Jan 27, 2025 City Council

[CALL TO ORDER]

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HELLO, EVERYBODY. I WANT TO WELCOME YOU ALL TO THE JANUARY 27TH MARYSVILLE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, AND THEN WE'LL STAY STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ALMIGHTY GOD, WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND ITS CITIZENS. AMEN. ROLL CALL PLEASE. ZACH BORDNER HERE. STEVEN WOLF HERE. HANK BURBY PRESENT. DONALD BERGER HERE. SCOTT HUNTER HERE.

MARK RHEIMS PRESENT. AND THERE'S ONE VACANT CITY COUNCIL MEMBER SEAT. IS THERE ANY CORRECTIONS

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[APPOINTMENTS]

HANK. HANK. BURBY. MARK. REAMES. ZACH. GARDNER AND CHAIR. NOMINATION WILL BE COUNCILMAN BORDNER. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU. IF YOU IF YOU'RE ABLE TO GET THAT ROLL. PUBLIC PUBLIC SERVICE, PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE COMMITTEE, THERE IS A VACANCY BECAUSE WE HAVE A VACANCY ON COUNCIL. BUT IT'S SCOTT HUNTER AND STEVEN WOLF. AND THE NOMINATION CHAIR WILL BE SCOTT HUNTER. AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH OF YOU. CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU. IF YOU'RE ABLE TO GET IT. APPOINT. APPOINTMENTS AS MYSELF. DONALD BURGER AS PRESIDENT OF COUNCIL WOULD BE TO THE BOARD OF CONTROL AND THE COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT.

CORPORATION, THE CIC PRESIDENT OF COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS LOGAN UNION, CHAMPAIGN PLANNING COMMISSION LUKE HENK BERBEE, OHIO DORMITORY FOR WOMEN SCOTT HUNTER, BOARD OF CONTROL DESIGNEE. IN THE ABSENCE OF PRESIDENT OF COUNCIL SCOTT HUNTER, CEMETERY ADVISORY BOARD TWO YEAR ASSIGNMENT STEVEN WOLF. UNION COUNTY DRUG FREE COALITION ADVISORY BOARD STEVEN HUNTER SCOTT HUNTER, WHICH WILL NEED A VOICE VOTE. SO WOULD THAT BE ALL IN FAVOR? I THANK YOU. CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION THROUGH 1231 30. AND I WOULD ASK AMANDA FULL RIGHT. WIDER. DID I PRONOUNCE THAT CORRECTLY? MADAM? YOU OKAY? I WOULD JUST HAVE YOU RISE. AND I WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO HAVE A VOICE VOTE. SO ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. THANK YOU. AND CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.

COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA, HOUSING COUNCIL, HANK BURBEE AND SCOTT HUNTER. VOICE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS, DEPENDENT FUN BOARD. MARK REAMS AND HANK BURBY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. UNION COUNTY TAX INCENTIVE REVIEW. COUNCIL CITY MANAGER TO APPOINT BRAD LUTZ AND HANK BURBY WITH THE CONFIRMATION OF LEGISLATION AUTHORITY, WHICH IS COUNCIL. AM I MISSING SOMETHING? AND IT NEEDS TO BE DONE BY THE CITY MANAGER. OKAY. GO AHEAD.

OKAY. MY BAD. APPOINTMENT OF BRAD LUTZ. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S IT. OKAY. SO AND SO. AN APPOINTMENT OF FROM ADMINISTRATION. THE APPOINTMENT FROM MR. LUTZ. AND THEN ALSO MR. BURBY, DO WE HAVE. I'M JUST GOING TO DO A VOICE VOTE, SO ALL IN FAVOR? I. ADMINISTRATION

[ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]

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I HEARD YOU APPOINT YOURSELF. OKAY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

ADMINISTRATION REPORT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. IT'S A IT'S A PLEASURE TONIGHT. AS. WILLIAM.

SALLY. BILL. SALLY, TO COME UP FORWARD HERE, IF YOU WOULD. AND BRIAN STANKO, WOULD YOU COME UP? AMANDA, YOU GOT BIG SHOES TO FILL. I HOPE I HAVE HEARD, I HAVE HEARD. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

THIS IS A CERTIFICATE OF COMMENDATION PRESENTED TO WILLIAM SALLY. THIS CERTIFICATE OF COMMENDATION IS IN RECOGNITION OF YOUR GRACIOUS AND EXCEPTIONAL CONTRIBUTIONS AS A CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION MEMBER OVER THE LAST 14.5 YEARS. YOU WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROCTORING OVER 100 CITY SERVICE TASKS FOR LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF CANDIDATES WANTING TO JOIN OUR WORKFORCE. YOU SET THE HIGHEST STANDARD, HIGHEST LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM AND PROVIDED AN OUTSTANDING FIRST IMPRESSION TO THESE CANDIDATES. YOU PROFESSIONALLY REPRESENTED THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION AS A CRITICAL MEMBER OF OUR INTERVIEWING TEAM FOR THOUSANDS OF INTERVIEWS. YOU HAVE HELPED US HIRE RIGHT AND ESTABLISH OUR HIGH COMPETENT, HIGHLY COMPETENT WORKFORCE. THIS HAS ALSO TAKEN THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE OUR CITIZENS TO EVEN GREATER HEIGHTS. SO REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE EXPRESSES OUR GRATITUDE FOR YOUR EXEMPLARY PERFORMANCE. YOUR DEDICATION TO EXCELLENCE REFLECTS WELL ON OUR CITY. WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE HAD YOUR SERVICES AS A VALUABLE MEMBER OF THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND COMMITMENT TO THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, TO ALL OF ITS EMPLOYEES AND TO ITS CITIZENS. AND THANK YOU AGAIN, BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WANTING TO STEP OUT OF OUR HR DEPARTMENT OBVIOUSLY WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH BILL AND BRIAN. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD THAT JUST ABOUT SAID? WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE BECAUSE BILL WENT THROUGH A LONG CAREER AS AN HR AT A FEW ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING NESTLE'S. SO WE HIRED HIM WHEN HE WAS ALREADY WELL COOKED AND WELL LEARNED AT THE HR PROFESSION. AND ONE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENED, WE WERE JUST REMINISCING ABOUT THIS USED TO BE THAT THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION, WHEN I GOT HERE, THERE WAS A FEW OF YOU THAT WERE HERE BACK THEN. THEY ACTUALLY USED TO DO THE SELECTION. THEY USED TO DO THE INTERVIEWS AND PICK THE PEOPLE AND THEN GIVE THEM TO THE MANAGERS. AND IT WAS AN AWKWARD TIME, SO WE WERE ABLE TO FINALLY SWITCH THAT. IT TOOK US ABOUT SIX YEARS TO DO THAT. MARK REMEMBERS THAT. AND THEN EARLY ON, BILL AT THE TABLE, THEY STILL LOOK AT HIM AND GO, ARE WE OKAY TO HIRE THIS PERSON? AND BILL WOULD GO, YEAH, YOU CAN HIRE THIS PERSON BECAUSE OF HIS AUTHORITY AND HIM HAVING THAT BACKGROUND, WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE AWAY FROM THAT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, BILL. WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU. I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY IT'S BEEN A REAL PRIVILEGE WORKING WITH MANY OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT AND, AND THE STAFF MEMBERS DURING ALL THOSE INTERVIEWS AND, AND TEST NIGHTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. TRULY A PROFESSIONAL AND DEDICATED STAFF AND ESPECIALLY THE AIR STAFF. WE LEARNED A LOT FROM EACH OTHER. I THINK DURING THAT TIME I'M FROM FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR, LEARNING A LOT FROM THE PUBLIC SECTOR, BUT THE CITY IS TRULY BLESSED TO HAVE A GROUP OF PROFESSIONAL AND TALENTED MANAGERS LIKE YOU HAVE. MAKES US REALLY HAPPY TO LIVE IN MARYSVILLE. THANKS FOR HELPING US GET THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BILL. YOU'RE WELCOME.

APPRECIATE IT. TAKE CARE. OKAY. I'VE GOT A FEW OTHER ITEMS I WOULD LIKE TO, IF I COULD JUST SAY ONE MOMENT. YES. YOU KNOW, TO THE SERVICE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE, YOU KNOW. THANK YOU.

