Feb 10, 2025 City Council

[CALL TO ORDER]

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WELCOME, EVERYBODY, TO THE FEBRUARY 10TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY, AS THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. SO I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALMIGHTY GOD, WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND ITS CITIZENS. AMEN. AMEN. ROLL CALL. ZACH BORDNER HERE. STEVEN. WOLF HERE. HANK. FURBY.

DONALD BERGER HERE. SCOTT HUNTER HERE. MARK REAMS HERE. AND JULIE KRAMER HERE. IS THERE ANY

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]

THANKS, TERRY. ON THE MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS SIDE, CITY STREET CREWS CONTINUE TO ADDRESS CITY WIDE POTHOLES. YOU KNOW, WITH THE WEATHER, INCLUDING 33. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO BEGINNING PREPARATION FOR THE PATH CONNECTION BETWEEN DUNHAM AVENUE AND CHESTNUT STREET. ON THE FORMER MARYSVILLE STEEL PROPERTY WITHIN THE RAIL BED. PARKS CREWS ARE CURRENTLY REMOVING HONEYSUCKLE, AND THEY ARE PLANNING ON ADDING A THIN LAYER OF GRAVEL AT MCIVER WOODS. AND THEN YOUNG TREE PRUNING ACTIVITIES ARE MOVING FROM THE UPTOWN TO GREEN PASTURES. FROM THE WATER SIDE, CREWS CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE PARK AVENUE

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REGISTRATION IS REQUIRED ONLY DUE TO LIMITED SEATING. SO WE HAVE A GREAT IDEA OF WHO'S WHO'S GOING TO BE THERE. SEATING WISE AND FOOD WISE. AND YES, EVERYTHING IS ON OUR WEBSITE, ON OUR HOME PAGE. AS FAR AS RESERVATIONS AND POSTING TO OUR SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL. OKAY, PERFECT. AND MR. BROOKS, CHIEF BROOKS, APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THE WITH THE DIFFERENT SAFETY TRAINING. I DID SEE MR. SAX POSTED ON LINKEDIN. LOOKED LIKE YOU HAD A GOOD TURNOUT EARLIER THIS WEEK. SO APPRECIATE ALL YOU'RE DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S ALL I HAD.

THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY ELSE. THE ONLY THING THAT I'LL STATE FOR THE STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS IS I WILL ASK FOR A DRESS CODE AGAIN THIS YEAR, AND I'LL ASK. EVERYONE WEARS A SHADE OF GREEN FOR, FOR THE STATE OF THE CITY. CITY ADDRESS AS COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO A SHADE OF GREEN. WE DON'T WE DON'T ALL HAVE MATCHING MATCHING SHIRTS, BUT WE EVERYBODY WEAR A SHADE OF GREEN. REPORT OF CLERK OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. REPORT OF ECONOMIC

[REPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT]

WE HAD THE DEPUTY GENERAL OF THE MINISTRY OF LAND, INFRASTRUCTURE, TRANSPORT AND TOURISM FROM JAPAN VISIT US LAST WEEK. AND WE DID A TOUR. WE DID A PRESENTATION ABOUT SOME OF OUR SMART CITY INITIATIVES. THIS WAS ACTUALLY A RESULT OF TERRY AND I VISITING THEIR MINISTRY. WHEN WE WENT TO JAPAN BACK IN 23. THEY'RE NOW CONDUCTING A STORY, A STUDY WITH DELOITTE TOUCHE TOHMATSU, WHICH IS DELOITTE TOKYO, ON HOW JAPANESE COMPANIES CAN BECOME MORE INVOLVED AND ENGAGED IN SMART CITY DEVELOPMENT IN OHIO. WE THEN FOLLOWED THE NEXT DAY WE HAD A SEMINAR OR A WORKSHOP WITH 50 JAPANESE COMPANIES. AS A RESULT OF THAT, WHICH WAS REALLY BENEFICIAL AT JOBSOHIO WHO HOSTED IT, BUT IT WAS REALLY A COOL EVENT. THEY ARE CONDUCTING A STUDY THAT WILL HAVE RESULTS BACK, AND WE'LL REPORT THOSE RESULTS BACK ONCE WE GET THEM DONE. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THEM. AND MARYSVILLE WAS FEATURED DURING THE ENTIRE TIME, AND IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE LAST WEEK. BUT MORE TO COME ON THAT AND IT'S EXCITING. WE ALSO HAVE A ONE OF OUR COMPANIES, MINEBEAMITSUMI, LOCATED FORMER HONDA LOCK OVER ON THE EAST SIDE OF 33 THAT ACTUALLY IS DOING A SMART CITY PROJECT IN MARYSVILLE, AND THAT'S SMART STREET LIGHTING ON NORTH MAPLE. THE NEW THE ROAD IMPROVEMENT THAT HAS BEEN DONE WHERE BASICALLY LED LIGHTING. BUT IT IT WILL DIM DURING TIMES WHEN VEHICLES ARE ON THE ROADWAY, SO IT'LL BE DARK WHEN AND DIM WHEN CARS AREN'T THERE, BUT IT COULD RESULT IN SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS TO THE CITY AND TO OTHERS FROM AN ELECTRICITY STANDPOINT. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THEM. IT'S THE FIRST PILOT THEY'VE DONE IN NORTH AMERICA. ALL THEIR PILOTS HAVE BEEN DONE IN ASIA. BUT AGAIN, IT'S GREAT TO SEE SOME OF OUR COMPANIES INVESTING IN PILOT PROJECTS HERE IN MARYSVILLE AS WELL. THE SECOND ITEM I HAD IS THIS FRIDAY WE HAVE A MEETING AND THIS IS CALLED THE THIRD AVENUE CORRIDOR GROUP. AND USUALLY THE PRESIDENT COUNCIL. DONALD'S INVITED TO THIS. IT IS A MEETING BETWEEN DUBLIN, MARYSVILLE, UNION COUNTY, PLAIN CITY AND THEN OUR TOWNSHIPS, INCLUDING MILL CREEK AND JEROME. AND WE ACTUALLY NOW WE INVITE IN THE SCHOOLS WE MEET EVERY EVERY TWO MONTHS AND WE TALK ABOUT THREE ISSUES. AND THE ISSUE IS BETWEEN MARYSVILLE AND DUBLIN IS ABOUT GROWTH. AND WE TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, LAND USE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOW WE'RE ALL GOING TO COORDINATE AND COLLABORATE TOGETHER. WE HAVE GREAT DIALOG. WE TALK ABOUT PROJECTS AND BUT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR NOW, WHAT, A DECADE OR 12 YEARS NOW? WE'VE BEEN MEETING EVERY TWO MONTHS, AND IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THAT COMMUNICATION WITH OUR OTHER JURISDICTIONS. AND WE JUST TRY TO SOLVE ISSUES AND PROBLEMS TOGETHER. THIS THIS WEEK, UNION COUNTY IS HOSTING AND WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, PRESSURED AREAS ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER BETTER AS JURISDICTIONS AND COLLABORATE BETTER. AND THE

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THAT'S ALL I HAD. UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. THANK

[PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION REPORT]

THEY APPROVED THE DECEMBER 17TH MEETING MINUTES AND THEN SOME UPDATES. PROS CONSULTING IS SUPPOSED TO COME BACK IN EITHER MARCH OR APRIL TO GIVE FEEDBACK ON THE PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN. TALK ABOUT KIND OF THE DATA THEY GOT AND SUGGESTIONS, AND THEN HOPEFULLY GET THAT FINALIZED TOWARDS THE END OF THE SPRING, BEGINNING OF SUMMER, THE RESERVOIR CONNECTOR BRIDGE IS EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED IN OR THE PROJECT THAT SECOND PHASE CONNECTING IT TO THE RESERVOIR SHOULD BE COMPLETED SOMETIME IN JULY, HOPEFULLY EARLIER TREES ARE BEING REMOVED AT THE SCOTT FAMILY PARK THAT ARE EITHER DEAD OR LEANING OVER THE TRAILS. THE NEW PULL UP BAR IS AT MARYSVILLE OR MILL VALLEY. CENTRAL PARK WILL BE INSTALLED WHEN THE WEATHER PERMITS. SOME UNFORTUNATE NEWS THE RESTROOMS AT PARTNERS PARK WERE CLOSED FOR THE SEASON BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME VANDALISM FROM KIDS THERE AGAIN, SO THEY HOPE TO REOPEN THOSE AS SOON AS THE WEATHER BREAKS IN APRIL. APRIL 26TH IS THE DATE SET FOR THE RECYCLING AND SHRED DAY THAT WE HAVE. IN REGARDS TO THE ICELESS ICE SKATING, THERE WERE AROUND 5000 SKATERS THIS YEAR, WHICH IS ABOUT 500 LESS THAN LAST YEAR, BUT THERE WAS ONE LESS DAY OF SKATING. AND THEN OHIO STATE PLAYED A COUPLE TIMES DURING THAT EVENT. SO IT WOULD TAKE AWAY SOME SOME PEOPLE. AS FOR AGENDA ITEMS, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE SELF-SERVICE SPORT LOCKER RENTALS AROUND THE PARKS. AND THIS WOULD KIND OF START AT THE IDEA WOULD START WITH KAYAKS AT THE UPGROUND RESERVOIR AND USE THAT TO RENT THOSE OUT. AND PEOPLE CAN GO OUT, KAYAK ON THE RESERVOIR AND THEN SEE HOW THAT GOES AND MAYBE EXPAND IT TO OTHER OFFERINGS. I KNOW THERE WAS CONVERSATION ON BASKETBALLS OR SOCCER BALLS OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, BUT THAT'S WAY OFF INTO THE DISTANCE. BUT IT WAS A DISCUSSION ON THIS AND HOW THAT SPORTS LOCKER RENTAL WOULD WORK, AND THE COMPANY ITSELF WOULD COME AROUND AND DO ROUTINE MAINTENANCE ON THE EQUIPMENT, AND THEN WE WOULD REPORT ISSUES TO THEM SHOULD THOSE ARISE. BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE VERY BEGINNING STAGES OF LOOKING AT THAT TO INSTALL AT DIFFERENT PLACES. BUT IT WOULD START WITH THE RESERVOIR AND KAYAKS THERE. AND THE SECOND AGENDA ITEM WAS POLICY FOR NAMING PUBLIC PROPERTY AT SPECIFICALLY PARKS. I KNOW THERE WERE SOME OTHER ITEMS INCLUDED IN THAT THAT THE COMMISSION FELT WASN'T REALLY NECESSARY FOR THE COMMISSION'S PURPOSES, BUT STAFF HAD PROVIDED, I BELIEVE IT WAS FROM UPPER ARLINGTON. EXAMPLE OF THE POLICY THEY USE TO NAME A PARK OR A FIELD AT A PARK, OR SOME KIND OF FACILITY THERE AT ONE OF THE PARKS. SO STAFF BROUGHT IT UP AND THEN THE COMMISSION DISCUSSED IT, WENT OVER IDEAS OF, HEY, HOW DO WE WANT THE PROCESS TO WORK? HOW DO WE WANT THE NOMINATING PROCESS TO WORK? WHAT CRITERIA SHOULD BE IN THERE? SHOULD THERE BE A POINT SYSTEM? SHOULD IT BE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THERE BE LESS REQUIRED, MORE REQUIRED AND KIND OF LEAVE IT UP TO THE COMMISSION AND THEN ULTIMATELY IT WOULD COME TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. BUT THOSE WERE THE TWO AGENDA ITEMS ON THERE. AND STAFF GOT FEEDBACK ON THAT AND SHOULD BE BACK HOPEFULLY THIS MONTH OR NEXT TO KIND OF FINALIZE THAT MORE TO GET IT TO ITS COMPLETION, AND THEN THAT THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE COMING UP ON TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 18TH AT 6 P.M. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WOLF? MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS UPPER ARLINGTON'S? HOW DO THEY HOW DO HOW DO THEY DO IT. SO THEY HAVE THEIRS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN I THINK WHAT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO GO WITH. THEY KIND OF HAVE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT GETS FORMED TO GO THROUGH IT, AND THEN IT GETS REFERRED TO, I BELIEVE IT GOT REFERRED TO THE COMMISSION AND THEN TO THEIR CITY COUNCIL. I THINK THE WAY THE COMMISSION LOOKED AT IT WAS SOMEONE WOULD FIGURE OUT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT STAFF IS KIND OF IN THE PROCESS OF FIGURING OUT HOW IT WOULD GET STARTED. BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE SAYS, I THINK THIS FOOTBALL OR BASEBALL OR BASKETBALL COURT NEEDS TO BE NAMED AFTER THIS PERSON, OR I BELIEVE IT WAS JESSE ZEPEDA THAT HAD BASEBALL FIELD, A BASEBALL FIELD AT ELDRIDGE PARK NAMED AFTER HIM.

OR THAT PROCESS A FEW YEARS, SEVERAL YEARS AGO. SO IT'S KIND OF ALONG THOSE LINES OF SOMEONE

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[HEARING OF CITIZENS]

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[Res. A]

[Res. B]

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THANK YOU. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING TITLE ONLY ON FEBRUARY 24TH, 2025. ORDINANCE A

[Ord. A ]

SECTION 1121.09 AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. SECTION 1121.10 VILLAGE. RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. SECTION 1121.11 NEIGHBORHOOD. COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. SECTION 1121.12.

HOSPITAL. MIXED USE DISTRICT. SECTION 1121.13. MANUFACTURING AND INNOVATION DISTRICT. SECTION 1121.14. LIGHT MANUFACTURING DISTRICT. SECTION 1121.15. REGIONAL MIXED USE DISTRICT.

