Sep 23, 2024 City Council

[CALL TO ORDER]

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I'M TO START. I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2024 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND STAND RISING FOR THE INVOCATION. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STAND.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALMIGHTY GOD, WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE CITY OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND ITS CITIZENS. AMEN. AMEN ROLL CALL. ZACH BORDNER HERE.

HANK BURBY PRESENT. DONALD BURGER HERE. SCOTT HUNTER HERE. MARK REAMS. J.R. ROUSH HERE. AND

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[PROCLAMATION]

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AND THEN DOING THESE KIND OF PRESENTATIONS AND WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE AGENCIES, AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE DOING IT, IS BECAUSE OF THE LESSONS THAT WE'VE LEARNED DURING THE TORNAD.

WE WANT ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE AGENCIES AND EVERYONE WHO MIGHT THINK ABOUT COLLECTING DONATIONS TO TAKE A BREATH, FOLLOWING DISASTER AND WAIT UNTIL WE CAN ASSESS THE NEEDS JUST LIKE ALL OF THOSE DIAPERS THAT WERE COLLECTED. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, HEY, DID WE NEED DIAPERS? MAYBE MAYBE NOT, OR MAYBE WE NEED LARGER SIZED DIAPERS OR SMALLER SIZED DIAPERS. WE WANT TO TARGET THOSE FOR THE NEEDS OF THE VICTIMS. SO WE'RE ASKING, TAKE A BREATH.

WE'RE ASKING OUR POLICY MAKERS TO ALSO TAKE A BREATH AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU'VE TALKED TO OUR EMA DIRECTOR, TALK TO OUR EOC TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE. AND THAT COMES DOWN TO OUR MESSAGING UNION COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE A PIO OR A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER THAT COVERS THE WHOLE COUNTY. WE HAVE MULTIPLE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICERS. WE HAVE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER FOR THE CITY. WE HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER FOR THE ENGINEER'S OFFICE. WE HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER AT THE EMA. WE HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, ALL OF THOSE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICERS HAVE AGREED TO GET TOGETHER. WE GET TOGETHER QUARTERLY, AND THEY'VE ALL AGREED TO COME TOGETHER FOLLOWING A DISASTER SO THAT THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER AND SEND OUT ONE MESSAGE, BE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, AND THAT'S WHERE THE OFFICIAL MESSAGING WOULD COME FROM. THEY WOULD GO OUT OVER SOCIAL MEDIA, THEY'D GO TO OUR MARYSVILLE TRIBUNE, AND THAT'S WHERE THE MESSAGE FOR DONATIONS MANAGEMENT WOULD GO. SO AND THAT'S HOW IT WOULD GET OUT TO THE PUBLIC. SO VOLUNTEER MANAGEMENT, ANOTHER DISASTER THAT OCCURRED, THIS WAS A TWEET THAT WENT OUT ON THE NIGHT OF THE TORNADO. JUST SOMEBODY TRYING TO HELP AND ALL OF THIS DONATIONS, EVERYBODY WANTS TO HELP. EVERYBODY'S GOT GOODNESS IN THEIR HEART. THEY WANT IT. THEY SEE THE SUFFERING AND THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PERSON, THEY JUST WANTED TO HELP. THEY HEARD SOMETHING. THEY HEARD THE SUFFERING. THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING. HOWEVER, THIS WAS NOT A CREDIBLE VOLUNTEER REQUEST. INCIDENT COMMAND AT THAT POINT DID NOT NEED VOLUNTEERS. THAT WAS THE LAST THING THEY NEEDED AT THAT POINT IN TIME, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS THEN HAD TO PULL OFF OF THE SCENE TO DEAL WITH HUNDREDS OF VOLUNTEERS THAT SHOWED UP ON SCENE, WANTING TO GO OUT INTO THE NIGHT WHERE THERE WERE POWER LINES DOWN, GAS LINES WERE BROKEN. SOME OF THE FIRST RESPONDERS WEREN'T EVEN GOING OUT AT THAT POINT IN TIME YET. WE HAD VOLUNTEERS OUT WANTING TO HELP, BUT REALLY, WE'RE NOT CAPABLE TO AT THAT POINT. SO AGAIN, WHAT WE NEED IS EVERYONE TO TAKE A BREATH, WAIT FOR THE MESSAGING TO COME OUT ASKING FOR VOLUNTEERS. WE AGAIN, WE HAVE A PLAN. WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER MANAGEMENT PLAN. AND AGAIN, THAT PLAN IS THROUGH THE HOPE CENTER BECAUSE VOLUNTEER MANAGEMENT IS SOMETHING THEY DO EVERY DAY. THEY HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE. IF WE JUST SCALE UP THAT SYSTEM, THEY VET VOLUNTEERS. WE WOULD RUN OUR VOLUNTEER

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THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD SEND OUT THAT MESSAGE. SINCE IT IS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH, WE NEED TO REMIND EVERYBODY, DO YOU HAVE YOUR EMERGENCY KITS? DO YOU HAVE ONE AT HOME? DO YOU HAVE ONE AT WORK? YOU HAVE ONE IN YOUR CAR. NOW IS THE TIME TO TURN THOSE OVER. MAKE SURE YOUR FOOD IS FRESH. MAKE SURE YOU'RE MOVING YOUR SUMMER CLOTHES TO YOUR WINTER CLOTHES. HAVE YOUR BLANKETS, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THEN CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS PLANS. THOSE ARE PLANS FOR YOUR BUSINESS OR ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU BELONG TO SO THAT THOSE OPERATIONS CAN KEEP RUNNING. NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS. IF YOUR BUILDING LOSES POWER, IF IT'S FLOODED, CAN YOU MOVE TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION? DOES YOUR STAFF KNOW WHAT TO DO IN THE MIDST OF A DISASTER? I'VE GOT SOME FLIERS BACK THERE AND I PUT MY CARD BACK THERE SO JUST IN CASE, IF YOU NEED HELP DESIGNING ANY OF THOSE PLANS, PLEASE GIVE US A CALL. ANY QUESTIONS? DOES COUNCIL HAVE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS. OH YOU'RE FINE. YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE. HEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH, I HAD SENT THROUGH ANOTHER INFORMATION SESSION. I DON'T RECALL THE INDIVIDUAL'S NAME, BUT IT WAS SOMEONE WHO HAD WORKED FOR A FORMER OHIO GOVERNOR, AND HE SPOKE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL MEDIA AND ITS INFLUENCE. AND YOU, YOU HAD GIVEN AN EXAMPLE OF A NON-CREDIBLE VOLUNTEER REQUEST, BUT IN, IN THAT IT WAS IN A TRAINING SETTING, IN THAT SETTING, HE HAD ALSO HIGHLIGHTED AN EXAMPLE WHERE THERE CAN BE MALICIOUS INTENT WITH THOSE SEEKING VOLUNTEERS OR FOR DONATIONS, SO I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE CHALLENGE THAT YOU FACE WITH SOCIAL MEDIA AND ALL OF THE DIFFERENT VOICES THAT CAN POP UP, I SEE ON FORUMS SOMETIMES.

