, AND THEY STUDENTS
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DESIGNED THOSE PROJECTS BASED OFF OF THE SKILLS AND LEARNING THAT THEY WANT TO GAIN. AND THEN THE PROFITS FROM THAT, AND THE TIME SPENT IN THAT HELPS THEM TO APPLY FOR A DEGREES AND PROFICIENCY, EASE AND EXCEL WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. SO UM, WE'VE HAD INSTANCES OF STUDENTS THAT HAVE LIVED WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS THAT HAVE DEFINITELY HAD MORE THAN SIX CHICKENS OR EVEN 30 CHICKENS WITH THAT PROVISION IN THERE FOR YOU KNOW AN ENTIRE YEAR OR LONGER AS THEY WERE BREEDING OR OR, YOU KNOW, DOING, UM, UH, EGG PRODUCTION OR THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO IF WE'RE TALKING SPECIFICALLY FOR COUNTY FAIR EXPOSURE, EXHIBITING, THEN I THINK FOUR MONTHS WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME. BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT OVERALL S A S, UM AND STUDENT PROJECTS, OFTENTIMES THOSE WILL LAST LONGER THAN FOUR MONTHS. UM I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED ABOUT THE SPACE REQUIREMENTS LIKE SQUARE FEET PER CHICKEN. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WOULD BE EXCLUSIONS FOR, UM, PROJECTS THAT WAY, BUT I THINK IT WAS RECOMMENDED OF 10 SQUARE FEET PER BIRD. I THINK IF MY MEMORY IS RIGHT SIZE, I BELIEVE, RIGHT ENCLOSURE. YEAH. RIGHT? BROWN SAID. SO INDUSTRY STANDARDS IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THAT, SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT, UM, AND TO REVISE, OBVIOUSLY, THE OWNER COULD COULD CHOOSE TO GO MORE, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE CONSERVATIVE ON THAT AND ALIGN WITH INDUSTRY STANDARDS, YOU KNOW CHICKENS, AS IT WAS NOTED, OFTENTIMES YOU NEED TO HAVE A FEW OF THEM IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO HAVE TO SHOW BECAUSE CHICKENS YOU HAVE TO CONVINCE EVERYDAY LIFE IS WORTH LIVING. UM AND SO THEY DON'T LIKE TO BE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OPEN, EITHER. AND SO WE MIGHT THINK THAT THEY WANT A BIG OPEN SPACE, BUT THEY ACTUALLY PREFER TO BE A LITTLE MORE SECLUDED BECAUSE THEY JUST FEEL SAFER. AND SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE'RE PUTTING IN REGULATIONS AS WELL. I THINK THAT WAS IT. WOULD YOU ALSO WANT TO SPEAK? THANK YOU. HI MY NAME IS ASHLEY THOMPSON. I'M ANOTHER ONE OF THE ADVISORS HERE WITH MARYSVILLE. THAT PROGRAM HERE. UM WE HAVE SEVERAL STUDENTS THAT WANT TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE THEIR FOOD COMES FROM HOW TO ENSURE A SAFE AND AFFORDABLE FOOD SUPPLY. AND I THINK, UM, AS WE LOOK AT POSSIBLE REGULATIONS FOR THESE AREAS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE JUST HOW DIFFERENT. MARYSVILLE IS IN THE DIFFERENT ZONES. UM I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE ZONES. I LIVE OUTSIDE OF TOWN. UM, BUT UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCES AND HOW MILL VALLEY MATE LOOK AND HOW FIFTH STREET MAY LOOK AND ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PLACES AND I CAN CERTAINLY AGREE THAT THERE IS SOME COMMON SENSE AND COURTESY TO HAVE WHEN IT COMES TO DECIDING WHERE TO KEEP THE ANIMALS, BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME PRETTY LARGE AREAS IN TOWN, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN PERSPECTIVE AS WE DECIDE ON OUR REGULATIONS, SO TO SPEAK, UM AND SO WE HAD. WE DO HAVE STUDENTS WHO LIKE TO CARRY OUT PROJECTS THOSE PROJECTS OFTEN