Mar 24, 2025 City Council

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EVERYBODY. IT'S 7:00. I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE MARCH 24TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND STAY RIGH. STAY STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALMIGHTY GOD, WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND ITS CITIZENS. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU. ROLL CALL. ZACH BORDNER. HERE. STEVEN. WOLF. HERE. HANK. FURBY. DONALD. BURGER. SCOTT. HUNTER. HERE.

MARK REAMS. AND JULIE KRAMER. HERE. IS THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE MARCH 10TH, 2025 CITY

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[ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]

A REMINDER OF THE EXTENDED HOURS FOR INCOME TAX ASSISTANCE. WE. OFFER ASSISTANCE. AND INCOME TAX RETURNS ARE DUE AGAIN, AS A REMINDER. TUESDAY, APRIL 15TH, THE CITY IS OFFERING OFFERING EXTENDED HOURS THIS THURSDAY, MARCH 27TH, FROM 5 P.M. TO 7 P.M. MARCH 29TH FROM 9 A.M. TO NOON. AND THEN WEDNESDAY, APRIL 2ND FROM 5 P.M. TO 7 P.M. AND THEN SATURDAY, APRIL 5TH FROM 9 A.M. TO NOON. SO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ASSISTANCE IF RESIDENTS NEED THOSE. THE 2025 SWIMMING POOL SEASON IS COMING UPON US, AND POOL PASSES ARE AVAILABLE FOR A PURCHASE AT A 15% DISCOUNT. NOW THROUGH APRIL 30TH. POOL PASSES MAY BE PURCHASED ONLINE VIA REC DESK OR IN PERSON AT THE CITY'S MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS CENTER AT 455 NORTH MAPLE STREET. DURING THE FOLLOWING HOURS, MONDAY, WEDNESDAYS AND THURSDAYS, 10 A.M. TO 2 P.M. AND THE POOL OPENS FOR THE SEASON ON SATURDAY, MAY 25TH. SO HERE WE GO TWO TWO MONTHS FROM TOMORROW BE COMING UPON US. SO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE DISCOUNT. RAIN BARREL DISTRIBUTION EVENT. THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE'S RAIN BARREL SALE IS NOW OPEN. THANKS TO RAIN WATER SOLUTIONS, THE 50 GALLON BARRELS ARE AVAILABLE AT A DISCOUNTED PRICE OF $78. RAIN BARRELS MUST BE PRE-PURCHASED ONLINE BY APRIL 16TH AND DISTRIBUTION WILL BE ON SATURDAY, APRIL 26TH FROM 9 TO 11 A.M. AT THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION FACILITY FOR 55 NORTH MAPLE STREET. THIS HAS BEEN VERY POPULAR, SO IF PEOPLE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A DISCOUNTED PRICE AND A RAIN BARREL. THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY AND YOU CAN PRE-PURCHASE THOSE ONLINE. UPTOWN EGG HUNT AND THAT YOU KNOW A LOT OF A LOT OF STUFF COMING UP RIGHT NOW. SATURDAY, APRIL 5TH FROM 10 A.M. TO 5 P.M.

THE MAIN STREET, MARYSVILLE, IS PARTNERING WITH THE LIBRARY TO BRING YOU AN ALL DAY EGG HUNT.

JOIN THE FUN, EXPLORE UPTOWN AND COLLECT HIDDEN EGGS FILLED WITH CANDY, COUPONS, FREEBIES, AND PRIZES. START AT THE LIBRARY AND MEET THE EASTER BUNNY FROM 10 A.M. TO NOON. GRAB YOUR EGG EXPLORATION MAP AT THE MAIN STREET MARYSVILLE TENT AT SIXTH AND MAIN FROM 10 A.M. TO 5 P.M.

AND FIND 1000 HIDDEN EGGS THROUGHOUT UPTOWN, INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF PARTICIPATING BUSINESSES, AND RETURN THE EMPTY EGGS TO THE MAIN STREET TENT FOR EXTRA TREATS. SO A NEAT ACTIVITY COMING UP. SATURDAY, APRIL 5TH. ANOTHER REALLY COOL EVENT IS THE MAIN STREET. MARYSVILLE AND THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE ARE PRESENTING THE 2025 UPTOWN TRAFFIC BOX ART PROJECT. WE'RE INVITING ARTISTS OF ALL AGES AND SKILLS SKILL LEVELS TO PARTICIPATE. THE THEME OF THE

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WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE ALL THE APPLICATIONS WE GET AND SUBMISSIONS. PERFECT. THANK YOU.

THE UPTOWN FACADE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, VERY POPULAR, OFFERS GRANTS OF UP TO 70,000 TO HELP YOU RESTORE AND RENOVATE WINDOWS, DOORS, FACADES AND MORE. THE COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USE STRUCTURES WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF UPTOWN COMMERCIAL ZONING, DISTRICT OR TARGET AREA ARE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING. BUILDINGS USED SOLELY FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE. THE APPLICATION DUE DATE IS APRIL 7TH, 2025, AND GRANT AWARDS WILL BE ANNOUNCED ON APRIL 11TH. SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT THERE, AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF BUSINESSES TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT GRANT OPPORTUNITY. LET'S SEE. SHRED, RECYCLE AND DONATION DAY.

SATURDAY, APRIL 26TH, 9 A.M. TO NOON. THE FREE EVENT IS OPEN TO RESIDENTS AND NONRESIDENTS PERSONNEL. PERSONAL DOCUMENTS WILL BE SECURELY TRANSPORTED BY FILE 13 AND SHREDDED AT UCO INDUSTRIES. ALL ELECTRONICS THAT PLUG INTO THE WALL OR TAKE BATTERIES WILL BE ACCEPTED, INCLUDING COMPUTERS, CAMERAS, SERVERS, VCRS, CELL PHONES, KEYBOARDS, BATTERY BACKUP SYSTEMS, SCANNERS, PRINTERS AND FAX MACHINES. CRT AND TUBE STYLE MONITORS AND TVS ARE NOT ACCEPTED. THOSE TWO ITEMS, SECOND CHANCES THRIFT STORE WILL ACCEPT UP TO SIX BAGS OR BOXES OF ITEMS IN LIKE NEW OR GIFTABLE CONDITION, INCLUDING CLOTHES, SHOES, ACCESSORIES, JEWELRY, SMALL APPLIANCES, HOUSEWARES, KITCHEN ITEMS, HOME DECOR, TOYS AND GAMES, OVERSIZE ITEMS AND DONATIONS SHOULD BE TAKEN TO UCO INDUSTRIES DONATION CENTER AT 16900 SQUARE DRIVE. A LOT OF ACTIVITIES, A LOT OF STUFF. YOU CAN PICK UP A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE AND WITHOUT ANYTHING FURTHER, I'LL SHIFT TO JEREMY ON THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS.

YEAH. THANK YOU TERRY. CITY STREET CREWS CONTINUE TO REPAIR POTHOLES AND REPLACE CATCH BASINS AHEAD OF THIS YEAR'S PAVING PROGRAM. AND A CONTRACTOR WILL BE PERFORMING POST WINTER TRASH REMOVAL ALONG US 33 THIS WEEK. BUT IT SHOULD BE TOMORROW. WEATHER DEPENDENT. CITY PARKS CREWS CONTINUE TO TOP DRESS THE GRAVEL MCIVER WOODS TRAIL AND ARE BEGINNING TO PERFORM MINOR WORK AT SCOTT FAMILY PARK, INCLUDING GRADING, PARKING LOTS, TRAILS IN IN THE ENTRANCE AND ALSO CREATING A SAND ENTRANCE INTO THE POND FOR A KAYAK ENTRANCE. CITY WATER CREWS HAVE COMPLETED THE WATER MAIN WORK ON PARKWAY DRIVE AND GRAND AVENUE. CREWS WILL NOW BEGIN INSTALLING THE INDIVIDUAL WATER SERVICES TO EACH RESIDENCE AND THEN FINALLY ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, CREWS HAVE PERFORMED GENERAL MAINTENANCE AND INSPECTIONS ON THE SYSTEM AND WILL BE GIVING A TOUR OF THE WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY TO A LOCAL BOY SCOUT TROOP. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT, SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KYLE FOR SOME UPDATES ON CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. THANKS, GENTLEMEN.

JUST A COUPLE UPDATES. THE STATE ROUTE 31 PHASE THREE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT AND CONTRACTOR PLANS TO RETURN THE WEEK OF APRIL 7TH TO WRAP UP THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WORK AT THE ELLWOOD AVENUE INTERSECTION. OTHER PUNCH LIST ITEMS REMAIN, AND THOSE WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF LATER THIS SPRING. THE CHESTNUT WATER LINE REPLACEMENT PROJECT WORK HAS STARTED ON THE WATER LINE REPLACEMENT. JUST TO NOTE, CHESTNUT STREET WILL BE CLOSED DURING THE WORKING HOURS BETWEEN SIXTH AND SEVENTH STREET, AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETE BY MID TO LATE APRIL. THOSE ARE ALL OF OUR UPDATES. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OUR ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT. UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ADMINISTRATION. OH I HAVE ONE QUESTION. LAST YEAR ON WE FINISHED UP ELLWOOD AVENUE AND THEN INCLUDED SOME STREET

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BUT I'LL TRY TO GET YOU AN UPDATE HERE SHORTLY. I THINK ONE GOT HIT AND GOT REMOVED AND HOPEFULLY THAT'S STILL COVERED UNDER THE WARRANTY. OKAY. YEP. YEP. ONE MAYBE COMMENT TO MR. HOYT. I KNOW, SURPRISE. I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM A RESIDENT LAST WEEK REGARDING WEAVER ROAD BETWEEN REALLY THE AIRPORT AND ADINA POINT. THAT STRETCH. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IMPROVING CONNECTIVITY, WALKABILITY, YOU KNOW, CONNECTING THE SOUTH SIDE TO THE TO THE TO THE UPTOWN MARYSVILLE. BUT PART OF PART OF HIS CONCERN WAS JUST THE, THE PATCHWORK THAT WAS RECENTLY DONE. THAT'S A MAIN ARTERY GOING INTO IT, INTO OUR UPTOWN IS CONCERNED ABOUT, I'LL SAY, QUALITY OF THE ROAD OF THE ROADWAY, I GUESS. BUT ANOTHER CONCERN WAS JUST THE AMOUNT OF.

MEDIAN BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THE EDGE LINE AND THE ACTUAL, I GUESS, GRASS. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITY. AS WE LOOK FORWARD, I KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, BUT MAYBE AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH THE FALL AND BUDGETING FOR NEXT YEAR, WE CAN LOOK AT MAYBE WIDENING THAT. I DID EXPRESS THE FACT THAT THE PORT AUTHORITY OR THE AIRPORT OWNS MUCH OF THAT, AND WE WOULD NEED TO GET AN EASEMENT, WHICH SOMETIMES IS EASIER SAID THAN DONE, BUT NONETHELESS, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONCERN WAS ADDRESSED PUBLICLY.

IN DUE DILIGENCE, WE CAN, WE CAN. YEAH. IF YOU DON'T MIND FORWARDING ME THAT EMAIL, I CAN I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY WORK THAT MAYBE WE HAVE DONE OUT THERE. I KNOW THAT'S IN THAT WEIRD AREA WHERE WEAVER COULD BE COUNTY MAINTENANCE OR OR CITY MAINTENANCE, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO. AND I KNOW, AT LEAST FROM A PATH PERSPECTIVE, WE HAD ALWAYS TARGETED, YOU KNOW, THE WEST SIDE OF THE AIRPORT PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME PLANS FOR FUTURE EXPANSION, WHERE IF WE PUT A PATH RIGHT ALONG WEAVER ROAD THAT KIND OF THWARTS, THWARTS THAT, AND THEY'D BE LESS WILLING TO SELL US AN EASEMENT.

SO I KNOW KYLE CAN SPEAK MORE TO THE DETAIL, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IT ISN'T AS EASY AS GETTING AN APPRAISAL, CUTTING A CHECK. THERE'S A HANDFUL OF HOOPS THAT WE HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT, OR TO BE ABLE TO OBTAIN THAT EASEMENT. SO IF YOU FORWARD THAT TO ME, I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT TOMORROW AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK. GOOD ENOUGH. THANKS. YEAH. AND I CAN ADD REAL QUICK JUST ON THE PAVEMENT CONDITION OF WEAVER ROAD. THAT THAT ROAD DID JUST MISS THE CUT THIS YEAR. SO WE ANTICIPATE SOME WORK BEING DONE NEXT YEAR ON THAT. GOOD DEAL.

THANKS, KYLE. ANYBODY ELSE? THE ONLY THE ONLY OTHER ADDITIONAL ADD IS WITH MISTER COUNCILMAN RAMSEY'S COMMENT ABOUT THE TREES. I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I HAD DISCUSSED. COULD WE WHEN YOU'RE COMING IN ON NORTH MAIN, COMING INTO TOWN BECAUSE OF THE STREET, LAWNS ARE SO NARROW BECAUSE ADDING BIGGER STREET LAWNS WOULD HAVE, WOULD HAVE COST THE CITY MONEY. PAYING FOR EASEMENTS TO THOSE PROPERTIES. SO THE TREES ARE NEVER TRULY GOING TO GROW, BECAUSE THE TREES THAT WERE PLACED THERE WERE ONLY GOING TO FIT WITHIN THE BOUNDARY OF THE SPACE PROVIDED. SO I ASKED IF THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD WORK AN AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND PLANT TREES ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK THAT WE COULD MAINTAIN. THAT WOULD GIVE US A TREE CANOPY 20, 30 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. YOU KNOW, AS THAT PART OF TOWN DEVELOPS, IT WOULD GIVE US A NICER CANOPY. I JUST WANTED TO JUST JUST THAT STILL, IF THAT'S STILL A POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD DO, THEN, YOU KNOW. YES. IT'S MORE LEGWORK. YES, IT'S COMMUNICATING WITH THE DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS. BUT IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. ESPECIALLY, LIKE, ON THE FAIRGROUNDS SIDE. WELL, I KNOW THERE'S POWER LINES ON ON THAT SIDE, BUT IF THERE WAS A WAY THAT WE COULD WORK WITH SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO GET LARGER TREES ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A LARGER CANOPY? YEAH. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, DO YOU MEAN NORTH MAPLE STREET, NOT NORTH MAIN? NO. YEAH. OH, YEAH. NORTH MAPLE. WHERE WHERE WHERE WE JUST IMPROVED THE ROAD. YEAH. OKAY. I GOT YOU. YEAH. ALL THE WAY UP. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S.

I MEAN, I WISH WE HAD MORE FUNDING TO PAY FOR A LARGER STREET. LAWNS. WE CAN HAVE

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YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD PLANT MORE TREES ON THE OTHER SIDE. AND THEN THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OF WAYS AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO THAT'S ALL. ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, THANK YOU. CLERK OF

[PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT]

GOOD EVENING. WE WILL HAVE TWO ITEMS. THE FIRST ITEM WAS A REQUEST TO ADD THE TERMINOLOGY OR THE USE FOR BIOMEDICAL WASTE STERILIZATION FACILITY. AUTOCLAVING ONLY AS A CONDITIONAL USE. SO WE HEARD THAT AT FIRST READING LAST COUNCIL MEETING. AND IT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT FOR SECOND READING. THAT ITEM WAS APPROVED. SEVEN. YES. ZERO. NO. AND THE NEXT ITEM WE HAD FOR PLANNING COMMISSION IS ON THE AGENDA FOR FIRST READING TONIGHT. THIS IS FOR MARYSVILLE NORTH. SO WE HAD AN APPLICATION COME THROUGH FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

WHICH FOLLOWED THE KIND OF USED FOR THE BASIS OF DESIGN FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT FOLLOWED OUR MARYSVILLE NORTH MASTER PLAN. THAT THE CITY'S CONSULTANT AND STAFF PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AT WORK SESSION IN AUGUST. I THINK WE HAD THE SPECIAL MEETING. IT WAS LIKE MIDDLE OF AUGUST LAST YEAR. SO THE APPLICANT USED THAT AS THE BASIS OF DESIGN FOR THEIR APPLICATION AND FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND I THINK IN THE MEANTIME, DURING THAT PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS, HE ALSO HAD SOME DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO SOME OF YOU ARE PROBABLY A LITTLE FAMILIAR WITH THAT APPLICATION. BUT WE WILL SEE THAT THIS EVENING FOR FIRST READING. AND HE WILL GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THAT AS WELL. THAT APPLICATION AT PLANNING COMMISSION WAS APPROVED. SEVEN.

