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WELCOME, EVERYBODY, TO THE MARYSVILLE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. TODAY'S DATE IS AUGUST 11TH, 2025 AND IT IS 7:00. SO I WANT TO HAVE ASKED EVERYBODY TO RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THEN STAY STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALMIGHTY GOD, WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND ITS CITIZENS.
AMEN. AMEN. ROLL CALL. MR. BORDNER HERE. MR. WOLF. HERE. MR. BURKE. MR. BERGER HERE. MR. HUNTER HERE. MR. REAMES HERE. AND COUNCILMAN, COUNCILWOMAN KRAMER IS EXCUSED.
[ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]
ADMINISTRATION REPORT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. A FEW ITEMS HERE BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS THIS FRIDAY. WE HAVE OUR LAST FRIDAY NIGHT UPTOWN OF THIS OF THE SEASON. MARGARITAVILLE IS FROM 6 TO 10 P.M. MUSIC BY PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN. AND ONE NUMBER OFF WHO WILL BE THE OPENING ACT THAT NIGHT. IT'S PRESENTED BY DICKMAN SUPPLY. SO THIS FRIDAY FROM 6 TO 10. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING MANY OF YOU IN THE UPTOWN AREA FOR MARGARITAVILLE. ALSO THIS WEEKEND ON SATURDAY, WE HAVE THE HONDA AND HOUNDS BLOCK PARTY AND PET EXPO. SO SATURDAY, AUGUST 16TH FROM 11 A.M. TO 2:30 P.M. AT THE MARYSVILLE BARK PARK ENTRANCE IS FREE. JOIN OHIO PET CHARITY'S BIGGEST ANNUAL EVENT, HONDA AND HOUNDS FOR FUN GROUP ACTIVITIES AND CONTESTS. DISCOVER LOCAL FOOD TRUCKS AND VENDORS, ENJOY LIVE MUSIC AND CONNECT WITH LOCAL RESCUES, VET CLINICS AND RESOURCES FOR YOUR PET. SO THAT'LL BE A COOL, COOL EVENT ON SATURDAY. SO THAT'LL BE HAPPENING FROM 11 A.M. TO 2:30 P.M. AT OUR BARK PARK. AND THEN, OF COURSE, IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE. HERE WE ARE ENTERING THE END OF THE POOL SEASON. RIGHT NOW. OUR SWIMMING POOLS OPEN ON WEEKENDS FROM NOON TO 6 P.M. SO BETWEEN NOW AND AUGUST 31ST, THE LAST DAY TO SWIM WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 1ST ON LABOR DAY. OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE DOG SWIM. THEN FOLLOWING THAT. THE LABOR DAY SWIM. ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IT'S ALWAYS WE'D LOVE TO BE OPEN THIS WEEK. WE REALLY WOULD. BUT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO PUT TOGETHER A STAFF WHEN ALL OF OUR MANAGERS OR SCHOOL OFFICIALS WHO ARE BACK IN THE SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW AND, AND A LOT OF OUR GUARDS ARE LEAVING AND GOING BACK TO COLLEGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE JUST WE LIMIT OURSELVES.WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO LOOK AT WAYS, BECAUSE HERE WE ARE IN MID-AUGUST AND IT'S 90 DEGREES OUT. IT'D BE GREAT TO LEAVE THE POOL OPEN. I WAS GOING TO RECRUIT SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SEE IF THEY COULD SIT IN THE CHAIRS TO BE A GUARD OR SOMETHING, BUT I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME COMING, SAVING YOU. BE SAVING YOURSELVES, I GET IT. BUT WEEKENDS IS WHEN THE POOL'S OPEN NOW, FROM FROM NOON TO 6 P.M. AND WITH THAT, I'LL SHIFT DOWN TO MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS FOR JEREMY. YEAH. THANK YOU. TERRY. CITY STREET CREWS ARE CONTINUING TO CRACK SEAL, AND THEY HAVE AN OVERNIGHT BASE REPAIR ON SOUTHBOUND 31 SET UP FOR LATER THIS WEEK. WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR ON BOARD TO PAVE THE CHESTNUT TRAIL. SO THAT'S THE AREA BETWEEN THE CHESTNUT GARAGE AND THE FORMER MARYSVILLE STEEL SITE. AND THEN AS WELL, PORTIONS NEAR HOMETOWNE AUTO THIS WEEK, AND THEN FINALLY ON THE STREET SIDE. THE CITY CREWS DID COMPLETE THE DEMOLITION OF THE BUILDING RIGHT UP ALONG CHESTNUT STREET ON THE EAST SIDE, EAST SIDE OF CHESTNUT. LAST WEEK, ON THE PARK SIDE, THE CREWS ARE PREPARING FOR THE UPTOWN EVENT THIS WEEKEND, COMPLETING WORK AT SCOTT FAMILY PARK, INCLUDING CUTTING IN TRAILS, PLACING PERMITS AND TRASH CANS AROUND AROUND THE PARK. ON THE WATER SIDE. THE CITY CREWS WILL BE STARTING IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS. THE CONLEY STREET WATER LINE REPLACEMENT PROJECT THAT WE DISCUSSED DURING PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC SERVICE AND PERFORMING A LATE NIGHT WATER MAIN REPAIR ON
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INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY JUST SOUTH OF WARNER ROAD. FROM A WATER PRODUCTION STANDPOINT, THE AVERAGE WATER PRODUCED AT THE PLANT LAST WEEK WAS 4.9 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, WITH A PEAK OF 5.4 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, AND THEN FINALLY, ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, WE HAD A TANK CLEANING BID FOR ONE OF THE TANKS OUT AT THE WRAF. SO WE HAD A BID OPENING FOR THAT TODAY. AND THEN AS WELL, OUR SUPERINTENDENT, COREY SMITH, AND MYSELF WILL BE ATTENDING THE ONE WATER CONFERENCE TOMORROW AND WEDNESDAY. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KYLE FOR SOME UPDATES ON CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. THANKS, JEREMY. HAVE UPDATES HERE ON FOR EXISTING PROJECTS AND ONE NEW ONE THAT'S GOING TO KICK OFF HERE NEXT WEEK. THE FIRST EXISTING ONE IS THE COLEMAN'S CROSSING AND INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY ROUNDABOUT. CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES ON THAT PROJECT. THE ONLY REMAINING WORK IS LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING AND THE SURFACE ASPHALT. THE INTERSECTION WILL REMAIN CLOSED UNTIL ALL THOSE ACTIVITIES ARE COMPLETE. NEXT UPDATE IS ON THE CARRIE JACOBS AND CHERRY STREET SANITARY IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. SANITARY WORK CONTINUES THIS WEEK ON THAT PROJECT. JUST A REMINDER, NORTH CHERRY STREET BETWEEN EAST FOURTH STREET AND LAKEVIEW DRIVE IS CLOSED DURING THIS PHASE. THE NEXT UPDATE IS THE RESERVOIR CONNECTOR TRAIL.PHASE TWO PROJECT CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES ON THAT I BELIEVE ALL THE CONCRETE HAS BEEN POURED.
THE REMAINING WORK FOR THAT IS THE ASPHALT TRAIL AND THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING. I THINK WE'RE HOPING TO WRAP THAT UP HERE BY THE END OF AUGUST, SO THAT'LL BE NICE ONCE THAT'S ALL.
ALL FINISHED. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS THE 2025 PAVING PROGRAM. SO CONCRETE WORK CONTINUES ON ALL OF THE PROGRAM STREETS. I DID GET SOME INFORMATION THAT I THINK ASPHALT PAVING MIGHT START HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS. SO THAT PROJECT IS MOVING ALONG NICELY. AND THEN THE ONLY NEW PROJECT IS THE WEST FIFTH STREET IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. OUR CONTRACTOR, THEY'LL BE IN TOWN NEXT MONDAY TO START WORK ON THAT PROJECT. JUST A REMINDER, EASTBOUND TRAFFIC WILL BE DETOURED TO SIXTH STREET AT GROVE STREET DURING THE FIRST PHASE, SO THAT HAS TO GET SPLIT INTO TWO PHASES. THE WORK ON THE SOUTH SIDE FIRST, WHICH REQUIRES THAT EASTBOUND TRAFFIC DETOUR WHERE WE'RE ANTICIPATING 2 TO 3 WEEKS PER PHASE AND WITH A TOTAL OF TWO PHASES. SO WE'RE HOPING TO BE DONE WITH FIFTH STREET WITHIN A MONTH, SIX WEEKS MAX. THOSE ARE ALL THE UPDATES WE HAVE. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ADMINISTRATION? I JUST HAD ONE. OKAY. THE ANTICIPATED OPENING DATE FOR THE FOR THE INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY ROUNDABOUT. YEAH. SO WE'RE HOPING TO OPEN THAT UP BY LIKE THE LAST WEEK OF AUGUST AROUND THAT TIME. SO LANDSCAPE SHOULD GO IN PRETTY QUICK. THE LIGHTING STILL HAS TO POP UP. WE CAN'T OPEN THAT UP UNTIL THAT THE LIGHTS ARE UP.
BUT WE'RE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT TWO MORE WEEKS AT LEAST. THANK YOU. I HAD ONE QUESTION. THE TRAIL THAT GOES FROM THE GREEN PASTURE SUBDEVELOPMENT TO EDGEWOOD ELEMENTARY. I HAD ASKED, I THINK IN OUR LAST MEETING WAS THAT TARGETED TO BE PAID PRIOR TO SCHOOL, GIVEN THAT SCHOOL STARTS NEXT WEEK, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S REALLY THE TURNAROUND ON THAT WOULD BE. I WOULD EXPECT MAYBE A COUPLE DAYS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY ETA ON THAT? YEAH. SO IF THAT'S THE ASPHALT WORK, AS YOU KNOW, WITH THE PAVING PROGRAM, THAT'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY WHEN THEY COME IN TO START DOING ASPHALT WORK TOWARDS THE END OF THIS MONTH. SO IT'S IT PROBABLY WON'T BE IN BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS. OKAY. AND THEN GIVEN THAT KIDS WALK ON THAT.
YEAH. WOULD THERE BE SOME COORDINATION NOTICE WITH THE SCHOOL. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL WORK WITH THE SCHOOLS ON THAT AND IT'LL BE CLOSED DOWN JUST FOR THAT DAY.
WHENEVER THEY DO COME IN TO ASPHALT IT. OKAY. AND KYLE ANY UPDATE OR FURTHER UPDATE ON WEST FIFTH STREET BETWEEN MAPLE AND GROVE. I'VE SEEN THAT THEY DID THE SAME THING THAT THEY DID A NUMBER OF YEARS OR SORRY, THAT THEY DID LAST YEAR IN PAST YEARS THAT THEY WE HAVE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS DOING DIFFERENT THINGS. IT SEEMS THAT AT THE MOMENT, STORMWATER IS GETTING THE ATTENTION. WILL THERE BE REPLACEMENT OF CURBS? WHAT EXACTLY DO WE INTEND TO DO ON THAT STRETCH OF FIFTH STREET? YEAH. ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE WEST FIFTH STREET IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT? YEAH, YEAH. SO I GAVE THAT UPDATE IN THE UPDATES. YEAH. SO THEY PLAN TO START WORK NEXT MONDAY ON THAT. AND THAT WILL BE PHASED INTO TWO PHASES. THEY'RE GOING TO START ON THE
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SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD NEXT WEEK. AND THEN WE'LL DETOUR TRAFFIC FOR EASTBOUND TRAFFIC.AND THEN AFTER 2 OR 3 WEEKS THEY'LL WORK ON THAT NORTH SIDE AND DETOUR WESTBOUND TRAFFIC AND WILL REMAIN OPEN OR WILL BE CLOSED AND ONE LANE WILL BE OPEN AND THEY'LL BE SPLIT. SO AS THEY'RE WORKING ON THE SOUTH SIDE, ONLY WESTBOUND TRAFFIC WILL BE OPEN. AND THEN WHEN THEY START WORKING ON THE NORTH SIDE, EASTBOUND TRAFFIC WILL BE OPEN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEP.
YEAH. MR. PORTER. HEY, KYLE. YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE THE ANSWER RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S THE SAME SIMILAR VEIN AS AS MR. HUNTER. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT PUTTING A FLASHING SIGN AT PROFESSIONAL AND WEAVER CHESTNUT, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. DO WE HAVE ANY SORT OF UPDATE ON. WE DO. YEAH. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY IMPROVEMENTS. THEY'RE GOING TO THAT'S THAT'S WITH THE PAVING PROGRAM. SO TOWARDS THE END OF AUGUST IS WHEN THEY PLAN TO COME IN AND DO ALL THE PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY. THEY'LL POUR THOSE NEW CURB RAMPS FOR THE CROSSING AND PUT THAT RECTANGULAR RAPID FLASH BEACON UP AT THAT TIME. SO THINK ABOUT END OF AUGUST, EARLY SEPTEMBER FOR THAT WORK. THANK YOU. YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE. THANK YOU. REPORT OF CLERK OF COUNCIL.
[REPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT]
THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. THANK YOU. REPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, MR. PHILLIPS. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCIL MEMBERS, JUST A COUPLE THINGS. ONE, WE DO HAVE AN EVENT COMING UP. THE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF ARE INVITED TO. THAT IS THE BUSINESS IMPACT.BREAKFAST, WHICH IS A IS AN IMPORTANT ONE. IT'S THE 28TH OF AUGUST HERE. NEXT WEEK IT'LL BE ACTUALLY IT'S A COUPLE WEEKS AWAY. IT'LL BE AT AMEC. IT'S AN UPDATE ON THE BETA DISTRICT.
WE'LL HAVE JEFF REED FROM HONDA WILL BE SPEAKING. WE HAVE DOUG MCCALL, OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR OUR FOR OUR COG SPEAKING. WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVE LEXAN WHO'S OPERATING A MIC. THEY WILL ALSO SPEAK. AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO REPRESENTATIVES OF TRC. IT'S A JOINT EVENT BETWEEN THE DUBLIN LOGAN AND UNION COUNTY CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE. SO WE DO THIS ANNUALLY. THERE'LL PROBABLY BE OVER 100 PEOPLE THERE. SO YOU'RE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE. IF YOU NEED INFORMATION, LET ME KNOW.
