2. To hear an application for a Planned Unit Development (PUD) Development Plan application for a development known as Marysville North Development located at Parcels 2800090080000, 2800090120010, 2800090140020, 2800090060010, 2800090170000, 2800090180000, 2800090020000, 2800090022000, 2800090040000, 2800090030000, and 2800090021000.

[2. To hear an application for a Planned Unit Development (PUD) Development Plan application for a development known as Marysville North Development located at Parcels 2800090080000, 2800090120010, 2800090140020, 2800090060010, 2800090170000, 2800090180000, 2800090020000, 2800090022000, 2800090040000, 2800090030000, and 2800090021000.]

ITEM ON THE AGENDA. THERE ARE A LOT OF NUMBERS TO READ. OFF TO HEAR AN APPLICATION FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUD. DEVELOPMENT PLAN, APPLICATION FOR A DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS MARYSVILLE NORTH DEVELOPMENT. LOCATED AT. PARCELS 2800090080000280009012001028000, 014002, 0280009006001,

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02800901700002800090180000280000 AND 280009002100. YOU KNOW YOU SAY ZERO ENOUGH. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE MAKING UP WORDS. YOU ACTUALLY MISSED A COUPLE. SON O. I'LL START AGAIN. IT'S. IS THERE AN APPLICANT HERE TO PRESENT? YOU WANT ME TO GO FIRST OR YOU? OH, NO. I'M. I'M PERFECT. SO WE DID RECEIVE RESPONSES TODAY, BUT I CAN SPEAK FOR A FEW PEOPLE. WE DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO REVIEW RESPONSES. SO I CAN GO THROUGH INDIVIDUAL PIECES, AND I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT A NUMBER OF THE CHANGES THAT WE AGREED TO IN HERE IN A COUPLE AREAS. OKAY. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HEARING US TONIGHT. BARBARIC ROCKFORD DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENTS. 1100 INNOVATION WAY, SUITE D. SO THIS IS OUR MARYSVILLE NORTH PROJECT. WE BROUGHT IT THROUGH SKETCH PLAN WITH YOU GUYS, BUT THIS PROJECT STARTED PROBABLY MORE THAN A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. WELL, PROBABLY ABOUT 14 MONTHS AGO. AND THERE WAS A FOCUS AREA THAT WAS DONE, LED BY STAFF WITH THE CITY. THE CITY COUNCIL AND THAT SORT OF STUFF ON THIS AREA. OUTSIDE COUNSEL, THE EDGE GROUP WAS, WAS ACTUALLY HIRED TO COME IN AND PUT SOME THEMES AND SOME IDEAS AROUND THIS. IF YOU REMEMBER, PROBABLY ABOUT A TWO YEARS AGO WHEN PULTE BROUGHT AMERON WOODS THROUGH OR EMERALD MEADOWS THROUGH. THERE WAS A FAIRLY ENERGETIC IS HOW I WILL PUT IT DISCUSSION BETWEEN DONALD AND JR ABOUT THE 99 ACRES THAT PULTE WAS BRINGING THROUGH AT THE TIME. AND DONALD'S POSITION IS, WAS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE VIEWING THAT PROJECT WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE FULL 400 ACRES BETWEEN 4 AND 31 JR. ROUSH TOOK THE OPPOSITE SIDE. LOVE HIM TO DEATH, BUT HE TOOK THE OPPOSITE SIDE IN THAT WE CAN'T LOOK AT 400 ACRES BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY 99 IN FRONT OF US. SO FROM THAT DISCUSSION AND A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, THE FOCUS AREA CAME THROUGH. THEY DID PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL. WHAT ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO? FIVE MONTHS AGO SOMEWHERE? I THINK IT WAS MAYBE. YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE PICKED IT UP FROM THERE. WE TOOK THE COMP PLAN, WE TOOK FOCUS AREA AND WE CAME THROUGH IT. AND TO KEEP CONTINUITY, WE ACTUALLY DECIDED TO WORK WITH THE EDGE GROUP WAS THE SAME ORGANIZATION THAT THE CITY HAD WORKED WITH. SO WE PICKED UP THE EDGE GROUP AND THEN WE CONTINUED IT THROUGH. SO YOU SAW THE SKETCH PLAN IN JANUARY. WE TABLED. WE WENT AHEAD AND FILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN WE TABLED LAST MONTH BECAUSE WE DID GET QUITE A FEW COMMENTS FROM CITY. I'VE ALSO HAD SOME COMMENTS WITH CITY COUNCIL AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND THEN WE GOT A SECOND ROUND OF COMMENTS FROM THE CITY AS WELL HERE RECENTLY. THOSE WERE THE ONES THAT WE RESPONDED TO. YESTERDAY AND LAST NIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THIS AT A HIGH LEVEL. WE CAN GO BACK THROUGH ALL THE DETAIL. SO FROM A VICINITY MAP, ACTUALLY JEFF'S MAP WAS A LITTLE BETTER BECAUSE IT HIGHLIGHTED IT. BUT IT IS ESSENTIALLY, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE FAMILY, IT'S THE LEE PARCEL AND THE FITZGERALD PARCEL, AS WELL AS THE CHAPMAN FORD PARCELS ALONG FOUR ON FOUR AND 31. SO IT IS ROUGHLY 240 SOME ACRES. ANNEXATIONS, A FEW MORE ACRES, BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAS ASKED US TO BRING IN A NUMBER OF RIGHT AWAY PIECES THAT HAVE BEEN KIND OF BEEN LEFT OUT THERE FOR A WHILE. SO WE'RE ANNEXING THOSE IN AS WELL TO CLEAN UP THE RIGHT OF WAYS. SO IT'S IT TO THE SOUTH. IT BORDERS THE COOK COOK POINT APARTMENTS.

THE WESTERN BORDER IS 31. THE NORTHERN BORDER IS EMERALD MEADOWS, AS WELL AS AARON WOODS ROAD. AND THEN OUR EAST SIDE BORDER IS FOUR. SO THIS IS THE ILLUSTRATIVE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THIS. I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE DETAIL HERE IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES BACK. BUT ESSENTIALLY THE PIECES THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT HERE IS WE HAVE FOCUSED ON CONNECTIVITY. SO THIS PARCEL HAS TEN ACCESS POINTS FROM A VEHICULAR STANDPOINT, INCLUDING TWO ACCESS POINTS OFF OF 31. OUR PRIMARY ACCESS POINTS FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE SINGLE FAMILY, BECAUSE OF MILL VALLEY, IS ALL GOING TO BE OFF OF FOUR.

SO OUR MAIN ACCESS POINTS INTO THE MAJORITY OF THAT WILL BE OFF OF FOUR ON TWO NEWLY CREATED ACCESS POINTS. BUT IF YOU START DOWN HERE IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER AND I'LL GO THROUGH THE USES HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, YOU HAVE WE'RE GOING TO START RIGHT HERE. YOU HAVE DON DRIVE COMING INTO A RETAIL AREA. AS YOU GO CLOCKWISE YOU HAVE THE MAIN FULL ACCESS OFF OF 31 AND IS GOING TO COME IN TO THE SEVEN ACRE RETAIL AND THEN INTO THE HIGHER DENSITY TOWNHOMES, SINGLE

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FAMILY HOUSES A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO THE NORTH THAT EXHIBIT. I JUST SAW THAT IT SAYS FULL. WE'VE AGREED TO A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT THERE ONLY BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO THE ROUNDABOUT TO THE NORTH. SO THIS ACCESS POINT RIGHT HERE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT. BUT WE'LL WORK THAT OUT IN THE ENGINEERING. BUT WE PRETTY MUCH AGREED TO THAT. GOING ACROSS THE TOP OF THAT SECTION WE HAVE THE FIRST STUB ROAD INTO EMERALD MEADOWS. IF YOU GO UP TO THE NORTH, YOU'LL SEE THE SECOND STUB ROAD INTO AMERAN MEADOWS TO LINK THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS. WE HAVE ONE ACCESS DRIVE, AND THAT IS INTENTIONAL ON AMARIN WOODS ROAD. THAT IS A VERY KIND OF THIN WIDTH TOWNSHIP ROAD. SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PUT A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THAT. AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO USE FOR THE MAJORITY OF THIS, IT'S NOT AN ACCESS POINT INTO OUR COMMUNITY. BUT IF YOU LOOK HOW AMARIN WOODS GOES OVER TO FOUR, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY ENGINEER BOTH ASK US TO CLEAN UP THAT ACCESS POINT, BECAUSE IT'S A VERY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION UP THERE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T COME TO 90 DEGREE. SO WE'VE AGREED TO BRING THAT ROAD DOWN, WHICH WAS ALSO PART OF THE FOCUS AREA, BRING THAT ROAD DOWN TO A 90 DEGREE ANGLE ON FOUR. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE ONE OF OUR MAJOR ACCESS POINTS. JUST BECAUSE OF THE ROAD WIDTH UP THERE AS YOU COME DOWN FOUR FROM THE SOUTH INTO THE LARGER KIND OF THE LIGHT YELLOW SUB AREA. AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. THAT'S OUR FIRST MAJOR ACCESS POINT INTO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES. WHEN YOU COME DOWN ACROSS FROM THE WATER TOWER DOWN HERE, THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR MAIN ENTRANCE HERE. AND THAT'LL BE A FULL, FULL INTERSECTION. KYLE WILL LOVE IT. THEN I'M GOING TO SAY THIS. WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT'S GOING TO BE A ROUNDABOUT THERE. SO THAT ROUNDABOUT WOULD COME IN AND IT COMES IN AND HIGHLIGHTS WHAT WE THINK IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BETTER PIECES OF THIS SITE.

WE'RE CREATING A PARK SYSTEM, A CONNECTIVITY TO EVERYTHING AROUND IT. SO IF YOU LOOK WE GOT A CORE PARK SYSTEM THAT RUNS HORIZONTALLY THROUGH THE PROJECT. WHEN YOU SEE THOSE PONDS, THE SCALE OF THOSE PONDS, THE POND TO THE NORTH AND THE LARGE POND RIGHT THERE AROUND THE LANDSCAPING COMPANY, THOSE ARE APPROXIMATELY FOUR ACRES. SO THESE ARE GOING TO BE VERY LARGE PONDS. WE COULD MAKE THEM A LOT SMALLER IF WE WANTED TO. WE COULD MAKE THEM DEEPER FROM A DETENTION STANDPOINT, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO USE UP THAT AREA AND REALLY CREATE AN IMAGE WHEN YOU'RE COMING IN THAT WAY. AND AGAIN, THE FOCUS AREA WAS FOCUSED ON THIS TOO, BUT WE HAVE A HORIZONTAL CONNECTION. OUR TRAIL SYSTEM IS GOING TO CONNECT INTO AMARIN, AMARIN MEADOWS TO THE NORTH. IT'S GOING TO CONNECT OVER INTO MILL CREEK. SO OUR RESIDENTS AND THEIR RESIDENTS CAN GO BACK AND FORTH, YOU KNOW, AS THEY TRY TO GET OVER TO THE BASEBALL FIELDS EAST OF FOUR, OR OUR RESIDENTS TRY TO GET OVER TO THE RESERVOIR AND GO ACROSS THE NEW BRIDGE AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. FROM A NORTH SOUTH STANDPOINT, WE'VE CREATED A TRAIL SYSTEM ALL THE WAY UP TO AMARIN, AMRON WOODS, ALL THE WAY DOWN THROUGH THE CORE OF THE PROJECT, THE CENTER PARK HERE.

IS THREE AND A HALF ACRES. SO IT'S A VERY LARGE PARK WHEN IT COMES TO POCKET PARKS. NORMALLY POCKET PARKS ARE A LOT SMALLER, BUT THAT COMES ALL THE WAY DOWN. CENTERED IN THE MIDDLE IS A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT I'LL SHOW YOU SOME IMAGES OF THAT WE'RE GOING TO CREATE. IT'S GOING TO HAVE A POOL, IT'S GOING TO HAVE A COMMUNITY AREA THERE. AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT PLAYGROUNDS IN THERE. DIFFERENT PLAYGROUNDS, VERY SIMILAR TO HOW YOU SEE AN ELEMENTARY OR MIDDLE SCHOOL WHERE YOU HAVE AGE APPROPRIATE PLAYGROUNDS. THEY'RE KIND OF SEPARATED, YOU KNOW, SO THE BIGGER KIDS DON'T GET ON THE LITTLE KIDS STUFF. AND THEN ONE OF THE COMMITMENTS WE MADE TO THE LANDOWNER BEFORE SHE PASSED WAS WE WOULD KEEP THE OHIO POND DOWN HERE ON THE SOUTH PIECE. SO SHE WAS VERY PROUD THAT THAT FAMILY DUG THAT POND AND HAD ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE THAT FLEW OVER AND WOULD MENTION THEY SAW THE OHIO POND, AND IT WAS A COMMITMENT THAT WE MADE. SO WE ARE HIGHLIGHTING THAT. THE OTHER PIECE THAT WE'RE DOING IS WE ARE OUR FROM A FROM A KIND OF A CONSERVATION STANDPOINT. IF YOU LOOK ALL THE WAY UP IN THE RIGHT HAND CORNER WHERE WE'VE GOT THE FOUR ACRE POND UP AT CAMERON WOODS AND FOUR, YOU'LL SEE A BIG OLD GREEN DOT THERE THAT IS 100 YEAR OLD OAK THAT IS STANDING UP THERE. THE FARMERS DIDN'T CUT IT DOWN AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO CUT IT DOWN. SO WE'VE ACTUALLY INVENTED OUR DESIGN THERE. WE WERE GOING TO MOVE SOME SINGLE FAMILY OVER UNTIL WE FIGURED OUT THAT THAT TREE WAS THERE. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY KEEPING THAT. AND I GOT A FEELING THAT'S GOING TO BE THE 100 YEAR OLD OAK PARK. BUT THAT'S THE MAIN HIGHLIGHT HERE IS THE ACCESS AND ACCESSIBILITY TO THIS PARCEL. VERY FEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS OF THIS SCALE HAVE TEN ACCESS POINTS, SO TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED ALL OVER. AND THEN OUR CONNECTIVITY FROM A TRAIL STANDPOINT, I WILL SHOW YOU THE TRAILS ON A SEPARATE SLIDE BECAUSE THEY KIND OF GET LOST IN IN THIS PIECE HERE. SOME OF OUR MOST RECENT CHANGES FROM STAFF COMMENTS, CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS AND SOME OTHERS WAS TO WIDEN. WE'VE ACTUALLY TAKEN OUT TEN LOTS ON THIS VERSION OF IT. THAT NUMBER WE'RE GOING TO BE JUST WE'RE AT

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690 OVER ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE HERE. THIS SKETCH PLAN AND WHAT WE STARTED WITH WAS 738. AND THERE WERE TEN MOST RECENT LOTS THAT WE TOOK OUT. I'M GOING TO JUST HIGHLIGHT WHERE THOSE WERE.

