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[CALL MEETING TO ORDER]

[00:00:06]

ALL RIGHT. IT IS TUESDAY, JUNE 4TH, 2024 AT 6:30 P.M. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE, JUNE MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER. DO WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MISS, PRESENT, MR. EAGLE HERE, MR. FISHER HERE. HERE, MR. MISS. HERE MR. WALLACE HERE. MR. SMITH HERE. THANK YOU, SO WE HAVE, TWO

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

DIFFERENT MEETINGS THAT WE NEED TO APPROVE. THE MINUTES OF, THE FIRST OF WHICH BEING THE APRIL 1ST, 2024 JOINT COUNCIL SESSION MEETING MINUTES. HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW? IS THERE ANYTHING TO ADD. OR ANY COMMENTS? SEEING NONE. MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APRIL 1ST JOINT COUNCIL SESSION. MEETING MINUTES. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED THE SAME. AND SECONDLY, WE HAVE THE MAY 7TH, 2024 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES. AGAIN, HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM AND ARE THERE IS THERE ANYTHING TO ADD OR ANY COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE OPPOSED? THE SAME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS POINT IN THE MEETING, WE WILL BE

[SWEARING OF CITIZENS & APPLICANTS]

SWEARING IN, CITIZENS AND APPLICANTS, IF YOU THINK YOU. THERE'S A SLIGHT CHANCE YOU MAY GET UP AND SPEAK AT SOME POINT THIS EVENING, WE ASK THAT YOU STAND. I WILL SAY A PLEDGE, AND THEN YOU WILL RESPOND WITH, I WILL. AND PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND IF YOU CAN MISS THAT PART. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU DECLARE THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH AND THE WHOLE TRUTH, UNDER THE PAINS AND PENALTIES OF PERJURY AND FALSIFICATION? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE AT THE POINT, FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS. SO IF THERE ARE ANY

[CITIZEN COMMENTS]

CITIZENS HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON A NON AGENDA ITEM, YOU HAVE UP TO FIVE MINUTES, WE JUST ASK THAT YOU SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND, THE FLOOR WOULD BE YOURS. OKAY. NON AGENDA ITEM ON AGENDA ITEM. YES. SO, SO YEAH. JK NOTESTEIN 14240 WEAVER ROAD IN SUNDAY'S DISPATCH THERE WAS AN ARTICLE ABOUT A COMPANY IN EAST COLUMBUS THAT IS MAKING APARTMENT MODULES OUT OF STEEL, MAKING THEM LIKE A CAR ASSEMBLY LINE. I INTENDED TO BRING THAT ARTICLE TONIGHT SO I COULD QUOTE DIRECTLY FROM IT, BUT BEING OLD, I FORGOT. THAT SEEMS TO ME TO BE AN EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFERENT WAY OF MAKING APARTMENTS AND PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO I WOULD URGE THE COMMISSION TO PREPARE FOR ITSELF FOR HOW THAT TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION MIGHT BE USED THROUGHOUT THE AREA. I KNOW YOU WILL, SIR. I THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON NON-AGENDA ITEM? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO, REPORT OF THE

[REPORT OF ADMINISTRATION]

ADMINISTRATION. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE, A SLIGHT UPDATE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT WITH, CITY COUNCIL AND ALSO THROUGH, PLANNING COMMISSION, DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, JUST ABOUT SOME OF OUR KIND OF DESIGN STANDARDS, WHEN WE'VE GONE THROUGH OUR EVALUATION OF OUR CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS KIND OF KEEPING THAT TOP OF THEIR MINDS AS WE START TO HAVE THESE APPLICATIONS COME THROUGH FOR NEW, LARGE DEVELOPMENTS, THINKING MORE HOLISTICALLY AT THE DESIGN STANDARDS RELATED TO CONNECTIVITY, OPEN SPACE, CREATING THOSE KIND OF GREAT INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITY SPACES AND NOT JUST KIND OF YOUR STANDARD NEIGHBORHOOD SUBDIVISION. SO JUST KIND OF KEEP THAT IN MIND. I KNOW COUNCIL STARTING TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS RELATED TO THAT AND KIND OF THE OVERALL VISION OF THE COMMUNITY. AND SO JUST JUST KIND OF WANTED TO BRING THAT UP TONIGHT BEFORE WE GET INTO SOME OF THESE APPLICATIONS.

THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US INTO NEW BUSINESS, THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR NEW BUSINESS IS

[1. To hear an application for a Final Plat for Adena Pointe Section 10 Phase 3 located between Weaver Road and London Ave. and Zoned as Suburban Residential District]

TO HEAR AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PLAT OF ADINA POINT SECTION TEN, PHASE THREE, LOCATED BETWEEN WEAVER ROAD AND LONDON AVENUE AND ZONED AS SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, DO WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE TO PRESENT TO US? STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND THE FLOOR IS

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YOURS. ALL RIGHT, ELI COWAN, 2800 CORPORATE EXCHANGE DRIVE, COLUMBUS, OHIO, SUITE 400, I'M I'M WITH CSO, THE ENGINEERING CONSULTANT OF THE PROJECT, ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT, AND WE APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL OF THIS FINAL PLAT, SECTION TEN, PART THREE OF ADINA POINT DEVELOPMENT'S LAST PHASE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, AND IS LOCATED NORTH OF ADINA POINT DRIVE AND EAST OF WOODLAWN DRIVE, BEING AN EXTENSION OF ADINA POINT, SECTION TEN, PART ONE AND TWO. SECTION TEN, PART THREE IS COMPRISED OF 36 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS. AND A COMMENT RESPONSE LETTER AND UPDATED. FINAL PLAT WAS SENT TO CITY STAFF YESTERDAY, JUNE 3RD, AFTER RECEIPT OF THE STAFF REPORT, I WANTED TO ADDRESS SOME COMMENTS. CLARIFICATIONS REQUESTED BY PLANNING AND ZONING AND ENGINEERING STAFF, A 20 FOOT WIDE, SIDEWALK EASEMENT HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE FINAL PLAT, CENTERED, BETWEEN LOTS. 73 AND 74 FOR FUTURE SHARED USE PATH, AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.

INFORMATION HAS BEEN UPDATED TO CORRECT SPELLING ERROR. AND THEN THERE WAS A QUESTION ON DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND THE FINAL PLAT ON LOT NUMBERS, AND IT WAS SIMPLY, ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, THE WHOLE SUBDIVISION WAS, NUMBERED CLOCK. YEAH, CLOCKWISE AS A WHOLE. AND THEN WHEN WE GOT TO THE FINAL PLAT OF PART ONE AND TWO, WE DID EACH PART CLOCKWISE. AND SO THAT'S THE DISCREPANCY ON THE, ON THE LOT NUMBERS, AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE. OKAY, YEAH, THE STAFF SENT OUT, THE REVISION THIS AFTERNOON IF EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT. BUT SAW THAT YOU PICKED UP ANY ITEMS THAT THEY HAD, AND, I DON'T THINK I HAD ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. I'LL OPEN UP TO THE REST OF THE BOARD. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT, WELL, THEN, WE WILL OPEN UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS AND THEN GO FROM THERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, IF SO, YOU HAVE UP TO FIVE MINUTES. I THINK THIS ONE'S AN EASY ONE TODAY. SO ALL RIGHT, SO SEEING NO ONE, WHAT IS THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION? DO WE? I WOULD, VOTE FOR APPROVAL. I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? ALL OVER. ALL RIGHT, CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? SORRY, MORRIS , WE NEED, MR. FISHER. YES, MISS LAUB. YES MR. STOYAN. HI. MR. NICKERSON. YES, MISS BURGESS. YES, MR. WOLOWITZ. YES, MR. ENGEL. YES CONGRATULATIONS, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

[2. To hear an application for a Planned Unit Development (PUD) Sketch Plan application for a development known as Marysville South located at Parcels with ID numbers of 2900300600000, 2900300470000, 2900300480000, 2900300560010, 2900300670000, 2900230740000, 2900230560000, 2900230731000, 2900300521050, 2900300500000.]

ALL RIGHT. THE SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO HEAR AN APPLICATION FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT BEAUTY, SKETCH PLAN, APPLICATION FOR A DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS MARYSVILLE SOUTH, LOCATED AT PARCELS WITH ID NUMBERS. OF 2900300600000029003004700002900, 029003006700002900230740000. 29002305600002900230731000290030 .

AND 2900300500000. I'M SORRY THAT JUST DID THAT TO YOU. I MEAN, I THINK YOU MISSED THE ZERO. I KNOW, I KNOW IN THE PAST LIKE I DO HAVE TO READ THE I DO HAVE TO READ THESE RIGHT? YES.

EVERYONE BEFORE ME HAD ALWAYS READ IT, SO I ASSUMED I HAD TO. SO. ALL RIGHT, I SEE, IF YOU COULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND, THE FLOOR WOULD BE YOURS. OH, MY. JUST A SECOND. JUST JUST AN UPDATE FOR EVERYBODY HERE. SO WE. I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL THIS MORNING FROM SAINT MARY'S CEMENT COMPANY, THEY ARE BASED OUT OF CHICAGO. THE REPRESENTATIVE, THEY'VE GOTTEN A LEGAL NOTICE,

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SO THEY PREPARED A LETTER. I PROVIDED IT WITH THE COMMISSION, BASED ON THEIR COMMENTS, THEY TOOK IT AS IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR PUD, SO I NOTIFIED THEM THAT IT WAS NOT RESIDENTIAL, SO THEY'RE REPLY WAS THAT THE FIRST AND SECOND POINTS ARE PROBABLY LESS CRITICAL, BASED ON THE CLARIFICATION, THEIR CONCERN WOULD BE THE STORMWATER WATER RETENTION, BUT THAT WOULD BE WORKED OUT WITH ENGINEERING, DURING THE DESIGN REVIEW AND FINAL ENGINEERING PROCESS, THEY JUST WANT TO BE KIND OF INVOLVED WITH IT, WITH IT, IF POSSIBLE, SO THAT JUST WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THAT BEFORE MATT SPOKE AND JUST FOR LOW BACKGROUND, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF THEM, THE FIRST ITEM WAS JUST NOISE, DUST AND LIGHT FROM THEM. YEP. AND, AND THEN THERE'S A LAKE THAT PEOPLE GO FISHING ON THAT'S TRESPASS ON THEIR PROPERTY. AND THINKING THAT IT WAS RESIDENTIAL THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD WELCOME MORE.

SO. YEAH. PLEASE. OKAY MATT MCQUADE, 129 NORTH MAIN STREET, MARYSVILLE, OHIO. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE MARYSVILLE LAND COMPANY, WHICH IS A SUBSIDIARY OF THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, AND PRESENTING OUR SKETCH PLAN FOR THE MARYSVILLE SOUTH PUD, JEFF, COULD I POSSIBLY GET, THE SCREEN? DO YOU WANT TO PRESENT? YEAH. SO I'VE ACTUALLY I'VE GOT SOME SLIDES, IF THAT'S OKAY THAT I THINK. ARE YOU PLUGGED IN? I AM, YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED CONDITIONS, BUT BEFORE, I DO THAT, I WANT TO START WITH JUST TALKING ABOUT THE OBJECTIVES OF THE PUD IS AS STATED BY MARYSVILLE ON THE WEBSITE, AND I'M NOT GOING TO READ THROUGH THESE, ONE BY ONE, BUT BUT IN TERMS OF, HOW IT'S FRAMED, OUR PLAN FOR MARYSVILLE SOUTH ONE, AS YOU'LL SEE, AND WE'LL GET INTO THIS IS A SITE WITH UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS. WE'RE NOT THE FIRST TO IDENTIFY THAT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THE CITY NUMEROUS TIMES, MOST RECENTLY IN THE 2023 THOROUGHFARE PLAN, MARYSVILLE SOUTH HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE, A MAJOR ECONOMIC ASSET FOR THE CITY. BUT BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT BEING UNIQUE, IT'S A CHALLENGE TO UNTAP THAT POTENTIAL. AND WE THINK THAT OUR PUD IS PART OF THE SOLUTION TO UNLOCKING THE SITE'S POTENTIAL, BUT ALSO THE FLEXIBILITY ALLOWED IN THE PUD PUT US IN THE BEST POSITION TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF CONFORMS BEST WITH SURROUNDING USES. MOST NOTABLY, MOST EXCUSE ME, MOST NOTICEABLY, MOST NOTABLY RESIDENTIAL OFF OF WEAVER ROAD. SO THIS IS THE SITE, THE SUBJECT SITE. IT'S, CLOSE TO 600 ACRES, 588 IN TOTAL. AND IT'S A LARGE SITE THAT HAS A LOT OF ATTRIBUTES THAT MAKE IT COMPELLING, ONE, DIMENSIONS ARE GOOD, SIZE IS GOOD, THERE IS LARGE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AREA BASED ON THE INDUSTRIAL USES THAT NEIGHBOR IT TO THE EAST ALONG INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY. IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE US 33 SCOTLAND INTERCHANGE, YOU HAVE LARGE ELECTRIC POWER RUNNING THROUGH THE SITE RIGHT NOW. AND THE DERBY SUBSTATION LOCATED ON INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY RIGHT NEXT DOOR. SO WHEN YOU JUST LOOK AT THOSE THINGS IN ISOLATION, IT'S A GOOD SITE. AND HONESTLY, WHEN I WAS STILL AT ONE, COLUMBUS OR COLUMBUS 2020, THIS IS A SITE THAT WE TOOK A LOOK AT QUITE A BIT, NOT AS CLOSELY AS YOU WOULD AS A DEVELOPER, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS ALWAYS IN THE CONVERSATION FOR INDUSTRIAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE COLUMBUS REGION, BUT VERY RARELY WE MADE IT TO THE POINT WHERE WE EVEN GOT A SITE VISIT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT ORIGIN MALT WAS LOOKING THERE AT ONE POINT, BUT THAT WAS THE RARE OPPORTUNITY THAT WOULD WORK ON THE PROPERTY AT THAT TIME. ASIDE FROM THOSE ASSETS, THERE ARE SOME MAJOR CONSTRAINTS. WITH ACCESS CHALLENGES BEING AT THE TOP OF THE LIST. YOU'VE GOT THE UNION COUNTY AIRPORT TO THE NORTH, YOU'VE GOT THE RAILROAD LINE THAT SERVES AS THE SITE'S EASTERN BOUNDARY AND, ONLY AN AT GRADE CROSSING CONNECTS THE SITE TO INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY AND THEN TO US 33, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY TO THE WEST YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL ALONG WEAVER ROAD. IT IS ALREADY ZONED FOR MANUFACTURING. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS PRETTY IMPORTANT TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, BECAUSE THIS PUD IS NOT, SIGNIFICANT. ALTERING THE PERMITTED USE, THE PERMITTED USES ON THE SITE OR THE CONDITIONAL USES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN YOU LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT BARRIERS TO THIS SITE, THIS ITSELF POSES A CHALLENGE JUST BECAUSE THERE IS

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A REALLY GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A USER THAT, IF THE SITE WORKS FOR THEM, MAY WANT TO LOCATE STRADDLING BOTH OF THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS, WHICH WOULD PROPOSE A CHALLENGE. IT'S A TIMING CHALLENGE, BUT TIME IS MONEY, AND THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT GOES AS A RISK IN THE MODEL AND IS NOT OPTIMAL. SO ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT A PUD PROVIDES IS, IS ALLOWING US TO TAKE THE ELEMENTS FROM THE TWO ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WE THINK MAY MAKE THE MOST SENSE FOR THE SITE, GIVEN ITS EXISTING CONDITIONS, AND, AND PUT TOGETHER A DISTRICT, THAT TAKES THOSE INTO ACCOUNT AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER, CONFORMS BEST WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. BUT THIS IS AN AREA IN AREA THAT IS PLANNED FOR MANUFACTURING. AND OBVIOUSLY, ONE OF THE THINGS, THAT WE LOOK CLOSELY AT WHEN WE STARTED PLANNING FOR THE SITE AND PUTTING THIS SKETCH PLAN TOGETHER, WAS HOW IT CONFORMS WITH THE MARYSVILLE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND THIS IS AN AREA, THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AND PLANNED FOR INDUSTRY, SPECIFICALLY MANUFACTURING AND WAREHOUSING AND WAREHOUSING IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS A DEVELOPER, THE MARYSVILLE LAND COMPANY OR THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY PLACES A BIG FOCUS ON. BUT JUST IN GENERAL, WHEN THE CITY HAS LOOKED AT THAT, THIS SITE, THAT IS WHAT IT HAS ENVISIONED THERE, REGARDLESS, OF SOME OF THOSE CONSTRAINTS. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS TO LEVERAGE THE PUD OR USE THE PUD TO CAPITALIZE ON THE HEAVY INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AREA, AND TAKE WHAT WE VIEW AS THE BEST ELEMENTS OF THE LMD AND MANUFACTURING AND INNOVATION ZONING DISTRICTS, AND TURN IT INTO THE MARYSVILLE SOUTH PUD, WHILE ALSO INCLUDING ENHANCED SETBACKS AND BUFFERS ALONG WEAVER ROAD. BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S THE ONE AREA THAT DOES NOT CONFORM WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. THAT IS LARGELY TO THE EAST OF THE SITE. SO I WANTED TO PUT THE OBJECTIVES FOR THE PUD BACK UP THERE AND THEN, PUT THOSE UP NEXT TO WHAT OUR OBJECTIVES ARE FOR THE MARYSVILLE SOUTH PUD. AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THAT'S REALLY ALIGNING THE STANDARDS WITH THE SITE'S UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS BY BLENDING TWO EXISTING ZONING DISTRICTS INTO ONE THAT WILL PUT THE PROPERTY IN A BETTER POSITION TO ATTRACT, MOST LIKELY A LESS INTENSIVE END USER, THAT IS NOT DETERRED BY SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS THAT HAVE BEEN REFERENCED. BY DOING SO, YOU'RE PUTTING THE PROPERTY IN THE BEST POSITION TO CREATE JOBS FOR RESIDENTS, INCOME FOR AREA BUSINESSES, AND REVENUE FOR THE SCHOOLS AND AT THE SAME TIME, MINIMIZING THE IMPACT ON WEAVER, WHICH I PROMISE I WILL GET TO THAT PLAN SHORTLY, BUT WANTED TO GET THROUGH THE EXISTING CONDITIONS FIRST. BUT LET'S GET TO THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS, SO YOU ALL KNOW, WE, IMPLEMENTED A PUD FOR THE MARYSVILLE EAST DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE A PART OF , AND THAT WAS AN INTERESTING PROCESS THAT THAT AREA DID NOT HAVE SOME OF THE SAME PHYSICAL CONSTRAINTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH MARYSVILLE SOUTH, BUT THERE WAS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, BUXTON MEADOWS, RIGHT NEXT DOOR, AND THROUGH OUR DIALOG WITH THOSE RESIDENTS, ANOTHER BENEFIT OF THE PUD IS IT GAVE US THE AGILITY TO CONTINUE WITH THE RIGHT ZONING CODE, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WERE LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD THERE. WELL, AT THE SAME TIME, GIVING US A TON OF FLEXIBILITY TO SCREEN AND BUFFER OUR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FROM BUXTON MEADOWS AND, A LOT OF WHAT YOU SEE HERE, ALL OF WHAT YOU SEE ACTUALLY, IN TERMS OF PERMITTED AND CONDITIONAL USES, THESE ARE WHAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IN MARYSVILLE EAST. AND THEN WHEN WE WALK THROUGH OUR BUFFERING PLAN, OR AT LEAST OUR PRELIMINARY BUFFERING PLAN, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF SIMILARITIES TO WHAT WE DID THERE AS WELL. SO IN TERMS OF PROPOSED CONDITIONS, AND I HAVE A CHART AT THE END HERE THAT SHOWS WHAT THE EXISTING CODE ALLOWS TODAY. BUT OUR GENERAL SETBACKS AND THESE ARE LARGELY GOING TO APPLY TO THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN BOUNDARIES OF THE SITE, WHICH ARE MORE SIMILAR USES TO WHAT WE MAY BE PLANNING HERE. NOT THE EXACT SAME, BUT THEY'RE MORE INDUSTRIAL IN NATURE. WILL BE 50FT FOR PAVEMENT, 100FT FOR BUILDINGS, WHERE THE SETBACKS WILL BE ENHANCED ARE ALONG WEAVER ROAD AND THE SITE HAS A BIT OF AN ODD SHAPE ON THE WESTERN BOUNDARY. AND THE CORPORATION LINE FOR THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. ALSO, WHEN YOU'RE ON WEAVER ROAD, KIND OF RUNS EAST WEST THROUGH THERE, AND THE SITE HAS DIFFERENT DEPTHS OFF OF WEAVER ROAD IN DIFFERENT AREAS. SO THE BEST WAY WE PLAN TO DO THIS RIGHT NOW IS, FROM THE WEAVER ROAD CENTER LINE FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, WE'RE TAKING A 400 FOOT BUILDING AND PAVEMENT SETBACK FROM WEAVER ROAD. AND THESE THESE RESIDENTIAL LOTS ARE ACTUALLY WITHIN, THE LMD DISTRICT TO BEGIN WITH. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE USED AS RESIDENTIAL LOTS, BUT THEY ARE ZONED FOR LIGHT MANUFACTURING. IF YOU GO FURTHER

