Sep 09, 2024 City Council

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I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE MINUTE BEING LATE, BUT I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE

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[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WAS THERE ANY CORRECTIONS, CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS TO THE AUGUST 26TH, 2024 CITY COUNCIL MEETING? MINUTES I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE AUGUST 26TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANYBODY OPPOSED? OKAY. WE ARE. THERE'S A

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BUT BUT I'LL LET PAULA ALSO EXPLAIN WHAT SHE CONTRIBUTES. ABSOLUTELY YOURSELF AND WHAT YOU DO IN THE UPTOWN AND ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY. OKAY MY NAME IS PAULA LYNCH, AND I OWN PLUM HOME, WHICH IS A STORE IN THE UPTOWN, AND I'M ALSO ON THE DESIGN COMMITTEE IN THE MAIN STREET ORGANIZATION. WELL, I WANT TO THANK BOTH OF YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO AND SUPPORTING OUR LOCAL UPTOWN AND MAKING EFFORTS LIKE THIS. AND GLAD TO HAVE YOU AS A PARTNERSHIP. SO THANK YOU TO THE BOTH OF YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE TO ADD THE

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[ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]

PUBLIC SERVICE. JUST BEFORE THIS, BUT, THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE MILL CREEK WATERWAY IMPROVEMENTS. SO I CALL THAT THE LOGJAM PROJECT IS SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW EVENING AT 630. AT 940. LONDON SO AT THE COUNTY BUILDING THERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN. THE CITY'S ANNUAL AUCTION NETTED PROCEEDS OF JUST A HAIR OVER $28,000. AND THEN THE FINAL UPDATE, AS IT RELATES TO ODOT'S 33 PROJECT, THIS WEEKEND, THEY'LL BE CLOSING TWO RAMPS. SO IT'LL BE THE RAMP FROM 33 EASTBOUND TO DELAWARE AVENUE AND THEN FROM DELAWARE AVENUE TO 33 WESTBOUND. SO ALL THE RAMPS ESSENTIALLY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF DELAWARE AVENUE, SO THAT'S THIS WEEKEND. AND THEN THAT LEAVES ONE REMAINING RAMP, WHICH THEY'LL COMPLETE NEXT WEEKEND. SO THE WEEKEND OF THE 21ST. AND THAT'S THE RAMP FROM STATE ROUTE FOUR TO US 33 EASTBOUND THERE BY RURAL KING, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KYLE FOR SOME UPDATES ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. THANKS CHAIRMAN. JUST A COUPLE OF CONSTRUCTION UPDATES. THE FIRST IS THE STATE ROUTE 31, PHASE THREE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, THIS WEEK, CONSTRUCTION WORK CONTINUES ON BOTH THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD. MAPLE STREET WILL REMAIN CLOSED AT THE ELMWOOD AVENUE INTERSECTION THROUGH THIS WEEK AND THEN STARTING NEXT TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 17TH, ELMWOOD AVENUE WILL BE CLOSED AT THAT MAPLE STREET INTERSECTION FOR APPROXIMATELY

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NEXT WEEK. THE SECOND PROJECT IS THE PAVING PROGRAM. SO CURB REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT CONTINUES ON FOURTH STREET AND IN MILFORD ESTATES THIS WEEK. AND PAVING OPERATIONS WILL CONTINUE FOLLOWING ALL THE CURB REPLACEMENT WORK ON ALL OF THE STREETS THROUGHOUT THE PROGRAM.

THOSE ARE ALL OF OUR UPDATES AT THIS TIME. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE. I WOULD ONLY ONLY ADD REAL QUICK, JEREMY, WE'VE BEEN IN SOME MEETINGS RECENTLY. IF WE WERE STILL OPERATING UNDER OUR OLD WATER PLANT, WE'D HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE ACCURATE. OUR AVERAGE DAY AT LEAST THIS SUMMER, GREATLY EXCEEDS THE CAPACITY THAT WE HAD AT THE AT THE NORTH MAIN STREET, WATER PLANT. SO PERFECT. EXCELLENT TIMING BY COUNCIL.

YES, YES, VERY, VERY WELL. THAT'S ALL. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, MR. PRESIDENT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ADMINISTRATION? NO. I WAS YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST ADD, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR A NEW WATER PLANT AND STARTED PLANNING FOR IT YEARS AGO. AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS ALWAYS JUST NOT QUITE TIME, NOT QUITE TIME WHEN WE FINALLY DID IT AND MADE THAT INVESTMENT, WE COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT AT A BETTER TIME. I MEAN, THE VERY NEXT YEAR WE'RE. YEAH. NEVER WOULD HAVE STAYED UP WITH THAT. SO PERFECT TIMING. I THINK WE GOT A LITTLE BIT LUCKY. WE HAD A GOOD CONTRACTOR AS WELL. SO IT WENT WENT VERY, VERY WELL. WE DID IT AT AN APPROPRIATE TIME TOO. SO WE GOT A GOOD COST. SO VERY FORTUNATE. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY HEARING NONE. WE'RE MOVING ON, REPORT OF CLERK OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. REPORT OF

[REPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT]

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[PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION REPORT]

YES. SO WE APPROVED THE JULY 16TH, COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES AND THEN, KIND OF MOVED ON THERE AND GOT A DISCUSSION ON THE PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN, WHICH RECEIVED A BID FOR $80,000. SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF STARTING THAT, AND THERE'LL BE A LENGTHY AND IN-DEPTH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, HOPEFULLY FINISHING THAT UP SOMETIME SPRING, EARLY SUMMER NEXT YEAR, CREWS ARE FINDING AND FIXING IRRIGATION LEAKS, AND PREPARING FOR A LIST OF MAINTENANCE REPAIRS NOW THAT THE POOL IS CLOSED, PLANS FOR FALL SEASON WORK PROJECTS ARE TAKING PLACE, AND JEREMY HAD BROUGHT UP THAT WE RECEIVED ROUGHLY 3000 VISITORS AT THE BMX EVENT. SO THAT'S A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE AROUND TOWN, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE KIND OF WHAT IMPACT THAT HAD ON THE LOCAL ECONOMY, THE DAILY AVERAGE VISITORS TO THE POOL AS OF THE PARKS AND REC MEETING LAST MONTH, WAS AROUND 780 PEOPLE, WE SOLD 547 MEMBERSHIPS AND LOOK TO HAVE A TOTAL OF 34,000 VISITORS FOR THE YEAR, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE, LAST YEAR THE AVERAGE WAS ABOUT 396 VISITORS AND ROUGHLY 33,000 FOR THE WHOLE AGEN. SO TH ONTO ENROU KD OFIN . WEDA FINISD A REHEEWVI O FE FIVETHEAR Y CAPAL AND PLEM FORANHE T PKS,AR AT WASTH APPROD BY TVE HEMMISSICO.ON SIXO NOTH TG, ANDN OUNEXTR MTING IEETUESDAS Y, R 17THBET 6 A.M. TH PK I DOYBY HAVEODNY QUE AIONSST? O AND IH,ON'T DNOW IF K QUESY HAYBS AN SWER TANTHISO ON,TI SO I' ASK ILL AND IT. FERETH I'T IT'SNNOS RUSH. 5 00MBERSHMES SEEMIPS SOMEWT LOW.A LI IKE D'T KNOONWHAT TW HE ERAGEAV, YOU OW, PEKNENTAGERC O TYPIICIA LITY OPAR POPULIONAT LLY, ACAUALLY CTA MBERSHIEM P THE NTOBERSUM WE'VEAD. IS H THAT CRECT? ORAH, THYE ISAT IT MEMBLIKEEMOST M OTHEF DAILS EREAR MORE LIKE OFETH BASISY BUT WE, CANET ONS HAT. T TT'S PAHA OFRT WH THE PATKS ANDAR RECASTER M PL ISAN GNG TO OISEARCHRES I MPARE CO TO OTUSRHE SILARLYIM SIDZE COMNITIESMUN CENT IL TOO O AND NIONWIDATJUSTE FALL. SIN WHEREEE WHEREE W YEAH, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE THAT NUMBER. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A IT'S A GOOD THING. SO, RIGHT, OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. HEARING NONE, HEARING OF CITIZENS. THIS IS THE

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YOU'LL SEE IT UNDER WATER OFTEN FOR DAYS AT A TIME, IF THAT WERE THE ONLY ISSUE HERE, I'M NOT SURE WE WOULD BE UNDERTAKING A PROJECT LIKE THIS OF THIS SCALE, BUT IT IS MUCH LARGER THAN THAT.

THE LOGJAMS IN MILL CREEK ARE CAUSED BY THE DEAD TREES, THE ASH TREES THAT WERE KILLED OFF IN THE 80S AND 90S BY THE EMERALD ASH BORER THAT STARTED COLLECTING IN THE CREEK AND BACK IN 1995, OUR THEN COUNTY COMMISSIONERS SOUGHT TO UNDERTAKE A CLEANUP PROJECT.