WE OPENED UP THIS AREA HERE. WE OPENED UP THIS AREA HERE AND THIS CORRIDOR GOING UP. WE TOOK LOTS OUT HERE AND MADE THAT CORRIDOR HEADING TO THE NORTH. FROM A WIDTH STANDPOINT, THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE CLOSE TO 100, 150FT WIDE THERE. SO WE TOOK OUT 1011 I THINK IT WAS TEN LOTS TO OPEN UP THOSE CORRIDORS. AND WE PUT ALL THE TREES THAT YOU SEE IN THERE IN THAT AREA.

THE OTHER MOST RECENT CHANGE IS IN THE POCKET PARKS. WE'RE NOT SHOWING A LOT OF TREES. WE GOT THE REQUEST TO POPULATE MORE TREES IN THAT AREA. SO THOSE WERE THE MOST RECENT CHANGES FROM KIND OF THE HIGH LEVEL PLAN. SO THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE SLIDE YOU SAW IN SKETCH PLAN.

OTHER THAN IT WAS BUBBLE PLANS THEN. SO I'M GOING TO START OVER HERE IN THE LEFT HAND CORNER. WE GOT 7.4 ALMOST 7.5 ACRES OF RETAIL. RETAIL IS NOT REALLY A BIG PART OF THIS PLAN, BUT WE ARE CONTINUING THE RETAIL THAT IS CREATED DOWN AT COOK'S POINT THAT RUNS THERE. WE'RE VERY SPECIFIC ON THE TYPE OF RETAIL WE WANT. I'VE GOT A SLIDE FOR THAT, BUT WE'VE ONLY GOT SEVEN ACRES OF RETAIL THERE THAT KIND OF FINISHES THAT OUT. AND FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT, WE EXPECT THAT RETAIL TO BE PUSHED FORWARD ALONG 31 WITH THE PARKING BECAUSE WE HAVE DON DRIVE COMING UP THE BACK WITH THE PARKING BEHIND THE BUILDING BECAUSE THAT WILL SHELTER HEADLIGHTS AND THAT SORT OF STUFF FROM SHINING ACROSS 31 INTO SOME OF THE HOUSES. AND THE OTHER PIECE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME BUFFERING AND STUFF WE'LL DO FOR THE BACKS OF OUR HOUSES FROM THAT RETAIL, BUT WE THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A BETTER KIND OF IMAGE. WE'LL ALSO PUT THE BIKE TRAIL AND SIDEWALKS ACROSS THE FRONT, AND PEOPLE CAN ENTER OFF OF THAT 31 WALKWAY, BUT MOST OF THE PARKING IS GOING TO BE SITUATED INTO THE BACK AS WE GO. NOW MY LETTERING IS OFF HERE, AND YOU REALIZE WHEN YOU COME AROUND BECAUSE I'M GOING TO GO TO SEE NEXT. SO BOTH THE FOCUS AREA AND OUR PLAN WAS TO DO A VARIETY OF KIND OF HIGHER DENSITY PRODUCT. THIS IS ONE OF THE TRADE OFFS. WHEN YOU HAVE 30% COMMON AREA YOU TRY TO HAVE SOME TRADE OFFS. SO WE DO HAVE SOME SOME 40 FOOT LOTS THERE AND SOME TOWNHOMES. THE DARK PURPLE ON THE LOWER SECTION OF THAT IS THE TOWNHOMES. WE WERE ABLE TO FIND A BUILDER THAT CREATED NEW PRODUCT FOR THIS. AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE RELOADED TOWNHOMES.

THAT'S USUALLY A VERY DIFFICULT ANYTHING RELOADED IS A DIFFICULT THING TO DO BECAUSE IT DOUBLES PRETTY MUCH YOUR STREETS. BUT WE FOUND A BUILDER THAT WAS ABLE TO INCORPORATE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PRODUCT THERE. SO YOU HAVE REAR LOADED TOWNHOMES, AND THEN HE'S GOT A SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCT THAT'S ON A 40 FOOT LOT. AND THESE ARE SMALLER LOTS. OUR TARGET MARKET THERE IS GOING TO BE YOUNG COUPLES OR YOUNG FAMILIES. IT IS NOT MEANT FOR FAMILIES THAT ARE GOING TO RAISE KIDS FOR FIVE, SIX, SEVEN YEARS. OUR CRITERIA HERE FROM A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION WILL NOT ALLOW TRAMPOLINES, WILL NOT ALLOW SWING SETS AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF TO BE IN THERE. WE EXPECT MOST OF THE REAR LOADED PRODUCT TO HAVE A COURTYARD WITH A FENCED IN AREA BETWEEN THAT, WHETHER IT'S A TOWNHOME OR A SINGLE FAMILY. I'VE GOT SOME IMAGES OF WHAT THE LOTS WILL BE HERE IN THE BACK, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE A VERY COMPACT AREA. BUT IT IS TARGETED FOR A VERY SPECIFIC MARKET SEGMENTATION, WHICH IS THAT YOUNG COUPLE RIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE, OR THEY MAY HAVE AN INFANT OR, YOU KNOW, 2 OR 3 BEFORE KINDERGARTEN, BEFORE SCHOOL, AND BEFORE THEY BECOME REALLY, REALLY ACTIVE. SO THAT IS THE SUB AREA. SEE, WE'VE GOT 31 ACRES THERE. WE'VE GOT A MAXIMUM OF ABOUT 188 LOTS THERE. OBVIOUSLY THAT OPENS UP INTO THE OHIO POND. AND WE HAVE SINGLE LOADED THAT ROAD FROM THE TOWNHOMES OVER TO THE SINGLE FAMILY. AS I JUMP UP INTO THE CORE, THE LIGHT YELLOW HERE, THIS IS THE CORE SINGLE FAMILY, 97 ACRES. WE HAVE 55 AND 67 FOOT LOTS MAXIMUM, ABOUT 360 367 UNITS THERE. I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY BE A LITTLE LESS THAN THAT, BUT THAT'S THE MAXIMUM NUMBER THAT UNITS THAT WE CAN DO THERE. THOSE ARE SINGLE FAMILY.

THE KIND OF DARKER YELLOW IN THERE ARE THE LARGER LOTS, WHICH WILL BE UP AGAINST THE COMMON AREAS, AS YOU KNOW, PREMIUM TYPE OF LOTS COMING DOWN INTO. I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT COLOR TO CALL THAT, BUT SUBAREA D THIS IS A LITTLE SMALLER LOT MEANT TO BE FOR A LITTLE BIT SMALLER HOUSE THAN THE LARGER HOUSES TO THE NORTH. 52 FOOT LOTS, 34 ACRES, 145 SO OH, SUB AREA E THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A BRING ALONG. THIS PARCEL WAS AN INDIVIDUAL HOUSE WHEN COOK'S POINT CAME IN. THE DEVELOPERS OF COOK POINT ACQUIRED THAT AND THE CITY ASKED ME TO BRING THAT IN. SO WE'RE JUST ZONING THAT COMMERCIAL. BUT IT'S REALLY PROBABLY JUST GOING TO END UP BEING COMMON AREA BECAUSE IT'S PROXIMITY, BUT THAT THE DEVELOPER ON COOK'S POINT BOUGHT THAT WE WERE ANNEXING. IT WASN'T IN. SO WE JUST BROUGHT IT THROUGH AND JUST REZONING IT AS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO AND IT'S ONLY THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE. SO IT'LL KIND OF TIE INTO THEIR DEVELOPMENT. BUT AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE HERE HOW THE HOUSE IS BACK TO A LOT OF THE COMMON AREAS.

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WE'VE GOT THE CENTER PARK AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER IN THE MIDDLE, WHICH I'LL GO THROUGH HERE IN A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL. SO THIS IS JUST A BREAKOUT, JUST KIND OF A BLOW UP. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THIS IMAGE ACTUALLY GOT IT. SO WE SHOW THE RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT TO THE NORTH THAT COMES INTO THE SINGLE FAMILY. WE INTENTIONALLY ARE MAKING THAT ENTRANCE DIFFICULT TO GET TO THE RIVER AND TO THE RETAIL FROM THERE, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE A SERVICE AREA INTO THE RETAIL. WE WANT THAT TO BE A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT, REALLY FOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS. SO THE RETAIL IS THERE OHIO POND. THIS IS JUST A BIGGER SCHEMATIC OF THAT AREA. I TALKED ABOUT THE RETAIL USES. WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF USES HERE LISTED. WE TOOK NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND WE KIND OF BROKE IT DOWN. THIS IS ALL LOCAL RETAIL. WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT DOING LARGE FACILITIES, BUT WE'RE FOCUSED ON DAYCARE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WITH THE NUMBER OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A SERVICE THAT PEOPLE NEED. PERSONAL SERVICES, HAIR, NAIL SALONS, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. RESTAURANTS WE PREFER. SIT DOWN. YOU'VE GOT TACO BELL JUST IN THE SOUTH AND YOU'VE GOT BURGER KING AND I MEAN FAST FOOD JUNKIE, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TARGETING HERE. WE MAY HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH, BUT IF WE DO A DRIVE THROUGH, IT'S LISTED AS CONDITIONAL. WE'LL COME BACK AND EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY WE NEED A DRIVE THROUGH. RETAIL SALES, SPECIALTY BEVERAGES AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. OR RESTAURANTS AND BARS. IT'S NOT MEANT FOR BARS THAT ARE GOING TO BE OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, 12 ONE IN THE MORNING, THAT SORT OF THING BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY. SO LISTED UNDER CONDITIONAL HOUSING OR I'M SORRY, CONDITIONAL USES.

WE DID HAVE MULTIFAMILY BEING ABLE TO BE ON HERE. IT WAS ONE OF THE KIND OF CHARACTERISTIC THINGS THAT THE FOCUS AREA KIND OF SHOWED. YOU CAN SEE ON THE UPPER CORNER WHERE YOU COULD HAVE IT IN DISCUSSIONS WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE, MOSTLY THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS AT THE NEXT LEVEL. THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING RENTAL OR IN MULTIFAMILY, AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE COMMITMENTS I MADE WHEN WE DID COPPER RUN AT THE INTERSECTION OF 33 AND 31.

THEY KNEW WE WERE WORKING WITH THESE LANDOWNERS UP HERE, AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, I TOLD THEM THAT I WOULD NOT BRING ANOTHER MULTIFAMILY. YOU GOT COOKS POINTS, YOU GOT COPPER RUN THERE. YOU HAVE TWO ON THE NORTH SIDE AND POSITIONED, YOU KNOW, IT JUST DOESN'T THAT AREA DOESN'T NEED ANOTHER THREE STORY WALK UP. SO I DID COMMIT TO IT. THIS WAS AN IDEA THAT CAME OUT OF THE FOCUS AREA. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S A MODIFICATION THAT THAT WE MADE TODAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO NIX THAT. SO IF WE DO HAVE A SECOND STORY, IT'S STILL AVAILABLE FOR OFFICE AND THAT SORT OF THING. BUT THIS IMAGE HERE MIGHT NOT BE EXACTLY WHAT WE DO, BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW THE ROAD AND THE PARKING IS BEHIND THIS LOWER IMAGE. AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE OF THE FOCUS AREA AND STAFF ASKED ME TO ADD IS CHARGING STATIONS. WE WILL COMMIT TO ONE AND OUR USERS OF THIS RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT, OR MAYBE EVEN SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT THAT ARE THERE WANT TO USE IT. AND IF IT HAS ADDITIONAL DEMAND, THEN WE'LL ADD SOME MORE BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE AT THE POINT IN TIME WE PUT ONE IN. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME SOME RENDERINGS. THESE ARE NOT COMPLETELY DONE FROM THE STANDPOINT. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE MATERIALS AND OUR COMMITMENT TO COVERING EXPOSED FOUNDATIONS AND STONE, BRICK AND SOME UPGRADED MATERIALS HERE. BUT THIS IS KIND OF AN IDEA OF WHAT OBVIOUSLY THE FRONT LOADED PRODUCT WILL LOOK LIKE. OVER HERE ON THE LEFT IS WHAT THE REAR LOADED PRODUCT WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND I'VE GOT SOME SOME OTHER IMAGES AND THEN THE TOWNHOMES AND EVERYBODY ASKED ME, WHAT'S THE BROWN, YOU KNOW, VERTICAL PIECE. THAT'S THE FIREWALL IN BETWEEN THE TOWNHOMES. IT WOULD BE MADE OUT OF BRICK OR SOMETHING. SO PORCHES ON THE MAJORITY OF THEM, THE ONE ON THE RIGHT TOWNHOME. BUT THESE AREN'T COMPLETELY FINISHED. I MEAN, THEY ARE STILL MAKING THIS PRODUCT. GEORGE AYCOCK ACTUALLY DESIGNED THIS PRODUCT BEFORE HE PASSED A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. BUT THEY ARE GOING TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL ELEVATIONS, ETC, AT LEAST TO THE SINGLE FAMILY AREAS. WHEN I TALKED ABOUT SITE PLANS, THESE ARE ON 100 110 FOOT LOTS. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF REQUESTED TO HELP UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. AS YOU LOOK AT OUR TEXT, YOU WILL SEE THAT NORMALLY FRONT YARD SETBACKS ARE DEFINED BY ONE OF THREE THINGS EITHER THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE LOT LINE OR EASEMENTS. IF THEY'RE THERE AND IT KIND OF FLEXIBLE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE REAR LOADED, THE FRONT LOADED AND THE DIFFERENT NATURES HERE WE HAVE DEFINED THAT OUR MEASUREMENT WILL BE FROM THE FRONT OF THE LOT. AND THE ONLY REASON BEING IS THE PROFILE THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. HERE WE ARE AGREEING TO FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS. WE ARE AGREEING TO SEVEN FOOT STREET LAWNS IN THIS AREA. AND THEN USUALLY THE RIGHT OF WAY IS ONE ADDITIONAL FOOT BEYOND THAT. SO BETWEEN THE SEVEN AND THE FIVE AND THE ONE, WE'RE 13 FOOT BACK. WE'RE ASKING FOR 20 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACKS. AND IF IT IS FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEN THAT IS GOING TO MAKE IT 30 PLUS FEET BACK. SO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP

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THESE CLOSE TO THE ROAD IMPACT, ESPECIALLY WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE GARAGES ARCHITECTURALLY.

