Jul 14, 2025 City Council

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BUT I WAS GOING TO GET IT AFTER THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. I JUST

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MR. BERGER HERE, MR. HUNTER HERE, MR. RAINES HERE, MISS CRAMER HERE. AND COUNCILMAN

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PRESIDENT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING. MINUTES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE JUNE 23RD, 2025 CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES? MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 23RD MEETING. THANK YOU, MR. COUNCILMAN HUNTER. ALL IN FAVOR? IS THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE JUNE 30TH, 2025 SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES? I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THEM AS PRESENTED. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THANK YOU.

[ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]

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HEARING NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. REPORT OF CLERK OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU, MISTER PRESIDENT. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. OKAY. THANK YOU. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. BUT BEFORE

[REPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT]

SO MARYSVILLE WAS FOUNDED IN 1819. THE POPULATION WAS WAS LESS THAN 20 PEOPLE. THESE 20 INDIVIDUALS BELIEVED IN A BRIGHTER FUTURE, CREATING A COMMUNITY WHICH WELCOMED INNOVATION AND DIVERSITY. THE MAJORITY OF THE ECONOMY WAS FARMERS AND CRAFTSMEN. SCOTS WAS FOUNDED IN 1868. THE POPULATION WAS 849 RESIDENTS IN 1918. NESTLE'S CALLED MARYSVILLE HOME AT THE TIME WHEN THE POPULATION WAS 3035. HONDA CAME TO MARYSVILLE. THE AUTO THE AUTO PLANT IN 1982, WHEN THE POPULATION GREW TO 7403. PLOT. WORK IS A COMPANY DEDICATED TO SUPPORTING AND PRODUCING INNOVATION AND PARTS WHICH WILL SUPPORT THE OVERALL JOB MARKET HERE AT HOME AND OUTSIDE THE WALLS OF OUR GROWING COMMUNITY, SUPPORTING EACH OTHER WHILE WELCOMING NEW FACES IS MARYSVILLE'S LEGACY. GIVEN YOUR COMPANY'S CONTRIBUTION TO TECHNOLOGY, PHOTO TYPING, CUSTOM DESIGN, FABRICATION, YOU CONTINUE TO PUT MARYSVILLE AND THE SURROUNDING REGION ON THE FOREFRONT OF INNOVATION, MANUFACTURING AND TECHNOLOGY, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE PROUD TO WELCOME PLOT WORK TO OUR VAST, EVER CHANGING LANDSCAPE. OUR COMMUNITY'S COMMITMENT IS TO ALWAYS FOSTER OPPORTUNITY, AND OUR COMMON GOAL IS TO WORK HARD AND BUILD A PROMISE. WE ARE GENERATING AND INSPIRING OTHERS TO PRODUCE SOMETHING BIGGER THAN OURSELVES, TO LIFT US ALL. WE WELCOME YOU AND ARE HERE TO SUPPORT. THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR CHOOSING MARYSVILLE AND WELCOME TO OUR FAMILY. SO IN THAT I OPEN IT UP FOR YOU, ERIC, YOU MIGHT WANT TO TALK REAL QUICK ABOUT WHERE PLOT WORK LOCATED. AND IT'S A JAPANESE COMPANY, PROBABLY WHAT? OUR 21ST JAPANESE COMPANY, 20TH, 20TH 20. WELL, WE'VE HAD MORE THAN THAT.

BUT IF YOU HAVE CONSOLIDATED AND, YOU KNOW, HONDA CONSOLIDATED SOME OF ITS NUMBERS AS WELL. BUT PLOT WORK, 15 TO 20 EMPLOYEES AT THE PIONEER FLEX, WHICH IS LOCATED ON INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY. THEY HAD THEIR GRAND OPENING, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE NOT OPENING YET, BUT THEY'LL BE OPENING OVER THE NEXT 30 DAYS OR SOMETHING. SO THEY HAD 30 OR 40 JAPANESE, I THINK I WASN'T THERE, BUT BUT I KNOW YOU AND DONALD WERE AND BUT IT'S A REALLY COOL COMPANY. THEY DO PROTOTYPING FOR MANUFACTURING USERS, AND IT'S REALLY NOT 3D PRINTING. IT'S VERY SPECIALIZED WHERE THEY ACTUALLY MAKE THE PART, THEY SELL THE PART TO THE COMPANY, BUT IT'S REALLY A PRECISION TYPE COMPANY, THAT KIND OF COMPANY YOU REALLY WANT IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND IT'S REALLY WE'RE BLESSED TO HAVE THEM. THEY'RE BASED IN OSAKA, JAPAN. WE WILL BE VISITING THEM IN SEPTEMBER AND TELL THEM, THANK YOU FOR THEIR INVESTMENT IN MARYSVILLE. BUT THEY'RE

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THANK YOU FOR GIVING THE SPEECH AND WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY. SO ABSOLUTELY. SO I HAVE A FEW SLIDES HERE. I'M JUST GOING TO UPDATE. YOU HAVE AN UPDATE ON A FEW THINGS. YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. JENNIFER. JUST ON SOME THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY. OF COURSE, YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED AWS FACILITY. THIS IS ACTUALLY AN INNOVATION PARK. THESE ARE THE DESIGN REVIEW PLANS. IT DOESN'T SHOW THE LANDSCAPING BUT GIVES YOU DETAIL. OF COURSE. THIS IS US 33. THIS IS THE NISSAN OR EXCUSE ME NISSAN BUILDING THAT'S OVER THERE TO THE UPPER RIGHT. BUT THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU THE LAYOUT WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS. YOU WILL BE RECEIVING LEGISLATION SOON ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH WILL INCLUDE EASEMENTS AND OTHER OTHER DOCUMENTS AS WELL. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT.

SO MORE TO COME PROBABLY IN THE NEXT 30, 30 DAYS BEFORE YOU ALL AND WE'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE PROGRESS OF THAT. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S $1 BILLION INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. THAT INVESTMENT THEY'RE ACTUALLY MAKING. YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THANK YOU.

THIS IS A UPDATE ON OPUS. OF COURSE IT'S UP. AS YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING IS MOVING QUICKLY.

THEY PLAN TO BE COMPLETED ON SEPTEMBER 1ST. THEY DID HOLD AN OPEN HOUSE THAT TERRY AND I ATTENDED. WE HAD PROBABLY HAD ABOUT 30 PEOPLE THERE FROM BROKERS AND DEVELOPERS AND COMPANIES LOOKING AT THE BUILDING. THEY DID A TOUR OF THE BUILDING, PLUS THEY HAD A PRESENTATION AT AMEC. WE PROVIDED A COMMUNITY UPDATE AS WELL TO THOSE WHO ATTENDED. SO THAT BUILDING IS WELL UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S ABOUT 250,000FT■!S AS WELL. YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, HARDY WORLD. THIS GOOD NEWS IS, YOU KNOW, VENTURE MOVED FROM THEIR LOCATION, THEIR LOCATION ON THE SOUTH END OF THE OF THE OF THE BUILDING. THEY TAKE UP ABOUT 20,000FT■!S WITH I THINK THEY HE AN OPTION FOR 10,000 MORE SQUARE FEET IF THEY NEED IT. BUT THAT'S BEEN AN EXISTING BUSINESS IN MARYSVILLE SINCE 2004. THEY SOLD THEIR BUILDING, WHICH WAS OVER MARYSVILLE SQUARE. SO WE'LL HAVE A NEW COMPANY, OHIO ALUMINUM AND GLASS. THEY MOVED UP HERE FROM HILLIARD. SO THEY MAKE WINDOWS AND SO FORTH. SO THAT WAS SOLD TO THAT COMPANY. BUT AGAIN, HARDY WORLD IS ALSO CHANGED. BROKERS IS A NEW BROKERAGE FIRM THAT'S WORKING ON THIS. SO THERE'S BEEN SOME RECENT ACTIVITY TO SEE MORE. BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO GET THE FIRST 20,000FTS LEASED IN THAT BUILDING. NEXT SLIDE. SO UBER TRANSIT THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU AN UPDATE WHERE WE ARE SO FAR SINCE JANUARY OF 24 WE SPENT 60 A LITTLE OVER ALMOST $69,000. WE HAVE $76,000 IN THE POT. SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT MONEY. MONEY LEFT THE SUMMER MONTHS IS DO DO SLOW DOWN. BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY TRIPS, ALMOST 10,000 TRIPS HAVE BEEN A RESULT. THERE'S A 259 UNIQUE RIDERS USING THE APP AND THE RIDES. THE AVERAGE FARE IS ONLY $11 AND SOME CHANGE. AVERAGE RIDE IS ABOUT 2.5 MILES, WHICH KIND OF TELLS YOU A FEW THINGS. THE IT TELLS YOU FIRST AND FOREMOST THAT TYPICALLY THESE ARE APPOINTMENTS OR PEOPLE GOING TO WORK, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

THERE'S ANOTHER SLIDE THAT WOULD BE MORE IMPACTFUL. IT SHOWS YOU THE USAGE PER DAY, AND 90% OF THE USAGE IS BETWEEN 6 A.M. AND 4 OR 5 P.M. SO THAT AGAIN TELLS YOU THESE ARE APPOINTMENTS TYPICALLY AND OR GOING TO WORK. AS YOU KNOW, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY TYPE OF TRANSIT SYSTEM. SO THIS IS INCENTIVIZING AND UBER TO HAVE A BIGGER PRESENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THIS. HOPEFULLY THIS DEMAND WILL CONTINUE IN MARYSVILLE AFTER THIS PROGRAM ENDS. AND WE DON'T HAVE INTENTION OF FUNDING IT MORE UNLESS THERE'S AN INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD TO GETTING UBER, A BIGGER PRESENCE OF UBER IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE NEXT SLIDE. SO WE ARE UPDATING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.

THERE WILL BE A STEERING COMMITTEE. THERE'LL ALSO BE PUBLIC MEETINGS AS WELL. THE LAST PLAN WE DID FULL PLAN WAS IN 2014. WE DID AN UPDATE IN 2018. SO THIS IS ANOTHER STEP FORWARD IN UPDATING THE STRATEGY ON ON WHO WE WANT TO ATTRACT TO LOCATE HERE FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE, BUT LOOKING AT THE COMMUNITY, HOW WE CAN GROW, HOW WE CAN GROW THE TAX BASE AND FOCUS ON JOBS, PAYROLL AND INVESTMENT. BUT AGAIN, THERE'LL BE A STEERING COMMITTEE. WE RECEIVED 20 PROPOSALS AS OF 4:00. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF REVIEW TO DO. BUT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THOSE PROPOSALS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEM AND WE'LL COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION AND HOPEFULLY HIRE SOMEONE TO UPDATE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD. AND OF COURSE, THERE WILL BE UPCOMING MEETINGS WITH CITY COUNCIL TO UPDATE YOU ON THAT PROGRESS. WE'LL ALSO TRY TO TIE THAT INTO THE VISIONING PLAN THAT THE CITY IS WORKING ON AS WELL. BUT A LOT TO COME ON THAT. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, JENNIFER. AND THEN ALSO JUST SOME UPDATES ON LEEDS. SO WHERE

