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          I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2025 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WE WILL RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND STAY STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. 
          ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALMIGHTY GOD, WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND ITS CITIZENS. AMEN. AMEN. ROLL CALL, MR. BORDNER. HERE. 
          MR. WOLF. HERE. MR. BURBY. MR. BURGER HERE. MR. HUNTER HERE. MR. REAMES HERE. MISS KRAMER 
          [APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
HERE. IS THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE AUGUST 25TH, 2025 CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES. HEARING NONE. IS THERE A MOTION? MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING. MINUTES FROM AUGUST 25TH, 2025. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. IS THERE A CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS NEED TO BE MADE TO THE SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2025 CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES. MR. PRESIDENT, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SEPTEMBER 8TH CITY COUNCIL 
          [ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]
MEETING. MINUTES. THANK YOU. STEVEN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ADMINISTRATION REPORT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. A FEW THINGS TONIGHT. I WANTED TO START OUT BY SAYING IT'S GREAT TO BE BACK FROM JAPAN. TRIP. WE TOOK. DONALD, MYSELF, ERIC PHILLIPS, THE CHIEF, AND KEEP GOING. KEEPING HIS LAST NAME. ERIC. PRONOUNCE IT. THANK YOU. WE SPENT, OF COURSE, TEN DAYS THERE. I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW YOU TO KNOW THAT WE PLAN TO DO A PRESENTATION ON THE TRIP AT THE OCTOBER 13TH MEETING. SO WE POURED OUT THE DETAILS. BUT I WOULD SAY IT WAS VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL TRIP. SECOND, SECONDLY, AND I'M GOING TO GET INTO A COUPLE THINGS. IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE WE'RE THERE ALREADY. BUT WE ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 5TH, WE HAVE MARYSVILLE IN UPTOWN MARYSVILLE. SO SATURDAY, OCTOBER 25TH FROM 10 A.M. TO 4 P.M. THAT EVENT WILL BE TAKING GOING ON IN OUR UPTOWN. TRICK OR TREATING WILL BE FROM 10 A.M. TO NOON. THERE WILL BE CANDY BOOTH VENDORS, COSTUME CONTESTS, PUMPKIN PAINTING, AND MORE. JUST A LOT OF HALLOWEEN FUN WHILE EXPLORING ALL THAT UPTOWN MARYSVILLE HAS TO OFFER. 
          SO THAT AGAIN, MARYSVILLE. SATURDAY, OCTOBER 25TH FROM 10 A.M. TO FOUR. ALSO AS A REMINDER, OUR COMMUNITY. TRICK OR TREAT WILL BE FRIDAY, OCTOBER 31ST FROM 6 TO 8 P.M. 
          SO FRIDAY, OCTOBER 31ST ON HALLOWEEN FROM 6 TO 8 P.M. OUR TRICK OR TREAT. AND WITH THAT, I'LL SEND IT DOWN TO JEREMY FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS UPDATES. YEAH. THANKS, TERRY. 
          CITY STREET CREWS CONTINUE WITH TRAIL WORK AND MISCELLANEOUS TASKS AROUND THE SHOP, INCLUDING VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AND SIMILAR TO TERRY, PREPARING FOR WINTER EVENTS AND GETTING THE PLOWS CLOSE TO READY PARKS. DUE TO THE PENDING FORECAST, BRANDON AND HIS CREWS HAVE BEEN PERFORMING SEEDING AND FERTILIZER WORK, AND OUR EVENT STAFF IS PREPARING FOR THE UPCOMING 2026 EVENT SCHEDULE. ON THE WATER SIDE, CONTRACTORS INSTALLED SOME PARKING LOT LIGHTING AT THE RESERVOIR AND CAMERAS WILL BE ADDED TO THAT INFRASTRUCTURE LATER THIS WEEK. 
          THERE WAS A WATER MAIN BREAK THIS MORNING ON WAGON WHEEL THAT OUR CREWS ARE ADDRESSING, AND A NUMBER I GIVE EVERY ONE OF THESE COUNCIL MEETINGS. LAST WEEK, OUR AVERAGE WATER PRODUCED AT THE PLANT WAS 5.47 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, WITH A PEAK OF 5.83. WITH THAT, WITH TODAY'S RAIN, WE'RE HOPING THAT NUMBER GOES DOWN BY 2,025%. SOMEWHERE IN THERE, GET GET SOMEWHERE IN THE THE LOW FOURS IS WHAT OUR WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE. THE CREWS PERFORMED PUMP STATION MAINTENANCE MAINTENANCE AT A HANDFUL OF PUMP STATIONS AND ALSO PERFORMED SOME GREASE TRAP CLEANING AT THE CITY FACILITIES. AND THEN FINALLY, WE'RE MEETING WITH THE CONTRACTOR THIS WEEK TO PERFORM AN HVAC RISK ASSESSMENT OUT AT THE WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ASHLEY FOR SOME 
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CONSTRUCTION UPDATES. THANKS, JEREMY. FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, OBVIOUSLY ALL CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES AND PROJECT SCHEDULES ARE WEATHER AND CONTRACTOR DEPENDENT, BUT WE HAVE THE FIRST ONE FOR WEST FIFTH STREET IMPROVEMENTS, THOSE BEGINNING ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20TH 24TH. OUR CONTRACTOR WILL BE GETTING CURB REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST FIFTH STREET. AND DURING THIS PHASE OF WORK, THE WESTBOUND LANE OF WEST FIFTH STREET WILL BE CLOSED TO TRAFFIC BETWEEN GROVE STREET AND MAPLE. WESTBOUND WILL BE DETOURED TO NORTH MAPLE STREET AND WEST FOURTH STREET, AND EASTBOUND WILL CONTINUE TO BE MAINTAINED IN. THIS PHASE IS EXPECTED TO TAKE APPROXIMATELY 2 TO 3 WEEKS TO COMPLETE FOR CARRIE JACOBS AND CHERRY STREET SANITARY IMPROVEMENTS. THIS WORK CONTINUES ON NORTH CHERRY STREET. IT REMAINS CLOSED TO THROUGH TRAFFIC BETWEEN EAST FOURTH STREET AND LAKEVIEW DRIVE. DURING THIS PHASE OF THE WORK. WE ALSO HAVE THE RESERVOIR CONNECTOR TRAIL PHASE TWO, WHICH CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES? OUTSTANDING ITEMS INCLUDE THE INSTALLATION OF THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING SIGNAL. AND LASTLY, OUR 2025 PAVING PROGRAM ALSO CONTINUES AND PAVING OPERATIONS WILL BEGIN IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS. AND THAT IS IT FOR ENGINEERING UPDATES. TWO OTHER ITEMS, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST WANTED TO INFORM COUNCIL THAT THIS MORNING I OFFICIALLY SIGNED THE AGREEMENT WITH MARYSVILLE SCHOOL SYSTEM ON OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER PROGRAM. 
          IT STARTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR. THE AGREEMENT IS IN PLACE AND ALL SIGNS OF THE EARLY PART OF THE SCHOOL YEAR ARE GOING VERY WELL. JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT. 
          THE SECOND ITEM I WANTED TO REPORT OUT TONIGHT. THIS IS WHAT WILL BE THE LAST MEETING THAT JENNIFER WILL BE COVERING, BECAUSE MACKENZIE WILL BE BACK NEXT MONDAY. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. WELCOME. THE WORK SHE'S DONE FOR NOT ONLY IN OUR OFFICE, BUT TO COVER THESE MEETINGS. AND TIM AND I WERE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT TODAY. YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN IT. 
          THESE LAST FEW MEETINGS HAVE NOT BEEN THE EASIEST MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD OVER A SPAN OF TIME. AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK JENNIFER FOR HER WORK AND FILLING IN. LOOKING FORWARD TO MACKENZIE'S RETURN. I THINK JENNIFER'S LOOKING FORWARD TO MACKENZIE'S RETURN, AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK HER TONIGHT FOR HER COVERAGE FOR THIS. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANYTHING? YEAH, WE HAVE ONE. ASHLEY MAYBE YOU KNOW AND I'LL ASK UNTIL IT'S UP. THE CROSSWALK AT PROFESSIONAL AND CHESTNUT. DO WE KNOW WHEN THAT'S GOING TO BE INSTALLED ON THAT? I THINK I WAS SUPPOSED TO CHECK ON THAT. YEAH, LET ME CHECK. THAT'S OKAY. WE COULD PROBABLY GET AN ANSWER FOR YOU EVEN THIS EVENING. YEAH. SO LET US LET US DO A LITTLE TEXT MESSAGING. TEXT MESSAGING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? I YOU KNOW, THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY IS THAT I WAS ABLE TO DRIVE PAST THE RESERVOIR THIS WEEKEND. AND I SAW THE NEW STEPS. IT LOOKED REALLY GOOD. IT'S GREAT TO HAVE A PATHWAY THROUGH THERE THAT LEADS PEOPLE TO THE RESERVOIR. NOW, I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE, IF I CAN GET A TREE PLANTED SOMEWHERE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE A TREE PLANTED BECAUSE THAT'S A LARGE I MEAN, YOU GOT TO THINK ABOUT SOMEONE WALKING FROM MILL VALLEY, THEN YOU'RE WALKING PAST THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, ACROSS THE FIELD, UP THOSE STAIRS. I MEAN, THAT'S A LOT OF SUN AND PUT TREES ON THE TANK. NO, NO. BUT LIKE OUT THERE, MAYBE WHERE THEIR PATIO IS, WHERE THE BENCHES ARE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD PUT ONE OUT THERE, BUT THEN ALSO, IS THERE A WATER SOURCE? I THINK YOU GOT THE PERFECT PERSON SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT. BRANDON MOORE IS SITTING OUT HERE. OH, YEAH. THERE YOU GO. AND THEN I DON'T KNOW. AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S LIKE A WATER SOURCE OUT THERE, BUT LIKE A FOUNTAIN OR SOMEWHERE THEY CAN PEOPLE CAN FILL UP A WATER WATER BOTTLE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT I JUST HAPPENED TO DRIVE THROUGH THERE AND JUST DRIVING THROUGH THERE. IT WAS THE STUFF. IT WAS LIKE 93 ON SATURDAY. SO I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT IF PEOPLE WALKING THERE, THAT'S LIKE, THAT'S GOING TO BE IT'S A LARGE WALK, ESPECIALLY THAT STAIRCASE. SO BUT ANYWAY, HEY, IF YOU CAN WALK THAT, MORE POWER TO YOU, I'M TELLING YOU. SO ANYWAY. AND THEN ALSO TO YOU, MISS BROCK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND WORKING WITH US. AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR US BECAUSE IT'S NOT YOUR EVERYDAY SCHEDULE. SO ROUTINES. SO WE'RE GRATEFUL. 
          [REPORT OF CLERK OF COUNCIL]
THANK YOU. REPORTED CLERK OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I DO HAVE SOMETHING. 
          TONIGHT. WE HAVE TWO REQUESTS FOR LIQUOR PERMITS. ONE FROM TACO MARYSVILLE LLC. TACO PROS AND TEED UP GOLF AND BAR. CHIEF BROOKS DOES NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTION OBJECTIONS? DOES 
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COUNCIL HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANYTHING? SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T 
          [HEARING OF CITIZENS]
OKAY. THANK YOU THANK YOU. HEARING OF CITIZENS. THIS IS A PART OF THE MEETING WHERE ANY CITIZEN CAN SPEAK. THAT'S THAT'S HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TONIGHT'S AGENDA. OKAY. JUST STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME FOR PUBLIC RECORD, PLEASE. HI. GOOD EVENING. I'M MARK MORAN, AND IT'S AT 620 WAGONWHEEL. AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO POSSIBLY CHECK INTO PUTTING A CROSSWALK FROM MCCARTHY PARK OVER TO LAKEVIEW DRIVE AND ALSO CHERRY STREET. RIGHT NOW, IT'S USED AS A A BUS STOP FOR A LOT OF THE STUDENTS, AND A LOT OF KIDS HAVE TO SCRAMBLE ACROSS. WHAT HAPPENS? A LOT OF CARS COME OFF A WALL, THOUGH. THEY CONTINUE TO GO 45 TO 55 MILES AN HOUR INSTEAD OF SLOWING DOWN TO THE 35 MILES AN HOUR UNTIL THEY GET UP TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS. SO THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER. THANK YOU. WE'LL CHECK THAT OUT, MR. PRESIDENT. 
          WE'LL TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THAT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THIS 
          [PLANNING COMMISION REPORT]
EVENING? HEARING? NONE. PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. SO FOR TONIGHT'S PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT, YOU'LL SEE A HANDFUL OF THESE ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING. SO THOSE ITEMS WERE APPROVED. AND SO THOSE WILL BE ON THE AGENDA HERE COMING UP SHORTLY AFTER OUR THIRD READINGS. BUT FOR THE OTHER ITEMS, WE HAD TWO THAT WERE TABLED. ONE WAS TO HEAR AN APPLICATION FOR PART 11 ZONING CODE. SO THIS WAS THE OPEN SPACE REGULATIONS FOR SECTION 1123 .19 THAT WAS TABLED, AS WELL AS SOME RESIDENTIAL ARCHITECTURAL MODIFICATIONS IN SECTION 1107 .19. SO THOSE ITEMS ARE GOING BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION IN OCTOBER. AND THEN IF THEY ARE APPROVED AT THAT TIME, WE'LL PROCEED ON TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THOSE. AND THAT WAS IT FOR PLANNING COMMISSION. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS GABER? I HAD ONE QUESTION ON ORDINANCE. SO ORDINANCE G TALKS ABOUT TO APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION THAT NO AMENDMENT BE MADE. SO YOU SAID EVERYTHING WAS APPROVED. THIS WAS APPROVED THAT NO NO CHANGE. THAT ONE WILL. SORRY. THAT ONE WILL BE COMING THROUGH TONIGHT AT PLANNING COMMISSION. BUT YES, THAT ONE WAS APPROVED WITH NO RECOMMENDED WITH NO CHANGES. SO. WE CAN WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT DURING THAT AGENDA ITEM IF 
          [DESIGN REVIEW BOARD REPORT]
THAT'S OKAY. YEAH OKAY. HEARING NONE. DESIGN REVIEW BOARD REPORT. YEAH. SO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, WE HAD A COUPLE HOME IMPROVEMENT GRANTS WHICH WITH WHICH HAVE BEEN GOING VERY WELL THIS YEAR. SO THE FIRST ONE WAS FOR 275 WEST EIGHTH STREET. 
          THAT WAS APPROVED, AS WELL AS 222 GRAND AVENUE ALSO APPROVED. AND THEN FOR SOME OTHER AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE HAD, WE HAD AN EXTERIOR PLAN APPLICATION AT WOODSIDE. SO THIS IS TO ADD A PATHWAY AND SOME WORKOUT EQUIPMENT BACK BEHIND THOSE EXISTING APARTMENTS OUT THERE. 
          AND SO THAT WAS ALSO APPROVED THAT APPLICATION AS WELL. WE HAD A SIGN APPLICATION THAT WAS ADDED TO THE AGENDA FOR THE. OLIO DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ON COLEMAN'S CROSSING. I THINK POTBELLY'S HAD THERE WAS A ARTICLE ABOUT POP BELLIES POSSIBLY GOING IN THERE. SO THAT SIGN WAS ADDED TO THE AGENDA AND WAS ALSO APPROVED. AND THAT WAS IT. WE ALSO HAD A DISCUSSION ITEM ABOUT SECOND CHANCES FOR SOME FACADE CHANGES, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO THE BOARD FOR AN ACTUAL MORE, MORE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE VOTE HERE IN OCTOBER AS WELL. AND THAT WAS IT FOR THIS EVENING. AND THAT'S THE THAT'S THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE GOODIES FOR. MORE GOODIES GALORE USED TO BE. NO, ACTUALLY THE ONE RIGHT HERE ON MAIN STREET. YES. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IS 
          [PROCLAMATION]
THERE ANYBODY HERE TONIGHT ON THE BEHALF OF CHILDHOOD CANCER AWARENESS MONTH? HEARING NONE. 