SECTION 1121.18. UPTOWN. COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. SECTION 1121.20. UPTOWN. SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT. SECTION 1121.21. UPTOWN. TRANSITIONAL DISTRICT. SECTION 1121.22. MANUFACTURING AND INNOVATION OVERLAY. DISTRICT. SECTION 1129. SIGNS AND THE APPENDIX. GLOSSARY OF TERMS AND HAVE A PRESENTATION TO PULL UP. THANK YOU. MCKENZIE. ALL RIGHT, SO WE ARE FINALLY BEFORE COUNCIL FOR OUR SIGN CODE UPDATE. SO TONIGHT WE WILL GO THROUGH. JUST A BRIEF BACKGROUND, OUR SIGN CODE UPDATE IN 20 OR OUR ZONING CODE UPDATE IN 2020. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE GOALS OF THE SIGN CODE, WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKED LIKE. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR CONSULTANT FROM ZONE CODE THAT IS HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT THE PROPOSED CODE. SO IN 2020 WE CAME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR THE UPDATE TO THE ZONING CODE. AT THAT TIME WE DID NOT INCLUDE THE SIGN CODE. WE JUST KIND OF TRANSFERRED ALL OF THAT EXISTING CODE OVER BECAUSE WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE A LARGE THING TO DEAL WITH, A LARGE SECTION TO DEAL WITH. SO WE WANTED TO DEDICATE A SEPARATE TIME FOR THAT. SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT THE LAST FEW YEARS AND WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHY WE'RE HERE AND SOME OF THOSE GOALS TONIGHT. THANKS, ASHLEY. YEAH. SO AS FAR AS GOALS, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE THE DOCUMENT MORE USER FRIENDLY. OUR CURRENT SIGN CODE, THERE'S CALCULATIONS AND FORMULAS. YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE BASED ON THE DISTRICT YOU'RE IN. THE NEW CODE WILL ALLOW FOR GREATER ALLOWANCES WITH THE NUMBER OF SIGNS, BUT STILL MAINTAIN AN APPROPRIATE TOTAL SIGN BASE AREA PERMITTED. SO THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH, BUT WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY TO BUSINESS OWNERS TO HAVE MORE OPTIONS. THE NEW CODE WILL ENCOURAGE CREATIVE ADAPTATIONS AND THE RECREATION OF HISTORICAL SIGNAGE THAT'S MOSTLY IN THE UPTOWN DISTRICT.

THERE'S A FEW NEW SIGN TYPES THAT WERE THAT ARE GOING TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE DOCUMENT, AND THEN WE'VE UPDATED AND CREATED THE DISTINCT SIGN TYPE DEFINITIONS INCLUDES THAT INCLUDES GRAPHICS. SO IT'S A LOT MORE CLEAR WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING THROUGH THE DOCUMENT. YOU KNOW WHAT AN AWNING SIGN IS. YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, GUESS WHAT? WHAT YOU'RE PUTTING DOWN ON THE APPLICATION. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE NEW SIGN CODE WILL BRING US INTO COMPLIANCE WITH SOME RECENT SUPREME COURT RULINGS BASED ON CONTENT RELATED RESTRICTIONS. OUR CURRENT SIGN CODE, A LOT OF THE DEFINITIONS HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT THE SIGN SAYS, AND THAT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH SOME RULINGS THAT THE SUPREME COURT. SO AND THEN AS FAR AS PROCESS BACK TO 22, WE

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YOUR YOUR SIGN CODE NOW IS ORGANIZED BY CONTENT TYPE, WHICH AS ASHLEY MENTIONED, THAT WENT AWAY IN ABOUT 2015. THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES PUT AN END TO THAT IN THE REED VERSUS GILBERT CASE. SO WE CAN NO LONGER IF YOU HAVE TO READ THE SIGN TO DETERMINE WHAT TYPE OF SIGN IT IS THAT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL, THAT'S IN VIOLATION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT. SO WE HAVE TO CRAFT REALLY CAREFULLY SIGN REGULATIONS THAT AREN'T BASED ON CONTENT. FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN'T SAY, OH, A REAL ESTATE SIGN CAN BE THREE FEET, THREE SQUARE FEET, BUT A POLITICAL SIGN CAN BE SIX SQUARE FEET, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T DO THAT. YOU'D HAVE TO READ THE SIGNS TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS. SO NOW WE HAVE TO BE CONTEN, NEUTRAL, TIME, PLACE AND MANNER ALL YOU CAN REGULATE. SO WE'VE HAD TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT. AND I THINK THIS CODE DOES THAT. THE NEW SIGN CODE IS SET UP WITH A MENU OF SIGNS. ESSENTIALLY HERE ARE THE DIFFERENT SIGN TYPES THAT THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE IS GOING TO ALLOW. HERE'S WHERE THEY ARE ALLOWED AND BY DISTRICT. AND THEN WITHIN THAT HERE'S HOW YOU MEASURE IT. HERE'S HOW THEY'RE DEFINED. HERE ARE THE PROCEDURES FOR GETTING A PERMIT AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT. BUT THE KEY HERE IS REALLY THE SIGN TYPE PERMISSIONS, THE COUNT, THE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS, THE LOCATION, THE SETBACKS, HOW THEY'RE ILLUMINATED, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY EXTERNALLY ILLUMINATED? ARE THEY INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED. ALL OF THIS MAKES A DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LOOK OF THE COMMUNITY AND SIGNS AND THE EFFECTIVENESS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE SIGNS ARE EFFECTIVE FOR THE BUSINESSES. RIGHT? THEY WANT TO BE SEEN.

THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE SIGN. BUT WE WANT TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT BALANCES IT WITH THE

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WHICH SIGNS ARE ALLOWED? WHAT PERMIT REQUIREMENTS? DO I NEED A PERMIT FOR THIS SIGN? DO I NOT NEED A PERMIT FOR THIS SIGN? DO I HAVE TO GO TO DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, DO I NOT? AND WHAT TYPE OF REVIEW IS THAT? IT SHOULD BE VERY SIMPLE IN A CHART. SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS A LOT OF TIMES IT'S SIGN COMPANIES THAT COME IN WITH THESE APPLICATIONS. THEY'LL BE ABLE TO READ THIS VERY EASILY, AND IT'LL CUT DOWN ON THE NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT THE STAFF'S GOING TO GET. DO I NEED A PERMIT? YOU KNOW, AND ALL THE CALLS YOU GET SHOULD BE PRETTY CLEAR. THEY'LL STILL GET CALLS, BUT IT SHOULD BE CLEAR IN HERE. THEN SIGN TYPE PERMISSIONS AND DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS.

THAT'S BY ZONING DISTRICT. AND YOU HAVE THE CIVIC DISTRICTS, THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS AND YOUR MANUFACTURING DISTRICTS. WE HAVE NEW REGULATIONS ON MURALS.

THEY'RE NOT SIGNS BECAUSE IT WOULD BE VERY HARD TO REGULATE THEM AS SIGNS. BUT HOW WHAT ARE THE DIMENSIONS? WHERE CAN THEY BE LOCATED? HOW CAN THEY BE ILLUMINATED? THOSE KIND OF THINGS. YOU HAVE A LOT OF THOSE. THEY'RE GREAT. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, PUTTING SOME PARAMETERS AROUND THAT. SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THERE'S SOME GUIDANCE AROUND MURALS, GENERAL DESIGN AND ILLUMINATION STANDARDS, SIGN PERMIT PROCEDURES. HOW DO I GET A VARIANCE? YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS IF MY SIGN DOESN'T CONFORM? WHAT HAPPENS IF IT GETS BLOWN DOWN BY A STRONG WIND? CAN I REBUILD IT? THOSE KIND OF QUESTIONS SHOULD BE ANSWERED VERY SIMPLY IN HERE. MAINTENANCE AND REMOVAL OF SIGNS. WE ALL SEEN SIGNS THAT HAVE FALLEN INTO DISREPAIR. WHAT IS THE OBLIGATION OF THE PROPERTY OWNER RELATIVE TO THE COMMUNITY IN THAT REGARD, AND VIOLATIONS AND PENALTIES THAT IT GETS TO THAT? HOPEFULLY IT DOESN'T. BUT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE FOR THAT. NEW CODE IMPROVEMENTS, JUST GENERALLY REORGANIZATION OF THE SIGN CODE STRUCTURE RIGHT NOW. YOU SAW SORT OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE STRUCTURE OF IT. NOW WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS INTUITIVE AS POSSIBLE. NEW ZONING BASED DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS, EXPANDED ENFORCEMENT MEASURES, NEW DEFINITIONS AND SIGN CATEGORIES. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THEY'RE ALL THE SIGN CATEGORIES ARE ALL DEFINED WITH A WITH A GRAPHIC. SO THAT'S HELPFUL WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A VISUAL CONCEPT A CONTENT NEUTRAL. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IN THERE ELIMINATE NUMEROUS CONTENT BASED SIGN REGULATIONS. THOSE BY LAW HAVE TO GO MEASUREMENTS BEING EXPLAINED WITH GRAPHICS. HOW DO I MEASURE THIS. WHAT COUNTS WITHIN THE MEASUREMENT? ALL THOSE THINGS SHOULD BE VERY CLEAR, REFINED EXEMPT SIGNS LIST MORE ROBUST STANDARDS, MORE ROBUST ILLUMINATIONS. THERE'S ALL THIS STUFF. SO YOU CAN YOU CAN LOOK THROUGH IT. BUT SPECIFIC HIGHLIGHTS REQUIREMENTS FOR SIGN MATERIALS AND CONDITION. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY NOT IN YOUR CODE. NOW WHAT WHAT CAN THESE SIGNS BE MADE OF? WHAT CAN YOU KNOW? WHAT MUST THEY BE KEPT IN IN NICE CONDITION? YES. HOW TO MEASURE A NEW SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR LARGER SIGNS. YOU SAW THAT? SORRY, I'M GOING THE WRONG WAY. ARE ON THE GRAPHIC BACK HERE, YOU KNOW. WHERE CAN THE SIGN BE? WHAT'S THE SETBACK? FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY. IF YOU'RE DOING A MONUMENT SIGN, WE WANT TO MAKE IT SAFE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT BLOCKING SOMEONE'S VIEW FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY OR GETTING IN THE WAY OF, YOU KNOW, MAKING A LEFT TURN. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S A SIGN THERE AND I CAN'T SEE. THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IN THE NEW CODE SIGN LIGHTING, WE TALKED ABOUT, THIS IS ALL PRETTY MUCH SAME STUFF I JUST TALKED ABOUT. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE DIFFERENT SIGN TYPES AND HOW THEY ARE DEFINED USING GRAPHICS AND WORDS, WHICH HELPS YOU UNDERSTAND, OH, I GET WHAT A BANNER SIGN IS AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT A BUILDING ENTRANCE SIGN IS. NOW JUST DOING THAT IN WORDS. YOU KNOW IT. IT CAN BE CONFUSING. IT'S HARD TO DESCRIBE JUST IN WORDS. SO THESE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SIGNS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CODE AND GRAPHICS TO ILLUSTRATE THOSE SUMMARY BENEFITS. MAJOR UPDATES TO IMPROVE CLARITY, USABILITY, ENFORCEABILITY, EASIER TO USE ADMINISTER. OF COURSE, THAT'S PROBABLY NUMBER ONE. MORE PREDICTABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S ANOTHER ONE. IF THE IF THE SIGN REGULATIONS ARE AMBIGUOUS OR UNCLEAR, THEN NOBODY HAS CERTAINTY AROUND THIS AND BETTER SIGNAGE OUTCOMES. THAT'S IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. YOU WANT TO HAVE MORE ESTHETICALLY PLEASING SIGNS AND MORE EFFECTIVE SIGNAGE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE'RE HERE AT CITY COUNCIL REVIEW AND COMMENT. THIS IS OUR FIRST READING AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME. DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A FEW IF IT'S OKAY. FIRST OFF, I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR THE LARGE VOLUME OF WORK THAT DID GO INTO DOING THIS AND THE ONE THAT ESPECIALLY I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE. AND

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AND I HAD LOOKED AT OUR SIGN CODE AT VARIOUS POINTS. AND FOR ANYONE WHO SAYS, YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST LESSEN THE BARRIERS OR LESSEN THE RESTRICTIONS FOR SIGNS I WOULD REMIND THEM OF.

THERE WAS AN EPISODE IN SEINFELD WHERE THERE WAS THIS CHICKEN SIGN, AND IT WAS VERY, VERY BRIGHT AND KRAMER WAS SUNBURNED. IT WAS SO BRIGHT. AND THEN AND IT WAS JUST A REMINDER OF HOW MUCH OF A NUISANCE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE IF THINGS WEREN'T PROPERLY CONSIDERED WHEN TALKING ABOUT SIGN CODE. SO THEN WHEN I WAS READING OUR CODE, YOU KNOW, I SAW INDICATORS OF JUST THAT WHERE, OH MAN, THAT'S A GOOD THING. THAT WE HAVE THAT IN OUR CODE WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC. WHAT I HAD HEARD IN SOME YEARS PAST, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS WERE THAT THE SMALLER BUSINESSES NOT BE KIND OF BOXED OUT FROM BEING ABLE TO MAKE A SIGN THEY DON'T HAVE THE FINANCES THAT A LARGER COMPANY DOES, BUT THEY STILL WANT TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, PUT THEIR SIGN UP AND ADVERTISE THEIR BUSINESS. SO I JUST HAD A QUESTION. MAYBE IT'S FOR CITY STAFF, MAYBE IT'S FOR YOURSELF. BUT THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, DO YOU DO YOU SENSE THAT SMALLER BUSINESSES HAVE HAD ADEQUATE CONTRIBUTION? ARE THERE STILL A NUMBER OF CONCERNS, PERHAPS, THAT ARE HELD OR HAVE BEEN VOICED BY SMALLER COMPANIES, OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE THIS IS A WIN WIN FOR THOSE TYPES OF ENTITIES? I THINK WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO ACHIEVE IS BALANCE HERE, AND THAT IS BALANCE BETWEEN THE INTEREST OF THE SMALL BUSINESS, THE OTHER BUSINESSES IN TOWN, BUT ALSO THE COMMUNITY. THAT CERTAINTY THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AND THE INTEREST OF THE CITY IN PROMOTING GOOD QUALITY SIGNAGE THAT THAT IS CONTEXT SENSITIVE.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. SO A LOT OF THESE SMALL BUSINESSES MIGHT BE IN UPTOWN.