YES. ZERO. NO. THERE WERE A FEW CONDITIONS THAT THE APPLICANT HAD BROUGHT FORWARD THAT PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED. AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT THIS EVENING WITH YOU AS WELL. BUT JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS. THERE WERE A COUPLE USES THAT WERE MOVED TO CONDITIONAL RATHER THAN PERMITTED, WHICH WAS SENIOR LIVING, INDEPENDENT LIVING AND EMERGENCY CARE FACILITIES.

SECOND FLOOR MULTIFAMILY AND SUBAREA A WAS REMOVED. AND ADDING SOME EV CHARGING STATIONS TO THAT COMMERCIAL SUBAREA AS WELL. AND THEN HE HAS A COUPLE OTHER AMENDMENTS TO THAT. HE'LL WALK THROUGH WITH THIS EVENING. BUT THAT CONCLUDES THE PLANNING COMMISSION SUMMARY FOR MARCH.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS GARBER? HEARING NONE. READY FOR DRB. OKAY. SO WE HAD A FEW

[DESIGN REVIEW BOARD REPORT]

THE FIRST ONE WAS AT 601 WEST THIRD STREET IN THE VILLAGE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. THE NEXT ONE WAS AT 1311 MIAMI DRIVE IN THE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. WE ALSO HAD ANOTHER APPLICATION AT 172 BURGER STREET IN SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND 1320 OAK O'CONNELL COURT. IN SRB AS WELL. AND THE LAST ONE WAS 564 RESTORATION DRIVE, ALSO IN SRB. SO AS I SAID, THOSE WERE ALL APPROVED AT DESIGN REVIEW BOARD FOR MARCH. AND THEN THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA WAS THE REQUEST FOR DEMOLITION OF THE HOME TOWN AUTO BUILDING. SO PRIOR TO THAT MEETING, STARTING FOR DESIGN REVIEW, BOARD STAFF TOOK THE DRB MEMBERS ON A TOUR, OPENED UP THE BUILDING, ALLOWED THEM TO GO IN TO SEE THAT FACILITY KIND OF FIRSTHAND SO THEY COULD SEE THE CONDITION OF THE STRUCTURE. AS WELL. STAFF PRESENTED THE STRUCTURAL REPORT THAT WE HAD PREPARED THROUGH A CONSULTANT PRIOR TO DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. THAT WAS A DISCUSSION ITEM THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE BOARD AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING. SO THAT REQUEST FOR DEMOLITION WAS APPROVED. SIX. YES. ZERO. NO. AND THAT IS ALL WE HAD AT DESIGN REVIEW BOARD FOR MARCH. I'LL

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COUNCILMAN KRAMER. YEAH. I'M PLEASED THAT YOU GOT A LOT OF APPLICATIONS FOR THAT, GRANT.

AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD GIVE US SORT OF A GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. WE HAD A LOT OF WINDOW REPLACEMENTS. SO THERE WERE THREE THAT DID WINDOW REPLACEMENTS. FRONT PORCH WAS ALSO ONE OF THE REPLACEMENT REQUESTS. IT WAS KIND OF COMING OFF FAILING FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. IT WAS DETACHING FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. AND THEN WE HAD A GARAGE ROOF REPLACEMENT. FOR THE OTHER APPLICATION. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. YEAH. AND ALL OF ALL OF THOSE ARE 50% MATCH. CORRECT? YEAH. OKAY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE UP TO THE MAXIMUM OF 3500. YEAH. YES. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. I ALL I WANT TO SAY IS JUST FOR CLARITY, IS THAT IT'S GOOD THAT YOU ALLOW DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEMBERS TO WALK THROUGH. WALK THROUGH. WHEN I WAS A PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER, I ACTUALLY JEREMY WALKED US THROUGH THE WOODS OVER ON INNOVATION PARKWAY. BECAUSE THERE WAS TALKS ABOUT LEVELING THAT, AND I WAS THOUGHT IT WAS VERY CONCERNING. AND WE WALKED THROUGH THAT AND DID A DESIGN REVIEW. BOARD MEMBERS AT THAT TIME HAD CONCERNS THAT IF IT WAS ANOTHER APPLICANT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SHOW PROOF THAT THE BUILDING WAS IN DETERIORATION TO BE LEVELED. SO CITY STAFF THEN WENT BACK, AND THEN THEY WALKED THEM THROUGH THE BUILDING AND SHOWED THE DETERIORATION, ESPECIALLY IN THE BASEMENT OF THE STRUCTURE WHERE TOWN RUN RUNS UNDERNEATH IT. SO THAT IS HOW THE BOARD STATED THAT THAT BUILDING SHOULD BE LEVELED BECAUSE OF THE DETERIORATING DETERIORATION OF THE BOTTOM OF THE BUILDING ITSELF. IS, IS THAT FAIR TO. YEAH, I MEAN THAT IN ADDITION. SO FROM THEIR THEIR TOUR OF THE SITE, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL REPORTS WE RECEIVED THAT THOSE WERE ALL DISCUSSION ITEMS AT THAT MEETING. I, I JUST WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO, I MEAN, EVERYBODY, BUT ESPECIALLY THE BOARD TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ALL FOLLOWING BY THE SAME PROCEDURE AS WE WOULD HAVE FOR ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO DO BUSINESS IN IN THE CITY. SO THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT. SO THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THIS IS A PART OF THE

[HEARING OF CITIZENS]

COMMEND YOU ON THE WORK YOU'RE DOING FOR THE LEVY. EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM KNOWS HOW VALUABLE AND

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AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CHARTER REVIEW BOARD IS IN SESSION NOW AND HAS BEEN FOR A LITTLE BIT, BUT. YOU. PEOPLE, RATHER THAN GUYS ON CITY COUNCIL CAN MAKE YOU'RE WELL AWARE YOU CAN MAKE THOSE CHANGES YOURSELF. ALSO AT DIFFERENT POINTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. AND THE LAST THING THAT I HAD WAS A FEW MEETINGS AGO. DON, DO YOU PREFER DON OR DONALD? IT'S WHATEVER YOU YOU PREFER. OKAY. YOU HAD MENTIONED WITH THE PAVING PROJECTS BEING MORE EXPENSIVE THIS YEAR THAN, WELL, IN CURRENT YEARS THAN IN PAST. BECAUSE OF INFLATION, PETROLEUM'S MORE EXPENSIVE, ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND THAT WE'RE USING SOME OF THE GROWTH THAT'S GOING ON NOW TO FUND THOSE TYPE OF ISSUES. THAT IS THE TEXTBOOK DEFINITION OF A PONZI SCHEME, WHICH THEY'RE ILLEGAL FOR A REASON, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE HAVING TO USE FUTURE RESOURCES AND GROWTH TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE. I MEAN, THE BIG YOU, NOT YOU PERSONALLY, THAT CAUSES THAT'S A PROBLEM. IT'S ILLEGAL BECAUSE IT CAN'T SUSTAIN ITSELF. SO THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO AS A CITY IS WHETHER THAT'S REDUCE SPENDING, REDUCE WHATEVER TYPES OF THINGS THOSE ARE. BUT WE CAN'T RELY AND I'M NOT AGAINST GROWTH EITHER. IS THE GUY AGAINST GROWTH.

THAT'S NOT ME. FOR SMART GROWTH. BUT IT'S A MATTER OF USING THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE THE WAY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE GOING. THE CITY, THE SCHOOLS JUST CAME. AND I KNOW TIPS ARE A BAD YOU KNOW, THEY KIND OF HAVE A BAD RAP NOW OR WHATNOT, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY. SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR LISTENING. I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? HEARING NONE.

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ADMINISTRATION. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER. ANYTHING FURTHER? NO. NO. UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL. MISTER? YEAH, OKAY. I'LL LET MISS KRAMER GO FIRST. ONE CLARIFICATION. WE OFTEN TALK COLLECTIVELY OF MARYSVILLE SOUTHEAST, AND WE HAVE THE MARYSVILLE SOUTH AND THE MARYSVILLE EAST. IN THE AGREEMENT, WE HAVE A RESERVED WATER CAPACITY SPECIFICALLY FOR MARYSVILLE EAST, BUT NOT FOR MARYSVILLE SOUTH. COULD YOU JUST COMMENT BRIEFLY ON WHAT? YEAH, IT IS ON. YEAH. BRIEFLY ON WHAT THAT WATER USAGE AND CAPACITY LOOKS LIKE FOR THE SOUTH PORTION. DICK ROGGENKAMP THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, 8000 WALTON PARKWAY, NEW ALBANY, OHIO, 43054. MISS KRAMER, THAT YOU'RE CORRECT. WE HAVE THE CAPACITY RESERVATION FOR THE EAST. FOR THE. WE'VE REFERRED TO AS THE SOUTH. YOU'LL RECALL THAT THAT IS A FAIRLY LANDLOCKED PARCEL THAT WE'RE BUILDING A BRIDGE OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO IT. BUT EVEN WITH THAT, AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, WE SEE THAT AS A SINGLE USER OR LARGE USER PARCEL. AND IT DIDN'T SEEM RIGHT TO BE GUESSING AS TO WHAT THAT WATER NEED THERE MIGHT BE. THAT THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE BOTH FELT BOTH OURSELVES AND THE CITY FELT THAT WOULD BE BEST ADDRESSED. WHEN WE HAVE A SPECIFIC USER IN MIND. IS THAT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR STATEMENTS OR ANYTHING YOU WANT TO MAKE BEFORE I PASS THE TORCH? MR. GARDNER? I WOULD JUST MAKE A MOTION. OKAY.

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SO THIS IS JUST 10% OF THAT FOR WHAT WILL BE A MAJOR PART OF MARYSVILLE'S ECONOMIC FUTURE.

NOW, INDUSTRY HAS REACTED TO SCARCITY THAT YOU HAVE SEEN DEVELOP IN CERTAIN COMMUNITIES, NOT NECESSARILY HERE. AND CONSERVATION, REUSE THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S BEING DEPLOYED NOW TO MANAGE WATER USE. THAT'S WHAT REALLY GAVE US THE CONFIDENCE TO SAY, OKAY, FOR THIS MUCH ACREAGE, WHAT WOULD WORK. AND IN WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF AND DOING CRITICAL ANALYSIS OF CAPACITY TODAY, EXCESS CAPACITY TODAY, BUT ALSO TAKING INTO ACCOUNT GROWTH AND YOUR WATER MASTER PLAN, WE THINK THAT IT IS. IT'S ENOUGH FOR US, BUT WE THINK IT'S ALSO DOING RIGHT BY THE COMMUNITY. THE OH GO AHEAD. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY A POINT THAT SCOTT MADE WHEN HE SAID THE CAPACITY THAT WE'RE GIVING TO MARYSVILLE EAST AND WE'RE NOT GIVING ANY CAPACITY TO ANYONE. EVERY USER PAYS FOR THAT CAPACITY IN THE CAPACITY FEE WHEN THEY HOOK UP TO OUR UTILITIES. SO JUST CLARIFY. JUST TO CLARIFY, WE'RE NOT GIVING CAPACITY TO ANYONE.

WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT WE HAVE THE CAPACITY. IT EXISTS RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE LOTS OF UNUSED CAPACITY. AND THIS IS ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE PLANNING. THE YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT PIGGYBACK ON WHAT'S BEING SAID TO, TO SOME TO SOME EXTENT. BUT I THINK THOUGH AS A COUNCIL FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT USES HIGH WATER, HIGH VOLUMES OF WATER, I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT AS NOT ONLY A CITY STANDPOINT OF WHAT HOW MANY DO WE ALLOW, BUT ALSO FROM A COUNTY STANDPOINT OF WHAT, WHAT WE ALLOW TO USE. BECAUSE, AS WE KNOW, MARYSVILLE DOES PROVIDE WATER THROUGH THE WHOLE ENTIRE THROUGH THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNTY. I MEAN, COSTCO AND SO FORTH. SO, YOU KNOW, THE WATER LINES ARE THERE. AND I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A

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MR. BURGER? YES. MR. HUNTER? YES. MR. REEMS. YES. MISS KRAMER? NO. MR. BORDNER. YES.

FIVE. YES. LEGISLATION PASSES. ORDINANCE B, THIRD READING AND A VOTE TO DECLARE THE MARYSVILLE

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COUNCIL. YES. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON MAKING A COMMENT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THIS LEGISLATION IS RELATIVE TO THE NEW COMMUNITY AUTHORITY FOR MARYSVILLE SOUTHEAST. AND AFTER THE VOTE TODAY, IF THIS NCAA IS TO GO FORWARD, WE AS A COUNCIL WILL HAVE 40, 40 DAYS, 40 DAYS TO APPOINT MEMBERS OF OUR NEW COMMUNITY AUTHORITY KIND OF GOVERNING BOARD. RIGHT. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS FROM DAY ONE LAST MAY, THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A BOARD OF SEVEN MEMBERS. AND I'M I'M LOOKING AT MR. ROGGENKAMP IN THE AUDIENCE. IF YOU SHAKE YOUR HEAD. YES, WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE. IF I SAY SOMETHING WRONG, SHAKE IT TO THE LEFT. BUT I IF I RECALL, THERE'S THREE MEMBERS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE, AND THEN THERE'S THREE MEMBERS FROM WHAT I'LL REFER TO AS THE CITY SIDE, WHETHER THAT'S OR FOUR.

I'M SORRY I SAID. YEAH, I'M. I'M WORKING IT, MISS PHILLIPS. I'M WORKING IT. SO. WHAT WE WILL BE DOING, AND I HATE TO PUT MISS MAIN ON. BROADCAST. BUT I BELIEVE WE WILL HAVE SOME SORT OF APPOINTMENT PROCESS OR COMMUNICATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO POTENTIALLY. EXPRESS INTEREST IN SUPPORTING THIS. BOARD. RIGHT. AND WE'LL HAVE UNTIL, I GUESS, THE END OF APRIL, MR. ASLLANI, TO SET OR TO INTERVIEW, SELECT AND GET THE WHAT I'LL REFER TO AS THE CITY REPRESENTATION ON MARYSVILLE. SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY AUTHORITY CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH. I THINK THE LAST MEETING WHERE YOU COULD APPOINT WITHIN THE 40 DAYS WOULD BE THE MAY WORK SESSION. MAY WORK SESSION, AND WE CAN TALK. WE CAN. I'VE MET WITH MR. KIRBY OR WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION AND ALSO TARA TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS AND, AND I WOULD I WOULD SUGGEST MAYBE WE CAN GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT I WOULD PROBABLY BE IT'S PROBABLY PREMATURE RIGHT NOW UNTIL THE MATTER IS VOTED ON. BUT WE DID TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS AND WE CAN AND DISCUSS THAT. I THINK ONCE THE LEGISLATION PASSES. OKAY. THEN I'LL WAIT UNTIL THE VOTE IS SOLIDIFIED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE DISCUSSION. WOULD YOU DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT? I'LL HAVE TO VOTE FIRST. OKAY. SO THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO SAY. AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME. WHEN, WHEN COUNCILMAN BORDNER SAYS THAT IT'S COUNCIL'S DECISION. IT WOULD. I WOULD IF THE LEGISLATION PASSES, COUNCILMAN HUNTER AND MYSELF WILL THEN DESIGNATE THEM TO GO THROUGH AND FOR THE INTERVIEW PROCESS AND MAKE IT HAPPEN INSTEAD OF US TO DOING IT. SO WE WOULD JUST USE THE PROCESS AND THE RULES OF COUNCIL THAT SETS FORTH THE APPOINTMENT OF BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS AND A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION IS, IS THE ONE WHO KIND OF REVIEWS THE RESUMES WITH THE PRESIDENT AND VICE

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OKAY. MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. ROLL CALL. MR. BURPEE. YES. MR. BURGER? YES. MR. HUNTER? YES. MR. REMES. YES. MISS KRAMER? YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. WOLF.