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SOUTH, INTO THE TOWNSHIP WHERE THE LOTS START GETTING A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, 400FT FROM WEAVER ROAD TAKES YOU TO THE MIDDLE OF THOSE LOTS. IT DOESN'T EVEN GET YOU ONTO OUR SITE. SO WE'RE PROPOSING 150 FOOT PAVEMENT AND 200 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK FOR THOSE AREAS THAT BORDER THE UNINCORPORATED RESIDENTIAL LOTS OFF OF WEAVER. ONE OF THE MORE NOTABLE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE HAVE OF IN THIS PLAN IS CURRENTLY THE HEIGHT LIMITATION IS 50FT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THAT UP TO 70FT JUST BECAUSE THAT'S MORE IN LINE WITH MARKET FOR THESE TYPES OF BUILDINGS RIGHT NOW. AND WE DON'T WANT TO PAINT OURSELVES INTO A CORNER FOR A HEIGHT LIMITATION THAT DOESN'T WORK IN THE MARKET. AND FOR THE COMPANIES THAT WE'RE HOPEFULLY GOING TO BE TALKING TO IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE, I WILL SAY THAT WE MET WITH THE UNION COUNTY AIRPORT LAST WEEK FOR THE FIRST TIME AND GAVE THEM, A LITTLE BIT OF A PRIMER TO WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TODAY, AND LOOKED AT THE REGULATIONS, BASED ON THE, HORIZONTAL SURFACE AND EVERYTHING TO THE SOUTH, WHICH ENCOMPASSES OUR SITES AND THIS STILL GIVES A LOT OF ROOM, BETWEEN WHAT, WOULD MAKE THE AIRPORT NERVOUS, AND WHAT WE BELIEVE PUTS THIS SITE IN THE MOST COMPETITIVE POSITION. SO YOU HAVE, YOU'RE PROPOSING A WIRELESS TOWER, THOUGH? OUR WIRELESS, OUR WIRELESS TOWERS OVER 70FT. WELL, SO THERE'S ONE THAT'S WITHIN THE SITE RIGHT NOW OFF OF INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY. IT'S ACTUALLY PROBABLY ON THE DRUM PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS. BUT, IF A WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER, IS PROHIBITIVE FOR ANY REASON, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WILLING TO, TO TALK ABOUT AND EITHER CHANGE OR MODIFY. BUT THAT WAS JUST PULLED FROM THE MARYSVILLE EAST TEXT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND BY THE WAY, WITH MARYSVILLE EAST, YOU'RE ACTUALLY HAVING PLANES TAKE OFF AND APPROACH THERE, AT THE SAME TIME. SO IF IT WASN'T AN ISSUE FOR MARYSVILLE EAST AND SINCE THIS IS SOUTH OF THE AIRPORT WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT SAME TYPE OF ACTIVITY, I'D WONDER WHY IT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE HERE OR NOT THERE. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE OPEN TO IT. WE JUST TOOK IT FROM MARYSVILLE EAST FOR THAT REASON. OKAY, SO THIS IS OUR OUR PROPOSED PLAN THAT SHOWS THE UPDATED SETBACKS, I'M GOING TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT A FEW OTHER THINGS BEFORE WE, GET INTO THE SETBACKS. BUT OUR OBJECTIVE IS FOR PRIMARY SITE ACCESS TO COME FROM SCOTTS LAWN ROAD. THAT'S NOT BEEN FINALIZED, AT THE SAME TIME, WE WOULD ENVISION THERE'S A 12 INCH WATER LINE THAT RUNS ALONG SCOTTS LAWN THAT WOULD FOLLOW THE ACCESS ROAD WHEREVER IT THE FINAL ALIGNMENT IS INTO THE SITE. WATER AND SEWER WOULD COME FROM FURTHER NORTH OFF OF INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY. AND LIKE I SAID, POWER IS ALREADY ON SITE. AND THEN YOU SEE THE UPDATED SETBACKS ON THIS, ON THIS RENDERING AS WELL. WITH THE 400FT TO THE NORTH, THIS THIS GIVES A BETTER ARTICULATION OF WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS, WHAT ACTUALLY IS PROPOSED COMPARED TO JUST READING IT OFF OF A BULLET, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE 400FT FROM WEAVER FOR THOSE AREAS THAT ARE IN THE INCORPORATED, ON THE INCORPORATED SIDE OF THE LINE.

AND THEN FOR THOSE THAT ARE SOUTH THAT HAVE THOSE MUCH DEEPER LOTS, AND THE SITE IS FURTHER OFF THE ROAD TO BEGIN WITH, YOU'VE GOT THE 150 AND 200FT, FROM THE BOUNDARY. IN TERMS OF, BUFFERING AND SCREENING, AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE TOOK FROM OUR EXPERIENCE WITH BUXTON MEADOWS. WE ARE PROPOSING FOR, ON THE PERIMETER BOUNDARIES ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL. SO AGAIN, OFF OF WEAVER, LARGELY, A MINIMUM SIX FOOT MOUND, THAT WOULD HAVE HAVE, PLANTING MATERIALS ON TOP OF IT. SO A MIX OF, TREES, EVERGREENS, BUSHES WITHIN FOUR YEARS, REACHING 80, 80% OPACITY, AND A TOTAL HEIGHT FROM GROUND LEVEL OF TEN FEET ABOVE GROUND. SO YOU GOT A SIX FOOT MOUND PLANNING ON TOP, IN ADDITION TO THE SETBACKS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO BUFFER RESIDENTIAL FROM THE MARYSVILLE SOUTH, PUD, THE ONE THING THAT I WANT TO REALLY CALL OUT ON THIS SLIDE ARE THE SETBACKS. SO TODAY, BECAUSE THIS SITE IS ZONED IN TWO DIFFERENT MANUFACTURING DISTRICTS, YOU COULD HAVE SOMEBODY BUILD 40FT FROM THE ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO TAKE THAT BACK SUBSTANTIALLY, AND ALSO PUT IN, SCREENING AT THE SAME TIME. NOW THERE'S QUITE A BIT TO FIGURE OUT WITH THE SITE. I MENTIONED ALL THE PROS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT, ACCESS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT. BUT ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PRIORITIES IS MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE PRESERVING WEAVER ROAD AS A RESIDENTIAL ROAD, AND WE ARE BUFFERING RESIDENTS ON WEAVER ROAD FROM THIS PUD, AND WE THINK GIVEN WHAT'S CURRENTLY ALLOWABLE, THAT THIS IS A GOOD

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PLAN. I'LL STOP THERE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE A QUESTION, HAVE YOU BEEN IN CONTACT WITH CSX RAILROAD AND HAVE YOU DO YOU ANTICIPATE HAVING A RAIL SPUR OR A POTENTIAL RAIL SPUR INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT? THAT WE COULD, BUT WE'RE TOO EARLY IN, IN OUR PLANNING RIGHT NOW TO KNOW THAT DEFINITIVELY. WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO, RUSTY AUBURN, WHO MANAGES GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AT CSX AS WELL AS ADAM HESS, WHO'S THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR CSX OVERSEEING THE STATE OF OHIO. JUST ABOUT OUR PLANS FOR THE SITE AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AND WE CONTINUE TO ENVISION IT AS AN INDUSTRIAL SITE, BUT IT'S TOO EARLY TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A RAIL SPUR. BUT THERE IS CAPACITY THERE FOR THEM TO EXTEND ONE IF IT IS NEEDED. THEN MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION WAS WITH THE ELECTRICAL EASEMENT, THE 50 FOOT THAT'S GOING TO BE RELOCATED, WHAT TYPE OF UTILITIES ARE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THERE, IF ANY? AND HOW DO YOU ANTICIPATE RELOCATING THAT EASEMENT? SO WE'RE IN PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH UTILITIES RIGHT NOW. THE ELECTRICAL THERE'S TWO SEPARATE ELECTRIC LINES THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THERE RIGHT NOW. AND WE'RE HAVING INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS ON BOTH OF THOSE, SIMILAR TO MY ANSWER WITH CSX, WHERE WE'RE STILL PRELIMINARY IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS. BUT ARE, STARTING ENGINEERING TO PROPOSE SOME SOLUTIONS FOR THAT. MR. CHAIR, WHEN WE DECIDED SIX FOOT MOUNDS, FOR BOOTY MOUNDS, DID WE DECIDE TOP OF CURB? TOP OF PAVEMENT. WHAT? WHERE WHERE ARE WE GETTING THE SIX FOOT FROM? IS IT FROM TOP OF PAVEMENT? REMEMBER, JEFF, DO YOU REMEMBER WHERE WE'RE GETTING THE SIX FOOT HEIGHT? I THINK IT'S GREAT. YEAH GREAT. OKAY. AND YES. YEAH. SO AND FOR THE MARYSVILLE EASTERN. YEAH. SO THERE WAS A DETAIL THAT THEY PROVIDED LIKE A TYPICAL SECTION. THAT'S WHAT WE WERE REFERENCING. AND I THINK IT'S FROM THAT TOP GRADE ADJACENT TO THE, THE EDGE OF THE MOUNTAIN AND ON THE, SKETCH PLAN, NOT, THERE'S THE, THE WHERE'S THAT, THE EASEMENT FOR THE FUTURE MARYSVILLE ROAD. WHAT I SAW YOU REFERENCED, I HEARD YOU REFERENCE IT, BUT YOU LOST ME WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT.

SO IT'S ON THE SOUTH. SO. AND OUR INTENTION IS FOR PRIMARY SIDE ACCESS TO BE OFF OF SCOTTS LAWN. WE HAVE NOT FINALIZED AN ALIGNMENT YET. SO GIVEN THAT WE'RE IN SKETCH RIGHT NOW, WE FELT LIKE OUR BEST RECOURSE IS JUST TO SHOW ON THE MAP THAT THAT'S WHERE WE INTEND TO ACCESS THE SITE FROM. BUT THE ACTUAL ALIGNMENTS NOT YET BEEN FINALIZED. WHAT IS THAT PROCESS? I GUESS I CAN YOU GIVE US HIGH LEVEL? SURE. LAND NEGOTIATE PLANS, BUT ALSO LOGISTICS DOES MATTER. THE LOCATION DOES MATTER. SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ALIGNMENTS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING RIGHT NOW AND TALKING TO PROPERTY OWNERS ABOUT, AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BEST ONE IS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I SEE YOU DO HAVE NOTED ON THE LITTLE SPURS THAT GO OUT TO WEAVER. POTENTIAL EMPLOYEE AND EMERGENCY ACCESS, NO TRUCKS. CORRECT THAT'S THAT'S A NICE TOUCH. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE RESIDENTS ON WEAVER KNOW THAT, BUT THEY ARE CALLING OUT NO TRUCK ENTRANCES ON WEAVER ROAD. IS THAT JUST GOING TO BE LIKE A GATE KIND OF ACCESS KEY CARD? A LOT OF IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON THE ACTUAL END USER, SOME MAY NOT NEED IT, SOME, BECAUSE OF THEIR OPERATIONS, WILL WANT TO AT LEAST HAVE EMERGENCY ACCESS OR SECONDARY ACCESS POINT IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH THE PRIMARY ACCESS POINT, WE DO NOT ENVISION THAT BEING A HIGH TRAFFIC ENTRANCE OR EXIT IS THE MAIN POINT. AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT IS GOING TO BE FIGURED OUT IN IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY WHEN THERE IS AN END USER THAT'S SUBMITTING THEIR PLANS, AND WORKING ON THOSE ACCESS POINTS OFFICIALLY, WE JUST FELT THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HAVE ON THE RECORD THAT WE DO NOT INTEND TO USE WEAVER ROAD AS A PRIMARY ACCESS POINT. WE WOULD LIKE TO DIVERT AS MUCH TRAFFIC FROM IT AS POSSIBLE, AS FAR AS THE EASEMENTS, LIKE, I APPRECIATE THE, DIFFICULTIES WITH THE SHAPE OF THIS AREA, THOUGH IT SEEMS LIKE THE, I BELIEVE IT'S PROBABLY THE LAST TWO PROPERTIES, IN MARYSVILLE, THAT 400FT IS PROBABLY ONLY. I MEAN, THERE'S NOT A MEASUREMENT, BUT MAYBE LIKE 50FT OR SOMETHING OFF. YOU KNOW, IF YOU COULD BUMP THAT OUT. I MEAN, LIKE, GENEROUS WITH THE EASEMENTS OUT EVERYWHERE ELSE, BUT, YOU KNOW, DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE, THEY MAY BE HERE. THEM SOON, BUT, I, I WOULD THINK THAT, AT LEAST 150FT, WOULD LIKE TO SEE. OKAY. MR. CHAIR, WHERE ARE YOU SEEING THAT AT, YEAH. JUST GRAPHICALLY, IT LOOKS

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TIGHTER. I THINK IT'S I THINK IT STAYS 150. OH, NO, IT'S 400 FROM WEAVER THERE. BECAUSE IT'S IN THE CORPORATION. GOTCHA, GOTCHA. BUT THAT MAY ONLY BE 50FT OR SO. YEAH, I SEE THAT NOW. NOTED OKAY. THANK YOU. LET'S SEE. YEAH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THANKS. I HAD WRITTEN DOWN ABOUT , DISCUSS THE PROCESS OF GETTING ACCESS TO SKYLON CONCERNS, A FIGHT NEAR THE AIRPORT. SO. SO YOU HAVE TALKED, WITH THE AIRPORT AND THEN BUFFERING. SO, MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, SIR, WITH THE BUILDING HEIGHT INCREASE FROM 50 TO 70FT, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO ALSO INCREASE THE STANDARD SIX FOOT BERM AND VEGETATION GROWTH INCREMENTS TO GROW WITH THAT 50 TO 70, AS WELL AS A RATIO? THOUGHTS FROM THE BOARD MAYBE. I THINK MARYSVILLE EAST, IT WAS 70 WITH THAT SIX FOOT BERM. MARYSVILLE EAST WE ACTUALLY DID A 12 FOOT MOUND, BUT THAT WAS AT THE REQUEST OF THE RESIDENTS, I'M NOT SURE THAT A 12 FOOT MOUND IS EVERYBODY'S JAM. SO I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE OPEN TO MAKING MODIFICATIONS TO THE PLAN, BUT WE FELT THAT SIX WAS JUST THE, THE RIGHT STARTING POINT. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS PRETTY CLOSE TO A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS. I MEAN, I GET THE 400FT. THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT ONCE WE GET INTO THE CITY LIMITS IS WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME ISSUES. JUST FROM RESIDENT COMMENTS IN THE PAST.

OKAY, SO I, I GUESS WE'LL SEE WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY. I MEAN, I. SURE. GO AHEAD. BUT IT DOES MATCH MARYSVILLE EAST, WHETHER IT'S RIGHT, RIGHT OR WRONG. MY CONCERN IS I THINK THE DATA I MEAN, I GET IT, IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL AREA AND WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, GROW AND EXPAND. BUT I THINK WITH A I KNOW THAT THAT'S A USE THAT'S ON THERE AS A DATA CENTER. YEAH. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE GIS MAP, THERE'S NOT A TON OF RESIDENTIAL. THERE'S THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ACROSS WEAVER, THERE'S INDIVIDUAL PARCELS HERE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT 400 FOOT SETBACK.

SOUTH. I APPRECIATE IT SINCE I'M SOUTH UP THERE RIGHT. SHE WAS SHE MENTIONED RESIDENTS IN THE CITY. SO I'M SHOWING WHAT'S IN THE CITY BOUNDARIES WITH THAT BUFFERING COMMENT. SO IT WOULD BE SETBACK. COULD IT BE SETBACK FOR YOUR FEET FROM WEAVER ON IT? IT'LL BE 400FT FROM HERE. SO THIS IS ABOUT THESE ARE ABOUT 300 AND ABOUT 340 FROM THE CENTER LINE TO THE BACK OF THIS.

SO I REQUESTED THAT ADDITIONAL BUFFER. WELL WE'LL WE'LL GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD ON THAT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH. OKAY. WELL SINCE YOU THIS IS A FOLLOW UP ON THE DEVELOPMENT TAX, ONE OF THE ONES THAT I WOULD QUESTION IS THAT PUBLIC SERVICES AND UTILITIES, WHICH WOULD BE, ELECTRICAL SUBSTATIONS, YOU'RE INCLUDING THAT IN THE TEXT. AND I'M QUESTIONING WHY WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE THAT ON THIS SITE. SURE AND THEN I'LL FOLLOW UP THE DATA CENTER. I ALSO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AND THE WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS ANTENNA FACILITY AND TOWER. I THINK WE COULD TAKE I WOULD SUGGEST POTENTIALLY MAKING THE WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS A CONDITIONAL USE, EVEN THE SUBSTATION, IF YOU WOULD NEED IT FOR YOUR FACILITY, THAT SHOULD BE A CONDITIONAL USE. SO THEY COULD AT LEAST COME FROM THE BOARD TO SEE WHAT THEIR WHAT YOU'RE ANTICIPATING. AND THEN ON THE CONDITIONAL USE THE RECYCLING CENTERS. WHAT WHAT'S YOUR VISION OF A RECYCLING CENTER. LET ME LET ME TAKE THOSE IN ORDER. SO I'M I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO START WITH THE SUBSTATION. SO IF YOU LOOK AT INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY THESE DAYS THERE'S A COUPLE OF TRENDS. ONE, CAPITAL INVESTMENTS GOING UP BECAUSE OF I, EMPLOYMENT IS GENERALLY GOING DOWN. WAGES ARE GOING UP ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE JOBS, THE POWER DEMANDS OF THESE FACILITIES HAS ALSO GONE UP QUITE A BIT AS WELL, BASED ON THE AUTOMATED EQUIPMENT THAT THEY'RE USING. AND I HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT AS WELL. SO IT IS PROBABLE THAT YOU COULD LAND A DIGITAL MANUFACTURING OPERATION ON THE SITE OR A DATA CENTER THAT HAS A POWER DEMAND SUCH THAT THEY REQUIRE THEIR OWN ON SITE SUBSTATION. SO WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING TRENDS THAT ALIGN WITH THE TYPES OF PERMITTED USES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT WE CAN

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DISCUSS THAT INTERNALLY AND EITHER COME BACK WITH ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ON IT OR IF WE DO FEEL COMFORTABLE MOVING IT TO A CONDITIONAL USE, THEN WE'LL DO THAT, RECYCLING CENTERS, THAT WE ARE NOT THINKING OF TAKING, YOU KNOW, YOUR PLASTICS, YOUR NEWSPAPERS, YOUR, YOUR BOXES AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND, AND HAVING A RECYCLING CENTER ON THE SITE, WE ARE ACTUALLY MORE THINKING OF THINGS LIKE THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY, WHICH IS BECOMING MORE ELECTRIFIED, AND RECYCLING THOSE BATTERIES IS A NEXT BIG EVOLUTION IN THE INDUSTRY, WHICH TEND TO BE GOOD CAPITAL INVESTMENT, HIGH PAYING JOB OPERATIONS. SO GIVEN THAT MARYSVILLE IS AN AUTOMOTIVE TOWN AND THE EXTENT TO WHICH THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING AN INDUSTRY THAT DRIVES THIS COMMUNITY, WE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO EXCLUDE SOMETHING THAT WE THINK MIGHT BE A VIABLE OPPORTUNITY. YEAH. SO I WAS WONDERING, IS THERE A WAY TO DISTINGUISH THE RECYCLING CENTERS THAT WOULD BE AN ENCLOSED FACILITY, NOT AN OUTDOOR STORAGE FACILITY? I THINK THAT THERE IS A WAY TO DO THAT. THAT WOULD BE MY PROPOSAL. OKAY BE IN FAVOR OF THAT. I THINK, CHAD, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS TALK THIS SUBSTATION SITUATION OUT. I THINK IT SHOULD BE A CONDITIONAL USE FOR PLACEMENT PURPOSES, WE DON'T WE I WOULD THINK IT SHOULD COME IN FRONT OF US AND WE COULD HAVE A SAY OR SEE WHERE IT'S GOING ON, ON THAT BUILDING. SO THE SUBSTATIONS YOU KNOW, NEAR A RESIDENCE. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD JUST HAVE CARTE BLANCHE TO JUST BE ABLE TO PUT IT ANYWHERE OR SOMEONE ELSE. I THINK IT SHOULD BE A CONDITIONAL USE. SO IF IT'S RELATED TO SITE WHERE IT IS ON THE SITE, WE WOULD DEAL WITH THAT AT DESIGN REVIEW BOARD THEN. RIGHT, SO IS THAT IS THAT AN OKAY KIND OF STEP FOR YOU THEN. SO IF IT IS JUST UNDER PERMITTED THEN THEY WOULD HAVE THAT YOU WOULD EVALUATE THAT ACTUAL SITE LOCATION AND HOW THAT LOOKS AND IS SCREENED OR WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT EXACT SITE PLAN IS AT THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD STAGE. I THINK THAT'S FAIR IN A QUESTION, AND THIS MAY BE A MOOT POINT. NOW, BASED ON ASHLEY'S COMMENT, BUT A QUESTION I HAVE IS WHY IS IT A CHALLENGE FOR MARYSVILLE SOUTH? BUT IT WASN'T FOR MARYSVILLE EAST WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS THROUGH. IS THERE SOMETHING ABOUT THE SITE CHARACTERISTICS THAT I'M I'M NOT CONTEMPLATING, I THINK IT'S US BEING MORE EDUCATED AS THESE THESE PROCESSES FLOW THROUGH. OKAY ALL RIGHT. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS SOMETHING UNIQUE TO THE SITE. THE SURROUNDING AREA. I DON'T THINK WE'RE AGAINST A, SUBSTATION BY ANY MEANS. WE JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ADJACENT TO SOMEBODY'S RESIDENCE. OKAY? OR THE PLACEMENT NEXT TO THE BUFFERING. YEAH, RIGHT. OR WITHIN ONE OF THESE DESIGNATED AREAS WHERE IT'S AN EMERGENCY SEA PATH FOR EGRESS OUT. IF IT'S WITHIN THE CONFINEMENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT, I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. YEAH. AND WAS JUST ASKING THE QUESTION NOT TO PUSH BACK, BUT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTOOD THE NATURE OF IT. AS A RESIDENT, I WOULD NOT WANT TO HEAR THE BUZZING OF A SUBSTATION. JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. YEAH, I NOR WOULD I.