WE CAN WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU AS WELL. THE OTHER THING TO UPDATE YOU ON, WE DO HAVE A JAPAN MISSION COMING UP. SO A LOT OF PLANNING GOING ON. THERE'S FIVE OF US GOING PRESIDENT, COUNCIL, BERGER, TERRY, BILL NARDUCCI AND MYSELF AND AKIKO MURAMOTO WILL BE ACTUALLY GOING AS WELL. SO WE HAVE FIVE OF US IN OUR DELEGATION. JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A REPORT WHAT OUR PLANS ARE RIGHT NOW. WE OF COURSE, WILL BE GOING TO OUR FRIENDSHIP CITY BECAUSE WE HAVE THE STUDENT EXCHANGE PROGRAM. THEY'RE COMING HERE THE LAST WEEK OF, OF, OF AUGUST, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SO FAR, WE'VE HAD 96. THIS TIME WHEN THEY COME HERE, THIS TIME, 96 STUDENTS THAT WILL HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROGRAM, GOING BACK AS PART OF THE EXCHANGE IN 23 DIFFERENT CHAPERONS HAVE BEEN PART OF THAT PROGRAM SINCE WE BEGAN IN 2015. BUT WE'LL BE GIVING WE'LL BE THANKING YOU FOR BEING A PARTNER IN THAT. WE WILL THEN ALSO VISIT THE MINISTRY OF LAND, INFRASTRUCTURE, TRANSPORT AND TOURISM TO TALK ABOUT SMART CITY'S JAPANTOWN CONCEPTS AS WELL. WE'LL BE VISITING THEN NINE COMPANIES THAT CURRENTLY HAVE FACILITIES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE 20 JAPANESE COMPANIES IN MARYSVILLE AND UNION COUNTY TODAY, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO VISIT NINE OF THOSE COMPANIES. WE'LL VISIT WITH NISSAN MINEBEAMITSUMI MORI, NIHON PLAS, WHICH IS THE PARENT OF NEATON NEATON PRODUCTS PLOT WORK, WHICH IS OUR NEWEST JAPANESE COMPANY, SUMITOMO HONDA LOGISTICS. KOMATSU, WHICH IS THE PARENT COMPANY OF AKG AGRI, THEY'RE LOCATED OUT BY HONDA. THEY DO THE SOYBEAN BACK TO JAPAN, AND HONDA WILL ALSO BE PART OF THOSE. WE'LL ALSO BE GOING TO THE WORLD EXPO, VISITING A COUPLE OF OUR COMPANIES THAT HAVE DISPLAYS, PAVILIONS THERE, AND WE'LL BE ATTENDING THE MIDWEST US JAPAN CONFERENCE. THIS IS IN A MATTER OF TEN DAYS, SO I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE TO THE DELEGATES THAT ARE GOING, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A BUSY TEN DAYS WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT MEETINGS THROUGHOUT JAPAN. AND WHY DO WE DO THIS? I THINK ONE IS THE STUDENT EXCHANGE, BUT ALSO TO UNDERSTAND THAT JAPANESE COMPANIES HAVE INVESTED $7 BILLION IN OUR COMMUNITY SINCE 1979, AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO GO OVER AND SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT INVESTMENT. AND THAT CONTINUED FOREIGN DIRECT INVESTMENT IS IMPORTANT TO OUR FUTURE AND PROVIDES, I THINK, ALMOST OVER 30% OF THE JOBS THAT ARE PROVIDED IN OUR IN UNION COUNTY ARE PROVIDED BY JAPANESE FACILITIES. SO AGAIN, THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE DO IT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF TERRY OR COUNCIL PRESIDENT WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE TRIP BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE GOING, YOU KNOW, I THE ONLY
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THING I'LL ADD IS AND DONALD'S PROBABLY SEEN IT AS WELL. ERIC. HANK, YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN IT. ERIC DOES A FANTASTIC JOB OF SETTING UP OUR SCHEDULE. IT'S EXHAUSTING SOMETIMES BECAUSE YOU'RE TRANSPORTING YOUR LUGGAGE EVERYWHERE YOU GO, PRETTY MUCH. AND, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S BUT IT'S VERY REWARDING. AND THE COMPANIES THAT WE VISIT ARE VERY THANKFUL THAT THAT WE TAKE THAT TIME TO COME SEE THEM. SO I THINK IT'S BEEN WELL, WELL WORTH IT. OUR VISITS TO JAPAN, I WOULD I WOULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS HAS NOT SEEN THE BEHIND THE SCENES WORK OF WHAT MR. PHILLIPS DOES, IT'S QUITE ASTONISHING HOW MUCH THAT HE PLANS ON THIS ON HIS OWN. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THE AMOUNT OF BUSINESSES THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE AND PEOPLE YOU'RE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH WHILE YOU'RE THERE. IT'S LONG DAYS, AND I'LL SAY THAT MUCH. AND ALSO, I THINK HAVING SUCH A SMALL LIMITED GROUP THIS TIME AROUND WILL BE MORE IMPACTFUL MEETINGS THAN WHAT I THINK WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. SO KUDOS TO EVERYBODY WHO'S BEEN A PART OF IT. AND IT'S NOT JUST GOING OVER THERE, BUT THE ETIQUETTE TRAINING, EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO HAVE DONE BEFORE YOU CAN GO. IT'S A LOT, SO YOU PUT A LOT INTO IT. AND WE'RE ALSO PLANNING, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE ALSO PLANNING THE JAPANESE FLUENCY AND ETIQUETTE TRAINING, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THIS WEDNESDAY. WE HAVE ALMOST 60 FROM AROUND THE STATE ARE COMING TO MARYSVILLE FOR THAT TRAINING. SO WE'LL BE TEACHING JAPANESE BUSINESS ETIQUETTE AND HOW YOU INTERACT, BUT ALSO WE'LL LEARN ABOUT JAPANESE RESOURCES AND HOW THOSE INDIVIDUALS CAN TAKE THOSE RESOURCES BACK. OHIO WILL HAVE 60 DELEGATES, ABOUT 60 DELEGATES. IT WILL BE THE LARGEST DELEGATION GOING TO JAPAN DURING THIS TIME. SO WE JUST GOT TO BEAT EVERY OTHER MIDWESTERN STATE. THE STATE OF NORTH IS EASY TO BEAT. WE JUST GOT TO BEAT ALL THE OTHERS AS WELL. BUT WE'LL WE'LL HAVE THE MOST DELEGATES OVER IN JAPAN DURING THAT TIME, WHICH IS REALLY COOL. I THINK MR. BURBY WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING. YEAH, THE THING FOUR YEARS AGO THAT. I ENJOYED THE MOST WAS THE FACT THAT WE HAD A STORY TO TELL. AND AT THAT TIME, YEAH, WE HAD JUST LEARNED THAT ELECTRICITY THAT IS ALWAYS A BIG NEED FOR THE COMPANIES THAT WE GO AND VISIT.AND AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS 16% OF THE ELECTRICITY THAT IS NOW AVAILABLE OR WAS AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME. AND I'M SURE IT HAS EXPANDED SINCE THEN. BUT 16% OF THE ELECTRICITY WAS EITHER WIND OR SOLAR PANELS. WATER. YEAH. THOSE WERE WHAT WE REFERRED TO AS ALTERNATIVE ELECTRICAL SOURCES. YEAH. AND THE FACT THAT WE AS LONG AS WE CAN REMEMBER. YEAH, 15, 20 YEARS AGO IT WAS COMMON TO HAVE BROWNOUTS OR EVEN BLACKOUTS AT TIMES. YEAH. AND WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT IN A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. THIS TIME WHEN YOU'RE GOING OVER THERE. YEAH. THE STORY THAT YOU CAN TELL IS THE NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL DWELLINGS THAT WE NOW HAVE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE HOW NOT ONLY MARYSVILLE, BUT HOW ALL OF UNION COUNTY, THANKS TO THE LABOR FORCE THAT THEY NEED, THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EXPAND BY X NUMBER OF HOMES AND PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO STAY. SO DEFINITELY, I THINK WHEN YOU GO OVER THERE, YOU YOU FOR EVERY ONE OF THE PLACES THAT YOU GO TO, YOU HAVE A VERY STRONG STORY TO TELL ABOUT THE REGION. YEAH, MARYSVILLE, UNION COUNTY, BUT ALL OF COLUMBUS, POTENTIALLY INTEL WILL CONTINUE ON AND COMPLETE THEIR PROJECT. SO THERE IS THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD NEWS THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH PEOPLE. AND THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO HEAR ABOUT. ABSOLUTELY. A GREAT POINT. AND WE'RE HAVING SOME OF THE THINGS TRANSLATED AS WE SPEAK, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE RECENT DEVELOPMENTS IN MARYSVILLE TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. THAT'S REAL IMPORTANT TO THEM.
TO YOUR POINT. ABSOLUTELY. AND THE LAST THING I'LL SAY ABOUT THIS IS THAT WHEN PLOT WORK OPENED AND WE HAD AN EVENT FOR THERE, THEY WERE SPEAKING ON THE AVERAGE AGE OF THEIR COUNTRY IS 60 YEARS OLD. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE, I THINK, MORE HOMES THAN PEOPLE. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE UNITED STATES AND PARTICULARLY THIS REGION FOR EMPLOYMENT IN THE FUTURE. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE MOSTLY AUTO. SO, YOU KNOW, DETROIT, WHICH IS THE STATE OF
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NORTH, HE ALWAYS SPEAKS ABOUT. AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, IN THIS AREA AND THE REASON WHY THIS AREA IS THEY TAKE SO MUCH PRIDE IN THIS AREA IS BECAUSE IN THE JAPANESE CULTURE, A LOT OF THE SAME TRADITIONS THAT WE HAVE, THEY VALUE. AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY THEY TEND TO LOCATE IN THIS SURROUNDING AREA. SO BUT JUST FOR BACK INFORMATION, AS AGAIN, AS OUR COUNTRY CONTINUES TO AGE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT MOVING MORE AND MORE COMPANIES WILL BE MOVING TO AMERICA TO GAIN MORE WORKFORCE. SO WE'LL ALSO TAKE A GIFT FROM OUR LIBRARY TO THEIR LIBRARIAN AND ALSO GIFT FROM OUR NEW SUPERINTENDENT, ZACH HOWARD. WE'LL GO TO THE SUPERINTENDENT AND YOU'LL READ TO SHOW SOME GOODWILL AND THOSE, THOSE AREAS AS WELL. SO THANK YOU. THANK[PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION REPORT]
YOU. PARKS AND RECREATION REPORT STEVEN WOLF. YES. SO WE HAD OUR LAST PARKS AND REC MEETING ON JULY 15TH AND A FEW OF THE UPDATES WE RECEIVED. THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT RECEIVED ABOUT 50 TONS OF ENFIELD MIX FROM THE DUBLIN PARKS, FROM THEIR BASEBALL DIAMONDS. SO WE HAVE THAT NOW. FOUNDATIONS FOR THE NEW SHADE STRUCTURE AT THE MILL VALLEY SOUTH PARK HAVE BEEN STARTED FOR THE CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUND THERE, AND I WENT BY A COUPLE DAYS AGO AND IT'S IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING ALL PUT UP IN THE FENCES, BEING PUT BACK UP AROUND THAT AS WELL. THE COMMISSION IS ALSO CURRENTLY REVIEWING DESIGNS AND ESTIMATES FOR A NEW RESTROOM AT ALDERSGATE PARK. THE PREFERRED DESIGN IS A UNISEX SINGLE UNIT, 4 TO 8, TO PREVENT VANDALISM, AND THE POTENTIAL LOCATION WOULD BE NEAR THE BASKETBALL COURT, WITH A LOOP TRAIL CONNECTING TO IT. SO WE'RE STILL IN THAT PROCESS OF FIGURING OUT WHAT KIND OF DESIGN EXACTLY AND WHAT THE COST WOULD BE, BUT THAT'S IN THE WORKS. AND THEN ALSO, THERE'S A PLAN TO GET OAKDALE CEMETERY, THE ARBORETUM DESIGNATION BY THE AMERICA 250 FOR NEXT YEAR. SO THEN ON OUR AGENDA, WE DISCUSSED THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR PARKS. SO WE GOT A LOOK AT THAT AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK NEXT MONTH KIND OF WITH ANY SUGGESTIONS OR CHANGES OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. THE PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN WILL ALSO BE UP AT THE NEXT MEETING. IT WAS A BRIEF CONVERSATION ON THAT. AND AS I SAY, OUR NEXT MEETING IS TUESDAY, AUGUST 17TH AT SIX. THANK YOU SIR. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? FOR COUNCILMAN WOLFF? OH GO AHEAD. JUST ONE. SPEAKING OF MILL VALLEY SOUTH, IS THAT BIKE RACK EVER BEEN INSTALLED? I HAVEN'T CHECKED. I BELIEVE IT HAS. SO, JEREMY, I GUESS I CAN GO OUT AND CONFIRM. I'LL CALL YOU TOMORROW. OKAY. HEARING NO OTHER QUESTIONS.THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE. HEARING OF CITIZENS. THIS IS TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WHERE YOU CAN SPEAK ON A TOPIC THAT'S NOT RELATED TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA. HEARING. NONE. THERE'S AN
[APPOINTMENTS]
APPOINTMENT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. YES, I'M VERY PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A CITY MANAGER APPOINTMENT TONIGHT TO MICHELLE DANIEL TO THE SEAT ON THE UNION COUNTY JOINT REC DISTRICT AND FOR A TERM OF AUGUST 1ST, 2025 TO JULY 31ST, 2028. MICHELLE WILL BE TAKING THE PLACE OF LESLIE VARGAS, WHO'S GOING OFF THE BOARD. MICHELLE CAME HIGHLY RECOMMENDED AND I WOULD SAY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED FROM OUR POLICE CHIEF WHO IS WHO HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH MICHELLE IN SOME OF OUR YOUTH PROGRAMS OVER THE YEARS. I WOULD ALSO JUST REMIND YOU THAT WITH THE ADDITION OF MICHELLE, WE ALSO HAVE CHAD CLARIDGE, WHO'S ON THE OUR ONE OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES, AND AARON STORY, WHO'S ONE OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES ON THE JOINT REC BOARD. AND CHIEF BROOKS SERVES AS A PARIS TOWNSHIP REPRESENTATIVE. THERE ARE SEVEN MEMBERS ON THAT BOARD, AND WE HAVE THREE APPOINTMENTS TO THAT. SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK MICHELLE FOR TAKING THIS ON. REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND WELCOME YOU AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE PROGRESS THAT YOU CAN MAKE. AND ANYTIME WE ADD A NEW FACE, IT'S ALWAYS ADDING ONE MORE NEW LAYER TO AN ALREADY EXISTING PLAN JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER FOR EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATES IN IT. SO THANK YOU AND WE APPRECIATE IT. AND WE DID READ YOUR RESUME AND IT WAS
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IN YOUR LITTLE LETTER AND IT WAS VERY WELL WELL DONE. SO THANK YOU. RESOLUTIONS. OH I'M SORRY.DID WE DO THE HEARING OF CITIZEN BECAUSE WE WENT WE DID. YEAH WE DID THE APPOINTMENTS. YEAH I DID I SAID NOPE. NO ONE CAME UP AND MOVED VERY QUICK VERY QUICKLY OKAY. FINE. SO SORRY. SORRY.
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READ THE RESOLUTIONS. RESOLUTION A ONE READING ONLY TO ADOPT THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE URBAN FORESTRY STRATEGIC PLAN. MR. EVANS. AND I APOLOGIZE, ANDY. IT WAS UP AND NOW IT'S NOT. SO JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, ANDY HAD PROVIDED A PRESENTATION RECENTLY AT A AT A CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION. AND SO I THINK HE HAS A FEW SLIDES TONIGHT TO BRIEF EVERYBODY ON WHAT THIS IS. THIS IS A ONE READING ONLY RESOLUTION. ANDY, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU TERRY. FOR THE SLIDES. YEAH I'M GOOD OKAY. THEY'LL BE POPPING UP HERE IN A SECOND. THEY WILL COME UP. SO I'LL PIPE IN HERE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE STARTED IN DECEMBER OF 2022 WAS WHEN WE HAD THE KICKOFF MEETING. SO THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING. BUT THROUGH ANDY'S DILIGENCE WE WE'VE GOT A PLAN THAT INVOLVED A DECENT AMOUNT OF PUBLIC INPUT OR AS MUCH AS WE COULD GET THAT, THAT WE FEEL VERY HAPPY WITH. LOOKS LIKE WE'RE CLOSE ENOUGH THAT I COULD PROBABLY GET STARTED. WELL, GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, FOR THOSE HERE WHO MAY NOT KNOW ME, I AM. AS JEREMY AND TERRY SAID, I'M ANDY EVANS. I'M THE URBAN FORESTER FOR THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. I'VE BEEN SO FOR SEVEN YEARS, ON AND OFF NOW. SO TONIGHT I'M HONORED TO STAND BEFORE YOU TO INTRODUCE AND PRESENT OUR FIRST EVER URBAN FORESTRY STRATEGIC PLAN, CREATED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR CONSULTANTS AT PLANET GEO. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS DOCUMENT BECAUSE I SEE IT AS MORE THAN JUST A PLAN. I SEE IT AS A ROADMAP THAT'S DESIGNED TO GUIDE US INTO THE FUTURE HEALTH AND VITALITY OF OUR CITY'S GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE. ULTIMATELY, WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS HOW WE CAN COLLECTIVELY SUPPORT AND INVEST IN MARYSVILLE AND MARYSVILLE'S URBAN FOREST FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. AND I'LL CONCLUDE AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. BY ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN ITS ADOPTION. SO OUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT WILL FOLLOW THE OUTLINE OF THIS PLAN ITSELF, GUIDING YOU THROUGH ITS KEY SECTIONS TO PROVIDE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF ITS CONTENTS. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE WONDERING, THIS IS ALSO WHY WE'RE STARTING AT NUMBER TWO ON THIS SLIDE. AND NUMBER ONE IS THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY. SO WE'LL FOREGO THAT AND WE'LL START AT NUMBER TWO. SO WE'LL START WITH A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO THE PLANS CONTEXT AND HOW IT CAME ABOUT. AND THEN WE'LL DELVE INTO MARYSVILLE'S URBAN FOREST TODAY LOOKING AT ITS CURRENT STATE THROUGH A RECENT TREE CANOPY STUDY. AND THEN LOOK AT OUR INVENTORY ANALYSIS AS WELL. NEXT, WE'LL EXPLORE URBAN FORESTRY PRIORITIES THAT EMERGE FROM PUBLIC AND STAFF INPUT. AND NEXT WE'LL EXPLORE I'M SORRY.WE'LL WE'LL FINALLY DISCUSS STRATEGIC GROWTH WHICH IS THE HOW DO WE GET THERE PORTION OF THE SECTION COVERING FUNDING, BUDGETING AND THE URBAN FOREST PROGRAM AUDIT. SO I'M GOING TO START NOW BY GOING OVER THE. START NOW BY GOING OVER WHY THE PLAN IS SO IMPORTANT FOR MARYSVILLE. THIS STRATEGIC PLAN AS I MENTIONED, REALLY IS A COMPREHENSIVE ROADMAP. IT'S DESIGNED TO PROACTIVELY GUIDE OUR URBAN FOREST THROUGH THE NEXT DECADE OF MARYSVILLE'S GROWTH. IN THIS PROCESS, WE NEED TO FIRST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT TREES AREN'T MERELY ESTHETIC AMENITIES. THEY'RE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURES FOR OUR CITY, MUCH LIKE OUR ROADS AND UTILITIES, THEY PROVIDE REAL LONG TERM VALUE AND TANGIBLE BENEFITS TO OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY. AND TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THIS CONCRETE VALUE, OUR URBAN FOREST PROVIDES OVER $778,000 ANNUALLY IN MEASURABLE ECOSYSTEM SERVICES ALONE. THIS INCLUDES CONTRIBUTIONS LIKE CLEANING OUR AIR, MANAGING STORMWATER RUNOFF, AND EVEN HELPING TO LOWER ENERGY COSTS FOR RESIDENTS WHOM WE SERVE. WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING OF THE WHY, LET'S LOOK AT THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR URBAN FOREST THROUGH OUR CANOPY STUDY. OUR LATEST STUDY SHOWS THAT MARYSVILLE'S OVERALL TREE CANOPY COVERS 16.5% OF THE CITY. BASED ON 2023 DATA, THIS FIGURE ENCOMPASSES AN ANALYSIS OF TREE COVER ON BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PROPERTY, AND IT BASELINE FOR HD FUTURE PLANNING AND TREND ANALYSIS, AND ONE FINDING THAT I FIND PARTICULARLY INTERESTING IS
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THAT MORE THAN HALF OF THE AREA OF OUR CITY, 56% TO BE EXACT, WAS IDENTIFIED AS POSSIBLE PLANTING AREA OR AREAS WHERE TREES COULD BE PLANTED TODAY. THIS HIGHLIGHTS THE HUGE POTENTIAL WE HAVE FOR FUTURE CANOPY GROWTH THROUGH STRATEGIC GROWTH MANAGEMENT. THE STUDY LOOKED AT HISTORICAL DATA AS WELL, AND WHILE WE DID SEE A DECREASE IN OUR CANOPY BETWEEN 2011 AND 2019, INFLUENCED PRIMARILY BY CHALLENGES LIKE THE EMERALD ASH BORER, I'M PLEASED TO REPORT THAT OUR CANOPY HAS SINCE RECOVERED. THIS DEMONSTRATES MARYSVILLE'S CAPACITY FOR POSITIVE CHANGE AND GROWTH IN OUR URBAN FORESTS IN THE FUTURE, AND SO BEYOND THE OVERALL CANOPY. A CLOSER LOOK AT OUR STREET TREE INVENTORY, THE TREES THAT WE ACTIVELY MANAGE REVEAL SPECIFIC CHARACTERISTICS THAT STRONGLY SHAPE OUR STRATEGIC APPROACH AND OUR FUNDING NEEDS GOING FORWARD. OUR STREET TREE POPULATION IS A GROWING ASSET CURRENTLY, INCLUDING OVER 9000 STREET TREES, A NUMBER THAT CONTINUES TO EXPAND SIGNIFICANTLY WITH OUR CITY'S ONGOING GROWTH. THESE TREES ALONE REPRESENT A FUNCTIONAL REPLACEMENT VALUE OF OVER $15 MILLION, AGAIN HIGHLIGHTING THEIR SUBSTANTIAL WORTH AS A CITY ASSET. ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL FINDINGS FROM OUR ANALYSIS IS THE YOUNG AGE PROFILE OF OUR STREET TREES.OVER 60% ARE VERY YOUNG, UNDER SIX INCHES IN DIAMETER AT BREAST HEIGHT, AND ALMOST 90% OF OUR STREET TREES ARE UNDER 12IN IN DIAMETER AT BREAST HEIGHT. THIS MEANS THAT OUR URBAN FOREST CURRENTLY REQUIRES DEDICATED EARLY CARE. NOW, AS THESE YOUNG TREES MATURE AND AS AS THESE YOUNG TREES MATURE, WE ANTICIPATE A SIGNIFICANT FUTURE INCREASE IN MAINTENANCE NEEDS.