          SEEING NONE. I GUESS I'M GOING TO READ THIS FROM MY FROM UP HERE THEN. SEPTEMBER SEPTEMBER 
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2025, 2025 CHILDHOOD CANCER AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. WHEREAS CANCER IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH IN CHILDREN, AND WHEREAS THE CAUSE OF MOST CHILDHOOD CANCERS ARE UNKNOWN, AND WHEREAS 1 IN 85 CHILDREN IN THE UNITED STATES WILL BE DIAGNOSED BY THEIR 20TH BIRTHDAY AND WHEREAS THERE ARE THERE THERE ARE ABOUT 40,000 CHILDREN ON ACTIVE TREATMENT AT ANY GIVEN TIME. AND WHEREAS THE AVERAGE AGE OF DIAGNOSIS IS SIX YEARS OLD COMPARED TO 66 YEARS OLD FOR ADULTS. CANCER DIAGNOSIS AND WHEREAS 80% OF CHILDHOOD CANCER PATIENTS ARE DIAGNOSED LATE WITH THE DISEASE, AND WHEREAS ON AVERAGE THERE HAVE BEEN A 0.6% INCREASE PER YEAR SINCE THE MID 1970S, RESULTING IN AN OVERALL INCREASE OF 24% OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS. AND WHEREAS THE NATIONAL CANCER INSTITUTE OR RECOGNIZES THE UNIQUE RESEARCH NEEDS OF CHILDHOOD CANCER AND THE ASSOCIATED NEED FOR INCREASED FUNDING TO CARRY OUT TO CARRY THIS OUT. AND WHEREAS HUNDREDS OF NON-PROFITS, ORGANIZATIONS AT LOCAL AND NATIONAL LEVELS, INCLUDING THE FRIENDS FAITH FOUNDATION, ARE HELPING CHILDREN WITH CANCER AND FAMILIES COPE THROUGH EDUCATIONAL, EMOTIONAL AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT. AND WHEREAS, RESEARCHERS AND HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS WORK, WORK DILIGENTLY, DEDICATING THEIR EXPERTISE TO TREAT AND CURE CHILDREN WITH CANCER. AND WHEREAS TOO MANY CHILDREN ARE AFFECTED BY THIS DEADLY DISEASE, AND MORE AND MORE MUST BE DONE TO RAISE AWARENESS TO FIND A CURE. NOW, THEREFORE, I, DONALD BERGER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, OHIO, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 2025 AS CHILD CHILDHOOD CANCER AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. SO IS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT THIS INTO THE MEETING? MINUTES? MISTER PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE PROCLAMATION TO THE MEETING MINUTES. ALL IN FAVOR? THANK YOU GUYS. RESOLUTION A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE 
          [Res. A]
PARKS AND RECREATION. MASTER PLAN ADMINISTRATION. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION. I THINK JEREMY WILL KICK IT OFF AND AND THEN KIND OF TAG TEAM IT TO A COUPLE PEOPLE HERE THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. JUST WANT TO START OFF BY INTRODUCING TRAVIS. HE'S WITH BRANDON WHO'S OUR PARKS AND REC SUPERINTENDENT. THIS IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, THEIR PLAN. THEY WERE THE BRAINS BEHIND THE OPERATION. I JUST TRIED TO MAKE SURE THINGS STAYED ON SCHEDULE. SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PROS. THEY COMPLETED OUR 2017 PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN. SO THIS WAS FOR THE MOST PART AN UPDATE. BUT OBVIOUSLY IN THE PARKS AND REC WORLD, SOMEWHAT OF AN IT WORLD, THINGS CHANGE PRETTY QUICKLY. WE STARTED THIS OFF IN AUGUST OF 2024. SINCE THEN, TRAVIS HAS MET WITH PARKS AND REC COMMISSION ABOUT FOUR TIMES, AND HE'S MET WITH CITY COUNCIL ABOUT TWO TIMES AT THE JOINT MEETING. AND THEN AS WELL, I BELIEVE, AT A WORK SESSION. SO WHAT WHAT TRAVIS IS GOING TO DO IS JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF OF WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN AND HOPEFULLY AT THE END, IF YOU GUYS HAVE COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE AT THAT TIME. SO TURN IT OVER TO TRAVIS. GREAT. OKAY. DO I NEED TO IS THERE A CLICKER. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU AGAIN. AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE THE MASTER PLAN. WE'VE THOROUGHLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH MARYSVILLE, JEREMY AND BRANDON AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC TO WORK WITH. SO AS JEREMY MENTIONED, JUST A HIGH LEVEL KIND OF UPDATE AND FINALIZATION TO KIND OF CLOSE OUT THE PROCESS. AND I'M HERE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TO ANSWER ANY OTHER OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS. WE HAD A GREAT DISCUSSION BACK IN JUNE WITH THE JOINT COUNCIL PARK COMMISSION WORKSHOP THAT REALLY DROVE THE ACTION PLAN GOING FORWARD. SO JUST A REFRESHER ON THE PROCESS. A LARGE PART OF THE THE FIRST STAGE WAS DATA COLLECTION SITE REVIEW. WE HELD A RECREATION PROGRAM WORKSHOP WITH WITH STAFF TO UNDERSTAND 
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RECREATION PROGRAMING, DID SOME MAPPING EXERCISES, UPDATED THE LEVEL OF SERVICE ANALYSIS, AND THEN ENTERED INTO OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. A THOROUGH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. 
          WE TRIED TO USE A VARIETY OF TOOLS AND MECHANISMS TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY THROUGH FOCUS GROUPS, ONLINE SURVEYS. OF COURSE, IT'S A STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY. OBVIOUSLY, GETTING AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MARYSVILLE HAS PROGRESSED AND GROWN OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS THROUGH THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND RECREATION TRENDS ANALYSIS. AND THEN, AS MENTIONED, WE HELD THE WORKSHOP WITH THE COUNCIL AND THE PARK COMMISSION BACK IN JUNE, WHICH REALLY DROVE THE REST OF OUR FINANCIAL PLANNING, CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT, PLANNING FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, AND THEN THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN IMPLEMENTATION. THE THE ONE, THE PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE MASTER PLAN IS OUTLINING THE OVERALL GOALS, STRATEGIES AND THEN SOME ACTIONS THAT CAN TAKE PLACE OVER THE NEXT 5 TO 10 YEARS. SO I MENTIONED PRETTY THOROUGH STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. WE DID DO STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY OFFICIALS, PARKS AND REC COMMISSIONERS. WE ALSO INVOLVE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE YMCA, TRAIL ADVOCATES, AND YOUTH SPORTS GROUPS. WE WERE ALSO IN TOWN LAST OCTOBER TO DO FOCUS GROUPS. WE HAD ABOUT, I THINK, 3 TO 4 PEOPLE PER FOCUS GROUP THAT HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM THOSE GROUPS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED. WE ALSO DID WHAT WAS CALLED A SOCIAL PINPOINT WEBSITE, AND SO THAT HAD AN ONLINE SURVEY THAT WAS A MORE CONDENSED, MIRRORED VERSION OF THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY. IT PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO MAY HAVE NOT GOTTEN THAT STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY TO GO ONLINE AND STILL WEIGH IN. WE HAD AN INTERACTIVE MAPPING EXERCISE. WE HAD A VISIONING BOARD AS WELL, WHERE COMMUNITY MEMBERS COULD MAKE COMMENTS. THAT WEBSITE IS STILL LIVE TOO. AND SO THERE THERE IS THE ABILITY TO STILL MAKE COMMENTS AND AND FOLLOW PROGRESS THROUGHOUT THE MASTER PLAN. IF MARYSVILLE DESIRES TO UPDATE THAT WEBSITE THROUGH THE PROCESS, AND THEN THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY WAS DONE THROUGH MTC INSTITUTE. AND SO WE HAD A GOAL OF 375 RESPONSES BASED ON YOUR COMMUNITY, POPULATION NUMBERS AND ETC. EXCEEDED THAT WITH 418 RESPONSES. AND SO THAT BROUGHT US TO A 95% CONFIDENCE RATE. AND WHAT MAKES IT A STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY IS IT WAS DONE AT RANDOM AND IT MATCHES THE DEMOGRAPHICS, THE POPULATION OF YOUR COMMUNITY. SO IT KIND OF REMOVES THAT SELECTION BIAS THAT YOU MAY SEE WITH A STRAW POLL OR ONLINE SURVEY THROUGH SURVEY MONKEY. SO JUST A REFRESHER ON SOME OF THE PRIORITIES THAT CAME OUT OF THE SURVEY. SO EBTC HAS DEVELOPED A PRIORITY INVESTMENT RATING. AND SO THAT IS A FORMULA THAT WEIGHS THE IMPORTANCE THE COMMUNITY PLACES ON FACILITIES, AMENITIES AND PROGRAMS, AS WELL AS WHERE THE UNMET NEED MAY BE. AND SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN SEVERAL OF THE HIGH PRIORITY ITEMS FOR FACILITIES AND AMENITIES. THIS REALLY CREATES FOCUS AREAS OVER THE NEXT 5 TO 10 YEARS FOR PARKS AND RECREATION TO FOCUS LIMITED FUNDING TOWARD. AND SO I WILL MENTION I WAS DISCUSSING EARLIER WITH JEREMY THE THE LAST SURVEY IN 2016, A LOT OF THE SAME ITEMS. THERE ARE A FEW THAT SHUFFLED UP AND DOWN, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE HIGH PRIORITY ITEMS REMAIN THE SAME AS THEY DID EIGHT YEARS AGO, INCLUDING WALKING AND BIKING TRAILS BEING THE NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS NO DIFFERENT THAN WE SEE IN IN THE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT WE WORK IN ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THERE ARE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INDOOR FACILITIES. AS YOU SEE, YOU GET PAST GREEN SPACE AND NATURAL AREAS, WHICH AGAIN IS NO DIFFERENT THAN EIGHT YEARS AGO. SO THAT THAT SHOWS THAT A GROWING COMMUNITY STILL PRIORITIZES INDOOR RECREATION, OR THERE ARE UNMET NEEDS IN THOSE AREAS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY BASED ON CURRENT FACILITIES. AND THEN THE SAME WITH PROGRAMS. THIS IS ACTUALLY EXACTLY THE SAME AS EIGHT YEARS AGO WITH THESE THREE HIGH PRIORITY PROGRAMS. AND YOU KNOW WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND WITH OUR PROGRAM ANALYSIS WAS COMMUNITY. SPECIAL EVENTS ARE EXTREMELY VALUED AND WELL ATTENDED AND CONSISTENTLY GROWING. THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, DURING THE COVID AND POST COVID YEARS, YOU KNOW, A DECREASE IN PARTICIPATION, BUT THEY HAVE REBOUNDED. AND IN SOME AREAS ACTUALLY ARE SEEING MORE PARTICIPATION ABOVE PRE-COVID 
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LEVELS, WHICH IS WHICH IS GREAT TO SEE. SO AS I MENTIONED, AFTER THE WORKSHOP WITH THE COUNCIL AND THE PARK COMMISSION, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, THE COMMUNITY INPUT, WE STARTED TO WORK WITH JEREMY AND BRANDON TO DEVELOP A VISION AND MISSION AND THEN THE OVERALL GOALS FOR THE MASTER PLAN. ONE OTHER THING THAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS TIE IN THE VISION AND MISSION TO THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SO WE USE THAT AS A GUIDEPOST. AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU SEE WITH THESE TWO STATEMENTS IS THAT PARKS AND RECREATION IS HERE TO HELP CREATE A HEALTHY, WELL CONNECTED COMMUNITY. AND WELL CONNECTED CAN MEAN MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. IT CAN MEAN PHYSICALLY THROUGH TRAILS, GREEN SPACES AND PARKS. IT CAN ALSO MEAN CREATING CONNECTIONS THROUGH COMMUNITY EVENTS WHICH YOU ALL DO A FANTASTIC JOB ON PLANNING. SO GETTING INTO THE GOALS AND STRATEGIES, WE BROKE THESE UP INTO DIFFERENT BUCKETS. SO THIS FIRST ONE IS PARKS AND FACILITIES. AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE VISION FOR PARKS AND FACILITIES. ONE OF THE GOALS WAS TO CONTINUE IMPLEMENTING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. ONE OF THE PRIORITIES FOR UPDATING THE MASTER PLAN WAS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE THE CURRENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND UNDERSTAND WHETHER THOSE PROJECTS WERE STILL A PRIORITY TO THE COMMUNITY. I THINK WE SAW IN SEVERAL AREAS THAT THEY ARE, AND THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT CAME THROUGH STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT WAS ESSENTIALLY TAKING CARE OF WHAT YOU HAVE FIRST, AND WE'VE CREATED THAT WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IN THE SUSTAINABLE PROJECTS. SO THOSE WOULD BE YOUR PRIORITIES THAT TAKE CARE OF PARK INFRASTRUCTURE OR ITEMS THAT MAY BE ON YOUR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE LIST FIRST. SO WHEN YOU HAVE A LIMITED POOL OF FUNDING THAT CAN GO TO CAPITAL PROJECTS, THAT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU INVEST IN THOSE PROJECTS FIRST AND THEN LOOK TO THE EXPANDED OR VISIONARY PROJECTS, WHICH COULD ENHANCE WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE, OR EVEN CREATE NEW FACILITIES IF AVAILABLE. FUNDING COMES INTO PLAY. ADDRESSING COMMUNITY PRIORITIES THROUGH PARKING FACILITY INVESTMENTS. SO I DESCRIBED THROUGH THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY WHAT THE PRIORITIES WERE AND INCREASING PARK ACREAGE, EXPANDING TRAILS AND GREENWAYS NETWORK, AND DEFINING A STRATEGY FOR INDOOR RECREATION SPACE ARE THREE OF THE MAIN STRATEGIES. AND SO IN THE ACTUAL PLAN, JEREMY AND BRANDON HAVE THE FULL IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. AND SO THE STRATEGIES GO INTO FURTHER DETAIL WITH SPECIFIC ACTIONS THAT COULD BE PRIORITIZED OVER THE NEXT 5 TO 10 YEARS. AND SO THESE ARE JUST THE HIGH LEVEL STRATEGIES. MOVING ON TO RECREATION PROGRAMS. AND SO THE GOAL ALIGNS WITH ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE SAW THROUGH STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT WITH EXPANDING COMMUNITY SPECIAL EVENTS, FITNESS, HEALTH AND WELLNESS PROGRAMS, BUT ALSO LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO FURTHER ENGAGE YOUTH AND TEENS AS WELL AS ACTIVE OLDER ADULTS THROUGH PROGRAMS. MARYSVILLE DOES A FANTASTIC JOB PROGRAMING OUTDOOR FACILITIES THROUGH THE PASSPORT SERIES, AND SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE EXPAND ON THAT OR EVEN CREATE SOME CAMPS THAT COULD FEED OFF OF THAT PASSPORT SERIES TO CREATE THAT OUTDOOR CONNECTION FOR YOUTH, WHICH IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY MORE IMPORTANT AS THE YEARS GO ON. FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT. AND SO THE THE MAIN THEME OF THIS, THIS GOAL IS TO CONTINUE IMPLEMENTING SOUND BUSINESS PRACTICES AS FISCAL STEWARDS OF PUBLIC FUNDING, OF COURSE, BUT LOOKING FOR CREATIVE WAYS TO FUND PROGRAMING AND FUTURE OPERATIONS AND PARK PROJECTS. UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT CANNOT BE EVERYTHING TO EVERYONE. UNDERSTANDING THERE'S A LIMITED POOL OF FUNDING FROM TAX REVENUES. 
          MARYSVILLE NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES, WHETHER THAT BE FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS. I KNOW THE PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT FEE HAS COME UP A FEW TIMES. THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE HAD A DETAILED DISCUSSION ON WITH JEREMY AND BRANDON, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT OTHER, MAYBE EVEN PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. YOU ALL ALREADY DO NAMING IN THE PARKS AND SPONSORSHIPS, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ADDITIONAL PARTNERSHIPS LIKE THAT CAN ALSO HELP ALLEVIATE THE BURDEN ON PUBLIC TAXPAYERS TAX FUNDING. AND THEN STRATEGIES FOR OPERATIONS AND MANAGEMENT. AND SO ONE OF THE MAIN THEMES IN THIS AREAKING FOR WAYS 
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TO EXPAND THE CAPACITY OF THE DEPARTMENT, UNDERSTANDING THEY CAN'T ADD 5 TO 6 STAFF MEMBERS NEXT YEAR. SO IS THERE A STRATEGIC WAY THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS, THROUGH EXTERNAL CONTRACTS TO BRING ON ADDITIONAL PROGRAMING, BUT ALSO LOOK FOR WAYS TO HIRE ADDITIONAL PROGRAMING STAFF, WHICH COULD BRING IN ADDITIONAL EARNED INCOME THROUGH USER FEES THAT COULD FUND THE STAFF. AND SO JUST CONTINUING TO ANALYZE FEES TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE ALIGNED WITH MARKET RATES, BUT ALSO MAKE SURE YOU'RE ADDRESSING UNDERSERVED AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY WITH PROGRAMS AND FACILITIES AS THE COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO GROW. AND WE ALWAYS ADVOCATE FOR A BUSINESS MINDSET WHEN SERVICES ARE PLANNED, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE, ESPECIALLY FOR REVENUE GENERATING FACILITIES, A BUSINESS PLAN IN MIND THAT LAYS OUT THE GOALS AND A FEE STRUCTURE AND YOU KNOW, THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO TO OCCUR OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. SO THE AQUATIC CENTER WOULD BE ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT, WHERE WE RECOMMEND A SPECIFIC BUSINESS PLAN FOR THE AQUATIC CENTER SO THAT STAFF HAVE DIRECTION AND GOALS ON HOW TO MANAGE THAT FACILITY GOING FORWARD. AND I THINK I COVERED IT WITH THAT ONE THAT WAS NOT BUILDING CAPACITY. SO YEAH, THAT'S THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE THIS EVENING. AGAIN, VERY HIGH LEVEL. QUICK SYNOPSIS OF THE MASTER PLAN. THE DOCUMENT GOES INTO MUCH MORE DETAIL, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS THIS EVENING. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM? YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SPEAK ABOUT THE CAPITAL IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, PROJECTS AND THE DEVELOPMENT FEES AND ALL THAT STUFF, DO YOU DO YOU HAVE AN OUTLINE OF WHAT OUR NUMBERS ARE COMPARED TO OTHER COMMUNITIES? WE DID DO BENCHMARKING, SO WE BENCHMARKED AGAINST SOME LOCAL COMMUNITIES AS FAR AS WHAT THEY INVEST IN THEIR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. BUT WE ALSO USE THE NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARK ASSOCIATION, AND THEY HAVE A DATABASE CALLED PARK METRICS, WHERE PARK AGENCIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, MORE SPECIFICALLY, THERE'S MANY IN THE MIDWEST THAT ENTER THEIR DATA INTO THAT SYSTEM, AND IT GIVES YOU SOME INSIGHTS ON PER CAPITA SPENDING FOR OPERATIONS AND CAPITAL FOR PARK AGENCIES. 