CHAD HAD ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THE TOWER. WHAT WAS YOUR. I WOULD I WOULD PROPOSE TO MOVE THAT TO A CONDITIONAL. I'M WHERE IF YOU WERE GOING TO PUT ANOTHER TOWER IN. YEAH. THAT SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE FOR THE SAME REASON. SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SAY ON PLACEMENT. YEAH. OKAY. MR. CHAIR, I DID HAVE. I WANTED TO BRING SOMETHING UP. YES, MA'AM, YOU HAD MENTIONED AND THIS IS, I GUESS, LESS OF A QUESTION AND MORE JUST FOR CONVERSATION ON, THE ACCESS OFF OF SCOTTS LAWN, YOU HAD SAID THAT THERE'S STILL SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH LANDOWNERS BECAUSE THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE AN EASEMENT THERE FOR THAT. BUT CAN YOU TALK US THROUGH WHY SCOTTS LAWN AND NOT INDUSTRIAL, WELL. WELL, THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO OFF OF INDUSTRIAL, WHICH WE LOOKED AT A LOT, IS BUILDING AN OVERPASS, OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS. THE ONLY SCENARIO WHERE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO BUILD AN OVERPASS IS IF YOU CAME IN THROUGH THAT LITTLE SLIVER RIGHT BEFORE INDUSTRIAL CROSSES THE RAILROAD TRACKS NORTH OF OUR SITE, THROUGH THE AIRPORT FENCE, AND THEN DOWN IN.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE OR NOT EVEN LOGICAL, BUT, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THE BETTER SCENARIO THAN HAVING ACCESS DIRECTLY OFF A ROAD THAT HAS A HIGHWAY INTERCHANGE A MILE UP THE STREET. SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH FARTHER TO. YEAH, OTHER PROPERTIES TO TRAVERSE FROM SCOTTS LAWN TO THAT SITE. YEAH, I'LL SAY I'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH RAILROADS AND THEY DON'T LIKE WORKING WITH PEOPLE. SO I MEAN, TO BUILD A ROAD OR. YEAH, I MEAN, ALTHOUGH IF THEY'RE LISTENING, CSX HAS BEEN WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH. I'M SURE THEY HAVE, MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN OUT OF STATE, I GUESS SO,

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BUT YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. CHAIR. YES, SIR, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WITH YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH UNION COUNTY AIRPORT, DID THEY HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH THE DATA CENTER ANTENNAS? ANYTHING JUST FOR FREQUENCIES AND COMMUNICATION TOWER WITH AIRCRAFT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SENSITIVE TO FREQUENCIES IN GENERAL, THEY DID NOT SAY SPECIFICALLY ANYTHING ABOUT DATA CENTERS. I WOULD ACTUALLY ASSUME THAT TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER AND SOMETHING THAT'S EMITTING, LIKE 5G FREQUENCIES WOULD BE MORE PROBLEMATIC THAN THAN A DATA CENTER. BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, DATA CENTER SPECIFICALLY DID NOT COME UP IN YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, DID THEY MENTION, RETENTION PONDS? I KNOW THEY DID. THEY DID. AND WE ARE MEETING WE'RE PRESENTING TO THEIR BOARD IN JULY. SO YOU'RE NOT AT A POINT WHERE YOU. YEAH, JUST JUST MET WITH STEVE FOR THE FIRST TIME TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE HOPEFULLY MOVING IN NEXT DOOR. AND, WANTED TO START THE RELATIONSHIP, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO START GETTING INTO MUCH, DEEPER LEVELS OF DETAIL COME JULY. JUST JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. SO THE OUR CURRENT ZONING CODE DOES HAVE A SECTION THAT, RELATES TO WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS. SO IT DOES HAVE STANDARDS ON THE HEIGHT THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED. AND SETBACKS AND THOSE ITEMS. SO, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I CAN PROVIDE WITH THEM. WHAT SECTION THAT IS. SO THEY CAN LOOK AT IT, SEE IF IT SHOULD BE ALTERED OR IF THEY WANT IT TO FOLLOW OUR CODE. THEY COULD STATE THAT AS WELL, SO MAYBE THE OPTIONS ARE FOLLOWING MARYSVILLE CODE OR HAVING IT CONDITIONAL. YEAH.

BECAUSE IT IS PERMITTED, IT'S PERMITTED IN RMU GOVT OPEN SPACE DISTRICT MANUFACTURING HOSPITAL, MIXED USE LIGHT MANUFACTURING AND MANUFACTURING INNOVATION ZONE. IT IS CONDITIONAL AND HOSPITAL MIXED USE EXCEPT THAT SAYS IT'S CONDITIONAL AND PERMITTED IN TWO DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. SO BUT IT IS PERMITTED IN LIGHT MANUFACTURING AND MANUFACTURING DISTRICTS. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD THIS TIME. AND I DON'T KNOW. DID I STOP YOU DURING YOUR PRESENTATION OR WERE YOU DONE. NO. WE JUST STARTED ON THIS QUESTION. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SO AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS, AS WITH OTHER THINGS, PLEASE GO TO THE PODIUM. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES AND STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, AND YOU'LL HAVE THE FLOOR. GOOD DAY. GOOD EVENING, AMY POTTER. GRIMM 14 294 WEAVER ROAD FOR EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE LEAVE IT IF YOU DON'T MIND. THAT IS MY PROPERTY. THAT IS MY PARENTS PROPERTY. SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE I AM. I DO NOT LIVE IN CITY LIMITS. I'M THE FIRST HOUSE OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS. AND THIS SURE DOES FEEL LIKE 400FT. SOUNDS GREAT FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S IN CITY LIMITS, BUT ONCE YOU CROSS THE LINE, JUST BECAUSE MY LOT IS BIGGER THAN THE AVERAGE LOT, WHICH I PAID FOR, NOW SUDDENLY THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT MY LOT IS AT LEAST 400FT DEEP WHEN THEY'RE PLANNING THIS. AND THAT SURE DOES FEEL LIKE TAKE ONE FOR THE CITY, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE OUTSIDE OF IT. SORRY ABOUT YOUR LUCK. SO MY PARENTS THAT HAVE FARM LAND AND FARMLAND THAT IS STILL GOING TO BE FARMED AFTER THEY PUT THIS IN, WE SURE WOULD LIKE SOME MORE BUFFER AND RECYCLING CENTER. OKAY LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BATTERIES. I LIVE ON A WELL, I DO NOT HAVE CITY WATER. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BRING CITY WATER DOWN MY STREET. AND SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A RECYCLING PLANT BACK THERE POTENTIALLY. CAN WE JUST LOSE IT BECAUSE GUESS WHAT. EVERYBODY SOUTH OF THERE THAT DOESN'T LIVE WITHIN CITY LIMITS.

AND A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT DO LIVE WITHIN CITY LIMITS, WE'RE GOING TO BE REALLY WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A LOT OF TROUBLE. I WAS MAKING NOTES LEFT AND RIGHT. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN THIS PLAN. THE PRIMARY ACCESS POINT. IS NOT FINALIZED YET. WHAT IF THEY CAN'T GET IT? THEN WHAT? ONE, TWO. AND THEN THERE'S A THIRD SPOT. COULD YOU MOVE IT UP A THIRD SPOT? POTENTIALLY, IF WE DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO IN OFF OF THIS, HOW CAN WE APPROVE THIS AND LET IT MOVE ON? I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF LAND BACK THERE. YEARS AGO WHEN THIS WENT TO MANUFACTURING, IT WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE PUTTING IN A BARLEY PLANT. MANY OF YOU DIDN'T EVEN LIVE IN MARYSVILLE AT THAT TIME, BUT THAT'S HOW IT GOT REZONED. AND THEY WERE GOING TO PUT IN A

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BARLEY MANUFACTURING PLANT. AND TOM HAMPTON SOLD THE LAND FOR $3 MILLION. IT IS NOW CHANGED HANDS, CHANGED HANDS, CHANGED HANDS, CHANGED HANDS, AND NOW THEY'VE BUILT THIS. I AM NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT, BUT HOWEVER, I THINK THERE CAN BE SOME MUCH IMPROVED OPTIONS FOR THIS. WE ARE NOT MARYSVILLE EAST GUYS. WE'RE MARYSVILLE SOUTH SO THEY'VE LUMPED US IN WITH MARYSVILLE AND THEY'RE MAKING IT THE REALLY EASY CUT AND PASTE, CUT AND PASTE, CUT AND PASTE.

BUT WE'RE NOT. SO WE DO HAVE THE AIRPORT AS A MAJOR FACTOR IN THIS. WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF FARMLAND THAT IS STILL GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE FARMED AROUND HERE. AND SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CONSIDERATION AND WE NEED TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS BEFORE WE DECIDE WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, GET THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE DO IT. BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? WHAT IF THEY DON'T NEGOTIATE AND THEY HAVE TO PULL IT OFF OF WEAVER ROAD? WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PULL IT IN? THANK YOU GUYS. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK? HE DID? YES. DID NOT? YES YOU WERE HERE WHEN WE SWORE PEOPLE IN, CORRECT? YEAH HE'S.

HE'S FIRST. YEAH, BUT HE HE HAD YOU ADDRESSING ME, SIR? YES, SIR. I DIDN'T HEAR YOUR QUESTION. I WAS JUST ASKING, THERE WAS A CONFUSION WHETHER YOU WERE SWORN IN OR NOT. I THOUGHT YOU HAD BEEN. YOU WERE. DID YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY I WILL? I DID NOT, BUT BY GOLLY, I WILL RIGHT NOW, I WILL. THAT WAS RIGHT. AND I THINK THERE WERE A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE THAT CAME IN. AND, IF YOU PLAN ON SPEAKING, IF YOU COULD STAND UP, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

I WILL, SAY THE OATH AND JUST SIGNAL WITH I WILL CHANGE. I WILL? ALL RIGHT. DO YOU DECLARE THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH AND THE WHOLE TRUTH UNDER THE PAINS AND PENALTIES OF PERJURY AND FALSIFICATION, I WILL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. CHAD THIS WAY PLEASE. THANK YOU, I HAVE COMMENTS ABOUT TWO ITEMS THAT ARE. I KNOW YOU SPOKE EARLIER STILL FOR THE RECORD NAME AND ADDRESS AND THEN JC NOTESTEIN 14240 WEAVER ROAD.

430402 COMMENTS ABOUT THIS PROJECT THAT THERE'S ABOUT A 40 ACRE PATCH OF TREES THAT ARE TO BE DEMOLISHED AND THAT SORT OF THING. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT AN ARBORIST IS GOING TO BE EMPLOYED TO DETERMINE THE VALUE OF THE TIMBER. THAT WILL NEVER, EVER GROW AGAIN ON THAT 40 ACRES. IT'D BE A SHAME TO SEND A GUY WITH A CHAINSAW AND A BULLDOZER IN THERE AND SAY, CLEAR IT OFF. SECOND THING IS, YEARS AGO, WHEN THE SEWER LINE WAS PUT IN THERE, THERE WERE TEST WELLS DRILLED IN WHAT WAS TOM HAMPTON'S FARMLAND TO DETERMINE THE WATER LEVEL. MANY OF THOSE TEST WELLS, THEY COULD NOT PULL THE CASING. AND SO THEY WERE CUT OFF FAR ENOUGH DOWN THAT A FARMER'S PLOW WOULD NOT CATCH THEM. BUT THEY'RE STILL THERE. SO I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD BUILDINGS AND RECYCLING CENTERS OVER OPEN CASINGS THAT ARE SIX FEET BELOW THE SURFACE OF THE GROUND. NOW, PARDON ME, BUT I KNOW WELL NOBODY'S GOING TO LOOK AT THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. SIR. MY NAME IS JAY ROUSH. I LIVE ON SCOTTS LAWN ROAD. MY ADDRESS IS 15199 SCOTTS LAWN ROAD. SO WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? SO I USED TO FARM HERITAGE FOR HERITAGE'S. IF YOU COULD GO UP THAT WAY PLEASE. WELL, I'M SORRY, I'M GOING TO GO DOWN ON THE SCOTS LAWN ROAD. SO LET ME GET MY BEARINGS. THAT'S SCOTS TRACK. THIS IS THE SCOTS PROPERTY. THIS IS OUR FARM. IT'S FARMS. BEEN IN THE FAMILY SINCE 1859. AND MY SON'S JUST STARTING THE FARM. SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP FARMING. MY DRIVEWAY IS HERE ON THE DARBY TOWNSHIP, DARBY, PARIS TOWNSHIP LINE. I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE IS IN HERITAGE, AND THE PROPOSED OUTLET FOR THE SCOTTS LAWN, UNLESS THEY GO THROUGH HERITAGE, YOU'RE YOU'RE NEGOTIATING THROUGH COUNTY PROPERTY AND IT'S NOT EVEN IN THE CITY LIMITS. SO HOW CAN THIS PROPOSED EASEMENT COME INTO SCOTTS LAWN? YOU YOU APPROVE IT AND IT'S NOT EVEN IN THE CITY LIMITS. YOU DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHAT THEY'RE

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NEGOTIATING WITH. BESIDES WHAT IS SCOTTS LAWN ROAD? WHAT IS ITS DESIGN USE? WHAT IS ITS APPROVED DESIGNATION? IS IT A COUNTY ROAD OR IS IT A CITY ROAD? IT'S A CITY ROAD FROM THE SCOTTS PROPERTY. OUR FARM DRIVEWAY THAT WAY IT'S NOT THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE FROM HERE OUT. SO YOU NEED TO DECIDE WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING. THAT'S NOT EVEN IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. THANK YOU. YES SIR. TIM WHITE, 17 200 WALDO ROAD, THIS IS PROBABLY A DUMB QUESTION, BUT THESE THREE PEOPLE SPOKE BEFORE ME. THEY ASK QUESTIONS. NOW, WHAT'S THE PROCESS THAT HAPPENS? DO YOU ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS NOW SOMEHOW? DOES THIS GO BEFORE YOU GUYS AND YOU GO BACK IN THE CORNER AND TALK ABOUT IT? YOU KNOW, I, I USUALLY EXPLAIN IT BETTER AND I DIDN'T THIS TIME, SO I APOLOGIZE. SO THE CITIZEN COMMENTS, IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE A BACK AND FORTH. SO IF YOU'RE NOTICING LIKE WE'RE ALL WRITING NOTES. AND SO ONCE ALL THE CITIZENS OF, SPOKEN, WE'LL CLOSE THAT AND THEN BRING THE APPLICANT BACK UP. AND BETWEEN US AND THEM, WE TRY TO ANSWER AS MANY QUESTIONS AS WE CAN. SOME OF THESE THINGS. WERE YOU AWARE OF SOME OF THIS STUFF THAT THEY JUST ASK ABOUT? THE, THIS GENTLEMAN HERE, WERE YOU KIDS WORRY ABOUT THAT, WHICH PART ABOUT THE, NOT HAVING ACCESS FROM SCOTT SONG CURRENTLY OR THIS GENTLEMAN BACK HERE? YES. WERE YOU GUYS AWARE THAT THE THING HE BROUGHT UP. THE DESIGN USE FOR SCOTT'S LAWN, I THINK, THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND THEY'RE GOING TO ADDRESS. I THINK THE ROAD ISSUE IS A CONCERN, COUNTY VERSUS CITY. BUT I THINK, THAT'LL GET WORKED OUT.

YEAH. AND AGAIN, THIS IS, SKETCH PLAN. THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY STEPS, YOU KNOW, SO, SO, SO WE CAN, APPROVE THIS TO, TO MOVE FORWARD IN PRINCIPLE, YOU KNOW, AS THEY WORK OUT, THE DETAILS WITH THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS TO GET ACCESS ONTO SCOTT'S LAWN. IF THAT DOES NOT WORK OUT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME TO FOR THE, DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND IF THINGS CHANGE AND EVERYTHING'S GOING ON. WEAVER, THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. AND WE DECIDE AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S MULTIPLE STEPS. SO, YEAH, IT'S A PROCESS, I GUESS I UNDERSTAND THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. OKAY. WELL, I HOPE I ANSWERED. I THINK YOU DID. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THESE PEOPLE THAT SPOKE HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THREE PEOPLE TRYING TO BEAT THE GUY, THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS UP HERE, THAT GENTLEMAN AND THE OTHER YOUNG MAN. AND THIS GENTLEMAN OVER HERE THAT A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE HAD FARMS HERE FOREVER. AND, YOU KNOW, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I GUESS I'M SPEAKING FOR THEM AS WELL. BUT I GUESS, YOU KNOW, IT'S TOUGH TO BEAT, THE GOVERNMENT AS WE KNOW NOW. AND YOU, EVERY DAY I PRAY AT NIGHT SOMEBODY TO HELP US GOVERNMENT. BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? AND YOU JUST NOW WALKED IN, RIGHT? JUST ON THAT. THIS IS SURE THIS IS MARYSVILLE SOUTH BETWEEN WEAVER AND INDUSTRIAL, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SWEAR YOU IN, BUT ONCE I DO. SO I'M GOING TO READ A STATEMENT.

JUST SIGNAL OATH, I WILL. THEN YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, BUT, YEAH, I'M TOM HAMPTON. HOLD ON. SO DO YOU SWEAR YOU IN FIRST? IF YOU RAISE YOUR I GOT IT. HE HAS TO SWEAR YOU IN FIRST. YEAH. AND THEN YOU CAN TALK. I HAVE TO SWEAR FIRST. YEP YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, DO YOU DECLARE THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH AND THE WHOLE TRUTH? UNDER THE PAINS AND PENALTIES OF PERJURY AND FALSIFICATION SIGNAL BY SAYING, I WILL, I WILL. ALL RIGHT. SO THEN NAME, ADDRESS. AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. OKAY. MY NAME IS THOMAS HAMPTON. I LIVE AT 13 880 WEAVER ROAD. MY CONCERN ON WHAT I SAW ON THE INTERNET THAT THIS PROPERTY DOES NOT GO OUT TO INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY. IT STOPS AT THE RAILROAD. THAT IS CORRECT.