YES. SEVEN. YES. LEGISLATION PASSES. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM FROM ANYBODY? SO? SO NOW THE CLOCK IS TICKING, RIGHT? AND I DON'T KNOW, MR. BURGER, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO START OFF START THE CONFERENCE DISCUSSION HERE? YEAH. SO MAKE SURE YOUR MICROPHONE IS TURNED ON. IT IS THAT GREEN LIGHT. SO? SO YOU WERE RIGHT, MR. PORTER. SO YOU HAVE. THERE ARE SEVEN MEMBERS. COUNCIL APPOINTS THREE CITIZENS AND ALSO A REPRESENTATIVE FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENT. SO RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE'RE FOCUSED ON THE THREE CITIZENS. AND TARA AND MR. KIRBY AND I HAVE MET AND KIND OF TALKED THROUGH THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT. AND I THINK WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF GOT THE BALL ROLLING. WITH WHO? THE TWO I WILL. WELL, YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DISCUSS WHO YOU WANT TO COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES, REPRESENTATIVES TO BE TO REVIEW THE RESUMES. AND WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT COULD BE. I KNOW THAT I BROUGHT IT UP WITH KYLE AND JEREMY, AND I BELIEVE KYLE IS OKAY WITH BEING THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT FOR THE CITY. SO HAVING SAID THAT, I'LL, I'LL ASK TARA TO JUMP IN AND ADD ANYTHING YOU MIGHT WANT TO. KNOW. I THINK OUR LAW DIRECTOR HIT IT ON THE HEAD. SO ESSENTIALLY, WE'LL WORK WITH THAT SELECTION TEAM TO DEVELOP THE DUTIES AND QUALIFICATIONS THAT YOU SEE FIT FOR TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD. WE'LL DO AN ADVERTISEMENT OF SOME SORTS FOR LETTERS OF INTEREST TO SERVE ON THAT BOARD. AND AS THEY COME IN, CLERK MCKENZIE WILL PROVIDE THOSE TO THE SELECTION TEAM. AT SOME POINT, WE'LL DO INTERVIEWS AND ESSENTIALLY GET THAT READY FOR YOU TO APPOINT BY THAT MAY WORK SESSION, IF NOT SOONER. PROBABLY BE A GOOD IDEA TO SHOOT FOR THE SECOND MEETING IN APRIL AND MAKE THE APPOINTMENTS, BUT FOR SOME REASON YOU'RE NOT READY. THEN YOU DO HAVE UNTIL THE WORK SESSION THAT WHEN YOU SAY TO MAKE THE APPOINTMENT, ARE YOU SAYING FOR COUNCIL TO APPOINT THE TWO PEOPLE BY THAT TIME? YES. YES. YEAH. SO DO WE NEED TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THE BASIS OF COUNCIL TO HAVE MR. KIRBY AND MR. GARDNER SERVE OR. NO. I THINK JUST YOU COULD JUST AS THE AS THE REPRESENTATIVES. NO, THAT'S. NO, THAT'S NOT NECESSARY. JUST AS LONG AS THERE'S NO OBJECTION FROM YOU OR MR. HUNTER. I MEAN, YOU MIGHT WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD THAT YOU'RE BOTH IN AGREEMENT THAT THAT MR. BOEHNER AND MR. KIRBY SHOULD BE THE REPRESENTATIVES. AND YOU'RE BOTH COMFORTABLE. ARE YOU COMFORTABLE? I WAS GOING TO PUBLICLY MAKE A REQUEST TO YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, TO ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE OR. YEAH, PARTICIPATE IN THE SELECTION PROCESS. GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE

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SERVING. AND, MR. KIRBY, YOU'RE COMFORTABLE SERVING, AND I'M OKAY. ARE YOU OKAY? I'M OKAY.

I'VE HEARD AT VARIOUS POINTS IN TIME, BOTH OF YOU SPEAK ABOUT THIS, AND YOU ARE CERTAINLY CONSIDERING IT AS A VERY IMPORTANT MATTER. AND I I'VE HEARD I THINK, HANK, YOU HAD MENTIONED TO ME IN A PRIVATE CONVERSATION OR IT'S NOT PRIVATE, BUT A CONVERSATION THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND YOU WANT TO SEE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD. SO, YEAH, I HAVE CONFIDENCE. AND YOU'VE GIVEN ME ASSURANCE FROM JUST YOUR YOUR COMMENTS ALREADY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE REALLY BEST EQUIPPED. AND I GUESS, MR. PRESIDENT, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE OR IS IT INAPPROPRIATE FOR ME TO ASK TO POTENTIALLY SEE THE I'LL REFER TO IT AS JOB DESCRIPTION OR COMPETENCY OUTLINED FROM OUR OUR HR PRIOR TO THE COMMUNICATION BEING GOING OR GOING OUT TO THE PUBLIC JUST TO ENSURE THAT THOSE QUALIFICATIONS ARE ALIGNED WITH THE ACTUAL INTENT OF THE BOARD MEMBERS RESPONSIBILITY. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM. I THINK THAT THE TWO OF YOU CAN GET WITH H.R. AND HELP PUT TOGETHER THE DESCRIPTION THAT YOU WANT PUBLISHED. YEAH. IS ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT, MISS MAINE? YEAH.

ESSENTIALLY, IT FOLLOWS YOUR RULES OF COUNCIL. SO IT'S THOSE DUTIES AND QUALIFICATIONS. SO WE WOULD DEFINITELY BECAUSE THIS IS A NEWER BOARD, WE WOULD WORK OBVIOUSLY WITH OUR CITY STAFF MEMBER WHO'S GOING TO BE THAT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT, BUT ALSO THE SELECTION COMMITTEE TO ESTABLISH THAT. NOT NOT TO SAY THAT COULDN'T BE CHANGED IN THE FUTURE, BUT SINCE IT'S A NEW BOARD, IT'S DEFINITELY APPROPRIATE. OKAY, MAYBE WE CAN JUST SET SOMETHING UP ONE EVENING THIS WEEK OR NEXT. WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOUR SCHEDULE. WE CAN GET THAT SET U.

AND I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS. I MEAN, MR. KIRBY HAS SERVED ON COUNCIL WITH ALWAYS A STEADY, STEADY HAND, AND I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT HE WILL. WHAT HE HAS DONE WAS ALWAYS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY OF MADISON. HE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. MR. BORDNER, AS A NEWER COUNCIL MEMBER, HAS PROVEN TO NOT ONLY TO US ON COUNCIL ADMINISTRATION, BUT ALSO THE COMMUNITY THAT HE IS COMPETENT AND IN HIS ROLE, AND HE HAS RISEN TO THE ABILITY TO SERVE AS CHAIRMAN. SO FINANCE COMMITTEE. SO, YOU KNOW, I CONGRATULATE YOU ON THAT ONE. AND I THINK THAT THERE IS NO ISSUE ON MY END FOR YOU TO WORK WITH MR. KIRBY AND CITY AND ADMINISTRATION TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST PEOPLE MOVING FORWARD. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. GO AHEAD. THE NCA IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH. THIS IS A FIRST ONE FOR US TO GET INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY. AND WHEN IT RAINS, IT POURS BECAUSE PRETTY SOON WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER ONE FOR MARYSVILLE EAST. AND MAYBE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, WE HAVE A MARYSVILLE NORTH AND EACH ONE OF THOSE THREE. AND THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE. WELL, FIRST OFF, WE DO HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE FOR. FOR BOARDS. YEAH. WE GO OUT INTO THE PUBLIC FIRST. YEAH. BECAUSE IT'S AND THE REASON THAT. I INVITED MR. BORDNER BECAUSE THIS IS BOARD TWO THAT HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR. AND WE CAN BE ASSURED THAT WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, WHEN WE DO THE RESETTING OF THE BOARDS, THAT YOUR PROPERTY WILL BE IN HIS UNDER HIS SUPERVISION AS A WARD. I'M AN AT LARGE, SO I HANDLE THE WHOLE CITY. SO THIS WAY WE HAVE A BOARD AND WE HAVE A AT LARGE.

THE SAME THING WILL MOST LIKELY HAPPEN WITH MARYSVILLE EAST WITH A DIFFERENT WARD MEMBER, AND THE SAME THING WILL MOST LIKELY HAPPEN WITH MARYSVILLE NORTH AGAIN WITH A DIFFERENT WARD MEMBER. SO THAT WAY, YEAH, WE SET THE LINE OF CONTINUATION AND SOMETHING THAT WE PRESENTLY ALREADY ARE DOING WILL JUST CONTINUE ON. THE OTHER THING THAT OF COURSE WE KNOW, WHEN WE HAD A REQUEST FOR A ADDITIONAL OR REPLACEMENT COUNCIL MEMBER, WE HAD MORE THAN 20 VERY WELL QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS THAT WANTED TO TAKE ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THAT WHEN WE DO GO OUT INTO THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WITHIN THAT REGION, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS FUTURE. YEAH, AS PART OF THEIR OWN FUTURE. IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE AND YOU KNOW THAT ACROSS

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MANUFACTURING AND INNOVATION AND OVERLAY. DISTRICT. SECTION 1129. SIGNS AND THE APPENDIX. GLOSSARY OF TERMS. ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING FURTHER. COUNCIL. OKAY, FIRST OFF, I AGAIN DO WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE ZONING STAFF FOR THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE ON THIS. AND AS YOU KNOW, WE TABLED THIS THIRD READING SO THAT WE POTENTIALLY COULD HEAR FROM

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OKAY, THAT ONE IS IN TODAY'S WITH WITH THE ONE THAT WE ARE READY TO TAKE. A TAKE A VOTE ON WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED, BUT THAT ONE IS HAS ALREADY BEEN PRE-APPROVED AND 12 YEARS AGO.

SO THOSE ARE THE COUPLE OF THINGS, BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIMES WHEN PEOPLE COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, SO AND SO IS ALLOWED TO DO IT. WHY AM I NOT ALLOWED TO DO IT? AND SOME OF THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH BEING GRANDFATHERED IN. AND THOSE ARRANGEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE PRIOR TO US, ESPECIALLY IN THIS PARTICULAR LEGISLATION. BUT THE LEGISLATION ITSELF IS I REALLY AGAIN COMMEND YOU ON HOW EASY IT IS TO FOLLOW. I THINK IT'S IT IT PUTS US AT A HIGHER LEVEL OF MATURITY, IF YOU WILL, WHEN YOU DRIVE BY AND YOU SEE A. MONUMENT SIGN AND IT AND YOU HAVE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT USES OF A CERTAIN BUILDING, IF IT'S A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING, IT LOOKS VERY PROFESSIONAL. YEAH. SO I REALLY HOPE THAT COUNCIL IS WILLING TO PASS THIS TONIGHT. THE ONLY STATEMENT I WILL ADD IN ZONING STAFF, YOU CAN MAKE A CORRECT A CORRECTION IS THAT ALSO TO HANK'S POINT ABOUT CHANGING A PROPERTY. BUT ALSO IF THERE'S NO MAINTENANCE, IF THE SIGN IS NOT BEING CHANGED, THEN THE THEN THE SIGN CAN STAY. STAY. IF THERE'S NOBODY DOING ANY CHANGES TO THE POLE SIGN, THEN THE POLE SIGN CAN ALSO STILL STAY ON THE GROUND WITH THAT. YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE IT'S BEING PROPERTY'S BEING TRANSFERRED IS, YOU KNOW, IS THAT CORRECT IN STATING THAT IT HAS LESS TO DO WITH OWNERSHIP AND MORE TO DO WITH CHANGING THE ACTUAL SIGN? SO IF THE SIGN CABINET ON TOP OF THAT POLE SIGN WERE TO BE SWAPPED OUT WITH A DIFFERENT DESIGN AND DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS, THAT'S WHAT TRIGGERS THE SIGN BEING BROUGHT INTO CONFORMANCE WITH THE CURRENT CODE. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE SALE OF PROPERTY, IT'S JUST CHANGES TO A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED LEGAL NONCONFORMING SIGN. SO I WAS JUST ADDING THAT TO ALSO BECAUSE HANK'S POINT IT IS IT IS TRUE. BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO THE SIDE.

SO FOR INSTANCE, TACO BELL REMOVED THEIR SIGN AND LOWERED IT, BUT KFC STILL HAS THE BUCKET. AND UNTIL THEY DO, THEY WANT TO TAKE OFF THE BUCKET OR CHANGE THE SIGN TO MAKE IT

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COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE ON THIS BOARD, BUSINESS OWNERS WERE ON THIS BOARD. CITY STAFF WAS ON THIS BOARD. I MEAN, I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS ON PLANNING COMMISSION AND THIS WAS BEING DISCUSSED THEN. SO YEARS IN THE MAKING TO YOUR CREDIT, AND JUST HAVING THAT LONG TERM VISION AND ALSO WHAT MISS COUNCILMAN KIRBY WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE.

A 70 FOOT TOWERING SIGN. AND THIS IS WHY, IN MY OPINION, AS A PLANNER, I THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS IN THE LONG TERM IDENTITY OF OUR COMMUNITY. SINCE 1880, TRINITY CHURCH HAS STOOD IN THE STEEPLE, HAS STOOD SINCE 1883, THE COURTHOUSE HAS STOOD. THOSE TWO STRUCTURES ARE STILL THE HIGHEST, ONE OF THE HIGHEST POINTS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT YOU CAN SEE FROM ANY PART COMING INTO TOWN. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SMALL TOWN CHARM AND IDENTITY OF A SMALL TOWN THAT SYMBOLIZES A LOT OF SMALL TOWNS, IS YOUR CHURCH STEEPLES AND YOUR GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS. AND YOU KNOW, TO ME, WOULD YOU RATHER SEE DRIVING INTO TOWN 70 FOOT MARATHON SIGNS, MCDONALD'S, WHATEVER IT IS KROGER? OR WOULD YOU RATHER SEE A TREE LINE WITH CHURCH STEEPLES AND YOUR MOST ICONIC HISTORICAL STRUCTURES? I THINK THE MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS WILL SAY, I RATHER SEE HISTORICAL STRUCTURES AND THE TREE LINE THAN I WOULD HAVING ALL THESE SIGNS THAT CLUTTER THE ATMOSPHERE. WHEN YOU PUT A 70 FOOT TOWERING SIGN UP, IF THAT WOULD EVER HAPPEN. NOW YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE GREENERY. YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SEE THE TRINITY STEEPLE, YOU COULD SEE THE COURTHOUSE. AND BY THE WAY, YOU ALSO COULD SEE A MARATHON STATION SYMBOL THAT'S 70FT UP IN THE AIR THAT EVERYBODY COULD SEE AS YOU'RE COMING INTO TOWN. AND THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE IN THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. SO THAT JUST GIVES YOU MORE OF A, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, A VISIONARY TO WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITIES YOU DRIVE DOWN 33 INTO DUBLIN OR THROUGH THROUGHOUT COLUMBUS, AND YOU DON'T SEE A BIG TOWERING SIGNS ALONG THE FREEWAYS BECAUSE THOSE COMMUNITIES HAVE CHOSEN IDENTITY OVER. ADVERTISEMENT. CLUTTER IS WHAT I WOULD SAY. SO I ALSO WANT TO COMMEND EVERYBODY FOR THEIR FOR THEIR WORK. WORK ON THIS.

ANYBODY ELSE HEARING? NONE. IS THERE A MOTION TO PASS THIS LEGISLATION AS AMENDED? SO MOVED. OKAY. ROLL CALL, MR. HUNTER. YES. MR. REAMES? YES. MISS KRAMER. YES. MR. BORDNER.