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YEAH, I WOULD GUESS IS HOW MUCH TIME WE HAVE REMAINING. THERE'S BEEN NO OTHER MONEY, AS YOU KNOW, ALLOCATED TO IT FROM A CITY, COUNTY OR PRIVATE SECTOR. ORIGINALLY THE CITY PUT IN 25,000, THE COUNTY PUT IN 25,000, AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR PUT IN 26,000. AND SOME CHANGE, I BELIEVE, WAS THE BREAKDOWN. THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT IT IS A, IN MY OPINION, EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE AND I'M OUT OF TOWN. I DO I HAVE USED IT AND IT HAS SHOWN TO BE VERY RELIABLE. SO THIS SHOULD BE A HOPE THAT PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE USE OF. WE HAD A AND APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT. WE HAD A JAPANESE GROUP, A CONSULTANT, DELOITTE OUT OF TOKYO. THEY WERE HERE VISITING HONDA, THE CITY AND OTHERS. AND THIS WAS BACK IN DECEMBER. AND THEY WERE THEY AND I SAID, WHERE ARE YOU STAYING? THEY'RE STAYING DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS. AND THEY SAID, YOU'RE GETTING A CAR. AND THEY SAID, NO, WE'RE GOING TO UBER. AND I SAID, OH, WE'RE REALLY GOING TO TEST THIS SYSTEM NOW. SO THEY GOT AN UBER FROM DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS, CAPITAL SQUARE TO MARYSVILLE CITY HALL. THEN THEY GOT A SECOND UBER FROM MARYSVILLE CITY HALL TO HONDA FOR A MEETING. AND THEN THEY GOT ANOTHER UBER FROM HONDA TO LEON'S AND THEN ONE FROM LEON'S TO DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS. SO THEY MADE THE FULL TRIP WITHOUT ISSUE. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS THAT WAS PRETTY AMAZING THAT THAT SYSTEM ACTUALLY WORKED WELL. IT WAS REALLY NERVOUS ABOUT THAT. SO BUT IT WORKED. YES. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A ONE OR MAYBE TWO COMMENTS. YOU KNOW WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT JAPANESE OWNED COMPANIES AND WHAT THEY EDUCATED US ON WAS AS THEIR POPULATION AGES, THEY ARE LOSING WORKFORCE. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, AMERICA IS

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THAT'S WHY THERE ARE 150 IN THE REGION. 45 JAPANESE COMPANIES ARE SPREAD ALONG THE CORRIDOR BETWEEN BELLEFONTAINE AND DUBLIN. SO A THIRD OF ALL THE JAPANESE COMPANIES ARE LOCATED RIGHT IN THIS CORRIDOR BECAUSE OF HONDA'S INVESTMENT. AND THAT NUMBER DOESN'T EVEN COUNT THEIR INVESTMENT THEY'VE MADE. SO IT IS TRULY IMPORTANT TO OUR FUTURE. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TEN JAPANESE STUDENTS FROM URI WILL BE VISITING HERE THE LAST WEEK OF AUGUST, AND WE ARE TRYING TO SET SOMETHING UP WITH CITY COUNCIL TO MEET THE STUDENTS, AND THEY'LL HAVE THREE CHAPERONS WITH THEM, MOST OF WHICH HAVE NEVER BEEN TO THE USA. THIS IS THEIR FIRST TIME, SO THEY'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE TRIP. AND SO WE'LL BE HOSTING THEM IN THE LAST WEEK.

SO MORE TO COME ON THAT AS WELL. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. MR. WOLF PARKS AND RECREATION.

[PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION REPORT]

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OKAY, SO THIS SIGN RIGHT HERE, I CAN HONESTLY SAY I'M A SIGN EXPERT IN MY DAY JOB. SO I WENT OUT TONIGHT AND WAS LOOKING FOR ONE OF THOSE SIGNS THAT I SAW THE OTHER DAY. BUT THE SIGN I SAW WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS WRITTEN ON THAT'S LIKE THAT. AND THE REASON WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP IS WHAT COLOR IS THAT? IT'S GREEN RIGHT NOW. LIKE I SAID, I'M AN EXPERT. WHEN YOU DRIVE BY THAT SIGN RIGHT THERE, OR THE LITTLE ONES THAT YOU GUYS RIDE ON THAT HAS THE MEETING TIME ON IT, BECAUSE I SAW IT. THEY'RE GREEN AND THEY FADE IN SO MUCH YOU DON'T SEE THEM, SO MAY I AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE HELP WITH THAT, GETTING THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO GET YOU THE RIGHT COLORS AND THE RIGHT THING. COME SEE ME, PLEASE, TERRY. OKAY. BECAUSE I'D LIKE US TO BE ABLE TO SEE THEM.

I ALMOST MISSED IT THE OTHER DAY, SO THAT'S WHY. BUT THAT'S ON THE SIGNS. THE NEXT THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS THE. WE HAD SOMETHING HAPPEN AT A MEETING RECENTLY. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT DAY IT WAS. THANK YOU, DONALD, FOR LOOKING AT ME. I APPRECIATE IT, BUT I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING. WE'VE GOT TO BE REALLY CAREFUL AND ME INCLUDED. I'M NOT JUST PICKING ON YOU GUYS, BUT WE'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING TO THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS, DON AND I THINK I KNEW WHAT YOU MEANT THAT NIGHT WHEN YOU SAID IT, BUT YOU SAID THAT TIPS DON'T COST THE CITIZENS. TIPS DO COST THE CITIZENS. LET'S BE CLEAR, GUYS, YOU PAY FOR THEM THE FIRST TIME WHEN YOU'RE PAYING YOUR TAXES. AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO MAKE UP FOR WHAT'S GOING TO THE TIFF. I MEAN, LET'S BE HONEST, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. AND I WOULD JUST REALLY LIKE YOU GUYS AND ME INCLUDED, TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING AND BE FACTUAL. MAYOR, THAT'S WE DON'T HAVE A MAYOR SYSTEM. WE HAVE PRESIDENT COUNCIL. THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE. I'M JUST ASKING US TO BE MORE CORRECT BECAUSE I DEAL WITH THE PUBLIC JUST LIKE YOU GUYS DO, RIGHT? AND I GET TIRED OF GETTING CALLS. OKAY. SO I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT TO YOU. ALSO, I WANTED TO THANK THE GANG OVER AT THE CITY BUILDING, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M SHAKING.

I'M NERVOUS. I'M NOT NERVOUS WITH YOU GUYS. ANYWAYS, I WANT TO THANK THE GANG OVER THERE, JEREMY AND THE GANG OVER THERE, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DOING A PHENOMENAL LISTEN TO ME, PHENOMENAL JOB THEY PUT IN. THEY. AFTER MARYSVILLE STEEL WAS PURCHASED, THEY WENT AND THEY PUT IN THE PHILLIPS THRUWAY AND IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL, YOU GUYS. I'M NOT KIDDING. YOU GOT TO COME SEE IT. COME OVER MY HOUSE. WE'LL HAVE A PARTY. BUT THEY TOOK THE FENCE THAT WAS ALONG THE ODOT STATION. THAT LOOKED AWFUL FOR ME. AND MY OTHER NEIGHBORS. HAD TO LOOK AT IT ALL THE TIME AND PUT A NEW FENCE UP. AND IT LOOKS GREAT. AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY WERE GOING TO PAVE IT. THE WALKWAY IS DOING REALLY GOOD AS IT IS, SO I CHALLENGE ANY OF YOU GUYS. COME HANG AT MY HOUSE. WE'LL GO SEE IT. I'M NOT HOME THIS WEEK, BUT NEXT WEEK WE CAN DO THAT. BUT ANYWAYS, I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO JEREMY. THEY HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY, VERY ACCOMMODATING TO ME, TO MY NEIGHBORS, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEY COME TO US. HEY, BARB, WHAT DO YOU THINK? OR HEY, WHATEVER, WHAT DO YOU THINK? AND THEY'VE BEEN GIVING US AN INPUT ON IT BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONES THAT LIVE BY IT. SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THEM AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? HEATHER MONTGOMERY, 1305 FOXWOOD DRIVE, MARYSVILLE, OHIO. OH, THE SIGN THING IS PROBABLY BECAUSE OF A SOCIAL MEDIA INTERACTION I HAD WITH DONALD BERGER EARLIER TODAY. SOMEONE HAD POSTED ABOUT HIM WHEN HE RAN A LONG TIME AGO. AND, YOU KNOW, HIM HOLDING THE SIGN UP, AND I HADN'T REALLY SEEN HIM. AND I SAID, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A SIGN, MY EXACT TEXT. I HAVE NEVER SEEN ONE OF THESE SIGNS. CAN YOU SEND A PIC OF ONE PLACED AROUND ANYONE SEE ONE? PLEASE STATE THE WORD NEVER WAS IN BIG BOLD LETTERS. I'M SORRY IT WAS NOT BOLD, BUT IT WAS. IT WAS NEVER I HAVE I HAVE MET OKAY. I HAVE NEVER SEEN ONE. SO THEN DONALD HAD TO SAY THEY ARE AROUND ALL THE TIME. THE SIGNS ARE GREEN. I KNOW YOU ALWAYS WANT TO CREATE DIVISION IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PUT YOU IN MY CAR AND SHOW YOU, YOU KNOW? AND THEN YOU WENT ON. I DIDN'T EVEN RESPOND. I HAVEN'T HADN'T EVEN RESPONDED AS OF YET. WENT ON AGAIN, HE SAYS. IT'S HARD TO NOTICE THE POSITIVES WHEN YOU'RE ALWAYS SO NEGATIVE ON FACEBOOK.

LIFE'S TOO SHORT TO BE ON FACEBOOK 24 OVER SEVEN. I STILL HADN'T RESPONDED. I THINK REALLY RIDICULOUS THAT THE PRESIDENT OF STUDENT OR OF CITY COUNCIL SOUNDS LIKE CITY COUNCIL AT THIS POINT, THAT YOU TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY YOU DO, AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S THE SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT OUR CHARTER AMENDMENTS PASSED. THE STILLWATER, BUT IT JUST SEEMS

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THE TRUTH IS BASED ON PUBLIC RESPONSES AND EVEN THE CITY'S OWN FEEDBACK POLLS. IT'S CITY COUNCIL'S ACTIONS OR INACTION THAT ARE CREATING A DIVISION, NOT CITIZENS SPEAKING OUT. YOU WERE ELECTED TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE, NOT TALK DOWN TO THEM. IF I SPOKE TO A BOSS THE WAY YOU SPEAK TO CONCERNED CITIZENS, I'D BE FIRED. AND LET ME BE CLEAR. IF I DECIDE TO RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL, YOU MAY WANT TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT ME, BECAUSE I'M REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE WHO FEEL LIKE YOU'VE STOPPED LISTENING. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? HI, AMBER. DARST. I'M MARYSVILLE RESIDENT, AND I PROMISE THIS WILL BE ON A NON AGENDA ITEM.

BUT YOU GUYS FORGOT THE MOST IMPORTANT ITEM THAT I DIDN'T HEAR ANYBODY SPEAK ABOUT IT TONIGHT. DAIRY QUEEN'S OPEN. I THINK WE SHOULD ALL JUST ADJOURN AND GO TO DAIRY QUEEN. MAYBE WE COULD COOL OFF A LITTLE BIT. ANYWAY, I JUST I WANTED TO ASK YOU GUYS A QUESTION. I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY PROGRESS MADE TO ENGAGE THE APPROPRIATE EXPERTS. NOT SAYING THAT ANY OF YOU ARE NOT EXPERTS IN THIS ROOM, BUT ENGAGE ADDITIONAL EXPERTS TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH GROWTH THE MARYSVILLE, MARYSVILLE CITY AND SUBSEQUENTLY THE COUNTY CAN REALISTICALLY SUPPORT. I KNOW AT PREVIOUS MEETINGS WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT WATER. YOU GUYS HAVE HAD SOME EMAILS FROM ME ABOUT ELECTRICITY AND THOSE CONCERNS, AND THAT'S A CONCERN THAT'S HAPPENING. JUST IT'S NOT JUST HERE, IT'S STATEWIDE. PJM, WHICH IS THE GRID OPERATOR FOR OUR REGION OF THE UNITED STATES, IN THEIR ANNUAL REPORT THAT THEY PUT OUT IN JANUARY. I DON'T BELIEVE I SENT THAT TO YOU, BUT I HAVE READ THROUGH THESE REPORTS AND THEY'RE LONG REPORTS, AND I DON'T LIKE READING THROUGH THEM. THEY'RE BORING, BUT THEY HAVE A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KEEPS COMING UP AND IT'S BEEN HITTING THE HEADLINES A LOT LATELY, IS THAT THE ELECTRICITY IN OUR STATE IS WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE FACING SOME ROLLING BLACKOUTS AND SHORTAGES BY 2027. THAT IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER. THAT'S A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. I'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM SOME OF THE ELECTRIC COMPANIES WITHIN OUR STATE, AND IT IS A IT IS A PRETTY GRIM PICTURE. SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY NOT NECESSARILY THAT YOU'VE HAD TIME YET TO MAKE ANY PROGRESS MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. BUT AND THIS WILL BE A QUESTION THAT I ASK THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AS WELL. AND I KNOW TOM MCCARTHY VOICED IN SOME OF THOSE EMAILS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD, A GOOD THING FOR THE CITY TO START DOING IN THE COUNTY TO WORK TOGETHER ON THIS OF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I KNOW IT'S USUALLY NOT A BACK AND FORTH, BUT MAYBE YOU'RE ALREADY DOING THIS AND TELL ME TO BE QUIET IF YOU ALREADY ARE. BUT THESE GUYS ARE STATING THAT PJM SPECIFICALLY IS STATING THAT THESE SHORTAGES ARE GOING TO BE IN LARGE PART DUE TO THE MAJOR INFLUX OF DATA CENTERS AND LIKE INDUSTRIES THAT HOUSE AI COMING INTO OUR STATE. SO WE'RE JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT WHAT ARE THE PLANS TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY MORE RESILIENT AGAINST THESE FUTURE PROJECTIONS. AND I'M I'M BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A VERY LARGE COMPANY. WE ALL KNOW WHO THEY ARE. IT'S NEW ALBANY COMPANY COMING IN. THEY HAVE A TRACK RECORD. I'M NOT AGAINST NECESSARILY THEM COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY BIG PORTION OF OUR, OUR CITY THAT I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING 15 TO 20% DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH LAND THEY GET AHOLD OF THAT THEIR THEIR

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SO THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING. ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TONIGHT? OKAY.

