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[CALL TO ORDER]

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EVERYBODY TO THE DECEMBER 2ND CITY COUNCIL MEETING. RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND STAY RISING FOR THE INVOCATION. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALMIGHTY GOD, WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND ITS CITIZENS. AMEN. ROLL CALL. ZACH BORDNER HERE. STEVEN WOLF HERE. HANK BURBY PRESENT. DONALD BERGER HERE. SCOTT HUNTER

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

HERE. MARK REAMS HERE. AND J.R. ROUSH HERE. DO I HAVE ANY? IS THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS TO THE NOVEMBER 12TH, 2024 SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE NOVEMBER 12TH, 24 SPECIAL. CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. IS THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS NEED TO BE MADE TO THE NOVEMBER 12TH, 2024 CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE NOVEMBER 12TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES. ALL IN

[APPOINTMENTS]

FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF APPOINTMENTS. THIS EVENING. SO IF YOU ARE, IF YOU ARE HERE AND YOUR NAME IS CALLE, JUST STAND SO YOU CAN SO WE CAN JUST NOTICE THAT YOU'RE HERE AND RECOGNIZE YOU. BUT WE WILL BUT WE WILL APPLAUD AT THE, AT THE, AT THE VERY END. JUST, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS. SO THE CITY MANAGER APPOINTMENT WOULD BE TO REAPPOINT MICHAEL NICHOLSON.

THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT, MISTER PRESIDENT. MIKE'S SERVED ON THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, AND WE'D LIKE TO REAPPOINT HIM TO THAT POSITION. OKAY. AND THERE'S THAT'S A NO VOTE REQUIRED ON OUR PART. SO WE ARE GOING SO I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM. THE REAPPOINTMENT OF JULIE KRAMER TO THE CEMETERY ADVISORY BOARD. THIS GOES FROM JANUARY FIRST 2025 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2026. REAPPOINTMENT OF ANTHONY WILL TO THE CEMETERY ADVISORY BOARD FROM JANUARY 1ST 25 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2026. THE REAPPOINTMENT OF WOODY WILSON TO THE CEMETERY ADVISORY BOARD JANUARY 1ST, 2025 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2027. REAPPOINTMENT OF TODD BENNETT TO THE UTILITY CLAIMS BOARD OF APPEALS, JANUARY 1ST, 2025 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2026. THE REAPPOINTMENT OF ADAM PARKER TO THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, JANUARY 1ST, 2025 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 29. I THINK WE NEED. WAIT A MINUTE. YEP. AND CAN WE CAN WE HAVE A VOICE VOTE ON TODD BENNETT AND ADAM PARKER? CAN WE DO THOSE TOGETHER? SURE. OKAY. I'D MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT BOTH. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AND THEN FOR THE NEXT THREE, DO YOU WANT ME TO READ THEM ALL? AND THEN WE LUMP THEM TOGETHER AND ONE IS THAT COMFORTABLE WITH EVERYBODY? OKAY. REAPPOINTMENT OF SCOTT ROSS TO DESIGN REVIEW BOARD FROM JANUARY 1ST, 2025 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2029. YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE FOR JUST A MINUTE, AREN'T YOU? REAPPOINTMENT TO PAIGE LAMB. TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION JANUARY 1ST, 2025 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2028. THE REAPPOINTMENT OF MICHAEL NICHOLSON TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION JANUARY FIRST, 2025 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2028. AND THE REAPPOINTMENT TO ANGELA ANDREA WEAVER TO THE LOCAL BOARD OF TAX REVIEW, JANUARY FIRST, 2020. JANUARY 1ST, 25 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 26. AND THEN MOVE TO MAKE THE FOUR APPOINTMENTS THAT WE HAVE JUST DISCUSSED. ALL IN FAV?OR A. U. ADMYOISTRATINNIO

[ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]

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SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. HEY, MATT, IF YOU OPEN THAT UP, YOU AND JUST A LITTLE SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD TAKE WITH YOU. YES. AND IF YOU LIKE, IN YOUR BEDROOM. YES, I, I COVERED THE CITY WHEN YOU GUYS DESIGNED THIS. WHEN THIS WAS DESIGNED. SO I WANTED IT TO BE A JUG OF WATER. I GOT OUTVOTED. SO ANNA WOULD LIKE TO GET A PICTURE OF ALL OF US UP HERE. CAN YOU GUYS HELP? HOLD IT? CAN YOU HELP? HOLD IT UP. TURN IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

OH, YEAH. OH, WE COULD HAVE IT UPSIDE DOWN. THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT TO HOLD IT RIGHT OVER HERE? THERE YOU GO. YOU GUYS READY? OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. REALLY APPRECIATE. I.

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THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. THANKS AGAIN. MATT. THANK YOU. OKAY. MISTER PRESIDENT, YOU GUYS HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO STAY AS LATE THIS EVENING. WE DO HAVE A FEW THINGS TONIGHT. REAL QUICK. I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AN EVENT COMING UP ON SATURDAY, DECEMBER 14TH. IT'S CALLED SHOP WITH A HERO. THE MARYSVILLE FIRE AND POLICE WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN SHOP WITH WITH A HERO FROM 8 TO 11 A.M. ON THE 14TH. THERE WILL BE A PROCESSION OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES FROM MARYSVILLE HIGH SCHOOL BEGINNING AT 9 A.M. TO STORES ON COLEMAN'S CROSSING. EACH FIRST RESPONDER WILL BE TAKING A LOCAL CHILD SHOPPING AT MYER OR WALMART FOR THE DAY. SO SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE IN TOWN AND YOU'RE NAVIGATING AROUND TOWN AND YOU SEE THIS, IT KIND OF SCARES YOU A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE YOU'RE SEEING ALL THESE FLASHING LIGHTS AND THINGS GOING ON. BUT IT'S AN AWESOME EVENT. REALLY WANT TO THANK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR DOING THIS. AND SO LOOK FOR THAT ON DECEMBER 14TH. ALSO COMING UP IS OUR MARYSVILLE WINTER WONDERLAND, WHICH IS SUNDAY, DECEMBER 29TH FROM 2 TO 9 P.M. EXPERIENCE ICE SKATING ON THE MARION MAIN RINK. BOUNCE HOUSES, MAGICAL TRAIN RIDES. VISITORS CAN EXPLORE UPTOWN MERCHANTS FOR UNIQUE GIFTS AND GOODIES, AND INDULGE IN DELICIOUS FOOD AT THE UPTOWN EATERY. SO THIS IS THE MARYSVILLE WINTER WONDERLAND ON SUNDAY, DECEMBER 29TH FROM 2 TO 9 P.M. ANOTHER REMINDER I'VE SAID THIS AT THE LAST COUPLE MEETINGS, BUT VISITS WITH SANTA ARE COMING UP AND I'M GOING TO SWITCH HERE A LITTLE BIT. I'M GOING TO GIVE WE. WE HAD STATED PREVIOUSLY THAT SANTA'S FIRST VISIT AT PARTNERS PARK WOULD BE THURSDAY, DECEMBER 12TH. WELL, IT WILL NOW BE THIS THURSDAY, DECEMBER 5TH FROM SEVEN AND FROM 5 TO 7 P.M. SO THAT'S BEEN ADDED. SO THIS THURSDAY, 5 TO 7 P.M. AND THEN THURSDAY, DECEMBER 12TH. AND THEN IT WILL BE SATURDAY, DECEMBER 14TH FROM 12 TO 2. THURSDAY, DECEMBER 19TH FROM 5 TO 7. THIS IS ALL ONLINE.

YOU CAN FOLLOW IT. BUT WE HAVE SIX OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO VISIT SANTA'S AT PARTNERS PARK DURING THE SEASON HERE. OF COURSE, OUR MARION MAIN ICE SKATING WILL BE TAKING PLACE.

THE ICELESS ICE SKATING HERE IN THE PARK AT PARTNERS PARK STARTING DECEMBER 12TH AND RUNNING THROUGH JANUARY 5TH, FIFTH AND SKATING IS FREE TO THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS OF ALL AGES. AND BEFORE I SHIFTED DOWN TO MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, I JUST WANTED TO THANK. IT WAS A VERY NEAT EVENT TONIGHT AND IT'S ALWAYS AWESOME TO WATCH. MARYSVILLE LIT UP LIKE IT WAS TONIGHT AND EXACTLY WHAT WE DID TO LIGHT UP OUR CHRISTMAS TREE UPTOWN WAS BUSTLING. IT WAS AWESOME. AWESOME TO SEE THE ACTIVITY. AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK. A LOT OF WORK GOES INTO SHUTTING DOWN THE STREETS AND WORKING THIS WE CLOSE THE STREETS AT ABOUT 3:00 TODAY.

WE'LL GET THEM BACK OPEN QUICKLY AFTER THE EVENT. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR ALL THEIR WORK. AND BECAUSE IT'S A COORDINATED EFFORT OF EVERYBODY FOR GETTING IT ALL SET UP AND READY TO ROLL IN A SAFE WAY. SO WITH THAT, I'LL, I'LL SHIFT DOWN TO JEREMY ON MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. YEAH. THANK YOU. TERRY. CITY STREET CREWS CONTINUE PARTICIPATING IN COMPLETING CITY WIDE LEAF REMOVAL AND MINOR CLEANUP. HAS HAS BEGUN AT THE MARYSVILLE STEEL SITE. FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, CITY CREWS HAVE COMPLETED YOUNG TREE TRIMMING AND HAVE STARTED OUR NEW TREE CARE PROGRAM. AND FINALLY, OUR WATER CREWS CONTINUE INSTALLING THE PARK AVENUE WATER LINE AS PART OF THAT REPLACEMENT PROJECT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ASHLEY FOR SOME UPDATES FROM ENGINEERING. GOOD EVENING. SO WE HAVE A COUPLE UPDATES ON OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. WE HAVE STATE ROUTE 31, PHASE THREE THAT WORK IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING ON THE NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND THAT WILL CONTINUE. WE HAVE THE RESERVOIR CONNECTOR TRAIL PHASE TWO, WHICH IS CURRENTLY OUT TO BID, AND THAT BID OPENING WILL BE DECEMBER 20TH. WE ALSO HAVE THE COLEMAN'S CROSSING AND INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY ROUNDABOUT,

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WHICH WE ARE ADVERTISING FOR BIDS, AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT BID OPENING BEING IN JANUARY. THEY ARE STILL CONTINUING TO COORDINATE UTILITIES ON THAT PROJECT AS WELL. AND OUR LAST PROJECT IS US 42 AND INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY WATER LINE. WE ARE ADVERTISING FOR BIDS ON THAT, WHICH WILL ALSO OPEN IN JANUARY. AND THAT'S IT. THAT CONCLUDES OUR ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT.

UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL QUESTIONS FOR ADMINISTRATION. I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION. SEE THE SHOP WITH A HERO. HOW DO HOW DOES A CHILD GO ABOUT HOW DOES A PARENT GO ABOUT REGISTERING THEIR CHILD OR WHAT DO THEY JUST SHOW UP? CHIEF HOW'S THAT? HOW'S THAT? SO WE GET THE NAMES OF THE CHILDREN TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM THROUGH MARYSVILLE SCHOOLS.

THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, THEY IDENTIFY THOSE WHO WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE FROM THE PROGRAM. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR ASKING. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. HEARING NONE. REPORT OF

[REPORT OF CLERK OF COUNCIL]

CORPORATE COUNSEL. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO WANTED TO REMIND COUNCIL AND ANYONE WHO USES MICROPHONES OR THE PODIUMS TO REMEMBER TO TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONES AND TO SPEAK INTO THEM WHEN YOU'RE TALKING. WE'VE HAD SOME LONGER MEETINGS. I THINK WE SIT BACK IN OUR CHAIRS.

AND IF YOU CAN BE HEARD IN THE ROOM, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN BE HEARD ONLINE. SO JUST MAKING SURE TO REMEMBER TO SPEAK INTO YOUR MICS. THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU. REPORT OF ECONOMIC

[REPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT]

DEVELOPMENT. GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. TONIGHT, A COUPLE OF PRESENTATIONS. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE DOCTOR RICK SMITH FROM OHIO HIGH POINT. HE'S A SUPERINTENDENT SCOTT BENNETT, WHO'S THE PRINCIPAL OF EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL. AND THE SECOND WILL GIVE AN UBER UPDATE. BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, BEFORE I ALLOW RICK AND TO PRESENT TONIGHT TO YOU ABOUT THE GREAT PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE. WE HAVE AWESOME SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT SUPPORT OUR WORKFORCE, OUR TALENT GOING FORWARD, AND OUR PARTNERSHIP. AND THE RELATIONSHIP IS SO STRONG WITH WITH OHIO HIGH POINT AND WITH THE MARYSVILLE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

BUT THEY'RE DOING SOME REALLY NEAT THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, THAT ARE REALLY COOL FOR OUR KIDS AND OUR STUDENTS OPPORTUNITIES. WE DID NOT HAVE. AT LEAST I DIDN'T BECAUSE I'M OLD, DID NOT HAVE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. BUT WITH INTERNSHIPS AND THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMING, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO TONIGHT IS JUST TO INTRODUCE YOU TO SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT THE EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL, AS WELL AS THE OHIO HIGH POINT ARE DOING FOR OUR STUDENTS AND OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS TODAY. SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO RICK. WELL THANK YOU. IT'S GOOD TO SEE SOME FRIENDS THAT I KNOW, MR. VERDE AND MR. AND MRS. ROUSH. YOU KNOW, WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER BEFORE ON MANY COMMITTEES IN THE COUNTY AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND SOME NEW FACES THAT I'M JUST LEARNING. GLAD TO BE HERE TONIGHT. YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE NEWEST ADDITION OF PART OF OUR $34 MILLION RENOVATION OF OHIO HIGH POINT THAT WE DID ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO. SO IT'S NOW ABOUT THREE YEARS OLD, AND WE'LL JUST GO TO THAT NEXT SLIDE. AND SO WE SERVE 14 DISTRICTS AND FIVE DIFFERENT COUNTIES. AND WE SERVE 700 STUDENTS ON OUR MAIN CAMPUS. AND ABOUT 4500 STUDENTS IN OUR SATELLITE PROGRAMS. AND WE'RE REALLY GOING TO TALK A LOT TONIGHT ABOUT THE SATELLITE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY HERE IN THE MARYSVILLE SCHOOL DISTRICT. BUT WE HAVE EVERYTHING ON OUR MAIN CAMPUS, FROM AUTOMOTIVE TO CONSTRUCTION TRADES TO HVAC TO COSMETOLOGY TO CYBER SECURITY. SOME OF THOSE TYPE OF FIELDS THAT WE HAVE UP THERE ON CAMPUS.

BUT I REALLY WANT TO KIND OF EMPHASIZE WHAT WE HAVE HERE DIRECTLY IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. A FEW HUNDRED STUDENTS HERE IN DIFFERENT PATHWAYS. GOOD. NEXT SLIDE. AND I'M SCOTT BENNETT, I'M THE NEW PRINCIPAL THERE AT HS. IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU GUYS. SO I GET TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHAT THIS HIGH POINT PARTNERSHIP LOOKS LIKE IN HS AND MARYSVILLE SCHOOLS. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, A COUPLE OF THE DIFFERENT PATHWAYS THAT WE OFFER. I CAN TALK ABOUT EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUALLY, BUT THE ONES I KNOW THE BEST RIGHT NOW OBVIOUSLY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE AT THE EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL. WE'VE GOT THE ALLIED HEALTH AND NURSING. WE'VE GOT THE AUTOMOTIVE TECHNOLOGY, THE ENGINEERING AND THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. I THINK I'M ONE OF THE SLIDES. A LITTLE BIT LATER, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH ABOUT THOSE. AT BUNCEFIELD, WE HAVE A FEW PROGRAMS THAT LEAD INTO THOSE.

OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT THE AGRIBUSINESS AND PRODUCTION SYSTEMS, CAREER CONNECTIONS AND MEDICAL DETECTIVES. AND THEN AT MBS, WE'VE GOT THE AGRIBUSINESS AND PRODUCTION SYSTEMS, AUTOMOTIVE TECHNOLOGY, WHICH WE SHARE BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS, MEDIA ARTS, PERFORMING ARTS AND SUPPLY CHAIN MANAGEMENT. SO THOSE BLACK NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE ARE STUDENT ENROLLMENTS, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE DIRECTLY THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT WERE IMPACTING HERE IN AG AND MEDICAL DETECTIVES AND CAREER CONNECTIONS AT OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL PROGRAM. HERE AT THE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, WE ALSO HAVE AG BUSINESS. WE HAVE AUTOMOTIVE TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE DO OVER AT EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL. BUT KIDS FROM THE MAIN BUILDING GET TO COME OVER. WE HAVE A MEDIA ART PROGRAM. WE HAVE SUPPLY CHAIN MANAGEMENT AND PERFORMING ARTS. AND ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN

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SEE SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS ARE INTO THE HUNDREDS OF STUDENTS IN THE CLASS. AND THOSE GO BASICALLY NINE THROUGH 12. THEN AT HS OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS THERE. IF YOU'VE NEVER SEEN THE AUTOMOTIVE TECHNOLOGY LOCATION THERE AT HS, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME OVER AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT. IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. I WAS IN THERE THE OTHER DAY WATCHING SOME KIDS CHANGE OUT A TRANSMISSION. SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING SOME SOME PRETTY IMPRESSIVE THINGS IN THERE. OUR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY ONE IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO START TO GROW I THINK A LITTLE BIT. WE'VE GOT SOME SOME COOL THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING ALONG WITH THAT. DOING A LITTLE BIT OF AVIATION AND CYBERSECURITY AS WELL WITH THAT INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY PIECE. THE OTHER BIG ONE FOR US ARE THESE WORK BASED LEARNING PROGRAMS, RIGHT. SO BEING ABLE TO GET KIDS OUT INTO INTERNSHIPS AND GET THEM PLACED OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY, AND THIS IS REALLY WHERE YOU START TO SEE THAT NEXUS OF THE SCHOOL WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE BUSINESSES. SO WE HAVE A WE'VE GOT 66 STUDENTS PLACED SO FAR THIS YEAR. THAT'S JUST FOR FIRST SEMESTER. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY HAVING QUITE A FEW MORE HERE SECOND SEMESTER, GETTING THEM OUT, DOING SOME AUTHENTIC LEARNING IN A WORKPLACE ENVIRONMENT, USING THOSE SKILLS THAT THEY'RE GAINING THROUGH HIGH POINT AND IN HS TO ACTUALLY GO OUT AND START TO BEGIN TO DO SOME OF THESE CAREERS. SO LAST YEAR, WHAT YOU'LL KIND OF YEAH, YOU CAN GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE ON THE ON THE WORK BASE. WE HAD A SECOND PERSON. SO WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE HERE DOING JOB PLACEMENT FOR THIS COUNTY AND FOR THIS AREA. SO WE HAVE ONE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL. WE ALSO HAVE ONE AT EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL TRYING TO GET THE STUDENTS 250 WORK HOURS. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE A PROGRAM THAT YOU SEE UP THERE, WE'VE PLACED KIDS. SO WE'VE HAD STUDENTS GO TO WEEKS PLUMBING AND BE PLACED. WE'VE HAD KIDS IN CONSTRUCTION. AND SO WE DON'T HAVE SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS DIRECTLY. AND PART OF THE ISSUE IS SOME OF THE INTEREST. YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST 80 TO 100 STUDENTS REALLY INTERESTED IN THOSE PROGRAMS FOR IT TO BE COST EFFECTIVE TO RUN A PROGRAM LIKE THAT. SO WHERE WE HAVE HIGH INTEREST IN OUR HEALTH CARE, THOSE PROGRAMS ARE TYPICALLY FULL, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE DON'T HAVE HIGH INTEREST ACTUALLY IN IT. AND THE DATA I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A FEW MINUTES KIND OF EVEN SHOWS THAT AS THOUGH WE HAVE DIGITAL NATIVE TYPE STUDENTS, BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN GOING INTO IT. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE INFLUENCE THAT AND HOW DO WE MAKE CHANGES TO THAT. BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING INTO WHETHER IT'S INTEL COMING TO THE AREA AND THE EXTRA SEMICONDUCTORS THAT WANT TO COME IN THIS REGION TYPE THINGS, OR IT'S THE AI OR WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH HONDA AND THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF MANUFACTURING ALL HAVE A LOT OF IT BUILT INTO IT. BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO GET STUDENTS TO BE INTERESTED IN THAT, TO GET THEM TO BE A PART OF THAT. AND SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE STRUGGLES THAT WE TYPICALLY SEE RIGHT NOW IS PEOPLE THINK MAYBE, WELL, IF PARENTS JUST TALK TO THEM, THEY'LL BECOME INTERESTED.

WE NEED TO GET IT DOWN TO THE PARENTS. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOUR KIDS ARE LISTENING TO THE PARENTS, BUT MY KIDS ALL WENT AND DID THEIR OWN THING. I GOT THREE OF THEM. NONE OF THEM PICKED WHAT DAD TOLD THEM TO DO, YOU KNOW? AND SO THEY'RE BECOMING MORE INDEPENDENT. SO WE ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND TEENS, TEEN PSYCHOLOGY AS WE GO INTO WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S A BIG PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AT OHIO. HIGH POINT IS FIND THE ENGAGEMENT AND THE INTEREST AND THE HANDS ON AND THE ABILITY. AND SO WE DO WORK VERY WELL WITH OUR PARTNERS, FROM FROM THE PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT TO THE PEOPLE AT THE CHAMBER TO HERE AS EDUCATIONAL ENTITIES. IT'S ALL OF US WORKING TOGETHER TO TRY TO COME UP WITH IDEAS AND PARTNERSHIPS THAT WILL MAKE IT. I WILL SAY ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IS GETTING MORE BUSINESSES TO ALLOW STUDENTS UNDER THE AGE OF 18 TO COME WORK WITH THEM, BECAUSE EVERY ONE OF THESE STUDENTS HAVE OPTIONS, AND SO THEY HAVE MULTIPLE CHOICES RIGHT NOW FOR WHERE THEY WANT TO GO. AND SO WHAT WE NEED ARE BUSINESSES TO GIVE THEM THAT KIND OF, HEY, LOOK HOW COOL THIS CAREER FIELD CAN BE. LOOK HOW THIS CAN BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, FAMILY ORIENTED CAREER FIELD THAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE FOR YOU. AND SO WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO FIND MORE AND MORE WHO WILL LET US COME IN AND PLACE STUDENTS INSIDE. CAREER EXPLORATION IS ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. AND ONCE AGAIN, I HAVE A SHEET THAT'S COLOR CODED WHERE WE'RE IN MARYSVILLE AND ALL 14 OF OUR DISTRICTS, AND WE NOW HAVE KITS FROM HONDA TO AUTOMOTIVE TO IT TO AGRICULTURE TO HEALTH CARE, TO SO WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING THINGS WITH SECOND GRADERS AND KINDERGARTNERS AND FIFTH GRADERS AND SIXTH GRADERS, EXPOSING THEM TO THE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CAREER FIELDS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND TRYING TO SHOW THEM WHAT THEIR POTENTIAL POSSIBILITIES AND THINGS THAT WE DO. AND THE OTHER PART OF WHAT WE USE IS WE USE YOUTH SCIENCE. IT WAS ACTUALLY STARTED BY ERIC.

HE BROUGHT YOUTH SCIENCE TO US AS A COUNTY, AND THE CHAMBER PUT FORTH SOME OF THE MONEY AND STARTED IT WITH SCHOOLS KIND OF MATCHING THE IDEA THEY PURCHASED THE FIRST YEAR OR TWO. NOW HOW HIGH POINT WITH CAREER AWARENESS DOLLARS FROM THE STATE PURCHASE IT FOR ALL 14 OF OUR DISTRICTS FOR EIGHTH GRADERS AND 10TH GRADERS. AND I JUST WANT TO SHARE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THAT YOUTH SCIENCE DATA WITH YOU. WE LOOK FOR ALIGNMENT. YOUTH SCIENCE DOES AN APTITUDE TEST AND AN INTEREST TEST OKAY. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO BLEND THE TWO. WHERE DO WE HAVE THE APTITUDE AND THE INTEREST TO KIND OF MATCH. AND SO THE HIGHEST RIGHT NOW IN MARYSVILLE

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FROM THE STUDENTS THAT WE SEE IS IN AG HEALTH SCIENCES, ARCHITECTURE, CONSTRUCTION LAW AND PUBLIC SAFETY. THAT'S WHERE THEY KIND OF ARE IN ALIGNMENT, WHERE THEY'RE NOT IN ALIGNMENT, BUT WHERE WE HAVE HIGH NEEDS IS WE HAVE APTITUDE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY INTEREST IN IT.

MANUFACTURING AND FINANCE. THOSE ARE THE LOWEST THREE. AND THE APTITUDE OF YOUR CURRENT SOPHOMORES GOING TO MARYSVILLE RIGHT NOW. AND SO WE LOOK AT THIS DATA WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT'S THE NEXT PROGRAM THAT WE HAD. AND SO HERE AT HIGH POINT WE HAVE A FIVE YEAR FORECAST. AND WE'VE PLACED PROGRAMS IN THERE. WE'VE TALKED TO SCOTT ABOUT CONSTRUCTION.

WE'VE TALKED TO SCOTT ABOUT HOW BECAUSE THE LEVY WENT DOWN THEY CAN'T DO THE SAME THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO WITH THE GRANT. BUT HOW DO WE TAKE THE GRANT THAT THEY GOT FOR DRONES AND BRING THAT INTO OUR IT DEPARTMENT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? SO WE'RE EXPLORING HOW WE DO THOSE IDEAS BECAUSE WE HAVE A DRONE PROGRAM CURRENTLY AT OHIO HIGH POINT. SO IF WE CAN PUT SOME INTEREST IN FRESHMEN AND SOPHOMORES AND DRONES HERE, THEN MAYBE THEY'LL EVEN COME UP TO OHIO HIGH POINT AND DO THE FULL LAST TWO YEAR PROGRAM AND GET CERTAIN CERTIFICATIONS IN THOSE FIELDS.

SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE BUILT OUR SATELLITE PROGRAM TO GIVE A LOT OF EXPOSURE. BUT IF YOU NEED TO DO A HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND WHAT YOU'VE LEARNED HERE AND MAYBE YOUR AG CLASS WANT TO DO SOMETHING IN DIESEL MECHANICS, THEN COME TO HIGH POINT AND DO IT ON MAIN CAMPUS IN DIESEL MECHANICS. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE STRUCTURE OF HOW WE I THINK THE LAST OF THE QUESTIONS THAT JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU SOME GENERAL DATA. WE HAVE A FIVE YEAR VISION PLAN FOR 2030. AND SO THAT WE SET OUT AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE BLOWN THINGS LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS WAS WE SET OUR GOAL TO ONLY EARN ABOUT A HALF $1 MILLION IN WORK BASED LEARNING. AND LAST YEAR, WE HIT 859,000.

SO OUR NEW GOAL IS A MILLION BUCKS OF STUDENTS BEING PLACED OUT IN THE WORKFORCE. THAT MONEY IS BEING EARNED. THAT'S TAXES BEING RAISED RIGHT HERE. YOU KNOW, WHEREVER THOSE STUDENTS ARE WORKING, THAT THAT'S THAT'S STUDENTS IN THE WORK FIELD. SO WE GET COLLEGE CREDIT. PLUS WE HAVE A LOT OF COLLEGE CREDIT AT THE EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL. AND SO WE HAVE IT ALL. SO ON OUR MAIN CAMPUS AND MANY OF OUR SATELLITE PROGRAMS ACROSS OUR 14 DISTRICTS HAVE THAT COLLEGE OPPORTUNITY AS WELL. SO CAREERTECH IS NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE OR WHAT YOU THOUGHT IT WAS WHEN YOU WENT TO SCHOOL. IT IS WAY DIFFERENT TODAY AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE PROVIDE MARYSVILLE STUDENTS. IT'S GOT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? NO, I THINK THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT HE WAS SAYING ABOUT THE YOUTH SCIENCE DATA, I THINK WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO WITH THAT YOUTH SCIENCE DATA NOW IS REALLY START TO DO SOME REALLY TARGETED RECRUITMENT OF STUDENTS INTO THOSE AREAS, RIGHT? SO IT IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT, WHERE WE KNOW WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 90 KIDS RIGHT NOW IN OUR IT PATHWAY. BUT IN THE EIGHTH GRADE, WE SEE WE SAW ABOUT 120 KIDS WHO HAD A SOLID APTITUDE FOR IT. SO WE WENT OUT AND MET DIRECTLY WITH THOSE 120 KIDS TO START TO RECRUIT THEM. AND HOPEFULLY BRING THEM INTO IT. WE KNOW IT'S A GROWING CAREER FIELD IN CENTRAL OHIO. IT'S AN AREA WHERE WE WANT OUR STUDENTS TO BE EXCITED AND INTERESTED IN BEING IN. WE KNOW THEY'VE GOT THE APTITUDE. IT'S UP TO US NOW TO HELP TO BUILD THAT INTEREST FOR THEM. I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE IS A QUESTION. ANY QUESTIONS? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO. GO AHEAD. OKAY. WELL FIRST OFF I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT. WE SAW EACH OTHER OVER AT THE TEN YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF HONDA AND WE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT VOCATION. YEAH, BECAUSE IT ON YOUR PART. YEAH. YOU'VE GONE THROUGH ALL OF THIS. IT MUST HAVE BEEN FRUSTRATED TO SEE ALMOST TWO GENERATIONS. YEAH. WHEREBY THE YOUNG PEOPLE WERE ALL TOLD THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE, YOU DON'T REALLY AMOUNT TO A WHOLE LOT. YEAH. AND THEN COMING BACK AGAIN TO WHAT YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED OVER THE YEARS. YEAH. AND THE COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE THAT REALLY STOOD OUT IN MY MIND. YEAH. IS THAT FIRST OF ALL, YEAH. FOR YOU MENTIONED THAT FOR EVERY FIVE CRAFTSMEN THAT RETIRE. YEAH.

THIS WHETHER THIS WOULD BE A PLUMBER, WHETHER THIS WOULD BE AN ELECTRICIAN, HOW MANY ARE COMING BACK INTO IT. ONE. ONE. YEAH. SO FOR EVERY FIVE RETIRING THERE'S ONLY ONE COMING IN. SO WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE PROBLEMS AT SOME POINT IN TIME. YEAH. THE OTHER THING IS THE SOME OF THE SUCCESS STORIES, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE YOUNG MAN BY THE NAME OF MATT, WHO GRADUATED IN YOUR DIESEL PROGRAM. YEAH. HE WAS ABLE EVEN AT AGE 18, TO MOVE ON TO NAPERVILLE, WHERE FOR 14 MONTHS HE WENT TO DIESEL SCHOOL. THEN HE WENT TO FOR 12 WEEKS TO PETERBILT. AND HE HAS NOW WORKED A NUMBER OF YEARS FOR PETERBILT AND PETERBILT IS NOW PAYING HIS TUITION FOR GOING TO THE DIESEL SCHOOL. AND HERE YOU HAVE A 22, MAYBE 23 YEAR OLD YOUNG MANTHATS IN, HE'S THE ONE THAT IDENTIFIES THE PROBLEM, TELLS THE 40, 50, 60 YEAR OLDS, YEAH. THIS IS THIS

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IS THE PROBLEM WITH A TRUCK. AND THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO REPLACE. YEAH. AND THAT IS WHAT YOUR SCHOOL HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO. AND IT'S PUTTING HIM ON A ON A, ON AN EXCEPTIONAL CAREER PATH. I THINK WHAT WE SEE NOW IS REALLY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CAREERS AND CAREERS HAVE EDUCATION ALL ALONG THE WAY. THERE'S ONBOARDING, OFFBOARDING. THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF PATHS, WHETHER YOU YOU KNOW, I WAS FIRST IN THE MILITARY, YOU KNOW, I DID EIGHT AND A HALF YEARS IN THE AIR FORCE BEFORE I EVER GOT MY SECOND DEGREE IN EDUCATION. I HAD MY FIRST DEGREE AS AN ASSOCIATE'S IN THE AIR FORCE. AND SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET THERE NOW.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE TAKE THAT GAP YEAR. YOU HAVE A LOT OF HIGH SCHOOL KIDS THAT WANT TO GO AWAY AND LEARN THEMSELVES FOR A YEAR BEFORE THEY EVER START A CAREER OR COLLEGE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS. BUT I DO THINK CAREER EDUCATION PROVIDES THEM A WAY TO WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH SCHOOL TO REDUCE THAT COLLEGE DEBT, TO HAVE COMPANIES PAY FOR THEM TO GO ON TO SCHOOL ONCE THEY GET DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS. BUT ONCE AGAIN, WE ALSO OFFER A LOT OF COLLEGE CREDIT PLUS AND ABOUT 80% OF SCOTT STUDENTS WILL GO TO COLLEGE FIRST. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FIVE PROGRAMS IN THAT THAT ARE KIND OF COLLEGE BOUND TYPE PROGRAMS, ENGINEERING AND NURSING AND HEALTH CARE AND BECOMING DOCTORS AND THINGS. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DEGREE TO DO THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S UNDERSTANDING WHAT STUDENTS WANT TO DO WITH THEIR PASSION AND THEIR CAREER. AND HOW DO YOU GET THEM TO GO THROUGH THE BEST PATHWAY TO GET THERE, EVEN FOR THOSE STUDENTS WHO ARE GOING ON TO COLLEGE FIRST, THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF JOB WHILE YOU'RE IN COLLEGE IS HUGE, RIGHT? SO WHAT YOU GUYS DID WHEN YOU WERE IN COLLEGE? WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE, I WATCHED I WATCHED POTS AND PANS IN THE IN THE BAKERY.

RIGHT. AND IT WAS AWFUL. I HATED IT. NOW THESE KIDS CAN GO IN AND ACTUALLY WORK IN THEIR IT DEPARTMENT. THEY CAN GO IN AND WORK IN THEIR CLINIC, THEIR SCHOOL'S CLINIC. RIGHT. AND THEN THEY HAVE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT WORK EXPERIENCE. EVEN IF THEY DO DECIDE TO GO ON TO COLLEGE FIRST, THEY CAN BE AN STNA AND THEN BECOME AN LPN AND WORK THEIR WAY IN THAT HEALTH CARE FIELD TO GET MORE EXPERIENCE. YEAH, OUR LEADING ISSUE, I WOULD SAY RIGHT NOW FOR CAREERTECH EDUCATION IS FINDING TEACHERS. OKAY. IT'S EXTREMELY HARD TO FIND PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE AUTOMOTIVE FIELD MAKING SIX FIGURES, OR AN ENGINEER WHO'S MAKING MORE THAN SIX FIGURES, OR A NURSE AS AN RN IS NOW MAKING, YOU KNOW, SIX FIGURES. SO AN IT PERSON IN CYBERSECURITY, WHAT ARE THEY MAKING IN CYBER SECURITY TO COME DOWN AND BE A TEACHER FOR 50, $60,000 TO TEACH THE NEXT GENERATION OF STUDENTS? THAT IS THE GREATEST CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE SEEING, RIGHT NOW IS THE LACK OF PEOPLE TO FIND, TO EDUCATE THE NEXT GENERATION. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO. AND IT'S REALLY GLAD TO HAVE YOU OUT HERE TONIGHT. WE APPRECIATE WE APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP. LIKE I SAID, WHOEVER IT IS AND YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS IN SCHOOLS OR TAXES OR ALL THE TYPES OF THINGS, WE'RE ALWAYS HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH ERIC AND THE INDIVIDUALS AROUND THIS COMMUNITY TO TRY TO DO WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF EVERYBODY IN THE FUTURE GENERATION OF WORKFORCE HERE IN THE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANKS. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? NO.

THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SAYING THAT WHEN YOU SEND SOMEBODY A LOT OF YOU PROBABLY HEARD ME SAY THIS. GLENN IRWIN WAS COUNTY COMMISSIONER AT THE TIME. HONDA LOCATED HERE. AND HE SAID, IN OHIO, WE KNOW HOW TO GROW CORN, BEAN AND CARS. AND IN UNION COUNTY ACTUALLY SAID THAT.

BUT IT'S TRUE FOR OHIO. AND WHAT'S REALLY, REALLY COOL, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. 12 YEARS AGO, WHEN THEN GOVERNOR KASICH DECIDED THAT HE STARTED THE STRAIGHT EDGE PROGRAM, WHICH ACTUALLY WAS $12 MILLION TO MARYSVILLE SCHOOLS TO DO THE EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL. HE ALSO REFOCUSED OUR EFFORTS ON CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION. AND THINGS HAVE CHANGED. AND THIS WASN'T HAPPENING 12 YEARS AGO. SO THIS WORK, I MEAN, YOU COULD PROBABLY COUNT ON YOUR FINGERS, RICK. PROBABLY ON ON ALL YOUR FINGERS. AND BASICALLY HOW MANY STUDENTS WERE IN THESE PROGRAMS THAT THEY'RE DOING NOW. SO WE'RE WE'RE BLESSED TO HAVE THAT LEADERSHIP MAKING THINGS HAPPEN.

AND I WILL SAY SOMETHING ELSE. WHEN WE BRING A COMPANY IN, WE TRY TO TAKE THEM TO THE EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL. WE WANT TO SHOW THEM WHAT THESE STUDENTS ARE DOING IN THAT SCHOOL, AND THEY ARE SO IMPRESSED. AND WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF THEM SAY THEY HAVE BETTER EQUIPMENT IN THAT FACILITY THAN WE HAVE IN OUR SHOP, AND THAT'S PRETTY COOL TO SAY, BUT WE THANK THEM FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP AS THEY CONTINUE TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN FOR OUR FOR OUR STUDENTS. SO THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH. NEXT, I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO AN JUST AN UPDATE ON THE RIDE SHARE PROGRAM THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. AND MCKENZIE, YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. I WANT TO SHOW SOME DATA.

SO FAR THERE HAVE BEEN 5700 RIDES SINCE JANUARY OF LAST YEAR. SO WE'RE ALMOST THROUGH.

THIS IS THROUGH NOVEMBER. THERE ARE 149 UNIQUE RIDERS OR USERS IN OCTOBER 22ND, WE DID REDUCE THE VOUCHER FROM 10 TO 5 TO CARRY THE PROGRAM LONGER. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE UPSET ABOUT THAT REDUCTION. THE AVERAGE RIDE WAS ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF BUCKS AND SO INSTEAD OF GIVING A TOTAL FREE RIDE, THEY NOW HAVE TO CHIP IN THREE AND A HALF DOLLARS. AND SO THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS AND WE TRY TO ANSWER THOSE CONCERNS. WE HAVE SPENT 48, $48,000 SINCE JANUARY,

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ONE OF $76,000 THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. SO WE'RE EXTENDING THE PROGRAM AS AS LONG AS WE CAN AS WELL. SO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THESE ARE BASICALLY THE MONTHS. THESE ARE THE SPINS. NOW KEEP IN MIND OCTOBER IS WHEN WE LOWERED IT FROM 10 TO 5. AND YOU CAN SEE THE HIGH MONTH WAS IN SEPTEMBER.

YOU CAN SEE THE SPEND IS LOWER IN NOVEMBER BECAUSE AGAIN WE'RE ONLY DOING $5 PER RIDE VERSUS $10. THAT'S WHY THE SPEND IS LOWER IN NOVEMBER. THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS SHOWS YOU THE NUMBER OF THE TRIPS. AS YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY WERE ADD UP TO THE LEFT. YOU CAN SEE THE AVERAGE DISTANCE HERE AS WELL. THE AVERAGE DURATION. SO THE AVERAGE DISTANCE FOR EXAMPLE IT STARTED OUT A LITTLE BIT LONGER. BUT IT'S IN THE 2 TO 3 MILE RANGE. THE AVERAGE DURATION YOU CAN SEE SIX YOU KNOW 5 TO 6 MINUTES SEVEN. IT STARTED OUT AT TO BEGIN WITH. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE AVERAGE TRANSACTION AGAIN. THE AVERAGE WAS EIGHT AND A HALF BUCKS. NOW IT'S ONLY FIVE. IT'S PRETTY EVEN. IT'S FIVE BUCKS. IT'S HARD TO FIND AN UBER ANYWHERE FOR LESS THAN FIVE BUCKS. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE $5 AS THE AVERAGE THERE. SO THIS SHOWS YOU THE BASICALLY THE TRIPS PER MONTH AS YOU CAN SEE, SEPTEMBER WAS THE HIGHEST MONTH USAGE HAS GONE DOWN SINCE WE LOWERED IT A LITTLE BIT. BUT YOU CAN SEE BY MONTH THE USAGE AS WELL. THIS ACTUALLY THIS IS THE DAYS OF THE WEEK. YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW WE ORIGINALLY WHEN WE STARTED THIS, WE THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO BE NOT ONLY WE OUR FOCUS WAS MORE ON WORKFORCE. AND WE THOUGHT THAT THE RESTAURANT ASPECT OF THIS PROBABLY WOULD NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS PROBABLY A SIDE BENEFIT. BUT I THINK YOU'VE SEEN THE LOWERS ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY TELL YOU THAT THIS IS KIND OF A WEEKDAY TYPE OF USAGE, WHICH IS A GOOD SIGN TO SEE. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT SLIDE I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU TONIGHT. THIS SHOWS YOU THE BREAKDOWN BY HOUR.

AGAIN. THIS ALSO SHOWS YOU MOST OF THE RIDES ARE HAPPENING BETWEEN 6 A.M. AND YOU KNOW IN THAT 6 A.M. TO 5 P.M, THOSE WERE THE MOST OF THE RIDES. YOU HAVE SOME IN THE EVENING AS WELL, BUT A LOT OF THE RIDES WERE HAPPENING DURING THE DAY. AGAIN, WHAT DOES THAT SHOW YOU THAT SHOWS YOU THAT IT'S A WORKFORCE SHUTTLE OR AN APPOINTMENT SHUTTLE DURING THE DAY VERSUS A NIGHT USAGE AS WELL. AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SIGN WHEN YOU SEE THAT, WHEN YOU SEE THOSE STATS.

AND SO THIS IS A HEAT MAP. THERE ARE A LOT MORE DOTS ON THIS. BELIEVE ME. THERE'S ALMOST 6000 DOTS ON THIS. BUT I THINK THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS, YOU CAN SEE THE CONCENTRATION HERE WHERE A LOT IS HAPPENING. OF COURSE A LOT IS A LOT OF PICKUPS IN MARYSVILLE ON THE EAST SIDE AROUND THE HOTELS. BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEE THERE'S MANY MORE DOTS AROUND HONDA AND TRK. YOU CAN SEE SOME PICKUPS. THESE ARE PICKUP LOCATIONS THAT ACTUALLY WE WOULD SEE. AND AGAIN WE WERE INCENTIVIZING RIDERS TO BASICALLY BE PICKED UP IN THE MARYSVILLE AREA TO BE DROPPED OFF WITHIN THE MARYSVILLE AREA OR SOME LOCATION IN COLUMBUS PER SE. THAT'S THE THEORY. YOU CANNOT USE THIS BENEFIT COMING FROM COLUMBUS TO MARYSVILLE. THIS IS MEANT TO BE A SHUTTLE WITHIN, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE WITHIN THE MARYSVILLE AREA. AND, AND TO GET YOU TO COLUMBUS AS WELL. SO THAT'S THAT WAS THE FOCUS AS WELL. I THINK THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE. YES. SO WITH THAT I'LL ANSWER. I THINK OVERALL THE PROGRAM I THINK HAS WORKED PRETTY WELL. THE ONE STAT THAT I WISH WAS HIGHER AND THAT'S THE UNIQUE RIDER. SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF REPEAT USERS.

BUT AGAIN THEY'RE USING THIS FOR WORKFORCE. SO THAT'S A GOOD THING. BUT BUT AGAIN THIS IS KIND OF A PRIVATE SOLUTION TO MOBILITY. BUT IT'S YOU KNOW 6000 RIDES SINCE JANUARY I THINK IS PRETTY GOOD. WHEREAS AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE UBER PROVIDE US DATA FROM LAST YEAR, BUT WE WERE NOT PAYING THEM MONEY LAST YEAR, SO THEREFORE THEY WON'T SHARE THE DATA WHICH IS UNDER SANITARY. IT'S PROPRIETARY AND THAT'S THAT'S THEIR THEIR RIGHT. BUT BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU I'VE TRIED TO GET AN UBER IN MARYSVILLE AND IT'S NOT BEEN EASY. PRIOR TO THIS. AND IT'S MUCH EASIER TO GET AN UBER TODAY THAN IT WAS BACK THEN. SO BUT AGAIN, THAT'S SOME I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT DATA AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DATA. DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ERIC. YES, YOU MENTIONED THAT EARLIER PRIOR TO THIS YEAR, THE WORD UBER DRIVER, BUT THEY PREFERRED TO GO TO COLUMBUS BECAUSE THERE WERE MORE RIDES. YEAH. ARE YOU AT LIBERTY TO TELL US HOW MANY UBER DRIVERS DOES THIS PERTAIN TO AND HOW MANY DO WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY? WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION, BUT THEY WILL NOT SHARE THAT INFORMATION. NOW, I THINK IN TOWN, EVEN PRIOR THAT, YOU WOULD SEE CARS WITH A WITH UBER ON THEIR, ON THEIR DECALS ON THEIR CARS. I, YOU KNOW, I ASSUME THEY WOULD GO TO COLUMBUS BECAUSE THERE'S A HIGHER DEMAND THERE. THIS IS DEFINITELY CREATED DEMAND. SO I THINK MORE OF THEM ARE STAYING HERE. BUT WE DO NOT HAVE A NUMBER ON THAT. NOW, MY EXPERIENCE GETTING AN UBER RIDE. I'VE TRIED TO GO TO COLUMBUS BEFORE, BEFORE THIS PROGRAM. AND YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU WOULD WAIT 20 MINUTES AND THEN IT WOULD KEEP WORKING AND THEN THE DRIVER WOULD NOT BE COMING OUT AND YOU WOULD NEVER GET A RIDE. SO THAT WOULD HAPPEN ACTUALLY,

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THEY WOULD DROP YOU. THEY WOULDN'T COME ALL THE WAY OUT FROM MARY TO MARYSVILLE FROM LIKE DUBLIN FOR EXAMPLE. SO I THINK NOW YOU HAVE MORE DEMAND. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE DRIVERS HERE. AND USUALLY WHEN YOU GO ON YOUR APP NOW, YOU MAYBE SEE 1 TO 3 DRIVERS IN THE MARYSVILLE AREA. THEY MIGHT BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN HERE AND DUBLIN, OR THEY MIGHT BE IN THE MARYSVILLE AREA, WHICH IS WHICH IS A GOOD THING. BEFORE IT WAS HARD TO FIND AN UBER DRIVER IN TOWN, SO THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION

[PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION REPORT]

REPORT. YEAH, THIS WILL BE A QUICK ONE. SO WE DID NOT HAVE A PARKS AND REC MEETING LAST MONTH. THE NEXT ONE WILL BE ON DECEMBER 17TH AT 6 P.M. THANK YOU. HEARING OF CITIZENS. ANY CITIZEN HAS UP TO FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. NOT SEEING

[Res. A]

A MAD DASH MOVE ON TO RESOLUTIO. RESOLUTION A ONE READING ONLY TO DETERMINE THAT THE PETITION FOR THE CREATION OF THE MARYSVILLE SOUTHEAST NEW COMMUNITY AUTHORITY COMPLIES WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF OHIO REVISED CODE, SECTION THREE, 49.03, AND TO FIX THE TIME AND PLACE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE MARYSVILLE SOUTHEAST NEW COMMUNITY AUTHORITY ADMINISTRATION. I'LL DEFER TO THE LAW DIRECTOR TO GIVE KIND OF AN OVERVIEW ON WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. THIS IS A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT. THANK YOU. SORRY, KENZIE. THIS IS A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING HERE. THE PETITION WAS FILED WITH THE CLERK ON. NOVEMBER 15TH AND BETWEEN 30 AND 45 DAYS FROM THE FILING DATE. WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. AND THERE ALSO NOTICE REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE TO BE MET. SO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS TO BE DECEMBER 16TH. SO WE EXPECT THAT THE PETITION TO CREATE THIS COMMUNITY AUTHORITY, NEW COMMITTEE AUTHORITY WILL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE 16TH FOR FIRST READING. IT WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING. AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE A WE CAN ALSO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE SECOND READING AS WELL, BUT WE EXPECT IT TO BE TO BE ON. SO THIS RESOLUTION BASICALLY VALIDATES THE SUFFICIENCY OF THE PETITION THAT WAS FILED WITH THE CLERK. AND IT SETS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR DECEMBER 16TH. SO ONE READING, ONE READING RESOLUTION TO DO CITIZENS HAVE ANY COMMENTS? COUNCIL. MR. PRESIDENT, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION ROLL CALL. MR. YES. MR. BURBY YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REMES YES. MR. RAUCH YES. MR. BORDNER YES. SEVEN.

YES. LEGISLATION PASSES. RESOLUTION P ONE READING ONLY TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE

[Res. B]

ADMINISTRATION TO APPLY FOR STAFFING FOR ADEQUATE FIRE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE. SAFER GRANT ADMINISTRATION. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. REAL QUICK. WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO SUBMIT APPLICATIONS FOR ASSISTANCE IN FUNDING FIREFIGHTERS AND WE'VE WE SUBMITTED IN 2023. WE WEREN'T SUCCESSFUL. WE SUBMITTED IN 2024. WE WEREN'T SUCCESSFUL.

THERE'S AN INTEREST AGAIN. AND I'LL LET THE CHIEF TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE NEEDS. BUT THERE'S AN INTEREST RIGHT NOW. AND WE PRESENTED IT TO FINANCE COMMITTEE RECENTLY TO SUBMIT AGAIN FOR 2025. THE INTEREST WOULD BE TO SUBMIT FOR SIX FIREFIGHTERS AND WHAT THE SAFER GRANT DOES IS IT FUNDS FULLY FUNDS THE NEW FIREFIGHTERS FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD TO ALLOW YOU TO ESTABLISH, YOU KNOW, THE YOU KNOW, THE NEEDS OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS IN REGARDS TO FIREFIGHTERS IN THIS AREA. YOU KNOW, IN OUR PARTICULAR CASE, AS WE START LOOKING OUT INTO THE FUTURE AND SOME OF THE AREAS OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE GOING TO OCCUR, I THINK THIS OBVIOUSLY IS APPEALING TO US NOW, AS WE SUBMIT FOR THIS GRANT, THERE'S ALWAYS AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL AND WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE TO DECLINE AND MOVE ON. BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE BELIEVE IS PROBABLY WORTHWHILE. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, BUT THEY FELT STRONGLY ENOUGH ABOUT ALLOWING US TO BRING IT TONIGHT TO ALL

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SEVEN MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WITH THIS, WITH THIS REQUEST, CHIEF, DO YOU MIND TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE NEEDS? WHAT YOUR WORKFORCE PLANS HAVE BEEN AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT AND, AND WHERE THIS WOULD MEET THAT NEED? YEAH, DEFINITELY. THANK YOU. TERRY. SO IN 23 AND 24 THROUGH OUR STRATEGIC WORKFORCE PLAN, WE'VE HAD THREE ON THE ON THAT PLAN. EACH YEAR WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO BE FUNDED SO FAR. SO THIS ALLOWS TO MEET THOSE NEEDS, BRING THEM IN, YOU KNOW, SOONER GET THEM PAID FOR THAT, FOR THAT THREE YEARS, 100% OPERATIONAL WISE WHAT IT ALLOWS US TO DO IS STAFF THE STATION HERE. STATION 272 TO WHERE WE'LL HAVE TWO ALS MEDIC UNITS IN SERVICE. SO WHEN ONE IS OUT, WE CAN STILL BE ABLE TO RESPOND ON ANOTHER MEDICAL CALL WITHOUT HAVING TO PULL FROM THE OTHER STATION, WHICH INCREASES THAT RESPONSE TIME WHEN THAT HAS TO HAPPEN, ACTUALLY HAPPENED JUST DURING THE MEETING TONIGHT. SO IT DOES HAPPEN FREQUENTLY. AND IT WOULD ALLOW THAT STAFFING HERE TO BE AT THAT, THAT LEVEL TO WHERE WE CAN HANDLE MULTIPLE CALLS IN PROGRESS. WE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AGAIN, THIS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TONIGHT IS THE ABILITY TO SUBMIT FOR IT. WE HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL. WE'D LIKE THE ABILITY TO SUBMIT FOR IT AGAIN. AND THEN WE COULD ALWAYS, IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL, YOU KNOW, GET INTO SOME DETAILS OF TIMING OF WHEN THAT WOULD BE RECEIVED, HOW LONG WHEN WOULD THAT LAST? THROUGH THE TIME FRAMES AND THINGS START TO AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT DO CITIZENS HAVE ANY COMMENTS HEARING NONE COUNCIL. AND I'LL LET MR. BURBY SPEAK ON. SO WHEN THIS WAS BEFORE THE FINANCE COMMITTEE LAST WEEK, WE REALLY COULDN'T FIND A FULL JUSTIFICATION THAT THE THREE OF US WOULD DECIDE, THE THREE OF US THAT WE COULD DECIDE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. YEAH. BECAUSE EVEN TONIGHT WE HEARD TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. YEAH, WE HEARD THERE IS A POTENTIALLY UP TO SIX. YEAH. WE HAD MADE SAY MAYBE THREE. YEAH. SO ARE WE TALKING THREE, ARE WE TALKING SIX. THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS SHOULD IT BE AWARDED TO US THEN OBVIOUSLY WE ALMOST HAVE TO TAKE IT. I DON'T SEE THAT. IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL. YEAH. THAT WE THEN CAN SAY THAT.