          AND SO WE USE BOTH OF THOSE RESOURCES TO LOCAL COMMUNITIES, WHAT INFORMATION AND DATA WE COULD COLLECT FROM THEM. BUT ALSO THE NATIONAL PARK METRICS TO UNDERSTAND WHERE MARYSVILLE FALLS WITH CAPITAL. DID YOU WANT TO. YEAH. SO WE KNEW THIS QUESTION WAS COMING. SO AT LEAST BASED ON THE DATA THAT PROSE HAS PROVIDED US IN CENTRAL OHIO FOR EVERY NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, AND AGAIN, WE DIDN'T GET EVERY COMMUNITY, BUT IT RANGES ANYWHERE FROM $500 TO 4650. RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 1000. THE AVERAGE IS 1600. SO THE 4650 IS AN OUTLIER. I THINK THE 500, THERE WERE A COUPLE OTHERS AT THAT. SO I WOULD SAY TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR, VERY BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OTHER DEVELOPMENT RELATED FEES, AND WE WOULD BRING THROUGH ANY INCREASES AT THAT TIME. AND AS A REMINDER, THIS IS ONLY FOR NEW HOUSES. SO EVERY TIME SOMEBODY BUILDS A HOUSE, WE COLLECT $1,000. EVERY TIME SOMEBODY BUILDS AN APARTMENT, EVERY UNIT WE GET $1,000 TO TO HELP BUILD THE PARK SYSTEM. COMMERCIAL GETS GETS ASSESSED AT, WELL, AT A DIFFERENT RATE. BUT IT DOES GET ASSESSED. SO ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT PAYS INTO THIS FUND. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT COUNCILMAN WOLFE AND THE REST OF THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION KIND OF PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON, ON WHAT PROJECTS SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. SOUNDS GOOD. WE'RE READY. WELL, I JUST KNOW THAT EVENTUALLY, JUST LIKE ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, GROWTH WILL STOP. AND THEN WE WILL, YOU KNOW, WE WON'T HAVE AS MUCH AS WE DO NOW. SO AND AND WITH OUR, WITH OUR THOUSAND DOLLARS, I KIND OF ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS SUFFICIENT. WE HAVEN'T CHANGED IT IN QUITE SOME TIME, BUT IT WAS ENOUGH. NOW WITH SOME OF THE NEW PROJECTS AND, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION COSTS CONTINUE TO GO UP, IT SEEMS LIKE THE TIMING IS PERFECT WITH THE PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN, BUT ALSO TO TO REASSESS AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S COVERING ANY NEEDS THAT WE HAVE, NOT ONLY TODAY BUT IN THE FUTURE. YEAH. THE ONLY YEAH. AS WE THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS LIKE THE BMX, BMX TRACK AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THE PROTECTION OF OPEN SPACE AND USING IT NOT AS A MOWING, BUT USING IT AS JUST OPEN SPACE AND PRESERVING LAND IS GOING TO BE VITAL TO THE FUTURE OF PARKS. COULD BE A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY THE PARKLAND DOESN'T GO TO REPLACE. A SWING SET NECESSARILY GOES TO BUILD A NEW ONE, AND A PLACE THAT HASN'T BEEN BEFORE OR TO PURCHASE GROUND COULD BE AN OPTION. I WOULD THINK BASED ON 
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WHAT I'VE SEEN, LAND PRICES GO FOR, YOU KNOW, THE PARKLAND FUND WOULD HAVE TO QUITE SOME TIME TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO AFFORD THAT KIND OF LAND. GIVE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO JUST KIND OF EXPAND ON SOME OF THE MORE SHORT TERM RECOMMENDATIONS JUST FOR THE CITY AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT? RECREATION DEPARTMENT? SURE. I THINK ONE OF THE ONE OF THE MORE SHORT TERM RECOMMENDATIONS HAD TO DO WITH RECREATION PROGRAMS. SO UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE CITY WANTS TO GET INVOLVED IN OFFERING THE SERVICES. SO AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THERE'S A WHOLE VARIETY OF NEEDS YOU SAW WITH THE LIST, BUT HONING IN ON WHAT ARE YOUR CORE PROGRAM AREAS, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY THROUGH PROGRAMING? I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER SHORT TERM STRATEGIES THAT WE LAID OUT IS FURTHER DEFINING THAT STRATEGY FOR INDOOR RECREATION. WHERE IS MARYSVILLE GOING TO GET INVOLVED? WE UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE OTHER POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIPS, WHETHER THAT BE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE YMCA, TO WHERE FACILITIES COULD HELP SERVE IN SOME INDOOR RECREATION NEEDS. BUT I THINK SEEING THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN MUCH CHANGE IN EIGHT YEARS BETWEEN THE TWO SURVEYS, INDOOR RECREATION AS A PRIORITY FOR THE COMMUNITY ISN'T LIKELY TO GO AWAY ANYTIME SOON. AND SO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WHETHER IT BE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE YMCA, WHETHER IT BE MARYSVILLE FILLING INDOOR RECREATION NEEDS IN OTHER AREAS BECAUSE THE YMCA IS DOING, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THEIR CURRENT FACILITY OR MAYBE FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS. I THINK THOSE ARE THOSE ARE TWO THAT STAND OUT, ALONG WITH CONTINUING TO DIVERSIFY FUNDING SOURCES FOR PARKS AND RECREATION SO THAT THE DEPARTMENT CAN CONTINUE TO BE SUSTAINED EVEN IF THERE NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, SHORTFALLS WITH TAX FUNDING. THAT WAY, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE CAN REMAIN THE SAME THAT THE COMMUNITY EXPECTS WITH PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES AND THAT THAT FUNDING CAN BE SUPPLEMENTED, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH PARKLAND DEDICATION, WHETHER IT BE OR OTHER EARNED INCOME SOURCES. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR. I DON'T THINK SO. IS THERE ANY WERE YOU WERE YOU WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING OR. NO. 
          I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK BRUCE FOR FOR THEIR TIME. I THINK THEY REALLY CAPTURE, YOU KNOW, ALL WE'RE HOPING TO OUT OF THIS SURVEY AND KIND OF REINFORCE WHAT WE KIND OF ALREADY THOUGHT IT WAS JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE PULSE ON THE COMMUNITY AND THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD ARE CONSIDER THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS AND THAT SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ADDITION OF SCOTT'S FAMILY PARK AND SEEING THE NATURAL PROGRAMING COMES UP PRETTY HIGH ON HERE, IT REALLY GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHECK ALL THOSE BOXES OFF AND PIGGYBACK ON WHAT BRANDON SAID. WHILE WE'RE THINKING PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WE WE AS STAFF THINK, YEP, THIS IS WHAT I WANT. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT. THIS IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS. BUT TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE DATA FROM THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS SO THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING TANGIBLE MOVING FORWARD. SO WHEN WE GO WITH A NEW SKATE PARK, WE KNOW THE COMMUNITY WANTS THAT OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT MAY BE. SO IT'S DEFINITELY GOOD TO KIND OF BE OR, YOU KNOW, WE WERE DEFINITELY ON THE SAME PAGE AS THEM. SO IT DOES A GOOD JOB REINFORCING THAT TO US, AND THEN IT HELPS US FEEL GOOD WHEN WE'RE REQUESTING MONEY WITHIN OUR BUDGETS FROM FROM CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND WORKING. AND THANK YOU TO THE PARKS PARKS COMMITTEE FOR, YOU KNOW, GETTING THIS DONE AND WORKING WITH CITY STAFF TO GIVE US A PROPOSAL. LOOK FORWARD TO READING THROUGH IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY. I GUESS THERE'S CITIZENS. IS THERE ANY CITIZENS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT HERE? HEARING NONE. SO ON ON MY PAPER IT SAYS THERE'S A MOTION TO PASS. DOES THAT MEAN WE JUST HAVE TO JUST GET IT IN? I GUESS IF YOU WANT TO TAKE COUNCIL COMMENTS AND THEN IT'S JUST A ONE READING RESOLUTION. SO THERE'D BE A MOTION TO PASS. OKAY, OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS THE ONE READING. SO YEAH, THERE'S IF IT'S A ONE READING. SO RESIDENTS HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO SAY ABOUT IT NOW. NOW IS YOUR CHANCE. IF YOU HAD ANY COMMENTS ABOUT IT. IF YOU DON'T IT'S OKAY. DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NOPE. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I'M SORRY, THAT'S THE PLANNING COMMISSION. MAKE A 
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MOTION TO. BOTH THE PARKS AND REC AND PARKS AND REC RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE. THANK YOU, MR. BARBIE. ROLL CALL, MR. RAIMES. YES, MISS KRAMER? YES, MR. BORDNER. YES, MR. WOLFE. YES. MR. KIRBY. YES, MR. BURGER YES, MR. HUNTER YES. 
          SEVEN. YES. RESOLUTION PASSES. ORDINANCE A. ORDINANCE A TO APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION'S 
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RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING FOR THE HICKORY WOODS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUD. ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING FURTHER. COUNCIL. NO. YEAH. YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY, MISS KRAMER? I JUST WANTED TO. I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. SOME OF THE THE TRAILS THAT WERE NEAR THE THE VERY RIGHT UP ALONG THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY, THAT THOSE WERE JUST TENTATIVE LOCATIONS AND THOSE MIGHT BE SHIFTED BACK A LITTLE BIT FROM THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY. IS THAT. YES, ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN COORDINATE THAT WITH THE APPLICANT WHEN THEY COME THROUGH FOR THAT, TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE OFF OF THAT PROPERTY, PROPERTY LINE OF THOSE ADJACENT PARCELS. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY ONE MORE? YEAH. YEAH. THERE WAS ANOTHER I THINK ALONG THE LINES OF THE TRAIL. THERE WAS A RESIDENT ON THE NORTH EAST SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE PROXIMITY OF THE TRAIL TO HER LOCATION. AND WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING SOME SIGNAGE OR SOME. FENCING OR SOMETHING. HAVE WE HAVE WE RESOLVED THAT? YEAH, I THINK WE WERE GOING TO GO WITH THE FENCING AS THAT OR EXCUSE ME, THE, THE SIGNAGE AS THAT INITIAL RECOMMENDATION FOR GUIDANCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO PROPERTY LINES. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. YEAH. MR. BURBANK. 
          YEAH. THE ONE ITEM ON THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, I THINK THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB. BUT AND OF COURSE, WHAT REALLY SURPRISED ME IS THAT IF I LOOK AT SECTIONS ONE THROUGH NINE, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE ROAD DIRECTLY. THOSE ARE THE LARGER ONES. THOSE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE MORE EXPENSIVE HOMES. THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE SCHOOL DISTRICT. YEAH. THE ONES THAT ARE FURTHER AWAY ARE GOING TO BE IN THE FAIRBANKS DISTRICT. I CAN ASSUME THAT WE'VE HAD COMMUNICATION WITH FAIRBANKS AND THAT THEY KNOW THAT THIS IS FORTHCOMING. I KNOW WE ALWAYS HAD THAT GOOD TO SEE WITH THE LOCAL MARYSVILLE SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE HAD SPECIFIC CONVERSATION TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT THAT THE OTHER DAY. THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THAT. I THINK THEY HAVE A WOULD YOU MIND? GARY SMITH D2 PLANNING AND DESIGN. SO YES, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO FAIRBANKS LOCAL SCHOOLS, ACTUALLY, ANDY REACHED OUT SEVERAL TIMES. SO FIRST HE PUT IN A PHONE CALL, DID NOT GET A RETURN PHONE CALL. I'M ASSUMING THEY WERE BUSY WITH THE STARTUP OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. HE SENT AN EMAIL WITH A COPY OF THE PLANS, AND THEN ACTUALLY STOPPED BY WITH A COPY OF THE PLANS TO TRY AND TALK TO THEM INDIVIDUALLY, AND HAD NO LUCK ACTUALLY HAVING A MEETING OR HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH ANYBODY. THEY ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO HIM A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, CONFIRMED THAT THEY HAD RECEIVED THE MATERIALS, AND OUR HAVE SET UP A MEETING WITH THEM, I THINK, FOR NEXT WEEK. IS THAT CORRECT? THIS WEDNESDAY, THIS WEDNESDAY. SO THIS WEDNESDAY. SO YEAH, WE WE ANDY HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM, HAS GIVEN THEM THE MATERIALS. THEY'RE AWARE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AND HE'S GOING TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM ON WEDNESDAY AND KIND OF FURTHER EXPLAIN WHAT WE HAVE OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. AND THE ONE THING THAT YOU DO IN THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, AND AGAIN I'M LOOKING AT THE NINE OR THE NINE PROPERTIES ON BURGER. AND THEN YOU HAVE AN ALLEYWAY BEHIND IT TO ALLOW BACK ENTRANCE. HAVING SERVED ON A HOA HOA, IF IT PERTAINS TO A 
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SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE, IS NOT VERY WILLING OFTEN TO SPEND MONEY ON JUST THOSE, AND THEN THE ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO IT WOULD PERTAIN TO ABOUT 20 DWELLINGS THAT HAVE THEIR OWN PRIVATE ALLEYWAY. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS IS NOT CITY PROPERTY. YEAH, THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. BECAUSE IF I LOOK AT SOME OF THE ALLEYWAYS THAT WE AS A CITY MAINTAIN. YEAH, AND AFTER ALMOST 100 YEARS, THEY STILL LOOK WELL, THEY COULD LOOK BETTER, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. AND A PROPERTY LIKE THIS ALLEYWAY, IT NEEDS TO BE AND IT IS, IT IS STATED IN HERE THAT IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. BUT I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT SHARED ACCESS AND THEN ASKING THE HOA TO ACTUALLY DO THE BLACKTOPPING. 
          AND LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN ON AN HOA BOARD AND THE PUSHBACK THAT YOU FREQUENTLY GET, WELL, THAT'S NOT MY MY PROBLEM IS THAT PROBLEM. SO IS THAT HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH. WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE CLEARLY WRITTEN INTO THE HOA DOCUMENTS THAT THE THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT ALLEY IS, IS GOING TO BE PROPERTY OF THE HOA. SO THEIR FEES ARE GOING TO COVER AND, YOU KNOW, BE SOME OF THAT'S GOING TO BE BANKED AWAY, YOU KNOW, FOR FUTURE USE TO REPAIR THAT WHEN IT BECOMES NECESSARY. UNFORTUNATELY, IT WAS REALLY OUR ONLY OPTION BECAUSE IT WAS IT WAS THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT OF BERGER ROAD TRYING TO KEEP ALL THOSE ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAYS OFF OF BERGER ROAD. THAT KIND OF NECESSITATED THE ALLEY. SO IT'S JUST A FUNCTION OF WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. AND ANYBODY THAT BUYS A HOME IS GOING TO BE ULTIMATELY FOREWARNED THAT THEIR HOA IS GOING TO HAVE TO COVER THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT ALLEY. AND THEN WE JUST HAD A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR. I THINK IT COVERS VERY WELL THE NUMBER ONE, AS YOU COULD SEE, A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN WALK. YEAH, THAT THAT SEEMS TO BE NUMBER ONE. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO PUT IN THE BMX BECAUSE THAT MADE IT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM. YEAH. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YES, IT IS. SOME OF THE TRAILS ARE IN A WOODED AREA. THE THE DOCUMENTS STATE THAT IT IS ALLOWED TO BUILD SHELTER HOMES. IT IS ALLOWED TO BUILD, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE NONE OF IT IS GOING TO BE BUILT. SO WHAT WHAT WHAT IS, WHAT IS. SO THAT'S I WANT TO GO BACK BECAUSE I THINK I KNOW AND I APOLOGIZE. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PATIENCE WITH THIS. THIS IS KIND OF BEEN ON SUSPENDED ANIMATION FOR A LITTLE WHILE. WE'VE DELAYED A COUPLE OF TIMES JUST TO LET LARGER PROJECTS WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH COUNCIL. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALSO HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE OUT AT VARIOUS TIMES. 