BECAUSE IT'S RESIDENTS LIKE YOU WHO MAKE COUNCIL'S JOB. JOB A LITTLE BIT EASIER. SO WE THANK YOU AND GOOD LUCK TO YOUR NEXT PHASE OF YOUR LIFE, WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LET ME STEP IN AND WE'LL ACTUALLY GET INTO A COUPLE INDIVIDUALS HERE IN A SECOND. BUT AFTER AFTER 43 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE AS OUR STREET SUPERINTENDENT, JOE TRACY, RETIRED ON JANUARY 17TH. TO EFFECTIVELY ADDRESS THE INCREASED WORKLOAD AND EVOLVING NEEDS WITHIN OUR PUBLIC SERVICES, WE HAVE, AND WITH JOE'S HELP, WE HAVE RESTRUCTURED

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COREY BEGAN HIS CAREER WITH THE CITY IN THE WATER DIVISION IN 1998, AND TRANSITIONED TO THE STREETS DIVISION IN 2005. HE WAS PROMOTED TO STORMWATER SANITATION FOREMAN IN 2021, AND HAS NOW BEEN APPOINTED AS THE STORMWATER SANITATION SUPERINTENDENT. HE LEADS A TEAM OF SIX FULL TIME AND MULTIPLE PART TIME EMPLOYEES AS WELL. SO THESE THESE GUYS, BOTH BRIAN AND COREY, HAVE GOTTEN THEMSELVES IN THIS POSITION AND THEY EXEMPLIFY THE CORE VALUES OF OUR CITY IN THEIR DAILY WORK. AND OBVIOUSLY, THEY SHOWED THAT TO JOE IN THE TIME LEADING UP TO JOE'S RETIREMENT. WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT THEY WILL EFFECTIVELY LEAD THEIR RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENTS, ENSURING CONTINUE HIGH QUALITY PUBLIC SERVICES FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND THE MAIN REASON I WANTED TO BRING HIM IN. THESE GUYS ARE INSTRUMENTAL, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE HAVING THINGS GO ON WITHIN OUR STREETS, WHETHER IT'S WHETHER IT'S STORMWATER, SANITATION, WHETHER IT'S ON THE STREETS THEMSELVES, THESE GUYS ARE THE PEOPLE DOING THE JOB. I WANTED YOU TO MEET HIM TONIGHT, SEE THEIR SMILING FACES. I ASK EITHER ONE OF THEM, DO YOU GUYS, DO YOU GUYS WANT TO ADD ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING? AND IF YOU DO, YOU GOT TO GO TO THE PODIUM. SO BRIAN. LONG TIME LISTENER, FIRST TIME CALLER HERE. I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY ON ON TERRY, JEREMY, AND BRAD. THEY WERE ALL INSTRUMENTAL IN MAKING THIS SPLIT HAPPEN. I THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME FOR HAVING THE CITY BEFORE. AND I WE'VE GOT. THE GAINESVILLE FOR 43 YEARS. WE'VE GOT OVER 50 YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION EXPERIENCE AND I THINK EVERYBODY WILL. BE IN GOOD HANDS. AND WE PLAN ON THIS BEING A SEAMLESS TRANSITION. WHAT'S WORKED FOR 43 YEARS. YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL WORKED. SO THANKS TO EVERYBODY THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED GETTING US GETTING US WHAT HAPPENED AND KEEP THE CITY GROWING. SO THANKS. THANK YOU BRIAN. COREY WHAT DO YOU THINK? I AGREE WITH BRIAN. THANK YOU GUYS FOR EVERYBODY TO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN US AND WE CAN MAKE YOU PROUD. IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE AS WELL. HOPEFULLY WE'RE HERE FOR A WHILE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. YOU KNOW, PART OF THE PART OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF A DIVISION HEAD, A DIRECTOR AND EXECUTIVE STAFF PERSON IS TO SET UP THEIR SUCCESSION PLANNING AND HAVE THAT SEAMLESS TRANSITION. AND WE TASK ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR EXECUTIVE STAFF TO THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THEIR ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY. AND I JUST WANT TO AGAIN, THANK JOE TRACY BECAUSE I THINK HE'S DONE JUST THAT WITH BOTH COREY AND BRIAN. AND I. LOOK, I REALLY ENJOY LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU GUYS FOR SEVERAL YEARS TO COME. THANK YOU AGAIN. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. IT'S NOT EASY TO GET THOSE GUYS HERE EITHER. YOU YOU GUYS, YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND. SO IT'S. I DO HAVE JUST ONE

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IT'S WE'LL CALL A MEETING TO ORDER AND I'LL HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF COUNCIL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER, AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO THE STATE OF THE CITY THAT EVENING. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. WITH THAT, I'LL SHIFT DOWN TO JEREMY. YEAH. THANKS, TERRY. ON THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS SIDE, CITY STREET CREWS LED BY BRIAN CONTINUE TO WORK ON POTHOLES AND SNOW AND ICE REMOVAL. TO DATE, CITY CREWS HAVE USED 866 TONS OF SALT. ENCOMPASSING 740 OPERATOR HOURS, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY IS ABOUT 75% HIGHER THAN OUR PREVIOUS AVERAGES FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS. BUT HOPEFULLY, I GUESS, KNOCK ON, KNOCK ON WOOD. HOPEFULLY WE'RE DONE WITH SNOW EVENTS FOR AT LEAST THE TIME BEING. PARKS. THE CITY CREWS ARE INSTALLING A PULL UP BAR AT MILL VALLEY CENTRAL. AND FOCUSING ON LITTER WITHIN THE PARKS. URBAN FORESTRY CONTINUES WITH YOUNG TREE TRAINING AND EVENTS. IS WORKING ON UPCOMING SPONSORSHIPS. NEXT WEEK, MOST OF THE PARKS DIVISION WILL BE ATTENDING THE ANNUAL OPRAH CONFERENCE NEXT WEEK, SO WE'LL MAKE SURE SOMEBODY IS HOLDING DOWN THE FORT. BUT IT SHOULD BE A SKELETON CREW, SO TO SPEAK.

CITY WATER CREWS CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE PARK AVENUE WATER LINE REPLACEMENT PROJECT. AND WITH THE HELP OF SCOTT SHEPHERD, WE CONTINUE TO COORDINATE AN ADDITIONAL INTERCONNECT WITH TELCO WATER FOR REDUNDANCY PURPOSES. AND FINALLY, OUR WASTEWATER CREWS CONTINUE TO PERFORM ROUTINE MAINTENANCE MAINTENANCE ON INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN OUR PUMP STATIONS AND AT THE ROOF. AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. THAT CONCLUDES OUR ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT. UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. JEREMY, I KNOW WE WERE KIND OF WAITING ON THE MANUFACTURER FOR THE STREET LIGHTS AND WHATNOT ON 31. DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATE ON WHEN THEY'RE HOPING TO GET THOSE IN TO GET THE STREET LIGHTS AND THE STOP LIGHTS WORKING? THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. I'LL HAVE TO DEFER TO KYLE. SO I'LL, I'LL I'LL ASK HIM OR I'LL TEXT HIM AS SOON AS I GET OFF OF THIS AND SEE IF I CAN HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU BY THE END OF THE NIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE THE BOTH OF YOU. YOU KNOW, JOE TRACY, YOU KNOW, FOR 43 YEARS TO BE IN PUBLIC SERVICE FOR THAT LONG IS, NO MATTER WHERE YOU SERVE IN PUBLIC SERVICE, THAT'S A LONG TIME TO DEDICATE YOURSELF TO THE PUBLIC. BUT WITH EVERY NEW PERSON COMES NEW IDEAS. AND IT'S SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT YOU CAN OFFER AND BRING TO THE TABLE FOR NOT ONLY COUNCIL, BUT ADMINISTRATION, BUT ALSO THE RESIDENTS THAT YOU DO SERVE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH TO BOTH. THANK YOU. REPORT OF CLERK OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE SOMETHING

[REPORT OF CLERK OF COUNCIL]

DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY CONCERNS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK. YOU'RE GOOD. THANK YOU. PLANNING

[PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT]

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AND YES, WE ALL LIKE, LIKE FOR IT TO SUCCEED, BUT IT SHOULD SUCCEED IN A PROPER MANNER.

YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK. I WILL RELAY THAT TO PLANNING COMMISSION. OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY STATEMENT? NO. THE ONLY STATEMENT THAT I, I HAVE IS THE ONLY THING THAT CONCERNS ME IS THAT THE UPTOWN AREA, WHICH I CALL EVERYTHING THAT IS THE ORIGINAL GRID TO THE CITY, THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IS THAT YOU HAVE YOUR LARGEST HOMES WITHIN THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT TURNING INTO NONPROFITS OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO DO THAT DOESN'T ATTAIN RESIDENTIAL STATUS. YOU KNOW THIS HOME. THERE'S THE HOUSE ON WEST FIFTH STREET. THE, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS 22,000FT■!S,I BELIEVE. WHEN IT WAS BUILT, IT WAS BUILT AS THE LARGEST HOME IN UNION COUNTY. YOU KNOW, I WOULD QUESTION IT MIGHT STILL BE THE LARGEST HOME IN UNION COUNTY.

MAYBE. BUT THE ONLY THING THAT GIVES ME PAUSE IS THAT WE AS A CITY, HAVE TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE CREATING AN UPTOWN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO INVEST IN THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSING STOCK,

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[DESIGN REVIEW BOARD REPORT]

THEY ARE ANTICIPATING COMING BACK TO THE FEBRUARY MEETING WITH THEIR ARCHITECTURE. SO WE SHOULD SEE THEM BACK HERE IN FEBRUARY. THE NEXT ITEM WAS A SIGN IN THE UPTOWN AT THE HOWARD HANNA LOCATION. THAT ITEM WAS TABLED SEVEN. YES. ZERO. NO. AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE ON THE AGENDA ALSO FOR FEBRUARY. THE NEXT ITEM WE HAD WAS FOR ANOTHER PROJECTING SIGN AT 108 SOUTH MAIN STREET. THIS IS GOING TO BE A NEW LOCATION FOR TRUST HOUSE. WHICH IS A RESTAURANT. THAT WAS APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS SEVEN. YES. ZERO. NO. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS OUT AT OUR COOKS POINT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS FOR KIDDY ACADEMY DAYCARE. APPROVED. SEVEN. YES.

ZERO. NO. THE NEXT ITEM WAS FOR PROJECT COSMOS. OUT AT INNOVATION WAY AT OUR INNOVATION PARK. ALSO APPROVED SEVEN. YES. ZERO. NO. WE HAD A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. MARYSVILLE EAST FOR SECTION ONE OF THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS CALLED FOUNDRY 33. WAS APPROVED SEVEN.