WANT THOSE CLOSER. SO YOU START OVER ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE YOU CAN SEE WE ARE BRINGING SIDEWALKS OUT TO THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK FROM THE TOWNHOMES. ALL THE TOWNHOMES WILL BE REAR LOADED, AND YOU CAN SEE THE GARAGES ARE CONNECTED IN THE BACK, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE WALKING IF THEY PARK THEIR FRIENDS OR WHATEVER PARK IN THE BACK, THEN THEY DON'T LIKE WALKING THROUGH THE GARAGE TO GET THERE. SO WE'VE GOT A WALKWAY. IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE PAVED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT THE AREA IN GREEN KIND OF IN EACH LOT, WE EXPECT THOSE PROBABLY TO BE FENCED OFF, THAT THOSE WILL BE KIND OF PRIVATE LITTLE SMALL BACKYARDS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. NOW THEY CAN HAVE IF THEY HAVE A YOUNG KID, THEY CAN HAVE ACTIVITIES, THEY CAN HAVE DOGS AND STUFF OUT THERE. BUT THE HOA IS GOING TO RESTRICT TRAMPOLINES, POOLS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. THIS ISN'T THE TARGET MARKET THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. SAME THING HERE. WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT. SO FROM THE MIDDLE SECTION HERE WHICH IS THE REAR LOADED, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO A ZERO LOT LINE. NOT SAYING WE ARE, BUT WE WROTE IT THAT WAY. IF YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE EPCON PRODUCT IN MARYSVILLE, THEY OPERATE ON A ZERO LOT LINE. AND WHAT IT DOES I'M GOING TO COME OVER HERE. IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKYARD BECAUSE IT TAKES THE SIDE YARDS, WHICH ARE PRETTY MUCH JUST GREEN AND SOMETIMES LANDSCAPED AND THEN SOME NORTH SIDE. IT DOESN'T GROW THE UNUSABLE BECAUSE YOU GOT FIVE FOOT LONG AND FIVE FOOT ON THE ZERO LOT LINE. WHAT IT DOES IS THE NEXT ONE WILL BE ZERO LOT LINE HERE. SO IT WOULD HAVE ALMOST A BLANK BLOCK COMMITTED TO THE BLANK WALLS, BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A TRANSIT WINDOW UP AT THE TOP THAT DOESN'T LOOK INTO THAT SPACE, BUT IT TAKES ALL OF THE SETBACKS ON THE SIDE. AND IT CREATES A USABLE AREA FOR THIS TYPE OF A LOT. EPCON HAS PERFECTED THIS, AND THAT'S REALLY FROM A CONDO ASSOCIATION ON EPCON. THAT'S THE AREA THAT THEY CAN DO A GARDEN, THEY CAN LANDSCAPE IT HOWEVER THEY WANT. NOW THESE WILL ALL, EVEN THE TOWNHOMES WILL BE SINGLE FAMILY FOR SALE PRODUCT. THERE IS NO RENTAL PRODUCT HERE, SO THEY'LL OWN THOSE YARDS SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO LANDSCAPE THEM IN THAT AREA. BUT WE REALLY THINK THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE FENCED OFF IN THAT AREA. SO THE ONLY PLACE THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO DO PRIVACY FENCES WILL BE HERE. YOU CAN DO SOME FENCES, BUT THEY GOT TO BE 48 AND ALL THE SINGLE FAMILY HAS GOT TO BE ALUMINUM. IT'S GOT TO BE THE NICE LOOKING FENCES. NOT THAT STOCKADE FENCES AND PRIVACY FENCES, BUT THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE WANT TO KIND OF ISOLATE TO THAT. SO WE SHOW TWO REAR LOADED. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE FRONT LOADED IS JUST YOUR TRADITIONAL LOT. IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT SMALLER WITH SMALLER SETBACKS BOTH ON THE FRONT AND THE REAR. SO THESE ARE THE THIS THE LOT STANDARDS THAT BOTH THE CITY AND A FEW PEOPLE ASK US TO PUT TOGETHER SO THEY COULD BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW WE WROTE THE TEXT. THIS IS THE SINGLE FAMILY. THIS IS A LARGER SINGLE FAMILY. WE EXPECT WITH OUR DESIGN CODE AND OUR TEXT, FOR THESE TO BE SOME OF THE MORE EXPENSIVE HOUSES IN MARYSVILLE. AND I'M JUST BEING HONEST, THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE ON 55 AND 67 FOOT LOTS. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK THE QUESTION, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHY WOULD YOU BUILD AN EXPENSIVE HOUSE ON THAT IF YOU FOLLOW BUSINESS FIRST, BUSINESS FIRST PUBLISHES THE HIGHEST PRICE HOUSES SOLD IN CENTRAL OHIO EVERY FRIDAY. AND LAST FRIDAY THERE WERE THREE. THERE WAS A $1.2 MILLION HOUSE. IT'S OUT A LITTLE BIT IN MARYSVILLE IN THE TOWNSHIP AND NOT REALLY SURE WHERE THAT IS, BUT THE NEXT THERE WERE TWO IN THE TOP TEN, ONE AT 690 AND ONE AT 660. AND THEY WERE BOTH EMERALD WOODS, AMBER MEADOWS RIGHT BESIDE US IN THE PULTE, YOU KNOW. SO AND THOSE ARE ON EVEN SMALLER LOTS. SO WE ARE BRINGING IN ONE OF MY PARTNER ROCKFORD HOMES IS GOING TO BE THE PRIMARY BUILDER IN HERE. HE WILL NOT BE THE ONLY BUILDER, BUT HE'LL BE THE PRIMARY BUILDER. AND HE SITS AND HIS SEGMENTATION IS RIGHT FROM A PRODUCTION STANDPOINT. IT'S GOT A WIDE VARIETY OF HOUSES THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT AND YOU CAN PICK FROM. BUT HE HAS AN ENTIRE DESIGN TEAM THAT IF YOU WANT TO MOVE WALLS, IF YOU WANT TO ADD SECTIONS AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, THEY WILL GO, YOU KNOW, GO TO TOWN WITH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU PAY FOR THAT. BUT THE NEXT LEVEL UP ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THE CUSTOM BUILDERS THAT START WITH A BLANK PIECE OF PAPER. SO ROCKFORD IS KIND OF IN THAT PRODUCTION SET SLASH CUSTOM RANGE. AND THIS IS THE AREA HE REALLY LIKES, THIS AREA THAT HE HAS WANTED. HE HAS FOREGONE THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT I BROUGHT THROUGH, AS HE REALLY LIKES THIS AREA BETWEEN 4 AND 31. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. SO THIS IS THE LARGER JUST ANOTHER EXHIBIT OF THAT. YOU CAN SEE THE FULL ACCESS POINT THERE JUST NORTH OF THE LANDSCAPE. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE LANDSCAPE COMPANY. IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR, THAT IS CONNECTED TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT IS GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM FROM THIS DECISION.

BUT REGARDLESS, WE WORK WITH ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE AROUND. WE BUFFER. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE BUFFERING THAT WE'RE DOING, SOME OF THE OTHER CARVE OUTS. SO WE'VE AGREED TO PUT A FENCE.

WE'VE AGREED TO PUT SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND THE OTHER PIECES. WE AGREED THAT WE WOULD NOT RUN BIKE TRAILS BETWEEN THE PONDS OR THE BACK OF THE HOUSES ALONG HIS FACILITY.

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HE DOES HAVE RETAIL STUFF THAT SITS OUT, AND MARYSVILLE IS A VERY SAFE, YOU KNOW, TONY DOES, BUT TONY'S NOT HERE. HE'S NOT CITY COUNCIL, BUT IT'S A VERY SAFE PLACE. BUT HE JUST, YOU KNOW, ACCESS. HE JUST KIND OF WANTS TO LIMIT THAT. SO WE AGREED TO DO THAT FROM THE DESIGN STANDARD. I THINK I SHOWED YOU THIS IN THE SKETCH PLAN. SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE WHAT WE HAVE DIVERSITY STANDARDS. SO FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS JUST A STREET SECTION. IF THE ONE WITH THE CIRCLE ON IT THE LITTLE YELLOW BOX, THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HOUSES. OURS WILL BE VARIATIONS OF THAT. BUT IF THAT IS YOUR PRIMARY SUBJECT, THERE WILL NOT BE A REPEAT OF COLOR OR ELEVATION ACROSS THE STREET, ONE OFF ON ACROSS THE STREET, OR TWO ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE STREET. NOW ONE OF THE FOCUS AREA ITEMS WAS DIVERSITY OF COLOR AND DIVERSITY OF ELEVATIONS. SO WE CAME UP WITH 12 DIFFERENT COLOR PALETTES. NOW WITHIN THOSE COLOR PALETTES, THOSE ARE NOT THE ONLY COLORS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. I USE THIS AT JEROME VILLAGE, AND EACH OF THOSE HAD ABOUT 50 DIFFERENT COLORS OF SHERMAN WILLIAM COLORS THAT YOU COULD USE. BUT WE CLASSIFIED THEM. BUT BOTH STAFF AND SOME OTHER PEOPLE ASK US TO EXPAND THE COLOR PALETTE. SO WE ARE GOING TO EXPAND THAT. AND WE AGREED WE WOULDN'T DO THAT HERE.

WE WOULD DO THAT AT DESIGN REVIEW. SO WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND IT FROM 12 AND BREAK THOSE UP TO GET MORE RANGE. BUT THAT THAT DIVERSITY PATTERN WILL BE USED FOR BOTH COLOR AND FOR ELEVATIONS. AND THAT'S WHAT I PUT HERE. UPGRADE MATERIALS I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT. THE THINGS IN RED HERE ARE CHANGES. SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF STAFF IS AWARE THAT WE MADE THIS DECISION. BUT WE HAVE DECIDED TO ELIMINATE VINYL FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE WILL USE NATURAL MATERIALS, SEDIMENTARY PRODUCTS, WHICH IS A HARDY PLANK THAT'S LIKE A Q-TIP OR A COTTON SWAB. IT'S JUST A FANCY NAME. IT'S THE BRAND OF IT. BUT HARDIPLANK STONE BRICK. THOSE ARE BOARD AND BATTEN, HARDY PLANK AS WELL, BUT THERE WILL BE VINYL SOFFITS AND SOME OF THE TRIM PIECES WILL BE VINYL THAT EVERYBODY USES ON MILLION DOLLAR HOUSES. BUT VINYL AS A PRIMARY MATERIAL WILL NOT BE USED. SO IN THE STAFF REPORT, THEY DID A GOOD JOB OF SAYING, HERE'S KIND OF THE STANDARDS THAT WE PUT FORTH AND THEIR COMMENTS. THEN THEY SAID, HERE IS FOCUS AREA ITEMS THAT YOU KNOW NEED TO BE CONSIDERED OR SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM THEY SAID, HERE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO. SO WE COMMITTED TO A NUMBER OF THINGS BEFORE THE FOCUS AREA, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN PUSHING STANDARDS HERE IN MARYSVILLE. SO I JUST TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, AND MOST OF THESE ARE EITHER CHANGED OR SOMEHOW WRITTEN UP IN THE STAFF RESPONSE THAT WE DID HERE JUST YESTERDAY OR THE WEEK BEFORE. SO VARIOUS PRODUCTS, THAT IS A FOCUS AREA RECOMMENDATION. SO NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE IN THE HIGHER DENSITY AREA, FRONT AND REAR LOADED SINGLE FAMILY, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE REAR LOADED TOWNHOMES. WE HAVE MULTIPLE SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCTS IN THE OTHER AREAS WE HAVE COMMITTED TO IN SOME AREAS B AND D, THESE ARE THE SINGLE FAMILY. IT'S I CAN'T DO IT IN THE HIGHER DENSITY TOWNHOMES, BUT THE MAJORITY, WHEN I SAY THE MAJORITY, I'M NOT TALKING 51%, I'M TALKING 70, 80, 90. WE WILL DO SIDE LOADED GARAGES ON CORNER LOTS, AND IT'S A BETTER STREET VIEW BECAUSE IT TAKES THAT OFF. THE ONLY PLACE THAT WE WANT IS WHERE IT CREATES A SAFETY ISSUE, OR IT OPENS UP INTO A PARK OR SOMETHING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OTHER MANNER. BUT I FULLY EXPECT THIS TO BE 70 TO 80% OF THE CORNER LOTS IN THE SUB AREAS FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY WILL BE SIDE LOADED, AND THAT WAS A FOCUS AREA. EXTENDED GARAGES, SNOUT NOSE HOUSES, PIG NOSE HOUSES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO CALL THEM, BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THE GARAGES TO EXTEND OUT PAST THE WHATEVER THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE IS, WHETHER IT IS THE PORCH, WHETHER IT IS THE GARAGE, OR WHETHER IT'S THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING THOSE GARAGES BACK AT LEAST EQUAL TO SOME COULD BE TWO FOOT, BUT IF THEY DO TWO FOOT, THEN THEY'VE GOT TO MOVE THEIR PORCH FURTHER OUT. AND THE SETBACK THAT THE FRONT YARD SETBACK THAT WE DEFINED WILL BE MEASURED AT WHATEVER THE FRONT CONSTRUCTED ITEM IS. SO IT WON'T BE GARAGES BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO HERE, BUT IT WILL EITHER BE THE FRONT PORCH OR THE MAIN BODY OF THE HOUSE IF THE GARAGE IS OR NOT. THE GARAGE. THE FRONT PORCH IS, IS ACTUALLY THERE. NO PRIVACY FENCES IN SOME AREAS. B AND D, THAT'S THE SINGLE FAMILY USABLE PORCHES. THIS IS A FOCUS OF THE FOCUS AREA AND A NUMBER OF OTHER PEOPLE. THEY WANT TO NOT HAVE A PORCH THAT YOU CAN'T PUT A CHAIR, YOU SIT AND BECOME NEIGHBORLY. SO WE'VE COMMITTED TO A MINIMUM OF FOUR FOOT, BUT MAJORITY OF OUR PORCHES WILL BE 4 TO 6 FOOT. NO EXPOSED CONCRETE FOUNDATIONS. SO A LOT OF MATERIALS COME DOWN. THERE'S A LOT OF POURED WALLS IN FOUNDATIONS, AND YOU GET A TWO FOOT GAP BETWEEN THE MATERIALS THAT ARE BEING USED, UNLESS IT'S BRICK OR STONE AND THE FOUNDATION. SO WE ARE GOING TO COVER THOSE. SO WE WILL COVER THEM WITH BRICK, WE WILL COVER THEM WITH STONE. WE WILL COVER THEM WITH, IF IT'S A HARDIPLANK MATERIAL, A PLINTH BOARD THAT GOES THERE. NOW THE PLINTH BOARD

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CAN'T TOUCH THE LANDSCAPING, SO THERE'LL BE ABOUT SIX INCHES. BUT IF THEY DON'T DO THAT, THEN WE WILL HAVE THEM LANDSCAPED AND WE'RE TALKING ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE HOUSE. SO THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF MATERIALS TO ELIMINATE THAT EXPOSED CONCRETE. AGAIN, TO RAISE THE DESIGN CRITERIA OF THESE HOUSES, TRIMMING ALL THE WINDOWS. THE ONLY WINDOWS WE WON'T TRIM IS IF IT'S A COMPLETE STONE OR BRICK, YOU DON'T TRIM OUT STONE OR BRICK, BUT WE WILL HAVE TRIM ON ALL THE WINDOWS, MINIMUM SIX INCHES OVERHANGS, NO BLANK WALLS. ELEVATION. THE FRONT ELEVATION WILL HAVE 25% BRICK, STONE OR WHAT I CALL OTHER SECONDARY MATERIALS. SO IF YOU'RE USING A HARDIPLANK MATERIAL AND YOU'RE GOING VERTICAL SIDING, THE UPPER PORTIONS OF THE HOUSE NEEDS TO BE BOARD AND BATTEN. IT CAN BE SHAKE. IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A HARDIPLANK MATERIAL, OR THE LOWER PART CAN BE STONE OR BRICK, AND THE UPPER PART CAN BE. BUT WE'RE COMMITTING TO A SECONDARY TYPE OF MATERIAL OF AT LEAST 25% NOW. SO YOU GUYS ARE AWARE THAT 25% IS OF THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE MINUS THE GARAGE, BECAUSE THE GARAGE DOOR IS VERY LIKELY TO BE ALUMINUM. SO THAT DOESN'T COUNT TOWARDS THAT BECAUSE YOU REALLY CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THAT FROM THE LOT STANDPOINT. I ALREADY TALKED ALL THE SIDEWALKS IN HERE ARE GOING TO BE FIVE FOOT. MOST PEOPLE ARE MOVING THERE. FROM AN ADA STANDPOINT. TREE LAWNS IN SOME AREAS SEE WHICH IS THE HIGHER DENSITY PRODUCT, SMALLER LOTS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE SEVEN FOOT. ALL THE REST OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE NINE FOOT. SO RIGHT THERE WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY AND WHERE A SETBACK IS, WE'RE GOING TO NOW HAVE 15 FOOT ON THE SINGLE FAMILY BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY GET INTO THE YARD.