          WE WANTED TO HAVE THE WHOLE COUNCIL AVAILABLE TO VOTE ON THIS. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY. WE DID TALK IN A PREVIOUS MEETING ABOUT THAT. SO TO ANSWER BACK TO THE QUESTION ON THE PATHS AND JULIE, YOUR QUESTION, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THE PATHS RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE JUST KIND OF SHOWN AS A GRAPHIC, THE WAY THE PATHS IN THE WOODED AREAS ARE GOING TO WORK IS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO GO OUT AND WALK AND SURVEY THAT AREA, SEE WHERE THE TREES ARE, AND KIND OF STAKE WHERE THAT NATURAL PATH WILL GO THROUGH THE TREES. SO WE WE WILL STAY AWAY FROM THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE PROPERTY LINES. WE'LL PUT UP NO TRESPASSING SIGNS ALONG THOSE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. AND THOSE THOSE PATHS ARE GOING TO BE STAKED, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO THROUGH KIND OF THE ENGINEERING PROCESS AND AS WE START DOING PLATTING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THE OTHER OPEN SPACES, WE DO ANTICIPATE THERE BEING POTENTIALLY AMENITIES IN THOSE AREAS. BUT BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL CUSTOM HOMES, WHAT THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO DO IS HE WANTS TO ALLOW PEOPLE AS THEY START BUYING LOTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT TO KIND OF HAVE THEIR INPUT ON WHAT AMENITIES THEY WANT IN THE OPEN SPACES, AND THEN THEY'LL THEY WOULD PUT THEM IN FROM THERE. SO THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL AMENITIES IN THOSE SPACES. BUT HE'S GOING TO ALLOW THE COMMUNITY AS, AS PEOPLE BUY IN THERE TO KIND OF DETERMINE WHAT THAT IS, INSTEAD OF JUST ASSUMING EVERYBODY WANTS A SWING SET, HE WANTS TO GET FEEDBACK OF THE RESIDENTS BEFORE THEY INSTALL THOSE. SO WE'VE ALLOWED FOR THOSE THINGS IN THE TEXT AS PERMITTED USES. BUT HE WANTS TO GET FEEDBACK BEFORE HE PUTS THEM IN OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THAT WAS ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD. THANK YOU. 
          ANYBODY ELSE ANY QUESTIONS. IS THERE A MOTION, MR. PRESIDENT I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. ROLL CALL. MISS KRAMER. YES. MR. BORDNER. YES, MR. WOLFE? NO. MR. BURBY. YES, 
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MR. BURGER? YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REMES YES. SIX. YES. ONE. NO. LEGISLATION PASSES. OKAY. 
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ORDINANCE. ORDINANCE BE. ORDINANCE BE TO APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING FOR THE TRAILS THAT WEAVER RIDGE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. ADMINISTRATION. WE WE KNOW WE HAVE SOME AMENDMENTS THAT WE'D LIKE TO BRING BEFORE COUNCIL THIS EVENING. AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE DEVELOPER TO INTRODUCE THOSE AMENDMENTS. THESE HAVE ALREADY BEEN SPOKEN TO TO SOME EXTENT, BUT JUST TO ENSURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THOSE ARE. THERE WILL BE A REQUEST TO THEN APPROVE EACH AMENDMENT INDIVIDUALLY SO AS THEY GO THROUGH THESE. SO PLEASE FEEL FREE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS TO ASK. IS IT OKAY IF I GET ACCESS TO THE SCREEN? YEAH, IT'LL COME UP ONCE YOU GET. OH, PERFECT. THANK YOU. SO I GET TO STAND IN FRONT OF YOU YET AGAIN. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE HAD A LOT OF GREAT DISCUSSION AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND AT THAT, AT THAT HEARING, WE UNVEILED A NUMBER OF IDEAS FOR CHANGES TO THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WERE BROUGHT UP IN OUR FIRST MEETING. A LOT OF CONCERNS OVER THE ENTRY, HOW THE ENTRY LOOKED, WHERE THE ENTRY WAS LOCATED. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, WE WERE UNABLE TO SECURE THE RIGHT OF WAY NEEDED TO MOVE THE ENTRY ALL THE WAY TO THE SOUTH, BUT WE DID MAKE SOME MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ENTRY TO ONE IMPROVE THE SAFETY AND TWO TO IMPROVE THE ESTHETIC AND THE COMMUNITY. SO I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH WHAT THOSE CHANGES ARE AND WHAT WE'VE DONE SO THAT EVERYBODY KIND OF UNDERSTANDS BECAUSE THEY ARE, I THINK THE THE ADMINISTRATION HAS, HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WANT TO MOVE THOSE THINGS THROUGH A VOTE. WE WOULD LIKE THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THOSE AMENDMENTS. SO I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT REAL QUICK. WE'RE ALL EVERYBODY'S FAMILIAR WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THIS IS WHERE WE STARTED. AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS REALLY QUICK. THIS IS WHERE WE STARTED WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE SKETCH PLAN PROCESS. 
          THIS IS WHERE WE WERE WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE PLAN. THESE WERE THE CHANGES THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD INCORPORATED. AND SO WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS WITH COUNCIL, WE WERE AT 250 LOTS, TOTAL GROSS DENSITY OF 2.5 UNITS TO THE ACRE. AND WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 20 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE. AND SO WE HAD OUR MAIN ENTRY OUT ONTO WEAVER ROAD. WE HAD THAT KIND OF CENTERED IN THAT SPACE, AND THEN THAT WE HAD LOTS THAT KIND OF WENT THROUGH AND OUT TO THE ROAD. SO PRIMARILY MOST OF THE DISCUSSION AT THE FIRST MEETING CENTERED AROUND KIND OF THE LOCATION OF THAT AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT ACTUALLY MET KIND OF ODOT'S REQUIREMENTS FOR SAFETY. WE DID A NUMBER OF STUDIES. WE PUT TOGETHER SOME CONCEPTS. WE BROUGHT THAT BACK TO OUR SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING. WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL, FROM THE COMMUNITY. AND SO FINALIZING THAT, WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE COUNCIL, THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE TONIGHT, ESSENTIALLY IS THIS PLAN. SO THIS PLAN PRIMARILY WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THE ENTRY IS WE'VE ACTUALLY SHIFTED THAT ENTRY ROAD FURTHER SOUTH TO GIVE US ADDITIONAL DISTANCE BETWEEN WHERE OUR ENTRY ROAD IS AND THE CURVE. AND IF YOU REMEMBER FROM THE LAST MEETING, WE DID A DISPLAY WITH THE ODOT STANDARDS THAT KIND OF SHOW YOU THAT WE'RE MEETING THE ODOT STANDARDS IN TERMS OF THE SIGHTLINES AND THE VISIBILITY. THE OTHER THING THAT WE DID IS WE TURNED ROW A INTO A COMPLETELY UNLOADED ROAD. SO I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT NOT WANTING TO SEE LOTS KIND OF ALONG THAT ROAD UP IN THAT THROAT AREA. AND SO WHAT THAT GIVES US APPROXIMATELY NOW ANY HOUSE IN THE DEVELOPMENT IS THE CLOSEST HOUSE IN THE DEVELOPMENT TO WEAVER ROAD IS IS ABOUT 1100 FEET. SO IT'S A REALLY SIGNIFICANT DISTANCE AWAY FROM WEAVER ROAD THAT WE'RE CREATING KIND OF THAT OPEN SPACE. AND SO NOW ON THE ENTRY SIDE WE HAVE OPEN SPACE. WE HAVE WE MAINTAINED OUR LARGE PARK ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND THEN ROAD A, NOW THE MAIN ENTRY ROAD HAS BECOME KIND OF A BOULEVARD 
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ENTRY. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BOULEVARD ENTRY THERE, TREES DOWN THE CENTER, TREES DOWN EACH SIDE WHICH BRINGS YOU IN. AND THEN YOU'LL BE LOOKING AS YOU ENTER INTO THE PROJECT. 
          YOU'LL BE LOOKING KIND OF INTO THE PARK. WHEN YOU STOP AT THAT INTERSECTION, AND YOU'LL BE LOOKING INTO THE PARK KIND OF AT THE PROPOSED POND. SO WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A REALLY ATTRACTIVE ENTRY, AND IT REMOVES A LOT OF THE LOTS ALONG THE PRIMARY PRIMARY DRIVE AS THE AS THE COUNCIL SUGGESTED. THEN ONCE WE GOT THAT DONE, YOU KNOW, SURPRISINGLY, THAT REALLY DIDN'T CHANGE A LOT IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL NUMBER. SO WE STARTED REDUCING THE DENSITY. 
          AND THE WAY THAT WE DID THAT WAS WE STARTED JUST ELIMINATING A LOT OF THE 55 FOOT LOTS, THE SMALLER LOTS, AND REPLACING THOSE WITH THE LARGER LOTS. AND SO WHAT WE'VE ULTIMATELY DONE, WE WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET RID OF ALL OF THE 55 FOOT LOTS BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, WITH MOST DEVELOPMENTS, WHEN YOU COME IN AND YOU MARKET A DEVELOPMENT, YOU ALWAYS WANT TO BE ABLE TO PUT UP A SIGN THAT SAYS LOTS STARTING AT. SO THEY NEED SOME LOTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE KIND OF AT THAT ENTRY POINT. BUT WE STARTED REPLACING A MAJORITY OF THOSE. AND WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE NOW IS THAT WE'VE REPLACED THEM PRIMARILY WITH THE 66 FOOT LOTS AND THE 70 FOOT LOTS. SO WE HAVE MORE 70 FOOT LOTS THAN WE HAD IN THE PRIOR PLAN. WE HAVE CONSIDERABLY MORE 66 FOOT LOTS THAN WE HAD IN THE PRIOR PLAN, AND INSTEAD OF WE TOOK ABOUT 50% OF THE 50 FOOT, FIVE FOOT LOTS OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. SO WHERE BEFORE WE WERE ABOUT 50, 50% 55 FOOT LOTS, NOW WE'RE ONLY 25% 55 FOOT LOTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT. SO OVERALL WE INCREASED THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE DRAMATICALLY. THAT'S ALSO SO THAT HAS TAKEN US NOW TO A TOTAL OF 230 LOTS. THAT'S 2.26 UNITS TO THE ACRE. WE'VE INCREASED THE OPEN SPACE TO 22 ACRES, NOT INCLUDING THE PONDS. AND NEARLY 30 ACRES. WHEN YOU INCLUDE THE STORMWATER AREAS. 
          WE UPDATED. ALSO, THIS IS JUST A SAME GRAPHIC. WE UPDATED KIND OF THE OPEN SPACE PLANS, ALL THE OTHER PLANS. THE OTHER THING THAT THAT DID IS WE MADE THOSE CHANGES. I THINK WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS COMPARISON THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, BUT NOW FROM A DENSITY STANDPOINT, WE ARE ABSOLUTELY LOWER THAN ANY OF THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENTS. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR TOTAL DENSITY, THE DENSITIES AROUND US ARE KIND OF MIXED IN TERMS OF THE THREE SEPARATE PROJECTS THAT ARE TO THE NORTH OF US, ONE IS AT THREE AND A HALF UNITS TO THE ACRE, ONES AT 2.44 UNITS TO THE ACRE ONES AT 2.71 UNITS TO THE ACRE. SO NOW AT 2.26 UNITS TO THE ACRE, WE ARE QUITE A BIT LOWER THAN THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENTS, AND WE'VE INCORPORATED QUITE A BIT MORE OPEN SPACE THAN WHAT A LOT OF THE OPEN, WHAT A LOT OF THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENTS INCORPORATE. SO WE CAN UNEQUIVOCALLY SAY FROM A COMPATIBILITY STANDPOINT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE'VE CREATED HERE IS VERY, VERY COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE KIND OF EXISTING. AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT EVERYBODY KIND OF LOOKS AT THE HARD WORK THAT WE'VE PUT IN AND, AND KIND OF AGREES THAT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS, IS GOING TO FIT INTO THE COMMUNITY VERY NICELY. THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE ADDED THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT THE LAST TIME, BUT WE NEVER REALLY GOT TO THAT POINT. NOW THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE BUILDER, I THINK EVERYBODY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO KAY HOVNANIAN. I THINK MAYBE 1 OR 2 OF YOU MIGHT EVEN HAVE BEEN TO THE OTHER PROJECT THAT THEY INVITED YOU TO KIND OF SEEN THEIR DEVELOPMENTS. BUT THE ONE THING THAT WE HADN'T REALLY BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP AT THAT POINT IN TIME WAS ANY SORT OF AN AMENITY. WE DID INCLUDE A COUPLE OF AMENITIES. THEY STARTED DOING THEIR INITIAL EXPLORATION ON AMENITIES. WE INCLUDED A BASICALLY A PLAY AREA OR, YOU KNOW, A PLAY SET FOR SMALLER CHILDREN UP IN THE MAIN OPEN SPACE IN THE CENTER. WE'VE ALSO INCORPORATED A KIND OF AN OPEN SHELTER DOWN ALONG THE POND WHERE PEOPLE CAN KIND OF SIT, LOOK OUT OVER THE POND, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE WE MAY FURTHER REFINE THIS BECAUSE, AGAIN, THIS THIS HAS TO GO FORWARD TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. SO WE MAY LOOK AT SOME OTHER OPTIONS AS WE GO FORWARD. 
          BUT THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW FROM OUR PATH SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BENCHES, 
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WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THOSE THINGS KIND OF INCORPORATED INTO THE OPEN SPACE NETWORK. 
          THOSE ARE KIND OF A MAJORITY OF THE CHANGES. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE JUST AN EXAMPLE. THE PLAYSETS, THE PAVILION, YOU KNOW, BENCHES, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. WE ALSO, I THINK, MR. BORDNER, YOU BROUGHT THIS UP THE LAST TIME YOU WANTED TO SEE THIS EXHIBIT UPDATED TO INCLUDE NOT ONLY THE RIGHT HAND TURN DATA, BUT THE LEFT HAND TURN DATA. SO WE DID UPDATE THIS AS YOU REQUESTED, JUST TO SHOW THAT WE HAVE CLEAR SIGHT LINES IN BOTH DIRECTIONS, BOTH FOR PEOPLE TURNING LEFT OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND FOR PEOPLE TURNING RIGHT OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT SIGHT TRIANGLE. NOW ON THAT DOCUMENT FROM A LIST OF CHANGES STANDPOINT, JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT REAL QUICK. WE DID SEND A LETTER EARLIER TODAY. AND THERE'S REALLY A TOTAL ESSENTIALLY OF SEVEN ITEMS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COUNCIL TO VOTE ON THIS EVENING. SO ONE ITEM, ONE WAS REDUCED THE NUMBER OF SINGLE FAMILY LOTS FROM A TOTAL OF 250 TO 230, WHICH REDUCES THE DENSITY FROM 2.45 UNITS AN ACRE TO 2.26 UNITS AN ACRE. NUMBER TWO IS INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE, NOT INCLUDING THE PONDS, FROM APPROXIMATELY 20.85 ACRES TO 22.83 ACRES, SO AN ADDITIONAL TWO ACRES THERE. 
          NUMBER THREE MODIFY THE PROPOSED LAYOUT OF THE COMMUNITY TO INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING. I DIDN'T QUITE KNOW HOW TO CAPTURE THIS BECAUSE THERE WERE A NUMBER OF CHANGES MADE, SO I JUST TRIED TO LUMP IT AS A WHOLE. SHIFT THE MAIN ENTRY FURTHER SOUTH, AND ADD A BOULEVARD SECTION TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE. DRIVE B REMOVE ALL LOTS FROM THE MAIN ENTRANCE, DRIVE INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. C INCREASE THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE BY ELIMINATING 50% OF THE 55 FOOT LOTS, WHILE INCREASING THE NUMBER OF 66 AND 70 FOOT LOTS. NUMBER FOUR INCORPORATE THE WEAVER ROAD ODOT SITE DISTANCE EXHIBIT TO INDICATE SITE DISTANCE COMPLIANCE. NUMBER FIVE ADD PLAYGROUND AND PAVILION AMENITIES AS SHOWN ON THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          NUMBER SIX MODIFIED THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TEXT TO REFLECT THE ABOVE CHANGES IN THE PROPOSED MAXIMUM LOT COUNT AND THE DEVELOPMENT DENSITY NUMBER SEVEN. MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD TEXT TO INCLUDE GARDEN SHEDS AS AN APPROVED ACCESSORY. USE SUBJECT TO THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE TRAILS THAT WE'VE AGREED. HOA, AND I KNOW THAT COMMENT. I THINK, HANK, YOU BROUGHT THAT UP ABOUT GARDEN SHEDS. WE DO WANT TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO INCLUDE THEM, BUT THEY WILL BE TIGHTLY CONTROLLED BY THE HOA IN TERMS OF THE SIZE AND THE DESIGN OF THE GARDEN SHEDS. YOU HAD ASKED ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT WE SAID THAT WE WOULD GET AN ANSWER TO YOU TONIGHT, AND THAT WAS THE DISPOSITION OF THE HOA. AND WHEN THE HOA WOULD BE TURNED OVER FOR THIS BUILDER, THEY WANT TO TURN THE HOA OVER AFTER THE LAST LOT IS SOLD, ESSENTIALLY FOR THEM. THEY WANT TO MAINTAIN CONTROL OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE MAINTENANCE OF ALL OF THE OPEN SPACE AREAS AS THEY SELL THROUGH THE COMMUNITY. AND ONCE THE LOTS ARE SOLD, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO TURN THAT OVER TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE PROFESSIONAL, YOU KNOW, HOA MANAGEMENT COMPANY. SO THAT'S THEIR THAT'S THEIR PREFERENCE. AND I CAN IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS ME TO GO THROUGH, I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. 