YES. ZERO. NO. AND THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA WAS A REQUEST FOR DEMOLITION OF THE HOMETOWN AUTO SITE. THAT'S AT 120 SOUTH PLUM STREET THAT HAS BEEN TABLED AND WE ARE BRINGING BACK SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND REPORTS ON THAT ONE. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

YEAH. OKAY. PROJECT COSMO IS ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. YEAH. ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS WHEN IT COMES TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING, AS WELL AS THE DESIGN REVIEW? HAVE THOSE ALREADY BEEN MET AND SIGNED OFF? YES THEY HAVE. THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION AND NOW THEY HAVE BEEN THROUGH DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. SO ON ON OUR END FROM THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, THEY HAVE SATISFIED THOSE ITEMS. THEY HAVE SATISFIED THOSE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY.

[HEARING OF CITIZENS]

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BUT THEN DOWN THE ROAD, AS SOON AS WE ROUND UP 50,000 BUCKS, PUT IN A PARKING LOT, CAN HANDLE ANOTHER 20 CARS. OKAY, THE OTHER THING WAS ME PUTTING ON MY ECONOMICS PROFESSOR HAT, AND WE HEAR A LOT OF TALK ABOUT HOUSING NOT BEING AFFORDABLE AND A LOT OF TALK ABOUT TOO MANY APARTMENTS COMING IN. WELL, THE ONLY WAY YOU BRING PRICES DOWN IS TO INCREASE THE SUPPLY SO THAT THERE'S PRESSURE ON PRICES TO COME DOWN. SO IF YOU GUYS HAVE APARTMENT COMPLEXES OR ANY HOUSING COMING THROUGH, IF YOU INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF HOUSING THAT'S AVAILABLE, YOU WILL APPLY DOWNWARD PRESSURE ON THE RENTS. SO THINK OF THAT WHEN YOU APPROVE SOMETHING, ALL YOU'RE DOING IS PUSHING RENTS DOWN. SO THE RENTS ARE ONLY HIGH BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH HOUSING TO GO AROUND. I'M TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO GET PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO RENT THE PLACE FOR 800 BUCKS A MONTH, BUT IT'S PRETTY DIFFICULT. SO THE ONLY WAY THAT WE'RE AND OF COURSE, THERE'S NO DEVELOPERS HERE TONIGHT. SO. BUT DEVELOPERS WANT TO KNOW THEY CAN STILL GET THEIR 1500 TO $1800 A MONTH RENT ON ANYTHING THEY BUILD. WE REALLY NEED TO CREATE ENOUGH SUPPLY THAT WE CAN GET SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN HERE. SO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU HAVE PROJECTS COMING ACROSS THE TABLE THAT INCREASE SUPPLY. IS YOUR FRIEND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? HEARING NONE.

[Res. A]

OKAY, SO WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE FACADE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AT WORK SESSION A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. SO WE'VE BEEN BRAINSTORMING WITH SOME OF OUR DRB MEMBERS ON THIS ITEM. THAT'S THAT'S IT ON OUR REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR THOSE APPLICATIONS. AND WE WORKED THROUGH THE ELIGIBLE PROJECTS, AND WE ALSO ADDED IN SOME ADDITIONAL TEXT ABOUT THE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE GOING TO PERFORM THOSE PROJECTS. SO I'LL WALK THROUGH THESE TWO ITEMS WITH YOU. AND THIS KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS ON THE AMENDMENT FOR THIS YEAR'S FACADE GRANT. SO THE ITEMS IN RED HAVE BEEN REVISED. SO THIS ONE IN GREEN HERE, THE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE AND YOU SAY PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE SITE AND LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS. WE'VE REMOVED THE LANDSCAPE PORTION. WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT MEETS THE INTEGRITY OF THE FACADE GRANT, BUT WE ARE STILL ALLOWING THE ACCESSIBLE SITE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE NEXT ONE. REAR. INSIDE WE ADDED IN BUILDING, INSTEAD OF SAYING PROPERTY, WE WANTED IT TO FOCUS FOCUS ON THE BUILDING. SO WE'VE ADDED IN BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS. THIS WAS KIND OF A DUPLICATE, THESE THIS STUCCO AND MASONRY AND THEN MASONRY REPLACEMENT. SO WE'VE SCRATCHED OUT THAT ONE REPAIR OF FACADE. THIS IS

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YEAH. NOW I RECOGNIZE THE VALUE OR THE INTENT BEHIND THAT. BUT WHAT'S YOUR VIEWPOINT AS IT RELATES TO MAYBE OUR CODE AND ENFORCING, YOU KNOW, THAT OLD SIGN? YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST SAY ME, YOU KNOW, THE OWNER. I'M I'M NOT GOING TO I'M NOT ABLE TO GET FUNDING TO TAKE DOWN AN OLD SIGN. SO I'M JUST YOU'RE JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT THERE, LEAVE IT THERE OR, YOU KNOW, BRING IT DOWN MYSELF AND IT MIGHT NOT BE PRETTY. DO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, REALLY WE KIND OF WE THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE IN THE UPTOWN RIGHT NOW, AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY OF THOSE SIGNS LEFT THAT HAVE BEEN UP THERE FOR 50 YEARS. WE WE'RE NOT AT THAT POINT ANYMORE. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WE FELT LIKE THAT BULLET JUST DIDN'T REALLY APPLY TO THIS ANYMORE. SO RELATIVELY COMFORTABLE WITH. YEAH. AND WE DO HAVE AN ITEM AT THE BOTTOM, ADDITIONAL PROJECTS TO BE CONSIDERED AT THE CITY'S DISCRETION. SO WE FELT LIKE IF THERE WAS A SITUATION WE COULD SAY, OKAY, WE NEED TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO THIS APPLICANT. SO THAT'S THERE IN CASE SOME ODD ONE OFF, YOU KNOW, SITUATION COMES UP THAT WE CAN STILL EVALUATE THAT ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS. OKAY. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS GOING TO BE RELATED TO THE ALUMINUM EXCLUDING ALUMINUM STOREFRONTS. HOW DO WE GOVERN THAT? I MEAN IS THAT A DRB THING WHERE. YES, CORRECT.

THROUGH DESIGN REVIEW. YEP. THE MATERIALS ARE OUTLINED AND YES. OKAY. GOT IT. THANKS SO MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? YES. OKAY. PROBABLY NEXT TIME AT THE HEARING OF CITIZENS.

OH, YEAH. TONIGHT IS TONIGHT. NO, SORRY. THIS IS A RESOLUTION, SO. WELL, IT'S FIRST READING.

ITS FIRST READING. FIRST READING. SO. YEAH. BUT FEBRUARY 10TH. OKAY. ANYWAY, THE QUESTION THAT I HAD THAT'S REALLY A LONG, LONG TIME QUESTION. YEAH. IF WE LOOK AT THE SEVERAL BUILDINGS IN

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FORTUNATELY, THE COMPANY DECIDED TO STAY IN TOWN. THEY HAD A BUDGET OF ABOUT HALF A MILLION.

BY THE TIME IT WAS DONE, IT WAS FAR IN EXCESS OF $1 MILLION, MIND YOU, THAT THEY DID PUT IN AN ELEVATOR, WHICH INCREASED THE COST CONSIDERABLY. THEN IF WE GO EAST ON FIFTH STREET, OF COURSE, THE MEXICAN RESTAURANT THAT USED TO BE AT THE CORNER THERE OF THE ALLEY, IT IMPLODED. THEN IF WE GO ON SOUTH MAIN STREET, WHERE NOW THE AVALON IS, IT WAS A BUILDING THAT DURING CONSTRUCTION IMPLODED. YEAH. SO THAT THAT THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT CONCERN ME. YEAH.

BECAUSE WE COULD WORK ON THE FACADE. YEAH, BUT IS THE FACADE WHERE THE ISSUES ARE? SO IF YOU LOOK, IF YOU LOOK TODAY. YEAH, WE COULD SAY THE FIFTH AND COURT BUILDING. YEAH. THE, THE COUNTY BUILDING THAT IS ACROSS THE CORNER UP HERE, THE CO-WORKING SPACE. YEAH. THE BUILT USED TO BE SOME OF US OLDER PEOPLE KNOW IT AS THE LAMPLIGHTER. AND THEN WE OF COURSE NOW WE HAVE THE ELKS HAS BEEN IMPROVED AND I THINK IT HAS BEEN STABILIZED. AND ALSO THE AVALON HAS BEEN FULLY REBUILT, BUT IN TOTAL, IF WE LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE, THERE ARE EIGHT ON EACH SIDE. WE HAVE EIGHT SITES. SO THAT MEANS WE HAVE 64 UNITS OUT THERE. YEAH. BETWEEN SOUTH, EAST, NORTH AND WEST. SO ROUGHLY MAYBE 60 BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE MORE. WE HAVE SOME OF THEM THAT WE HAVE LOST THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS. WE HAVE PUT IN THIS YEAR AGAIN, WE ALLOCATE 200, WHICH IS A 50% MATCH. SO 400,000. SO I WOULD SAY OVER THE LAST 7 OR 8 YEARS WE'VE BEEN NORTH OF $3 MILLION.