IT'S DONE THROUGH A PROCESS COMMONLY KNOWN AS A DITCH PETITION. NOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I DON'T THINK OF MILL CREEK AS BEING A DITCH. BUT THAT'S HOW IT'S CLASSIFIED UNDER OHIO LAW. A DITCH PETITION REQUIRES EVERY LANDOWNER IN THE WATERSHED TO BE GIVEN NOTICE,

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THANK YOU. ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I CAN TRY TO ANSWER? YOU DO HAVE TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK AT THAT MEETING. AND WHERE? WHERE DO WE GO TO DO WHERE DO WE SIGN UP? I BELIEVE THERE'LL BE A SIGN UP AT THE AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE MEETING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MR. UFFINGER. OKAY ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEA? HEARING NONE REMOVED A

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I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, TAKING AWAY THAT THAT ABILITY WITHIN THOSE DISTRICTS. IF I COULD RESPOND TO THAT. SO, I THINK THAT'S THE VERY SCENARIO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE THINK THERE'S VALUE IN, IN ACCESSORY OR AT LEAST I THINK THAT THERE'S VALUE IN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, WHEN THAT HAD FIRST COME THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION, I RECALL, A GENTLEMAN WHO HIS HE WAS, I WOULD ESTIMATE TO BE A SENIOR CITIZEN. HIS SISTER HAD SOME HEALTH ISSUES, IF I RECALL, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. AND HE HAD, I WANT TO SAY, SOME SORT OF STRUCTURE ON THE BACK OF HIS PROPERTY. WOULDN'T THAT BE GREAT IF MY SISTER COULD LIVE THERE? I THINK IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO KEEP, BUT WE WOULD WANT TO ALSO MAKE SURE I CAN'T. I CAN'T ENSURE THAT EVERY SINGLE PARCEL WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THAT BEING ALLOWED, WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE DOESN'T HAPPEN IS THAT WE, FOREVER. AND IN INDEFINITE POINT INTO THE FUTURE, PROHIBIT VEHICLES FROM PARKING IN A GARAGE THAT WAS DESIGNED TO WAREHOUSE VEHICLES. AND THEN WE JUST BASICALLY PUSH THEM OUT INTO THE STREETS. YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE OFF STREET PARKING FOR ADUS, BUT, YOU HAVE A YOU YOU DO PUSH CARS OUT OF GARAGES IF THEY'RE CONVERTED, IF IT'S IF IT'S NOT, SO THE WAY WE'RE PROPOSING IT IS BASICALLY IF THAT GARAGE, WAS BUILT WITH THE INTENT OF BEING THE PRIMARY GARAGE FOR THAT UNIT, THEN THAT GARAGE SHOULD BE SERVE ITS PRIMARY PURPOSE, AND THE FACADE OF THE HOME SHOULD MATCH ITS PRIMARY ARCHITECTURAL INTENT THAT ALONG THE LINES OF THAT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IF THERE IS A BUILDING AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SISTER THAT WANTS TO LIVE IN A KIND OF A WHAT WOULD YOU CALL A CARRIAGE HOUSE TYPE THING, THOSE ARE THE SCENARIOS THAT MAKE SENSE, YOU KNOW? SO, AND THEN I WOULD SUSPECT THAT THE CONDITIONAL US, FORCING THAT, THAT ASK THROUGH THE, THE PLANNING AND DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, IT, IT IT GIVES THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK. YEAH. DURING THOSE MEETINGS RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOT AN ABILITY TO CONTEST THE EXISTENC. THERE'S AN ABILITY TO CONTEST THE APPEARANCE, SO WHAT WHAT I BELIEVE IS, IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS ADDING THE ABILITY TO CONTEST THE EXISTENCE, THE LANDSCAPE OF YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU MAY HAVE BUILT YOUR HOME IN, IS CHANGING AND EVOLVING, AND NOW YOU HAVE TWO NEIGHBORS INSTEAD OF ONE, AND YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. YOU DON'T HAVE A SAY IN IT. I WOULD PREFER THAT PEOPLE HAVE A SAY IN HOW THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. ANYBODY ELSE AND THEN THIS WOULD GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION? YES. WHERE THEY WOULD FURTHER WORK OUT ANY DETAILS BEFORE SENDING IT BACK.

ABSOLUTELY YOU ARE CORRECT. ADMINISTRATION NOTHING FURTHER. CITIZENS. CATHY YOUNG, 425 WEST EIGHTH STREET. I'M IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING ONE OF THESE, NOT ONLY DO MY TENANTS CURRENTLY PARK ON THE STREET BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO PARK CLEAR BACK BY THE ALLEY, I'M ACTUALLY BUILDING THEM A TWO BAY GARAGE, ONE GOING WITH THE ADU. THE OTHER ONE GOING WITH THE

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I'LL DEFER TO MR. MCQUADE. THANKS, TERRY. MCKENZIE, WOULD YOU MIND DRAWING MY SLIDES UP, PLEASE? THANK YOU. REAL QUICK, COUNCIL, WHILE MCKENZIE IS PULLING THIS UP, THIS AMENDMENT WAS HEARD AT PLANNING COMMISSION AT THE JULY MEETING AND WAS VOTED YES, FOUR ZERO. NO. CAN YOU JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF SINCE YOU'RE SITTING BACK THERE? OH, YEAH. KYLE KYLE, CITY ENGINEER FOR MARYSVILLE. THANK YOU. WELL, WELL, SHE'S PULLING IT UP. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS TO CONTINUE TO PRESERVE TREES WITHIN THE SETBACK AREA ALONG 33. THOSE TWO PARCELS ARE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE. AND WHAT THIS AMENDMENT TO THE PUD

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THE SETBACK. AND THIS IS US 33. YEAH, YEAH. THE ONLY YOU KNOW, US 33, YOU KNOW, FOR SINCE WHAT THE FREEWAY WAS BUILT IN 55, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHEN. I'M JUST GUESSING.

YOU KNOW, FOR ALL THAT TIME, THE IDENTITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DRIVE INTO MARYSVILLE, THERE'S THAT TWO PATCHES OF WOODS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE THREE FREEWAY. ONE IS INNOVATION PARKWAY, WHICH WHEN IT CAME THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS SERVING ON THERE, I ADVOCATED FOR THE PROTECTION OF THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF JEREMY REMEMBERS, BUT JEREMY AND I ACTUALLY WALKED THROUGH THERE WITH OTHER MEMBERS AND WE FOUND LIKE, WILDFLOWERS.

AND THERE WAS A BABY FAWN. AND IT WAS LIKE, AND WHEN YOU WALK BACK THERE, YOU NEVER HEARD THE TRAFFIC. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ONCE THOSE TREES ARE GONE, IN A LARGE SECTION OF THE TREES ARE GONE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE TO MARYSVILLE RESIDENTS WHO'VE LIVED HERE FOR A LONG TIME AND MAYBE JUST PEOPLE IN GENERAL. WHO JUST TRAVEL UP AND DOWN 33. THAT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE DISRUPTION TO, YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT. I MEAN, CHARACTERISTICS AND ESTHETICS AND, AND I'M FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO SAY, I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU WON'T REPLANT TREES. OH, SURE. THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, NEW ALBANY HAS A TON OF GREEN SPACE, AND YOU PRIDE YOURSELF ON ON THAT. SO 100% I GET I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE EXISTING TREES AND THAT OLD GROWTH AND SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN PERMANENT AND STAPLED INTO PEOPLE'S LIVES FOR GENERATIONS, AS LONG AS THEY'VE DRIVEN ON 33 TO 1 DAY, DRIVE DOWN 33 AND FIND A WHOLE SECTION OF IT MISSING, AND OR THE CANOPY IS, YOU KNOW, LOWER THAN WHAT IT WAS. IT'S MADE SMALLER. YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN OUTCRY FROM CITIZENS AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I WAS REALLY HESITANT ON I DON'T I REALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY TREES REMOVED. BUT THAT'S ME AS DONALD BERGER, RESIDENT AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER. BUT YOU KNOW, SO I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERNS. I WHAT WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR AND ASKING FOR IS JUST CONSISTENT TREATMENT WITH THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PARTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, BUT WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU, DONALD, AND TALK ABOUT OPTIONS AND POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVES. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT IS THE SIZE OF THE TREE PRESERVATION ZONE? SO OF THE TREE PRESERVATION AREA OR THE WOODED AREA ITSELF, THE TREE PRESERVATION AREA. SO IT'S I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT ACREAGE, AND IT WOULD TAKE ME TOO LONG TO DO IT IN MY HEAD UP HERE IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY. BUT IT'S WITHIN. IT'S THAT CROSSHATCH WHICH IS, WHICH IS 100FT FROM US 33, WHICH IS THE SETBACK AREA. AND THAT'S WITHIN ABOUT, A TOTAL IF CONNOR AND DORAN ARE 15 ACRES. SO THAT'S ABOUT A 30 ACRE TOTAL STRIP THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT'S JUST THE LOWER 100FT ALONG 33. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW. LIKE HOW WIDE THAT WAS. I'LL GET YOU THE EXACT ACREAGE. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED. OKAY. GOTCHA. I WANTED TO HEAR. SO. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MAYBE IF YOU'VE GOT SOME TIME IN THE COMING WEEKS, WE COULD GO WALK AND SEE IF. YEAH WE CAN. YEAH, LET'S DO IT. TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A BETTER WAY OF KIND OF WITH MR. BORGER DOWN HERE IS WE'RE NO LONGER THE SHADED CITY.

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THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 23RD 2024. THANK YOU.