WE'VE WE'VE OFFERED AND PROVIDED A NUMBER OF SIGNAGE OPTIONS IN THE UPTOWN DISTRICT. BUT WE MADE THOSE PROPOSING TO MAKE THOSE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED RATHER THAN AUTO ORIENTED. RIGHT. SO IT'S ARE THOSE NUANCES THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE THE SIGNS ACTUALLY MORE EFFECTIVE? I DON'T THINK WE'VE HEIGHTENED THE STANDARDS TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S GOING TO OVERLY BURDEN ANYONE. IN FACT, I THINK WE'VE PROBABLY GIVEN THEM MORE OPTIONS FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF SIGNS, WHETHER THEY BE THREE DIMENSIONAL SIGNS IN THE UPTOWN DISTRICT, SOME CHANGEABLE COPY OPTIONS. AND SO I THINK

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ANYBODY ELSE YOU KNOW, TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT MR. HUNTER WAS SAYING? YOU KNOW, SIGNS EVOLVE AS SOCIETY EVOLVES, RIGHT? I MEAN, SO, LIKE IN THE 40S AND 50S WHEN PEOPLE HAD THOSE, I MEAN, OLDER GENERATIONS, REMEMBER THE BIG GIANT THREE STORY SIGNS AND YOU GO TO, LIKE, DETROIT, YOU GO TO THE FAMOUS THEATERS ACROSS THIS COUNTRY, AND YOU STILL HAVE THOSE BIG ILLUMINATING SIGNS. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A TIME, EVEN IN UPTOWN MARYSVILLE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD THESE BIG SIGNS AND THEN AS SOCIETY CHANGES, THEY THOUGHT, WELL, THAT WAS GOD, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, BRIGHT AND IN YOUR FACE. AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE THEM BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT, THOUGHT THEY WERE GAUDY. AND THEN WE WENT TO VERY STRICT DESIGN CODES. AND NOW AS YOUR SOCIETY EVOLVES, YOU KNOW, YOUR CODE EVOLVES. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY ANYTHING IN LIFE IS EVER EVOLVING. YOUR ZONING CODE IS EVER EVOLVING, YOUR DOCUMENTATION IS EVER EVOLVING.

AND, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO TO PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOT KNOW, LADY BIRD JOHNSON WAS REALLY THE ONE THAT REALLY FOUGHT THE SIGN INDUSTRY HEAD ON, YOU KNOW, AND SHE WAS REALLY THE DRIVER INTO, HEY, AMERICA, YOU KNOW, YOUR FREEWAYS ARE BEING CLUTTERED WITH NOT ONLY GARBAGE, BUT BILLBOARD SIGNS. AND LADY BIRD JOHNSON WAS REALLY THE I MEAN, YOU GOT TO THINK ABOUT THAT, THOUGH, IN A TIME WHEN SOCIAL MEDIA AND IT'S SO EASY TO CRITICIZE SOMEBODY ON A PUBLIC PUBLIC FORUM FOR YOUR 30S OF FAME, IT'S SO EASY TO CRITICIZE. BUT BACK THEN THAT CRITICISM, THAT CRITICISM WAS JUST AS STRONG. IT JUST PEOPLE DIDN'T NOTICE IT. BUT SHE HAD TO FIGHT THE TOBACCO INDUSTRY. SHE HAD TO FIGHT ALL THESE INDUSTRIES TO CLEAN UP OUR FREEWAYS. AND BECAUSE OF HER, NOT ONLY WAS OUR FREEWAYS CLEANED UP AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE BILLBOARDS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE WILDFLOWERS, THE DAFFODILS AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO OUT THERE AT 245, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DRIVE OUT THERE, 245 AND YOU SEE ALL THOSE DAFFODILS PLANTED OUT THERE, A LOT OF THAT WAS DONE DURING HER TIME IN OFFICE AND THE BEAUTIFICATION MOVEMENT ALONG OUR FREEWAYS. AND SOME STATES REALLY EMBRACE IT STILL. BUT ANYWAY, SO, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR WORK, THANK YOU TO HIS COMMENT. YOU KNOW, IT'S EVER EVOLVING. AND I'M SURE IN 20 YEARS FROM NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE SAME THING. YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN HAS ALWAYS BEEN WITH SIGNS IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE, LET'S SAY, A FRANCHISE OF A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT AND HAVING THEIR LOGO NOT ONLY ON THE BUILDING, BUT THEN HAVING THEIR LOGO ON THE EXIT SIGNS, THE ENTRY SIGNS, YOU KNOW, THE CART RACKS, THE GAS STATIONS, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT STUFF. AND ELIMINATING THAT, YOU KNOW THOSE SIGNS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, YOU CAN HAVE A SIGN ON A BUILDING THAT'S LARGE ENOUGH TO BE SEEN BY THE STREET, BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE A WALL SIGN THAT ALSO IS NOTICEABLE BY THE STREET. I REMEMBER WHEN PLANNING COMMISSION YEARS AGO I WAS A RESIDENT, BUT THEY WANTED TO PUT A BIG TOWERING SIGN WHERE YOU YOU YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT BETHEL WOODS, WHERE THAT WAS BEING DEVELOPED. AND I ADVOCATED THAT THAT SIGN NEED TO BE A LOT LOWER. AND THEY WANTED A SIGN THAT WAS BY THE FREEWAY. AND AT THAT TIME, PLANNING COMMISSION AGREED WITH ME. AND BECAUSE MY WHOLE PLATFORM WAS ANY BUSINESS IS ALWAYS GOING TO WANT THE LARGEST SIGN POSSIBLE. BUT AT THAT TIME, 80 SOME PERCENT OF AMERICANS TRAVELED WHERE THEY WANTED TO GO BASED ON THEIR CELL PHONE USE. AND WE ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, AND I ALSO POINTED OUT, FOR INSTANCE, AVERY ROAD, YOU KNOW, YOU OR PEOPLE OUT IN THE AUDIENCE, WE MIGHT STOP AT THAT KROGER OR GIANT EAGLE ONCE A WEEK, ONCE A MONTH, ONCE A YEAR, WHATEVER IT IS. BUT OUR MONEY DOESN'T KEEP THAT BUSINESS AFLOAT. THE LOCAL MONEY DOES. AND SAME WITH MARYSVILLE. YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE YOUR TRAVELERS THAT WANT TO GET OFF THE EXIT TO STOP, BUT IT'S LOCAL RESIDENTS WHO KEEP THESE BUSINESSES AFLOAT. AND DO LOCAL RESIDENTS, WOULD THEY RATHER SEE AN 80 FOOT TOWERING SIGN OR THE TREE LINE? AND I THINK MOST RESIDENTS WILL SAY AFTER, LET'S SAY YOU PUT IN A WHOLE BUNCH OF TOWERING SIGNS, YOU'RE LIKE, OH, WAIT A MINUTE NOW. NOW THIS OBSTRUCTS FROM THE CHARACTER OF MY COMMUNITY OR WHAT I'M SEEING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SINCE 1883, FOR INSTANCE, TRINITY STEEPLE IN THE COURTHOUSE IS STILL OUR ICONIC STRUCTURES IN TOWN. SO JUST TAKING CONSIDERATION FOR THE SMALL TOWN AND THE ATMOSPHERE AND THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THE COMMUNITY. AND WOULD YOU RATHER SEE A MCDONALD'S OR A WENDY'S OR THOSE KIND OF THINGS? SO I LIKE I THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND ANY TIME TACKLING SIGNAGE OR ANYTHING OBVIOUSLY IN ZONING IS DIFFICULT, WHICH IS WHY MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE CITY PLANNERS.

BUT BUT ANYWAY, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. HEARING NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SEE YOU NEXT TIME. YEP. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR

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THERE WAS A LETTER OF INTENT THAT WE ENTERED INTO IN MAY OF LAST YEAR TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY, OR FOR ADS TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AT 95 000 ACRE TOTAL LAND PROCEEDS IS ABOUT $5.2 MILLION. IT'S THE INVOLVES THE CONSTRUCTION OF TWO 250 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FOOT DATA CENTER BUILDINGS, TOTAL OF 500,000FT■!S, ABOUT $1 BILLION INVESTMENT. ALL TOLD, FOR THE PURPOSES OF SOME OF THE TAXES, WE TALK TALK LATER. THE ESTIMATE WE'RE GIVING FOR THE REAL PROPERTY IS ABOUT 250,000,750 MILLION FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY. WE HAVE TO USE THAT FACTOR WHEN WE DETERMINE SOME OF THE PROPERTY TAXES AND HOW THEY IMPACT DIFFERENT ENTITIES. THE JOBS AT LEAST 25 JOBS AT 2.25 MILLION. THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT $90,000 PER JOB. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE COMPANY WILL ALSO HAVE CONTRACT EMPLOYEES THAT WILL WORK AT THE SITE.

VARIOUS DIFFERENT PROFESSIONS WILL BE THERE TO SUPPORT THE OPERATION OF THE DATA CENTER.

IT'S A 24 OVER SEVEN OPERATION AS WELL. THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE IS 2 TO 3 YEARS, AND SO IT TAKES SOME TIME TO CONSTRUCT THESE VERY COMPLEX BUILDINGS. YOU'VE PROBABLY NOTICED THE TWO CAMPUSES DOWN IN THE JEROME TOWNSHIP AREA. THEY'VE BEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR SOME TIME NOW AND ARE STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION. SO THIS IS THE MAP, THE MOST CURRENT MAP OF THE 33 INNOVATION PARK. OF COURSE, THESE LOGISTICS SOUTHGATE PARK. YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR. THIS IS THE OLDEST RULES ARE GOING UP WHICH IS REALLY GREAT TO SEE. THE PROJECT COSMOS, WHICH IS AKA ABS, IS LOCATED ON THIS PROPERTY RIGHT BEHIND WHERE THE TREES ARE LOCATED AS WELL. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON A POTENTIAL OTHER PROJECT HERE CALLED PROJECT RED SEA. SO THESE ARE THE AREA OF THE OF THE PARK, BUT WE'RE FOCUSED ON THE 55 TO 55.5 ACRES IN THE IN THE PARK. THIS IS THE ACTUAL SITE AGAIN, THIS BEING 33, THIS BEING AN INDUSTRIAL PARK, WE OF COURSE, THIS BEING CENTRAL WAY, THIS IS THE TRUST COMPANY. THIS IS SUMITOMO IN THE CORNER THERE.

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AS WE GO FORWARD, I THINK THAT THE WHOLE PROCESS WILL GET MORE EFFICIENT AS TIME GOES ON AS WELL. DATA CENTERS DO NOT PRODUCE A LARGE NUMBER OF JOBS. HOWEVER, THEY DO PRODUCE ABOVE AVERAGE JOBS. AND SO THE AVERAGE JOB HERE IS ABOUT $90,000 PER YEAR PER POSITION. THE AVERAGE JOB IN UNION COUNTY TODAY WE ONLY HAVE DATA FOR COUNTY LEVEL IS ABOUT $56,000 IS WHAT THE AVERAGE SALARY IS IN THE COUNTY TODAY. ADDS SUPPORTS, JOBS AND SECTORS, MANY DIFFERENT SECTORS, TELECOMMUNICATIONS, SOFTWARE, FACILITIES MAINTENANCE AND ELECTRICITY GENERATION. SO ALL THOSE ARE DIFFERENT POSITIONS OR DIFFERENT SECTORS THEY IMPACT. THEY DO NOT PRODUCE A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC SO THEY CAN SERVE, AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY FIT IN A VERY NICE PLACE WHERE YOU DON'T WANT TO GENERATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC. WE ARE ONE OF THE MOST DESIRABLE LOCATIONS FOR DATA CENTERS IN THE US. YOU'VE GOT EASTERN WASHINGTON, YOU HAVE NORTHERN VIRGINIA. WE ARE A HOTBED FOR DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT WITH US, WITH GOOGLE, WITH FACEBOOK, WITH MANY OTHERS THAT HAVE LOOKED AT CONSTRUCTING FACILITIES IN THE COLUMBUS REGION. ADHS HAS CONSTRUCTED TWO DATA CENTER CAMPUSES IN JEROME TOWNSHIP, ONE ON WARNER ROAD, ONE ON INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY. YOU CAN SEE THOSE AS YOU DRIVE DOWN. THERE'S ALSO ONE OFF 161 IN DUBLIN. THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL ONE THEY CONSTRUCTED IN THIS AREA. THEY ALSO OPERATE FACILITIES IN NEW ALBANY AS WELL AS HILLIARD. YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE HILLIARD HILLIARD DATA CENTERS OFF OF 270 WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING ON 270 AS WELL. THIS IS A MAP OF THE REGION. YOU CAN SEE THE BLUE REPRESENTS MORE OF THE CLOUD PROVIDERS, THE HYPERSCALERS WE REFER TO THEM ADS AND GOOGLE.

YOU CAN SEE A LOT AROUND NEW ALBANY. YOU CAN SEE THEM ON 270 AROUND HILLIARD. YOU CAN SEE THE TWO IN JEROME TOWNSHIP. AND THEN OF COURSE, THERE'LL BE A HOPEFULLY A MAYBE A BLUE DOT HERE IN MARYSVILLE AS WELL, IF COUNCIL GIVES ITS BLESSING. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS AROUND AS WELL. BUT IT DESCRIBES A DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE REGION.