TIMES LAST THE LENGTH OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, AND THEY'RE ABLE TO EARN ADDITIONAL CREDIT TOWARDS GRADUATION IN OUR INSTANCES, STUDENTS CAN EARN AN EXTRA QUARTER CREDIT FOR EACH CLASS THAT THEY TAKE ON A YEARLY BASIS BASED OFF OF THE TIME THEY INVEST INTO THESE PROJECTS, UM AND SO FOR MONTHS IS APPROPRIATE FOR A FAIR EXHIBITION. BUT THERE ARE PLENTY OF PROJECTS THAT GO ON BEYOND THAT TIME. AND IN ADDITION TO THE DEGREES AND PROFICIENCY IS THEY CAN APPLY FOR, UM THERE ARE ALSO THERE'S ALSO AN AGRICULTURE SCIENCE FAIR THAT'S HELD AT OUR STATE CONVENTION, AND THERE ARE ALSO SCHOLARSHIP EARNINGS TO BE TIED TO THEIR PERFORMANCE IN THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS, SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR STUDENTS WHO WANT TO LEARN ABOUT ANIMALS, AND MAYBE AT A POINT IN THERE.LIFE WHERE THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DECIDE WHERE THEY GET TO LIVE JUST YET, UM, AND WHAT KINDS OF RESTRICTIONS THERE WILLING TO LIVE WITH IN THOSE TYPES OF ARRANGEMENTS, AND I WOULD SAY THE ONE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN CONSIDERATION IN ALL OF OUR SOCIETY. WE ARE ALWAYS CONCERNED WITH OUR ECONOMIC ECONOMIC, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL FOOTPRINT AND OUR SUSTAINABILITY AS A CULTURE IN AND OF ITSELF AND WHERE OUR FOOD COMES FROM, I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER AS WE HAVE A GROWING INTEREST IN ORGANIC FOOD PRODUCTION AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW. WHERE DO WE PUT THE FOOD THAT WE GROW, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE ANIMALS THAT BECOME PART OF THAT FOOD SUPPLY. UM AND, UH AS YOU LOOK AT SOME OF YOUR
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RESTRICTIONS. JUST CONSIDER SOME OF THAT WITH WHERE IT COMES FROM ANIMALS THAT ARE HOOKED. UM YOU KNOW, A LAMB IS A MIGHTY FINE LAWNMOWER, AND THEY'RE ALSO PRETTY GREEN IN TERMS OF THEIR FOSSIL FUEL FOSSIL FUEL USE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM I UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE A NOISE OR A SMELL ISSUE, UM IN THE CITY, AND I CAN 100% RESPECT THAT. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE I THINK. YOUR PARCELS ARE SO DIFFERENT. UM JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU COME UP WITH WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU CHOOSE TO PUT FORTH. I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY. I'M NOT IN THAT SEAT, TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT THAT REGULATION LOOKS LIKE. BUT IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT STUDENTS MIGHT EXPERIENCE AND HOW THAT CAN IMPACT OUR FAMILIES, UM THAT'S WHAT I CAN PROVIDE. FOR YOU TO CONSIDER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. SEARCH. QUESTION SURE. THIS REGULATION COMMITTEE PRESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. SO TO THAT QUESTION WAS SITTING HERE THINKING WE RELEASED AT THE SCHOOL. OF THE YEAR. AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THAT AND ALSO TO THE SCHOOL. I'M UP HERE. INVESTIGATION I THINK IN THAT PARTICULAR INSTANCE THAT IS LIKE WE DISCUSSED EARLIER WITH A SMALLER PERCENTAGE OF THE USE BEING INCIDENTAL TO THE SCHOOLS USE SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD APPLY DISTANCE. OKAY UM, WITH THAT SPEAK ALSO. I ALREADY SPOKE . BUT YOU'RE THE LAST ONE DESK SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE ANIMALS, SURE. ALL RIGHT, WELL, I GUESS WITH US ISN'T OR IS THERE ADDITIONAL, UM THINGS THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO STAY IN OR JUST, UM, ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS UM, I MEAN THERE WERE SOME VERY GOOD POINTS. RAISED UM I DON'T KNOW WE NEED TO, UM TAKE THAT. FEEDBACK AND MAYBE WE WORK DRAFT . KIND OF WHAT I WAS LEADING TO THE TABLE AND, UM, ADDITIONAL ON IT. UM I JUST HAVE ONE. ARE WE REACHING WITH? ARE WE OVERREACH ONCE WITH THIS? HOW MANY? PROBLEMS ARE WE FACING, RIGHT NOW? LEGITIMATE PLEASE ARE CALLED PROBLEMS. HMM UM, WE WERE ASKED BY CITY COUNCIL TO LOOK INTO THIS. UM I WOULD SAY THE NUMBER OF ASKING IF I CAN HAVE AN VERSUS CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT MY NEIGHBORS? ANIMALS IT'S TIPS.HEAVILY IN THE SIDE OF PEOPLE ASK HIM IF THEY CAN THEY WANT TO. I MEAN, I THINK EITHER WAY PROBABLY STILL IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT IN OUR CODE. WE SHOULD DEFINE SOMETHING. YOU KNOW WITH THOSE RESTRICTIONS ARE ? AS AS US TO CAN CAN I ALSO CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION. THAT WITH THE WHO ANIMALS WITH YOU MAKING A COMMENT THE SAME. ONE I FEEL LIKE WHEN IT COMES TO H JUST PERSONAL EXPERIENCE FOR. TO YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ADVISOR AND IT'S NOT PEOPLE. THESE CHILDREN ARE JUST DOING IT ON THEIR OWN. YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE WELL EDUCATED AND KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND KNOW HOW TO RAISE CHICKENS THAT I UNDERST. IT'S A FOOT TYPE ISSUE. UM SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE FORMER RESTRICTION, I THINK THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT. BUT THEN ALSO WHEN IT COME TO THERAPY ANIMALS, ESPECIALLY WITH COMMUNITY, REALLY, UM LIKE PEOPLE WOULD DISABILITIES, IT'S HUGH. THE PEOPLE SEEK THAT TYPE OF THERAPY . AND SO THINK IT'S REALLY GREAT . SORRY I THINK IT'S REALLY GREAT. AND LIKE, JUST IT NEEDS TO BE. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE A VERY HUGE DISABILITY. RELATED COMMUNE WHO WAS VERY ACTIVE IN TRYING TO SEEK TYPES OF THEIR LIKE THAT I THINK IT'S REALLY GREAT. SORRY I APOLOGIZE. CERTAINLY THERE IS OF THE STATE
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HAS CERTAINLY FOR THERAPY ANIMALS THERE. PROBABLY LICENSED I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT WOULD BE LIKE THESE REGULATIONS BE APPLIQUE IF IT'S A LICENSED THERE ANIMAL. TRUMP OR COULD WE DO SOME? SORT OF LIKE IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE OF YOUR ISN'T A THERAPY ANIMAL. ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO SOMETHING OF TO THE CITY AND I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE COME UP WITH HOW ARE YOU COME UP WITH HOW THAT WORKS YEAH KNOW? YOU GO THROUGH. I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF WORK IT'S JUST CONSIDERATION. POSSIBLE THAT COULD BE ADDED TO THE EXEMPTION SECTION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER LINE ITEM IN THAT WAS ADDED, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION THANKS SHOULD MOVE TOWARDS AND WE DO THAT. NOT NECESSARILY THE QUESTION. GUESS THANK OUT LOUD.HERE ALL OF THIS PEN TO PAPER. WE'RE NOT OTHER THAN SAYING. LARGE AND ARE NOT ALLOWED. AND RESIDENTS AREA. WERE REALLY NOT. SAYING PEOPLE CAN'T DOING MOST WHAT THEY'RE DOING. JUST WRAPPING REGULATION, RIGHT, HMM MEAN, WE'RE STILL SEEING YOU CAN HAVE CHICKENS SOMETHING NUMBER.