YEAH. STRUCTURALLY ARE WE MAKING INROADS. ARE WE STABILIZING THE BUILDINGS OR ARE WE JUST FIXING THE OUTSIDE AND THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE. YEAH. ARE THOSE GOING TO BE SUSTAINABLE LONG TERM? WHICH OF COURSE, THEN AGAIN, IF WE WERE TO FIX EVERY BUILDING AND EVERY BUILDING WOULD COST US $1 MILLION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HAD TO PAY, THEN WE COULD NOT AFFORD TO RUN BUSINESS BECAUSE THE APARTMENT COST WOULD BE SO HIGH, THE STOREFRONTS WOULD BE SO HIGH. SO IT'S A CATCH 22. YEAH. AND FROM FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE AND GOING AROUND, HOW WOULD YOU ASSESS THE STABILITY OF ALL THE BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE DOWNTOWN? ARE THEY ARE THEY SAFE BUILDINGS FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE THERE? AND I CAN IMAGINE THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT LOOKS AT THAT AT TIMES. BUT WHAT'S WHAT'S YOUR ASSESSMENT OF THE DOWNTOWN? I HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. IT'S OKAY. SO WHEN WE DID OUR LAST UPDATES, I THINK THAT WAS 2023. GOING INTO THE 2023 PROGRAM YEAR, WE DECIDED TO MAKE THE REQUIREMENT TO ALLOCATE 20% OF THAT FUNDING, AT LEAST 20% OF THAT FUNDING TO. DIRECTLY REMEDIATE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE VIOLATIONS. AND WE ALSO ADDED THIS SECOND TO LAST BULLET HERE, IMPROVEMENT OF LIFE SAFETY CONDITIONS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, ELECTRICAL ROOF OR OTHER STRUCTURAL BUILDING ELEMENTS. WE HAVE HAD PROBABLY 90% OF OUR APPLICATIONS THE LAST TWO YEARS QUALIFY UNDER THAT IMPROVEMENT FOR LIFE SAFETY CONDITIONS. MORE SO THAN LET'S FIX THIS, THIS STEP OUT FRONT. SO THEY'VE BEEN MORE INTERNAL. I FEEL LIKE RELATED THINGS ALSO WITH SOME EXTERNAL IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL. BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT MORE FOCUS ON LET'S SAVE THAT STRUCTURE AND MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO A SITUATION THAT IT'S GOING TO COLLAPSE. OKAY. SO WE ARE SERIOUSLY FOCUSING ON THE INSIDE AS WELL AS ON THE OUTSIDE. AND IF IN OUR CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE WITH APPLICANTS, IF THEY COME TO US FOR PAINTING THE

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SO WE'VE BEEN HAVING THOSE MORE IN-DEPTH CONVERSATIONS WITH APPLICANTS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CHECKING ALL THE CRITICAL PARTS OF THAT FIRST. OKAY. ALRIGHTY. AND I DON'T SEE IT HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE IT. WHAT WHAT ARE THE ELIGIBILITY WEEKS OR DATES THAT WE NEED TO WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND DETERMINE THAT. SO WHEN WE COME BACK AT OUR NEXT READING WE'LL HAVE THAT FIGURED OUT. BUT TYPICALLY WE WILL LET THEM. WE USUALLY START APPLICATIONS. I WOULD SAY THE DEADLINE WILL PROBABLY END UP BEING IN APRIL FOR THOSE APPLICATIONS. YEAH OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. THAT'S ALL THAT I HAD. ANYBODY ELSE THE ONLY THE ONLY COMMENT I'LL SAY ABOUT THIS IS KIND OF THE SAME THING WITH THE SCOTS HOME IS THE UPTOWN. STILL, AFTER ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'VE DONE AND ALL THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE SPENT AS A COMMUNITY IS STILL ONE OF THE CHEAPEST PLACES TO BUY. YOU KNOW, YOU COULD BUY A WHOLE BUILDING, I THINK, FOR 274,000, WHICH IS WHAT SQUARE FOOTAGE WISE, IS VERY MUCH CHEAPER THAN BUYING A HOME IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. WE KNOW THE AREA IS CHEAP BECAUSE THE, THE RESTAURANT THAT YOU WERE, YOU WERE SPEAKING OF THAT COLLAPSE. THE BUILDING HAS BEEN THE BUILDING THAT WAS NOT LEVELED IS STILL STANDING VACANT SINCE THE DERECHO, WHICH WAS YEARS BEFORE I WAS EVER ON COUNCIL. SO, YOU KNOW, AS A COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO ENFORCE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND CODES BECAUSE WHAT IT IS, IS IT'S CHEAPER FOR SOMEONE TO LEAVE SOMETHING VACANT IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE THAN IT IS TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT. AND WE KNOW THERE'S RESIDENTIAL HOMES IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. IF YOU DRIVE AROUND TOWN THAT ARE VACANT. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL CHEAPER AND THE ENFORCEMENT OF PROPERTY MAINTENANCE NEEDS TO COME STRONGER BECAUSE YOU SHOULD BE IT SHOULD BE TOO EXPENSIVE FOR YOU TO LEAVE YOUR BUILDING VACANT, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS AND WE SAW IT IN DESIGN REVIEW BOARD DENIED IT, BUT THAT THE OWNER OF THAT BUILDING WANTED TO LEVEL IT BECAUSE IT WAS TOO COSTLY TO RENOVATE THAN IT WAS TO THAN THAN WHAT IT'S WORTH. YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS HAD A PROBLEM WITH DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY SHOULD NEVER ALLOW. AND SADLY, YOU DRIVE THROUGH THE UPTOWN AND THERE'S A BUILDING, THE GLASS BROTHERS, THAT'S IN TERRIBLE CONDITION.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE TO YOUR POINT, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS DONE. AND WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY. AND ARE WE GETTING BETTER? YES, BUT WE HAVE TO. WE HAVE TO WALK THE UPTOWN, LOOK AT THE UPTOWN. AND THAT BUILDING IS A PRIME EXAMPLE, THAT IT'S CHEAPER TO LEAVE A BUILDING VACANT THAN IT IS TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT. AND IT NOT ONLY HURTS THE BOTTOM LINE THE TAXPAYER, BUT IT HURTS SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. YOU KNOW, YOU WHEN YOU HAVE A SUCCESSFUL UPTOWN, YOU HAVE NO VACANCIES. AND WHAT YOU DEFINITELY DON'T HAVE IS A VACANT BUILDING. AT A TIME WHEN PEOPLE ARE TELLING US THAT WE NEED MORE HOUSING, WE NEED MORE APARTMENTS, WE NEED MORE OF THIS. YOU HAVE BUILDINGS IN THE UPTOWN THAT ARE BEING VACANT FOR 20 PLUS YEARS. AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO INVEST, SO IT'S STILL A PET PEEVE OF MINE AND WE WILL STILL PUSH THROUGH. MR. PRESIDENT, IF I COULD JUST IF YOU PUT IN PERSPECTIVE AND LOOK BACK TEN, 12 YEARS, LOOK BACK TEN, 12 YEARS, WHEN THE BP GAS STATION WAS STILL THERE, WHEN NAPA AUTO PARTS WAS STILL THERE, THE LEON SITE, WHEN THE AVALON, IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE WHAT THE AVALON LOOKED LIKE BACK IN THE DAY, OF COURSE, YOU MENTIONED MCCARTHY AND COX'S BACK TEN, 12 YEARS AGO, THAT THAT WAS MUCH LESS TO TODAY. IT'S RAISING THE BAR AND I'M TELLING YOU WHEN CONNECT SPENDS $100 MILLION IN THE NORTH END OF OUR UPTOWN, IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO ELEVATE THE PROPERTIES IN OUR UPTOWN TO A HIGHER LEVEL. EVEN THE WORK THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ON THE HOMETOWN AUTO SITE SOON, THIS YEAR WILL CONTINUE TO CLEAN UP THAT SITE AND START ELEVATING THE PROPERTY VALUES. SO IT'S AN EVOLUTION. I AGREE WITH YOU. WE NEED TO GET IT BETTER. BUT IF YOU LOOKED AT IT TEN, 12, 14 YEARS AGO, IT WAS A LOT WORSE. AND SO THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN

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OTHERWISE. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH. MR. PRESIDENT, SO FOR THE SAKE OF THE PUBLIC AND MAYBE THIS WILL COME ABOUT IN SECOND READING, I HAD A RESIDENT ASK ME ABOUT THIS OVER THE HOLIDAY BREAK, AND I POINTED HIM TO OUR WEBSITE. WHERE TO GO? BUT COULD YOU SPEAK AS TO HOW PEOPLE FIND THIS INFORMATION? YEAH, THE WEBSITE'S A GREAT LOCATION FOR OUR GRANTS.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR SIDEWALK GRANT ON THERE AS WELL. THEY NEED TO GO TO WHAT SECTION IS IT ON THE WEBSITE? SORRY, I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT. YOU'RE OKAY. IT'S PROBABLY UNDER OUR PLANNING AND ZONING. THEY COULD ALSO TYPE IN THE SEARCH BAR. PATTERSON. GRANT. YEAH. HOME IMPROVEMENT GRANT. OKAY. YEAH. AND THEN THEY CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT TO STAFF. WE CAN SHARE THAT APPLICATION WITH THEM AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. I'LL JUST SAY I THINK THIS IS THIS IS GREAT. YOU KNOW, RAISING IT TO A33 THOUSAND 500 MAXIMUM. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTS OBVIOUSLY, SINCE I SPEAK FOR MORE OF THE PRESERVATION SIDE, I HAVE A LOT MORE RESIDENTS THAT COME TO ME ABOUT ABOUT PRESERVATION EFFORTS. AND, YOU KNOW, I HAD A HOMEOWNER WHO WHO DID A COPPER ROOF ON THEIR BAY WINDOWS, AND THEY WERE VERY EXCITED BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO DO THE THEY WANTED TO RESTORE THEIR FRONT ORIGINAL FRONT DOOR. AND ALSO RESIDENTS WERE HAPPY THAT THEY WERE ABLE BECAUSE IT USED TO BE OBVIOUSLY EVERY OTHER YEAR NOW THEY CAN DO MORE PROJECTS. SO THAT'S EXCITING. YOU WANT PEOPLE TO BE EXCITED ABOUT NOT ONLY PARTNERING WITH THE CITY, PARTNERING WITH OUR BOARDS AND OUR COMMISSIONS, UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS OF WHAT IT MEANS WHEN YOU ARE LIVING IN A CITY AND THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE'S PERSONAL PROPERTY RIGHTS, WHAT YOU ARE DOING IMPACTS YOUR NEIGHBORS AND EVERYONE AROUND YOU. SO BUILDING THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE RESIDENTS CAN HELP GET FUNDING, YOU KNOW, MY ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO OBVIOUSLY NARROW THAT DOWN THE INSTEAD OF GOING CITY WIDE. BUT I THINK IN THE END, IT'S BEEN IT'S THAT BOTH GRANTS HAVE BEEN A SUCCESS. AND I THINK RAISING IT WAS A GOOD MOVE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS WILL