SO THE APPROVAL PROCESS THIS IS A VERY LENGTHY PROCESS. SO THIS PROJECT'S BEEN VERY, VERY WELL VETTED UP TO THIS POINT. AND WE CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THESE APPROVALS. THE ZONING OVERLAY WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD, WHICH IS BASICALLY FOR THE PARK. AND THEN THE DRB IS ALSO APPROVED. THE PROJECT, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE MARYSVILLE SCHOOL DISTRICT, HAS APPROVED THE CRA AGREEMENT AND COMPENSATION AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF EDUCATION LAST WEEK. OHIO HI-POINT WILL CONSIDER IT ON FEBRUARY 26TH. LEGISLATION TO BE APPROVED TO BE CONSIDERED BY COUNCIL AS THE PURCHASE CONTRACT, THAT IS, IS THE THIRD ITEM. THIS EVENING WE HAVE THE CRA AGREEMENT, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE SECOND PIECE OF LEGISLATION.

IT DOESN'T INCLUDE A COMPENSATION AGREEMENT, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT BRIEFLY HERE SHORTLY. FUTURE CITY APPROVAL APPROVALS WILL BE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH WILL ACTUALLY INCLUDE A ROADWAY TO BE CONSTRUCTED AROUND SUMITOMO, CONNECTING THE DEAD END, THE DEAD END OF INNOVATION WAY TO INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY. OF COURSE, WE HAVE ZONING ENGINEERING APPROVED BY THE CITY. WE HAVE BUILDING PERMITS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY. THERE'S ALSO SOME ACTS, TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION ACCESS EASEMENTS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT BETWEEN THE CITY AND ADHS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. WE ALSO AS PART OF THIS PURCHASE CONTRACT, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR CIC COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT CORPORATION. THEY ARE SCHEDULED TO MEET NEXT WEEK ON THE 18TH AT 8 A.M. TO DISCUSS THE PURCHASE CONTRACT AND ALSO THE COMPENSATION AGREEMENT. THE REASON WHY THE COMPENSATION AGREEMENT, THE CIC IS THE GO TO ENTITY WHERE ADHS WILL PAY THE CIC. THE CIC WOULD THEN MAKE COMPENSATION PAYMENTS TO THE SCHOOLS AND TO THE CITY. THE PURCHASE CONTRACT AGAIN, WHICH IS THE THIRD PIECE OF LEGISLATION. IT'S FOR THE 55 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES. IT'S 95 AN ACRE. CLOSING AND DUE DILIGENCE IS ABOUT 180 DAYS. AGAIN, THE CIC WILL CONSIDER THAT NEXT WEEK AS WELL. SO GETTING INTO THE CRA AGREEMENT, WHICH IS THE SECOND PIECE OF LEGISLATION, IT'S A 30 YEAR. WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS A 30 YEAR, 100%. THE STATE OF OHIO HAS DESIGNATED A PROJECT SUCH AS THIS AS A MEGA SITE OR A MEGA MEGA PROJECT, WHICH IS ALLOWS THE COMMUNITIES TO EXTEND THE FORMER CEILING OF 15 YEARS TO 30 YEARS FOR MEGA PROJECTS ONLY INTEL'S A GREAT EXAMPLE. DATA CENTERS ARE CONSIDERED THAT AS

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SO YOU WILL SEE THERE'S ANOTHER PART OF THIS APPROVAL PROCESS THAT YOU WILL ACTUALLY SEE IN THE FUTURE. ADS HAS WORKED WITH WILL WORK TO ESTABLISH TALENT DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS WITH THE SCHOOLS. THEY'VE DONE THIS I THINK LATER THIS MONTH, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A THINK BIG SPACE.

I THINK IN THE IN THE JONATHAN ALDER SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THEIR MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHICH IS REALLY A COOL SPACE FOR STUDENTS TO EXPERIENCE CAREER PATHS IN, IN FIBER SPLICING AND DIFFERENT DATA CENTER TYPES OF SECTOR TYPES OF JOBS. THEY WILL ALSO INVEST ANNUALLY ABOUT $6,000 A YEAR FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS GOING FORWARD AS WELL, WHICH ALSO PAYS FOR THE MONITORING OF THOSE TAX INCENTIVES. SO CURRENT GENERATION TAXES THIS IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT STATUTE. IT'S COVERED A LOT OF THE PROPERTY IN THE CITY IS COUNTY, WHICH IS BASICALLY A. FARMLAND. EXEMPTION IS PROVIDED. YOU CAN SEE OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS THAT PROPERTY WOULD GENERATE ABOUT $45,000 IN TOTAL. YOU CAN SEE THE SCHOOLS OF THAT WOULD RECEIVE ABOUT 33,000. SO IF WE LEAVE IT AS IS FARMED LAND, IT'S GOING TO GENERATE ABOUT ONLY ABOUT $45,000 OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS. FAST FORWARD, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, THE TAX INCENTIVE AS WELL. WE'VE TRIED TO TRY TO SIMPLIFY THIS AS BEST I COULD. THE PILOT, WHICH STANDS FOR PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES, MARYSVILLE SCHOOL IS ABOUT 3.5. AND THE REASON WHY I ONLY HAVE THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THEY'RE THE BIGGEST TWO ENTITIES THAT ARE IMPACTED HERE. BUT 13.5 MILLION GOING TO THE SCHOOLS, 1.5 MILLION GOING TO THE CITY. INCOME TAX, 495 GOING TO EACH. OVER THAT 30 YEARS, THAT NUMBER IS MORE LIKELY LOW. BUT AS I SAID EARLIER, THERE'S GOING TO BE CONTRACT EMPLOYEES AS WELL. THAT NUMBER ACTUALLY WILL BE HIGHER THAN THAT PROPERTY TAX LAND INCREMENTS. SO JUST TO EXPLAIN THAT WHEN YOU PUT BRICKS AND MORTAR ON A BUILDING, THE LAND VALUE ACTUALLY WILL INCREASE FOR THE LAND IN WHICH IT'S LOCATED ON. SO THEREFORE THAT SHOWS YOU THAT FACTOR. IT'S NOT ABATED. SO THE SCHOOLS WILL RECEIVE ABOUT $3.3 MILLION OVER THAT 30 YEAR PERIOD. THE CITY OF ABOUT 250,000 ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE AGAIN, 5.7. THAT IS ACTUALLY AN ESTIMATE. AGAIN, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS GOING TO DETERMINE THE ACTUAL COST. JEREMY WILL HAVE TO SHARPEN HIS PENCIL A LITTLE BIT AND AS WELL, AND WE'LL ACTUALLY COME UP WITH A BETTER NUMBER. BUT THE ESTIMATE IS ABOUT $5.7 MILLION. THE LAND PROCEEDS GOING TO THE CITY IS ABOUT 5.2 MILLION. SO THE ANTICIPATED FINANCIAL IMPACT TO THE CITY IS ABOUT 13.1 MILLION TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, ABOUT 17.3 MILLION. AND AGAIN, WITH NO DEVELOPMENT, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE CITY WOULD RECEIVE ABOUT $2,500. NOW, WOULD WE LIKELY TO SEE IF THIS DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T HAPPEN? WILL WE SEE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, THAT SITE MORE THAN LIKELY? WILL YOU SEE $1 BILLION INVESTMENT ON THAT SITE? PROBABLY UNLIKELY, BECAUSE IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT THAT'S BEING MADE BY THE COMPANY. BELOW, YOU'LL SEE WHAT THE COUNTY RECEIVES OVER THE 30 YEARS. $620,000. THE OHIO HIGH POINT WILL RECEIVE ABOUT $710,000 OVER THAT 30 YEARS, WHICH INCLUDES THE PILOT AND THE PROPERTY TAX INCREMENT. SO THERE ARE BENEFITS TO OTHER ENTITIES. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THIS PROJECT CREATES ZERO STUDENTS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL AS AS WE LOOK AT THIS GOING FORWARD. SO TIMELINE PURCHASE CONTRACT. FIRST READING WAS LAST MEETING ON JANUARY 27TH. SECOND READINGS PROPOSAL IS TONIGHT AND CIC WILL CONSIDER ON THE 18TH NEXT WEEK. THIRD READING APPROVAL CONSIDERATION BY CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE ON FEBRUARY 24TH. THE CRA AGREEMENT TONIGHT IS THE FIRST READING. THE CIC WOULD CONSIDER THIS ON 218, WHICH INCLUDES THE COMPENSATION AGREEMENT BECAUSE THE COMPENSATION GOES TO THE CIC AND THEN IS DISTRIBUTED ALL HIGH POINT BOARD OF EDUCATION

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CONSIDERATION WOULD BE ON MARCH 10TH BY CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS COORDINATION WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES. A LOT OF DIFFERENT APPROVALS ARE STILL IN FRONT OF US, BUT THIS IS KIND OF THE PROCESS THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED. SO FINAL CONSIDERATIONS. AGAIN, THIS IS OUR FIRST MEGA PROJECT IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. IT'S OUR FIRST BILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT IN THE CITY. HONDA HAS INVESTED ABOUT 6 BILLION IN THE COUNTY. THEY'RE NOT TECHNICALLY IN THE CITY, BUT IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT BEING MADE BY A COMPANY PILOT. INCOME TAXES, LAND INCREMENT AND ROAD IMPROVEMENTS DIRECTLY BENEFIT THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, THE PILOT INCOME TAX, AND PROVIDE NEW FUNDS TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WITHOUT THE ADDITION OF STUDENTS. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE CITY WILL NOT BE REQUIRED TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION AND INNOVATION WAY TO CENTRAL WAY. IF YOU RECALL, THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO TAKE INNOVATION WAY, ALL THE WAY OVER TO CENTRAL, TO CONNECT THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO CONSTRUCT THAT NOW, WHICH IS A PLUS. THAT ROADWAY WILL OPEN ABOUT 75 ACRES OF LAND ALONG US 33 TO PROVIDE ACCESS, BUT ALSO PROVIDE A IS ACCESS TO THE TO THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE EAST OF SUMITOMO. IT ALSO TAKES UP A 55 ACRE SITE. THAT'S NOT PROBABLY THE MOST DESIRABLE SITE THAT WE HAVE IN THE PARK. YOU HAVE THE WOODLANDS, THE WOODS THAT ARE ALONG 33. WE'VE ALSO DISCOVERED A WETLANDS THAT'S LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY BETWEEN NISSAN AND THE PROPERTY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS A CONCERN. AND THERE'S ALSO THAT INFAMOUS HOOK THAT GOES AROUND THE TRUST COMPANY TO THE SOUTH. SO THAT'S NOT A VERY GOOD EASY SITE TO DEVELOP. SO THIS TAKES UP A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT MIGHT BE THE LESS THE MOST LESS DESIRABLE SITE THAT WE HAVE IN THE PARK. ADS IS A GREAT ADDITION TO THE CITY'S CORPORATE PROFILE, AND THEY HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE A GREAT PARTNER WITH THE SCHOOLS AND IN NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES, DOING VARIOUS PROGRAMS WITH TOLLS.

WITH JOHN ALDER, THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE A PROGRAM HERE IN MARYSVILLE SCHOOLS AS A RESULT OF THEIR INVESTMENT IN THE COUNTY. A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE. THAT IS THE PRESENTATION.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS. NOW. I DO HAVE JOHN WORKMAN. I ALSO HAVE GLEN DUGGER, THEIR ATTORNEY HERE THIS EVENING. DO YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM FIRST OR DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF ME? DO YOU GUYS HAVE DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, BUT GO AHEAD. OKAY I'LL LET STEVEN I'LL LET YOU GO FIRST.

YEAH. SO JUST JUST TO CLARIFY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ASKED THAT THE COMPENSATION, THE 15 MILLION OR SORRY, 17 MILLION BE FOCUSED MORE TOWARD THE PILOT PAYMENTS TOWARDS THE BEGINNING, THE FIRST 15 YEARS OF THIS. NOW, KEEP IN MIND THE INCOME TAX SHARE WILL GO OVER THE 30 YEARS. THE PILOT WILL GO FOR THE FIRST 15. THEY ASK FOR THE ACCELERATED AMOUNT, THE $903,000, WHICH WILL BE THE FIRST, RATHER THAN SPREADING THAT OUT OVER THE ENTIRE 30. CORRECT? CORRECT. AND THEN MY QUESTION, MY QUESTION RELATES TO THAT AS WELL. IF IT'S OKAY, I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS. BUT THEN MY QUESTION RELATES. SO THE 15 MILLION, IS THAT THE EQUIVALENT OF WHAT THE REAL ESTATE TAX WOULD HAVE BEEN, OR IS THAT THE AMOUNT THAT AWB MAKES AVAILABLE TO THE SCHOOL? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PILOT PAYMENT? THE PILOT PAYMENT? IS THE PILOT PAYMENT EQUAL TO WHAT THE REAL ESTATE WOULD HAVE BEEN? YEAH. SO OUR ESTIMATES AND IS THAT THE PROPERTY OVER THE 30 YEAR PERIOD WITH NO ABATEMENT WOULD GENERATE APPROXIMATELY $75 MILLION IN TOTAL. OKAY. OF THAT 75 MILLION, ABOUT 55 MILLION WOULD ACTUALLY GO TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO IT DOESN'T FULLY MEET THE AMOUNT THE SCHOOLS WOULD ACTUALLY RECEIVE OVER THE OVER THE 30 YEARS. IT DOES THE OTHER NUMBER TO WITH THE PAYMENTS THAT ARE BEING MADE BY BY ADS, INCLUDING THE PILOT, THE ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL. IT EQUATES TO ABOUT A 71% ABATEMENT OVER THAT 30 YEARS. EACH OF THE EACH OF THOSE YEARS, THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD EQUATE TO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NOW, AS YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL BOARD APPROVED THIS 3 TO 2. SO THERE WAS THERE WAS NOT A 5 TO 0, WHICH OBVIOUSLY IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS, YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE REASONING I THOUGHT WAS FAIRLY SOUND TO GO TO 15 YEARS. YEAH. BECAUSE THE 30 YEARS NOW. DATA CENTERS IS STILL A RELATIVELY NEW INDUSTRY.