          EVERYTHING ELSE PRIMARILY IS THE SAME. THE SIGNAGE, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HASN'T REALLY CHANGED. IT WAS PRIMARILY JUST THE LAYOUT AND THE DENSITY NUMBERS AND THE LOT SIZES. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, JUST A COMMENT. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THIS IS IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURES. SURE. VERY MUCH THE SAME AS WHAT WE REVIEWED LAST WEEK. THEY GOT A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK. SO I APPRECIATE THE YOU LISTENING. LISTENING I WASN'T TALKING TO YOU. I THOUGHT YOU WERE. SO SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT. I LIKE THE BOULEVARD. I LIKE THAT YOU'RE YOU INCORPORATED WHAT APPEARS TO BE SIDEWALKS BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING WALKABILITY THROUGH, YOU KNOW, EVEN SOME OF THE COUNTRY RESIDENTS GETTING UP INTO, YOU KNOW, ADINA POINT AND EVEN UP INTO TOWN. SO IT REALLY KIND OF CHECKS THE CONNECTIVITY BOX. WE TALKED ABOUT CONCRETE DRIVEWAYS THAT'S REMAINS UNCHANGED. NINE FOOT TREE LAWNS, VARIABILITY IN THE ELEVATIONS ON THE ROOF ROOF HEIGHTS. SO THAT WAS CHECKED. PREMIUM MATERIALS WERE BEING OFFERED ON 
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ALL OF THESE. HOMES. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT FRONT PORCHES. I THINK I STILL SAW 12 BY FOUR. 
          YEP. THE THE THE CHALLENGE FOR THE BUILDER IS ADDING THAT ADDITIONAL TWO FOOT OF DEPTH CHANGES SOME OF THE FLOOR PLANS. AND FROM FOR THE BUILDER, THAT'S A DIFFICULT THING TO DO, ESPECIALLY FOR A NATIONAL BUILDER. OKAY. AND THEN I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT GARAGES BEING SET BACK FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, INCLUDING DECORATIVE HARDWARE AND WINDOWS. YEAH. AND I SAW YOU HAD IT. DID THE TEXT SAY THAT SIDE LOADED GARAGES ON ALL CORNER LOTS. IS THAT IS THAT WHAT I RECALL? YES. SIDE LOADED CORNERS ON ALL ON ALL CORNER LOTS. I'M SORRY. SIDE LOADED GARAGES ON ALL CORNER LOTS. UNLESS THERE'S SOME SORT OF A ENGINEERING REASON. THE CITY ENGINEER SAYS, HEY, WE GOT A UTILITY THERE. YOU CAN'T DO IT. YEAH, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. YEAH. UNDERSTAND? AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE. I MEAN, FROM THE TIME THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS CAME FORWARD AT 266 DOWN TO 230. SO IT'S ROUGHLY A 15% REDUCTION IN OVERALL DENSITY. 
          SO THAT I THOUGHT THAT WAS THAT WAS GOOD. SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD MANY PEOPLE SPEAK IN FAVOR TO THIS WHO WERE COMING IN TO OPPOSE THIS A WEEK AND A HALF AGO OR A WEEK, I GUESS, A WEEK AGO. SO I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING. AND THE ONLY I GUESS I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. 
          THERE WAS A PART OF THE TEXT THAT I READ THIS MORNING ABOUT 3 A.M. THAT SAID, THAT'S A LATE NIGHT. I KNOW IT WAS AN EARLY MORNING IS WHAT IT WAS. YEAH. DON'T GET PEOPLE TALKING, BUT IT SAID THAT THE THE PUD WOULD BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION, I THINK, 1135 OF, OF THE EXISTING ZONING CODE. WE WORKED WITH THE CITY LAW DIRECTOR ON THAT LANGUAGE. THERE WAS I THINK HANK RAISED A QUESTION ABOUT IT THE LAST TIME. AND SO WE MODIFIED THAT LANGUAGE KIND OF IN AT THE DIRECTION OF THE THE LAW DIRECTOR. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS IF IT DEFAULTS TO MARYSVILLE ZONING, WOULD IT BE AS AMENDED OR AS IT IS SITTING LIKE RIGHT NOW? OKAY. 
          SO WE WE WE YOU PROPOSED YOU PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT, MR. SMITH. AND THEN WE TALKED AND I I'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION ALSO WITH MR. BURBY ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I THINK HE RAISED IT ORIGINALLY, AND IT'S CLEAR THAT IT DID NOT CREATE A CONFLICT. SO THE LANGUAGE IN THE PUD TEXT IS NOT IT'S ACTUALLY ALIGNED WITH THE WITH WITH THE, THE CODIFIED ORDINANCE. SO YOU JUST THE ANY ANY IF THERE'S ANY CONFLICT, THE PROVISION IN THE PUD WOULD SUPERSEDE OR OR PREVAIL OVER THE, THE PROVISION THAT'S IT'S IN CONFLICT WITH IN THE GENERAL CODIFIED ORDINANCES OR ZONING ORDINANCES. AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT, 1135 I THINK IT'S OH FOUR SAYS AS WELL, BUT REALLY. 1130 504 DEALS WITH THE CREATION OF A PUD ADMINISTRATIVELY AND THE PROCESS. AND SO THAT'S REALLY DIFFERENT. IT'S KIND OF LIKE APPLES AND ORANGES. WHAT WHAT THE LANGUAGE IN THIS PUD TEXT SAYS IS THAT ANY PROVISION AS IT RELATES TO DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OR DESIGN STANDARDS WOULD PREVAIL OVER A CONFLICTING PROVISION IN THE GENERAL ORDINANCE OR THE ZONING CODE. SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS NO CHANGES NEEDED TO BE MADE. OKAY. SO I GUESS TO SUMMARIZE IT, I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING. FOUR WEEKS AGO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, I DIDN'T THINK THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET ANYWHERE. I THINK WE GOT SOMEWHERE. WE HEARD IT LAST WEEK. A LOT OF PEOPLE IN FAVOR FOR THIS, A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT SUPPORTING, YOU KNOW, SAINT JOHN'S AND THEIR INITIATIVES AS WELL. SO THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MY MY QUESTION IS HOW DID GARDEN SHEDS GET PUT IN HERE? HANK HANK BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION AT THE LAST MEETING, THE PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT GARDEN SHEDS. TO CLARIFY, WE HAD NOT HAD ANYTHING IN THERE FOR GARDEN SHEDS. AND IN TALKING WITH THE BUILDER, THEY WANTED TO ALLOW FOR THEM, POTENTIALLY BECAUSE I THINK, HANK, NO, YOU KNOW, MENTIONED A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, HAVE TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE AND SOME STORAGE, SO THEY MIGHT NEED A PLACE TO PUT RAKES OR A LAWNMOWER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE WANTED TO ALLOW FOR THAT AS A 
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PERMITTED ACCESSORY USE. BUT THEN AGAIN, REALLY CONTROL HOW THEY LOOK, WHERE THEY SET, HOW BIG THEY CAN BE THROUGH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. SO IT CAME OUT OF OUR LAST MEETING. 
          YEAH. MY MY ONLY FEAR ABOUT GARDEN SHEDS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ONLY AS GOOD AS YOUR HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION. SAME WITH YOUR CITY IS ONLY LOOKS GOOD IF YOUR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE STANDARDS ARE WELL, WELL EXECUTED. AS YOU KNOW, MARYSVILLE HAS AN ISSUE. SO YOU KNOW, GARDEN SHEDS. YOU KNOW THEY'RE GREAT WHEN THEY FIRST GO IN. BUT THEN IF IT'S NOT PROPERLY MAINTAINED, IT CAN BE AN EYESORE. YEAH. AND SO YOU KNOW I BUT I WANTED I JUST WANTED TO SAY IS, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU CREATING ALL THAT GREEN SPACE OUT HERE ON THE WEAVER ROAD, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH NICER THAT SCENERY WILL BE COMPARED TO WHAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN AND HOW MUCH BETTER IF ALL OF IT LOOKED LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THAT GATEWAY COMING INTO TOWN COULD BE SO MUCH. IT'D BE BETTER ENHANCED IF WE HAD THAT SAME TYPE OF THINKING WHEN WE DEVELOPED ALL THE WAY UP INTO THE TOWN, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU GET INTO CHESTNUT, THE HOUSE IS BACK RIGHT UP ONTO CHESTNUT, AND HOW MUCH NICER IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IF WE HAD. SO I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES THERE'S PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE HEARTBURN WITH THE WAY COUNCIL KIND OF SCRUTINIZES DEVELOPMENTS. BUT THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE WE WANT DEVELOPMENTS TO IMPROVE AND BE MORE ESTHETICALLY PLEASING WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH TOWN, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT AND AS YOUR TOWN GROWS AND AS MORE PEOPLE GET ELECTED TO COUNCIL, THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE AND MORE AND DIFFERENT MINDSETS OF HOW HOW THE HOW THE HOW THIS COMMUNITY SHOULD BE DEVELOPED. NOW, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS A COUNCIL IS WITH HELP OF RESIDENTS. AND AS YOU HEAR FROM THE PARK LEVY, THAT WE ALWAYS GET MORE RESPONSES THAN WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, WOULD NORMALLY GET FOR A COMMUNITY OF OUR SIZE. RESIDENTS ARE VERY PASSIONATE ON HOW WE DEVELOP. AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT IDENTITY, MASTER PLANNING IS WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW TO ENSURE THAT NO MATTER WHO'S ELECTED, THERE IS A PROPER PROCESS AND A PROPER GUIDELINE IN HOW THIS COMMUNITY SHOULD BE DEVELOPED. IN A WAY, IT PROTECTS COMMUNITY IMAGE AND SMALL TOWN VALUES AND CHARACTER. SO I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, OVERALL, THIS IS A GOOD DEVELOPMENT. AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND HAVING THE CONSIDERATION TO CHANGE. AND SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE HAVE, HAVE TO SAY. I JUST HAVE A LITTLE CONCERNS WITH GARDEN SHEDS, THAT'S ALL. I APPRECIATE THOSE KIND WORDS. ON THE GARDEN SHED ISSUE. I WILL SAY IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT I THINK YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO VOTE ON THESE SEVEN ITEMS INDIVIDUALLY. SO, YOU KNOW, IF A NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON COUNCIL ARE AGAINST THE GARDEN SHEDS, WE'RE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT GOING TO LIVE AND DIE BASED ON THE GARDEN SHED. SO IF THE COUNCIL DETERMINES THAT THEY DON'T LIKE IT AND YOU DON'T APPROVE THE AMENDMENT, WE UNDERSTAND. I WILL JUST SAY THAT GARDEN SHEDS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORING NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY'RE ENFORCED IN THE DEED RESTRICTIONS WITHIN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WHERE I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN, I THINK THAT HOMES THAT STARTED 550 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN THEIR PROPERTY. SO THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S OKAY. OKAY. SO JUST IF I MAY MR. YEAH. 
          WE HAVE WE TOOK THAT LIST. IF WE COULD PUT THAT LIST BACK UP ON THE SCREEN, AND WE'LL REFER TO THIS AS, AS BASICALLY EXHIBIT A, WHICH WILL BE BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD AND OF COURSE PART OF THE MINUTES. AND WE CAN REFER TO THE AMENDMENTS INDIVIDUALLY AS, AS THEY'RE NUMBERED ON THE EXHIBIT. AND THESE, THESE OF COURSE, ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR STATEMENTS OR SUMMARIES OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, THE, THE THESE AMENDMENTS THEN WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE PUD TEXT ONCE THEY PASS ALONG WITH THE REVISED SITE PLANS THAT YOU'VE SHOWN. SO THE BEST WAY I THINK TO HANDLE THIS, MR. BURGER, WOULD BE TO ADDRESS EACH AMENDMENT INDIVIDUALLY. AND AND THEN AFTER THE AMENDMENTS ARE ADDRESSED, WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DO NEXT. BUT BASICALLY IF ANY AMENDMENT PASSES, IT WILL GO BACK TO THE LEGISLATION, WILL GO BACK TO SECOND READING, PUBLIC HEARING AS AMENDED. SO INDIVIDUALLY. OR 
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DO YOU WANT TO. NO, I, I KNOW I, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO PIECEMEAL THESE TO DO EACH TO HANDLE EACH AMENDMENT INDIVIDUALLY. SO YOU'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE, WHICH AGAIN, AND IS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF SINGLE FAMILY LOTS FROM A TOTAL OF 250 TO 230, ETC. SO YOU CAN REFER TO THE AMENDMENTS AS THEY'RE NUMBERED ON THIS EXHIBIT, BECAUSE THIS EXHIBIT WILL BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD, AND THEN WE WILL GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS AFTER WE DO ALL SEVEN. YES. OKAY. AND IF I MAY REMIND MY COLLEAGUES THAT, WELL, I'M SORRY, LET ME YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN CAN COMMENT ON ON THE EACH AMENDMENT INDIVIDUALLY. BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SECOND READING PUBLIC COMMENTS. YEAH. 
          THAT WOULD BE AFTER ALL OF THEM. YEAH. OKAY. DID YOU CAN I MAKE MY REMINDER NOW. IS THAT OKAY. 
          YOU CAN ASK THE PRESIDENT MR. MR. BURGER OKAY. I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THIS IS WHAT WE HEARD POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM LAST WEEK. SO JUST REMEMBER THAT WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THESE AMENDMENTS, WE'RE AMENDING THE TEXT, NOT APPROVING THE LEGISLATION. SO THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT. I MOVE TO APPROVE AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. OKAY. ROLL CALL, MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. WOLFF. YES. MR. BURR YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REMES YES. MISS KRAMER. YES. SEVEN. YES. MR. PRESIDENT, A MOTION TO PASS THE SECOND AMENDMENT AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN TO INCREASE OPEN SPACE. ROLL CALL. MR. WOLFF. YES. MR. BURR YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REMES YES. MISS KRAMER. YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. SEVEN. YES. 
          MR. VANCE, THE THIRD AMENDMENT ROLL CALL. MR. BURR YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REMES YES. MISS KRAMER YES. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLFF. YES. SEVEN. YES. MR. PRESIDENT, I MAKE A MOTION TO THE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU, MR. KRAMER. ROLL CALL, MR. BURGER. YES, MR. HUNTER? YES, MR. REMES. YES, MISS KRAMER. YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. WOLF. YES. MR. BURBY. 
          YES. SEVEN. YES. MR. PRESIDENT, I MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE FIFTH AMENDMENT. THANK YOU, MR. WOLF. ROLL CALL, MR. HUNTER. YES, MR. REMES? YES, MISS KRAMER. YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. 
          MR. WOLF. YES. MR. BURBY YES. MR. BURGER YES. SEVEN. YES, MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE SIXTH AMENDMENT. THANK YOU, MR. HUNTER. ROLL CALL, MR. REMES. YES, MISS KRAMER? YES. MR. BORDNER. YES, MR. WOLF. YES. MR. BURBY. YES. MR. BURGER YES. AND MR. HUNTER. 
          YES. SEVEN. YES. MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE SEVENTH AMENDMENT. THANK YOU, MR. HUNTER. THE SEVENTH IS GARDEN SHEDS. SO AS I BEFORE I VOTE, I'M TAKING WHAT YOU SAID IN CONSIDERATION. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO THANK YOU. I WOULD I HOPE TO NOT SEE ANY GARDEN SHEDS IN 20 YEARS FALLING DOWN. ROLL CALL, MR. KRAMER. YES, MR. BORDNER? YES. 
          MR. WOLF. YES. MR. BURBY. YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REMES YES. SEVEN. YES. OKAY. 
          NOW, ONCE THE NOW THAT THE LEGISLATION HAS BEEN AMENDED, NOW IT'S BACK FOR SECOND READING, WHICH IS NOW PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF ANYBODY OUT THERE WANTS TO SPEAK, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO. MR. SCHNEIDER. THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. 