CONCRETE DRIVEWAYS, NO ASPHALT. THAT WAS A FOCUS AREA, MINIMAL STREET LIGHTS. SO OUR ORIGINAL TEXT SAID NO STREET LIGHTS. DRONE VILLAGE OPERATES THAT WAY. THE COUNTY MADE US PUT STREET LIGHTS AT THE ROUNDABOUT FOR SAFETY, AND THERE'S A FEW OTHERS THERE FOR SAFETY, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE LIGHT POLLUTION. SO STAFF, A FEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, ENGINEER. WE ALL HAD A DISCUSSION, SO WE ARE GOING TO AGREE TO PUT MINIMAL STREET LIGHTS IN. WE PUT A SPECK IN THE MOST RECENT COPY. IT'S JUST A BLACK STREET LIGHT TYPE OF THING. OBVIOUSLY THE RETAIL WILL HAVE PARKING LOT LIGHTS AND ALL THOSE SORT OF THINGS, BUT THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY THERE WILL BE WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE ENGINEER TO DETERMINE WHERE THEY ARE TO BALANCE SAFETY, SECURITY AND THE DESIRE NOT TO HAVE A LOT OF LIGHT POLLUTION. SO MINIMAL STREET LIGHTS WILL BE DETERMINED BY ENGINEERING. YES, THAT'S CORRECT, NOT DESIGN REVIEW BY THE ENGINEER. YEAH. SO FROM A LANDSCAPING STANDPOINT, ALL OUR INTERIOR TREES ARE GOING TO BE LINED WITH TREES. WE'RE ALSO LINING THE MAJORITY OF THE EXTERIOR TREES. WE'VE ADDED TREE TREED POCKET PARKS. SO WE'VE ADDED TREES WHERE WE WERE OPENING. THERE WAS A LOT OF DEBATE THERE. I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY CONCURS. IF YOU'VE GOT YOUNG KIDS AND YOU WANT TO THROW A FOOTBALL OR SOCCER, YOU DON'T LIKE A LOT OF TREES, YOU LIKE SOME OPEN AREA, ETC. BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE DECIDED TO GO WITH THE TREES. WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. WE ACTUALLY DO IT BY SQUARE FOOT. THESE HAVE TO BE SIX INCH RAISED BEDS OF TOPSOIL. AS YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY SCRAPES THE TOPSOIL OFF AND IT JUST DISAPPEARS IN THE WIND. IT GOES SOMEWHERE. SO YOU'RE LEFT WITH CLAY. SO IN HIGHER DESIGNED AREAS, ETC. YOU DEAL WITH THAT WITH TWO THINGS. ONE, YOU DON'T ALLOW ANYBODY TO SEE THEIR YARD BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T BRING IN TOPSOIL, WHICH THEY WON'T DO, THE GRASS ISN'T GOING TO GROW.

SO YOU REQUIRE SOD. SO ALL OF THESE YARDS, FRONT, SIDE AND REAR ALL BE SOD WITH SOD. YOU GET ABOUT AN INCH AND A HALF WORTH OF DIRT, AND THAT IS ENOUGH TO START BREAKING DOWN THE CLAY THAT IS THERE. AND THEY GROW AS LONG AS THE GRAVEL IS NOT THERE. NO, NO, IT'S SO THE GRAVEL IS NOT THERE. BUT THAT'S ENOUGH. SO ON THE INTERIOR LANDSCAPING BEDS. SO THE BEDS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE SIX INCHES OF TOPSOIL ADDED AND THAT'S SIX INCHES BEFORE THE MULCH. THE MAJORITY OF DEVELOPERS I'M NOT GIVING AWAY ANY SECRETS. I MEAN THEY DON'T THEY'LL PUT MULCH ON ON ON THE, THE CLAY THAT IS ALREADY THERE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WONDER WHY THEY HAVE A HARD TIME, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PLANTS GROWING. SO WE ARE REQUIRING SIX INCHES. THIS IS A VERY SIMILAR TO THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE A DRONE VILLAGE TO DO THIS. AND THEN LIKE I SAID, GOD ONLY KNOWS SEEDING. NOW IF YOU HAVE A SECTION THAT DIES OUT AND YOU ALREADY OWN THE HOUSE, YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH THE YARD. WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. YOU GUYS GOT SOME INSPECTORS, BUT THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF THE PRODUCT THAT THAT ROCKFORD SELLS. NOW AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE SOME STONE. THERE'S GOING TO BE THE, THE FOUNDATIONS HERE WILL BE COVERED WITH THE STONE AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. SO WE HAVEN'T UPDATED. THE OTHER IMPROVEMENT THAT WE HAD ALREADY COMMITTED TO IS WINDOWS IN THE TOP RUNG OF THE GARAGE DOOR. SO YOU DON'T HAVE 16 FOOT GARAGE DOORS THAT ARE ALL ALUMINUM. SO WE WILL PUT WINDOWS ACROSS THE TOP OF ALL OF THE HOUSES, INCLUDING THE TOWNHOMES AND THE HIGHER DENSITY PRODUCT. THERE'S SOME FAIRLY LARGE HOUSES IN HERE. SO THIS IS JUST AN EXHIBIT THAT SHOWS YOU WE ARE AT 30%. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, OUR PONDS ARE VERY LARGE. WE INTENTIONALLY ARE MAKING THEM LARGE AS

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AMENITIES. AS YOU COME IN. THEY WILL NOT HAVE FOUNTAINS IN THEM. THEY WILL HAVE SOME TRAILS AROUND IT. WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THEM IN A NATURAL AREA, NATURAL STATE. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WE'RE KIND OF MOVING THEM AROUND. WE CAN MAKE THESE PONDS A LOT SMALLER. LIKE I SAID, THE ONE TO THE NORTH AND THE ONE AROUND THE LANDSCAPING IS ALMOST FOUR ACRES, THREE AND A HALF TO FOUR ACRES. SO THESE ARE VERY LARGE PONDS. AND WE'RE DOING THAT INTENTIONALLY. WE CAN MAKE THEM A LOT DEEPER AND A LOT SMALLER. BUT FROM A PERCENTAGE WISE WE ARE COMMITTING TO 30% COMMON AREA WITH THE DETENTION PONDS. AND THOSE DETENTION PONDS MAKE UP ABOUT 6% OF THAT. I THINK WE COULD MAKE THEM DEEPER AND PROBABLY GET THAT TO 3% IF WE WANTED TO. BUT I THINK WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN SOME RURAL CHARACTERISTICS, ALL OF OUR PARKS WILL NOT BE TALL GRASSES, BUT THE ONES AROUND THE PONDS WILL BE TALL GRASSES THAT AS THEY APPROACH THE HOUSES, WE THEN MOW DOWN AND HAVE MANICURED YARDS. SO I GOT SOME PICTURES HERE. SO THIS IS SOME EXAMPLES.

NOW IGNORE SOME OF THE MASSIVE MATURE TREES BECAUSE 90% OF THIS AREA IS A CORNFIELD RIGHT NOW.

SO WE WILL PUT IN A LOT OF TREES. BUT THIS IS THE TYPE OF THINGS WE WERE ENCOURAGED THE CATTAILS TO GROW UP. IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE STANDARDS THAT THAT I PUT IN PLACE WHEN WE WERE AT JEROME VILLAGE. CATTAILS ACTUALLY DO A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS. ONE MAKES IT A LITTLE HARDER TO FISH, SO YOU DON'T GET A LOT OF THE PUBLIC COMING IN FISHING, WHICH TENDS TO LITTER UP SOME OF THE AREA, BUT IT ALSO KEEPS GEESE AWAY BECAUSE GEESE DO NOT LIKE WALKING THROUGH THE CATTAILS TO GET INTO THE PONDS. PREDATORS AND STUFF ARE THERE, BUT IT ALSO GIVES A VERY NATURAL. SO THE SHAPE OF THE PONDS, THE CONDITION OF THE PONDS, THEY'LL STILL SERVE AS DETENTION. WE WILL HAVE INLETS AND OUTLETS, BUT WE'RE ALSO PUTTING LANDSCAPING AROUND THE PONDS. SO YOU WILL SEE TREES ALONG THE EDGES AND STUFF, AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE ON THE ACTUAL DRAWINGS. THE OTHER PIECE THAT IF I GO BACK HERE SITTING IN THE CENTER OF THE ENTIRE THING HERE, IS THE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO BUILD. THIS IS ACTUAL IMAGES, COPPER OR I'M SORRY, ROCKFORD AND MI DEVELOPED THIS CLUBHOUSE, THIS POOL AT FOXFIRE DOWN IN PICKAWAY COUNTY IS GOLF COURSE IN THE BACK. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD A GOLF COURSE HERE, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THIS IS THE TYPE OF FACILITY. YOU CAN SEE THE TWO DIFFERENT AGE POOLS. IT IS CONNECTED THROUGH THE TRAILS AND THE SIDEWALK THINGS IT'S KIND OF CENTERED IN NOW. OBVIOUSLY THEY HAD A NICE LITTLE ROUNDABOUT THERE. WE'LL HAVE ROUNDABOUTS IN THE PROJECT, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AT THE POOL, BUT IT'S MEANT TO BE IN THE CENTER. WE WILL PROBABLY OPEN THIS UP FOR X NUMBER OF MEMBERSHIPS IF THEY WANT TO, FOR PEOPLE THAT AREN'T PART OF OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THIS WILL BE KIND OF MANAGED. WE'RE GOING TO PUT A COMMUNITY AUTHORITY IN PLACE HERE. THIS WILL BE MANAGED BY THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY. AND, YOU KNOW, THE FEE FOR PEOPLE THAT AREN'T PAYING THAT COMMUNITY AUTHORITY FEE WILL BE HIGHER THAN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERNAL. BUT WE FEEL IT'S AN AMENITY BECAUSE OF OUR OUR TRAIL SYSTEM IS GOING TO CONNECT TO OTHER AREAS. IF PEOPLE WANT TO ASSOCIATE OBVIOUSLY WITH THE PEOPLE WE HAVE HERE AND JOIN THAT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO DO IT UP TO OBVIOUSLY A CAPACITY NUMBER, WHICH WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. SO THIS IS AN EXHIBIT THAT STAFF ASKED US TO PUT TOGETHER THAT DEFINES THE TRAIL SYSTEM. SO THE MAJORITY OF THIS, THEIR STANDARD CODE AND WHAT THE FOCUS AREA ASKS FOR IS TEN FOOT MULTI-PURPOSE TRAILS. AND THE MAJORITY OF OUR TRAILS ARE GOING TO BE THAT, ESPECIALLY THE ONES ON THE PERIMETER. WE ARE BREAKING SOME DOWN, LIKE IN THE POCKET PARK IN THE GREEN THAT IS AN EIGHT FOOT MULTI-PURPOSE TRAIL, AND THEN THE RED IS ALL THE SIDEWALKS THAT WE'RE DOING.

AND REMEMBER, THE SIDEWALKS ARE FIVE FOOT. SO THIS IS JUST AN IMAGE THAT GIVES YOU THE IDEA OF WHERE THE TRAILS ARE. NOW, YOU KNOW, YOUR CODE SAYS TO GO ALONG FOR AND GO ALONG. 31 WHEN YOU GET UP TO AMRINE WOODS, WE DECIDED TO BRING THOSE TRAILS, NOT UP TO THAT CORNER AND THEN JUST BACK DOWN. I DON'T KNOW WHO'D USE IT. SO WE DECIDED TO KIND OF TAKE IT THROUGH THE PARK AREA THERE AND UP AROUND THE POND. SO THAT'S THE NORTHERN SECTION. THIS IS THE SOUTHERN SECTION. AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE TRAIL DOWN 31. IT'LL GO IN FRONT OF THE RETAIL. WE'RE CONNECTING THE TRAIL DOWN TO THE APARTMENT FOLKS, SO THEY'RE WELCOME TO USE IT. WE'RE CONNECTING OVER TO MILL VALLEY. WE'RE CONNECTING OVER HERE TO THE EAST SIDE. I ALWAYS SAY, YOU KNOW, THE BALL FIELDS, BUT IF MOM GOT ARRESTED AND IS AT THE INTAKE FACILITY OVER THERE, THEY CAN GO VISIT MOM IF THEY HAPPEN TO LIVE THERE, YOU KNOW, UNTIL SHE GETS PROCESSED AND MOVED OVER BECAUSE THE FACILITY IS THERE. BUT THERE ARE BALL FIELDS FARTHER TO THE EAST THERE. SO WE'RE CONNECTING UP THROUGH THERE. THIS I PULLED THIS FROM THE FOCUS AREA. I'M NOT GOING TO READ IT TO YOU. THE FOCUSES AREA IS AVAILABLE, BUT ESSENTIALLY THERE WERE NINE GOALS THAT THEY REALLY WERE TRYING TO DO. I THINK WE MEET EVERY ONE OF THOSE NINE GOALS THAT WERE SET OUT BY CITY COUNCIL AND THIS FOCUS AREA, AND THIS TAKES THE COMP PLAN TO ANOTHER LEVEL WITH THE DETAIL THAT WAS IN THAT. AND WE APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. I'M WARMING MY COMPUTER BACK UP. SO IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD. GO AHEAD. AND A MINOR QUESTION. THE SPUR THAT IS BEING CREATED OFF OF