AND MOST OF THE COMPUTERS IN THE DATA CENTERS ONLY HAVE ABOUT A TEN YEAR LIFE. YEAH. SO WE ARE BUILDING A BUNKER, AND THEN WE PUT COMPUTERS IN, AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT WITHIN ABOUT TEN YEARS THOSE COMPUTERS WILL BE REPLACED AND THEN BE EITHER UPGRADED OR WHATNOT. BUT ANYWAY, THE SCHOOL DECIDED TO GO ON THE 15 YEARS BECAUSE OUR TIF THAT WE HAVE WITH THE WITH THE WATER

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OKAY. YEAH. AND THEN IF I IF I MAY OKAY. WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THE ISSUE OF WATER. YEAH.

AND IT DID GET SOME OF THE CITIZENS CONCERNED BECAUSE WE JUST MADE A BIG INVESTMENT. IT STARTED OUT BY SAYING THEY NEEDED 500,000 GALLONS PER DAY. THAT HAS NOW BEEN REDUCED TO A GUARANTEE OF 50,000 GALLONS PER DAY. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE AMAZON AND NOT ONLY AMAZON, BUT YOU LOOK AT GOOGLE, YOU LOOK AT META, WHICH IS FACEBOOK, YOU LOOK AT MICROSOFT. I MEAN, THERE ARE OVER 5000 DATA CENTERS. SO THIS IS NOT FOR THOSE INDUSTRIES. IT'S NOT A NEW BUSINESS. FOR US IT IS. BUT FOR THE INDUSTRY, IT'S NOT TOTALLY NEW, BUT. THEIR THEIR PROJECTION IS THAT BY 2030 THEY WILL ACTUALLY BE A NET WATER PROVIDER, PROVIDING IT BACK TO THE CITY INSTEAD OF NEEDING TO BUY WATER FROM THE CITY. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT? AND WHAT THE WHAT THE FORECAST IS FOR THAT? THAT'S A BETTER QUESTION FOR MR. WORKMAN. I'M NOT GOING TO QUOTE THERE. OKAY. ALRIGHTY. BUT I DO KNOW THEY'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT WAYS TO CONSERVE AS TIME GOES ON. THERE ARE PROGRAMS OUT THERE THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON. I DO KNOW THAT. I JUST DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS HE'LL HAVE. HE'LL KNOW MORE. OKAY. GOOD. HERE. COUNCILMEMBER, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. YES, EXACTLY. LIKE YOU SAID, AMAZON, LIKE A LOT OF OTHER DATA CENTER COMPANIES PLEDGING TO BE WATER POSITIVE BY 2030, HOW THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS IS WAY OVER HERE FOR ME. I DON'T GET INTO THE ENGINEERING PIECE OF IT, BUT BASED ON OUR INTERNAL REPORTS, WE'VE ALREADY MADE ABOUT HALFWAY PROGRESS TOWARDS THAT GOAL. SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK TOWARDS THAT GOAL EVERY SINGLE YEAR AND STILL THINK WE WILL ACHIEVE IT BY 2030, AS WE'VE SAID. OKAY. SO YEAH, BECAUSE THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD PEOPLE THAT ARE MINDFUL OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS. YEAH, IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH WATER. YEAH. EVEN IF YOU USE 50,000 GALLONS PER DAY, THERE ARE THREE WAYS THAT YOU CAN DISPOSE OF THE WATER. YEAH, THERE IS RECIRCULATING AND THEN REUSE. NOW THAT'S SOMEWHAT LIMITED BECAUSE OVER TIME YOU WILL GET SOME SCALE FORMATION.

YEAH. WHICH OR YOU HAVE TO GET RID OF THE WATER. IT COULD BE DISCHARGED EITHER DISCHARGE IF YOU CLOSE TO A RIVER THAT IT FLOWS INTO THE RIVER OR YOU DISCHARGE BACK TO THE WASTEWATER. YEAH. OR IT COULD BE USED FOR EVAPORATION. SO ANY IDEA AGAIN, I KNOW THAT I'M ASKING FOR YOU TO MAKE A COMMITMENT INTO THE WEEDS, BUT PEOPLE ARE ASKING, SO I'M JUST RELAYING THAT MESSAGE. MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILMEMBER, SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT. IF YOU DON'T MIND SPEAKING AT THE MIC. THANK YOU. I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS EXACTLY FOR THIS SITE, BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT, AGAIN, WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS THOSE WATER POSITIVITY

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YEAH. AND THAT IS WHAT DOES THE CITY GET OUT OF THIS. YEAH. WHEN TWO YEARS AGO WHEN MR. PHILLIPS CAME AND SAID WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A DATA CENTER, AND THEN IT GOT TO MY LORD, IT'S GOING TO BE AN INVESTMENT OF $1 BILLION. YEAH. HOW IS THIS GOING TO HELP THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE? WELL, IF WE SEE THE FIGURES THAT WERE EXPLAINED TO US. YEAH, WE WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE NOW AGAIN. AND THIS DECISION IS SO DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE SEE THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND I THINK IF WE DO MAKE A YES DECISION TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.

YEAH, THAT THAT IS THE THOUGHT BEHIND IT. IF WE MAKE A DECISION FOR THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, SOMEBODY SOMEDAY IS GOING TO SAY, BOY, WHAT WERE THOSE PEOPLE THINKING? YEAH. AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S THAT'S THE REALITY OF THINGS. AGAIN, I REALLY WELCOME THE PROJECT. BUT IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY THAT DOES THE PILOT HAVE TO BE DISTRIBUTED THE WAY THAT IT DOES, OR IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT YOU WOULD SAY, SINCE YOU, YOU, YOU WILL BE USING MAYBE TO A LIMITED ASPECT, BUT YOU WILL BE USING SOME OF OUR SAFETY SERVICES? YEAH. THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE SPENDS ABOUT 16, $17 MILLION IN SAFETY SERVICES. YEAH, AND $100,000 A YEAR IS NOT CUTTING IT FOR US. AND I WOULD HATE TO DO THREE, FOUR YEARS DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE MONEY NEEDS TO GO THERE. THE ROAD NEEDS TO BE PLOWED IN THE WINTER TIME AND EXPENSES NEED TO BE PAID. AND I WOULD HATE TO HAVE THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME BECAUSE OF A DECISION THAT WE MAKE TODAY.

YEAH, HAVE TO BE SETTLED WITH AN INCREASE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT COVERING THE EXPENSES THAT IT TAKES TO HELP YOU OPERATE YOUR BUSINESS. SO IS THERE ANY WAY THAT ANYTHING CAN BE WORKED OUT, THAT THERE WOULD BE A CITY PILOT PROGRAM, THAT THAT COULD BE USED? YEAH. MR. PRESIDENT, MR. COUNCILMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK I'LL MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS. WHEN WE WERE PUTTING THIS PACKAGE TOGETHER, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE FOCUS FOR US WITH RESPECT TO THE PILOT PAYMENTS REALLY WAS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, KNOWING KIND OF THE BUDGETARY SITUATION AND THE FACT THAT WE COULD COME IN AS A GOOD COMMUNITY PARTNER AND HELP THEM OUT WITH THAT AND PROVIDE THEM SOME FUNDS TO HELP OUT WITH THAT. I THINK FROM THE CITY SIDE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER ART OF THE POSSIBLE, RIGHT? WHAT COULD THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY DO FOR THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, NOT JUST NECESSARILY IN DIRECT FINANCIAL BENEFIT THAT COMES TO YOU IN A CHECK EVERY SINGLE YEAR, BUT THE ADDITIONAL BENEFITS THAT GO BEYOND THAT? WE'RE COMMITTING TO 25 JOBS AT $90,000 A YEAR. WE'RE A CONSERVATIVE COMPANY. WE MAKE CONSERVATIVE COMMITMENTS. WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER A LOT MORE JOBS THAN THAT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE HIGH PAYING JOBS. THERE'S GOING TO BE SPIN OFF EFFECTS AS A RESULT OF WHAT WE DO, NOT ONLY FROM THE INITIAL UPFRONT CONSTRUCTION, BUT YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER ABOUT, SAY, A TEN YEAR REFRESH. WE FIGURE 3 TO 5 YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO COME IN, WE'RE GOING TO REFRESH ALL THE EQUIPMENT INSIDE OF OUR DATA CENTERS. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE FULL SAME CONSTRUCTION IMPACT THAT YOU DID IN THE FIRST THREE YEARS, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HUNDREDS OF ENGINEERS AND CABLERS AND NETWORK TECHNICIANS IN THERE REDOING EVERYTHING EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS. SO THE CITY IS GOING TO SEE THE BENEFIT OF THAT AS WELL. AND JUST, YOU KNOW, ALSO OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I'M FROM HERE IN JEROME TOWNSHIP. MY KIDS GO TO JONATHAN ALDER. ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT I SEE IS THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS THERE, WITH THE THINK BIG SPACE. I MEAN, BEFORE I STARTED WITH AMAZON, I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THE THINK BIG SPACE WAS FROM AMAZON. MY KIDS WOULD COME HOME AND TELL ME ABOUT GOING TO IT, AND I'M IN THE DIFFERENT STEM ACTIVITIES THEY GOT TO DO. AND THEN ONCE I STARTED WITH AMAZON, I REALIZED, OH, WAIT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SPONSOR. SO IT'S NOT JUST THE FINANCIAL BENEFIT OF US BEING HERE, BUT IT'S BEYOND THAT. WE BECOME A COMMUNITY MEMBER. AND I THINK IF YOU TALK TO SOME OF OUR PARTNERS IN HILLIARD, WE SPONSOR NUMEROUS EVENTS THROUGHOUT THERE DURING THE YEAR. WE BOUGHT THEIR CHRISTMAS TREE THIS YEAR. WE'RE BIG PARTICIPANTS IN THEIR SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL. SO THE BENEFITS OF AMAZON COMING TO COMMUNITY ARE WELL BEYOND JUST THE FINANCIAL BENEFITS. IT'S KIND OF ALL THE SPIN OFF STUFF THAT COMES ALONG WITH IT AS WELL. OKAY. YEAH. AND THEN THE LAST THING THAT THEN I WON'T HOLD EVERYBODY UP THAT MUCH. BUT AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT A PROJECT AND THEN YOU, YOU LOOK AT THE THOUGHT BEHIND IT AND I MENTIONED THE SCHOOL AS AN EXAMPLE WHY THEY MADE THE DECISION. BECAUSE I THINK THE DECISION WAS SOUND BECAUSE OF

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SO THE FIRST QUESTION I HAD I THINK, ERIC, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THIS REGION IS A HOTSPOT FOR DATA CENTERS. WHY? NO PUN INTENDED. THERE A HOTSPOT, RIGHT. BUT IT IS. AND I AND JOHN CAN PROBABLY ANSWER THIS MORE. I THINK OHIO HAS A VERY, I THINK, BENEFICIAL TAX STATE TAX SYSTEM FOR DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT I THINK ARE THEY'RE ONE OF THE FIRST STATES THAT PASSED IT. SO I THINK IT WAS ENTICING. THIS HAPPENED MANY YEARS AGO, A FEW YEARS AGO. I DON'T KNOW WHEN, JOHN, YOU KNOW, YOU WORK FOR THE STATE OF OHIO. YOU KNOW BETTER THAN I. BUT I THINK THAT AND I THINK THAT THERE'S THERE IS WATER HERE. THERE'S PLENTIFUL YOU KNOW, ELECTRICITY AS WELL.

SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE ENVIRONMENT IS, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE TECH INDUSTRY FOR, FOR PROBABLY THE LAST DECADE AND HAVE BEEN FOCUSED A LOT ON. AND JOHN, YOU COULD PROBABLY ANSWER IT BETTER. I'D SAY EVEN MORE THAN THAT IS PROBABLY THE, THE, THE WEATHER, THE CONSISTENCY OF THE WEATHER THAT WE HAVE IN THIS AREA COMPARED TO OTHER AREAS ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT YOU SEE ALL THESE CATASTROPHIC EVENTS THAT ARE OCCURRING. WE ARE VERY CONSISTENT HERE IN THIS, IN THIS PORTION OF THE MIDWEST. SO I WOULD THINK THAT THAT MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT AS WELL. I KNOW TEN YEARS AGO WHEN HONDA, HONDA ACTUALLY DID A NATIONAL SEARCH FOR THEIR DATA CENTER THAT NOW IS OUT IN RAYMOND, PART OF THEIR CAMPUS, THEY DID A NATIONAL SEARCH AND LOOKED AT MULTIPLE SITES, AND THEY ALL CAME BACK AND THEY SAID THIS WAS THE BEST PLACE TO HAVE IT BECAUSE WE HAVE LESS NATURAL DISASTERS THAN ANY AREA, TO TERRY'S POINT, IN THE, IN THE ENTIRE NATION. SO THEY DECIDED TO PUT IT OUT ON THEIR CAMPUS NOT FAR FROM WHERE WE'RE SITTING TODAY. SO KIND OF INTERESTING. THEY DID A NATIONAL SEARCH FOR THAT. YEAH. AND I THINK A LOT O, A LOT OF IT IS THOSE ESOTERIC FACTORS, RIGHT? WE LOOK AT THE DATA, WE LOOK WHERE THE POWER IS, WHERE THE WATER IS. BUT HONESTLY, A LOT OF IT IS WE GO INTO AN AREA, WE KIND OF HAVE THAT FIRST EXPERIENCE. AND IF IT'S A GOOD EXPERIENCE, IF WE FIND THAT WE'RE WELCOME AND THAT WE HAVE THOSE GOOD PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITY, THEN WE KEEP BUILDING. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE STARTED HERE IN THE STATE OF OHIO BACK IN 2016 WHEN I WAS AT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT. WE WERE TRYING TO HIDE OURSELVES AS VA DATA AT THAT POINT, BUT THAT DIDN'T LAST VERY LONG. I MEAN, SINCE SINCE THEN, WE'VE INVESTED OVER $10 BILLION IN THE STATE OF OHIO BECAUSE WE FOUND THAT STRONG PARTNERSHIP. WE FOUND THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT WANT US TO BE HERE. THAT IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US. WE WANT TO HAVE THAT PARTNERSHIP. WE WANT TO IDENTIFY THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT WANT US TO BE HERE. SO, LIKE ERIC SAID, THIS IS NOW OUR THIRD LARGEST REGION IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, BEHIND VIRGINIA AND BEHIND PORTLAND AND GROWING VERY QUICKLY. WE CONTINUE TO ADD ADDITIONAL ASSETS HERE IN OHIO.