THANK YOU ALL. HEARING NONE. WE'LL MOVE ON WITH TONIGHT'S AGENDA. RESOLUTIONS. ORDINANCES

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SO ANY COMMENTS WOULD APPLY TO BOTH OF THEM. I HEARD EARLIER ABOUT THE REQUEST FOR TABLING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME I ALSO HEARD THAT THERE WAS NOT A SATISFACTORY RESOLUTION FOUND BETWEEN PROPERTY OWNERS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN EITHER. EFFORTS BEING MADE TOWARDS SATISFYING THE NEIGHBORS TO THIS PROPERTY IN ONE FORM, WHETHER IT BE AN ORDINANCE A OR AN ORDINANCE B, YEAH, BUT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET A COMFORTABLE FEELING IF YOU KNOW THAT THE PROMISES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE HAVE NOT BEEN RESOLVED YET. SO THOSE THOSE ARE JUST MY ONLY COMMENTS ON ON THIS. IF IT DOES COME TO A VOTE REQUEST FOR VOTE. AND FORTUNATELY TWO WEEKS FROM NOW I WILL NOT BE PRESENT. I'LL BE WATCHING, OF COURSE, ONLINE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GET MY CONCERN EXPRESSED THAT I THINK IT IS A MUST. WE DID IT EARLIER WHEN WE HAD MARYSVILLE SOUTH. YEAH, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK THAT WENT INTO SATISFYING ALL THE NEIGHBORS. AND AS YOU REMEMBER AT THAT THIRD READING, NONE OF THE NEIGHBORS DID SHOW UP BECAUSE THERE WAS A SATISFACTORY RESULT. I DON'T HAVE THAT SAME SENSE TODAY. AND IT CONCERNS ME. THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY COMMENT THAT I HAVE ON THIS. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? IS THERE ANY. THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ADD IS THAT WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CONCERNS, MAJORITY OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HEAR FROM RESIDENTS ARE THE SAME AS WE HEARD IN BOSTON MEADOWS AND, AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING INTO TOWN. SO THE

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THANK YOU. DOES COUNCIL. MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE TO TABLE THIS TO JULY 28TH. ROLL CALL. MR. BURGER. YES. MR. HUNTER? YES. MR. RAINES YES, MISS KRAMER. YES, MR. WOLFE. YES. MR. BIRDY?

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OKAY. THAT IS MY MOTION. THANK YOU. ROLL CALL, PLEASE, MR. HUNTER. YES, MR. RAINES? YES, MISS KRAMER? YES, MR. WOLF. YES, MR. BURR. YES, MR. BURGER? YES. NEXT. YES. OKAY. ORDINANCE D,

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WE HAVE TWO. THE SITE PRIMARILY IS FARMLAND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A REALLY NICE TREE STAND UP IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER AND IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, BOTH OF WHICH WE'D LIKE TO PRESERVE. IF WE CAN. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP IN THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING IS KIND OF, HOW DID WE GET TO THE PUD OR OR WHY ARE WE HERE THIS WAY? SO I JUST WANT TO BACK UP A LITTLE BIT AND TALK ABOUT KIND OF OUR PROCESS AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE CONSIDERED. JUST SO YOU CAN KIND OF UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT TO THE PUD. THERE'S REALLY THREE WAYS FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROPERTY. ONE IS WE COULD TRY TO DEVELOP IT UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING. THE OTHER ONE IS WE COULD DO WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDS AND TRY TO APPROACH THE CITY TO REZONE THE SOUTHERN PORTION TO SRT TO MATCH THE NORTHERN PORTION AND DEVELOP IT THAT WAY. OR WE COULD GO THE PUD ROUTE. SO THE EXISTING ZONING, PART OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE WITH THE EXISTING ZONING IS THE DEVELOPMENT. NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SOME ROAD WIDENING TO BERGER ROAD. WE'VE GOT AS PART OF OUR TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THIS. WE'VE GOT SOME CONTRIBUTIONS POTENTIALLY TO THE ROUNDABOUT AT SOUTHARD AND MILFORD. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF COSTS ADDED TO THE PROJECT CREATE KIND OF AN ECONOMIC REALITY. WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO DIVIDE THOSE COSTS OVER A CERTAIN NUMBER OF LOTS. SO THE ONLY WAY WE COULD REALLY MAKE THIS WORK UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING IS TO TAKE THE NORTHERN PORTION, ZONED SRT, AND UNDER THE SRT. SO JUST EVERYBODY'S CLEAR. THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS 55FT AND 5500FT■!S. THAT'S THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE. SO IN ORDER TO GET THE KIND OF DENSITY WE NEED, WE WOULD NEED TO PACK THAT AS TIGHT AS WE POSSIBLY COULD TO GET THE DENSITY BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT OR THE AREA TO THE SOUTH IS, IS ARD THAT REQUIRES ONE ACRE LOTS. SO THE DEVELOPMENT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE END UP BACKWARDS FROM WHAT WE REALLY WANT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL OF THE SMALL LOTS IN THE MARYSVILLE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UP ALONG BERGER ROAD, RIGHT ACROSS FROM ALL OF THESE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE REALLY NICE, LARGE LOTS. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LARGE LOTS KIND OF IN THE BACK. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO. WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO IS CREATE A VERY HIGH END, CUSTOM SEMI-CUSTOM HOME BUILDER DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSES THAT ARE GOING TO START PROBABLY 800,000 AND GO ALL THE WAY UP TO A MILLION AND A HALF. THE OTHER PROBLEM WITH US DEVELOPING IT UNDER THE SRT AND THE ARD IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE, AGAIN, AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THOSE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE LESS, JUST LESS SENSITIVE TO KIND OF THE EXISTING TREES TO TRY TO MAKE AS MUCH USE OF THE SITE AS POSSIBLE. AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE US TO PAY FOR SOME TREE REPLACEMENT AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS. BUT WE HAVE TO WE WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT WORK. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO AGAIN IS DEVELOP IT IN A REALLY WELL THOUGHT OUT, REALLY PLANNED

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I'LL TRY UNPLUGGING AND REPLUGGING. YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT WAS IT. MAYBE IT WAS ME. MY APOLOGIES. SO YOU CAN SEE EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL OPEN SPACES, THE ONE UP IN THE UPPER LEFT CORNER. SO THIS ONE IS THE ONE KIND OF IN THE UPPER NORTHWEST. THIS OPEN SPACE IS ABOUT HALF AN ACRE. I THINK SOME QUESTIONS CAME UP ABOUT THE SIZE. SO THIS OPEN SPACE IS ABOUT 90FT BY 260FT. AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE HAVE DRAWN IN SOME BASIC SIZES OF DIFFERENT AMENITIES. JUST TO GIVE YOU KIND OF AN EXAMPLE OF HOW MUCH ROOM THOSE THINGS WOULD TAKE IF THEY WERE ADDED THERE.

NOW I WILL STATE AGAIN, I THINK IT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT THE INTENT FOR THE DEVELOPER, BECAUSE THESE ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY EXPENSIVE CUSTOM HOMES, IS TO ALLOW THOSE HOME BUYERS TO KIND OF DETERMINE WHAT AMENITIES THEY WANT IN THE DEVELOPMENT. AND SO THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO SEED THE HOA WITH SOME MONEY. AND THEN AS THOSE BUYERS COME IN AND START BUILDING THOSE CUSTOM HOMES, HE WANTS TO ALLOW THOSE BUYERS TO SAY THIS. THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE COMMUNITY, RATHER THAN JUST INSTALLING SOMETHING THAT HE THINKS PEOPLE MAY WANT. HE WANTS TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BUYING SO THAT THEY CAN GET THOSE INSTALLED. BUT WHAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A PLAYGROUND. SO THAT PINK AREA IS ESSENTIALLY THE AMOUNT OF AREA THAT A PLAYGROUND WOULD TAKE UP. AND THE ORANGE SQUARE IS A 20 BY 40 POTENTIAL SHELTER. SO THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT SIZE IS. AND THEN THAT SHOWS YOU THAT THERE'S A LOT OF A LOT OF AREA STILL LEFT OVER, EVEN IF THOSE AMENITIES ARE INSTALLED FOR PEOPLE TO WALK A DOG, YOU KNOW, THROW A FRISBEE, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THE OTHER AREA ITSELF IS A LITTLE BIT WIDER. SO ACTUALLY, NO, IT'S A LITTLE BIT IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, A LITTLE BIT SHORTER, BUT IT'S STILL PLENTY OF ENOUGH AREA TO ACCOMMODATE, YOU KNOW, A PLAYGROUND, A SHELTER, A GAZEBO, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU EVEN IF THEY DECIDED THEY WANTED A BASKETBALL COURT, YOU COULD FIT A BASKETBALL COURT IN THERE AND STILL HAVE ROOM LEFT OVER, STILL HAVE SOME GREEN SPACE LEFT OVER. AND THEN THE AND THEN THE OTHER OPEN SPACE. THE LARGER OPEN SPACE IS ABOUT 170FT BY 250FT. SO IT'S PRETTY LARGE. IT'S PRETTY WIDE OPEN. THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM IN THERE TO KICK A SOCCER BALL, YOU KNOW, DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAD KIND OF AN IDEA ON THE SIZES OF THOSE DIFFERENT SPACES. AND THEN OF COURSE THE MAIN CENTRAL OPEN SPACE. WE DIDN'T DO AN ENLARGEMENT OF THAT. BUT THAT MAIN CENTRAL OPEN SPACE IS WHERE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MOST OF THE RETENTION FUNCTIONS.

WE'RE GOING TO SURROUND THAT WITH AN ASPHALT MULTI-USE PATH WITH BENCHES. YOU KNOW, THE IDEA THERE IS TO MAKE THAT A REAL AMENITY FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT, WALK AROUND FROM KIND OF ANY DIRECTION IN THE DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT ALSO THEN WILL CONNECT TO THESE NATURE TRAILS IN THE WOODED AREA. AND SO THOSE TWO, THOSE TWO WOODED AREAS ARE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE PRESERVING THOSE TREES. AND THEN THE IDEA IS WE'RE GOING TO CREATE SOME PRIMITIVE PATHS THROUGH THOSE TREES. AND THE WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT ESSENTIALLY IS INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING A CONTRACTOR GO OUT THERE AND KIND OF START PAVING STUFF, WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT, WE'RE GOING TO WALK THE SITE. WE'RE GOING TO FIND WHERE THE TREES ARE, WHERE THE BEST VIEWS ARE, AND WE'RE GOING TO STAKE THE LOCATION OF THAT PATH SO THAT AS THEY GO THROUGH AND CREATE THAT TRAIL, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DISTURB A LOT OF THE ROOT SYSTEM. YOU KNOW, THEY CAN COME IN AND INSTALL THAT WITHOUT REALLY IMPACTING OR AFFECTING THOSE TREES, BECAUSE THOSE TREES, FROM OUR STANDPOINT, ARE VALUABLE TO THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. THEY'RE PART OF WHAT'S GOING TO MAKE THIS A REALLY DESIRABLE AS A CUSTOM HOME COMMUNITY. SAME THING ON THE SOUTH END, SAME IDEA, SAME APPROACH TO THE PAST IN THE DEVELOPMENT. AND AGAIN, ALL THAT CONNECTS UP TO KIND OF THE ASPHALT AREA. AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS DISCUSSED VERY MUCH, BUT I DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT KIND OF THE INTENT BEHIND THE ARCHITECTURE, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED IN MARYSVILLE QUITE A BIT IN TERMS OF THE ARCHITECTURE. SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF WE DON'T HAVE REGULAR BUILDERS, SO WE DON'T HAVE A

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THERE'S TWO MORE. THERE'S AN ENGLISH COUNTRY ELEVATION AND THERE'S A ITALIANATE ELEVATION.

SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE RANGE OF ARCHITECTURAL STYLES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE FOR THE CUSTOM HOMES. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT'S ALL OF THOSE ELEVATIONS ARE BASED ON ONE FOOTPRINT. SO THE IDEA IS THAT AS THE BUILDERS COME IN, AS THEY HAVE A BUYER THAT WANTS A HOME, YOU KNOW, AND THEY GET A LOT, THEY WILL COME TO US WITH A FOOTPRINT AND AN ELEVATION. AND THAT ELEVATION HAS TO MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED. AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO SET UP AN INTERNAL, NOT NOT WE, BECAUSE JUST THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO SET UP AN INTERNAL DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. SO WHEN EACH OF THESE LOTS COME IN, THE DEVELOPER'S GOING TO PREVIEW IT FIRST BEFORE IT EVER GOES TO PERMIT TO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE SO THAT THE DEVELOPER CAN ENSURE THAT IT MEETS THEIR STANDARDS, BECAUSE, AGAIN, THEY WANT TO PROTECT THE VALUE FOR ALL THE OTHER LOTS THAT THEY'RE STILL SELLING. AND SO THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO ESTABLISH THEIR OWN INTERNAL REVIEW PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE IN THAT, YOU KNOW, HIGH END CUSTOM SEMI-CUSTOM RANGE. SO THAT'S THE DESIGN KIND OF DETAILS OF THE APPLICATION, I THINK THAT ADDRESSES SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD BEFORE. WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. I HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF THE TECHNICAL DRAWINGS IN HERE IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THEM, BUT I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THEM ONCE, AND I TEND TO RAMBLE ON AND ON. SO I'M ASSUMING YOU GUYS PROBABLY WANT TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS. THE PUBLIC MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK AS WELL. THE NEXT UP TO SPEAK IS CITIZENS. IS THERE ANY CITIZENS TONIGHT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS, ON WHAT YOU JUST HEARD? YES. OKAY. COME UP TO THE FRONT. CAN CAN THEY USE THE BACK PODIUM, WHICHEVER ONE YOU WOULD LIKE TO USE, SIR, YOU CAN USE THE BACK ONE OR THE FRONT ONE RIGHT HERE IF YOU'D LIKE. IF YOU'RE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THERE AND YOU CAN JUST STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE. SCHULZE, 18, 606 BURGER ROAD, MARYSVILLE, OHIO. AND JUST TO MAKE THINGS CLEAR, I'M A RETIRED ATTORNEY, AND WHEN I WAS AN ACTIVE PRACTICE, I REPRESENTED THE DEVELOPER HERE.

SO I KNOW, BY THE WAY, I'M GOING TO TELL A QUICK STORY ON THIS BECAUSE NOW, CAN I HAVE YOU JUST MOVE? MR. SCHULTZ, CAN I JUST HAVE YOU MOVE THE PODIUM? JUST PUSH THE MIC UP A LITTLE BIT.

THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. FOR YEARS, HE THREATENED ME WITH PUTTING IN A TRAILER PARK OR SUBSIDIZED HOUSING, KNOWING THAT, OF COURSE, MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED FOR 47 YEARS, RIGHT ON BERGER ROAD THERE, AND MY WIFE IS QUITE THE ARTIST ON THE ON THE LOT AND EVERYTHING.

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IT PROVIDED A PLACE FOR MY WIFE TO WALK AROUND OFF THE STREET AND SO ON. AND WE KNOW THAT IF THIS OR WHEN THIS GOES IN, WHY, WE WILL WISH WE COULD KIND OF LOOK OUT OVER THE FIELD, BUT WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A QUALITY TYPE OF, OF ENTERPRISE. AND THEREFORE I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I MY ONE QUESTION IS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S ANSWERED THIS BEFORE, BUT WAS THE EXIT FROM THE. FROM THE END NEAR SOUTHERN OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT NEAR MY DRIVEWAY. AND I WANTED TO KNOW HOW FAR IS IT? SO WHEN WE'RE BACKING OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY, WHAT DO WE DEAL WITH? WE DID MOVE IT. OKAY, AS YOU REQUESTED, AND I APOLOGIZE. I'M NOT. YEAH, WE CAN WE YOU CAN ANSWER THAT WHEN IT GETS TO COUNCIL'S COMMENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. REALLY? THEN THAT'S THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. DENNIS. WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK TONIGHT? OH, OKAY. I'M A BURGER WILLIAM BURGER. YOU TOUCHED ON THE I FORGET HOW YOU HOW YOU PUT IT ABOUT EXPANDING BURGER ROAD OR WIDENING IT. COULD YOU EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT TO LET US KNOW? AND WHEN WOULD THE WIDENING BE DONE BEFORE, DURING OR AFTER? A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS HAVE ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED? OR IN OTHER WORDS, THE TIMELINE ON THAT. AND WITH THE WIDENING BE ON BOTH SIDES OF BURGER ROAD. ONE SIDE, DOES IT START AT SOUTHERN AND GO UP TO 38, OR HOW THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE WIDENING OF BURGER ROAD, CAN YOU THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE ON? OKAY.

I THINK, GAIL, I SAW YOU IN THE BACK. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. DOES ANYBODY UP THERE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE HOMETOWN AUTO PARKING? THEY'RE TEARING IT DOWN. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO BUILD THERE? I, I THIS IS JUST NOT THE TIME WE WHERE WE ANSWER THAT. OKAY. BUT LET ME SAY THIS I CAN IN DURING THE CALL OF COUNCIL TONIGHT WHEN IT GETS TO THE CITY MANAGER, I'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE'RE AT ON THE HOMETOWN AUTO SITE. SO THAT SO THAT WILL BE AT THE COMMENTS OF CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL PERSONS AND MORE. ANSWER YOUR QUESTION FOR YOU. OKAY? OKAY. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. OKAY. THAT'S FINE WITH ALL THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS BEING BUILT, ARE WE GOING TO BUILD ANOTHER HIGH SCHOOL? THAT'S I THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION I CAN'T ANSWER BECAUSE IT'S NOT RELATED TO THE AGENDA. I'M SORRY GAIL. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. IT'S JUST IT. WE CAN'T DRIVE THROUGH TOWN NOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WHEN WE GET ALL THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? THANK YOU. SURE. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE BEHALF OF THE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT? OKAY. HEARING NONE, I'LL OPEN THE DOOR TO COUNCIL. IS THERE ANYBODY I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT. SO THERE WERE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT. THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND THE DRIVE LOCATION. COULD YOU GO OVER THOSE. YES, SURE. SO WE INITIALLY IN OUR INITIAL APPLICATION WE INITIALLY HAD AND HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY CAN SEE THIS ON BOTH SCREENS. YEAH. YEP. OKAY OKAY. SO WE INITIALLY HAD THE DRIVE COMING IN HERE WHICH WAS RIGHT ACROSS FROM MR. SCHULTZ'S DRIVEWAY. I DO WANT TO REITERATE, I DON'T THINK MR. SCHULTZ SAID IT, BUT THE TRAILER PARK THING WAS IN JEST, I HOPE.

I HOPE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT. SUBDIVISION IS BUILT IN. OKAY, OKAY. SO WE INITIALLY HAD IT HERE, MR. SCHULTZ. IT WAS TOO CLOSE TO HIS DRIVEWAY. AND IT BASICALLY CAME KIND OF RIGHT INTO HIS HOUSE. IF YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE HIS IS THE CORNER OF HIS HOUSE IS RIGHT HERE. MR. SCHULTZ ASKED US TO MOVE THE DRIVEWAY OVER SO THAT ESSENTIALLY THE CARS WOULD COME

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ERIC. OKAY. FROM STUDYING THIS, THIS IS NOT THE SAME MAP THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECEIVED. NOW, IF I IF MEMORY SERVES ME, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR MAYBE A YEAR. THERE WAS A CONCEPTUAL PLAN. THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN. THE NEIGHBORS ASKED FOR SOME ADJUSTMENTS. AND THEN YOU DID COME UP WITH THE 100FT AND WHICH THEY WERE VERY GRATEFUL FOR. I DID SPEAK WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND GOT THE IDEA. SO LET ME KIND OF WALK THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION FIRST, BECAUSE THEY MADE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO BE PART OF THIS. OKAY. AND IN THEIR COMMENTS WERE IT SAID AT LANGUAGE TO THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SECTION REGARDING SHEDS WHERE THEY WILL BE PERMITTED OR NOT. OKAY, WE DID ADD THAT. OKAY, THAT'S IN THE TEXT. YEAH. BUT IN THE IN THE LETTER THAT YOU WROTE, ACCOMPLICE ACCOMPANIED THIS. IT SAID AT THE DISCUSSION OF HOA. SO NOW WE DON'T KNOW. IT'S WHO'S WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. YEAH I THINK I MIGHT BE ABLE TO LET ME SEE IF I CAN OPEN UP THE TEXT, AND I MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU.

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NUMBER TWO. AND I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN HUNT HUNTER MENTIONED THIS EARLIER. AND THE REQUEST BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS REVIEWED. THE CUL DE SAC TO SEE IF AN ISLAND CAN BE ADDED. AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WERE SATISFIED WITH THE ANSWER FROM TWO WEEKS AGO. I'M STILL NOT EXCITED ABOUT IT, BUT IT AND NEITHER WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO IF TWO OF US WERE NOT IN FAVOR OF IT AND WE, FOLLOWING THE REQUEST FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION NOT IN FAVOR OF THE ISLAND OR NO, WE WERE IN FAVOR OF THE ISLAND, WE DID INCLUDE AN ISLAND. WE DID INCLUDE AN ISLAND. YES. OKAY. SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S DONE AND TAKEN CARE OF. YES. OKAY.

PERFECT. IT ALSO REQUESTS ADD GREEN SPACE AND PERHAPS TO LOT 64 OR SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE SECTION. AND I THINK ON YOUR NEW MAP. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE MAP THAT I WAS READING ON WAS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SEE, WHAT YOU GAVE US OUT HERE. YEP. AND WE DID. WE TOOK SO THE TWO, THE TWO LOTS THAT THEY ASKED US TO TAKE OUT ARE CIRCLED THERE IN RED. AND WE TOOK THOSE LOTS OUT TO MAKE AN OPEN SPACE. OKAY. GOT IT. SO WE HAVE THAT ONE. JUST JUST TO BE CLEAR, WHEN WE WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE ACQUIESCED TO ALL BUT ONE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S REQUESTS. THE ONLY THING THAT WE DID NOT INCLUDE BECAUSE WE INCLUDED THE OPEN SPACE, THE ONLY THING THAT WE DID NOT INCLUDE WAS HAVING A CUT THROUGH CONNECTION HERE.

THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE REQUEST THAT WE SAID WE MADE. WHEN YOU DID THAT, WHERE WAS THE CONNECTION? RIGHT. RIGHT HERE BETWEEN THESE TWO LOTS. OKAY. AND THAT CONVERSATION CAME ABOUT IN HAVING PEOPLE BE ABLE TO GET ACCESS TO THE GREEN SPACE, ACTUALLY UP IN THE RIGHT HAND CORNER. THEIR CONCERN WAS THAT WHAT THEY WHAT THEY WANTED WAS POTENTIALLY A CONNECTION HERE, SO THAT PEOPLE WHO LIVED OVER HERE DIDN'T HAVE TO WALK UP OVER AND THEN BACK DOWN, AND THEN ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE OPEN SPACE CONNECTION. WHAT WE DID INSTEAD WAS WE JUST SAID, WE'LL PUT AN OPEN SPACE CONNECTION HERE SO THAT YOU CAN WALK UP AND OVER AND GET DIRECTLY INTO THE OPEN SPACE. THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS SATISFIED WITH THAT. OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE HERE IT SAYS REVIEW THE ACCESS POINTS TO THE POND TO SOUTHWEST, PERHAPS REMOVING THE ACCESS POINT BETWEEN LOT 57 AND 58. AGAIN OF THE OLD MAP, NOT OF THE CURRENT MAP. YEAH, YEAH. AND WHAT SO WHAT WE DID WAS I THINK THEIR CONCERN WAS THAT OPEN SPACE CONNECTION WAS TOO SMALL. SO THEY ASKED US TO MOVE SOME THINGS AROUND. AND WE ACTUALLY MADE THIS OPEN SPACE A LITTLE LARGER. THIS OPEN SPACE STAYS BECAUSE IT'S WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT. BUT REALLY IT'S AN EASEMENT. SO WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT BY FOR CREATING ANOTHER CONNECTION TO THE PARK.

SO WE COULDN'T REALLY CHANGE ANYTHING THERE. AND THEN YOU KNOW WE HAVE THE OPEN SPACE CONNECTION HERE. SO WE HAVE SEVERAL WAYS INTO THE PARK FROM EACH SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

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AND IF YOU LOOK AT 1135 .06 COMMON OPEN SPACES, THE INTERPRETATION, THE INTENT OF THE COMMON OPEN SPACES IS TO PROVIDE SPACE BETWEEN AND AMONG BUILDING STRUCTURES FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES AND OR ESTHETIC AMENITY. NOW, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE GREEN SPACE THAT WOULD DOES THAT SERVE THAT PURPOSE? YEAH. AS FAR AS YEAH, IT IS ESTHETIC, BUT I LIVE NEXT TO MACGYVER WOOD. YEAH. AND I DON'T SEE YOUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION EVER PUT THE MONEY IN TO KEEP THE TRAIL CLEAR. AND I CAN SEE THAT GOING AWAY AT SOME POINT IN TIME. SO IS YOUR INTENT THAT ALL OF THE GREEN SPACE THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE, YOU CONSIDER THAT COMMUNITY OPEN SPACE WHERE THE COMMUNITY COMES TOGETHER OR ALL OF THAT, THE TREED AREAS, YOU KNOW, THE NATURAL PATHS, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. IT'S ALL GOING TO BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOA FOR THE USE OF EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY. SO ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY CAN, YOU KNOW, GET ON THE WALKING TRAILS AROUND THE POND, THE WALKING TRAILS IN THE OPEN SPACES CAN USE THE TWO PARK SPACES. YEAH, THAT'S ALL FOR AND I DO LOVE THE OPEN SPACE. WE HAD A SIMILAR SITUATION WITH EWING MEADOWS. I REMEMBER THAT TEN YEARS AGO, AND WE LITERALLY REDESIGNED IT. AND WHEN I DROVE BY THERE YESTERDAY MORNING AT 9:00, THERE WAS SEVERAL PEOPLE WALKING AROUND. THERE WERE CHILDREN PLAYING ON THE PLAYGROUND, AND THERE WASN'T. THERE WAS A COMMON AREA. I DID THE REZONING FOR EWING MEADOWS. OKAY. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR. YOU SHOULD BE VERY FAMILIAR. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR OUT HERE. YEAH. BECAUSE YOU WERE VERY VAGUE ON SAYING THAT. WHO IS GOING TO DO WHAT? YEAH. YOU SAID THERE IS A PLACE FOR A PLAYGROUND. YEAH.

NOW IT'S A DEVELOPER GOING TO PUT IN A PLAYGROUND OR AGAIN, THE HOA. YEAH. IT'S I'M NOT TRYING TO BE VAGUE. VERY, VERY SPECIFICALLY. THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE HOA. OKAY. TO DETERMINE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS THEY WANT AND GET THEM INSTALLED. OKAY. BUT THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO GET THE FEEDBACK OF THE BUYERS BECAUSE AGAIN, THESE ARE GOING TO BE VERY EXPENSIVE HOMES. THIS ISN'T LIKE A TRADITIONAL BUILDER. THAT'S THAT IS REACHING OUT TO KIND OF THE EVERYDAY BUYER. RIGHT. THEY'RE NOT DEVELOPING SOMETHING THAT HAS KIND OF A PREDETERMINED PACKAGE LIKE PULTE MIGHT OR D.R. HORTON MIGHT THAT SAYS, THIS IS WHAT WE PUT IN OUR COMMUNITIES, RIGHT? THEY'RE SELLING 800,000 MILLION AND A HALF HOMES. THEY WANT TO HEAR FROM THE BUYERS WHAT THEY WANT. SO THE IDEA IS TO PUT SEED MONEY INTO THE HOA AND THEN BUILD THOSE IMPROVEMENTS BASED ON WHAT THE CLIENTS WANT. SO THAT'S VERY SPECIFICALLY NOT TRYING TO BE VAGUE THAT THAT IS WHAT THE DEVELOPER INTENDS TO DO. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT OUT HERE, YOU KIND OF THREW ME A LOOP WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT THE TOP SECTION, WHICH COVERS MAYBE 25 HOMES, IS IN THE MARYSVILLE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS IN THE FAIRBANKS.

CORRECT. OKAY. SO WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE THE CITY HASN'T GOTTEN INTO THE USE OF DOING ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT. WHAT IS THIS COMMUNITY GOING TO MEAN? YEAH. SO LET ME ASK YOU FIRST, IS ALL OF THIS ALREADY INCORPORATED IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE? YES. IT IS. NO ANNEXATION REQUIRED. OKAY. SO IF YOU IF YOU'RE DOING $800,000 HOMES, WE CAN ANTICIPATE THE INCOME TO BE MINIMUM 200,000 TO 250,000. IS THAT AN ASSUMPTION? I'M NOT A MORTGAGE EXPERT, BUT THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT. IT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT. YEAH, YEAH. WELL, WORKING WITH WHAT'S BEEN GIVEN TO US, THAT'S ALL THAT I COULD COME UP WITH. SO FOR THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, OKAY, YOU'RE REQUESTING THE STREETS ARE GOING TO BE DED HAVE TO MAINTAIN. YEAH.

OBVIOUSLY WATER IS AVAILABLE EVENT. SO IS BUILDABLE. TRASH IS BUILDABLE. STORMWATER IS BUILDABLE. SO THE ONLY THING THAT YOU REQUEST FROM THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE IS SAFETY

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WELL AND SO NO, NO. AND I DO WANT TO FINISH BECAUSE FOR THE LONGEST TIME THIS COUNCIL HAS SAID EVERY DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO PAY FOR ITSELF. OKAY. EVERY DEVELOP. AND IN THIS CASE I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT YES, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL PAY FOR THE CITY EXPENSES. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IT AT LARGE, I THINK THAT BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED, WE'RE GOING TO BE AT LEAST 1 MILLION TO 1 MILLION AND A HALF SHORT AT COMPLETION FOR THE STUDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. AND HOW HOW DO YOU INTEND THE COMMUNITY OF MARYSVILLE AND THE FAIRBANK COMMUNITY TO DEAL WITH THAT? YEAH. WELL, SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO POINT OUT, THE 253 STUDENTS ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT ALL GOING TO THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE SCHOOL. SO WHEN I WHEN I WROTE THAT, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THERE WAS A DIVIDING LINE THERE FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO THE DIVIDING LINE, JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S BENEFIT, THE DIVIDING LINE IS RIGHT ABOUT HERE. SO THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE'S IMPACT IS GOING TO BE JUST THESE LOTS TO THE NORTH OF THAT DIVIDING LINE. AND THAT'S ANOTHER REASON FOR US TO WANT TO HAVE THE LARGER LOTS UP ALONG BERGER ROAD, INSTEAD OF DEVELOPING THAT IN THE SRT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY THE ZONING, BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE EVEN MORE IMPACT ON THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE SCHOOLS, I'M SURE. SO BEYOND THAT, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HOMES THAT ARE PROVIDING A SIGNIFICANT TAX BENEFIT TO THE SCHOOLS AT BETWEEN 800,000 AND 1 MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS. THAT'S A LOT MORE TAXES THAT ARE GOING TO THE SCHOOLS IN PROPERTY TAX THAN WOULD CURRENTLY GO IF THOSE WERE, YOU KNOW, FIVE, $600,000 HOMES. SO THAT'S REALLY THE IMPACT OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS PROVIDING THESE LARGE CUSTOM HOMES FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE INTO. BUT THERE ISN'T ANYTHING ADDITIONAL IN TERMS IF YOU'RE ASKING IF THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR THE SCHOOLS, THERE ISN'T ANYTHING ADDITIONAL THAT'S BEING PROPOSED. OKAY. AND THEN. I HAVE ONE. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION YOU. YOU MENTIONED THE COST PER STUDENT. CORRECT. BUT PART OF THE FUNDING COME FROM STATE AND FEDERAL. SO THE LOCAL CONTRIBUTION IS NOT 13,000. IT'S A LOT LESS THE I THOUGHT I HAD THE NUMBERS WITH ME ACTUALLY, BUT OKAY. IT'S NOT IN THIS. BUT YOU HAD A COMMENT ON THAT. YEAH.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES HERE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE NORMALLY DON'T DISCUSS FAIRBANKS SCHOOL DISTRICT. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'VE HAD IN THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT, AT LEAST SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. THIS HAS BEEN PART OF THE DISCUSSION. SO OBVIOUSLY THIS LAND I WOULD ASSUME IS OBVIOUSLY MOSTLY COVERED GROUND CURRENTLY. YEAH. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, EXCEPT FOR THE WOODED PARTS AND EVEN THOSE MAY BE COVERED IN TERMS OF LIKE FOREST MANAGEMENT OR SO FORTH. SO OBVIOUSLY, YES, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES. THESE ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY EXPENSIVE HOMES,

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SO I JUST KIND OF WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NUMBERS THAT APPLY TO MARYSVILLE AND ALSO TO FAIRBANKS SCHOOLS. YEAH. BECAUSE FROM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT NOT ONLY I CAN ASSUME THAT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE BELOW THAT LINE, THEY PAY THE NORMAL 1.5%. BUT THE FACT THAT THE CHILDREN, THAT THE CHILDREN SOUTH OF THAT LINE, THEY GET AN EXTRA, I DON'T WANT TO CALL A PENALTY, BUT THEY HAVE AN EXTRA 7/10. SO THE KATHY WHO I TRUST IN THIS MATTER, IT'S 1%.

ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY THIS IS WHY NOT TO TRUST I. BECAUSE I DID A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH AND I DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO CHECK IT. IT'S AT 0.75, SO DON'T TRUST THE I. I NEVER TRUST IT, BUT OKAY.