ACTUALLY BEING USED. TRYING TO WRAP SOME SOME REGULAR AROUND IT . UM SO PERHAPS WE'RE NOT TRYING TO UM, PUT A REDUCTION. YEAH WITH THAT RIGHT NUMBER IS, BUT I THINK SOUNDS MAYBE THE BIGGEST STICKING. THAT LENGTH OF TIME. LIKE IF WE'RE GONNA SAY YOU'RE ALLOWED MANY, MANY SQUARE FEET.
SURE IT JUST BE? SHOULD THAT BE THE AND NO OTHER TIME. LEVITY JUST HEY, IF YOUR MEAT ALL THESE THINGS IT'S FINE. BACK TO THE EXEMPTION SECTION. UM IF THERE WAS THERE WAS ACQUIRED THAT, UM KNOW THE PROPER OWNER OR SOMEONE WHO LIVES THERE. SOME KIND OF PAPER FROM THE SCHOOL OR FROM THE FOREST GROUP SAYS THIS IS MY PROJECT. REQUESTS EXEMPT FROM THE TIME LIMIT AND NUMBER RESTRICTIONS. RELATED TO THE FARM ANIMAL. UM LET'S. MAYBE THAT'S EASIER TO NAVIGATE THAN TO PICK A SPECIFIC LENGTH TIME SPECIFIC. UM NO OF ANIMALS IN THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS THINK BE EASY OR NOT EASY. BUT B ABLE TO ADMINISTER. MAYBE THEY SOMETHING LIKE THAT WORK NOTE.
THAT IF SOME IS APPLYING FOR FOUR H EXEMPTION THAT WE DON'T THEM A $25 APPLICATION FOR YOUR.
I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST OR F F A RIGHT. YEAH I THINK THAT'D BE FINE. IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT REGISTRY. EDUCATIONAL BASE SHOULDN'T BE YOU SHOULD NOT BE NOT A FEE. WHO DOES THAT HAVE ENOUGH FEED, TOO? FOR TO MAYBE TAKE I THINK SO, YEAH THINK WE CAN LOOK INTO SOME OF THIS.
INFORMATION THAT WE'VE TALKED, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UM CITIZENS PRESENTED TONIGHT. AND WE CAN COME. COULD I MAKE ONE TO AS FAR AS IT RELATES TO THE NONCONFORMITY? I DON'T SEE A REASON. LIKE YOU KNOW YOU, FOR EXAMPLE HAVE THREE. MANY HORSES. ONE OF THEM. YOU KNOW PASSES WHITE SHE JUST HAVE ANOTHER ONE? YOU KNOW, WHY CAN'T THAT NUMBER JUST FEEL THAT? IS WHAT IT IS YOU CAN'T GO UP. BUT YOU KNOW YOU SAID THAT FOR THE OTHER ANIMAL IF THEY CAN'T GO UP BUT UM, I GUESS THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF IS AND. AND GENERAL, IS WHEN, WHEN ZONING REGULATIONS CHANGE. UM DON'T YOU'RE INTENT IS NOT TO ALLOW THOSE NONCONFORMITY. CONTINUE CONTINUE . I THINK THE SAYS SURVIVAL, WHICH IS A WEIRD THING TO SAY. WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH ANIMALS IT'S SIMILAR TO HISTORIC DISTRICT LIKE WELL LET THIS SLIDE. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING HAVE TO KIND OF LOOKING AT IT. MORE AS ANIMALS, VERSE BUILD, I GUESS, BUT YEAH, AND THAT WAS JUST, UM AGAIN. THIS THIS ENTIRE DOCUMENTS OVER IS KIND OF A JUMPING OFF POINT TO SEE WILLIAM LANDED. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK I'M SUPPOSED TO ASK THIS AS QUESTIONS FROM THE. THE QUESTION . CAN YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER IT EITHER. YES, MA'AM. UM THE THREE MEN HORSES, UM IS IT? I'M GUESSING OF VOLUNTEER LITTLE BIT OF BUSINESS. ALSO YEAH? BECAUSE