WE ALSO FACE A CLEAR SPECIES DIVERSITY CHALLENGE. OVER A THIRD OF OUR TREES BELONG TO THE GENUS MAPLE. THIS HIGH CONCENTRATION INCREASES OUR URBAN FOREST VULNERABILITY TO PESTS AND DISEASES, AS A SINGLE OUTBREAK COULD HAVE AN EXPANSIVE, WIDESPREAD IMPACT.
SIMILAR TO THE CHALLENGES WE'VE SEEN WITH EMERALD ASH BORER ALREADY, THIS LACK OF SPECIES DIVERSITY AND AGE DIVERSITY WITHIN OUR URBAN FOREST ARE ESPECIALLY CRITICAL TO ADDRESS AS MARYSVILLE CONTINUES ITS RAPID GROWTH. AS WE ARE ALL LIKELY AWARE, MARYSVILLE IS EXPERIENCING SIGNIFICANT GROWTH. OUR POPULATION HAS INCREASED BY APPROXIMATELY 18% IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AND THIS TREND IS PROJECTED TO CONTINUE. EXCUSE ME, THIS RAPID EXPANSION, WHILE EXCITING, DIRECTLY LEADS TO A NEW GENERATION OF TREES BEING PLANTED AND INTEGRATED INTO OUR URBAN LANDSCAPE AND MANAGEMENT PROCESSES. AS THESE TREES ARE ADDED AND AS THEY GROW, THEY'LL INEVITABLY INCREASE THE FUTURE COMPLEXITY AND COST OF THEIR MAINTENANCE. THIS MEANS PROACTIVE PLANNING AND STRATEGIC RESOURCE ALLOCATION ARE ESSENTIAL TO SUSTAINING THE BENEFITS OF OUR EXPANDING URBAN FOREST OVER TIME. WITHOUT THIS FORESIGHT AND INVESTMENT, WE FACE THE VERY REAL RISK OF DECLINING FOREST HEALTH, WHICH INCREASES PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS AND NEGATIVELY IMPACT PUBLIC PERCEPTION, POTENTIALLY CAUSING TREES TO BE SEEN AS A BURDEN RATHER THAN AN ASSET. THESE COULD ALSO LEAD TO A REDUCTION IN THE VALUABLE BENEFITS TREES PROVIDE. AND ULTIMATELY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, HIGHER LONG TERM COSTS DUE TO DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND REACTIVE MANAGEMENT. TO EFFECTIVELY MANAGE THIS GROWTH AND ENSURE A RESILIENT URBAN FOREST, WE'VE DEVELOPED A STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK BASED ON KEY PRIORITIES. THIS FRAMEWORK, WHICH WILL GUIDE OUR URBAN FORESTRY EFFORTS INTO THE FUTURE WITH SHAPED THROUGH INSIGHTS GATHERED FROM CITY STAFF, CONSULTATIONS AND PUBLIC SURVEYS, THIS PROCESS HELPED US TO IDENTIFY FIVE CENTRAL PRIORITIES THAT EMERGE FOR OUR URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT, WHICH ARE DESIGNED TO ALIGN OUR GOALS AND OUR ACTIONS WITH PUBLIC INTEREST, AND TO INTEGRATE OUR URBAN FORESTRY PRACTICES INTO OTHER CITY PRIORITIES. THE FIVE PRIORITIES WE IDENTIFIED ARE ONE. PROACTIVELY MAINTAIN PUBLIC TREES. TWO. IMPLEMENT A STRATEGIC TREE PLANTING PLAN THREE. STRENGTHEN TREE PRESERVATION EFFORTS, FOUR MITIGATE HARDSCAPE CONFLICTS, AND LASTLY, FIVE FOSTER COMMUNITY STEWARDSHIP. ACHIEVING THESE PRIORITIES, OF COURSE, REQUIRES A COMMITMENT TO SUSTAINABLE AND STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABLE URBAN FORESTRY, AT LEAST FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT, WE KNOW THAT FUNDING LEVELS THAT KEEP PACE WITH OUR GROWTH ARE ESSENTIAL FOR SUCCESSFUL IN A SAFE PROGRAM. OUR PLAN EMPHASIZES THAT PROACTIVE INVESTMENT NOW PREVENTS COSTLY DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND AVOIDS THE DECLINE OF OUR TREE CANOPY AND ITS ASSOCIATED BENEFITS IN THE FUTURE. THE PLAN INTRODUCES A PROACTIVE LEVELS OF SERVICE FRAMEWORK DESIGNED TO ALLOW FOR TRANSPARENT ALIGNMENT OF RESOURCES WITH OUR EVOLVING NEEDS AND PUBLIC PUBLIC SAFETY
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GOALS, AS WELL AS CLEARLY SHOWING WHAT EACH LEVEL OF INVESTMENT DELIVERS. FOR CONTEXT, WHILE INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES SUGGEST THAT A REASONABLE FUNDING LEVEL TYPICALLY FALLS WITHIN THE 20 TO $30 PER CAPITA RANGE, MARYSVILLE IS CURRENTLY SPENDING ABOUT $15 PER CAPITA ON OUR STREET TREE MANAGEMENT ALONE. OUR PLAN IDENTIFIES THAT THE MODERATE $25 PER CAPITA AS A RECOMMENDED GOAL TO ACHIEVE BY 2030, ALL THREE LEVELS PRESENTED IN THE PLAN, HOWEVER, ARE CONSIDERED REASONABLE FUNDING APPROACHES, WITH ACTUAL FUNDING LEVELS EXPECTED TO BE DETERMINED BY YOU, CITY COUNCIL AND IN COORDINATION WITH STAFF AND ALIGNED WITH THE CITY'S OVERALL FINANCIAL HEALTH. THIS STRATEGIC INVESTMENT APPROACH IS DIRECTLY INFORMED AND SHAPED THROUGH A PROGRAM AUDIT AND CLEAR, ACTIONABLE GOALS. AS A FOUNDATIONAL STEP IN DEVELOPING THIS PLAN, OUR CONSULTANTS CONDUCTED AN URBAN FOREST PROGRAM AUDIT, WHICH IS A FRAMEWORK DEVELOPED BY THE US FOREST SERVICE. THIS EVALUATION ALLOWED US TO THOROUGHLY ASSESS OUR CURRENT OPERATIONS, IDENTIFY STRENGTHS WE CAN BUILD UPON, AS WELL AS OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE. MARYSVILLE RECEIVED AN OVERALL SCORE OF 50%, WHICH DOESN'T SOUND THAT GOOD, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY QUITE GOOD FOR A CITY OF OUR SIZE AND GROWTH RATE. THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THIS AUDIT, THOUGH, IS THAT IS NOT THE SCORE, BUT THAT IT HELPS US TO PINPOINT SPECIFIC AREAS WHERE WE CAN FOCUS OUR ATTENTION IN COMBINATION WITH THE PRIORITIES WE IDENTIFIED EARLIER. AND BASED ON THESE INSIGHTS, THE PLAN OUTLINED SIX OVERARCHING GOALS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO STRATEGICALLY GROW MARYSVILLE'S URBAN FOREST. THESE GOALS PROVIDE CLEAR DIRECTION FOR OUR EFFORTS MOVING FORWARD, AND THEY DEFINE THE ACTIONS WE MIGHT TAKE. IMPORTANTLY, THIS ENTIRE FRAMEWORK SUPPORTS ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT, MEANING THAT WE CAN CONTINUALLY TRACK OUR PROGRESS, LEARN FROM OUR SUCCESSES, AND EVOLVE AS NEW INFORMATION BECOMES AVAILABLE. THESE GOALS ARE REALLY THE PILLARS OF OUR STRATEGIC GROWTH, AND YOU CAN SEE THEM SUMMARIZED HERE. GOAL ONE FOCUSES ON ENSURING OUR REGULATIONS SUPPORT FOREST HEALTH. GOAL TWO IS ABOUT BUILDING THE EXPERTISE OF OUR TEAM THROUGH CAPACITY, TRAINING AND AUTHORITY. GOAL THREE ADDRESSES SECURING THE NEEDED RESOURCES THROUGH BUDGETING AND FUNDING. GOAL FOUR EMPHASIZES USING DATA TO INFORM OUR DECISIONS THROUGH ASSESSMENTS AND PLANS. GOAL FIVE IS ABOUT FOSTERING STEWARDSHIP AMONG OUR RESIDENTS THROUGH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AND FINALLY, GOAL SIX FOCUSES ON PROACTIVELY CARING FOR OUR TREES THROUGH GREEN ASSET MANAGEMENT, PERFORMING WELL IN EACH OF THESE AREAS IS CRITICAL TO CONTINUE BUILDING A HEALTHY, RESILIENT, AND THRIVING URBAN FOREST FOR MARYSVILLE. SO IN CLOSING, I WANT TO REITERATE HOW IMPORTANT I THINK THIS PLAN IS FOR US AND GUIDING OUR FUTURE AND COMMUNICATE OUR IMMEDIATE NEXT STEPS. TODAY, WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR CONSENT IN THE ADOPTION OF MARYSVILLE'S FIRST EVER URBAN FORESTRY STRATEGIC PLAN. THIS STEP WILL ALLOW US TO FINALIZE THE PLAN, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE'LL BE ABLE TO IMMEDIATELY BEGIN USING IT TO INFORM OUR FUTURE BUDGETS AND OPERATIONS. YOUR CONSENT TODAY IS NOT JUST ABOUT TREES. IT'S A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN MARYSVILLE'S FUTURE, ENSURING WE CONTINUE TO BUILD GREENER, HEALTHIER AND MORE BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY IT FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE. WELL, BEFORE WE GET TO COUNCIL, WE'RE ASKED CITIZENS AS CITIZENS HAVE ANY STATEMENTS THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE. HEARING NONE. OKAY, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL. COUNCIL? ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY? DO YOU? OKAY. GO AHEAD. I DO, I DO. THANKS AGAIN FOR COMING OUT LAST WEEK AND GIVING US THE FULL 100 PAGE VERSION. AND I WAS HOPING THAT MAYBE TODAY YOU WOULD HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW PAGE 19 FOR YOUR MEMORY. THIS IS THE PAGE 19. YOU PROBABLY KNOW THIS ONE. OH, OKAY. OKAY. ANYWAY, AND THE REASON THAT THIS ONE JUMPS OUT AT ME IS THAT ESPECIALLY HAVING LIVED IN HISTORIC MARYSVILLE, IT SEEMS LIKE TREES, CONSIDERATION OF TREES IN THE PAST HAS OFTEN BEEN AN AFTERTHOUGHT. YEAH, AND AS I WAS READING THE TWO PODS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US TODAY, BOTH OF THOSE MAKE THE SAME STATEMENT THAT BETWEEN THE CURB AND THE[00:40:01]
WALKING PATH WALKING PATH NOW NEEDING TO BE FIVE FEET WIDE, THERE IS A NINE FEET SPACE WHICH OUR ZONING NOW MANDATES FOR THE PLANTING OF TREES. YEAH. AND IF I LOOK AT THIS ONE HERE, I CAN JUST BARELY SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CURB AND THE SIDEWALK. ONLY THREE FEET, MIND YOU, THAT THIS, THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT COULD HAVE BEEN 100, 150 YEARS AGO. YEAH. BUT AS WE HAVE LEARNED AND AS WE HAVE MENTALLY GROWN OVER TIME, THE NEED THAT WE SEE FOR SURVIVAL, BECAUSE MANY OF THOSE STREETS AND I'M THINKING SPECIFICALLY ONE WHICH IS SEVENTH STREET, A PERSON IN A WHEELCHAIR WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT FROM ONE FROM POINT A TO POINT B, BECAUSE MANY OF THE TREES HAVE MATURED OVER TIME. AND AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING 50, 60 YEARS. YEAH. BUT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK IS THAT WHAT YOU SEE ABOVE GROUND, THE SAME THING HAPPENS UNDER GROUND.YEAH. SO IF THE IF THE CANOPY IS 40FT WIDE, THE ROOT SYSTEM IS ALSO 40 FOOT WIDE AND IT PUSHES UP THE, THE SIDEWALK. YEAH. SO AND AGAIN THE TREES THAT ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE UPRIGHT. SO THAT MEANS THAT THEY HAVE MORE OF A TAPROOT. AND THEN THE WIDTH THAT WE ARE GIVING THE CURB TO THE SIDEWALK WITH NINE FEET. YEAH. GIVES GIVES THE TREE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SURVIVE AND MAKE IT INTO A FUTURE TREE. SO IT JUST SHOWS THAT WE HAD A LOT OF LEARNING TO DO OVER THE LAST 150 YEARS. AND, AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU BRING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION AND MAYBE HAVE BEEN PART OF THE ZONING AND SAYING THAT, HEY, WE KNOW THAT 3 OR 4 FOOT WIDE STREET SPACE IS NOT ENOUGH FOR TREES. IT NEEDS TO BE NINE. SO WE ARE BEGINNING TO REALLY TAKE THIS SERIOUS. AND THE REPORT THAT YOU MADE AVAILABLE TO US REALLY REFLECTED. SO I WANTED TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE AND THE PICTURES THAT YOU MADE AVAILABLE TO US TO SEE THE POTENCY OF WHERE AND THE DIRECTION THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO GO INTO. SO WITH THAT, THIS ONE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD? I'LL JUST START OUT BY IF I CAN HERE IN A MINUTE. I'LL START OUT BY QUOTING THE LORAX. AND THE LORAX SAYS HE SPEAKS FOR THE TREES. AND UNLESS SOMEONE LIKE YOU CARES AND WHOLE AWFUL LOT, NOTHING'S GOING TO GET BETTER. IT'S NOT. AND I READ THAT QUOTE BECAUSE LAST YEAR OR WHEN WE CREATED THIS, I URGED COUNCIL TO CREATE THIS PLAN BECAUSE AS RESIDENTS CONTINUE TO ASK FOR THE PROTECTION OF OPEN SPACE, PROTECTION OF WOODS, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, YOU HAVE TO PUT IT IN ZONING TEXTS BECAUSE A WISH LIST IS A WISH LIST. BUT IF YOU PUT IT IN ZONING TEXT, THEN IT'S SOMETHING THE CITY HAS TO HEAR BY. AND WE ARE NOW KNOWING THAT OUR TREE CANOPY SHOULD BE AND COULD BE RAISED. WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S 56% OF OUR LAND MASS THAT NEEDS A LOT MORE TREES. YOU CAN ALSO DRIVE DOWN COLEMAN'S CROSSING AND YOU CAN SEE BIG MASSES OF GRASS WHERE TREES COULD BE GROUPING OF TREES COULD BE. AND THERE'S OTHER AREAS IN OUR PARKS THAT MORE TREES COULD, COULD, COULD BE ALSO GROWN. ALSO, THE IMPORTANCE OF STREET WIDTHS TO BE WIDENED IS VERY VITAL BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A STREET LINE THAT'S ONLY 3 OR 4 FOOT WIDE, YOU MIGHT PLANT LIKE A FLOWERING CRAB, WHICH HAS A LIFE SPAN, LET'S SAY OF 20 YEARS. OR YOU CAN HAVE A STRAIGHT LINE OF NINE FEET WIDE THAT HAS A YOU MIGHT WANT TO PLANT A SYCAMORE AND OAK TREE, WHICH HAS A LIFESPAN, LET'S SAY, OF 60, 70 YEARS. SO THE LIFESPAN OF A LARGER TREE ON A LARGER STREET LAWN IS MORE BENEFICIAL TO A COMMUNITY THAN THAN A FLOWERING TREE, EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE LOVES THOSE PRETTY FLOWERS IN THE SPRING. SO ALL OF THIS, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT AND THE DEDICATION THAT WE HAVE TOWARDS ALSO REMEMBERING THAT, AND I THINK IT'S 1888, MARYSVILLE WAS NICKNAMED, YOU KNOW, THE SHADED CITY BECAUSE YOU COULD DRIVE DOWN ANY STREET AND NEVER SEE THE SUNLIGHT. SO AND THAT WAS BEFORE THE TWISTER OF 74, WHICH BLEW THEM ALL OUT.