GOT IT IN A HURRY. THERE YOU GO. SO IT'S 1% OKAY. SO YES, I MEAN I THINK IT'D BE VERY UNFAIR TO CALL IT A PENALTY. I DON'T THINK FAIRBANKS WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. BUT YES, THE ANYONE THAT WOULD BE IN THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE 1% EARNED INCOME TAX, REGARDLESS IF THEY PAY CITY OF MARYSVILLE TAX, IT BEHOOVES THEM TO LIVE IN MARYSVILLE PART RATHER THAN TO LIVE IN FAIRBANKS PART. BUT OBVIOUSLY THEY MAY LIKE THE FAIRBANKS SCHOOL DISTRICT. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. AGAIN, WE'RE MAKING SOME ASSUMPTIONS HERE. I'M JUST TRYING TO FAIRBANKS SCHOOLS WOULD BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. THEY WOULD BE VERY SUPPORTIVE. OKAY. I HAVE ONE FINAL ONE. ALL RIGHT. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONE THROUGH NINE ARE THE ONES ON THE TOP. AND THEN UNDERNEATH IT IT SAYS A PRIVATE ALLEY. AND WHEN IT SAYS THAT THAT ALWAYS MAKES THE HAIRS ON MY BACK STAND UP BECAUSE WE HAVE EVEN CITY OWNED ALLEYS, HE DOESN'T HAVE THAT MANY JUST SO WE'RE ALL CLEAR. THEY THEY ARE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY ARE A DISGRACE. BUT THEN AGAIN, WE HAVE 150 TO 200 YEARS OF HISTORY. BUT I'M ANYTIME WHEN, WHEN BY THE WAY, WHO'S GOING TO DO SNOW PLOWING? IF THE OWNERS ASSOCIATION WILL HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN. AND THE OWNERS ASSOCIATION DOES REALIZE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO ESTABLISH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. SO THEY BETTER KNOW. OKAY. BUT I WOULD THINK DON'T THINK ABOUT THAT LIKE AN ALLEY LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE DOWNTOWN. THIS IS GOING TO BE ESSENTIALLY A LARGE DRIVEWAY, AND IT'S GOING TO ONLY SERVE LOTS TWO THROUGH NINE AND LOTS TEN THROUGH 19. AND THE REASON WE HAVE TO HAVE IT IS BECAUSE WE CANNOT LOAD DRIVEWAYS ONTO BURGER. SO IT'S OUR ONLY OPTION IS TO IS TO PUT THAT IT'S BASICALLY A COMMON ACCESS DRIVE IS REALLY WHAT IT IS. BUT IT'S JUST WE DECIDED TO PUT IT IN THE BACK INSTEAD OF IN THE FRONT OF THE LOTS. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT I COULD COME UP WITH. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH ERIC. YOU'RE WELCOME.

APPRECIATE IT. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I HAVE SOME COMMENTS. SO I'M GOING TO COMMENT ON THIS DEVELOPMENT. BUT MAYBE PERHAPS JUST COMMENT SOME OF THE OVERALL COMMENTS WE HEARD TONIGHT. I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT THERE HAVE BEEN DEVELOPMENTS, MULTIPLE DEVELOPMENTS, RESIDENTIAL THAT I VOTED NO ON SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.

THERE'S BEEN MANY THAT HAVE WERE APPROVED BEFORE ME THAT I HADN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE NO, BUT I WOULD HAVE. AND THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, MY PREFERENCE, MY OPINION. WE ALL HAVE OPINIONS. AND I SAY THAT WITH SENSITIVITY TO THOSE WHO LIVE THERE, BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE

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AND I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE COME IN, YOU KNOW, SOME WOULD EVEN ARGUE THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN THAT DID GET REFERENDUM AND SOME, SOME PEOPLE HAD CONCERNS THAT THERE WASN'T ADEQUATE BUFFERING. BUT I APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION IN THAT DEVELOPMENT, THE CONSIDERATION THAT YOU HAD GIVEN FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT TO KIND OF CONSIDER BUFFERING EXISTING PARCELS AND ENSURING CONTINUITY. I THINK THERE WAS A I MAY NOT MENTIONED ALL THREE. MAYBE THE THIRD ONE IS THE PUD IN WHICH YOU COME HERE BEFORE.

SO YOU HAD SORRY, LET ME BACK UP HERE. SO EXIST KEEP THE EXISTING SRT ARD SPLIT. IT WASN'T IDEAL.

PROPOSED ZONING IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR COMP PLAN, WHICH I TRIED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS COMMENT IN OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS OUR COMP PLAN SAYS THIS ENTIRE PARCEL. IF WE WERE TO DEVELOP I, COMPREHENSIVE GUIDELINES SAYS SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL TYPE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH DOES INCREASE YOUR DENSITY IN THIS OVERALL DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN THERE'S PUD, WHICH IS BASICALLY CUSTOMIZED ZONING. THERE'S A FOURTH, MAYBE ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IS NO DEVELOPMENT AT ALL. BUT SOMEONE HERE IS A LANDOWNER. SOMEONE HERE IS HAS AN INTEREST IN SEEING THIS DEVELOP.

CERTAINLY THERE IS HOUSING DEMAND IN OHIO, CENTRAL OHIO, ESPECIALLY HOUSING DEMAND SEEMS TO BE THROUGH THE ROOF. I WOULDN'T SEE THIS NOT BEING DEVELOPED. SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT THIS PUD, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS OF CITY STAFF FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND TALKING THROUGH WHAT CAN WE DO TO SEE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS BEING MORE IN LINE, MORE IN LINE WITH ATTRIBUTES THAT WILL COMPLEMENT THE CITY, COMPLIMENT OUR VISION STATEMENT OF WELL-PLANNED NEIGHBORHOODS. I BELIEVE MANY OF THE FACTORS THAT YOU HAVE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND INCORPORATED INTO THIS PLAN DO THAT. SOME WOULD ARGUE, AND YOU COULD ALSO POINT TO SOME PAGES OF OUR COMP PLAN, SAY, THAT CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS, WHICH ARE LARGER LOTS, ARE AN INEFFICIENT USE OF LAND, AND YOU CAN MAKE THAT ARGUMENT ON ANY DEVELOPMENT. IF YOU HAVE TWO BIG OF LOTS. IT'S NOT AN EFFICIENT USE OF LAND, AND WE WANT TO BE AN EFFICIENT USERS OF LAND. I THINK THAT THE LOT SIZES HERE STRIKE A GOOD BALANCE. THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT, HAVE WE CONSIDERED WHETHER OR NOT DEVELOPMENT CAN BE A, YOU KNOW, CAN CAN WE ACCOMMODATE THAT? WE'RE NOT A UTILITY CAN ACCOMMODATE IT FROM A VIEWPOINT OF CAN WE PROVIDE WATER, ELECTRICITY, SEWER. AND IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, THIS IS NOT A LARGE DEVELOPMENT COMPARED TO SOME OF THE ONES THAT HAVE COME BEFORE US. THIS IS 190 UNITS. I THINK SOME THAT HAVE COME THROUGH US HAVE BEEN OVER 600. SO THIS IS A THIRD OF THAT SIZE.

BUT THIS DEVELOPMENT GOES THROUGH A PROCESS. THERE'S A TRAFFIC STUDY INVOLVED. THERE'S CONSIDERATION OF OUR WATER MASTER PLAN, OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, OUR COMP PLAN, A FACILITY.

THE SCHOOLS HAVE FACILITIES, MASTER PLANS. I UNDERSTOOD MARYSVILLE DID THIS SOMEWHAT RECENTLY. THEY'RE LOOKING AT HOW TO ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO WANT TO MOVE HERE AND ACCOUNT FOR THE GROWTH. I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A RESPONSIBLE WAY TO APPROACH DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THERE ARE IRRESPONSIBLE WAYS. THERE ARE GOOD INTENTIONS WITH SOMETIMES POOR RESULTS. THERE ARE GOOD INTENTIONS WITH SUCCESSFUL RESULTS. MY HOPE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS YIELDS SOME SUCCESS, AND I DO APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS BY OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS WHO VOLUNTEER SO MUCH OF THEIR TIME TO, WELL, TO PREPARE AND READ LARGE PACKETS OF INFORMATION. BUT ANYWAYS, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. I AM A KID WHO GREW UP NEXT TO A PATCH OF TREES. WE CALL THEM

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STAFF IS ALWAYS VERY ACCOMMODATING WITH THEIR TIME. WE GOT A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ALWAYS, SINCE I'VE BEEN WORKING IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY THOUGHTFUL IN HOW THEY APPROACH PROJECTS. THE EXPERTISE ON THAT BOARD, YOU KNOW, I THINK LENDS A LOT TO THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. SO THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY ABOUT THAT. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. JUST TO ADD TO WHAT COUNCILMAN HUNTER SAID, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, ONE THING I APPRECIATE IS THAT IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW AN ANSWER, YOU SAID, I DON'T KNOW. AND THAT FOR YOU OR ANY OTHER DEVELOPER, IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, I THINK THAT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. I'D RATHER YOU GET BACK TO ME LATER, OR REALIZE THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THAT CAN BE ANSWERED. SO I THINK THAT'S I DO APPRECIATE THAT. AND TO ADD ON TO COUNCILMAN HUNTER, WHEN HE SPOKE ABOUT COMPLIMENTING THE CITY, WE ARE COMING OFF OUR PARKS AND REC MEETING WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH THESE GREEN SPACES AND CONNECTIVITY AND TRAILS. BUT A BIG TOPIC WAS HOW DO WE MAINTAIN THESE? AND THAT'S COSTLY. SO ONE THING I SEE A VALUE HERE AND WE HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR IS THESE GREEN SPACES. BUT LOOKING AT THAT, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM YOU, THIS IS A COMMUNITY ASSET OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. THAT WOULD BE NOT A COST TO THE TAXPAYERS IN MAINTAINING. SO, YOU KNOW, JUST I THINK MOVING FORWARD, THESE TYPES OF ASSETS THAT WE AS A COUNCIL HAVE THESE CHALLENGES OF HOW CAN WE PROVIDE AMENITIES AND PAY FOR THOSE AND DEVELOPMENT PAYING FOR ITSELF. AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, A COMMUNITY BENEFIT THAT IS APPRECIATED. I ALSO THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE PARCELS AND THEIR EXISTING RESOURCES OR TREE STANDS OR HOW THAT HOW THE ENVIRONMENT IS, WHETHER IT BE WATER ISSUES AND THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS INDIVIDUALLY AND SAYING, HOW CAN WE COMPLEMENT THE EXISTING RESOURCES AND PROTECT THE EXISTING RESOURCES WHEN WE CAN? SO THOSE ARE OH, AND THEN ONE MORE THING INDIRECTLY RELATED TO SOME COMMENTS THAT CAME UP TONIGHT. MR. SCHULTZ WAS HERE. AND, YOU KNOW, HE'S CLEARLY ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS. I'VE SEEN SOME OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE MINUTES OF PLANNING COMMISSION WHERE THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS, SOME FAVORABLE INPUT, AND TO THE CITIZEN COMMENT EARLIER IN THAT WE KNOW WE CAN'T ALL ATTEND MEETINGS OR ALWAYS PARTICIPATE OR ALWAYS KNOW ABOUT THINGS. DO YOU HAVE A GOOD FEEL FOR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T SOUGHT YOU OUT TO BE ENGAGED, BUT YOU KNOW THAT ANY CONCERNS OF SURROUNDING CITIZENS HAVE BEEN THOROUGHLY ADDRESSED, AND THAT THEY'RE AWARE ENOUGH OF WHAT'S HAPPENING TO HAVE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY. IT'S OBVIOUSLY VERY HARD FOR ME TO SAY IF EVERYBODY WHO HASN'T SPOKEN, IF WE WOULD HAVE ADDRESSED THEIR CONCERNS IN ANY DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO WOULD OBVIOUSLY LOVE THIS TO JUST STAY A FIELD. THAT'S JUST A FACT OF LIFE. AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 32 YEARS. I'VE