          DALE SCHNEIDER 1021 STATE ROUTE 736. I WAS PLEASED, AS WERE MANY, BY THE CONVERSATION THAT 
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THE PUBLIC HEARING TWO WEEKS AGO. I FEEL OUR DEVELOPER HAS LISTENED TO THE COMMENTS AND REQUESTS OF ALL OF YOU, AS WELL AS THE CITIZENS, AND GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS RECOMMENDED CHANGES IN THE CASE THAT A REQUEST COULD NOT BE ACCOMMODATED. THERE WAS NOT ONLY A THOROUGH EXPLANATION OF THE REASONING, BUT A PLAN THAT PROVIDED A REASONABLE AND ADEQUATE ALTERNATIVE. IT WAS VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS WHO PREVIOUSLY EXPRESSED THEIR OBJECTION, WERE SATISFIED WITH THE NEWLY SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS TO THE PLAN AND NOW SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I WILL SAY I AM SKEPTICAL OF THE COMMENTS OF ONE OF THE RESIDENTS REGARDING THE TRAFFIC ON WEAVER ROAD THAT STATED, PEOPLE GO 75 TO 80MPH A LOT OF TIMES. CERTAINLY CANNOT SAY THIS NEVER HAPPENS, BUT IF IT WHEN IT DOES, I FEEL IT'S MORE OF A LAW ENFORCEMENT ISSUE THAN IT IS A DRIVEWAY ISSUE. AS I SHARED IN MY COMMENTS AT THE FIRST MEETING, MY FAMILY'S SOLE MOTIVATION FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY IS OUR PASSION FOR THE MISSION OF SAINT JOHN'S LUTHERAN SCHOOL, AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM SOME OF THE FACES IN THE AUDIENCE, A LOT OF PEOPLE SHARE THAT PASSION. I'VE STATED BEFORE THAT SAINT JOHN'S DOES NOT FALL WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR DECISION DEALS PRIMARILY WITH THE ZONING AND PLANNED USE OF THIS PROPERTY. YOUR WARDS AND JURISDICTION ARE BOUNDED BY THE BORDERS OF THE CITY LIMITS. BUT I APPEAL TO YOU THAT MARYSVILLE IS NOT A TERRITORY, BUT A COMMUNITY. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE ON THE EDGE OF THESE BORDERS, OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, BUT VERY MUCH CONSIDER MARYSVILLE THEIR HOME. YOUR DECISIONS WITHIN THE BORDERS DO INDEED AFFECT THOSE ON THE OUTSIDE. WAS GRATIFIED TO RECEIVE RANDOM COMMENTS THIS PAST WEEK FROM FRIENDS I RESPECT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, EXPRESSING THEIR APPROVAL OF THE AMENDED PLAN WITH WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT FOR ITS PASSAGE. AS YOU CONSIDER THIS PROPOSAL IN ITS FINAL DRAFT, I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE WAIVING OF THE THIRD READING AND A VOTE ON THE AMENDED PLAN THIS EVENING. IT DELAY UNTIL AN UPCOMING MEETING PRESENTS THE RISK OF POSSIBLE ABSENCE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND IT IS IMPORTANT FOR ME, FOR IMPORTANT TO ME, FOR ALL OF YOU TO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS YOUR VOTE. I DOUBT THAT ANYTHING YOU'VE EVER CONSIDERED, OR EVER WILL, IN YOUR POSITION, WILL HAVE 100% SATISFACTION FROM ALL PARTIES. BUT I FEEL THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU IS THE PRODUCT OF A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO APPEAL TO ALL. AND AS YOU EVALUATE EVERYTHING THAT THE TRAILS THAT WE WERE RIDGE HAS TO OFFER, I ASK THAT YOU ALSO CONSIDER THE GREATER GOOD OF THIS PROPOSAL AND ITS RESIDUAL BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, AND I THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TONIGHT? OKAY. HEARING NONE, MR. PRESIDENT I'LL MOVE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE THIRD READING. OKAY. ROLL CALL, MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. WOLF. YES. MR. BURBY YES, MR. BURGER YES. 
          MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REAMES YES. MISS KRAMER. YES. SEVEN. YES. BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE PASS, THE LEGISLATION, I'LL JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO MR. SCHNEIDER, IN A WORLD FULL OF INDIVIDUALISM, YOU HAVE GRACIOUSLY, GRACIOUSLY PROVIDED YOUR CONGREGATION, YOUR CHURCH, A LEGACY. AND YOU SHOULD, NO MATTER HOW IT'S VOTED, YOU SHOULD BE RAISING YOUR HEAD VERY HIGH. NOT TO SAY THAT ONE GIFT IS NOT HIGHER THAN ANOTHER, BUT YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO NOT ONLY ENHANCE YOUR OWN FAME, YOUR WEALTH, BUT YOUR FAMILY'S WEALTH, AND INSTEAD YOU HAVE TURNED AND DECIDED THAT SOMETHING WAS GREATER THAN YOURSELF. IN A WORLD OF LOUD VOICES AND INDIVIDUALISM AND EVERYBODY WANTING TO BE EMPOWERED, I WOULD SAY THAT YOU GIVE EVERY SHOULD GIVE EVERYBODY HOPE THAT THIS COUNTRY IS IN A BETTER PLACE BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY BEFORE WE HAVE A VOTE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DUE DILIGENCE, NOT ONLY TO YOURSELF AND TO YOUR CONGREGATION, BUT TO THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE IN UNION COUNTY AS A WHOLE. IS THERE A MOTION TO TO PASS THIS LEGISLATION AS AMENDED? MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION AS AMENDED. ROLL CALL. MR. WOLFF. YES. MR. BURBY. YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REMES YES. MISS. 
          KRAMER YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. SEVEN. YES. THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES. ORDINANCE C C THIRD 
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READING VOTE TO APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE. APPENDIX. GLOSSARY OF TERMS. ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING FURTHER. COUNCIL. IS IS THERE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION? OKAY. 
          ROLL CALL, MR. BURBY. YES, MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. RAIMES YES. MISS KRAMER YES. 
          MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLFE YES. SEVEN. YES. ORDINANCE D ORDINANCE D THIRD READING VOTE 
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TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11, ZONING CODE, SECTION 1105.041 NOTIFICATION TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION AND PROPERTY OWNERS, SECTION 1105.111 RESERVED. 
          SECTION 1131.09 BE PROCEDURE FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BEFORE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. SECTION 1133. 06C EXTERIOR PLAN APPLICATION. SECTION 1135.12 PUBLIC NOTIFICATION. SECTION 1135. 15C FILING OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SECTION 1141.20 NOTICE TO PARTIES AND INTEREST. SECTION 1141.26 PROCEDURE FOR HEARING NOTICE. SECTION 1141 ADMINISTRATION AND PROCEDURES AND SECTION 1141.37 ZONING AMENDMENT NOTICE TO PROPERTY OWNERS BY COUNCIL ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING FURTHER. COUNCIL IS THERE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION? MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. ROLL CALL, MR. BURGER. YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REMES YES. MISS KRAMER YES. MR. BORDNER YES. 
          MR. WOLFE YES. MR. RUBY YES. SEVEN. YES. ORDINANCE E, ORDINANCE E, THIRD READING VOTE 
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TO APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE, SECTION 1141.38 ZONING AMENDMENT ACTION BY COUNCIL. ADMINISTRATION. 
          NOTHING FURTHER. COUNCIL THERE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. THANK YOU, MR. HUNTER. WELL, ROLL CALL, MR. HUNTER. YES, MR. REMES? YES, MISS KRAMER. YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. WOLFE. YES. MR. BURBY YES. MR. BURGER? YES. SEVEN. YES. ORDINANCE F. ORDINANCE F THIRD READING VOTE TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE 
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AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE SECTION 1123.06 DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM. ADMINISTRATION. 
          NOTHING FURTHER. COUNCIL. MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. THANK YOU, MR. HUNTER. ROLL CALL, MR. AMES. YES, MISS. KRAMER? YES, MR. BORDNER. YES, MR. WOLF. YES. 
          MR. BURBY YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. SEVEN. YES. ORDINANCE G, ORDINANCE G FIRST 
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READING INTRODUCTION TO APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION THAT NO AMENDMENT BE MADE TO SECTION 1141.27 ACTION BY PLANNING COMMISSION. MR. SPEAKING FOR ADMINISTRATION OKAY. I CAN GIVE SOME UPDATES HERE ON THESE NEXT FIRST READINGS. I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT QUICK SINCE WE'VE HAD A LONG AGENDA TONIGHT. JENNIFER, IS THIS THE CORRECT CLICKER HERE. YES. OKAY. GREAT. I HAVE TURNED OFF. OKAY THERE IT GOES. GREAT. SO WE'LL HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS TONIGHT. FOUR DIFFERENT FIRST READINGS FOR THE FIRST ONE. THIS IS THE ONE THAT COUNCILMAN HUNTER ASKED ABOUT. IT WAS AN ACTION BY CITY COUNCIL TO SEND OVER A REQUEST TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE CONDITIONAL QUANTITY OF CONDITIONAL USE VOTES. SO WE WERE REQUESTING TWO THIRDS IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. SO A SUPERMAJORITY, I THINK COUNCIL'S THOUGHT WAS THAT WANTED SOME ADDITIONAL CONSENSUS SINCE THEY ARE CONDITIONAL USE VOTES, WANTED SOME ADDITIONAL CONSENSUS AMONGST THOSE BOARD MEMBERS. SO 
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JUST A LITTLE HISTORY PRIOR TO THE ZONING CODE 2020, CONDITIONS USED TO GO THROUGH BZA. AND THOSE WERE SUPERMAJORITY VOTES. SO THAT'S THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND. THIS FIRST WAS BROUGHT TO PLANNING COMMISSION ON AUGUST 5TH. THE VOTE WAS 3 TO 3. AND IT WAS GOING TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE RULES AND PROCEDURES. SINCE THAT WAS DENIED, WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH CITY COUNCIL AND THE REQUEST OR THE INITIATION OF THAT AMENDMENT WAS THEN BROUGHT TO PLANNING COMMISSION TO ACTUALLY ADD IT INTO THE ZONING CODE. AND IT WAS HEARD AT PLANNING COMMISSION EARLIER THIS MONTH, AND IT WAS DENIED 0 TO 7. THEIR THOUGHT WAS THAT CONDITIONAL USES ARE ALREADY OUTLINED WITHIN THE ZONING CODE, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE REVIEWING. AND TYPICALLY THEY HAVE KIND OF OFTEN AGREEMENT AMONGST MOST OF THOSE MEMBERS AND EITHER AN APPROVAL OR DENIAL ON THAT. SO THEY FELT LIKE THEY WANTED TO JUST MAINTAIN IT AS IS IN THE IN THE ZONING CODE AS MAJORITY. ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL COMMENT. GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD SO THE RECORD HERE THIS OF COURSE WAS INITIATED BY COUNCIL BY RESOLUTION AND COUNCIL ASKED PLANNING COMMISSION TO CONSIDER. CHANGING THE NUMBER OF VOTES TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE FROM FROM 4 TO 5. I WE TRIED TO DRAFT THESE THINGS IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. SO BEFORE YOU IS ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THEIR RECOMMENDATION THAT NO CHANGE TO 1141 .27 BE MADE. AND IF YOU REMEMBER THE THE CHANGE THAT THAT YOU THE REQUESTED CHANGE THAT YOU SENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION WAS BASICALLY A SENTENCE ADDED ON AT THE VERY END. 1141 .27 SO THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL IS THAT 1140 127 REMAIN INTACT WITHOUT THAT ADDED LANGUAGE. SO NO CHANGE AT ALL. IT'S JUST A MAJORITY. DISAPPROVING OR VOTING NO IS NOT IS JUST DOESN'T DO ANYTHING AT ALL. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU CAN BECAUSE THIS ORDINANCE IS GOING TO REMAIN IN PLACE WHETHER YOU VOTE YES OR NO. IF COUNCIL WANTS TO CHANGE THE RECOMMENDATION TO SOMETHING THAT ALIGNS WITH WHAT YOUR ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS, THAT A MOTION TO AMEND WOULD HAVE TO PASS AND IT WOULD REQUIRE SIX VOTES. OKAY, SO I JUST WANTED TO LAY THAT OUT THERE FOR YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH. MR. PRESIDENT, SO I WANT TO THANK YOU. SO I SPOKE ABOUT THIS WHEN IT HAD COME THROUGH COUNCIL AND I WANTED TO CLARIFY SOME OF MY REMARKS THEN, WHICH WAS IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM WOULD I SEE THIS AS COUNCIL TRYING TO STEAMROLL OUR PLANNING COMMISSION. I THINK THAT WAS A RESIDENT, OR THAT THERE WAS A RESIDENT COMMENT ABOUT THAT, BOTH HERE AT COUNCIL AS WELL AS AT PLANNING COMMISSION, GIVEN I THINK I DISAGREE WITH THAT RESPECT. RESIDENTS COMMENTS ALWAYS, BUT I DON'T ALWAYS AGREE. I THINK WHAT I HAD DESCRIBED WAS WE'VE HAVE WE HAVE CONSTITUENTS QUESTIONING SOMETIMES CONDITIONAL USE APPROVALS. AND WHY CAN'T WE STRENGTHEN THE PROCESS. YOU'RE IN, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF THE THE NATURE OF THE COMMENTS ARE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ON CITY COUNCIL. YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD CALL THE SHOTS HERE. BUT IN FACT, THE REALITY IS WE HAVE AN INDEPENDENT BOARD HERE AND THEY'RE REVIEWING THESE. SO HOW CAN WE STRENGTHEN THAT BOARD. THIS IS WHAT WAS BROUGHT FORTH. AND YOU CAN SEE BACK IN AUGUST IT WAS INITIATED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IT RECEIVED A33 VOTE. SO THAT TELLS ME THAT THE DISCUSSION WAS THAT THERE'S SOME CONSIDERATION WITHIN PLANNING COMMISSION TO STRENGTHEN THIS THEMSELVES. WHEN THIS WAS INITIATED BY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, I MADE COMMENTS, I ADVANTAGE OF US HAVING LIVE STREAMING IS WE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THESE MEETINGS. SO I WATCHED THIS MEETING. I MAKE IT A POINT TO NOT I DON'T KNOW RIGHT OR WRONG, BUT I MADE IT A POINT TO NOT GO BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE THERE COULD BE SOME SORT OF INTIMIDATION BY, YOU KNOW, A COUNCIL MEMBER PRESIDENT WHO'S SPONSORING THIS. 