THERE'S OFTEN THESE REQUESTS FOR HELP AND WHATNOT, AND A LOT OF THESE ADMINISTRATORS OF SUCH FORUMS, THEIR TIME IS MORE AND MORE DEVOTED TOWARDS, TAKING WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, CREDIBLE AND WHAT'S NOT CREDIBLE. SO YEAH, I CAN'T IMAGINE THE CHALLENGE THAT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH. BUT I KNOW IN CASES OF, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCIES IN THE, THE COUNTY AND WHATNOT, THAT IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT THE RIGHT VOICES COME THROUGH AND THE WRONG VOICES ARE, YOU KNOW, SUPPRESSED OR WEEDED, YOU KNOW, WEEDED OUT OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. SO, YES, I DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO DONATIONS. FRAUD. YEAH. THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT ANIMAL, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING I WANTED TO SAY, THE ONE THING THAT YOU MENTIONED AT ONE OF THE PRESENTATIONS WAS THE MONDAY THAT YOU HELPED OVER AT, IN INDIAN LAKE, TO ACTUALLY SEND TRUCKS BACK. CAN YOU MAYBE MENTION THAT JUST JUST THE MAGNITUDE OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN IN A CASE LIKE THIS. SO IN LOGAN COUNTY, I WAS THERE FROM FRIDAY MORNING, THE 15TH UNTIL I WORKED AT ALMOST 24 HOUR SHIFT IN THE LOGAN COUNTY EOC, AND ONE OF THE. AND THEN I WORKED THE FOLLOWING MONDAY AND THAT FOLLOWING MONDAY, ONE OF MY JOBS WAS TURNING AROUND DONATION TRUCKS, FOR ALMOST EIGHT HOURS.

WE TURNED AROUND SEMI TRUCKS OF DONATIONS FROM NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY, KENTUCKY, MICHIGAN, INDIANA, JUST TRUCKS AND TRUCKLOADS OF ITEMS. THEY WERE NEVER REQUESTED. NO ONE HAD SENT OUT A THING. HEY WE NEED BOTTLED WATER. SEND IT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN GET. THAT NEVER WENT OUT.

THESE WERE JUST PEOPLE WHO SAW IT ON THE NATIONAL NEWS AND SAID, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO HELP AND FILL THE TRUCK. YOU KNOW, YOU SEE IT ALL THE TIME. CHURCHES, SCHOOLS. LET'S FILL A TRUCK AND THEN SEND THE TRUCK. AND SO WE WOULD GET THESE CALLS OF PEOPLE 45 MINUTES OUT FROM THE SCENE SAYING, HEY, I'VE GOT A SEMI TRUCK OF SUPPLIES. WHERE DO YOU WANT THEM? AND WE'D BE LIKE, TURN THEM AROUND, AND THEN THEY'D GET VERY ANGRY, YELLING, YOU JUST KIND OF HOLD THE PHONE AWAY. I UNDERSTAND, OKAY? AND TURN FIND A COMMUNITY BACK WHERE YOU ARE AND GIVE THEM. AND THAT WAS THE BEST WE COULD DO BECAUSE WE HAD. NO, WE HAD NO PLACE FOR, AS YOU SAW, THE HIGH SCHOOL GYM WAS FULL. THERE WAS NO OTHER PLACE FOR STUFF THAT WE COULDN'T GIVE OUT BECAUSE THE THING TO REMEMBER THESE, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE A DISASTER, EITHER THEY'RE STILL LIVING IN THEIR HOME, WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE THEIR STUFF OR THEY'RE STAYING IN A HOTEL. SO THEIR WHOLE FAMILY IS IN A HOTEL

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THAT'S WHEN WE CAN ASSESS WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A QUESTION, BUT NORMALLY IN THESE MEETINGS, CITIZENS DON'T ASK A PRESENT. THE PERSON WHO'S DOING THE PRESENTATION A QUESTION, BUT THAT'S THAT'S QUITE ALL RIGHT. BUT IF YOU WANTED TO YOU GUYS CAN SHARE EMAILS OR GO OUT IN THE HALLWAY AND TALK. WHATEVER. YOU GUYS WORK IT OUT. NOT NOT AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THERE WILL BE A PART OF THE MEETING WHERE RESIDENTS CAN SPEAK, ABOUT ANY, ANY ITEM THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. BUT NORMALLY THIS IS JUST A PRESENTATION OF JUST EDUCATION. BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS SHARE EMAILS OR PHONE PHONE NUMBERS OR PHONE NUMBERS OR HOWEVER YOU WOULD WANT TO. SORRY ABOUT THAT. YEAH, I HAVE MY BUSINESS CARD AT THE BACK AND I'M WELCOME TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THROUGH THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO ADD, THE PROCLAMATION AND THE PRESENTATION INTO THE MEETING MINUTES. SO MOVED. OKAY, ALL IN FAVOR? I THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ADMINISTRATION REPOR.

[ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]

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[DESIGN REVIEW BOARD REPORT]

SINCE THERE'S NOT A DASH TO THE PODIUM, WE'LL MOVE ON RESOLUTIO. RESOLUTION A ONE READING ONLY TO

[Res A]

OKAY. DO I HEAR A MOTION? SO MOVED. OKAY. ROLL CALL, MR. REMES. YES. MR. RAUCH? YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. BURBY YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. SIX. YES ORDINANCE A FIRST READING BY

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THIS IS WHAT'S BEFORE COUNCIL IS AN ORDINANCE TO MODIFY OR AMEND SECTION 741 .01 AND OH TWO OF OUR CODIFIED ORDINANCES WITH RESPECT TO, ADULT USE MARIJUANA, AND THE ORDINANCE IS BEFORE COUNCIL. IS PROPOSING THAT, MEDICAL THAT DISPENSARIES, RETAIL DISPENSARIES FOR RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA WILL BE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE CITY. CORPORATE LIMITS, AND THAT, THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE THREE COMPONENTS. THE OTHER TWO COMPONENTS ARE PROCESSING AND CULTIVATION. SO THIS ORDINANCE DOES NOT ADDRESS THOSE TWO COMPONENTS, WHICH, I THINK PLANNING COMMISSION IS PLANNING ON DISCUSSING, IN THEIR OCTOBER MEETING. THANK YOU. COUNCIL YEAH. MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST HAD A QUESTION. SO THIS SAYS TO BE BACK FOR SECOND READING. SO THIS WILL NOT GO THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION. IS THAT CORRECT, THAT'S CORRECT. THIS IS BEING PLACED IN THE BUSINESS REGULATIONS. NOW THE, THE ZONING OF THE CULTIVATION AND THE RULES AND REGULATIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE ZONING OF THE CULTIVATION AND PROCESSING WILL GO THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION WILL COME TO COUNCIL, BUT COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY PER, PER ORC. IT'S THAT TO PROHIBIT ANY OR ALL THREE COMPONENTS. PROCESSING, CULTIVATION AND OR RETAIL DISPENSING. OKAY AND THEN JUST ANOTHER POINT. SO WE HAD ISSUE ONE A YEAR AGO. I THINK IT WAS ISSUE ONE. I CAN'T KEEP TRACK OF THE NUMBERS. ISSUE ONE WAS PASSED BY THE VOTERS OF OHIO, AND THAT ALLOWED INDIVIDUALS TO GROW INDIVIDUALS TO USE RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA. THIS HAS

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SO JEFF AND I WILL GO THROUGH A PRESENTATION TONIGHT REGARDING SOME OF THE PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENTS FOR THE WINDOWS AND DOORS WITHIN OUR UPTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT. SO WE WERE, APPROACHED BY SOME OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEMBERS WITH CONCERNS ON WHAT WAS PERMITTED AS FAR AS MATERIALS FOR WINDOWS, TYPES OF WINDOWS, SO WE PUT TOGETHER A SMALL WORKING GROUP WITH STAFF AND A FEW MEMBERS, TO START TO TALK ABOUT SOME ITEMS RELATED TO ANY CONCERNS FOR VINYL CLAD WINDOWS, MAYBE UPDATING THE CODE TO REFLECT NEW TYPES OF WINDOW PRODUCTS AVAILABLE AND PROVIDING MATERIAL OPTIONS WHILE STILL MAINTAINING THAT KIND OF HISTORIC DESIGN CHARACTERISTIC.

SO THOSE WERE THE GOALS FROM FROM THE GROUP. CURRENTLY THIS IS OUR OUR ZONING CODE. IN THAT FIRST LETTER THERE A WOOD AND VINYL CLAD WOOD WINDOWS AND THEN DOORS SIMILAR TO THE ORIGINAL ARE PERMITTED. THIS WAS THE ITEM THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON WITHIN THE ZONING CODE, SO IN A FEW SLIDES HERE, WE'LL SHOW YOU KIND OF WHAT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THOSE AMENDMENTS, WE WERE ABLE TO RESEARCH ABOUT 28 DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES ON HOW THEY ADDRESS WINDOWS, WHAT MATERIALS THEY'RE USING WITHIN THEIR, HISTORIC DISTRICTS. AND THEN WE TOOK THIS TO PLANNING COMMISSION IN AUGUST FOR A VOTE OF SIX YES AND ZERO NO. SO THESE WERE SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE LOOKED AT. SO DUBLIN HAD SIMILAR TO WHAT OUR CURRENT CODE HAS WITH THE WOOD AND THE VINYL CLAD WOOD, THE, THE, THE COLUMN ON THE LEFT SHOWS COMMUNITIES THAT WERE SPECIFIC ABOUT THE WINDOW TYPES, THE COLUMN ON THE RIGHT WHERE THE OTHER COMMUNITIES WERE. IT JUST SAID, USE, CONTEMPORARY MATERIALS, CURRENT MATERIALS, OR REPLACE IT AS IT WAS. SO THAT COULD BE WOOD, THAT COULD BE VINYL, THAT COULD BE ALUMINUM, SO THEY WERE JUST VERY BROAD ON THEIR SPECIFICATIONS. SO FOR OUR PROPOSED ZONING CODE, WE HAVE A COUPLE CHANGES HERE. SO SECTION A WE HAVE ADDED WE'RE MAINTAINING WOOD. WE'RE ADDING ALUMINUM CLAD AND WE'RE ADDING FIBERGLASS COMPOSITE CLAD. WE'RE REMOVING THE VINYL CLAD WOOD, AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF THIS SECTION WITH THE DOORS, WE ARE ACTUALLY ADDING DOWN TO LETTER D HERE. AND CREATING ITS OWN SECTION FOR DOORS SO THAT THEY'RE NOT IN THE SAME SENTENCE, LETTER B IS A NEW SECTION AS WELL. SO WE'RE REPLACING WINDOWS AND DOORS TO MATCH THE ORIGINAL OPENING WITH THE WIDTH, THE DEPTH AND ALSO INTEGRATING SOME OF THOSE HISTORICAL CHARACTERISTICS. SO IF LIKE THE WINDOW HAD GRIDS, OR MAYBE IT WAS JUST TWO TWO PANELS, WE WANT TO MATCH WHAT THAT HISTORIC STYLE WAS, AND THEN LETTER D THE SAME REPLACE DOORS TO MATCH THE ORIGINAL WIDTH OPENING AND INTEGRATING SOME OF THOSE DESIGN CHARACTERISTICS, SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF MOVING TO THESE TYPES OF WINDOWS ARE THEY'RE MORE DURABLE, LONGER LASTING, EASIER TO REPLICATE SOME OF THOSE WINDOW OPENINGS, AND THEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE BETTER AT MAINTAINING SOME OF THE HISTORIC DESIGN CHARACTERISTICS AND APPEARANCE, WE ALSO HAVE THIS THAT WE USE FOR REVIEWS WITHIN DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, SO THESE ARE OUR DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR HISTORIC UPTOWN, WHICH WERE APPROVED BY DRB IN 2006. SO, IT TALKS ABOUT WINDOWS. THERE'S A COUPLE PAGES THAT TALK ABOUT WINDOWS AND DOORS. SO THIS IS ANOTHER ITEM THAT WE REFERENCE IN COMBINATION WITH THE ZONING CODE. AND THOSE ARE OUR PROPOSED UPDATES. DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS I HAVE A QUESTION. YEAH SO LIKE THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS, 150 YEARS OLD. DOOR THAT'S THAT'S, A TOUGH QUESTION. THAT WE, DEBATED ABOUT AND