ARE THEY PLANNING ON BRINGING ALL OF THAT INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY THROUGH THE WEAVER ROAD? THEY'RE NOT, THE PLAN. AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE MAYBE THE ARROW OFF OF SCOTLAND. THEY ARE WORKING WITH THE CURRENT OWNERS OF PROPERTIES ALONG SCOTS LAWN ON ONE TO BRING THE PRIMARY, ACCESS, BUT THAT'S

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NOT AN INDUSTRIAL ROAD. THAT'S JUST AN OLD ROAD. WHY DON'T THEY GO ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACK AND TAKE THE OTHER PART? SURE. VALID QUESTION. YES. OKAY. WE'LL WRITE THAT QUESTION DOWN. OKAY. I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT. HERE. NONE, IF THE APPLICANT WILL COME BACK UP AND WE CAN, TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. SERVICES CITIZEN COMMENTS. SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, AFTER WE'RE THROUGH HERE, I WOULD LOVE TO GET PHONE NUMBERS, OF ANYBODY WHO'S CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WE PRESENTED TODAY JUST BECAUSE, LIKE WE DID WITH MARYSVILLE EAST, WE DO INTEND TO SIT DOWN WITH CONCERNED RESIDENTS, UNDERSTAND THOSE CONCERNS, AND IF WE CAN MODIFY OUR PLAN ACCORDINGLY, WHICH WE DID WITH MARYSVILLE EAST, WE INTEND TO DO THAT. WE VIEW OURSELVES AS STRONG PUBLIC, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERS WITH THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, AND WE ARE IN THIS FOR THE LONG HAUL. SO WHAT WE'RE HEARING DOES MATTER, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS, TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR CONCERNS AND THEN REACT ACCORDINGLY. I ALSO WANT TO, REINFORCE WHAT WHAT THE CHAIRMAN SAID, AND ALSO ADD SOMETHING TO IT, LIKE THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN A MULTI-LEVEL PROCESS. WE INTEND TO INCORPORATE THIS FEEDBACK IN OUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH COMES BACK IN FRONT OF PLANNING COMMISSION. AND THEN IT RECEIVES THREE READINGS AT CITY COUNCIL, SO WE ARE LONG FROM ANYTHING BEING FINALIZED, AND AT THE SAME TIME, AS FAR AS OUR PLANS FOR THIS SITE, WE'RE IN THE FIRST INNING. ZONING IS MERELY ONE FACTOR, OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO WORK OUT TO MAKE THIS A COMPETITIVE SITE. AND I'VE LISTED ALL THE REASONS THAT IT'S NOT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET ZONING FIGURED OUT FIRST AND FOREMOST ON ON THINGS LIKE RECYCLING CENTERS. WELL, WE'LL GO BACK AND TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT. BUT IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE IN OUR SKETCH PLAN, NOT A PERMITTED USE. WE HAVE NO PLANS TO PUT A RECYCLING CENTER THERE TOMORROW, ALTHOUGH I DO APPRECIATE WHY THAT WOULD MAKE SOMEONE NERVOUS, BUT WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT. AS FAR AS TREES GO, IT'S A REQUIREMENT IN OUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO HAVE A STRATEGY FOR TREE REPLACEMENT. WASN'T IN THE SKETCH PLAN, BUT WE ARE GOING TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO OUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN, SCOTTS LAWN ROAD, YOU KNOW, HERITAGE IS IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE RIGHT NOW , AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY ENGINEER, KYLE HOYING, WHO IS COMMUNICATING WITH THE COUNTY ENGINEER. JUST OUCH ABOUT THIS PROJECT. SO I UNDERSTAND ACCESS IS A CONCERN. I'M NOT SURE HOW MATERIAL IT IS RIGHT NOW TO EVERYTHING ELSE WE'RE PRESENTING, BUT IT IS A MAJOR CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY. WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT SOLVED YET. BUT WE WILL HAVE IT SOLVED, LET ME SEE HERE. WE I TRIED TO MENTION AS MANY TIMES AS I COULD THAT IT'S NOT OUR INTENTION TO, HAVE TRAFFIC ON WEAVER ROAD. UNDERSTAND THOSE CONCERNS. I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING THE MAIN THING IS APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS. APPRECIATE YOUR INVOLVEMENT WITH BEING HERE THIS EVENING. APPRECIATE YOU HEARING OUR SKETCH PLAN PRESENTATION. AND LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH, ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WANTS TO, BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR CONCERNS. THANK YOU. IF YOU DON'T MIND, COULD YOU TOUCH ON, AGAIN. THE REASON NOT GOING OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS? WELL, IT WOULD REQUIRE AN OVERPASS, CLASS ONE RAILROADS ARE GENERALLY NOT ADDING, GRADE LEVEL CROSSINGS ANYMORE, IN FACT, THEY ARE TRYING TO REMOVE AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. SO IF WE WERE GOING TO CROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS FROM INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY, WHICH WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S TEN, $20 MILLION DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION AND THE ENGINEERING, SO THAT THAT IS A POSSIBILITY, BUT IT'S NOT THE OPTIMAL POSSIBILITY . COULD YOU ADDRESS, SIR? COULD YOU ADDRESS THE, CITY VERSUS COUNTY ROADS AND WHAT IMPACT OR UPGRADES WOULD BE REQUIRED? AND WOULD YOU, WOULD YOUR COMPANY BE WILLING TO, I KNOW IT'S EARLY, BUT WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE CONTRIBUTING TO? WELL, IT'S TOO EARLY TO KNOW WHETHER WE'D BE CONTRIBUTING TO THAT. YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE COST ALLOCATIONS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. WE JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE RIGHT NOW. BUT, YOU KNOW, ANY ROAD WHERE WE'RE TAKING PRIMARY ACCESS THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPACTED WILL REQUIRE A TRAFFIC STUDY AT SOME POINT THAT WILL DICTATE, WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE NECESSARY FOR THAT IMPROVEMENT

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TO BE SAFE, BUT THAT, THAT IS MANY STEPS DOWN THE ROAD. AGAIN, WE'RE JUST ASSESSING OUR OPTIONS. WE WILL FIND A PRIMARY ACCESS POINT THAT IS NOT OFF OF WEAVER ROAD. WE'RE JUST NOT THERE YET. OKAY THE ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE CASINGS OF THE TEST WELLS ON THE CENTER WAS INSTALLED, IN THE PROCESSING OF THAT LAND, I GUESS. I MEAN. ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT YOU WOULD FIND THEM? I GUESS I I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE SOLUTION TO THAT IS. I DON'T KNOW, DICK. CIVIL ENGINEER. SORRY, I'M DICK ROGGENKAMP, NEW ALBANY COMPANY. MY NAME IS DICK ROGGENKAMP. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE FOR NEW ALBANY COMPANY, 8000 WALTON PARKWAY, NEW ALBANY, ACTUALLY, THAT IS THE FIRST I'D HEARD OF THAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS SOMETHING DONE BY THE CITY WHEN THEY WERE DOING THE SANITARY. SO I'M HOPING THEY HAVE RECORDS, BUT I'M GRATEFUL TO HAVE LEARNED THAT FACT, BECAUSE IF WE CAN IDENTIFY WHERE THOSE WELLS ARE, WE'LL WANT TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE. NOW, YOU CAN'T BUILD BUILDINGS ON TOP OF SANITARY LINES, BUT WE DON'T KNOW YET BECAUSE WE'RE SO EARLY IN THE PROCESS. WHAT GRADING IS GOING TO BE NECESSARY AND WHERE, WHERE, WHETHER WE MIGHT HIT ONE OF THOSE. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE ITEMS I WROTE DOWN TO CHECK ON. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT MADE IT THROUGH THE LIST OF THINGS THAT I WROTE DOWN. BUT, CHAD THE ARBORIST, HE, HE, HE ADDRESSED THE TREES, THAT THEY WOULD FOLLOW THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, TREE REPLACEMENT, THEY MIGHT WE MIGHT WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS OUR PLAN FOR TREE REPLACEMENT IN THE DEVELOPMENT. AND IF YOU HAVE YOUR OWN, IT'LL BE SUBMITTED TO US FOR APPROVAL.

SO THE WORDING OF IT TEXT OF IT. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE ON YOUR LIST, CHAD? NOPE. I THINK THE EASEMENT CONNECTING TO, SCOTT'S, WOULD THAT BE INCORPORATED INTO CITY OR WOULD THAT BE REMAINING IN TOWNSHIP? I GUESS IT CAN BE. I MEAN, I THINK IT WOULD STILL BE TOWNSHIP, RIGHT? I MEAN, SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? SO CAN YOU TURN YOUR MIC ON TO MATT? OH, SORRY, I WAS JUST TALKING. THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD THE CONNECTION TO SCOTT'S LAWN, WOULD THAT GET INCORPORATED INTO CITY OR WOULD THAT REMAIN? RIGHT NOW I MEAN, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE HERITAGE CO-OP, PROPERTY FOR THAT EASEMENT. HERITAGE IS ALREADY IN THE CITY. IT'S BEEN ANNEXED, AND SO IF WE GO THROUGH THE HERITAGE PROPERTY, BY DEFINITION, THEN IT WOULD BE IN THE CITY. I THINK THE OTHER QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PUBLIC IT'S A PUBLIC ROAD. IT'LL NEED TO BE DEDICATED, PLATTED AND ALL THAT, AND THAT WILL COME BACK BEFORE YOU AS WELL. YEAH. I WAS THINKING THE LINE WAS IT SCOTT SALON. BUT YOU'RE I SEE IT IS ON HERITAGE. IT'S WEST SIDE SO. OKAY OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.

OKAY. AND, SO, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION. YEAH MOTION TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OR. SORRY, PLAN, AM I SKETCH PLAN? I MEAN, MOTION APPROVED PRELIMINARY SKETCH PLAN. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. OKAY CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE, MR. STOYAN? YES MR. JACKSON? YES, MISS PURVIS. YES, MR. WONG? YES, MR. ABEL.

YES, MR. FISHER. YES MISS LORE. YES. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND LOOK FORWARD TO, THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS. THANK. JUST KIND OF TAKE MAYBE, LIKE, A MINUTE BREAK. I MEAN, SO EVERYONE'S WELCOME TO STAY FOR THE NEXT ONE AS WELL, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. BUT, ALSO DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO. IT'S UP TO YOU . I GUESS. USUALLY THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF COMMOTION ONCE PEOPLE LEAVE, SO JUST WANTED TO PAUSE FOR A SECOND. SO MUCH. GOT MARRIED YOURSELF? OKAY. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE. NEW BUSINESS TO

[3. To hear an application for a Planned Unit Development (PUD) Sketch Plan application for a development known as Marysville East Section 3 located at Parcels with ID numbers of 2800170080010, 2800170050000, 2800170060010, 2800170010000, 2800140280010, 2800170030000.]

HEAR AN APPLICATION FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUD SKETCH PLAN APPLICATION FOR A DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS MARYSVILLE EAST. SECTION THREE, LOCATED AT PARCELS WITH ID NUMBERS. OF

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2800170080010280017005000028001, 02800170010000280014, 0814, 0280010. AND 2800170030000. I SEE WE HAVE AN APPLICANT REPORT. THE YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. SUMMARY. MR. DON'T FORGET. OKAY WE HAVE ONE MORE SECOND HERE. I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT ONE MINUTE BREAK. SORRY TALK AMONGST YOURSELVES. YEAH. OKAY. LOOK AT THAT. THAT'S ABOUT THE FASTEST I'VE EVER BEEN ABLE TO SET UP. THANK YOU FOR HEARING US TONIGHT, I AM BART BARRETT WITH ROCKFORD DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENTS . OUR OFFICE IS AT NINE, NINE, NINE PLAYERS PARKWAY, SUITE 200, IN COLUMBUS, THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF OUR MARYSVILLE EAST PLAN, OBVIOUSLY, THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER PIECES THAT WE HAD BROUGHT THROUGH, AND I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. MAYBE IF YOU JUST ARE A LITTLE BIT PATIENT, I'M GOING TO KIND OF TAKE YOU THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERSIGHT OF THE MARYSVILLE EAST PLAN. I WILL FIRST START WITH THE LOCATION OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING TO TONIGHT. THIS IS AN ANNEXATION. THE ANNEXATION PETITION HAS BEEN FOUND OR FILED WITH THE COUNTY. IT HAD 20 DAYS TO GET THE SERVICE AGREEMENT APPROVED THROUGH CITY COUNCIL. THEY DID APPROVE IT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.

AND IT'S ON THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AGENDA FOR TOMORROW MORNING. NOW IT'S SORT OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS. ONCE THE CITY SAYS THAT THEY CAN SERVICE THE ANNEXATION, BUT THEY WILL GO THROUGH AND THEY HAVE THEIR HEARING TOMORROW MORNING ON THAT AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IF THEY APPROVE IT, THAT, ANNEXATION PETITION WILL COME BACK TO THE CITY AND IT NEEDS TO SIT FOR A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF DAYS. WE WILL BE DUAL TRACKING OUR ZONING, JUST LIKE WE DID ON ANNEXATIONS ONE AND TWO THROUGH MARYSVILLE. SO THIS IS THE FIRST STEP OF ANNEXATION THREE OF BRINGING IT THROUGH SKETCH PLAN, THEN DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND THEN WE'LL MEET UP AT CITY COUNCIL.

IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL WITH THE ANNEXATION DOCUMENT. AND THOSE WILL GO THROUGH READINGS ONE, TWO AND THREE WITH CITY COUNCIL AT THE SAME TIME. SO THAT'S THE GOAL. HIGH LEVEL, LOTS OF THINGS CAN DERAIL THAT OR DELAY IT OR OTHER THINGS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE ARE DUAL TRACKING THIS JUST LIKE WE DID BEFORE. SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, ROUGHLY 243, SOME PEOPLE SAY I'M TOO, TOO FOCUSED ON DETAIL. AND I'LL TELL YOU IT'S 243 .89, BUT IT'S 244 ACRES, SITS NORTH OF US 36, AND ESSENTIALLY THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY AND MOST OF THE, THE, WESTERN BOUNDARY IS ACTUALLY MILL CREEK, SO A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND THIS ON THE MAP, I TELL THEM IT'S JUST WEST, IT STARTS JUST WEST.

THAT LEG THAT COMES DOWN TO 36 WEST OF OR I'M SORRY, EAST OF TRACTOR SUPPLY. SO EVERYBODY SEEMS TO KNOW WHERE TRACTOR SUPPLY IS IN MARYSVILLE, SO THAT'S THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM AN ANNEXATION STANDPOINT AND THE OVERALL PLAN FOR MARYSVILLE EAST, THIS IS THE THIRD ANNEXATION IN THE FIRST TWO ANNEXATIONS, WHICH WERE ALL SOUTH OF US 36 ALONG 33, THOSE ESSENTIALLY BROUGHT IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. SO WE ANNEXED OVER 600 ACRES IN THAT. BUT WE ALSO TIED IT TO THE PIECE OF, THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, WHICH IS AT SCOTTS LAWN, THAT 150, 160 ACRES IS ALREADY ZONED IN IN MARYSVILLE, WHICH IS DOWN AT THE CORNER. SCOTTS OWNS A PIECE OF THAT AND SOME OTHER PRIVATE PEOPLE, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE FIRST TWO ANNEXATIONS CREATED THE 750 ACRE BUSINESS PARK, THAT PARK IS IN THE HANDS WITH THERE GOING, THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, AND THEY WILL DO WHAT THEY DO, ON THAT AND BRING IN THE HIGHER PAYING JOBS AND THE USES AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. SO IT WAS OUR INTENT TO BRING THE JOBS TO MARYSVILLE AND SHOW THAT THIS MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE GOING ON IN MARYSVILLE EAST, ON THE EAST SIDE, IS LEADING WITH THE JOBS. AND THESE WILL BE HIGHER PAYING JOBS AS YOU LOOK AT THEIR THEIR PERMITTED USES ON THEIR SOUTH SIDE OR ON THEIR EAST SIDE, THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR WAREHOUSES. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PUSH REFRIGERATORS IN ONE SIDE. AND OUT THE OTHER. THAT'S JUST NOT WHAT THEY DO. SO AND YOU CAN SEE THE RELATIONSHIP FOR ANNEXATION THREE. SO AN ANNEXATION THREE THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF BRINGING THE OTHER COMPONENTS, WHEN WE STARTED THIS WHOLE MARYSVILLE EAST PLAN, WE LOOKED AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF WHAT MARYSVILLE SAID THEY WANTED ON THE EAST SIDE. THE UTILITIES, THE REGIONAL PUMP STATION, WHICH WE'LL TALK A

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LITTLE BIT ABOUT HERE IN A MINUTE, THAT OPENS UP THIS DEVELOPMENT. THEY DON'T WANT JUST BUSINESSES AND JOBS. THEY WANT, THEY WANT, RETAIL. THEY WANT, OFFICE AND A LITTLE BIT OF OFFICE, BUT THEY ALSO WANT THE HOUSING. AND THIS ANNEXATION THREE STARTS TO BRING THE RETAIL, THE RESTAURANTS AND SOME OF THE HOUSING. FROM A MASTER STANDPOINT, A MASTER PLANNING STANDPOINT, IT'S VERY RARE TO GET TO DO THIS, IT'S KIND OF WHAT I DO, RUNNING JEROME VILLAGE FOR 15 YEARS. I HAD THE ABILITY TO HAVE NATIONWIDE'S MONEY BEHIND US. IT TAKES A LOT OF MONEY AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS TO FALL IN PLACE TO DEVELOP A MASTER PLAN OVER A LARGE PERIOD, LARGE AREA. YOUR EAST SIDE HAS THAT. SO IF YOU START AT FIRST IDENTIFY THE AREA WE IDENTIFIED MARYSVILLE EAST BECAUSE ONE, THE UTILITIES WERE GOING TO OPEN UP. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS HERE AT THE BOTTOM. BUT TWO, THERE'S ROUGHLY 2000 ACRES THAT ARE OPENING ON THE EAST SIDE BECAUSE OF THAT UTILITY IMPROVEMENT. THE SEWER IMPROVEMENT, AND YOU HAVE ABOUT FIVE OWNERS THAT CONTROL ABOUT 1500 ACRES OVER THERE, WHEN YOU HAVE SUCH A LARGE TRACT CONTROLLED BY A SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE, IT MAKES MASTER PLANNING EASIER OR IT ACTUALLY MAKES IT, PERMITTABLE TO DO IT. OTHERWISE, IF YOU WOULD DO IT HOW MOST DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, AND THIS IS A FLAW IN THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND A LOT OF OTHERS, IT'S CALLED PIECEMEAL DEVELOPMENT. A DEVELOPER WILL GET 75 ACRES. THEY'LL BRING IT INTO THE CITY. THEY'LL START TO BUILD HOUSES OVER THREE, FOUR YEAR PERIOD OF TIME. THEY'LL EXTEND THE UTILITIES TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEN THE NEXT DEVELOPER GRABS THAT. IN THAT CASE, YOU HAVE VERY LITTLE, EXPECTATION OF WHAT TO EXPECT ON THE NEXT PARCELS, THE SURROUNDING PARCELS OR HOW ANY OF IT FITS TOGETHER, LET ALONE CONNECTED BY TRAILS AND, AND WALKWAYS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. SO MARYSVILLE EAST IS WAS IDENTIFIED BECAUSE OF THE LARGE TRACTS OF GROUND AND THE UTILITIES COMING THE COMP PLAN, LIKE I SAID, WE LOOKED AT THE COMP PLAN. THE FIRST PIECES WERE THE INDUSTRIAL PARK OR THE BUSINESS PARK THAT WAS TO THE SOUTH. THIS ONE IS FOCUSING ON ANNEXATION. THREE IS FOCUSING ON THE RETAIL, WHICH WE CALL MIXED COMMERCIAL AND THE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL. THOSE ARE WHAT YOUR COMP PLAN SAYS THEY WANT ON THIS 240 ACRES CONFIRMED THE INFRASTRUCTURE, A LOT OF PEOPLE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE , WHETHER IT'S SOCIAL MEDIA, ETC. MARYSVILLE IS WELL POSITIONED. YOU HAVE A NEW WATER PLANT. I THINK IT WAS AROUND $52 MILLION. IT OPENED A COUPLE YEARS AGO, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. THE SEWER CAPACITY AT YOUR TREATMENT PLANT ALONG 33, IT'S AT A FRAGMENT OF ITS CAPACITY. THE REGIONAL PUMP STATION IS REALLY KEY. MARYSVILLE IS INVESTED $15 MILLION INTO THE REGIONAL PUMP STATION, ON ANNEXATION ONE. WE SUBSIDIZE THAT GROUND TO ALLOW THAT TO BE ON WATKINS ROAD, AND THEY'VE CREATED THAT, AND THEY'VE COME THROUGH OUR, THE FIELDS THAT THAT WE PURCHASED, TO GET THE GROUND ON OR TO GET THE LINE UNDER US 33. SO THAT REGIONAL PUMP STATION WILL OPEN UP THE UTILITIES FOR THIS WHOLE EAST SIDE. THAT'S EXPECTED SOMEWHERE AROUND SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR. FALL OF THIS YEAR. ROADWAY SANDPOINT'S, WORKING WITH THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, ANNEXATION ONE AND TWO WAS VERY, PUBLIC THAT WE ARE GOING TO BUILD A ROAD THAT ESSENTIALLY COMES OFF OF SCOTTS LAWN, GOES THROUGH WATKINS ROAD, GOES TO 36 AND ULTIMATELY GOES TO FOR NOW, THE PORTION THAT GOES TO FOUR. THAT'S NOT US. WE'RE NOT DEVELOPING NORTH OF MILL CREEK, BUT THAT IS THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT MARYSVILLE HAS TALKED TO US ABOUT. WE'RE DOING TTY'S, WHICH IS TRAFFIC STUDIES ON ALL THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS, BUT WE'RE ALSO DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY OVER THE ENTIRE EAST SIDE TO CONFIRM HOW PEOPLE GET IN AND OUT OF THIS, WITH EACH PROJECT.