          AND I WANTED TO SEE THE PROCESS PLAY OUT. AND IN THAT MEETING, I REMEMBER ONE OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS HAD SAID, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? I DON'T UNDERSTAND. AND THERE WAS A STAFF COMMENT MADE THAT, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY THIS STARTED OUT AS COUNCIL WANTING TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USES. AND I WOULD SAY THAT COMMENT WAS INACCURATE. IT WAS 
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DISCUSSED AND I, COUNCILMAN BURGER, HAD COME TO A PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETING AND WE HAD OPEN DIALOG AMONGST THE MEMBERS THERE, AND IT WAS EXPLORATORY DIALOG. SO WE WERE CONSIDERING METHODS AND WAYS TO ENHANCE THE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR CONDITIONAL USES AND HAVING COUNCIL APPROVE THEM WAS A PATHWAY, CERTAINLY THAT COULD BE ENTERTAINED. BUT IN THAT MEETING, WE DID NOT COME OUT OF THERE SAYING THAT WAS A PATH WE WERE GOING TO PURSUE, NOR WAS THAT THE ACTION OF COUNCIL. SO IT DID NOT START OUT LIKE THAT. THAT WAS A MERE SUGGESTION IN AN EXPLORATORY CONVERSATION, HAVING DIALOG AMONGST MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE. SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT'S NOT TO REBUKE ANYONE FROM SAYING SOMETHING, IT'S JUST CLARIFYING WHAT THE REALITY WAS, IS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO EXPLORE WAYS, YOU KNOW, TO AS THIS HAD PROGRESSED THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION, KIND OF THIS, THIS THOUGHT OF, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL IS TRYING TO STEAMROLL PLANNING COMMISSION AND MAKE THESE DECISIONS, YOU KNOW, AND THE POINT THAT YOU BRING UP HERE WAS MENTIONED ABOUT, WELL, CONDITIONAL USES ARE ALREADY IN THE CODE. THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THERE FOR A REASON. SO WHY SHOULD WE HAVE A SUPERMAJORITY TO PASS? WELL, I JUST WANT TO REMIND FOLKS THAT ABOUT A YEAR AGO, COUNCIL HAD PROPOSED AN AMENDMENT TO I BELIEVE IT'S THE REGIONAL MIXED USE DISTRICT. IT'S THE COLEMAN'S CROSSING DISTRICT, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT FALLS INTO THAT. AND WE HAD PROVIDED A PROPOSAL TO ELIMINATE MULTI-FAMILY DWELLINGS WITHIN THAT DISTRICT. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THERE THERE ARE SOME AREAS WHERE APARTMENTS COULD BE BUILT WITHIN TIF DISTRICTS, FOR EXAMPLE. THIS IS JUST ONE THING. AND EVEN TODAY THAT THERE EXISTS THE POSSIBILITY OF A CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION FOR A MULTIFAMILY DWELLING UNIT IN A TIF DISTRICT, WHICH WOULD THEN ADD FUEL TO THE FIRE THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD TO EXPERIENCE, WHICH IS KENMORE PLACE AND UNION STATION. HAVING STUDENTS THAT GO INTO OUR SCHOOLS. YET THE REVENUE THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE DIVERTED TOWARDS THE SCHOOLS IF IT HAD BEEN STRAIGHT ZONING OR DISTRICT WITHOUT A TIF, THAT REVENUE IS DIVERTED TO FUND INFRASTRUCTURE DEBT. WE HAD PROPOSED TO ELIMINATE THOSE USES AS IT HAD COME THROUGH. PLANNING COMMISSION HAD MADE THE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THAT, TO BASICALLY MAKE IT A CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL INSTEAD OF NOT CONDITIONAL, NOT PERMITTED. SO SO NOW THAT'S THE VERY CODE THAT SERVES AS THE BASIS FOR THEIR DECISION MAKING. SO, SO THE COMMENT OR THE IDEA OF HAVING IT IN THE CODE, THEREFORE IT MUST BE, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULDN'T REQUIRE THIS HIGHER LEVEL OF, YOU KNOW, SCRUTINY OR HIGHER THRESHOLD TO PASS THAT RELIES. IT'S CONTINGENT UPON THERE BEING A CODE THAT IS MOST FAVORABLE TO DEVELOPMENT. I JUST THINK THERE'S STILL CONTINUED WEAKNESSES HERE. I DON'T THINK BY ANY MEANS, OUR ACTION THAT WAS PROPOSED HERE WAS BY NO MEANS TO STEAMROLL PLANNING COMMISSION. IT WAS TO STRENGTHEN THE PROCESS, TO ENSURE TRANSPARENCY, AND TO TO SERVE THE MARYSVILLE RESIDENTS IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS I'LL ADD TO SCOTT'S COMMENTS AS WELL. I AGREE THAT IT IS TO TRY TO STRENGTHEN THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THE EXAMPLE OF IT WAS WITH BZA BEFORE WITH THE SUPERMAJORITY. IT THAT DECISION WILL NOT BE MADE BY COUNCIL, BUT EVEN IF IT WERE BEFORE COUNCIL, I WOULD SUPPORT A SUPERMAJORITY IF THAT DECISION WERE MADE BY THIS BODY AS WELL. SO FOR ME, IT'S MORE THE SUBSTANCE OF WHAT WE'RE DECIDING THAN WHO IS MAKING IT. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR SIMILAR REASONS, AS COUNCILMAN HUNTER, EVEN THOUGH THESE ARE IN THE CODE, THEY'RE IN THE CODE AS CONDITIONAL USES. IF IT WERE A PERMITTED USE, THEN I YOU KNOW, I JUST FEEL LIKE AS A CONDITIONAL USE, WE OH, WE OWE IT TO THE PEOPLE WE REPRESENT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING A VERY CLOSE LOOK AT THIS AND IN FACT, THIS BODY A SHORT TIME AGO APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE FOR A DATA CENTER. AND SO MOVING FORWARD, DEPENDING ON WHAT CONDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, WHAT CONDITIONAL USES WE HAVE, WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE LOOKING AT THE FULL IMPACTS OF SOME PRETTY SERIOUS DECISIONS THAT WOULD HAVE A GREAT IMPACT ON, ON OUR FUTURE. SO I JUST WANTED TO TO SHARE THAT. ANYBODY ELSE, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS, YOU KNOW, AS A MEMBER 
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OF PLANNING COMMISSION AT ONE TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU IS THERE A LEVEL OF SCRUTINY THAT PLANNING COMMISSION HAS OR DESIGN REVIEW BOARD HAS OR BZA HAS? ABSOLUTELY. BUT THE LEVEL OF SCRUTINY THAT COUNCIL HAS HAS A HIGHER WEIGHT LEVEL TO RESIDENTS, BECAUSE WHETHER WE AGREE OR DISAGREE, THE MAJORITY OF THE PUBLIC, NOT JUST IN MARYSVILLE BUT IN GENERAL, DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW GOVERNMENT TRULY WORKS, AND MAKING SURE THAT COUNCIL IS REPRESENTING THIS COMMUNITY IN THEIR VOICE IS HIGHLY IMPORTANT TO US, WHICH IS WHY THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION WAS BROUGHT TO PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO, YOU KNOW, I WAS DISAPPOINTED THAT IT WAS VOTED DOWN AS WELL. SO YOU HEARD WHAT OUR LAW DIRECTOR SAID. THOSE THERE'S DO YOU WANT TO CREATE AN AMENDMENT TO. I WOULD LIKE TO POTENTIALLY COULD WE CONSIDER THAT AT SECOND READING. THIS IS THE INTRODUCTION. YOU CAN DO IT ANY TIME. OBVIOUSLY IF YOU DO IT FIRST READING THEN IT JUST COMES BACK TO SECOND READING, PUBLIC HEARING AS AMENDED. SO NOTHING ELSE, NO OTHER ACTION HAS TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU DO IT, YOU CAN DO IT. AT SECOND READING, YOU CAN HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ORDINANCE AS IT STANDS, AND THEN AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION TO AMEND COULD BE MADE. THEN YOU COULD HAVE. THEN IT WOULD JUST COME BACK AT THE SAME MEETING FOR PUBLIC HEARING. SO YOU BASICALLY HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS IF THE AMENDMENT PASSED, MR. PRESIDENT, MY MY SUGGESTION AND MY RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL IS THAT THIS IS AN INTRODUCTION. 
          WE THINK ABOUT THIS. WE'VE HEARD PERHAPS MEMBERS CAN, YOU KNOW, VIEW THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THEY ARE ARCHIVED AND YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DIALOG WAS AND GIVE YOU TIME. 
          BUT TO TO CHEW ON THIS A BIT AND THEN WE COME BACK AND WE TALK ABOUT IT. THAT SOUNDS FINE WITH ME. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND 
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READING PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 13TH. AND THEN ONE ORDINANCE H ORDINANCE H FIRST READING INTRODUCTION TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE SECTIONS ONE, ONE ZERO, 7.16. PUBLIC SITES, OPEN SPACES AND NATURAL FEATURES AND 1135.06 COMMON OPEN SPACE. THANK YOU JENNIFER. SO THIS ITEM WILL BE DEALING WITH JUST OUR OUR STANDARD SUBDIVISION AND ALSO OUR PUDS. AND THIS RELATES TO OPEN SPACE WHICH CONVERSATION STARTED A WHILE AGO. WE'VE HAD A PRESENTATION AT WORK SESSION BEFORE. SO WE'RE WE'RE GETTING AROUND TO DOING THIS AS PART OF OUR UPDATES FROM OUR PLANNING AND ZONING WORKING GROUP THAT WE HAVE. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT INCREASING THE PERCENTAGE OF OPEN SPACE REQUIRED FOR ALL DEVELOPMENTS, NO MATTER WHAT THE SIZE. THIS WOULD BE IN THE PUDS, AS WELL AS OUR STANDARD SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS. SO STARTED A COUNCIL WORK SESSION ON AUGUST 19TH. CONTINUED THROUGH OUR PLANNING AND ZONING WORKING GROUP. WE'VE HAD FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT, INCREASING IT TO 20%, AND THEN IT WAS VOTED SIX ZERO AT PLANNING COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBER 2ND. SO AS PART OF THESE AMENDMENTS WITHIN THE STANDARD SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, WE WOULD REMOVE THE SPECIFIC SIZE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENT AND THEN INCREASE THE OPEN SPACE PERCENTAGE. SO THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS. LET ME SEE IF I CAN USE THIS. SO ON THE FIRST PART, THE HIGHLIGHTED OR UNDERLINED TEXT HAS IT REQUIRED AT 30 ACRES OR MORE WITH A MINIMUM OF 10%. WE ARE STRIKING THE THE ACREAGE AND INCREASING IT TO 20%. SO THAT WILL BE OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. AND THEN FOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS, REMOVING RETENTION AND DETENTION BASINS FROM THAT CALCULATION OF OPEN SPACE, REMOVAL OF SPECIFICATION OF OF A SIZE REQUIREMENT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN ALSO INCREASING THE COMMON OPEN SPACE. SO THIS ONE HAS A COUPLE DIFFERENT SECTIONS. SO THAT TOP LINE THERE THAT'S UNDERLINED THAT THAT SECOND PUBLIC UTILITY AND SIMILAR EASEMENTS AND RIGHT OF WAYS, SIMILAR CHANNELS, DETENTION AND RETENTION PONDS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR COMMON OPEN SPACE. SO WE'LL SEE THAT ON THE NEXT SLIDE AMENDED. RIGHT NOW IT CALLS OUT 40 ACRES OR MORE AT 10% FOR RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL OF 5%. SO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE TO 
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STILL EXCLUDE DETENTION AND RETENTION PONDS AS COMMON OPEN SPACE. BUT WE ARE REMOVING THAT SECOND PORTION OF THE SENTENCE, REMOVING THE 40 ACRE REQUIREMENT, AND IT WOULD GO TO 20% FOR THE OPEN SPACE AND 10% FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AND 10% FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL, FROM 5%. AND I BELIEVE THAT IS IT FOR OPEN SPACE. DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. OKAY, ASHLEY, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE OPEN SPACES, WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT REAL QUICK, IT DOESN'T SPECIFY WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE. DOES THAT IS THAT THE POD? IS IT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION? ARE WE AS A CITY TAKING ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THOSE AREAS WHERE THERE IS. SO IT DEPENDS. SO IN THE IF IT'S JUST A STANDARD SUBDIVISION, NOT NOT A PUD, THERE'S AN OPTION WITHIN THE OPEN SPACE SECTION THAT SAYS THEY CAN DEDICATE IT TO THE CITY, BUT WE HAVE TO AGREE TO THAT. OTHERWISE IT'S MAINTAINED BY THEIR HOA. IF IT'S A PUD, IT WOULD BE OUTLINED WITHIN THAT AND WE WOULD HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS ALSO WITH THAT DEVELOPER. IF THERE WAS A PORTION OF THAT LAND THEY WANTED TO DEDICATE, AND IF WE WANTED TO ACCEPT THAT, OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. I THINK THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PARK MASTER PLAN, HAVING OPEN SPACE HIGH PRIORITY, EVEN THOUGH THIS ISN'T PARKLAND BUT OVERALL SEEING A MORE GREENER CITY, I THINK THE MAJORITY OF OUR RESIDENTS WOULD, WOULD LIKE AND TO SUPPORT THE INITIATIVE. SO HEARING NO OTHER COMMENTS, THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 20TH. 
          SORRY. OCTOBER 13TH, 2025. ORDINANCE I, ORDINANCE I FIRST READING INTRODUCTION TO APPROVE 
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A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE, SECTION 1107.19 RESIDENTIAL ARCHITECTURE IN SR, VR, HMD, UT, USF. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS WAS ANOTHER ITEM WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH IN OUR PLANNING AND ZONING WORKING GROUP. WE WANT TO JUST IN GENERAL, INCREASE THE BASELINE STANDARDS FOR ARCHITECTURAL COMPONENTS ON SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THE INITIAL AMENDMENT AT PLANNING COMMISSION WAS DISCUSSING PORCHES AS WELL AS GARAGE LOCATIONS. THE GARAGES HAS BEEN TABLED AND THAT WILL COME BACK. HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE THAT HERE AT THE OCTOBER MEETING. BUT WE DID PROCEED WITH THE PORCH INFORMATION. SO THERE'LL BE THESE ITEMS WILL BE OUTLINED. THE PORCH WOULD HAVE A SIX FOOT DEPTH AND SIX FOOT LENGTH. IT WOULD BE THE FORWARD MOST EDGE OF THE PORCH SHALL BE EXTENDED IN FRONT OF OR FLUSH WITH THE FRONT FACADE OF THE HOUSE, AND THEN THE PORCHES SHALL BE COVERED AND OPEN UNLESS OTHERWISE DISCUSSED WITH THE APPROPRIATE BOARD OR COMMISSION. AND THAT'S IT FOR PORCHES. IF I COULD, MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL SPEAK TO SOME THINGS. SO WE'VE HAD MEETINGS WHAT, THE LAST NINE MONTHS? WE'VE HAD A LOT OF MEETINGS. YES. WORKING. YEAH. WORKING GROUP. AND MUCH OF THE DISCUSSION ON THIS PARTICULAR POINT AND THIS IS ONE OF 35, I DON'T KNOW MANY WAS HOW CAN WE WE HAVE IN OUR VISION STATEMENT TO BUILD WELL-PLANNED NEIGHBORHOODS. AND WELL-PLANNED NEIGHBORHOODS ALSO MEAN ENSURING THAT WE HAVE NEIGHBORS THAT TALK TO EACH OTHER, NEIGHBORS THAT SIT ON THE PORCH, AND THAT THERE'S NOT JUST A GARAGE PUSHED OUT TO THE STREET THAT, YOU KNOW, TAKES IN CARS AND THE NEIGHBORS ARE IN THE BACK OR THEY'RE IN THE THEY'RE IN A SMALL PORCH THAT YOU CAN'T EXACTLY ACCESS FROM THE STREET. SO THIS IS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE ACCOMMODATING PEOPLE WHO CAN SIT ON THEIR FRONT PORCH, INTERACT WITH PEDESTRIANS AND NOT JUST A GARAGE IN THE WAY. AND THAT'S A LOT OF WHAT THE I GUESS, WITH THOSE COMMENTS, THAT KIND OF ENCOMPASSES A LOT OF WHAT THIS DISCUSSION WAS. AND THERE WAS REVIEW OF VARIOUS HOMES AND STYLES AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, FOSTERS THAT TYPE OF NEIGHBORLY COLLABORATION. SO THAT'S WHERE THESE COME FROM. ANYBODY ELSE I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS FOR CLARIFYING MY QUESTION. I WAS GOING TO ASK MR. NEIGHBOR WHO WHO IS THE WE THAT WE SPEAK OF IN THE THE WORKING GROUP. THE WORKING GROUP. SO THAT CONSIST OF COUNCILMAN BERGER AND HUNTER? 
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I'M NOT SO YEAH, A COUPLE BUT IT IS COLLABORATION. OKAY. GOOD. AND WE HAVE SOME STAFF IN THERE AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU ALL DIRECTOR IT'S IMPORTANT. OH DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION. OF COURSE I DO. YEAH. GO AHEAD. IS THE THE FRONT PORCH OPTIONAL OR IS IT MANDATORY. SO THAT WAS A DISCUSSION AT PLANNING COMMISSION I BELIEVE. AND THAT WAS I GUESS IN MY OPINION WHEN WE READ THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN IS IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A PORCH, THIS WOULD BE THE REQUIREMENT. OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED SO MUCH ABOUT IT, ESPECIALLY WITH SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS AND IN PARTICULAR WEAVER DEVELOPMENT, WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE PORCH AND THEN THE SETBACK OF AT LEAST SIX FEET FOR THE GARAGE. YEAH. SO I CAN SEE HOW HOW THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE COME ABOUT. AND WE CLEARLY SEEM TO BE HAVING THE DESIRE TO GO INTO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION WITH THE TYPE OF COMMUNITIES THAT WE WANT TO BUILD. I THINK IT WOULD BE ENCOURAGED TO HAVE ONE WHEN A DEVELOPMENT COMES THROUGH, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S LIKE A PUD. BUT THERE'S ALSO DEPENDS WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE WORKING GROUP, IT DEPENDS ON THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF THE HOUSE. SOMETIMES IT'S IT'S A SMALLER PORCH. SO I THINK THAT'S WHY WE ADDED IN HERE THAT IT COULD, IT COULD BE DETERMINED BASED ON THE ARCHITECTURE TOO. BUT IF YOU DO HAVE ONE, THIS IS HOW WE WOULD WANT TO SEE IT. THIS KIND OF SIX BY SIX. YEAH. YEAH. BUT IT'S WE'RE NOT GOING TO FORCE ANY DEVELOPER THAT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO IT WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM THE DEVELOPER. IF THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO, THEN THESE ARE THE CHOICES THAT THEY HAVE. YEAH OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? THIS WILL BE BACK FOR A SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 13TH, 2025. 