NO, SORRY, BUT WE WANT TO BACK OFF. YEAH. SO ARE WE TALKING. THE FIRST QUESTION IS ARE WE TALKING 3 OR 6 PEOPLE THAT WE'RE GOING TO APPLY FOR. YEAH. IT WOULD BE REQUESTING TO APPLY FOR THE SIX. SO IT HELPS US WITH THE NFPA STANDARDS WHICH THEY WANT YOU. WHY THEY DO THIS GRANT IS TO OBVIOUSLY ALLOW FOR INCREASED STAFFING. SO APPARATUSES STAFF TO A CERTAIN LEVEL, WHICH IS THEY WANT TO TRY TO GET FOUR FIREFIGHTERS ON THE FIRE APPARATUS. SO SIX GETS US TO THAT NUMBER TO WHERE WE HAVE THAT NUMBER, WHICH IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE IN THE FIRE SERVICE TO HAVE THAT NUMBER. SO THAT'S WHY WE'D BE GOING FOR SIX OR REQUESTING TO BE ABLE TO GO FOR SIX IS BASED OFF SOME OF THE RESEARCH WE'VE DONE. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. WHEN APPLYING. OKAY. AND I CAN IMAGINE THAT 4 TO 6 WE ARE PROBABLY LOOKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF MAYBE 750, 800,000. I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THAT WOULD BE THE NUMBER. YEAH. THE OTHER PROBLEM THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY STILL HAVING TO CONSIDER, YEAH, IS ALSO THAT AND WE DID GET A WARNING FOR THE FROM THE MUNICIPALITY FOLKS THAT AGAIN BEFORE THE LEGISLATION IS THE POTENTIAL INCREASE OF THE FOP PENSION THAT THE CITY'S ALMOST NOW THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IT AGAIN FOR A WHILE IT WASN'T AN ISSUE. AND WE DO HAVE THAT ALSO HANGING OVER OUR HEAD AS A POTENTIAL OTHER EXPENDITURE THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WE AS A CITY ARE GOING TO ASK TO ADD MORE MONEY INTO THE PENSION, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS NOT THE FIRE, BUT THIS, THIS IS STILL IN THE SAFETY SERVICE. IF YOU WILL. YEAH. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT REALLY CONCERNED US IS HAVING, HAVING TO DO OR HAVING TO MAKE MONEY AVAILABLE FOR THE

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ADDITIONAL PENSION. IF WE DO, THE SIX AND THE THREE YEARS ARE OVER. YEAH. THEN IT IT BECOMES AN A COMMITTED EXPENSE PRETTY MUCH TO THE CITY. YEAH. SO AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE STRUGGLED WITH. AND AGAIN THERE IS ALMOST NO WAY BACK WHEN YOU DO SEND IN THE APPLICATION. AND WE DO GET IT THAT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. THE OTHER THING OF COURSE, THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER AT THIS POINT BETWEEN THE VARIOUS APARTMENTS AND THE HOUSING, WE PROBABLY ARE PUSHING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1500 AND 2000 ADDITIONAL DWELLINGS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE IN THE NEXT 2 OR 3 YEARS. YEAH, THEY THEY ARE TWO. THERE ARE 248 UNITS OVER AT THE OLD KROGER SITE. THE HOUSING ACROSS FROM BOND SOLD THE APARTMENTS NEXT TO WALMART. SO WHEN IS THE RIGHT TIME? YEAH.

AND THE THREE YEARS THAT WE HAVE TO BRIDGE BEFORE WE HAVE SOMETHING MORE CONCRETE. YEAH.

WITH REGARDS TO MAYBE AN ADDITIONAL FIRE STATION, DEPENDING ON HOW QUICKLY MARYSVILLE EAST IS MOVING FORWARD. SO AGAIN, THOSE WERE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION. AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE SENDING IT TO THE FULL COUNCIL. YEAH. RATHER THAN THE THREE OF US DECIDING ON THIS. YEAH. AND BASICALLY SAYING WHAT IS YOUR APPETITE FOR THIS. YEAH.

HOW DO YOU FEEL. IS IT IS NOW THE RIGHT TIME TO DO IT. SHOULD WE WAIT UNTIL WE ARE TOO EARLY? TOO LATE? SHOULD WE WAIT UNTIL WE HEAR WHAT OUR COST OF SAFETY SERVICES ARE GOING TO BE? YEAH.

AND THAT THAT'S WHAT I GUESS EACH OF US COUNCIL MEMBERS HAS TO DECIDE ON. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO ACTUALLY TAKE A VOTE ON IT TONIGHT OR MAYBE TABLE IT. YEAH. UNTIL TWO WEEKS FROM NOW SO THAT ALL OF US HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT AND THEN TAKE A VOTE.

TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. I MEAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS. I SUSPECT THAT WE CAN TAKE ON THIS ONE. IS YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. YOU KNOW, IT'S A TOUGH CALL RIGHT NOW. CITY COUNCIL'S PROBABLY GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET REQUESTS FOR ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. YOU'RE GOING TO GET THOSE REQUESTS AND BUT YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. IT'S A IT'S A TOUGH CALL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDST OF A LOT OF THINGS POSSIBLY HAPPENING. WHEN, WHEN DO YOU THINK THE FUNDING WOULD BE INITIATED. WOULD IT BE LATER NEXT YEAR OR WHAT TIME FRAME. SO YEAH, THE APPLICATION PERIOD SHOULD START. WE ANTICIPATE SOMETIME LATE DECEMBER, 1ST OF JANUARY AND THEN IT CLOSES USUALLY LATE SPRING. SO THEN THEY START AWARDING. SO IT'S SOMETIME SUMMER TO KIND OF LATE. FALL IS WHEN THEY MAKE THOSE SELECTIONS. IT'S NOT ALL AT ONCE. THEY'LL DO SO MANY AND THEN THEY'LL DO SO MANY LATER ON. SO WOULD THAT LIKELY START AROUND JANUARY 1ST OF 2026? THE FUNDING PORTIONS? YES. SO THERE IS A TIMELINE. YOU HAVE TO FILL WITHIN 180 DAYS OF BEING AWARDED. IS WHEN YOU DO HAVE TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS. SO IF YOU'RE SELECTED EARLY, THEN 180 DAYS, YOU KNOW, SO IT COULD BE A LITTLE SOONER. BUT THAT'S WHEN THE TIMELINE STARTS. SO PROBABLY IN THAT BALLPARK OF AROUND THE END OF NEXT YEAR OR EARLY IN IN 2026. SO THE FUNDING WOULD HELP US FOR 2026, 2027, 2028. AND WE'D PROBABLY BE IN A POSITION TO HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO START FUNDING IN 2029. SO THAT IS A POTENTIAL COMPROMISE. HOW WOULD IT BE IF YOU LOOK AT THREE INSTEAD OF SIX? IS THAT GOING TO BE NOT EFFECTIVE IN ANY WAY OR WHAT WHAT WHAT CAN YOU ADVISE US ON THAT ONE. YEAH, DEFINITELY. IT HELPS. YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT NEXT STEP, YOU KNOW, TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE. BUT FROM WHAT WE'RE BEING TOLD AND THE RESEARCH THAT WE'VE DONE ON THIS GRANT, THEY WANT TO SEE YOU AT THAT NFPA RECOMMENDED NUMBER ON THE TRUCKS. SO THREE MIGHT NOT YOU MIGHT NOT BE AWARDED IT WHERE SIX YOU MIGHT GET AWARDED BASED ON BECAUSE YOU'RE MEETING THAT THAT MINIMUM STANDARD ON ON THE APPARATUS STAFFING OKAY. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ULTIMATELY TRYING TO GET YOU AT THAT. THAT

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THAT'S WHERE IT ALL COMES DOWN TO. YEAH. YEAH. SO OKAY THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD AT FINANCE. SO I JUST WANTED TO RELAY THAT AS ACCURATE AS I COULD. SO YOU BRING YOU MENTIONED THE THIRD FIRE STATION. WE HAVEN'T HAD AN UPDATE FOR A WHILE. YOU KNOW WE'VE ALREADY GOT BOGEYS OUT THERE THAT AS THEY'RE BEING HIT IT IS GOING TO NECESSITATE US BUILDING ANOTHER FIRE STATION. AND I THINK WE'RE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE ON A LOT OF THOSE ALREADY.

SO MAYBE HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT TO SE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE FUTURE A LITTLE BIT. BUT AS MORE PLACES COME ONLINE AND AS ERIC FILLS UP INNOVATION PARK AND SOME OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROBABLY EXTRAPOLATE AND FIGURE OUT THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THIRD STATION IS GOING TO NEED TO BE BUILT WITHIN X NUMBER OF YEARS, AND WE'VE ALREADY GOT SIX MORE FIREFIGHTERS. SO I THINK MAYBE BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT, GET AN UPDATE ON ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH ALL THOSE DIFFERENT BOGEYS. WHAT DO YOU THINK? I MEAN, IT GIVES US YOU'RE JUST INTERESTED IN MEETING THE DEADLINE OF SUBMITTAL, CORRECT? YES. YEAH.

YEAH, YEAH. SO IF, IF WE NEEDED TWO MORE WEEKS, THAT'S TWO. YEAH. YEAH YEAH. YOU KNOW I, I THINK THE YOU KNOW, THE POINT IS IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE GRANT WE'RE COMMITTED. WE'RE COMMITTING TO BRINGING ON SIX MORE STAFF AND WE'LL BE FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR FUNDING THOSE IN THREE YEARS. SO, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK IT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION TO HAVE AND, AND TO TAKE AN EXTRA MEETING TO MAKE THAT DECISION, I THINK MAKES SENSE BECAUSE IT'S A LONG TERM COMMITMENT. OKAY. MR. PRESIDENT, I SAID ONE QUESTION. SO JUST PLEASE ENTERTAIN ME WITH YOUR KNOWLEDGE ON THIS. SO YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT WE'RE COMMITTED TO THAT SIX ADDITIONAL STAFF. SO IS THIS GRANT INTENDED TO BRIDGE MUNICIPALITIES FROM THE POINT OF NOT HAVING THE REQUIRED FUNDING TO GET THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER OF PERSONNEL IN PLACE TO THE. AND EVENTUALLY THE FUNDING WOULD BE THERE TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THAT PERSONNEL OR OR IS THERE LIKE ANOTHER ANGLE WHERE YOU COULD SAY IT'S INTENDED TO GET AN INTENDED NUMBER OF PERSONNEL, BUT NOT NECESSARILY MAINTAIN THAT IT'S INTENDED PART OF THE PART OF THE COMMITMENT IS TO BE ABLE TO BE IN A POSITION TO MAINTAIN IT, AND THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD NOT BE TO UTILIZE THOSE SIX PEOPLE FOR THREE YEARS. AND THEN THROUGH ATTRITION, I SUPPOSE, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT ATTRITION. IT'S MOTIVATED. IT'S TRYING TO GET A LONGER TERM GOAL OF NUMBERS BASED ON COMMUNITY NEEDS. OKAY. YEAH. THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THAT. BUT WE CAN BRING BACK INFORMATION IF, YOU KNOW, TRY TO TRY TO TIGHTEN UP SOME OF THOSE THINGS. OBVIOUSLY YOU GUYS ARE INVOLVED. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN WOULD WOULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARD THE NEED.

BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, YOU KNOW, THERE'S WE'RE WE'RE STILL WAITING A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT IN 2029, AS AS WE SIT HERE IN 2029, I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS WE'LL BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING A LOT DIFFERENT AT THAT POINT IN TIME. SO COULD WE HAVE BRAD FOR THE NEXT MEETING? SOME NUMBERS ALSO WITH WHAT THE ANTICIPATED IMPACT OF THE PENSION CHANGES MIGHT BE TO OUR BUDGET FOR THAT YEAR, 2029? YES. OKAY. I THINK THAT'D BE, YOU KNOW, A GOOD NUMBER TO HAVE. YES. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I GUESS, AND MAYBE THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED ALREADY. BUT IT'S KIND OF A WANT VERSUS NEED RIGHT NOW. WE KNOW THAT THERE'S POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, EXPANSION COMING OR NEEDS COMING. BUT I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION AS TO THE TIMING. I THINK THE WHEN IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE THAT GRANT FUNDING FOR THREE YEARS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, TO MR. BURKE AND MR. REAMS POINT TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FUND IT LONG TERM. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE REVENUES COMING IN TO SUPPORT THAT. AND RIGHT NOW I DON'T I DON'T SEE IT, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT WE HAVE TO ANSWER IS WANT VERSUS NEED. AND THEN LOOKING FORWARD IN IN TERMS OF PIPELINE AND THEN

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ALIGNING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE LATER IS THE RIGHT, RIGHT QUESTION OR THE RIGHT TIMING YEAR OR SO DOWN THE ROAD. SO I MOVE TO TABLE THIS TO OUR NEXT MEETING. OKAY. WOULD THAT END UP AS A ROLL CALL OKAY. ROLL CALL MR. BARBEE. YES. MR. BURGER? YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REMES YES. MR. RAUCH YES, YOUR BORDNER YES. MR. WOLF. YES. SEVEN. YES. TABLED UNTIL 1216. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON THAT. ORDINANCE A SECOND READING, PUBLIC HEARING TO DIRECT THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS

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TO SUBMIT TO THE TO THE ELECTORATE AT THE NEXT REGULAR MUNICIPAL ELECTION, A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE CHARTER, TO WIT TO AMEND ARTICLE FOUR LEGISLATION SECTION 4.02 INITIATIVE, REFERENDUM AND RECALL OF THE CHARTER FOR THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE TO ALLOW A REFERENDUM PETITION ON ANY ZONING OR ANNEXATION ORDINANCE TO BE FILED WITHIN 60 DAYS AFTER PASSAGE AND ANY SUCH ORDINANCE MAY NOT BE PASSED BY EMERGENCY ADMINISTRATION. KIM, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ON THIS? NO. NOTHING FURTHER. CITIZENS. STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR PUBLIC RECORD. PLEASE. BOB BAILEY LIVE AT 18550 RAYMOND ROAD. I RECOGNIZE, BASED ON THE MEETING LAST TIME, THAT COUNCIL DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANY OPTION EXCEPT TO GO AHEAD AND PASS THIS TO SEND IT ON THROUGH. HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST STATE THAT THIS IS PROBABLY NOT A GOOD IDEA THAT BASICALLY THIS WILL ACTUALLY TAKE LONGER THAN OTHER AREAS. THIS REFERENDUM PERIOD WILL, WHICH IS THEN GOING TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPERS TO ACTUALLY GO ELSEWHERE. THAT'S POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE TO THE ADJACENT TOWNSHIPS. AND THEN ONCE IT GOES OUT TO THE TOWNSHIPS, IT'S GOING TO FALL UNDER THEIR ZONING CODES, WHICH ARE NOT GOING TO BE AS STRICT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE REGULATIONS ON WHAT CAN AND CAN'T BE DONE. IF WE HAVE VINYL SIDING VERSUS HARDIPLANK AND ALL OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