YES. MR. WOLFE. YES. MR. BURBY YES. MR. BURGER YES. SEVEN. YES. LEGISLATION PASSES. ORDINANCE E

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WE'RE TRYING TO DISTRIBUTE THAT TRAFFIC MORE TO THE EAST SIDE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THEN TO THE WEST SIDE HEADING AROUND. WE HAVE TWO ENTRY POINTS INTO CAMERON MEADOWS. WE HAVE ONE ENTRY POINT, WHICH WILL BE A FULL ACCESS, NOT REALLY INTENDED TO BE A MAJOR ACCESS POINT OFF OF CAMERON MEADOW. WE HAVE TWO, WHICH ARE OUR MAIN PRIMARY ACCESS POINTS. GETTING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OFF OF FOUR. AND THEN WE HAVE THREE ACCESS POINTS TO THE SOUTH. ONE RUNS RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE APARTMENTS, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC ACCESS. WE'RE EXTENDING DAWN DRIVE, WHICH IS KIND OF YOUR RETAIL SERVICE ROAD TO THE NORTH. AND THEN WE'VE ADDED ONE OTHER STUB ROAD, WHICH I'M GOING TO WALK OVER HERE AT THE RECOMMENDATION, A STUB ROAD HERE GOING INTO COOK'S POINT AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF AND THE CITY IN ORDER TO GIVE SOME CONNECTIVITY THROUGH THERE, THAT ACCESS POINT. WE'RE REALLY HOPING THAT THAT'S NOT A RETAIL SERVICE ROAD, BECAUSE THE SOUTHERN PIECE IS MEANT TO BE RETAIL AND OBVIOUSLY RESIDENTIAL, WHERE DAWN DRIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE IS RETAIL TO RETAIL. IT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE TO HAVE THAT. BUT WE DID PUT THE STUB IN HERE. AND OBVIOUSLY COOK'S POINT WILL DETERMINE KIND OF HOW THAT IS USED IN THE FUTURE, AS WILL YOU GUYS. SO FROM AN ACCESS STANDPOINT, IT'S A REALLY GOOD PIECE OF GROUND AS TO DISTRIBUTING IT. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL A LITTLE BIT LATER ON THIS, BUT ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS THE 30% COMMON AREA PUBLIC COMMON AREA SPACE. YOUR GOAL OR YOUR OBJECTIVES RIGHT NOW IN STRAIGHT ZONING IS A 10%. WE DID BRING 30% THROUGH ON MARYSVILLE EAST, AND WE HAD THE INTENTION OF BRINGING 30% THROUGH HERE. BUT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU GUYS WANT. SO WE HAVE 70 ACRES THAT IS BEING IDENTIFIED AS THE PUBLIC COMMON AREA HERE, SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT. AND I'LL GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THAT RIGHT NOW. THE MAIN PIECE IS A CAPTURE OF THE EXISTING NATURAL AREAS. NOW THIS IS MAJORITY THIS IS FARM FIELDS PRETTY MUCH ALONG FOR THOSE ARE ALL FARM FIELDS. BUT THERE IS AN OHIO POND HERE. I MADE A COMMITMENT TO THE FAMILY THAT I WOULD KEEP THAT POND WHEN WE STARTED TO DEVELOP. YOUR RECOMMENDATION WAS ALSO TO KEEP IT. SO WE'VE CREATED AN OHIO POND DOWN HERE IN THE SOUTHERN AREA JUST NORTH OF THE APARTMENTS. WE HAVE A CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGH THE CENTER OF THE PARCEL. SO OBVIOUSLY FARMERS CAN FARM ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE EDGE OF THAT CREEK. THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO PROTECT ANY OF THAT CREEK. WE'RE GOING TO RESTORE THOSE BOUNDARIES AS A DEVELOPER HAS TO DO, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT BEYOND THAT, WE'RE GOING TO PLANT TREES IN ORDER TO PROTECT SOME OF THE WATERSHED AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT AS OUR CORE AMENITY. WITH THE TRAIL SYSTEM THAT

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WE HAVE FILLED THE POCKET PARKS THAT WE HAVE HERE WITH TREES. TO ADD MORE. I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE TREES. THE OTHER THINGS WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE TRIED TO CREATE THE ROADS TO WHERE THEY'RE SHORTER. A WALKABLE COMMUNITY HAS SHORTER ROADS. YOU DON'T WANT A ROAD THAT IS, YOU KNOW, A QUARTER MILE, HALF A MILE TO WHERE KIDS CAN'T CROSS OVER IT. AND WHERE WE DO HAVE THAT, WE HAVE CREATED SOME AREAS THAT THEY CAN LINK TO THE COMMON AREA AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. I WILL SHOW YOU HERE IN A LITTLE BIT THE MULTI-PURPOSE AND THE SIDEWALK NETWORK. IT'S A LITTLE BUSY ON THIS SLIDE TO SEE IT. SO WE PULLED THAT OUT AS A SEPARATE SLIDE. IN THE CENTER. I'M GOING TO GO OVER HERE FOR JUST A SECOND IN THE CENTER OF OUR PARK SYSTEM. RIGHT HERE WE ARE ADDING AMENITY. WE'RE GOING TO ADD A CLUBHOUSE WITH A POOL AND WITH A MEETING AREA, SOME OUTDOOR OUTDOOR SEATING AREA. WE WILL OPEN THAT UP. OBVIOUSLY, ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS WILL BE MEMBERS OF THAT, BUT WE MAY OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC AND ALLOW OTHER PEOPLE TO JOIN THAT FACILITY IF THEY WANT. SO THE COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT THE SWIMMING POOLS, WE'RE GOING TO RELIEVE SOME OF THAT FROM, FROM THE POOL BY HAVING THAT HERE. AND THIS IS A I'VE GOT SOME PICTURES OF THE AMENITY HERE A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT THIS IS FAIRLY RARE FOR A LARGE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S NOT RENTAL. TO HAVE A FACILITY LIKE THIS TO BE ABLE TO USE. AND AGAIN, I'LL SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES OF THAT IN THE RETAIL AREA. IF IT WAS UP TO ME, I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY RETAIL. I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF RETAIL, BUT THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE RETAIL THAT IS ALONG THE CORRIDOR 31 THERE. SO WE ARE BRINGING IT UP INTO THE PROJECT. DON DRIVE IS GOING TO BE OUR ACCESS POINT, AS WELL AS FULL ACCESS OF 31. IT'S ONLY SEVEN AND A HALF ACRES OF RETAIL IN THAT AREA. WE THEN USE THE AREA IN PURPLE HERE, AND I'LL GO THROUGH SOME MORE DETAIL HERE OF A HIGHER DENSITY PRODUCT TO KIND OF BUFFER THE RETAIL HIGHER DENSITY. AND THEN THE SINGLE FAMILY. IT'S A TRANSITION OF HOW THE DEVELOPMENT WHEN YOU MASTER PLAN CAN BE DONE LIKE THIS. SO THESE ARE THE SIX SUB AREAS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT I'M GOING TO START. WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE RETAIL HERE IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER SUB AREA A 7.46 I'LL GO THROUGH SOME RETAIL USES HERE. I'M GOING TO GO CLOCKWISE AND NOT ALPHABETICAL HERE. THE PURPLE AREAS IS MIXED USE FROM THE FOCUS AREA. YOU WANTED A VARIETY OF PRODUCT. INITIALLY I PUSHED BACK A LOT ON REAR LOADED PRODUCT. REAR LOADED IS A VERY EXPENSIVE PRODUCT TO BUILD BECAUSE YOU'RE DOUBLING THE SIZE OF THE ROADWAY STRUCTURES, WITH ROADS NORMALLY IN THE FRONT AND THE REAR. WE DID FIND A DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPER THAT WANTED TO COME UP HERE. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE REAR LOADED TOWNHOMES, WHICH IS THE DARK PURPLE ON THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY. THOSE ARE ATTACHED RESIDENTIAL FOR SALE. THEN WE WILL HAVE SINGLE FAMILY THAT MOVES UP TOWARDS EMERALD MEADOWS, WHERE YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, AND THEN THE AREA IN THE MIDDLE ALONG THE OHIO PARK AND THE LITTLE POCKET PARK WILL BE REAR LOADED, SINGLE FAMILY. SO WE'VE GOT THREE DIFFERENT VARIETIES.

SO NOT ONLY DID WE FIND THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU A REAR LOADED PRODUCT, WE'RE ACTUALLY GIVING YOU TWO DIFFERENT REAR LOADED PRODUCTS. AND THE MAIN THING ABOUT REAR LOADED IS YOU TAKE THE UGLINESS OF THE GARAGE AND YOU PUT IT IN THE BACKYARD, AND YOU GET THE ABILITY TO LOOK

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AND THE HOUSES DO HAVE GREAT ARCHITECTURAL DETAIL, BUT THE ONE THING THEY MISS IS THEY'VE TAKEN THE GARAGE AND THEY'VE SHOVED IT IN THE BACK OF THE LOT. IT HAS AN ACCESS DOWN THE SIDE YARD, AND THAT'S WHY IT LOOKS DIFFERENT IN ARLINGTON. A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN'T TELL YOU WHY, BUT IT'S THE ABSENCE OF THAT GARAGE BEING IN THE BACK YARD. NOW IN THIS CASE, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE DIFFERENT LOT LAYOUTS THAT WE'RE OR WE'RE PLAYING WITH. AND I'LL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THAT AND HOW ON THESE REAR LOADED PRODUCT, WE HAVE A SIDEWALK THAT WILL GO FROM THE SIDEWALK TO THE FRONT DOOR. SO IT'S A GOOD ORIENTATION OF, OF THAT PRODUCT BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT WALKING UP 16 TO 18 FOOT CONCRETE DRIVEWAY BECAUSE THE CARS IN THE BACK TO THE NORTH, THE TWO YELLOW, IF YOU CALL THEM YELLOW, THE AREA THAT IS SUBAREA B, THAT IS OUR CORE SINGLE FAMILY. IT'S 97. WE'LL HAVE ABOUT 360 UNITS THERE, A LITTLE BIT SMALLER PRODUCT DOWN HERE IN SUBAREA D, WHICH IS 34 ACRES WORTH. OF THAT ABOUT 145. THAT'S STILL GOING TO BE SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCT. IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE PATIO HOMES, BUT THERE CAN BE SOME RANCHES IN THAT IN THE PRODUCT MIX THAT WE HAVE. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY SUBAREA F IS ALL THE PARKLAND WE'RE ACTUALLY ASSEMBLING THE PARKLAND. SO A LOT OF YOUR STRAIGHT ZONING CODE WILL SAY YOU NEED 10% IN EACH POD. OKAY. SO WE WROTE OUR TEXT AS A PUD AND WE DIDN'T WRITE IT THAT WAY.

WE WROTE IT THAT WE'LL MAKE 30%, BUT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO CENTRALIZE. SO THE RETAIL, THE RETAIL AND THE HIGHER DENSITY HAS A LITTLE LESS COMMON AREA THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE DEVELOPMENT. BUT BY ASSEMBLING IT BECOMES MUCH MORE USABLE. IT BECOMES MUCH MORE IMPACTFUL ON THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE. AND I THINK WHEN YOU START TO LOOK, IF YOU HAVE EVER SEEN A 4 OR 5 ACRE POND, THESE ARE VERY LARGE PONDS. I CAN'T EMPHASIZE THAT ENOUGH. AND THEN WE'VE GOT A LITTLE TAG ALONG. SUBAREA E DOWN HERE IS A HOUSE THAT THE DEVELOPER OF COOK'S POINT DID NOT HAVE ACQUIRED AT THE POINT IN TIME THEY BROUGHT COOK'S POINT THROUGH. IT HAS NOW BEEN ACQUIRED, AND WE TOLD THEM THAT WE WOULD BRING IT THROUGH ANNEXED INTO THE CITY AND ZONE IT. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT 0.75 ACRES THERE. THESE ARE JUST ENLARGEMENTS OF THE AREAS.

AGAIN, FOCUSING ON THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE GREEN SPACE HERE. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THE RETAIL, THE HIGHER DENSITY ATTACHED RESIDENTIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY. AND THEN MOVING OVER TO ROUTE FOUR WHERE WE GOT SINGLE FAMILY THERE. FROM A RETAIL STANDPOINT THESE ARE THE USES.

THE ONES IN YELLOW IS WHAT I WOULD SAY I'M TARGETING. OBVIOUSLY DAYCARE, SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS, PERSONAL SERVICES, RETAIL SERVICES, SERVICES, YOU KNOW, NAIL HAIR, THOSE SORT OF THINGS. FOOD. ASHLEY DID MENTION OUR CONDITIONAL USES RESTAURANTS WITH DRIVE THRU. IT'S NOT OUR TARGET MARKET. BUT IF ONE WOULD COME AROUND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE TEXAS ROADHOUSE NOW HAS KIND OF A PICKUP DRIVE THROUGH AREA. SO SOME SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS ARE STARTING TO DO THIS, OR THEY JUST PUT SIGNS IN THE PARKING LOT. BUT SO IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE. IF SOMEBODY COMES AT THE SCALE THAT WE WANT AND IT WANTS TO DRIVE THROUGH, WE'LL BRING THAT BACK THROUGH. AS PART OF STAFF'S COMMENTS AND PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SENIOR INDEPENDENT LIVING THERE AND THE EMERGENCY CARE FACILITIES. SO THOSE ARE NOT OUR TARGET MIX. SO WE AGREED TO MOVE THOSE OVER TO A CONDITIONAL USE. AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE RETAIL AREA, WE WILL HAVE CHARGING STATIONS AND IT WILL BE A MINIMUM OF AT LEAST TWO. SO THIS IS SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT SOME OF THE HOUSES IN THE HIGHER DENSITY, OBVIOUSLY THE FRONT LOADED OR THE FRONT LOADED HOMES ARE ON THE RIGHT. ON THE LEFT IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF THE GARAGE IS IN THE BACK AND THE DETACHED OR I'M SORRY, THE ATTACHED REAR LOADED PRODUCT TO THE NORTH. AND AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST SOME SAMPLE RENDERINGS. THIS PRODUCT IS BEING DESIGNED.

IT ACTUALLY WAS STARTED TO BE DESIGNED BY GEORGE AYCOCK BEFORE HE PASSED. AND NOW HIS FAMILY MEMBERS ARE ACTUALLY HELPING WITH THE DESIGN OF THIS PRODUCT. I MENTIONED THE LOT THE LOT LOADING. AND I'M JUST SHOWING THIS BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW REAR AND FRONT LOADED. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE THREE EXAMPLES THAT ARE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE HERE, THESE ARE ALL REAR LOADED. SO I'M GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE MIC AND GO OVER HERE. SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF NORMAL SETBACKS AND HOW THE GARAGE AND THE DRIVEWAY COULD BE POSITIONED TO GET THERE. I MENTIONED THE SIDEWALK THAT GOES FROM THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK TO THE FRONT OF THE DOOR. ALL OF THESE HOUSES WILL HAVE PORCHES. THIS IS A ZERO LOT LINE. WE WROTE THE TEXT FOR THE ABILITY TO DO A ZERO LOT LINE. THE VALUE FOR A ZERO LOT LINE IS THAT EVERY OTHER HOUSE IS SKEWED

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AGAIN, I'M JUST HIGHLIGHTING THIS A LITTLE BIGGER IMAGE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE AMOUNT OF COMMON AREA THAT'S COLLECTED TO THE SOUTH ALONG FOUR. WE'VE MOVED THE HOUSES AWAY. WE'RE BUFFERING THEM. I'LL TALK ABOUT THE TREES HERE IN A MINUTE. YOU'VE GOT THE TEN PLUS ACRE PARK IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER. AND AGAIN, THAT PARK IN THE CENTER THAT YOU SEE THERE IS ALMOST FOUR ACRES ITSELF. AND WE DID WIDEN THIS CORRIDOR BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS. WE REMOVED 11 LOTS THERE. AND AT THE FRONT ENTRANCES OFF OF FOUR. WE REMOVED A NUMBER OF LOTS AT BOTH OF THE TWO ENTRANCES OFF OF FOUR, IN ORDER TO MAKE IT MORE OF A PROMINENT. WE'VE GOT AREA TO PUT OUR SIGN AND TO PUT ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING THERE. SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME THAT CAME OUT OF THE FOCUS AREA, BUT THESE ARE SOME THAT THAT WE PRESENTED. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE REPEAT PATTERNS. SO COOKIE CUTTER HOUSES IS A THEME THAT I HEAR ALL THE TIME. SO WE ARE GOING TO USE A DIVERSITY PATTERN THAT PREVENTS HOUSES OF THE SAME COLOR, SAME ELEVATIONS, ETC, BEING BESIDE EACH OTHER. AND IT'S MORE THAN JUST BESIDE EACH OTHER. IF THE TARGETED AREA IS THE DONUT HOLE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YELLOW UP AT THE TOP, THERE'S NO REPEAT ON TWO SIDES OF THE SAME SIDE OF THE STREET.

NO REPEAT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET. NO. REPEAT ONE OFF ON THOSE. SO AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF, WE ARE GOING TO EXPAND THE COLOR PALETTES BEYOND THE 12 THAT IS LISTED HERE. WE WILL PROPOSE THOSE AND TAKE THOSE THROUGH DESIGN REVIEW. BUT WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE AS MUCH COLOR AS POSSIBLE IN THESE AREAS. WE DON'T WANT JUST BROWNS, GRAYS AND WHITES, ALTHOUGH WHITE IS VERY VERY POPULAR. SO WE'RE ENCOURAGING THOSE. THE OTHER PIECE IS FROM A DIVERSIFICATION. AND THESE ARE STANDARDS FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCTS. FROM A DIVERSIFICATION STANDPOINT, WE ARE UPGRADING THE MATERIALS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.