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2800170080010280017006001, 02800170050000280014028001, 02800170030000. AND 28001700110000 FROM U. ONE TOWNSHIP ZONING TO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUD FOR MARYSVILLE EAST SECTION THREE. THANK YOU. ADMINISTRATION. I'M GOING TO DEFER TO MR. BARIC, WHO WILL DO A PRESENTATION ON THE ANNEXATION NUMBER THREE. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HEARING THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT. THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE MARYSVILLE EAST MASTER PLAN THAT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF MARYSVILLE, THIS IS ANNEXATION THREE, AND I WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH. OH, OH, NEVER MIND. HELPS TECHNOLOGY WISE, IF YOU TURN IT ON, SO WE'VE GOT SIX PARCELS HERE THAT ESSENTIALLY IS OWNED BY THE SAME FAMILY, TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE FAMILY. IT'S 243 ACRES, ALMOST 244, THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE HERE. IT'S LOCATED KIND OF AROUND THE TRACTOR SUPPLY. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WHERE THAT IS, TO THE NORTH, YOU'VE GOT THE MILL CREEK AREA, TONY IS GONE, BUT ONE OF THE LARGEST LOGJAMS FROM THE ASH TREES AND EVERYTHING IS ACTUALLY TO THE NORTH OF THIS SITE, SO WE'RE DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THAT PROJECT.

THIS IS THE MASTER PLAN. AT LEAST THE MASTER PLAN THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT THROUGH SO FAR.

ANNEXATION ONE AND TWO IS TO THE SOUTH. MATT WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT IT, THE AREA THAT HE WAS JUST MENTIONING IS ACTUALLY THIS PIECE RIGHT HERE OFF OF WILDWOOD LANE. SO THAT'S WHAT HE'S BRINGING THROUGH TO CONNECT THE ANNEXATION ONE AND TWO AND THEN ANNEXATION THREE IS NORTH OF 36.

SO WHEN WE BROUGHT THROUGH ANNEXATION ONE AND TWO, IT CREATED WHAT IS GOING TO BE ROUGHLY THE 850 ACRE INDUSTRIAL PARK OR THE BUSINESS PARK. NOW THAT 850, WE DIDN'T BRING ALL THAT THROUGH. IT ACTUALLY CONNECTED TO THE 150 ACRES DOWN THERE THAT SCOTT'S AND SOME

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IT'S NOT JUST OUR PROJECT, BUT OTHER PIECES OF THE EAST SIDE. THE PARK WILL BE OPEN TO TOWNSHIPS. WHEN WE BROUGHT ANNEXATION TO THROUGH HERE, WE MADE SOME COMMITMENTS TO BUXTON MEADOWS TO TIE IN THROUGH SOME OF THE BOUNDARIES AND THE COMMON AREA CREATIONS AROUND THERE, THAT WE WOULD TIE THEM INTO THE PARK SYSTEM AS WELL. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE. IN ADDITION, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR POLICE, FIRE AND SCHOOLS AND THE SERVICES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS THE INDUSTRIAL PIECE. THE OTHER PIECE HERE IS AS WE CREATE THE PARK SYSTEM, THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE THE ENTITY THAT MANAGES THAT. NOW, IF MARYSVILLE AND THE PARKS AND REC WANTS TO TAKE THAT SYSTEM OVER, THEN WE CAN TRANSFER SOME OF THAT MILLAGE, ETC. OVER TO IT. BUT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO PUT THAT BURDEN ON ANYBODY ELSE THAT THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY WOULD OWN, MANAGE THAT IN. IN COMPARISON TO AN HOA, YOU DON'T WANT AN HOA MANAGING A LARGE PARK SYSTEM, AND IT REMOVES THE BURDEN. I'LL GET TO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS AND SOME OF THE COUNCIL CONCERNS ABOUT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN, IN TOTALITY A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY REMOVES THE BURDEN, ANY TYPE OF BURDEN FROM THE EXISTING RESIDENTS THAT DON'T LIVE ON THE EAST SIDE, ON THE EAST SIDE, BECAUSE THERE'S FIVE OWNERS, ONE'S A BUSINESS SCOTS THAT CONTROLS ABOUT 1500 ACRES OF THE 1900 ACRES THAT'S AVAILABLE OVER THERE. YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO MASTER PLAN. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS BECAUSE I THINK I WENT THROUGH IT WITH THE ANNEXATION ONE AND TWO, BUT SOME DIFFERENCES IN MASTER PLANNING, WHAT IT BRINGS, IT BRINGS A DIVERSIFICATION. AND YOU'LL HEAR ME TALK ABOUT THAT NUMEROUS TIMES TONIGHT, DIVERSIFICATION OF BUILDERS, DIVERSIFICATION OF PRODUCT, DIVERSIFICATION OF PRICE POINT. THAT MISSING MIDDLE MARKET THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DISCUSS. YOU GUYS HAVE DISCUSSED THAT SOME IN YOUR STRATEGY SESSIONS, ETC. WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THAT PRODUCT IN THIS THING. PROPER PLACEMENT, WHEN YOU WANT MASTER PLAN, WHEN YOU DO MASTER PLANNING, YOU WANT THE HIGHER DENSITY YOU WANT THE COMMERCIAL, YOU WANT THOSE THINGS CENTERED AROUND THE INTERSECTION. FROM AN INDUSTRIAL STANDPOINT, YOU WANT ALL THE TRAFFIC TO GO TO SCOTTS

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THE END CAPS I WOULD SAY TRADITIONALLY PER SQUARE FOOT, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE SMALLER SQUARE FOOT THAN A DETACHED PRODUCT, THEY WILL BE, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR PRICE TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE THAT IS THERE. HOWEVER, THE INTERIOR UNITS ARE USUALLY ANYWHERE FROM 1000 TO 1400 SQUARE FOOT, AND YOU CAN SAVE SOMETIMES $100,000 OFF THE PRICE OF A HOME. WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO GET TO ANOTHER MARKET THERE. SO WHEN I TALK ABOUT DIVERSIFICATION AND PRICE POINTS FROM OUR TRUE SINGLE FAMILY, THAT EVERYBODY'S USED TO, I THINK YOUR AVERAGE PRICE NOW OF A NEW HOUSE IN MARYSVILLE IS 460,000. WE COULD BE 130, $150,000 LESS WHEN SOME PRODUCTS HERE NOW THE SQUARE FOOT IS LESS. BUT AGAIN, WHEN YOU'RE JUST COMING OUT OF COLLEGE, WHEN YOU'RE NEW FAMILY WITH WITH NO KIDS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TO GO TO AN APARTMENT, YOU DON'T HAVE AN OPTION TO PURCHASE AND TO, YOU KNOW, BUY AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHERE INTEREST RATES ARE, BUT, HOPEFULLY THOSE THOSE GO DOWN HERE, STARTING IN NOVEMBER AND, AND INTO NEXT YEAR, BUT BUT ANYHOW, THAT PRODUCT THERE, THE TOWNHOMES, AFFORDS THAT PORTION OF THE MARKET TO BE ABLE TO, TO MEET IT AND THAT IS THE MISSING MIDDLE. AND THEN E IS A IS ANOTHER UNIQUE PRODUCT. IT IS A RENTAL BUT IT IS AN ATTACHED RESIDENTIAL. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE WILCOX COMMUNITIES. SO THEY ARE LOOKING AT DOING ANOTHER SITE. THEY DID ONE ACROSS FROM BENNY'S IN WOODSIDE. VERY GOOD. IT'S NICE ARCHITECTURE. I WILL SHOW YOU SOME OPTIONS THAT THEY ARE. WE'RE PUSHING THEIR ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AS WELL. AND THEY'VE REACTED VERY, VERY WELL TO THAT PRODUCT. SO THOSE ARE THE 7 OR 8 DIFFERENT AREAS THAT MAKE UP THIS, THIS MASTER PLAN. THE REASON THAT WE BROUGHT IT THROUGH IS A PUD IS BECAUSE PUTTING THIS ALL TOGETHER COLLECTIVELY LIKE THIS, TYING IT TOGETHER. AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE HERE IN A MINUTE. BUT TYING THIS TOGETHER, IT'S NOT EASY TO DO THIS. UNDER STRICT ZONING. SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE HERE, WE'VE WORKED QUITE A BIT WITH STAFF AND YOUR CITY ENGINEER. SO MAIN ROAD COMING IN OFF OF 36, WE ARE GOING TO BOULEVARD THIS. SO IT'LL BE TWO LANES IN AND TWO LANES OUT WITH THE BOULEVARD, TREE LINED IN THE MIDDLE. SHOW YOU SOME IMAGES OF THAT HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. THAT BOULEVARD WILL CONTINUE OFF TO THE NORTH FROM ROAD B, ALL THE WAY UP TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE INTO THE TWO, THE ATTACHED RESIDENTIAL PRODUCTS. SO WE WILL DO, THE BOULEVARD ALL THE WAY UP TO THAT POINT, AND THEN IT WILL BE UNLOADED ALL THE WAY TO THE ROUNDABOUT. ALLENBY DRIVE WILL BE EXTENDED, AND IT WILL BE UNLOADED ALL THE WAY TO THE ROUNDABOUT, WE DID INITIALLY HAVE THE ROUNDABOUT IN. THAT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE ROUNDABOUT, BUT THIS IS WHAT I CALL THIS IS THE PEOPLE MOVER. IF YOU GO TO JEROME VILLAGE AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ME TALK ABOUT JEROME VILLAGE QUITE A BIT, BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU DO SOMETHING RIGHT, YOU DON'T RECREATE THE WHEEL. YOU TAKE THE THINGS THAT WORKED REALLY, REALLY WELL IN THOSE PROJECTS AND YOU TRY TO APPLY THEM IN OTHER AREAS. THIS IS THE PEOPLE MOVER BECAUSE I'VE GOT SEVEN PODS HERE. I WANT TO MOVE PEOPLE IN. I DON'T WANT DRIVEWAYS ON THE MAIN ENTRANCES GETTING PEOPLE BACK INTO THE DEVELOPMENTS, ETC. SO FROM 36 AND FROM ALLENBY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY ROADS OR ANY DRIVEWAYS THAT HAVE PEOPLE BACKING OUT ON IT AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. IT ESSENTIALLY IS THE ROAD THAT GETS YOU TO THE POD AND INTO WHERE THE INTERNAL ROADS AND EVERYTHING ACTUALLY ARE. SO THE ROUNDABOUT IS THERE, THE REGIONAL PUMP STATION. SO