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AMRINE TO HIT THE 90 DEGREE ON ROUTE FOUR, IS THAT GOING TO ELIMINATE THE EXISTING ENTRY POINT ON THE FOUR OR IS IT OKAY, SO WE'LL KIND OF JUST PAVE OVER THAT ROAD. AND YEAH. SO ESSENTIALLY YES. SO THERE'S A CREEK THAT COMES THROUGH THERE. SO AS SOON AS WE GET ACROSS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GO INTO THE RIDGE, WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT DOWN JUST LIKE A SHELL. SO THE PIECE THAT GOES STRAIGHT OUT, WHICH IS THE ABANDONED NORMALLY WHEN THE COUNTY, BECAUSE THAT'S A COUNTY ROAD, IT'S BEING ANNEXED IN RIGHT NOW. NORMALLY WHEN THAT'S ABANDONED, HALF OF THE CENTER LINE GOES TO THE OWNER OF THE SOUTH AND THE OWNER TO THE NORTH. SO IF IT COMES TO US, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE IN OUR COMMON AREA. SO BUT THAT WILL BE DUG UP AND ELIMINATED OKAY. I GOT A QUESTION. SO YOU'RE GOING TO REMOVE A LOT OF TREES SPECIFICALLY. AND THE FITZGERALD'S PARCEL. THOSE TREES. ARE YOU HAVING A TREE SURVEY AND ARE YOU DO YOU PLAN TO REPLACE THOSE TREES. WE ARE REPLACING A LOT OF TREES. SO OBVIOUSLY WITH THE TREES THAT WE JUST AGREED TO PUT ON, YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF TREES. SO THE TREES THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH. DO YOU HAVE THAT EXHIBIT. SO IT'S ACTUALLY A VERY SMALL AREA. BUT STATISTICS ARE MISLEADING BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF US IS A CORNFIELD. SO WE ARE KEEPING AS MANY OF THE TREES, ALMOST ALL OF THEM, OOPS. ALL OF THEM ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE PEOPLE IN THE APARTMENTS ARE LOOKING INTO THOSE. WE'RE KEEPING THE MAJORITY IN THE OHIO POND. WE MAY HAVE TO CUT JUST A FEW BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CONNECT TO THE ROAD COMING THROUGH. HERE WE GO. YEAH. SO WE MAY WE WILL HAVE TO CUT THROUGH HIM. BUT YEAH. SO THE ONES THAT WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED THERE, THERE'S A SPATTERING. WE HAVE NOT DONE A TREE SURVEY AND WE DO PLAN TO REMOVE THOSE. SO THE WAY OUR TEXT IS WRITTEN IS THEY WILL NOT COUNT TOWARDS THE TREE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, BUT ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THERE. WE TAKE ANY DOWN TO OHIO POND OR THE PROPERTY LINE. THOSE WILL. BUT WE DO FEEL EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE AN INVENTORY, WE DO FEEL THAT WE ARE REPLACING A FAR NUMBER OF TREES NOW BECAUSE I HAVE AN INVENTORY OF THE HEALTH AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF. THAT PROCESS IS A 15 TO $20,000 INVENTORY TO HAVE SOMEBODY GO OUT THERE, TAG EVERY TREE, IDENTIFY THE SPECIES AND GO THROUGH THE SIZE AND THE CONDITION AND ALL THAT. SO THAT AREA IS OBVIOUSLY THE ■HIGHER DENSITY AREA. I DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE THOSE TREES. AND WITH THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT WE JUST COMMITTED TO PUT IN ALL ALONG THE PARK AND CORRIDOR, THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT THAT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT TREE SURVEY. WHY DON'T WE REQUIRE TREE SURVEYS. MOST A LOT OF COMMUNITIES DO. HAS THAT EVER BEEN TREES DO REQUIRE A TREE SURVEY. YEAH. THIS IS A VARIATION IN HIS PUD TEXT THAT HE HAS WRITTEN. SO WHEN APPLICANTS COME THROUGH DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR TREE SURVEY AS PART OF THAT APPLICATION. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO USE A LOOPHOLE HERE.

WHAT WHAT IT IS, IS WHEN YOU ARE ANNEXING AND YOU'RE BRINGING TOWNSHIP IN. SO YOU DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMOVE THOSE TREES AS THE ANNEXATION PROCESS. NORMALL, TREE POLICIES APPLY TO GROUND THAT IS ALREADY IN THE CITY. SO YOU WILL FIND THE TEXT WRITTEN THIS WAY VERY SIMILAR. AND YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T COUNTED UP THE NUMBER OF TREES, BUT FROM OUR DISCUSSION WHEN, OOPS, I DON'T HAVE THE DESIGN. BUT ON THE ILLUSTRATIVE PLAN, WE'VE BEEN VERY, VERY CAREFUL TO IDENTIFY HOW MANY TREES WE'RE PUTTING ON THERE, NOT TO IDENTIFY THE NUMBER, BUT THAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO TREES IN THOSE AREAS UNLESS THERE'S A UTILITY OR SOMETHING RUNS UNDER. NOW, IN OUR TEXT, WE DID MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE TIME THE TREE REPLACEMENT REQUIRES NATIVE TREES. WE DID INCLUDE THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, USE THE EVERGREENS. AND THOSE WOULD COUNT TOWARDS THAT PROCESS AS WELL, BECAUSE EVERGREENS ARE TECHNICALLY NOT NATIVE TO OHIO.

BUT MOST PEOPLE COUNT THEM. SO WE JUST ADDED THAT TO OUR TEXT. I DON'T KNOW HOW THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS FEEL ABOUT THE TREES BEING REMOVED. I MEAN, WE NORMALLY REQUIRE IT EVERYWHERE.

THE TREE SURVEY, I MEAN, IS YOUR THOUGHT WITHOUT HAVING A ACTUAL COUNT AND CONDITION OF THE TREE, THAT YOU WHAT YOU ARE PROVIDING WOULD BE NEAR EQUAL. YOU JUST WE HAVE NOT I DO NOT KNOW. SO THERE ARE THESE TREES HERE. I HAVE WALKED THE PROPERTY NUMEROUS TIMES. THESE TREES ARE VERY MATURE HERE. THERE'S SOME SHRUB UP IN HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PIECE IS. AND THIS IS JUST ALL. SO I MEAN, YOUR TREE SURVEY OR YOUR TREE POLICY KICKS IN AT TEN INCHES. I WOULD SAY THE ONES

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AROUND DAN AND HIS MOTHER'S HOUSE ARE PROBABLY FITTING THAT NOW WHERE YOU SEE THAT THE TWO HOUSES AND THE BARNS HERE, WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THOSE FACILITIES. BUT WE LEFT ALL THOSE TREES. WE LEFT THESE TREES HERE. IT'S JUST THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE BUBBLE THAT WE PLAN TO REMOVE. THAT'S THE HIGHER DENSITY. I DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP THOSE SO I CAN I CAN INVENTORY THE NUMBER OF NEW TREES WE'RE PUTTING IN AND TRY TO GET AN IDEA. BUT I DON'T HAVE THE SURVEY COUNT HERE. MR. CHAIR, I DO RECOGNIZE WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THAT THIS IS NOT ANNEXED INTO THE CITY YET, DOESN'T REALLY ABIDE BY THE TREE SURVEY POLICY. I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING HIM FROM TAKING THOSE DOWN TODAY AND THEN ASKING FOR THE ANNEXATION, SO AT LEAST WE'RE ADDRESSING IT. YEAH, SHE THEY ARE CORRECT. SO IT'S NOT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS CURRENTLY. SO HE HE COULD GO OUT THERE RIGHT NOW AND WE DON'T DO THAT BUT SURE, SURE. IT'S YOU HAVE WAYS AROUND IT. YOU ARE NOT DOING THAT. I'M IDENTIFYING EXACTLY WHAT MY INTENTIONS ARE IN MY TEXT. YOU'RE BEING CLEAR. NO. WELL, YOU GUYS GET TO JUDGE WHERE I'M BEING FAIR. I'M BEING HONEST AND OPEN. I. IT'S CLEAR I DIDN'T SAY FAIR. OKAY. YES, YES, I AM BEING CLEAR. WE CAN AGREE ON THAT. SO, I MEAN, I ACCUSING YOU OF BEING FAIR. I CAN COUNT THE TREES. I MEAN, SOME OF THE PROBLEM WITH COUNT THE TREES ON THE ILLUSTRATIVE ISN'T THE ONES IN THE PARK. WE WILL PUT EVERYONE THAT WE'RE SHOWING THAT ARE DOTTED IN THOSE PARKS. IT IS THE ONES THAT ARE ALONG THE STREETS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE DRIVEWAYS ARE GOING TO BE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE UTILITIES AND SOME OF THAT STUFF IS GOING TO BE. WE ARE GOING TO FOLLOW THAT CODE, I THINK, WHERE EVERY 30 OR 35 FOOT, OBVIOUSLY, PROBABLY A LITTLE CLOSER WHEN YOU GET INTO THE HIGHER DENSITY PIECES. BUT YOU KNOW, AS TO THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE COUNTED THERE. WE'VE GOT TREES DOWN FOR WHERE WE SEPARATE FARTHER AWAY. WE HAD A KIND OF A GREEN OPEN AREA, SO WE DECIDED TO TAKE THE TREES CLOSER TO ROUTE FOUR, TO KIND OF BLOCK THAT OUT AND MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A PARK THERE. AND LIKE I SAID, WE PULLED THE ONES UP AT THE CORNER AT CAMERON WOODS AND FOUR, WE PULLED THAT TRAIL SYSTEM AND ALL THOSE TREES BACK INTO THE PARK. NOW FOR WHEN YOU COME DOWN, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE BACKSIDE OF THAT POND IN THE BACKSIDE OF THE TREES. SO I MEAN, ULTIMATELY IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY FROM THAT SIDE. BUT THE FOCUS IS REALLY FROM WHERE THE HOMEOWNER IS. AND BUFFING THE ONE. THERE IS ONE RESIDENT THAT OWNS UP A PARCEL UP THERE.

WE'VE GOT TREES ALL THE WAY AROUND HIS, AS WE DO ALSO AROUND THE LANDSCAPE COMPANY. BART, IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY IN THOSE AREAS THAT YOU HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED? I KNOW YOU'RE AS YOU MOVE FORWARD INTO DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, COULD YOU TRY TO SAVE ANY OF THOSE TREES LIKE ESPECIALLY THAT CORNER THAT'S KIND OF MAKING THE L SHAPE THE SECTION OVER IN THIS SECTION RIGHT HERE? YES. YOU KNOW, THE ONLY ONES THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO KEEP IF. CAN YOU DO YOU WANT ME TO FLIP OR YOU FLIP ME OVER AND I'LL GO BACK TO THE DESIGN. I WASN'T SURE IF THAT AREA COULD PROVIDE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL AND THEN THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL IN MAINTAINING ANY OF THAT NATURAL AREA. BUT BECAUSE OF THE LOCKS, WE DO HAVE PROPOSED MOUNDING HERE. THAT COULD EITHER BE MOUNTING, IT COULD BE LANDSCAPING. IT'S VERY LIKELY. I KNOW THAT'S NOT A BIG FAN OF PRIVACY FENCES, BUT WE'RE VERY LIKELY TO PUT A PRIVACY FENCE AT THE BACK OF THE RETAIL HERE. AND THEN ON THE RETAIL SIDE, PUT LANDSCAPING MOUNDING MIGHT BE A LITTLE HARDER THERE.

AND THE REASON BEING IS WE'RE BLOCKING THE HEADLIGHTS. IF PARKING WILL BE BETWEEN HERE AND BACK THERE. SO WE'RE BLOCKING THE HEADLIGHTS FROM GOING IN THE BACKS OF THOSE HOUSES, AND YOU'RE REALLY ONLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH A SIX FOOT FENCE. SO THIS IS THE ONLY AREA THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR A PRIVATE, BUT THE ONLY AREA THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE IF WE'RE KEEPING THOSE, IF WE CARRY THOSE DOWN AND WE'RE DOING IT, WE'RE KEEPING THE. BUT THE ONLY PLACE IT WOULD BE IF WE COULD IDENTIFY EXACTLY WHERE THAT PARK IS. AND ANY OF THOSE MATURE TREES FELL INTO THAT PARK, BUT THE REST OF IT BECAUSE OF THE ROADS, BECAUSE OF THE DOUBLE ROADS FOR THE REAR LOADED AND BECAUSE OF THE LOTS, YOU HAVE TO GRADE OUT THE LOTS. YOU CAN'T JUST PUT THEM ON THE TOPSOIL AND EVERYTHING ELSE BEFORE YOU GO TO SELL THEM. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CLEAN THAT. I MEAN, I COULD LOOK AT THE PARK AREA, THAT LITTLE TINY PARKING WELL, THE BIG PARK IN THE MIDDLE, BUT THE PARK TO SEE IF ANY OF THOSE TREES FELL THERE BECAUSE IT'D BE EASY TO OVERLAY IT. AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD TIE OFF, AND HOPEFULLY NOT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE UTILITIES. BECAUSE DON'T FORGET, THE UTILITY LINES WILL RUN ACROSS THE FRONT OF ALL THOSE HOUSES. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE ROADS THERE AND EVERYTHING BEFORE THAT PARK. SO YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SAVE SOME THERE. WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. AND IF YOU WANT TO GO OUT WE'RE WELCOME TO GO OUT. AND I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT A SEAMSTRESS MEASURE THAT PROBABLY