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RIGHT, DOES DOES THIS TAKE AWAY THE ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT WIDTH OF A DOOR IN A HISTORICAL HOME? SO THIS IS ALL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT FOCUSED VERSUS RESIDENTIAL. THIS WOULD BE FOCUSED MORE ON OUR BUILDINGS IN THE UPTOWN COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. OKAY. BUT I GUESS SAME LINE OF THOUGHT. DOES THAT TAKE AWAY THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A BUSINESS? I MEAN, A LOT OF THEM ARE NOT GOING TO THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO MODIFY THE STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING TO GO A COUPLE INCHES WIDER ON THE DOOR, UNLESS THEY'RE REALLY DOING A MAJOR RENOVATION TO THAT STRUCTURE WITHIN THE UPTOWN. WOULD THERE BE ANY EXCEPTIONS TO IMPROVE ADA ACCESSIBILITY? THEY COULD I MEAN, THEY COULD DO THAT. YEAH. I MEAN, THEY CAN DO THAT. THEY JUST HAVE TO COME TO DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WITH THEIR PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO THE BUILDING. AND WHAT WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? AND IS IT GOING TO HAVE A SIMILAR CHARACTERISTIC TO THE HISTORIC STYLE THAT'S NOT SO RIGID? IT'S JUST KIND OF A GUIDELINE. YEAH. THERE ARE WAYS TO OKAY. YES. IF SOMEONE WANTED TO DO THAT, WE HAVEN'T HEARD LIKE WE HAVEN'T HAD AN APPLICATION FOR THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE OF SOMEONE TO JUST WANT TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE DOOR. BUT THERE COULD BE WAYS WE, WE COULD REVIEW THAT APPLICATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. JUST TO FOLLOW UP THAT THE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE, IT HAS SOME GUIDELINES FOR LIKE STOREFRONTS AND WHAT THEY SHOULD LOOK LIKE TOO, AND THEN THE IMAGE THAT WE HAVE WITH THE DOORS, IT SHOWS SOME DIFFERENT EXAMPLES THAT THEY COULD POSSIBLY USE, THERE. SO WE DO HAVE THAT DOCUMENT TO LOOK AT AS WELL. FOR THE DRB. SO YEAH, IT DOES GIVE THEM A LITTLE LEEWAY AND KIND OF SOME DESIGN GUIDELINES TO LOOK AT, TO BE IN THAT HISTORICAL TIME FRAME. SO. I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE ADA IS GOING TO OVERRIDE ANY HISTORIC ISSUE. CORRECT SEEING AS HOW THAT'S THE LAW THERE, THERE ARE, REFERENCES FOR LIKE HISTORIC BUILDING CODE, SO IF A STRUCTURE IS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, THEY CAN WORK WITH THE UNION COUNTY BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO, HAVE THEIR BUILDING REVIEWED BASED ON THE HISTORIC CODE REQUIREMENTS, SO THEY MAY NOT HAVE TO MAKE IT ADA DEPENDING ON WHAT IMPROVEMENTS THEY'VE DONE OR THEY'RE THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO. SO WE ALWAYS HAVE THEM TALK TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, AS THEY'RE KIND OF THE ONES THAT WILL HELP WALK THEM THROUGH. IF THIS IS A HISTORIC STRUCTURE, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE REQUIRED TO DO. AND THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN DO.

SO OKAY, WELL, MAYBE THE REAR DOOR IS A WIDER DOOR. YES. THERE COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? I, I THINK THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, I THINK, TO ANSWER COUNCILMAN REEM'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE AGE OF A BUILDING. MOST ALL THE BUILDINGS HAVE THEIR. I KNOW THERE'S A MAP. I HAVE ONE OF WHEN ALL THE BUILDINGS WERE BUILT AND THE AGE OF THOSE BUILDINGS PREDOMINANTLY, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE BUILDINGS ARE ACTUALLY OLDER THAN WHAT THEY LOOK BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE BUILT IN 1860S, 1870S, 1880S.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THEN THERE WAS A HUGE MOVEMENT IN THE 1900S, TO MODERNIZE EVERYONE'S BUILDINGS.

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PEOPLE MODERNIZED, JUST LIKE PEOPLE DO NOW. AND EVERYTHING WENT TO ONE SOLID DOOR. SO, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS IS, YES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE CODE TO ENSURE THAT WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE REPLACING IS ARCHITECTURALLY AND HISTORICALLY IDENTICAL TO WHAT WAS THERE. BUT THE MORE IMPORTANT THING IS, IS TO ALWAYS ENSURE THAT YOUR CODE IS ENFORCING THE MAINTENANCE OF WHAT IS THERE. SO IT DOESN'T GET TO A POINT WHERE YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THE DOOR OR THE ORIGINAL DOOR. AND WE'VE ALL BEEN TO THOSE COMMUNITIES WHERE LIKE MEDINA, TIFFIN, ALL THOSE AREAS, AND THEN SO AND TO MR. ROUSE'S AND TO MISS GARDNER'S COMMENTS. YEAH. IN HISTORICAL DISTRICTS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE SAME POLICIES AS WHAT A NEW BUILD IS.

THAT'S WHY THEY'RE IN HISTORICAL DISTRICTS. SO THAT'S WHY GERMAN VILLAGE AND ALL THESE AREAS ARE PROTECTED BECAUSE IF WE MODERNIZED EVERYTHING, IT WOULDN'T BE A HISTORICAL DISTRICT ANYMORE. AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS THAT'S THE REASON WHY THE REASON WHY I RAN IS BECAUSE OUR HISTORICAL DISTRICT CONTINUES TO BE MODERNIZED WITHOUT THE PHILOSOPHY OF HOW DO WE PROTECT THE CHARACTER OF THE ACTUAL DISTRICT ITSELF. SO THAT'S WHY GERMAN VILLAGE HAS BRICK SIDEWALKS. MARYSVILLE RIPPED OUT OUR BRICK SIDEWALKS BECAUSE WE WERE USING GRANTS THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, WALKABILITY FOR LIKE THE BACK TO SCHOOL GRANTS OR WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED. BUT THOSE GRANTS DON'T PAY FOR REPLACEMENT OF BRICK. SO THAT'S WHY GERMAN VILLAGE DOESN'T USE THOSE TYPES OF GRANTS, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PROTECT THE HISTORICAL CHARM, THE CHARACTER OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THAT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THERE'S A LOT MORE WORK THAT NEEDS DONE. BUT I AM GLAD THAT YOU DID YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND BROUGHT THIS. THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU. WELCOME.