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AND HERE JUST A MINUTE ON THE FINANCIAL SLIDE, BUT WE'RE DOING A THOROUGHFARE PLAN RIGHT NOW FOR THE ENTIRE EAST SIDE. THIS WILL BE INCLUDED. THERE ARE 11 INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE BEING STUDIED DOWN. US 36. WE ACTUALLY EXPANDED THE THOROUGHFARE DISCUSSION. THIS IS BEING DEVELOPER PAID FOR, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S BEEN $100,000 STUDY SO FAR. WE'RE ACTUALLY EXTENDING THAT VIEW AND PICKING UP COUNTS AND EVERYTHING AT COLEMAN'S CROSSING ON THE WEST SIDE OF 33, BECAUSE WE THINK THE TRAFFIC THAT COULD BE GENERATED HERE NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH YOUR COUNTY AND OR YOUR CITY ENGINEER AND A LITTLE BIT WITH ODOT ON THAT. I TALKED ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE COMING IN. SO THIS IS A PICTURE. I'M GOING TO EXPAND IT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. BUT YOU WILL SEE OUR BIKE TRAIL, WILL CONNECT ALL THE EXISTING PODS. IT WILL CONNECT ALL THE RETAIL AREA TO THE SOUTH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT, WE'RE GOING TO GO UP HERE ONE MORE. SO WE'RE BRINGING A BIKE TRAIL ALL THE WAY DOWN THROUGH HERE. WE HAVE AN ACCESS EASEMENT. THERE'S TWO LITTLE TINY HOUSES UP HERE. IT HAS AN ACCESS EASEMENT THAT COMES DOWN THAT LANE. ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE IN THE CORNER. IT RECOVERS THIS BUILDING. SO I REACHED OUT TO CULVERS, AND THIS CAME FROM A RECOMMENDATION AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD ESTABLISH A TRAILHEAD, BECAUSE WE DID WANT TO CONNECT TO THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL AS WELL. SO WE'RE GOING TO CONNECT ACROSS 36 WHERE WE'RE BUILDING COMMERCIAL, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BRING A BIKE TRAIL ON THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY. IT'LL BE TEN FOOT MULTI-PURPOSE TRAIL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL, CULVER'S IS ACTUALLY ON THEIR DESIGN IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT. THEY DID A LITTLE STUB BACK THERE WORKING WITH THEM, AND THEY'RE OKAY IF THIS BECOMES A CITY OF MARYSVILLE TRAILHEAD FOR THE PARK STRUCTURE. AND THIS PARK STRUCTURE ULTIMATELY WILL CONTINUE TO THE EAST, BUT WE'RE HOPING TO WORK WITH THE ONE RESIDENT THAT OWNS THE GROUND THAT CONNECTS THIS TO THE PARK AT SCOTT'S FARM. BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO CONNECT THIS TO THE REST THAT WOULD GET YOU TO SCOTT'S FARM, THAT WOULD GET YOU TO THE RESERVOIR, ULTIMATELY. AND IT REALLY OPENS UP PEOPLE FROM GETTING HERE. BUT CULVER'S IS WILLING AND ALREADY DESIGNED IT IN THEIR PLAN TO HAVE A TRAILHEAD TO THIS SYSTEM.

INCORPORATED THERE. NOW, THEY'D REALLY, REALLY LIKE FOR YOU TO, TO BUY A BUTTER BURGER BEFORE OR AFTER THE TRIP. BUT THEY'RE OKAY. THEY THINK THEY HAVE ENOUGH PARKING IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THAT. SO GETTING BACK TO THE ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE, WE ARE PROPOSING OBVIOUSLY STREET TREES. WE'RE PUTTING THE MULTI-PURPOSE TRACK OR TRAIL ON ONE SIDE. THE OTHER SIDE WILL HAVE AS CITY REQUIRES ACTUALLY EITHER SIDEWALK OR WE'LL HAVE A SECOND TRAIL, ONE OR THE OTHER, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE FENCE. WE'RE ALSO TAKING THE FENCE STRUCTURE THAT WE AGREED TO ON ALL THE UNLOADED ROADS IN ANNEXATION ONE, AND TWO TO THE SOUTH, AND INCORPORATING IT HERE. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY, VERY DISTINCT AREA THROUGH THE INDUSTRIAL PARK AND SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF US 36 THAT WE'RE INCORPORATING HERE ON THE UNLOADED ROADS.

YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT IN EACH ENTRANCE INTO THE SUB AREA, WE'RE KIND OF DOING AN L-SHAPED FIGURE. I'VE GOT A DETAIL HERE. THIS IS WHERE I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT. AND WE'RE GOING TO HIGHLIGHT THAT L FEATURE AS TO WHERE YOU GO IN THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE INTO EACH POD WITH STONE COLUMNS, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT FOUR FOOT HIGH, AND YOU CAN SEE THE BOULEVARD HERE IN THE MIDDLE. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY US 36 TO THE SOUTH. AND THAT UP THERE IS THE ROUNDABOUT THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE TRAIL GOING THROUGH AROUND. AND THE FENCED AREA. THIS IS OUR STANDARDS THAT WE PUT FORTH FOR MARYSVILLE. I'M GOING TO START IN THE CENTER. SO THAT'S WHAT THE BOULEVARD WOULD LOOK LIKE. TWO LANES IN, TWO LANES OUT, TREES FENCE AND THE MULTI-PURPOSE TRAIL. NOW THE MULTI-PURPOSE TRAIL ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE HERE WE'RE COMMITTING ON BOTH SIDES. IT COULD BE A SIDEWALK IF IT'S A SIDEWALK, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE. THERE'S A PICTURE OF WHAT THE COLUMNS WOULD LOOK LIKE IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PICK THE STONE, THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO DO IT. WE WERE ASKED TO INCORPORATE SCOTT'S FENCE. IF YOU GO DOWN TO SCOTT'S, THEY HAVE THIS CROSSBUCK FENCE. IT'S IN BLACK. OBVIOUSLY, WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON THE EAST SIDE PROJECT, IT WAS A CLASH OF THE TWO TITANS. JEROME VILLAGE HAS A FOUR RAIL BLACK FENCE IN THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, HAS A TRADITIONAL FOUR RAIL WHITE FENCE. SO THIS IS A GOOD MIDDLE GROUND THAT THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK. BUT THE EAST SIDE WILL HAVE SIMILAR FEATURES.

OBVIOUSLY THE TRAIL WILL BE TEN FOOT. SO PAID A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS TO HAVE AN ARTIST MAKE THESE RENDERINGS. AND I'M NOT JOKING HERE, SO THIS, THIS ONE TO THE TOP, WE'RE GOING TO START THERE, THAT IS ACTUALLY WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. YOU CAN SEE THE COMMERCIAL OFF TO THE AREA. THE GOOD THING, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT IT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, IS WE'RE LOOKING FOR RESIDENTIAL

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SO IF YOU LIVE HERE, ETC. SO I DON'T NEED A HUGE I'LL NEED SIGNAGE, BUT I DON'T NEED A HUGE, I DON'T NEED A 30 FOOT WALMART SIGN HERE. I DON'T NEED ANY OF THAT STUFF BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS WILL KNOW IT'S THERE AND THAT'S WHO IT'S THERE TO SERVE. SO YOU CAN SEE THE BOULEVARD COMING IN HERE ON THE TOP ONE, THIS ONE, IF I COULD MAKE ONE COMMENT ABOUT THE SIGNS. I REMEMBER YEARS AGO WHEN KROGER WAS BEING BUILT AND YES, YOU KNOW, THE KROGER DOES HAVE A TOWERING SIGN, BUT THEY WANTED A BIGGER ONE, IF I CAN REMEMBER CORRECTLY. AND I WENT TO A PLANNING COMMISSION AND ADVOCATED STRONGLY AGAINST IT. THEY STILL GOT A TOWERING SIGN IN WALMART. YOU KNOW, ALL THESE TOWERING SIGNS WHICH TO THIS DAY, IF ANY COUNCIL MEMBER DRIVES DOWN COLEMAN'S CROSSING, THE TOWERING GATEWAY SIGNS ARE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK THE ONE AND I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I THINK THE ONE BY THE YMCA HAS NEVER BEEN LIT SINCE THE DAY IT WAS PUT IN. AND THE SIGN IS RUSTING AND FALLING INTO DISARRAY. BUT THE OTHER SIGN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BY INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY ONLY WORKS LIKE HALF THE TIME. BUT, YOU KNOW, I READ A STUDY WHERE OVER LIKE 86% OF PEOPLE USE THEIR SMARTPHONES OR TO GET WHERE THEY WANT TO GO.