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WE CHANGED THE NAME OF THE DEVELOPMENT. YOU KNOW, HIS CONCERN WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, HE HAD A FAMILY LEGACY, I THINK, AND JUST DIDN'T WANT TO SEE THIS PROJECT NAMED THAT WAY. AND SO WE CHANGED THE NAME OF THE DEVELOPMENT. SO WE HAVE WE ANSWERED EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS, I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS AS CERTAINLY AS MANY AS WE CAN, AND WE DO FEEL LIKE WE'VE COME UP WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE SOLUTION BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO DEVELOP AT SOME POINT IN TIME. THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO IT? AND I THINK WE'VE PUT IT TOGETHER IN THE RIGHT WAY. I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? HEARING NONE. I JUST WANTED TO STATE A COUPLE. YOU KNOW, TONIGHT YOU'VE HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CITY'S VISIONING, AND THE CITY HAS BEEN IN THE TRENCHES ON VISIONING MARYSVILLE. AND LET ME LET ME REMIND YOU THAT FOR ME AND I KNOW I'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CRITICIZE ME. BUT FOR MY DEGREE IN PLANNING, I NOT ONLY THINK ABOUT THE HERE AND NOW, BUT I THINK ABOUT THE 20, 30, 40 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WHEN I'M LONG GONE AND HOW MARYSVILLE IS DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE. AND THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT IT WAS CRUCIAL THAT THIS COMMUNITY, WHEN THEY ELECTED ME AND THIS COUNCIL, APPOINTED ME TO THIS POSITION AS PRESIDENT AND ALSO MAYOR OF THIS COMMUNITY, I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THIS COUNCIL CREATES A CREATES LEGISLATION TO HELP ENACT A VISION WHERE WE'RE AT, WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO CREATE A VISION BECAUSE EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT SMALL TOWN. WELL, WE DON'T DEFINE IT. AND WHAT IS IT? AND EVERYBODY DOESN'T WANT HOMES, BUT THEY WANT A TARGET. THEY DON'T WANT TARGET, BUT THEY WANT ANOTHER MCDONALD'S AND VICE VERSA. MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS IF THE FAIRGROUNDS WOULD EVER BE DEVELOPED, WHERE DO WE GO TO LIE OFF LIGHT, LIGHT OFF FIREWORKS IN THIS COMMUNITY? WHERE DO WE GO TO HAVE OPEN SPACE? NOT EVERY PIECE OF LAND SHOULD BE DEVELOPED INTO HOMES, BUT FIRST YOU GOT TO CREATE POLICY AND WHERE THAT AREA SHOULD BE, AND YOU GOT TO CREATE VISION FOR HOW HOW IT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT OUR TOWN LOOKS LIKE AND WHO WE ARE AS MARYSVILLE. AND IN DOING THAT, IT TAKES HARD WORK FROM NOT ONLY COUNCIL BUT YOUR REPRESENTATION. IT'S WITH THE COUNTY, IT'S WITH THE TOWNSHIPS AND IT'S WITH YOU. SO THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS. WHEN THIS VISIONING KICKS OFF AND COMES TO A PUBLIC. NOW, WHAT THE CRITICS WILL SAY WHEN WE ENACT THESE POLICIES, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY MAYORS WAS TRYING TO BE LIKE DUBLIN. DONALD'S TRYING TO MAKE MARYSVILLE LIKE DUBLIN. HE'S TRYING TO PASS ALL THESE STANDARDS. I'M HERE TO TELL YOU I'M PASSING STANDARDS BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY FIGHTING OVER WHAT MARYSVILLE SHOULD BE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. I WISH 20 YEARS AGO, THIS COMMUNITY HAD THE VISION TO PUT IN STANDARDS OF HOW DEVELOPMENTS SHOULD LOOK, WHERE OPEN SPACE SHOULD BE, THE PROTECTION OF TREES, FARMLAND LIKE WHY, YOU KNOW, WHY CAN'T WE CREATE A GREEN BELT AROUND THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE? WELL, THAT TAKES A COUNTYWIDE EFFORT, AND IT ALSO TAKES SOME KIND OF LEVY ON THE BALLOT, BECAUSE WE ALONE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO PAY FOR LAND. IT TAKES ALL OF YOU TO HELP. COMMUNITIES ARE BUILT WHEN PEOPLE STAND TOGETHER FOR SOMETHING GREATER THAN THEMSELVES, NOT BASED ON INDIVIDUALISM. WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT WE WHAT WE DO AND WHAT WE BUILD IS BIGGER FOR THE FUTURE. WE HAVE TO BE IN THE GAME AT EVERY QUARTER, NOT AT THE FOURTH, NOT AT THE FOURTH QUARTER WHEN WE'RE JUST ABOUT TO SCORE A GOAL. IT STARTS IN THE BEGINNING. SO AS I THINK ABOUT TOWN GROWTH DEVELOPMENT, I ALSO THINK ABOUT DIVERSITY OF HOUSING. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT DIVERSITY OF HOUSING, IT'S DIVERSITY OF ALL INCOME BRACKETS. BECAUSE AS OUR COMMUNITY AGES AND MORE AND MORE PEOPLE RETIRE, THERE'S GOING TO BE LESS AND LESS MONEY. SO TO ENSURE THAT THE QUALITY OF LIFE

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WE WANT WATER TO BE ABLE TO PERCOLATE, PERCOLATE DOWN THROUGH IT TO THE ROOTS. WE DON'T WANT TO CUT OUT THE ROOTS WHEN WE'RE INSTALLING AN ASPHALT PATH. SO THAT IS NOT OUR INTENTION. AND THE CITY HAS NOT ASKED US TO DO ASPHALT. OKAY. SO IF I, YOU KNOW, MY APOLOGIES.

NO, NO, NO, IT'S FINE. HEAR THAT? HOW WIDE I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE THROUGH THE TEXT.

HOW WIDE ARE THE STREET LAWNS. NINE FEET. NINE FEET. YEP. AND THE REASON WHY I ASKED FOR RESIDENTS IS BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT PAPER ITSELF, YOU KNOW, STREET LAWNS PREDOMINANTLY HAVE BEEN 5 TO 6FT WIDE. WELL, IF YOU WANT A TREE CANOPY, A TREE LINED STREET, YOU WANT TO HAVE A LARGE STREET TREE. WELL, TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S LESS OF COST OF MAINTENANCE, YOU DON'T WANT TO PLANT A TREE ON A SIX FOOT STREET LINE THAT GETS REALLY BIG. AND THEN HE'S UP THE SIDEWALK. AND THEN WE AS A COMMUNITY HAVE TO PAY FOR ALL THOSE ONGOING. SO THE BIGGER STREET LAWN, THE LARGER THE TRE, AND LESS MAINTENANCE ON A ON A SIDEWALK IN THE FUTURE. SO I WAS JUST WANTING TO DO THAT. AND THEN. THE NOW BECAUSE THIS IS CUSTOM BUILD. SO YOU'RE NOT JUST GOING TO GO UP THERE AND JUST START BUILDING A WHOLE BUNCH OF HOUSES AT ONE TIME. I GET THAT, AND I'M SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LARGER LOTS WILL HAVE A HAVE A

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CERTAINLY BY THE TIME YOU GET TO THE 80, 90 AND 100 FOOT LOTS, WELL, THE 100 FOOT LOTS, TWO THROUGH NINE, YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO SEE THE GARAGE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN THE BACK.

SAME THING FOR LOTS TEN THROUGH 19. YOU WON'T SEE THE GARAGE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE BACK FOR THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT. YOU'LL HAVE A GOOD MIX. I THINK OF FRONT LOAD AND SIDE LOAD GARAGES, BUT EVEN ON THE FRONT LOAD, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SAID THAT THAT GARAGE HAS TO BE SET BACK SIX FEET FROM THE FACE OF THE PORCH. SO THAT GARAGE IS REALLY GOT TO BE PULLED BACK FROM KIND OF THAT PROMINENT ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE ON THE HOME. SO WE'RE WE'VE HEARD KIND OF THAT FROM STAFF. AND WITH COUNCIL'S CONCERN OVER THAT, WE'VE HEARD SOME OF THAT WITH PLANNING COMMISSION, AND WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO INCORPORATE IN OUR ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS, KIND OF A DE-EMPHASIS OF THE GARAGE. AND THEN CERTAINLY ON ANY OF THE CORNER LOTS, THERE'S NO MATTER WHAT THE LOT WIDTH IS, WE ALWAYS HAVE OPPORTUNITY FOR SIDE LOAD. SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. YEAH. IT'S JUST WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD AND OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE LARGER ESTATES. YOU HAVE DEEPER DRIVE, DEEPER DRIVEWAYS. BUT AND YOU KNOW, IN SO MANY OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS, BECAUSE OF THE NARROW LOT OF 55, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT CAME THROUGH, I WAS NOT NOT OKAY WITH IT, BUT BECAUSE OF THAT AND BECAUSE OF THE SETBACK OF THE HOME IS SO CLOSE TO THE STREET. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THE HUMAN NATURE OF REQUIRING MORE AND MORE STUFF. A LOT OF THE GARAGES TEND TO BE FULL OF THINGS, AND THEN THE CARS ARE PARKED OUT IN THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH THEN HANG OVER THE SIDEWALK. AND SO WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU SEE GARAGE DOOR AND CARS. AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT BURGER ROAD AND THIS DEVELOPMENT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T SEE, AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO EVEN HAVE SOME OF THESE HOMES, DETACHED GARAGES AND SET THEM FURTHER BACK TO PREVENT. SO NOT EVERY HOME LOOKS THE SAME. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE HOUSES IN THAT YOU'RE PERMITTING, YOU KNOW. BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE CUSTOM BUILT HOMES SO PEOPLE CAN BUILD WHAT THEY WANT. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OF THE DESIGNS OF HOMES THAT HAVE DETACHED GARAGES, BUT IT'D BE NICE IF THERE WAS SOME. SO YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE I THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST SAY 33, 32, 31, 30, 29, 28, 27, 26 WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH THERE, YOU'RE NOT SEEING, YES, THE GARAGE IS SIX FEET BACK, BUT STILL YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT GARAGE DOOR, GARAGE DOOR, GARAGE DOOR, GARAGE DOOR AS YOU COME AROUND THAT CURVE. IT'D BE NICE IF THERE WAS A BREAKUP OF ARCHITECTURE IN THERE. SO. WELL, AND THAT'S I MEAN, THE INTENT BEHIND THE KIND OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE IN THE TEXT IS NUMBER ONE TO ENSURE SOME DIVERSITY. BUT TO PULL THAT GARAGE BACK AND PULLING THE GARAGE BACK DOES A COUPLE OF COUPLE OF FUNCTIONS. NUMBER ONE, IT MAKES THE DRIVEWAY DEEPER. YOU ALSO HAVE THE POTENTIAL WITH HOUSES LIKE THIS WHERE YOU COULD DO A THREE CAR GARAGE. SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS PART OF THEIR GARAGE FOR STORAGE, THEY CAN STILL PARK A COUPLE OF CARS IN THE GARAGE. THEY CAN OFFSET THE THIRD CAR, OR THEY CAN DETACH THE THIRD CAR BECAUSE YOU HAVE LOTS THAT ARE LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THAT NOW. SO FROM A CUSTOMER STANDPOINT, ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE POSSIBLE, RIGHT? THE ARCHITECT IS GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, EACH INDIVIDUAL BUYER TO SAY, YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE. AND, YOU KNOW, WOULDN'T IT BE, YOU KNOW, INTERESTING TO DO THIS WITH THE HOUSE. HERE'S WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS SAY. YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN MAKE A HOUSE LOOK LIKE THIS. IF YOU LIKE THE ITALIANATE STYLE OF ARCHITECTURE OR IF YOU, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF RANGE OF OPTIONS THERE, I THINK, THAT ARE GOING TO LEND A LOT OF DIVERSITY WHICH ARE WHICH IS GOING TO DE-EMPHASIZE THAT GARAGE LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE IN A STANDARD BUILDER COMMUNITY. AND THE STANDARD BUILDER COMMUNITY HAS ITS PLACE. THEY'RE THEY'RE VERY NECESSARY. I'M NOT KNOCKING THE BUILDER DEVELOPMENT'S PEOPLE NEED HOUSING. AND, YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO PROVIDE THAT IN THE MOST