BUT SO JUST REBRANDING OURSELVES BACK TO OUR ROOTS, LITERALLY, AND WHO WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY
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AND, AND PLANTING THOSE TREES AND CONTINUE TO DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO ENSURE NOW WITH THIS HAVING CODE THAT'S WRITTEN THAT SAYS NINE FOOT STREET LAWNS AND ENSURING THAT CODE IS WRITTEN TO ADD MORE CANOPY TO OUR, TO OUR TREES, TO OUR OVERALL SHADED COMMUNITY IN THE FUTURE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE WORK AND FOR EVERYBODY WHO WHO WORKED ON THIS AND THE COMMUNITY TO PUT PUT A VOICE IN THIS. AND I HAVE NOTHING MORE TO SAY. AND IF NO ONE ELSE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY, THEN IS THERE A MOTION, A QUESTION? OKAY, SO NORMALLY WE ALREADY HAD CITIZENS SPEAK, BUT. IF YOU I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN NORMALLY SINCE I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN, BUT SINCE YOU'RE ALL ALL ALLOW YOU TO COME UP HERE AND COME UP, COME UP HERE AND TALK. IF YOU WANT TO ASK A QUESTION REGARDING THE TREE SYSTEM IS BEING PUT UP. YEAH, YEAH. YOU HAVE TO STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, AND THEN ALSO STATE YOUR QUESTION. OR YOU CAN JUST GET CONTACT INFORMATION FROM MR. EVANS AND HE CAN EMAIL YOU WITH YOUR WITH WITH YOUR ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IF THAT'S EASIER FOR YOU. OKAY. OKAY. SORRY. SO IS THERE A MOTION TO PASS THIS LEGISLATION, MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. ROLL CALL. MR. WOLFF. YES. MR. BURR YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REMES YES. MR. BORDNER YES. SIX.[Res. B]
YES. LEGISLATION PASSES RESOLUTION BE. RESOLUTION BE FIRST READING TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO APPLY FOR THE CENTRAL OHIO PLANNING ORGANIZATION DEDICATED FUNDS PROGRAM AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY. I FORGOT THIS ONE. THANKS, JENNIFER. SO WE ARE APPLYING FOR GRANT FUNDING FOR THE EAST FIFTH STREET IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. SO AS JENNIFER MENTIONED, IT'S THROUGH THE CENTRAL OHIO RURAL PLANNING ORGANIZATION. SO WE CALL IT CORPO FOR AN ACRONYM. IT IS A KIND OF A SUBCOMMITTEE FROM MORPC. SO IT'S IT INVOLVES ALL OF THE KIND OF THE OUTSIDE RURAL COMMUNITIES IN CENTRAL OHIO, AND WE'RE ONE OF THEM. THE APPLICATION, THE DEADLINE WAS DUE LAST FRIDAY. SO WE SUBMITTED OUR DEADLINE KNOWING THAT WE HAD THIS LEGISLATION ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA UP ON THE SCREEN HERE. IT KIND OF SHOWS THE CURRENT FUNDING BREAKDOWN FOR THE EAST FIFTH STREET PROJECT. WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED QUITE A BIT OF FUNDING, BUT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD GO AFTER EVEN MORE FUNDING. SO CURRENTLY YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE IN THIS LEFT COLUMN, WE HAVE THE TOTAL CONSTRUCTION PRICE RIGHT NOW IS AROUND 2 MILLION. LET'S JUST CALL IT 2.5 MILLION. WE'RE RECEIVING ABOUT 1.3 MILLION FROM THE ODOT LARGE CITIES FUNDS. AND THEN LAST YEAR WE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION THROUGH OPWC FOR 550,000. AND THAT WAS APPROVED. SO THOSE ARE CURRENTLY APPROVED FUNDS ALLOCATED TO THIS PROJECT. THAT LEAVES JUST OVER $600,000 IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR NEXT YEAR. OKAY, WE LOOKED AT THAT AND WE THOUGHT THERE'S A FUNDING OPPORTUNITY. LET'S KIND OF GO AFTER IT IF WE COULD. SO WE ARE REQUESTING $500,000 FROM CORPO FOR THIS PROJECT. AND I KNOW WE'RE ASKING FOR AN EMERGENCY.AND THE REASON FOR THE EMERGENCY CLAUSE WAS THE DEADLINE WAS LAST FRIDAY. WE WERE WORKING BACK AND FORTH WITH CORPO TO DETERMINE IF WE NEEDED LEGISLATION ON IT, AND WE FOUND OUT WE DID LIKE ON TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY. THEIR APPLICATION PACKET STATED THAT THE ENTITY HAS TO COMMIT TO MAINTAIN THE FACILITY AND EQUIPMENT OR ACTIVITY AS PROPOSED. AND WE JUST ASSUMED BEING THAT IT'S A CITY RIGHT OF WAY, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE ANYWAY. SO WE WERE GETTING THAT CLARIFICATION. THEY RESPONDED SAYING WE STILL NEED LEGISLATION. SO THEY ALLOWED US TO SUBMIT OUR OPWC FUNDING LEGISLATION, WHERE COUNCIL COMMITTED TO THE FUNDS TO PAY FOR THE PROJECT. THEY SAID THAT WOULD BE FINE UNTIL THIS LEGISLATION PASSED. SO BASICALLY THIS JUST LOWERS OUR FUND OR OUR GENERAL FUND AMOUNT IN THE 2027 BUDGET FROM 606,000 DOWN TO 106,000. IF WE GET APPROVED. ANY QUESTIONS? 20, 26 OR 7 2026 I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY
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THAT I HEARD 27 IF ANYBODY ELSE DID, BUT THANK YOU. THE ONLY OTHER GRANT I'D LIKE YOU TO FIND IS BURYING THOSE POWER LINES. I KNOW IF ANYBODY FINDS ONE, LET ME KNOW. OKAY? BEAR IN THE POWER LINES. WITHOUT A LOCAL MATCH OF, LIKE 50%. YEAH, WE NEED TO. WE NEED TO CALL JUST EPA NOW AND JUST TELL THEM. JUST DO IT. IT. DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY POINT OF CLARIFICATION? THE REASON WHY? JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THE REASON WHY THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT REQUIRES THREE READINGS IS BECAUSE OF THAT MATCH, THAT 20% MATCH. OTHERWISE IT WOULD JUST BE A ONE READING RESOLUTION THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. BUT BECAUSE OF THE MATCH, IT NEEDS THREE READINGS AND IT HAS A REFERENDUM PERIOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION.SO THE OPWC THE 550. YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE USED FREQUENTLY. CORRECT. ALMOST EVERY YEAR. RIGHT. AND AVAILABLE. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE CODE FUNDING BUT YEAH THAT'S THAT'S SO THAT'S THIS LEGISLATION. THIS IS THE COURT. BUT WHAT WHAT IS THE FUNDING. SO IT'S THE CENTRAL OHIO RURAL PLANNING ORGANIZATION IS KIND OF A SUBSET FOR MORSI. SO MORSI GETS AN ALLOCATED AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS IN CENTRAL OHIO. THIS IS THE SECOND FUNDING CYCLE CYCLE. WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED FUNDING FOR THE STATE ROUTE 31 PHASE THREE PROJECT. WE RECEIVED $200,000 FOR THAT PROJECT THROUGH CORPO TWO YEARS AGO. THE CYCLE IS EVERY TWO, 2 OR 3 YEARS, I BELIEVE. SO NOW IT'S A NEW FUNDING CYCLE. I BELIEVE THERE'S ABOUT $2.4 MILLION IN AVAILABLE FUNDING THIS CYCLE BETWEEN. I THINK THERE'S 11 COMMUNITIES ASSOCIATED WITH CORPO. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO WELL, OF COURSE WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OPWC. WE HAVE THE OPWC THAT CONDITION. BUT FOR FUTURE SOME INITIALLY THEY TOOK IT OFF AND NOW THEY'RE PUTTING IT BACK IN AGAIN CORRECT. YEAH. SO THAT'S YEAH THE APPLICATION DEADLINE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS GOING TO PASS THE BALLOT ISSUE IN MAY.
THE APPLICATION DEADLINE IS NOT UNTIL OCTOBER. SO WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON A PROJECT AND WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR LEGISLATION TO APPLY FOR THAT. OKAY. THANKS FOR THE EXPLANATION. APPRECIATE IT. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE FROM COUNCIL HEARING? NONE. I THINK IT'S GREAT IF WE CAN SAVE A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS GRANT. SO I MOVED TO PASS THE EMERGENCY CLAUSE. BROKE ROLL CALL MR. BURR. YES. MR. BURGER? YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. YES.
MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLF. YES, YES. THANK YOU. SO I MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE THIRD READING ROLL CALL, MR. BURGER. YES. MR. HUNTER? YES. MR. REMES YES. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLF.
YES. MR. BURBY. YES. SIX. YES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE SECOND READING ROLL CALL, MR. HUNTER. YES, MR. RAMOS? YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. WOLF. YES. MR. BURR YES. MR. BURGER? YES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. ROLL CALL, MR. RAINS. YES. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLF. YES. MR. BURBY YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. SIX. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU.
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ORDINANCES. ORDINANCE A THIRD READING VOTE TO APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING FOR THE HICKORY WOODS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUD. AND THIS HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY THE DEVELOPER TO BE TABLED. THIRD READING UNTIL SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2025. SO IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, I MOVE TO TABLE THIS TO SEPTEMBER 22ND. ROLL CALL. MR. BORDNER. YES. YES, YES. MR. BURR YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REAMES. YES. SIX. YES. THANK YOU. ORDINANCE B. ORDINANCE B, SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING TO[Ord. B]
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REITERATE, THIS IS A REALLY, ACTUALLY A GOOD PROGRAM WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF MAINTAINING ITS ITS EQUIPMENT, VEHICLES, WHAT HAVE YOU. AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO AUCTION OFF SOME END OF LIFE EQUIPMENT. AND THEN THE BENEFIT OF IT IS THE, THE REVENUES OR THE, THE, THE, THE MONIES THAT ARE RECEIVED FROM THOSE AUCTIONED OR THE AUCTIONS THAT THOSE FUNDS GET TO GO INTO THE RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENTS FUND TO INVEST IN FUTURE FUTURE EQUIPMENT NEEDS. SO APPRECIATE EVERY EVERYBODY'S DUE DILIGENCE ON MAINTAINING EQUIPMENT. BUT WE RECOGNIZE THAT ALL GOOD THINGS MUST COME TO AN END. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. WE SHOULD WRITE THAT ON HALLMARK CARD. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING AND VOTE ON AUGUST[Ord. C]
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ON AUGUST 25TH, 2025. ORDINANCE D ORDINANCE D SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING TO AUTHORIZE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH AMAZON DATA SERVICES, INC. AND THE GRANTING OF CERTAIN EASEMENTS IN CONNECTION WITH THE SALE OF CERTAIN CITY OWNED REAL PROPERTY BY THE COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT CORPORATION OF UNION COUNTY IN ORDER TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AS PART OF THE 33 INNOVATION PARK DEVELOPMENT AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY ADMINISTRATION NOTHING FURTHER. ERIC, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER ON THIS? OKAY. THANK YOU CITIZENS. AND THEN COUNCIL, I MOVE TO AMEND THE LEGISLATION TO REMOVE THE EMERGENCY CLAUSE. OKAY. AND IT'S JUST THERE IS NO ROLL CALL. RIGHT. ROLL CALL. MR. YES. MR. BURR YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REMES YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. SIX. YES. AND THEN SECOND READING, PUBLIC HEARING ORDINANCE D, AS AMENDED. THAT'S. IS THERE A YES. THAT'S CORRECT. YES. SORRY. YEAH. DOES ADMINISTRATION HAVE ANYTHING. FIRST THEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING FURTHER. DOES CITIZENS HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY. COUNCIL. OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE THIRD READING ROLL CALL, MR. BURR YES, MR. BURGER? YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REMES YES. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLFE NO. SIX. EXCUSE ME. FIVE. YES. ONE. NO. FAILS. AND THEN COMES BACK FOR THIRD READING. OKAY. SO THEN. THAT THREW ME FOR A LOOP. SO AT THE NEXT MEETING, BE BACK FOR THE NEXT MOTION TO WAIVE THIRD READING FAILED. OKAY. YOU NEED SIX VOTES OKAY. AND SO THEREFORE IT'S NOT WAIVED. SO YOU'LL HAVE TO CONTINUE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING OKAY. SO OKAY.SO THIS WILL BE BACK ON AUGUST 25TH. AUGUST 25TH. THANK YOU. THIS WILL BE BACK SEPTEMBER.
AUGUST 25TH 2025. OKAY. ORDINANCE ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING. INTRODUCTION TO APPROVE
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PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING FOR THE TRAILS THAT WEAVER RIDGE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ASHLEY, WHO'S GOING TO DO A BRIEF PRESENTATION. AND THEN DO WE HAVE WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE. OKAY. GOTCHA. GOOD EVENING. SO TRAILS AT WEAVER RIDGE WAS APPROVED[01:00:03]
THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION AT THE JULY MEETING. SO THIS WILL BE THEIR FIRST READING TONIGHT AND THEY WILL GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION. BUT JUST KIND OF TO WALK YOU THROUGH REAL QUICK KIND OF THAT PROCESS AT PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THEY ORIGINALLY STARTED WITH THE SKETCH PLAN AT THE NOVEMBER MEETING WHICH WAS APPROVED. SIX. YES. ZERO. NO. AND THEN THEY WENT ON TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND THEY HAD THEY ATTENDED THE MEETING IN MAY, WHICH THE APPLICATION WAS TABLED AT THAT TIME WITH SOME DISCUSSION ITEMS RELATED TO THE SITE PLAN. AND THEY CAME BACK TO THE JULY MEETING, AND THAT APPLICATION WAS APPROVED IN JULY. WE HAVE ABOUT 101 ACRES OR SO HERE, 250 UNITS, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT LOT SIZES OF 55, 66 AND 70 SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, KIND OF INTERMIXED. OPEN SPACE IS ABOUT ALMOST JUST UNDER 20%, WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE THE RETENTION PONDS. AND THEY HAVE TRAILS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD AS WELL. SO I WILL HAND IT OVER TO GARY TO GIVE AN INTRODUCTION ON ON THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE APPLICATION, AND COULD GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THAT PROPOSED SITE PLAN. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'LL TRY TO GET CONNECTED UP HERE. I THINK LAST TIME WE TRIED THIS IT TOOK A COUPLE SECONDS. OH, THERE IT IS RIGHT AWAY. LOOK AT THAT. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, GENTLEMEN. GOOD EVENING. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. I, I KNOW THAT THE FIRST READING IS KIND OF JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE INTRODUCTION OF THE PROJECT.I DO HAVE KIND OF AN EXCITING ANNOUNCEMENT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD BEEN KIND OF STRUGGLING WITH AS WE WENT THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION IS WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A BUILDER PARTNER ENGAGED, SO WE REALLY COULDN'T GIVE PLANNING COMMISSION KIND OF AN IDEA OF WHAT THE ARCHITECTURE LOOKED LIKE, WHICH IS WHY IN OUR TEXT WE STIPULATED THAT WE WOULD COME BACK TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WITH THE ARCHITECTURE AND FINAL SITE PLAN. YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THAT PROCESS. SO WE WOULD WE WOULD GO BACK TO DESIGN REVIEW BOARD FOR APPROVAL OF THAT. WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE A BUILDER PARTNER ENGAGED NOW. WE STILL ARE COMMITTING TO COME BACK TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN SHARE SOME OF THIS ARCHITECTURE WITH THE COUNCIL SO THE COUNCIL CAN GET KIND OF A BETTER PICTURE OF WHAT IT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD BE LOOKING AT AND ULTIMATELY WHAT THEY WOULD BE VOTING ON. SO I'M GOING TO JUST GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE SITE PLAN. I HAVE THE BUILDER HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND JUST KIND OF SHOW YOU SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURE, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE WITH THE, WITH THE BOARD. SO THIS IS AS ASHLEY SAID, THIS IS RIGHT DOWN ON WEAVER ROAD. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 101 ACRES. THERE'S THE MAP ITSELF. IT'S RIGHT BELOW ADINA POINT AND THE WEAVER RIDGE SUBDIVISION, AND IT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM WHAT IS KIND OF THE FUTURE NEW ALBANY BUSINESS PARK, THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. IT IS IN THE CITY, SO IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANNEXATION. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO MENTION IS IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF THE LAST DEVELOPABLE PIECE ALONG THAT LEG OF WEAVER ROAD. THE SEWERS ARE NOT DESIGNED TO EXTEND ANY FURTHER THAN THAT PIECE, SO THIS WILL BE, IN EFFECT, THE LAST PIECE TO DEVELOP ALONG THAT CORRIDOR. AS WE MENTIONED, IT'S LOCATED RIGHT BELOW ADINA POINT, WEAVER RIDGE. THOSE ARE ZONED CURRENTLY SRT.