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ORDINANCE J ORDINANCE J FIRST READING INTRODUCTION TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE. APPENDIX. GLOSSARY OF TERMS AS GABER. YES. SO WE ARE ADDING A COUPLE DEFINITIONS JUST BASED ON SOME OF THESE AMENDMENTS FOR OPEN SPACE PONDS AND RECREATIONAL PONDS ARE PART OF THE OPEN SPACE DISCUSSION. AND WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE DEFINITIONS FOR THOSE. SO WE LOOKED AT ADDING UPON DEFINITION AS WELL AS RECREATIONAL POND. SO FOR RECREATIONAL PONDS IT WOULD BE DESIGNED YEAR ROUND. ENJOYMENT ACTIVITIES SUCH AS SWIMMING, FISHING, KAYAKING. SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THAT IN THE DEFINITION. SO IT'S CLEAR WHEN A DEVELOPMENT COMES THROUGH. THANK YOU. DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. CAN I JUST ASK A CLARIFYING POINT MR. PRESIDENT WHAT DOES IT MEAN IF THERE'S LIKE A WATER FEATURE IN THE POND OR THE RECREATIONAL POND. WHAT. WHERE WOULD THAT YOU COULD I MEAN, YOU COULD HAVE A WATER FEATURE WITHIN THERE. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WATER FEATURE WOULDN'T RECLASSIFY THE POND FOR, FOR A NON RECREATIONAL. 
          YEAH. OKAY. WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. WE DON'T HAVE THAT INCLUDED BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HURT IT IF IT LIKE I DON'T THINK IT WOULD RECLASSIFY IT IF IT WAS IN THERE. AS FAR AS A FOUNTAIN OKAY. BECAUSE BECAUSE THEN WOULD THAT WOULD THAT THEN INCLUDE THAT POND OR THAT WATER FEATURE THAT, THAT POND IN THE GREEN SPACE OR THE OPEN SPACE CALCULATION IF IT HAD A WATER FOUNTAIN? YEAH, WE WOULD PROBABLY JUST CONSIDER THAT A POND, JUST AS AN INLAND BODY OF STANDING WATER. AND WE'RE WE ARE MODIFYING SOME OF THOSE CALCULATIONS. SO WE'LL SEE THAT HERE. COMING TO COUNCIL SOON OKAY. THANKS. ANY ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS. SO THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 13TH 2025. 
          [COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL PERSONS AND GENERAL DISCUSSION]
THANK YOU, MISS GABER. THANK YOU. COMMENTS FROM CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. 
          NOTHING FURTHER. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE'LL START DOWN WITH MR. BORDNER THIS TIME AROUND. I JUST REALLY WANT TO SAY I WANT TO THANK ALL MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE FOR ALL THE SUPPORT, YOU KNOW. TONIGHT'S DECISION WITH THE TRAILS THAT WE'VE ARRANGED, THAT WAS A DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS BEEN PUSHED MULTIPLE TIMES FOR VARIOUS REASONS AND BY VARIOUS COUNCILS. BUT TO HAVE A I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST UNANIMOUS VOTE WE'VE HAD ON A, ON A, ON A, 
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ON A, ON ANYTHING REALLY OR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE ALIGNMENT WITH KIND OF OUR VISION, THE COMMUNITY'S VISION AS A COUNCIL. 
          BUT YOU KNOW. THANK YOU. IT WAS A GOOD, GOOD ACTIVITY. MR. WOLF. THANK YOU. MR. BURBANK. I HAVE A COUPLE OF A COUPLE OF ITEMS, I BELIEVE YOU AND TERRY MISSED THE FESTIVAL WHEN YOU WERE GONE. 
          AND THAT WAS THE BEST DANCE FESTIVAL WE'VE EVER HAD, BELIEVE ME. YOU KNOW, I WE GOT TO GIVE SO MUCH CREDIT TO THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED THAT EVENT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE THE MAIN STREET, MARYSVILLE PEOPLE. KAREN, ELLEN, I, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO NAME EVERYBODY. 
          THERE'S JUST SO MANY PEOPLE THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE SUCCESS OF THAT EVENT. AND IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE NOTHING BUT CONTINUE TO GET BETTER, BIGGER AND BETTER AS WE MOVE ON. IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE WEATHER FOR THAT DAY. AND AND THE WEATHER WAS VERY GOOD I UNDERSTAND. SO THE THE PARKING FREE TRANSPORTATION FROM THE FAIRGROUNDS AND EVERYTHING THAT AND IT WAS JUST IT WAS JUST A GOOD VIBE AND IT WAS JUST A WONDERFUL THING. TIM, I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT SINCE YOU ARE OUR LEGAL MIND RECENTLY, THE JOURNAL TRIBUNE IN THE MUNICIPAL COURT NOTICES WHEN IT COMES TO SPEED VIOLATION, THEY'RE ACTUALLY WRITING DOWN THE THE ACTUAL VIOLATION AND THE SPEED THAT GOES WITH IT AND THE FINE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO IF YOU GO AND YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE THAT MOST OF THEM ARE 15 TO 20MPH TOO MUCH. YEAH. AND YOU, YOU PAY YOUR FINE. BUT THERE WAS ONE THAT REALLY STOOD OUT. 
          YEAH. WHERE A PERSON WAS GIVEN A TICKET FOR GOING 120MPH IN A 70 ZONE. OKAY. AND THE FINE WAS $168, $85 COURT COST. IS THAT STANDARD? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE CONTROL OVER? BECAUSE IN A CASE LIKE THAT, I THINK THAT'S SOMEWHAT UNFORGIVING TO BE TICKETED FOR SUCH A VIOLATION. WELL, I GUESS I WOULD START OFF BY SAYING THAT EVERY CASE THAT GOES BEFORE THE COURT IS JUDGED ON ITS OWN MERITS. OKAY, SO READING A BLURB IN A NEWSPAPER DOESN'T REALLY EXPLAIN WHAT THE FACTS OF THE CASE WERE. SO THAT I THINK THAT'S THE FIRST ISSUE. 
          I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THAT IS I AND TO THEN CIRCLE BACK TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, NO, THAT'S NOT STANDARD. USUALLY WHEN YOU SEE 120 IN A 70, THERE MIGHT BE AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE OF RECKLESS DRIVING AS WELL. BUT WITHOUT KNOWING THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES OF THAT PARTICULAR INCIDENT, IT'S HARD TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. OKAY, NOW, ARE THE DECISIONS MADE AT STATE LEVEL OR ARE THEY MADE AT LOCAL LEVEL, OR WHERE DOES IT WHERE DOES IT WELL? DECISIONS CONCERNING WHAT LIKE WHAT SHOULD BE CHARGED, WHAT THE FINE SHOULD BE CORRECT. YES. 
          YEAH. THERE ARE MAXIMUM FINES THAT ARE THAT ARE IN THE. OH OKAY. SO THE RC PRESCRIBES THAT, YOU KNOW, SPEED IS A MINOR MISDEMEANOR WITH A MAXIMUM FINE OF 150MPH. NOW IT ELEVATES IF YOU HAVE PRIORS WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME OKAY OKAY. BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE THAT'S THE, THE MAXIMUM. FINE. NOW WITH I'D HAVE TO I'M NOT IN THERE EVERY DAY LIKE I USED TO BE. OKAY. SO I DON'T REMEMBER IF THE THE FINES ELEVATE OR THE DEGREE OF THE OFFENSE ELEVATES WITH A HIGHER SPEED GOING OVER. LIKE IF FOR INSTANCE, IF IT'S 35 MILES OVER OR 50 MILES OVER IF THAT, IF THAT ELEVATES, YOU KNOW, TONY, DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? YES. ONCE YOU GET ABOVE A CERTAIN THRESHOLD, IT DOES RAMP UP TO IT THE SPEED. RIGHT. SO IT GOES UP TO A FOURTH DEGREE MISDEMEANOR. SO 120 TO 70. NOW AGAIN I NEED TO LOOK IT UP TO GIVE YOU AN EXACT ANSWER. IT'S PROBABLY AN ELEVATED M4 OR A FOURTH DEGREE MISDEMEANOR. BUT I DON'T KNOW. 
          WE DON'T KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THAT CASE. OKAY. SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO GIVE YOU ANY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, EXACT ANSWER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IT'S LIKE I SAID, THAT WAS I WAS I WAS KIND 
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OF FLOORED WHEN I, WHEN, WHEN THEY STARTED TO DO THAT AND THEN WITHOUT KNOWING THE BACKGROUND THAT YOU'RE EXPLAINING. YEAH, IT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF DIGGING TO FIND OUT. 
          YEAH. BECAUSE IT MAY BE, MAY GO TO THE BNP, IT MAY IMPACT YOUR INSURANCE RATE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH I APPRECIATE IT. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR COMMENTS, HE KNOWS THAT I HAVE DISCUSSED THOSE SAME ISSUES WITH YOU BECAUSE SOMETIMES I READ THINGS IN THE PAPER AND I'M LIKE, THAT IS WAY TOO LOW. SO AND I UNDERSTAND THE JOURNAL TRIBUNE. I MEAN, I KNOW YOU GUYS POST FACTS ALL THE TIME, BUT IF YOU POSTED EVERY ITEM, IT WOULD BE LIKE 30 PAGES OF NEWSPAPER. SO WE RESPECT THE FACTS. YOU DO POST IN THE PAPER OKAY. GOTTA KEEP THE MEDIA HAPPY, YOU KNOW, MISS MISTER HUNTER, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY TONIGHT? SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF ITEMS HERE THAT WE HAD HEARD COME FROM PLANNING COMMISSION. JUST A SHOUT OUT TO THE MEMBERS WHO SERVE ON OUR, OUR OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS PLANNING COMMISSION IN PARTICULAR. I SERVED ON PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT I KNOW THEY GOT THEIR WORK CUT OUT FOR THEM. ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY I WAS SAD TO LEARN ABOUT DEB MILLER ON WEST SIXTH STREET. 
          NOT SOMEONE THAT I HAD AN INCREDIBLY CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH, BUT I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET DEB OVER THE YEARS, SHORT NUMBER OF YEARS NOW THAT I'VE BEEN SERVING. AND SHE I THINK THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLE HAD SAID SHE WAS KNOWN AS THE UNOFFICIAL MAYOR OF WEST SIXTH STREET OR OF SIXTH STREET, BUT IN MY MIND, SHE WAS THE OFFICIAL MAYOR OF WEST SIXTH STREET. BUT SHE HAD A CONTAGIOUS PERSONALITY AND JUST THE THE LIMITED NUMBER OF INTERACTIONS THAT I HAD WITH HER, SHE DEFINITELY WAS CONTAGIOUS. AND HER JOY AND HER ABILITY TO LIFT SPIRITS OF THOSE AROUND HER. SO I'M SAD TO HEAR OF HER PASSING. THAT WAS IT. THANK YOU, MR. REMES. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TONIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS KRAMER. I HAVE A FEW THANK YOUS THIS EVENING THAT I JOTTED DOWN THROUGHOUT THE EVENING. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE EMERGENCY SERVICES STAFF. I HAD THE HONOR TO ATTEND THE 911 CEREMONY HERE, AND IT'S JUST REALLY HUMBLING. AND THE WORK THEY DO IS ONE THING THAT TRULY IS, YOU KNOW, SO UNIFYING TO EVERYONE. AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF COMMUNITIES AROUND HERE, AS I UNDERSTAND, THAT STILL HOLD THIS OBSERVANCE. SO I JUST EXPRESS MY MY GRATITUDE EVERY DAY FOR THAT. ANOTHER THANK YOU TO JENNIFER. SO YOU HAVE BEEN THERE AND PICKED UP A LOT OF THINGS. I KNOW, YOU KNOW, DOING SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF YOUR NORMAL ACTIVITIES. SO I APPRECIATE APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING UP WITH US FOR THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS. SO AND APPRECIATION TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE WORKING GROUP, IT'S YOU CAN TELL A LOT OF TIME AND DISCUSSION HAS BEEN PUT INTO THAT. AND YOU KNOW, I LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER DISCUSSION AND MAKING SURE AS WE MAKE DECISIONS, WE UNDERSTAND THE PERSPECTIVE FROM FROM PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL. SO I APPRECIATE THAT WORKING GROUP AND WOULD WELCOME ANY FEEDBACK AS WE WORK THROUGH THESE THINGS. ALSO APPRECIATE AGAIN TO ECHO ZACH, THIS PROCESS THAT OCCURRED, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THIS WEAVER WOODS AND AND THE DEVELOPER MENTIONING, YOU KNOW, NOT RUSHING THROUGH THINGS. WE HAD A LOT GOING THROUGH HERE. ANY CHANGES THAT WERE MADE WERE VERY THOROUGHLY DESCRIBED. AND I THINK HAVING THAT CLARITY AS WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS IS VERY HELPFUL FOR US. AND, YOU KNOW, ANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE WHO ARE HERE. SO APPRECIATE THAT CLARITY AS, AS AS WE WORK THROUGH THOSE CHANGES. AND LAST OF ALL, I AM APPRECIATIVE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HONOR THE THE CHILDHOOD CANCER AWARENESS MONTH. AND JUST A REMINDER THAT AS IMPORTANT AS SOME OF OUR DECISIONS SEEM, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING THROUGH A LOT OF TOUGH TIMES AND JUST BE KIND TO EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE NEVER KNOW WHAT WHAT IS GOING ON IN PEOPLE'S LIFE AND JUST WISH THEM STRENGTH AND ENCOURAGE. 
          THANK YOU, MISS KRAMER. SO SCOTT, KIND OF MR. HUNTER TIPTOED ON IT, AND I'M GOING TO DIVE RIGHT INTO IT. SO TO DEB MILLER READING THE FIRST, FIRST SEGMENT OF HER OBITUARY, KNOWN AS THE UNOFFICIAL MAYOR OF SIXTH STREET, DEBBIE WAS PROUD. LIFELONG RESIDENT OF WEST SIDE 
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OF MARYSVILLE, WHERE HER HOME, HER FLOWERS AND HER FAMILY WERE ALWAYS THE HEART OF EVERYTHING, WITH VIBRANT, LARGER THAN LIFE PERSONALITY. SHE WAS A FORCE OF NATURE, A BLEND OF HUMOR, SASS AND A HEART FULL OF LOVE. IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW HER, CHITA, AS SHE WAS LOVINGLY KNOWN SINCE HER CHILDHOOD, WHILE YOU WERE PROBABLY MISSING OUT, SHE WAS ONE OF. SHE WAS ONE WITH A BIG LAUGH. THE SARCASTIC, THE SARCASTIC, AND THE KIND OF ENERGY THAT COULD LIGHT UP A ROOM. WHETHER YOU WERE A LONG LASTING FRIEND OR A FIRST TIME ACQUAINTANCE. THE REASON WHY I TAKE THIS MOMENT WHEN YOU KNOW, IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU SERVE ON COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, YOU IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S THESE YOUR CONSTITUENTS. THEY BECOME TO ME LIKE FAMILY BECAUSE THE MORE YOU ENGAGE WITH THEM AND THEY MORE THEY OPEN UP TO YOU. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT EVERYBODY, BUT THERE ARE ONES THAT ARE REALLY ENGAGED. AND DEB MILLER, SHE GREW UP ON WEST SIXTH STREET. SHE MOVED INTO THE HOME RIGHT BESIDE HER PARENTS HOUSE WHERE SHE GREW UP. IN TODAY'S WORLD, WHERE PEOPLE FEEL TO BE SUCCESSFUL, YOU HAVE TO MOVE AWAY OR DO SOMETHING BIG OR MAKE A NAME FOR YOURSELF. DEB MILLER CHOSE TO LIVE HER LIFE FOR 70 YEARS IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          SHE LOVED GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THAT SHE RESPECTED, COMING TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS NEVER SPOKEN, BUT SHE WOULD LOOK OUT THAT WINDOW. SOMETIMES SHE WAS. YOU WOULD SEE HER ON HER SCOOTER. I'M SURE WE'VE ALL HAD AN INTERACTION WITH HER AT ONE POINT IN TIME. MAYBE. MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IN THE FAMILIAR SOME SOME MAYBE NOT IN THE NEWER FAMILIAR FACES, BUT THE ONES WHO'S BEEN ON HERE, YOU KNOW, DEB WAS HILARIOUS AND FUNNY AND SHE WILL BE SADLY MISSED. AND THE REALITY IS, IS THAT WEST SIXTH STREET WON'T BE THE SAME WITHOUT HER. AND I DID GO TO HER VIEWING TODAY WHERE I DID WRITE IN THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, I WROTE DONALD BURGER, SECOND MAYOR OF MARYSVILLE, BECAUSE I WANTED HER TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. SO ANYWAY, WE WILL MISS HER AND AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO TRY TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE HER PROUD. SO THE HEARTS 
          [THE POTENTIAL TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER INFORMATION RELATED TO THE  SPECIFIC BUSINESS STRATEGY OF AN APPLICANT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE]
GO OUT TO HER THIS EVENING. WE ARE GOING TO POTENTIAL ADJOURNMENT FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER. AND IN INFORMATION RELATED TO SPECIFIC BUSINESS STRATEGIES OF AN APPLICANT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE, AND TO CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF PROPERTY. IS THERE A MOTION? MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER INFORMATION RELATED TO THE SPECIFIC BUSINESS STRATEGY OF AN APPLICANT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE, AND TO CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF PROPERTY SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. ROLL CALL. MISS KRAMER. YES, MR. BORDNER? YES, MR. WOLF. YES. MR. BURR YES. MR. BURGER? YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REEV
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.