Sep 08, 2025 City Council

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THANK YOU. IT IS. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME, EVERYONE, TO THE SEPTEMBER 8TH MARYSVILLE CITY

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ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALMIGHTY GOD, WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND ITS CITIZENS. AMEN. AMEN. ROLL CALL. MR. BORDNER HERE, MR. WOLF. HERE. MR. HERE, MR. HUNTER HERE. MR. REAMS PRESENT. MISS KRAMER HERE. THANK YOU.

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[ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]

ON THE SCHEDULE, WE HAVE THE 911 REMEMBRANCE OF REMEMBRANCE CEREMONY. THAT'LL BE THIS THURSDAY AT 950 HERE AT FIRE STATION 272. SO I KNOW FIRE CHIEF BURNS AND AND ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF WATSON HAVE A HAVE A GREAT PROGRAM SCHEDULED FOR THAT THAT DAY AS WELL. WE HAVE NATIONAL HUNTING AND FISHING DAY ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 20TH FROM NINE TO NOON. THAT WILL BE OUT AT THE HEART OF OHIO RESERVOIR. THAT'S RIGHT. BY 33 IN NORTHWEST PARKWAY.

THROUGHOUT THE DAY OR THROUGHOUT THAT TIME FRAME, THERE'LL BE FREE ACTIVITIES SUCH AS FISHING, SHOOTING, ARCHERY, AND KAYAKING. ON THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS SIDE, THE EXPANDED AFFAIR FOR FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ATTENDED WAS A HUGE, HUGE SUCCESS WITH OVER 300 VENDORS AND ADJACENT BUSINESS OWNERS. YOU KNOW, A BIG THANK YOU GOES TO THE MAIN STREET, MARYSVILLE, FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP AND ORGANIZATION FOR THIS ANNUAL EVENT AS WELL. WE RECEIVED MULTIPLE COMPLIMENTS FOR OUR PARKS AND EVENTS STAFF. THEY WERE KIND OF BOOTS ON THE GROUND, HELPING, HELPING ANYTHING THAT POPPED UP THROUGHOUT THE DAY, HELPING ADDRESS THAT AND MAKING SURE EVERYTHING RAN SMOOTHLY. WE ARE STILL WAITING ON FINAL ATTENDANCE NUMBERS FROM PLACER.AI, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE BASED ON WHAT I JUST LOOKED BEFORE THIS MEETING. WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE. TOMORROW WOULD BE MY GUESS. CITY STREET CREWS CONTINUE TO PERFORM CONCRETE WORK ON VILLAGE DRIVE, WALNUT STREET, EAST FIFTH STREET AND USE MASTIC TO REHABILITATE THE ROADWAYS. THE PARKS CREWS ARE CLEANING UP AFTER THE FESTIVAL FAIR EVENT. THEY ARE PERFORMING REPAIRS AT THE SKATE PARK AND CONDUCTING END OF THE SEASON INTERVIEWS WITH THE POOL STAFF ON THE WATER SIDE. CREWS CONTINUE ON THE CONWAY STREET WATER LINE. REPLACEMENT BEFORE THE CHICK FIL A MOVES IN, AND LAST WEEK THE AVERAGE WATER PRODUCTION WAS 4.7 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, WITH A PEAK OF 5.4. SO A LITTLE BIT ABOVE AVERAGE, BUT WITH IT BEING RELATIVELY DRY, NOTHING. NOTHING. THAT'S UNFORECASTED.

AND THEN FINALLY ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, CITY CREWS CONTINUE IMPLEMENTING NEW SOFTWARE TO ASSIST WITH THEIR OPERATIONS. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL TURN IT DOWN TO ASHLEY FOR SOME CONSTRUCTION UPDATES. THANKS, JEREMY. SO ALL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS ARE ONGOING BASED ON WEATHER AND CONTRACTOR DEPENDENT, BUT THE UPDATES THIS EVENING WARNER ROAD UTILITY EXTENSION PHASE TWO. THAT CONSTRUCTION BEGINS THIS WEEK ON THE WATER LINE INSTALLATION. THE COLEMAN'S AND INDUSTRIAL ROUNDABOUT THAT IS OPEN AND WE ARE GOING THROUGH PUNCH LIST ITEMS AT THIS TIME WITH THAT CONTRACTOR. BUT THE INTERSECTION IS OPEN FOR VEHICLES. CARRIE JACOBS AND CHERRY STREET SANITARY. THAT CONSTRUCTION ALSO CONTINUES, AND DURING THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT, NORTH CHERRY STREET WILL BE CLOSED TO THROUGH TRAFFIC FROM EAST FOURTH STREET TO LAKEVIEW DRIVE. THE RESERVOIR RESERVOIR CONNECTOR TRAIL PHASE TWO IS ALSO CONTINUING CONSTRUCTION, AND THE WEST FIFTH STREET IMPROVEMENTS. CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST FIFTH STREET. EASTBOUND TRAFFIC WILL BE DETOURED TO SIXTH STREET AT GROVE, AND WE ARE CONTINUING WORK ON THE 2025

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ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION, MISS GAVEN. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ANSWER, BUT MR. HOYING, WE DISCUSSED PUTTING THESE THE CROSSWALK OVER WEAVER AT PROFESSIONAL. AND I NOTICED THIS EVENING THAT THEY DID SOME CURB WORK. IS THE PLAN TO STAND THOSE UP ALONG WITH THAT PROJECT ACTIVITY OR YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M NOT SURE ON THE UPDATES FOR THAT, BUT I CAN I CAN CHECK ON THAT. WOULD YOU PLEASE. YEAH. SPEND SOME TIME IN THE MAKING. OTHERS. I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION IN REGARD TO THE PAVING. AT WHAT POINT IN THE YEAR DO WE NO LONGER HAVE PAVING? I MEAN, IT HAS TO END RIGHT? AT SOME POINT WHEN IT GETS TOO COLD. WHAT'S TYPICALLY THAT END DATE. YEAH, THAT'S TYPICALLY MID NOVEMBER. BUT IT YOU KNOW, OKAY. PLUS OR MINUS TWO WEEKS EITHER WAY DEPENDING ON WEATHER. BUT TYPICALLY YOU'RE JUST LOOKING FOR TEMPERATURES OVER 4045 DEGREES AND RISING. SO WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT TIME. I KNOW OUR PAVING CONTRACTORS DOING ALL THE CONCRETE WORK FIRST. SO THAT WAY WHEN THEY GET IN AND PAVE, THEY'RE NOT WAITING ON THE CONCRETE TO CONCRETE WORK TO BE COMPLETE. SO THE GOAL IS ONCE THEY START PAVING, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO GO FROM STREET TO STREET TO STREET TO STREET AND THEN HOPEFULLY WRAP IT UP WITHIN 2 TO 3, 3 TO 4 WEEKS. IS THE PLAN OKAY? I DO QUESTION ON THE CROSSOVERS BEING INSTALLED ON 33. DO YOU KNOW THE SCHEDULE ON THOSE? I DO HAVE A SCHEDULE. THEIR SCHEDULE. I'LL HAVE TO SUMMARIZE IT FOR YOU BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE 14 PAGES OF LIKE WITH 100 TASKS ON EACH PAGE. SO I'LL, I'LL TAKE A BETTER LOOK AT THAT AND TRY TO SEND OUT SOMETHING WITH SOME MORE, I GUESS, BIGGER MILESTONES AS IT RELATES TO THAT. BUT THE SCHEDULE WE GOT WAS FROM START, START TO FINISH, BUT IT WAS A PRETTY CUMBERSOME AND I JUST HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT YET. THAT'LL BE THE PLANNED TO BE DONE THIS FALL. THAT THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. SO THEY COULD START THE BRIDGE WORK IN LATE WINTER OR EARLY SPRING WHENEVER WEATHER IS NOT AS BIG, A BIG OF A FACTOR FOR THEM. AND DO YOU KNOW HOW THE SCHEDULE LOOKS FOR WEST FIFTH STREET? WHEN WILL BE SWITCHING TO THE NORTH SIDE? HOW DOES THAT SCHEDULE LOOK? EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD, IT'S ABOUT 2 OR 3 WEEKS PER SIDE. SO AT LEAST BASED ON WEST FIFTH STREET SO FAR, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'D BE SWITCHING PRETTY SOON UNLESS THEY RAN INTO ISSUES THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF. SO I WOULD THINK BY THE NEXT MEETING IT WILL HAVE BEEN FLIPPED. THANKS. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY, WE WILL MOVE ON THEN. IN TONIGHT'S AGENDA TO THE REPORT OF CLERK OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. OKAY, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS HEARING OF CITIZENS. SO THIS IS THE POINT IN TONIGHT'S MEETING WHERE YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. AND JUST TO LAY SOME OF THE GROUNDWORK, YOU WOULD COME TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME, PREFERABLY YOUR ADDRESS, AND THEN MAKE STATEMENT. YOU HAVE UP TO FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK. AND ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE A Q&A. CERTAINLY YOU CAN POSE QUESTIONS, BUT IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE A BACK AND FORTH. JUST STATE YOUR YOUR QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS OR COMMENTS. AND THAT'S THAT'S THE POINT OF THIS MEETING. SO ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON ANYTHING NOT ON THE AGENDA. NOT ON THE AGENDA YET? OKAY, OKAY. HEARING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO REPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. REPORT.

[REPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT]

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[PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION REPORT]

THE SCHWARZKOPF SHELTER HOUSE REPLACEMENT IS STILL ON ORDER. WORKING ON A PERMIT THERE. THE ALDERS GATE PARK RESTROOM STILL WORKING ON GETTING QUOTES AND PLANNING SEWER AND WATER CONNECTIONS TO THAT. AND THEN THE MCCARTHY PARK BASKETBALL COURT. THE PAVING THERE IS COMPLETE AND THEN COURT COATING IS SCHEDULED, AND THEN THE HOOP INSTALLATION AND FENCING WILL BE PUT UP AROUND THERE. AT OUR LAST FRIDAY NIGHT UPTOWN, IT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED. ALONG WITH THE CAR SHOW, THERE WAS AROUND 6000 ATTENDEES, SO THAT WAS A VERY GOOD EVENT. AND THEN THE PASSPORT TO ARCHERY EVENT WAS HELD ON AUGUST 9TH, AND THERE WERE 32 PARTICIPANTS IN THAT. SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ADDING ADDITIONAL PASSPORTS TO TRAILS AND NATURE EVENTS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT NEXT YEAR. IN ADDITION, ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING WAS THE ADOPTION OF THE PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN BY THE COMMISSION THAT IS PUSHED TO THIS MONTH'S MEETING COMING UP NEXT TUESDAY, JUST TO GIVE THE COMMISSION MORE TIME TO REVIEW THE ENTIRETY OF THE PLAN THERE. WE DID ADOPT THE FIVE YEAR PARKS AND REC CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR, 2026, AND I'LL KIND OF READ SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT. SO LOOKING AT LIKE SCOTT FAMILY PARK, THERE'S 675,000 ALLOCATED FOR PAVING THERE. BRIDGE DESIGN 75,000 KIND OF ARCHERY PARK AREA THERE 70 OR 25,000 AT THE AMERICAN LEGION PARK. THE AMPHITHEATER RENOVATION HAS 250,000. THERE'S A SKATE PARK EXPANSION EXPANSION DESIGN FOR THE HOPEFULLY THE SKATE PARK THERE ALONG WHERE THE DOG PARK CURRENTLY IS AND THAT REGION AND THEN SOME NOT NECESSARILY DETERMINED LOCATIONS, BUT THERE WAS 500,000 ALLOCATED FOR A NEW SPLASH PAD SOMEWHERE IN MARYSVILLE AND 100,000 FOR A NEW SPORTS COURT. AND THIS COMES FROM DEVELOPMENT FEES. SO THOSE ADDED UP TOTAL ABOUT ONE $1,850,000 FOR 2026 IN THE PARKS AND REC CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. COUNCIL, JUST ONE COMMENT BECAUSE I NOTICED AT ALGER, THE SKATE PARK HAD SOME CAUTION TAPE AROUND, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE WITH THE SKATE PARK, BUT I DID NOTICE SOME KIDS ON THE. THE JUMPS THERE. YEAH, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED. YEAH. SO I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY FROM STAFF COULD JUST GO. YEAH. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE KEY TASKS FOR OUR PARKS CREWS THIS WEEK IS TO FOCUS ON THAT, TO, TO BE ABLE TO REPLACE THE BOARDS IN THERE. IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS POPPING IT OUT. THERE'S 100 RIVETS THAT THEY HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO MY GUESS IS THE CAUTION TAPE WAS THERE TO JUST KEEP PEOPLE OFF OF IT UNTIL WE CAN DO THAT WORK THIS WEEK. YEAH. DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GET HURT. SO. THE UPDATE YOU HAD MENTIONED REGARDING THE RESTROOM AT ALDERSGATE PARK, WHERE'S THE RESTROOM PLANNED TO BE PLACED, IS THAT DETAIL? I'LL LEAVE THAT TO JEREMY. YEAH, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT. ONE IS BACK BY THE PICKLEBALL COURTS. WE'RE TRYING TO HIDE THE RESTROOM A LITTLE BIT, SO IT'S NOT AS VISIBLE FROM THE ROADWAY. AND THEN ONE WAS JUST A LITTLE NORTH AND WEST OF THE TREEHOUSE.

SO I KNOW WE'RE CURRENTLY EVALUATING THAT. WE'RE TRYING TO GO THROUGH REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT'S LOCATED. THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE THE, YOU KNOW, VIRTUALLY THE SAME.

SO I KNOW BRANDON'S BEEN WORKING ON THAT AND WE'RE STILL RUNNING SOME COSTS. ON HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO BRING WATER AND WASTEWATER TO IT AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THOSE SEEM TO BE THE TWO LOCATIONS THAT WE'VE AT LEAST SOLIDIFIED. AND NOW IT'S JUST WE'LL GO BACK TO THE COMMISSION TO DETERMINE WHICH ONE MAKES THE MOST SENSE. IF IT'S NORTH AND WEST, THAT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE JUST NORTH, I GUESS, NORTHEAST OF THE POND, THE NORTHERNMOST PORTION OF THE POND. OKAY. YEAH. SO TRYING TO KEEP IT WHERE IT'S VISIBLE SO PEOPLE KNOW IT'S THERE. BUT THEN WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING BY, YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT ALL THE TIME, EVEN THOUGH IT'LL BE BRICK AND IT'LL LOOK NICE. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS. ONLY THING I'D ADD IS WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT TOO HIDDEN. WE'VE SEEN THE MORTGAGE, AND THINGS ARE MORE

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OUTSIDE. NOT INSIDE. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS OKAY. MOVING ON.

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HERE WE GO. GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MY NAME IS GARY SMITH, 720 EAST BROAD STREET, COLUMBUS, OHIO. I'M THE LAND PLANNER AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. WE HAD A, I THINK, A REALLY GOOD MEETING THE LAST TIME WE MET.

THE THE COUNCIL ASKED US TO LOOK AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. WE HAVE TRIED TO TACKLE SOME OF THE BIGGER THINGS. IT'S KIND OF TAKEN A LITTLE BIT OF STUDYING A LITTLE WHILE, SO I WANT TO GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THAT WITH YOU TONIGHT. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE THAT WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS TOO. SO WE'RE I'M GOING TO TRY AND MAKE IT AS BRIEF AS I CAN.

BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO JUST BE THOROUGH. ANYBODY THAT HASN'T BEEN HERE OR SEEN IT, WE HAVE THE ARCHITECTURE. I'VE GOT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM HOVNANIAN HERE WITH US. I'M JUST GOING TO HAVE HER GO OVER NUMBER ONE, HER CONVERSATION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SHE SAT DOWN AND HAD A NICE CONVERSATION WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT. SHE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH KIND OF JUST THE ARCHITECTURE AGAIN PRETTY QUICKLY SO EVERYBODY CAN KIND OF SEE THE HOMES, KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE'VE ALSO GOT REPRESENTATIVES HERE FROM THE ENGINEER'S OFFICE. SO IF THERE'S QUESTIONS THAT COME UP THAT I CAN'T QUITE ANSWER, YOU KNOW, THE ENGINEER CAN ANSWER SOME OF THAT TOO. BUT I WANT TO STEP IN A LITTLE BIT ON JUST KIND OF GOING BACK THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY IS. IT'S JUST TO THE SOUTH OF US. ADINA POINT AND THE TRAILS THAT LEVERAGE AND THE SITE ITSELF IS ABOUT 103 ACRES RIGHT NOW. IT'S AGAIN, IT'S PRIMARILY OPEN FARMLAND. REALLY THE ONLY ENCUMBRANCE THAT WE HAVE ON THE PROPERTY IS WE'VE GOT A 25 FOOT EASEMENT, KIND OF ALONG THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE. ASIDE FROM THAT, THERE'S, I THINK 1 OR 2 TREES KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FARMLAND. BUT THE REST OF THAT IS JUST IT'S ALL OPEN FIELD. SO THIS IS THE THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WE INITIALLY CAME FORWARD WITH WHEN WE WENT TO SKETCH PLAN. AT THAT POINT WE WERE 266, LOTS OF VARYING LOT SIZES. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GOOD A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AT THAT POINT IN TIME. WE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH STAFF. I THINK A COUPLE OF YOU FOLKS ALSO MET WITH US KIND OF EARLY ON IN THE CONVERSATION, KIND OF STEERED US KIND OF IN THE DIRECTION.

AND SO THIS IS WHERE WE ENDED UP AT PLANNING COMMISSION. SO PLANNING COMMISSION ASKED US TO DO A NUMBER OF THINGS. ONE OF THEM WAS TO KIND OF SPREAD OUT THE BIG POND THAT WE HAD IN THE CORNER, JUST SO THAT WE COULD ESTHETICALLY BRING MORE WATER KIND OF THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID. THE OTHER THING THAT THEY ASKED US TO DO WAS TO BASICALLY PUT 70 FOOT LOTS UP AGAINST THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE SO WE COULD MATCH KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY AGAINST PROPERTY, LOT SIZE AGAINST LOT SIZES. WE GOT

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THAT WAS 250 LOTS. IT'S A MIX OF 55, 66 AND 70 FOOT LOTS AS YOU CAN SEE. AND THIS IS WHAT WE CAME TO YOU INITIALLY WITH AT THE FIRST READING. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KIND OF BEEN THINKING ABOUT OR KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT AS WE WENT THROUGH AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KIND OF HEARD A LOT ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, IS WHAT WE'RE DOING REALLY KIND OF COMPATIBLE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING TO THE NORTH. AND SO WE WE WANTED TO RESEARCH THAT A LITTLE BIT AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE KIND OF IN THE RIGHT BALLPARK.

WE DID PUT TOGETHER KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF A DISPLAY TO KIND OF INDICATE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. SO JUST LOOKING AT THAT WE HAVE SO THERE'S THERE'S THREE DISTINCT KIND OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT BORDER US. YOU'VE GOT THE YOU'VE GOT THE WEAVER RIDGE SECTION THAT'S KIND OF OUTLINED IN BLUE TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. YOU'VE GOT THE ADENA POINT SECTION. AND THAT'S REALLY KIND OF FROM THE TOP DOWN INTO THE MIDDLE. AND THEN ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE YOU'VE GOT THE I THINK IT'S CALLED LYNX VILLAGE. AND SO JUST HERE'S SOME NUMBERS. SO WHAT WE DID IS WE WENT THROUGH WE ADDED UP ESSENTIALLY ALL OF THE ACREAGE THAT'S PART OF EACH OF THE DEVELOPMENTS. WE ADDED UP ALL OF THE OPEN SPACE AND THE TOTAL NUMBER OF HOMES IN EACH DEVELOPMENT, AND JUST KIND OF RUN DOWN THROUGH THE NUMBERS WITH YOU AND SHOW YOU HOW THEY KIND OF COMPARE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO THE LYNX, WHICH IS THE PIECE TO THE FAR LEFT, THAT'S A 45.7 ACRES. THERE'S A TOTAL OF 158 LOTS IN THERE. AND SO THE DENSITY ON THAT IS 3.46 UNITS TO THE ACRE. AND THE TOTAL OPEN SPACE IS ABOUT TWO AND A HALF OR 2.5 ACRES, WHICH IS ABOUT 4% OF THE TOTAL OF THE COMMUNITY. SO 4% OPEN SPACE. THE ADENA POINT, WHICH IS THE LARGEST PIECE HERE, THE ADENA POINT IS KIND OF THE MOST SIMILAR, I THINK, TO WHERE WE ARE, THE ADENA POINT, THE TOTAL NUMBER, IT'S IT'S 103 ACRES. IT'S 252 LOTS, WHICH COMES OUT TO A DENSITY OF 2.44 UNITS TO THE ACRE. AND THERE'S A TOTAL OF 10.24 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE, OR ABOUT 9.93%. THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THE STORMWATER PONDS. IT INCLUDES ANYTHING THAT'S NOT HOUSE WE INCLUDED IN THAT OPEN SPACE TOTAL. AND THEN THE WEAVER RIDGE ACREAGE IS 48.25 ACRES, AND IT'S A TOTAL OF 124 LOTS, FOR A DENSITY OF 2.71 UNITS TO THE ACRE. AND THEY HAVE ABOUT FIVE ACRES OF OPEN SPACE, OR ABOUT 10% OF THE COMMUNITY. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW THAT STACKS UP TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE AT PRETTY MUCH THE SAME OR LESS DENSITY THAN ANY OF THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENTS. WE'RE AT 2.45 UNITS TO THE ACRE. AND THAT'S THAT'S NOT YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE LESS THAN THAT.

BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION AT THE AT THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING. SO WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE SOME. SO THIS IS JUST WHERE WE ARE NOW. THIS BEFORE ANY CHANGES JUST WHERE WE ARE NOW. SO YOU KNOW WE'RE AT 2.45 UNITS TO THE ACRE WHICH MATCHES UP PRETTY MUCH WITH ADINA POINT. BUT WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT 28 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE OR 27% OPEN SPACE.

WE'VE GOT CONSIDERABLY MORE OPEN SPACE. SO FROM A FROM A DENSITY STANDPOINT AND FROM A COMPATIBILITY STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SINGLE FAMILY AGAINST SINGLE FAMILY AT AT VERY SIMILAR OR LOWER DENSITIES. AND AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT CONSIDERABLY MORE OPEN SPACE IN IN A LOT OF CASES. SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. WE, WE, WE FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS VERY COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS KIND OF THE BIG TICKET ITEM THAT COUNCIL ASKED US TO LOOK AT WAS, CAN WE MOVE OUR ENTRY TO THE SOUTH SIDE? WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THAT AT THE FIRST READING. WE TOOK THAT TO HEART. WE WENT BACK AND WE LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, OKAY, WHAT WOULD WE NEED TO DO TO KIND OF MAKE THIS WORK? SO THE FIRST THING WE DID WAS JUST KIND OF PUT TOGETHER A SKETCH. OKAY, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? SO IF WE ELIMINATED THE ENTRY TO THE NORTH AND TRIED TO AVOID JUST HAVING KIND OF ONE LONG ENTRY STRAIGHT BACK, WHAT WOULD WE DO? SO WE WOULD WE LOOP THE ROAD AND THEN WE WOULD RUN ESSENTIALLY A BOULEVARD STRAIGHT OVER TO THE INTERSECTION. AND I KNOW A LOT OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS EXPRESSED AN INTEREST OF NOT REALLY HAVING A LOT OF LOTS ALONG THAT ENTRY DRIVE. SO WE

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SO WHAT WHAT CAN WE DO IN PLACE OF THAT. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT AND HERE'S WHAT WE WANT TO PUT IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT, IS WE HAVE NO CHOICE WITH THE LOCATION OF OUR ENTRY. IT HAS TO BE LOCATED TO THE NORTH, BUT WE CAN CHANGE IT PRETTY CONSIDERABLY FROM WHAT WE HAD BEFORE. NUMBER. THE FIRST THING THAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN SHIFT THE ENTRY DOWN AS FAR AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. AND I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS OVER SITE DISTANCE ISSUES. I'LL GO OVER THAT WITH YOU HERE IN A SECOND HOW THAT PANS OUT. BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HAVING AGAIN, LOTS JUST KIND OF ALL THE WAY DOWN THAT ENTRY THROAT.

SO I THINK SAME DEAL HERE. WE HAVE THE BOULEVARD COMING IN. WE TURN EVERYTHING WE JUST REMOVED ESSENTIALLY THOSE FIRST 12 LOTS AND JUST KIND OF TURN IT AROUND. SO THE ENTIRE THROAT OF THAT ENTRY ESSENTIALLY IS OPEN SPACE. AND THE PARK SPACE ON THE SOUTH JUST REMAINS AS IT WAS BEFORE. SO ESSENTIALLY WE HAVE OPEN SPACE. PROBABLY THE FIRST 801,000FT BACK FROM WEAVER ROAD. NOW, FROM A SITE DISTANCE STANDPOINT, WE TOOK A LOOK AT THAT. AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO SHOW YOU. SO THIS IS A GOOGLE EARTH PHOTO. THIS IS TAKEN FROM BASICALLY THE PEAK OR THE APEX OF THAT CURVE COMING DOWN AROUND WEAVER ROAD. SO YOU CAN SEE THE DRIVEWAY OFF TO YOUR LEFT. I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THAT ENDS UP BEING. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN SEE IS YOU HAVE A CLEAR LINE OF SIGHT, REALLY PRETTY MUCH MOST OF THE WAY DOWN THAT ROAD. SO YOU CAN SEE QUITE A WAYS DOWN WEAVER ROAD, WHICH MEANS IF YOU'RE DOWN AT THE INTERSECTION, YOU CAN ALSO SEE ESSENTIALLY TO THE APEX OF THAT CURVE. SO THE APEX OF THAT CURVE. HERE'S A QUICK DISPLAY. AGAIN THIS IS FROM GOOGLE EARTH TO WHERE OUR INTERSECTION IS. SO THE SO HERE'S WHERE WE WERE BASICALLY TAKING A PHOTO SITTING RIGHT BESIDE THAT DRIVEWAY. AND OUR ENTRANCE IS RIGHT DOWN HERE. THAT'S A TOTAL OF 738FT FROM THE APEX OF THAT CURVE ALONG THE SIDELINE. SO GOING BACK AND KIND OF LOOKING AT OKAY, HOW DOES THIS WORK? AND USING KIND OF THE ODOT STANDARDS BECAUSE I THINK THOSE WERE REFERENCED BEFORE. SO HERE'S WHAT THE ODOT STANDARDS SAY. SO THIS IS THE CHART DIRECTLY OUT OF THE ODOT

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AND IF YOU REMEMBER, WE'RE 780FT REALLY TO THE APEX, WHICH YOU CAN STILL SEE KIND OF FROM THAT INTERSECTION. SO WE FAR EXCEED THE ODOT STANDARDS FOR THAT REQUIREMENT. SO IN THE SECOND CHART SAME DISTANCES APPLY. BUT WE MOVE OUR WE MOVE OUR ENTRY ALL THE WAY DOWN SOUTH AS FAR AS WE CAN. NOW WE GET TO A TOTAL OF 480FT FOR 50 MILES AN HOUR. WE HAVE 544FT, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY SUPPORT A 55 MILE AN HOUR. SPEED LIMIT. SO WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF DISTANCE.

WE'VE EXCEEDED THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ODOT. AND THIS IS THIS IS NOT THE SAME STUDY THAT WE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY ENGINEER. THIS IS A DIFFERENT STUDY. WE WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE ODOT STANDARD BEFORE WE WERE LOOKING AT THE CITY STANDARD. SO BOTH FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE AND FROM ODOT'S PERSPECTIVE, WE CAN PROVIDE A SAFE AND EFFECTIVE INTERSECTION AT THAT LOCATION. SO IN REALITY, THE ONLY REASON TO MOVE THE INTERSECTION IS ESTHETIC OR OTHER ISSUES. I JUST WANT TO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE CAN CREATE A SAFE AND EFFECTIVE INTERSECTION. THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WE PROVIDED TO THE CITY SAYS THAT THAT INTERSECTION AT THAT LOCATION FUNCTIONS AT A LEVEL A EVEN IN FULLY BUILT OUT CONDITIONS. SO A LEVEL A IS THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF OPERATION POSSIBLE. SO WE CAN PROVE THAT THAT INTERSECTION IS SAFE BY ALL REASONABLE SAFETY STANDARDS.

AND WE'RE REALLY KIND OF AT A LOSS FOR BEING ABLE TO MOVE THAT INTERSECTION TO THE SOUTH.

WE TRIED WE WERE CERTAINLY WILLING TO BUY THOSE EASEMENTS. THOSE EASEMENTS AREN'T AVAILABLE TO US. SO EVERYTHING ELSE SO FAR NOW WE THAT'S KIND OF THAT TOOK A LOT OF EXPLORATION. THAT'S KIND OF AS FAR AS WE'VE GOTTEN. WE KNOW WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SOME OTHER CHANGES. WE KNOW WE HAVE TO BRING THOSE THINGS BACK TO YOU. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE EXPLAINED THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS EXACTLY WHAT WE DID, HOW WE TRIED TO RESPOND TO WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS ASKED US TO DO.

AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL ASKED US TO DO AFTER WE GET OUT OF THIS MEETING AND KIND OF HEAR WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORS HAVE TO SAY. SO THIS IS, AGAIN, JUST A QUICK DIAGRAM. THIS IS THE PREVIOUS PLAN. SO, YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE OPEN SPACE KIND OF UP IN THIS AREA. SO OUR OPEN SPACE TOTAL IS

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SO OUR SMALLEST WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO RANCHES IN THIS COMMUNITY. THIS IS THE SMALLEST PRODUCT AT ABOUT 1900 SQUARE FEET. ALL OF OUR ELEVATIONS IN THIS COMMUNITY WILL HAVE FRONT PORCHES A MINIMUM OF 12FT WIDE AND FOUR FEET DEEP. SO YOU WILL SEE THAT ON EVERYTHING IN THIS COMMUNITY, JUST SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS, DIFFERENT LOOKS HERE. AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF BESIDES THOSE TWO RANCHES WILL BE TWO STORIES. WE ARE ANTICIPATING THIS IS GOING TO BE A FAMILY BUYER. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE HERE, WE DO HAVE OPTIONS FOR A SIDE LOAD GARAGE AS WELL. SO ANY OF OUR CORNER LOTS THAT WE CAN ENGINEER TO HAVE SIDE LOAD GARAGES WILL HAVE THOSE. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DID ADD IN AS WELL. SO YOU'LL SEE THE MIX OF MATERIALS ON OUR IMAGES WITH THE STONE AND THE VINYL SHAKE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AGAIN, JUST TO PROVIDE SOME DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN THE HOUSES. WE ARE ALSO WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 2 TO 3 ELEVATIONS FOR EVERY MODEL, SO WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY ELEVATIONS THAT ARE THE SAME NEXT TO EACH OTHER OR ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER. SO WE ARE COMMITTING TO THAT AS WELL.