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WHAT? WHAT I'M SAYING IS LIKE YOU CURRENTLY HAVE THREE, LIKE AND IT'S GETTING INCOME FROM PART OF THAT. YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT. SHE SHE SAID THAT SHE CHARGES THE $1 . YEAH RIGHT YEAH. YEAH I'M TRYING TO TRYING IN MY HEAD PARALLEL OF OTHER BUSINESSES.WHERE ZONING CHANGE THEIR SCREEN RING AND, YEAH IF THEY'RE QUEEN WANTS TO DOWN THAT ONE MONUMENT SIGN WE'RE GONNA MAKE ON YOU. KNOW BRING UP TO CODE, BUT RIGHT NOW, IF WE DON'T TO. UM MONEY.
PLACE TO BE ABLE WALKED OUT. FOR I'M SORRY. SO QUICK EXAMPLE MY DAUGHTER, RIGHT? A PEOPLE BACK FOR DOLLAR. AND BABIES. SOME OF THEIR ANIMALS. MY BEAUTY. ALSO BECAME HANDLING. VERY OKAY? ALL RIGHT, WHICH DON'T SURE. COMPANY JUST TO THE EAST AND. YOU'RE FINISHED. THERAPY ANIMALS. PERIOD WELL. THANK YOU. UM GUESS MY OF THINKING IS, UM AS AS THE GRAND WAS AND WE NOT NOT MAKING SUGGESTIONS FOR ONE CASE. IN THIS INSTANCE THERE'S ONE CASE. YOU KNOW, THAT THE ROOM WOULD BE THAT IF THERE ARE THREE CURRENTLY AND THEY GO A SIGNIFICANT SIX MONTHS TWO. THEN THE GREEN FLOWERS. LIKE THAT HOW THE AND GOES AWAY IS IF THEY DON'T MAINTAIN THEIR USE. NOT TO DYING. HOW LONG DOES JUST MY LOGIC EVERYBODY IF THAT MAKES ACTUAL ZONING SENSE WHEN THAT SAID THE GOING AWAY DO YOU MEAN GOING AWAY AS IN PASS AWAY OR MEANING TO CEASE. NOT GOING AWAY BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS IS TRAVELED SOMEWHERE ELSE? YEAH SAID SHE BOARDED THEM IN THE WINTERTIME. YES OKAY. YEAH I GUESS I WOULD JUST BE MORE ON BOARD WITH THAT IF WE ALLOWED IF THEY'RE NOT GOING IS DECREASED, AND THEN STAYS AT THAT. DECREASED NUMBER. A CERTAIN NUMBER OF, THEN THAT'S THE NEW THRESHOLD. I MEAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO POLICE STATE? DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT'S AN ISSUE. ADMINISTERING THAT WOULD BE BE DIFFICULT, BUT I SEE A TRACK YOUR LIFE. HOUSES HAVE MANY HORSES PROBLEM. SO WHAT SO I DON'T AGAIN JUST A THOUGHT.
MEAN, BUT, UM YEAH. ANY ELSE FROM THE COMMISSION. MOTION TO TABLE YES, ALL RIGHT, SO HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE FOR MR STILYAN. A SECOND. SERVICE. CAN WE GET A ROLE CALL, PLEASE? MS YES. MR FISHER. MISS LOW? YES. MR STILL? YES? MR NICHOLSON. THIS MR? YES ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MUCH.
APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK. THAT'S TAKES US THROUGH THE NEW
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BUSINESS. TIME THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION. SO YOUR STAFF HAVE A LITTLE UPDATE SO, UM COUPLE OF OUR MEMBERS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING WITH FEW CITY MEMBERS IN A SMALL GROUP WORK SESSION FOR SOME OF THE MARIJUANA MOVING FORWARD SO, UM WE'RE KIND OF TO COME. FORWARD TO PLANNING WITH SOME PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. SO JUST KIND OF KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TALKING THROUGH. UM SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS RELATED TO THAT, AND HOW WE ZONE THAT. AH AS WELL. UM YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THAT, UH WENT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR MORATORIUM ON[01:10:04]
SMALL DISCOUNT STORES. SO WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING WHAT ZONING TEXT LOOKS LIKE AS WELL. SO THAT WILL PROBABLY BE MAYBE. TARGETED FOR THE FALL TIME YOU MIGHT SEE THAT, UM, COME TO COMMISSION AS MORE RESEARCH IS ON THAT, AND HOW WE WANT TO PURSUE FORWARD RELATED TO SMALL DISCOUNT STORES AND GETTING DEFINITION AND SUCH. AND THEN WE HAVE A HERE. DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT WILL BE COMING THROUGH THIS SUMMER. SO WE'LL HAVE SOME FOLLOW THE SUMMER AND WE ALSO HAVE TO PLANNING INTERNS STARTED US. KATHRYN IS HERE TONIGHT. SO SHE IS A STUDENT AT OHIO STATE, SO YOU WILL SEE HER AT SOME OF OUR MEAT FOR PLANNING DESIGN REVIEW BOARD THIS, MAYBE RECEIVE SOME EMAILS FROM HER THEN WE ALSO HAVE A CASE. AS WELL. SO HE'S NOT HERE WITH US THIS EVENING HE DID ON. MONDAY ALSO SO I THINK THAT'S IT ANYTHING ELSE, JEFF OKAY? ALL RIGHT. I IF I COULD JUST ON BECAUSE UM AS FAR AS THE MEETING WE HAD ABOUT THE MARIJUANA LEGISLATION. YES, UH, THINK THROUGH, I THINK EVERYONE LOSE LOSE. LAST MONTH. FOR UM ABOVE THE BLUE. UM WATCH. WAS REALLY JUST TO DISCUSS WHAT ZONE COULD LOOK LIKE AND THE DIFFERENTLY SO THERE IS PRODUCTION. UH HUH. PRODUCTION ROOM DISPENSARY. I'M SORRY. SAY IT ONE MORE TIME CULTIVATION CULTIVATION PRODUCTION. DISPENSARY. YES AND I THINK ABOUT THE THREE AND YOUR FEELINGS ON THOSE THEN YOU KNOW, UM, AT SOME POINT, WE WILL, UM WORK TO DECIDE WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE TO COUNCIL AS FAR AS WHAT ALLOWING WHAT NOT TO ALLOW. THAT'S JUST WHERE WE'RE AT. RIGHT NOW. RIGHT? MAY I SPEAK INTO DISCUSSION ITEMS BECAUSE I FORGOT TO IT TO THE AGENDA. THE START OF THE MEAT BECAUSE IT WASN'T WRITTEN DOWN. DON'T KNOW. MAYBE UM, I HAVE A CRE REVIEW. OKAY AT THE LAST MEETING. I MAY I DO IT CRM UPDATE. IT IS ABOUT TIME. YEAH UM, I A FEW MINUTES. AH COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO GO OVER SO WE HAD THE UM CR A. THE COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA HOUSING. COUNCIL UM BACK. IN MARCH. AND WE RE HMM. PROJECTS THAT ARE IN CONSTRUCTION. SO JUST KIND OF, UM, OBVIOUSLY NOT ANY OF THEIR REQUIREMENTS YET THEY'RE NOT IN EXISTENCE. IT