OKAY SO I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU 240 ACRES TONIGHT. WE'RE DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY AND A THOROUGHFARE PLAN FOR THAT. BUT WHEN WE HAVE OUR FIRST PROJECT THAT WILL ALSO DO A PROJECT RELATED TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND CONFIRM WHETHER OR NOT THE HIGHER LEVEL PIECES NEED TO BE ADJUSTED OR NOT, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH KYLE PROBABLY FOR ABOUT NINE MONTHS ON THIS, AND WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND THE MARYSVILLE EAST TRAFFIC STUDY PROBABLY WRAPPED UP HERE IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS. SO INFRASTRUCTURE, PRIVATE UTILITIES, WE HAVE THOSE ON THERE. THE MARKET. I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND BORE YOU. YOU CAN GO TO ALL KINDS OF LECTURES ON HOUSING. YOU CAN READ THE PAPER. CENTRAL OHIO HAS A HOUSING SHORTAGE. SHORTAGE. SO THE NEED IS THERE ALL ACROSS THAT IN MARYSVILLE AS WELL, THE NEED IS ACROSS ALL TYPES OF HOUSING, THE VARIETY OF HOUSING. AND THAT'S WHEN YOU DO PIECEMEAL DEVELOPMENT. SOMETIMES YOU GET A BUILDER THAT JUST DOES ONE THING. SOMETIMES THEY DO IT WELL AND THAT'S ALL THEY DO, BUT YOU GET VERY HOMOGENEOUS TYPE OF PRODUCTS. IN THIS CASE WHEN YOU'RE DOING MASTER PLANNING, YOU CAN BRING IN ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT LIMITED TO ONE PARTICULAR BUILDING. THE OTHER THING IN DETERMINING THE MARKET HERE, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ON PARKS. SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT WE ARE FOCUSED ON THE EAST SIDE, ON THE PARK SYSTEM. THAT WILL BE CREATED, THERE I'VE SEEN SOME NUMBERS IN

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THE PAPER. I DON'T KNOW IF ASHLEY CAN CONFIRM THIS, BUT YOU'VE GOT A PARK, TRAIL SYSTEM IN MARYSVILLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO. AND THIS IS HIGH LEVEL PLANNING. WOULD LIKE TO CONNECT ALL THE EXISTING COMMUNITIES. AND I THINK THE PRICE TAG IS AROUND $50 MILLION. SO, TO DO THAT NOW, THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS FOR THAT, BUT ULTIMATELY THEY'RE DOING SMALL PIECES. THEY DID THE BRIDGE TO GET TO THE RESERVOIR AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. BUT THEY HAVE A PLAN.

BUT IT'S $50 MILLION. OUR GOAL ON THE EAST SIDE IS WE BRING THESE ANNEXATIONS THROUGH IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND A DIME BECAUSE WE'RE PLANNING FOR THAT CONNECTIVITY IN THOSE TRAILS, IN THOSE PARKS AND PROTECTED AREAS, THE OTHER THING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKS ABOUT IS THE LIMITED NUMBER OF SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS, YOU KNOW, FROM A RETAIL STANDPOINT, PLENTY OF FAST FOOD, BUT NOT A LOT OF OPTIONS FROM RESTAURANT, IS WHAT I HEAR. SO COMING UP, THE OTHER SIDE HERE, IDENTIFYING BUILDERS, THAT'S MY JOB. IDENTIFY THE BUILDERS, THE PRODUCTS AND THE FITS. AND THERE ARE PRODUCTS THAT IN THE DISCUSSION ABOUT ANNEXATION THREE I'VE HAD WITH MEMBERS OF STAFF. I'VE HAD THEM WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND THEY'VE ASKED ME TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT TYPES OF PRODUCTS. AND I CAN GO OUT AND I CAN DO THAT. SO THIS WILL BE A IN A INTERACTIVE TYPE OF PROCESS, DETERMINING WHAT ARE THE ACTUAL BUILDERS THAT ARE IN THIS SITE.

SOME OF THEM ARE DEFINED, SOME OF THEM AREN'T. AND THEN THE END USERS AND BUYERS, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A HOUSING MARKET, WE NEED HOUSES IN PRETTY MUCH ALL IN CENTRAL OHIO. STRONG JOB GROWTH IN MARYSVILLE, YOUR CHAMBER IS VERY, VERY ACTIVE. THE ADDITION OF THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY INTO MARYSVILLE WILL BE A FAIRLY BIG GAME CHANGER BECAUSE, AGAIN, THEY DON'T SPECIALIZE IN BRINGING WAREHOUSES. THEY SPECIALIZE BRINGING IN TECH JOBS AND HIGHER PAYING JOBS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. AND THEN THE POPULATION GROWTH THAT'S PROJECTED OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS, IT SETS UP WELL FOR A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY AND A PROJECT, THE NUMBER THAT THAT TERRY SENDS OUR, PROVIDE IS ABOUT THREE PEOPLE COMING TO MARYSVILLE PER DAY. BENEFITS OF MASTER PLANNING ARE ALREADY KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS. NUMBER ONE IS DIVERSIFICATION. DIFFERENT BUILDERS ON SIMILAR SITES. I CAN EXTEND UTILITIES TO A LOCATION AND I CAN GET IT INTO THE HANDS OF 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT BUILDERS AT THE SAME TIME TO BUILD OFF OF THAT, AND THEY ONLY DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT HOMOGENEOUS PRODUCT. THEY ARE DIFFERENT PRODUCTS THAT THEY WILL BE BUILDING. IF I ASK A BUILDER TO BUILD 2500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSES, AND I HAD FIVE OF THEM DOING THE SAME THING, I'M NOT CHANGING THE MARKET. I'M GOING TO SLOW THEIR PACE AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. SO THE DIVERSITY OF PRODUCT IN A MASTER PLAN IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT, DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS, THE DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS COME FROM A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS. SOME OF THOSE VARYING PRODUCTS WILL BE THOSE MIDDLE MARKET OR MOVE UP MARKET TYPE OF THINGS. THE BIA IS REAL GOOD ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THE MIDDLE MARKET. IT'S CALLED THE MISSING MIDDLE MARKET. BUT THEY DON'T TELL YOU WHAT IT IS. VERY WELL. IT'S TOWNHOMES. IT'S DUPLEXES. IT'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING. THAT'S NOT JUST YOUR TYPICAL 2500 SQUARE FOOT TWO STORY PRODUCT. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO REDUCE THE COST. NOW, THE SIZE OF THOSE UNITS ON A TOWNHOME IS USUALLY LESS THAN A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, BUT YOU'VE GOT THE ONES ON THE INTERIOR. YES. YOU DON'T HAVE WINDOWS ON ALL FOUR SIDES OF YOUR HOUSE, BUT THEY'RE USUALLY ABOUT 20 TO 25% CHEAPER THAN THE END UNITS. THE END UNITS ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, BUT THE MIDDLE PIECE IS ALLOW A PRICE POINT DIFFERENTIATION ON TOWNHOMES.

DUPLEXES DO THE SAME THING. TWO DUPLEXES THAT ARE THAT ARE ATTACHED WITH A COMMON WALL.

THEY ARE LESS EXPENSIVE THAN TWO INDIVIDUAL HOUSES. SO PROPER PLACEMENT, WHEN YOU DO MASTER PLANNING, YOU CAN PLACE THINGS PROPERLY. YOU KNOW, AT JEROME VILLAGE, WE DID THIS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S WE MADE A FEW MISTAKES ALONG THE WAY. WE HAVE OUR APARTMENTS AND OUR MULTIFAMILY ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTH, THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE. THOSE HIGH DENSITY USES HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY DOWN. HIGHLAND, CROY, TO GET TO THE FREEWAY OR THE INTERSECTION YOU WANT IT TO REVERSE. YOU WANT YOUR HIGH, HIGH DENSITY CORE PRODUCTS AROUND YOUR CORE CLOSEST TO YOUR INTERSECTION. THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT THEM BECAUSE YOU REDUCE YOUR TRAFFIC, ESPECIALLY IF THEY GOT TO GET TO THE INTERSECTION. IT'S A SHORTER THE WORST EXAMPLE WOULD BE TO PUT APARTMENTS ON THE WEST SIDE OF MILL VALLEY. IF YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE TRAFFIC IN MILL VALLEY, IT'S BAD ENOUGH THERE'S THREE SCHOOLS IN THERE, BUT THERE'S NO THOROUGHFARE PLANS TO GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THERE QUICKLY, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS HERE. BUT PROPER PLACEMENT OF THE DENSITY, WHICH PUT THE DENSITY AROUND THE CORE OR AROUND THE INTERSECTION AND THEN GET LESS DENSE AS YOU GO FURTHER AND FURTHER OUT. THAT'S THE WAY MOST PEOPLE DO MASTER PLANNING, HOLISTIC APPROACH. YOU GET TO SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE AS WE BRING THIS THROUGH. YOU GET TO SEE WHAT 240 ACRES COULD LOOK LIKE IN A MASTER PLAN PROCESS VERSUS SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, I COULD JUST BRING THE NINE ACRES WORTH OF RETAIL THROUGH AND ZONE THAT. AND I COULD TELL YOU THAT THESE ARE USES AND ALL THAT. AND I'LL PUT A STUB ROAD TO THE NORTH GOING INTO THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, 230 ACRES AND NOBODY WILL HAVE A CLUE WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. SO IN A MASTER PLAN

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COMMUNITY TYPE THING, YOU ACTUALLY CAN SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE, AND THE OTHER PIECE IS BECAUSE WE'RE MASTER PLANNING 240, WE CAN IDENTIFY THE CREEKS, THE NATURAL AREAS AND THE AREAS THAT WE REALLY WANT TO PROTECT. PROTECT THOSE, AND THEN PUT THE DENSITY IN THE OPEN FIELDS AND THE OTHER AREAS, I TALKED ABOUT THE CONNECTED COMMUNITIES AND THE TRAILS. IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT, FOR RESIDENTS ANYWHERE TO HAVE THAT CONNECTIVITY. SO WE'RE GOING TO CONNECT, THROUGHOUT MARYSVILLE EAST. BUT WE ALSO HAVE TALKED TO THE CITY ABOUT TRYING TO CONNECT TO SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS, SCOTT'S PARK IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT THEY'VE BROUGHT UP SPECIFICALLY CONNECT THE EAST SIDE TO SCOTT'S PARK AND THEN MARYSVILLE EAST. LIKE I SAID, ANNEXATION ONE AND TWO THAT CREATED THE 750 ACRES FOR THE BUSINESS PARK, WORKING ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL TYPES OF HOUSING, RETAIL, ALONG 36. THAT IS MEANT TO BE, RESIDENTIAL SERVICES, RESTAURANTS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. YOU'VE GOT TO REALIZE THE ENTIRE EAST SIDE. IT WILL BE A 10 TO 25 YEAR BUILD OUT. THAT IS HARD FOR SOME PEOPLE TO REALIZE A TIME FRAME, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 2000 ACRES, YOU KNOW, JEROME VILLAGE IS 2000 ACRES. WE STARTED WE STARTED PROBABLY IN 2008, UNFORTUNATELY, WE REALLY GOT STARTED IN 2010.

AND HERE WE ARE 14 YEARS LATER. THEY ARE AT 2000 HOUSES. KROGER'S IS SHOWING UP. YOU KNOW, RESTAURANTS ARE SHOWING UP AND STUFF. SO THAT'S A 14 TO 15 YEAR PLAN, THIS WITH THE INDUSTRIAL COULD BE EVEN LONGER THAN THAT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE ALL THIS HOUSING IS COMING. THE OTHER PIECE THAT MASTER PLANNING DOES WHEN YOU CAN GET AN AREA THIS BIG, YOU CAN CREATE SOMETHING CALLED A NEW COMMUNITY AUTHORITY. AND THIS IS A DIFFERENT WAY TO FUND INFRASTRUCTURE. SO I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT TIFS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. BUT THIS IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THAT, TO WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MARYSVILLE AND OTHER AREAS SAY THAT THE DEVELOPER OR THE EXISTING RESIDENTS SHOULDN'T FUND THE INFRASTRUCTURE, I AGREE AND DISAGREE WITH THAT, BUT THIS MECHANISM ESSENTIALLY FUNDS A LOT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE BY THE PEOPLE, THE BUSINESSES AND THE RESTAURANTS THAT WILL BE IN THAT AREA BECAUSE IT ADDS A MILLAGE JUST TO THAT AREA. NO OTHER AREA THAT REIMBURSES FOR THOSE THINGS. WE ARE DOING THAT TO HELP, FUND THE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND IT WILL ALSO HAVE, MONEY THAT WILL FUND POLICE, FIRE, SCHOOLS AND OTHER SERVICES. SO THAT'S AN ITEM THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH WITH THE CITY AND THE SCHOOLS, AS WE SPEAK. SO THIS IS JUST A QUESTION. YEAH. CAN YOU YOU CONFUSED ME A LITTLE BIT. SO THE MILLAGE WOULD BE ADDED JUST TO THE BUSINESSES, OR WOULD IT BE ADDED TO THE INDIVIDUALS LIVING THERE AS WELL TO THE RESIDENTS? SO IT'S TENTATIVE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S BOTH EVERYBODY, EVERYTHING. SO IT'S LET ME GO BACK HERE. SO RIGHT NOW THE, THE MILLAGE THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED WOULD BE ON ANNEXATIONS ONE, TWO AND THREE. OKAY. FROM AN INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS STANDPOINT, WE'RE LOOKING AT 9.75 MILLS, AND THAT MILLAGE FROM A RETAIL STANDPOINT, A BUSINESS STANDPOINT, AN INDUSTRIAL STANDPOINT WILL BE FOREVER. THAT WILL BE A GIFT THAT CONTINUES FOREVER. SO EVERY BUSINESS THAT COMES IN HERE, DAY ONE, ONCE THEIR WHETHER THEIR GROUND IS TIFF ABATED, ANYTHING ELSE, THEY HAVE TO PAY THE MILLAGE SO THAT MONEY COMES INTO A POT. THERE IS A BOARD THAT THAT WILL OVERSEE THAT, AND THERE'S GUIDELINES ON HOW THAT MONEY IS SPENT AND WHERE IT GOES. BUT IT CREATES A NEW POT OF MONEY. THAT POT OF MONEY DOESN'T EXIST IN THIS COMMUNITY. SO MARYSVILLE WAS NEW TO THIS CONCEPT WHEN I GOT HERE.

NEW ALBANY HAS PERFECTED IT. JEROME VILLAGE HAS PERFECTED IT, THEY'VE DONE IT FROM AN INDUSTRIAL SIDE. WE'VE DONE IT FROM A RESIDENTIAL SIDE. SO THE RESIDENTIAL FOLKS WILL PAY THAT.

NOW, THE RESIDENTIAL PIECE AT 9.75 IS TOO HIGH. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE BETWEEN FOUR AND A HALF AND FIVE AND A HALF MILLS ON THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS. OKAY. AND THAT IT'LL START AT A MINIMUM, FOUR AND A HALF. AND THE BOARD WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE IT ONE POINT UP. IF THEY MOVE IT ONE POINT UP, THEY'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE IT ONE POINT BACK, BUT IT WILL. OUR DOCUMENTS WILL CLARIFY EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS AVAILABLE TO FUND. AND KIND OF PRIORITIES AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. AND, THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, MYSELF AND THE OTHER, THE OTHER, PRINCIPALS ON THE EAST SIDE, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY AND THE SCHOOLS ON THAT, BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE A BIG PIECE FOR THE SCHOOLS. OKAY. DOES THE, THE BOARD, PER PUD OR IS THERE ONE BOARD FOR ONE BOARD? YEAH. THAT WOULD I'VE BEEN ON I WAS ON, JEROME VILLAGE'S BOARD. I MEAN, IT'S A TIME CONSUMING TASK TO, TO MANAGE A COMMUNITY AUTHORITY, BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT COMES IN AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. SO, I MEAN, YOU GET A LOT OF REALLY EDUCATED PEOPLE ON IT. FOR EXAMPLE, YOUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN ON THE JEROME BOARD BEFORE, OR YOUR UTILITY DIRECTOR, THE ADMINISTRATOR, BILL NARDUCCI, IS ON THE BOARD. THIS IS THIS IS A IT. I USED TO SAY, A QUASI GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY, BUT IT'S NOT QUASI. IT IS A GOVERNMENTAL

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ENTITY THAT OVERSEES IT, OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME, THE RESIDENTIAL MILLAGE WILL BE FOR 40 YEARS. AND WE CAN GET INTO MORE OF THAT DETAIL, BUT WE ARE BRINGING ON THE EAST SIDE, THIS COMMUNITY AUTHORITY AND THE REASON WE CAN DO IT HERE IS WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT COMPETITION. YOU KNOW, IF I HAD THAT 100 ACRE PLOT THAT I TALKED ABOUT IN PIECEMEAL DEVELOPMENT AND I'M BUILDING, I'M GOING TO DO SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES AND I'M GOING TO PUT A COMMUNITY AUTHORITY ON IT, SAY, FOR MILLS. AND THE NEXT PARCEL DOESN'T PUT IT ON. I'M AT A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE IMMEDIATELY. SO YOU'VE GOT TO FIND AREAS THAT THAT YOU CAN PUT THIS ON. AND THE EXISTING RESIDENTS AND THE EXISTING BUSINESSES DO NOT HAVE TO PAY IT UNLESS THEY REDEVELOP THEIR SITE. THEN THEY WILL HAVE TO JOIN THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY. OKAY. SO CULVER'S, LOWE'S, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY IT IF THEY COME IN NEW. AFTER THAT THEY WILL, BUT, WE KIND OF EXCLUDE THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT USING ESSENTIALLY THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE BUILDING. THEY'VE BEEN USING THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. SO MASTER PLANNING AND DEVELOPING A SITE WHERE YOU CAN PUT THESE LARGER PARCELS TOGETHER, THAT IS PROBABLY THE SINGLE BIGGEST ADVANTAGE. AND FROM NATIONWIDE STANDPOINT, I THINK IT WAS THE BIGGEST ADVANTAGE WE HAD AT JEROME VILLAGE AS TO WHY IT TURNED OUT. NOW NATIONWIDE'S MONEY WAS A BIG THING TOO. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T BAT AN EYE AT FORTUNE 100 MONEY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THAT'S THAT'S WHY THAT PIECE IS PROBABLY THE MOST CRITICAL PIECE ON THE EAST SIDE. SO NOW BACK TO THE 240 ACRES. I TOLD YOU THAT WOULD ONLY BE FIVE MINUTES. SO I DIDN'T KNOW. I KNEW THAT WASN'T TRUE. SO SO 240 ACRES. WE'RE BRINGING EIGHT SUB AREAS HERE, WE HAVE COMMERCIAL SUB AREAS. WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL.

I WILL GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THOSE. WHAT I WANT TO USE THIS MAP FOR IS OUR CONNECTIVITY POINTS. SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OUR MAJOR OUR MAIN INTERSECTION OFF OF 36. MY POINTER NEVER WORKS ON THIS WALL BUT I'M GOING TO WALK HERE. OUR MAIN INTERSECTION WILL BE HERE. SO IN BETWEEN THE RETAIL AND THE PURPLE WE WILL HAVE A SERVICE ROAD CALLED ROAD B WHICH GOES ESSENTIALLY PARALLEL TO 36. THE MAJORITY OF THE RETAIL ENTITIES WILL HAVE ACCESS DIRECTLY OFF OF THAT ROAD. THEY WILL NOT HAVE TURN IN PLACES. MAYBE A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT OF KYLE'S FEELIN GOOD ON ON SOME DAY, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMERCIAL ACCESS WILL COME IN THAT MAIN ENTRANCE AND TURN ONTO THE SERVICE ROAD. THE REST OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE WILL CONTINUE TO THE NORTH, OR THEY WILL HAVE THE OPTION TO COME IN AT THE LIGHT OFF OF ALLEN. ALLEN, BE ALLEN, BE, DRIVE. THAT IS OUR SECOND MAJOR INTERSECTION, WHICH IS WHICH IS RIGHT HERE. SO THOSE TWO, FOR THE MOST PART, ROAD A AS YOU COME THROUGH SUB AREA E AND F, IT WILL BE AN UNLOADED ROAD, MEANING THAT THERE WILL ESSENTIALLY JUST BE ACCESS POINTS AT THE POINT IT GETS TO ALLEN BAY DRIVE, AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THERE WILL BE HOUSES AND STUFF THAT ACCESS FROM IT.

WHEN YOU GET TO THE BLUE, THERE WILL BE HOUSES THAT WILL START TO ACCESS THAT ROAD, BUT IT WILL BE A PARKWAY OFF OF US 36, MEANING THAT WE WILL HAVE AN ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE WITH LANDSCAPING, MULTIPLE SIDES, ENTRANCES. BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY AS TO HOW SIGNIFICANT THAT ENTRANCE IS. THAT'S WHAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY DOES, IS TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT. SO BUT THOSE ARE TWO MAIN ACCESS POINTS TO THIS ACCESS. IT'S TO THE NORTH. THERE IS NONE I MEAN ESSENTIALLY YOU CAN SEE THE CREEK. IT IS THE BOUNDARY ON THE NORTH SIDE. YOU CAN SEE THE CREEK AS IT COMES DOWN. IT'S NOT QUITE THE PARCEL BOUNDARY ON THE ON THE WEST SIDE, BUT IT COMES DOWN THERE. AND THEN WE ADJOIN THE EXISTING KIND OF HODGEPODGE AREA. THE BUSINESS PARK AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. AND THERE IS A LITTLE CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT RIGHT THERE, IN THE CORNER. OOPS YOU KNOW, THE MENU THING ON THE UPPER CORNERS. OH. SOMETHING'S BAD. YOU BUMPED IT THERE YOU GO. AND YOU WILL WORK NOW. OKAY, WELL, I KNOW HOW TO DO THIS.