OH, SORRY. I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO FAST HERE. THE NICE THING ABOUT HAVING SUCH A WIDE VARIETY OF PRODUCT ARE THE LOT SIZES ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO LOOK DIFFERENT, SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE LENGTH BETWEEN HOUSES, WHICH WILL PROVIDE TO THAT OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT THAT GARY'S REALLY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AS WELL. HERE'S ANOTHER SIDE LOAD OPTION. SO WE'RE RANGING ALL THE WAY FROM 2000FT■!S TO JUST OVER 3000. THAT'S OUR LARGEST PLAN IN THIS COMMUNITY. AGAIN, THAT'S PROVIDING TWO RANCHES. THIS IS THE THE BIGGER OF THE TWO RANCHES RIGHT HERE. BUT WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE A FAMILY BUYER IN THIS,

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WE HAD A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION, AND I DID WALK HIM THROUGH A LITTLE BIT AROUND THE TIMELINE. SO WE REALLY WON'T START. WE WOULD NOT START DEVELOPMENT UNTIL NEXT YEAR. WE WOULDN'T START SELLING HOUSES UNTIL 2027. WE ARE ANTICIPATING AROUND 30 TO 36 HOMES SOLD PER YEAR. STATISTICS IN MARYSVILLE SHOW ABOUT 1.2 SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN. SO THAT WOULD BE 30 TO 40 CHILDREN PER YEAR. ONCE WE GET A FULL YEAR OF SALES, WHICH REALLY WOULDN'T BE UNTIL 2028 THAT WE WOULD BE ADDING INTO THE SCHOOL. SO HE WAS VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT WE CAME AND SHOWED HIM THE PLAN, WALKED HIM THROUGH THE TIMELINE. I KNOW THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS IN THE MIX, WITH EVEN THE PRESCHOOLS COMING ON BOARD AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO HE WAS VERY HAPPY THAT WE WENT AND HAD THAT CONVERSATION AND KIND OF WALKED HIM THROUGH WHAT THAT TIMELINE WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO. ANYTHING ELSE? DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ARCHITECTURE BEFORE I. TURN IT OVER TO THE PROPERTY OWNER? JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. OKAY.

YOU DID MENTION AS FAR AS THE LARGER SIZES, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR SMALLEST HOUSE THAT YOU WOULD BUILD? HOW MANY SQUARE FEET? SMALLEST HOUSE IS ABOUT 1950. THAT'S OUR TUCSON RANCH.

YEAH. SO JUST UNDER 2000FT■!S. OKAY. GO AHEAD. I GO AHEAD. I THINK HE'S LOOKING AT YOU. YEAH.

GO AHEAD. MARK. RIGHT. SO. THE YOU MENTIONED ALL THE GARAGES WOULD BE SET BACK FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AT LEAST 4 TO 6FT. FOUR FEET. MINIMUM OF FOUR FEET. MOST OF OUR PLANS ARE GOING TO BE BETWEEN 4 AND 6. FROM THE FROM THE FROM THE PORCH. PORCH? YES. YEAH. LIVING SPACE. YEP. OKAY. JUST ONE QUESTION REAL QUICK. SORRY. SO, MR. SO AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO CITIZEN COMMENTS. WE HAVE A PROPERTY OWNER WHO'S GOING TO BE SPEAKING AS PART OF THE ADMINISTRATION COMMENTS, OR SHOULD SHOULD WE MOVE TO CITIZEN COMMENTS AND ALLOW THE THE PROPERTY OWNER TO SPEAK? IT'S UP TO YOU. I WOULD I WOULD LET THE PROPERTY SPEAK NOW.

OKAY. AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ONCE THEY FINISH PRESENTATION. OKAY. AND I HAVE ONE QUESTION PERHAPS ALSO BEFORE WE MOVE INTO CITIZEN COMMENTS, WE HEARD ABOUT AN OPTION THAT WAS IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS HAD COME FORTH IN THE FIRST READING IN TERMS OF DISCUSSION POINTS DURING TONIGHT'S MEETING. SECOND HEARING. ARE WE TO WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THERE BE SOME LIMITATION ON WHAT LIKE TOPICS WE SHOULD FOCUS ON WHAT TOPICS WE SHOULD AVOID AS IT RELATES TO A POTENTIAL AMENDMENT. WELL, I, I WOULD CAUTION AGAINST THAT SINCE, I MEAN, I GUESS WE CAN TALK ABOUT POTENTIALLY MOVING THE ENTRANCE FURTHER SOUTH AND TAKING SOME THINGS OUT, RECONFIGURING THE SITE. SO I THINK I THINK ANY DISCUSSION REGARDING THAT IS, IS THE SCOPE.

OKAY. AND I GUESS JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER AT THE THIRD READING, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, IF THEY WANT TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE SITE PLAN, THEN WE HAVE TO GO TO THEM IN THE PROCESS. MAYBE THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION. IN FAVOR OF PASS. AMENDED FOR THOSE TWO PASSENGER STATIONS. CORRECT. BUT THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE DONE TODAY. SO YEAH, THAT'LL BE DONE LATER. OKAY. BUT IF IT'S NOT A THIRD READING THEY CAN SAY YES. SO IT'LL BE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING ON THE LEGISLATION AS AMENDED. OKAY. I'LL RESTATE WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

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WE'VE HAD TO DROP A SECOND KINDERGARTEN CLASS AND TURN AWAY STUDENTS. FUTURE GROWTH IS AT OUR DOORSTEP AND WE ARE POISED TO BREAK GROUND AS SOON AS WE REACH 50% OF THE NEEDED FUNDS FOR PHASE ONE OF OUR PLAN. IF CONSTRUCTION IS FURTHER DELAYED, FUTURE GROWTH IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY AND THE NEED TO CUT BACK IS EVEN GREATER. AND OUR FAMILY IN PARTICULAR IS DEVASTATED BY THE THOUGHT OF TURNING CHILDREN AWAY. OUR SCHOOL AND ITS STAFF HAVE A DEEP LOVE FOR ALL CHILDREN, AND FEEL THE URGENCY TO SERVE THE FAMILIES OF OUR AREA. SEEKING THIS EDUCATIONAL OPTION. OUR CONGREGATION AND SCHOOL FAMILIES STRONGLY SUPPORT OUR STRATEGIC MINISTRY PLAN TO CONTINUE. OUR MAIN OUTREACH IS SHARING GOD'S WORD WITH LITTLE ONES IN THEIR FAMILIES. I'M SHARING THIS NOT AS AN EMOTIONAL APPEAL, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PRIORITIES OF MY FAMILY WILL NOT ALIGN WITH EVERYONE, BUT I FEEL THE

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GOOD EVENING. ANDREW MATHERS 825 LORENZO COURT. I'M ONE OF THE PROPERTIES ACTUALLY SHOWN ON THE MAP DIRECTLY IN THE CORNER. ACTUALLY, MY COMMENTS WILL BE PRETTY BRIEF TODAY.

I'VE BEEN TO NOW FOUR OF THESE MEETINGS, BEEN FOLLOWING IT ALONG QUITE CLOSELY, PROVIDED A NUMBER OF COMMENTS. I'M ACTUALLY ENCOURAGED BY WHAT THEY'RE SHOWN IN THE LATEST PLAN. OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, FLIPPING THE ENTRANCE WOULD MAYBE BE PREFERRED, BUT WHAT WHAT WE'RE SHOWN HERE IS ENCOURAGING TO ME. IT'S SHOWING AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF KIND OF LISTENING ON THE DEVELOPER'S PART. BUT I THINK IT'S MAYBE KIND OF ALONG THE SAME LINES OF WHAT'S THE ORDER OF OPERATIONS HERE? CERTAINLY THIS IS A DISCUSSED CHANGE, BUT THIS HAS

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GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMAN. COUNCILWOMAN RICHARD ROUSH, 940 WALKER WOODS LANE, MARYSVILLE.

I'D BE REMISS NOT TO COME UP. MY MOM WOULD PROBABLY SAY YOU'VE OPENED YOUR MOUTH YOUR WHOLE LIFE. WHY AREN'T YOU UP THERE? MY FAMILY'S BEEN ROOTED IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME. I'VE BEEN AN EDUCATOR. I'VE HAD CONTRACTS AT MARYSVILLE, ALTHOUGH I DIDN'T TEACH THERE. I LEFT TO GO TO GRAD SCHOOL. CAME BACK, WAS AT NORTH UNION FAIRBANKS. I HAVE WORSHIPED AT TRINITY AND NOW SAINT JOHN'S. THANKS FOR FOR YOUR WORK, FOR YOUR DILIGENCE, FOR WORKING THROUGH ALL THESE THINGS. YOU'VE HEARD AMY. I DON'T NEED TO SAY ANYMORE.

ANYONE ELSE? MIKE DOVER 14471 WEAVER ROAD, RIGHT TO THE NORTH OF. WELL, ORIGINALLY LOTS ONE THROUGH SIX. NOW, I GUESS AN OPEN SPACE. I WOULD SAY I ECHO AMY AND THAT I HAD A LOT READY TO ROLL. AND I APPRECIATE THE DILIGENCE TO REMOVE A LOT OF LOTS. I THINK THE LAND IS I MEAN, LIKE GARY SAID, IT'S WIDE OPEN. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. YOU KNOW, I BOUGHT THAT HOUSE FOUR YEARS AGO NOW. AND, YOU KNOW, WATCHING MY SON GET TO RUN AROUND IS FUN. AND I'D HATE TO LOSE, LOSE THAT OPEN SPACE. I KNOW NOT NOT EVERYBODY CAN GET WHAT THEY WANT. I GENERALLY GET WHAT I WANT. I WILL SAY THE PICTURE USED FOR THE VISIBILITY IS NOT THE MOST TRUE. IF YOU GO OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN CUTTING TREES DOWN ON THE LAND AROUND ME. BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE. MY WIFE CAN'T SEE WHEN SHE PULLS OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY. ZACH AND I HAD A CONVERSATION. I MEAN, WE ABOUT GOT RUN OVER ON WEAVER ROAD BECAUSE PEOPLE GO 75, 80 A LOT OF TIMES. IT'S NOT NOT VERY ENJOYABLE SOMETIMES, BUT MAYBE ADDING ADDING SOMETHING THERE WOULD SLOW PEOPLE DOWN. HOPEFULLY. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU SIR. OTHERS. OKAY. HEARING NO FURTHER CITIZEN COMMENTS. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO COMMENTS OF COUNCIL COMMENTS FROM ANYONE. MR. VICE PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO SPEAK NOW. IT'S MY TURN. I'M GOING TO BLOCK THIS PHONE CALL FIRST. SORRY. SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR SPEAKING FOR AND AGAINST. IT DOES TAKE A LITTLE BIT TO GET UP TO THE PODIUM AND SPEAK IN FRONT OF A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE, PEOPLE. SO THOSE WHO DON'T DO IT ON A WEEKLY OR BI WEEKLY BASIS, YOU KNOW, I APPLAUD YOU FOR, FOR DOING THAT. I THINK FROM THE DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE, I WANT TO THANK GARY FOR. LISTENING. RIGHT. I, I WAS THIS IS THE FIRST TIME JUST PUBLIC RECORD THAT I'M SEEING THIS AS WELL. AND I WASN'T CONVINCED THAT WHEN WE SPOKE ON THE 25TH OF AUGUST THAT I WAS GOING TO GET ANY TRACTION. SO I DID GO DOOR TO DOOR, AND I DID ASK NEIGHBORS FOR THEIR OPINION, AND QUITE A FEW OF THEM SHOWED UP TONIGHT.