THE SITE ITSELF IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, AND THE SITE IS, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY ROLLING, BUT IT'S PRETTY MUCH WIDE OPEN. AND SO THERE'S MAYBE 1 OR 2 TREES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FARM FIELD, BUT IT'S ALMOST ENTIRELY AGRICULTURE. WE HAVE NO TREE STANDS, ALL OF THE DRAINAGE RIGHT NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, ALMOST ALL OF THE DRAINAGE REALLY COMES BACK DOWN TO THIS POINT DOWN HERE. SO THE SITE REALLY ALL FLOWS IN THIS DIRECTION, BUT THERE'S NO REAL STREAMS OR ANY KIND OF SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF. WE ACTUALLY STARTED THIS PROCESS BACK IN APRIL OF 2024. SO WE'VE BEEN AT THIS ACTUALLY FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR, AND WE STARTED THE PROCESS UNDERSTANDING THAT WE REALLY NEEDED TO REACH OUT TO A BUNCH OF PEOPLE. WE ACTUALLY WHEN WE INITIALLY DEVELOPED OUR CONCEPT, WE CAME IN AND HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH THE CITY. I KNOW A
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COUPLE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE IN ATTENDANCE AT THAT MEETING. GAVE US SOME FEEDBACK.WE TOOK THAT. SO THIS WAS THE KIND OF THE INITIAL CONCEPT THAT WE LOOKED AT. YOU KNOW, THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT WAS THAT WE WANTED TO SEE A LITTLE BIT LESS DENSITY, SOMETHING MAYBE MORE EQUAL TO THE COMMUNITIES TO THE NORTH. AND SO WE REDUCED THAT DOWN AND CAME BACK FOR A SKETCH PLAN. AND OCTOBER. AND THIS WAS THE, THE, THE PLAN THAT WE SUBMITTED FOR THE CONCEPTUAL OR THE SKETCH PLAN APPLICATION TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND WALKED OUT OF THERE WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND ALSO KIND OF A AN UNDERSTANDING THAT WE NEEDED TO STUDY THE SEWER PIECE A LITTLE FURTHER. WE NEEDED TO DO SOME INFILTRATION AND SOME OTHER THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SEWER CAPACITY COULD HANDLE THE DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO KIND OF SORT THROUGH THAT PROCESS BEFORE WE COULD ACTUALLY BRING BACK THE FULL APPLICATION. SO WE CAME BACK INITIALLY WITH THIS PLAN THAT WAS PART OF OUR FORMAL APPLICATION. WE DID THAT BACK IN MARCH. AS ASHLEY MENTIONED, WE WENT TO OUR FIRST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. WE GOT A NUMBER OF FEEDBACK. ONE OF THOSE FEEDBACKS WAS TO KIND OF INCREASE THE LOT SIZES ALONG THE NORTH, ALONG OUR BOUNDARY WITH ADINA POINT AND WEAVER RIDGE. SO WE MADE THAT CHANGE AND THERE WAS A THERE WAS A HANDFUL OF OTHER COMMENTS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD. ONE OF THEM WAS THEY WANTED TO SEE A BETTER DISTRIBUTION OF THE STORMWATER POND THAT WE HAVE DOWN IN THE CORNER, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S KIND OF WHERE ALL THE SITE DRAINS.
THEY WANTED TO SEE SOME MORE STORMWATER PONDS DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT SOME OF THE OTHER OPEN SPACES FOR ESTHETIC REASONS. AFTER TALKING TO OUR ENGINEER, WE DECIDED WE COULD MAKE THAT CHANGE AS WELL. AND SO WE DID THAT AND WE ENDED UP BASICALLY AGREEING TO ALL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S COMMENTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE. AND THAT WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION WANTED TO ASK US IF WE WOULD CONSIDER INCORPORATING SOME ALLEYS INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT WASN'T A FEASIBLE THING FOR US, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ASKED US TO DO, WE AGREED TO. AND AS A RESULT, WE GOT A UNANIMOUS WE GOT A UNANIMOUS VOTE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. OF THE MEMBERS WHO VOTED, A COUPLE OF MEMBERS DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO ABSTAIN FOR CONFLICT REASONS. SO THAT'S WHERE WE WERE. WE CHANGED. SO WE CHANGED BACK. AND THIS IS WHAT WE BROUGHT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THIS IS THE PLAN THAT ULTIMATELY GOT PLANNING COMMISSION'S APPROVAL. SO AS ASHLEY MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE 101 ACRES, 250 LOTS. IT'S 2.5, 2.45 UNITS TO THE ACRE. WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 20% OPEN SPACE. AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THE PONDS. IF YOU INCLUDE THE PONDS, WE HAVE ABOUT 28% OPEN SPACE. WE'VE DISTRIBUTED THE STORMWATER FUNCTIONS KIND OF IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE SITE. SO FROM AN ESTHETIC STANDPOINT, WE CAN CREATE A LITTLE BIT MORE INTEREST IN THOSE OPEN SPACES, CREATE WALKING PATHS AROUND THE PONDS. AND YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT KIND OF A NETWORK OF WALKING PATHS THAT REALLY WRAP AROUND. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU IF YOU CAN FOLLOW THIS IF IT'S THICK ENOUGH, BUT WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT WALKING PATHS THAT KIND OF WRAP AROUND, CONNECT UP TO ALL OF THESE OPEN SPACES AND KIND OF CARRY THROUGHOUT THERE. AND SO AS ASHLEY MENTIONED, THIS IS A MIX OF LOT SIZES. IT'S 55, 66 AND 70 FOOT LOTS. SO THE 70 FOOT LOTS ARE PRIMARILY WHAT WE DID IS WE MOVED THOSE UP TO THE NORTH. AND WE HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, SPRINKLED THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN THE 66 FOOT LOTS ARE KIND OF AROUND THE PERIMETER, AND THE INTERIOR ARE MORE OF THE 55 FOOT LOTS. THIS IS BASICALLY A SAME VERSION OF WHAT YOU JUST LOOKED AT, OPEN SPACE. SO THIS IS KIND OF AN OPEN SPACE DIAGRAM. IT JUST GIVES YOU A MORE CLEAR INDICATION OF WHAT IS OPEN SPACE. AGAIN, NOT INCLUDING THE POND AREAS AND KIND OF THE PATH NETWORK THAT SHOWS UP A LITTLE BIT BETTER HERE. LANDSCAPING, OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT TO COME BACK TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WITH FINAL LANDSCAPING OF ALL THESE OPEN SPACE AREAS, FINAL AMENITIES, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. WE ARE WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THE AMENITIES NOW, SO WE MAY BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO YOU BY THE TIME WE GET TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING, WITH MORE DETAIL ON WHAT THE OPEN SPACES ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE. AND SO WE'RE WORKING TO DEVELOP THAT NOW, OF COURSE, LANDSCAPING STREET TREES ACCORDING TO CITY STANDARDS, NINE FEET TREE LAWNS. WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER. HANK BROUGHT THAT UP.
AND, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING AND IN SOME OF THE OPEN SPACE AREAS. AND THEN THESE ARE JUST KIND OF
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AN ENLARGED VIEW OF THE OPEN SPACE AREAS. AND I THINK, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY BY THE TIME WE COME BACK TO YOU WITH OUR PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL BE ABLE TO PUT MORE DETAIL TO THESE SO THAT YOU CAN SEE ULTIMATELY HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE USED, WHAT KIND OF AMENITIES MIGHT BE INCORPORATED IN THEM, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO MAILBOXES, SIGNAGE, MAILBOXES, KIND OF A TYPICAL FUNCTION OF ALL COMMUNITIES NOW. SO WE'RE AGAIN COMMITTING TO USE DECORATIVE MAILBOXES. WE ALWAYS LIKE TO USE MAILBOXES WITH SLOPED CAP BECAUSE IT KEEPS PEOPLE FROM PUTTING THEIR COFFEE CUP ON TOP AND JUST KIND OF LEAVING IT UP THERE AND HAVING TRASH ACCUMULATE AT THE, YOU KNOW, AT THE MAIL AREAS SIGN IS A PRETTY STANDARD YARD ARM TYPE SIGNAGE OUT ALONG THE MAIN ENTRY DRIVE THERE. AND THEN WE INCORPORATED SOME IMAGERY JUST TO SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT KIND OF THINGS WE ALLOWED FOR IN THE TEXT THAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE OPEN SPACE. BUT AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT SOME MORE DETAIL ON THIS FOR YOU BY THE TIME WE COME BACK FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARING. NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO KIND OF UTILITIES, WHICH IS KIND OF BORING BECAUSE I'M NOT A CIVIL ENGINEER, ONLY TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE ALL OF THE UTILITIES WORK. UTILITIES ARE AVAILABLE, THE STORMWATER FUNCTIONS WORK. WE'VE STUDIED THAT THERE IS AN APPROVED TRAFFIC STUDY THAT THE CITY HAS LOOKED AT. THERE'S ALSO AN APPROVED SAFETY STUDY ON WEAVER ROAD THAT THE THAT THE VILLAGE ENGINEER HAS LOOKED AT AND APPROVED. SO WITH THAT I WILL HAVE A TENDENCY TO RAMBLE. SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO ZACH WITH THE BUILDER. LET HIM KIND OF WALK THROUGH THE ARCHITECTURE, AND THEN WE'LL JUST OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE. THANKS, GARY. GO AHEAD. SO IF YOU JUST YOU JUST WANT TO SCROLL UP YOU CAN GET TO THE INDIVIDUAL PAGES OKAY. GOOD.LET'S SEE IF WE'VE GOT ENOUGH ROOM HERE. JUST GIVE ME ONE SECOND. HELLO. COUNCIL MEMBERS.
PRESIDENT, MY NAME IS ZACH WILCOX. I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF LAND ACQUISITION FOR K HOVNANIAN HOMES IN OHIO. OPERATIONS. WE'RE HERE TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES AS THE POTENTIAL BUILDER FOR THE SITE. WE'RE CURRENTLY IN CONTRACT ON THE SITE. I'VE GOT ABOUT PROBABLY WAY TOO MANY SLIDES, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM. SOME OF THEM ARE JUST FOR REFERENCE. BUT WHAT I WANT TO DO VERY BRIEFLY IS JUST INTRODUCE US, YOU KNOW, AS THE BUILDER, KIND OF OUR HISTORY, OUR SUCCESS, WHAT OUR VISION IS FOR REALLY CENTRAL OHIO, FOR THIS COMMUNITY SPECIFICALLY, AND THEN BOUNCE AROUND TO SOME OF OUR PLANS, WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURE AND JUST HELP YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH IN MARYSVILLE. SO THANKS FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. YOU KNOW, BRIEF INTRO FOR US IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR OVER 60 YEARS. WE OPERATE IN 15 DIFFERENT STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. IN 2024, WE BUILT AND DELIVERED AROUND 606,000 HOMES IN THOSE STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE'RE PUBLICLY TRADED, BUT STILL RAN AND OPERATED BY THE HOVNANIAN FAMILY. SO WE ARE ON WALL STREET, BUT THE GENERATIONS FAMILY STILL STILL RUNS THE COMPANY. WE CURRENTLY OPERATE OUT OF CLEVELAND MARKET IN OHIO. WE DO ABOUT 400 HOMES A YEAR IN CLEVELAND. WE JUST ENTERED THE TOLEDO MARKET, AND WE JUST OPENED OUR FIRST COMMUNITY IN DELAWARE COUNTY, ADDISON FARMS. WE'RE BUILDING A FOUR SEASONS PRODUCT THERE THAT'S TARGETED, THAT IS AGE TARGETED, HIGHLY AMENITIZED, ETC. THAT WE'RE DOING IN DELAWARE AND HAPPY TO FACILITATE ANY INTRODUCTIONS OVER THERE. IF ANY MEMBERS OR STAFF WANT TO COME SEE THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THERE, WE HOPE TO EXPAND OUR OUR OPERATIONS INTO MARYSVILLE. I'VE BEEN IN OHIO FOR ABOUT NINE YEARS. I WAS PREVIOUSLY WITH ANOTHER BUILDER. WE HAD A TON OF SUCCESS IN MARYSVILLE. MARYSVILLE HAS BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH. I AM A HUGE ADVOCATE WITHIN OUR DIVISION HERE IN OHIO THAT WE CONTINUE TO PURSUE OPPORTUNITIES IN OHIO, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON TO A LITTLE BIT OF OUR SPECIFICS. YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WITH WE ARE A PRODUCTION BUILDER, BUT ONE THING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WITH US IN OUR NATIONAL STRATEGY THAT RECENTLY CHANGED IS LOOKS MATTER. YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO TO ANY OF OUR COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHERE WE'RE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, OUR MOVE UP BUYER AND YOU COMPARE US TO, YOU KNOW, OTHER NATIONAL BUILDERS, SIMILAR SQUARE FOOTAGE, WE'RE GOING TO END UP BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE IN MOST OF THOSE CASES. AND A LOT OF THAT IS DUE TO WHAT WE INCLUDE ON THE INTERIOR AND ALSO WHAT WE INCLUDE ON THE EXTERIOR. WE'RE OKAY WITH WITH BEING MAYBE A LITTLE BIT SLOWER PACE THAN SOME OF OUR COMPETITORS KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, PRICE DEMANDS PACE, BUT WE'RE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT WE LOOK AND WHAT WE OFFER IN THOSE COMMUNITIES. WE STILL NEED TO, YOU KNOW, CONTROL OUR COSTS WITHIN A CERTAIN DEGREE THAT WE CAN BE AFFORDABLE TO THE MARKET AND TO THE TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC.