MAYBE NOT. OKAY HOLD ON JUST A SECOND. HERE. I MUST HAVE DONE SOMETHING BAD. NOW I GOTTA PUT MY GLASSES ON. OKAY THIS IS A LITTLE BIT. SO YOU GUYS ALL HAVE THIS IN TEXT? YOU HAVE IT IN WRITING? IT'S IN DETAIL, THE MASTER PLANNING PIECE. I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE READ THE FRONT, BUT I TRY TO GIVE YOU THE STORY OF HOW THIS FITS INTO EVERYTHING IN THE FRONT OF OUR SKETCH PLAN TEXT. SO. BUT THESE ARE THE SUB AREAS. SO I'M GOING TO START OVER HERE WITH A IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A PATIO. SO IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL. UNTIL WE GET DOWN TO THE SOUTH ON THE COMMERCIAL. BUT I'M GOING TO START THERE. THOSE ARE INTENDED TO BE UP ALONG THE PARK AREA IS INTENDED TO BE PATIO HOMES, THAT'S A FOR SALE PATIO HOME, 52 FOOT FIVE FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACKS. I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE SEVEN AND A HALF VERSUS FIVE

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FOOT, BUT IT'S A 52 FOOT LOT, AND IT'S PATIO HOME PRODUCT COMING DOWN TO THE SOUTH THAT WILL MERGE INTO THE SINGLE FAMILY, WHICH IS THE CORE BLUE THAT GOES ACROSS THE MIDDLE.

THERE AGAIN, 52 FOOT LOTS, SAME SIZE LOTS, 52 FIVE FOOT SIDE YARD FOOT SETBACKS, A MINIMUM OF 130 DEEP, AND THAT WILL BE THE SINGLE FAMILY COMING DOWN THE LEFT HAND SIDE. I'M GOING TO SKIP C AND I'M GOING TO GO TO SUB AREA D. THIS WILL BE A SECTION OF TOWNHOMES. THESE WILL BE FOUR AND EIGHT UNIT BUILDINGS . DEPENDING ON THE LAYOUT, I DON'T REALLY KNOW YET HOW MANY OF EACH THEY WILL BE TWO AND THREE BEDROOMS. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF THREE BEDROOMS, AND THEY WILL HAVE 1 OR 2 CAR GARAGES WHICH ARE WILL BE EITHER ATTACHED OR DETACHED.

IF IT'S A ONE CAR GARAGE, THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME DETACHED PRODUCT OUT AWAY FROM THE BUILDING, BUT THAT IS D, SO THAT WILL ACCESS OFF ALLENBY, THIS PORTION BECAUSE WE'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF THE DESIGN. THIS PORTION OF ALLENBY WILL HAVE AN ACCESS IN, BUT IT WILL NOT HAVE DRIVEWAYS, IT WILL NOT HAVE DRIVEWAYS FOR GARAGES AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. SO THIS WILL NOT BE RELOADED. I'LL GET THAT QUESTION. BUT THESE TOWNHOMES WILL NOT BE RELOADED. IT'S TOO COSTLY TO DO THAT. BUT WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE PRESENTATION, AS EVERYBODY COMES TO THE HOUSES AND THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE BACK, THAT IT THAT IT IS PRESENTED THAT WAY AND YOU'LL VERY LIKELY SEE THE HOUSES ON THAT STRETCH BE LOADED FROM THE BACKSIDE, BUT THEIR ENTRANCE IS PROBABLY ON THE BACK, BUT IT WILL LOOK LIKE THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE IS ALONG ALLENBY. ALLENBY. SO THAT IS SUBAREA D SUBAREA E, THIS IS THE EMPTY NESTER RANCH FOR RENT, THESE WILL BE TWO AND EIGHT UNIT BUILDINGS, 2 TO 3 BEDROOMS, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE AGE RESTRICTED , BUT IT IS REALLY TARGETED 100% FOR EMPTY NESTERS. AND RETIREES, ONE AND TWO CAR GARAGES ATTACHED , UP TO TEN UNITS AN ACRE, THIS PRODUCT I WOULD PROBABLY TELL YOU THAT IT WILL LOOK SIMILAR TO WOODSIDE, MAYBE BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME BUILDER, SO IT'S WILCOX COMMUNITIES THAT IS INTERESTED IN THAT PRODUCT, WE HAVE TALKED TO THEM. THEY, SINCE THEY'VE DONE MARYSVILLE, THEY'VE DONE A PROJECT IN LIBERTY TOWNSHIP, AND THEY'RE DOING ONE, I BELIEVE IT'S IN ORANGE TOWNSHIP ON 23, AND THEY'VE MADE SOME REALLY NICE ARCHITECTURAL CHANGES TO THEIR PRODUCT. SO YOU GUYS HAVE VERSION ONE. WE'RE ASKING THEM TO BRING THE HIGHER ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS HERE.

AND I THINK WE'LL GET THAT DONE. BUT THAT WILL BE AN EMPTY NESTER PRODUCT, THAT WHICH IS FOR RENT, THERE ARE COMMERCIAL DOWN HERE, RETAIL SERVICES, RESTAURANTS. I'LL GET INTO THE USES HERE IN A MINUTE, AND THE SERVICE ROAD, THE SERVICE ROAD IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE CANNOT HAVE A LOT OF FULL ACCESS POINTS ON ON THAT, US 36. WE'RE TRYING TO LIMIT THOSE, SUBAREA F IS MULTI FAMILY, THREE STORY WALK UPS, I AM FULLY AWARE OF THE COMMENTS THAT THREE STORY WALK UPS GET, THAT WE HAVE TOO MANY APARTMENTS, ETC. AND THAT MAY BE SO I DON'T I'M NOT GOING TO DEBATE THAT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT ON THE EAST SIDE YOU HAVE 2100 ACRES. YOU'VE GOT ONE EXISTING APARTMENT PROJECT, YOU'VE GOT ONE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. AND THIS IS THE SECOND, OR THIS WOULD BE A SECOND THREE STORY WALK UP, YOU KNOW, WITH THE JOBS THAT ARE COMING IN HERE, WHERE DO THE KIDS OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL, 2 OR 3 YEARS. WHERE DO THE KIDS COMING BACK FROM COLLEGE LIVE? THIS THE EAST SIDE DOES NOT HAVE AS MANY APARTMENTS AS OTHER PLACES.

YOU'VE GOT TWO TO THE NORTH. YOU'VE GOT ONE DOWNTOWN. YOU'VE GOT TWO AT COLEMAN CROSSING THEIR POSITION. WELL, AT LEAST THE NEW PRODUCT IS POSITIONED WELL ACROSS THE CITY. A SECOND APARTMENT PROJECT HERE. I DON'T THINK IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD, AND I THINK IT IS A GOOD MIX.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CITY, OBVIOUSLY, I'LL LET YOU GUYS CONSIDER THAT IN YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS DO IT. THE OTHER PIECE THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR BOTH SUBAREA E AND F IS THAT THEY ARE RENTALS, BUT THEY'RE HIGHER END RENTALS. THESE ARE NOT PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD HOUSES. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD OR CAN'T FIND A HOUSE, MAY NOT HAVE A FULL DEPOSIT FOR A HOUSE, OR JUST CHOOSE TO LIVE IN APARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF 18, 19, 20, 21. I DIDN'T WANT TO BUY A HOUSE WHEN I WAS 21 YEARS OLD, BUT BUT ANYHOW, THOSE TWO PIECES RIGHT THERE, FUND A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE. YOU KNOW, THE REASON THAT RESIDENTIAL HOUSE DEVELOPMENT CANNOT FUND A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE IS YOU BUY THE GROUND, YOU PUT THE LOTS IN PLACE, AND THEN YOU SELL ONE HOUSE AND YOU GET YOUR CAPITAL BACK AND YOU GET YOUR PROPERTY BACK FOR ONE HOUSE, AND YOU GET YOUR LAND, AND THEN YOU SELL THE NEXT HOUSE, ETC. AND IT IS SCALING. IT WILL BE FIVE, SIX.

EVERY ONE OF THESE PODS WILL BE 4 OR 5 YEARS BEFORE THEY'RE COMPLETELY FULL TO THE NORTH ON THE SINGLE FAMILY APARTMENTS AND THE RENTAL, THE EMPTY NESTER. THEY WILL BE THERE DAY ONE. SO

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THOSE DEVELOPERS THAT PUT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY, THAT MONEY GETS A RETURN AND IT STARTS TO RETURN BACK VERY, VERY QUICKLY VERSUS OVER A 4 OR 5, SIX, SEVEN YEAR PERIOD OF TIME. SO THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE WITH ROAD B, WITH ROAD A GOING TO THE NORTH AND THE ALLENBY EXTENSION, AND THOSE ARE THE PIECES THAT HELP PUT THAT IN PLACE. A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS THAT I HEAR ALL OVER CENTRAL OHIO IS WE LIKE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO COME FIRST.

THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS, BY DOING TWO THINGS. ONE, THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY, BUT TWO, BY HAVING ENTITIES THAT WILL BE THERE, THAT RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT RETAIL OUTPARCELS THEY COULD BE SOLD IN TWO YEARS, OR THEY COULD BE SITTING THERE FOR TEN YEARS. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE ON ANY OF THAT, AND, ANYHOW, SO MOVING ON FROM THAT, SEE THIS IS AREA C SUB AREA, IT'S ABOUT WHAT IS THAT ABOUT 18, 19 ACRES. THIS IS THAT MIDDLE PRODUCT. SO I HAVE A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND STAFF MEMBER THAT MENTIONED THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DUPLEXES AND TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO DO IT. SO WE HAVE ZONED THIS, OR WE'VE PUT THE TEXT TOGETHER THIS COULD BE SINGLE FAMILY. THIS COULD BE DUPLEXES, OR IT COULD BE TRIPLEXES. SO WE WON'T GO BEYOND THREE, BUT WE ARE TALKING TO SOMEBODY THAT IS INTERESTED IN POSSIBLY DOING DUPLEXES THERE, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT PRODUCT, TRYING TO REACH A DIFFERENT PRICE POINT IN THE MARKET. AND THAT'S THE SOLE REASON IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR ME JUST TO MAKE THAT SINGLE FAMILY AND COMBINE IT WITH B, BUT WE'VE TAKEN THAT ON TO TRY TO FIND THAT PRODUCT AS IT GOES BACK. THERE AND THIS IS THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CORE. SO APARTMENTS, THE RENTALS ALONG THE CORE RETAIL ON THE MAIN ROAD. AND AS YOU GET BACK YOU GET LESS AND LESS DENSE AS YOU GO BACK INTO THE DEVELOPMENT HERE, AND RESIDENTS LIKE THAT. THE FINAL SUB AREA IS H. THIS IS PUBLIC COMMON AREA. WE'VE GOT 53 ACRES THAT WE'RE WILLING TO RESERVE AND DEDICATE FROM DAY ONE, THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED. IT WILL ACTUALLY BE TRANSFERRED TO THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY AND MAINTAINED BY THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY. COMMUNITY AUTHORITY WILL HELP, FUND WITH THE MILLAGE COMES OFF THE PROJECT, THE BIKE TRAILS AND THE CONNECTIVITY IS THERE. ALL THE PODS WILL HAVE THE NORMAL STANDARDS FOR THE TRAILS AND THE SIDEWALKS AND ALL THAT. THEY WILL CONNECT TO THE MAIN TRAIL, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE WITH THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY. BUT WE'RE PROTECTING THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PART. IF YOU'VE WALKED THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A FARMER, HE HAS A GUNS, ETC. SO DON'T WALK IT. IF YOU WANT TO WALK IT, JUST GIVE ME A CALL. BUT THAT IS VERY, VERY MATURE TREES AND IT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PIECES OF MILL MILL CREEK THAT YOU SEE.

NOW, I HAVEN'T WALKED ALL OF MILL CREEK. MAYBE IT'S THAT BEAUTIFUL EVERYWHERE, BUT THIS IS THIS IS VERY, VERY WELL DONE BACK THERE. BY NATURE AND GOD, SO AND WE'RE PROTECTING 53 ACRES OF IT. THAT COMMON AREA IS OUTSIDE OF THE POD COMMON AREA. YOU'LL SEE IN MY TEXT. WE'RE STILL GOING TO FOLLOW THE 10% REQUIREMENTS AT A MINIMUM, AND I THINK WE'LL EXCEED THAT IN A MAJORITY OF OUR PODS. THE 10% REQUIREMENTS IN THE POCKET PARKS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS IN THE POD. BUT THIS IS AN ADDITION TO THAT WHICH WILL ALMOST, CAUSE THE TOTAL OPEN SPACE THAT'S HERE TO BE ALMOST DOUBLE, MAYBE EVEN MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT MARYSVILLE REQUIRES SUB AREA G. SO COMMERCIAL, SO THIS IS, IT'S A MIXED USE TYPE OF THING. THERE'S MOST OF THIS WILL BE WHAT I CALL RESIDENTIAL RETAIL. SO AS YOU COME DOWN THROUGH THERE, YOU KNOW, THE BANKING INSTITUTION, DAYCARE, BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL BEHIND IT, DAYCARE IS AN ALMOST A AN AUTOMATIC PIECE THAT WOULD GO WELL ON THAT SITE, THERE'S SOME OTHER PIECES IN THERE WE'RE NOT REALLY LOOKING FOR ASSISTED LIVING AND NURSING HOMES AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS, BUT WE'VE KIND OF PICKED THIS UP FROM FROM THE CODE, SMALL URGENT CARE DENTIST OFFICE, STUFF LIKE THAT.

THAT WOULD BE THERE. GOVERNMENT OFFICES, MEDICAL, DENTAL, THAT, MULTIFAMILY. THE PERSONAL SERVICES. THAT'S HAIR AND NAIL MASSAGE, YOU KNOW, SPA ENVY AND THAT TYPE OF THING. PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS I HAVE PUT ON HERE BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE SUB AREA OR IT'S PART OF THE, THE CODE THAT'S PULL THE RESTAURANTS WOULD DRIVE THROUGH. IT IS NOT MY INTENT HERE TO REALLY DO FAST FOOD. THERE'S ENOUGH FAST FOOD. I I'M A FAST FOOD JUNKIE. SO RIGHT THERE WHEN YOU GET TO FIVE POINTS, I MEAN THAT IS HEAVEN TO ME. BUT IT'S NOT HEAVEN TO EVERYBODY. BUT FAST FOOD, IS NOT NECESSARILY THE PIECE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BUILDINGS LIKE THIS THAT HAVE THE IN CAPS BE THE RESTAURANTS AND THE REST OF THE STUFF BE THE FILLER IN THERE.

WOULD A SUBWAY OR JIMMY JOHN'S IN THE MIDDLE CAUSE A LOT OF PROBLEMS? NO, BUT THOSE DON'T HAVE THOSE DRIVE THRUS AND THOSE THINGS. SO I THINK THERE'S BETTER PLACES FOR FAST FOOD.

IT'S ON HERE IN CASE SOMEBODY SHOWS UP. SPECIALTY FOOD AND BEVERAGES. THESE WOULD BE SMALL, SMALL RETAILERS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. I KNOW THERE'S A MORATORIUM ON DOLLAR GENERAL.

WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN DOLLAR GENERAL AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS BEING IN HERE, WE'VE GIVEN YOU

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TWO EXAMPLES OF WHAT COULD BE BUILT ON BOTH SIDES. THERE COULD BE INDIVIDUAL OUTPARCELS, YOU KNOW, OF CHASE BANK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ONE AT AN AL PARCEL. WE TRY TO INCORPORATE IT IN, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE, THE SENIOR LIVING. THAT'S JUST ANOTHER PIECE. WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE, WE CROSSED OFF HERE. I DON'T EVEN WANT IT AS A CONDITIONAL USE BECAUSE OF THE RESIDENCES IS FUEL AND GAS STATIONS. I HAVE NO INTEREST IN HAVING THAT. IF I'M GOING HOME, THAT'S THE LAST THING. AND YOU'VE GOT A GAS STATION, YOU'VE GOT A GREAT. YOU'VE GOT A GREAT SHEETZ DOWN AT FIVE POINTS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS, WHICH IS IMPROVEMENT OVER MOST OF THE OTHER FUELING STATIONS IN MARYSVILLE. I KNOW THAT WAS DEBATED A LOT, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY WELL DONE FOR THAT INTERSECTION, BUT WE DON'T WANT A GAS STATION HERE. SO WE ESSENTIALLY TOOK IT OFF THE PLAN. AND THEN WITH THAT, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S IN THE TEXT. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF LOT OF OTHER VERBIAGE IN THE TEXT, BUT I'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS TO YOU OR THE RESIDENTS. ALL RIGHT. SO, THIS AFTERNOON WE GOT UPDATED, INFORMATION ON ALL THREE AGENDA ITEMS. I'LL TELL YOU ALL THREE WHAT ALL THREE AGENDA ITEMS. THIS IS THE ONE THAT I DID NOT LOOK AT. I JUST DID NOT HAVE TIME. IT'S OKAY. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH WHAT YOU HAD UPDATED FROM THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL TO WHAT WAS. I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU SENT IT. YES, THERE WAS VERY LITTLE. SO IT WAS MOSTLY NOMENCLATURE TRYING TO DEFINE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE PUBLIC OPEN SPACE AND THE POD OPEN SPACES. AND WE DECIDED THAT THE H PUBLIC COMMON OPEN SPACE WAS WHAT WE'RE CALLING THAT BECAUSE WHEN WE BRING IN INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL SUB AREAS, THAT DOES NOT COUNT TOWARDS THEIR OPEN SPACE. SO JEFF AND ASHLEY WANTED ME TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE TEXT THAT NO ONE THOUGHT THAT WAS BEING COUNTED. SO A LOT OF WHAT I DID WHEN I FIRST READ IT. SO NO, NO. CORRECT. AND WE HAD THIS SAME DISCUSSION IN THE ANNEXATION ONE. THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF, WELL, I THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF IT, THERE'S GOING TO BE 250 ACRES OF THAT PUBLIC COMMON OPEN SPACE BY THE TIME WE'RE DONE. IF EVERYTHING GETS APPROVED. SO THAT PARK SYSTEM IS GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT. BUT THIS IS BY FAR THE LARGEST PIECE THAT WE BROUGHT SO FAR. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE PIECES THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE THING, I'VE GOT IT.

JEFF. ASHLEY ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU CAN THINK OF THERE WASN'T MAJOR, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE THIRD TIME WE'RE GETTING BETTER AT KNOWING KIND OF WHAT STAFF IS LOOKING AT AND THE FORMAT THAT THEY LIKE. SO HOPEFULLY ONE DAY WE PERFECTED. WELL, I DON'T WANT TO DISAPPOINT YOU, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK ABOUT THE SIDE YARDS, SO, SO, SO SORRY. SUB AREA C SEVEN AND A HALF LIKE WE DISCUSSED. A UNDERSTAND PATIO HOMES I, I DON'T THINK I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH FIVE FOOT. YEAH. B IS SINGLE FAMILY. SINGLE FAMILY. RIGHT. AND YOU HAVE THAT AT FIVE FOOT, JUST EXPLAIN THE REASONING. I'M NOT SAYING YES OR NO. THE REASONING IS I WILL COME IN EVERY SINGLE TIME ON A 50 OR 52, 55 FOOT LOT BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO A TEXT DOING A PUD. IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY A VARIANCE, BUT YOUR CODE SAYS 55 AND SEVEN AND A HALF. SO YOU'RE WORKING OFF A 40 FOOT BUILDING PAD IS WHAT YOUR CODE IS WORKING OFF OF. SO IN A LOT OF PEOPLE'S PRODUCT FITS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE'S PRODUCT FITS THE 30 FOOT. SO SOMETIMES YOU WILL GET THAT I DON'T HAVE 30 FOOT PRODUCT IN HERE, SO, SO BUT ON THE DUPLEX SIDE, THE REASON I WENT WITH SEVEN AND A HALF IS BECAUSE I'M TAKING TWO HOUSES AND I'M SMOOSHING IT TOGETHER. I'M WILLING TO GIVE YOU THE PIECE THAT I ELIMINATED FROM THE MIDDLE AND PUT IT ON THE OUTSIDE. AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT TONGUE IN CHEEK, BUT THAT IS EXACTLY WHY. BECAUSE THEY'RE DUPLEXES. I'M WILLING TO PUSH THEM A LITTLE BIT FURTHER APART. THE REASON THAT I ALWAYS COME IN AT FIVE AND I KNOW HAVE GIVEN UP AND, AND RELENTED ON THIS EVERY SINGLE TIME. AND I HOPE I DON'T DO IT THIS TIME, THE SIDE YARD CAPITAL OF THE WORLD. IT IS. I MEAN, YOU WERE YOU'RE YOU WERE NOW QUOTING BOBBY SHORENSTEIN OF ME. HE'S HE'S QUOTED THAT AND IT ABSOLUTELY IS. MY MOM WOULD NEVER BUY A HOUSE HERE IF MY MOM IF SHE DIDN'T HAVE 2 TO 5 ACRES. SHE'S NOT LIVING THERE FROM MY STANDPOINT. YEAH, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A LARGER, LARGER SIDE YARDS. AND I PROBABLY STARTED TO THAT. BUT ESSENTIALLY NOT VERY MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY USE THEIR SIDE YARDS. THEY DON'T. IT'S AN ACCESS POINT TO GET TO THE REAR YARD OR TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. AND IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE. IT IS COSTLY.