SO THANKS FOR LISTENING TO ME. I APPRECIATE THE SETBACK. THE BOULEVARD. I WOULD PREFER THAT

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YEAH. SO SO TYPICALLY WHEN YOU DO WITH THIS, IF THE SPEED LIMIT IS 45, YOU TRY TO MAKE YOUR DESIGN SPEED 50. SO THAT WAY IF YOU CLEAR THAT YOU'RE GOOD. AND I THINK THE REASON 55 IS HIGHLIGHTED IS JUST TO SHOW IT EVEN EXCEEDS THAT DESIGN SPEED. YEP. SO I KIND OF HAD IN MY MIND MENTALLY PREPARED. THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE ANSWER. SO I WOULD ASK COMING FROM SOUTH TO NORTH, BEING THAT IT'S 55 MILES AN HOUR, 60 MILE AN HOUR WOULD BE THE RANGE. YEAH. RIGHT.

WE CAN WE CAN SHOW THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THIS COMMENT REAL QUICK, PLEASE. SO IF YOU GO BACK TO THE CHART, THE SPEED CHART. YEAH. SO 60 MILES AN HOUR AT A LEFT HAND TURN. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT'S 665FT VERSUS 610. CORRECT. I JUST CAN WE GET A MEASUREMENT TO ESPECIALLY COMING BACK TO THIRD READING. BECAUSE AGAIN SAFETY WAS MY CONCERN RELATIVE TO THE ENTRANCE, ECHOED BY A NUMBER OF OTHER OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS AUDIENCE TONIGHT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T SOLVE FOR ONE PROBLEM AND CREATE ANOTHER. YEAH, THAT.

JENNIFER. OKAY. YEAH. AND THAT JUST SO YOU'RE THAT 665FT WILL TAKE YOU RIGHT ABOUT TO THERE, RIGHT ABOUT DOWN TO OUR, OUR SOUTHERN PORTION. SO THAT AND THAT'S ALL STRAIGHT. THAT'S FROM COMING UP. YEP. OKAY. YEAH. BUT I IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE OVER, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYONE'S WORD FOR IT. AND IF WE NEED TO WAIT, KNOW THAT WE CAN. THAT'S FINE. WE WE'LL WE'LL PUT TOGETHER A DISPLAY. HE'S. I THINK YOU HAVE THE SAFETY STUDY. YEAH, I JUST DREW ON THE WRITINGS. CONFIRM THE NUMBERS. SO JENNIFER'S GOT THOSE. SO, MISTER HOYT, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE. YES. COMING FROM THE SOUTH TO THE NORTH? YES. REAL CLOSE TO WHERE MY EYES ARE. 555FT.

BUT IF YOU HAD ANOTHER 100, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER, THAT IT WAS A 650FT. 555 PLUS 100 IS 655. YEAH, YEAH. 655. SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T SOLVING FOR ONE AND NOT CONTEMPLATING THE OTHER. THAT'S. THAT'S ALL. YEP. AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT PREMIUM MATERIAL AND THEN THE OPEN SPACE. I, I PUT A BLANK. WHAT WHAT'S THE OPEN SPACE THAT YOU HAD CALCULATED FOR THE. SO I GUESS CURRENTLY BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE MAKE ANY CHANGES. CURRENTLY 7.7%. YEAH. NOW I WANT TO BE CLEAR. SO IT'S OPEN SPACE WITHOUT PONDS. IS 20 ACRES. OPEN SPACE WITH PONDS IS 28 ACRES. SO BETWEEN 20 AND 28%.

YES. YES. CORRECT. OKAY. AND THAT IS ONLY GOING TO INCREASE WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU FOR THE THIRD READING, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THESE CHANGES. YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE THESE CHANGES. WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THESE CHANGES AS LONG AS THE COUNCIL APPROVES THE AMENDMENTS.

WELL, AS LONG AS THE COUNCIL LIKES WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THESE CHANGES.

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SO I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THE LAST ONE WAS. WE HAD A MEETING WITH DOCTOR HOWARD. RIGHT? OR YOU? NOT ME. KRISTEN DID. OKAY. CORRECT. YEAH. WAS THERE ANY, LIKE, FEEDBACK OTHER THAN. NO, THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC FEEDBACK. RIGHT? KRISTEN. OTHER THAN HE WAS JUST VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT WE CAME IN AND AND SHARED KIND OF THE TIMELINE. I THINK THE TIMELINE WAS KIND OF ENCOURAGING TO HIM THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO DUMP, YOU KNOW, 250 HOUSES ON HIM RIGHT AWAY, OR 200, WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS, YOU KNOW, AND I'M SORRY, I HAVE TO CLARIFY THIS ONE OTHER POINT.

KRISTEN MADE A COMMENT, 30 TO 40 KIDS AND SHE SAID, PER YEAR, PER YEAR, HOW MANY YEARS ARE WE TALKING TO? EXPECT TO SEE THAT INCREMENTAL. WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 30 HOUSES HERE FIVE YEARS JUST DEPENDING ON THE DEVELOPMENT. SO HOW MANY ROUGHLY HOUSES WOULD THAT BE PER YEAR? 30 TO 40 HOMES A YEAR. OKAY. INFLUX OF HOMES WON'T COME UNTIL BEST CASE SCENARIO IS 28. BUT REALLY 29 IS WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, 7500 HOMES. OKAY. ESTABLISHED.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, MR. VICE PRESIDENT. OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCILMAN KRAMER, AND ALONG THE LINE OF THE STUDENTS WITH THIS EXPANSION, THEN WE MIGHT ALSO EXPECT SOME STUDENTS TO, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE CAPACITY TO HAVE STUDENTS THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE IN THE MARYSVILLE SCHOOL SYSTEM, THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME BALANCING OUT THERE, LIKE LIKE SAINT JOHN'S. ARE YOU REFERRING TO THAT? YES. WELL, I'M ASSUMING I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY ANYBODY IN THE MARYSVILLE COMMUNITY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR SAINT JOHN'S BECAUSE I'M NOT AFFILIATED WITH SAINT JOHN'S. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE SCHOOL OR THE BUSINESS MODEL, BUT I'M ASSUMING ANYBODY IN THE MARYSVILLE COMMUNITY HAS THE ABILITY TO, TO, TO TRY AND ENROLL. AND I KNOW THEY'VE HAD TO TURN AWAY SOME KIDS, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY WOULD TAKE ANYBODY FROM THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING PEOPLE FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT, FOR SURE. PROBABLY WHAT YOU COULD SAY IS, TO THE EXTENT THAT AN AVERAGE SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD CONTRIBUTES TO SAINT JOHN'S STUDENT POPULATION.

YEAH, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE IN PROPORTION. YEAH, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT NOTE UP SINCE STUDENT POPULATION IS IS A CONCERN THAT WE DISCUSS OFTEN. ALWAYS. IT ALWAYS IS. YEAH. I HAVE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER. I FORGOT. I WAS WONDERING JUST FROM A CONNECTIVITY POINT OF VIEW, HOW WIDE ARE THE ROADS GOING TO BE? LIKE, I'M JUST THINKING LIKE PEOPLE FROM THE COUNTRY EITHER CROSSING, GOING TO THE PARK, COMING UP THROUGH WEAVER, EDINA, OVER TO 38 DOWN TO GET UPTOWN. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PUT LIKE A WALKING PATH INTO AND AROUND THAT CONNECTS LIKE A. YEAH. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO HAVE SIDEWALKS. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR, OUR LAST PRESENTATION, IF I CAN GET TO IT. SO THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO HAVE A NUMBER OF, OF WALKING PATHS ALSO THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

AND WE'LL CONNECT THAT UP TO WEAVER ROAD, ESSENTIALLY ALONG THAT BOULEVARD. SO YOU'LL HAVE YOU'LL HAVE CONNECTION FROM WEAVER ROAD, YOU KNOW, INTO THE COMMUNITY. YOU'LL HAVE CONNECTION IN THROUGH THE OPEN SPACE, ALL THE OPEN SPACES THAT ARE CONNECTED, KIND OF SHOWN ON THIS DIAGRAM. YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE WALKING PATHS THAT YOU KNOW YOU CAN UTILIZE. AND THEN OF COURSE, SIDEWALKS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, THE STREETS. YOU ASKED A QUESTION KIND OF ABOUT THE STREETS. THE STREETS ARE GOING TO MEET THE STANDARD KIND OF SUBDIVISION STREET REQUIREMENTS, NINE NINE FOOT TREE LAWNS. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST.

CONCRETE DRIVEWAYS, SIDE LOADED GARAGE, CERTAINLY ON THE CORNER LOTS. UNLESS THE ENGINEER TELLS US THERE'S SOME REASON WE CAN'T IF THERE'S A UTILITY CONFLICT OR SOMETHING. BUT THE INTENT IS TO TO SIDE LOAD THOSE. SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS KIND OF FROM A STANDARD STREET PERSPECTIVE. GO COUNCILMAN REAVES. YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S STILL SOME ADJUSTMENTS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IN ADJUSTING A FEW LOT SIZES. YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO REDO. WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF LOTS. WE HAVEN'T MADE THAT CHANGE YET BECAUSE PRIMARILY WE WERE JUST FOCUSED ON SEE IF WE COULD SOLVE THIS PROBLEM WITH THE ENTRY. BUT NOW THAT WE WE THINK

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NOT NECESSARILY. BUT I THINK IT'S SAFE TO ASSUME THAT. SO ANY OF THE SMALLER ONES CAN CERTAINLY FIT ON ANY OF THE BIGGER LOTS, BUT THE BIGGER ONES AREN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO FIT ON THE SMALLER LOTS. SO THERE WILL BE SOME KIND OF CORRELATION BETWEEN THE LOT SIZE AND THE AND THE PRODUCT. BUT YOU KNOW, THEY WON'T BE SPECIFICALLY TIED TO IT. LIKE WE WON'T SAY IF YOU'RE BUYING A 35 FOOT, THEN YOU CAN ONLY BUY A 55 FOOT LOT. COUNCILMAN KIRBY.

