Aug 25, 2025 City Council

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EVENING EVERYBODY. IT'S 7:00. THERE ARE STILL THREE SEATS UP HERE. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SIT IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THERE'S TWO THAT SIDE BY SIDE, AND THEN THERE'S ONE ALL BY ITSELF.

ANYBODY? SO, YEAH. BARB PHILLIPS SAYS SHE HASN'T ATTACKED ANYBODY LATELY. SO IF YOU. SO I. SO I WANT TO I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE AUGUST 25TH, 2025 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WE WILL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THEN STAY RISING FOR THE INVOCATION, PLEASE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

AMEN. ALMIGHTY GOD, WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND ITS CITIZENS. AMEN. AMEN. ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. BORDNER HERE, MR. WOLF. HERE, MR. BURBY HERE. MR. BURGER HERE. MR. HUNTER HERE.

MISS KRAMER HERE. AND COUNCILMAN REAMES IS EXCUSED. IS THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR

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[ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]

CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST FIFTH STREET. EASTBOUND TRAFFIC WILL BE DETOURED TO SIXTH STREET AT GROVE, AND WORK ON THIS SIDE IS ANTICIPATED TO TAKE 2 TO 3

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THIS CONSTRUCTION ALSO CONTINUES, AND DURING THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS PROJECT, NORTH CHERRY WILL BE CLOSED TO THROUGH TRAFFIC BETWEEN EAST FOURTH STREET AND LAKEVIEW DRIVE, AND WE CONTINUE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE RESERVOIR CONNECTOR TRAIL. PHASE THREE AND THE 2025 PAVING PROGRAM ALSO CONTINUES, WHICH INCLUDES TRAFFIC CALMING ON PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY. THAT IS ALL FOR ENGINEERING UPDATES. MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE A FEW OTHER COMMENTS AND SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO JOIN ME A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT. OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST HERE IN THE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS THIS EVENING. BUT I DID WANT COUNCIL TO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, QUITE REGULARLY. ERIC PHILLIPS IS CREATED A GROUP OF CEOS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THOSE WOULD INCLUDE NOT ONLY HONDA AND SCOTTS REPRESENTATIVES, BUT REPRESENTATIVES FROM. NESTLE, OTHER PEOPLE, HONDA, MARYSVILLE, RICHWOOD BANK, EASE, LOGISTICS, PEOPLE THAT WE MEET WITH AND TALK TO ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY, WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING, WHAT IS HAPPENING AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE GETTING FROM OUR CEOS IS A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE THREE OF OUR CEOS HERE THIS EVENING. I'M NOT REAL SURE WHAT ORDER THEY'D LIKE TO GO IN, BUT I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO THEM. CHAD HOFFMAN WITH RICHWOOD BANK, BRUCE DANIELS WITH HONDA, MARYSVILLE AND PETER CARACCIOLO WITH EASE. LOGISTICS. OBVIOUSLY, EASE LOGISTICS RECENTLY HAS INVESTED A LOT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THEY'RE IN THEIR SPACE. THEY'RE IN INNOVATION PARK AS AS HAS A HONDA, MARYSVILLE AND RICHWOOD BANK OVER THE YEARS. SO IF I WOULD, I WOULD INVITE EACH ONE OF THE REPS TO COME UP IF THEY COULD, AND I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU GUYS. YOU KNOW WHAT ORDER YOU GO IN. SO IT LOOKS LIKE PETER'S GOING TO START. PETER, INTRODUCE YOURSELF IF THAT'D BE GREAT. YEP, THAT'D BE PERFECT. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. PETER CAUTELA, CEO AND PRESIDENT OF LOGISTICS. ANYTHING ELSE I NEED TO DO THERE? GOOD. WELL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.

EXCUSE ME. BEING UP HERE AT PRIVILEGE TO BE UP HERE, BOTH AS A BUSINESS OWNER BUT ALSO PART OF THE COMMUNITY, I CAME HERE IN SUPPORT OF, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT WE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. WHAT ATTRACTED ME TO MARYSVILLE WAS THE SAME ENERGY THAT YOU FEEL HERE TONIGHT, COMMUNITY THAT IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IN A LEADERSHIP, IN THE COMMUNITY THAT REPRESENTS THEM WELL AND LOOKS OUT FOR THEIR BEST INTEREST. AS I'VE GOTTEN TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PLANS WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, WE'VE HAD THE WE'VE HAD THE AVENUE TO SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH THEM.

AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT FROM A STANDPOINT OF NOT ONLY A PART OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT A BUSINESS OWNER HERE, SEEING THE ATTENTION ON GROWTH, BUT ENSURING THAT WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE RIGHT DEVELOPERS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. AND SEEING THE TRACK RECORD, TRACK RECORD OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN NEW ALBANY DO, THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, DO THEY ENSURE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY? THEY INVESTED THE INFRASTRUCTURE, MAKING SURE THAT CITY PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT ALL COME TO A CROSSROADS OF PROVIDING FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO BRINGING IN BUSINESS, RIGHT. AND AS IF WE WANT THE COMMUNITY TO CONTINUE TO GROW, BUT ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKED AT. I THINK FINDING A PARTNER LIKE THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, BEING THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, IS THE RIGHT CHOICE. I SUPPORT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AND BRING IN HERE TO THIS COMMUNITY. SO I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE REPRESENTING THAT. I'M INCREDIBLY APPRECIATIVE OF HOW SUPPORTIVE MARYSVILLE HAS BEEN, AS EASY AS EXPANDED OUR FOOTPRINT, AND I ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY TO LOOK AT THE POSITIVE MOMENTUM OF WHAT THIS DEVELOPMENT CAN DO. USE THESE AVENUES TO CHALLENGE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE COMPANIES COMING IN HERE, BUT KNOW THAT DEVELOPMENT CAN GO 1 OR 2 WAYS. EITHER GET IT RIGHT OR GET IT WRONG. THIS CITY RARELY GETS IT WRONG. I BELIEVE THEY FOUND THE RIGHT PARTNER WITH THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY TO TAKE US TO THE NEXT STEP, SO THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING

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MARYSVILLE IS IN THAT SAME POSITION RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE A TIMELY OPPORTUNITY. FAMILIES WANT TO LIVE HERE. BUSINESSES WANT TO INVEST HERE, AND PEOPLE WANT TO WORK CLOSE TO HOME.

THAT OPPORTUNITY MATTERS AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO LAST. JUST LIKE COMPOUNDING INTEREST IN A SAVINGS ACCOUNT, MOMENTUM BUILDS ON ITSELF. MORE BUSINESSES MEANS MORE JOBS, MORE TAX REVENUE AND MORE RESOURCES TO SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY. IF WE LET MOMENTUM STALL, IT DOESN'T JUST PAUSE, IT ACTUALLY REVERSES. I UNDERSTAND THE HESITATION GROWTH BRINGS CHANGE, AND CHANGE CAN FEEL LIKE LOSING WHAT WE LOVE. BUT THIS PROJECT ISN'T UNCONTROLLED SPRAWL. THIS IS A MASTER PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, A PARTNER THAT HAS PROVEN TIME AND AGAIN THAT THEY PLAN FOR THE LONG HAUL AND FOR THE COMMUNITY. THEY'VE TAKEN THE TIME TO LISTEN TO MARYSVILLE, ITS LEADERS, ITS FAMILIES, ITS CONCERNS, AND THEIR TRACK RECORD SHOWS THAT THEY DELIVER A QUALITY THAT REFLECTS THE CHARACTER OF A COMMUNITY, NOT ERASE IT. ONE OF THEIR DESIGNERS WAS QUOTED AS SAYING, IT IS OUR HOPE THAT THOSE WHO LIVE HERE WILL HAVE RICHER, MORE FULFILLING LIVES BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTY AND CULTURAL AMENITIES WE ARE CREATING. THIS IS ALSO ABOUT ALIGNMENT. BACK IN 2021, MARYSVILLE LAID OUT A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT CALLED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS A KEY OBJECTIVE. THE COMMUNITY'S OWN VOICE SAID, WE WANT TO CAPTURE INVESTMENT, WE WANT TO STRENGTHEN SCHOOLS, AND WE WANT TO ENHANCE DOWNTOWN. TONIGHT IS NOT ABOUT ABANDONING OUR VALUES.

IT'S ABOUT LIVING UP TO A PLAN AND GUIDING GROWTH IN A WAY THAT WORKS FOR US AT OUR BANK.

WE DON'T MEASURE SUCCESS BY WHAT WE KEEP. WE MEASURE IT BY WHAT WE INVEST BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY. GROWTH HERE WORKS THE SAME WAY. IT'S NOT ABOUT MORE ROOFTOPS FOR THE SAKE OF ROOFTOPS. IT'S ABOUT CREATING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WILL LAST FOR GENERATIONS. I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS. A FARMER DOESN'T PLANT SEEDS BECAUSE THE SOIL IS PERFECT, OR THAT THE WEATHER IS CERTAIN THEY PLANT BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN TOMORROW'S HARVEST. TODAY YOU HAVE THE SAME CHOICE BEFORE YOU. DO YOU PLANT FOR THE FUTURE OF MARYSVILLE, OR DO YOU LEAVE THE FIELD BARE AND LET WHATEVER GROWS THERE TAKE ROOT? RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF CENTRAL OHIO, ANDREW, ONE OF THE NATION'S FASTEST GROWING DEFENSE TECHNOLOGIES COMPANIES, IS PLANTING SEEDS OF ITS OWN. THEIR INVESTMENT IS GOING TO TRANSFORM THAT CORRIDOR INTO A HUB OF JOBS, TALENT AND INNOVATIONS FOR DECADES TO COME. THAT ENTIRE SIDE OF THE REGION IS PREPARING FOR HARVEST, AND I DON'T WANT OUR MOMENTUM TO SHIFT THERE. THIS IS THE REALITY. GROWTH IS COMING TO CENTRAL OHIO. THE ONLY QUESTION IS, IN WHOSE FIELD WILL IT GROW AND HOW WILL WE CULTIVATE IT? MARYSVILLE HAS A CHANCE TO PLANT WITH INTENTION AND A DESIRE TO THRIVE. I PERSONALLY SUPPORT THE INVESTMENT IN OUR FUTURE, AND I BELIEVE THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY IS THE RIGHT PARTNER TO ENSURE THAT THE BOUNTIFUL HARVEST BELONGS TO OUR COMMUNITY, BOTH TODAY AND TO TOMORROW. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. AND THANK YOU FOR ALSO THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND HAVING US. I'VE GOT MY NOTES HERE. I CAN'T BE SURE THAT I'LL FOLLOW THEM. YOU GUYS KNOW ME. I DON'T FOLLOW ALONG TOO MUCH, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT THAT CHAD HAD MENTIONED. AND, PETER, I THINK THE I THINK FOR ME, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS, IS THE INVESTMENT, RIGHT OF TIME, ENERGY AND EFFORT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO THANK THE COMMUNITY FOR, AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR, IS WE CAME HERE 20 YEARS AGO AND WITH A HOPE AND A DREAM OF WHAT THINGS COULD BE, AND THEY RATHER EXCEEDED THAT.

IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR THE CULTURE OF OUR BUSINESS, AND I FEEL LIKE I SPEAK FOR THE CULTURE OF THE COMMUNITY TO BE THE BIGGEST AND BOLDEST GIVERS OF OF ANYBODY OR ANYONE SINGLE COUNTY IN THE STATE OF OHIO. AND TO GIVE TO ME, YOU HAVE YOU HAVE TO EARN AND AND BE THE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE THAT YOU BUSINESS YOU CAN POSSIBLY BE. SO WHEN YOUR EARNINGS AND YOU NEED TO CARVE OUT THAT MONEY TO INVEST BACK IN THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT BE UPTOWN FACILITIES OR INVESTMENTS AND OR THE AVALON OR SOME OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE ALL HAVE PITCHED IN AND CONTRIBUTED TO, IT TAKES THAT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT AND THE GROWTH OF BUSINESS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO MY THING JUST REAL QUICK HERE IS I THINK GROWTH IS SCARY. I THINK I

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WE'RE GETTING READY TO TO OPEN AN ACURA DEALERSHIP IN MARYSVILLE. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THAT FOR 20 YEARS. WE FINALLY TALKED THEM INTO IT. RIGHT. BUT BUT IT SHOULD BE THE STATE OF THE ART ACURA STORE. AND THE REASON I'M SHARING THIS WITH YOU IS GUESS WHAT WE NEED AS WE GROW QUALITY PEOPLE. AND WE SHOULD GET THEM RIGHT HERE. OUR STUDENTS AND THE PEOPLE IN THE SCHOOLS THAT WE WORK WITH ARE THE ARE, FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, ARE VERY HIGH QUALITY. AND WE WANT AND WE HAVE THEM, WE HIRE THEM AND THAT'S HOW WE GROW THIS. ANYWAY, I'M GETTING OFF TRACK. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO AT SCHOOLS, THE UPTOWN AND I GUESS BASICALLY THE QUALITY OF LIFE, I WASN'T REALLY SURE WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN I CAME HERE IN OH FIVE. BE QUITE FRANK WITH YOU GUYS. IT WAS DIFFERENT FOR ME. IT WAS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF COMMUNITY. I WASN'T FROM WHAT THEY WERE CALLING AT THAT TIME. RULE, RIGHT? BUT THIS COMMUNITY, I'M NOT SAYING THIS TO BE TO TRY TO PUMP ANYBODY UP IN THIS ROOM. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO CHANGE ANYBODY'S MIND IN THIS ROOM. I'M TRYING TO SAY MAYBE GIVE SOME CONSIDERATION TO HOW WONDERFUL THIS COMMUNITY IS AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE WE'VE ALL BEEN ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE. IT WASN'T A PERSON OR IT WASN'T A GROUP, RIGHT? IT WAS PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER AT THE CHAMBER OFFICE TO SAY WE WEREN'T CHANGED TO UPTOWN. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT BETTER.

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE WHOLE COMMUNITY BETTER. IT'S GOING TO BE QUALITY, RIGHT? AND I DO FEEL MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY HAS THAT DNA. IT HAS THAT QUALITY.

RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT PERFECT. I'M NOT PERFECT. NOBODY IN THIS ROOM IS PERFECT. BUT I DO FEEL THAT WE IF WE CAN GO BACK TO WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT BEFORE, DOES IT HAVE THE QUALITY YOU'RE LOOKING FOR OR THE PEOPLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY, BUSINESS, PUBLIC EDUCATION? IS IT WHAT IS IT? ARE WE BEING LED BY THE PEOPLE YOU WANT AND IS IT CONTROLLED? BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL IT'S GROWING TOO FAST. ONE LAST THING I. I DO FOR SELFISH REASONS AS A BUSINESS PERSON, IN INVESTING IN MAKING COMMUNITY AND CHARITABLE COMMITMENTS OF OF NUMBERS THAT I NEVER THOUGHT WOULD EXIST. I DO HAVE TO CONFESS SOMETHING. OKAY. WHEN 74 COUNTIES ARE EXPECTED TO DECLINE IN THE IN THE STATE OF OHIO BY 2050, I WANT TO BE ONE OF THE 14 THAT DOESN'T. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT EVERY ONE OF THE, SAY, 60,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE INSIDE THOSE BORDERS, RIGHT? THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A GOOD WORD TO USE IN A PUBLIC SETTING, RIGHT? EVERYBODY HATES THAT WORD. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO PROTECT AND NOT EXPECT PERFECTION FROM ANY ONE SINGLE PERSON. RIGHT? WORK TOGETHER. WE CAN CONTROL GROWTH, BUT GROWTH IS GOOD. THE REASON I BELIEVE IT'S GOOD IS BECAUSE REVERSE IS NOT GOOD. IT DOESN'T WORK. YOU CAN'T GIVE WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE, RIGHT? SO I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO ME. AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T STICK TO THE NOTES, BUT IT'S NEVER REALLY WORKED OUT FOR ME.

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[PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT]

WE HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS THAT YOU WILL SEE TONIGHT ON THE AGENDA FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO I'LL BE. I'LL BE BRIEF ON THIS. WE HAD. PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT. OKAY. ALL NEW BUSINESS ITEMS RELATED TO ZONING CODE UPDATES. WE WOULD. THERE WAS FIRST VOTE TO AMEND THE RULES AND PROCEDURES TO REQUIRE SUPERMAJORITY. VOTE FOR CONDITIONAL USES. THAT VOTE WAS DENIED. THREE. YES. THREE. NO. THE NEXT ITEM WAS TO HEAR AN APPLICATION FOR ZONING CODE.

AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE. APPENDIX. GLOSSARY TERMS FOR RESTAURANT DEFINITION THAT WAS APPROVED SIX. YES ZERO. NO. THE NEXT ITEM WAS FOR ANOTHER ZONING CODE AMENDMENT ON PART 11 FOR SECTION 1141 .38 ACTION BY COUNCIL. ANOTHER ITEM YOU WILL SEE LATER ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING. APPROVED. SIX. YES. ZERO. NO. AND THEN TWO MORE. HERE WE HAVE ANOTHER ZONING CODE AMENDMENT ADDRESSING PUBLIC NOTIFICATIONS. APPROVED SIX YES. ZERO NO. AND THE LAST ONE IS RELATED TO DENSITY BONUS SECTION. 1120 306 APPROVED SIX. YES ZERO. NO. AND ALL OF THOSE WILL BE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS GARBER?

[DESIGN REVIEW BOARD REPORT]

NEXT APPLICATION WAS AT 503 WEST FIFTH STREET. THIS WAS APPROVED. SIX. YES. ONE. NO.

AND THEN THAT WAS AMENDED TO ONLY ALLOW THE PORCH OF FLOOR TO BE APPROVED. AS PART OF THAT APPLICATION. THE NEXT APPLICATION WAS AT 511 MORNINGSTAR DRIVE. APPROVED.

SEVEN. YES. ZERO. NO. WE HAD OTHER EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE HOME IMPROVEMENT GRANT AT 173 ELWOOD AVENUE. ALSO APPROVED SEVEN. YES ZERO NO. 739 LORENZO DRIVE. APPROVED SEVEN. YES ZERO NO AND 311 FERNWOOD COURT APPROVED SEVEN. YES ZERO. NO. THE NEXT ITEMS WERE OLD BUSINESS. THIS WAS FOR PAINTING AT THE LIGGETT BUILDING. THAT APPLICATION WAS APPROVED SEVEN. YES. ZERO. NO. SO THAT WAS PAINTING AS WELL AS UPDATED WINDOWS. FOLLOWING THE NEW ZONING CODE WINDOW REQUIREMENTS, NEW BUSINESS ITEMS FOR THIS MONTH WAS A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DEVELOPMENT ALONG MILFORD AVENUE, WHICH IS IN OUR SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. PARCEL ID 2900191250020. THIS ITEM WAS TABLED AT DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AND WILL BE BACK, I THINK PROBABLY IN THE OCTOBER MEETING IS WHAT THEY'RE ANTICIPATING RIGHT NOW. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATE APPLICATION IN THE HISTORIC DESIGN REVIEW DISTRICT FOR 214 SOUTH COURT STREET. THIS WAS FOR DEMOLITION TO REMOVE THE GARAGE AT THE REAR AT THE UFFINGER SITE. AND THEN THE LAST ITEM WE HAD WAS THE THE WATER AND LIGHT PROJECT. THEY WERE ADDED TO THE AGENDA JUST AS A DISCUSSION ITEM TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, GET MORE FEEDBACK ON THEIR APPLICATION AND THEY ARE ACTUALLY SCHEDULED TO BE IN THE SEPTEMBER MEETING. SO THAT ITEM DID NOT HAVE A VOTE AT ALL, BUT IT WAS JUST A DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE BOARD AND THE APPLICANT. AND THAT IS EVERYTHING FOR DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. BEFORE WE GET TO HEARING OF CITIZENS, THERE ARE A COUPLE LETTERS THAT WAS SENT

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[HEARING OF CITIZENS]

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO US AND HEARING US OUT ON THIS TOPIC. THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE? HI, I'M MICHELLE NICODEMUS, I LIVE OUT IN BUXTON MEADOWS. YOU'VE HEARD OF US

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YOU'VE MET WITH US BEFORE. PEOPLE LIVE IN THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THE SMALL TOWN CHARM WHERE THE GRASS IS ALWAYS GREENER. BUSINESSES SHOWING AN INTEREST IN OUR AREA MAY SEEM FLATTERING TO SOME, BUT WITH THAT COMES THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COUNCIL TO BE SELECTIVE.

TAKE THE TIME TO RESEARCH HOW THE CITY AND GROUNDWATER WILL BE IMPACTED. TAKE THE TIME TO RESEARCH HOW IT WILL AFFECT ENERGY DEMAND AND RATES. TAKE THE TIME TO RESEARCH THE POTENTIAL FOR DIFFERENT POLLUTANTS. LET'S DO THIS BEFORE AN ITEM OR BUSINESS IS APPROVED AS A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A PUD, IT SEEMS WE ARE REACTING. WE ARE SORRY REACTING RATHER THAN WE ARE BEING REACTIVE RATHER THAN BEING PROACTIVE. A NEW ENTERPRISE MAY SOUND ALL BRIGHT AND SHINY. FOR EXAMPLE, A BUSINESS COMING TO THE INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY IS PROMISING. ECONOMIC GROWTH FOR THE AREA SOUNDS GREAT, BUT THE CONSTRUCTION JOBS ARE TEMPORARY, AND THE 25 HIGH PAYING JOBS WILL PROBABLY BE REMOTE JOBS, NOT EVEN IN OUR COMMUNITY. DOES THIS SOUND LIKE IT'S WORTH THE DRAIN TO OUR COMMUNITY? RESOURCES. THE SOUL OF MARYSVILLE IS GOING. IF THE SOUL OF MARYSVILLE IS GOING TO BE SOLD, I ASK THAT YOU BE MINDFUL ABOUT HOW IT IS BEING REPLACED. THANK YOU. DOUG JENKINS, BUXTON MEADOWS I WANT TO THANK YOU, THREE GENTLEMEN FOR TALKING. YOU PRESENT SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS. I THINK THE CITIZENS HEAR YOU, BUT THERE'S THERE'S A LITTLE MORE TO IT. AND, MR. DANIELS, I THINK YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD. IT'S ALL ABOUT CONTROL, GROWTH AND HAVING A PLAN. AND I CAN TELL YOU WHEN YOU RECENTLY REDID YOUR YOUR FACILITY, YOU HAD A PLAN, YOU KNEW WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE. AND IT WAS A MULTI YEAR PLAN. AND YOU ACTUALLY PRESENTED IT TO YOUR CUSTOMERS BECAUSE I'M A HONDA OWNER, PRODUCT OF WHAT IT WAS GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE OVER THE YEARS, AND YOU HAD NICE DIAGRAMS. AND FROM WHAT I COULD TELL YOU EXECUTED THAT. AND EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE BEEN IN YOUR BUILDING FOR SOME TIME, I WOULD IMAGINE YOU DIDN'T SAY, HEY, I WANT TO MOVE ACROSS THE STREET. YOU ALSO HAD A PLAN. AND SAME THING WITH THESE LOGISTICS. YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE HEADQUARTERS IS RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD IN DUBLIN, YOU ALSO HAD AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO TO CONTINUE TO BUILD YOUR YOUR BUSINESS SINCE YOU'RE RELATIVELY NEW. SO YOU HAD A PLAN. WHY I'M BRINGING THIS UP IS I BROUGHT IT UP NUMEROUS TIMES OVER THE YEARS ABOUT HOW YOU GUYS HAVE PLANS, BUT YOU DON'T SEEM TO FOLLOW THEM. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THESE THREE GENTLEMEN IF THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW THEIR PLANS THAT, YOU KNOW, MR. DANIELS HAS TOLD A BUNCH OF WORKERS, GO TO IT. I DON'T THINK THIS PLACE WOULD LOOK LIKE IT IS TODAY. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS NOT FOLLOWED, AND YOU GUYS SHRUGGED IT OFF. AND THEN YOU JUST BUILT A THOROUGHFARE PLAN IN 23 WHERE THE ROADS WERE SUPPOSED TO GO.

BUT THAT IS NO LONGER THE CASE. BASED ON WHAT NEW ALBANY COMPANY HAS PRESENTED, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE CONSTANTLY CHANGING BASED ON THE WIND DIRECTION. OR I WOULD SAY, AS THE DEVELOPERS FEEL, AND YOU'RE NOT REALLY INCLUDING THE CITIZENS OF THE MARYSVILLE ON YOUR VISION AS WELL. REMEMBER, THEY'RE THE ONES VOTED YOU INTO THE OFFICE. ALL WE DO IS ASK YOU TO BE TRANSPARENT. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT OF VENDORS OUT THERE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO SIT THERE AND KEEP CERTAIN THINGS CONFIDENTIAL, BUT YOU, AS A COUNCIL, HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN. YOU KNOW, CITY PLANNING HAS A PLAN. THEY HAVE CERTAIN THINGS THAT THEY GO THROUGH. SO WHEN THE DEVELOPER COMES IN THERE, THEY COULD CHECK THE LIST. BUT I DON'T SENSE FROM THIS CITY COUNCIL THAT YOU GUYS PLAN IS SOLID ENOUGH. SO IT BECOMES AN ELEMENT OF DISTRUST.

HOW CAN WE BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY WHEN, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME DOWN THE ROAD YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND BASED ON SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S PRESENTED? WHY DON'T YOU TOMORROW NIGHT REALLY PRESENT A GOOD PLAN TO THE CITIZENS THAT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT PRESENTATION AND FOLLOW THROUGH WITH IT. AND I THINK THEN THAT WILL START HELPING YOU BUILD TRUST. AND I THINK THAT WILL ACTUALLY ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY. SO, LIKE MR. DANIELS SHOWED IN HIS HIS SHOWROOM, THESE ARE THE PLANS. HERE'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO EXECUTE TO THEM. YOU KNOW, AND WHETHER, YOU KNOW MORE ANNEXATION IS INVOLVED. JUST BE TRANSPARENT ON HOW IT IS.

THERE'S A LOT OF LAND THAT SURROUNDS MARYSVILLE. SO THE DEVELOPMENT IS UNLIMITED. BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST CAN'T SIT THERE AND JUST GO WITH THE FLOW. YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA STAY THE

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BUT SADLY, YOU KNOW, NOW THE PROPERTY VALUES HAVE GONE UP AND MOST PEOPLE WHO CLAIM THEMSELVES MIDDLE CLASS CAN NEVER AFFORD THEM. BUT ORIGINALLY THEY WERE FOR MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA. MAYOR COLUMBUS, YOU KNOW, URBAN. MOST CITIES CUT DOWN THEIR TREES. CANAL WINCHESTER AND MARYSVILLE, THOUGH, WERE MORE RURAL. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THERE'S THERE'S A LOT MORE FARMLAND. BUT WHERE I'M GETTING WITH THIS IS TO CREATE RESPONSIBLE GROWTH.

YOU FIRST HAVE TO CREATE A PLAN WHICH YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT. THIS PLAN TOOK US TWO YEARS IN THE MAKING TO CREATE. THAT'S RESPONSIBLE GROWTH. WHAT THIS PLAN SHOWED US WAS THERE WAS A PROBLEM. WE'RE ONLY 14% CANOPY. NOW. I SEE COMMENTS ON FACEBOOK. PEOPLE SAY, I DON'T WANT ANY MORE TREES. I DON'T WANT THIS, I DON'T WANT THAT. BUT OUR PLAN STATES WE DO NEED MORE TREES AND MARYSVILLE'S HISTORY. THE SOUL OF MARYSVILLE USED TO BE WE WERE THE MOST SHADED COMMUNITY IN THE MIDWEST IN 1886. YOU COULD DRIVE DOWN ANY STREET IN MARYSVILLE AND NEVER SEE THE SUNLIGHT UNTIL THE TWISTER CAME THROUGH AND KNOCKED THEM ALL DOWN. THEN IN THE 70S, EVERYBODY WAS REALLY ANTI-ENVIRONMENT. AND THEN NIXON PUSHED ENVIRONMENTAL POLICIES AND STARTED GETTING AMERICA BACK GOING AGAIN. AND THEN EVER SINCE THEN, AMERICA'S TRIED TO DO WHAT IT CAN TO PLANT MORE TREES. AND WE AS A CITY HAVE TRIED TO DO WHAT WE CAN. BUT FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, WE HAVE A PLAN THAT SAYS NOT ONLY ARE WE AT 14.8% CANOPY, BUT 56% OF OUR LAND MASS CAN HOLD MORE TREES. SO NOW THE THOUGHT PROCESS COMES IN IS HOW DO WE PLANT MORE TREES? AND HOW DO WE PAY TO MAINTAIN THOSE TREES? BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROBLEM, WE HAVE A SOLUTION THAT TELLS US THESE ARE OUR GOALS. NOW IT'S HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO IT? THESE ARE THE DECISIONS THAT YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW THAT I PROMISE YOU WE ARE MAKING. AND I PROMISE YOU THAT WE ARE PROTECTING THE SOUL OF MARYSVILLE BY. YES. COULD WE HAVE DONE THIS 20, 30 YEARS AGO? ABSOLUTELY. BUT THIS COMMUNITY NEVER STOOD BEHIND THESE TYPES OF PRESERVATION, PROTECTION OF OPEN SPACE, PLANTING TREES AND ALL THOSE THINGS. BECAUSE SADLY, JUST LIKE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US, RIGHT, WE ALL WAIT UNTIL SOMETHING DRASTIC HAPPENS OUR LIVES BEFORE WE REALIZE, WOW, WE SHOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO CHANGE THAT. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE SAID THAT WE WANTED TO DO. SO, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE PLANT MORE TREES? WELL, COMES TO RAISING DESIGN STANDARDS. IT COMES TO RAISING LANDSCAPE STANDARDS. IT COMES TO SAYING THAT IF A DEVELOPMENT COMES IN AND CUTS DOWN WOODS, WE CAN SAY, HEY, HERE'S AN X AMOUNT OF TREES THAT YOU SHOULD PROTECT BECAUSE OUR TREE CANOPY STUDY OR IF YOU'RE GOING TO CUT DOWN THOSE TREES, THESE ARE HOW MANY TREES YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO PLANT. NOW THAT TAKES LEGISLATION AND THAT TAKES COMMITMENT FROM YOUR COUNCIL TO MAKE SOMETHING LIKE

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PEOPLE COMPLAIN, PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT CONSISTENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS. PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT ECONOMIC DECLINE. WHY DO WE HAVE ALL THESE WAREHOUSE JOBS? WHY DO WE HAVE ALL THESE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS? THE IMPACT ON THE LOCAL ENVIRONMENT, LOSS OF COMMUNITY IDENTITY. YOU KNOW, I GREW UP HERE AND I'VE SEEN HISTORICAL HOME AFTER HISTORICAL HOME BE MODERNIZED VINYL SIDING OVER THE HISTORICAL PORCHES BEING TORN OFF. AND I'VE SEEN HISTORICAL BUILDINGS IN UPTOWN MARYSVILLE BE LOST. I WISH I HAD YOU GUYS STANDING IN RED SHIRTS SAYING, I WANT TO PROTECT THE SOUL OF MARYSVILLE. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS THE REACTION AND THE AND IN THE LACK OF LACK OF REACTION TO DECISION MAKING. NOW, I'M NOT SAYING THIS BECAUSE I'M UPSET WITH ANY OF YOU BEING HERE BECAUSE THIS IS ALL DEMOCRACY.

ALL I'M SAYING IS I NEED YOU AT ALL. ALL QUARTERS OF THE FOOTBALL GAME BECAUSE I BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ARE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO PRESERVE THIS COMMUNITY. AND SOMETIMES THAT MEANS IT MIGHT LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BECAUSE I'M SURE MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER LOOKS PROBABLY IF I BROUGHT HER UP OUT OF SAINT JOHNS CEMETERY TODAY, SHE'D PROBABLY LOOK AT MARYSVILLE AND SAY, WELL, THIS LOOKS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN IT THAN IT DID WHEN I WAS LIVING HERE. AND EVERY GENERATION HAS LOOKED AT MARYSVILLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT DOES NOW. BUT THAT'S OKAY. SO I JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING, AND I HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL TOMORROW NIGHT. AND I HOPE THAT MORE PEOPLE SHOW UP TO THIS AND THESE. THIS IS THE FIRST STEP. THESE ARE THE PLANS. THEN WE GOT TO PUT IT IN ZONING CODE. AND THEN WHEN. SO WHEN PEOPLE GO ON FACEBOOK AND THEY SAY ABOUT WE'RE TRYING TO BE LIKE DUBLIN, WE'RE DOING ALL THESE THINGS AND I NEED ALL YOU GUYS TO COME OUT AND SAY, NO, YOU'RE NOT. WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THE SOUL OF MARYSVILLE. WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE IT. SO THOSE ARE JUST MY LITTLE COMMENTS FOR FOR TONIGHT. AND PLEASE UNDERSTAND I'M NOT YELLING AT ANYBODY. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE HERE, WE ARE LISTENING, AND WE ARE TRYING. SO IN SAYING THAT

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MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL DEFER TO. I BELIEVE A MEMBER OF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BIT THIS EVENING. YEAH I'LL DEFER I'LL DEFER THERE. SURE. THANKS, MR. EMERY. YEAH.