OKAY. YOU ARE LOOKING AT FROM A LOT DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, YOU ARE LOOKING AT 15 TO $1800 FOR LINEAR FOOT. SO IF YOU WANT SIDE YARDS TO BE TEN FOOT MORE, YOU ARE ADDING, YOU KNOW, 15 TO $18,000 ON THE PRICE OF THE HOME. AND EVERYBODY THINKS HOUSES ARE THIS, IS THIS, THIS IS YARD. SO LAND CURBS, WATER, SEWER, ALL THE LINES, THE SOD, EVERYTHING, INCLUDING THE PAVEMENT, ETC. SO I KNOW YOU'VE GOT AN ENGINEERING BACKGROUND, BUT, IT'S ABOUT 15 TO $1800 A LINEAR FOOT TO BUILD THAT LOT. SO GO AHEAD. MY BIG THING IS, YOU KNOW, IF THIS COMMUNITY

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ALLOWS FOR A FENCED YARD, SO SAY, SAY THEY HAVE A FENCED YARD . YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME HOMEOWNERS. I MEAN, WE ALL KIND OF LIVE IN HOME COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY HAVE A FENCED IN BACKYARD. SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO MOW THEIR OWN YARD. SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO HAVE PEOPLE MOW THEIR YARD AND YOU HAVE MOWERS THAT HAVE MOWERS THAT CAN'T FIT IN A FOUR FOOT GATE. AND YOU THEN LIMIT, YOU KNOW, I THAT'S JUST I'VE SEEN THAT, ISSUE. I MEAN, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE BUSINESSES AND WHATNOT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A LANDSCAPING BUSINESS IN THIS, BUT THEY'RE LANDSCAPERS ARE GOING TO AND MOWERS ARE GOING TO COME AND WANT BUSINESS. AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST MY $0.02. AND THAT'S FINE. YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER THIS IS THE MINIMUM MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON A 40 FOOT WIDTH, THEIR ENTIRE HOUSE ISN'T FILLING UP. THE 40 FOOT BUILDING PARCEL FROM THE FRONT TO THE BACK. YOU KNOW, THE GARAGE USUALLY HAS AN INDENTATION OR SOMETHING WILL BUMP OUT OR SOMETHING WILL BUMP IN. SO YOU'RE NOT TAKING A BOX AND MAXIMIZING THAT 40 FOOT ON THE ENTIRE THING. SO, YOU KNOW, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY? NO, NO. WE WELL THEY GO UP ETC. BUT BUT BUT FROM THAT FROM THAT STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW AND NOT EVERYBODY WILL HAVE FENCES BUT WE WILL ALLOW FENCES. RIGHT. THE TOWNHOMES WILL ALL HAVE FENCES, LITTLE FENCED IN AREAS THAT ARE, THAT ARE PRIVATE FOR THEM AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. BUT, YEAH, IT'S , IT'S A COST ISSUE. IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE MILLENNIAL WORLD DOESN'T CARE, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE, THE FIVE FOOT. AND I'LL GIVE YOU THIS PERSPECTIVE. SO NO, I GOT TWO OF THEM FOR THE SOURCE. RIGHT. SO AND BUT I LOOK AT IT FROM THIS WAY TOO, YOU KNOW AT NATIONWIDE IN MY PREVIOUS JOB WE BUILT THE ARENA DISTRICT GRAND YARD AND WE BUILT APARTMENTS FOREVER. THEY JUST KEPT COMING. THEY KEPT THE KIDS.

THE MILLENNIALS KEPT COMING OUT OF OSU, AND THEY WOULD MOVE INTO THE APARTMENTS, AND THEY STAYED THERE A YEAR, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS. WE HAD PEOPLE THAT HAD LEASED FROM US FIVE, SIX. AND NOW THEY'RE INTO THEIR LATE 20S AND THEY'RE STILL LIVING DOWNTOWN BY CHOICE. THEY'RE A TWO BY FOUR AND TWO THREE QUARTER INCH SHEETS OF PLYWOOD AWAY FROM EACH OTHER, MOVING FROM WHERE THEY'RE LITERALLY 5 OR 6IN AWAY FROM THEIR NEIGHBOR TO HAVING, YOU KNOW, TEN FEET BETWEEN THE HOUSES, THEY JUST SEE IT DIFFERENTLY THAN WE DO, SO, YEAH, I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYONE COMPLAIN ABOUT TOO SMALL OF A SIDE YARD. I HAVE HEARD PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT HOUSES ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE. YEAH I WILL TELL YOU, THE ONE COMPANY THAT HAS.

WE'LL MOVE ON FIGURED OUT TO USE THE SIDE YARD IS PEPCON. THEY DO ZERO LOT LINES AND THEY USE THAT AS THEIR OUTDOOR LIVING SPACE, AND THEY CARVE OUT A LITTLE AREA OF THE HOUSE, ON THAT SIDE, THEY FOUND A WAY TO, TO UTILIZE IT VERY, VERY WELL. SO BUT GO AHEAD SIR. NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO MOVE ON, OPEN IT UP TO THE REST OF THE BOARD. HEY YEAH, STAY ON THAT, PLEASE, SUBSECTION C, THE DUPLEXES. WILL YOU GO BACK TO THAT SCREEN? YEP THEY'RE RIGHT THERE. SURE ARE YOU THINKING OF A ZERO MAINTENANCE EXTERIOR FOR THOSE, OR, HOW ARE YOU PLANNING ON MAINTAINING THOSE YARDS WITH HOUSES THAT YOU CAN'T PUT SHEDS IN OR WHATEVER? YES, IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT THAT WILL BE CONDOMINIUM IZED TYPE OF, OF A LIVING THING WHERE THE YARDS ARE MOWED THEMSELVES. THE EXTERIOR SOMETIMES ON DUPLEXES, I WOULD SAY 50% INCLUDES THAT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, EMPTY NESTER TYPE FOR SALE PRODUCTS, LIKE AIR CON. THEY DO THE EXTERIOR MAINTENANCE AS WELL AS THE YARDS. FROM A DUPLEX STANDPOINT, I WOULD PROBABLY SAY HALF THE PEOPLE, HALF THE PEOPLE DO IT AS A CONDOMINIUM TYPE OF A THING, AND THE OTHER HALF DO NOT . SO I THINK THE YARDS WILL BE 100% HOA OR CONDOMINIUM DRIVEN.

WHETHER THE MAINTENANCE ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE HOUSE IS THERE OR NOT. THIS IS THAT IS ONE OF THE PODS THAT I DO NOT HAVE. THE BUILDER IDENTIFIED. I HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING AT THIS, THAT THAT ONE OF THEM IS ACTUALLY BUILDING DUPLEXES IN OLENTANGY SCHOOLS ON HOME ROAD, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE HAS QUITE A BIT OF, OF EXPERIENCE ON, ON DOING THIS, BUT I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION AS TO WHICH WAY THEY WOULD WANT TO GO, BUT I'M ALMOST POSITIVE THAT THE YARDS WOULD BE MAINTAINED. AND, AND OBVIOUSLY THE APARTMENTS, THE, THE, THE RENTAL EMPTY NESTERS, WILCOX COMMUNITIES, THEY MAINTAIN THEIRS AND THE TOWNHOMES WOULD BE ALL MAINTAINED AS A, A SEPARATE EVEN THOUGH THAT'S A FOR SALE PRODUCT. WOULD YOU HAVE SCREENING IN THE BACKYARDS ON THE DUPLEXES, IT'S VERY LIKELY THERE WILL AT LEAST BE A PETITION, AND THEN WHETHER WE ALLOW THEM TO FENCE IN, IT BECOMES A LITTLE TRICKY. IT LOOKS REALLY NICE. IF THEY BOTH FENCE IT IN, IT LOOKS REALLY STRANGE IF ONE DOES AND ONE DOESN'T. SO, WE MAY FENCE THEM ALL IN, SO. BUT BY THE TIME. WELL, WHEN WE COME BACK FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, I MAY HAVE MORE OF THOSE ANSWERS BECAUSE WE WILL START TO SOLIDIFY WHO THAT

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BUILDER IS. I KNOW YOU TOUCHED ON THE GOVERNMENTAL ASPECT OF, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE, ARE YOU? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO IDENTIFY IN YOUR PLAN? ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE SEPARATE HOAS FOR LIKE THE DUPLEXES VERSUS THE SINGLE FAMILIES? AND THEY'RE ALL GOING TO CONVENE, YOU KNOW, ONCE A QUARTER? IS THAT HOW THAT IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS? YES SO YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK LIKE THIS AS THIS IS THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS. ESSENTIALLY, I'M TAKING THAT PIECEMEAL. IF SOMEBODY BOUGHT 75 ACRES AND THE NEXT 175 ACRES, THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN HOA. SO THE APARTMENTS WILL HAVE THEIR OWN. THE WILCOX COMMUNITY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN THE DUPLEXES, BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUENESS OF THAT THEY WILL HAVE THE TOWNHOMES WILL THE ONLY ONE THAT MAY HAVE A COMBINED WOULD BE THE SINGLE FAMILY AND THE PATIO. BUT HONESTLY, THE PATIO HOMES, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE EMPTY NESTERS THAT WOULD BE BUYING THOSE THEY DON'T WANT TO MOW THEIR OWN YARD ANYMORE. YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT TO THAT. SO I DO FEEL THAT THIS IS VERY LIKELY TO BE INDIVIDUAL HOAS, AND THE COMMERCIAL WILL DEFINITELY BE THEIR OWN HOA, BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS IN THE BACK DON'T WANT TO PAY TO FIX PARKING LOT HOLES, ETC. IN THE FRONT. SO, YES. SO MASTER PLANNING HAS SOME CHALLENGES AND NONE OF OUR JOBS ARE EASY, BUT WE WILL STRUCTURE THAT INDIVIDUALLY, BECAUSE OF THE PRODUCT. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT VARYING PRODUCTS IN PLANS AND THEY LIKE IT, BUT THEN THEIR NEXT STEP IS CAN WE VARY IT WITHIN THE DIFFERENT STREETS AND MIX IT ALL UP TO WHERE YOU'VE GOT SOME 60 FOOT LOTS AND THEN AN 80 AND THEN SOME 60, AND YOU GOT TOWNHOMES ON THAT. RIGHT THERE IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS OF MIXING AND BLENDING A COMMUNITY WHERE YOU PUT IT ALL AROUND AND, AND I HATE THAT WORD TOWN CENTER AND KIND OF GO FROM THERE IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO PAYS FOR WHAT, WHEN AND STUFF. BUT IN THIS CASE, THE PODS, THE INDIVIDUALS, THE BUILDERS WILL IT'LL BE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT BUILDERS IN HERE AS WELL, BUT THEY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN HOAS. SO WE'RE GOING LAST QUESTION PART. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL NAMES FOR INDIVIDUAL SUBSECTIONS LIKE SUBSECTION C IS GOING TO BE THE RAVINE. SUBSECTION B IS GOING TO BE MARRIED VILLE BLAH BLAH BLAH.

NO, NO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT MONUMENTS, SIGNS, ALL THAT WE WILL HAVE. SO ASHLEY IS LISTENING HERE. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK ME, WHAT'S YOUR PROJECT NAME? THE NAME IS MARYSVILLE EAST. THE WHOLE EAST, LIKE JEROME VILLAGE IS JEROME VILLAGE. OUR PROJECT NAME IS MARYSVILLE EAST. WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON MARKETING TO COME UP WITH THAT ONE, OBVIOUSLY IT'S BLED TO NEW ALBANY, SO THEY NAMED IT MARYSVILLE SOUTH. BUT MARYSVILLE EAST IS THE OVERALL NAME. SO COULD IT BE THE RETAIL CENTERS AT MARYSVILLE EAST? COULD BE, COULD IT BE, YOU KNOW, WILCOX COMMUNITY IS THE WILCOX COMMUNITY AT WOODSIDE. YOU KNOW, COULD IT BE SOMETHING ELSE? YES, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO STANDARDIZE A LOT OF SIGNAGE AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH STAFF AND KIND OF THE PRINCIPLES AND THE SIGN AND SOME OF THE, THE FENCING I WILL TAKE, THEY CALL IT BUCK FENCE THE X. WHAT DO YOU CROSS? CROSS FENCE. OKAY. SO YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT THROUGH. WE USE THAT IN ANNEXATION ONE. WE'RE USING IT. TWO WE'RE LINING ALL THE ROADS THAT ARE UNLOADED. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT ACROSS THE FRONT HERE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT IN THE BOULEVARD. WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT ALL THE UNLOADED ALONG, ROAD A WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT BLACK. IT'S A BLACK CROSS FENCE. IT'S, IT'S A LONG 33 AT KENMORE PLACE, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT STAFF AND MARYSVILLE SAYS THEY WANT TO MAKE COMMON. YOU KNOW, NEW ALBANY'S GOT THE WHITE FENCE.

JEROME VILLAGE'S GOT OUR BLACK FENCE, AND YOU GUYS GOT A BLACK X. SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BRAND SOME THINGS ON THE EAST SIDE. MY GOAL HOPEFULLY WITH THAT COMMUNITY AUTHORITY MONEY AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO COME DOWN 36 TOWARDS 33 AND ACTUALLY PUT SOME OF THAT FENCING THERE AS WE GO THROUGH. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET OFF AT 36 AND YOU GO TOWARDS TOWN, YOU GOT THE BIG SIGN THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THE GRASS IS GREENER IN MARYSVILLE.

OH, BUT YOU GO THE OTHER WAY AND THERE'S A LOT OF THAT. AND I AM NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT MAINTENANCE HERE. PLEASE DON'T TAKE IT THAT WAY. BUT YOU'VE GOT AROUND AROUND THE CAR DEALERSHIPS. YOU CAN SEE WHERE TELEPHONE POLES HAVE BEEN KNOCKED DOWN OR STILL THERE WHERE THE, THE METAL, FENCE HAS BEEN RUN THROUGH BY CARS AND THERE'S HOLES. ULTIMATELY, WE WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND SOME OF THOSE THEMED TYPE THINGS. YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR STREETS WILL HAVE STREET TREES AND, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS AND BIKE TRAILS. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A BIKE TRAIL DOWN 36. WE'LL PUT IT THERE IF STAFF WANTS IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING DOWN 36. BUT THAT'S YOUR GUYS'S CALL. BUT BUT SOME OF THOSE LARGER THEME THINGS WE HOPE TO PULL INTO THE WHOLE MARYSVILLE EAST AND INTO THE CORE. ROB, THIS WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WOODSIDE, WHERE IT WAS KIND OF ONE DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN AS THOSE EACH COME IN, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL NAMES, AND THEY MIGHT HAVE A MONUMENT SIGN ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF

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THOSE DEVELOPMENTS. THANK YOU. BART OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS, I HAD A QUESTION ON THE PERMITTED USES. I OR MORE OF A COMMENT THAN ANYTHING. I JUST FEEL LIKE SPECIFICALLY MULTIFAMILY AND, YOU KNOW, THE ASSISTED LIVING IN THE NURSING HOME I FEEL LIKE SHOULD BE CONDITIONAL FOR THIS MASTER PLAN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALREADY ENOUGH MULTIFAMILY BEHIND IT. THE INTENT FOR THAT IS RETAIL, RIGHT? I MEAN, SO YES OR NO, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. I DIDN'T PLANT THAT ONE EITHER. SO, LET ME GO THROUGH SO THE ASSISTED LIVING AND THE, THE CONJUGATE OR CONJUGATE CARE THOSE THE NURSING HOME WE CAN KILL THOSE RIGHT NOW IF YOU GUYS WANT ME TO I DON'T REALLY WANT THEM THERE, ETC. BUT, MULTIFAMILY IS HERE FOR A REASON . SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THAT'S A FUNNY LITTLE L SHAPED RETAIL CENTER, RIGHT? I HATE RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, I REALLY DO, SO THERE'S 4.56 ACRES NORTH OF ROAD B THAT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE RETAIL, THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE PART OF THE MULTIFAMILY PROJECT. OKAY, AND WE HAVE A USER THAT THE CHAMBER HAS, WE HAVE A USER THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF IS AWARE THAT, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE AWARE OF THEN AND THEIR BROKER IS LOOKING AT A SITE, AND THEY BROUGHT IT TO ME AND ASKED ME IF I WOULD CONSIDER SOMETHING ON THIS SITE. IT IS NOT GUARANTEED BY ANY WAY. A RETAILER WILL NOT COMMIT TO ANYTHING UNTIL I HAVE IT ZONED AND READY AND LAID OUT AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS, AND LIKE I SAID, IT COULD BE TWO YEARS OR IT COULD BE TEN. SO I'M NOT BANKING ON IT, I WILL BE HONEST. IT'S A RETAIL. I HAVE SAID SINCE DAY ONE OF ANNEXATION ONE TWO AND THIS MASTER PLAN FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS WORKING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND SOME OTHER FOLKS THAT 36 NEEDS TO BE RESIDENTIAL RETAIL. THIS IS A 55,000 SQUARE FOOT USER, BUT IT IS ONE THAT SOME OF THE NEXT DOOR FACEBOOK PEOPLE SEEM TO WANT. AND IT IS NOT TARGET. BUT DON'T ASK ME ANYTHING ELSE. EVERYBODY SAYS IS A TARGET AND THE ANSWER IS NO. I DON'T THINK MARYSVILLE IS GETTING A TARGET ANYTIME SOON. YOU ALREADY HAVE TWO TARGETS. IT'S CALLED WALMART AND MEYERS, AND TO GET A THIRD TARGET IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO GET TARGET TO COME HERE. I LOVE TARGET AND MY WIFE. I DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WALMART, BUT I KNOW THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.

BUT IT IS NOT TARGET. BUT IT IS SOMETHING THERE. SO I AGREE TO EXPAND THIS SKETCH PLAN AND EXPAND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN BY 4.56 ACRES, WHICH IS THE PARCEL NORTH OF THAT. SO I CANNOT THE PART THAT LS THAT IS CORRECT. SO I CANNOT TAKE THAT. WHAT I WILL COMMIT TO YOU, HERE AND WE CAN CHANGE IT. AS THAT IS THAT I WILL ONLY CONSIDER MULTIFAMILY ON THAT 4.56 ACRES. MULTIFAMILY DOES NOT BELONG ALONG 36. OKAY, SO THAT IS THE ONLY REASON. AND I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO, I HAVE AGREED THAT I WOULD PURSUE THAT USER, AS AGGRESSIVELY AS I CAN. I HAVE INVITED THE CHAMBER AND ONE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO ATTEND ALL THE MEETINGS. SO THEY CAN VOUCH THAT I AM PURSUING FOR IT, AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. AND IF IT FALLS THERE, GREAT. IF IT DOESN'T, HOPEFULLY IT GOES SOMEWHERE ELSE IN MARYSVILLE. BUT THAT SPECIFIC GOT INCLUDED BECAUSE OF THAT. SO THAT THE ANSWER IS I WILL TAKE THE ONLY 4.56 CAN BE SHIFTED TO MULTIFAMILY, BUT I CAN'T DO IT AS A CONDITIONAL USE BECAUSE I GOT TO BE ABLE TO SWITCH THAT. AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER IN THE CHAMBER WITH ME ON, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET IT. AND I'M OKAY IF IT GOES THERE. THAT'S REASONABLE. IT'S SO THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY WHY THAT'S L. SO AND THAT'S A GOOD I DIDN'T PLANT THAT QUESTION EITHER. BUT THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. BUT I WAS PREPARED TO SAY THAT. SO GOING BACK TO THE USES. SO SENIOR LIVING AND THE NURSING HOME AND THE ASSISTED LIVING DAYCARE IS A REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF RESIDENTIAL.