OH, OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AGAIN. APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS. AND ESPECIALLY, I GUESS ALL OF US ARE KIND OF CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT YOUR FINAL NUMBER IS, BUT FROM WHAT YOU'RE EXPRESSING IT, IT IS GOING TO BE SOUTH OF THE 250 THAT WE INITIALLY STARTED WITH. OKAY. SO EVEN WITH THIS CHANGE, IT'S SOUTH OF 250. BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME FURTHER CHANGES TO THAT.

SO THERE ARE A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND MINE ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ALONG THE LINE OF LOGISTICS IN YOUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARD TEXT. YOU ARE EXPRESSING THAT ANY DIFFERENCES OR ANY CONFLICTS HAVE TO GO ACCORDING TO THE DEVELOPMENT TEXT. OKAY. YEAH, I WAS 1135 FOR PROVISION GOVERNING PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. IT SAYS THE OPPOSITE, THAT IT HAS TO GO ACCORDING TO THE CITY, AND THE CITY MAKES THOSE DECISIONS, NOT THE DEVELOPER. SO I WANT TO GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY. YEAH, YEAH, IT'S A MATTER OF EITHER YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT WE SAY OR YOU GET TO DO WHAT? WHAT YOU WANT TO WRITE. I JUST WANT TO CLEAR IT OUT. IT IS SECTION 1130 504, THE PROVISION GOVERNING PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND THE REQUIREMENT AND OTHER APPLICANT CHARGES OF THE PLANNING CELL. GOVERNOR. THIS THIS PARTICULAR SECTION. SO IF YOU CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THAT LANGUAGE, I'LL WORK WITH ASHLEY AND WE'LL GET THAT CLEANED UP OKAY. IF WE DO THAT ONE. YEAH. THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT, AND THAT IS WHAT DO YOU SEE THIS AS A COMMUNITY. YEAH. BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE GIVING US THE TEMPLATE OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD, WHICH ARE WHAT THE CITY WANTS TO. YEAH, YEAH. YOU ARE REFERRING TO AN HOA. ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD 80% AND THEN DECIDE ON HOA? RIGHT. THEY'RE GOING TO THEY TAKE 20 HOMES AND THEN ALREADY ORGANIZED. SO THAT WAY PEOPLE THAT COME INTO THE COMMUNITY AND I'M THINKING ABOUT THERE IS NOTHING MENTIONED ABOUT AND SOME OF THE LOTS ARE FAIRLY SMALL. THERE IS NOTHING MENTIONED ABOUT SEPARATE STRUCTURE, A SHED.

YEAH, BECAUSE THE GARAGES ARE SMALL. IF SOMEBODY HAS A LAWNMOWER, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PUT IT AT? AND NONE OF THAT IS CURRENTLY EXPRESSED AS TO WHAT THEY CAN OR CANNOT DO.

THOSE ARE BOTH GOOD QUESTIONS. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU YET ON THE HOA, BUT I WHEN WE COME BACK FOR THE THIRD READING, I'LL GET YOU THAT ANSWER. TYPICALLY, THE WAY THEY WORK IS THAT THE THE DEVELOPER WILL CONTROL THE HOA FOR A PERIOD OF TIME UP UNTIL A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF LOTS ARE SOLD. AND THEY DO THAT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE OPEN SPACES STAY MAINTAINED BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL SELLING IN THE COMMUNITY. SO THEY HAVE A THEY HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN MAKING SURE THAT KIND OF EVERYTHING'S GETTING DONE. I'LL GET YOU A FINAL ANSWER ON WHAT THE PERCENTAGE OR WHAT THE INTENT IS. BY THE TIME WE COME BACK IN TERMS OF THE SHEDS. I'LL GET YOU A FINAL ANSWER ON THAT TOO, WILL. AND THERE'S THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON. WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME AMENITIES IN THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVEN'T HAD REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF GO OVER THAT YET, SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO UNVEIL SOME OF THAT BY THE THIRD READING. AND KEEP IN

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THEY'RE THEY DON'T BUILD FOR RENT. THEY'RE BUILDING FOR INDIVIDUAL MARYSVILLE RESIDENTS.

YOU KNOW THAT WANT TO THAT WANT TO MOVE TO THIS COMMUNITY. AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT IS THERE COULD THERE BE ANYTHING IN THE HOA DOCUMENTS OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD KEEP THEM FROM RENTING, FROM RENTING THE HOME, AT LEAST FOR A PERIOD OF TIME? AND I THAT IS SOMETHING I'D PROBABLY WANT TO TALK TO AN ATTORNEY ABOUT. OR, OR LET KOMNENIAN KIND OF TALK TO THEIR ATTORNEY ABOUT. YEAH, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN. ZACH, HOPEFULLY YOU'RE TAKING NOTES.

WE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. OKAY. IF YOU DO, IT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO STEP UP TO THE MIC. YOU CAN STEP UP TO THAT PODIUM IF YOU WANT OR COME ALL THE WAY UP HERE. WE'LL SEE YOU.

SO ZACH WILCOX, VICE PRESIDENT OF LAND ACT FOR COVID-19. GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE HERE AGAIN TONIGHT. YEAH. TO GARY'S OR TO YOUR QUESTION, YOU CAN LIMIT IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES THROUGH HOA DOCUMENTS IF IT'S FOR SALE OR FOR RENT IN REGARD TO WHAT A CUSTOMER CAN DO, BUT ALSO BACKING UP A LITTLE BIT TO, YOU KNOW, THESE HOMES ARE NOT TYPICALLY. AND IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE WOULDN'T EVEN PUT THOSE BYLAWS IN OUR HOA CONTRACT. I THINK PROBABLY A LOT OF OUR CONTRACTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, WE HAVE THOSE IN THERE. IT'S TYPICALLY GEARED TOWARDS A MORE AFFORDABLE PRODUCT WHEN WE DO THAT, BECAUSE THE MORE INVESTORS ARE TYPICALLY INTERESTED IN THE MORE AFFORDABLE PRODUCT FROM A MORTGAGE STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, MORTGAGE REGULATIONS TO TO YOUR QUESTION, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T ALLOW SOMEONE TO TO NECESSARILY CLOSE ON A HOUSE AND THEN RENT IT RIGHT AWAY UNLESS THEY DISCLOSE THAT TO THEIR MORTGAGE LENDER, WHICH WOULD THEN REQUIRE DIFFERENT LTV REQUIREMENTS FOR THE LOAN, DIFFERENT DOWN PAYMENT, ETC. IN REGARDS TO THE SHEDS AND, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION AROUND, YOU KNOW, OUTDOOR SPACE AND WHERE FOLKS PUT THEIR PUT THEIR ITEMS. I MEAN, OUR GARAGE IS TYPICALLY HAVE ENOUGH SPACE, THE OUTDOOR SHEDS. IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE WOULDN'T ALLOW THEM SOMETIMES IN THE BYLAWS, IF WE DO ALLOW THEM, WE'LL PUT CERTAIN REGULATIONS AROUND WHAT THOSE HAVE TO LOOK LIKE, ETC. BUT THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED THROUGH REALLY YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT, BUILDING HOMES AND NEW COMMUNITIES AS MOST CUSTOMERS DON'T ACTUALLY WANT THE OUTDOOR SHED, THEY DON'T WANT THEIR NEIGHBORS TO HAVE IT. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T. WE'D WALK AROUND IT. THEY NO ONE PAINTS IT. THEY DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT THE SAME WAY THEY TAKE CARE OF A HOUSE.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, THERE THERE LIKELY WILL BE SOME LANGUAGE IN IN OUR HOA BYLAWS THAT RESTRICT, YOU KNOW, INVESTORS AND RENTING, BUT ALSO YOU'RE COVERED BY, YOU KNOW, MORTGAGE REGULATION THAT, YOU KNOW, NO ONE CAN JUST GO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, CLOSE ON 3.5% SAY THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE IN AND THEN, YOU KNOW, START RENTING IT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE WEEKS LATER, OKAY. AND THEN ONE, ONE LAST ONE. SO IN THE PRESENTATION YOU HAVE GIVEN US SOME DIFFERENT IDEAS OF WHAT IS ALLOWED. AND IS THERE ANYTHING AT ALL THAT YOU AS A DEVELOPER OR YOU AS A COMPANY ARE GOING TO PUT UP SOME KIND OF A COMMUNITY? NOT NECESSARILY A BUILDING, AND I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A SWIMMING POOL. YEAH, BUT SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE HAVE SEEN, THEY HAVE A NICE PLAYGROUND. THEY HAVE A NICE. PERGOLA OR SOME SORTS. ARE YOU

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YES, THERE IS SPACE FOR AND SO SOME OF THOSE AMENITIES POTENTIALLY CAN GO INTO THE PROPERTY. YEAH. GREAT QUESTION. YEAH. I MEAN WE WANT TO HIGHLY MONETIZE ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. IT'S TYPICALLY AMENITIES ARE TYPICALLY DIRECTLY CORRELATED WITH DENSITY. SO THE MORE DENSITY YOU GET THE MORE YOU CAN AFFORD TO PAY FOR MORE AMENITIES. THAT'S NOT ALWAYS TRUE, BUT JUST BACK OF THE NAPKIN. THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW THAT WORKS. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, I MEAN, THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 230 TO 250 HOMES WHEREVER IT LANDS. AND, YOU KNOW, LARGELY THEY'RE GOING TO BE FAMILIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE MOVING INTO THE COMMUNITY WITH CHILDREN, YOU KNOW? AND PART OF THAT IS WE NEED TO PROVIDE A SPACE FOR THOSE FAMILIES TO HANG OUT. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, WE WILL HAVE AMENITIES. TO GARY'S POINT EARLIER, WE'RE STILL KIND OF GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE PUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

BUT WE WILL. ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, WE WON'T WE'LL ABSOLUTELY HAVE AMENITIES THAT'S GOING TO MAKE A JOKE TO BE A TERRIBLE ONE, BUT WE'LL ABSOLUTELY HAVE AMENITIES. THERE'S SOME INTERNAL RESTRAINTS IN THE ORGANIZATION, WHICH KRISTEN, TO ATTEST TO, THAT THEY DON'T LET US DO DEVELOPMENTS WITHOUT AMENITIES. SO IT MAY NOT BE, YOU KNOW, CLUBHOUSE, POOL, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT. BUT YEAH, I MEAN, PLAYGROUND, YOU KNOW, WALKING TRAILS, MAYBE A GAZEBO AROUND THE THE PONDS, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT TO INCORPORATE, YOU KNOW, FAMILIES. ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY. WONDERFUL. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. YEP. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I DID WANT TO ADD A COUPLE POINTS. SO IN REGARD TO THE ENTRANCEWAY APPRECIATIVE OF THE COMMENTS.