JUST IN DECEMBER, MADE AN ADDITIONAL COMMITMENT OF $10 BILLION INVESTMENT IN THE STATE.

AS WE START TO KIND OF REACH OUT INTO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE OUTSIDE OF THE CENTRAL OHIO REGION. SO OHIO HAS BEEN VERY GOOD TO US. WE'RE ABLE TO FIND THE POWER IN THE WATER THAT WE NEED, AND WE'RE ABLE TO FIND THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. THANK YOU. SO A QUESTION ABOUT WATER. THERE'S A DATA CENTER ALONG INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY JEROME TOWNSHIP, IS THAT CORRECT? THERE ARE TWO CAMPUSES, ONE ON WARNER ROAD AND EACH OF ABOUT 1,000,000FT■!S, BUT ONE ON WARNER, ONE ON INDUSTRIAL. AND THEN WHAT IS THE WATER USAGE OF THOSE SITES AND HOW WERE YOUR HOW WERE YOU ABLE TO MINIMIZE THE DAILY DEMAND REQUIREMENT FOR THIS SITE? WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT THOSE VERSUS THIS, OR AM I ASKING THE QUESTION INCORRECTLY? IS THERE SOME LIMITATION VERY SIMILAR? IT'S A GREAT QUESTION, AND I'M GOING TO PUNT THE BALL TO JEREMY HOYT, WHO CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION BETTER. HE'S THE ONE. OH YEAH, THAT'S AN AWESOME QUESTION. WE JUST GOT RESTRICTED THEM. THAT'S ON THEM TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT. AND THAT'S MUCH SMARTER PEOPLE THAN I TO

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SO THE PEAKS GO THE PEAKS ARE MAYBE NOT OFF THE CHARTS, BUT THEY'RE HIGHER THAN NORMAL.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? YES. I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS HERE. SO YOU TALK ABOUT THE ON SITE STORAGE AND THEN WE HAVE THE 50,000 GALLONS A DAY. SO THAT WOULD ALSO BE THE SOURCE FOR THE ON SITE STORAGE. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE OTHER SOURCES OF WATER. YOU WOULD JUST USE THAT TO REGULATE THE AMOUNT. IS THAT CORRECT? EXACTLY. YES. AND THIS IS A LITTLE MORE TECHNICAL THAN I TYPICALLY LIKE TO GET, BUT WE WOULD FILL UP THOSE TANKS ON AN ON AN OFF PEAK DAY. RIGHT? SO WHEN WE DON'T NEED OUR 50,000 GALLONS PER DAY, WE WOULD FILL UP OUR TANKS, HAVE THOSE TANKS READY TO GO FOR WHEN WE DO NEED THEM ON A PEAK DAY, AND THEN THIS ONE WOULD BE FOR ERIC. YOU HAD MENTIONED EARLIER WHEN YOU SPOKE ABOUT THE 33 CORRIDOR GROUP THAT MEETS AND KIND OF WORKING FOR COLLABORATION IN THE REGION. HAS THIS TOPIC COME UP AT ALL? KIND OF THE BALANCING OF THESE RESOURCES IN THE AREA AS A WHOLE, AND WHAT CURRENT DEVELOPMENT AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT MIGHT LOOK LIKE WITH REGARDS TO THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES? YEAH. NOW, WITH MARYSVILLE POTENTIALLY HAVING A DATA CENTER, DUBLIN, JEROME TOWNSHIP AND US, YOU KNOW, MAYORS WILL HAVE THOSE. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT DATA CENTERS.

AND I THINK OVERALL, AT SOME POINT COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS. HOW MANY DATA CENTERS DO YOU WANT IN YOUR COMMUNITY? BECAUSE I THINK WE AGAIN, WE'RE A HOTSPOT. YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION. THIS IS OUR FIRST, FIRST DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT AND THAT WE'RE SEEING. SO IN THE FUTURE WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SEE MORE REQUESTS FOR DATA CENTERS. I THINK THAT'S IT'S A GIVEN AND MORE HIGH TECH COMPANIES. AND SO WHEN YOU GET INTO BATTERY CELL TECHNOLOGY, SOME OF THESE NEW INDUSTRIES, THEY DO REQUIRE WATER, A LOT OF WATER TYPICALLY, AND THEY ALSO REQUIRE ELECTRICITY. AND SO IT'S TWO TWO ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FACE AS WE LOOK AT SOME OF THESE NEW INDUSTRIES THAT ARE COMING IN DOWN THE ROAD. AND IF I MAY, CENTRAL OHIO, I'M ON SEVERAL, I WILL SAY COMMITTEES AND GROUPS. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CENTRAL OHIO AS A AS A WHOLE IS TRYING TO SOLVE AND COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS FOR.

SO THOSE ARE ONGOING, BUT MAY TAKE A WHILE TO IMPLEMENT FOR CERTAIN. YEAH. AND AEP, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY THERE'S A TIME FRAME OF 8 TO 10 YEARS BEFORE THEY CAN ADD ADD ON NEW DATA CENTERS BEYOND THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED. SO THERE ARE LIMITATIONS TO ELECTRICITY AS WELL. SO WE'LL HAVE TO FIND NEW GENERATION NEW OPPORTUNITIES THAT WAY. BUT BUT AGAIN WE HAVE A DIFFERENT PROVIDER IN AS OHIO WE HAVE URI AS WELL. SO WE HAVE DIFFERENT PROVIDERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY PROVIDING ELECTRICITY TO THESE FACILITIES. SO AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION THAT WE MAY HAVE ENOUGH DATA CENTERS AND WE NEED TO MOVE ON TO MAYBE A DIFFERENT INDUSTRY. SO WE'LL JUST HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS MAYBE A

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ARE YOU GUYS FINE WITH BEING A PART OF THE TREE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM? KIND OF HOW WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND I MEAN, IF NOT ON THAT SITE SOMEWHERE ELSE AROUND AROUND TOWN OR PAYING INTO THAT, WHATEVER THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE PERFECTLY FINE.

SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS DURING THE AGREEMENT. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND LIMIT AS MUCH TREE CLEARING AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. I THINK THE WAY WE ORIENTED OUR BUILDINGS, WE TRIED TO DO THAT, SO WE HAD TO CUT DOWN AS FEW TREES AS POSSIBLE. BUT YES, ABSOLUTELY, WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY. AND ONE OTHER COMMENT TO, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT I DIDN'T DO THIS EARLIER. THE CITY COULD HAVE PROVED A 30 YEAR, 75% ABATEMENT WITHOUT SCHOOL BOARD APPROVAL.

AND THERE'S A REASON WHY WE ARE DOING THE 100 WITH A PILOT, BASICALLY, THAT THE SET UP, IT IS A IT'S AN ADVANTAGE TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BECAUSE IT GOES OFF THEIR STATE FUNDING FORMULA, BECAUSE WHEN YOU THAT LAND OR THAT VALUE INCREMENT DOES NOT GO AGAINST THEM WHEN THEY GET FUNDING FROM THE STATE OF OHIO. SO IT'S A BIG ADVANTAGE TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER ADDED BENEFIT WHEN YOU DO IT THIS WAY VERSUS AND THAT'S WHY WE ENGAGE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THAT'S WHY THEY WERE PART OF THIS PROCESS. YOU COULD HAVE DONE THIS WITHOUT SCHOOL BOARD APPROVAL. JUST TO POINT TO NOTE. BUT WE DID IT TO BENEFIT THE SCHOOLS AS WELL. AND I FORGOT TO ASK TERRY, TERRY, DO YOU HAVE ANY YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS TONIGHT? THERE'S BEEN GREAT QUESTIONS, EXCELLENT DIALOG TONIGHT. SO APPRECIATE THE INTERACTION. THE ONLY THE ONLY COMMENT THAT I WILL ADD IS, YOU KNOW, THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, THEY HAVE CREATED THEIR OUTLINE FOR THE NEXT 100 YEARS. AND BECAUSE OF THE EFFECTS OF, YOU KNOW, CLIMATE, CLIMATE CHANGE AND HOW IT IMPACTS EACH, EACH AND EVERY AMERICAN, YOU KNOW, OHIO IS, YOU KNOW, OHIO AND MICHIGAN AND PENNSYLVANIA ARE DESIGNATED AS HUGE DEVELOPMENT STATES BECAUSE

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON FEBRUARY 24TH,

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AND ITS ACCOMPANYING COMPENSATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, THE MARYSVILLE EXEMPTED VILLAGE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND OHIO HI-POINT CAREER CENTER.

ADMINISTRATION. UNLESS YOU WANT ERIC'S PRESENTATION AGAIN, NOTHING FURTHER. COUNCIL THIS BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON FEBRUARY 24TH. ORDINANCE D SECOND READING

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GLEN DUGGER, ATTORNEY, 37 WEST BROAD STREET, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD BASED ON WITH JUST ONE SMALL THING DUE TO PRIOR COMMITMENTS, MR. WORKMAN AND MYSELF WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE HERE ON THE 24TH. WE CAN BE HERE MAYBE SOMEPLACE ELSE, BUT AT LEAST UNFORTUNATELY, BOTH OF US ARE OUT THAT DAY. SO IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT'S REALLY BURNING FOR YOU TO LET US KNOW, WE'D BE HAPPY TO GET TO THAT. WE JUST WON'T BE ABLE TO ATTEND THAT NIGHT. SO JUST AS A MATTER OF COURTESY, JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW IT'S NOT WE'RE IGNORING YOU, IT'S JUST THAT WE HAVE BOTH. UNFORTUNATELY, MY TRAVEL PLANS AND HIS TRAVEL PLANS FOR WORK RELATED THINGS ARE HAPPEN TO MATCH UP THAT NIGHT. SO AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE, SO I JUST YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ERIC'S GOING TO HAVE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. IF YOU OUT OF COURTESY TO YOU. WE WILL IF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR STATEMENTS THEY'RE REFER THEM TO ERIC AND THEN ERIC WILL RE ERIC WILL THEN EMAIL YOU SO YOU'RE ABLE. YEAH THAT'D BE GREAT. WE'D LOVE TO DO IT THAT WAY. WE DON'T WANT YOU TO MAKE A DECISION FEELING ANYTHING LESS THAN FULLY INFORMED. WE JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT JUST BECAUSE OF SOME OTHER PRIOR BUSINESS COMMITMENTS, WE'RE GOING TO BE OUT. RUN THEM THROUGH ERIC. WE'LL WE'LL BE HAPPY TO KEEP HIM AS WELL INFORMED AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU GUYS.

THIS WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING TITLE ONLY ON FEBRUARY 24TH SEASON. CONFERENCE. OH MY BAD I'M SORRY CITIZENS. COMMENTS. HEARING NONE. COUNCIL HEARING NONE. THIS BE BACK FOR THIRD READING TITLE ONLY ON FEBRUARY 24TH, 2025. ORDINANCE E SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING TO

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IF ADUS WERE TRULY A WIDESPREAD PROBLEM, WE WOULD KNOW BY NOW. INSTEAD, WE'RE RUMINATING OVER TWO APPLICATIONS IN TWO YEARS IN LIEU OF FOCUSING ON REAL ISSUES IN OUR COMMUNITY, SUCH AS WHY? SUCH AS AN UNDERFUNDED SCHOOL SYSTEM, MAINTAINING SAFE STAFFING LEVELS FOR OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES, AND WHY BUSINESSES CAN'T SEEM TO STAY OPEN IN OUR DOWNTOWN. IF YOU STILL NEED CONVINCING ON THIS TOPIC, I WANT TO DRIVE MY OPPONENTS HOME BY PUBLICLY INVITING ANY MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL, PLANNING COMMISSION OR DESIGN REVIEW BOARD FOR A TOUR.

UPON THE COMPLETION OF MY ADU ON CHESTNUT STREET. I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE FROM ANYONE, AND I'M PROUD OF THE WORK I'M DOING AS A LOCAL HOUSING PROVIDER. ADDRESSING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO VOICE MY CONCERNS ON THIS TOPIC, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? SO THE FIRST THING I WANT TO ASK CATHY YOUNG, 425 WEST EIGHTH. THIS IS FOR ASHLEY. IN THE LAST MEETING, YOU ASKED OR SAID SOMETHING ABOUT ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDED. MY HOUSE HAS SIX PARKING SPOTS. DOES THAT MEAN THAT I HAVE TO ADD A SEVENTH, OR DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE JUST NEED TWO FOR THE HOUSE AND ONE FOR THE ADU? SO I NEED THAT ANSWERED.