SO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITIZENS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE. SO WHAT WE'RE HEARING IS AN AMENDMENT THAT IS INITIATED BY COUNCIL, MYSELF, COUNCILMAN BURGER ARE BRINGING THIS FORWARD. AND COUNCILMAN WOLFF, SORRY, BRINGING THIS FORWARD. WE DISCUSSED THIS AT LAST MONTH'S PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETING. AND WHAT THIS DOES, IS IT KIND OF WHAT WE HAD HEARD ABOUT IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT? THEY DISCUSSED A RULES CHANGE TO HAVE MAJORITY OR I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW IT WAS ACTUALLY WORDED. SUPER MAJORITY TO PASS CONDITIONAL USES. AND AS YOU HAD HEARD IN THE REPORT THAT HAD FAILED THREE THREE. SO

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THIS IS BEING INITIATED BY COUNCIL, PERHAPS GIVING A SECOND CONSIDERATION. AND I DID JUST PREPARE A COUPLE COMMENTS. SO WHEN I HAD FIRST RAN FOR COUNCIL, SO I HAD MADE A PROMISE AND THAT WAS TO STRENGTHEN THE INTEGRITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND ENSURE THAT GROWTH IN OUR CITY REFLECTS THE VALUES THAT WE HOLD. RESPONSIBILITY, TRANSPARENCY, COMMUNITY, PRIDE. AND TONIGHT, I AM PROUD TO STAND BESIDE MEMBERS HERE SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT PROPOSAL. AT ITS CORE, IT'S ABOUT REINFORCING THE SAFEGUARDS AROUND CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATIONS, THOSE PROJECTS THAT REQUIRE A HIGHER LEVEL OF SCRUTINY BECAUSE THEY CAN SIGNIFICANTLY SHAPE THE CHARACTER AND FUTURE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR IN, I THINK IT WAS 2021, THE SHEETS DEVELOPMENT ON THE CORNER OF DELAWARE AVENUE AND CHERRY STREET, I THINK IT IS THAT DEVELOPMENT WENT THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION AT THAT MEETING, THE FOUR MEMBERS PRESENT, AND IT TOOK A MAJORITY TO PASS. SO THREE MEMBERS VOTED IN FAVOR. IT WAS APPROVED A MAJORITY OF PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED IN, I THINK THE FOLLOWING YEAR. IT WAS WHEN I WAS A MEMBER OF PLANNING COMMISSION 2022. AT THAT TIME, THE CHAIR WAS JERMAINE FERGUSON, AND HE HAD INITIATED A RULE WHICH I BELIEVE IS STILL IN PLACE TODAY, AND THAT WAS TO CREATE A MINIMUM OF THE MAJORITY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION BODY. SO THAT MOVED THE MINIMUM VOTE TO A MINIMUM OF FOUR. SO IT'S FOUR OUT OF SEVEN. AND WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT A SUPERMAJORITY. SO IT NEEDS TO HAVE FIVE VOTES OUT OF SEVEN. AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THAT, BUT THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW IT WAS WORDED IN THE LEGISLATION. SO CURRENTLY, DECISIONS ON CONDITIONAL USE APPROVALS CAN BE MADE WITH A SIMPLE MAJORITY OF THE BODY QUANTITY. SO THAT'S FOUR OUT OF SEVEN. A HANDFUL OF INDIVIDUALS CAN GREEN LIGHT DEVELOPMENTS OR DECISIONS ON PARTICULAR PARCELS THAT MAY NOT ALIGN WITH OUR LONG TERM VISION.

SOME PEOPLE HAVE APPROACHED ME OVER THE YEARS THAT I'VE NOW BEEN SERVING, OR YEAR AND A HALF THAT I'VE BEEN SERVING AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHY? WHY, AS COUNCIL, AREN'T YOU JUST DICTATING EVERYTHING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES? WELL, THERE IS THERE'S AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE THERE, BUT THERE'S AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE IN THE OPPOSITE, WHICH IS WE AS COUNCIL APPOINT A CITIZEN LED GROUP TO MAKE DECISIONS WITH SOME LEVEL OF INDEPENDENCE. AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT THAT. SO TO STEAMROLL OUR COMMISSION, OUR BODIES OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT PUT TIME AND ENERGY AND, YOU KNOW, ON BEHALF OF CITIZENS, I DON'T REALLY I THINK THERE'S MORE INTEGRITY IF WE WORK TOGETHER AND TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, CHANGES AS, AS THEY NEED TO BE MADE. THIS AMENDMENT RAISES THE THRESHOLD TO THAT TWO THIRDS MAJORITY, ENSURING THAT CONDITIONAL USES ARE APPROVED ONLY WHEN THERE IS A BROAD CONSENSUS AMONG OUR CITIZEN LED PLANNING COMMISSION. IT'S A SIMPLE CHANGE, BUT IT'S A POWERFUL ONE. IT STRENGTHENS THE PROCESS. IT PROTECTS OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, PROTECTS OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. IT ENSURES THAT DEVELOPMENT IS NOT JUST FAST, BUT IT IS THOUGHTFUL, DELIBERATE, AND IN LINE WITH THE VALUES THAT THE RESIDENTS EXPECT. SO OF COURSE, GROWTH IS A HOT TOPIC. I THINK MANY HERE TONIGHT ARE NOT HERE TO TO AN INTEREST OF RESOLUTION A, BUT IT IS WORTH YOUR TIME TO LOOK INTO. BUT THE GROWTH THAT WE THAT WE SEE THE PROGRESS I WOULD SAY THE PROGRESS THAT MANY OF US WANT, PROGRESS THAT SHOULDN'T COME AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR IDENTITY IN THIS AMENDMENT IS NOT BY NO MEANS ANTI-GROWTH. IT'S PRO SMART GROWTH. IT'S ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WHEN WE SAY YES TO DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE SAYING YES TO PROJECTS THAT ENHANCE OUR COMMUNITY AND NOT COMPROMISE IT. AND THIS INITIATIVE, IT REFLECTS THE KIND OF LEADERSHIP THAT I PROMISE TO BRING TO COUNCIL, ONE THAT LISTENS, ONE THAT ACTS, AND ONE THAT BUILDS TRUST THROUGH TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. AND I URGE FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT, NOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD POLICY, BUT IT'S THE IT'S THE KIND OF POLICY THAT PUTS OUR RESIDENTS FIRST. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. OKAY.

BEFORE I ALLOW OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SPEAK, I'LL ALLOW CITIZENS TO SPEAK ON THE TOPIC.

IF THERE'S ANY CITIZEN THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON THE TOPIC. OKAY, MISS YOUNG. CATHY YOUNG, 425 WEST EIGHTH. SO I WAS AT THE MEETING WHERE THEY DISCUSSED THIS, AND I KIND OF FEEL LIKE YOU'RE STEAMROLLING THE COMMISSION THAT YOU GUYS APPOINTED, WHETHER IT'S THE ISSUE OR NOT. I'M NOT ARGUING THE ISSUE. I JUST FEEL LIKE YOU APPOINTED THESE PEOPLE AND NOW YOU'RE STEAMROLLING AND SAYING, I DON'T I DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT THEY VOTED. SO I'M GOING TO DO WHAT I WANT TO DO REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE PEOPLE I APPOINTED ARE SAID. AND THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. BUT REGARDLESS OF THE ISSUE. THANK YOU. OKAY. NOW OH, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY.

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THIS IS SIMPLY IT WOULD BE A CHANGE TO ADOPT THEM. VOTING BY A SUPERMAJORITY TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USES. BUT I THINK AS WE THINK ABOUT OTHER CONDITIONAL USES, POTENTIALLY IN THE FUTURE, THIS ADDS THAT HEIGHTENED EVALUATION POINT, I GUESS, OR LEVEL OF SCRUTINY TO THE DECISION. WHICH MIGHT BE A BENEFIT TO TO ME. TO ME, I'LL SAY IT'S A BENEFIT TO THE RESIDENT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE MORE ADDED TO ALLOW A CONDITIONAL USE. SO LIKE FOR INSTANCE, TO YOU GUYS OUT THERE WHO GOT CONDITIONAL, WHO GOT DATA CENTERS, WE ALL WORK TO GET DATA CENTERS. AS A CONDITIONAL USE. YOU SHOULD BE JUMPING UP IN JOY KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE A POSSIBILITY TO COME TO PLANNING COMMISSION, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE FIVE PEOPLE TO VOTE ON ALLOWING A DATA CENTER TO BE PROPOSED OR NOT, INSTEAD OF FOUR. SO YOU KNOW IT. IT ADDS ANOTHER LEVEL OF CRITERIA IN THE PROCESS. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID, YOU KNOW, PUTTING FAITH IN THE SYSTEM, GIVING POWER BACK TO RESIDENTS. THAT'S WHAT OUR BOARDS AND THAT'S WHAT THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO DO. SO THAT'S. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS. YEAH. I WOULD JUST SAY THAT YOU PUT IT VERY ELOQUENTLY, SCOTT, THAT THIS INCREASES SCRUTINY ON CONDITIONAL USES THAT DON'T NECESSARILY BELONG IN A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING IN OR IN A PUD. AND IT ALSO ENCOURAGES THAT RESPONSIBLE GROWTH THAT WE'VE ALL SAID WE WANT TO SEE AND WE WANT TO SEE IN THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME TO TOWN. SO ADDING THIS FIVE MEMBER THRESHOLD, THE TWO THIRDS MAJORITY, I THINK IS A WELL NEEDED ADDITION TO THE RULES HERE. I THINK, MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING THE ZONING CHANGE. OKAY. PLANNING COMMISSION IS AN INDEPENDENT BODY. THEY'RE JUST BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER A ZONING CHANGE, AND THEY WILL BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU. IT MAY BE WHAT YOU'VE ASKED THEM TO DO, OR IT MAY BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND THEN IT'LL BE A ZONING AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU, WHICH WILL AT THIS POINT REQUIRE FOUR VOTES TO TO PASS OR SIX VOTES TO AMEND. SO ALL THIS IS, IS, IS INITIATION OF A ZONING CHANGE IN THE THE TEXT OF THE ZONING CODE. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? IS THERE A DO ANY OF YOU GUYS WANT I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. OKAY. ROLL CALL, MR. HUNTER. YES, MISS KRAMER? YES, MR. BORDNER. YES, MR. WOLF. YES. MR. BURR YES. MR. BURGER? YES. SIX. YES. ORDINANCE, A

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SO THAT IS A SECONDARY OR A THIRD LEG OF THIS PROCESS THAT WE'LL GET AN ANSWER TO SOON.

BUT THERE'S STILL NEGOTIATIONS GOING ON, SO I CAN'T REALLY ANSWER THAT THIS EVENING. THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ONLY ALLOWS US TO RECEIVE THE FUNDS FROM AMAZON FOR THE LAND PURCHASE ALSO PAYS US FOR THE ROADWAY, THE INNOVATION ROAD EXTENSION. THERE IS MENTION OF THE WATER SEWER SERVICE AGREEMENT, BUT STILL NEGOTIATIONS. SO WE STILL GOT TO HAVE TO GET THAT FINALIZED. OKAY. WE WILL REPORT BACK OKAY. DO I HEAR A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. ROLL CALL. MISS KRAMER. YES. MR. BORDNER? YES. MR. WOLFF. NO.

MR. BURR YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER? YES. FIVE. YES. ORDINANCE BE ORDINANCE BE THIRD

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ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING FURTHER. COUNCIL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. ROLL CALL.

MISS KRAMER, I'M SORRY, MR. BORDNER. YES, MR. WOLF. YES. MR. BURBY. YES, MR. BURGER? YES.

MR. HUNTER? YES. SIX. YES. ORDINANCE C, ORDINANCE C, THIRD READING VOTE TO REDRAW THE WARD

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ROLL CALL, MR. WOLFF. YES. MR. YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MISS. KRAMER. YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. SIX. YES. ORDINANCE D ORDINANCE D THIRD READING VOTE TO ACCEPT THE

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UNION COUNTY TO THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, OHIO, KNOWN AS MARYSVILLE EAST. SECTION FOUR.

ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING FURTHER. COUNCIL. IS THERE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. ROLL CALL, MR. BURBEE. YES, MR. BURGER? YES, MR. HUNTER? YES, MISS. KRAMER? NO. MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. WOLFE? NO. FOUR. YES. TWO. NO. MOTION.

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OKAY, SO IF THERE'S NOT ANY ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS, I WILL ASK THAT, MISS BROCK. THIS IS THE POINT IN TIME WHERE THEY KNOW, OKAY, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE FROM THE NEW ALBANY GROUP THAT THAT WANTS TO SPEAK? GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DICK ROGGENKAMP. I'M THE MANAGING DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE FOR THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY AT 8000 WALTON PARKWAY, NEW ALBANY, OHIO. WE HAVE SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL OR TO THE CLERK A LETTER OUTLINING A NUMBER OF

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NEXT IS THE NEIGHBORS REQUESTS AND CONCERNS AND AND THESE I'M GOING TO COMMENT ON THAT FOR A MOMENT. WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS ON ON TWO OCCASIONS FOR ABOUT AN HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF EACH TIME. WE'VE ALSO HAD INDIVIDUAL CONFERENCES WITH DIFFERENT NEIGHBORS. AND SO THIS ISN'T AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST, BECAUSE IT WAS A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN REPETITIVE. BUT BUT I THINK IT ACCURATELY REFLECTS THE GIST OF THINGS. THE THE NEXT COLUMN WITH THE GREEN HEADING IS THE REVISED ZONING TEXT. THAT'S BEFORE YOU OR THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO TO INCLUDE THE REVISIONS TONIGHT. THIS INCLUDES REVISIONS THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY COMMITTED TO IN EARLIER PRESENTATIONS TO COUNCIL, AS WELL AS ONES THAT WE HAVE MADE MOST RECENTLY, IN FACT, I THINK AS RECENTLY AS THIS MORNING, NEXT, YOU SEE THE MARYSVILLE EAST SECTION ONE ZONING TEXT AND THEN THE MARYSVILLE EAST SECTION TWO ZONING TEXT. THOSE ARE THE TWO PRIOR ZONING APPLICATIONS THAT WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL. AND THOSE ARE THERE TO TO KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT TO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND WHERE WE ARE VERSUS WHERE WE ENDED UP AGAIN AFTER AFTER DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCIL AND IN THE CONTEXT OF OF ZONING NUMBER TWO, THE BUXTON MEADOWS NEIGHBORS. SO THIS FIRST PAGE PERMITTED USES THIS SIMPLY OUTLINES ALL THE PERMITTED USES IN IN THE AREAS. AND SO THE THE MIDDLE COLUMN, THE GREEN HEADED ONE, YOU KNOW ALL THE ALL THE PERMITTED USES ARE THE SAME AS IN IN SECTIONS ONE AND SECTIONS TWO, THE PRIOR ZONING, WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT WE HAVE DELETED DATA CENTERS AS A PERMITTED USE IN THIS ZONING AREA. IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, PLEASE. LET ME JUST SCROLL DOWN. YEAH. OKAY. NEXT WE COME TO CONDITIONAL USES. AGAIN. WHAT WE INITIALLY PROPOSED WAS THE SAME AS IN THE PRIOR TO ZONING. OR AS THE ZONING ONE. NOT QUITE ZONING TWO WE ELIMINATED THE GROUND PASSENGER DISPATCH, RECYCLING CENTERS, WAREHOUSING FOR PERSONAL STORAGE AND EXTENDED STAY HOTELS. THOSE WERE ALL THE REQUESTS OF COUNCIL AT AN EARLIER PROCEEDING. AND THEN WE HAVE MOVED DATA CENTERS TO A CONDITIONAL USE, BUT ONLY IN THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE ZONING DISTRICT. SO THIS WOULD BE THE PORTION OF THE ZONING WEST OF SUBAREA D, WHICH IS THE GREEN SPACE CORRIDOR ALONG THE CREEK. NEXT YOU SEE THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT. THE REQUESTED HEIGHT WAS 70FT, WHICH WAS CONSISTENT WITH SOME OF THE FIRST AND SECOND ZONING. THE RESIDENTS REQUESTED 50FT. WE HAVE COMMITTED TO 60FT, AND WE BELIEVE THAT IS AS LOW AS WE CAN GO FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT, BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE TYPE OF USERS WE EXPECT TO ATTRACT. THE GENERAL PARAMETERS FOR SETBACKS.