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THIS IS MY FIRST TIME AT ONE OF THE ZONING BOARD MEETINGS, I WANTED TO COME. CAN I MAKE A STATEMENT OR DO I HAVE TO DO A QUESTION, WELL, YOU YOU CAN SPEAK ON, ON ON ORDINANCE C, SO YOU YOU HAVE TIME TO SPEAK. I JUST WANTED TO SAY REAL QUICK, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT OUR

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SO, SO WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IF I CAN ASK ANOTHER QUESTION, IS YOU'VE OUTSOURCED THE GROWTH PLAN FOR MARYSVILLE FROM THIS GROUP HERE. NO, NO, WE'VE HIRED, WE'VE HIRED, WE'VE HIRED AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT TO COME IN SO SOMEBODY DOESN'T LIVE IN IN MARYSVILLE? NO, HE. SO HE ACTUALLY LIVED HERE. HIS KIDS ACTUALLY WENT TO SCHOOL HERE. HIS KIDS STILL ACTUALLY LIVE IN MARYSVILLE. SO HE IS A PART A PART, A PART OF THIS. BUT HE'S NOT PAYING TAXES IN MARYSVILLE.

HE'S NOT. BUT HIS CHILDREN STILL ARE. OKAY. YEAH SO CHILDREN ACTUALLY WORK. SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SCHOOL FUNDING, WHICH IS ONE OF MY CONCERNS, HIGH PROPERTY, HIGH OCCUPANCY DEVELOPMENTS, LIKE HE'S PROPOSING DON'T GET CHARGED TAXES. WELL THEY DO YEAH THEY DO. LANDLORDS SIGNIFICANT. BUT THE TENANTS THAT LIVE THERE ABSOLUTELY PAY TAXES. THEY ARE SENDING THEIR KIDS TO OUR SCHOOLS. YES. WE'RE PAYING THEY PAY TAXES. THE LANDOWNER PAYS TAXES. THE LANDOWNER PUTS A RATE FOR RENTAL THAT INCLUDES THE TAXES. THIS THIS IDEA THAT RENTERS DO NOT PAY TAXES IS ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT. OKAY, MR. PRESIDENT, I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A POINT OF ORDER. SO ORDINANCE C IS IN REGARD TO 15 ACRES. THAT IS SURROUNDED BY THE ANNEXED LAND KNOWN AS MARYSVILLE ONE. SO IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, WE'VE REVIEWED A CONCEPTS OF THE PLAN AND HOW IT WOULD BE ZONED. ACTUALLY, THIS AREA IS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THIS IS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED. SO THIS WOULD BE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, IF KIND OF THE CONVERSATION I UNDERSTAND THAT IS YOUR FIRST TIME IN THE MEETING. I JUST WANT TO BRING THIS TO KIND OF AWARENESS. THIS IS 15 ACRES. IT'S A WOODED ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE OF VARIOUS CORNFIELDS.

AND THIS AREA IS, WHAT WE WOULD WE ALREADY PASSED, LEGISLATION, ANNEXATION AND PASSES ZONING FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS LAND IN IT'S THIS AREA IS GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS THE CONVERSATION RELATING TO RESIDENTIAL GROWTH, I THINK WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR

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THANK YOU. SO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK UP. YEAH. THERE IS AN OFFER. YES FOR ORDINANCE. WHEN WE GET TO E YOU CAN COME BACK UP TO THE TO THE PODIUM. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ORDINANCE C HEARING. NONE COUNCIL THIS WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING TITLE ONLY ON OCTOBER 14TH. ORDINANCE D, SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING

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YEAH. JUST GO BACK TO THE PODIUM AGAIN. STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR PUBLIC RECORD, AND THEN. YEAH YEAH. GOOD EVENING, DAVE DILLEY. I LIVE AT 20539 BARKER DRIVE IN MARYSVILLE, OHIO. AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, I'M OBVIOUSLY CONCERNED ABOUT SCHOOL FUNDING AND THE LONG TERM GROWTH OF MARYSVILLE, I JUST THINK I'D LIKE TO FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A GOOD, SOLID PLAN FOR GROWTH THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE COMMUNITY THAT'S HERE, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THAT ARE GETTING POTENTIALLY HIGHER AND HIGHER TAXES THAT ARE PREVENTING THEM FROM STAYING IN THEIR EXISTING HOMES. THE CURRENT SCHOOL LEVY PLAN IS USING PROPERTY TAX VALUES, WHEN WE SHOULD REALLY BE CONSIDERING INCOME TAX VALUES, WHICH WILL HIT A LARGER, WHICH WILL HELP. I'D HAVE TO ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT PROPERTY TAX CONTRIBUTIONS VERSUS INCOME TAX CONTRIBUTIONS FOR THE FUNDING OF THE SCHOOLS. BUT AND FEEL FREE TO EDUCATE ME IF THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE. THAT'S THE SCHOOL BOARD'S CHOICE. OKAY.

YEAH THAT'S FINE. WE HAVE NO SAY IN THAT. SURE SO, SO YEAH, I'M JUST I, I'VE LIVED IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR 25 YEARS. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THE DIRECTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING, IN TERMS OF EXPLOSIVE GROWTH AND SOME OF THESE LARGER, HIGHER OCCUPANCY AREAS. AND, I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK TOWARDS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WHICH KIND OF BUILT THIS COMMUNITY. AND, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I'M SORRY. I JUST CLEARED MY THROAT. I WASN'T. OH, OKAY. SURE. NO.