BUT ACCORDING TO THE LAST MEETING, IT APPEARS THAT OUR PRESIDENT AND COUNCIL THINK THAT THIS IS WHAT AN ADU IS. WE HAVE A SHOPPING CART THAT ANYBODY CAN JUST ROLL THE GARAGE DOOR UP AND LIVE IN. I MEAN, HIS EXACT COMMENTS WERE, DO YOU THINK IF SOMEBODY WAS LIVING IN A GARAGE THAT THE GARAGE DOOR WOULD BE ON THE HOME THAT WAS USED FOR THE AUTOMOBILE WOULD BE THE SAME INSULATION THAT SOMEBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO USE LIVING IN, IN A LIVING QUARTERS INSIDE A GARAGE.

SO THIS IS WHAT I'M PRESUMING, PRESUMING THAT YOU MEANT BY YOUR COMMENTS. SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION TO BE AN INDEPENDENT, NEUTRAL BODY FROM CITY COUNCIL. CITY COUNCIL GIVES GUIDELINES FOR ZONING CODES, BUT RECENTLY IT SEEMS LIKE CITY COUNCIL IS TRYING TO INSERT THEMSELVES IN THE PROCESS, THROWING TANTRUMS AND DISRESPECTING STAFF AND CITIZENS. IN THE MEANTIME, WE SAW IT WHEN MARYSVILLE EAST THREE CAME THROUGH AND WE SAW IT AT JANUARY 27TH. I CAN'T GET IT TO MOVE. I INSERT THE TIMER. ISN'T THIS MOVING? I DIDN'T START THE TIMER. I TRIED TO. THERE WE GO. HERE WE GO.

THAT'S WHAT I STARTED WITH. THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE. IF I WASN'T APPROVED THE ADU.HAT YN THIS UP ON JANUARY 6TH BEFORE WORK SESSION AND INVITED ALL OF YOU TO COME. I HAD ONE RESPONSE FROM MARK ASKING IF HE COULD COME ANOTHER TIME. NONE OF YOU DID YOUR RESEARCH TO COME LOOK AT THIS OR EVEN ASK ME BESIDES MARK, IF YOU COULD COME LOOK AT IT ANOTHER TIME, IF YOU WOULD HAVE COME THROUGH THIS, YOU WOULD HAVE NOTICE THAT THERE'S A KITCHENETTE IN THERE. IT'S GOT PLUMBING, IT'S GOT HEAT, IT'S GOT WINDOWS, THE GARAGE DOORS ACTUALLY GO TO THE GARAGE. WE HAVE BEDROOMS WITH DOORS. WE HAVE A BATHTUB THAT SOMEBODY CAN ACTUALLY SHOWER IN. WE HAVE A SINK, WE HAVE A TOILET. SOMEBODY CAN GO TO THE BATHROOM IN. WE HAVE A CLOSET, WE HAVE HOT WATER AND WE HAVE LAUNDRY SERVICES. IF THEY WANTED A WASHER AND DRYER, WE EVEN HAVE A GARAGE SPACE. SO

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NOW, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT HARDER FOR ME, THEN I WILL LEAVE THE RED GARAGE AND THAT'S WHAT WE WILL KEEP. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT THE CITY TO LOOK LIKE? SERIOUSLY? HI BARB PHILLIPS 235 SOUTH VINE I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN SEEING YOUR PLACE, BY THE WAY. I JUST WANT TO SAY I WAS OPPOSED TO THESE IN THE BEGINNING. I'D EVEN WRITTEN SOME OF YOU WHEN I WAS ON VACATION SAYING PLEASE OPPOSE THESE. I PERSONALLY HAVE WENT THROUGH CATHY'S BEFORE THE PERSON MOVED IN, AND I WAS SHOCKED HOW WONDERFUL THEY ARE. SHE REALLY HAD IT DONE UP RIGHT, AND I THINK THAT IT WAS A BIG ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF WHERE IT WAS AT. AND I REALLY CHALLENGE YOU GUYS. GO OUT AND LOOK AT THESE BEFORE YOU MAKE DECISIONS AND OFF THE CUFF REMARKS, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I WAS OPPOSED. I'M NOT ANYMORE AFTER SEEING WHAT CATHY HAD DONE WITH HERS. AND IF YOU GET ANOTHER CHANCE TO SEE IT, PLEASE GO SEE IT. IF SHE CAN ARRANGE THAT. I'M CHALLENGING ALL OF YOU TO DO THAT, ALL RIGHT? BECAUSE I REALLY FEEL LIKE IT'S A GOOD THING TO DO, AND IT REALLY DOES HELP IMPROVE THINGS HERE. IT ALSO GIVES HOUSING TO PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD HOUSING, WHICH WE HAVE A LOT OF THAT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CANNOT AFFORD HOUSING. AND I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD FOCUS ON AND NOT MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR IT TO BE DONE. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY. FOR THE PARKING? IF STAFF. WE CAN ANSWER THAT. CATHY. SO IT'S ONE IT'S ONE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE OVER THE MINIMUM. SO IF THE STANDARD SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DETACHED HAS TWO MINIMUM TWO SPACES, YOU'RE ADDING AN ADU. YOU JUST NEED TO ADD ONE SPACE. SO IF YOU'RE OVER THAT THEN YOU DON'T NEED TO ADD ANY MORE SPACES FOR MY CLINIC.

YEAH. DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY HAVE ANYTHING? I HAD SOME COMMENTS. SO I THINK A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE WEREN'T DIRECTED AT PERHAPS COMMENTS THAT I HAD MADE, PERHAPS COMMENTS THAT PRESIDENT BREWER HAD MADE. I JUST WANT TO I HAD SPONSORED THE LEGISLATION THAT WENT THROUGH. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE A COUPLE POINTS. ONE, THAT WHAT IS PUT THROUGH IN NO WAY ELIMINATES ADUS AS A POSSIBILITY. IT KEEPS THEM AS A TOOL. AND I SPOKE POSITIVELY ABOUT THAT. AND I HAD ACTUALLY ALSO REFERRED TO TESTIMONY THAT I HAD RECALLED BY RESIDENTS WHO HAD A NEED FOR SUCH A USE IN OUR ZONING, RESIDENTS WHO COULD HIGHLIGHT HOW THAT USE WOULD BENEFIT INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES. AND I THINK THAT THE LEGISLATION THAT'S BEFORE US ALLOWS SCENARIOS LIKE THAT TO STILL HAPPEN. AND IN NO WAY WOULD I WANT TO OR SHOULD, SHOULD LEGISLATION LIKE THIS BE CONSIDERED AS AN INSULT TO RESIDENTS WHO HAVE PUT HARD WORK AND INVESTMENT INTO MAKING PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS? I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE IT. IT SAYS A LOT WHEN YOU'RE WILLING TO INVEST THAT I WOULD SAY WHAT THIS CODE DOES, HOWEVER, IS WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORS, THE RESIDENTS IN THIS COMMUNITY HAVE A VOICE NOT IN THE WAY IN WHICH SOMETHING LOOKS, BUT THE WAY IN WHICH SOMETHING EXISTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH ARE MOST SUBJECT TO SOME OF THESE TYPES OF PROPERTIES GOING UP THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS WITHOUT HOA'S. SO THERE'S NO STEP, THERE'S NO HOA TO SAY, IS THIS AN ADEQUATE CONVERSION THE WAY IT WAS IN OUR WAY, IT IS IN OUR EXISTING CODE IS IT'S A PERMITTED USE. AND WHAT THIS DOES IS IT MOVES IT FROM PERMITTED TO CONDITIONAL, AND IT ALLOWS NOT AN BECAUSE NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THIS DON'T HAVE PROTECTION OF AN HOA. NOW, IT ALLOWS FOR THAT CHECK TO TAKE PLACE, AND IT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY APPROVE SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT BE A GOOD FIT. IT EMPOWERS THE RESIDENTS TO HAVE A VOICE IN WHAT THEY WANT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TO LOOK LIKE. I BELIEVE THAT THE PROPERTIES THAT I THINK THE RESIDENTS SHOWED

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THEY WANT TO SEE IDENTITY PLANNING. I MEAN, WE HAVE THE WE HAVE THE STRATEGIC PLANNING. WE HAVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. RESIDENTS VOTE, VOTE ON THESE THINGS. AND THAT'S WHY WE DO IT.

AND BASED ON, YOU KNOW, OVER MY TIME IN OFFICE, I HAVE EVEN STATED THAT WE SHOULD BE WORKING WITH LOWER INCOME HOUSING, HOUSING CREDITS TO RESTORE THE UPTOWN BUILDINGS ON THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR, TO MAKE MICRO APARTMENTS TO DO THOSE THINGS. I'M ALL FOR THAT BECAUSE I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HALF PINT CLOSING. YEAH, HALF PINTS CLOSING BECAUSE A THEY CAN'T FIND WORKERS BECAUSE NO ONE CAN AFFORD TO WORK FOR $15 AN HOUR AND NO ONE CAN AFFORD TO WORK WITHOUT HEALTH CARE. WE KNOW THAT IN THIS COUNTRY, WE KNOW THERE'S A LABOR PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE BECAUSE CONGRESS CAN'T GET THEIR STUFF TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THIS GENERATION FORWARD. SO, YOU KNOW, NOW IT'S ALL UP TO THE LOCAL LEVEL TO FIGURE IT OUT. THAT'S WHY COLUMBUS IS DOING IT. THAT'S WHY ALL THESE BIG CITIES ARE NOW TRYING TO FIGHT ALL THE ISSUES THAT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL WON'T FIX. SO, YOU KNOW, WE WILL

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THEY HAVE THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF APARTMENTS. IT HAS TO BE MARKET VALUE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL'S ALSO BEEN BEEN KIND OF APPROACHING.

BUT AS WE ALL KNOW, THE COST OF EVERYTHING IS SO MUCH MONEY THAT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT BUILDING SECTION EIGHT HOUSING IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, IT'S VERY HARD TO, QUOTE UNQUOTE, BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE EVERYONE'S LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY IS DIFFERENT. AND SO IT'S HARD TO JUST MAKE A JUST MAKE A PAINT BRUSH AND SAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ALL THIS AFFORDABLE BECAUSE WHAT'S AFFORDABLE TO ONE PERSON MIGHT NOT BE AFFORDABLE TO, YOU KNOW, TO SOMEBODY ELSE. AND I JUST WANT I JUST WANT THAT TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE ALL LIVE HERE.

WE ALL HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE IN DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS, AND WE ALL UNDERSTAND. AND THAT'S TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I MEAN, LET'S BE HONEST. THAT'S THE REASON WHY, YOU KNOW, PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS ELECTED AGAIN, IS TO FIGURE OUT THE FINANCES OF THIS COUNTRY. SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD. I RESPECT YOU AND THANK YOU FOR COMING IN AND TO MISS TO MISS YOUNG, TOO. OUR CONCERN IS HAVING PEOPLE WHO OWN A LARGE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AS RENTAL PROPERTIES TO THEN BE ABLE TO USE THAT PROPERTY AS DUAL INCOME AND NOT ALLOWING THE RESIDENTS TO HUNTER'S POINT, NOT ALLOWING THE RESIDENTS OF IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO HAVE A VOICE WHEN PRETTY MUCH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS LIVE IN AN AREA THAT HAS A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION THAT PROTECTS THIS FROM HAPPENING, THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE NOT PROTECTED NEEDS A VOICE AND WHAT IS GOING ON IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT'S WHY WE BELIEVE A CONDITIONAL USE MOVING FORWARD IS THE RIGHT JUDGMENT.

IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS A BAD THING. IT'S JUST HOW DO WE CREATE A PLATFORM FOR RESIDENTS TO HAVE A VOICE IN WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD? SO I HOPE THAT CLEARS THINGS UP FOR YOU. I KNOW THAT ANY TIME GOVERNMENTS POKING SOMEONE IN THE BACK, THEY MIGHT NOT LIKE IT. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT POINT OF VIEW. IT'S JUST WE'RE TRYING TO DO OUR BEST TO HANDLE ALL THE ISSUES THAT THIS CITY FACES, AND JUST KNOW THAT YOUR VOICE AND YOUR VOICE DOESN'T GO UNHEARD. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST. YEAH. MR. JONES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOUR ADU WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT. SO INVITE ME OVER IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND. AND MISS YOUNG, JUST TO POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I WAS DOUBLE BOOKED JANUARY 6TH WHEN YOU OPENED YOUR ADU UP FOR ME. I HAD THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A RESCHEDULE AND IT HADN'T HAPPENED, SO I PRESUMED IT WAS ALREADY RENTED OUT. IF IT HASN'T BEEN RENTED, I'D BE. I'D LOVE TO SEE IT. I WANTED TO SEE IT THAT NIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY, I WAS DOUBLE BOOKED AND I WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT AT 530. OH, OKAY. WELL, I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO INCONVENIENCE ANYONE, BUT JUST A POINT OF CLARITY. I WE WERE DOUBLE BOOKED, SO. THANK YOU. WELL THANK YOU EVERYBODY. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING TITLE ONLY ON FEBRUARY 24TH, 2025. ORDINANCE G SECOND READING

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ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING FURTHER. CITIZENS. COUNCIL. WAIT. OH, I'M SO SORRY. SAT THROUGH THE WHOLE NIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE PAST MY BAD GUYS. SORRY. HELLO. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MY NAME IS CHRIS GOODMAN. I'M ONE OF THE CO-OWNERS OF HAPPENSTANCE BREWING PROJECT ON EAST FOURTH STREET. I'M ERIC KARAS, ONE OF THE OTHER CO-OWNERS OF HAPPENSTANCE BREWING PROJECT.