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ADMINISTRATION. YES, MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS A KIND OF A FIRST PIECE OF LEGISLATION.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY, THE 55 ACRES THAT THE COSMOS DEVELOPMENT IS LOOKING AT AND INTERESTED IN. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE THIS A FIRST READING TONIGHT. OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, ERIC PHILLIPS, WILL BE HERE AT THE NEXT MEETING TO DO A PRESENTATION. AND THERE WILL ALSO BE LEGISLATION COMING FORWARD ON THE INCENTIVE BASED LEGISLATION ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROJECT. SO TONIGHT IS JUST FIRST READING. YOU WILL SEE A FULL PRESENTATION AT THE NEXT MEETING. AND THEN WE'LL CONCURRENTLY RUN THOSE TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH BOTH. COUNCIL. THIS BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON FEBRUARY 10TH.

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SECTION 1121.11 NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT 1121.15 REGIONAL. MIXED USE DISTRICT.

SECTION 1123.33. SMALL BOX DISCOUNT RETAIL STORES AND THE APPENDIX GLOSSARY OF TERMS. AND I HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MACKENZIE. SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK TONIGHT ABOUT THE SMALL SMALL BOX DISCOUNT RETAIL ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS. COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY REMEMBER LAST YEAR IN APRIL WE HAD A PRESENTATION AND YOU ESTABLISHED A ONE YEAR MORATORIUM ON ACCEPTING ANY APPLICATIONS, ZONING PERMITS, BUILDING PERMITS FOR BUSINESSES THAT MEET THAT DEFINITION OF A SMALL BOX DISCOUNT RETAIL STORE. AND WE'LL GET INTO WHAT THAT DEFINITION DEFINITION IS HERE IN A FEW MINUTES. BUT JUST A LITTLE PROJECT HISTORY. AFTER THE MORATORIUM WAS ESTABLISHED, WE HAD TIME TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON COMMUNITIES NOT JUST IN OHIO, BUT IN OTHER STATES, KIND OF HOW THEY ADMINISTER APPLICATIONS FOR THOSE TYPES OF STORES. AND THEN THE NEW LEGISLATION WILL DISTINCTLY DEFINE WHAT A SMALL BOX DISCOUNT RETAIL STORE IS AND HOW IT'S DIFFERENT FROM OUR EXISTING RETAIL ZONING USES. AND THEN JANUARY 25TH, PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THE LEGISLATION, AND WITH A FEW AMENDMENTS, THE USE WILL BE CONDITIONAL IN THE FOLLOWING DISTRICTS. THE REGIONAL, MIXED USE, SUBURBAN, COMMERCIAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. AND WE'VE GOT A MAP THAT KIND OF OUTLINES WHERE THOSE ARE. SO THE LIGHT PINK IS THE SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL. THE DARKER PINK CLOSER TO THE UPTOWN IS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, AND THE REDDISH COLOR IS THE REGIONAL MIXED USE. SO THOSE ARE THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS WHERE IF AN APPLICANT CAME TO THE CITY TO CONSTRUCT A SMALL BOX DISCOUNT RETAIL STORE, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN ONE OF THOSE THREE ZONING DISTRICTS. WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS. SO AS FAR AS DEFINITIONS GO, THERE'S GOING TO BE SIZE PARAMETERS FOR BUSINESS THAT WOULD MEET THAT DEFINITION OR THAT WOULD MEET THE DEFINITION OF A SMALL BOX DISCOUNT RETAIL STORE, AS WELL AS WHAT THEY ARE SELLING AND WHAT THAT PRICE POINT IS. SO GENERALLY, MOST OF THE ITEMS ARE $10 OR LESS, AND THOSE STORES DO NOT DEDICATE A MINIMUM OF 15% OF SHELF SPACE FOR FRESH OR FROZEN PRODUCE OR FRESH FRUIT OR PRODUCE. AND THEN WE'VE DEFINED THOSE JUST SO WE HAVE A CLEAR DEFINITION FOR THOSE APPLICANTS WHEN THEY COME TO CITY FOR THAT EXCLUSIONS. SO IF IT'S A STORE THAT SELLS LESS THAN 5% OF FOOD SALES OR SELLS GASOLINE OR DIESEL, HAS A PHARMACY, OR HAS MORE THAN 15% OF THEIR SHELF SPACE DEDICATED TO FRESH OR FROZEN PRODUCE, THEN THEY'RE EXCLUDED FROM THAT DEFINITION OF A SMALL BOX DISCOUNT RETAIL STORE. SPACING. THIS IS ONE THING THAT PLANNING COMMISSION ASKED US TO CHANGE ORIGINALLY WAS NO STORE COULD BE LOCATED WITHIN TWO MILES OF AN EXISTING STORE. PLANNING

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I HAD A QUESTION. SO PRIOR TO THE UPS GOING IN WHERE THE FORMER FAMILY VIDEO WAS, THERE WAS AN APPLICANT, I BELIEVE THEY HAD WITHDRAWN, BUT THEY WANTED TO OPEN UP A LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD, A NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET. YEAH, YEAH. HOW WOULD A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD SUPERMARKET CARRY OUT STORE DIFFER FROM SMALL BOX DISK? WELL, ONE WOULD BE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. I THINK THAT SPACE WAS PROBABLY LESS THAN 3000FT■!S. TWO WOULD BE YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SELLING, WHAT THE PRICE POINTS ARE. I IMAGINE A NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET LIKE THAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE MORE THAN 15% OF THEIR SHELF SPACE DEDICATED TO FRESH FOOD AND PRODUCE. YEAH. OKAY. YEP.

THANKS. YEP. ARE THERE ANY OTHER KIND OF RETAIL USES THAT WE HAVE SIMILAR REQUIREMENTS FOR JUST WITH SQUARE FOOTAGE OR SHELF SPACE, OR JUST KIND OF LIKE A RADIUS LIKE THAT? DO WE USE THAT FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE AROUND THE CITY? NO, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME TO OUR ATTENTION JUST THROUGH SOME CONTINUING EDUCATION COURSES. WE'VE TAKEN, SEMINARS WE'VE GONE TO ON THE PLANNING INDUSTRY. I'VE SEEN OTHER COMMUNITIES IMPLEMENTING SIMILAR LEGISLATION JUST TO KIND OF AVOID A HEAVY CONCENTRATION OR PROLIFERATION OF SMALL BOX DISCOUNT STORES.

ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, WE THERE'S TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT. AND DELIBERATE, DELIBERATE, DELIBERATE. AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL COME BACK I THINK IT'S A MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. LET'S BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON FEBRUARY 10TH. ORDINANCE C FIRST

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OKAY, SO WE HAD A REQUEST. THERE WAS INITIATION FROM FROM COUNCIL TO AMEND THE ADUS. IT WENT OVER TO PLANNING COMMISSION. SO I'LL WALK THROUGH THIS KIND OF RED LINE DOCUMENT TO SHOW WHERE WE WHERE WE ENDED UP THROUGH SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS AT PLANNING COMMISSION. MCKENZIE CAN I SCROLL THE I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN SCROLL THIS. OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY. SO I THINK INITIALLY ONE OF THE ITEMS FOR FROM COUNCIL WAS TO CONSIDER REMOVING THIS FROM THE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. AT AT PLANNING COMMISSION. THEY DECIDED TO MAINTAIN THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME PARCELS THAT ARE LARGER AND COULD ALLOW MAYBE AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT ON THAT PARCEL DUE TO THE SIZE AS WELL. THEY DID AGREE TO THE CONDITIONAL USE. SO THAT WAS ANOTHER REASON WHY THEY SAID, WELL, LET'S KEEP THAT THAT USE IN THE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. SO IT'LL BE AN SDE VRD ARD UPTOWN TRANSITIONAL AND UPTOWN SINGLE FAMILY AS CONDITIONAL. WE DECIDED TO ADD IN THE STATEMENT ABOUT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS. SO RIGHT NOW IT'S IT STATES THAT NO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT SHALL BE LOCATED WITHIN THE PUD, UNLESS IT SPECIFICALLY CALLS THAT OUT IN THAT TEXT. OTHERWISE, THEY NEED TO COME THROUGH THE TYPICAL AMENDMENT PROCESS. SO THEY'D GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION TO SAY, WE WANT TO AMEND THE ACCESSORY ALLOWED ACCESSORY USES. AND THEY WOULD ADD THAT AND IT WOULD COME TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL AS WELL. SO WE ADDED THE PLANNING OR THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT STATEMENT IN THERE. IF YOU COULD SCROLL DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE. THANK YOU. ANOTHER ITEM THAT COUNCIL HAD REQUESTED WAS TO CONSIDER THAT ALL ADUS SHALL NOT INVOLVE THE CONVERSION OF THE SPACE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY

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AND KIND OF OUR VISION STATEMENT, WHICH SPEAKS TO WELL PLANNED, WELL THOUGHT OUT NEIGHBORHOODS. AND A LOT OF THIS HAD TO DO WITH MAINTENANCE. SO ADUS, I THINK, ARE SEEN AS A REALLY GOOD THING IN CERTAIN INSTANCES, AND THEY CAN SERVE A REALLY GREAT PURPOSE. AND THIS ALLOWS THAT TO STAY IN OUR CODE. IT DIDN'T USED TO BE THERE. SO THIS KEEPS WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE A GOOD THING. BUT THIS KIND OF IS EVIDENCE OR THIS IS AN OUTCOME OF ME LISTENING TO RESIDENTS WORKING, YOU KNOW, WITH COUNCIL PRESIDENT BURGER AS WELL AS CITY STAFF TO TALK THROUGH WHAT KIND OF WAS WANTED, PUT IT THROUGH THE PROCESS, THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION STRIKE THROUGH VARIOUS LANGUAGE. SO I SEE THIS AS A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS. ULTIMATELY ME TRYING TO KEEP PROMISES TO WHAT I SAID I WAS GOING TO DO, AND I REALLY SEE THAT IN THIS CASE. AND WHAT'S PUT FORTH HERE, THAT WE CAN KEEP A GOOD THING, BUT WE CAN MAKE IT SOMETHING LIKE A PROCESS, SOMETHING AND A PROCESS THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE. AND IT GIVES RESIDENTS A VOICE, NOT JUST ON THE DECISIONS IN THE APPEARANCE, BUT ALSO A VOICE IN THE DECISIONS ON THE EXISTENCE OF THESE TYPES OF CONVERSIONS OF PROPERTY NEXT TO IN, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO WHERE THEY LIVE, OR IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THEY LIVE. SO THAT WAS ALL I HAD TO SAY. THANK YOU. AND COUNCILMAN HUNTER RELATED TO THE RESIDENTS ABILITY TO COME OUT TO THOSE MEETINGS. WE WILL NOTIFY THEM FOR THAT CONDITIONAL USE, AND WE WILL THEY WILL GET NOTIFIED AS WELL WHEN THAT PROJECT GOES TO DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TWO DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES TO COME LISTEN TO THAT PROJECT AND SPEAK TO THE BOARD AT THAT TIME. JUST AS A CLARIFICATION POINT. SO WITH THE WHOLE NOTIFICATION PROCESS, HOW WHAT'S THE STANDARD FOR LEGAL NOTICES GET SENT OUT TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES? OKAY. SO OKAY. GOT IT. WE DON'T HAVE LIKE A DISTANCE. BUT WE TRY TO BE WE TRY TO ADD SOME IN THERE AT TIMES, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL LIKE MORE RESIDENTS WOULD WANT TO KNOW ABOUT. THE ONLY THING CAN CAN YOU SCROLL BACK UP? SO MRS. PROPERTY, JUST ON THE TOP WHERE WE TALK ABOUT, OKAY, WAIT, WAIT, GO DOWN THE GREEN TEXT ALL IT SHOULD NOT INVOLVE THE CONVERSION OF ANY SPACE ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED TO SERVE AS THE HOME'S PRIMARY GARAGE. SO

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MOST OF THEM DON'T HAVE EXCESS ACCESS DOORS. THEY DON'T HAVE WINDOWS. SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ALLOW SOMEBODY TO LIVE IN A TWO CAR GARAGE WITHOUT HAVING, YOU KNOW, PLUMBING? IT WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY CONVERTED AND IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AS WELL TO GET ALL THOSE NECESSARY PERMITS TO FOR SOMEONE TO BE ALLOWED TO LIVE IN THAT. YEAH, I COULD I'VE SEEN SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE BUILD AN ADDITIONAL GARAGE. YES. YOU KNOW, AN OUTBUILDING AND MAYBE THEY HAVE A THREE CAR GARAGE AND THEY HAD AN ORIGINAL ONE CAR OR TWO CAR ATTACHED, BUT THEN THEY CONVERTED THE ATTACHED PORTION INTO LIVING SPACE. YEAH. SO I GUESS THE POINT IS WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR OFF STREET PARKING FOR EVERY SINGLE FAMILY HOME. AND WE'RE ADDING A REQUIREMENT FOR PARKING FOR THE ADU. AND TO ME, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE NEED. YEAH. SO HOWEVER THEY MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. YEAH THAT THAT SPACE COUNCILMAN BURGER COULD NOT BE OCCUPIED BY SOMEONE UNLESS THEY GOT APPROVAL THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CONVERTED INTO THE NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS FOR LIVING SPACE. LIKE YOU SAID, INSULATION AND PLUMBING AND A BATHROOM AND KITCHEN. AND SO THEY'RE THEY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED JUST TO INHABIT A TYPICAL GARAGE. AND SO THEN EDUCATE ME, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN BUILDING DEPARTMENT, IT WOULD BE UP TO THE COUNTY. YEAH, THE COUNTY BUILDING DEPARTMENT REVIEWS ALL THOSE PERMITS. AND WE ARE SUBJECT TO WHAT THE COUNTY HAS. THE ONLY THING WE COULD DO IS THROUGH ZONING CODE.

IF THEY CAME IN TO DRB AND SAID IF THE COUNTY PERMITTED SOMEONE TO LIVE IN A GARAGE, THE ONLY THING WE COULD REALLY DO IS PERMIT WHAT THE OUTSIDE LOOKS LIKE. SO WE WOULD THEY WOULD COME TO THE ARB. WELL, THEY WOULD COME TO CITY STAFF FIRST. THE APPLICANT WOULD AND SAY, HEY, I WANT TO TURN MY TWO CAR GARAGE INTO A HOUSING UNIT. THE COUNTY HAS ALREADY AGREED THAT I CAN DO IT. AND YOU WOULD THEN SAY BASED ON CITY CODE, WELL, THE PROCESS WOULD BE EITHER YOU WOULD GIVE THE YOU AND STAFF WOULD GIVE THE GIVE GRANT THE ACCESS TO DOING IT. OR IF CITY STAFF THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT DESIGN REVIEW BOARD SHOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE, THEN DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WILL BE THE ONES TO SAY IF THE APPLICANT SAID I NEED AN I NEED A DOOR, OR I NEED TO PUT A WINDOW IN, OR I NEED TO CHANGE MY GARAGE DOOR OUT AND PUT A WALL UP OR WHATEVER THAT IS, THEN I JUST, YOU KNOW, SO THEY HAVE TO GO FOR ADU CONVERSIONS, WHETHER IT'S A NEW ADU WITH A COMPLETELY SEPARATE STRUCTURE OR CONVERTING SOME PORTION OF THE HOME, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH DESIGN REVIEW BOARD NO MATTER WHAT STAFF DOESN'T. WE'LL SHARE OUR STAFF REPORT, BUT WE DON'T APPROVE THOSE. THEY'RE NOT ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED. SO DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WOULD WOULD GO THROUGH THE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THIS SECTION TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE MEETING THOSE, TO MAKE SURE THE ARCHITECTURAL CHANGES THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR SOMEONE TO LIVE IN THAT SPACE, LIKE REMOVING A GARAGE DOOR, THAT THAT WOULD ALL OCCUR. AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WOULD GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESS AS WELL, WITH PLANS FOR A DWELLING UNIT AND COUNCILMAN OR COUNCIL PRESIDENT. BERGER. SORRY, I'D JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY, WITH THE

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THE OPEN LOT. IT'S AN OPEN LOT. YEAH. I MY WORD OF CAUTION WOULD BE I THINK THAT WE NEED TO COLLECTIVELY TALK ABOUT THE MORA DISTRICT AND WHERE WE WANT THOSE BOUNDARIES TO BE SET BEFORE WE ADD ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY TO THE MORA DISTRICT. OKAY. THAT WOULD JUST BE MY RECOMMENDATION.

BUT IF THIS COUNCIL OVERRULES THAT, THEY THEY OVERRULE IT. I SAID, MR. PRESIDENT, I COMMENT OR QUESTION. YEAH. SO THERE'S AN EMPTY LOT AND IT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE MORA DISTRICT.

SO IT WOULD BE INCLUDED. IT WOULD JUST GO AROUND HAPPENSTANCE AND THAT EMPTY LOT.