YOU'RE FINE. AND THAT THAT WAS THAT WAS ALL I HAD TO SAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT THERE. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. YEAH. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THE EXPLOSIVE GROWTH. SO THE SCHOOL JUST RELEASED THEIR REPORT CARD FOR 2024. THERE'S 5352 STUDENTS IN MARYSVILLE SCHOOL DISTRICT. TEN YEARS AGO, THERE WERE 4718. THAT MEANS IT'S GONE UP 634 STUDENTS IN TEN YEARS. THAT'S 63 STUDENTS A YEAR THAT THAT I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS WITH ME. BUT BASED ON THE MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH THE YEAH, MAYBE THE NUMBERS ARE WRONG, THERE. THOSE ARE NUMBERS FROM THE SCHOOL. YEAH, THE SCHOOL BOARD PROVIDED NUMBERS, RELEASED NUMBERS FROM THE STATE. I, I VERIFIED THEM, OKAY. SO THE SCHOOL BOARD NUMBERS ARE 634 PEOPLE, STUDENTS IN TEN YEARS. THIS IS NOT EXPLOSIVE GROWTH. I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK THE RECORD BECAUSE THE INFORMATION THAT THEY PROVIDED, DOESN'T JIVE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO DOESN'T SURPRISE ME. YEAH, I CAN'T AT THE MOMENT, BUT I WILL DEFINITELY REVIEW AND COME BACK.

TO THIS, JUST TO GET BACK TO THE TOPIC OF THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE. YEAH, THIS PROPERTY IS NOT PLANNED FOR RESIDENTIAL. IT'S PLANNED FOR JOBS. THE SANFORD JOBS COMMERCIAL. YEAH SO

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WE'RE GETTING WE'RE GETTING THERE. OKAY YEAH. I THOUGHT WE WERE ON E. SO IT'S ALL RIGHT. WE ALREADY KNOW. WE SAID IT. WE SAID E SEVERAL TIMES. EXCITED THAT'S ALL. IS THAT WRONG? IT'S ALL RIGHT. I'LL SIT DOWN. MR. PRESIDENT, AGAIN, JUST A POINT OF ORDER, IF YOU WILL, SO I JUST WANT TO REVISE MY EARLIER COMMENTS. ORDINANCE E IS ACTUALLY, RELATING TO THE ANNEXATION ORDINANCE F IS PROBABLY THE MORE APPROPRIATE TOPIC. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION. I WAS MAYBE YOU WOULD CAUGHT THAT. TIM, ORDINANCE F WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE, ORDINANCE TO DISCUSS THE POINT OF WHAT TYPE OF GROWTH. BECAUSE PUD HERE IT IS SLATED RESIDENTIAL. SO I THINK ORDINANCE I KNOW WE SAID ORDINANCE E A COUPLE TIMES BUT JUST WANTED TO REVISE THAT AND SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION. ORDINANCE F WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE. YEAH. AND WE'RE ON OR WE ARE ON CURRENTLY ORDINANCE D CORRECT. OKAY. GOOD OKAY. SO DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING TITLE ONLY ON OCTOBER 14TH. ORDINANCE E SECOND

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GOOD JOB ADMINISTRATION, NOTHING FURTHER. OKAY CITIZENS, THIS IS. YEAH, YOU CAN COME BACK. JUST YOU HAVE TO STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AGAIN. ALL RIGHT. DAVE DILLEY, 20539 BARKER ROAD, MARYSVILLE, OHIO, I'LL SPARE YOU. YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY ALREADY HEARD EVERYTHING. YOU'RE PROBABLY TIRED OF SEEING ME UP HERE, BUT I THINK YOU ALL KNOW HOW I FEEL.

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RIGHT. SO THE BUSINESS IS GOING TO PAY A MILLAGE WHICH THAT MILLAGE CAN GO FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT ONLY FOR, YOU KNOW, ROADS AND OTHER, BUT IN THE FUTURE. THROUGH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A BOARD, IT CAN GO TO FUND, YOU KNOW, POLICE, FIRE, SCHOOLS, INFRASTRUCTURE, CAN GO TO OPERATING COSTS, BUT IT CAN GO FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR CAPEX. RIGHT? SO THIS DEVELOPMENT CHECKS THAT BOX WHERE DEVELOPMENT IS PAYING FOR ITSELF, ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S NO TIFF, RIGHT? SO NO TIFF. SO 100% OF THAT PROPERTY TAX REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED FROM THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO GO TO THE RIGHT BUCKETS. OKAY SO I THINK THAT THAT ADDRESSES YOUR CONCERNS AS IT PERTAINS TO FUNDING FOR PUBLIC SERVICES, I.E. SCHOOLS, DEPARTMENT, DISABILITIES. ET CETERA. OKAY. YEAH. I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE TIFF STRUCTURE, I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY. I'M A ME NEITHER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. JUST CHECKING. YEAH, I'D HAVE TO. I'D HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT A LITTLE MORE AND WE CAN CHAT. YEAH, WHENEVER YOU WANT, BUT. BUT THE REALITY IS, TO PUT IT VERY SIMPLY. THE TIFF STRUCTURE TAKES DOLLARS, PUTS THEM INTO A FUND. INTO A GENERAL FUND THAT PAYS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, WHEREAS THOSE, THOSE PROPERTY TAX DOLLARS WOULD NORMALLY GO TO PAY FOR OR TO FUND OTHER PUBLIC SERVICE. OKAY.

SO LIKE COUNTY SERVICES AND THINGS MAYBE SCHOOLS DEPARTMENT. YEAH ALL OF THOSE. RIGHT. IN THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT AGAIN BECAUSE WE HEARD YOU RESIDENT RIGHT. WE HEARD YOU.

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THE SECOND QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED, I FREQUENTLY DO TAKE INVENTORY OF THE DIFFERENT, APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT ARE OUT THERE. I DO KNOW THAT THE APARTMENT, THERE IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX ON ROUTE FOUR THAT WILL MAKE THE ROOMS AVAILABLE, PER MONTH. YEAH NOW, MOST OF THEM

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WILL BE FOR A SHORT TERM FOR EXACTLY THE SAME PURPOSE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND SOME OF THOSE MAY EVEN BE, FURNISHED AS WELL. YEAH. SO THERE ARE TWO. THERE IS, THERE IS ONE CURRENT OPTION AVAILABLE TO YOU. YEAH. AND IN THE FUTURE THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE OPTIONS AVAILABLE FOR EXTENDED STAY. YEAH. SO THOSE ARE THE, THE TWO QUESTIONS THAT I DO KNOW BECAUSE I GO TO THOSE PLACES QUITE FREQUENTLY TO CHECK WHAT THE INVENTORY IS. OKAY. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANYBODY ELSE.