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YOU KNOW, THE INTERIORS THEMSELVES, WE HAVE THEM DESIGNED BY OUR IN-HOUSE DESIGN TEAM. THE CUSTOMER CAN COME IN, YOU KNOW, SELECT THEIR INTERIOR. IT'S A VERY EASY PROCESS, AND THEY CAN PRICE OUT A HOUSE IN 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR ON SITE. SO IT'S NOT A LONG, DRAWN OUT PROCESS. AND YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR INTERIORS THERE AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS. AND I THINK GARY REFERENCED SOME OF IT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS COMMUNITY THAT THAT WE'RE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE IN TO HELP, SPECIFICALLY THE EXTERIOR, YOU KNOW, OF THE HOMES BE PLEASING TO THE EYE. A COUPLE OF THINGS ARE ALL THE HOUSES WILL HAVE A USABLE FRONT PORCH. WE BELIEVE PEOPLE USE THEIR BACK PORCH. WE ALSO BELIEVE PEOPLE LIKE TO USE THEIR FRONT PORCH. GARAGE DOORS BEEN UPGRADED. DECORATIVE DECORATIVE DOORS WITH HARDWARE WINDOWS. YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE ELEVATIONS ON OUR GARAGE DOORS.DON'T HAVE THOSE. AGAIN, GOING BACK TO HOW WE'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE UNIQUE THAN OTHER PRODUCTION BUILDERS IS THAT WE HAVE A ARCHITECT THAT WORKS IN OHIO, SO WE HAVE TO DESIGN THESE PLANS AS WE GO TO MEET MUNICIPALITY REQUIREMENTS, DEVELOPER REQUIREMENTS, ETC. SO IF YOU SEE SOME ELEVATIONS ON HERE AS WE GO THROUGH AND YOU GO, WAIT A MINUTE, IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. AND OBVIOUSLY WE'LL PROVIDE THAT TO YOU AS AS WE GET CLOSER, WE'LL LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SILOED GARAGES, ESPECIALLY ON CORNER LOTS, YOU KNOW, SILOED GARAGES. THEY THEY TEND TO PRESENT A LITTLE BIT BETTER, YOU KNOW, FACADE OF THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. IT CAN BE TRICKY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH ONE, YOU KNOW, THE COST FOR THE EXTRA CONCRETE, THE EXTRA EXTERIOR. YOU ALSO HAVE TO HAVE THE ROOM FOR THE TURN RADIUS TO GET INTO THE GARAGE. BUT WHERE WE CAN DO THOSE, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THOSE AS OPTIONS. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE ARCHITECTURAL DIVERSITY BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR PLANS, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE INTERIOR INTERNAL REQUIREMENTS. SO SITE PLAN, YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN WE HAVE INTERNAL REQUIREMENTS. YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE WENT INTO A MUNICIPALITY THAT REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY ZONING, WHICH WE RARELY DO, BUT LET'S SAY THAT WE DID INTERNALLY, WE TAKE PRIDE IN OUR PRODUCTS. SO WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY TO REALLY REDUCE DUPLICATION OF ELEVATIONS, TRY TO SET THEM APART. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENT COLORS ON HERE, A LOT OF DIFFERENT STONE OPTIONS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE SHINGLE COLORS BOARD AND BATTEN, YOU KNOW, EXTERIOR STONE, NATURAL MATERIALS THAT WE WANT TO WE WANT TO PUT IN THE HOUSE. AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF OPTIONS THAT THAT WE HAVE THAT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT OVERWHELMING. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO FOR THIS COMMUNITY IS REALLY INCORPORATE, YOU KNOW, MORE OF A NATURAL EARTH TONE, LOOK AND STAY AWAY FROM THE BRIGHT COLORS AND MAKE IT FEEL AND FIT IN WITH MARYSVILLE AND THE DIRECTION THAT IT'S HEADED. WITH ALL THESE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE, WE DO HAVE INTERNAL REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW NECESSARILY A CUSTOMER TO COME IN AND JUST PICK ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT AND STICK IT TOGETHER. SO WITH THOSE SIMILAR TO OUR INTERIOR PACKAGES, WE HAVE EXTERIOR PACKAGES THE CUSTOMER GO THROUGH AND MIX AND MATCH, BUT WE HAVE A PROFESSIONAL DESIGNER THAT HELPS THEM DO THAT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. AND AGAIN INTERNAL REQUIREMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, THROW WHATEVER WE WANT ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING TWO. WE PLAN TO DO TWO PRODUCTS AT AT THE COMMUNITY. SO A 40 FOOT PRODUCT AND A 50 FOOT PRODUCT. I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE OUR 40 FOOT PRODUCT FIRST. THE FIRST PLAN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS THE TUSCAN. IT'S A 39 BY 69 FOOT DEEP HOUSE, 1953 THREE BEDROOM WITH AN INCLUDED DECK. AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR OTHER BUILDERS ARE GOING TO CHARGE 10 TO $15,000 FOR MAYBE MORE. WE'RE INCLUDING THIS HOME. THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMES IN THE COMMUNITY ARE GOING TO BE TWO STORY. WE DO BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT TO OFFER A FIRST FLOOR LIVING FOR, YOU KNOW, FOLKS THAT WANT TO DOWNSIZE. MAYBE THEY LIVE IN A LARGER LOT ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. MAYBE THEY LIVE ON A LARGER HOUSE ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO TARGET THAT. YOU KNOW, THE ELEVATIONS HERE THEMSELVES, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AS FAR AS THE ESTHETICS. YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR CRAFTSMAN STYLE. YOU KNOW, SHAKE AGAIN. YOU KNOW THE GARAGE DOORS ARE GOING TO HAVE DECORATIVE HARDWARE ON THEM. SOME WILL HAVE WINDOWS. AND AGAIN SOME OF OUR PLANS ARE FRONT PORCHES ARE DEEP ENOUGH TO WHERE THE FRONT PORCH WILL ACTUALLY EXTEND FOUR FEET, NOT JUST TWO FEET. AND OBVIOUSLY THAT BREAKS UP. THE DIVERSITY ON THE EXTERIOR MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE PLEASING. YOU KNOW, STUDIES SHOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE SHOPPING FOR A HOUSE, A CUSTOMER IS SHOPPING FOR A HOUSE. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THEY LOOK FOR. AND THIS GOES TO WHAT MUNICIPALITIES ASK US ALL THE TIME, IS THEY ACTUALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE THE KITCHEN. THEY ACTUALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE THE INTERIOR BEDROOM OR THE BACKYARD. THE FIRST THING A CUSTOMER WANTS TO SEE IS THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. IT'S YOUR WELCOME IMAGE. IT'S YOUR FRONT DOOR. SO WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT MORE ATTRACTIVE, YOU KNOW, TO OUR CUSTOMERS AND TO THE MUNICIPALITIES WE'RE WORKING IN. A LITTLE BIT MORE MODERN OF APPROACH. THIS IS A FARMHOUSE, NICE LOOKING ELEVATION, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR FLOOR PLAN. MOVING ON TO WE'RE STILL IN OUR 40 FOOT PRODUCTS AND WE'LL BUILD THESE PRODUCTS ON THE SMALLER LOTS. SO
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WE'LL DESIGNATE OUR 50 FOOT PRODUCTS FOR THE LARGER LOTS. OBVIOUSLY HOW THE HOUSE SITS ON THE LOT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ESTHETICALLY PLEASING AS WELL, THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A SMALL HOUSE ON A REALLY LARGE LOT. BUT THIS IS THE FAYETTEVILLE, THIS IS OUR YOU KNOW, THIS IS CALLED OUR BREAD AND BUTTER FAMILY PLAN, YOU KNOW, 38 BY 37 FOOT DEEP, THREE BEDROOM FLEX LOFT. IT'S ONE OF OUR MORE AFFORDABLE PLANS. IT WILL BE OUR ENTRY LEVEL PLAN INTO THE COMMUNITY. I DO HAVE FLOOR FLOOR PLAN SPECIFICATIONS. AGAIN, THIS IS ONE THAT WILL OFFER OVER TO THE RIGHT A SIDE LOAD OPTION. IF THE CUSTOMER CHOOSES TO DO SO, AND THEN A COUPLE ELEVATIONS HERE. MORE OF A TRADITIONAL COLONIAL STYLE. AGAIN, ANOTHER COLONIAL STYLE HERE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT COLORS. YOU CAN SEE HOW THE ROOF LINE, YOU KNOW, BUMPS OUT AND COMES IN, JUST BREAKS THE HOUSE UP A LITTLE BIT. AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE STONE SIMILAR TO THIS AS OPTIONS. YOU KNOW, CUSTOMERS WILL BE ABLE TO RUN THIS STONE UP IN SOME CASES EVEN MORE THAN THIS. THIS IS NOT ACTUALLY NOT A STONE COLOR THAT WE'RE OFFERING, BUT JUST GIVES YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ACHIEVE. NEXT HOUSE IS WATER LILY, 2500FTâ– !S, CLOSE TO 2600F, 38 FOOT WIDE. YOU KNOW, THE WATER LILIES WOULD CALL IT A STEP UP FROM, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSE THAT WE WERE JUST ON, THREE BEDROOM FLEX LOFT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO OFFER THE SIDE LOAD GARAGE OVER THERE TO THE RIGHT HELPS WITH ESTHETICS ON THE, ON THE EXTERIOR AND THEN A COUPLE ELEVATIONS FOR THE FOR THE WATER LILY HERE A LITTLE BIT MORE MODERN WITH THE FARMHOUSE THE BOARD AND BATTEN. YOU KNOW YOU GOT A NICE LARGE FRONT PORCH THAT'S GOING TO OFFER SPACE TO, TO HANG OUT ON YOUR FRONT PORCH, SEE YOUR NEIGHBORS AND THEN SOME FLOOR PLAN SPECIFICATIONS HERE. I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE THIS TO ANY OF YOU TWO. AFTERWARDS. IT'LL GO INTO MORE SPECS, SPECS ON THE FLOOR PLAN ITSELF AND WHAT IT HAS TO OFFER. THIS IS THE MACON. AGAIN, ANOTHER FARMHOUSE. THIS IS STILL OUR 40 FOOT PRODUCT TWO STORY. THIS IS A NICE LOOKING PLAN. PROBABLY ONE OF MY MORE FAVORITES. YOU CAN SEE THE GARAGE DOOR MAKES A HUGE IMPACT ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE HOUSE. YOU KNOW. SEE, THEY MIX IT UP THERE WITH THE HARDIPLANK ON THE FRONT WITH THE STONE. YOU'VE GOT A METAL ACCENT ROOF HERE.THAT'LL BE AN OPTION. YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT STYLE SHINGLES THAT WE CAN DO. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S YOU KNOW, I KNOW FISHER HOMES. THEY DO SOME REALLY NICE ELEVATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE PRETTY COMPETITIVE TO WHAT THEY'RE OFFERING AND THEIR ELEVATIONS AS THEY WRAP UP. AND THEN JUST SOME MORE FLOOR PLAN SPECIFICATIONS. SO THIS IS GOING INTO OUR 50 FOOT PRODUCT. SO A LITTLE BIT BIGGER YOU KNOW INTRODUCING FOR THAT MOVE UP BUYER. YOU KNOW OUR 40 FOOT PRODUCT WILL SAY IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 500 TO 550,000 WILL BE OUR ENTRY LEVEL OR ASP PRICE TO THAT. THE 50 FOOT PRODUCT WILL DRIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A PREMIUM THAT THIS IS THE, AGAIN, 2200 SQUARE FOOT, 49 FOOT WIDE, 62 FOOT DEEP. IT'S A FOUR BEDROOM WITH A THREE CAR GARAGE INCLUDED. YOU KNOW, THREE CAR GARAGE OPTION AS AN OPTION TO MOST BUILDERS, YOU'RE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 15 TO $25,000 IN AND MARKET PRICE. WE'RE ACTUALLY INCLUDING IT ON THIS PLAN. YOU CAN SEE THE DETAIL. YOU KNOW, THE FRONT FACADE WITH THE STONE, THE GARAGE DOORS. YOU GOT THE WINDOWS IN THE GARAGE DOORS. IT'S REALLY NICE LOOKING PLAN. AND THIS WILL BE OUR LARGE RANCH PLAN THAT, THAT. AND SO WE'LL HAVE THE TUSCAN WILL KIND OF BE OUR ENTRY LEVEL ON OUR 40 FOOT. AND THEN THE AEGEAN WILL BE THE ENTRY, THE RANCH HOUSE ON, ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO THE LIMERICK'S NEXT A LITTLE BIT LARGER OF A PLAN GETTING UP THERE IN SQUARE FOOTAGE, 3000FTâ– !S. IT'S A FOUR BEDROOM, HAS A THREE CAR TANDEM INCLUDED, FLEX LOFT AND A DINING ROOM. YOU KNOW, THREE CAR TEAM INCLUDED. AGAIN, THAT'S AN OPTION. THAT'S TYPICALLY AN OPTION WE'RE INCLUDED ON. THIS PLAN ALLOWS FAMILIES TO, YOU KNOW, PUT THEIR EITHER EXTRA VEHICLE OR ALSO MAJORITY OF TIMES IT'S USED FOR, YOU KNOW, BIKES AND, YOU KNOW, LAWN EQUIPMENT, ETC. THAT WILL BE INCLUDED ON THE PLAN. SO WE'RE REALLY TARGETING WITH THIS PRODUCT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AROUND 600,000. YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH OUR PROFORMA. BUT THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE ON THESE WILL GO UP A LITTLE BIT. AND THERE'S ONE OF THE ELEVATIONS THERE. YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF NICE STONE BREAKS IT UP AT THE TOP. YOU KNOW THE WATER TABLE AT THE BOTTOM ACROSS THE GARAGE. YOU KNOW THE WINDOWS. AGAIN NOT TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME TALKING ABOUT GARAGE DOORS, BUT IT DOES MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE CRAFTSMAN VERSION. NICE LOOKING PLAN. THERE'S YOUR FARMHOUSE. SO THOSE ARE THE PLANS KIND OF OUR VISION
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FOR THE COMMUNITY. AGAIN, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN MARYSVILLE. WE KNOW THAT OBVIOUSLY EVEN TONIGHT THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, ON THE JOB SIDE. AND SO WE HOPE THAT WE CAN FIGURE THIS PRODUCT OUT. BUT I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR GARY. HAPPY TO WALK THROUGH AND ANSWER WHAT I CAN. COUNCIL. YEAH OKAY. YEAH OKAY. SO WOULD YOU MIND GOING BACK TO THE OVERVIEW OF THE DIFFERENT LANDSCAPE OR. SORRY THE. THE SITE PLANNING THE LOT SIZES. YEAH SURE. IS THAT YOUR CAP. YES. SORRY GARY. THERE YOU GO. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? YEP. OKAY. SO YOU MENTIONED DIFFERENT PLACES. YOU MENTIONED ENTRY LEVEL 500 TO 550. APPROXIMATELY OUT OF THE 250. HOW MANY OF THEM WILL BE OF THAT PRICE RANGE? GOOD ANSWER. OKAY. SO WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH OUR OUR PROFORMA AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO SET UP THE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW THE FIVE THE 5 TO 600,000. THAT'S A VERY ROUGH NUMBER AT THIS POINT. BUT I THINK WE HAVE LET'S SEE. YOU KNOW, OUR 55 AND 60 FOOT LOTS. WE'VE GOT A TOTAL OF. YOU KNOW, A LITTLE OVER 100 ARE GOING TO BE ON THE LOWER END SIDE OF THAT 5 TO 550. THE REMAINING WOULD BE NORTH OF THAT, BECAUSE WE'LL ONLY PUT OUR 40 FOOT PRODUCT ON ON THE SMALLER. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE FOOT LOTS WILL FIT THE 50 FOOT RIGHT. YEAH. AND THAT AND THAT'S THE 60 TO GARY'S POINT AS WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH SOME OF OUR PROFORMA AND HOW WE WANT TO STRATEGICALLY PLAN THE COMMUNITY FOR OBVIOUSLY OUR SUCCESS THAT THAT MAY CHANGE A LITTLE BIT. BUT YOU KNOW SOMEWHERE AROUND HALF AND OBVIOUSLY MARKET DEPENDS TOO. I MEAN, BY THE TIME WE OPEN, THE MARKET COULD BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, EITHER LOWER OUR PRICE OR RAISE OUR PRICE DEPENDING ON WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE. SO WHAT WHAT EXACT SERVICES ARE YOU ASKING FOR? THE CITY. YEAH I'M SURE YOU'LL HAVE AN HOA THAT TAKES CARE OF COMMON AREAS, CORRECT? YEAH. SO WHAT? I OBVIOUSLY SAFETY SERVICES, POLICE, FIRE. OR THAT'S THE STANDARD. RIGHT. THE ROADS EVENTUALLY WILL BE DEDICATED ROADS. THE TRAIL WHO TAKES CARE OF THE TRAIL. THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OKAY. THE HOA WILL TAKE CARE OF THE TRAIL. WE WERE KIND OF TOLD UP FRONT INITIALLY WE HAD THAT PARK SPACE KIND OF OUT IN THE FRONT. IT'S A PRETTY LARGE PARK AREA. WE OFFERED THAT TO THE CITY AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE CITY SAID, WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN KIND OF TAKING CARE OF THAT. SO ALL OF THE OPEN SPACE, ALL OF THE TRAILS, ALL OF THE COMMON SPACE, THE SIGNAGE, EVERYTHING IN THERE WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE 250 AND YOU GIVE AN ESTIMATE OF 1.3 STUDENTS PER UNIT, I COME UP TO ABOUT 325 STUDENTS. YEP. HAS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THE SCHOOL? AND WE DID HAVE AN EARLY CONVERSATION WITH THE SCHOOL LAST YEAR. AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE SCHOOL WAS TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, GET THEIR LEVY PASSED, BUT WE ARE GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE TO THEM AGAIN BEFORE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. NOW THAT THEY'VE GOT THE LEVY PASSED, THINGS HAVE CALMED DOWN A LITTLE BIT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION WITH THEM JUST TO SEE WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO YOU BY THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, WITH MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. SO AT THIS TIME, THE ONLY THING BASICALLY THAT THE CITY WILL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR IS THE MAIN THE MAINTENANCE OF THE ROAD AND THE SAFETY SERVICE. AND THAT'S ALL THAT. I WONDER WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING US HERE. YES, SIR. THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FIVE, TEN, 15 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, CORRECT? YEAH. OKAY. THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTIONS. OKAY. I HAVE I HAVE A FEW. APPRECIATE THE MATERIAL TODAY. NEW NEW BUILDER TO INVESTIGATE. THIS IS ALL NEWS TO US. YOU KNOW THIS IS OBVIOUSLY MY WARD. SO I REPRESENT THE SECOND WARD. SO THIS IS DIRECTLY IMPACTFUL TO THE RESIDENTS THAT I SERVE. AND YOU KNOW WE'VE MET I DON'T KNOW APRIL LAST YEAR. E CAME ORIGINALLY[01:30:03]
I THINK THERE WAS LIKE TWO 9300 HOMES. AND IT'S ABOUT 266 270, I THINK WHERE WE WHERE WE STARTED.YEAH. OKAY. I THOUGHT THERE WAS A 298 NUMBER. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. BUT THIS IS KIND OF BEEN A LONG TIME IN THE, IN THE MAKING. RIGHT. BUT I'VE HAD A LOT OF LATE NIGHT CONVERSATIONS WITH RESIDENTS AFTER WORK AND DRIVEWAYS AND SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, AND I APOLOGIZE. I HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AND I DON'T HAVE ALL MY NOTES WITH ME. THAT'S FINE. SO BUT I KNOW THAT. BACK LAST SUMMER, I MET WITH MR. DOVER, WHO LIVES RIGHT THERE AT THE WHERE THAT POND IS, RIGHT BEHIND HOUSE NUMBER, RIGHT IN FRONT OF HOUSE NUMBER ONE.
PRETTY CONCERNED WITH RIGHT HERE. YEAH, MAYBE RIGHT THERE. SORRY. WHERE? THE POND IS. RIGHT IN FRONT OF. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. RIGHT THERE. CONCERNED WITH THE SIX HOMES THAT WERE GOING TO BE DIRECTLY IN HIS BACKYARD. AND MY REQUEST WAS, HEY, CAN WE GET RID OF THEM? SO THAT'S ONE THING I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER AGAIN. AND THE REALITY IS, IS A THE MORE IMPORTANT CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE ARE THE SAFETY CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP. I BELIEVE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THERE WAS A RESIDENT, MR. MATHERS, WHO LIVES RIGHT THERE ON LORENZO DRIVE. HE HAD BROUGHT SOME CONCERNS TO, TO MY ATTENTION. I THINK THAT THEY WERE ADDRESSED. I THINK HE ACTUALLY ADDRESSED THEM IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT HAD HAD SENT MYSELF AND MAYBE PRESIDENT BERGER AN EMAIL. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M ADDRESSING THEM PUBLICLY AT THIS FIRST READING. SO ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS LIKE THE ENTRY ENTRY POINT ON THE NORTHERN PART WHERE YOU HAVE THAT. THE CURVE WITH THE TREES KIND OF CREATES A BLIND QUARTER CORNER. MR. MATHERS GAVE SOME ODOT AND AASHTO DATA FOR ME TO REFERENCE. THANK YOU. BUT BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE 430FT FROM THE BLIND CURVE TO THE ENTRANCE. AND I THINK ODOT REQUIRES SOMEWHERE BASED ON A 45 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE 500 FOOT. SO THERE'S CONCERNS WITH CRASH SAFETY THERE IN THE PROPOSAL. SO HE DIDN'T JUST COME WITH CONCERNS. HE CAME WITH SOLUTIONS. SO THE PROPOSAL WAS BASICALLY TO FLIP THE ENTRANCE AND THE GREEN SPACE AND BASICALLY THOSE HOMES DOWN AT THE BOTTOM WOULD MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WRAP AROUND THE, I GUESS THE NORTHEAST PORTION. HAS THAT BEEN CONSIDERED? IT HAS IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. IT HAS BEEN CONSIDERED A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT THAT. SO ONCE WE GOT THAT REQUEST, WE ACTUALLY HAD OUR WE REACHED OUT TO THE CITY ENGINEER. WE ACTUALLY HAD OUR ENGINEER GO OUT AND DO A SAFETY STUDY OF THAT CORRIDOR. SO SIGHT LINE DISTANCES, EVERYTHING THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY ENGINEER AND APPROVED AND SHOWED THAT WE HAVE NO SAFETY ISSUE. AND SO THAT WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN A LOOK AT THAT. SO I CAN SAY THAT THAT'S BEEN STUDIED. WE HAVE NO SAFETY ISSUE. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT LOOKING AT MOVING THE ENTRANCE. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. ULTIMATELY, WE ENDED UP LEAVING IT WHERE IT IS BECAUSE OF SOME ISSUES THAT WE'D HAVE MOVING IT TO THE SOUTH AND RIGHT OF WAY AND OTHER THINGS, BECAUSE THAT PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY IS NOT IN MARYSVILLE, DOESN'T CONTROL ALL THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND SO WHERE WE HAVE IT SHOWN IS THE MOST LOGICAL PLACE FOR IT BASED ON WHAT WE'RE HEARING AND WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. OKAY. SO I'M JUST I'M JUST CAN WE FLIP IT? NO, IT WOULD BE REALLY HARD FOR YOU TO PASS THIS IF IT'S NOT FLIPPED. I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW. OKAY. SO IF YOU STICK WITH THE FOUNDATION, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FLIP IT. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET YOUR DEVELOPMENT TO PASS. OKAY.