AND WHAT BART'S TALKING ABOUT WHEN HE SAYS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL FOR INSTANCE, WHEN YOU DRIVE INTO DUBLIN ON 33, YOU WILL NEVER SEE A GINORMOUS SIGN THAT EVER TELLS YOU THE HOSPITAL NEVER TELLS YOU. PANERA NEVER TELLS YOU. GIANT EAGLE NEVER TELLS YOU.

KROGER NEVER TELLS YOU WHERE THE MCDONALD'S IS, THE WENDY'S OR ANY OF THAT. BECAUSE DUBLIN RESIDENTS SUPPORT THOSE BUSINESSES. WE MIGHT GO THERE. OUR COMMUNITY MIGHT GO THERE ONE DAY A WEEK, TWO DAYS A WEEK, THREE DAYS A WEEK, WHATEVER IT IS. BUT OUR MONEY DOES NOT SUPPORT THOSE BUSINESSES, AND DUBLIN RESIDENTS DO NOT NEED A 30 FOOT OR 40 FOOT TOWERING SIGN TO SAY THAT, HEY, GET OFF THE EXIT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE ODOT SIGN NOW, BUSINESSES WILL SAY THAT THEY NEED A SIGN NO MATTER WHAT BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THEY DRAW PEOPLE INTO THEIR BUSINESS.

BUT TO HIS POINT, WHAT HE'S TRYING TO SAY IS THAT IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS THAT A BUSINESS WILL ALWAYS TELL YOU THAT THEY NEED THESE THINGS. BUT FROM AN ESTHETIC STANDPOINT, FROM A COMMUNITY STANDPOINT, AND WHAT OUR RESIDENTS WANT IS THAT ALWAYS THE BEST OPTION. SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, HE'S TALKING ABOUT THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL SIGNAGE AND THEN FREEWAY SIGNAGE AND WHAT'S APPROPRIATE AND WHAT'S NOT, NOT APPROPRIATE. AND THEN WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN 33, I MEAN, WHEN YOU DRIVE TO COLEMAN'S CROSSING, WHERE THOSE SIGNS REALLY NECESSARY, AND WAS THE KROGER SIGN REALLY NECESSARY? HOW OFTEN DO WE DRIVE TO KROGER AND NEVER NOTICE THE SIGN? BECAUSE WE'VE BECOME NUMB TO IT. SO I'LL LET YOU CONTINUE. NO, NO, I YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB. GO AHEAD. IT'S BUT THE DIFFERENCE OF COLEMAN CROSSING AND FREEWAY SIGNS I MEAN DUBLIN DOES WHEN YOU GET TO TUTTLE MALL THEY DO ALLOW MORE SIGNS. BUT THAT IS A REGIONAL DRAW. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY YOU DON'T SEE, KROGER'S IN BETWEEN BEST BUY AND, YOU KNOW, HOME DEPOT AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. SO I'M JUST INDICATING THAT THAT WE WILL HAVE SIGNS IT WILL BE LESS IMPACTFUL BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE SHOOTING FOR RESIDENTIAL AND THEY WILL KNOW WHERE IT IS, BUT THIS IS THE PICTURE OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE MOVING INTO THE ROUNDABOUT. NOW A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, WELL, THAT'S NICE. SOMEBODY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB ON THE WATERCOLORS AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF. BUT IT'LL NEVER LOOK LIKE THAT. AND I TOTALLY DISAGREE. AND NO, WELL, I CAN PROVE THAT. SO THE NORTH PICTURE HERE IS AN ACTUAL PICTURE OF WHAT WE CREATED AT JEROME VILLAGE, YOU CAN SEE THE COLUMNS WITH THE L SHAPED FENCE THAT THAT DOES. THE REASON THAT THE L SHAPED FENCE IS THERE IS TO CREATE THE VISION FOR THE TURN LANES. AS YOU COME OUT INTO THAT. AND THEN WE PUT THE TREES AND THE LANDSCAPING AROUND IT. SO THE ENTRANCES INTO THE MAJOR PODS WILL LOOK LIKE THE TOP ONE. THIS HERE IS RYAN PARKWAY. IT IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE UNLOADED PEOPLE MOVIES. HIGHLAND CROIX LOOKS LIKE THIS. RAVEN HILL LOOKS LIKE THIS IN JEROME VILLAGE. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN DOWN THERE, THIS IS WHAT MOVES PEOPLE TO THE PODS JUST AROUND THE BEND. THERE YOU TURN RIGHT AND LEFT INTO TWO HOME RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS. NOW THIS A LOT OF PEOPLE ALWAYS DEBATE MAINTAIN THE RURAL CHARACTERISTICS. I LIKE THIS VIEW. I LIKE THE DITCHES. YOU CAN CREATE A GREEN SPACE WITHIN IT. YOU PUT THE BIKE TRAIL OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE IN THAT SITUATION. BUT WHEN YOU OPEN UP INTO PARK AREA OR DETENTION PONDS, YOU CAN CREATE THAT GREEN SPACE AND YOU FEEL A LITTLE BIT LIKE THAT. GREEN SPACE IS THE COMMONS IN THAT YOU SEE, WE HAVE TALKED TO STAFF ABOUT WHETHER THEY WOULD WANT CURB AND GUTTER. WE'RE SHOWING CURB AND GUTTER HERE AND IT LOOKS JUST FINE. BUT THIS IS A DITCH PROCESS. AND WHEN YOU HAVE A DITCH PROCESS, IT IS MORE DIFFICULT TO MANAGE THE STORMWATER. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT FROM MILL CREEK, BUT IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT. BUT WE'RE MAINTAINING RURAL CHARACTERISTICS. I LIKE THIS AND THESE ARE REAL EXAMPLES FROM JEROME VILLAGE. NOW RYAN PARKWAY WAS PUT IN ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, TEN, 15 YEARS AGO, AND THAT WAS PROBABLY ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO TO THE NORTH. BUT THE IMAGES ARE VERY SIMILAR. SO WHEN WE TALK

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AND I'LL SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE. MOST DEVELOPERS, IF YOU ALLOW THEM TO DO IT, THEY WILL GRADE OUT ALL THE LOT. THE TOPSOIL DISAPPEARS BECAUSE THEY'RE DIGGING OUT THE ROADS, THEY'RE DIGGING OUT THE PONDS, AND YOU GET A BUNCH OF CLAY. AND THAT CLAY GETS PUSHED AROUND WHEN THEY DIG OUT THE BASEMENT, IT GETS PUSHED AROUND THE HOUSE, AND ESSENTIALLY THEY'LL COME IN AND THEY'LL DROP TWO INCHES WORTH OF MULCH ON THE TOP OF THAT CLAY, AND THEY'LL PLANT WHATEVER PLANTS ARE GOING TO DO. WE ARE REQUIRING IN OUR CODE HERE, A SIX INCH RAISED BED.

THAT RAISED BED HAS TO BE DIRT, AND IT HAS TO BE MULCH. ON MOST OF OUR SINGLE FAMILY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE 11 BUSHES. WE DEFINE THE SIZE OF THE BUSHES. WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE 60% GROUND COVER UNDERNEATH THE BUSHES, ETC. WE ARE REQUIRING LANDSCAPING ON. WHEN YOU HAVE A STREET VIEW AND YOU'RE LOOKING BACK. IF YOU HAVE UTILITY METERS ON THE SIDE, YOU HAVE TO PUT SMALL BEDS AROUND THOSE, AND WE ARE REQUIRING SOD BECAUSE THEY GRADE OUT THE LOTS WITH THE BASEMENT SPOILS, IT IS HARD TO GROW GRASS SEED ON CLAY. I MEAN, IT JUST DOESN'T GROW, I THINK IN MAYBE MARYSVILLE SOUTH DONALD WAS SAYING TREES ON MOUNDS NEVER GROW, I WANTED TO STAND UP IN A PUBLIC SESSION, BUT IT WASN'T PUBLIC SESSION AND SAY I JUST CAME FROM ALASKA. I SAW TREES GROWING ON THE SIDES OF MOUNTAINS, BUT THE REASON THE TREES DON'T GROW ON MOUNDS IS MOST PEOPLE JUST BLEND ALL THE TOPSOIL AND THEY LOSE THE TOPSOIL AT JEROME VILLAGE. GO LOOK AT OUR MOUNDS. WE TORE OFF THE TOPSOIL. WE STOCKPILED THE TOPSOIL. WE BUILT THE ROADS. WE BUILT THE MOUNDS OUT OF THE CLAY AND EVERYTHING. BUT THEN WE PUT THE TOPSOIL BACK ON. SO THERE ARE WAYS, WHETHER IT'S YOUR CODE OR YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE RIGHT DEVELOPER, THAT YOU CAN ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. AND THE TREES DO GROW. I CAN GO BACK TO THE PICTURE OF OUR ROADS AND EVERYTHING, BUT YOU HAVE TO, TO PLAN IT. IT HAS TO BE A LONG TERM FOCUS. BUT WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPE STANDARDS BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE SOIL. WE ARE REQUIRING SOD BECAUSE WITH SOD YOU GET 2 TO 3IN WORTH OF DIRT. WITH THAT SOD. AND IF YOU REQUIRE SOD ON ALL THE SINGLE FAMILY AND ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS THERE AND DON'T ALLOW THEM PLANT, YOU WILL GET A MUCH, MUCH BETTER SOLUTION. GO AHEAD. I JUST ASK A QUICK QUESTION. I BUILT MY HOUSE MANY YEARS AGO IN INDIANAPOLIS BEFORE I CAME TO OHIO. AND WHEN YOU SAY SOD, WHAT PORTION OF THE YARD WOULD ALL OF IT, ALL OF IT.