WAS JUST KIND OF A CHECK ON THOSE, AND THEN WE SIX COMMERCIAL PROJECTS AND RESIDENTIAL. AND A LOT STORY SHORT, WE APPROVED OF THEM FOR CONTINUING ON THEIR ABATEMENTS. UM HAPPY TO SHARE THOSE PROPERTIES WERE. IF INTERESTED, BUT I WON'T GO THROUGH. ALL FOUR PLUS FOUR PROPERTIES RIGHT NOW, UM ONE THING I DID WANT TO SHARE IT IS.I KNOW THAT SEEN IT IN THE TIME THAT I HAVE BEEN ON PLANNING COMMISSION. THIS IS A REPRESENTATIVE THAT WE PICK EVERY YEAR TO GO TO THAT ANNUAL MEETING I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT BYLAW FOR THE COMMUNITY AREA HOUSE COUNCIL STATES THAT, UM THAT MEMBER OF THE C R A SERVICE THREE YEAR TERM. AND UM, THAT ONE MEMBER HAS A POINT BY MAYOR ISABEL PLAN COMMISSION. SO JUST WANTED TO. THAT DO NOT NEED TO PICK A NEW PERSON EACH YEAR. I MEAN, LIKE THAT BEING SAID I CAN CONTINUE FOR TWO MORE YEARS. WE DON'T NEED BRING THAT TO. UM HOW , I ALSO KNOW THAT LIKE MY TERM EXPIRES END OF 2025. SO IF I DID NOT SERVE ANOTHER TERM THAT WOULD LEAVE A VACANCY THAT THEN NEED TO BE UM, REAL. BUT ALSO, UM, IT'S ONE MEMBER APPOINTED BY PLAN COMMISSION TECHNICALLY, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO A PLANNING COMMISSION. MEMBER HOW, WE REALIZE THAT THE GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WELL INFORM ON THE AREA SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE PICKING ONE OF OURSELVES. JUST WANTED TO SHARE. THE BYLAWS FOR THE CIA SO THAT WE KIND OF WERE AT LEAST ALL AWARE OF TERMS AND REQUIREMENT FOR A PLANNING COMMISSION. REPRESENTATIVE TO THE SEA. R A THAT WAS ALL. THAT LEADS US INTO THE DESIGN REVIEW WORLDLY ON A REPORT. OKAY? UH DEREK IS APPROVED AND MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME CONDITION. STAFF DID I GET UP. THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR THEIR VARIANCES. AND THEY'VE SUBMITTED LANDSCAPE PLAN. WE'VE RECEIVED THE REVIEWING THAT. MAKES THAT MET
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ALL THE CONDITIONS, BUT GOING THROUGH THE A PROCESS AND DUCKING CAME IN FRONT OF US AND WE TABLED THEM. TABLED THIS TIME , WE APPROVED. WHY DID WE DO ON THAT SHARED DUMPSTER? SPACE BETWEEN THE TWO. WE'RE OKAY WITH IT AS LONG AS THE TO PROPERTY OWNERS AGREED. OKAY WHEN WE APPROVE SOME FACADE, GRAN, UH, DESIGN FOR TWO FACADE GRANTS. UM 14 SECOND CHANCES. WINDOWS AND THE OTHER WAS NO. YES YEAH. PAIN PAINT WOOD TASIA. I THINK IT'S ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. ALL THAT[COMMENTS OF INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS]
TAKES US TO COMMENTS FROM INDIVIDUAL WORKING. THEN I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. ALREADY GET A TODAY. SUBMIT ANYTHING. THEIR RECONSTRUCTION. ALREADY THEY'RE WORKING ON A DID A REVISION TO PLANS APPLICATION. BECAUSE THE SCALE OF THE PROJECT OVER THRESHOLD FOR. KEYBOARD REQUIREMENT AND MET THAT REVISION OF PLANTS. WILL COME. GOOD. COMMANDS NOTHING. GOOD I THINK I AM GOOD AS WELL. SO IT SEVEN MOTION TO. ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR,* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.