SORRY. THE CONSIDERATION OF THE COMMENTS GIVEN IN OUR PREVIOUS MEETING. I HAD COMMENTED ON THE KIND OF THE HOMES THAT HAD JUST ABOUT SIX, 7 OR 8 HOMES THAT LINED THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY AND IT SUGGESTED MORE OF A GATEWAY TYPE ENTRANCE. AND YOU KNOW, THAT IS NOT AN ARBITRARY THOUGHT. I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF NOTE THAT IN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, MARYSVILLE NORTH, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO INDIVIDUALS ON COUNCIL. TO THE EXTENT THAT I'M AWARE ME AND ONE OTHER HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS PRIOR TO BEING PUT FORWARD TO PLANNING COMMISSION, AND VERY SIMILAR COMMENTS WERE PUT FORWARD, AND MUCH OF THE BASIS OF THAT IS WE'RE GOING THROUGH VISIONING PROCESS, AS YOU PROBABLY HAVE HEARD ABOUT OR READ ABOUT. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE VARIOUS ELEMENTS OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE I THINK, BEING DRAWN TOWARDS THAT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ENCOMPASSING MORE AND MORE CHARACTER AND DEFINING WHO MARYSVILLE IS. SO APPRECIATIVE OF THAT AND THE CONSIDERATION OF THE POINTS OF SAFETY, I THINK, WAS ANOTHER BIG TALKING POINT AT THE LAST TIME. SO A COUPLE THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY IF WE ARE ENTERTAINING ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATIONS OR POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS, THERE ARE THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT PORCH DEPTHS AND WHAT SHOULD A MINIMUM PORCH DEPTH BE? I THINK YOU HAD STATED FOUR FOOT. I THINK THE THE INTENT OF A LARGER PORCH DEPTH IS TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S AN ABILITY TO SIT ON YOUR FRONT PORCH, SAY HI TO THE PEDESTRIANS, SOCIALIZE WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS, MAKE IT A NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT ALSO NOT BE CROWDED OUT OF YOUR OWN FRONT PORCH BY SOMEONE TRYING TO PASS YOU AND GET ONTO THE SEAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS SIX FOOT DEPTH. THAT RIGHT DEPTH IS EIGHT FOOT DEPTH. WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITHIN A WORKING GROUP OF MEMBERS IN THAT POINT WAS VERY SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSED. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE BROUGHT IT FORWARD AS A CERTAIN OR SOLIDIFIED AMENDMENT TO ANY ZONING AT THIS POINT, BUT WE ARE DISCUSSING IT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER DISCUSS WITH OUR PLANNING STAFF HERE. OKAY. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT IS THE PITCH ON ROOFS WHERE WE'VE DISCUSSED WHAT PITCH IS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE AS A MINIMUM PITCH. SO OTHERWISE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT YOU'VE GIVEN. AND WE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WILL BE DISCUSSING AMENDMENTS AT THIRD READING. SO FOR WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE THE PUBLIC HERE IS IF AN AMENDMENT WERE TO PASS, I'M JUST GOING TO RESTATE THIS. IT GOES BACK TO SECOND READING. AND THEN THERE IS OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THAT TIME. AGAIN. SO TONIGHT'S NOT THE CLOSE OF PUBLIC COMMENT. ASSUMING IT GOES THAT ROUTE, I CAN'T PREDICT HOW A VOTE GOES, BUT THAT'S WHAT I CAN SAY. WE'RE

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AND I TALKED TO ASHLEY ABOUT. SORRY. BACKED UP ON THE HANDICAP DOOR. THAT'S THE SECOND TIME I'VE DONE THAT. I HAD A DOLLAR FOR EVERY TIME THAT'S HAPPENED. I FIGURED THIS OUT BY NOW. I DID IT IN PLANNING COMMISSION, TOO. I TALKED TO ASHLEY ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER. WE WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET CHANGES BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. WE'RE GOING TO HOPEFULLY GET THEM OUT BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING. WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO DO THAT. OKAY. YEAH. OUR OUR INTENT IS TO GET EVERYTHING TO YOU AND TO STAY ON THAT MEETING ON THE 22ND. OKAY. SO THIS WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING VOTE ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2025 FOR THE AMENDMENTS. LIKELY THERE WILL BE SOME. YES. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO SECOND READING IF THE COUNCIL APPROVES THAT. SO IT WON'T BE A FINAL VOTE UNTIL. YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO GO TO A SECOND, THEN A THIRD AGAIN. THERE'S A MOTION TO AMEND PASSES AND THE LEGISLATION AS AMENDED TO COME BACK THAT NIGHT 22ND FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ON LEGISLATION AS AMENDED. AND THEN IT WOULD THERE WOULDN'T BE A VOTE ON THE AMENDED LEGISLATION THAT NIGHT UNLESS COUNCIL WAIT FOR THE READING.

OH, OKAY. SO ORDINARY COURSE OF BUSINESS WOULD COME BACK. THIRD READING ON THE FIRST IN THE FIRST MEETING OCTOBER IN OCTOBER. OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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AMENDMENT TO PART 11. GLOSSARY OF TERMS. NO CITIZEN COMMENTS. COUNCIL. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR

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SECTION 1141 ADMINISTRATION AND PROCEDURES AND SECTION 1141.37 ZONING AMENDMENT NOTICE TO PROPERTY OWNERS BY COUNCIL ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING FURTHER. CITIZENS. COUNCIL. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING VOTE ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2025. ORDINANCE D ORDINANCE D SECOND READING

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[01:35:01]

[Discuss Submission of Letter to OHFA]

THE LETTER NEEDS TO BE SIGNED BY AT LEAST A MAJORITY OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO IF IT'S IF IT'S VOTED, IF YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF OF SENDING THIS LETTER OR ANY LETTER, THEN WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU SIGN THE DOCUMENT TONIGHT, OKAY. THE PARCELS THAT WERE MENTIONED ARE UP ON THE SCREEN NOW. SO THAT IS WHAT LITTLE INFORMATION WE KNOW AT THIS TIME. AND AND JUST ANOTHER I GUESS ANOTHER POINT THERE IS THE THE NEW CULVERS IS AT THE SOUTH END OF THAT VERTICAL PARCEL. SO PRESUMABLY THE DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO PARCEL OFF THEIR, THEIR PARCEL IN ORDER TO DEVELOP. SO. AND OF COURSE, THE LETTER, THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PROCEED, WE CAN GO THROUGH THE LETTER, EACH ITEM ON THE LETTER. IT'S IT'S. SO HAVING PARTICIPATED IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE WORKING GROUP AS WELL AS A COUPLE OTHER MEMBERS UP HERE, I WOULD JUST LET OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW. YOU KNOW, WE ARE LIMITED TO THE EXTENT THAT WE COULD DISCUSS THIS AHEAD OF TIME, BUT I THINK WE HAD HAD, I DON'T KNOW, AN HOUR AND A HALF, TWO HOURS WORTH OF DIALOG ON THIS ITEM. SO I WOULD SAY THAT THERE WAS CAREFUL CONSIDERATION, YOU KNOW, BEING GIVEN TO TO WHAT'S BEFORE US. AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE'S INFORMATION AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH INFORMATION. SO I WOULD SAY IF, IF WE WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, MAYBE TO START OFF WITH, WE COULD DO THAT. AND THEN IF WE COULD GO THROUGH THE POINTS AND JUST KIND OF DISCUSS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR ABOUT OUR OBJECTIONS AND REALLY WHAT THE CONCERN POINT IS, WE COULD WE COULD GO THAT ROUTE KIND OF AT A HIGHER LEVEL UNLESS THERE'S FURTHER QUESTIONS. ANY ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS. OKAY. I THINK SO. GOING FROM NUMBER ONE, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT ACCESS MANAGEMENT HERE. CORRECT? YES. ANOTHER POINT OF ORDER. WITH RESPECT TO THE OBJECTIONS, DEVELOPERS ARE ARE OBLIGATED TO SEND US A RESPONSE, NOT NOT SO WITH THE COMMENTS. BUT SO WE YOU KNOW, WE WERE VERY CAREFUL I THINK IN IN DIFFERENTIATING WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS OBJECTION FROM CONCERN. SO YEAH WE CAN WE CAN GO DOWN THE LIST OF OBJECTIONS THAT ARE FOR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ NUMBER ONE. JUST MAYBE YOU COULD SUMMARIZE. OKAY. SO FIRST TOUCHES ON

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AND YOU KNOW SO BASED ON THIS CURRENT CONFIGURATION OF THE ROADWAY NETWORK, WE'RE DRY. WE CAN'T SUPPORT THE LOCATION, THE ACCESS DRIVE WHICH WOULD LEAD TO DECREASED TRAFFIC SAFETY.