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WHEN YOU LOOK DOWN THE STREET, ALL THE FRONTS OF THE HOUSES, THEY'RE ON THE CORNER LOT. YOU HAVE A GARAGE AND YOU WILL HAVE AN UGLY LOOKING WALL WITH NO AMENITIES, NO WINDOWS, ETC. AND YOU COULD GO THROUGH COMMUNITIES AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE MAKING UNLESS THERE'S A REASON FROM A STRUCTURE, INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT, WATER DRAINAGE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE'RE MAKING ALL CORNER LOTS BE SIDE LOADED. SO FRONT OF THE HOUSE WILL BE HERE AND THE DRIVEWAY WILL ACTUALLY LOAD OFF THE OTHER STREET. I'M NOT PICKING ON ANY COMMUNITY. THIS IS JUST TO PROVE MY POINT OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE STANDARDS THAT WE'RE PUTTING FORTH. QUIT. DONALD I THERE IS PRODUCT I HAVE WORKED WITH PRODUCTION BUILDERS ALL OVER. I HAVE PRODUCTION BUILDERS IN BELLEFONTAINE AND OTHER THINGS. THIS IS JUST THE EXAMPLES THAT SHOW UP TO THE NORTH OR UP TO THE TOP PICTURE. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY REPEAT PATTERNS HERE FROM AN ELEVATION.

THOSE ELEVATIONS ARE ALL THE SAME. HOUSES IT GETS YOU TO A DIFFERENT PRICE POINT. ET CETERA. THE HOUSES TO THE BOTTOM. AT THE TOP, YOU CAN SEE. NO, NO OVERHANGS. LOOK AT THE OVERHANGS ON THE FRONT. MOST OF THE TIME, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE TRUSSES AND THE ROOFS FALL, YOU HAVE OVERHANGS ON THE FRONT. BUT LOOK AT THE SHADOWING. LOOK AT THE ARCHITECTURAL DIFFERENCE.

WHEN YOU ADD THAT TO THE SIDE OF A HOUSE, IT BRINGS SOME OF THOSE FEATURES THERE, WE ARE REQUIRING ALL WINDOW TRIM, SO THIS HOUSE HAS NO WINDOW TRIM AROUND IT, IT HAS NO LANDSCAPING BEDS OR GREENERIES. THIS IS THE EXAMPLE WHERE THEY JUST PUT TWO INCHES WORTH OF MULCH. NOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GET AWAY WITH THAT ONE BUSH THAT YOU SEE THERE. BUT WE'RE REQUIRING THE WHOLE FRONT THERE TO BE LANDSCAPED AND ACTUALLY COUNT THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT WERE THERE. LOWER PICTURE HAS NO WINDOWS IN THE GARAGE DOOR. IF YOU LOOK, THE UPPER PICTURE DID ADD WINDOWS TO THE GARAGE DOOR, AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE 16 FOOT ALUMINUM DOOR LOOKS LIKE WITH AND WITHOUT OF THEM. AND THEN THIS ONE HAS NO STREET TREES. IT'S ALSO SOME COMMUNITIES LIKE THIS. I CHOOSE NOT TO LIKE IT, BUT ALL THE COLORS HERE ARE DIVERSIFICATIONS OF GRAYS AND BROWNS. NOW, IF YOU GO INTO SOME COMMUNITIES, THEY WILL USE A COMMENT ALL NATURAL COLORS AND THAT MEANS YOU GET WHITE, GRAYS AND BROWNS. SO THAT'S WHAT SOME PEOPLE WANT. JEROME VILLAGE. WE USE THAT DIVERSITY IN THE 12 COLOR PALETTES IN ORDER TO DIVERSIFY THAT. AND AGAIN, I THINK IT TURNED OUT VERY, VERY WELL, THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLES. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP ONE YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WHITE WINDOW TRIM THAT IS THERE. NOW YOU DON'T HAVE THAT WINDOW TRIM, WOOD WINDOW TRIM WHEN YOU HAVE AN ALL BRICK HOUSE BECAUSE YOU PUT THE MORTAR IN THE STUCCO RIGHT UP THERE. BUT YOU CAN START TO SEE SOME OF THE ELEVATIONS AND THE CHANGES AND THE ARCHITECTURE. AND I'M TRYING TO GET YOU KNOW, I HEAR THE WORD WE DON'T WANT COOKIE CUTTER HOUSES. AND I KNOW THERE'S NO EXPLANATION TO WHAT A COOKIE CUTTER HOUSE IS, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET A STANDARD PACKAGE TOGETHER THAT ELIMINATES COOKIE CUTTER HOUSE WITH WITHOUT REALLY KNOWING WHAT IT IS, THERE'S TWO EXAMPLES OF SIDE LOADED GARAGES THERE THAT WHICH WOULD BE CORNER LOTS, WE'RE EXTENDING THE DIVERSIFICATION TO THE WILCOX COMMUNITY. I'M ALREADY WORKING WITH WILCOX. SO THIS IS WHAT THEY CALL SUBURBAN CLASSIC. THIS IS WHAT THEY BUILT ON WOODSIDE.

THEY PUT ALONG INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT THE BACKS OF ALL THEIR UNITS TO BE UP AGAINST THAT. THEY PUT PORCHES OUT. TECHNICALLY, THAT'S THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, BUT THEY BUILT THE PORCHES AND REDESIGNED IT, SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE IT'S A REAR LOADED PRODUCT. BUT THIS IS THEIR TRADITIONAL STUFF, I'M AWARE OF OTHER PRODUCT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT IN YOUR STRATEGY IS MAINTAIN RURAL CHARACTERISTICS. HOW CAN WE DO THAT? WELL, HERE'S A HERE'S A MODERN FARMHOUSE VERSION THAT THEY'VE CREATED IN JUST NORTH OF POWELL, OHIO, THAT THEY HAVE THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THIS PRODUCT. WE'RE PUSHING A LITTLE BIT ON THE LANDSCAPE STANDARDS AND THEY'RE PLAYING ALONG WITH, BEING WILLING TO INCREASE THOSE. HERE IS A MODERN CRAFTSMAN. THEY DID THIS JUST NORTH OF PICKERINGTON, SO THEY'RE WILLING TO CHANGE THE PRODUCT THAT THEY WANT. THERE IS A HUGE MARKET FOR THE EMPTY NESTER MARKET IN MARYSVILLE RIGHT NOW, AND IT IS, IT IS A MARKET THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND. MY PARENTS ARE THE BOOMERS, SO AND THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY EMPTY NESTERS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN OUT OF THE COOP FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. BUT I TECHNICALLY MY CHILD, MY CHILDREN ARE GONE. SO I'M 57 AND I AM TECHNICALLY AN EMPTY NESTE. SO THAT GENRE IS ACTUALLY TWO MAJOR. I KNOW I LOOK YOUNG FOR