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THE MARKET'S A LOT LESS DEEP. SO BUT FROM OUR STANDPOINT FOR THIS SITE, WE WANTED TO CREATE SOMETHING SPECIAL, UNIQUE, GREAT ARCHITECTURE, YOU KNOW, GOOD STANDARDS THAT WOULD EMBODY A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD THE COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR. MY ONE OTHER THING BEFORE YOU, BEFORE YOU START AGAIN. AND I AND I APOLOGIZE. I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S KIND OF INTERESTING TO NOTE, AND WE GET BACK INTO THIS QUESTION OF WHY PUD, IF YOU LOOK AT KIND OF WHY PUDS WERE DEVELOPED AND DON, YOU PROBABLY KNOW THIS, YOU'RE PLANNING DEGREE. THE FUNCTION OF A PUD IS TO ALLOW FOR SOME TRADE OFF IN STANDARDS A LOT OF WAYS. SO IN A LOT OF WAYS, IT'S ALLOW YOU TO DO CREATIVE DEVELOPMENT WHERE THE CITY SAYS, HEY, WE CAN RELAX SOME OF THESE STANDARDS. WE'D BE OKAY WITH THAT AS LONG AS YOU INCREASE THE STANDARDS OVER HERE. WELL, THE INTERESTING THING IS WE HAVEN'T ASKED FOR ANY STANDARDS TO BE RELAXED. IN FACT, WE'VE IMPOSED MORE STRICT STANDARDS IN EVERY WAY THAN THE ZONING CODE REQUIRES. IN ANY INSTANCE, WE HAVEN'T ASKED FOR ANY DIVERGENCES TO THE ZONING CODE. SO WE'VE REALLY KIND OF NOT ACTUALLY TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF WHAT THE PUD WAS REALLY DESIGNED FOR. BUT IT WAS AN AVENUE FOR US TO GET MORE FLEXIBILITY. AND LIKE I SAID, WE COULD DO THE SAME DEVELOPMENT UNDER PSD, BUT IT DOESN'T GIVE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY THE SAME ASSURANCES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET WHAT THEY'VE BEEN PROMISED. THIS DOES YOU WOULD HAVE A HARDER TIME IF YOU TRY TO WEAKEN YOUR STANDARDS. THE LAST THING I WOULD, I WOULD JUST ASK IF, YOU KNOW THE ISLAND BED, IF NOW I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. SO WHEN IT RAINS, YOU WANT THE WATER TO FLOW OFF TO THE CURB INTO THE STORM AND FAR, YOU KNOW, FAR AWAY. BUT IN THAT ISLAND BED, I DON'T KNOW THE WIDTH OF IT OR ANYTHING. IS THERE A WAY, KYLE? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, NO ONE HAS TO ANSWER THIS NOW, BUT JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN DIVERT STORM WATER INTO THAT ISLAND BED. SO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT LOWER AND PUT SOME TOPSOIL IN AND THEN PUT TREES IN IT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE ISSUE IS, IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NORMALLY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS ISLAND BED, YOU SEE IT LIKE KROGER PARKING LOT AND ALL THESE OTHER. YOU HAVE THESE ISLAND BEDS THAT ARE DRIER THAN ANY OTHER AREA BECAUSE IT'S PUT IN GRAVEL AND ALL THESE THINGS. SO IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU CAN BUILD THAT IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS STORMWATER TO FLOW IN THERE DURING RAINY, RAINY SEASONS AND DURING TIMES OR, AND SNOW MELT AND WHATEVER THOSE THINGS ARE, THAT AND THEN WITH THE TREE PURIFYING THE WATER AND GRADUALLY ALLOW IT TO GO BACK DOWN INTO, YOU KNOW, EARTH, IF THAT'S JUST AN OPTION THAT YOU GUYS WILL CONSIDER OR, OR LOOK AT. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK AS A CITY LOOKING AT SUSTAINABILITY ISSUES AND HOW TO PROTECT STORMWATER, HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT WE ARE KEEPING GROUNDWATER ON THE LAND INSTEAD OF BUILDING MORE WATER LINES TO FLUSH IT AWAY IN THE LONG TERM MAINTENANCE OF THAT? SO THOSE ARE JUST ANOTHER OPTION THAT I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GUYS JUST LOOK INTO. WE DEFINITELY HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR TREES IN THE ISLAND. WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO LOOK AT LANDSCAPING THAT ISLAND IN TERMS OF USING IT FOR STORMWATER FUNCTION. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DEFINITELY EXPLORE. THERE'S THERE ARE SOME TREES THAT WILL WORK IN THAT INSTANCE THAT CAN TOLERATE, YOU KNOW, WETTER CONDITIONS. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT. BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY ROOM TO DO SOMETHING CREATIVE THERE.

WE HAVEN'T GIVEN IT A LOT OF THOUGHT, BUT CERTAINLY WE COULD EXPLORE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH, JUST LOOK INTO THAT FOR ME. OKAY. IS ANYBODY ELSE OKAY? WELL. THANK YOU. NOW, LET ME GET MY NOTES TOGETHER HERE. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING AND VOTE ON JULY 28TH, 2025. AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A LONG PERIOD BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GO RIGHT INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AFTER FINAL COMMENTS. BUT IF RESIDENTS IF YOU GUYS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUTURE GROWTH, IDENTITY, MASTER PLANNING AND ISSUES, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE CITY'S FACEBOOK PAGE AS WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS TO COME OUT AND SPEAK ON VISIONING AND LONG TERM GROWTH AND PROJECTIONS OF GROWTH, AND USE THAT TIME TO ADD INPUT ON HOW DO WE PUT IN ZONING, SOMETHING WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT AND NEVER REGULATED? HOW DO WE REGULATE TO PROTECT SMALL TOWN GROWTH, IDENTITY AND GREEN SPACE AND TREES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO I'M JUST LETTING EVERYBODY TO JUST PAY ATTENTION TO THAT.

[COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL PERSONS AND GENERAL DISCUSSION]

[02:10:03]

YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING, KYLE, 12 MONTHS PLUS PLUS. YEAH, PROBABLY 12 MONTHS OR TWO YEARS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT A SUBSTANTIAL PERIOD OF TIME. NOW THERE IS SOME INTEREST ON THE ON THE PART OF THE VISIONING PLAN THAT WE'RE DOING AND EVERYTHING AS TO WHAT THAT CAN PERMANENTLY BECOME DOWN THE ROAD. BUT WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING IN A POSITION TO DETERMINE THAT AT THIS TIME. SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE CLEANUP, CONTINUE CLEANUP, THEN WORK ON THE TOWN RUN TO MAKE SURE IT'S STABILIZED, MAYBE EVEN REPOSITIONED. AND THEN AT WHEN ALL THAT'S DONE IN THE NEXT YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF, APPROXIMATELY, THEN YOU MAY SEE AN IN BETWEEN. THEN YOU'LL SEE US LOOKING INTO IT FROM A VISIONING STANDPOINT ON HOW IT CAN BE UTILIZED. THAT'S IT FOR NOW. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO COUNCIL, I WILL START WITH MISS JULIE TONIGHT. FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A BIG CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR CLERK OF COURTS WHO LEFT US SO WELL PREPARED AND FOR JENNIFER FOR STEPPING IN TONIGHT. SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. ALSO APPRECIATE ALL THE CITIZENS WHO CAME OUT TO SHARE THEIR FEEDBACK AND THE PASSION FOR HOW WE MOVE FORWARD AND NAVIGATE THIS, THIS PATHWAY TOGETHER. SO THANK YOU, MR. REAMS. I GUESS THE FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY IS IT WAS GREAT TO SEE DENNIS SCHULTZ HERE TONIGHT.

HI, DENNIS. IT BROUGHT BACK MEMORIES FROM MY OLD DAYS ON PLANNING COMMISSION. AND SO AND THERE A LOT. SO THANKS FOR ATTENDING TONIGHT, DENNIS. AND YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING I WANT TO DO IS JUST TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE EVENTS WE'VE HAD HERE LATELY. YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD GREAT ATTENDANCE. IT'S GREAT SEEING EVERYBODY COMING OUT FOR THE FRIDAY NIGHT UPTOWN THIS LAST WEEK AND THEN THE PARADE. I MEAN, THAT WAS THAT WAS PRETTY AMAZING. I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS GOING TO BE TOO HOT. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BACK OUT OR NOT BE THERE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS GREAT. MY DOG J.LO AND I, YOU KNOW, ENJOYED IT A LOT. AND JUST SEEING EVERYBODY. SO IT'S A GOOD TIME OF YEAR TO SEE EVERYBODY OUT THERE. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, MR. HUNTER A COUPLE THINGS. SO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. WE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT. MR. HAMMOND SPOKE ABOUT A COUPLE DIFFERENT PROBLEMS. I THINK HE MENTIONED LIVING IN THE TOWNSHIP. CAN'T GO TO EVERY MEETING. THERE'S I WOULD SAY THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE IN THAT SITUATION. THEY GOT KIDS SOCCER GAMES. THEY'VE GOT OTHER MEETINGS, TELEVISION PROGRAMS, CHURCH SERVICES, YOU NAME IT. AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHY WE HAVE A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY AND WE ELECT LEADERS TO MAKE EDUCATED DECISIONS ON YOUR BEHALF. I STARTED GOING DOOR TO DOOR TO RUN FOR COUNCIL SOME YEARS AGO, MY FIRST GO AROUND, AND I WENT TO MY FIRST HOME AND I HAD HEARD FROM A RESIDENT SOME OPINIONS, AND I WAS THINKING TO MYSELF, I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, YOU

[02:15:02]

ALTHOUGH SOME PEOPLE DO. SOME PEOPLE DO COME TO QUITE A BIT OF MEETINGS. COMMEND THEM ON THAT.

BUT WE LISTEN, WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AND WE DO OUR BEST JOB TO REPRESENT THE WHOLE OF WHAT CITIZENS HAVE TO SAY, WHAT RESIDENTS OF THE CITY HAVE TO SAY. LAST COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE. WE ARE GETTING INTO THE FAIR SEASON. I KNOW THAT FOR H. SOME PROGRAMS LIKE THAT, THEY'RE STARTING TO GO INTO JUDGING WEEK. SO ALL OF THE BEST TO THE KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE EGG COMMUNITY, RAISING ANIMALS, SHOWING THE ANIMALS, DOING PROJECTS. ALL OF THE BEST TO THEM. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT I'VE SEEN PRESENT IN FOUR H, PEOPLE THAT I'VE SEEN PRESENT IN HIGH SCHOOL ROBOTICS CLUBS IN, NOT IN JUST MARYSVILLE SCHOOLS, BUT IN NORTH UNION SCHOOLS WHERE THESE KIDS ARE ABLE TO PRESENT AND ANSWER QUESTIONS TO A DEGREE MORE SO THAN SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE INTERVIEWED FOR FULL TIME JOBS COMING OUT OF COLLEGE. I MEAN, IT IS AMAZING SOME OF THE DISCIPLINE THAT THESE KIDS HAVE, AND IT'S THIS COMMUNITY THAT IS JUST, I FEEL DOES A GREAT JOB OF POURING IN TALENT. IT'S THE PEOPLE LEADING THOSE PROGRAMS, INVESTING IN OUR YOUTH. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE THE JUDGING AND HOW THEY DO IN THE FAIR. THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. OH, ACTUALLY, SKIP DOWN TO MR. WOLFE AND THEN COME BACK. YEAH. THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS I HOPE TO SEE SOME OF YOU OUT AND ABOUT AT THE FAIR THIS COMING WEEK AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE A GOOD REST OF YOUR JULY UNTIL WE GET BACK HERE ON THE 28TH. OKAY. YEAH. I THINK TONIGHT WAS A PERFECT EXAMPLE. WHY I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO STAY OFF OF SOCIAL MEDIA. I KNOW THAT'S AN UNDERSTATEMENT. AND AS BRETT MENTIONED, I IS NOT ALWAYS TO BE TRUSTED. SO THAT'S RULE NUMBER TWO. SO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN YOU DO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU WHEN YOU TRY TO ENGAGE IN TO DO ANYTHING. SO SOMETIMES IT'S BETTER TO STAY OUT. I THINK WE'RE FLEXIBLE ENOUGH AND PEOPLE KNOW WHAT, WHERE AND WHEN TO FIND US. SO IN MY OPINION, STAY OFF OF SOCIAL MEDIA WISE WORDS. I GUESS I SHOULD SAY I HAVE NOTHING TONIGHT, SO I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO ATTENDED AND JUST KNOW THAT VOICES ARE ALWAYS HEARD. SOMETIMES DEMOCRACY IS SLOW TO REACT, OR SOMETIMES THE STATEMENT THAT IS STATED IS NOT ABLE TO BE ACT ON AND BUT IT IS OUR JOB TO LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS BEST FOR MARYSVILLE COLLECTIVELY. AND SO IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS OR CONCERN, PLEASE KNOW THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO REACH US WHEN YOU NEED ANSWERS OR QUESTIONS. SO THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I MOVE TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE EMPLOYMENT OF PUBLIC EMPLOYEES. IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL SECOND THAT SECOND. THANK YOU. ROLL CALL, MR. RAIMES. YES, MISS KRAMER? YES, MR. WOLFE? YES, MR. BURBY. YES, MR. BURGER? YES. MR. HUNTER? YES. SIX. YES.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.