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THIS MONEY IS COLLECTED AND THEN WILL BE USED FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENT AS THEY ARE NEEDED.

SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, BECAUSE FOR US ON COUNCIL, YEAH, WE DO THIS MAYBE 2 OR 3 TIMES PER YEAR. YEAH. BUT THERE IS A PURPOSE FOR IT. AND THE MAJORITY OF THE MONEY DOES GO BACK FOR IMPROVEMENT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THAT'S WHY THE MONEY NEEDS TO BE COLLECTED FOR THAT. MR. PRESIDENT, CAN I JUST PIGGYBACK ON THAT. AND THEN WE AS COUNCIL HAVE ALSO, THE 20% THAT COMES TO US HAVE BASICALLY COMMITTED THAT THAT'S GOING TO GO BACK INTO THAT AREA AS WELL WITH WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THE MAJORITY OF THE MONEY, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE MONEY IS ALL INFRASTRUCTURE. RIGHT. AND THIS IS MOSTLY AND MY COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE MORE WISDOM THAN I CAN CORRECT ME. BUT TO PIGGYBACK ON EVERYBODY ELSE, THE MAJORITY OF YOU KNOW, THE WAY THIS THIS IS FROM COMMERCIAL SITES. SO THIS IS LIKE THE NEW KROGER AND OTHER BUSINESSES THAT WILL BE LOCATED IN THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALSO WHAT THE JED DISTRICT IS AS WELL. SO WHEN YOU GO TO THAT KROGER, YOU YOU WILL SEE THAT. SO, ANYWAY AND ALSO I'LL JUST PIGGYBACK FOR OTHER PERSON JUST A SECOND. YOU KNOW THE COUNTY IS THE COUNTY IS ABLE TO MAKE HUGE AMOUNTS OF IMPROVEMENT TO INFRASTRUCTURE, AND YOU MIGHT SEE THEIR BUDGETS AND MIGHT THINK, WOW, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. BUT THE MAJORITY OF THAT MONEY, THE COUNTY IS RECEIVING IS SOUTH OF MARYSVILLE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT IS THAT IS THAT'S IN WHEN THE SOUTHERN HALF OF UNION COUNTY, WHICH IS WHY THE COUNTY'S BUDGET IS, IS, IS GROWING TO THE MAGNITUDE THAT IT IS. SO I MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION ROLL CALL. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. BURBY YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REAMES YES. MR. ROUSH YES. SIX.

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I HAD COME TO THESE TYPES OF MEETINGS FOR A YEAR OR MORE, PROBABLY BEFORE I SPOKE. SO THE FACT THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO ENGAGE NOW IS JUST, IT'S A GREAT THING TO SEE CITIZENS BOTH IN THE CITY, OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, TO PARTICIPATE, COUNTLESS TIMES I HEAR COMMENTS FROM RESIDENTS IN THE CITY, ASKING ME THINGS, TELLING ME THEIR OPINIONS, BUT THEY DON'T SHOW UP HERE. AND THEY DON'T SPEAK. SO IT'S. I APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS, PEOPLE VOICING CONCERNS, TRYING TO LEARN, TRYING TO BE PART OF HOW THINGS ARE CHANGING, ALSO JUST A COMMENT RELATING TO DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL. SO A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMING FORWARD THAT I SEE, CAN FORESEE, IN THE FORM OF A PUD, I THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND, A BENEFIT OF A PUD.

BUT ALSO I WOULD SAY FOR ME PERSONALLY, THE THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO BE CONSIDERING A BENEFIT AND I WALKED THROUGH MILL VALLEY A FEW YEARS AGO. I WALKED THROUGH THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, I WON'T SPEAK TO AS TO WHY, BUT I WALKED THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT IS A LARGE JUST A IT SEEMS LIKE A SEA OF ENDLESS HOMES. TO BE HONEST, IT'S A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS TOUCHING EACH OTHER. A LOT OF, MILL VALLEY ONE, TWO, THREE TOUCHING EACH OTHER AND A PETE.

WHAT A PUD CAN DO IS IT BRINGS DIVERSITY TO KIND OF THE HORIZON AND WHAT YOU SEE, AND IT ALLOWS THERE TO BE A BREAK AND NOT JUST BE A CONTINUATION OF THE SAME THING, AS DEVELOPMENTS COME THROUGH, WE WILL CERTAINLY HEAR VOICES THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT GROWTH. THERE ARE VOICES THAT ARE TALKING FOR AGAINST GROWTH. THERE ARE VOICES TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABILITY OR LACK OF AFFORDABILITY, AND A DESIRE TO SEE AFFORDABILITY. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS ALREADY IN THE WORKS, THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 736 THAT THERE'S NOW BULLDOZERS AT, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WHAT ARE THEY DOING THERE? BUT THAT DEVELOPMENT, WAS THERE WERE SOME CHANGES. THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED, I THINK IN THE MID 2000 AND THE RECESSION CAUSED A HALT ON THAT, BUT THEN A FEW YEARS AGO, MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO OR SO, THAT ACTUALLY CAME THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THERE WAS AN APPROVAL ON THE ZONING FOR THAT AND THE SKETCH PLAN, THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW IS, IS A RESULT OF DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE TWO YEARS AGO. BUT IT IS A SURPRISE TO MANY BECAUSE IT IS A LOT OF WORK TO STAY ON TOP OF ALL OF THIS. BUT I WOULD JUST CHALLENGE US AS COUNCIL TO LOOK BEYOND THE QUESTION SIMPLY, IS GROWTH GOOD OR BAD, OR IS AFFORDABILITY SOMETHING WE NEED OR WE DON'T? AND MORE SO LOOK AT THE PLANS THAT ARE PUT FORTH. AND REALLY THE QUALITY OF A PLAN THAT'S PUT FORTH ASK YOURSELF THE QUESTION, IS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S DRAWN UP IN LINE WITH OUR VISION STATEMENT THAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON WELL PLANNED NEIGHBORHOODS, THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, ONCE THEY'RE BUILT, THEY'RE THERE AND THEY'RE THERE FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS. UNLESS SOME TRAGIC EVENT WOULD HAPPEN, SO IT'S JUST LIKE STATED, I THINK THE LAST SENTENCE IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING REDONE, AND MAYBE YOU KIND OF SPOKE TO THAT, BUT IT'S WHATEVER WE APPROVE TODAY, THAT'S THERE, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL OF TIME OR AT LEAST THE NEXT HUNDRED YEARS, WE CAN FORESEE THAT BEING THERE. SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE CONSIDER BEYOND WE CONSIDER THINGS BEYOND JUST A MATTER OF GROWTH OR AFFORDABILITY. AFFORDABILITY AND JUST CONSIDER MORE SO THAT DECISIONS WE MAKE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT'S BEFORE US AND ASK OURSELVES IS THIS IS THIS THE BEST? AND IS THIS WHAT WE, WHAT WE CONSIDER THE BEST AND WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE GO IN THIS SPACE FOR THE NEXT HUNDRED YEARS? AND WITH THAT, I'LL, THAT'S I'LL FINISH MY COMMENTS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YOU. I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER. I'LL LET YOU GO. OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU. GIVEN THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SERVICES, THE OPPORTUNITY SEPTEMBER IS EMERGENCY AWARENESS MONTH, AND, WHEN I SAW, KATHY'S PRESENTATION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I INVITED HER TO COME OUT AND MAKE US AWARE OF SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT THEY ARE DEALING WITH. BUT ALSO MAKING US AWARE OF ALL THE THINGS THAT SHE TALKED ABOUT, IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY, KNOW WHERE TO GO TO WHO'S IN CHARGE, WHAT TO DO, WHAT NOT TO DO. SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU THANKS FOR ALLOWING HER TO COME OUT AND DO THE PRESENTATION TODAY. THANK YOU. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO MY ATTENTION. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS FASCINATING TO KNOW THAT IN TIMES OF NEED, PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO HELP. AND I TRULY BELIEVE NO MATTER WHAT THE MEDIA TELLS US. I THINK AS A HUMAN RACE, WE STILL WANT TO CONNECT