THESE ARE BEFORE YOU GET INTO SPECIAL AREAS. THOSE ARE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD.

AND SO FOR EXAMPLE YEAH. SO THOSE ARE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD. THE ADDITIONAL SPECIFIC SETBACKS HERE IS WHERE WE TRY TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC CONCERNS OF NEIGHBORS. I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO POINT FIRST TO THE ZONING NUMBER TWO AT THE FAR RIGHT. THAT'S THE THAT'S WHERE WE ACCOMMODATED BUXTON MEADOWS WITH PAVEMENT SETBACKS AND AND BUILDING SETBACKS, WHICH WERE

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YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE COMMITTED TO IN THE CONTEXT OF BUXTON MEADOWS HERE. SIMILARLY, WE'VE COMMITTED TO A MOUND OF A HEIGHT OF 10 TO 12FT, LANDSCAPING ON THE MOUND THAT WILL REACH 18FT WITH 80% OPACITY WITHIN FIVE YEARS. THE AND THEN ADDITIONAL COMMITMENTS THAT WE HAVE MADE. THERE WERE CONCERNS EXPRESSED OVER NOISE IMPACTS OF DATA CENTERS. AND I'LL TAKE THAT AS NOISE IMPACTS OF ANYTHING. BUT IT WAS RAISED IN THE CONTEXT OF DATA CENTERS, WELL WATER USAGE AND ELECTRICITY DEMANDS, AND ALSO SOME FLOODING CONCERNS. THE NOISE ORDINANCE WE'VE MADE SPECIFIC PROVISION THAT THE NOISE ORDINANCE OF THE CITY WILL BE APPLIED AND THAT IT WILL, EVEN IF THE VIOLATION WERE TO OCCUR ON A PROPERTY OR THE IMPACT IS ON A PROPERTY OUTSIDE THE MUNICIPAL LIMITS. WE HAVE AGREED TO PROHIBIT WATER WELLS THROUGHOUT THE ZONING AREA, AND WE HAVE INCLUDED. THIS IS THE MOST RECENT EDITION. WE HAVE INCLUDED A PROHIBITION AGAINST BEHIND THE METER POWER GENERATION, OTHER THAN FOR EMERGENCY OR MAINTENANCE GENERATORS. WHAT THAT IS AND YOU THERE HAVE BEEN RECENT ARTICLES WHERE DUE TO CONSTRAINTS ON POWER DEMANDS OR PUBLIC ELECTRICITY DEMANDS. DATA CENTERS AND OTHER MOSTLY DATA CENTERS HAVE STARTED GENERATING POWER ON SITE WITH NATURAL GAS. AND IT'S NOT. IT'S BEHIND THE METER BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONNECTED TO THE POWER GRID. WE HAVE AGREED TO ELIMINATE THOSE. I WILL SAY JUST JUST FOR CLARITY, AND I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A BIT OF A CONCERN. THAT THE CONSTRAINTS THAT HAVE CAUSED OPERATORS TO GO AFTER THIS OR TO TO PURSUE THOSE SOURCES OF POWER HAVE, FOR THE MOST PART BEEN IN AREAS WHERE POWER HAS BEEN PRETTY SEVERELY CONSTRAINED, ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF THE AREAS SERVED BY AEP. THE SERVICE BY AES THAT SERVES THE THE WESTERN AND PORTIONS OF MARYSVILLE THAT THE TRANSMISSION PROVIDER IS NOT NEARLY AS CONSTRAINED AS IN OTHER LOCATIONS, BUT NONETHELESS, WE INCLUDED THAT. THEN FINALLY THERE WAS CONCERN REGARDING FLOODING. WE DID NOT INCLUDE ANYTHING SPECIFIC AS TO FLOODING. AND THIS IS ALONG JOLLEY ROAD, WHICH I KNOW HAS EXPERIENCED SOME FLOODING IN THE PAST. WE FELT THAT THE CITY'S EXISTING DRAINAGE REGULATIONS ALREADY COVER THIS, IN THAT AS MOST AS ANYWHERE ELSE, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED. NO DEVELOPER WOULD BE ALLOWED, BE IT RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, TO ALLOW WATER TO BE DISCHARGED OFF OF THEIR PROPERTY AT A RATE GREATER THAN HOW IT NATURALLY WOULD HAVE DISCHARGED. AND SO IT'S NOT AS IF JUST BECAUSE WATER THERE WILL BE MORE PERVIOUS OR I'M SORRY, IMPERVIOUS SURFACE ON A SITE. ONCE IT'S DEVELOPED, WATER WILL RUN OFF FASTER. WE'RE OBLIGATED TO MAINTAIN THAT AND DETENTION OR RETENTION PONDS AND RELEASE IT AT THE SAME RATE, NOT GREATER THAN THE SAME RATE THAT IT WOULD HAVE FLOWED OFF THE PROPERTY NATURALLY. I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT THE DETENTION PONDS WE CONTEMPLATE

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AND THESE PIECES, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY FIT TOGETHER I THINK ARE IMPORTANT. AND I THINK IT'LL BE HELPFUL NOW TO MOVE TO ZOOM IN ON THE ONE B BECAUSE THAT DIRECTLY OKAY. IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. IT'S NOT ONE OF THOSE SCREENS. OH HEAVENS. LET ME SEE IF I CAN. OH NO NO NO NO NO NO.

THAT'S TERRIBLE TECHNOLOGY. ACTUALLY IT'S PROBABLY BETTER JUST TO DO. GO AHEAD. YOU DO IT.

I HATE THIS LITTLE THING. I DIDN'T BRING MOUSE. ACTUALLY. CAN WE PULL UP THE MAP? YEAH, THE ONE THAT MIGHT BE EASIEST. SHOULD BE THE. THERE WE GO. OKAY. THIS IS THE ZONING THAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. THE DARK. YEAH. AND I'LL CONCEDE BETWEEN ONES AND B'S AND ALL THAT. IT GETS A LITTLE BIT COMPLEX. THE ENTIRETY OF THIS AREA IS. AREA B1. OKAY. THE DARK BLUE IS SUBAREA B, I'M SORRY. THE ENTIRE AREA IS IS AREA ONE, B THE DARK BLUE IS SUBAREA B, THAT IS IS WHERE WE HAVE SAID THAT DATA CENTERS WILL BE A CONDITIONAL USE. SUBAREA. B1, WHICH IS THE LIGHT BLUE, IS WHERE WE HAVE SAID DATA CENTERS WILL BE PROHIBITED. THEY WILL.

THEY'RE NOT A PERMITTED USE. OTHERWISE THE USES ARE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME. THE CROSSED OUT PERMITTED OR CONDITIONAL USES THAT WE LOOKED AT EARLIER THAT APPLIES ACROSS THE BOARD. THE PROHIBITION AGAINST BEHIND THE METER POWER IS ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THE

[01:20:05]

I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT FOR A COUPLE HOURS ON THURSDAY AND. IT'S VERY CLEAR, ESPECIALLY ON THE LOWER END OF THE BLUE, THE, THE THE SIX, THE SIX ACRE POND. YEAH. IT WAS VERY EVIDENT THAT A DAY OR TWO DAYS BEFORE THERE WAS A FAIRLY LARGE RAINSTORM, AND IT MUST HAVE ALSO FLOODED THE JOLLY ROAD. YEAH. SO AS FAR AS THE POND IS CONCERNED, I THINK EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE MAY NOT AGREE WITH IT, I STILL THINK THAT THAT COULD BE A BENEFIT FOR THE WATER PROBLEMS THAT ARISE. OBVIOUSLY, ENGINEERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK OUT TO SEE IF THE DISCHARGE IS GOING TO BE UNDER THE ROAD OR ON THE SOUTH SIDE OR ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT IT DISCHARGES DIRECTLY INTO MILL CREEK. YOU AND I ARE NOT ENGINEERS, BUT I DO I DO SEE PERSONALLY, I DID SEE THAT AS A BENEFIT. YEAH. THE AMOUNT AS YOU MAKE IT GO AROUND. YOU'VE BEEN VERY. WORKED VERY WELL WITH THE OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT ALREADY HAVE AN EXISTING POND, AND THEY EVEN USED THAT POND AS THEIR DRINKING WATER, THEIR FILTERS. AND YOU'VE BEEN VERY ACCOMMODATING. THE TWO THINGS THAT DID STILL STICK OUT. AND ONE OF THEM IS THAT THERE IS A.

A USE FOR A WHAT IS IT? THE COMMUNICATIONS TOWER. YEAH. YES. OKAY. COMMUNICATION TOWER CAN BE UP TO 200FT TALL. YES. THEY CAN BE. IT IS OR TALLER. OKAY. I BELIEVE ACTUALLY WE WE HAVE

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BUT AGAIN, IF IT IS 200FT TALL, YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT LAYING IT DOWN. IT HAS TO BE 210FT AWAY FROM A EXISTING DWELLING. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S THE RULE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR I, I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE CITY'S ORDINANCE IN THAT REGARD. I DO KNOW FROM WORKING WITH CELL TOWER COMPANIES AND OTHER LOCATIONS THAT THEY VERY MUCH THEY ARE VERY COGNIZANT OF THE FALL RADIUS OF A TOWER. SO, SO IN IN THIS PARTICULAR AND AGAIN, I, I HAVE THE BLUE SECTION. CAN YOU FORESEE AND I KNOW IT'S EARLY. CAN YOU FORESEE A A COMMUNICATION TOWER OR WHAT.

WHAT IS YOUR MR. BURBY. I DON'T KNOW I JUST DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, I DO KNOW THAT THE SITING OF THOSE TOWERS SOMETIMES GETS VERY, VERY SPECIFIC, ESPECIALLY AS THE TOWERS, THE NUMBER OF TOWERS MULTIPLY. THEY LOOK AT HOW IT INTERACTS WITH ADJACENT TOWERS AND THE ELEVATION AT.

THEY DON'T WANT TO BUILD THE TOWERS ANY TALLER THAN THEY HAVE TO. SO THEY LOOK AT ELEVATION AS WELL, THE GROUND ELEVATION THAT MAY DICTATE HOW TALL THE TOWER IS. BUT WHETHER THERE WOULD BE ONE IN THAT SUB AREA BE THE DARK BLUE. I DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT. OKAY. AND THEN THE LAST THING THAT WAS ALSO A CONCERN IS THAT SHOULD THERE BE A ELECTRIC. TRANSFORM LOCATIONS AND WE SEE IT CURRENTLY OVER AT INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY, WHEN YOU TOOK US TO ON A TOUR TO NEW ALBANY, THOSE THINGS TAKE UP ABOUT TEN, 12 ACRES. YEAH. WOULD THOSE BE ALLOWED IN THIS PARTICULAR SECTION TO TO FEED THE DATA CENTERS ON THE OTHER SIDE? OR, AND AGAIN, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THE AFTER THE METER, BUT THE QUESTION IS WHERE IS THE METER GOING TO BE. SO I BELIEVE THAT LIKE THE OTHER ZONING SUB ZONING AREAS IN MARYSVILLE EAST, THAT AN ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION WOULD FALL UNDER A IS IT CRITICAL UTILITY OR ESSENTIAL UTILITY? ACTUALLY, YEAH. WE HAVE A PRIVATE UTILITIES AND WE ALSO HAVE PUBLIC UTILITIES LISTED WITHIN THAT PUD. SO SO THOSE WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY ALLOWED IN ANYWHERE IN THE IN IN THE PUD. NOW I WILL POINT OUT THAT THERE'S AN EXISTING LOOKING RURAL ELECTRIC I BELIEVE IT'S LOOKING RURAL ELECTRIC LINE RUNNING NORTH SOUTH THROUGH THE FIRST AND SECOND ZONING OR ZONING AREAS OR ANNEXATION AREAS. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH LICKING RURAL TO TRY TO IDENTIFY POTENTIAL. SUBSTATION SITES THAT WOULD SERVE THE ENTIRETY OF MARYSVILLE EAST. LICKING RURAL IS CURRENTLY DEBATING WHETHER THEY NEED 1 OR 2, WHETHER IT'S FOR REDUNDANCY, IT'S BETTER TO HAVE TWO SMALL ONES OR ONE LARGER ONE. AND WHEN WE TALK SMALL OR LARGE, YOU'RE RIGHT. WE'RE TALKING 5 TO 10, MAYBE 12 ACRES. THAT'S THAT. AGAIN, I'M NOT AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER EITHER. SO THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.

BUT BUT TO DATE, NONE OF THE SITES WE HAVE SEEN ARE ON THE ZONING AREA BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

OKAY. AND IF THEY WERE, YOU WOULD NOT BUILD A DISTRIBUTION HUB ON THE EAST SIDE TO SERVE THE WEST SIDE. YOU'D PROBABLY. OH, THE WEST SIDE OF 33. NO. ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, I CAN'T SEE THAT THAT WOULDN'T MAKE THAT WOULD MAKE OPERATIONAL SENSE TO ME. THAT WOULD NOT MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT. NO. IF I MAY, THERE'S I WANT TO GO. THERE'S ONE THING I FORGOT ON THE. BUT DRAINAGE AND FLOODING ON JOLLY ROAD. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT MUCH OF THE LAND EAST OF JOLLY ROAD IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN. IF THE FLOODING OF JOLLY ROAD IS WATER FLOWING EAST TO WEST, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING OUR PONDS CAN ADDRESS. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? IF IT'S IF IT'S COMING FROM THE EAST, OUR PONDS AREN'T GOING TO INTERCEPT THAT BEFORE IT CROSSES THE ROAD. ITO SAY THT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION IT. THE OTHER THING, OF COURSE, AS

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THERE MAY BE SOME NUANCES BECAUSE KEEP IN MIND THAT THE BOUNDARIES OF THE DIFFERENT ZONING ORDINANCES MAY NOT BE THE BOUNDARIES OF DEVELOPMENT PARCELS. SO IT'S QUITE CONCEIVABLE THAT A DEVELOPMENT PARCEL COULD FALL INTO TWO OF THE ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS OR BE SUBJECT TO TWO OF THE OF THE ZONING ORDINANCES PART ON THE WEST SIDE, PART ON THE EAST SIDE. IN THAT SITUATION. TWO THINGS WE HAVE. SOME, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO

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AND I YOU HAD MADE A COMMENT EARLIER WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING THAT ROAD PLACEMENT, YOU KNOW, PRECISE ROAD PLACEMENT IS SOMETHING TO COME LATER. WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE ANY ASPECT OF THIS ZONING TO REVERSE THE TREND, OR THE EXPECTATION OF DECREASED TRAFFIC ON WATKINS? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD. SO I HAVE SPENT TIME ON WITH WITH NEW ALBANY COMPANY, WITH ROCKFORD AND WITH THE RESIDENTS OF OF OF NOT ONLY BUXTON MEADOWS BUT NOW JOLLY ROAD AS WELL. APPRECIATE MISS MILLER AND MISS DARCY. YEAH. AMBER.

SORRY. WAVING TO YOU TIME ON FRIDAY EVENING. I GOT TO SPEND THE THE FIRST PART OF MY, MY WEEKEND ACTUALLY DISCUSSING THIS VERY TOPIC WITH THEM. SO THERE WERE A LOT OF, I THINK, NEWS FLASH TYPE OF ITEMS OR TOPICS COMING UP FRIDAY, MID AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING THAT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IN THE IN THE COMING MOMENTS. BUT ONE, THE ONE THING I DO WANT TO SAY IS A THANK YOU TO THE JOLLY ROAD FOLKS, FOR VOICING YOUR CONCERNS AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SIT AND WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER. AND SIMILARLY, MISTER ROGGENKAMP, THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR PUTTING THE TIME AND EFFORT INTO TRYING TO FIND SOME GENERAL CONSENSUS IN TERMS OF WHAT THIS ZONING TEXT SHOULD, SHOULD LOOK LIKE FOR ME.