WELL, THAT'S ABOUT AS BLUNT AS YOU CAN PUT IT. I JUST I LIKE TO BE I LIKE WELL, IT MIGHT BE ONE BUT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S TWO. IT'S LOUD. IT'S LOUD ENOUGH. SO I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT IT MIGHT THAT MIGHT BE A HARD SELL. ALL MY JOB IS TO REPRESENT THOSE THAT I SERVE. AND THE CONCERNS ARE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION. SURE. UNDERSTOOD. BROUGHT TO PLANNING COMMISSION'S ATTENTION.
I THINK IN DUE TIME. RIGHT. WITH WITH ENOUGH TIME. AND I'M ASKING FOR CONSIDERATION THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. OKAY. AND IF YOU'RE JUST BEING BLUNT AND SAYING NO, WELL, I TRIED, RIGHT.
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LIKE I'M TRYING TO DO. AND I'M TO BE CLEAR, I'M NOT JUST SAYING NO. I'M SAYING THE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES FOR US MAY MEAN THAT WE CAN'T HAVE IT THERE. AND MAYBE I'M A LOGICAL PERSON, TOO RATIONAL. I LIKE TO THINK, YEAH, IF YOU CAN SHOW US LIKE THE WHY, I THINK WE'LL TRY AND GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT AS OPPOSED TO JUST NO, LET'S SHOW SHOW ME THE HURDLES THAT YOU HAVE TO OVERCOME TO MEET THOSE. AND LET'S FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN FIND SOME MIDDLE GROUND. YEAH, RIGHT.NO, I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST. I'M NOT I'M NOT SITTING HERE TELLING YOU, FLIP IT, BUT YOU'RE SITTING HERE TELLING ME. NO, BUT LET'S LET'S JUST WORK TOGETHER. WE'VE GOT SOME TIME.
YES. ON THIS. WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE. SO IF WE CAN PLEASE LOOK AT IT, OUTLINE KIND OF THE HURDLES. AND THEN IF I'VE GOT TO GO BACK TO MY CONSTITUENTS AND, YOU KNOW, RELAY THE MESSAGE, THEN, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY THAT'S THAT'S WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN. BUT MY FORMAL REQUEST RIGHT NOW IS TO PROVIDE THE ANALYSIS AS TO WHY YOU CAN'T. BECAUSE WE REALLY WOULD PREFER THAT TO BE FLIPPED. YEAH. ON THE PRACTICAL SIDE OF THAT, WE WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT. AND AGAIN, I'M NOT I'M NOT TELLING YOU. NO I'M TELLING YOU WHAT WE'VE LEARNED SO FAR. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO DO. SO WE'LL WE'LL LOOK INTO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. WE'LL CERTAINLY WORK WITH THE CITY ENGINEER, TRY AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND SEE WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE. I THINK IF IT WERE EASY, WE WOULD PROBABLY JUST PREFER TO DO IT BECAUSE YOU ALL WANT IT. SO NOT TRYING TO BE STUBBORN BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION, WE'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET COUNCIL'S APPROVAL ON THIS, SO WE DEFINITELY HEAR THE CONCERNS, AND WE'LL CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT IT FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT. JUST LET ME ASK IF WE MAKE A MAJOR CHANGE LIKE THAT, DO WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO GET THEM TO REVIEW IT, OR HOW DO WE HOW DOES THAT GET DEALT WITH AT THE. NO, I DON'T I DON'T BELIEVE SO. YEAH. AS AN AMENDMENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION I REQUIRE SIX VOTES. SO SIX OUT OF SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THE CHANGE AMENDMENT.
YES. OKAY. IF IT DOES, THEN GET AMENDED THEN IT WOULD JUST BE UP FOR THE PASSAGE OF. YEAH OKAY.
SO ANY YEAH. SO ANY AMENDMENT YOU NEED YOU NEED SIX. BUT TO GET IT TO PASS YOU NEED FOUR OKAY. THAT THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT IF BUT IF WE DO WANT TO CHANGE IT BASED ON WHAT COUNCIL IS ASKING US TO DO, IT'S GOING TO TAKE SIX MEMBERS TO AGREE TO MAKE THE CHANGE. THEN FOR TO APPROVE IT. OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. SO I GUESS FOR ME SPECIFICALLY LIKE THE ASKS, WERE THOSE FIRST SIX HOUSES CAN WE GET. AND THEN ULTIMATELY I THINK YOU GET RID OF THEM. IF YOU FLIP THE I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY RIGHT. THE REALITY IS IF YOU FLIP THAT YOU GET RID OF THOSE HOMES, YOU PUT THE ENTRANCE IN A BETTER POSITION FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT AND I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHERE 55 MILES AN HOUR STARTS ON.
WEAVER. YEAH, JUST JUST BELOW THAT ENTRANCE. OKAY, SO I JUST GOT CARS COMING. 5545. I JUST THE MORE LINE OF SIGHT FOR ME, THE BETTER. I DON'T SEE, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT FOR ME, IT DOESN'T DOESN'T I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T FLIP THAT. BUT IF YOU WANT TO JUST GIVE ME THE ANALYSIS BEHIND IT, WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. WE'LL WE'LL EXPLORE THE OPPORTUNITY AND WE'LL AND WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WITH MORE INFORMATION OR, OR BECAUSE I KNOW THAT AS WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS INITIATIVE, A COUPLE OTHER ITERATIONS. RIGHT? YEAH. THE ONLY OTHER MAJOR CONCERN THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS HAD BEEN DISCUSSED WAS LIKE LOT SIZE AND AT LEAST MAKING SURE THAT A THE HOMES ARE OF COMPARABLE VALUE AND THE LOTS WERE OF COMPARABLE SIZE, ESPECIALLY ON THE, ON THE WEAVER RIDGE PORTION, WHICH HIGHLIGHTED IN RED. WE'RE DEFINITELY DOING YOU'VE YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT.
YEAH. NOW I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A LITTLE LESS DENSITY. BUT I ALSO REFLECT ON, YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY, YOU KNOW, TWO 6298 WHATEVER IT WAS TO 250 MAYBE WE CAN FIGURE SOMETHING OUT ALONG THE WAY TO GET TO LIKE A 225 RANGE, BUT ULTIMATELY YOU KIND OF GOT TO, YOU KNOW, NEGOTIATE.
SO AT LEAST THE WIN IS, HEY, WE GOT THE SAME LOT SIZES OR COMPARABLE LOT SIZES TO LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH. THAT'S GREAT MY. MY DIRECT ASK IS CAN WE FLIP THE GREEN SPACE
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IN THE ENTRANCE? YEAH. OKAY. AND I WILL SAY WE ARE VERY COMPARABLE IN DENSITY TO ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT NORTH OF US. WE'RE ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME. AND WE HAVE CONSIDERABLY MORE OPEN SPACE THAN ANY OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED TO THE NORTH OF US. SO WE I DO FEEL LIKE THIS PLAN IS VERY COMPATIBLE WITH KIND OF THE NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH, FOR SURE. I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT AS WELL. BUT THIS COUNCIL HAS TAKEN A STRONGER APPROACH OF HOW NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE DESIGNED, AND WHICH IS WHY PUDS AND ALSO UPDATING OUR ZONING AND OUR STANDARDS IS SO IMPORTANT TO THIS COUNCIL, BECAUSE WE WANT TO BUILD A BETTER PRODUCT THAN WHAT WE HAVE BUILT. SO YOU'RE JUST ELEVATING, WHICH IS WHY YOU'RE HERE. SO AND I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. MR. PRESIDENT, A COUPLE QUESTIONS. SO I CAN'T EXACTLY SEE MAYBE IT'S MY GLASSES PRESCRIPTION. BUT ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE YOU HAVE A COUPLE ROADS. THAT ONE THAT GOES INTO WHAT APPEARS TO BE TREES. WHAT IS THAT A WHAT IS BEHIND THOSE HOMES THERE? IS THERE A PASSAGEWAY? IS THAT EMPTY SPACE.SO IT'S A ROAD STUB THAT GOES OVER TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. SO EARLIER YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS WOULD BE THE LAST DEVELOPABLE PARCEL TO THE SOUTH. TO THE SOUTH. YEAH. NO, I, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE PIECE TO THE EAST OF US. IT'S ACTUALLY A SMALLER PIECE. I CAN KIND OF SHOW YOU THAT THIS IS, THIS IS THAT PIECE RIGHT HERE. OKAY. IT WASN'T THAT STUB OUT WAS NOT ON THE PREVIOUS VERSION, BUT WAS THAT IN ADDITION IT WAS NOT THE CITY ENGINEER AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ASKED US TO PUT THAT STUB IN. THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WE HAD TO ACQUIESCE TO GET THE PLAN APPROVED. OKAY. SO THE IDEA BEING THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A IF THIS DEVELOPED, THERE COULD BE A CONNECTION MADE JUST SO THAT YOU HAVE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN COMMUNITIES. THERE WAS I WAS ON PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE SKY BROOK DEVELOPMENT, AND I RECALL THERE WERE THERE'S A COUPLE STREETS WHERE YOU KIND OF IT JUST TEES OFF AND THEN IT JUST KIND OF DEAD ENDS AND THERE'S CUL DE SACS ON EACH END.
AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT, HEY, CAN WE CAN WE POUR OUT VEHICULAR TRAFFIC ONTO. BUT IT WAS A TOWNSHIP ROAD AND WE COULDN'T DO THAT, BUT IT KIND OF LOCKED TO AN EXTENT. THERE'S STILL SOME OPPORTUNITY PERHAPS, BUT IT KIND OF LOCKED THAT AREA FROM BEING ABLE TO BE. CONNECTED. IF SOMETHING WERE TO DEVELOP. WE ACTUALLY HAVE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A STUB TO THE SOUTH, EVEN THOUGH THE SEWER ISN'T DESIGNED TO HANDLE THAT. AT SOME POINT, IF THE CITY DECIDES TO CHANGE THEIR SEWER POLICY OR ADD SEWER DOWN THERE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CONNECTIVITY. IF IT IF IT NEVER HAPPENS, IT NEVER HAPPENS. IT'S JUST A SHORT STUB. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST GET TO LIVE AT THE END OF THAT STUB. IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME THING HERE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A STUB JUST OVER TO THE PROPERTY LINE. AND IF THAT PROPERTY EVER DEVELOPS, THEN THE CITY ENGINEER OR CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OR COUNCIL HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THAT PROPERTY OWNER TO CONNECT UP. SO WE HAVE SOME CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN DEVELOPMENTS. THE TREES THAT ARE ON THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF THIS, WHICH WHERE'S THE LINE TO WHICH THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD GO UNTIL IT'S PRETTY MUCH THAT RED LINE RIGHT THERE. SO THE TREES ARE ACTUALLY OFF NOT PART OF THE PROPERTY. CORRECT. OKAY. OUR PROPERTY IS ALMOST ENTIRELY 100% FARMLAND.
YOU SAID THAT EARLIER. SO THE I THINK COUNCILMAN BORDNER KEPT MENTIONING 298. I THINK THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THIS HAS COME THROUGH FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL OVER EVEN YEARS. BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL, I THINK I WAS ON PLANNING COMMISSION FOR TIME TWO, BUT I DO RECALL THE SECOND TIME AROUND THERE WAS A 298 NUMBER, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE AMERICAN HOMES FOR RENT APPLICATION. I CAN'T REMEMBER ACTUALLY, BUT I DO REMEMBER THE SECOND TIME AROUND WAS A HIGHER QUANTITY. AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE WHEN WE FIRST CAME IN INITIALLY, I THINK THAT APPLICATION WAS KIND OF FRESH IN EVERYBODY'S MIND. AND THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF GOT THE FEEDBACK, WELL, LET'S NOT HAVE IT AT 298. WE THINK WE COULD PROBABLY GET CLOSE TO 250. AND, YOU KNOW, FEEL BETTER ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT WOULD BE MORE COMPATIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY OF THE NORTH. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE GOT THAT DIRECTION FROM. SO WE YOU KNOW, WE'RE ACTUALLY THE TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY APPLIES TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. ALTHOUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS FEWER LOTS, WE'RE APPLYING THE SAME STANDARDS THAT THEY DID IN THEIR IN THEIR TRAFFIC STUDY. I'LL SAY A FEW OTHER POINTS IS ON SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED FOR, AND I'LL JUST BE
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CONSISTENT WITH THOSE, IS AS YOU ENTER A NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS ON, I THINK EVEN WITH THE VISION PLAN, IS MORE OF A KIND OF YOU DRIVE INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU DON'T JUST ABRUPTLY, ABRUPTLY ENTER INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD. SO KIND OF SOME POINTS ABOUT THE HOMES RIGHT THERE ON THE ENTRANCEWAY, THERE'S THE POND AND THEN IMMEDIATE PRESENCE OF HOMES. I THERE'S SOME SPACE, BUT LIKE KIND OF SOME IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN DRAWN OR WE'VE SEEN IS KIND OF THIS ENTRANCEWAY TO A NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT JUST IMMEDIATELY APPROACHING HOMES.SO IF KIND OF CONSIDERATION OF JUST THE HOMES UP THERE. OR THOSE LOTS POTENTIALLY MAKING THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A GREEN SPACE, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPEALING TO THE ENTRANCE OF IT.
BUT I DO I DO LIKE SOME OF THE AREAS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION I CAN SEE ON THE SOUTHEAST, WELL, NEAR THE BIGGER POND OF WATER, THAT KIND OF WALKING PATH TO ME. GLAD TO HAVE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS GIVE YOU INPUT AND YOU TO CONSIDER THAT. I'M EXPECTING THAT THE SECOND TIME THIS COMES BEFORE US. WE'LL HAVE A LARGE AUDIENCE. IF IT'S NOT, IF IT'S ANYTHING LIKE IT WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO. SURE. SO I'LL TRY AND HOLD SOME OF MY COMMENTS SO I CAN HEAR MORE SENTIMENT. I HAVE RECEIVED LETTERS FROM RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY IN SUPPORT OF THIS, BUT I WOULD ANTICIPATE SIMILAR TO WHAT'S HAPPENED IN YEARS PAST, THERE'S GOING TO BE JUST A MIX OF VOICES ABOUT THIS.