AND THEN BY DOING SO, THEN ULTIMATELY YOU THINK YOU'RE GAINING CONTROL OVER IT, BUT IN REALITY YOU'RE GIVING IT UP BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE TOWNSHIP AND THEN ONCE THE DEVELOPMENT IS BUILT, THEN IT MAY BECOME ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, AND THEN YOU'RE STUCK WITH IT AND IT'S GOING TO BE THERE REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT IS. AT THAT POINT. SO AND I, I KNOW FOR CERTAIN BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ON OTHER PROJECTS AND THIS IS ALREADY HAPPENING. AND THAT WAS WHAT THE REFERENDUM PERIOD BEING 30 DAYS. SO ANYHOW, I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS THAT CONCERN WITH THIS GOING FORWARD. AND AS A SIDE NOTE, THIS IS COMPLETELY UNRELATED, BUT THE PICTURE OF THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS SITTING UP HERE IN FRONT OF THE COMPUTE, THAT WAS A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT THAT WAS SITTING IN OUR OFFICE WORKING ON A PROJECT THAT WE HAVE. SO JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT AS WELL. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. ANY OTHER CITIZENS WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK COUNCIL. YEAH. MR. PRESIDENT, IF I COULD I SAW THE I WAS NOT HERE AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, BUT I DID WATCH THE COUNCIL MEETING AND I GOT TO HEAR SOME COMMENTS REGARDING THIS AS IT CAME THROUGH FOR ITS FIRST READING. I THINK WHEN YOU ACTUALLY WHEN THERE MIGHT BE CONFUSION ABOUT THIS IN THE PUBLIC'S EYES BECAUSE I THINK THE COMMENT MIGHT HAVE BEEN MADE, WE HAVE TO RUBBER STAMP THIS AND REALLY WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON IS THAT THERE WAS A PETITION DELIVERED WITH SIGNATURES, AND THEY'VE BEEN DEEMED VALID. AND THE PROCESS IS TO NOW EVENTUALLY PUT THAT FORWARD TO THE VOTERS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON. AND IF I SAID THAT A SLIGHTLY INCORRECT, CORRECT ME, BUT ESSENTIALLY THAT'S IT. SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A RUBBER STAMP THAT WE AGREE WITH THIS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, OR ANY INDIVIDUAL AGREES OR DISAGREES. IT'S MORE SO THERE'S BEEN A PROCESS THAT'S BEEN FOLLOWED, AND WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT AND WE'RE MOVING IT FORWARD. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS IS. YOU'RE VALIDATING THAT THE PROCESS WAS FOLLOWED PROPERLY, THAT THEY GOT THE REQUISITE THAT THE REQUISITE NUMBER OF SIGNATURES WERE TURNED IN AND COUNTED AND CERTIFIED BY THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS. AND AN AUDIT IS REQUIRED BY BY THE LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY THEN TO DIRECT THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS TO PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT. SO AND THEN THE COMMENTS. THANK YOU FOR COMMENTING ON THAT. BUT THE COMMENTS ABOUT IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA. I THINK THAT IS THAT IS A RELEVANT COMMENT FROM PERSPECTIVES OF CITIZENS COME ELECTION TIME WHEN THEY ACTUALLY GO TO VOTE ON THAT, THERE'S

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GOING TO BE CITIZENS THAT AGREE, THEY SEE CERTAIN CONS, AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE CITIZENS OBVIOUSLY, THAT HAD SIGNED THIS, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SAY THERE'S A LOT OF PROS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE PROS AND CONS, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A VOICE TO MEMBERS WHO SIG, PUT THEIR SIGNATURE ON THE PETITION, THEY HAVE A VOICE, I THINK, COME ELECTION TIME, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'LL BE THE MOST IMPORTANT TIME TO GET VOICES OUT AND OPINIONS HEARD AND HAVE THE COMMUNITY BE MORE EDUCATED WHEN THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO VOTE ON IT. BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WRITTEN IN THE LANGUAGE ISN'T ALWAYS CLEAR IN TERMS OF HOW IT WOULD MANIFEST ITSELF. COME TIME FOR DECISIONS TO ACTUALLY BECOME EXECUTED AND TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, MAKING THEIR DECISIONS ON THE BASIS OF OUR, OUR CITY CODE AND CHARTER. SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. THANKS. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THIS WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING TITLE ONLY ON DECEMBER 16TH. ORDINANCE BE SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING TO DIRECT

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THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS TO SUBMIT TO THE ELECTORATE AT THE NEXT REGULAR MUNICIPAL ELECTION. A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE CHARTER, TO WIT, TO ENACT ARTICLE 12. GENERAL PROVISIONS. SECTION 12.10 TO PROHIBIT THE CREATION OF TAX INCREMENT FINANCING INITIATIVE.

DISTRICTS FOR DWELLING UNIT IMPROVEMENTS AND PROHIBIT DWELLING UNIT IMPROVEMENTS TO BE A PUBLIC PURPOSE WITHOUT APPROVAL OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF EACH CITY, LOCAL OR EXEMPTED VILLAGE, SCHOOL DISTRICT WITHIN THE TERRITORY. ADMINISTRATION KNOW THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER. WAS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? CITIZENS. COUNCIL I HAVE A QUESTION FOR TIM. YEAH. THE ONE ITEM ON HERE TALKS ABOUT PROHIBITING DWELLING UNIT IMPROVEMENTS TO BE A PUBLIC PURPOSE. SECTION TWO. YEAH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY WERE OR COULD BE EVEN UNDER EXISTING.

MAYBE WE JUST HAVEN'T USED IT THAT WAY IN. OH, IN SECTION IN 12.10 SECTION ONE, THE PUBLIC.

YEAH THAT THAT WOULD THAT'S THE RESIDENTIAL TIFF SECTION. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE SECTION THAT WE USED. OKAY. BACK IN 2004 OR WHATEVER TO, TO PASS THE RESIDENTIAL TIFFS. OKAY. SECTION C IS, IS GOVERNS THE COMMERCIAL TIFFS. I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID FOR 2004? THAT COMMENT. SO I'M SORRY MY MICROPHONE IS NOT ON NOW. IT'S ON. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL PROPOSED AMENDMENT, SECTION ONE PERTAINS TO RESIDENTIAL TIFFS. SO THAT'S THAT'S 5709 40 B OF THE OHIO REVISED CODE. AND THEN SECTION TWO IS RELATES TO COMMERCIAL TIFFS, WHICH IS 5,709.40 C. SO WHEN WE PASSED THE RESIDENTIAL TIFFS BACK IN 2004 THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY ALWAYS ON THE TABLE FOR DISCUSSION OR AT LEAST HAVE BEEN RECENTLY THOSE WERE PASSED UNDER 57 09. 40B. OKAY. SO AND THOSE REQUIRED SCHOOL BOARD APPROVAL. WE YEAH. SO WE AS A PUBLIC PURPOSE WE ARGUED THAT THE IMPROVEMENT OR CREATION OF DWELLING UNITS WAS THE WAS THE PUBLIC PURPOSE UNDER THAT STATUTE. SO THIS AND SO THIS, THIS IS GOING TO THIS BASICALLY SAYS WE CAN'T DO RESIDENTIAL TIFFS. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. IT SAYS. SO WE CAN'T WITHOUT SCHOOL BOARD APPROVAL. WELL, WHICH THE SCHOOL BOARD APPROVED THE LAST ONE. RIGHT. N.

SO SECTION ONE SAYS WE SAYS THAT THAT WE'RE GOING THAT RESIDENTIAL TIFFS WILL BE PROHIBITED. SECTION TWO SAYS THAT AND REAL LAYMAN'S TERMS THAT IN COMMERCIAL TIFFS WE CAN'T CREATE OR BUILD OR IMPROVE DWELLING UNITS WITHOUT THE AUTHORITY FROM THE RELEVANT SCHOOL DISTRICT. OKAY, OKAY. SO THE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING AND COMMERCIAL TIFFS CANNOT BE CREATED UNLESS WE GET APPROVAL FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH CURRENTLY WE HAVE BEEN GETTING APPROVAL FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE CASES THAT WE HAVE. WE

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HAVE AN EXACT EXAMPLE AND THE CONNECT PROJECT. YES. YES, THE BIG ONES HAVE ALL BEEN APPROVED WITH PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE SCHOOLS AND THE CITY. NOT ALL OF THEM. YEAH, RIGHT. BUT THE BIG ONES. YEAH. AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS, BUT LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, IN MR. ROSS AND YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ESTABLISHED, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A RESIDENTIAL TIFF ON THOSE ON IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT WAS BECAUSE WE HAD TO PAY FOR OUR WATER TREATMENT FACILITY AND BECAUSE OF THAT, IT REALLY WAS DEVELOPMENT PAYING FOR ITSELF. I THINK RESIDENTS WILL HAVE TO REALIZE THAT IF DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T PAY FOR ITSELF, THEN IT WILL GO BACK TO FUTURE COUNCILS WILL HAVE TO RAISE THE STANDARD OF LIVING IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE TO PAY FOR THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IT'S GOING TO COST. IF WE'RE NOT CHARGING IT BACK TO THE NEW INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE MOVING INTO OUR COMMUNITY. SO YOU KNOW, I JUST I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I TELL PEOPLE IS THAT THAT WAS DEVELOPMENT PAYING FOR ITSELF.

AND A LOT OF THESE, ESPECIALLY IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, I WOULD SAY THAT PROBABLY YOURS EXPIRES SOMEWHERE IN 2030. BUT, YOU KNOW, THESE TWO ARTICLES, WHETHER THE VOTER VOTES IT, VOTES FOR OR DOWN WILL HAVE CONSEQUENCES TO FUTURE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE LIVING IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND HOW WE END UP PAYING FOR YOU KNOW, MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS AND RESIDENTS ALSO DON'T WANT TO PAY MORE TO LIVE HERE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, BOTH OF THESE PIECES OF LEGISLATION, YOU KNOW, ARE A SLIPPERY SLOPE. SO BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS THIS BE BACK FOR THIRD READING TITLE ONLY ON DECEMBER 16TH. I'M SORRY. YEAH THAT'S

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RIGHT. ORDINANCE C THIRD READING BY TITLE ONLY TO APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION FOR A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO REVISE THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR THE COOK'S POINT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING FURTHER. COUNCIL. JUST ONE QUICK CLARIFICATION POINT, BECAUSE I WASN'T AT THE MEETING LAST WEEK TO FOLLOW UP, SO I APOLOGIZE.

THIS IS FOR THE CHILD CARE CENTER. DID WE EVER GET ANY FEEDBACK ON WHY IT WASN'T PART OF THE PERMITTED USES FROM THE BEGINNING, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE WAS POTENTIALLY MORE OF AN IN-HOME DAYCARE NEARBY, AND SO THAT HAD CAUSED SOME CONCERNS FROM RESIDENTS. SO THERE ALSO WAS LESS RESIDENTIAL AROUND AT THE TIME AROUND THAT AREA. BUT I THINK THAT WAS THE INITIAL THOUGHT BEHIND THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? MR. PRESIDENT, I MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. ROLL CALL, MR. BURGER. YES. MR. HUNTER YES.

MR. REMES YES. MR. RAUCH YES. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLF YES. MR. BURGER YES. SEVEN. YES.

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LEGISLATION PASSES ORDINANCE D. THIRD READING BY TITLE ONLY TO APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING FOR THE SILO AT WATER AND LIGHT. PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. OF COURSE THIS WAS EXTENDED TO THIS EVENING BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE THE FULL COUNCIL HERE. THERE ARE SOME I THINK THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO PRESENT SOME REQUESTED AMENDMENTS TO THE PLAN THAT I THINK COUNCIL HAD AN INTEREST I, IN DISCUSSING. SO, BOB, DO YOU HAVE IT. YEAH. AWESOME. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE IT. YEAH. YEP.

I'M PULLING IT UP AND THE POINTER IS UP THERE. IF IT'S HELPFUL OR I'M HAPPY TO ADVANCE THE SLIDES. BOB LAMB CONNECT REALTY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THESE ITEMS. WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU AND STAFF. WE HAVE COME FORWARD WITH A FEW AMENDMENTS TO THE PUD THAT WE HOPE ADDRESS SOME OF THE CURRENT CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED OVER THE LAST MONTH OR SO. AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE WATER AND LIGHT REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT LOCATED IN THE HEART OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA. APPROXIMATELY 16 TO 17 ACRES OF CURRENTLY VACANT, BLIGHTED BROWNFIELD SPACE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. ON REPURPOSING INTO A

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MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD INCLUDE HOSPITALITY, HOTEL, FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT, RESTAURANT, APARTMENTS, TOWNHOMES AS WELL AS OFFICE SPACE ALL GOING INTO THE AREA THAT YOU SEE UP HERE RIGHT NOW. THAT AREA DOES INCLUDE THE HISTORIC WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

REPURPOSING THAT TO A CO-WORKING OFFICE USE, AS WELL AS THE REPURPOSING OF THE ICONIC SILOS LOCATED IN THE DOWNTOWN TO A RESTAURANT, FAMILY ORIENTED ENTERTAINMENT EVENT SPACE. SO AS WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF RECENTLY, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT SEVERAL OF THE DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS TO THIS. AND ONE OF THOSE BEING ADDING A COMMERCIAL USE ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE HOTEL AREA. WE ARE HAPPY TO DO SO IN ORDER TO ENHANCE THE MIXED USE STATUS OF THE PROJECT.

SECOND WOULD BE ON THE VEHICULAR CAR WASH, WHICH IS A CONDITIONAL USE AS WELL AS THE HOTEL IN THE PUD. SO THAT MEANS WE DO HAVE TO COME BACK FORWARD TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE TYPES OF USES. IN THIS CASE, TALKING WITH STAFF AND UNDERSTANDING THE CONCERN FROM A VIEW ON MAIN STREET AND THE APPROPRIATENESS OF IT MAKING SURE THAT ANY DRIVE PATHS AND DRIVE AISLES, INCLUDING THE BAYS, WOULD NOT BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET. AND THEN FINALLY ALSO WORKING WITH STAFF THAT WE WOULD REMOVE THE NO TREE REPLACEMENT CLAUSE THAT WAS LOCATED IN THE PUD TEXT, AND THAT WE WOULD WORK WITH STAFF THROUGH DESIGN REVIEW AND FINAL PHASING OF THE PROJECT TO MEET THAT TREE REPLACEMENT POLICY. SO THOSE ARE THE THREE ITEMS LOOKING AT JUST WHAT THIS PROJECT OVERALL IS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE WANTED TO JUST BRING UP AS WE LOOK AT THIS FINAL VOTE, IS THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING JUST OVER $9 MILLION WORTH OF STATE FUNDING BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT CURRENTLY WOULD NOT BE COMING TO MARYSVILLE. FURTHER, IT IS A PARTNERSHIP EFFORT. WE'VE WORKED WITH ALL OF YOU HERE AT THE CITY. WE'VE WORKED WITH THE STATE TO GET THOSE FUNDS. THE COUNTY, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY ON SOME OF THOSE FUNDINGS FROM THE STATE AS WELL AS PRESERVING AN EXISTING HISTORIC BRIDGE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. WE'VE ALSO SECURED SUPPORT FOR THE TIFFIN CRA FROM NOT JUST THE CITY, BUT UNANIMOUSLY FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD. DURING OUR VOTE WITH THE, SO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH A VARIETY OF THE ENTITIES THAT MAKE UP THE COMMUNITY HERE IN ORDER TO BRING THIS PROJECT FORWARD. WE THINK IT IS A GREAT ADDITION TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. WILL TRANSFORM IT. WE'RE FURTHER CONNECTING THE MULTI-USE TRAIL THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS. WE'RE ENHANCING THE STREETSCAPE ALONG THE WHOLE MAIN STREET CORRIDOR. WE'RE BRINGING NEW PUBLIC PARKING TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA AS WELL, ESTABLISHING A NEW AREA FOR RESIDENTS TO CONGREGATE OUTSIDE ALONG MILL CREEK, REALLY BRINGING THAT AMENITY EXISTING BACK INTO USE ALONG THAT PATH AREA. IF YOU'VE DRIVEN PAST IT RECENTLY, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'VE HAD CREWS OUT THERE CLEARING BRUSH WORK, OPENING UP THAT ARE, GETTING IT READY SO THAT HOPEFULLY IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY WE WILL HAVE CREWS ON SITE DOING REMEDIATION WORK TO THE SILOS AND THE HISTORIC TREATMENT PLANT. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE ITEMS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE'VE HANDLED OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. COUNCI. IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS. THIS YEAR. SO THE MOTION TO AMEND THE LEGISLATION, THE FIRST ONE, THE FIRST AMENDMENT, WOULD BE LET'S GO. YEAH. FOR ALL THREE OF THEM. CORRECT. YEAH I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD DO THEM INDIVIDUALLY OKAY. AND I WAS JUST TALKING TO ASHLEY AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO PROBABLY DEFINE WE NEED TO BUTTON DOWN WHAT THESE AMENDMENTS ARE FOR THE RECORD. SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE. AND YOU GUYS CAN VOTE ON THEM ADEQUATELY. SO COMMERCIAL USES WHAT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN.

YEAH. SO BOB I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE THINKING, BUT IF WE WANT TO NARROW DOWN THE TERM COMMERCIAL, WE COULD PROBABLY PULL A COUPLE OF THESE ITEMS FROM THE USES. SO YOU COULD SAY PERSONAL SERVICES, RESTAURANT AND OR BAR ESTABLISHMENT, RETAIL SALES AND SERVICES, OR SPECIALTY FOOD AND BEVERAGE FACILITY. IS THAT SOME OF THE USES YOU WERE THINKING ON THE FIRST FLOOR? YES, WE WOULD BE FINE WITH THOSE USES BEING LISTED AS LONG AS UNDERSTOOD TO BE ONE. NOT ALL THE SPACE IN THE BUILDING WOULD NOT ACCOMMODATE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE USES. MOST LIKELY. BUT

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THEN. SO WE CAN LET'S ARTICULATE THAT, MAKE THAT PART OF THE AMENDMENT THEN. SO HOTELS IN THE WATER AND LIGHT DISTRICT WILL HAVE THOSE SPECIFIC COMMERCIAL USES ON THE FIRST FLOOR. I WOULD MAKE ONE OF THOSE I GUESS. YEAH, YEAH. ONE OR ALL YOU CAN HAVE, YOU CAN HAVE MORE. ONE OR MORE.