THE IDEA HERE TOO IS WHAT IMPACT WHAT NEGATIVE IMPACT WILL THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT HAVE ON THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S THE ULTIMATE QUESTION. AND I THINK IN THE CASE OF NUMBER ONE, IT'S IT'S IT'S THE DECREASED TRAFFIC SAFETY THAT WOULD RESULT FROM THE ACCESS DRIVE. THE POTENTIAL ACCESS ACCESS ONTO THE PUBLIC. JEREMY, OF COURSE, CAN SPEAK BETTER TO THIS ISSUE THAN I CAN. SO AND I THINK POINTS TWO AND THREE KIND OF FEED INTO ONE. RIGHT. SO RIGHT. BUT THE PROPOSED ACCESS WOULD BE ON THE HORIZONTAL PORTION THERE. RIGHT AT THAT AT THAT JUST JUST HOW SQUARE DRIVES CONFIGURED. IT'S TOUGH TO FIT A DRIVEWAY IN THERE. AND KEEPING FAR ENOUGH SPACE AWAY FROM THE INTERSECTION TO WHERE WE CAN MAKE IT SAFE. OBJECTION TO ESSENTIALLY IS, HEY, YOU'RE ADDING MORE BUILDINGS AND UNITS, THEREFORE MORE TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA ALONG ALONG DELAWARE AVENUE. SPECIFICALLY, EVEN THE SQUARE DRIVE INTERSECTION WHERE, YOU KNOW, REAL SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE ON THE THE WEST SIDE BY, YOU KNOW, BURGER KING AND MCDONALD'S, IT'S A 90 DEGREE TURN REAL CLOSE. SO, YOU KNOW, THE FURTHER CARS BACK UP JUST THERE COULD BE SAFETY ISSUES OR REQUIRE SOME ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS. OBJECTION THREE DOES RELATE TO TRAFFIC AS WELL. BUT PRIMARILY KEITH AND HIS TEAM ON BEING ABLE TO GET, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF FIRE APPARATUS OR SAFETY CONCERNS BACK THERE. WE TYPICALLY ON DEVELOPMENTS THIS LARGE REQUIRE TWO WAYS IN YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY WAYS AROUND THAT BY BUILDING A BOULEVARD OR, YOU KNOW, COULD THEY WORK WITH THE I GUESS NOW COMPLETED CULVER'S AND GETTING AN ACCESS DRIVE OFF OF THAT PORTION. SO AT LEAST THERE'S TWO WAYS IN INTO THE SITE. SO THAT THAT ADDRESSES OBJECTIONS ONE THROUGH THREE. THE FINAL ONE WAS JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT OUR GIS. CURRENTLY THERE'S NO PUBLIC DRAINAGE EASEMENTS IN THE AREA, AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO DRAIN THEIR PROPERTY OFF SITE MORE THAN LIKELY OR TO A PRIVATE SEWER SYSTEM. BUT IT'S NOT ANYTHING THE CITY CONTROLS. SO AS PART OF OUR ENGINEERING APPROVAL PROCESS, WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S BUTTONED UP BEFORE APPROVING IT. AND THAT WOULD BE PRIMARILY FOR THEIR DETENTION RETENTION POND AND BEING ABLE TO MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT, WHICH WOULD THEN REQUIRE THEM GETTING MORE THAN LIKELY AN OFFSITE EASEMENT OR AGREEMENT WITH ONE OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. IT APPEARS THAT AND AGAIN, I JUST TURNED ON OUR TOPOGRAPHY. IT LOOKS LIKE IT WANTS TO GO NORTH UP INTO THAT PORTION OF MARYSVILLE EAST. AND I GUESS THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THESE OBJECTIONS ARE BASED ON THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE BASED ON THIS CONFIGURATION. IF AND THE WE, WE DEFINE SORT OF WITHIN THE GROUP. AN OBJECTION WOULD BE THAT IF THIS CONCERN IS NOT ADDRESSED, THEN THE THE DEVELOPMENT CAN'T BE APPROVED. SO FROM AN ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC SERVICE STANDPOINT, SO THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY THE DEVELOPER MAY HAVE RESPONSES THAT ARE ADEQUATE. BUT BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW, IT JUST COULDN'T GET APPROVED UNLESS THESE CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED. AND THEN SORRY. GO AHEAD, MR. BURTON. YOU WERE GOING TO GET INTO THE CONCERNS. I WAS GOING TO I WAS GOING TO SAY THEN THE BELOW THIS IS THE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS WHICH OUTLINES MUCH OF WHAT IS REQUIRED BY OUR PROCESS. BUT I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT POINTS FOR US TO CONSIDER ARE THE OBJECTIONS, AS ARE STATED ON THIS, CORRECT? YES. AND WITH THE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS, I GUESS EVEN ONE AT THE OR THE BOTTOM OF PAGE ONE. THERE ARE A LOT OF APPROVALS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF CITY COUNCIL'S PURVIEW THAT WOULD NEED TO OCCUR TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE DENSITY COUNT THAT THEY PROPOSED HAPPEN, LET ALONE EVEN THE USE ON THIS PROPERTY. THEY WOULD NEED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION. SO IT IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS RUBBER STAMPED. THERE'S STILL A HANDFUL OF HURDLES THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO EVEN, YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY REVISE OR EVEN SUBMIT A SITE PLAN THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO JUMP THROUGH BEFORE IT BE APPROVED. AND THESE APPROVALS ARE NEEDED FOR 120 UNIT DEVELOPMENT AT THAT SITE. AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY FAIR TO STATE THIS IS 7.7 ACRES OF OF LAND. SO IT'S SOMETHING PRETTY CLOSE. YEAH. SO THEY WOULD NEED 16 UNITS AN ACRE JUST THAT YOU HAVE REPRESENTATIVE I BELIEVE THE TRAILS THAT WEAVER RIDGE

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THAT'S BEFORE COUNCIL, AND IF SO, WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE CHANGES ONE BY ONE. IF NOT, THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON THE LETTER. I DON'T SEE ANY IF. DO OTHER MEMBERS SEE ANY CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE? IT COVERS A LOT OF OUR DETAILS AND NEEDS WHICH CREATED.

YES. OKAY, OKAY, I THINK WE ARE OKAY TO DO ROLL CALL. SO IT WOULD JUST BE A YES. WE'D NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LETTER. THAT'S BEFORE COUNCIL AGAIN. IT'S SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2025 TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE DIRECTOR OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, THE OHIO HOUSING FINANCE AGENCY. WITH RESPECT TO THE PARK RIDGE MULTIFAMILY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, COMMUNITY SQUARE DRIVE. AND AGAIN, THE PARCEL WITH THE PARCELS ARE 2900160100000 AND 2900210010000. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION. COUNCIL MOTION. I HAVE APPRECIATION FOR THE MOTION, BUT I WILL NOT REPEAT IT FOR YOU. THANK YOU. WE DID HAVE TWO MOTIONS, ONE BY COUNCILMAN REMES AND ONE BY COUNCILMAN BURBY. I THINK MARK MIGHT HAVE BEAT YOU TO THE TO THE PUNCH HERE. SO HE COULD. OKAY. COUNCILMAN REEVES, MR. WOLFF. YES, MR. BURBY. YES. MR. HUNTER.

YES. MR. REMES YES. MISS. KRAMER. YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. SIX. YES. COMMENTS OF THE CITY

[COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL PERSONS AND GENERAL DISCUSSION]

COUNCILMAN BORDNER, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER. THANKS. COUNCILMAN WOLFF, I WILL.

SECOND COUNCILMAN REAMS COMMENTS ON THE FESTIVE FAIR UPTOWN. IT WAS IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE AND I KNOW THE KIND OF SHUTTLE BUSSES WAS WAS NEW. AND WE PARKED OVER AT THE FAIRGROUNDS AND HAD THAT EXPERIENCE, SO IT WAS NICE. I WAS SURPRISED WHEN A BIG CHARTER BUS PULLED UP TO TAKE EVERYONE OVER THERE. AND I'LL TELL YOU, THE DRIVER OF THAT BUS WAS ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE CITY STREETS AND DIDN'T, AT LEAST FROM WHAT I SEEN, DIDN'T BUMP INTO ANYTHING, DIDN'T RUN OVER THE CURBS, DID A GOOD JOB. I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT. I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR URBAN FORESTER, ANDY EVANS. EARLIER LAST WEEK, I

[01:50:04]

AND AGAIN, IF YOU THINK THE HARDSHIP FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT, AND THEN IN THE IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE THAT WE COULD SAY, HEY, WE WE DO HAVE A ROUNDABOUT, COULD HAVE BEEN A T-BONE. WE DON'T KNOW. YEAH. WE CAN ONLY GUESS AT THAT ONE. BUT WHEN PEOPLE ARE OBJECTING TO ROUNDABOUTS, THEY THEY ARE DEFINITELY LIFE SAVERS. AND IT HAS IT HAS REALLY PROVEN WITH THIS PARTICULAR ROUNDABOUT THAT WE JUST OPENED UP LAST WEEK. SO THAT WAS MY COMMENT FOR TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO MY COMMENTS ARE SIMPLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE CITIZENS WHO COME OUT TO SPEAK TONIGHT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.

CERTAINLY A LOT ON A LOT OF PEOPLE'S MINDS. WE HEARD ABOUT THE SAINT JOHN'S SCHOOL, TWO CHILDREN WHO WERE IN SAINT JOHN'S SCHOOL FOR A PORTION OF THEIR ELEMENTARY EXPERIENCE, AND IT IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR MY CHILDREN. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, I WILL STILL CONTINUE TO REVIEW THE AND, YOU KNOW, VOTE WILL BE CAST IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT WE ARE OBLIGATED TO DO AS COUNCIL PERSONS AND CONSIDER THE MATTERS OF CITY BUSINESS AND ZONING REGARDING THE TRAFFIC FATALITIES. YEAH, MY MY CONDOLENCES GO OUT TO THOSE THAT WERE IMPACTED NEGATIVELY OVER THE WEEKEND. BEING WITHIN THE AUTO INDUSTRY FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS NOW, I CAN SAY THAT WHEN YOU'RE IN THE INDUSTRY, THERE ARE CERTAIN DRIVERS AND ONE OF THE BIG DRIVERS OF THE ADVANCEMENT OF AUTOMOBILES IS THE ADVANCEMENT OF A OF A MINDSET OR A GOAL OF ZERO FATALITIES, THAT SOMEDAY WE COULD BE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE FAMILY DOES NOT HAVE TO ENDURE A TRAGEDY DUE TO AN ACCIDENT OF A VEHICLE. I HAVE HAD SOME EXPOSURE TO, YOU KNOW, SEE SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENTS, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH LEVEL TO WHAT MAYBE THE GENERAL PUBLIC SEES IS JUST PART OF MY MY WORK. AND IT IS AMAZING WHAT HAS BEEN DONE. I LOOK FORWARD SO MUCH TO WHAT HAS YET TO BE DONE. AND I THINK WITH THE ADVANCEMENTS OF, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, IT IS HELPING PAVE THE WAY, BUT ALSO TECHNOLOGIES LIKE RADAR, LIDAR AND JUST VISUAL INTERPRETATION OF DATA AND VEHICLE TO VEHICLE COMMUNICATION. AND MARYSVILLE, WE ARE A CONNECTED CITY AND JUST PROUD TO BE PART OF THAT. AND I HOPE WE HAVE A BRIGHT FUTURE WITH ALL OF THAT. AND WE CAN AVOID TRAGEDIES AND NOT HAVING TO DEAL WITH THOSE TYPES OF TRAGEDIES IN THE FUTURE. AND I HAD MISSED A FAIR. AND THIS I WAS OUT OF TOWN AND NEAR KINGS ISLAND THIS WEEKEND, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY THAT. AND BUT I THINK I WORE MY SHOES DOWN A BIT AND GOT SOME GOOD EXERCISE. BUT BOY WAS I TIRED WHEN THE WEEKEND WAS DONE. BUT

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WELL, IT'S A TAKE OUT POTENTIAL. SO IT'S JUST A MOTION TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

OKAY, I'LL. I'LL SECOND. SO HANK HAS MOTIONED TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. THEN COUNCILMAN BORDNER HAS SECONDED. ROLL CALL, MR. YES. MR. HUNTER? YES. MR. RAINES? YES. MISS.

KRAMER. YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. WOLFE? YES.

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