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WILL GO AROUND A TEN INCH TREE TO GET SOME IDEA. IT'S JUST WE BUBBLED A BIT AND WE PLAN TO TAKE THEM DOWN BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE CAN DO THE HIGHER DENSITY PRODUCT WITH THOSE TREES THERE. BUT I WILL COMMIT TO BEING ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE NUMBER OF TREES WE HAVE IN THE COMMON AREAS, AND THEN STREET TREES ARE JUST GOING TO BE WHAT THEY ARE WHEN WE BUILD THAT. AND THIS, THIS IS THIS IS THE ROW OF TREES THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, THIS PARK AREA. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE BUFFERING THE BACK OF THAT LOTS HERE MORE OR LESS BECAUSE OF FORM. BUT WE ALSO DECIDED AND ACTUALLY THOSE THREE HAVE TO BE BY DEAN COOK. AND WE BROUGHT THESE OUT HERE IN ORDER TO KIND OF CHARGE THEM A LOT. SO WE BROUGHT THOSE OUT A LITTLE BIT FARTHER. ONE BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR MAIN ENTRANCE. BUT TWO, IT KIND OF CREATES A BETTER SENSE KIND OF IN THAT LITTLE AREA THERE. SO BUT WE ARE VERY TREE ORIENTED PEOPLE. SURE. I UNDERSTAND, I MEAN, THE INTENT, I MEAN. IF THIS WAS WITHIN THE CITY, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THE RULES THAT ARE TO BE FOLLOWED. AND SO NOT THAT I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO DEVIATE FROM THE INTENT OF IT, BUT I THINK IT WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION TO TALK THROUGH. SO I, I'M FINE, I DO I JUST IT WOULD BE NICE TO IDENTIFY WHAT'S BEING TAKEN DOWN AND HOW YOU'RE RESPONDING. AND HEY, WE'RE, WE'RE ADDING 2 TO 1 HERE OR TO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT DISCUSSION ITEM FOR DRB IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. AND IT MAY NOT NEED TO BE THE ACTUAL TREE SURVEY. RIGHT. JUST AN IDEA OF WHAT WHAT I CAN WORK ON THAT BETWEEN NOW AND THE DRB, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT PROBABLY 3 OR 4 MONTHS TO DO THAT. SO I WILL NOTE ONE MORE THING HERE FROM A GREEN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT RIGHT NOW, THAT CORRIDOR STREAM THAT GOES DOWN THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THAT FARMERS DON'T HAVE. AND I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT ABOUT FARMERS, BUT FARMERS DON'T HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS ON STREAMS LIKE THAT. THEY CAN FARM DOWN TO THE EDGE TO THE POINT THAT THEY CAN GET THEIR TRACTORS TO THEM. SO WE ARE RESTORING THAT ON ABOUT 100 TO 150 FOOT ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT. WE'RE RESTORING IT. WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO PUT TREES IN THAT AREA THAT WILL OVER THIS THIS FOCUS AREA, SOME OF THE STUFF, THE FOCUS AREA, TREES IN THAT AREA THAT WILL GO UP WILL HELP SHADE. IT WILL CREATE MORE, YOU KNOW, TALL GRASSES AND NATURAL MATERIAL IN THERE. BUT WE ARE BACKING TOTALLY AWAY. AND WITH THE ELIMINATION OF THE FARMS, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE GIVING UP FARM LANDS, BUT ALL THE PESTICIDES AND ALL THE FERTILIZERS THAT ARE PUT ON THIS GROUND, THAT RUN INTO THAT CREEK, THAT RUN INTO THE WATER SUPPLY AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF, THEY'RE REMOVED AT THIS. SO WE ARE RECREATING THAT STREAM BUFFER TO AT LEAST 150 FOOT. IN SOME AREAS, IT'S GOING TO BE TWO 300 FOOT BEFORE YOU GET TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE WITH THE DETENTION PONDS. THE PATH YOU HAVE ALONG MARINE WOODS, MEADOWS. YEAH. AS IT GOES WEST, DOES THAT CONNECT TO THAT COMMUNITY OR IS THAT COMMUNITY NOT HAVE A PATH TO CONNECT TO? WELL, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE I HAVEN'T THEY THEY DID THAT STRAIGHT ZONING. SO THEY'RE FILING PLATS AS THEY KIND OF GO. SO I HAVE NOT SEEN BUT THAT WAS A QUESTION. BUT YOUR CODE REQUIRES US. SO YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE IT GOING ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE TOP OF THEIR PER WHAT YOUR CODE SAYS IT IS. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING INTO A LOT THERE PERHAPS I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S THE BEST IMAGE. AND THE EDGE GROUP ACTUALLY DID THAT. BUT ON STRAIGHT ZONING THEY CAN DO AN ILLUSTRATIVE AND THEN COME BACK. I BELIEVE THEY GO THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS AND THE DRB AND DETAIL AT THAT POINT IN TIME, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE DOING THIS IN PHASE. YEAH, YEAH. SO I GUESS THAT PHASE HASN'T COME IN FRONT OF US YET. PROBABLY THAT SECTION. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT SECTION HAS COME THROUGH FOR THE FINAL PLAT YET. WE DO HAVE JUST SOUTH OF THAT WAS PLATTED, BUT I CAN CHECK AND SEE. JUST JUST WONDERING. I MEAN, I STILL THINK YOU SHOULD DO IT. I MEAN, NO, NO, NO, WE'RE WE'RE DOING IT. YEAH, YEAH, I PUT IT. I, I DON'T WANT YOU TO TAKE IT AS I WAS.

YEAH. NO, NO, IT'S NOT I, I TRY NOT TO SPEAK ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S DEVELOPMENTS WHEN I'M PRESENTING WHETHER I'M PRO OR NEGATIVE. BUT I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE IF WHEN PULTE COMES THROUGH FOR YOU GUYS TO ENCOURAGE A PATH TO CONTINUE, BECAUSE THAT CONNECTIVITY IS VERY IMPORTANT AND THAT CONNECTIVITY, I DO KNOW THAT THE CHURCH HAS INTEREST IN ANNEXING INTO THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, AND THAT PATH WOULD BE CRITICAL TO GETTING ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO RIDE A BIKE OR PUSH A STROLLER TO CHURCH, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT DENOMINATION. YEAH. WHEN WE WHEN AMREIN MEADOWS CAME THROUGH, WE HAD ASKED THEM TO DO A CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THAT CORNER, KNOWING THAT IT WOULD CONNECT INTO SOMETHING INTO THE FUTURE. SO WE NEED TO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE MERGE THOSE TWO PLANS TOGETHER. THIS THIS MARYSVILLE NORTH WITH, WITH THAT CORNER OF AMREIN MEADOWS RELATED TO THAT PARK SPACE. AND HOW ARE THOSE GOING TO LOOK? WE ASKED, BUT WE

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DIDN'T GET THAT. IT WAS LIKE PULLING TEETH TO GET TO WHERE THE STUFF IS BECAUSE THAT IS VERY, VERY CRITICAL THAT WE DON'T PUT IT IN THE BACK OF SOMEBODY'S HOUSE. YES, YES, ALONG THE LINE OF THOSE TRAILS ON THE WEST SIDE. COULD YOU PULL THAT UP? 131 DID I HEAR YOU SAY, I MEAN, ARE THERE PARTS THAT ARE INTENDED TO CROSS 31, I GUESS, OR, OR IS IT JUST ALL ON THE EAST SIDE OF 31? THIS IS THE MAIN I MEAN, THIS IS THE MAIN TRAIL SYSTEM HERE. SO THERE ARE CROSSINGS AT THE ROUNDABOUT THAT ALREADY EXIST THAT GOES BETWEEN HERE AND MEADOWS, AND THAT WHETHER THE ENGINEER WILL ALLOW US TO PUT A CROSSING THERE. IF I DON'T THINK IT DOESN'T SEEM GREAT, BUT I WAS. NO, NO, IT GOES I THINK I HAVE LET ME GO BACK TO THE GOING THE WRONG WAY.

THERE'S, THERE'S KIND OF AN OPEN FIELD ON THE OTHER SIDE AT THAT POINT. YOU KIND OF UP HERE.

WELL, ACTUALLY THERE'S A POND HERE AND THEN IT OPENS UP INTO A FIELD. SO YEAH, THERE'S NOT A PATH THAT GOES THROUGH THERE RIGHT NOW. BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE WE'D WORK WITH THE ENGINEER TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER WE COULD HAVE A CROSSING THERE BEFORE THE ROUNDABOUT, OR THEY HAD TO GO LITERALLY A COUPLE STREETS. AND I DO HAVE. YEAH. SO THE BECAUSE OF THE CONNECTIVITY THAT TRAIL GOES UP TO AROUND ABOUT AND IT CROSSES RIGHT THERE AND GOES THAT WAY. OKAY. SO THIS IS THE POND AND KIND OF WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, THE PART THAT KIND OF OPENS AND DOESN'T HAVE A TRAIL THROUGH IT. SO WE DON'T OBVIOUSLY OWN THAT SIDE, BUT WE'D WORK WITH AN HOA OR WHATEVER THEY WANT. BUT I WOULD LOOK FOR KYLE AND STAFF TO HELP US TRY TO FIGURE OUT. THE GOAL HERE IS TO CONNECT TO THE MILL VALLEY, FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO COME THROUGH, AND US TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE RESERVOIR. YOU GUYS JUST SPEND ALL THAT MONEY ON THAT BRIDGE, SOMEBODY'S GOT TO USE IT. OKAY, I'M GOING TO JUMP AROUND A LITTLE BIT. SO AS A COMMENT FROM STAFF A COUPLE TIMES ABOUT THE STREET WIDTHS, ASKING FOR 70 FOOT RIGHT AWAY AND I THINK I SAW A RESPONSE PREVIOUSLY WAS WE CANNOT DO THAT RIGHT NOW. IT'S ALL LINES ON PAPER. SO WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT. WELL, YEAH. SO THE OUR INTENT HERE IS THAT THESE ARE LOCAL ROADS. SO YOU HAVE I BELIEVE IT'S STREET LAYOUT, EIGHT 910, 11 FROM THAT STANDPOINT. SO I CANNOT COMMIT TO 70 FOOT RIGHT OF WAYS HERE BECAUSE OF THE DISCUSSION LEFT OPEN. I HAVE TALKED TO THE ENGINEER ABOUT THAT AND WE'LL WORK THROUGH THAT. THE 70 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY DOESN'T TELL ME THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD. SO WE HAVE COMMITTED TO BUILDING A PROFILE OF THIS ROAD. SO THE MAJORITY OF THIS, THE ROADS THAT ARE IN THIS COMMUNITY, I HAVE COMMITTED THAT 70 FOOT, FROM THIS SECTION TO HERE INTO GREEN, SO THAT THAT WILL BE A WIDER TYPE OF ROAD THAT WE CAN PUT IN THERE. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS MEANT TO BE COMMUNITY, COMPACT, SHORT STREETS. THESE ARE ALL FOCUS AREA CRITERIA, SHORT STREETS. SO THEY'RE MORE WALKABLE. YOU DON'T WANT REALLY, REALLY LONG STREETS. AND I DO HAVE 1 OR 2 OF THOSE. BUT WE'RE TRYING TO DO SHORTER STREETS AND MAKING IT WALKABLE AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A 70 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, IT DOESN'T TELL ME HOW WIDE THE ROAD WIDTH. SO AS WE START TO BUILD THAT, AND IF YOU HAVE HOUSES ON BOTH SIDES, I HAVE COMMITTED TO ONE FOOT OUT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. YOU HIT THE SIDEWALK, WHICH IS NOW FIVE FOOT. THAT'S SIX FOOT. I HAVE IN THE SINGLE FAMILY AREAS. I'VE COMMITTED TO NINE FEET. SO NOW WE'RE AT 15 FOOT. THEN YOU DETERMINE WHAT THE ROAD WIDTH IS. I'VE COMMITTED TO AT LEAST ONE SIDE PARKING THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE AREA, THE EXCEPTIONS BEING AROUND THE INTERIOR PARKS. WE DO NOT WANT CARS PARKED AROUND THE INTERIOR PARKS TO KEEP THAT, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT KIDS COMING OUT OF THE PARK AND RUNNING BETWEEN CARS AND GETTING INTO TRAFFIC SO YOU CAN AT LEAST SEE THEM. AND WHAT THAT THAT WOULD BE THIS PARK, THAT WOULD BE THIS PARK AND THESE LITTLE PARK PARKS. SO WE HAVE COMMITTED TO A SINGLE SIDE OF PARKING THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE COMMITTED TO DOUBLE SIDE BECAUSE YOU REALLY NEED THE DOUBLE SIDE WHERE YOU HAVE THE REAR LOADING GARAGES. SO IN THIS TOWNHOME AREA HERE. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A DOUBLE SIDE PARKING. WE WILL CONTINUE DOUBLE SIDE PARKING ALL HERE BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL FRONT AND REAR CONNECTING THE SIDEWALK TO THE FRONT PORCH BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A GARAGE. SO WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A PLACE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO PARK. OTHERWISE THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE WASTE GROUND.

SO WE ARE DOING DOUBLE SIDE ALL THE WAY AROUND THIS PARK TO ENCOURAGE THAT. BUT WHEN YOU PUT THAT, THAT PARKING IN, WHICH WOULD BE NINE FEET, SO NOW YOU'VE GOT 16 FOOT BETWEEN THE TREE LINE, THE SIDEWALK, YOU GOT ANOTHER FOOT FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY TO END. NOW YOU'VE GOT NINE

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FOOT AT LEAST ON ONE SIDE. YOU THEN GET BACK TO, OKAY, WHAT IS THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD. AND THEN YOU DO IT AGAIN ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO WE THINK THESE ARE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 55 AND 60 FOOT, BUT THEY COULD BE I LOOK AT PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY THAT'S GOT THE ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE.

THAT IS THAT IS A 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY. SO COMMITTING TO A 70 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY HERE SCARES ME, BECAUSE IT COULD END UP HAVING A HUGE ROAD THAT BECOMES THE FREEWAY. THIS IS NOT A FREEWAY. OUR PEOPLE MOVERS, IF YOU GO TO JEROME VILLAGE, HIGHLAND, CROY IS THE PEOPLE MOVER THAT MOVES PEOPLE THROUGH THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT, AND IT GOES THROUGH ROUNDABOUTS AND IT DOESN'T STOP. IT TAKES YOU TO YOUR INDIVIDUAL POD. RAVEN HILL AT JEROME VILLAGE, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR, RUNS EAST AND WEST. FROM THAT STANDPOINT. OUR PEOPLE MOVERS HERE BECAUSE JEROME VILLAGE IS 2000 ACRES, OUR PEOPLE MOVERS HERE ARE 31. AND FOR OUR PRIMARY PEOPLE MOVER IS GOING TO BE FOUR, BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET AWAY FROM THE TRAFFIC ON THE MILL VALLEY SIDE.

AND THEN THE OTHER PEOPLE MOVER IS TO CONNECT BETWEEN THOSE IS OUR COOKS BOULEVARD. CAMERON WOOD IS A CONNECTION, BUT WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT. SO WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING A THOROUGHFARE THROUGH HERE, BUT GOING THROUGH A PROJECT, PUTTING A THOROUGHFARE OF HIGHER SPEEDS.

WE WANT LOW SPEEDS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THIS BEING ONLY 240 ACRES. I KNOW THAT SOUNDS REALLY WEIRD, BUT WE ALREADY HAVE THE HIGH SPEED OR THE HIGHER SPEED DENSITIES OR HIGHER SPEED AREAS TO MOVE PEOPLE THROUGHOUT IT. AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO PROBABLY FIND IS THAT MULTIPLE OF THESE INTERSECTIONS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ROUNDABOUTS, WHETHER YOU LIKE THEM OR NOT. I KNOW THE FARMERS HATE THEM, BUT YOU HAVE ROLLOVER ROUNDABOUTS, AND I THINK YOU'LL END UP WHEN WE GET THROUGH THE ENGINEERING PROCESS. AND WE HAVE TALKED TO THE ENGINEER ABOUT THIS, AND WE'VE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAYS TO THAT. YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT 18 YEARS OF WORKING IN UNION COUNTY WITH MARYSVILLE AND UTILITIES, ETC. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO FIND A WIN WIN. BUT I CAN'T COMMIT TO 70 FOOT RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M NOT COMMITTING TO. SO I'M I'M GIVING YOU THE PIECES THAT ARE GOING TO BE USED TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT IS. I JUST DON'T WANT A 40 FOOT ASPHALT ROAD GOING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF WHAT IS A RESIDENTIAL. I DON'T THINK THAT THE CITY DOES EITHER, SO I HAVE NO DOUBT I WILL LET KYLE OR STAFF CONFIRM WHETHER OR NOT THEY THINK WE WILL WORK THIS OUT. BUT IT'S SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, ENGINEERING IS GOING TO HAVE TO AGREE TO WHATEVER THAT FINAL WIDTH IS. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO PROBABLY AGREE TO WHATEVER.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT ENGINEERING SAYS. THEY'RE GOING TO SIGN OFF ON IT. SO YEAH. BUT I'M SO I'M LAYING OUT AND WE TOOK A LOT OF TIME TO REVISE THIS OVER THE LAST COUPLE DAYS TO DEFINE THE COMPONENTS THAT WILL GO INTO THAT. AND I HAVE HAD AN INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATION WITH KYLE, AND I THINK WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. SO BUT THAT'S WHY THAT THE ANSWER IS I TRIED NOT TO WRITE IT. THAT WHERE IT SAYS I AGREE TO ALL ENGINEERING COMMENTS. I KIND OF NICELY SAID NO. BUT THEN I DETAILED IT OUT AND KYLE AND I HAVE HAD A SEPARATE MEETING OUTSIDE. I JUST DON'T THINK THESE ENGINEERING PIECES ARE ACTUALLY A LAND USE, ZONING AND PLANNING ISSUE, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO SPEND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO ENGINEER THIS AS SOON AS WE FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT WE GET APPROVAL FOR WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DESIGNED HERE. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. I HAVE JUST ONE. THE HOA IS THERE GOING TO BE ONE FOR THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT? I'M GUESSING THREE WOULD BE. YEAH. SO THE RETAIL HOA WILL KIND OF BE ON ITS OWN.