SO IS IT GRASS RIGHT NOW IT'S GRASS. SO YEAH, I GUESS WHAT WOULD STOP PEOPLE FROM, SAY, CONGREGATING ON THE EMPTY LOT? I GUESS THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET PERMISSION TO ENTER THAT LOT THAT'S TO BEGIN WITH. SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT WOULD BE OCCUPIED AS OF RIGHT NOW WITH PEOPLE WITH OPEN CONTAINERS. IT'S MORE SO THAT THEY COULD IF THERE'S NOT EVEN A SIDEWALK ON THAT LOT, IS THERE? DO YOU KNOW HE'S JUST OPEN TO THAT BEING INCLUDED? YEAH. I THINK EVEN IF IT WEREN'T DECIDED NOW, WE COULD AMEND EVEN LATER BECAUSE WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS, I THINK IN THE WORK SESSION WAS IS THIS THE ONLY AREA OR ARE THERE OTHER AREAS, YOU KNOW, I THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP SINCE WE LIGHT DISTRICT. PARDON. YEAH. WATER AND LIGHT DISTRICT. YEAH.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO MORE AND I KNOW THE MISTER PRESIDENT AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO DO MORE OF A COMPREHENSIVE. BUT THAT THAT WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO PUT THAT TOGETHER. ALL I'M SAYING IS WE'RE OKAY WITH THE LEGISLATION. THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. BUT I HAD A REQUEST IF THERE IF COUNCIL WOULD BE OPEN TO AMENDING IT BETWEEN FIRST READING AND SECOND READING TO INCLUDE THAT LOT. IF YOU'RE NOT, THAT'S WE JUST WE CAN MOVE ON JUST FOR CONSISTENCY. WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION OR WE DISCUSSED THIS TOPIC AT THE WORK SESSION WHEN THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY BROUGHT UP. SO THIS WAS BROUGHT FORWARD FORWARD BECAUSE THE BUSINESS OWNER AND MYSELF HAD A CONVERSATION. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS AN INQUIRY ON, HEY, HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, GET INCLUDED INTO THAT MORA DISTRICT. AND, YOU KNOW, WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD BECAUSE WE WERE ALMOST BY NOT DOING SO, WE WERE ALMOST, YOU KNOW, CREATING KIND OF AN UNCOMPETITIVE, YOU KNOW, ADVANTAGE FOR THIS PARTICULAR INSTITUTION. RIGHT? SO THE, THE IMMEDIATE. ACT IS, HEY, LET'S MAYBE INCLUDE THIS LOCATION. IT'S GOT MUTUAL BENEFITS FOR, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE UPTOWN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE KIND OF COMING AND GOING AND THE, THE DISCUSSION WITH THESE WATER AND LIGHT OR THE SILO HOWEVER YOU WANT TO REFER TO IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S REALLY NO PLAN RIGHT NOW. SO THEY HAVEN'T EVEN ASKED. YEAH. SO, SO, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN MARKETABILITY, WHAT'S THE ADVANTAGE OF, YOU KNOW, EXTENDING THIS BOUNDARY.

SO I THINK THAT MY POSITION ON THE OPEN LOT WOULD BE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH MY VIEWPOINT ON THE WATER AND LIGHT IS THERE'S REALLY NO ADVANTAGE OTHER THAN MARKETABILITY. NOW WE CAN OBVIOUSLY COME BACK AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION IF AND WHEN SOMETHING WERE TO BE PLACED ON THAT, THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WOULD THAT'S, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY WARRANT AN EXTENSION. BUT AT THIS TIME I DON'T SEE THE VALUE OF EXTENDING THAT, THAT BOUNDARY TO, TO I THINK HE'S COMFORTABLE WITH THAT TOO. HE JUST SUGGESTED IF YOU WERE INTERESTED AT ALL THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. ANYBODY ELSE THIS WOULD BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC

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CITIZENS. COUNCIL. JUST BE BACK FOR THIRD READING TITLE ONLY ON FEBRUARY 10TH. ORDINANCE G THIRD

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COUNCIL. THE ONLY QUESTION THAT WE HAVE IS THAT THE PREVIOUS NOTE THAT WE HAD WAS 3,500,000.

SO WE ARE REDUCING THIS PARTICULAR ONE BY 200,000. AND AT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE TODAY, WE DID DISCUSS THAT THE PROPERTY THAT WE RECENTLY SOLD IN INNOVATION PARK, THAT WILL BE REVIEWED SOMETIME IN MARCH OR APRIL, THERE'LL BE A SECOND PART. THIS ONE IS PART A, THERE'LL BE PART B FORTHCOMING. AND IF WE DO HAVE THE MONEY AVAILABLE, THAT WHATEVER WE DID SELL AT THE TIME, WE ARE GOING TO BE REDUCING OUR LIABILITY IN THE SAME AMOUNT. SO WE PAID ROUGHLY ABOUT ACRE AND WE SOLD 20 ACRES. SO THE INTENT IS TO REDUCE THE NEXT ONE, SINCE THIS ONE COMES IN TWO PHASES, ONE FOR MARCH, ONE FOR AUGUST, THAT AS SOON AS THE MONEY COMES IN FOR THE SALE OF THE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE GOING ON OUT THERE, THAT WE WILL BE REDUCING OUR LIABILITY BY THAT AMOUNT. THAT IS THE REQUEST THAT FINANCE HAS MADE. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY STATEMENTS? OKAY, MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION ROLL CALL. MR. WOLFF. YES. MR. BURBY YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REMES YES. MR. BORDNER YES. SIX. YES. LEGISLATION PASSES COMMENTS OF CITY MANAGER. YOU KNOW, ONLY A

[COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL PERSONS AND GENERAL DISCUSSION]

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WE'RE GOING TO PUT HIM TO WORK A LITTLE PART TIME WORK HERE. SO HE'S HE'S NOT ACTUALLY GOING AWAY. BUT WHAT A GREAT JOB JOE DID TO THE SUCCESSION PLANNING THAT HE'S DONE WITH TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. WE'RE I JUST WANT TO COMMEND ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT WE HAD HERE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THEM FOR THE BOTH COREY AND BRIAN FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. SO OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. YEAH, WE'RE STARTING DOWN THERE, MR. BORDNER. I'M GOING TO KEEP IT RELATIVELY SHORT AND SWEET. I DO WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE 2024 OHIO STATE BUCKEYES FOR THEIR NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP VICTORY LAST MONDAY NIGHT. YOU KNOW, I WAS REALLY EXCITED AFTER AFTER THE VICTORY, KNOWING THAT MY BUFFALO BILLS WERE STILL, UNFORTUNATELY, UNTIL THEY MET THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS LAST NIGHT IN THE RUNNING FOR THE SUPER BOWL. BUT NO, I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE THE BUCKEYES ON THEIR ON THEIR BIG W. AND IT'S A IT WAS A IT'S A IT'S A GOOD TIME TO BE AN OHIOAN THAT'S FOR SURE. SO I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE MR. SALIH AS WELL AS SOMEONE WHO'S GONE TO CHURCH WITH HIM FOR OVER THE LAST YEAR NOW, AS WE'VE KIND OF MERGED, MERGED CONGREGATIONS, HE GIVES A LOT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND CLEARLY THE WORK HE DOES IS VERY VALUED AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT HE'S DONE. THANK YOU. OKAY, WELL, MAYBE IT'S A GOOD THING THAT THE BILLS DIDN'T MAKE IT BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE TO TURN IN PART OF YOUR 401 K, SINCE THE TICKETS ARE GOING FOR $7,500 A TICKET. YEAH. SO GOOD.

GOOD LUCK IF YOU WANT TO GO AND SEE A BALL GAME ON MY CALENDAR HERE FOR TOMORROW. I DID IT DID POP UP TO ME THAT THE MARYSVILLE SCHOOL PLAN IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED, AND THAT WILL BE AT CREEKVIEW INTERMEDIATE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL FROM 530 TO 730. OKAY, SO WHAT YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND, IF WE LOOK BACK 25 YEARS AGO UNDER. WHAT WAS THE SUPERINTENDENT, LARRY ZIMMERMAN? YEAH, AT THAT TIME, THE CITY HAD A CONSIDERABLE GROWTH SPURT, WHICH HAPPENED TO BE ALMOST AT THE SAME TIME AS WE HAD THE TIFF. YEAH. SO WE'RE GOING BACK TO THAT SAME PERIOD OF TIME. AND AT THAT TIME, THERE WERE A FAIRLY LARGE NUMBER OF FACILITY BONDS ISSUED. AND THOSE WERE, OF COURSE. LEVIES THAT WERE PAID FOR BY THE CITIZENS. THOSE ARE DUE TO EXPIRE IN 2029. SO HERE IT IS, 2025. AND I HAVE TO GIVE THE SCHOOL KUDOS. YEAH. FOR NOW. ALREADY MAKING A DETERMINATION.

HOW IS OUR COMMUNITY AND NOT NECESSARILY MARYSVILLE BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS MUCH LARGER THAN MARYSVILLE AND THEY ARE NEEDING A COMMUNITY INPUT, COMMUNITY INPUT WITH REGARDS TO BOND SOLD. YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S A TWO YEAR MIDDLE SCHOOL. DO THEY NEED TO ENLARGE THE CAMPUS? THE ATWOOD SCHOOL THAT I HAVE LIVED NEXT DOOR TO FOR 40 YEARS. YOU CAN NOW SEE ON THE INSIDE HOW WATER IS BECOMING AN ISSUE. AND IT'S LIKE HAVING A VEHICLE THAT'S TO 200 MILES OUT.