IF ANYBODY KNOWS ME OR HAS EVER HEARD ME OPEN MY MOUTH, THEY KNOW THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS SOMETHING THAT I PUT VERY HIGHLY AS A AS A PRIORITY. I THINK IT'S VERY CRITICAL FOR WE AS MARYSVILLE TO BUILD A RESILIENT COMMUNITY AND THE FOUNDATION OF A RESILIENT COMMUNITY. COMMUNITY IS THE ECONOMY IN WHICH WE INSTILL. RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, FOR SO MANY YEARS, WE'VE RELIED ON A HANDFUL OF ORGANIZATIONS FOR FOR ECONOMIC PROSPERITY. AND

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THOSE CONCERNS ARE ADDRESSED IN THIS REVISED TEXT. BUT I DO WANT TO POINT TO THE SIDE BY SIDE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE TRIED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY THAT WE'VE APPROACHED THIS ENTIRE KIND OF LANDSCAPE. RIGHT. WE HAD CONCERNS WITH RESIDENTS. AGAIN, A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL STAND HERE AND SAY, HEY, YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT ME BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T VOTE FOR YOU. WELL, THAT'S BS, BECAUSE TIME AND TIME AGAIN, I PERSONALLY AND MANY OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS COUNCIL HAVE PERSONALLY WALKED THE FIELDS AND MET WITH THE RESIDENTS, THOSE VERY RESIDENTS THAT DON'T VOTE FOR US. THE REALITY IS, IS WE'RE ALL PEOPLE, WE'RE ALL HUMAN BEINGS, AND EVERYBODY'S OPINION MATTERS, OKAY? AND EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. WE GET POSITIVE FEEDBACK, WE GET NEGATIVE FEEDBACK CONSISTENTLY. WHETHER YOU'RE WE'RE GOING FORWARD WITH A RESIDENTIAL, WHICH YOU'LL SEE SEPTEMBER 8TH, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE INDUSTRIAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WE WE HEAR POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE. SOMETIMES IT'S JUST NOT SO FORTHRIGHT FORTHCOMING.

BUT WE AS COUNCIL, WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE BROADER COMMUNITY AND WHAT'S BEST FOR MARYSVILLE AND WHERE WE AS COUNCIL SEE THIS COMMUNITY GOING, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE YOUR BEST INTEREST AS RESIDENTS AND NONRESIDENTS IN MIND. BUT WHAT I DO SEE WITHIN THIS TEXT IS CONSISTENCY PERMITTED USES. I KNOW THAT A MAJOR CONCERN, MR. ROGGENKAMP, WERE DATA CENTERS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION MANY, MANY MONTHS AGO ABOUT GET RID OF THEM. WE WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE GOT DIFFERENT PLANS FOR THE EAST SIDE. RIGHT.

WE WANT SCIENCE AND TECH AND AND INDUSTRY AND OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE DATA CENTERS DON'T NECESSARILY DO THAT. BUT WHAT I DO REALIZE IS THAT WE WE WE SHOULDN'T HANDCUFF YOU. SO HOW DO WE COME TO A CONSENSUS? WELL, WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS ELIMINATING IT THEM THE USE ON THE MAJORITY I SHOULDN'T SAY MAJORITY, BUT 60 ISH, 70 ISH PERCENT OF THAT LAND USE. AND THEN REALLY. PUTTING MORE STRINGENT. GUARDRAILS BY HAVING IT AS A CONDITIONAL USE. AND WE'RE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS TO DO SOME LEVEL OF FEASIBILITY STUDY ON UTILITIES AND YADA YADA TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, FIT FUNCTION AND THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH STRAIN ON, YOU KNOW, CITY UTILITIES, WATER CAPACITY, ELECTRIC CAPACITY, ALL OF THE ABOVE. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, ME AS A NEGOTIATOR MYSELF, I WORK IN THE BUSINESS WORLD PROCUREMENT.

SO THAT'S PART OF MY JOB. AND AND I ALWAYS TRY TO COME TO WHAT'S FAIR AND REASONABLE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WIN EVERYTHING, BUT YOU SHOULD GET YOU SHOULD MAXIMIZE YOUR OUTCOME. RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT THE RESIDENTS AND NICO HAVE COME TO SOME DEGREE OF REASONABLENESS WITHIN THE USES. IF YOU IF WE TALK ABOUT GROWING RESPONSIBLY, YOU CAN SEE IN CONDITIONAL USES, WE ELIMINATED THE MAJORITY OF THOSE CONDITIONAL USAGE BECAUSE WE HAVE INTENTION FOR THIS SITE. I KNOW THAT PEOPLE STAND UP HERE AND THEY SAY, WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE A PLAN. WE DO. IT MIGHT NOT JUST IT MIGHT NOT BE BROADLY UNDERSTOOD OR KNOWN, BUT THERE IS A PLAN. THAT'S WHY WE ELIMINATE SOME OF THESE USES. MAX BUILDING HEIGHT 5070. YOU LANDED AT 60. I APPRECIATE YOU SPLITTING THE DIFFERENCE, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT SEEMS LIKE SETBACKS MOUNDING CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD. SO I SO I DO APPRECIATE THE CHANGE POINTS.

NOW IT'S ON US THIS COUNCIL THIS EVENING TO TRULY HEAR THE RESIDENT OUTSIDE OF NO RIGHT BUT TO PROTECT THOSE RESIDENTS WITHIN THIS BOUNDARY FOR FROM YOU KNOW FROM THE CONCERNS THAT THEY'VE THAT THEY'VE BROUGHT FORWARD AND ADDRESS THEM THROUGH THESE THESE ZONING AMENDMENTS. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AND APPRECIATE THE, THE SUPPORT FROM NOT ONLY

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THE SECOND ONE NO WATER WELLS IN THE ENTIRETY OF THE AREA. DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE SECTION ONE B SHALL BE REQUIRED TO BE SERVED BY PUBLIC WATER LINES. NUMBER THREE. THE FOLLOWING USES WILL NO LONGER BE CONDITIONAL USES AND SHALL BE PROHIBITED AGAIN THROUGH THE ENTIRETY OF THE AREA. EXTENDED STAY HOTELS. GROUND PASSENGER DISPATCH FACILITIES WHICH I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS. RECYCLING CENTERS AND WAREHOUSING, PERSONAL STORAGE UNITS. AND THEN FOURTH IN THE ENTIRETY OF THE AREA BEHIND THE METER OR BTM ELECTRICAL GENERATION FACILITIES, EXCLUDING, I'M SORRY, BEHIND THE METER. BTM ELECTRICAL GENERATION FACILITIES WILL BE CONSIDERED A CONDITIONAL USE, EXCEPT WHERE THEY ARE REQUIRED FOR EMERGENCY OR MAINTENANCE GENERATORS, AND VIRTUALLY EVERY WAREHOUSE HAS A GENERATOR IN CASE THE POWER GOES OUT. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THAT IS INTENDED TO CAPTURE. AND THEN THE NEXT BOLD HIGHLIGHTED SECTION, WHICH IS A CHANGE THAT ONLY APPLIES TO SUBAREA B, THE DARK PORTION OF THE SUBAREA MAP. THIS IS WHERE DATA CENTERS ARE ARE A CONDITIONAL USE. IF ANY PORTION OF A DATA CENTER BUILDING FALLS WITHIN SUBAREA B, AND THEN IF WE GO TO THE NEXT PAGE. THIS GROUP ITEM SIX THROUGH EIGHT PROVIDE OR APPLY ONLY TO SUBAREA ONE B THE LIGHT BLUE AREA ON THE MAP. DID I GET THAT RIGHT? SUBAREA B1 MY APOLOGIES. I'M GOING TO BLAME BART. THIS APPLIES ONLY TO THE LIGHT BLUE AREA. THE PORTION OF THE ZONING AREA THAT ABUTS JOLLY ROAD AND IS EAST OF SUBAREA D, WHICH IS THE GREEN SPACE THAT THAT GOES DIAGONALLY THROUGH THE SITE. SO FIRST DATA CENTERS ARE DELETED FROM THE LIST OF PERMITTED AND CONDITIONAL USES. THE LIGHT BLUE AREA, THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT WILL NOT EXCEED 60FT.

AND THEN NUMBER EIGHT IS A. LAYS OUT THE SETBACKS THAT WE WENT THROUGH. PAVEMENT AND BUILDING SETBACKS FROM JOLLY ROAD WILL BE EXPANDED TO 200FT MINIMUM FOR PAVEMENT AND 400FT MINIMUM FOR A BUILDING. WITHIN THESE MINIMUM SETBACKS, THE DEVELOPER, THE DEVELOPER HAS THE RIGHT TO ADD LANDSCAPING MOUNDING, MULTI-PURPOSE TRAILS, DETENTION PONDS, AND OTHER STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS. AND SUBSECTION B, THEIR LANDSCAPING AND MOUNDING WILL BE ADDED PARALLEL TO JOLLY ROAD AND WILL CONSIST OF MOUNDING WITH A HEIGHT OF 10FT TO 12FT, EXCEPT WHERE NECESSARY, TO PROTECT EXISTING TREES OR DESIRABLE IN ORDER TO CREATE A NATURAL ESTHETIC. THEN TWO THE MOUNDED AREAS WILL BE PLANTED WITH NATURAL GRASS AND NATIVE TREES,

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THANK YOU. SO THIS EXHIBIT, THE PROPOSED ZONING TEXT CHANGES THAT WE JUST REVIEWED, WILL BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD AND BE PUT INTO THE MINUTES. AND SO THERE ARE EIGHT. PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THAT MR. ROGGENKAMP IS ASKING COUNCIL TO ADDRESS. I WOULD SUGGEST TO TO CREATE A THOROUGH RECORD TO TO ADDRESS THEM INDIVIDUALLY, AND YOU CAN REFERENCE THEM BY, BY THE WAY THEY APPEARED ON THE ON THE EXHIBIT. MR. PRESIDENT. MR. JUST SO I CAN CLARIFY ABOUT PROCEDURE, WE'RE MAKING AMENDMENTS TO PD TEXT THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY PLANNING COMMISSION. THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD BE VOTING ON HERE. AND THAT REQUIRES A SIX VOTE TO APPROVE THAT AMENDMENT. YES. SO EACH OF THESE AMENDMENTS, IF AMENDMENTS WERE TO NOT BE PASSED, BUT THE OVERALL ZONING WOULD BE PASSED. IT WOULD BE PASSED WITHOUT THE AMENDMENTS, WITHOUT THE BENEFITS THAT ARE PROPOSED HERE TONIGHT. SO I WOULD JUST ASK COUNCIL TO BE MINDFUL THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY YOU MIGHT VOTE NO ON AN AMENDMENT. BUT THE OVERALL ZONING IS PASSED, IN WHICH CASE YOU'RE DENYING RESIDENTS WHAT THEY HAD ASKED FOR. ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND TO. AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE TOO, THAT SOME RESIDENTS OBVIOUSLY ARE ASKING FOR NO. BUT I WOULD SAY IS MY MY REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION OF OTHERS IS THAT BE MINDFUL OF OF THE PROCEDURE HERE AND WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON. AND IF IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE OVERALL ZONING, IT'S NOT A REASON TO VOTE DOWN AN AMENDMENT. YOU CAN CONSIDER THAT FULLY AND BE MINDFUL OF THE PROCESS. THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO SAY REALLY QUICKLY, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE MAYBE AFTER THIS VOTE, THE ROOM WILL EMPTY. MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CONDITIONAL USES. SO I KNOW THERE'S A GENTLEMAN THAT TALKED ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS UPDATED IN 2018. WHEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS SET UP.

THERE WAS ENTITIES THAT GOT INVOLVED AND COUNCIL CITY HIRED SOMEONE TO HELP US UPDATE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND THEN FACEBOOK WAS USED TO SAY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE LIKE DUBLIN.

AND THERE WAS. SO THE CITY CAME TOGETHER WITH A GROUP OF RESIDENTS AND SAID, WELL, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROTECTED. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU GOT WAREHOUSING AND PERSONAL MINI STORAGE. YOU GOT SHEETS WHERE SHEETS IS BUILT NOW, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED WAS A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT CITY SAID, WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE OUT OF CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS. THE THE BOARD CAME TOGETHER AND MADE THESE USES CONDITIONAL.

THE REASON WHY THEY WERE MADE CONDITIONAL IS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THE LAND DIDN'T WANT TO WAIT AND SIT ON IT FOR ANOTHER BETTER USER TO BUY THE LAND, IT'S EASIER TO SELL YOUR PROPERTY FOR MINI STORAGE OR WAREHOUSE FACILITY OR A GAS STATION THAN IT IS TO BUILD SOMETHING BETTER. BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY, BETTER OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL OF US. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL, IN MY OPINION, IT WAS A LOT BETTER PLAN THAN WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS. SO WHEN YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT REMOVING SOME THINGS, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CHANGING THE CODE CHANGE COMPREHENSIVE TO MAKE IT BETTER, I AGREE, AND I THINK THIS COUNCIL AGREES MORE IN LINE NOW THAT WE NEED TO UP THE BAR AND CHANGE THINGS THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED. SO I THINK DURING OUR TIME YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE AND MORE OF THESE TYPES OF ISSUES BEING ELIMINATED OUT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OUT OF THE ZONING TEXT, SO RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE TO COME HERE AND TRY TO TRY TO ALWAYS HAVE TO PROTECT THEIR PROPERTY VALUES BECAUSE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY GOING TO BE IN THE TEXT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

THERE'S HISTORY TO HOW THINGS HAPPEN. AND SOMETIMES THIS IS THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY I CAN MAKE THAT HISTORY KNOWN. SO WITH THAT, SO WE WANT TO. MR. AS ALREADY STATED, WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO WE'RE GOING TO BREAK THEM UP, ALL EIGHT OF THEM ONE ONE BY ONE. SO I WOULD GO AHEAD.

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SO I WAS JUST GOING TO, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THE FIRST AMENDMENT REGARDING NOISE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES. IS THERE A MOTION? I HAVE A JUST AN OKAY AN ASK IF THERE'S A CONCERN WITH A WITH A WITH THE VERBIAGE OF ANY OF THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, ARE WE ALLOWED TO ADDRESS THEM OR SHOULD WE ADDRESS THEM NOW TO ADDRESS NOW? OKAY I HAVE A PROBLEM. I'M GOING TO ADDRESS IT NOW. SO MY PROBLEM WAS WHEN I DID MEET WITH. THE THE I'LL CALL IT THE DEVELOPER. AND WE DISCUSSED EARLIER THIS WEEK. MAKING SURE THAT AND I'M SORRY THAT I'M DOING THIS RIGHT NOW, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A ROBUST. ROBUST LANGUAGE. WE HAD ROBUST LANGUAGE WITHIN OUR TEXT AS IT PERTAINED TO THE CONDITIONAL USE OF DATA CENTERS, AND ALSO WHAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN EVALUATING A DATA CENTER AS A CONDITIONAL USE. NOW, WHEN WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DISCUSSED IT, THERE WAS SOME DEGREE OF EVALUATION POINT FROM PLANNING COMMISSION. COMMISSION. TO DETERMINE WHETHER CITY UTILITIES AND RESOURCES CAN REASONABLY SUPPORT THE PROPOSED DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT. AND IT APPEARS NOW THAT I'M DOING A SIDE BY SIDE. THAT THAT REQUIREMENT HAS BEEN SINCE ELIMINATED. SO I NEED YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY VERSIONS OF THIS TEXT, I KNOW IT, I'VE SEEN FOR THIS WEEK THAT LANGUAGE WAS WE PUT THAT IN AND IT SHOULD SAY BASICALLY THAT WITH WITH THE DATA CENTERS THAT FALL WITHIN A CONDITIONAL USE AREA, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IN DETERMINING WHETHER A CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION SHOULD BE GRANTED, HAS TO MAKE AN AFFIRMATIVE FINDING THAT THE CITY HAS SUFFICIENT UTILITIES TO PROVIDE FOR THE USE. OKAY, SO THAT LANGUAGE WE WILL AND LET THE RECORD REFLECT HERE THAT THAT IS PART OF NUMBER FIVE. OKAY. THAT LANGUAGE WILL BE ADDED TO NUMBER FIVE AND WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE TEXT.