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BUT OUR TARGET HERE IS, AGAIN, RESTAURANTS. WE LOVE THE DESIGN HERE. THIS IS ACTUALLY A DESIGN IN POWELL, OHIO TO THE SOUTH. AND I'M JUST USING THESE EXAMPLES. WE'LL WORK WITH YOUR DESIGN REVIEW. IF YOU GUYS HAVE AN OPINION WE'LL TAKE THAT. BUT THIS IS ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY RIGHT UP AGAINST POWELL ROAD. AND ALL THE PARKING IS IN THE BACK. SO WE HAVE A DESIGN WITH SERVICE ROAD B TO BE ABLE TO DO THE ONE TO THE SOUTH. THEY HAVE RESTAURANTS ON BOTH ENDS AND THEN SERVICE ENTITIES IN THE MIDDLE, SAME THING. THIS ONE TO THE NORTH IS ACTUALLY IN SHAWNEE HILLS ACROSS FROM THE BOGEY. AND, THEY HAVE A COFFEE SHOP ON ONE END, THEY HAVE A RESTAURANT ON THE OTHER, AND THEY'RE FILLING OUT THE REST FOR SERVICES. SO THIS IS THE USES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND WE'RE OPEN TO HOW THOSE DESIGN THERE WHEN WE GET THERE, ADDITIONAL SLIDES, I'M GOING TO GO TO THIS ONE FIRST. I MENTIONED A 30% COMMON AREA. SO WE ARE CONSOLIDATING ALL OF OUR HOUSES IN THE SUB AREA PODS. WE WILL HAVE COMMON AREA. AS YOU SEE I'M GUARANTEEING YOU 10% COMMON AREA A THROUGH G, 5% ON THE RETAIL BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR CODE. BUT THEN I'M ADDING THE 53 ACRES THAT WE'VE ASSEMBLED TO THE NORTH THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE TRAILS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THROUGH. SO THE EXTENSIONS OF ALLENBY, ALL OF THOSE SORT OF THINGS. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DETENTION PONDS. WE ARE ACTUALLY USING OUR DETENTION PONDS TO MAKE THEM AMENITIES IN THE CHANGE OF USE. SO YOUR CODE REQUIRES A 40 FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN CHANGE OF USES, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS INCORPORATE THOSE DETENTION PONDS INTO THAT CHANGE OF USE WITH LANDSCAPING AROUND THE TRAILS AROUND IT IN ORDER TO NOT JUST HAVE 60 FOOT WORTH OF GREEN SPACE THAT I EITHER MOW OR I LET YOU KNOW, GROW UP NATURAL IN A TALL. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS TO COUNT THE DETENTION PONDS OR NOT. I WOULD JUST POINT HERE I AM COUNTING THEM, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO USE THEM IN A VERY UNIQUE WAY. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THEM AMENITIES TO THE PROJECT, AND I'M THREE TIMES I THINK I'M ALREADY WHERE YOU GUYS WANT GENERAL PEOPLE TO BE FROM THE COMMON AREA. FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, I THINK THIS TOP PART IS REALLY IMPORTANT. YOU HEAR TERRY NOT THREATENED, BUT WARN PEOPLE ABOUT IT THAT YOU MADE A $15 MILLION INVESTMENT IN A REGIONAL PUMP STATION ON THE EAST SIDE. AND IF YOU GUYS REJECT ALL THE GROWTH ON THE EAST SIDE, ETC, THAT SOMETHING HAS TO PAY FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT IF YOU APPROVE THIS PROJECT. I'VE GOT JUST THE TAP FEES. NOW, I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE LEVEL OF THE TAP FEES, BUT THIS IS THE TAP FEES THAT WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY. WE'RE GOING TO PAY YOU BACK 98.88% OF THAT $15 MILLION. JUST WITH THE RESIDENTIAL THAT WOULD BE APPROVED IN THIS PROJECT. AND WAS APPROVED IN ANNEXATION, ONE THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY OF THE TAP FEES THAT THE INDUSTRIAL USERS, AND THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH WILL COME WITH NACO.

SO THAT WILL BE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FROM THAT STANDPOINT, AND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN USE THAT WITH WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO, BUT THAT'S SHOWING THAT THE INVESTMENT ON THE EAST SIDE IS GOING TO RETURN ITSELF VERY, VERY QUICKLY. IT'S NOT EVEN OPERATIONAL YET. 1.5% INCOME TAX, I'M GLAD BRAD CAME IN HERE. I'M NOT ABOUT TO CALCULATE THAT, BUT HE'S A MASTER AT CALCULATING THE INCOME TAX THAT YOU'LL GET OFF OF THIS. I CAN GIVE YOU, YOU KNOW, ESTIMATED LAND VALUES OR.

I'M SORRY, NOT LAND VALUES, INCOME VALUES AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. BUT YOU'RE GOING TO GET THAT ALL THERE, AND THE OTHER PIECE HERE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE ACTUALLY SHOWN THIS.

SO JUST ON THE ANNEXATION ONE RESIDENTIAL PIECES AND THE RETAIL AND THE RESIDENTIAL PIECES ON ANNEXATION THREE, THE CDA AT THE 5.5 MILLS WILL PRODUCE $38 MILLION OVER THE FIRST 40 YEARS. SO THAT WILL PAY BACK THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS THERE IN THE COMMON AREAS, THE UNLOADED ROADS THAT WILL HELP PAY THE SCHOOLS. I'VE MET WITH THE SCHOOLS A COUPLE TIMES AND

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SO INFRASTRUCTURE FIRST, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE IN THIS ONE. THE UNLOADED ROADS HAVE TO BE BUILT FOR US TO GET TO THE BACK OF THE PROJECT. NO TIFFS. I HEAR THAT LOUD AND CLEAR. HIGHER DESIGN STANDARDS NOT ONLY THE COMMON AREAS, BUT THE HOUSES THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILT. NO COOKIE CUTTER HOME, DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS, RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, WALKABLE. NOT ONLY OURS, BUT WE'RE ALSO CONNECTING TO THE EXISTING. SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO TAKE THEIR BIKE AND GO TO WAFFLE HOUSE FOR BREAKFAST, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A PATH TO DO IT. CONNECTED COMMUNITIES.

WE'RE GOING TO CONNECT EVERY SUBAREA WITH EVERY OTHER SUBAREA WITH TRAIL SYSTEMS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. AND HOPEFULLY CONNECT TO SCOTS FARMS. AND THIS WILL CONNECT TO THE OTHER PARTS OF MARYSVILLE EAST. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. ADDITIONAL SUPPORT, ADDITIONAL SUPPORT. I'M NOT TAKING ANY OF THE TAX BASE AWAY FROM THE SCHOOLS OR ANY OF THOSE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO PAY THEM MORE FROM THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY, SO THAT IS MY CHECKLIST OF WHAT I HEAR. THE RESIDENTS SAY. QUESTIONS DOES COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS? I WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THE NEW COMMUNITY AUTHORITY. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, A TOOL WE'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO USE. PARTLY BECAUSE IT USED TO BE REQUIRED A LARGE PROPERTY. AND SO THIS IS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING REALLY GOOD FOR PAYING FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, PAYING FOR THOSE SUPPORT SERVICES LIKE POLICE, FIRE, EMS,

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THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S TEN, 15, 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. BUT THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS THAT TRAFFIC STUDY, KYLE HAS US EVALUATING 11 DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND NOT ONLY THE IMPACT OF THIS, BUT THE IMPACT OF THE ENTIRE MARYSVILLE EAST PLAN. YOU KNOW, THE POINT IS TO PUSH THE TRUCKS TO SCOTTS LAWN, BECAUSE THAT'S THE GYM FOR ANY OF THE INDUSTRIAL PIECES. BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH, AND PROBABLY NOT OUT OF LINE HERE, SAYING THAT IT'S VERY LIKELY YOU WILL SEE A ROUNDABOUT ON US 36 INTO THE ENTRY. I DO NOT SHOW IT HERE BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC PLAN HAS NOT PLANNED THAT OUT, BUT WE'VE ALREADY HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY. S.F. THAT IS THE THAT'S A BIG PIECE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF WHERE THAT WOULD BE. SO I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE A TRAFFIC LIGHT, GOING ALL THE WAY BACK. I THINK THERE IS THERE'S SOME PLANS TO MITIGATE TRAFFIC THAT COMES THROUGH THIS.

I WOULD FULLY EXPECT THAT TO BE A CONTROLLED INTERSECTION. AND THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A LIGHT, BUT I THINK THAT WHERE WE TOUCH 36 BECAUSE OF WHERE THE UTILITIES ARE, I THINK A ROUNDABOUT WOULD ACTUALLY PROBABLY MAKE MORE SENSE BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO EXPAND IT.

THE ROAD IN FRONT OF YOU ARE, AND I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO URA ABOUT THAT. AND SO THEY'VE WORKED WITH ME ON THIS PROJECT AS WELL AS CULVERS AND SOME OF THE OTHER FOLKS. AND I WILL ALSO TELL YOU THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF RESIDENTS, BUT I HAVE REACHED OUT TO MOST OF THE RESIDENTS. I

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SO NOT THE STAND ALONE PRODUCT. I THINK IF THIS CITY COUNCIL, IS INTERESTED IN THAT, AND I WOULD REALLY DEBATE AS TO WHERE YOUR RESIDENTS STAND ON SMALLER HOUSES, WE PUT A PRODUCT IN AT JEROME VILLAGE, WHICH IS ABOUT THEIR DUPLEXES, 625 TO 700 SQUARE FOOT, SINGLE ONE BEDROOM UNITS. WE PUT THEM TOGETHER. IT'S A DUPLEX, AND THEN THEY ARE STANDALONE TWO BEDROOM AND STANDALONE THREE BEDROOM. THE TWO BEDROOMS ARE 11 TO 1200 SQUARE FOOT, AND THE THREE BEDROOMS ARE 14 TO 1600 SQUARE FOOT. NOW IT'S A RENTAL PRODUCT, BUT I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BUILD THAT PRODUCT. THE DIFFERENCE IS IT ELIMINATES THE GARAGES FROM THAT.