WE'D LIKE TO SAY WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF BEING IN THE POTENTIALLY IN THE MAURA AREA. AND WE JUST WANTED TO COME IN AND INTRODUCE OURSELVES. AND IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS THAT NEEDED CLARIFIED OR IF YOU JUST HAD ANY GENERAL COMMENTS, BUT WE JUST KIND OF WANTED TO COME IN AND INTRODUCE OURSELVES. WELL THANK YOU. DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM? JUST LITTLE HISTORY. SO I APPRECIATE YOU GENTLEMEN COMING FORWARD. I THINK I WAS AT HAPPENSTANCE MAYBE OVER CHRISTMAS, HOLIDAY ISH MID-DECEMBER, AND MR. GOODMAN AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE MAURA AND I THOUGHT OF, I THOUGHT, WOW, WE WERE KIND OF IT'S KIND OF A DOING YOU A

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SO I APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE AND INTRODUCING YOURSELVES, BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU AS A, YOU KNOW, NEW ESTABLISHMENT IN THE MARYSVILLE TO KIND OF GROW YOUR BRAND. AND I THINK EXTENDING THE MAURA. WILL ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE A HAVE A BROADER BENEFIT TO, TO OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS IN OUR IN OUR UPTOWN BY, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING PEOPLE TO KIND OF COME AND GO. I THINK WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION LAST WEEKEND WHERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU GET TO BENNY'S OR NOT BENNY'S, LEON'S AND THE, YOU KNOW, MUSIC GETS LOUD. I LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. SO, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THAT'LL CREATE SOME FLUIDITY AND PEOPLE BE ABLE TO ENJOY THEIR UPTOWN EXPERIENCE A LITTLE BIT BETTER. SO APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN. AND ON THAT COMMENT, I DID WANT TO SAY THAT THE OTHER BIG THING THAT WE NOTICED IS WHEN WE FIRST STARTED OPENING, WE NOTICED THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO CARRY MORE CUPS OVER ALREADY.

AND FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO TRY TO GOVERN THAT AND SAY LIKE, OKAY, YOU CAN'T BRING THAT OVER HERE ONTO THIS PROPERTY. YOU HAVE TO GO BACK ON THAT SIDE.

AND SO THE COMMUNITY KIND OF ALREADY THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE HAPPENING, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GET HURT, AND WE DON'T WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST ASSUME. SO THAT WAS ANOTHER REASON WHY WE WANTED TO BRING IT UP IS JUST, YOU KNOW, EITHER WE HAVE TO CREATE A BOUNDARY OR LET PEOPLE COME OVER SAFELY AND NOT HAVE TO HAVE OUR STAFF BE IN A PREDICAMENT WHERE THEY HAVE TO TRY TO GOVERN THAT. ANYBODY ELSE? THE ONLY THE ONLY COMMENT THAT I'LL MAKE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, FIRST I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE BOTH OF YOU, NOT ONLY FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT, BUT OPENING UP A BUSINESS IN THE CITY AND PUTTING ROOTS HERE. AND I WILL PROBABLY SAY THE MAJORITY OF US HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STOP AT YOUR BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S A NICE LAYOUT AND I THINK MAYBE YOUR WIFE MAYBE BAKES THE COOKIES. SO THEY'RE REALLY GOOD.

THEY'RE REALLY GOOD. BUT I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW. BUT ON TOP OF THAT, I, I WILL GO BACK TO I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT A MORE DISTRICT. SO, SO LIKE FOR INSTANCE, FOR YOU, FOR YOU, MR. KRAMER, YOU KNOW WE IT'S KIND OF IT'S KIND OF LOOKED AT AS A MORE DISTRICT NOW IS WHEN A BUSINESS COMES IN OR A BREWERY COMES IN, THEY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE JUST KIND OF GET THEM INTO THE DISTRICT OR HOWEVER THAT WORKS THROUGH CONVERSATION ADMINISTRATION OR HOWEVER THAT WILL WORK. YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT ABOUT FOR A LONG TERM PLAN IS CREATING A BOUNDARY WHERE A MORE DISTRICT WOULD WOULD BE. SO IT'S NOT MORE OF AN SO IT'S NOT REALLY NECESSARILY AN OCTOPUS, BUT MORE OF A DISTRICT. AND THEN WE KIND OF FIT RESTAURANTS AND ENTERTAINMENT WITHIN WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY OF WHATEVER THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF, IF THE BOUNDARY IS THE WAY, THE MORE IS NOW, THEN WE KEEP IT THAT WAY OR HAVE A MORE UNIFIED MORA WHERE BUSINESSES CAN GO IN AND, AND I'M SURE THAT'S A, THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL WILL HAVE EVENTUALLY WITH, WITH SOMETHING. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HAVING MAYBE A COUPLE BREWERY OWNERS ON THAT OR SOMETHING. IF SOME YOU KNOW, IF, IF THAT'S IF THAT'S THE ROUTE THAT COUNCIL TAKES TOO. SO JUST SO YOU KNOW OKAY. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. CAN I ADD I JUST WANT TO ADD A COMMENT. SO I WASN'T ON COUNCIL IN THE PREVIOUS TIME WHERE MORE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES WERE EXPANDED. YOU TALKED ABOUT FINGERS KIND OF EXTENDING A FINGER DOWN THE STREET. I DO REMEMBER RESIDENTS CONCERNS WERE AND I THINK THIS WAS ALSO COMMUNICATED TO YOU ABOUT JUST THE STAFF HAD CONSIDERED THE STREET LIGHTING, AS WELL AS THE CONDITION OF SIDEWALKS, AS WELL AS THE KIND OF THE LENGTH OF THAT WALK THROUGH A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ARE ALL CONSIDERATIONS THAT I REMEMBER BEING DISCUSSED. YOU KNOW, HOW HOW LIT IS THAT STREET THAT SOMEONE'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, TRAVEL FROM THE KIND OF THE UPTOWN AREA TO AN AREA THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OUTSIDE OF THAT GROUPING? HOW WHAT THE CONDITIONS OF THE SIDEWALKS ARE. AND THEN ALSO JUST. YEAH. DOES IT, DOES IT COINCIDE WITH THAT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD? BUT I DON'T IN THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, I DON'T SEE THAT BEING AN ISSUE GIVEN JUST THAT YOU'RE ADJACENT TO OTHER PROPERTIES OF, YOU KNOW, THE SAME TYPE. BUT THANKS FOR BRINGING FORWARD YOUR PERSPECTIVE. I HADN'T CONSIDERED THAT ACTUALLY, THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO POLICE THE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE SITUATION. AND I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD BE IN THAT POSITION. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. YEAH. THANK YOU.

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COUNCIL. MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. OH, DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE? YEAH, I WAS GOING TO JUST AGAIN FOR CLARITY THIS THIS CONNECTING TRAIL. THIS IS GRANT MONEY THAT'S BEING LEVERAGED TO THE STATE CAPITAL, THE STATE CAPITAL PAYING FOR THIS. SO THIS IS OVERALL POSITIVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND IS THIS A TRACE, TRACY RICHARDSON GRANT THAT SHE DID FOR THE BEHALF OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE? TRACY HAS ASSISTED US THROUGH NOT ONLY PHASE ONE OF THE TRAIL, BUT THIS IS PHASE TWO. SO SHE'S BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN IN ALLOWING US TO OBTAIN FUNDS FOR THESE PROJECTS. I WOULD EVEN I WOULD EVEN SAY THAT MRS. RICHARDSON PROBABLY HAS. AND IF, YOU KNOW, SINCE GOING BACK, SINCE I'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION HAS PROBABLY GIVEN US THE MOST AMOUNT OF MONEY DURING HER TIME IN PUBLIC OFFICE THAN ANY OTHER PERSON THAT HAS SERVED IN THAT CAPACITY. I WOULD PROBABLY SAY, AT LEAST GOING BACK TO THE LAST TWO, I WOULD SAY TRACY'S ALWAYS BEEN A STRONG OPPONENT OF FINDING MONEY FOR US, SO FOR THAT, WE'LL ALWAYS BE GRATEFUL FOR HER. SO. SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION AGAIN. ROLL CALL. MR. WOLFF. YES. MR. YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. YES. SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU SAID I THOUGHT YOU SAID ANOTHER NAME, MR. HUNTER. YES. MR. REAMES YES. MISS KRAMER. YES.

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MISS. KRAMER YES. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLF. YES. SEVEN. YES. LEGISLATION PASSES. COMMENTS OF

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SO JUMP IN. THE WATER'S WARM. SO APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE AND APPRECIATE. AGAIN, I SAID IT LAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO, BUT I APPRECIATE ALL THE CANDIDATES THAT THAT THAT SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS AND WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE NOMINATION.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. I WILL SECOND MR. WARNER'S COMMENTS. I WELCOME YOU ABOARD.

I KNOW THIS IS A VERY TIME INTENSIVE KIND OF ROLE HERE, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO

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AND LIKE I SAID, I WON'T SPEAK FOR ANYONE ELSE, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR FRIENDSHIP AND YOUR WORK FOR THE CITY SO FAR. SO HOW CAN YOU SAY I HEARD THAT SAME MESSAGE? BUT ONE THING THAT I WAS SO PLEASED, SINCE I WORKED WITH YOUR DAD ON SO MANY DIFFERENT COMMITTEES, AND I KNOW WHAT KIND OF A GIVING HEART HE HAS. AND YOU MUST HAVE INHERITED THAT FROM HIM BECAUSE IT. WHEN HE WALKED IN AND I THOUGHT, OH, WHAT IS HE DOING UP HERE? AND THEN HE TOLD ME THE WHOLE FAMILY HISTORY. SO IT IS NICE TO SEE THOSE THINGS COME TOGETHER. AND THEN SAYING THAT IT'S ACTUALLY NOT A BIG SURPRISE BECAUSE. SOME MANY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE A VERY GIVING HEART. AND IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE DOING THAT WELL. AND TALKING ABOUT THE GIVING HEART, TONY. TONY. I WAS AT MY SON'S HOME LAST NIGHT WATCHING THE BALL GAME, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, ABOUT 630, THE POLICE KNOCKED ON THE DOOR, WHICH OF COURSE IS NOT A GOOD THING. IF YOUR OLDEST GRANDDAUGHTER, WHO IS 11 YEARS OLD AND THE POLICE KNOCKS ON YOUR DOOR, I'LL COME TO FIND OUT THAT THE AMAZON DELIVERY PERSON HAD DROPPED A BOX IN THE STREET AND IT HAD MY SON'S ADDRESS ON IT, SO HE TOOK THE TIME. HE TOOK HE TOOK THE TIME ON SUNDAY NIGHT TO PUT IT IN HIS CRUISER AND THEN BRING IT UP TO MY SON'S HOUSE. AND WHAT A BIG SURPRISE. SO THANKS AND KUDOS TO YOUR STAFF FOR NOT ONLY LOOKING OUT FOR OUR WELFARE, BUT WHENEVER IT NEEDS TO. THEY GO THE EXTRA MILE, IF YOU WILL, TO GET SOMETHING, AND IT WAS JUST, IT JUST IT JUST DID NOT. WELL, IT JUST REALLY LIT UP THE EVENING FOR US TO SEE SOMEBODY COME OUT AND GOING OUT OF ITS WAY. SO AGAIN, BE SURE TO THANK THE OFFICER FOR AND NOT ONLY YOUR OFFICER, BUT WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THE PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON AT THE MOMENT. AND IT DEFINITELY KUDOS TO YOUR TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR KEEPING US SAFE AND DOING THE WORK THAT YOU DO. SO THANK YOU. AGAIN. I'LL RECYCLE THE MESSAGE FROM FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO WELCOME, MISS KRAMER. GLAD TO HAVE YOU JOIN US. AND I WOULD JUST ALSO SAY FOR ALL OF THE CANDIDATES WHO HAD SUBMITTED THEIR INFORMATION, I SAW AND THEN ALSO LETTERS OF KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHY THEY WANT TO SERVE, I SAW A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM, A LOT OF EAGER MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WILLING AND WANTING TO SERVE IN THAT IN THIS TYPE OF CAPACITY. I'VE BEEN ON THE CLOCK SINCE SIX THIS MORNING, SO I'M VERY TIRED.

BUT IT'S IT CAN BE TAXING SOME NIGHTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE AN ORDINANCE LIST THAT GOES THROUGH THE ENTIRE ALPHABET. BUT WE'LL GET THROUGH AND BUT YEAH, JUST WELCOME TO COUNCIL AND TO ALL OF THOSE MEMBERS WHO HAD APPLIED. YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED. THERE'S AN ELECTION COMING UP THIS SUMMER FOR CITY COUNCIL. THERE'LL BE AT LARGE POSITIONS.

THERE'S ALSO VARIOUS BOARDS. I WAS SERVED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, A VERY GOOD OPPORTUNITY. BUT ALL OF THAT FOR ME STARTED BY PARTICIPATING IN MEETINGS AND

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AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU WOULD HAVE ASKED ME AND WHEN I FIRST RAN, IF I WOULD EVER BECOME PRESIDENT OF COUNCIL, I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SAID PROBABLY NOT. BUT THIS COMMUNITY THOUGHT OTHERWISE. AND THAT'S HOW WHAT HOW I GOT HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE THIS COMMUNITY MADE A CHOICE AND THEY ELECTED ME AND THEY SUPPORT ME. AND I KNOW THAT EVERY DECISION I MAKE, I MAKE SOMEONE UNHAPPY. AND I KNOW THAT EVERY DECISION I MAKE SOMETIMES WILL REMOVE ONE SUPPORTER. BUT I LEAD WITH THE PASSION THAT I CAN MAKE THIS COMMUNITY BETTER, BETTER THAN IT WAS WHEN I ENTERED THIS SEAT.

AND DURING MY TIME IN OFFICE, I'VE BEEN BULLIED MORE DURING MY TIME IN OFFICE, AND I EVER HAVE BEEN MY WHOLE ENTIRE LIFE. AND I WILL. AND I WILL TELL YOU ONE THING ABOUT MY FINANCES. WHEN MY FATHER TOLD MY SISTERS THAT HE WASN'T GOING TO PAY FOR THE UNIVERSITY AT URBANA COLLEGE

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