YEAH. SO THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST MOTION. SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE LEGISLATION NUMBER.

THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE LEGISLATION UTILIZING WHAT MISS GARBER SPOKE BACK THERE FOR THE COMMERCIAL USES BEING MORE DEFINED. ROLL CALL, MR. HUNTER. YES. MR. REMES YES. MR. RAUCH YES. MR. YES. MR. WOLF. YES. MR. BURPEE YES. MR. BURGER YES. SEVEN. YES. AMENDMENT PASSES.

OKAY, SO NOW THIS IS BACK FOR SECOND READING. WELL, LET'S, LET'S LET'S HANDLE ALL THE AMENDMENTS FIRST AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHERE WE ARE. SO THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS FOR THE VEHICLE CAR WASH FACILITIES OKAY. SO THEN DO I HEAR A MOTION TO AMEND. DO WE ARE WE ARE WE OKAY ASHLEY WITH THAT LANGUAGE. DO WE KNOW WHAT SCREEN DRIVE PATHS ARE. IS THAT DEFINED ANYWHERE. SHOULD WE COLLABORATE ON THAT CALL THAT VEHICULAR USE AREA WOULD BE A TERM THAT WE USE MORE CONSISTENTLY FOR THE DRIVE AISLES OR THE PARKING AREA. SO WE CAN CHANGE OUR DRIVE PATH FOR VEHICULAR USE AREA. YEAH, WE'RE FINE WITH THAT. JUST FOR THE RECORD, I BELIEVE ONE OF THE CONCERNS RAISED BY ONE OF COUNCIL WAS THE BAY WASH AREA. SO I WOULD JUST WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE CONCERN RAISED AND MAKE SURE THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE AMENDMENT. AS WELL.

THEY'RE GOING TO NOT ALLOW EITHER. MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE A QUESTION. SO LET ME MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY. SO RIGHT NOW VEHICLE CAR WASH FACILITIES ARE A CONDITIONAL USE. CORRECT. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD REQUIRE THAT IF THAT A CONDITIONAL USE WERE TO BE APPROVED, THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SCREENED DRIVE PATHS AS DEFINED AS WE'LL DEFINE FURTHER.

OKAY. SO WE'RE NOT VOTING ON WHETHER OR NOT CAR WASHES FACILITIES ARE TO BE ALLOWED OR NOT. CORRECT. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE TAKE THAT ISSUE UP FIRST. OKAY. PRIOR. AND THEN AND THEN IF THEY ARE BUT THEY ARE I MEAN THEY ARE, THEY ARE IF COUNCIL DECIDES THAT THEY'RE PERMITTED, I'M SORRY THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BE A CONDITIONAL USE. THEN WE CAN THEN WE CAN GO TO THIS AMENDMEN. SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION. OKAY. IT'S ALREADY LIKE THEY'RE ALREADY PART OF THE PLAN, RIGHT? CORRECT. RIGHT NOW IT'S LISTED AS A CONDITIONAL USE OKAY. WHICH WAS AN ACCOMMODATION WE MADE AFTER HEARING FROM COUNCIL BECAUSE BEFORE IT WAS PROHIBITED, BEFORE IT WAS PERMITTED UNDER THE PUD. YEAH.

WE HAD HEARD THAT THAT DESIRE THERE WAS A DESIRE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A GREATER REVIEW OF THAT TYPE OF A USE TO DETERMINE THAT IT WAS APPROPRIATE WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE SITE. SO WE AGREED TO MAKE IT A CONDITIONAL USE. SO WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION WITH A FULL SITE PLAN FOR THAT REVIEW. STILL UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS A CONCERN WITH HOW IT COULD AFFECT MAIN STREET AND THE VIEW OF THAT STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO PUT IN, WE HAVE AGREED TO AN ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT THAT IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION ON THAT, WE WOULD ALSO BE HELD TO THE REQUIREMENT THAT IT COULD NOT BE OPEN TO THAT STREET WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF LANDSCAPE OR OTHER ITEM, TO NOT HAVE IT DIRECTLY ON THE STREET. VISIBILITY WISE. AND THAT'S RIGHT. THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT FOR VEHICLE CAR WASH FACILITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AS A CONDITIONAL USE. IF THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL TO REMOVE THE CAR WASH FACILITIES AS A CONDITIONAL USE, THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THIS. BUT IF ANY COUNCIL MEMBER IS WANTING TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO REMOVE CAR WASH FACILITIES, PERIOD AS A PERMITTED OR CONDITIONAL USE, THEN WE SHOULD NOT THEN WE SHOULD WAIT AND HANDLE THAT FIRST WAIT ON THIS AND HANDLE THAT FIRST. SO I MEAN, I HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE CAR WASH. YOU KNOW, ONCE WE SAY YES TO YOU, THEN WE'RE OPENING UP THE FLOODGATES FOR OTHER DEVELOPERS TO WANT TO BUILD MORE CAR. CAR WASHES. AND AROUND THE UPTOWN AND NORMALLY IN A

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HISTORIC UPTOWN WALKABLE AREA. THAT'S A USE YOU WOULD NOT TECHNICALLY SEE. YOU WOULD SEE THEM MORE ON THE OUTSKIRTS. SO I WOULD BE NOT IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING A CAR WASH. SO I GUESS CAR WASHES ARE PERMITTED USE IN THE UPTOWN? NO, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED.

THIS IS JUST CONTAINED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THIS PUD. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S IT. THAT'S STILL, THOUGH. I MEAN, THE WAY I SEE IT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE COULD WASH THEIR CAR IN THEIR DRIVEWAY OR IN THE PARKING LOT OF THEIR APARTMENT BUILDING NOW. YEAH, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS IF WE SCREEN IT, NO ONE WILL SEE IT. I MEAN, IT'S I MEAN, I THINK AN IMPROVEMENT OVER THE CURRENT SITUATION. I THINK I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALL JUSTIFY WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN SCREEN IT. IT TAKES A LEVEL OF ENFORCEMENT TO ENFORCE THE SCREEN AND IS MAINTAINED IN AN AFTER DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF SPOTS AROUND TOWN WHERE COMMERCIAL HAS BEEN PLACED FOR FIVE, TEN, 15, 20 YEARS. AND RIGHT NOW THE LEVEL OF ENFORCEMENT OF MAINTENANCE IS NOT THERE, LANDSCAPING STANDARDS ARE NOT BEING ENFORCED, AND MY OPINION, I JUST HAVE A LEVEL OF CONCERN WITH, AGAIN, WHEN YOU HAVE A WALKABLE AREA, I MEAN, BRIDGE STREET DOESN'T HAVE A CAR WASH IN IT. THERE'S A REASON WHY, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A PERMITTED USE THAT PEOPLE PUT IN A WALKABLE HISTORICAL AREA. THAT'S JUST THAT'S JUST THE REALITY OF IT. I RESPECT WHY YOU WANT TO DO IT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S A USE THAT MOST URBAN AREAS DO NOT HAVE. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH IT. SO YOU KNOW, I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION GO AHEAD. SO I GUESS OUR OPTION IS TO RUN IT THROUGH THE SEVEN OF US. SEE WHAT THE PROHIBIT THE, THE PERMITTED USE OR CONDITIONAL USE OF THE CAR WASH. SO PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT A CAR WASH WOULD BE PERMITTED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE OF THE PUD AS A CONDITIONAL CONDITIONAL USE. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. SO IF YOU IF ONE OF THE IF A COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO MOVE TO AMEND THAT, THEN THAT WOULD REQUIRE SIX VOTES TO PASS. WELL THEN I JUST THINK WE NEED TO WE NEED TO PUT THAT ISSUE ON THE TABLE AND PUT IT TO REST BEFORE WE GET TO WHETHER, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO SCREEN THE DRIVE PATHS UP TO THE CAR WASH. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT, RIGHT? IF WE CAN MAKE A MOTION, SEE IF IT GETS THROUGH SIX, BECAUSE SIX HAVE TO VOTE YES. RIGHT. AND THEN THEN AND THEN WE AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD, I GUESS. IS THERE A IS THERE A LIMITATION ON THE NUMBER OF BAYS THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE OR ALLOWED WITHIN THIS TYPE OF. OR COULD WE PUT THAT INTO THE LEGISLATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO FIND A WIN WIN, RIGHT. BECAUSE I, I, I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE THE RELEVANCE OF A CAR WASH IN AN UP DOWN HISTORICAL AREA EITHER. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S MAYBE A MIDDLE GROUND WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED THIS HUGE COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, CAR WASH IN OUR UPTOWN AREA THAT'S DRIVING MORE TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION IN OUR, IN OUR UPTOW. MAYBE WE COULD LIMIT THE NUMBER OF BAYS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE APPROPRIATENESS WOULD BE, BUT MAYBE THAT'S A DEFINITION THAT WE COULD INCORPORATE WITHIN THE LEGISLATION TO OR WITHIN THE AMENDMENT TO TRY TO. YES. SO OUR EXISTING FACILITIES ARE TWO BAYS THAT ARE TIGHT DRIVE AISLE BAYS. THEY'RE TOUCHLESS. SO THEY DON'T REQUIRE THE SAME SIZE AS THOSE BAYS THAT YOU WOULD SEE WITH LARGE MACHINERY TIED TO IT.

AGAIN, THEY EXIST IN VERY URBANIZED AREAS LEVERAGING THAT WALKABILITY BOTH IN GRANDVIEW AND DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS AND ESPECIALLY IN THE DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS, ONE INCORPORATED INTO ANOTHER BUILDING. SO IT ISN'T A STANDALONE FACILITY IN THAT CAS, LEVERAGING STREETSCAPE SIDEWALKS OUT FRONT, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO INCORPORATE THOSE IN THIS ONE AS WELL. I WOULD ALSO STATE THIS WOULD BE PART OF AND IN ADDITION, PROBABLY ABOVE THE 100 MILLION IN INVESTMENT. WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT BRINGING TO THE COMMUNITY. MR. LAMB, THIS IO

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LIVE IN THE BUILDINGS. IT WOULD BE USED BY RESIDENTS IN THE BUILDING, BUT IT WOULD ALSO BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT LARGE. SO WE WOULD NOT CONTROL THE OR LIMIT THAT REQUIREMENT WITHIN IT. OKAY, YOU STATED THERE'S ONE IN GRANDVIEW, SO WHERE IS THE LOCATION OF THE ONE IN GRANDVIEW? JUST THE DOWNTOWN AREA OVER BY. I CAN SEND YOU THE ADDRESS IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. SO IT'S NOT ON THE MAIN DRAG OF TOWN. IT'S NOT IN DOWNTOWN. NO, BUT IT IS IN GRANDVIEW SLASH COLUMBUS AREA. I KNOW WE'RE FIFTH. I KNOW WE'RE FIFTH. IS BECAUSE THIRD IN HOLLYWOOD, BUT IT'S FARTHER DOWN. IT'S FARTHER DOWN. YEAH. SO IT'S OUT OF THE WALKABLE, HISTORIC UPTOWN AREA. YES. THE ONE DOWNTOWN IS ON OR I GUESS WOULD BE ON LONG STREET, RIGHT IN THE LONG STREET FOURTH AREA. SO WALKABLE JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM PENS. YEAH, IT MAKES SENSE, BUT IT'S NOT A PART OF THE UPTOWN GRANDVIEW HISTORIC AREA. AND ARE YOU SAYING THAT IT WOULD BE ONLY TWO BAYS AT MOST? YES. OKAY. WITH THE TWO EXISTING FACILITIES YOU HAVE, ARE YOU DO YOU SEE A LOT OF TRAFFIC BACK UP ONTO THE ROADS OR ON THIS SPECIFIC SITE? COULD YOU SEE THAT IF THERE'S TWO BAYS BACK UP ONTO YOU KNOW, MAIN STREET THERE OR. RIGHT, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NEAR THE NEAR THE RAILROAD TRACK? NO, WE HAVE NO ISSUES WITH BACKUP AT EITHER OF THE OTHER LOCATIONS.

ONE OF THE KEY THINGS WITH THIS IS IT IS TOUCHLESS. SO IT DOES MOVE QUICKER THAN WHAT YOU WOULD FIND AT SOME OF THE LARGER OPERATIONS WHERE THERE'S MACHINERY TOUCHING IT, INDIVIDUALS ARE CLEANING THE CARS OR ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES. MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. SO THE BOUNDARIES OF THIS SITE ARE VERY UNIQUE. WHAT LOCATION WOULD ACCOMMODATE THIS? SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A COUPLE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL LOCATIONS. WE'VE NOT SETTLED ON ONE YET. IT WOULD NOT BE ON THE CRAZY SCOTTIES OR ON THE WATER PLANT SITE OR THE SILOS. IT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL LAND THAT WAS PURCHASED BY CONNECT AND THEN BROUGHT FORWARD TO COME INTO THIS PUD. OKAY, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE CURRENT BOUNDARIES OF THIS PUD. IT IS NOT IN THE CURRENT BOUNDARIES. AND MISS GARBER, SO. SO IF IT'S NOT IN THE CURRENT BOUNDARIES OF THE CURRENT PUD, WHAT DOES IT MATTER? DON'T WE HAVE LANGUAGE IN THE PUD THAT ALLOWS PROPERTIES PURCHASED IN THE FUTURE TO COME IN UNDER THE SAME GUIDELINES? YES, WITH A TIME LIMIT ON THAT. AND IT DEPENDS WHICH PARCELS AS WELL. OKAY. SO IF IT'S ONE OF THOSE PARCELS THEN POTENTIALLY IT COULD AUTOMATICALLY THOSE PARCELS ARE IDENTIFIED RIGHT IN THE PLAN.

CORRECT. THAT WOULD BE DISCUSSED AT THAT TIME. WELL IT WOULD NO IT WOULD COME IN AS A CONDITIONAL USE. OKAY. GOTCHA. OKAY OKAY. MISS GARBER, WHEN WE DID OUR UPTOWN REVITALIZATION PLAN, NOW, THAT WAS PROBABLY, WHAT, 2018? 16. 16. 16. YOU PROBABLY OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD. DO NOT KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW EITHER. BUT IN THE REVISIONING OF THAT PLAN, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT AND DIFFERENT SITES, YOU KNOW, IS THERE FROM YOUR MEMORY. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER, IT'S OKAY. BUT DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THOSE AREAS AROUND THERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE AT ONE TIME WHEN THE PLAN WAS FIRST BROUGHT THROUGH, IT REMOVED ALL GAS STATIONS IN THE UPTOWN. NOW, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN THAT WAS, GAS STATIONS BECAME A CONDITIONAL USE DUE TO THE COMMITTEE THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER. BUT THE BUT THE PLAN AT THAT TIME DID NOT WANTED TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF BUSINESSES THAT CATERED TO HIGH VOLUMES OF TRAFFIC TO HELP WITH CREATE MORE OF A WALKABLE URBAN, LOWER TRAFFIC IMPACT DISTRICT IN AND AROUND THE UPTOWN. YEAH. SO THAT DISCUSSION RELATED TO THOSE VEHICULAR USE USES THAT WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE REZONING, THE ZONING CODE UPDATE IN 2020 WHEN WE HAD THOSE COMMITTEE MEETINGS THAT THE COMMITTEE THAT AD HOC AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER, THAT'S WHEN WE HAD A LOT OF THAT DISCUSSION ON THE REMOVAL OF THE GAS STATION, USE THE CAR WASHES, AND WHERE WE WANTED THOSE TO GO WITHIN THE CITY. SO THAT THAT DISCUSSION DID OCCUR. AND THAT WAS DURING THE ZONING CODE UPDATE IN 2020, BECAUSE I ANYWAY. SO. WE COULD WE COULD MAKE A MOTION TO ELIMINATE THE CONDITIONAL USE OF THE. WASH. RIGHT. AND GO GO THROUGH A VOTE. AND IF IT

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DOESN'T PASS THEN WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT YOU TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF NUMBER OF BAYS. THAT'S RIGHT. YEP. YEAH. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO ELIMINATE THE CONDITIONAL USE OF CAR WASH IN THE PUD. WHICH MEANS THAT IT WOULD BE THEY WOULD BE PROHIBITED THEN. CORRECT. OKAY, SO WE'RE ALL CLEAR ON WHAT THE MOTION IS. SO ROLL CALL, MR. REAMES. NO. MR. RAUCH. NO. MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. WOOLFE? YES. MR. BURBY. YES. MR. BURGER? YES. MR. HUNTER? YES. FIVE. YES.

MOTION FAILS. I MOVED TO AMEND THE LEGISLATION TO LIMIT ANY CAR WASH FACILITIES TO TWO BAYS WITH REQUIRED SCREENING. I WOULD LIMIT IT TO ONE BAY WITH REQUIRED SCREENING. SORRY.

MOTION. MOTION. HE'S GOT A MOTION ON THE TABLE. BUT LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND.

WHAT SCREEN. WHAT? THIS. YEAH. CAN WE CLARIFY WHAT SCREENING IS? IS THAT THREE FOOT TALL, FOUR FOOT TALL, SIX FOOT TALL, LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST SO WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE THAT WHEN WE GET TO THOSE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS AT DRB, WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT THE INTENT OF SCREENING WAS, RIGHT? I GUESS IS THAT THE WASH BAYS OR IS THAT THE VEHICULAR USE AREA? I WOULD SAY EVERGREEN AND 15FT TALL. SO YOU HAVE TO ALSO HAVE TO THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE ON MAIN STREET. YEAH. YEAH.