AND YOU'LL HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL, THE SINGLE FAMILY WILL ALL BE TOGETHER AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE A COMMUNITY AUTHORITY HERE. BUT THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY, A LOT OF PEOPLE MISUNDERSTAND COMMUNITY AUTHORITIES. IT IS NOT A GLORIFIED HOA. THE HOA IS THERE TO ESTABLISH GENERAL STANDARDS FOR HOW THE PEOPLE LIVE AMONGST EACH OTHER. WHEN YOU PUT YOUR HALLOWEEN DECORATIONS OUT, WHEN YOU DO YOUR TRASH CANS, YOU KNOW, MOW YOUR YARD SO STAFF DOESN'T HAVE TO SPEND TIME TELLING SOMEBODY TO MOW THE YARD. THE HOA WILL GET TO THEM, AND THEN THEY DO MAINTAIN SOME OF THE COMMON AREAS, IN THIS CASE, ALL THE PONDS, THE COMMON AREAS, THE TALL GRASSES THAT WILL ONLY BE MOWED DOWN ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR AROUND THE PONDS THAT WILL ALL BE MAINTAINED BY THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY. THE CLUBHOUSE WILL BE OPERATED BY THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY AND NOT THE HOA. SO THIS HOA WILL BOIL DOWN TO KIND OF JUST MAKING SURE THAT ALL PLAY TOGETHER. NOW ON THE RETAIL SIDE, THEY'LL SNOWPLOW THE PARKING LOTS, THEY'LL, YOU KNOW, PAY TO MAINTAIN THE ASPHALT IN THE PRIVATE PARKING LOTS, THE LIGHTS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS, AND VERY LIKELY TO MAINTAIN THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. BUT LIKE I SAID, IN THE HIGHER DENSITY AREA, IT WILL HAVE ITS OWN HOA BECAUSE OF SOME PECULIAR, PECULIAR TYPE PIECES.

BUT. THAT HOA WILL NOT MOW THE GRASS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS. WHERE A CONDO ASSOCIATION WOULD.

THEY WON'T MAINTAIN THE OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSES. THOSE ARE ALL GOING TO BE INDIVIDUAL PLATTED HOMEOWNERS THERE, EVEN IF IT'S THE TOWNHOMES. GOT IT. SO BUT YOU WILL YOU WILL HAVE AN HOA THAT WE WILL PROBABLY MANAGE UNTIL WE'RE 75% OF THE LOTS, AND THEN WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE RESIDENTS, WHICH IS VERY COMMON. AND THEN THIS IS MINOR, BUT THE RETAIL KIND OF JUST WHERE MY BRAIN GOES. CAN WE GO TO THE USES FOR THE RETAIL REAL QUICK? MY ONLY COMMENT IS ON EMERGENCY

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CARE FACILITY. YEAH. IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE COULD PUT A SIZE QUALIFIER ON THAT. SO IT'S NOT A FIVE ACRE EMERGENCY ROOM, IT'S NOT MY TARGET MARKET. I KNOW IT'S NOT. WE WOULDN'T WE WOULDN'T HAVE RETAIL HERE IF IT WAS PROBABLY MY CHOICE. BUT IT IS PART OF THE FOCUS AREA. SO I MEAN AND I THINK IT'S WITH DAWN DRIVE COMING UP, IT SETS UP WELL FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT. I'LL LET YOU DEFINE WHATEVER CRITERIA YOU WANT ON THAT. THAT'S THAT'S NOT OUR I GET IT. BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS DOWN THE LINE, IT'S ABSOLUTELY NO, NO, ABSOLUTELY I MEAN CASE SCENARIO KIND OF THING. THAT'S ALL. YEAH. IT'S NOT THE INTENDED PIECE.

ABSOLUTELY. YOU KNOW. YEAH. I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU WHAT A SMALL CENTER, I GUESS OVER, OVER BY THE MEXICAN RESTAURANT. THERE'S, THERE IS MEMORIAL HOUSE LIKE, HAS A WOUND CARE. YEAH. WOUND CARE. IT'S THE WEIRDEST THING BECAUSE I'M NOT REALLY SURE. YOU KNOW, IF I HAD A WOUND THAT I WOULD REMEMBER TO GO TO THAT SPECIFIC LOCATION VERSUS AN ER, BUT THAT'S THE ONE. I COULDN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS CALLED. I THOUGHT IT WAS A FRACTURE CARE OR SOMETHING, BUT. WELL. ANYWAY, NO, NO, OBVIOUSLY I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO. SINCE YOU HAVE IT UP. GOING BACK TO THAT, I'LL, I'LL LOOK FOR STAFF IF YOU WANT TO PUT SOME CRITERIA AROUND THAT, JUST TELL ME KIND OF OR HONESTLY IF YOU WANT TO REMOVE IT, I DON'T AND I GUESS SENIOR LIVING KIND OF THE SAME. YES. I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT NECESSARILY, BUT THERE'S NO NOTHING STOPPING YOU FROM DOING SEVEN AND A HALF ACRES OF A SENIOR LIVING FACILITY, RIGHT? YES. JOE CHAPMAN. SO JOE, JOE, JOE IS GOING TO BE A PARTNER. HE'S GOT THREE PARCELS HERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HOW TO KIND OF DO THIS TOGETHER. BUT AT ONE POINT WE WERE LOOKING AT SENIOR CARE. WE ACTUALLY WENT ON THIS FACILITY. WE WENT TO BLUEBIRD, A VERY NICE FACILITY, AND ASKED IF THEY WANTED. AND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE EVERYBODY I BUY LAND OFF OF THERE ALL THEY ALL LIVE IN THERE. BUT, BUT BUT THEY PASSED ON THIS SITE FOR RIGHT NOW THEY'RE A LITTLE BUSY IN MADISON COUNTY. SO THOSE THOSE ARE NOT OUR PRIMARY. YEAH. SO IF YOU PREFER TO WORK WITH I'LL TAKE WHATEVER RECOMMENDATION STAFF HAS FOR BOTH OF THOSE DEFINITIONS. IF YOU WANT TO KIND OF CURTAIL THEM INTO A SMALLER BOX. THAT'S ALL I HAD. OKAY. REMIND ME WHEN YOU MENTIONED EV CHARGING. SO LIKE YOU SAID LIKE ONE. YEAH. NO, NO WHEN BASED ON DEMAND. SO IT'S AS PART OF NATIONWIDE I MANAGE PARKING IN THE ARENA DISTRICT, WHICH WAS IN GRAB YOUR YARD WHICH WAS THE THIRD LARGEST PORTFOLIO. SO WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY PUTTING EV STATIONS IN ALL OUR PARKING GARAGES AND ALL THAT. AND IN CENTRAL OHIO, NOBODY USES THEM UNLESS YOU LIVE THERE. SO PEOPLE THAT COMMUTE THE COMMUTES AREN'T LONG ENOUGH FOR THE TESLAS AND THE EVS TO NEED TO CHARGE. IF YOU GO TO A STORE OR YOU GO TO A RESTAURANT, YOU DON'T. WHERE YOU NEED THEM IS IF YOU WERE TRAVELING LONG DISTANCES TRYING TO GO TO LIMA, OHIO, THEN YOU MIGHT WANT TO STOP. BUT THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE THE TARGET AS TO WHERE SOMEBODY STOPS FOR A TESLA SUPERCHARGER. AND TRUTHFULLY, I DON'T REALLY WANT THEM THERE. YOU KNOW, WE'LL MAKE THEM AVAILABLE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE VISITING THIS.

IF THEY WANT TO CHARGE IN THOSE, THEY WILL NOT BE FOR FREE. THE ONE IN DOWNTOWN MARYSVILLE IS FOR FREE. WHAT IT IS ANYMORE? NOT ANYMORE. OH, IT WAS FOR A WHILE. I HAD A HYBRID FOR A WHILE. I'VE DRIVEN AROUND A COUPLE TIMES LOOKING FOR THE FREE GAS, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND IT. IT'S JUST A I'M A FUNNY PERSON IN MY OWN MIND. BUT FROM THIS STANDPOINT WE WILL. AND IF PEOPLE USE IT. BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAD THE, THE, THE MULTI-FAMILY, THE POSSIBILITY OF THAT, WE WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO PUT THEM IN BECAUSE IN THE ARENA DISTRICT, WHEN WE WERE JUST RETAIL AND OFFICE, WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY. WE PUT 26 IN THEM AND THEY WERE AVAILABLE 24 HOURS A DAY, AND WE HAD TESLAS THAT PARKED IN THEM DURING BLUEJACKET GAMES AND DIDN'T CHARGE BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A PRIVATE, YOU KNOW, PARKING SPACE. BUT WHEN WE STARTED DOING MASSIVE AMOUNT OF APARTMENTS, I ALWAYS TOLD EVERYBODY, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHARGE AT HOME BECAUSE THE COMMUTES ARE SMALL, BUT WHEN THEY'RE LIVING THERE, THEN WE HAD TO START TO ADDRESS IT AND WE STARTED TO PUT MORE AND MORE AS WE DID CONDOS, ETC.

SO, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS, WITH ALL THIS BEING SINGLE FAMILY, THERE'S NOTHING THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM PUTTING IT IN THEIR GARAGE. BUT WE DID. IT'S A FOCUS AREA ITEM. SO WE COMMITTED TO ONE OR MORE BASED ON DEMAND. WE WILL DO AT LEAST ONE. AND ONCE YOU EXTEND THE UTILITIES OUT THERE, YOU KNOW THAT'S THE BULK OF THE EXPENSE. I MEAN, YOU COULD BE LOOKING AT 10 TO $12,000 TO EXTEND POWER OUT THERE BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE SERVICE THAT'S NEEDED. SO WHEN YOU GET THERE, PUTTING ONE WHICH IS USUALLY ABOUT A $4,000 STATION IS THERE, AND IF IT'S USED, THEN WE CAN PUT A SECOND IN THE SAME AREA. IT WILL NOT BE UP AGAINST THE BUILDING BECAUSE THAT IS NOT WHERE YOU WANT THEM SITTING THERE CHARGING FOR, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW SOME OF THEM FOR 12 HOURS. SO BY ONE STATION, IS IT ONE STATION THAT HAS TWO CONNECTIONS OR ONE STATION? ONE

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CONNECTION? WELL, WE'VE COMMITTED TO A CHARGING STATION, SO I, I'D LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST TWO SPOTS I GUESS IS OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IS THAT ALL RIGHT? SO YOU I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE SYSTEM, SO YES. AND I WILL SHARE THE REPORTS AS TO HOW OFTEN IT'S USED WITH YOU. I KNOW THE ONE THAT WAS FREE. IT'S NOT FREE ANYMORE. WHEN I HAD HYBRID, IT WAS IT WAS ONLY AVAILABLE ABOUT HALF THE TIME. WELL THERE WAS A WHITE TESLA THAT WAS THERE EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

SO BUT I WAS FAMILIAR WITH THE VEHICLES THAT USED IT. BUT YEAH, I WAS WONDERING IF DONALD OR SOMEBODY HAD A WHITE TESLA. NO. I'M JOKING. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? ANYTHING FROM STAFF THAT I'M. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. JUST TO CLARIFY, SOME OF OUR STAFF REQUESTS OR STAFF COMMENTS WITH HIS SUBMISSION. YOU HAD A STATEMENT IN THERE, BART, THAT YOU REMOVED VINYL. WAS THAT FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ONLY OR IS THAT PART OF THE TOWNHOMES AS WELL? ALL OF IT. OKAY. THE FOUNDATION COVERING THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE HOMES IS PARKING ALLOWED AS PART OF THAT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THAT CHARGING? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, WHERE YOU'RE KIND OF LIKE USING CONCRETE TO CREATE THAT. ALMOST LIKE A STUCCO. YEAH. I WOULD PROBABLY SAY YES. I'D LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU GUYS. IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A PRODUCT THAT WE USE TO JEROME VILLAGE. IT WASN'T OUTLINED IN THERE. SO THAT'S WHY I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY IF THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IF THAT CAME FORWARD. YEAH. WHAT WHAT WE WOULDN'T ALLOW IS IF YOU HAD A DECORATIVE FOUNDATION POURED THAT LOOKED LIKE BRICK AND THAT YOU PAINTED IT WHITE, WE WOULD NOT WANT. OKAY. WE'VE WE'VE GOT THREE BUILDERS THAT WE'RE WORKING HERE. THEY'RE ALL TOP LEVEL. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. BUT IF YOU WANT THAT TO CONSIDER, I'D GLADLY ADD IT TO IT. AND LOOK WHAT THAT IS. BUT I'D LEAVE THAT OPEN TO THE BOARD TO RECOMMEND ELIMINATING THAT PARGING. OR IF THAT'S FINE. THAT WAS JUST A QUESTION. I IT'S NOT IN THERE, BUT I WANTED TO. YEAH.