WE DID NOT DO THAT ON MARYSVILLE EAST BECAUSE WE WERE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT A WIDER PRICE RANGE HERE OR PRICE RANGE AT MARYSVILLE EAST ANNEXATION NUMBER THREE HERE, WE'VE AGREED TO REMOVE VINYL AS THE SIDING OPTION. WE WILL GO WITH NATURAL MATERIALS. A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE DIVERSIFICATION OF HOUSING IN MARYSVILLE, AND I'LL STAND HERE AND TELL YOU THAT MARYSVILLE NEEDS ALL LEVELS OF HOUSING. HOWEVER, IF YOU TAKE DIVERSIFICATION, YOU BREAK IT DOWN TO ITS PUREST FORM, MARYSVILLE. FOR THE MOST PART, I WOULD GUESS THAT 70 TO 80% OF MARYSVILLE IS FIRST AND SECOND TIME HOME BUYERS. AND THAT'S THE PRODUCT THAT HAS BEEN HERE.

YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY GOT THE APARTMENT MIX IN THERE. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DIVERSIFICATION, THE HIGHER AREA AND THE TOP OF THE SUBURBAN, THE SUBURBAN OR I'M SORRY, YEAH, THE SUBURBAN MARKET, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TARGETING HERE. SO ROCKFORD HOMES IS GOING TO BE IT'S MY PARTNER, BUT HE'S ALSO THIS IS THE AREA WHEN WE STARTED MARYSVILLE EAST THAT HE FELT HE WANTED TO BE IN, TO COME INTO MARYSVILLE AND DO HIS NICHE IS HE IS THE TOP OF THE PRODUCTION BUILDERS AND KIND OF I DON'T LIKE TO SAY THE BOTTOM, BUT HE IS THE MIGRATION BETWEEN A PRODUCTION BUILDER AND CUSTOM. SO HE WILL START WITH SOME DESIGNS OF HOUSES. BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY INTEREST TO REDO YOUR ENTIRE FIRST FLOOR, HE'S GOT ARCHITECTS DESIGNS. HE'S GOT 5 OR 6 OF THEM ON STAFF AND THEY'LL REDESIGN THE ENTIRE FIRST FLOOR. THEY WON'T START WITH A BLANK PIECE OF PAPER LIKE A ROMAN ELLEN HUGHES OR BOB WEBB OR THREE PILLAR, BUT HE'LL START WITH SOMETHING, AND THEN YOU CAN REDESIGN YOUR HOUSE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR. AND HE HAS THOSE ARCHITECTS. SO HE'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE MAIN BUILDERS HERE. AND THESE DIVERSIFICATION PATTERNS, IT BECOMES VERY EASY FOR A BUILDER THAT CAN CHANGE A LITTLE BIT OF THE STRUCTURE OF THAT HOUSE IN ORDER TO DO IT. NOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T WANT TO REDESIGN AN ENTIRE HOUSE, BUT THAT DIVERSIFICATION, WE ARE GOING TO BE UPWARDS TO THE TOP OF THE MARYSVILLE MARKET, WHICH WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MILL VALLEY AREA IN THIS AREA BETWEEN 4 AND 31, YOU HAVE FIRST AND SECOND

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BUT THE AREA THAT RUNS EAST AND WEST ALONG THE CREEK, LIKE I SAID, WE ARE GOING TO RESTORE THOSE BANKS AND ALLOW THOSE BANKS TO KIND OF EXPAND OUT. THIS IS A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT ROCKFORD BUILT DOWN AT FOXFIRE GOLF COURSE. THEY PARTNERED WITH ME ON. THIS JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE AMENITIES, IN THIS CASE AS THE SAME AS OURS AT MARYSVILLE NORTH. WE WILL HAVE PLAYGROUNDS THERE, AGE APPROPRIATE PLAYGROUNDS. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO TO THE SCHOOLS, YOU GOT AN ELEMENTARY PLAYGROUND AND YOU GOT A MIDDLE SCHOOL PLAYGROUND. SO IT'S DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT. SO WE WILL DO THAT. THE POOL WILL BE THERE AND IT'LL BE A MEETING SPACE. WE ARE NOT PUTTING FITNESS IN. WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THE ROAD OR THE TRAIL SYSTEM AND THE SIDEWALK.

SO WE WILL HAVE SIDEWALKS, FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. WE WILL HAVE EIGHT AND TEN FOOT MULTI-PURPOSE TRAILS. THE TEN FOOT MULTI-PURPOSE TRAIL, WHICH IS YOUR STANDARD, WILL BE ON THE OUTSIDE, THROUGH AND THROUGH THE MAJORITY OF THE PARK AREAS.

WE'VE GOT SOME TRAILS THAT WE WILL PUT IN, THE BIG INTERIOR PARKS THAT WE DIDN'T FEEL WE NEEDED TO DO TEN FOOT, SO WE DID EIGHT. AND THAT'S THE GREEN. THIS IS THE TRAIL SYSTEM. AGAIN, I WILL POINT OUT THE TRAIL SYSTEM HERE TO THE NORTH OF THIS PICTURE, WHICH WILL CONNECT MILL VALLEY TO OUR DEVELOPMENT AND ULTIMATELY TO THE OTHER SIDE OF FOUR, WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE BALL FIELDS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. BUT THAT TRAIL IS ALSO GOING TO CONNECT TO OUR PEOPLE OVER TO MILL VALLEY AND HOPEFULLY ACROSS THE BRIDGE AND INTO THE RESERVOIR. THESE ARE YOUR NINE GOALS. YOU GUYS CREATED THESE GOALS FOR YOUR FOCUS AREA. AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL

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OKAY. MR. BURKE, APPRECIATE THE MATERIAL. I KNOW WE MET ABOUT A MONTH AGO, AND I SEE SOME OF OUR TOPICS THAT WE DISCUSSED INCORPORATED IN TO THIS REVISED PLAN. SO I APPRECIATE THE LISTENING. RIGHT. I MISSED ONE OF YOUR TOPICS. WE REMOVED THE APARTMENTS OR THE MALL, THE ABILITY TO DO MULTI-FAMILY. OKAY. I SAW IT FROM THE RETAIL. I SAW IT OKAY, I SAW IT EXCEL.

MISS PHILLIPS IS OVER THERE CLAPPING. NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. I'M JUST KIDDING. I'M JUST KIDDING. I DON'T MEAN TO CALL YOU OUT EITHER. SO, SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY AS IT PERTAINS TO PERSONAL PROPERTY RIGHTS, EVERYBODY THAT OWNS LAND HAS THE GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO SELL IT. RIGHT. AND YOU AS A DEVELOPER HAVE THE GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO BUY IT. ME, I COULD BUY IT IF I WANTED TO SOMEBODY AND REPLACE IT WITH CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT CONSTITUTIONAL. SO ANYWAY, IT'S LATE AND I'VE BEEN GOING NO, NO, A LONG TIME TODAY. YOU KNOW WE AS COUNCIL I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE UP HERE LAUGHING BUT WE AS COUNCIL REALLY OUR OPPORTUNITY IS TO ESSENTIALLY WORK TO PURSUE A DEVELOPMENT THAT MEETS OUR VISION FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE CAN'T SAY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T JUST PUT OUR FEET DOWN AND SAY NO, BUT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH PROPERTY OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS TO IMPLEMENT DEVELOPMENTS THAT FIT THE MOLD OF OR THAT FIT THE DIRECTION OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND WHAT WE HEAR MORE TIMES THAN NOT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE MISSING SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS. OH, ANOTHER FAST FOOD CHAIN. AND WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE THE OR DIVERSIFY OUR HOUSING STOCK. WE WANT TO ENHANCE OUR DESIGN STANDARDS. WE WANT ARCHITECTURAL ENHANCEMENTS. WE WANT IMPROVED GREEN SPACE. WE WANT TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, NOT NOT NEIGHBORHOODS. WE WANT TO BUILD COMMUNITIES. RIGHT. AND IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING FORWARD TO YOUR POINT, YOU CHECK ALL THOSE BOXES. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. THERE'S REALLY A COUPLE POINTS THAT I WANT TO MAKE. AND THEN I'M GOING TO PASS IT OFF TO MY COLLEAGUES IS IF YOU GO BACK MAYBE 2 OR 3 SLIDES, IT'S THE ONE WITH THE. YEP. RIGHT HERE. SO WHAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS THE, THE LOCATION OF LIKE THE LARGER GREEN SPACE AREAS. LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT SUBAREA F, YOU'VE GOT A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT GREEN SPACE AREA KIND OF RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT I WOULD PERCEIVE TO BE THE BACKYARDS OF MANY RESIDENTS HOUSES. RIGHT? ZACH, I'M GOING TO STOP YOU HERE. I JUST REALIZED THAT THIS IMAGE DOES NOT HAVE THE 11 LOTS THAT WE CLEARED OUT IN ORDER TO CREATE THE COMMODORE OR THE CORRIDOR.

SO I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THIS IMAGE AND THIS IMAGE, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE CORRIDORS MUCH MORE COMING OUT. SO I GOT SO, SO I SO MY FIRST COMMENT IS I LIKE THE PLACEMENT OF THE GREEN SPACE. MY SECOND MY NEXT QUESTION IS WILL THIS GREEN SPACE BE MANICURED. AND I ASK THAT BECAUSE IN A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT I SEE, MINE IN PARTICULAR, THERE'S LARGE GREEN OPEN AREAS THAT ARE CENTRALIZED BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, A GROUP OF HOUSES THAT IT'S JUST OVERGROWN AND IT'S DIRT AND TRASH AND ROCKS, AND IT'S REALLY NOT INHABITABLE FOR KIDS TO PLAY AND, YOU KNOW, GO OUT AND KICK THE FOOTBALL OR PLAY SOCCER OR WHATEVER. THEY THEY DO TAG FOR THAT, FOR THAT MATTER. SO IS THIS IS THE INTENT FOR THIS TO BE MANICURED AND USER READY? YES AND NO. SO IT SO ALL THE POCKET PARKS THAT YOU SEE WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL, THOSE WILL BE MOWED, THEY WILL BE MOWED AND MANICURED. I THINK LIKE YOU'RE SAYING. YEAH, THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAIL SYSTEM THAT GOES NORTH THROUGH THE COMMUNITY WILL BE MOWED DOWN AND MAINTAINED ON A WEEKLY BASIS. SO THE AREAS AROUND THE PONDS, LIKE I SAID, ARE GOING TO BE MORE OF A

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VERY SIMILAR TO PARK SYSTEMS DO. ET CETERA. SO THESE THESE HERE THE BACKSIDE UP HERE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE LANDSCAPE COMPANY. THAT AREA WILL PROBABLY BE TALL GRASSES UNTIL YOU GET TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSES. WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS A WHOLE BUNCH OF TALL GRASSES LEADING INTO SOMEBODY'S YARD. SO ON THIS POND IS VERY SIMILAR TO THAT. THE SIDE THAT IS ON THE WEST SIDE WILL BE MOWED, BUT THE OTHER SIDE, THE OTHER THING THAT YOU'LL SEE, AND THIS ONE CAME FROM THE FOCUS AREA, WE'RE ACTUALLY ADDING SOME BEDS AND SOME TREES AROUND THOSE AREAS.

FOR THE MOST PART THOSE ARE MULCHED BEDS WHICH WILL BE MAINTAINED, ETC. SO THOSE WILL BE THERE. THE MAJORITY OF THE GREEN SPACE UP IN THE POCKET PARK UP IN THE NORTH, THE TEN ACRE PARK, I WOULD SAY THE MAJORITY TO THE NORTH AND TO THE EAST WILL BE MAINTAINED IN A NATURAL AREA. TALL GRASSES MOWED DOWN ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR, AND THE MAJORITY OF THE REST OF THAT WILL BE MANICURED. WHEN YOU GET DOWN HERE, THE MAJORITY OF THIS WILL BE MANICURED, SO BUT ALL OF IT WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION OR THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY, ONE OR THE OTHER. OKAY. AND THEN I WON'T STEAL MR. HUNTER'S THUNDER TALKING ABOUT WALKABILITY AND REAR LOADED HOUSES. SO I'LL LET HIM ADDRESS THAT. BUT MY LAST I GUESS, QUESTION COMMENT IS IF YOU GO BACK TO THE DENSITY HOMES, LIKE WHERE THE TOWNHOMES WE HAD TALKED ABOUT. PORCHES AND MAYBE IT'S JUST A SKETCH THAT I'M I'M LOOKING AT THOSE HOMES THAT YOU WILL HAVE FRONT PORCHES ON ALL OF YOUR HOMES, ALL OF THEM WEATHER. AND I HEARD YOU SAY SINGLE FAMILY, BUT DOES THAT MEAN TOWNHOMES AS WELL? OKAY. ALL OF THEM WILL HAVE A MINIMUM FOUR FOOT SIX FOOT DEPENDING ON THE PLACEMENT OF THE GARAGE. OKAY. RIGHT. AND THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? I SAW A COUPLE. GO AHEAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS OKAY. YOU GO FIRST. SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS THAT KIND OF BROUGHT IT UP. SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT. REGARDS. THE OPEN SPACE LIKE LIKE YOU WERE MENTIONING I APPRECIATE THE KIND OF LAYOUT OF THE OPEN SPACE THROUGHOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THE CONNECTIVITY OF IT WITH THAT. IS IT PLANNED JUST TO BE KIND OF NATURAL OPEN SPACE THAT'S MANICURED IN SOME AREAS, LEFT NATURAL AND OTHERS LIKE YOU MENTIONED, OR ARE THERE GOING TO BE KIND OF AMENITIES THERE? I KNOW AROUND THE CLUBHOUSE AREA YOU'RE HAVING THE POOL AND PLAYGROUND, BUT I THINK OF MAYBE THAT ONE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF SECTION B, IS THERE GOING TO BE SOMETHING THERE, LIKE A BASKETBALL COURT OR LIKE A STREET SOCCER COURT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN ANY OF THESE KIND OF SMALLER PARKS THROUGHOUT THERE, THE BASKETBALL AND THAT SORT OF STUFF? PROBABLY NOT. IT'S NOT A DESIRE THAT'S NOT THE PARK SYSTEM WE HAVE. CAN IT BE? AND THIS IS KIND OF THE DEBATE YOU GET IN AT A DEVELOPER AT OUR STAGE OF THIS PROCESS, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE PEOPLE THAT MOVE INTO HERE, THEY WILL WANT LARGER OPEN SPACES. SO THE FOUR ACRE PARK IN THE MIDDLE THERE IN SUBAREA B, THEY WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT THERE AND PUT UP TEMPORARY SOCCER NETS. AND, YOU KNOW, WITH LITTLE 4 OR 5, SIX YEAR OLD KIDS, HIGH SCHOOL KIDS AREN'T GOING OUT ON THAT FOUR ACRES, BUT THROW A BASEBALL, THROW A FOOTBALL, THOSE SORT OF THINGS. BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS THERE'S ALSO A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE THOSE TO, IN 20 YEARS, BE KIND OF WOODED AND SHADED A LITTLE BIT, SO YOU CAN KIND OF WALK THROUGH AND UNDER THE TREES. NOW I WILL MENTION THAT THIS IS ALL CORNFIELD FOR THE MOST PART ON THE ENTIRE EAST SIDE. BUT SO WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE THE, THE, THE WANT FOR OPEN SPACE THAT IS USABLE FROM THAT STANDPOINT. BUT WE DO NOT PLAN TO PUT PARKING LOTS. WE DO NOT PLAN TO PUT PICKLEBALL COURTS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS IN, IN THOSE AREAS. IN THE CENTRALIZATION OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WE WILL HAVE PLAYGROUNDS, TWO DIFFERENT PLAYGROUNDS, AND YOU'LL HAVE THE AMENITIES THERE. OKAY. MY SECOND ONE REVOLVES AROUND THE TREE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM. AND I KNOW KIND OF GOING THROUGH THAT PACKET YOU HAD, ESPECIALLY IN THAT SOUTH WESTERN PORTION OF A AND C, REMOVING A DECENT AMOUNT OF THE TREES THAT ARE SURROUNDING THOSE HOMES, LEAVING THE ONES THERE AROUND THE OHIO PARK. AND I WENT THROUGH AND WATCHED THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND HEARD THE CONVERSATION THERE. SO ARE YOU PLANNING KIND OF, I GUESS, WHAT YOUR PROCESS IS FOR PLANTING TREES AROUND HERE? ARE YOU DOING A SURVEY, GOING TO REPLANT KIND OF ONE, TWO, FOUR, WHATEVER ONE THAT YOU CUT DOWN? YEAH. SO WE ARE NOT PLANNING TO DO A SURVEY. SO I'VE GOT I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THIS QUESTION BECAUSE I DID TAKE