YEAH. OR OLD. YEAH. ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP PUTTING MONEY BACK IN OR ARE YOU GOING TO REPLACE THAT. YEAH. AND EDGEWOOD IS ONE OF THOSE CONSIDERATION FOR REPLACEMENTS. CREEKVIEW ITSELF, WHICH IS AN INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL. IT NEEDS CONSIDERATION. NORTHLAND. AND SO EVERY SCHOOL IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. YEAH. AND THEY THEY WILL START THAT CONVERSATION. I KNOW WE ALSO STILL HAVE A OPERATING LEVY AHEAD OF US. YEAH. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO FACILITIES I THINK IT'S A GOOD DECISION FROM THE SCHOOL TO NOT PUT THAT ON THE BACK BURNER, BUT TO COME FORWARD AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE ANTICIPATE AND WE DO NEED CITIZENS INPUT. SO TOMORROW AT 530 OVER AT CREEKVIEW INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL, ANYBODY THAT'S INTERESTED OR WANTS TO SEE WHAT THE FUTURE OF

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THEY CALLED THE TOW TRUCK FOR ME, AND WE GOT THAT TAKEN CARE OF. SO I APPRECIATE THE HELP OUT THERE. IT'S NOT MUCH FUN BEING STOPPED WITH NO POWER AT ALL, NO FLASHERS OR ANYTHING. SO I APPRECIATED THE QUICK ATTENTION THERE. MR. HUNTER. ALL RIGHT, SO I AM GLAD THAT THE KIDS ARE BACK AT SCHOOL AND THEY'RE NOT MISSING OUT ON SCHOOL BECAUSE OF THE COLD WEATHER TONIGHT OR TODAY. IT WAS A LITTLE BIT WARMER. I ALMOST THOUGHT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, UPTOWN FRIDAY NIGHT SEASON, BUT WE GOT SOME MONTHS TO WAIT FOR THAT. BUT IF YOU ARE IN FOR SOME ENTERTAINMENT, I WILL SAY THAT THE CREEKVIEW INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL IS HAVING A LITTLE MERMAID JUNIOR PERFORMANCE THIS WEEKEND. TICKETS ARE A HOT COMMODITY FOR THE FRIDAY NIGHT SHOW, BUT SATURDAY AND SUNDAY LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME SEATS, SO BE SURE AND SUPPORT PERFORMING ARTS AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL. MY DAUGHTER, SHE'S I DON'T THINK SHE'S GOING TO WATCH THIS, BUT SHE DIDN'T MAKE THE CUT. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS THAT DID, AND THEY'VE SPENT MONTHS LIKE JUST AFTER SCHOOL, I THINK 2 OR 3 DAYS A WEEK AND THEY'VE PUT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF HEART AND SOUL INTO THIS. SO GO OUT AND SUPPORT THE QUASI MIDDLE SCHOOLERS IN THEIR ENDEAVOR HERE. SO THAT'S ALL I HAD. THE ONLY YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE WITH THE COLD TEMPERATURES, WINTER HAS BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME, BUT REALLY WE'VE HAD ABOUT THREE WEEKS OF THE OLD MAN WINTER COMPARED TO FOUR MONTHS. YOU KNOW, AS WE REMEMBER, NOVEMBER WAS EXTREMELY WARM.

DECEMBER WAS THE WARMEST ON RECORD. YOU KNOW, JANUARY, THE FIRST WEEK WAS VERY WARM. AND I JUSTANTED WO SAY T THANK YOU TO ROADF FOR EURINGNSHAT TH TE YOUS,NOW, K WE I AAM B IGVER OFLONOW. S I WASOPING H FR GE SNOARALLS,WFIKE L A FO, YOUOT KNOW, BUT TYHE KEPT MARIVI SOUTH. BUT IUESS G SHOU NER GETEV IT. SSOE W LIKE,LDOU K YW,NO L THEMET HA AVENOW S DAY T.OO BUT,OU SNOWIDN'HAVE AT IG B LLS,FAUT B THENOWS W SE .NT AND WHETHEN GROUND MPERATTEE IS URAS COLD IT IASS, Y HARDER TOET SAL GT TO YOURK AND S YOUO,NOW, KOR THE F AKW,NO SO THOUGHI T THE DIDY EALLY R GOODOB. AN J ID THINK FOAR TAFF O SF EIGHTS THA IT Y THATTLRE THA AT ARE PLING.OW YEA BUTH. OENTIMEFT S'LL, WWELLE'ULL P FROOTHERM NECECERES TOOITHIN WE CTHYITF I RESISSO I SHINK T I THINK NTSDE THOUGH TEND UYO KW, THINK RIDENTSES FGETOR THA CONTO TO AS COUNCIL HAS UEDIN TO BE CONRVATIVSEIN BERSUM ITHE BN GET,UD YOU THATHAVA LOTE F O PPLEEO AMOUL DPLETIOBS IN J AMALL S OFNT PPLE THEO DOAT JSOB ,ATTH PPLE WOEODULHINK T WE ULDO HA A WVELEHO FLE.ET AND TO VE ERY V SMALLROUP O GF PPLEEO OWINGPLLL THE A CITY STRTS INEE OUR COMNITYMUS A I BIGASK. A TND I THINK THAT, YOU KW,NO THEYO JOB. SO, YOUNOW, K SOME OFHESE TEPARTM DTS AREEN VYER SML. BUTAL ANYY,WAHAT T TT WASHA LL A HAD T IO, HAD TO Y.

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MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD NOMINATE MATTHEW STIFFLER FOR THE OPEN CITY COUNCIL SEAT. IS THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? MR. PRESIDENT? I'LL NOMINATE JULIE KRAMER. IS THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE. WE CAN. I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE NOMINATION.

SO MOVED AND THEN. ALL IN FAVOR? ROLE ROLL CALL. ALL IN FAVOR. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR I. ROLL CALL.

MR. BURGER. WE STATE THE NAME OF OUR CANDIDATE, JULIE KRAMER. MR. HUNTER, JULIE KRAMER. MR. ROOMS. JULIE. KRAMER. MR. MR. BORDNER HAS ABSTAINED. MR. WOLF, MATTHEW STIFFLER AND MR. BARBIE AND MR. SCHEFFLER. SO WE NEED FOUR VOTES AND IT'S 3 TO 2. SO IT'S UNDECIDED AT THIS POINT. AND OUR CHARTER STATES THAT COUNCIL HAS 30 DAYS FROM THE TIME THAT THE VACANCY OPENS UP, WHICH WAS ON JANUARY 1ST. SO I GUESS TECHNICALLY YOU HAVE UNTIL THE END OF THE DAY, THE 30TH, TO DECIDE WHO SHOULD BE WHO SHOULD FILL THE VACANT SEAT. IF COUNCIL IS UNABLE TO MAKE THAT DECISION AS A BODY, THEN THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT HAS 15 DAYS SUBSEQUENT TO JANUARY 30TH TO APPOINT THE COUNCIL PERSON TO FILL THE OPEN SEAT. SO TODAY IS THE 27TH OF JANUARY. DOES COUNCIL INTEND TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE DAY, THE 30TH? HEARING? NONE. I'LL SAY NO. OKAY, SO IF THERE'S NOT A CHANGE OF HEART OR IF NO, NO MEETING IS SCHEDULED BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE DAY ON THE 30TH, THEN BEGINNING ON THE 31ST, YOU'LL HAVE 15 DAYS FOR MR. PRESIDENT TO APPOINT THE TO APPOINT SOMEONE TO FILL THAT VACANT SEAT. THANK YOU. SO IN

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AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY WHO CAME OUT AND, YOU KNOW, AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IT WAS A TOUGH IT WAS A TOUGH DECISION FOR ALL OF US. AND IT STILL IS A TOUGH DECISION. AND NEVER DID I EVER THINK THAT I WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE ON THE REPLACEMENT OF COUNCIL. AND AS PRESIDENT OF THIS BODY, I WANT TO WORK AS A TEAM AND I DO NOT LIKE MAKING DECISIONS WITHOUT MY PEERS. AND SO IF THERE IS A CONSIDERATION OF CHANGE, I WILL BE OPEN AND LISTENING TO THOSE. BUT IF NOT, THEN WE WILL. MAKE A DECISION IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SO INSANE IN STATING THAT, LET ME JUST MAKE A SUGGESTION THIS. IF I GUESS I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF ANY COUNCIL MEMBER FEELS UNMUTE, MAYBE. THANK YOU. SO MY SUGGESTION IS THAT SINCE WE'RE UP AGAINST THE CLOCK, IF ANY COUNCIL MEMBER FEELS THAT THAT HIS DECISION MAY SWAY THE VOTE IN FAVOR OF ONE CANDIDATE OR ANOTHER, THAT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CONTACT YOU, DONALD, AND CALL A SPECIAL MEETING, HOPEFULLY WITH JUST 24, YOU KNOW, WITH 24 HOURS NOTICE. IF NOT, THAT'S FINE. BUT BUT THAT'S BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONVENE AND HAVE COUNCIL SET A SPECIAL MEETING. SO IF A IF A COUNCIL MEMBER FEELS THAT HIS VOTE MAY MAKE IT MAY SWAY THE DECISION AND OR THAT MORE DISCUSSION MAY BE NEEDED BECAUSE SOMETHING ELSE HAS COME UP THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED, THEN THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HAS THE AUTHORITY TO SET A SPECIAL MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND THE 30TH. SO BASICALLY YOU WOULD HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, GET WITH THE CLERK PRIOR TO THE CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON THE 29TH. OKAY, OKAY. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT THEN OR. NO? I MEAN I THINK YOU CAN JUST MAKE THAT PROCLAMATION RIGHT NOW. YEAH. I MEAN YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. IF SOME. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. OKAY. SO THEN IF, IF, IF NO DECISION IS MADE BY THE END OF THE DAY ON THE 30TH, THEN YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITIES AT THE WORK SESSION OR THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING, THE WORK SESSIONS ON THE THIRD, REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS ON THE 10TH TO MAKE THE APPOINTMENT. OR YOU CAN CALL A SPECIAL MEETING IF YOU'D LIKE. OKAY. MOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. YES. YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

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