THANK YOU. MR. SO I HAVE A QUESTION IN THAT REGARDS TO. SO THAT'S A CONDITION, BUT IS THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS COMPREHENSIVELY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE THERE. WE HAVE A PROFESSIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION THAT MIGHT TAKE VARIOUS FACTORS INTO CONSIDERATION. SO I DON'T WANT TO PREEMPTIVELY, YOU KNOW, LIMIT THAT EVALUATION. I THINK IT'S SO I YOU KNOW, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT LIMITING OUR BOARD IN THERE DECISION MAKING PROCESS. YEAH. I DON'T THINK THAT WE WILL BE AND THERE THAT THAT CONSIDERATION OR THAT FACTOR HAS TO BE EVALUATED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OTHER PRESCRIBED FACTORS THAT ARE CONTEMPLATED. SO SO WHEN PLANNING COMMISSION LOOKS AT A CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION, THEY HAVE A LIST OF FACTORS THAT THEY CONSIDER. AND THIS IS GOING TO BE IDENTIFIED AS A PARTICULAR SPECIAL FACTOR WHEN IT COMES TO DATA CENTERS IN THAT PARTICULAR ZONED AREA. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND ANYBODY ELSE. SO I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THE FIRST AMENDMENT REGARDING NOISE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH BY THE PROPOSED ZONING TEXT CHANGES. MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE AMENDMENT TO THE LEGISLATION AS STATED IN ITEM NUMBER ONE. OKAY.

ROLL CALL, MR. BURGER. YES, MR. HUNTER? YES, MISS KRAMER? YES. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLF. YES.

MR. BURBY. YES. SIX. YES. SECOND AMENDMENT, WHICH WOULD BE NO. WELLS SHOULD BE

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MR. BURR YES. MR. BURGER? YES. SIX. YES. THIRD AMENDMENT, WHICH IS THE FOLLOWING USES SHALL NOT NO LONGER BE CONDITIONAL USES AND SHALL BE PROHIBITED. PROHIBITED.

EXTENDED STAY HOTEL GROUND PASSENGER DISPATCH FACILITIES, RECYCLING CENTERS, WAREHOUSING AND PERSONAL. MANY. PERSONAL STORAGE. MANY. OH, SORRY. MR. PRESIDENT, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE LEGISLATION AS STATED IN NUMBER THREE. ROLL CALL. MISS KRAMER. YES. MR. BORDNER? YES. MR. WOLF. YES. MR. MURPHY. YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER? YES. SIX. YES.

FOURTH AMENDMENT. THE FOLLOWING USES SHALL BE CONSIDERED IN A CONDITIONAL USE BEHIND THE METER. BTM ELECTRICAL GENERATION FACILITIES, INCLUDING EMERGENCY AND MAINTENANCE GENERATORS, EXCLUDING I. MY APOLOGIES. MISS MR. IF I MIGHT JUST ADD ONE CLARIFICATION POINT IF THAT'S OKAY OR NO. SURE. WITHIN THIS NUMBER FOUR BULLET POINT THAT THE GENERATORS WOULD STILL HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE NOISE ORDINANCE WITHIN BULLET NUMBER ONE.

CORRECT. WITHIN. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE EVEN IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY USE, IT WOULD STILL HAVE TO ADHERE TO BULLET NUMBER ONE. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE LEGISLATION AS STATED IN NUMBER FOUR. ROLL CALL, MR. BORDNER. YES, MR. WOLF. YES. MR. MURPHY? YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER. YES. MISS KRAMER? YES. SIX. YES. DO YOU WANT ME TO READ THEM ALL OR DO I NEED. I'M JUST NO FREE. FEEL FREE. JUST READ IT ALL.

OKAY. THE FOLLOWING USES SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS A CONDITIONAL USE DATA CENTERS. IF ANY PORTION OF THE DATA CENTER FALLING BUILDING FALLS WITHIN SECTION ONE B EXHIBIT ONE DARK BLUE AREA. PROPOSED ZONING TEXT CHANGES. ANNEXATION OF ZONING MEASURES OR SECTION B, SECTION ONE B AUGUST 25TH, 2025. NO. OKAY, LET ME JUST CLARIFY THAT THAT WAS THE TITLE OF THE SECOND TITLE THAT WAS CARRIED OVER THE SECOND. OH, SO THE AMENDMENT IN THIS SO ONE B IS THE IS THE ENTIRETY OF ZONING DISTRICT THAT'S BEING AMENDED. IT'S ON THE TABLE FOR COUNCIL.

AND THIS CHANGE ONLY APPLIES TO SUBAREA B, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE DARK AREA TO THE WEST. AND IT'S BASICALLY SAYING THAT DATA CENTERS WILL BE CONSIDERED A CONDITIONAL USE. AND AND IF ANY PORTION OF A DATA CENTER BUILDING FALLS WITHIN SECTION ONE B. SO. SO BASICALLY WHAT THAT'S SAYING IS IF IT DOES FALL, IF IT FALLS IN A STRADDLES TWO SECTIONS, IT'S GOING TO BE CONDITIONAL USE. BUT WE ALSO ADDED THAT LANGUAGE THAT WE JUST PUT ON THE RECORD A LITTLE WHILE AGO ABOUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION NEEDING TO MAKE AN AFFIRMATIVE FINDING THAT WE THAT THE CITY HAS SUFFICIENT UTILITIES TO PROVIDE FOR THE USE. WHEN WOULD THAT LANGUAGE BE ADDED? IS THAT IN THE MOMENT OR DO WE. WELL, IT'S IT'S BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY IT'S JUST WORDS ON THE RECORD BUT IT'S NOT ON THE PAPER. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE MINUTES. AND COUNCIL, IF COUNCIL MAKES THE AMENDMENTS WITH THAT ADDED LANGUAGE OKAY. OH SORRY. GO ON ON THIS ONE. CAN WE JUST CAN YOU GO TO THE EXHIBIT FOR SECTION ONE B BECAUSE BEFORE YOU DO IT I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN THIS. IT'S IT'S THE COLORFUL ONE. HERE WE GO. SO REALLY WHAT THIS IS TARGETING IS THE DARK BLUE AREA OKAY. AND THE REASON THAT WE'RE MAKING THIS A CONDITIONAL USE THERE IS THIS AREA HERE WHICH IS SECTION ONE AND THIS AREA HERE WHICH IS SECTION TWO CAN HAVE A 10% USE. BUT BECAUSE IT COULD GO OVER THIS PROPERTY, WE ARE SAYING THAT ANYTHING IN HERE IF THE DATA CENTER IS RIGHT HERE ON

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ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO SIT WITHIN HERE. IT WOULD BE CONDITIONAL USE. IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE ADDITIONAL SCRUTINY AS OPPOSED TO EVERYTHING WHERE WE'VE ELIMINATED THE DATA CENTER. AND WHEN YOU TAKE THE LIGHT AND THE DEBRIS THAT'S COLLECTED 200 ACRES OUT OF THIS 309 IS DATA CENTERS CANNOT GO. SO IT IT HELPS TO READ THAT LOOK AT THAT AT THE SAME TIME.

THAT'S OKAY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS A CLARIFICATION. MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE LEGISLATION WITH THE AMENDMENT STATED IN BULLET POINT FIVE, ALONG WITH WHAT HAD BEEN STATED TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE RECORD. ROLL CALL. MR. WOLFF.

YES. MR. KIRBY? YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MISS KRAMER. YES. MR. BODNER. YES.

SIX. YES. OKAY. NUMBER SIX DATA CENTERS WILL BE DELETED FROM THE LIST OF THE PERMITTED AND CONDITIONAL USES. EXHIBIT ONE. WAIT. JUST ONE SECOND. YES. WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT. OKAY. MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD MOVE. WE GO WITH THE AMENDMENT STATED IN NUMBER SIX. THANK YOU FOR NOT MAKING ME REPEAT MYSELF. ROLL CALL, MR. YES. MR. BURGER? YES. MR. HUNTER? YES. MISS. KRAMER? YES. MR. YES. MR. WOLFF. YES. SIX. YES. NUMBER SEVEN. MAX, MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT WILL NOT EXCEED 60FT. SO AS STATED, AS STATED ON THE MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE LEGISLATION AS STATED IN NUMBER SEVEN. ROLL CALL, MR. BURGER. YES, MR. HUNTER? YES. MISS KRAMER? YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. WOLFF. YES. MR. BURBY. YES. SIX. YES. OKAY. NOW, NUMBER EIGHT TO CHAPTER BOOKS. SO PAVEMENT AND BUILDING SETBACKS FROM JOLLY ROAD WILL BE EXTENDED TO 200FT MINIMUM FOR PAVEMENT OF 400FT MINIMUM FOR THE BUILDING. A WITHIN THESE MINIMUM SETBACKS, THE DEVELOPER HAS THE RIGHT TO ADD LANDSCAPING, MOUNDING, MULTI-USE TRAILS, DETENTION PONDS AND OTHER STORM WATER IMPROVEMENTS. B LANDSCAPING AND MOUNTAIN MOUNDING WILL BE ADDED PARALLEL TO JOLLY ROAD AND WILL CONSIST OF I MOUNDING WITH THE HEIGHT OF 12 10FT TO 12FT, EXCEPT WHERE NECESSARY, TO PROTECT EXISTING TREES AND DESIRABLE IN ORDER TO CREATE NATURAL ESTHETICS. TWO I. THE MOUNDED AREA WILL BE PLANTED WITH NATURAL GRASSES, NATIVE TREES, MIXTURE OF DECIDUOUS AND EVERGREEN SHRUBS AND OR BUSHES SUCH AS. THERE IS SCREENING TO A MINIMUM CAPACITY OF 80FT, WITH THE HEIGHT INCLUDING THE MOUND AND PLANTINGS OF 18FT WITHIN FIVE YEARS. AFTER PLANTING. INSTALLATION. SEE THE ATTACHED JOLLY ROAD BUFFER. EXHIBIT TWO WILL BE ADDED TO THE DEVELOPMENT TAX. AS WAS STATED IN THE AMENDMENT. IS THERE A MOTION? MR. PRESIDENT, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO.

OKAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS TO AMEND THE LEGISLATION WITH POINT STATED. IT'S NUMBER EIGHT, CORRECT? YEAH. NUMBER EIGHT TEXT ACCORDING TO BULLET POINT NUMBER EIGHT. THANK YOU.

ROLL CALL, MR. HUNTER. YES. MISS KRAMER? YES. MR. BORDNER. YES, MR. WOLFE? YES. MR. BURBY.

YES, MR. BURGER? YES. SIX. YES. LEGISLATION AS AMENDED, IS NOW BACK FOR SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING. BUT BEFORE WE GET TO RESIDENTS COMMENTS, I KNOW THERE'S SOME READING OF LETTERS, BUT DOES ADMINISTRATION HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY BEFORE? NOTHING FURTHER. OKAY, SO MISS BROCK, WOULD YOU DO THE HONOR OF READING? THE LETTERS? YEAH, GIVE THE NAMES. OKAY. THE FIRST ONE IS FROM AMBER DARST, AND THIS WAS RECEIVED TODAY AT 11:01 A.M. BY EMAIL. GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL. I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT BEFORE

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HAVING SAID ALL THIS, OUR COMMUNITY MET AGAIN THIS WEEKEND AND WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL VOTE NO ON ANNEXATION OF SECTION ONE B THIS EVENING.

WE WOULD LIKE THE GROWTH TO STOP JUST UNTIL THE CITY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLETE THE VISIONING PROCESS AND GAIN MORE COMMUNITY INPUT ABOUT THE LONG TERM GROWTH OF OUR CITY. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR MARYSVILLE. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL THIS EVENING.

THIS NEXT LETTER IS FROM MARY ANN HAYNES. ALSO RECEIVED TODAY AT 12:27 P.M. BY EMAIL. DEAR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, GOOD MORNING. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU TONIGHT AT THE COUNCIL MEETING. THIS EMAIL IS TO REITERATE WHAT I HAVE ALREADY ASKED IN THE PAST THAT YOU WILL VOTE NO ON THE ANNEXATION OF MARYSVILLE EAST SECTION B, I BELIEVE IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY TO SLOW DOWN THE EXPANSION OF THE CITY UNTIL THE PLANNING PROCESS HAS BEEN COMPLETED, ALLOWING FOR THE CITIZENS AND SURROUNDING RESIDENTS A VOICE IN WHAT OUR CITY WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE. AFTER ALL, WHOSE VISION IS IT ANYWAY? MARYSVILLE CITIZENS SLASH COMMUNITY OR THAT OF A SINGLE COMPANY? MANY OF US NEIGHBORS ARE VERY CONCERNED WITH HOW THIS INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX WILL AFFECT OUR PROPERTY VALUES, AS WELL AS OUR WAY OF LIFE. CONSIDERING MOST OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM NACO IS THAT THERE WILL BE DATA CENTERS AS WELL AS UNSPECIFIED INDUSTRIES, MOVING INTO CLOSE PROXIMITY TO US. ANY KIND OF LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT OF LAND CAN HAVE INDUSTRIES. I'M SORRY.

IT CAN HAVE ADVERSE EFFECTS ON OUR WATER SUPPLY WITH THE AIR WE BREATHE, AS WELL AS THE LIGHTS, NOISE LEVELS. I BELIEVE ADVERSE EFFECTS ON OUR WATER SUPPLY, THE AIR WE BREATHE AND SMELL, AS WELL AS LIGHTS AND NOISE LEVELS. I BELIEVE THESE ARE ALL VALID CONCERNS, AND THE COUNCIL SLASH CITY PLANNERS SHOULD BE DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THESE CONCERNS ARE NEGATED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. MOST SINCERELY, MARY ANN HAYNES. THIS IS FROM LYNN MILLER MERCY TODAY. 12:28 P.M. GOOD AFTERNOON, ALL. WITH THE COUNCIL'S VOTE TONIGHT, I WANTED TO STEP BACK AND THANK THE COUNCIL AND NACO FOR TAKING THE TIME AND MAKING THE EFFORT TO TRY TO ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS REGARDING THE ANNEXATION OF MARYSVILLE EAST B ONE. MANY OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE HAVE VOICED THEIR CONCERN WITH, AND DISAPPROVAL OF, THE RAPID GROWTH THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS BY OUR LARGE MAJORITY. OUR COMMUNITY IN DOVER TOWNSHIP FEELS THIS WAY AS WELL, AND WE ARE SEEKING A NO VOTE THIS EVENING, PAUSING THE ANNEXATION UNTIL A PROPER RESEARCH CAN BE DONE ON THE EFFECTS THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCES, AMONG OTHER ISSUES. YOUR DECISIONS AS LEADERS OF THE CITY ARE IMPORTANT ONES, TO SAY THE LEAST, AND NOT EASY. I DON'T ENVY YOUR TASK. BEST REGARDS, LYNN MILLER. THIS IS FROM KRISTA MILLER TODAY AT 4:03 P.M. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION TO THE 1D ANNEXATION QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS. I'M A MARYSVILLE CITY RESIDENT ON CATALPA COURT IN WARD THREE AND TRUSTEE FOR MY PARENTS TRUST FOR THE PROPERTY IN DOVER TOWNSHIP. I'M ASKING YOU TO VOTE NO ON THE PROPOSED ONE B ANNEXATION UNTIL AFTER THE CITY'S VISION. PLANNING TO DETERMINE THE CITIZENS INPUT FOR GROWTH, BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND BUSINESS. AS A CITY RESIDENT, I AM HIGHLY CONCERNED WITH THE CITY'S WATER QUALITY, QUANTITY, AND THE CITY WATER'S USE IMPACTS TO ADJACENT NEIGHBORS LIVING IN AND CLOSE TO THE CITY, AND SHARING OF UNDERGROUND, UNDERGROUND AQUIFERS. WATER IS A FINITE RESOURCE. THERE ARE NO DETAILS PROVIDED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THE ANNEXATIONS. WHAT DATA IS THE CITY USING TO DETERMINE IF THERE IS A. IF THERE IS SUFFICIENT WATER FOR THE NEEDS OF NEWLY ANNEXED LAND, DEVELOPMENT FOR THE VOTE.