I CAN'T TAKE AWAY OVER TIME. YEAH. BUT AND WE GAVE THEM THE OPTION BECAUSE THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO LANDSCAPE AT ALL. AND WE DECIDED THAT STONE AND BRICK AND THEY STILL CAN LANDSCAPE SOME BUT THEY HAVE THE OPTION STONE, BRICK, A PLINTH BOARD WHICH WOULD BE A NATURAL MATERIAL TYPE THING. OR THEY CAN LANDSCAPE THE WHOLE FOUNDATION. OKAY. AND THEN WILL YOU HAVE TOPSOIL WITH THE SOD AS WELL? WE WILL NOT. SO YOU ACTUALLY DON'T NEED IT. AND I'VE GOT 2000, 2300 HOUSES AT JEROME VILLAGE. NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM PUT TOPSOIL, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THAT, AND THE MAJORITY OF THEIR GRASSES GROW. SO I CAN GET YOU SOME INFORMATION ON THAT. YOU ACTUALLY DO NOT GROWS, BUT IT DOESN'T GROW. GROW. GREAT. YES, I AGREE, I AGREE, I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT. BUT NO, NO, BUT THERE THERE IS, THERE IS A RAKING IN THIS WILL BE TO THE BUILDERS. THERE IS A RAKING PROCESS. YOU HAVE TO RAKE THE GRAVEL OFF THE LOT. AND I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THE STONES THAT ARE IN THE CLAY THAT COME UP WITH IT, BUT WHEN YOU LAY THE GRAVEL DOWN FOR THE POOR OF THE FOUNDATION AND THE POOR OR NOT THE FOUNDATION, THE, THE, WELL, SOME OF IT'S FOUR DAYS, BUT THE POOR OF THE SIDEWALK, THE POOR OF THE DRIVEWAY, THAT GRAVEL GETS OFF. AND A LOT OF TIMES THAT GRAVEL GETS PUSHED OUT INTO THE YARD. YEAH, RIGHT. THAT'S THE REASON TOPSOIL IS NOT GOING TO HELP COVER GRAVEL. THE GRAVEL NEEDS TO BE RAKED FROM THE PROCESS LONG BEFORE. IF YOU LAY SOD ON CLAY, THE SOD AND THE PROCESS WILL CONTINUE TO GO DOWN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BREAK UP. IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO LIKE ADDING PEAT MOSS TO CLAY. IT SLOWLY BREAKS UP AND DECAYS THE CLAY OVER TIME. SO LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE NOT REQUIRED A DRONE VILLAGE. THAT TOPSOIL WILL COME IN OTHER THAN THE SIX INCHES ON ON THE BED. SO WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT TOPSOIL, YOU'RE BRINGING IN A LOT OF MATERIALS TO COVER A LOT AT THAT POINT IN TIME. OR MAYBE NOT TOPSOIL, BUT SOME SORT OF DIRT THAT'S NOT GOING TO THAT'S GOING TO HELP WITH THE CLAY IN THE SOD ON THERE. THAT SO THAT'S WHY WE COMMITTED TO THE SOD. AND I MADE THE COMMENT THAT WE WOULD EXPLAIN THAT IF YOU WERE ALLOWING SEED ON LARGER LOTS, THEN YOU NEED TOPSOIL BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO GROW. AND, YOU KNOW, ON ONE ACRE LOTS OF DRONE VILLAGE, WE ALLOWED THE BACK TO, TO GROW OR TO BE SEEDED. AND WE REGRETTED THAT WHEN YOU COULDN'T GET IT TO GROW BECAUSE NOT VERY MUCH TOPSOIL WAS ADDED. BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD PROBLEMS WITH WITH THE SOD IN DRONE VILLAGE. THAT'S ALL I HAD.

THOSE WERE QUESTIONS I WANTED TO BRING UP TO ALLOW THE BOARD TO DISCUSS WITH HIM. OKAY, BEFORE WE OPEN UP TO CITIZENS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS COME UP. ALL RIGHT. IF NOT, IF THERE ARE ANY CITIZENS HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC, YOU CAN COME TO THE PODIUM. YOU HAVE UP TO FIVE MINUTES. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. OKAY, A COUPLE PEOPLE. ALL GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ON

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THE STAFF COMMENTS. SO ON THE ONE REGARDING THE GARAGE PLACEMENTS, IT STATES THAT IN YOUR RESPONSE, IT STATED THAT IT WAS ADDED TO THE TEXT FOR THE SUB AREAS B, C, AND D, BUT I DID NOT NOTICE IT STATING THAT THE GARAGES WOULD NOT BE IN THE FRONT WOOD. THE GARAGES WILL BE IN THE FRONT FOR, BUT THEY WILL BE IN FRONT. NO, NO. CORRECT. SO THEY WILL BE TWO FOOT BEHIND THE HOUSE. THEY CAN BE EQUAL OR THEY CAN BE TWO FRONT IN FRONT OF THE PORCH. IF THE PORCH OR I'M SORRY I SAID THAT WRONG, THEY CAN BE TWO FOOT BEHIND THE HOUSE. THEY CAN BE EVEN TO THE HOUSE, OR THEY CAN BE TWO FOOT IN FRONT OF THE MAIN BODY OF THE PORCH. AS LONG AT THE BODY OF THE HOUSE, AS LONG AS THE PORCH CONTINUES TO EXTEND OUT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE IF THAT GARAGE COMES OUT, IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE SIX FOOT PORCHES COME INTO PLAY IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO EXTEND THAT BACK OUT. SO DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW, WHERE DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT WAS ADDED? BECAUSE I COULD NOT FIND IT AND I DID NOT SEE IT IN THE RED LINE VERSION EITHER. LET ME LET ME LOOK. I WILL COMMIT TO WRITING THAT EXACTLY HOW I STATED IT. OBVIOUSLY AT THE TIME. I WENT TO THE CITY MEETING LAST NIGHT AND WENT HOME AND ATE AND SLEPT, AND THEN WOKE UP AT THREE REALIZING I HADN'T GOT THAT FINISHED. SO YEAH, WE CAN JUST DO THAT. YEAH, BUT THAT THAT'S THAT'S THE RULE THAT WAS THERE. AND I THINK I ALLUDED TO THAT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER IN THIS MEETING. SO YEAH. YEAH. NO. WELL YEAH OUR OUR TEXT IS NOW 60 PAGES. SO AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S NOT I, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF STORYTELLING IN THERE BECAUSE IT CAPTURES KIND OF WHAT THE FOCUS AREA IS INTENDED TO DO AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. OKAY. WITH THAT SAID, DO WE HAVE A MOTION WITH THE STIPULATIONS OF NO PARGING OF THE FOUNDATION WALLS, EXTERIOR FOUNDATION WALLS ENSURE THE GARAGE DOES NOT EXTEND PAST THE FRONT OF THE IS EQUAL TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, OR IF IT IS FRONT OF THE HOUSE, INCLUDES A PORCH THAT EXTENDS FURTHER OUT RIGHT AND A MINIMUM OF TWO EV STATIONS. NO VINYL? NO AND NO. I MEAN THAT THAT WAS PART OF THE PRESENTATION. SO AND THEN THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF HOW TO ADDRESS THE TWO RETAIL USES. SO DO WE WANT TO MOVE THOSE TO CONDITIONAL OR THAT WOULD I MEAN THE EASIEST WAY TO DO IT PROBABLY OKAY. SO MOVE IT WAS SENIOR LIVING. ARE YOU ABOUT THE SIZE. AND THAT'S FINE WITH ME AND THE EMERGENCY. YEAH I THINK IT WAS AN EMERGENCY CARE FACILITY. I THINK IT'S A FACILITY. IT IS EMERGENCY CARE FACILITY. YEAH. OKAY. YES. SO MOVE EMERGENCY CARE FACILITY AND SENIOR LIVING. INDEPENDENT LIVING TO CONDITIONAL. YEAH. THAT WORKS FOR ME. I JUST WANT TO KILL THEM. WE MAKE A MOTION.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S THAT'S. YEAH. THANK YOU, CHAD, FOR HIS MOTION FOR APPROVAL. I SECOND THAT MOTION. RON, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MISS VOBIS? YES, MR. WOLNIEWICZ. YES, MR. ENGLE. YES, MR. FISHER? YES, MISS. LAUB. YES. MR. STILLION. MR. NICKERSON. YES. THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE THE TIME AND RIGHT. EVERYTHING I JUST COMMITTED TO DOWN WHEN I HAVE

[1. To hear an application for a Zoning Code Amendment to Part Eleven - Zoning Code, Sections 1121.13 – Manufacturing/Innovation District (M/I) and Appendix – Glossary of Terms.]

ANOTHER ARM. GOOD, GOOD. OKAY, SO WE WILL MOVE BACK TO THE FIRST ITEM ON NEW BUSINESS. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE FOR HERE AN APPLICATION FOR A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE SECTIONS 112, 1.31 MANUFACTURING INNOVATION DISTRICT MI AND APPENDIX GLOSSARY OF TERMS. DO WE NEED TO HAVE THEM? YES. COULD YOU PLEASE STAND UP? FIND MY CORRECT PAPER.

IT IS SOMEWHERE HERE, SO RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU DECLARE THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH AND THE WHOLE TRUTH, UNDER THE PAINS AND PENALTIES OF PERJURY AND FALSIFICATION SIGNAL BY SAYING, I WILL, I WILL. THANK YOU, SIR. SO PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND TELL US WHAT YOU'RE HERE FOR. CARLTON DEAN, STAIRWAY SOLUTIONS, 14 711 INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY, MARYSVILLE, OHIO. ALL RIGHT, SO I KNOW THAT WE SAW YOU A SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. YES. AND WE DID NOT HAVE A DEFINITION FOR THE FACILITY TO WHICH YOU WERE HOPING TO BRING TO THE CITY. SO TELL US A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. PERFECT. SO I THINK THE FIRST TIME THROUGH, WE WANTED TO GET THIS AS A PERMITTED USE IN THE CITY. AND THE MAIN PART HERE IS CHANGING THIS TO A CONDITIONAL USE. WE HAD A MEETING, I APOLOGIZE, I CAN'T RECALL THE DATE. ROUGHLY ABOUT A MONTH AGO

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WE MET IN PERSON. I THINK THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT CONCERN AROUND OUR FACILITY AND THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION, THINKING THAT THIS MAY BE INCINERATION. IT'S OBVIOUSLY COMPLETELY NOT INCINERATION. SO WE FELT THE NEED. WE MET WITH THE LAW DIRECTOR OR HAD SOME DIALOG WITH THE LAW DIRECTOR IN AND AROUND CHANGING THIS TO A CONDITIONAL USE, MAKING SURE THAT WE OUTLINED WE ARE NOT DOING INCINERATION. WE WILL NEVER GO FOR INCINERATION IN MARYSVILLE OR UNION COUNTY. THIS IS STRICTLY ONLY FOR AUTOCLAVE PURPOSES FOR BIO WASTE, NOT HAZARDOUS WASTE. SO I THINK THEY NEEDED A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION JUST EXACTLY ON WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE AND WHAT WE'RE TREATING. THAT'S I THINK OVERALL WHAT WE WERE ADJUSTING HERE. OKAY. JUST FOR MY OWN UNDERSTANDING OF THE DEFINITION, IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BIO WASTE AND BIO MEDICAL WASTE? BIOMEDICAL. IT ALL CLASSIFIES AS BIOMEDICAL WASTE. IT'S TECHNICALLY REGULATED BY THE EPA. SO IT'S WHAT WE CAN BE, WHAT WE CAN TREAT ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF E-WASTE. SO IF YOU HAVE LIKE CHEMO WASTE, WE CANNOT TREAT THAT. THAT CANNOT COME TO OUR FACILITY. IF YOU HAVE PATHOGEN WASTE, WHICH IS ALL CLASSIFIED AS MEDICAL WASTE STREAMS. BUT THAT IS NOT STUFF THAT IS APPROVED BY EPA FOR US TO TREAT. IT CAN NOT BE TREATED THROUGH AUTOCLAVE PROCESS THAT HAS TO BE INCINERATED. AND I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF THE CONFUSION FROM THE COUNCIL LEVEL WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT GENERAL SCOPE.

IF YOU JUST GOOGLE, YOU KNOW, MEDICAL WASTE, YOU GET A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF MEDICAL WASTE. RIGHT? AND THE MIND WANDERS. WE CANNOT TREAT THAT THROUGH AUTOCLAVE. MOST OF IT GOES TO INCINERATION. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW DETAILS IT ACTUALLY GOES OVER TO BALTIMORE. SO IT'S GOING TO INCINERATION PLACE CALLED CURTIS BAY. WE DON'T TOUCH IT. SAME THING FOR HAZARDOUS WASTE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS. WE NEVER TOUCH IT. WE NEVER MANIFEST IT. WE NEVER TAKE POSSESSION OF IT. WE JUST CONNECT THEM DIRECTLY WITH THE THIRD PARTY THAT MANAGES THAT WASTE STREAM. WE ONLY TREAT WHAT'S ALLOWED BY EPA UNDER THIS DEFINITION. THANK YOU. GOOD QUESTION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, ANY CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK. OKAY.

WE DID JUST JUST TO CLARIFY, WE DID ADD THE AUTOCLAVING ONLY IN PARENTHESES TO KIND OF MAKE IT.

YEAH. A LITTLE MORE CLEARER THAT THAT'S THE ONLY OPERATION OF MEDICAL BIOMEDICAL WASTE STERILIZATION THAT IS ALLOWED. OKAY. YOU'VE ADDED THAT SINCE THE PACKET WE DID, WE ADD. WELL, WE ADDED IT SINCE THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE. LAST TIME I WAS HERE WAS JUST BIOMEDICAL WASTE STERILIZATION FACILITY AND I THINK SOME. YEAH, WE WENT TO MAKE IT MORE SPECIFIC TO JUST AUTOCLAVING ONLY SO PEOPLE WOULDN'T THINK IT WAS INCINERATION AND THOSE ITEMS WOULD BE INCLUDED. THAT WAS SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS. WE DID HAVE CONVERSATION WITH OUR LAW DIRECTOR. IF WE NEEDED TO ADD ANYTHING WITH THE OHIO REVISED CODE, THE CODE 3734. AND IT ALSO GOES TO A DIFFERENT SECTION IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE. BUT HE THOUGHT SINCE IT'S LISTED IN THE DEFINITION, THAT THAT WAS OKAY, THAT WE DIDN'T NEED TO ADD IT WITH THAT USE BECAUSE IT IS REGULATED THROUGH THE OHIO REVISED CODE. THERE'S A LOT OF REGULATIONS ON THERE TO GO THROUGH. SO YEAH, THE OHIO REVISED CODE WRAPS IN. I THINK THERE'S TECHNICALLY LIKE FIVE LEGALIZED PROCESSES FOR EPA. SO YOU HAVE MICROWAVING I THINK THERE'S AN OZONE MACHINE WHICH IS 2 MILLION BUCKS. YOU HAVE AUTOCLAVE AND YOU HAVE INCINERATION. AND THERE'S SOME OTHER TECHNOLOGIES. THERE'S FIVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROCESSES YOU CAN TREAT MEDICAL WASTE WITH. WE ARE SPECIFICALLY TRYING TO OUTLINE EXACTLY WHAT WE DID AND AMEND ALL THE REST OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT IS THE WILL OF THE BOARD. IS THERE A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE A SECOND OKAY.

THANK YOU. MR. LOWE, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. NICKERSON? YES, MISS VERBOSE? YES, MR. WOLFOWITZ. YES, MR. INGLE. YES, MR. FISHER. YES, MISS. LAUB. YES. MR. STOYAN.

YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU COMING FOR THE TARDINESS. THANK YOU. JEFF, APPRECIATE THAT. AND WE WILL HAVE YOU. WE'LL HAVE YOU ON THE AGENDA ON MONDAY FOR THE COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE FIRST TEN, 24TH AND THEN APRIL 14TH. YEP. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL

[DISCUSSION ITEMS]

RIGHT. THAT MOVES US ON TO DISCUSSION ITEMS WHICH WE HAVE MEETING CALENDAR AS AN ITEM APRIL 7TH. YOU SAID FOR THE YES. DO YOU GUYS WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. WE CAN THE SO APRIL 7TH WOULD BE THE JOINT WORK SESSION WITH COUNCIL. AND WE WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY VISION PLAN AND PROVIDING AN UPDATE ON THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR WORK SESSION STARTS AT SIX BECAUSE I WAS A HALF HOUR LATE LAST TIME I THINK. IT WILL BE AT POLICE AND

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