ARCHITECTURALLY, THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL LITTLE SMALLER HOUSES. THEY'RE NOT TINY HOMES, BUT IT HAS APARTMENT LIKE PARKING THAT YOU CAN HAVE WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE A PRIVATE GARAGE, BUT IT'S A DETACHED PRIVATE GARAGE. BUT IT IS A CENTRALIZED CIRCLE. ET CETERA. IT'S CALLED COASTAL RIDGE. I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BUILD THAT ON A FOR SALE BASIS, HOMEOWNER

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THE MAJORITY OF MY TIME. I OWN ONE, I THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT YOU'RE HERE, SO THEY ARE GETTING AWAY WITH SOME OTHER THINGS BEING THE SNOWBIRD AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT ULTIMATELY BRAD AND YOU GUYS AND EVERYBODY ELSE IN, IN AREAS THAT HAVE INCOME TAX NEED TO FIGURE OUT, ESPECIALLY FROM THE STATE STANDPOINT. BUT AND THEN YOUR, WHAT WAS THE I FORGOT, IT'S NOW SLIPPED MY MIND WHAT THE FINAL COMMENT WAS. WE TALKED ABOUT TIFFS. TIFFS. YEAH. TIFFS CAN BE AN INCREDIBLY GOOD TOOL. I MEAN, THERE ARE AREAS I UNDERSTAND HOW THEY'VE BEEN USED HERE. I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WERE HERE. AND BOTH COUNCIL THAT WAS HERE AT THE TIME, AND THE SCHOOLS ALL APPROVED IT. BUT IT HAS AN IMPACT ON WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW WITH THE SCHOOL LEVIES AND FROM A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, STRONG SCHOOLS ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHY WE DON'T WANT TO BE ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THEM. THERE ARE GREAT WAYS THAT YOU CAN DESIGN TIFFS TO FUND INFRASTRUCTURE AND TO STOP FUNDING INFRASTRUCTURE. AT THE POINT IN TIME THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS PAID FOR. SOMETIMES THEY STAY OPEN ENDED AND THAT THAT MONEY COMING OFF THAT TIFF WILL GO FUND OTHER THINGS. BUT THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN ADAPT TIFFS TO TERMINATE AT THE POINT IN TIME THAT THE IDENTIFIED INFRASTRUCTURE IS DONE, WHICH THEN THAT MONEY GOES BACK TO SUPPORT THE LIBRARIES AND THE SCHOOLS AND THE FIRE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO I'M NOT GOING TO STAND HERE AND SAY THAT TIFFS AREN'T GREAT RESOURCES FROM A DEVELOPMENT. AND ECONOMIC TOOL, BUT IN THIS CASE, WE JUST DON'T WANT THAT BATTLE. WE HAVE ANOTHER TOOL THAT WE CAN FUND INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGH, WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY. AND YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF NATIONWIDE'S MONEY AT JEROME VILLAGE, I THINK THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST THINGS AS TO WHY THAT DEVELOPMENT TURNED OUT THE WAY IT DID. SO IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, THEN I WILL LET YOU GO ON TO THE OTHER TWO HOURS OF YOUR AGENDA.

DID YOU THINK HE WAS GOING TO BY WITHOUT ME SAYING ANYTHING? OH, OKAY. WE'RE HOPING SO. FIRST, YOU KNOW, FIRST, I JUST WANT TO SAY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'M STEPPING ON ANY TOES, SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME TO EVERYBODY, BUT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW POLICE AND FIRE HAVE BEEN WANTING SOME LAND OUT HERE FOR QUITE A QUITE A BIT OF TIME TO EVENTUALLY BUILD SOME TYPE OF FACILITY. HAS THERE BEEN HAS THERE BEEN CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT, KEEP US HAVING. YES. SOME LAND. YES FOR A NEW FOR A NEW POLICE AND FIRE STATION. FIRE CHIEF. THE FIRE CHIEF THAT RETIRED ASKED FOR A FUTURE SITE OF THREE ACRES. OKAY, IF THAT IS THE REQUIREMENT, FINDING THREE ACRES IN A 1500 1900 ACRE MASTER PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS NOT A PROBLEM. SO IT'S. IT JUST BOILS DOWN TO WHERE THAT NEEDS TO GO. AND HOW WE GO ABOUT DOING THAT. SO YES, WE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS, NOT WITH THE NEW FIRE CHIEF OR ANYTHING, BUT WITH JAY BEFORE WE HAD THOSE AND WITH THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY DISCUSSION AND WE WITH NEW ALBANY BRIGHT AND EARLY TOMORROW MORNING TO FINALIZE, WE WE'VE AGREED BECAUSE OF THEIR PROJECT ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THEY WOULD LIKE A CONTIGUOUS COMMUNITY AUTHORITY BEING OVER THE BUSINESS PARK ON THE EAST AND THE SOUTH. WE'VE DECIDED TO SPLIT THOSE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STILL ALIGNED ON THE MARYSVILLE EAST SIDE OF HOW WE'RE UTILIZING THE MONEY AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. AND THAT INCLUDES THE FIRE, THE POLICE, THE SCHOOLS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT OVER THERE BECAUSE THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY COMING THROUGH THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. SO, BUT WE HAD SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS. WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY. BUT AS WE CIRCLE BACK WITH THIS AND THERE WAS A REAL REASON AS TO WHY WE DISCONNECTED THE FINANCIAL, THE FINANCIAL ITEMS, WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT TIFS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS, WHICH I DON'T THINK THAT TIFFS ARE ON THE TABLE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THEY CAN DISTRACT YOU FROM THE MASTER PLAN AND THE POSITIVES OF A MASTER PLAN. SO WE INTENTIONALLY SEPARATED THOSE THINGS. NOW, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR, WE DID A PRE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT THAT TALKED ABOUT THE ANNEXATION, THE ZONING AND THEN THE FINANCIAL PACKAGE ALL COMING

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WE DON'T COME IN DUE ON DEVELOPMENT. WE LEAVE. SO WE DO LARGE LONG TERM VISION PLAN TYPE THINGS. AND AT JEROME VILLAGE, IT WORKED REALLY WELL. YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT ONE THAT I WAS INVOLVED WITH ON THE NORTH SIDE. IT HASN'T DONE AS WELL. ET CETERA. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE UNDERTOOK ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO OR TWO YEARS AGO, WHEN I LEFT NATIONWIDE. SO ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING IS MASTER PLANNING AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. AND I WOULD PROBABLY ALSO VOLUNTEER NACO BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT SKILL SET ON WHAT THEY'VE DONE ON A LONG TERM BASIS AS WELL. SO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S COMING TO FESTIVE FAIR AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS WE DO INVOLVE OURSELVES IN THE COMMUNITIES, WITH THE SCHOOLS, WITH THE POLICE, THE FIRE AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. SO ABSOLUTELY, I WOULD COMMIT THAT TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN, THE, THE ONE THING YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY YOU SAY THAT PEOPLE PROBABLY DON'T LIKE YOU FOR CERTAIN REASONS. AND I WOULD SAY PEOPLE PEOPLE ALSO DON'T LIKE ME FOR CERTAIN REASONS. DID I SAY THAT THEY DIDN'T LIKE ME? DONALD. YEAH, I ACTUALLY MADE A MENTAL NOTE OF THAT ON, ON ON HERE, YOU KNOW, SO YOU KNOW, BUT BUT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I, I WANT RESIDENTS TO REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, FARMERS ARE SELLING THEIR LAND. AND, YOU KNOW, WE DO NOT CONTROL WHAT FARMERS DO WITH THEIR PROPERTIE. AND, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S A SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION THAT DOESN'T WANT THE TOWN TO GROW. AND AS COUNCIL, WE WERE ELECTED TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW OUR

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YEAH, WE'RE. AND WE'RE BACK ON MARYSVILLE SOUTH, FOR THAT MATTER. SO THIS IS 6.5 ACRES.

THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, WHEN WE CAME UNDER CONTROL OF MARYSVILLE SOUTH, THE SITE OR THE ASSEMBLAGE, OUR TOP PRIORITY WAS GETTING THE PUD IN PLACE, WHICH YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY DONE NOW. SO, FOR LACK OF A BETTER EXPLANATION, THIS IS JUST STARTING TO CLEAN UP. THERE'S ANOTHER 3.6 ACRES THAT IS CONTIGUOUS TO THE 6.5. THAT WILL BE A SUBSEQUENT ANNEXATION. BUT WE ARE JUST PULLING THIS LAND INTO MARYSVILLE SOUTH. DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. HEARING NONE. WONDERFUL. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. THIS BE BACK FOR THIS. BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2024. ORDINANCE

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THANK YOU TERRY. SO YEAH, LAST TUESDAY I WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH KIND OF A COMPARISON OF WHERE WE ARE. WITHIN UNION COUNTY AND OTHER FRANKLIN COUNTY DEPARTMENTS. SO JUST TO RECAP ON THAT AND REMIND YOU, WE'RE BETWEEN THE FOUR DIFFERENT FEES. WE'RE ANYWHERE FROM 12.5 TO 36% LOWER THAN WHAT THOSE COMPARABLES ARE. SO JUST LOOKING TO COME BACK UP TO BE COMPARABLE TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND ALSO WE'D BE REVIEWING THESE EVERY THREE YEARS, THESE THE FEE SCHEDULE. SO DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THIS USED TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE USED TO LOOK OVER EVERY FIVE YEARS. AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. AND THEN WE DECIDED EVERY THREE YEARS, BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE FIVE YEARS, YOU KNOW, IT'S WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THERE WAS A POINT IN TIME WE HAD COVID AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO MEET. SO THIS IS JUST PLAIN CATCH UP TO, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE GOTTEN DONE EARLIER IF WE WEREN'T IN IF THE WORLD WASN'T IN A PANDEMIC. SO, THIS IS REALLY JUST CLEANING UP SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE COVID. SO THIS, THIS WILL BE BACK FOR A

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AUTHORIZING THE INCLUSION OF CERTAIN ADDITIONAL PROPERTY WITHIN SAID DISTRICT KNOWN AS THE OHIO HEALTH EXPANSION AMENDMENT ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING FURTHER. CITIZENS COUNCIL. THIS BE BACK FOR THIRD READING TITLE ONLY ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2020 FOURTH. COMMENTS OF

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