SHOULD MORE DETAILS BE REQUIRED FROM THE DEVELOPER FOR THE CITY TO DETERMINE IF THEY CAN SUPPORT AND PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE NEWLY ANNEXED LAND? WHAT DATA HAS THE CITY COLLECTED TO CONFIRM THE AMOUNT OF WATER REQUIRED TO MEET THE ACTUAL NEEDS OF NEW RESIDENTS? IN TERMS WHAT IS THE ACTUAL WATER USAGE, NOT PROJECTED WATER USAGE? FOR ALL THE RECENT

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PROPERTY HAS A 50 FOOT WATER WHEEL WITH A DECREASED WATER DROP, THE WELL PROPERTY RESULTING IN A NEED TO DRILL A NEW WATER WELL AT AN ESTIMATED COST OF 15 TO $20,000. HOW MANY SENIOR CITIZENS MAY BE UP TO 20,000IN THE BUDGET TO GET WATER FROM A DIFFERENT WELL? I'M COMFORTABLE. CONFIDENT WATER USE PROJECTIONS ARE ACCURATE AND SUFFICIENT WATER.

IT WAS REPORTED LAST YEAR THAT THE 40 FOOT MARYSVILLE RESERVOIR WERE DROPPED 24FT DUE TO A DROUGHT YEAR. WHAT IF WE HAVE TWO DROUGHT YEARS IN A ROW? WILL THERE BE A SIGNIFICANT WATER SHORTAGE IN MARYSVILLE FOR TWO RAPID AND TOO MUCH GROWTH? HOW MANY RESIDENTS AND SENIOR CITIZENS, CITIZENS? WELLS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. PLEASE VOTE NO ON THE ANNEXATION TONIGHT. RESPECTFULLY, KRISTA MILLER. AND THIS WAS RECEIVED FROM CHAI TARA HENRY. IS THAT RIGHT? PM CITY COUNCIL I LIVE IN PEACE AND I HAVE BEEN ATTENDING THE COUNCIL MEETING FOR A FEW MONTHS. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TAKING MY NAME ABOUT THE ANNEXATION AND ZONING OF SECTION ONE B I THINK IT IS A GOOD VIEW OF. TO REMIND YOU THAT THIS INTERSECTION IS ZONED FOR BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS, INCLUDING OUR COMMUNITY. WE WILL FACE ANY NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES TO THE JOB IS DONE.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT BUSINESSES OR COMMUNITY TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND PROBLEMS THEY WILL BRING.

MY NEIGHBORS HAVE ALREADY NOTIFIED YOU HOW IT WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY DID EXTENSIVE RESEARCH AND PRESENTED YOU THE FACTS THAT EVEN THOUGH CHANGES TO THE.

BEST, THERE ARE STILL ISSUES THAT STILL ISSUES NOT BEING ADDRESSED. TO CITY THAT WANT TO DO THIS. THANK YOU. FIX A CAR. ON THE SENSATION. CENTER. CITY. NO. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MAKE A DECISION, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE FOLLOWS ONE OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S PRINCIPLES. THE GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE THEY. AND THIS NEXT LETTER IS. WAS RECEIVED AND IT WAS REINFORCED TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN THE BEHAVIOR. MENTAL HEALTH. SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT. CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO. ADVANCE THIS LIMITED TO. SYSTEMS LIKE I USED TO. AS THE SECOND LARGEST EMPLOYER. IS ONE. TWO, SIX. SO THIS. IS. INTERESTING. THE CREATION OF. STIMULATE. NEW BUSINESSES. THE PARK WILL GENERATE INCREASING. ECONOMY ENHANCE. BUSINESS IN ADDITION TO EXISTING. INDUSTRY SERVICES. FASTEST. WILL EXPLORE POTENTIAL COLLABORATIONS WITH INCOMING COMPANIES, PARTICULARLY THOSE IN BIOTECHNOLOGY, LOGISTICS OR MANUFACTURING, WHICH MAY.

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HEARING NONE. COUNCIL. OKAY. HEARING NONE. YOU OKAY? OKAY. OH YEAH. YEAH, MAYBE MAYBE I MAYBE I WILL. OKAY. YOU SAY SOMETHING. I WASN'T GOING TO DO IT, BUT BRUCE PIQUED MY INTEREST. YEAH. WHEN HE SAID 74 COUNTIES WILL BE SMALLER THAN WHAT THEY ARE IN TEN YEARS.

OKAY. AND YOU WANTED TO KNOW WHY? YEAH. NOW YOU GET ON MY TURF. BECAUSE THAT'S THE THING THAT I LIVE FOR. SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. YEAH. AND LOOKING AT THE GRADUATING CLASS OF THIS YEAR, WE'RE SLIGHTLY OVER 400 STUDENTS, OKAY. AND WE'VE HAD ROOMS FULL OF PEOPLE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT NEW DEVELOPMENTS WE'VE HAD NOW PROBABLY AN ADDITIONAL 1000 DWELLINGS, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO EVERYTHING SHOULD DRIVE TOWARDS GREATER POPULATION. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT. OKAY. SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT 12 YEARS AGO IN OHIO, THERE WERE 140,000 BIRTHS, 140,000. IN 2024, THAT NUMBER HAD BEEN REDUCED TO 126,000, 10% LESS BIRTHS IN THE STATE OF OHIO OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS. SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH, WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT'S HAPPENING? YEAH, THAT'S ONE THING YOU NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. IF YOUR POPULATION IS REDUCING, THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU CANNOT STAY THE WAY THAT YOU ARE. AND FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER, PEOPLE DO SEEM TO GRAVITATE TO CENTRAL OHIO. YEAH. THE GRADUATING CLASS LAST YEAR IN MARYSVILLE WAS SLIGHTLY OVER 400. OKAY.

THAT WAS THE GRADUATING CLASS AFTER 12 YEARS. KINDERGARTEN THIS YEAR STARTS OUT WITH 429 CHILDREN. AND YOU'RE TALKING 12 YEARS LATER. YEAH, 425 29 THAT ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED IN KINDERGARTEN. THE GRADUATION CLASS WAS ALMOST SIMILAR TO IT. SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT PERCEPTION AND REALITY. YEAH. AND I KNOW ALL OF THIS IS EXTREMELY SCARY, BUT WE'VE SEEN THE SAME SCARY. WHEN WE BUILT AN APPROVED HOUSING, WE'VE SEEN THE SAME THING TODAY. IT'S IT'S VERY SCARY. BUT WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT WE'RE LOOKING 20 YEARS IN THE FUTURE. WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT TOMORROW. YEAH. WE WE WE TODAY APPROVED THE SALE OF THE AMAZON. AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE AMAZON ACCOUNT AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THAT FOR FIVE YEARS. IT'S GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER FIVE, SIX YEARS BEFORE THAT IS GOING TO BE A REALITY. THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY THAT WE THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US AND ALL OF THAT WHOLE AREA. YOU'RE LOOKING AT MARYSVILLE 20 YEARS OUT, AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE ONE OF THOSE 74 COUNTIES. AND I THINK THAT WITH THIS PASSING, YEAH, WE CAN STAY AHEAD OF EVERYBODY ELSE BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THE PIECES IN PLACE TO ALLOW US TO GROW AND GROW WITH HOUSING AND GROW WITH THE BUSINESSES. OTHERWISE WE ARE GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE 20 OR 74. SO MAYBE THAT'S YOUR ANSWER THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR. BUT ANYWAY, IT IT'S IT'S HAPPENING AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME BEFORE IT ALL COMES TO FRUITION. THOSE WERE MY COMMENTS. WHETHER WHETHER WE LOVE IT OR HATE IT, THE REALITY IS WE'RE CLOSE TO COLUMBUS. COLUMBUS IS THE ONLY CITY

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CLEVELAND'S BEAUTIFUL. YOU GOT SOME NICE, BEAUTIFUL OLD HOMES. NICE, BEAUTIFUL OLD ARCHITECTURE. BUT COLUMBUS IS THE ONLY CITY GROWING. WE ARE GETTING THE EFFECTS OF THE COLUMBUS SUCCESS. I KNOW, AND I READ WHAT PEOPLE SAY ON FACEBOOK ABOUT CRIME AND ALL THOSE THINGS. BUT I'M TELLING YOU, WHAT MAKES MARYSVILLE UNIQUE IS OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM AND OUR HOUSING. AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. BUT IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IS GOING TO BE SCARY BECAUSE THERE'S TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THE FEDERAL LEVEL IS DEFUNDING EDUCATION. YOU KNOW, CITIES, YOU AT HOME HAVE TO PREPARE YOUR BUDGETS FOR FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. SCHOOLS CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE. THEY'RE TELLING THEM THAT IF YOU HAVE EXTRA MONEY, YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT BACK. NOW, I KNOW EVERYONE'S WORRIED ABOUT THEIR PROPERTY VALUES, SAME WAY WE ARE HERE, NO MATTER WHAT AGE INCOME BRACKET YOU ARE, IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY HOUSE IS WORTH $1 MILLION NOW. EVEN IF IT'S A REFRIGERATOR BOX, IT'S STILL WORTH $1 MILLION. I'M ABOUT TO PUT MY FISHER PRICE HOUSE OUT THERE, BUT ALL I'M SAYING IS, WHAT MAKES COMMUNITIES SUCCESSFUL IS THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

THAT'S WHAT PREVENTS YOUR COMMUNITY FROM FALLING INTO DISARRAY. AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, GO TO THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE, LOOK AT THEIR SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND GO TO THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE TERRIBLE QUALITY OF LIFE AND LOOK AT THEIR SCHOOL DISTRICTS. THAT IS WHAT MAKES A GOOD COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT HOW MANY APARTMENTS YOU BUILD, IT'S NOT HOW MANY FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS YOU CRAM IN. IT'S NOT THE WALMART. IT'S NOT ANY OF THAT. IT'S YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO, YOU KNOW, TO EVERYONE'S POINT HERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS IS DOING IS ADDING JOBS. YOU KNOW, LIKE THE COMMENT WAS MADE. IT'S ADDING JOBS BUT NOT PEOPLE BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN WORK HERE BUT NOT LIVE HERE. AND WE CAN STILL COLLECT THAT INCOME. HOPEFULLY, UNTIL SOMEBODY WANTS TO CREATE A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO GET RID OF INCOME TAX NEXT. AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AS A SOCIETY TO SURVIVE. BUT THOSE ARE MY THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS TO ADD THAT WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT WE'RE NOT LIVING IN A DECLINING AREA WHERE YOU ARE SEEING HIGH CRIME AND HIGH POVERTY LEVELS AND ALL THESE OTHER ISSUES. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT OUT THERE, BUT COMPARED TO OTHER COMMUNITIES IN OHIO, WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE. SO. SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO WAIVE THIRD READING.

THERE'S NOT NO ONE'S MADE THE MOTION. CAN I JUST OKAY. WELL I DON'T THINK YEAH. SO ONCE ONCE YOUR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARINGS, THEN YOU ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO WAIVE THE THIRD READING. AND THE REASON THE REASON WHY. THE COUNCIL MAY WANT TO WAIVE THIRD READING IN THIS CASE IS BECAUSE THIS IS A ZONING AMENDMENT. AND BY RULE, WE COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION ON PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION WITHIN 120 DAYS OF THE PUBLISHED PUBLIC HEARING, AND THAT THAT DATE IS SEPTEMBER 7TH. SO COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE ZONING RECOMMENDATION THAT'S COME FROM PLANNING COMMISSION BY SEPTEMBER 7TH. NEXT MEETING IS AFTER SEPTEMBER 7TH. SO IF WE WAIVE THE THIRD READING, THE DECISION BE MADE TONIGHT OR YOU WOULD NEED TO CONTINUE THE MATTER TO EITHER A SPECIAL MEETING OR TO PUT ON THE CALENDAR FOR FOR A WORK SESSION SOMETIME BETWEEN NOW AND SEPTEMBER. SO I GUESS BEFORE SESSIONS, IF THERE ARE ANY ITEMS TO BE HEARD, THERE'S A WORK SESSION SCHEDULED ON SEPTEMBER 2ND. OKAY, SO I MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THIRD READING.

I BELIEVE WE FINISHED SECOND READING. SECOND READING IS CONCLUDED THEN APPROPRIATE TO HEAR THE MOTION. SO, MR. BREMER, I THINK YOU'VE GOT SOME COMMENTS. YOU'VE GONE THROUGH COUNCIL COMMENTS. SO HERE'S THE SECOND READING HAS BEEN COMPLETED. OKAY. UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER LESS OF OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS, I THINK THERE WAS A THERE WAS A CITIZEN WHO HAD RAISED THEIR HAND. IT WAS AFTER CITIZEN COMMENTS. YES. I'M JUST SORRY. FIRST TIME HERE. FIRST MEETING. YEAH. SORRY. IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO KIND OF FLOW WITH ME HERE. I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU ACTUALLY WORK IN THE SCHOOLS OR HAVE STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOLS, BECAUSE I DO, I WORKED IN THE SCHOOLS. I HAVE STUDENTS, AND YOU SAID OUR COMMUNITY IS BASED ON THE SUCCESS OF OUR SCHOOLS. IT IS DECLINING THE AMOUNT OF STUDENTS, THE AMOUNT OF BEHAVIORS IN THE CLASSROOM. IT IS DECLINING. HOW MANY TEACHERS HAVE LEFT THE DISTRICT? HOW MANY BEHAVIORS ARE WE SEEING? IT IS DECLINING. WE ARE ON A DECLINE. AND I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU WANT TO HEAR SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF NO. THAT TELLS ME YOU'RE NOT HEARING PEOPLE. YOU JUST WANT TO HEAR PEOPLE THAT AGREE WITH YOU. IF THE CONSENSUS, WHICH I HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN THIS ROOM IS NO, THEN MAYBE THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD BE HEARING INSTEAD OF

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WE REMEMBER THE HOMETOWN FEEL, AND THOSE ARE THE VALUES THAT WE WANT TO GET BACK TO, NOT PROGRESS AWAY FROM THIS. MARYSVILLE WAS SOMETHING BORN AND RAISED. BORN AT MARYSVILLE MEMORIAL HEALTH. THE TEACHERS THAT MY MOTHER HAD, I HAD THERE WERE HOME VALUES HERE THAT HEY, NOW WE CAN'T AFFORD ANYMORE IT WE ARE DECLINING. BUT YOU GUYS WANT TO SEE PROGRESS. BUT PROGRESS ISN'T ALWAYS GOOD. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE NOT HEARING THE OLD WAY. THE GOOD WAYS. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT DECLINING BIRTH RATES. HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S NOT FROM INFERTILITY ISSUES? FROM ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS? DID YOU DO ANY RESEARCH ON THAT? BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, THE RATE OF INFERTILITY IS GOING UP. WHY COULD IT BE BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS THAT YOU'RE NOT DOING RESEARCH ON? COULD IT BE THAT MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE MORE THAN TWO CHILDREN? I WAS BLESSED TO HAVE THREE AND STAY HOME. NOT EVERY MOTHER GETS TO RAISE THEIR KIDS ANYMORE. THIS COST OF DAYCARE. HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO THAT? NO. YOU'RE NOT IN TOUCH WITH REALITY. PEOPLE DON'T HAVE KIDS ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T. THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT. LOOK AT THE MEDICAL COSTS AND YOU JUST WANT TO GROW, GROW, GROW, GROW, GROW. HOW? HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO KEEP UP? WHEN YOU SAID YOURSELF THERE'S NO JOBS IN THIS AREA, HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO KEEP UP WITH GROW, GROW, GROW, GROW? I'VE SEEN THE TEACHER SALARIES. I JUST HAD TO RESIGN FROM THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE I MADE 32,000 AFTER EIGHT YEARS. LOVING THESE KIDS EVERY DAY, PUTTING MY BODY ON THE LINE EVERY DAY. I WORKED IN SPECIAL ED WITH THE MEEK OF THE EARTH. AND THAT'S ALL THAT I WAS WORTH. I SEE MY KIDS, I LOVE THIS, YOU UNDERSTAND? I'VE GOT FOOTBALL PLAYERS. I'VE GOT KIDS THAT RUN THE CITY PAGE IN THE POOL SPLASHING AROUND. WE'VE BEEN A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. I'VE GOT MY KIDS WHO DON'T FEEL ADMINISTRATORS PROTECT THEM ANYMORE. THEY COMPARE THE HIGH SCHOOL TO A GHETTO. BUT HAVE ANY OF YOU, ANY OF YOU, STEPPED INSIDE THE SCHOOL AND SEEN THESE BEHAVIORS? HAVE YOU SEEN PEOPLE GETTING BEAT DOWN BY LOCKERS? HAVE YOU HAS ANY OF YOU SEEN THAT? ANY OF YOU. AND YOU, YOU WANT TO PROGRESS MORE AND YOU WANT TO FILL THE SCHOOLS MORE AND FILL THE TOWN MORE, MORE, MORE AND MORE? WHAT ARE WE GETTING FOR OUR MORE? CAN ANYBODY ANSWER THAT FOR ME? WHAT ARE WE GETTING FOR OUR MORE? NAME ONE POSITIVE, PLEASE. ANYBODY? I'M OPENING IT UP TO THE FLOOR. ANYBODY. WHAT DO WE GET FOR MORE? NORMALLY THE ALBANY GROUP GETS MORE, THEY GET MORE. I'M SURE YOU GUYS GET MORE SOMEHOW. SOME WAY. WHAT DO WE GET? THAT'S MORE. MORE TRAFFIC, MORE CRIME, MORE COST. POLLUTION. WHAT DO WE GET? THAT'S MORE.