EVERGREEN AND SIX FEET TALL. BECAUSE IF IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM FROM THE VIEWING OF LINE SIGHT, THEN IT SHOULD BE OKAY. BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET OUT TO, ONCE YOU GET OUT TO THE MAIN STREET, THE SHRUBBERY SHOULD BE LOW ENOUGH. BUT IF YOU'RE BACK OFF OFF OF THE MAIN STREET, THEN YOU SHOULD BE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO SEE OFF OF THIRD STREET. YEAH. BUT IF THEY'RE JUST JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE PARKING LOT, IF THE DRIVE AISLE HAPPENS TO GO UP CLOSE TO MAIN STREET AND YOU, YOUR ROW OF SHRUBS IS THERE ON MAIN STREET. DO YOU WANT SIX EIGHT FOOT TALL EVERGREENS OR WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT TALLER? I THINK JUST JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, IN CASE THAT WE DISCUSSED THE OPACITY, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD. SO THEN IT COULD BE A WALL, IT COULD BE A FENCE, IT COULD BE EVERGREENS. AND I THINK WE REQUIRE 85% IN, IN OUR OTHER LANGUAGE FOR THAT. YEAH. WE, WE CAN FOLLOW OUR STANDARD LANGUAGE OF SCREENING. WHICH IS THE OPACITY AND THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT. OKAY. I, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE LINE OF SIGHT YOU KNOW, IMPACTS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FURTHER AWAY MAYBE THE TALLER YOU IT WOULD NEED TO BE. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN GIVE THAT ANSWER TONIGHT. I MEAN, SOMETHING UP CLOSE TO THE STREET WOULDN'T NEED TO BE TALLER THAN SIX FEET TALL BECAUSE I DON'T THERE AREN'T ANY 15 FOOT TALL GIANTS WALKING DOWN OUR STREETS. BUT, YOU KNOW, FURTHER BACK AT NIGHT MIGHT NEED TO BE A LITTLE TALLER, DEPENDING ON THE ELEVATION. SO I. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED IN THE LANGUAGE. GREAT. WELL, AGAIN, IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE.

SO THOSE ISSUES CAN BE ADDRESSED IN FRONT OF PLAIN IN FRONT OF PLANNING COMMISSION IN DESIGN REVIEW. RIGHT. AND DESIGN REVIEW. BUT PLANNING COMMISSION CAN ASK THESE QUESTIONS AND MAKE THEIR DETERMINATION BASED ON SOME OF THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS. THE LAYOUT AND THE CONFIGURATION. RIGHT. YOU KNOW IT. IT MIGHT SIX FEET MIGHT BE ALL WE NEED. CAN WE JUST LEAVE IT AT SCREENING TO PREVENT THE VIEW OF FROM PEDESTRIANS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FROM THE ROADWAY. YEAH. PEDESTRIANS ALONG THE ROADWAY. THAT'S FINE. THE, THE LET ME, LET ME LET ME MAKE IT. LET ME JUST MAKE A POINT HERE. MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK YOU SOUND LIKE YOU'RE OBJECTING TO THE NUMBER OF BAYS, BUT YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE TYPE OF SCREENING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO MAYBE WE NEED TO SEPARATE THOSE TWO MOTIONS. AND NOT NOT NOT NOT COMBINE THEM. DO YOU FOLLOW ME? YEAH. THE ONLY ISSUE I HAVE WITH HAVE WITH SCREENING, SCREENING OF PARKING LOTS IS FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF NOT TO MAKE THE PARKING LOT PRETTY, BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO PREVENT SPILL OF LIGHT POLLUTION ON ANY OTHER PROPERTY. THE PROBLEM IS WITH THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE IS OUR ZONING CODE STATES THAT A PARKING LOT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE COVERED ON ALL FOUR SIDES. IT'S

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JUST ON STREET VIEW. NOT ONLY DOES IT VAGUELY HAVE IT HAVE THAT WRITTEN, SO IT'S NOT ACTUALLY DOING DOING WHAT THE CODE IS SUPPOSED TO SAY. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. BUT IT ALSO DOES NOT STATE EVERGREEN, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS THAT YOU DRIVE THROUGH A LOT OF BUSINESSES AND AROUND MARYSVILLE, AND DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IS PLACING BURNING BUSHES OR WHATEVER IT IS, AND THE PROBLEM IS WITH THAT IS YOU'RE ONLY PREVENTING LIGHT POLLUTION THREE MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR OR SIX MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR, DEPENDING ON THE GROWING SEASON.

THOSE ARE THE TWO BIGGEST ISSUES I HAVE WITH THE CURRENT CODE AND THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN. SO, YOU KNOW, I I'M JUST LETTING COUNCIL KNOW TO BE MINDFUL. THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WHY SHRUBS ARE PLANTED AROUND PARKING LOTS AND TREES ARE PLANTED IS TO A PROTECT WITH HEAT POLLUTION, AND B TO PROTECT WITH LIGHT POLLUTION SPILLING OVER ONTO ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND CREATING LIGHT POLLUTION WITHIN A CITY. THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY DO IT. I'M GOING TO DISAGREE. OKAY.

THAT'S WHY WE ALLOW MOUNDING OR SHRUBBERY, AND IT'S ONLY TO BE AT A HEIGHT THAT IT'S TO KIND OF CREATE A VISUAL BUFFER. SO YOU'RE NOT JUST SEEING A SEA OF CARS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT REQUIRING A 15 FOOT TALL MOUND OF DIRT. YOU KNOW, THE MOUNTING IS ONLY, I THINK, 2 TO 3FT TALL.

YEAH. SO THAT'S CORRECT. THERE THERE IS AN OPTION FOR PLANTING MOUNDING OR A FENCE MATERIAL TO BE USED. AT LEAST THREE FOOT IN HEIGHT. AND IT'S TO CONCEAL THE VIEW OF PARKED CARS FROM THE STREET. AND LANDSCAPE MATERIAL SHALL ACHIEVE THE THREE FOOT HEIGHT WITHIN TWO YEARS OF INSTALLATION, AND ALL SCREENING SHALL HAVE A MINIMUM OPACITY OF 80% AT ALL TIMES. SO TYPICALLY WE REQUIRE SOME SORT OF EVERGREEN MATERIAL AROUND THAT PARKING LOT, BECAUSE IT BECAUSE IT DOES STATE AT ALL TIMES. SO IF IT WAS A DECIDUOUS SHRUB, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET THAT IN THE WINTER MONTHS. OKAY. NOW ONE COMMENT ABOUT THIS. SO IN THE CASE OF A CAR WASH YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE NOISE IS A WALL LIKE IN TERMS OF MITIGATING NOISE POLLUTION. IS A WALL BETTER THAN SHRUBBERY? WELL, IF YOU WOULD ASK A COMMUNITY THAT'S MORE FLUENT THEY WOULD USE EVER.

THEY WOULD USE GREENERY. THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU GO TO COMMUNITIES LIKE DUBLIN, BEXLEY, GRANDVIEW, GRANVILLE, ALL THOSE COMMUNITIES YOU DON'T SEE WALLS OR FENCES EVER BUILT. IT'S ALL GREENERY. IT'S ALL SHRUBBERY. BECAUSE SHRUBBERY ABSORBS NOISE. IT ABSORBS LIGHT POLLUTION. IT ABSORBS, ABSORBS THE NOISE, AND IT COVERS UP POLLUTION. AND WHAT'S EASIER TO MAINTAIN AND WHAT LOOKS PRETTIER OVER TIME? AN OAK TREE OR A WALL THAT'S GOING TO FALL APART. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF FENCES IN ALL THOSE COMMUNITIES YOU JUST MENTIONED. I GO THERE QUITE FREQUENTLY, AS A MATTER OF FACT. SO I I'M GOING TO DISAGREE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU KNOW, THOSE DECISIONS WOULD GO TO DESIGN REVIEW. YOU KNOW, IS IT A BRICK WALL. IS IT A FENCE. IS IT A MIX OF MATERIALS? AND SO I WILL I WILL MAKE MY AMENDMENT, I WILL REMOVE THE LIMIT ON THE TWO BAYS SO THAT WE'RE ONLY VOTING ON THE SCREENING OF OPACITY OF 80% AND ALLOW THE HEIGHT TO BE DETERMINED WHEN THE ACTUAL CONFIGURATION IS REVIEWED. THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S IN OUR CODE. THAT'S HOW IT EXISTS NOW, RIGHT? YEAH. MR. SORRY TO ADD CONFUSION TO THE CONVERSATION HERE. SO IS 80% OKAY? I MEAN, WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT JUST TYPICAL? IS THAT THAT'S OUR DENSE ENOUGH? IT WOULD BE THIS LOCATION. IT WOULD BE EVERGREENS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT THROUGH EVERGREEN. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WHAT'S POSSIBLE. IS IT POSSIBLE TO GO 90% ON EVERGREEN? I DON'T KNOW, YOU CAN GO AS HIGH AS YOU WANT TO GO. I DON'T THINK IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO 100%. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SEE THROUGH. I MEAN, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS DRIVE AROUND MARYSVILLE AND LOOK AT, LIKE, PANDA EXPRESS, LOOK AT OUR NEW FACILITIES, LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, THE DENTAL, THE DENTAL DEVELOPMENT, THE DENTAL GROUP RIGHT BEFORE PANDA EXPRESS, THEY WENT UP AND BEYOND WHAT OUR CITY CODE SAYS. OKAY, THAT'S WHY THERE'S SO MUCH PLANTING. THEN YOU GO TO PANDA EXPRESS, WHO DID THE DID WHAT? OUR CODE STATED. YOU CAN SEE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN THE QUALITY OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT IS 80% A TYPICALLY CONSIDERED A LIKE A HIGH SCREENING PERCENTAGE COVER? THAT'S WHAT WE REQUIRE IN ALL OF OUR SCREENING. LIKE EVERYWHERE WE DO, SCREENING IS 80%. IT WOULD BE AT A MINIMUM OF MINIMUM. YES, MINIMUM. SO THEN IT COULD BE LIKE A SLAP FENCE.

IT COULD BE A BRICK WALL, IT COULD BE EVERGREENS, BUT IT CAN'T BE DECIDUOUS SHRUBS. IT

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CAN'T BE CANNOT. OH THAT WON'T WORK FOR 80%. NO, BECAUSE THE LEAVES ARE OFF IN THE WINTER.

OH, DECIDUOUS. SORRY. I'M NOT I'M NOT A PLANT WHISPERER. SO. OKAY. UNDERSTAND. THANKS. SO THAT THE MOTION IS JUST TO DO THE SCREENING, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF BAYS NEXT. OKAY.

ROLL CALL, MR. RAUSCH. YES. MR. BORDNER? YES, MR. WOLFE? YES. MR. BURBY. YES, MR. BURGER? YES, MR. HUNTER. YES. MR. REAMES YES. SEVEN. YES. MOTION CARRIES. SO THEN IN THIS SO I DON'T KNOW, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION TO LIMIT THE BAYS OR. NO. ARE WE ARE YOU ARE YOU STILL TALKING ABOUT 22111. I AND. I THINK ABOUT OTHER CAR WASHES IN TOWN THAT WE HAVE. AND WE HAVE ONE OUT ON YOU KNOW, I GUESS EAST FIFTH THAT BRING I MEAN, IT'S AUTOMATIC. WE KNOW WE KNOW THAT.

BUT IT BRINGS IN A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND IT PRESENTS ITSELF WITH A LOT OF CONGESTION, ESPECIALLY CALL IT BETWEEN LIKE THREE AND SIX WHEN PEOPLE ARE GETTING OFF OF WORK GOING, YOU KNOW, GETTING THEIR CAR WASHED. AND I COULD SEE THAT POTENTIALLY HAPPENING IN OUR UPTOWN. AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE WANT THAT MY, MY PROPOSAL WOULD BE ONE BAY JUST TO TRY TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE CONGESTION THAT WILL INEVITABLY HAPPEN AT THAT, AT THAT LOCATION. SO, SO I WOULD I WOULD PREFER TO SEE ONE VERSUS MULTIPLE. AND I WOULD GO THE OPPOSITE WAY WITH THE SAME NUMBER OF CARS, TWO BAYS IS GOING TO BE MUCH LESS CONGESTION THAN ONE BAY. YOU'RE GOING TO BACK UP WITH JUST ONE BAY. AND WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE IF WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE IT PERMITTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. BUT IT'S IN THERE, SO GET OVER IT. YEAH. I MEAN, THE ONLY REASON WHY IT WAS CONDITIONAL BECAUSE CERTAIN PEOPLE OWNED PROPERTY IN THOSE AREAS WHO DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE OUT ON THEIR MONEY, GET OVER IT. WELL, SO CAN IT BE DONE WITH ONE BAY? IS IT PREFERABLY TWO BAYS BECAUSE OF THAT STACKING ISSUE AND CONCERN, YOU'RE ABLE TO MOVE THE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT AT A BETTER RATE. AS I SAID, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY PUSHING UP ONTO THE STREET AT OUR OTHER LOCATION. THE ONE IN COLUMBUS GRANDVIEW AREA IS TWO BAYS. THERE IS NEVER A BACKUP ONTO THE SITE. I ALSO JUST WANT TO REITERATE IT IS A SMALL SITE THAT WE OPERATE ON. I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT 0.3 ACRES. I'D HAVE TO GET YOU THE EXACT SIZE THOUGH. AND SO THIS IS AND THAT HAS ALSO A SMALL OFFICE ATTACHED TO IT AS WELL. AGAIN, WITHOUT THAT MACHINERY, IT VERY MUCH DRIVES DOWN THE SIZE OF THE BAY. BEING A TOUCHLESS AND WITHOUT A TRACK SYSTEM IN THERE, AND THAT JUST IT ALLOWS YOU TO CONDENSE THAT FOOTPRINT. SO. I GUESS MAYBE I'M LOOKING AT THIS WRONG, BUT CORRECT ME IF I AM. YOU COULD HAVE TWO TOUCHLESS BAYS OR YOU COULD HAVE ONE REALLY BIG NON TOUCHLESS BAY THAT BOTH HAVE THE SAME CAPACITY AND THEY BOTH TAKE THE SAME FOOTPRINT AND THEY HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC. NO BECAUSE IT'S TWO TOUCH BECAUSE IT'S TWO BAYS. IT'S MOVING PEOPLE THROUGH AT A FASTER RATE. SO YOU'RE NOT GETTING THAT BACK UP. IF YOU HAVE A MACHINERY BAY. NORMALLY YOU'RE SEEING A LONGER AMOUNT OF TIME IN THAT BAY. SO IF YOU WERE TO DO ONE BIGGER BAY WITH THAT MACHINERY, THE IMPACT WOULD ACTUALLY BE GREATER ON THAT FLOW. SO BY DOING TWO TOUCHLESS, IT'S GOING TO ALLOW IT TO MOVE QUICKER THROUGH THAT SITE AREA.

IS THERE A IS THERE A SETBACK. AND I'M JUST THINKING LIKE IS THERE A SETBACK REQUIREMENT WHERE AGAIN, I. I LOVE MUUMUSE, I GO TO MUUMUSE RIGHT. BUT IT'S NOT A LOT OF FUN, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES ON EAST FIFTH STREET TRYING TO GET IN OR AROUND MOOMOO'S. SO I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, IN OUR UPTOWN, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'VE GOT MORE PEOPLE COMING LIVING. RIGHT. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT, HEY, I'M ON MY WAY HOME, I'M GOING TO POP IN AND WASH MY CAR, AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A MASSIVE TRAFFIC ISSUE. SO IF THERE'S MAYBE A SETBACK WHERE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE PULLING INTO THE LOT AS OPPOSED TO POTENTIALLY WAITING ON ON THE STREET, WE HAVE NOBODY WAITING ON A STREET IN OUR OTHER LOCATIONS. AND I GUESS MY SOON

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TO BE IN CONDITIONAL USE, WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO PLANNING AND DESIGN REVIEW WHERE THOSE ITEMS WOULD BE TACKLED. THEN WE COULD WE COULD LET THEM HAVE HAVE THE THEY WOULD LOOK AT KIND OF FLOW.

AND IF WE GET THAT COMMITMENT, LIKE WE KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT LOG JAMMING OUR UPTOWN, WE'RE 100% COMMITTED TO THAT. I MEAN, THIS IS AN ADDITION TO $100 MILLION. I I'VE HEARD THAT NUMBER QUITE, QUITE A LOT THE LAST 12 MONTHS. BUT I GET IT BECAUSE IT'S A BIG NUMBER, BUT I JUST I KNOW THE ONLY THING, THE ONLY THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE QUESTIONING ABOUT $100 MILLION DEVELOPMENT, MR. LAMB, IS THAT $100,000,000 MILLION DEVELOPMENT IN MOST COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BUILT A BUILT SOMETHING LIKE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. RIGHT. AND I IN THE BRIDGE CORRIDOR IS WAY MORE MONEY THAN WHAT WE HAVE SPENT. YOU WILL NOT FIND A CAR WASH ANYWHERE IN ANY OF THOSE FACILITIES. THERE'S TWO IN BRIDGE PARK AND THAT IS THE CAR DEALERSHIPS. THAT IS THE ONE THING THAT IS UPSETTING TO ME, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE PUSHING A CAR DEALERSHIP. I MEAN, I'M SORRY, A CAR WASH AND YOU WILL NOT FIND ONE IN A WALKABLE URBAN AREA. THAT'S THAT IS SPENDING $100 MILLION TO RE TO REVITALIZE AN UPTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT ONLY IN MARYSVILLE WOULD YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE A QUESTIO. SO A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TOPIC.