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ET CETERA. AND KIND OF GIVE SOME SORT OF A SCALE HERE IN THAT DISCUSSION WITH ONE OF THE LANDOWNERS, I WAS SURPRISED THAT THE MAJORITY WELL, MAYBE NOT THE MAJORITY, BUT ABOUT HALF OF THESE ARE DEAD ASH TREES. UNFORTUNATELY, RIGHT NOW I CAN'T GO OUT AND TELL YOU WHETHER A TREE IS LIVING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, NONE OF THEM HAVE LEAVES RIGHT NOW. BUT THERE ARE A LARGE MAJORITY OF ASH TREES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN REMOVED FROM HERE. NOW, OBVIOUSLY THE TREES THAT ARE ALONG 31, THAT'S OUR THAT'S OUR RETAIL AREA. SO THOSE TREES ARE COMING DOWN AS WELL AS THE THREE DILAPIDATED HOUSES, TWO OF WHICH HAVE BEEN BOARDED UP FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. SO WE WILL BE CLEANING THAT UP AS WELL. THE TREE LANE THAT IS THE LONG SOUTHERN KIND OF RED BUBBLE THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST TREES. THAT'S LEADING BACK TO THE TWO VERY NICE HOUSES THAT ARE BACK THERE THAT WE WILL REMOVE. SO THIS IS OUT OF 240 ACRES. THIS IS THE ONLY AREA THAT WE'RE REMOVING TREES. AND THERE IS ONE 100 YEAR OLD TREE THAT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A CORN FIELD THAT WE ARE RETAINING, AND ACTUALLY BUILT THE TEN ACRE PARK AROUND UP TO THE NORTH. BUT I WENT THROUGH METICULOUSLY AND WHAT WE SHOW ON OUR MAP. NOW, DON'T LOOK AT THE MAP THAT I GAVE YOU RIGHT THERE, BECAUSE I JUST ADMITTED THAT IT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED, BUT I WILL UPDATE IT BECAUSE I COUNTED OFF OF OUR OTHER MAP. WE HAVE CLOSE TO 3200 TREES, 1100 ON THE HOME SITES. BECAUSE EACH OF THE SINGLE FAMILY WILL REQUIRE AN ORNAMENTAL AND A DECIDUOUS TREE, THE SMALLER, HIGHER DENSITY WILL HAVE AT LEAST ONE TREE IN THE YARD, 700 TREES IN THE PARK IN THE OPEN SPACE, AND THE STREET TREES. NOW THIS IS THE STREET TREES THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE ONES THAT WE'RE USING TO BUFFER FOR AND 31 FOR. WE'VE GOT 1200, BUT I COUNTED 31, 84 OR 82 WAS THE NUMBER THAT I COUNTED. I COUNTED IT TWICE AND I THEN BROKE IT DOWN INTO SECTIONS. SO I DID THIS. SO WE ARE GOING TO PLANT MORE THAN 3000 TREES. SO I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE NOW THAT I KNOW THE NUMBER THAT WE ARE GOING TO OUTPACE WHAT THAT IS. BUT SPENDING TEN, 15, $20,000 TO HAVE SOMEBODY GO OUT THERE AND INVENTORY ALL THE TREES THE SIZE OF THE TREES, THE SPECIES OF THE TREES, AND WHETHER IT'S ALIVE OR DEAD, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A GOOD USE OF RESOURCES, ESPECIALLY AFTER I COMMITTED TO OR I COUNTED THAT WE ARE ALREADY COMMITTING TO 3000, SO I HAVEN'T GONE BACK WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR STAFF ON THIS BECAUSE I DID THIS LATE LAST NIGHT. BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO FIND THAT A LOT OF THOSE TREES IN THAT AREA ARE ACTUALLY DEAD. OKAY. SO DOES THAT AND NOT HAVE HEARD OF STAFF FOR ANYTHING ON THAT MOVING FORWARD? BUT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I'VE KIND OF PUSHED BACK BEFORE ON OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I DID PUSH BACK UNTIL I HAD THE INFORMATION. NOW I'M VERY COMFORTABLE. SO IF YOU GUYS WANT TO DO A TREE SURVEY, I THINK I'M GOING TO WELL, OUTPACE IT. AND I COULD TAKE 4 OR 5, 600 TREES AWAY IF YOU REALLY WANT ME TO, BUT I'D PROBABLY RATHER NOT DO THAT. MY NEXT ONE REVOLVES THE COMMERCIAL PORTION ON THAT SOUTHWEST SIDE. I KNOW WE'VE SPOKEN BEFORE, BUT ARE YOU STILL HAVING THE COMMERCIAL ORIENTED TOWARDS THE STREET WITH THE PARKING IN THE REAR OF THAT? YES. SO THIS THE TOP THREE WERE FROM YOUR KIND OF ASPIRATIONAL TYPE THINGS. AND THE FOCUS AREA, THE BOTTOM ONE IS PROBABLY WHAT WILL PROBABLY SEE MORE. WE ARE PUSHING THE FRONT. WHICH WOULD YOU WOULD DEFINE THE FRONT TOWARDS 31. IT'S GOING TO ELIMINATE THE PARKING FROM BOTHERING THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET. WE WILL DO SOME MOUNDING, SOME FENCING, ETC. SO THE LIGHTS AND THE HEADLIGHTS IN BETWEEN THERE. BUT IF YOU LOOK HOW THIS KIND OF LAYS OUT WITH DON. WITH WITH DON DRIVE COMING UP HERE, IT REALLY SETS UP FOR THE PARKING TO BE LOCATED BACK HERE. WITH THIS BEING TOWARDS THE FRONT. SO AND WITH THIS IMAGE YOU CAN SEE THAT IF YOU'RE USING THE SIDEWALK AND YOU'RE COMING OVER AND SAY, WE HAVE AN ICE CREAM SHOP, HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE A COFFEE SHOP. THERE'S LIKE 20 OF THEM ALREADY UP IN THIS AREA. BUT IF YOU HAVE AN ICE CREAM SHOP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU CAN COME UP AND YOU CAN GO IN THERE.

NOW, THERE ARE CHALLENGES WITH THIS DESIGN BECAUSE THAT MEANS THE PEOPLE AND YOUR DELIVERIES ARE COMING IN THE SAME SIDE OF THERE. BUT YOU CAN YOU CAN DEAL WITH THAT AS, AS ONE OF THE TENANTS IN THIS AREA. BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY MORE SO LIKE THIS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND, THE ONE ON THE RIGHT THERE THAT WAS MORE ALIGNED FOR HAVING APARTMENTS OR SOMETHING ABOVE IT, AND WE'VE ELIMINATED THAT. SO I DON'T THINK BECAUSE OF THE STATE OF THE WORLD OF OFFICE

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NOW, I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T NEED EVERYTHING ELSE BECAUSE THE HOUSING CRISIS, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THAT. BUT THIS IS AN AREA THAT MARYSVILLE DOES NOT SATISFY RIGHT NOW. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T BE PROPOSING THIS IF WE DIDN'T THINK WE COULD SELL IT. NOW, THE PRICING ON THE TOWNHOMES AND THE SINGLE FAMILY, THE REAR LOADED, WE'RE NOT THAT FAR, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT TARGETING AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR OR OR LOWER PRICED HOUSING. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, YOU'VE GOT PULTE THAT HAS A VARIETY OF PRICING. YOU'VE GOT MILL VALLEY HERE. SO WE'RE ADDING A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PRODUCT, INTENTIONALLY TARGETING A PORTION, A SEGMENT OF THE MARKET THAT MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. I DON'T EXPECT PEOPLE WITH FAMILIES TO BE MOVING IN THE SINGLE FAMILY FRONT AND REAR LOADED SMALLER PRODUCT, THE TOWNHOMES. MAYBE IF YOU HAD AN INFANT. BUT YOU KNOW, OUR HOA POLICIES. SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO ALLOW TRAMPOLINES AND NOT GOING TO ALLOW SWING SETS UNLESS THIS WOULD BE IN THE FENCED IN AREA.

BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT FENCED IN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. IT'S MEANT TO BE THERE WHEN YOU COME OUT OF COLLEGE OR YOU COME OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL AND YOU FIRST GET MARRIED AND YOU'RE A YOUNG FAMILY, AND THEN AS YOU GROW BOTH IN FAMILY MEMBERS AND IN INCOME, YOU THEN MOVE UP AND OUT INTO ANOTHER AREA THAT THE COMMUNITY. AND THE GOOD THING IS, MOST OF THE RESIDENTS WON'T BE SITTING IN TWO AND A HALF TO 3.5IN INTEREST INTEREST RATE LOANS HERE. SO THEY WILL BE MORE APT TO MOVE UP AS THEY GO, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE IN ALL MARKETS ACROSS CENTRAL OHIO IS THE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE MOVING INTO THE NEXT LEVEL OF HOUSING IS NOT GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE OF WHERE THEIR INTEREST RATE IS. AWESOME. AND MY LAST QUESTION KIND OF REVOLVES AROUND THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WILL BE MOVING INTO THEIRS. I THINK JUST LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, IT'S ROUGHLY 700 ISH UNITS, GIVE OR TAKE, BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY AND TOWNHOMES. AND YES, SO THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. SO OUR SKETCH PLAN ANTICIPATED ABOUT 746. SO WE'RE UNDER THREE UNITS AN ACRE NOW. WE'RE AT ABOUT 690. AND THAT IS AN ENGINEERED NUMBER. SO OUR MAX IS THE 690. IT'S VERY UNLIKELY THAT WE'LL BE THERE. YOU DO ALL THE ENGINEERING AND EVERYTHING OF THE SITE. SO UNDOUBTEDLY, YOU KNOW THESE PEOPLE WANT WATER TO GO CERTAIN WAYS AND ALL THAT. AND WHEN I SAY THESE PEOPLE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ENGINEERS. YOU CAN DESIGN THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THING IN THE WORLD, AND THOSE ENGINEERS WILL COME IN AND THEY'LL JUST MESS IT ALL UP. I'M BEING FUNNY, BUT SO THE 690 IS THE MAXIMUM THAT WE CAN HAVE, AND THAT'S DOWN 46, ALMOST 50 UNITS FROM WHERE WE STARTED. AWESOME. I GUESS THIS KIND OF TIES IN WITH THAT, BUT HAVE YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SCHOOLS ON THIS PROJECT? AND YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING IN AND HOW MANY PEOPLE AND WHAT CONCERNS THEY HAVE. NOT SPECIFICALLY, BUT THEY'RE AWARE OF ALL MY PROJECTS. I'M A VERY BIG SUPPORTER OF THE SCHOOLS. WE I THINK EVERY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER SHOULD BE DONATING TO THE SCHOOLS. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT ONLY ARE WHERE OUR KIDS ARE GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL, BUT THEY'RE DEVELOPING A WORKFORCE

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I'M GOING TO STAY OUT OF THE LEVY FOR THE MOST PART, BUT I AM GOING TO SAY THIS BASED ON THE PRICE OF THESE HOMES, I MEAN, AND THE AVERAGE PRICE OF THE REST OF MARYSVILLE, BECAUSE THIS WILL BE IN THE TOP END, THESE PEOPLE ARE LIKELY TO PAY MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT THE TAXES ARE AT ANY GIVEN LEVY MILLAGE RATE. THEN THE AVERAGE PROBABLY IN MARYSVILLE THAT EXISTS TODAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, I TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT AND IT'S A LITTLE TONGUE IN CHEEK, BUT I DON'T THINK NEW PEOPLE MOVING INTO MARYSVILLE VERSUS THE OLD PROCREATE ANY DIFFERENTLY. SO THEY DON'T HAVE MORE KIDS. THEY PROBABLY HAVE LESS. BUT FROM THAT STANDPOINT, BECAUSE OF THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE AND THE WAY THE LEVIES AND THE MILLAGE WORKS, THESE FOLKS ARE VERY LIKELY TO PAY TWICE AS MUCH IN PROPERTY TAX AS THE AVERAGE PERSON IN MARYSVILLE.

MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. THANKS, MR. BARRETT, FOR GOING THROUGH THAT PLAN.

JUST SOME COMMENTS. SO I SEE IN A PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT YOU'RE INCORPORATING IDEAS THAT I SEE IN OUR COMP PLAN. I SEE THAT PEOPLE, THE RESIDENTS BACK IN THE LATE 20 TENS, WHEN THEY PUT THAT TOGETHER, THEY VOTED ON CERTAIN STYLES, CERTAIN TYPES OF MAYBE ARCHITECTURE LAYOUT, AND I SEE ELEMENTS OF THAT INTEGRATED INTO THIS. I APPRECIATE THE GREEN SPACE AND ESPECIALLY THAT KIND OF MIDDLE POD THERE. I GREW UP NEXT TO A WOODS. PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T GROW UP LIKE I DID. THEY CALL IT A FOREST, BUT I WAS NEXT TO A WOODS. I. I ENJOYED PLAYING IN THE TREES AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING FORTS AND WHATNOT. SO, YOU KNOW, I NOW I LIVE IN A SUBURB, BUT I THINK THAT THAT BRINGS A LOT OF GOOD EXPERIENCES TO A CHILDHOOD. I'M GOING TO BACK UP A LITTLE BIT AND KIND OF COMMENT ON WHEN MILL VALLEY WAS VOTED, WHAT I, WHAT I RECALL HEARING PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY IS THAT MILL VALLEY WAS THE FIRST OF ITS KIND FOR MARYSVILLE AND. ROUTE 31. WE EVENTUALLY HAD TO PAY A LOT OF MONEY. WE HAD TO SEEK A LOT OF MONEY TO MAKE 31 NOW WORK, BECAUSE WE JUST DID SOMETHING THAT WE HAD NO EXPERIENCE DOING. WE BUILT THIS GIANT NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE'LL NEVER MAKE A MISTAKE AGAIN ABOUT BUILDING A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A WIDENED STATE HIGHWAY. AND I JUST REMEMBER THIS FROM, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS AGO AND PEOPLE'S MULTIPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS SAYING THIS, THAT WE'LL NEVER MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN BY PUTTING A LARGE NEIGHBORHOOD IN AND NOT HAVING THAT ROAD PLANNED, PAID FOR ALL OF THAT AHEAD OF TIME. AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE ENTRY POINTS ON 31. WE WANT IT ALL TO GO TO FOUR. THAT TELLS ME THAT IN JUST THE NUMBER OF UNITS, IT TELLS ME WE'RE GOING TO BE PUSHING A LOT OF TRAFFIC TO ROUTE FOUR. HOW IS THAT NOT MAKING THE SAME MISTAKE THAT WE'LL NEVER MAKE AGAIN? HOW IS THAT? HOW IS IT DIFFERENT? WELL, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS. ONE, WE'RE GOING TO SLOW DOWN FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT FOR WITH WITH SOME OF THE INTERSECTIONS THERE. BUT WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY. SO THE ENGINEERING AND THE TRAFFIC PIECES COME LATER. BUT YOU'D BE STUPID TO START A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS WITHOUT THINKING THEM UPFRONT. SO WE'VE ALREADY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ENGINEERING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEIR EXPECTATION IS WITH THIS PROJECT. FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, WE HAVEN'T FINALIZED THOSE. THAT IS WHAT HAS PUSHED US BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AUTHORITY, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH ON A TRAFFIC STUDY AND YOU'RE GOING TO DOCUMENT YOU START BY DOCUMENTING THE EXISTING TRAFFIC THAT IS THERE. THEN YOU ADD IN PROJECTIONS FOR THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT YOU'RE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO CREATE, AND THEN YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT INTERSECTIONS NEED TO BE IMPROVED AND ALL THAT. AN INTERSECTION LIKE ON ROUTE FOUR.