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BUT SOMETIMES WITH THE DAYS OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND JUST OUR EVERYDAY LIVES AND HOW QUICKLY WE ARE, WE'RE SO QUICKLY TO JUMP TO A CONCLUSION AND SOMETIMES IT'S EASIER TO STEP BACK AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE WE'RE CONTACTING THE RIGHT INDIVIDUALS OR, AND, AND HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THE LAST THING I, YOU KNOW, I'LL SAY IS ALSO, YOU KNOW, ALSO, I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT, AND SPEAKING BECAUSE IT TAKES A LOT TO STAND UP IN FRONT OF A PODIUM AND SPEAK ON PUBLIC RECORD AND, AND, YOU KNOW, FOR AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN OUR MINUTES FOR ALL ETERNITY NOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, I STARTED, I THINK, WHEN I WAS LIKE 12 AND I STARTED ATTENDING CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND, SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEY THEY'VE SEEN ME AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, AND I GOT ON PLANNING COMMISSION AND I MOVED, MOVED OUR WAY UP TO WHERE I AM NOW. AND TO COUNCILMAN HUNTER'S, YOU KNOW, STATEMENT. IT'S THE THIS IS THE REASON WHY I RAN IS BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT MARYSVILLE IS AT A CRUCIAL POINT WHERE WE CAN REALLY CONTROL OUR FUTURE. AND CONTROLLING WHAT OUR COMMUNITY LOOKS LIKE AND HOW IT'S DEVELOPED, AND PROTECTING OPEN SPACE AND TREES AND BUILDING A WORKFORCE. THAT'S THAT. TRIBUTES TO OUR SOCIETY AND BUILDING A HOUSING, HOUSING, HOUSING THAT SUPPORTS SCHOOL LEVIES AND SUPPORTS THE NECESSARY NEEDS FOR US TO GROW, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, BUT ALSO I'M, I'M A, I'M A PLANNER. SO I ALSO UNDERSTAND AFFORDABILITY AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE LIVE IN A CRUCIAL TIME AND NOT ONLY HERE IN MARYSVILLE, BUT, I MEAN ALL OVER, NOT ONLY IN AMERICA, BUT ACROSS THE GLOBE. AND I THINK THAT YOUR REPRESENTATION THAT YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE MARYSVILLE AND AMERICA, WE'VE ALL GONE THROUGH AREAS OF CONCERN AND DISTRESS. AND YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD. AND I'M LIKE I SAY, I'M ALWAYS OPTIMISTIC AND I BELIEVE WE WILL. BUT YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT HOW OTHER COMMUNITIES GROW, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WHY WE'RE UP HERE, YOU KNOW, THIS LAST ELECTION, THERE WAS ONLY THERE WAS OVER 5000 RESIDENTS WHO VOTED. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A TURNOVER ON COUNCIL. AND I RESPECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM WHO I SERVED WITH. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY'RE LIKE FAMILY BECAUSE YOU COME UP HERE AND YOU MEET THESE INDIVIDUALS AND YOU BECOME CONNECTED WITH THEM, AND YOU HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM, AND YOU BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS AND, YOU KNOW, SO BUT MOVING FORWARD NOW, WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE STEPS AND FIGURING OUT HOW DO WE GROW, BECAUSE RESIDENTS WILL SAY WE WANT SUSTAINABLE GROWTH. WELL, THERE'S AND IF YOU LOOK UP SUSTAINABLE GROWTH, THERE'S FINE DEFINITIONS OF WHAT SUSTAINABLE GROWTH IS. IT'S SUPPORT SUPPORTING HOUSING. IT'S PROTECTION OF OPEN SPACE. IT'S PROTECTION OF THE QUALITY OF THE COMMUNITY WITH LANDSCAPE AND TREES. I MEAN, THERE'S IT'S REALLY DEFINED. IT'S NOT THIS IMAGINARY WORD. SO IF WE ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY BE A COMMUNITY THAT SUPPORTS THESE THINGS AND WE HAVE TO START PUTTING IN PUBLIC POLICY, HOW DO WE ACTUALLY SUPPORT THESE THINGS? AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON DOING. AND I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES AS CENTRAL OHIO HAS MADE. WE HAVE SEEN THE GROWTH AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. SO NOW IS OUR TIME TO BUILD A BETTER FUTURE FOR MARYSVILLE. AND HOPEFULLY AS A RESIDENT, YOU CAN BE A PART OF THAT. SO NEVER BE

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