YOU SAY IT'S YOU'RE HERE FOR US. WE'VE SAID NO. EVERYBODY HAS SAID NO. AND YET WHAT HAPPENED? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I DON'T I DON'T GET IT. WAIT. HOLD ON ONE SECOND. ASHLEY, CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS? I DID THAT, I DID THAT, IT'S ASHLEY HENRY. AND YOU WANT MY ADDRESS? YEAH. IF YOU I'M HAPPY TO. FIVE, FIVE ONE SCOTT FARMS BOULEVARD, MARYSVILLE, OHIO. THANK YOU. NATHAN ELEMENTARY IS WHERE I WORKED AND WHERE MY KIDS WENT. THEY GO TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. THEY WENT TO EVERY SCHOOL IN THIS TOWN. YEAH. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY STATEMENTS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE? HEARING NONE. OKAY, SO I DID MAKE A MOTION. I'VE MADE A MOTION. OKAY. YOU MADE A MOTION. SO ROLL CALL, MISS KRAMER. SO NOW WE'RE TO WAIVE. YES. THIRD READING. NO. MR. BORDNER, THIS IS THIRD READING. CORRECT? WAIVE. THIRD READING. NO. SO THIS JUST JUST TO REITERATE, I THINK WHAT YOU HAD SAID, I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT THE VOTING, BUT WE HAVE TO NOW HAVE A IF IF IT DOESN'T PASS, WHICH IT REQUIRES SIX. WE HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TO VOTE ON IT. WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE SEPTEMBER 7TH. THAT'S CORRECT. THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY. SEPTEMBER 6TH, THE WORK SESSION. I THINK IT'S SEPTEMBER 2ND. SECOND. SORRY, I SAID SIXTH. YEAH. MR. WOLFF NO.

MR. BURBY YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. THREE. YES. MR. PORTER YEAH, YEAH. NO. OKAY.

THREE. YES. THREE. NO. SO IT COMES BACK TO THIRD READING. SO YOU NEED TO COME BACK TO WORK

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AND I'M SURE WE'RE MAKE WE'RE PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE MAYBE SOMEBODY THERE. YEP. I'M SURE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO WALK THROUGH THE METAL DETECTOR AND WE'LL HAVE SOMEBODY THERE TO MAKE SURE THE DOORS ARE OPEN. YEAH. ALL THAT STUFF. YES. IT'LL BE READY. YEP. OKAY. OKAY.

SO THEN ON MY FORM, IT SAYS THERE'S A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION AS AMENDED. WELL THIRD READING WAS NO. IT'S OKAY. MOVE ON. WE'RE DONE WITH THIS ONE OKAY. ORDINANCE F,

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GLOSSARY OF TERMS. ADMINISTRATION. YES, MR. PRESIDENT, I STILL HAVE SOME BRIEF INFORMATION REGARDING THE NEXT ORDINANCE F ORDINANCE G ORDINANCE H AN ORDINANCE I. SO.

I. DO. OKAY. REAL SET. WE GOOD. OKAY. I WILL MAKE THESE BRIEF. JUST BEEN A LONG MEETING TONIGHT, BUT I WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE AN OVERVIEW OF KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT FOR THE FIRST READING ON THESE. I'D BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH CITY COUNCIL ON ANY OF THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. I'LL GO GO THROUGH THESE ONE BY ONE AS WE AS JENNIFER READS THAT LEGISLATION.

SO WE'LL HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS HERE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. JUST QUICK DESCRIPTION OF THE RESTAURANT DEFINITION. WE'LL GO THROUGH PUBLIC NOTIFICATIONS. ACTION BY COUNCIL ON ZONING AMENDMENT LIKE LIKE YOU GUYS DID THIS EVENING. AND THEN DENSITY BONUS. THE FIRST ONE THAT JENNIFER HAS READ IS RELATED TO THE DEFINITION OF A RESTAURANT. WE'VE COME IN WANTED TO UPDATE THIS BECAUSE THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN IS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE SEATED IN PAY IN ORDER TO CLASSIFY THAT AS A RESTAURANT. I THINK WE HAVE SOME RESTAURANTS THAT MAYBE ARE FOCUSED ON TAKEOUT ONLY, AND YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY SEATED AND HAVE A SERVER THERE. SO WE WANT TO JUST UPDATE THAT. RELATED TO THIS TEXT HERE IN THE BRIGHTER GREEN. SO WHOSE PRIMARY USE IS TO PREPARE AND SERVE FOOD AND OR BEVERAGES TO PATRONS IN EXCHANGE FOR PAYMENT, WHICH MAY BE CONSUMED ON SITE OR AVAILABLE FOR TAKEOUT. AND THAT IS ALL WE HAVE IN RELATION TO THE FIRST ORDINANCE. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? YES. OKAY. SO THIS WILL BE BACK. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON

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ADMINISTRATION. I'LL DEFER TO ASHLEY OKAY. SO THIS ONE'S DEALING WITH PUBLIC NOTIFICATIONS. WHEN WE UPDATED THE ZONING CODE IN 2020, WE ADDED FIRST CLASS AND CERTIFIED MAIL. SO WE WANTED TO GIVE THAT A TRY. AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CERTIFIED MAIL COMING BACK TO US. SO WE WANTED TO GO KIND OF REVERSE AND GO BACK TO FIRST CLASS MAIL AS OUR WAY TO NOTIFY VIA THE MAIL SERVICE. WE'VE ALSO ADDED LANGUAGE, CONSISTENT LANGUAGE THROUGHOUT THE ZONING CODE IN VARIOUS SECTIONS. SO ALL THESE SECTIONS HERE THAT JENNIFER JUST READ, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CONSISTENT WITHIN THOSE SECTIONS BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF VARIATIONS OF IT.

IT WAS INTENDING THE SAME THING BUT A VARIATIONS. AND THEN WE DID HAVE A COUPLE SECTIONS WHERE WE WERE MISSING HOW WE SEND THOSE PUBLIC NOTIFICATIONS. SO YOU WILL SEE NOW THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THIS PRESENTED IN SELECTED MULTIPLE MEDIA OUTLETS, WHICH WE CURRENTLY DO NOW. WE ADDED MULTIPLE WITHIN THERE PER PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION IN CASE WE WANT TO POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA. THAT GOES OUT SEVEN DAYS AHEAD OF TIME. THE CITY WILL SEND NOTICES TEN DAYS BEFORE THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS, AND THEN THOSE WILL GO OUT VIA FIRST CLASS. SO THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE, BUT IT'LL BE THOSE THREE THINGS THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE ZONING CODE RELATED TO PUBLIC NOTIFICATION. AND THESE ARE THE SECTIONS WHERE THOSE WILL BE UPDATED. AND THAT IS IT. COUNCIL I HAD A QUESTION IN THE PAST. I'VE SEEN SOME TEMPORARY SIGNS. YES. LET'S SAY ACTUALLY ON THE PROPERTY WE DO HAVE THOSE TOO.

YES. I DIDN'T SEE THAT. WE DON'T WE DON'T LIST THAT IN THE ZONING CODE. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE DO. I DON'T TECHNICALLY I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD QUALIFY UNDER MEDIA OUTLETS EITHER. BUT THAT IS THAT IS A STEP WE DO. I HAVE I HAVE SEEN THEM IN THE PAST. SO AND THAT IS FOR OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEETINGS. SO SO PLANNING COMMISSION DRB, WE PUT THOSE SIGNS OUT AT THOSE PROPERTIES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 8TH. ORDINANCE I, I THINK WE'RE AT EIGHT.

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WE'RE ALSO ADDING IN A COUPLE ITEMS WITHIN THOSE CHARTS THAT I'LL SHARE HERE IN A FEW SLIDES.

CLARIFICATION ON THE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS, WHETHER IT'S PER BUILDING OR PER ELEVATION. SO WE REVIEWED 16 DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES WHO HAD DENSITY BONUS ZONING CODE.

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AND THEN FOR THE HIGHER REQUEST OF DENSITY, IT WOULD BE TWO DESIGN FEATURES FOR THE FRONT AND REAR AND ONE FOR EACH SIDE WITH AN ADDITION OF 10%. AND THEN IT'S A SIMILAR KIND OF LAYOUT AS AS YOU GO INTO THE DIFFERENT TYPOLOGIES. SO THIS IS FOR MIXED USE. IT'S FOR ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES PER BUILDING AND THEN FOR THE HIGHER DENSITY FOR ON THE FRONT AND THE REAR AND TWO ON EACH SIDE ELEVATION. AND THEN 5% AND 10% CONTINUES ON THAT TYPOLOGY AS WELL. AND THEN WE HAVE THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING AND THAT IS IT. TO BE HONEST, I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE. I WAS WE WERE THINKING ABOUT YEAH. JUST SO YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS FIRST READING TONIGHT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO SIT DOWN WITH ASHLEY, GO THROUGH THIS IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.

DO NOT HESITATE FOR SURE. DOES ANYBODY DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE. CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND SEND YOUR PRESENTATION? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YEP. SO THIS BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 8TH. THANK YOU MISS. THANK YOU. COMMENTS

[COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL PERSONS AND GENERAL DISCUSSION]

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. PRESIDENT. SO THAT MEANS THAT YOU WILL TAKE MY ROLE. YEAH. SO I'M GIVING YOU AN OPPORTUNITY. I EXPECT THE BEST. AND I ALSO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COMMON MEETING AND ASHLEY, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF MISS BROCK HAS, HAS YET, BUT SHE'S GOING TO SEND THAT OUT TO YOU. AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND, I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO ATTEND ON THE BEHALF OF MYSELF AND TERRY AND GET YOU, I THINK IT'S IN HILLIARD, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MEET DIFFERENT MAYORS AND CITY ADMINISTRATORS ACROSS OHIO. AND IT'S JUST A GOOD OPPORTUNITY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THOSE

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IT'S NOT SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD. AND IN FACT, YOU MIGHT EVEN ARGUE THAT IT'S OUR FRONT YARD.

SO I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO ATTEND THE VISIONING PROCESS TOMORROW AND GIVE INPUT IN A LITTLE DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT THAT HOPEFULLY IS ENERGIZING. WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT MARYSVILLE CAN BE. SO I THINK, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TONIGHT. AND I WILL PASS THAT ON TO TO MR. BORDNER. WE'LL START DOWN THERE WITH MR. BORDNER. JULIE GAVE YOU THE PLATFORM. SO SORRY. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I WAS AWAKE. FIRST AND FOREMOST, THANKS FOR EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. I KNOW MOST PEOPLE HAVE GONE BECAUSE IT'S TEN AND THEY HAVE BETTER PLACES TO BE THAN SITTING AT CITY HALL WITH US. I, I DO WANT I KIND OF REEMPHASIZE MISS KRAMER'S POINTS, BUT I DO WANT TO REITERATE THAT, YOU KNOW, 46 YEARS AGO, HONDA MADE AN INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH DROVE A VERY POSITIVE OUTCOME. AND I WASN'T HERE 46 YEARS AGO, CONSIDERING I'M NOWHERE NEAR THERE AND AGE WISE.

BUT I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE THE ANTICIPATION THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT HAD ON THE BROADER COMMUNITY. BUT THE REALITY IS, IS WHAT YOU HEARD MR. PHILLIPS SAY THIS EVENING WAS THAT RESULTED IN JOB CREATION, ECONOMIC PROSPERITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY VIA $7 BILLION INVESTMENT WITHIN MARYSVILLE. AND I THINK THERE'S SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINES OF 20 OR MORE SUPPLIERS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA THAT, YOU KNOW, MANY OF US ARE DIRECTLY IMPACTED. I KNOW I'M I, FOR ONE, AM DIRECTLY NOT ONLY FROM A, YOU KNOW, PERSONAL BUT JUST RELATIONAL PERSPECTIVE.

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YEAH. AND SO FAR HE'S GONE BACK TO 2018. SO 18, 19, 2021, 22, 23 OF COURSE AN HOUR AND 25.

AND LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY TAXES, LOOKING AT THE EXPENSES SCORED, POLICE YOU NAME IT.

YEAH. AND THE NEXT THING THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IS LOOKING AT, AT OUR DEMOGRAPHICS, OUR DEMOGRAPHICS FOR THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS, MAYBE BECAUSE I'M IN THAT AGE GROUP. YEAH, BUT THOSE OF US 65 AND OVER THAT NO LONGER FINANCIALLY SUPPORT THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE THROUGH INCOME TAX, ARE THE BIGGEST USER OF SERVICES. YEAH. SO AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT AT TIMES WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT. AND I'M GLAD THAT BRETT IS SPEARHEADING THIS.

AND IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE AS FAR AS WHAT IS OUR SENIOR POPULATION, HOW MANY RUNS DO WE MAKE? AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT MAKE US A QUALITY OF LIFE HERE IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, THAT WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE CAN BE SAFE. WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT BECAUSE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT PART, AS MR. BURTON MENTIONED, KIDS ARE GOING TO SCHOOL EARLY IN THE MORNING. IT'S NOW MAYBE STILL LATE. YEAH, IN ANOTHER MONTH IT'LL BE DARK.

AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CONTINUE TO TO, TO LOOK AT AND MONITOR AND WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS WITH AND SAY, IS THIS THE BEST THING FOR OUR CITIZENS OF MARYSVILLE? SO AGAIN, BRAD, KUDOS FOR STARTING THE FISCAL ANALYSIS AND I HOPE THAT IT CAN GO A LONG WAY IN KNOWING AND FINDING OUT WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY. APPRECIATE IT. MR. HUNTER. YEAH, JUST IN REGARD TO CITIZEN COMMENTS ABOUT OUR SCHOOLS, I THINK COUNCILMAN BURGER COMMENT ON OUR SCHOOLS. JUST GLAD TO SEE THEM BACK IN SESSION. SCHOOLS HAVE SCHOOLS OF IN ANY COMMUNITY HAVE THEIR ISSUES. CERTAINLY SCHOOLS WHEN I WAS GROWING UP HAD THEIR ISSUES. I THINK A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 80S AND 90S, 70S, 80S, 90S, WHATEVER IT IS VERSUS TODAY IS THOSE ISSUES FOLLOW HOME WITH KIDS, WITH SOCIAL MEDIA AT SCHOOL, WE CAN PUT SRO AFTER SRO IN THE SCHOOLS, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE AN ISSUE WITH KIDS BULLYING OTHERS. BUT IT'S JUST IT'S A MORE COMPLICATED SITUATION TODAY. BUT BE MINDFUL OF YOUR ROLE AS

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AND IT'S FILTERING DOWN TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON. AND IT'S LIKE THIS DISEASE THAT'S SPREADING ACROSS OUR COUNTRY. AND WHAT MR. HUNTER SAYING IT USED TO BE WHEN YOU WENT TO SCHOOL OR YOU WENT TO YOUR JOB OR YOU HAD A FAMILY MEMBER YOU REALLY DIDN'T LIKE, BUT YOU ONLY SAW THEM ONCE A YEAR, MAYBE AT THANKSGIVING. AND YOU WERE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? GOD BLESS. I DON'T SEE THAT PERSON ONCE A YEAR. BUT NOW WITH SOCIAL MEDIA, IT'S ALWAYS THERE AND IT'S ALWAYS FESTERING. AND ALL I ASK IS PATIENCE AND JUST EXTENDING AN OPEN HAND TO PEOPLE AND LISTEN. AND YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THE WORLD NEEDS MORE SILENCE THAN NOISE. SO I'M GOING TO TAKE MY OWN WORD OF ADVICE AND I'M GOING TO END THIS MEETING NOW. SO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. YEAH. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, THANKS. WHAT'S UP? YEAH. HE MADE THE

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.