THIS CAR WASH. WOULD THIS. SO THIS PROJECT HAS A TAX ABATEMENT AND THERE'S A TIF. THERE'S A SCHOOL INCOME TAX SHARING AGREEMENT. IF THIS CAR WASH WERE TO BE BUILT WITHIN THE PUD OR ON AN ADJACENT PARCEL THAT IS BROUGHT INTO THE PUD, IS IT ALSO SUBJECT TO THE ABATEMENT AS WELL AS THE TIF? I DON'T BELIEVE SO, YES. YEAH, IT WOULD BE, BUT BUT THIS IS I MEAN, YES, IT WOULD BE, I GUESS IS THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. BUT THIS IS JUST A COMMERCIAL, A SMALL COMMERCIAL BUSINESS. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO CREATE THERE AREN'T GOING TO BE RESIDENCES. THE INCOME TAX SHARING IS NOT GOING TO BE RELEVANT. OKAY. BUT THE ACTUAL INVESTMENT IS SUBJECT TO THE ABATEMENT. AND. OKAY. THANKS. IF I ASKED THAT THE WRONG WAY I KNOW YOU GOT TO LOOK ON YOUR FACE IF I SAID THE WRONG WAY. OR MAYBE WE DIDN'T DISCUSS THAT FULLY. PLEASE COMMENT. AS YOU SEE FIT. I GUESS IF THAT'S YOUR ATTORNEY'S ANSWER, I'M NOT GOING TO DISPUTE HIM ON IT. I THINK IT'S PHRASED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW HE'S GETTING THERE. OKAY. OKAY, SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO LIMIT CAR WASH FACILITIES TO TWO BAYS. ROLL CALL. MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. WOLFE. YES. MR. BURBY. YES. MR. BURGER. NO. MR. HUNTER. NO. MR. REAMES. YES. MR. ROUSH. YES. MOTION FAILS. SO NOW THERE ARE NO LIMITS ON THE NUMBER OF BAYS.

SO WE CAN MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO LIMIT ONE BAY. SO I'LL MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO A LIMIT ONE, A MOTION TO LIMIT IT TO ONE BAY. AND LET'S AND ROLL CALL. MR. WOLFF. NO. MR. BURBY. NO. MR. BURGER? YES. MR. HUNTER? YES. MR. YEAH. MR. ROUSH? NO. MR. NO. MOTION FAILS. THERE WE HAVE NO LIMIT. YEAH. COULD WE RE MOTION AGAIN TO CONSIDER A TWO BAY MAXIMUM? ONLY IF YOU VOTED ON THE SIDE THAT PREVAILED. SO IF YOU CAST A NO VOTE, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO WHICH TWO VOTED? NO, I DON'T REMEMBER. MR. BURGER AND MR. HUNTER. SO YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF BAYS TO TWO. I THINK I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER. CONSIDER.

YEAH. YEAH. THE VOTE ON THAT MOTION. ON THE MOTION? YES. THE PREVIOUS MOTION. ROLL CALL. MR. BURBY? YES. MR. BURGER? YES. MR. HUNTER. YES. MR. REEMS. YES. MR. ROUSH? YES. MR. BORDNER. YES.

MR. WOLF. YES. MOTION CARRIES. SO NOW YOU MAY CONSIDER IT. SO NOW THERE NEEDS TO BE A MOTION.

NOW WE NEED TO GO BACK AND MAKE THAT MOTION AGAIN. YEAH. WE HAVE IT BACK. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION CALL FOR A VOTE. THIS IS TO LIMIT TO TWO BAYS. TO TWO BEDS TO TWO. RIGHT. SO THE RECONSIDERATION REQUIRED FOUR VOTES AND PASSED. NOW WE'RE BACK TO THE QUESTION. ROLL CALL. MR. BURGER. YES. MR. HUNTER? YES. MR. REEMS. YES. MR. ROUSH? YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. WOLF. YES.

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MR. BURBY. YES. MOTION CARRIES. GO TO AMENDMENT THREE. OKAY, I WOULD MAKE. I'M SORRY. DID WE COVER THE SCREENING ONE? YES. OKAY. YEAH, WE ALREADY DID. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CLOSE THAT ONE OUT. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE AMENDMENT THREE. OKAY. I JUST HAVE TO JUMP IN HERE REAL QUICK. OKAY. SO I WHAT'S UP? THERE IS REALLY NOT BUTTONED DOWN. IT SAYS DEVELOPERS WORKING WITH STAFF TO FINALIZE THE TREE REPLACEMENT POLICY. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE AMENDMENT REALLY IS THAT THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO FOLLOW THE TREE, THE CITY'S CODIFIED TREE REPLACEMENT POLICY. THAT WOULD BE MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL. WE'RE REMOVING THE CLAUSE THAT SAYS DEVELOPERS WORKING WITH STAFF. SO WE'RE REMOVING THE NO TREE REPLACEMENT CLAUSE AND REPLACING IT WITH A CLAUSE THAT SAYS THAT THE DEVELOPER IN THIS PUD WILL FOLLOW THE CITY'S CODIFIED TREE REPLACEMENT POLICY. YEAH, THAT'S THE AMENDMENT. I WILL THAT'S THE MOTION I'LL MAKE. ROLL CALL TO HAVE AN ATTORNEY, MR. HUNTER. YES. MR. REEMS? YES. MR. RAUCH? YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. WOLF. YES. MR. BURBY. YES. MR. BURGER? YES. SEVEN. YES. MOTION CARRIES.

SECOND READING. CITIZEN COMMENTS. WHAT CITIZENS LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC AS AMENDED.

AS AMENDED. HEARING NONE AND MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THIRD READING. ROLL CALL. MR. REEMS. YES. MR. RAUCH? YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. WOLF. YES. MR. BURBY. YES. MR. BURGER? YES. MR. HUNTER. YES. SEVEN. YES. MOTION CARRIES. MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION AS AMENDED. ROLL CALL. MR. RAUCH. YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. WOLF. YES. MR. BURBY. YES. MR. BURGER? YES. MR. HUNTER? YES. MR. REEMS. YES. SEVEN. YES. LEGISLATION PASSES.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ORDINANCE E. THIRD READING. TITLE ONLY TO APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION FOR A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE, SECTION 1121.15 REGIONAL MIXED USE RMU DISTRICT ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING FURTHER.

COUNCIL. MR. PRESIDENT, I'D MOVE TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. ROLL CALL. MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. WOLF. YES. MR. BURBY. YES. MR. BURGER? YES. MR. HUNTER? YES. MR. REEMS. YES. MR. RAUCH. YES.

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SEVEN ZERO. LEGISLATION PASSES. ORDINANCE F, THIRD READING. TITLE ONLY TO APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION FOR A ZONING CODE. AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE, SECTION ONE, ONE, TWO, 1.08 SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL DISTRICT 1121.13. MANUFACTURING AND INNOVATION DISTRICT SECTION 1121.14. LIGHT MANUFACTURING DISTRICT. SECTION 1121.15. REGIONAL MIXED USE DISTRICT. SECTION 1123. GENERALLY APPLICABLE DISTRICT REGULATIONS AND THE APPENDIX.

GLOSSARY OF TERMS REGARDING THE USES OF MARIJUANA CULTIVATION, PROCESSING AND OR RETAIL DISPENSING ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING FURTHER. REAL QUICK AGAIN, THIS IS THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT'S NOW MOOT SINCE WE PASSED THE ZONING FOR THE FOR THE PROCESSING AND CULTIVATION.

SO I WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO VOTE AGAINST IT. SO IT FAILS. WE'RE REQUIRED TO TAKE ACTION, RIGHT? RIGHT. WE'RE REQUIRED TO TAKE ACTION. AND WE WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WHICH WE'VE DONE. COUNCIL. I MOVED TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. ROLL CALL. MR. WOLF? NO. MR. BURBY. NO. MR. BURGER. NO. MR. HUNTER? NO. MR. REAMS. NO. MR. RAUCH. NO. MR. BORDNER. NO. LEGISLATION FAILS.

[COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL PERSONS AND GENERAL DISCUSSION:]

COMMENTS OF CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. REAL QUICK. I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE, YOU KNOW, OUR DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS HERE TONIGHT. SO. AND IT WAS GREAT. GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE TONIGHT. ANNA DOES A LOT IN HER ROLE. AND OBVIOUSLY WE APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT SHE DOES. BUT IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE TONIGHT. AND I KNOW A LOT WAS GOING ON SO BUT AND SECONDARILY TO THAT I JUST WANTED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON DURING THE HOLIDAYS HERE. TONIGHT WAS A GREAT EXAMPLE. THERE'S OTHER THINGS, AS WE ANNOUNCED THAT'S COMING AND GOING TO BE GOING ON. SO I JUST ASK EVERYBODY TO TAKE THE TIME TO, YOU KNOW, VISIT

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UPTOWN MARYSVILLE, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A LOT OF THESE ACTIVITIES AND ALSO SHOP AND VISIT OUR RESTAURANTS AND, AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT. LET'S MAKE IT A LET'S MAKE IT A GREAT HOLIDAY SEASON. AND WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. I'LL START. MR. RAUCH. ONE THING IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED IS THE CARE TRAIN IS THIS SATURDAY, DECEMBER. THE SEVENTH STARTS AT 10 A.M. AT MCAULIFFE'S. IT'S A PHENOMENAL COMMUNITY EVENT WHERE THIS COMMUNITY REALLY RALLIES AROUND AND TAKES CARE OF DISADVANTAGED YOUTH FOR CHRISTMAS TIME. SO IF YOU'RE ABLE TO GET OUT TO MCAULIFFE'S ON SATURDAY MORNING, TERRIFIC. IF NOT, IT'S STREAMED.

IT'S YOU CAN GET ON THE PHONE AND CALL IN YOUR YOUR BIDS. THERE'S INFORMATION ON CARE TRAIN.ORG OR I BELIEVE RIGHT NO. SO IT'S ONLINE RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S IT. MR. REEVES. YOU KNOW I SECOND THAT. CARE IS A HUGE YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE HUGE THINGS FOR OUR COMMUNITY, SOMETHING I'M REALLY PROUD OF. THE COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER FOR THIS EVERY YEAR. AND YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO OUR OTHER EVENTS THAT WE HAVE UPTOWN, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK REALLY MAKES MARYSVILLE, MARYSVILLE. SO IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO SUPPORT THAT, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT. MR. HUNTER? YEAH. THIS PAST SATURDAY, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF JUST SHOP SMALL. AND I WOULD SAY THAT IF THERE WAS ONE BRIGHT SIDE OF SATURDAY THAT IT WASN'T THE FOOTBALL GAME, IT WAS DOWN TO UPTOWN MARYSVILLE AND JUST THE DIFFERENT LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT HAD OPENED THEIR DOORS. A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE IN AND AROUND THE UPTOWN, DESPITE THE FRIGID WEATHER. SO IT WAS A REALLY GOOD TIME AND JUST APPRECIATE ALL THOSE THAT HAD PARTICIPATED TONIGHT. WE HAD HEARD FROM THE AVALON'S CHILDREN CHOIR IN STEP DANCE. WONDERFUL PERFORMANCES AND IT IS. IT'S SO GREAT TO SEE A COMMUNITY ENGAGE TOGETHER DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON AND TO SEE THE PERFORMING ARTS SHINE, AND WE HAD OPPORTUNITY TO GET TOGETHER AROUND THE TREE FOR THE TREE LIGHTING. A WONDERFUL TIME TO BE PART OF MARYSVILLE. AND THEN JUST LASTLY, APPRECIATION TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REPORT ON HIGH POINT. YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, I HAD A OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO VOCATIONAL SCHOOL. MY LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND I WAS TOLD, HEY, YOU'RE GOING TO MISS OUT ON YOUR SENIOR YEAR IN HIGH SCHOOL. DON'T DO THAT. AND SO INSTEAD, YOU KNOW, I HAD ONE OF MY REALLY GOOD FRIENDS IN HIGH SCHOOL. HE SAID, I'M GOING TO DO THAT.

WELL, I FOUND MYSELF IN MY 20S. YOU KNOW, I WAS IN THE MILITARY, BUT I WAS OTHER THAN THAT, I WAS A TRADITIONAL COLLEGE STUDENT. AND ON THE WEEKENDS HERE I AM WORKING AT A PAINT STORE. BUT MY BUDDY WHO HAD WENT TO VOCATIONAL SCHOOL, HE WAS MANAGING 300 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEXES WITH THEIR HEATING AND COOLING MAKING A KILLING COMPARED TO WHAT I WAS MAKING. SO HAD I DECIDED THAT I COULD HAVE BEEN DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT ON MY WEEKENDS. SO I DO, I THINK, AND LATER ON IN LIFE, HE DECIDED TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND BECOME THAT NONTRADITIONAL STUDENT. AND HE'S AN AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER NOW. BUT THERE'S SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY THAT CAN BE TAKEN BY YOUTH. AND I JUST THINK THAT YOU DON'T ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, DON'T ALWAYS THINK IT IS WHAT MAYBE SOMEONE TELLS YOU IT IS BECAUSE HAD I LISTENED, OR HAD I NOT LISTENED TO MY PEERS AT THE TIME, I COULD HAVE COULD HAVE BEEN MAKING MORE MONEY THAN I. I DID IN MY 20S, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAD. OTHER THAN OTHER THAN THAT. YEAH. HAVE A GREAT EVENING TO EVERYONE. I'M ACTUALLY I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO SKIP DOWN TO MR. BORDNER THEN WORK MY WAY BACK, SO. OKAY. NO, I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT. A GREAT EVENT TONIGHT. UPTOWN. I THINK NEXT YEAR I'LL WEAR A JACKET. IT'S A LITTLE. YOU GUYS ARE ALL YOU'VE DONE THIS A WHILE, SO. BUT IT WAS A LITTLE BIT CHILLY. BUT IT WAS A GOOD, GOOD ATMOSPHERE AND GOOD TO SEE THE TURNOUT. SO THANK YOU, MR. WOLF. I HAD SOMEONE REMARKED TO ME TONIGHT, AS YOU KNOW, THE SNOW WAS FALLING AND EVERYONE'S COMING UPTOWN FOR THE TREE LIGHTING, THAT IT FELT LIKE A HALLMARK TOWN IN THE HISTORIC UPTOWN AREA. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY FITTING FOR THOSE KIND OF EVENTS THAT WE DO AS A COMMUNIT.

GETTING TOGETHER AND DOING THIS, THE CARE TRAIN, DOING ALL THAT STUFF. YOU KNOW, AS THE CITY GROWS AND CHANGES, IT'S STILL WE STILL FIND WAYS TO KEEP THAT SMALL TOWN FEEL. AND I ESPECIALLY THINK THE TREE LIGHTING IS ONE OF THOSE, ESPECIALLY DURING, YOU KNOW, MY FAVORITE SEASON. BUT THANK YOU, MR. BURBANK. OKAY. AND I THINK YOU ALREADY MENTIONED IT, BUT I WANT TO ECHO WHAT MR. RAMOS, FOR THE HOPE EVENT FOR THURSDAY. I KNOW IT'S SORT OF INTERFERES.

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SO, ERIC, LOOK FOR US EARLY TO ARRIVE SO THAT WE CAN STILL MAKE THE 530 TO GO TO RIDGEWOOD. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO BOTH EVENTS ON THURSDAY NIGHT. SO YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO PERSONALLY AND I KNOW ALL OF US ON COUNCIL AND EVERYBODY IN HERE WANTED TO THANK YOU, MR. ROSS, FOR NOT ONLY ATTENDING THE WHOLE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, BUT ALSO WILLINGNESS TO SERVE ON DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AND WE KNOW THAT YOU'LL BE AN ASSET TO US AND THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL CAREER IS ONLY GOING TO JUST CREATE A BETTER MARYSVILLE FOR ALL OF US. SO I THANK YOU. AND I AND I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THAT MR. BURBY INVITED ME TO GO TO THE PARADE WITH HIM ON SUNDAY, AND HE HAD HIS GRANDCHILDREN WITH HIM THIS, THIS TIME IN THE BACK SEAT. AND IT WAS A LOT OF FUN. I LOVE DOING THOSE THINGS. HE INVITED ME TO GO OUT WITH HIM A LONG TIME AGO, AND WE'VE KIND OF KEPT THAT TRADITION, BUT I ALWAYS ENJOY THE PARADE AND YELLING OUT THE CAR WINDOW AND THROWING CANDY AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, WITH THE TREE LIGHTING TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE OFTEN I OFTEN WE ALL DO I'M SURE READ COMMENTS.

YOU KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE IN THIS COMMUNITY. BUT I THINK OVERALL I THINK WE ALL TRY VERY HARD TO DO DO OUR BEST TO ENSURE THAT MARYSVILLE IS A GREAT PLACE TO BE. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY RESIDENTS WANT TO LIVE HERE. SO, YOU KNOW, IN IN THE END, YOU KNOW, ALL THE GROUNDWORK THAT WE HAVE DONE AND, AND PAST COUNCILS HAVE DONE TO CREATE US IN WHERE WE ARE TODAY. THAT IS WELCOMING NEW RESIDENTS IN I THINK, IS A POSITIVE FOR ALL OF US. SO ON THAT NOTE, IS THERE STILL A NEED TO GO INTO OKAY, MR. PRESIDENT, MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. ALL IN FAVOR? I

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