BY THE TIME YOU DO THIS DEVELOPMENT, I MAY ONLY BE BECAUSE THERE IS STILL EXISTING TRAFFIC ON ROUTE FOUR. I MAY BE ONLY 40% OF A CERTAIN INTERSECTION. AND AGAIN, I MENTIONED THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DISTRIBUTION GOING OUT TEN DIFFERENT ACCESS POINTS, BUT I MAY ONLY BE 40% OF THAT LOAD THAT IS BEING ADDED TO THAT AREA. THAT'S REQUIRING A LIGHT OR A ROUNDABOUT OR AN IMPROVEMENT. LET'S JUST SAY THAT. SO IDEALLY I WOULD WRITE A CHECK FOR 40%, GIVE IT TO THE CITY AND SAY, I'M DONE, SEE YOU LATER. YOU KNOW, AND AT THE POINT IN TIME THAT OTHER DEVELOPMENTS HAPPEN AND FILL IN THAT THAT TRANSPORTATION TO

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WE'RE COMING UP HERE. WE'RE SELLING A PRODUCT. WE WANT THIS TO WORK NOT ONLY FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT BUT FOR THE OTHER PEOPLE AROUND IT. LIKE I SAID, OUR FUTURE RESIDENTS HERE COULD BE LIVING IN MILL VALLEY OR COULD BE LIVING IN THE PULTE PROJECT RIGHT NOW. SO WE DON'T WANT TO CHASE THEM AWAY WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF TRAFFIC OR A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER PROBLEMS WE LIKE TO GIVE. AND THIS PARK SYSTEM, I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS YOU DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH LIKE THIS ANYWHERE IN MARYSVILLE. YOU'VE GOT A $50 MILLION PARK BUDGET WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO CONNECT COMMUNITIES IN THE FUTURE WITH THAT AND MAKE UP FOR SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT'S BEEN MADE IN THE PAST. WE'RE CONNECTING ALL THAT HERE. SO WE'RE GIVING THE RESIDENTS THAT'S GOING TO LIVE IN THIS MARYSVILLE NORTH MORE VALUE ON THAT STUFF BEING THERE DAY ONE, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY WILL PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE MILLAGE TO LIVE IN THIS AREA, AS OPPOSED TO SOME OF THE AREAS IN MY COMPETING MARYSVILLE EAST ON ANNEXATION THREE. THE PULTE PROJECT WILL PROBABLY BE DONE BY THE TIME WE'RE THERE, BUT FISCHER'S GOT A NUMBER OF HOUSES, SO WE ARE BANKING THAT WE ARE GOING TO GIVE THEM AMENITIES AND A PACKAGE THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM FROM A TAX STANDPOINT. THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

OH, IS IT OKAY. DO YOU DO, MRS. CRAMER? THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND AS I GET UP TO SPEED ON THIS, I

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BICYCLES GOING BOTH WAYS CAN PASS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. AND LIKE I SAID, OUR RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO USE THOSE PATHS TO GET OVER INTO MILL VALLEY AND HOPEFULLY CROSS THE BRIDGE AND GET INTO THE RESERVOIR AND THOSE RECREATIONAL AREAS. AND IF THEY WANT TO, THEY CAN TAKE YOUR TRAIL SYSTEM ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SCHOOLS. SO YEAH, THIS IS 100% YOUR TRAIL SYSTEM IS A CONNECTED COMMUNITY. WE'RE CONNECTING EVERYTHING FROM BOTH SIDES OF 31 AND FOUR. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN EVEN BIKE OVER TO THE BASEBALL FIELDS. AND, YOU KNOW, IF MOM GETS IN TROUBLE AND IS AT THE INTAKE FACILITY, YOU CAN GO OVER AND SEE HER ON THE SIDE OF FOR. THANK YOU. MR. REAMES, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT TONIGHT? NO, I THINK WE I WOULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE AMENITIES, YOU KNOW, HERE ARE KIND OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR A LONG TIME. AND THE NCAA BRINGS JUST ANOTHER TOOL TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. RIGHT.

IF NO ONE ELSE HAS ANYTHING, I'LL, I'LL I'LL GO I'LL TALK ABOUT A FEW THINGS, YOU KNOW, FIRST FIRST I FIRST I JUST WANT TO I FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE DEFINITION OF SMART GROWTH

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AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR IS THAT'S THE REASON WHY THIS COUNTRY IS WHERE IT IS HEALTH CARE. RISE. INTEREST, HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, HOUSING. IT'S ALL ACCELERATING, WHICH IS WHY OUR COUNTRIES AND THE AND THE TURBULENCE THAT IT'S IN. SO THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT'S NOT THERE'S NO THERE'S NO NOBODY. THERE IS NO MAGIC WAND THAT WILL SAY, IF YOU BUILD THIS TYPE OF HOME THROUGHOUT YOUR COMMUNITY, YOU HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT THAT DOES NOT EXIST. SOME COUNTRIES, YOU KNOW, HAVE DONE IT BETTER THAN WE HAVE. I THINK THAT WE ARE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THERE EVENTUALLY. BUT THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IF YOU PAY MORE THAN 30% OF YOUR INCOME TO WHERE YOU LIVE, YOU QUALIFY FOR

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SO TO CITY STAFF OR ADMINISTRATION, WHOEVER HAS ANDY BEEN ABLE TO WALK THE SITE ANDY EVANS, OUR OUR CITY ARBORIST, TO DISCUSS THE TREES IN THE AREA OR TO LOOK AT THE TREES OR ANYTHING? ANDY HAS NOT WALKED THE SITE, BUT THAT IS AN OPTION. OKAY, I THINK IT MIGHT BE VALUABLE TO PUT IN THE PUD TEXT THAT WE ENSURE THAT CITY STAFF, OR ESPECIALLY CITY ARBORIST, IS LOOKING THROUGH THE TREES AND KIND OF FIGURING OUT AND, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING AT THAT. I KNOW YOU MIGHT NOT LOVE THAT IDEA, BUT ACTUALLY I'M VERY COMFORTABLE. OKAY. AFTER I COUNTED THE NUMBER OF TREES, UNDERSTANDING THE SMALL AREA THAT WE'RE TAKING OUT, I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH WITH WITH HAVING THAT, I'LL TAKE ANDY MYSELF. OKAY. AND WE COULD DO IT HERE IN A MONTH OR TWO. WE WON'T BE BACK FOR DESIGN REVIEW OBVIOUSLY FOR, FOR A WHILE. AND THE ANNEXATION. THIS IS GOING TO GET TABLED FOR ABOUT 35 DAYS BECAUSE THE ANNEXATION IS IN THE 60 DAY WAITING PERIOD. SO THE DECISION WON'T BE UNTIL CLOSER TO MAY OR LATE JUNE. SO HOPEFULLY WE HAVE LEAVES ON THE TREES. SO I'LL GLADLY WALK ANDY THROUGH THE PROJECT. TO GIVE A GENERAL IDEA. NOW THAT I DID, THE COUNT REALIZE THAT THERE'S MORE THAN 3000 TREES ON THIS SITE THAT WE'RE WE'RE ADDING. OKAY. AND THEN AND TO ANSWER WOLF'S QUESTIONS ABOUT TREES, THE CITY THE CITY DID PUT IN BUDGET TO DO A TREE CANOPY STUDY. AND WITH THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY TO DETERMINE WHAT WHAT WHAT WE DO HAVE IN TREE CANOPY STUDY AND WHERE WE'RE LACKING AND WHERE SHOULD WE BE PLANTING BETTER AND USING THAT TREE CANOPY STUDY, THEN THAT GIVES COUNCIL THE ABILITY TO SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT NOT ONLY LAND THAT'S IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE NOW, BUT AS FARMERS SELL THEIR LAND AND THEY AND THEY DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY, HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT THOSE WOODS THAT ARE EXISTING ON THAT PROPERTY ARE PROTECTED FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, LIKE IT HAS BEEN FOR SO MANY RESIDENTS BEFORE US AND THE HOME THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT YOU'RE IN THE E, I THINK IS THAT THE WHITE RANCH THERE'S LIKE, DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, IT'S JUST A SMALL LITTLE RANCH, WHITE RANCH.

OKAY. AND THEN I'LL ALSO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT 700 HOMES AND WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC AND ALL THOSE THINGS, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW AND I DON'T KNOW, TO THE, TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT GREEN PASTURES TO FIND, TO SEE HOW MANY HOMES ARE IN GREEN PASTURES. I THINK THIS NEIGHBORHOOD REFLECTS A LOT OF WHAT GREEN PASTURES HAS BUILT. I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO GIVE I'LL GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. I THINK THE CONLEY'S BUILT A BUILT A NICE DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, LONG TIME AGO. AND YOU THINK ABOUT MARYSVILLE, I DON'T KNOW WHEN DO YOU DO YOU GUYS KNOW WHEN THE WHEN WHAT YEAR THE FIRST HOUSE WAS BUILT OR BY CHANCE, I MEAN GREEN PASTURES AT 27 YEARS AGO. 27 YEARS AGO. SO YOU ABOUT 2000, 99, 1998. OKAY. SO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME, THAT WAS A HUGE DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, A LARGE DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT DEVELOPMENT REALLY IN AND AS AS ZONING HAS CHANGED BECAUSE OF WHAT FUTURE GENERATIONS WANT, WANT CHANGE MEANING IN THE SENSE OF HOW IT'S DEVELOPED. NOW YOU'RE SEEING MIXED USE, NOW YOU'RE SEEING MORE MORE OF TOWNHOMES BEING BUILT. YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT HAS TRANSITIONED BECAUSE OF THE

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SO, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE WHAT'S WHAT'S APPROVED HERE DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T CHANGE, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT TIME. AND SO AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC, YOU THINK OF THAT DEVELOPMENT, HOW LARGE SCALE THAT DEVELOPMENT IS IN THE ENTRANCE AND THE EXITS OF THAT DEVELOPMENT. SINCE THERE'S SO MANY OF THEM, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT COLLINS, YOU LOOK AT WEST FIFTH STREET, FOR AN EXAMPLE, BECAUSE OF THE ENTRANCE AND ACCESS EXITS, THERE'S SO MANY OF THEM. NOT EVERYONE'S FOCUSED ON ONE WAY OUT AND ONE WAY IN. SO IT RELIEVES THE TRAFFIC. AND I THINK WHAT PEOPLE FORGET ABOUT MILL VALLEY IS WHEN THAT WAS DESIGNED. AND CORRECT ME, MR. HOYNE, IF, IF, IF I'M WRONG, COULD THAT HAVE BEEN DONE BEFORE? THERE WAS TRAFFIC STUDIES OF MILL VALLEY, WAS THERE TRAFFIC STUDIES DONE BACK WHEN MILL VALLEY WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED? BECAUSE THERE WASN'T LIKE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS OR DESIGN REVIEW BOARD BACK THEN? YEAH, THERE WAS TRAFFIC STUDIES. THERE WAS TRAFFIC. I DON'T THINK ONE WAS PERFORMED FOR MILL VALLEY, BUT OKAY. WHAT WAS THAT? OKAY. OH, BUT IT ACTUALLY GAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY DIDN'T, THAT THE CITY DIDN'T IMPLEMENT. SO LIKE BUT BUT IN SAYING THAT THOUGH, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT MILL VALLEY AND YOU HAVE THE MAIN ARTERY WHICH IS MILLWOOD DRIVE CANDLES, A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND IT FUNNELS A LOT OF TRAFFIC. SO THERE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ENTRANCE AND EXITS NOW IT'S GOTTEN BETTER, BUT I THINK COMPARED TO GREEN PASTURES, THERE WAS MORE OF A THOUGHT PLAN AND MORE OF A LONG TERM VISION FOR GREEN PASTURES. AND WHAT I WILL SAY IS WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IS YOU HAVE USED THAT SAME KIND OF STYLE OF THOUGHT PROCESS TO ENSURE THAT WHAT IS BEING BUILT IS GOING TO BE SUSTAINABLE TO THAT SMART GROWTH CRITERIA. THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT STREET LIGHTING AND THE LIGHT POLLUTION, I THINK AGAIN, I'LL USE GREEN PASTURE AS AN EXAMPLE. THERE'S OTHER OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL, BUT I'LL USE GREEN PASTURES AS AN EXAMPLE. THOSE STREET LIGHTING IN GREEN PASTURES, REALLY MOST OF THOSE LIGHTING IS ONLY ON INTERSECTIONS. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I'LL WEAR MY CITY PLANNER HAT. STREETS THAT HAVE A LOT OF LIGHTING ALSO INCREASES SPEED. AND SO AT NIGHT TIME YOU HAVE HIGHER VELOCITY OF SPEED ON STREETS THAT ARE WELL LIT COMPARED TO STREETS THAT ARE NOT LIT. SO WHEN SO WHEN RESIDENTS COMPLAIN ABOUT SPEED, YOU KNOW, LIGHTING HAS HAS AN EFFECT ON THAT, WHICH IS WHY SOME, SOME OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE BEECHWOLD AND COLUMBUS AND, AND OTHER AREAS LIKE BEXLEY, AND THEY HAVE LOW LIGHTING IN THEIR CITY BECAUSE IT PROTECTS THE RESIDENTIAL FEEL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO YOU'RE NOT CREATING AN EXPRESSWAY THROUGH YOUR COMMUNITY BY PUTTING A STREET LIGHT EVERY, LET'S SAY, 25FT FROM FROM EACH OTHER, ILLUMINATING THAT, THAT ROADWAY.

SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY I'LL JUST SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND THE DEDICATION YOU HAVE DONE TO GIVE US A PLAN THAT I WOULD EVEN GO AS FAR AS, SAY, WILL RIVAL ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE BUILT RECENTLY. I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SHOWING THE RESIDENTS AND ADMINISTRATION THAT YOU CAN BUILD A SOLID DEVELOPMENT THAT ADDS CHARACTER AND GREEN SPACE AND DIVERSITY AND SHOWING THAT DOING THIS IS NOT FRIGHTENING OR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T DO IN MARYSVILLE. I KNOW THAT THERE WAS REALTORS IN THE PAST WHO ADVOCATED FOR BACK LOADEARAGES. AND, YOU KNOW, I STATED WAY BACK THEN THAT I AGREE AND YOU'RE BUILDING IT. SO I THINK YOU KNOW, THIS PLAN. YOU HAVE LISTENED, YOU'VE TAKEN THE TIME AND YOU'RE MAKING AND YOU'RE TAKING CONSIDERATION TO THE RESPECT OF THE FAMILY WISHES OF PRESERVING CERTAIN AREAS OF CERTAIN AREAS. SO AND THAT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THIS DEVELOPMENT AS COUNCIL, AS WE CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, THAT GOAL POST MIGHT BE ALWAYS SHIFTING A LITTLE BIT TO KEEP THINKING ABOUT TREES AND THOSE OPEN COMMON SPACES AND WHAT THAT