YEAH, I'M WILLING TO LISTEN. LASTLY, ONE PIECE, JUST ME PERSONALLY. I GREW UP AS A PAINTER. I WAS PAINTED IN HIGH SCHOOL. I DID THIS AS A JOB. I WORKED AT A PAINT STORE. I'M ALWAYS APPRECIATIVE OF HOMES THAT PEOPLE CAN MAINTAIN THEMSELVES AND NOT HAVE TO SPECIAL ORDER THINGS. SO I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF CERTAIN MATERIALS OVER VINYL SIDING, VINYL SIDING. WE DON'T GO THAT WELL, AND THAT'S BECAUSE I LIKE THEM. I THINK PEOPLE CAN MAINTAIN THEIR OWN HOME THAT WAY, BUT IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ELIMINATE VINYL SIDING, RESTRICT IT TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN, THAT WOULD BE A ZONING CHANGE THAT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF. AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? MR. REMES, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? MR. BARBIE? SO THE ONLY. SO I'LL JUST ADD MY BULLET POINTS OF WHAT I, WHAT I WOULD LIKE. SO THE SETBACK DRIVING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT WOULD BE NICER IF IT WAS THE HOMES WERE PUSHED FARTHER BACK BECAUSE YOU ARE IN THE GATEWAY INTO OPENING UP THE COUNTRYSIDE. AND WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE IS I. YOU CAN SAY THAT THE DEVELOPMENTS PREVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN BUILT THAT SAME WAY, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO KEEP BUILDING DEVELOPMENTS THE SAME WAY WE HAVE BECAUSE THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME. SO WE'RE TRYING TO ADD MORE CREATIVITY AND SO MOVING THE SETBACKS, PUSHING THOSE HOUSES FARTHER BACK TO OPEN UP MORE GREEN SPACE AND TREES. IF THERE'S A WAY IN THAT COMMON AREA INSTEAD OF MOWING GRASS, BECAUSE WITH BART'S DEVELOPMENT HE PLANTED, LIKE, LET'S SAY, A THOUSAND OAK TREES TO ADD CANOPY IN INTO THE FOREST, PUT WILDFLOWER NO MOW AREAS IN IN THE COMMON AREA TO ADD TO WILDLIFE REFUGE THOSE THOSE KIND OF THINGS. IF THESE HOUSES HAVE NO VINYL SIDING, THAT WOULD BE A PLUS. MOVING THE EXIT WOULD BE MOVING. THE EXIT ENTRYWAY TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE WOULD ALSO BE A PLUS. AND THEN ALSO, IF THERE'S A WAY YOU CAN REMOVE ALL THE GARAGE DOORS FROM FACING THE STREET, BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO DO THAT NOW, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH YOUR HOMES ARE LOVELY AND THEY ARE NICER COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT, THERE'S A LOT OF GARAGE DOORS THAT FACE THE STREET. THE OTHER THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, GETTING THAT BALLPARK PRICE, GETTING THE BALLPARK HOMES TO GO DOWN TO 225 OR 210 WOULD BE EVEN BETTER. AND THINK ABOUT ALSO ON THE AREAS WHERE THERE ARE THE 55 FOOT LOTS THAT ARE THERE, INSTEAD OF HAVING GARAGES THAT ARE THAT ARE IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSES, CAN YOU PUT THE GARAGE FARTHER BACK WITH THE HOME IN FRONT SO THAT BECAUSE WHAT YOU SEE AROUND MARYSVILLE AND I YOU KNOW, I GET IT. IT'S JUST YOU HAVE A MINIMAL LOT AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE REASON WHY I WAS AGAINST THE 55 FOOT LOT, BECAUSE ALL YOU SEE IS GARAGE DOOR. SO IT WOULD BE NICE IF THE 55 FOOT LOTS DIDN'T HAVE A GARAGE ATTACHED TO THE HOME. IT WAS DETACHED AND PUT FARTHER IN THE BACK, BUT IF YOU CAN'T DO THAT, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THE GARAGE FARTHER IN THE BACK WITH THE HOME IN THE FRONT. AND THEN ALSO YOU SAID THE GARAGE. YOU ALSO SAID THAT PORCHES ARE SIX FOOT. IF THERE'S A WAY YOU CAN MAKE PORCHES EIGHT FOOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FRONT PORCH IS EXTENDED PAST THE GARAGE DOORS SO THAT YOU CAN'T SEE THAT THOSE ARE ALL SOME CRITERIAS. NOW YOU CAN DO WHAT TIM SAID IS YOU CAN ASK FOR COUNCIL TO APPOINT. YOU CAN ASK COUNCIL TO SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED SIX VOTES OR YOU CAN JUST DO IT. AND THEN YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, THEN IT'S EASIER THAT THAT WAY.
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SO THOSE ARE JUST MY RECOMMENDATIONS. SO JUST TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS, DON, BECAUSE I HEARD YOU SAY A NUMBER OF THINGS AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY. WHEN YOU SAY ALL TO NOT HAVE ALL THE GARAGE DOORS FACE THE FRONT, ARE YOU SAYING NONE OF THE GARAGE DOORS CAN FACE THE FRONT? OR ARE YOU SAYING TO TRY TO INCORPORATE SIDE LOADS? WELL, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS IF YOU IF YOU'RE KIND OF HEARING WHAT COUNSEL IS SAYING, IT'S IF YOU LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF HOMES YOU'RE BUILDING, IT WILL GIVE YOU MORE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE BIGGER LOTS THAT HAVE YOU HAVE MORE CREATIVITY ON HOW YOU'RE BUILDING YOUR GARAGES AND HAVING ALL GARAGES FACE THE STREET. NOW, I KNOW NOT EVERY HOUSE IS GOING TO HAVE A SIDE LOAD GARAGE OR A GARAGE THAT PUSHES TOWARDS THE BACK, BUT IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF GARAGES THAT FACE THE STREET. SO WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, A YOU'RE NOT SEEING GARAGE DOORS. B YOU'RE NOT SEEING TWO CARS PARKED, PARKED IN THE DRIVEWAY, AND YOU JUST SEEING THAT CONSTANT BREAKUP OF THE NATURAL BEAUTY OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, STEPPING, RAISING THE BAR A LITTLE BIT MORE TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS A TRULY IMPACTFUL, WELL DESIGNED, WELL PLANNED NEIGHBORHOOD THAT FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL LOOK AT AND SAY, THIS IS A GOOD MODEL. TO BE CLEAR, WE DO HAVE LANGUAGE IN THE TEXT THAT THE GARAGE DOOR HAS TO BE SET BACK FROM THE PORCH SO THEY CAN'T EXTEND UP TO THE PORCH. THEY HAVE TO BE SET BACK FROM THE PORCH. SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS MAYBE A LITTLE MORE. YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S ONLY A FOUR FOOT. I MEAN, IT'S ONLY A SIX FOOT. SO ADDING TWO, TWO, TWO MORE FEET TO PORCHES. AND THEN MAYBE IF YOU CAN LOWER THE AMOUNT OF HOMES IN THERE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW A NUMBER WAS THROWN OUT TO 25 TO 10, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO HAVE TO, TO PLAY WITH AND HAVE CREATIVITY WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. MR. PRESIDENT, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT. SO REGARDING YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT OUR LAW DIRECTOR. AND TIM, PLEASE STEP IN WHERE YOU NEED TO. BUT ANY AMENDMENT REQUIRES ANY AMENDMENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION OF THIS WOULD REQUIRE SIX VOTES OF COUNCIL MEMBERS TO APPROVE. I THINK THAT'S THE POINT THAT YOU WERE STATING AMENDING THE SITE PLAN, AND IT WOULD BE PRETTY MAJOR ENGINEERING, A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL SUBSTANTIVE ENGINEERING CHANGE. PLANNING COMMISSION DIDN'T SEE THAT. SO YOU CAN DO IT HERE RIGHT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. AND IF THERE'S A MOTION TO AMEND, YOU'RE AMENDING THAT SITE PLAN. AND THEN THEN IT WOULD COME TO A VOTE, THE MOTION TO AMEND WOULD COME TO VOTE. AND THAT THAT MOTION WOULD REQUIRE SIX VOTES. AND THEN ONCE THAT PASSES, IF IT PASSES, THEN THE LEGISLATION OR THE REZONING, THE PUD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WOULD IT BE IN FRONT OF COUNCIL FOR A VOTE? AND THAT WOULD JUST REQUIRE FOUR VOTES. OKAY. NOW OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN GO BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND RESUBMIT AN AMENDED PUD. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO. IT CAN ALL BE DONE HERE. BUT AGAIN, YOU NEED SIX VOTES. BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THAT WOULD BE A FAVORABLE CHANGE FOR COUNCIL. IF WE DO WHAT I'M ASSUMING, WHAT HAPPENS IS IF WE DO MAKE A CHANGE AND WE HAVE TO GET SIX VOTES, IF WE DON'T GET SIX VOTES, THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS COUNCIL HAS TO VOTE ON WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. SO THE ONLY THING I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IS TAKE GOOD FAITH IN WHAT WE SAID TONIGHT. YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT COME BACK. YOU KNOW, WITH A PLAN THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU HAD. LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS COME COME BACK WITH A WITH A PLAN. IF THOSE ITEMS ARE NOT MET, THEN COUNCIL CAN VOTE ON, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNCIL CAN VOTE TO SEE IF THERE'S SIX OF US THAT AGREE. BUT I WOULD HOPEFULLY I WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT. I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT IN GOOD FAITH YOU WOULD TAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND DO IT ON YOUR OWN TO SEE WHAT YOU CAN COME UP WITH. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING, MR. PRESIDENT. I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING. IF THEY DO MAKE CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN, THEN THEY'RE MAKING CHANGES TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE ZONING. THIS IS A REZONING SO THAT THOSE CHANGES WOULD HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL FOR A VOTE ON A MOTION TO AMEND, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO. YEAH. I MEAN, I IF THEY I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE GOOD FAITH PORTION OF YOUR STATEMENT MEANS, IF THEY IF A SITE PLAN IS, IS APPROVED AS PART OF A PUD, THEN THEY WOULD NEED TO BUILD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT SITE PLAN. AM I AM I ON THE RIGHT PAGE HERE? I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND. WELL, I GUESS I'M JUST SAYING IS YOU CAN YOU KNOW YOU CAN. HE CAN ASK OR COUNCIL MEMBER CAN SAY THESE AMENDMENTS OR HE CAN, YOU KNOW, PUT SOME PUT SOME CREATIVITY AND CHANGE[01:55:07]
SOME THINGS, LISTEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT, SEE IF ANYTHING ELSE YOU KNOW NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND THEN OUT OF ALL, WE WOULD ALLOW HIM TO MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS INSTEAD OF US SAYING, YOU HAVE TO, LET'S SEE WHAT HE CAN COME UP WITH FIRST. AND THEN IF WE NEED TO MAKE CORRECTIONS, THEN COUNCIL CAN VOTE. BUT I JUST FEEL I PERSONALLY ON MY COUNCIL MIGHT DISAGREE. I WOULD THINK LET HIM KIND OF LISTEN TO WHAT WAS SAID TONIGHT AND THEN COME BACK AFTER WHEN CITIZENS COMMENTS AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE CITIZENS COMMENTS WANT TO SAY, THEN THAT GIVES THEM ANOTHER LAYER TO SAY, OKAY, LET ME TAKE THIS BACK. AND THEN AND THEN IN THE END, IF YOU KNOW, BEFORE IT COMES BACK FOR THIRD READING OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO VOTE ON AS A COUNCIL, THEN WE CAN DO THAT. BUT I'M JUST PUTTING IT. I'M JUST SAYING I'M GIVING YOU GUYS THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT THIS DEVELOPMENT AND LISTEN TO WHAT WE SAID TONIGHT AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO. SO AS ANOTHER POINT OF ORDER. SO I GET IT. SO IF YOU YOU'VE YOU'VE HEARD COUNCIL SPEAK TONIGHT, YOU MAY HEAR A LOT MORE FROM CITIZENS OR YOU MAY NOT WHO MAY OR MAY NOT APPEAR AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND THEN YOU CAN TAKE THOSE COMMENTS INTO CONSIDERATION AND THEN MAKE WHATEVER CHANGES YOU FEEL ARE APPROPRIATE. AND IF YOU WERE TO DO THAT, THEN WE'D BE AT THIRD READING. AND IF YOU IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE AN IF YOU CAME BACK AT THIRD READING AND SAID, OKAY, HERE'S A, HERE'S A MODIFIED SITE PLAN, THEN COUNCIL CAN VOTE ON ON THE MODIFIED SITE PLAN IN THE FORM OF A MOTION TO AMEND AT THIRD READING. AND THEN IF THEY DO THAT, THEY STILL REQUIRE SIX VOTES. AND IF THE MOTION TO AMEND PASSES, THEN IT WOULD BY OUR OUR RULES, COME BACK TO ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING, SECOND HEARING OR SECOND READING, PUBLIC HEARING ON THE REZONING AS AMENDED. SO THAT'S PROCEDURALLY, THAT'S HOW WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD IF YOU WANTED TO NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES UNTIL AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AT SECOND HEARING. I GUESS THAT BRINGS UP THE QUESTION IS IT IS IT BETTER FOR US TO GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GET CITIZEN COMMENTS AND THEN TRY TO AMEND THE PLANS JUST SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT TWICE? THAT'S UP TO YOU. I MEAN, THAT SOUNDS REASONABLE TO ME, BUT THAT'S THAT'S YOUR CALL. JUST IF I MAY, ONE POINT OF THAT IS THAT ANYTIME WE WOULD MAKE AN AMENDMENT, IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, IT DOES GO BACK TO SECOND READING. SO THAT DOES REOPEN PUBLIC COMMENT. SO THAT'S CORRECT. KIND OF THAT. YES. KIND OF LISTENING TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND TALKING ABOUT AMENDMENTS. IF THERE WERE TO BE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE TO BE CONSIDERED VOTED ON. SO IF WE COME BACK, COME BACK FOR PUBLIC HEARING, GET KIND OF FEEDBACK OF THE COMMUNITY AS WELL, THEN TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK, MAKE SOME AMENDMENTS, WHATEVER AMENDMENTS WE CAN, AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO YOU. WE'RE GOING TO BE BACK AGAIN FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH, OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. AND THEN YOU'RE YOU HAVE BUILT A DEVELOPMENT IN DELAWARE RIGHT NOW. YOU HAVE ONE IN ACTIVE RIGHT NOW IN DELAWARE. DELAWARE CITY PROPERTY. OKAY. AND WHAT ROAD OR STREET IS THAT LOCATED ON HILLS, MILLER ROAD. HILLS. MILLER MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE JUST THE BUILDER. WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY DEVELOPING IT. SO THERE'S FOUR OTHER BUILDERS IN THERE, BUT WE'RE OPEN. WE HAVE 3 OR 4 MODELS. OUR MAIN CENTERS OF CONSTRUCTION. IT'S A LITTLE BIT LIKE A FALLEN OFF THE BEGINNING, BUT FOR OPENNESS AND SO ON. SO OKAY, ANY OF YOU YOU WANT TO VISIT HAPPY TO COORDINATE THAT.WE SHOULD PROBABLY. OKAY. CAN YOU MISS BROCK, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED. CAN YOU GIVE YOUR INFORMATION TO HER AND SHE CAN SEND IT OUT TO COUNCIL. AND THEN IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MEET, MEET WITH YOU AND LOOK AT THAT SITE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD. THE MORE THE MORE WE CAN LEARN, THE BETTER. YEAH. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND THE LAST THING I'LL SAY ABOUT SOME OF THE COMMENTS IS, YOU KNOW, THE PRODUCT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY ON THE EXTERIOR PRODUCT. AND IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE CAN'T MAKE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, GENTLEMEN HAVE REQUESTED WHEN YOU GET INTO DETACHED GARAGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, US COMING BACK WITH DIFFERENT LOT SIZES, WHICH OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, AFFECTS THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. SO, YOU KNOW, THE PRODUCT ITSELF AND THE FACADE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WORK, WORK THERE. AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT THAT. BUT JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE. LET'S BE BACK FOR SECOND READING AND HEARING ON AUGUST 25TH, 2025. THANK YOU. ON. SEPTEMBER, I THINK WE WERE GOING TO COME BACK SEPTEMBER. WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO STUDY, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A WHOLE EVENT ON AUGUST ANYWAY. SO SECOND FIRST WEEK OF SEPTEMBER OR FIRST WEEK. OKAY. SO IT'S SO
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YOU'RE ASKING THE SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 8TH. IS THAT THE THAT'S THE FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER. RIGHT? JENNIFER. THE EIGHTH IS. YES. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. JUST WE CAN PUT THAT ON THE RECORD SO THAT THAT WILL BE AN ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARING. SO PUBLISHED, ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. SO IT WILL BE BACK SEPTEMBER 8TH. YEAH IT'LL BE BACK IN SEPTEMBER 8TH. NOW YOU MIGHT GET LUCKY BECAUSE I MIGHT NOT BE HERE. BUT DOESN'T GET US OVER THE HUMP. OKAY. THANK YOU GUYS I APPRECIATE IT. SO THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND HEARING SECOND READING AND HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2025. COMMENTS OF[COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL PERSONS AND GENERAL DISCUSSION]
CITY MANAGER. YOU WON'T BE HERE. NO, I KNOW, I'LL TELL YOU THAT. WE WILL BE IN SOMEWHERE ELSE, DONALD. BUT I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER. THANK YOU. OKAY, COUNCIL. AND SINCE MISS KRAMER IS NOT HERE, I'LL GO TO MR. MR. BORDNER, I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENTS THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, MR. WOLFF. NO COMMENT. MR. WORBY. WOW. MR. REAMES MR. HUNTER, JUST IN REGARD TO I MENTIONED THERE WERE LETTERS RECEIVED FROM RESIDENTS ALWAYS WILLING TO HEAR PEOPLE'S CONCERNS, THEIR, THEIR WANTS, THEIR DESIRES, THEIR, THEIR NON WANTS, ALL OF THAT. SO I APPRECIATE THE ENGAGEMENT IN ALL STAGES OF ALL OF THIS. I DIDN'T REALIZE 18% IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. THAT WAS THE URBAN FORESTRY MASTER PLAN SLIDE. THAT NUMBER MAYBE RESONATES WITH SOME FOLKS, BUT ALWAYS WILLING TO ENGAGE WITH FOLKS AND APPRECIATE JUST ANY SORT OF LETTERS. YOU HAVE ANY PHONE CALLS, EMAILS, WHATNOT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENGAGEMENT. APPRECIATE IT.THAT'S IT FOR ME. YEAH. THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS, YOU KNOW, I'VE ALSO RECEIVED LETTERS MAILED FROM MEMBERS OF SAINT JOHN'S AND FOR, FOR JUST FOR PUBLIC RECORD. MY FAMILY'S BEEN A MEMBER OF SAINT JOHN'S SINCE THE DAWNING OF TIME. AND I ATTENDED SCHOOL THERE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I ALSO HAVE TO AS A COUNCIL MEMBER AND BE FAIR AND BALANCED. SO I RESPECT THE LETTERS I'VE GOTTEN AND I RESPECT THE MEMBERS AND SOME MOST OF THEM I DO KNOW. AND SO ANYWAY, ON YOU KNOW, I PERSISTENCE IS A GOOD THING. SO BUT ANYWAY, SAYING THAT I HOPE
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EVERYBODY HAS A WONDERFUL EVENING. THERE IS A POTENTIAL TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF PROPERTY. MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN FOR THE REASON STATED. OKAY. IS THERE A. I'LL SECOND THAT. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? I NEED A ROLL CALL.YEAH. MR. BURGER? YES, MR. HUNTER? YES. MR. YES. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLF. YES. MR. BURBY. YES
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