SO THOSE THOSE ARE THE THREE THAT I WOULD ELIMINATE. AND THEN I WOULD PREFERENCE IN MY TAX MULTIFAMILY ONLY ON THE PARCEL NORTH OF SERVICE ROAD. BE AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THEM BEING CONDITIONAL ONLY BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, IT COULD BE TEN YEARS. YEAH. AND SOME OF THOSE ARE PRETTY NICE. SO THE ONE, THE ONE YOU DIDN'T NOTICE HERE ON THE RESIDENTIAL RETAIL IS THE GENERAL RETAIL. 50 EMPLOYEES PLUS THAT IS ON THIS LIST. AND IT'S ONLY THERE FOR THAT ONE USER, SO THAT'S THE ONE I WOULD NOT HAVE ON THIS LIST IF, IF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE BUT WE CAN WE CAN MAKE IT. WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK. OKAY. THANK YOU.

QUICK QUESTION. YES, MA'AM, I KNOW YOU HAVE IT ON HERE, BUT AS I ZOOM IN, IT GETS HARDER AND HARDER TO READ, ACROSS ALL OF THESE SUB AREAS ABOUT HOW MANY UNITS TOTAL ARE WE LOOKING, HOW MANY FAMILIES CAN LIVE HERE? HOUSEHOLDS. WELL, THAT'S THAT'S IT'S DEFINED BY MAX. SO WE'RE NOT. YES. SO 800 TO 1000 OKAY. SO WE'RE WE'RE SOMEWHERE JUST AROUND FOUR UNITS GROSS ON ON

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THIS 240 ACRES. I DO NOT EXPECT THAT TO BE THAT WAY. IT'S MY DESIGNERS DO A GOOD JOB OF KIND OF LAYING SOME STUFF OUT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. WE'LL PUT A LITTLE MORE DETAIL WHERE I CAN IN HERE. BUT THEY DON'T. WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED WHERE THE WATER GOES, WHERE THE DETENTION PONDS ARE. WE'RE GOING TO LOSE LOTS FOR ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF, AND, AND GO FROM THERE. SO IT'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THREE AND A HALF AND FOUR UNITS, AN ACRE. GOT IT. I WAS GUESSING CLOSER TO FIVE, SO I WAS OFF. NO, YOU WE WOULD DO MORE THAN FIVE. SO. BUT THE IMPORTANT THING IS THIS IS MASTER PLANNING. WE ARE PROTECTING THE COMMON AREA, AND WE ARE PUTTING HIGHER DENSITY USES IN IN THE PODS. SO WE'RE AGAIN, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE PROBABLY 20 PLUS OPEN SPACE COMMON AREA WITH THE PUBLIC PIECE ALONG WITH THE POD. OKAY, LOOKING THROUGH MY NOTES, I THINK I HAD 1 OR 2 OTHER ITEMS. I JUST WANTED TO ECHO, WHAT I, I WAS THINKING IN AND SAW STAFF COMMENT ON IT WAS JUST, AS YOU GO THROUGH PLANNING, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN MAINTAIN AREAS OF THE MATURE TREES, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WHEN I FIRST READ IT, I THOUGHT THAT WAS YOU'RE JUST PUTTING ALL YOUR OPEN AREA UP THERE AND CLEARING EVERYTHING ELSE. BUT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE NOT AT A POINT WHERE WHERE YOU CAN SHOW THAT. BUT, I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, KEEP SOME OF THOSE MATURE TREES AND USE IT FOR YOU. I'M FULL. I'M FULL DISCLOSURE. WE'RE TAKING 40 ACRES PLUS DOWN HERE. MAYBE EVEN CLOSER TO 50. WE DON'T HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT THERE IS.

THERE IS A CORE IN THE MIDDLE AND I'M ONLY SHOWING THIS. SO THERE IS A CORE RIGHT WHERE ANNEXATION THREE IS IN THE MIDDLE. YEAH. I'LL WALK YOU OUT THERE. OKAY. THAT USED TO BE A FARM FIELD FOR COWS ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO THAT THEY QUIT SERVICING COWS AND IT GREW UP.

IT IS CRAP. IT IS HONEYSUCKLE. IT IS. I CALL THEM STICKER BUSHES, ETC. YOU CAN'T WALK UNDER ANY OF THAT. IT IS SHAGBARK TREES. IT IS A BUNCH OF CRAP THAT WE'RE TAKING DOWN, AS OPPOSED TO THE OLD GROWTH STUFF THAT IS AROUND THE EDGE. AND IF ANYBODY I'VE OFFERED, I TOOK ONE OF THE OLD CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THIS WALK AS HE WAS IN CHARGE OF THE PARKS AND REC, AND I SHOWED HIM THE DIFFERENCE, AND HE WAS 100% SUPPORTIVE OF THE PORTIONS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE DOWN COMING DOWN, AND I'LL DO THAT FOR ANYBODY ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR ANYBODY ON THE CITY COUNCIL, BECAUSE THAT PERSON'S NOT ON CITY COUNCIL ANYMORE. BUT, AND STAFF CAN GO OUT THERE WITH ME TOO. WE CAN TOUR THIS. THE NORTHERN SIDE IS SPECTACULAR. OKAY. AND ALONG THOSE LINES WITH THIS PUD, ARE YOU CREATING, YOUR THE TREE REPLACEMENT, VERBIAGE OR HAVE YOU. SO WE WILL DO THE SAME. SO OUTSIDE OF WHAT I'M IDENTIFYING, WE'RE TAKING DOWN, IF WE TAKE DOWN ANY OTHER TREES, IT FALLS WITHIN THE CITY'S PROGRAM. BUT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE WILL WRITE THAT TEXT. IT WILL READ VERY SIMILAR TO ANNEXATION ONE AND TWO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. BEFORE WE OPEN UP TO CITIZENS. ALL RIGHT. SO WOULD YOU GIVE ME YOUR NAME? NOPE NOPE NOPE. TIM. TIM, I GOT VOICEMAIL, I CALLED YOU, YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. WHAT'S YOUR. GIVE ME YOUR NAME AGAIN. I'LL GIVE YOU MY CARD AFTERWARDS. WE'RE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TALK THROUGH HIM OR. OH, I'M SORRY. NO NO. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE AT A TIME WHERE WE'RE OPENING UP TO CITIZEN COMMENTS. OKAY, SO ANY CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM SIMILAR AS BEFORE, SAY YOUR NAME, ADDRESS YOU GOT UP TO FIVE MINUTES, BUT HE WILL GIVE YOU YOUR HIS BUSINESS CARD AFTERWARDS, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT. BUT IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS, STILL HAVEN'T. TIM WHITE, 17 200 WALDO ROAD, MARYSVILLE. CAN YOU BRING THAT PICTURE UP AGAIN? SURE. YEAH BRING THAT. YEAH, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE. ALL RIGHT. YOU SEE THIS? BRING THAT THING DOWN. I CAN'T BRING THAT DOWN ANYMORE. BUT HE LIVES UP THERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIVER. YEAH, WELL, NO PREVIOUS YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD WE GOT LOG JAMS. I GOT ALL KINDS OF. I'M SAYING OUT OF LOG JAMS, BUT PULL THAT THING THAT HE CAN'T DO A PICTURE THAT'S A COLOR. OH, I'M SORRY, I DO HAVE A LARGER ONE. HOLD ON JUST A SECOND. HERE, TRY TO NOT KEEP THIS, BACK AND FORTH, BUT I HAD A VICINITY PLAN. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S NOT COMING UP, YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S THE ONE THAT YOU HAD THE A B G THE COLOR CODE. OH. I'M SORRY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS, THAT'S TEAL OR GREEN OR WHATEVER. THIS MY PROPERTY IS RIGHT ACROSS RIGHT HERE. AND THEN THE MIDDLE CREEK IS RIGHT THERE, AND THEN THERE'S A THERE WAS A SERVICE ROAD BACK IN THERE. IT'S GOOD STUFF. WE'RE GONNA PUT A TRAIL ON IT. OKAY. AND MY, MY, I'VE BEEN BACK IN THERE ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT MY PROPERTY. AND MY DAD SAID DON'T EVER GO ON SOMEONE'S PROPERTY

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WITHOUT PERMISSION. BUT SHE WAS RIGHT. BUT I DID. AND BUT THAT GOES, I DON'T KNOW. I PROBABLY GOT 1500 FEET OF FRONTAGE. THAT'LL BE. BUT RIGHT UP AGAINST YOUR STUFF. YEAH. IT'S. YEAH.

ASSUME YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY LINE RIGHT THERE. AND I'M SORRY YOU'RE TALKING EVERYTHING, BUT YOUR PROPERTY LINE IS JUST NORTH OF THAT BUILDING. BECAUSE THE BUILDING OVER RIGHT HERE. YEAH YOU'RE RIGHT. SOMEWHERE IN HERE. NOPE. NOPE. NO FARTHER UP. THAT SHOWS IT RIGHT THERE. THAT'S YOUR PROPERTY LINE. WALKING THAT TRAIL. I'VE PROBABLY BEEN ON YOUR PROPERTY TOO, SIR. OH, YEAH. YOU PROBABLY A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE, BUT, NOW, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO PUT BETWEEN THERE AND YOU'RE GOING TO. WE'LL TAKE THE QUESTION DOWN. WE'LL TAKE THE QUESTION DOWN. AND THEN I GOT THE NEXT QUESTION IS, WHAT HAVE I GOT TO DO TO GET ONE OF THOSE MAMBO WHAMMY DION MAPS LIKE THAT WITH ALL THOSE COLORS, LIKE, YOU GUYS GOT, YOU KNOW, THE PDFS ARE AVAILABLE, ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. I DON'T, I DON'T DO ONLINE, I'LL TAKE YOU UP ON IT. OKAY ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT SIR. YES. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK, ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, BART, CAN YOU DISCUSS, BUFFERING PLANS, YES. SO THERE IS, TIM IS TIM, TIMMY, TIM AS WELL, SO THIS LEG HERE, I WAS GOING TO ASK THIS, THE NEW CULVERS, THAT ACCESS ROAD THAT IS A NEW COLOR. YEAH, THAT ACCESS ROAD. I THOUGHT MAYBE WE COULD GET RID OF IT, BUT I GUESS NOT RIGHT THERE. HAS A PATH THAT GOES IS GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT PATH. YES. AND BECAUSE THAT WAS SOLD BY THE POINT FAMILY, THIS IS ALL THE GROUND WE HAVE HERE IS FROM THE POINT FAMILY, TWO DIFFERENT SIDES OF IT. BUT THEY'RE THE PATH THERE BECAUSE THERE'S A HOUSE ACTUALLY BACK THERE JUST NORTH OF THE LITTLE WOODED SECTION THAT IT SERVES. NOW, HE DOESN'T USE IT. I DROVE MY CAR. I MEAN, IT IS IT IS DIFFICULT. THANK YOU. IT IS DIFFICULT TO GET THROUGH. BUT WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE THAT. AND WHEN FOYT SOLD THAT OFF TO THE CULVER GROUP, THEY'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND THE PATH THROUGH THAT. HOPEFULLY CULVER WILL DONATE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY FOR IT. BUT, YEAH. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT ROAD. SO WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT TO CONNECT TO THE CORE, WHICH I CALL THE REST OF THIS. IF PEOPLE THAT DOWN THERE FROM BUSINESS PARKS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO FIND A WAY TO GET THIS CONDOMINIUM GROUP HERE OVER TO THAT PATH SOMEHOW. BUT WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT TO CONNECT. SO IT IS WOODED. IT'S GOT A KIND OF A BROKEN DOWN FENCE LINE, METAL FENCE, JUST, YOU KNOW, YOUR LITTLE SQUARE FENCE ON THE LEFT, AND THEN IT'S MATURE TREES.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO CUT ALL THE TREES DOWN THAT ARE ALONG THERE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT PATH UNTIL IT DEAD ENDS INTO THE NORTH. NOW SEEMING HOW I USE MY LITTLE HANDHELD GPS. WHEN I MADE THOSE WALKS, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT I HAVE BEEN ON TIMMY'S GROUND, BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET TO THE NORTH UP HERE, I GOT OFF THE PATH, WHICH STOPS ABOUT RIGHT IN HERE, BUT THEN THE MATURE TREES OPEN UP AND THERE IS NOTHING UNDERNEATH THEM. I MEAN, YOU WALK, I MEAN CLEAR AND FREE BECAUSE THE CANOPY IS SO HIGH AND SO DARK THAT THAT IT'S THERE. SO I KNOW I WALKED OVER TO THE CREEK AT THAT POINT, AND THEN I REALIZED THAT I'M NOT ON MY GROUND. AND I GREW UP ON A FARMER, A FARM, TWO WITH MY AND, YOU KNOW, FARMERS HAVE GUNS AND YOU DON'T WALK ON THEIR PROPERTY UNLESS YOU'RE KNOWN. BUT THE GOOD THING IS, I NOW KNOW WHERE TIMMY LIVES. AND HE LIVES WELL, NORTH OFF OF OFF OF, WALDO. SO. BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. SO UNLESS THERE'S SOME AGREEMENT, BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL GO TO THE CREEK THERE BECAUSE, AGAIN, IF TIMMY'S GROUND IS AS BEAUTIFUL AS THE STUFF THAT'S NORTH HERE. SO EITHER WE'LL HAVE TO COME WITH SOME AGREEMENT TO HIM THAT IT CAN BE PART OF THE TRAIL SYSTEM OF THE PARK, OR WE'LL HAVE TO PUT SOME SORT OF A FENCE AND SIGNS THERE. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE RESOLVE THAT. I DON'T WANT TO CUT DOWN A WHOLE BUNCH OF TREES TO DO IT. BUT, WE WORK, YOU KNOW, THE BUXTON CO HAD TALKED ABOUT THE EFFORT THAT WE PUT ON BUXTON MEADOWS AND WATKINS GLEN APARTMENTS AND WORKING WITH ALL THOSE EXISTING PEOPLE, I HAVE NO PROBLEM. THIS IS A GOOD THING. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY ASKED IF THEY COULD PUT A BRIDGE OVER YOUR GROUND TO GET TO SCOTTS PARK. OH, YEAH. GOOD LUCK. NO, NO. SO IT'S. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL WE'LL FIGURE OUT. SO, SO, SO YOU'RE COMMITTED TO WORK WITH WITH TIMMY TO. YEAH. I HAVE AN AGREEABLE BUFFER. YEAH. PART.

YES AND WE'LL SEE THAT IN THE NEXT GO. AND IF IT'S A MINIMUM. IF IT'S MINIMUM, WE WILL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO FENCE AND NOTIFY PEOPLE THAT IT IS NO LONGER ON THE GROUND, THAT THEY THINK THEY'RE ON. OKAY, AND GO FROM THERE. THE OTHER THING IS I WILL BE REACHING OUT TO ALL THE HOMEOWNERS. NORMALLY IT'S A DEVELOPMENT PLAN STAMP ALL THE PEOPLE IN THOSE CONDOMINIUMS AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT TOUCH THIS PROPERTY. I KNOW YOU GUYS SEND PUBLIC NOTICE, BUT I ALSO SEND THEM AN ACTUALLY ASK THEM IF THEY WANT TO SIT DOWN AND UNDERSTAND THE PLAN, BECAUSE

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EVERYBODY HAS INDIVIDUAL, SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR PARCEL, WHICH THEY MAY NOT WANT TO COME IN AND DO A PUBLICLY. SO WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH MAY OR NOT MAY OR MAY NOT BE NEXT MONTH, IT'LL PROBABLY BE AUGUST BEFORE WE SUBMIT THAT, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL JUST NOT AT THAT STAGE, THEY WILL ALL GET LETTERS FROM ME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT , ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? OKAY, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I WILL MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

OKAY. SECOND IN A SECOND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? I'M SORRY, MR. FISHER. THANK YOU, MISS LORD. YES MR. STOYAN? YES, MR. NICKERSON? YES, MISS. VERBIS.

YES MR. WOLFOWITZ. YES, MR. ENGEL. YES, MR. FISHER. YES ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. FROM THERE, MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION ITEMS. NOTHING AT THIS TIME. ALL RIGHT, MR. STOYAN

[DESIGN REVIEW BOARD LIAISON REPORT]

, DESIGN REVIEW, BOARD LIAISON REPORT, YES. THE UPS STORE SIGNAGE IS APPROVED AND FULL STEAM AHEAD. UPS WE GO. NO. COTTON, 110 SOUTH COURT STREET, I'VE APPLIED AND WAS APPROVED FOR A GRANT FOR EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENT. WHAT THEY PROPOSE LOOKS BEAUTIFUL FROM. IS THAT RESIDENTIAL? YEAH NO, IT'S A IT'S AN OFFICE. IT'S A IT'S A TURN 110 SOUTH COURT. 110 SOUTH COURT, OKAY. SCOTTS FARMS BOULEVARD. RIGHT. CAME WITH LANDSCAPING AND AN EXTERIOR PLAN, WHICH WE APPROVED, WILCOX COMMUNITY CAME WITH THEIR LAST PLAN FOR THE ASSISTED LIVING ON THAT SMALL PARCEL ON THE CORNER OF THE OLD FARMHOUSE. YES, WHICH WE APPROVED. OKAY, I THINK THAT'S IT. RIGHT THAT'S ALL. I MISS ANYTHING I WAS GOING TO ASK HIM, BUT HE'S 110 SOUTH COURT.

YEAH JEEZ. THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ARE YOU TRYING TO PLACE IT? IT'S A IT'S A SMALL BRICK BUILDING. YEAH YEAH, A SMALL BRICK HOME. WHITE FRONT DOOR. YEAH. I THINK SHE'S JUST SAYING YOU FORGOT COURT STREET. I SAID IT, YOU SAID IT. IT WAS THE FIRST ONE. YEAH, OR SECOND

[COMMENTS OF INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS]

ONE. HE SAID, ALL RIGHT, MOVE ON TO COMMENTS FROM INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS. CHAD, I DO NOT HAVE ANY. LESLIE, I'M EXCITED FOR SOME OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, FRONTAGE ON, 36.

MATTHEW NO COMMENTS TODAY. ROBERT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO PUT AN APPLICATION IN FOR AUGUST. AREN'T WE FULL FOR AUGUST? NO WE'RE NOT. WE COULD INCLUDE THEM. IS THERE A FOURTH I DON'T KNOW, YEAH, I KNOW THERE WAS FULL. YEAH. WE HAVE MIGHT HAVE A LOT OF DO WE EVER. WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH APPLICANTS TO EXTEND THAT A LITTLE BIT AS WELL AS SOME INDIVIDUAL ZONING AMENDMENTS LIKE THE STERILE COMPANY THAT CAME THROUGH, LIKE TRYING TO WORK THAT IN LIKE GET THAT IN AT A TIME THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO OVERWHELM EVERYONE. HAVE WE EVER THOUGHT ABOUT SPLITTING IT UP? ORDER PIZZA. WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO. CAN WE DO TWO MEETINGS IN A MONTH? I MEAN, WE COULD DO A SPECIAL MEETING, BUT THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MORE TIME ON YOUR PART. SO BUT IT'S LESS YOU REFERRED TO. JUST PLEASE DON'T MAKE IT IN SEPTEMBER. I'LL BE GONE. IF YOU GUYS PREFER TO HAVE THAT TWO MEETINGS IN A MONTH OR KIND OF HIT IT ALL ON ONE NIGHT, WELL, IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF A FOUR NIGHT, THREE HOUR MEETING, I WOULD KNOCK IT OUT. THREE HOUR MEETINGS. AFTER AN HOUR AND A HALF, TWO HOURS, MY, YOU KNOW, I THINK I FOR YOU, WE HAD A COUPLE OF DEVELOPMENTS AND I'M SORRY. I'M GOING OFF OF STILL YOUR COMMENTS, WE MET TILL 1131 TIME AND I THINK, I THINK, I THINK THE FOLLOWING MEETING WE DISCUSSED, SHOULD WE PUT A CAP OR A TIME LIMIT OR A AND, AND, AT THAT TIME, AT LEAST, WE TOOK A RECESS. YEAH. AT THAT TIME, ELISE, I THINK, WHICH IS LIKE, IT'S ONE NIGHT A MONTH, WE'LL JUST PLOW THROUGH IT, YOU KNOW? BUT NOT TO SAY THAT WE CAN'T CHANGE OR, YOU KNOW, IT WAS PROBABLY SNACKS AND COFFEE. I'M A BIG DAY. 2 OR 3 PEOPLE THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE BOARD MADE THAT DECISION, SO. ALL RIGHT. THANKS.

I'M SORRY. ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT, JUST KIND OF AS A HEADS UP, YOU MIGHT SEE, LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR NEXT, MAYBE LIKE THE MARYSVILLE SOUTH THAT WAS HERE. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PLAN TO COME BACK, THEN THIS IS FOR JULY. YEAH. SO WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH HOW WE SPREAD THOSE OUT, SO. WELL, I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIR. NO, IT'S STILL

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YOUR TURN TO ACT IN IN CITY. STAFF HAVE BEEN WORKING CONGRUENTLY. RIGHT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET SURPRISED. OKAY OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. YEAH YEAH. ALL RIGHT. YOU GOOD, SIR? I'M GOOD. ALL RIGHT. BRETT, I GOT NOTHING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND, PAGE. OKAY ALL RIGHT.

I AM ALSO GOOD. SO, A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION, MOTION. EVERYONE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED? SAY NAY

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