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SO THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST ONE OTHER THING THAT I THINK THE PUBLIC MIGHT APPRECIATE KNOWING, TOO. I MEAN, WHAT'S THE PROJECTED BUILD OUT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS BART OR TIME FRAME? I MEAN, 5 TO 7 YEARS, WE'RE STILL PROBABLY A YEAR AWAY FROM HAVING THE FIRST FOR THE ENTIRE BUILD OUT OF THE ENTIRE SITE. YEAH. SO, I MEAN, WE'VE STILL GOT TWO MONTHS WORTH OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS, THE REFERENDUM PERIOD. WE'VE GOT THEN TO ENGINEER IT ON OUR DIME, THEN WE SUBMIT IT FOR REVIEW PROCESS, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT DESIGN REVIEW IN THERE. SO I MEAN IT'S PROBABLY A 5 TO 7 YEAR PLAN HERE. SO AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS. I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE ALL THE CREDIT THAT SEEMS TO BE COMING THIS WAY. BUT YOU GOT TO REMEMBER THIS HAS BEEN A SLOW PROCESS. IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS. IT STARTED IN 2021. VALUE TO THE LANDOWNERS THAT ARE PATIENT, THAT HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS BEING SOMETHING DIFFERENT. VALUE TO YOU GUYS, PROVIDING ALL THE ALL THE FEEDBACK DURING THE FOCUS AREA. YOUR STAFF, YOU MENTIONED THE REAR LOADED. I'M PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST PEOPLE THAT PUSHED BACK AGAINST THAT. BUT WE FINALLY GOT THERE. AND IT'S NOT JUST KIND OF MOVING THE GOALPOSTS A LITTLE BIT. I THINK YOU SAID JUST SLIDING IT. NO, YOU, YOU MOVE IT QUITE A BIT AND YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S FINE. WE'RE DEVELOPING SOMETHING. IF WE COULDN'T DEVELOP IT, WE WOULD STOP. BUT FOR THE RESIDENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT SAY THAT PROJECTS COME INTO MARYSVILLE AND EVERY ONE OF THEM JUST GETS APPROVED WITHOUT WHATEVER THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO DO. THIS IS NOT THE ONE TO POST THAT, BECAUSE THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN LONG, PAINFUL AT TIMES, BUT THE FEEDBACK OF STAFF OF YOUR CITY, YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS OVER A COUPLE DIFFERENT ACTUALLY COUNCIL BOARDS BECAUSE WE STARTED HAVING SOME OF THIS DISCUSSION LONG BACK. SO THIS HAS BEEN A VERY COOPERATIVE PIECE. THE EDGE GROUP, YOU GUYS HIRED THEM. WE BROUGHT THEM THROUGH. SO IT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT WE'RE PROBABLY MORE ALIGNED ON THIS ONE THAN OTHER PROJECTS THAT COME STAND ALONE ON A 50 OR A 75 ACRE PARCEL. YEAH. AND I AND I, I'LL JUST PIGGYBACK ON THAT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ELECTED. EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO SERVES ON THIS BENCH, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A COMMON VOICE, WE ALSO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT VOICE. AND WE HAVE TO GIVE RESPECT TO EACH AND EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO ADVOCATES FOR WHAT THEY INDIVIDUALLY BELIEVE IS IMPORTANT, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT BELIEVE SOMETHING IS VERY IMPORTANT INDIVIDUALLY TO THEM, THEY WORK TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE WORKING FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THIS CONTINUES TO SHOW THAT COUNCIL AS A WHOLE, YOU KNOW, SINCE JANUARY, SINCE JANUARY OF LAST YEAR, ALREADY WE HAVE DONE WHAT WE CAN DO IN HIRING, SECURING, MAINTAINING THAT REASONS WHY WE WERE ELECTED, TO ENSURE THAT MARYSVILLE IS GROWING SMART. WE ARE GROWING IN A WAY THAT'S GOING TO ADD CHARACTER, THAT'S GOING TO ADD PEOPLE WHO WHO ARE GOING TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY IN ALL LEVELS OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN RAISE THIS COMMUNITY TO CREATE MORE RESTAURANTS, ENTERTAINMENT ENGAGEMENTS AND BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. AND, YOU KNOW, AND AS THE COUNTY GROWS, THIS COMMUNITY WILL BE LOOKED AT AS A DESTINATION. AND THAT IS THE REALITY OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF YOU GO TO 736 AND SCOTT ROAD, THERE'S HOUSES BEING BUILT SCATTERED ALL OVER THE FARMLANDS, AND THOSE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO USE MARYSVILLE FOR RESTAURANTS, ENTERTAINMENT, HOSPITAL AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GOING TO NOT ONLY CONTINUE, BUT. INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT COLLECTIVELY AS A COUNCIL. THESE ARE ALL OPPORTUNITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WILL CONTINUE TO DISCUSS AND IMPROVE ON. AND TO SCOTT'S POINT, WE'VE LEARNED FROM OUR MISTAKES WITH MILL VALLEY. AND I THINK THIS RIGHT HERE SHOWS THAT THIS IS AN IMPROVEMENT TO WHAT IS WHAT IS EXISTING. SO AND THAT I'LL JUST REST AND SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC

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SORRY, MARYSVILLE CITY CODE SECTIONS 5.1, 3.0351, 3.0451, 3.05, 5.1, 3.0651, 3.0751, 3.0851, 3.1252, 5.0553, 3.0153, 3.0353, 3.0453, 7.0253, 7.02153, 7.1453, 7.1654, 5.0154, 5.07. TO PROVIDE FOR PENALTIES, TO PROVIDE FOR CODIFICATION. TO PROVIDE FOR SEVERABILITY. TO REPEAL CONFLICTING ORDINANCES. TO PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

ADMINISTRATION. YES. MR. PRESIDENT, THE NEXT TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION, THIS ONE AND THE NEXT ONE, ARE SIMPLY CLEAN UP ITEMS. THE OHIO REVISED CODE HAS BEEN UPDATED. SO IT'S TAKEN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES AND UPDATING THEM TO MATCH THE OHIO REVISED CODE. WE DO THIS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. SO THAT'S SIMPLY WHAT THESE NEXT TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION ARE. COUNCIL. TAX.

SO THE ITEMS THAT I WAS TAKEN THROUGH, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE ELIMINATED. AND THEN THE ITEMS THAT ARE UNDERSCORED THAT IS THE NEW LANGUAGE FOR THAT. IS THAT HOW I READ THIS LEGISLATION THAT WOULD MATCH THE OHIO REVISED CODES ADJUSTMENTS? YES. TO BE QUITE HONEST, WHEN I READ THROUGH THIS THE FIRST TIME, I'M I'M MAYBE A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED HOW IT SEEMS TO BE EVOLVING IN ITEMS THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN IN. YEAH. ONE IN PARTICULAR. IF WE EVEN TOUCH NOW, NO PERSON WHO KNOWS THAT A LICENSED MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL HAS COMMITTED AN OFFENSE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEVER DEALT WITH BEFORE. IS THAT AGAIN PART OF WHAT THE OHIO REVISED CODE TELLS US TO PUT IN THE LANGUAGE THAT MARYSVILLE HAS? THAT RULE IS THAT IS THAT HOW I READ THIS? NO, NOT NECESSARILY OUR OUR CRIMINAL AND TRAFFIC CODE, FOR THE MOST PART MIRRORS THE ORDINANCES IN THE OHIO REVISED CODE. SO WHEN THE OHIO REVISED CODE, WHEN THE CRIMINAL TRAFFIC ORDINANCES ARE STATUTES, I SHOULD SAY IN THE APPENDIX ARE AMENDED FROM YEAR TO YEAR. OUR MUNI CODE SERVICE OUR OUR CODIFIED THIS SERVICE THAT PUBLISHES, PUBLISHES AND UPDATES ARE MUNICIPAL ORDINANCES, PART OF WHAT WE PAID FOR IS FOR THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CODE MIRRORS THAT OF THE ORC. SO THIS IS OUR DRAIN, OUR OLD SERVICES TO DO IT TWICE A YEAR. SERVICES WE HAVE NOW.

MUNI CODE DOES IT ONCE A YEAR. OKAY. THIS IS THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. SO SOME OF THESE ORDINANCES MIRROR STATUTES THAT ARE IMPLEMENTED THANKFULLY IN MARYSVILLE. OR IF THEY ARE, IT'S RARE. SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. YEAH I KNOW NO, I, I UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE.

IT'S JUST THAT I SEE THINGS IN HERE THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE. THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. YEAH. SO BUT IF IT FOLLOWS THE OSC THEN OBVIOUSLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF ORDINANCES THAT THAT ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, THANKFULLY THAT ARE NOT USED THAT, THAT DON'T THAT. THE VIOLATIONS ARE NOT CHARGED OR TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS THAT ARE RARELY OKAY. BUT WE STILL OBLIGATED YOU FEEL THAT WE ARE STILL OBLIGATED TO HAVE IT AS AN ORDINANCE ON, ON ON OUR BOOKS. YES. YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHTY. NOW THAT THAT WAS WHAT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE, THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON APRIL 14TH. ORDINANCE

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NOTHING FURTHER. COUNCIL. I JUST WANT TO THANK MACKENZIE FOR READING ALL THOSE SO DUE DILIGENTLY. THANKS FOR LISTENING. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON

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WE'VE SAID IT BEFORE, PEOPLE WILL BE OUT AND ABOUT. THEY'LL BE WALKING, RIDING BIKES, THINGS SUCH AS THAT. SO JUST BE VERY CAUTIOUS AS YOU'RE NAVIGATING AROUND THE COMMUNITY AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE A WONDERFUL SPRING SEASON HERE AS WE HEAD INTO SUMMER. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. I'LL START WITH I THINK I STARTED WITH YOU LAST WEEK. SO, MR. PRESIDENT, THIS WEEK I THANK MR. EMERY FOR STEALING MY THUNDER. I WAS GOING TO BRING THAT UP FOR THE THIRD WEEK IN A ROW, BUT I'LL NO NO SENSE TO BEATING A DEAD HORSE. SO NOTHING NOTHING FURTHER HERE. I'LL JUST SAY I, I'VE BEEN DRIVING AROUND THE MILL VALLEY AND AROUND MARYSVILLE AS A WHOLE, AND IT'S BEEN NICE SEEING EVERYONE OUT AND ABOUT AT THE PARKS AND ON THE BALL FIELDS AND GETTING READY FOR OPENING DAY THIS WEEK IN BASEBALL WITH THE REDS, AND IT'S NICE TO SEE THE COMMUNITY KIND OF GETTING OUT FROM THE HIBERNATION OF THE WINTER AND GOING ON WALKS, AND YOU SEE PEOPLE WALKING THEIR DOG AND CHASING AFTER THEIR DOG. AND SO IT'S JUST I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GET OUT AND ENJOY THE WEATHER AND, YOU KNOW, THE START OF SPRING AND GET INTO THE SUMMER SEASON. NO COMMENTS, NO COMMENTS. SURE, I GOT A FEW THINGS. FIRST, SERGEANT JOE PETZINGER FROM THE MARYSVILLE POLICE HAD I SAW A POST HE HAD GRADUATED THE POLICE EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP COLLEGE. SO GREAT JOB IN THAT. AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH SERGEANT PETZINGER AND JUST SHARE MY BACKGROUND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY I WANTED TO SERVE. AND IT WAS A GOOD, GOOD TIME. LET'S SEE HERE THE SCHOOL WE HAD HEARD FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS INVITING US TO MEET THE NEW SUPERINTENDENT. I GOT TO OBSERVE SOME OF THEIR PROCESS IN SELECTING THE SUPERINTENDENT, AND I WOULD JUST ONE WORD TO DESCRIBE THAT WOULD BE COMPREHENSIVE. AND I KNOW WE WENT THROUGH HOURS UPON HOURS, MAYBE TENS, MULTIPLE, TENS OF HOURS. AND OUR OUR QUEST TO FULFILL A SEAT ON COUNCIL. THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN DOING THAT AS WELL AS DID, I THINK, VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS FROM THE COMMUNITY. BUT ALL OF THE BEST FOR THE SCHOOLS IN THE FUTURE, AND ALL OF THE BEST FOR DOCTOR HOWARD AND HIS FAMILY. GOING BACK ALMOST TWO WEEKS, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE DUBLIN STATE OF THE CITY. I SAW A FEW COUNCIL MEMBERS THERE AND THEIR MOTTO WAS LEADING THE WAY. THEY HAD QUITE AN IMPRESSIVE EVENT THEY HAD. IT STARTED OFF WITH A PERFORMANCE BY A LOCAL THEATER GROUP, SO IT WAS GOOD TO SEE THAT MARYSVILLE WE'RE WE'RE ARE WHERE THE GRASS IS GREENER, YOU KNOW. SO I LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, POINT THAT OUT TO DUBLIN PERHAPS ALL IN GOOD HUMOR. ONE OTHER THING, TONIGHT WAS OUR FIRST TIME THAT WE REORDERED THE AGENDA. I DON'T KNOW IF THE PUBLIC PICKED UP ON THAT, BUT WE ACTUALLY VOTED ON MATTERS FIRST, AND THAT WAS JUST BECAUSE WE HAD CHANGED OUR RULES. SO THAT MAY BE A NEW EXPERIENCE, BUT WE MAKE THE DECISIONS UP FRONT. THEN WE GO TO THE ITEMS. I GUESS SECOND READINGS ARE ARE STILL IN THE SAME PLACE, BUT THEN LATER WE'RE GOING TO THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'RE HEARING ABOUT THINGS. BUT THAT'LL BE FROM HERE ON OUT UNTIL WE CHANGE THE RULES, IF WE WERE TO EVER CHANGE THE RULES. SO IF I THINK MAYBE WE WELCOME FEEDBACK ON THAT, BUT I THINK WE DISCUSSED THAT IN OUR REVIEW OF RULES, AND WE SAW THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE MORE EFFICIENT. AND TONIGHT WAS THE FIRST TIME I THOUGHT IT WENT WELL. LET'S SEE HERE THERE WAS A CITIZEN COMMENT I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS. MR. HAMMOND HAD BROUGHT FORTH SOME OF OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RULES OF COUNCIL. ACTUALLY, I HADN'T EVEN CONSIDERED THAT. I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER US TALKING ABOUT ANONYMOUS COMMENTS OR ABOUT NOT STATING THE ADDRESS, BUT I DO RECALL THE THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT UTILIZING FORMS TO SUBMIT TO COUNCIL FOR AGENDA, LIKE IF I WAS A RESIDENT AND I WANTED TO ADDRESS COUNCIL OR ASK

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NON UNANIMOUS IN MY MIND, EQUATES TO US HAVING VARYING VIEWPOINTS. AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T GET ALONG, IT JUST MEANS THAT WE ARE ALL, ALL OF OUR GEARS ARE TURNING EVER SO SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY. AND IT MEANS THAT WE'RE CRITICALLY EVALUATING WHAT COMES BEFORE US. AND THEN JUST LASTLY, WE ARE APPROACHING APRIL. AND FOR ME PERSONALLY, I HAVE CHILDREN IN THE MARYSVILLE SCHOOL DISTRICT. I, I SAW THE DEMEANOR OF THE COMMUNITY THE DAY AFTER THE NOVEMBER ELECTION. I SAW LOCAL PIZZA SHOPS PUTTING ON FUNDRAISERS TO TRY AND SUPPORT STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOLS TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN EXTRACURRICULARS. CO-CURRICULARS GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVOLVED WHERE THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE THAT. AND I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHERE YOU WANT TO SEE THE NEXT GENERATION OF LEADERS TO GET OUT AND SHOW YOUR VOICE. AT THE POLLS WE TALKED ABOUT THIS HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

WE TALKED ABOUT OTHER HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS AND DEVELOPERS HAVING AN INTEREST IN THOSE BEING GOOD, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THEY FEED THE WORKFORCE. OUR NEXT GENERATION ARE THE ONES WHO ARE GOING TO BE LEADING THIS COMMUNITY. OUR CHILDREN ARE GOING TO BE THE ONES SITTING UP HERE AND MAKING DECISIONS. I WANT OUR CHILDREN TO BE EQUIPPED TO GO INTO THE FUTURE AND DO WELL. SO PLEASE MAKE YOUR VOICE BE HEARD. THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU. MR. REEVES. I JUST HAD SOMETHING I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED EARLIER DURING THE ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS. SO WE HAD A REALLY NICE DAY A FEW DAYS AGO. I TOOK FRANCIS AND J.LO TO THE DOG PARK. J.LO, MY DOG, AND THERE'S SOMEONE POINTED OUT THAT ALONG THE FENCE THERE, THERE'S SOME HOLES THAT DOGS CAN GET OUT OF. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT, BUT IT'S A LONG IT'S ON THE ACTIVE DOG SIDE AND IT'S ALONG, I WOULD SAY THAT LIKE THAT DRIVE NEAR THE SALT BARNS AND SO FORTH, WHERE WE HAVE THAT CLOTH KIND OF BLOCKING THAT VIEW. THERE'S JUST A COUPLE PLACES WHERE THERE'S SOME LARGE HOLES. THE GROUND LOOKS LIKE IT KIND OF SHIFTED A LITTLE BIT, NOT JUST DOGS BARKING. SO IF WE CAN GET THAT SECURED, THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. THIS IS JULIE. MR. I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENTS THIS EVENING. YOU'VE ALL EXPRESSED QUITE A FEW OF MY THOUGHTS QUITE ELOQUENTLY, SO I WILL PASS IT ON TO PRESIDENT BERGER, THE YOU KNOW, ANY I JUST WANT TO THANK MR. HAMMOND FOR HIS INFORMATION. HE HAS PROVIDED COUNSEL AND ALSO OVER THE WEEKEND AND I I'M NOT GOING TO GO TOO MUCH INVOLVED IN IT, BUT OVER THE WEEKEND WE LOST A HISTORIC STRUCTURE, WHICH WAS THE PIERCE HOME. AND THE PIERCE HOME WAS DEMOLISHED WITHOUT GOING IN FRONT OF A BOARD AND COMMISSION BECAUSE IT'S OUT OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE THINK ABOUT SMALL TOWN CHARM OF OUR TOWN, THE HISTORY OF OUR TOWN BUILDING COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WHAT DO WE SAVING AND WHAT'S AND YOU KNOW, WHAT'S LEGACY. PEOPLE CAN LOOK PAST THAT HOME AND SAY, WELL, THAT HOUSE WAS A DUMP. IT WAS FALLING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WHO CARES? BUT WHO WERE THE PIERCE SISTERS AND WHAT WAS THEIR LEGACY FOR THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE? AND THERE'S A LOT OF STRUCTURES LIKE THAT AROUND THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. YOU CAN THE BARRHAVEN SISTERS THERE. THAT FARMHOUSE IS STILL STANDING. AND THEY WERE AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THE BARRHAVEN NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NAMED AFTER THEM. AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY IDENTITY AND COMMUNITY HISTORY AND

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