[CALL TO ORDER]
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          MINUTES BEING LATE. BUT TONIGHT IS OCTOBER 27TH, 2025. AND IF I DON'T REMEMBER, BY THE END OF THE MEETING, I WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY HALLOWEEN. WE WILL RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND STAY STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALMIGHTY GOD, WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND ITS CITIZENS. AMEN. AMEN. ROLL CALL ZACH BODNER HERE. STEVEN WOLF HERE. HANK. BARBIE. 
          DONNA BERGER HERE. SCOTT HUNTER HERE. MARK REAMS. JULIE KRAMER HERE. IS THERE ANY CORRECTIONS 
          [APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
OR ADDITIONS NEED TO BE MADE TO THE OCTOBER 6TH, 2025 CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION? MEETING MINUTES. MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE OCTOBER 6TH WORK SESSION. 
          MEETING MINUTES. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. IS THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE OCTOBER 13TH, 2025 CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE OCTOBER 13TH MEETING MINUTES. THANK YOU. SIR. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THANK YOU. 
          [ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]
ADMINISTRATION REPORT, MR. BROOKS. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST A FEW THINGS BEFORE I HAND IT DOWN TO KYLE FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AND ENGINEERING COMMITTEE. TRICK OR TREAT. NIGHT. FRIDAY NIGHT FROM 6 TO 8 HERE IN MARYSVILLE. SO KIDDIES WILL BE OUT AND ABOUT. JUST REMIND FOLKS TO USE EXTRA CAUTION. KIDS ARE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THEIR CANDY AND SOMETIMES THEY DON'T ALWAYS WEAR THE BEST COSTUMES FOR VISIBILITY OR THEM TO BE ABLE TO SEE OUT OF. SO ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO USE A LITTLE CAUTION. WE HAVE THE RESERVOIR CONNECTOR TRAIL RIBBON CUTTING. MONDAY, NOVEMBER 3RD, 5:00 UP ON RAYMOND ROAD. INVITE EVERYONE OUT FOR THAT AND THE CHRISTMAS WALK AND TREE LIGHTING. MAIN STREET, MARYSVILLE, ALONG WITH THE CITY, PRESENTS THE 2025 CHRISTMAS WALK AND TREE LIGHTING ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 22ND FROM 4 TO 8. THEY'LL HAVE MUSICAL PERFORMANCES, DANCE TROUPES, COSTUMES, HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES, SCAVENGER HUNTS AND AND A WHOLE LOT MORE. SAINT NICK WILL BE ARRIVING, SO ANYBODY THAT NEEDS TO PUT IN A GOOD WORD WITH SAINT NICK NOW BE THE TIME TO STOP IN AND SEE HIM. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I'LL HAND IT DOWN TO KYLE FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. THANK YOU, CHIEF BROOKS. STREET CREWS THIS WEEK ARE ASSISTING WITH LEAF COLLECTION, DOING SOME DRAINAGE ADJUSTMENTS OUT AT THE CHESTNUT TRAIL AND COMPOST SCREENING. 
          OUR PARKS CREWS ARE REMOVING SOME HANGING BASKETS IN THE UPTOWN AND CONTINUING TO WINTERIZE OUR IRRIGATION SYSTEMS. AND OUR FALL TREE PLANTINGS HAVE BEGUN. EVENTS. 
          STAFF IS BEGINNING TO COORDINATE FOR THE UPCOMING OR UPCOMING PUMPKIN DASH. THE WATER CREWS WILL CONTINUE TO WORK OUT ON THE STREET WATERLINE PROJECT, HOOKING UP SERVICE LINES. AND THERE WAS ANOTHER WATER MAIN BREAK ON WAGON WHEEL THAT IS FOR RECENT BREAKS. THEY'RE ON WAGON WHEEL ON THE OPERATIONS END. WE NOW HAVE TWO SURFACE WATER CLARIFIERS UP AND RUNNING, AND THE GROUNDWATER IS SHUT DOWN FOR THE WINTER. LAST WEEK, OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT PRODUCED 3.53 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A DAY. THE WASTEWATER CREWS COMPLETED THE SANITARY TAP INSPECTIONS AND FATS, OILS, GREASE PROFILES, AND ALSO COMPLETED MAINTENANCE WORK ON FILTER TWO AND THE REPAIR WORK ON THE BIOSOLIDS CONVEYOR SYSTEM. OUT OF THAT, THOSE WERE ALL THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS UPDATES. MOVING ON TO SOME CONSTRUCTION PROJECT UPDATES, THE WEST FIFTH STREET IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. THE STREET HAS BEEN PAVED AND IS NOW OPEN TO TRAFFIC IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. WE DO EXPECT SOME TRAFFIC DELAYS WITH FLAGGERS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AS OUR CONTRACTOR FINISHES UP PAVING OPERATIONS, STRIPING AND RESTORATION WORK. THE 2025 PAVING PROGRAM PROJECT IS COMPLETE. THE ONLY OUTSTANDING ITEMS INCLUDE PAVEMENT STRIPING AND PUNCH LIST ITEMS. THE LAST UPDATE IS ON THE KAREN JACOBS AND CHERRY STREET, SAN ANTONIO IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, SO CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES ON PHASE ONE. HOWEVER, OUR CONTRACTOR, WEATHER DEPENDENT, IS HOPING TO WRAP UP PHASE ONE BY THE END OF THIS WEEK. THEY WILL THEN MOVE ON TO PHASE TWO, WHICH IS 
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TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED TO BEGIN NEXT MONDAY, NOVEMBER 3RD. DURING PHASE TWO, CHERRY STREET WILL BE CLOSED TO THROUGH TRAFFIC BETWEEN LAKEVIEW DRIVE AND STURDY LANE FOR APPROXIMATELY 4 TO 6 WEEKS. THOSE ARE ALL THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AND ENGINEERING UPDATES. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF BROOKS OR KYLE? GO AHEAD I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS FOR YOU, MR. HALLING. SO THE STRIPING YOU MENTIONED, WEST FIFTH THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE IN THE COMING WEEKS, IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. YEAH. OVERALL PAVEMENT STRIPING THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE SHOULD ALSO ANTICIPATE TO OCCUR IN THE COMING WEEKS. YEAH, I WOULD THINK I WOULD THINK BY THANKSGIVING ALL THE PAVEMENT STRIPING AS PART OF THE PAVING PROGRAM AND THE STRIPING PROGRAM. OKAY, WE'LL GET DONE IN THE NEXT PROBABLY 3 TO 4 WEEKS. AND THEN THIS MAY HAVE BEEN STATED A LITTLE, MAYBE EMBEDDED IN YOUR COMMENTS. THE THE RESTROOM FACILITIES, FOR EXAMPLE IN PARTNERS PARK. WHEN DO THOSE SHUT DOWN FOR THE WINTER IN TERMS OF HAVING WATER I THINK EVENTUALLY THE DOORS LOCKED, DON'T THEY. THEY DO I DON'T I, I WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE THE RESTROOMS BEING WINTERIZED SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE. I KNOW THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT YET, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S BEFORE THANKSGIVING. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE, IS THERE A. THE PUMPKIN DROP THAT WE'VE HAD IS THAT WHAT'S THE PLANS FOR THAT THIS YEAR. YES I CAN ANSWER THAT FOR YOU. SO THIS YEAR WE ARE CHANGING THE SCHEDULE FOR IT. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING IT ON THE ROAD IS OUR THEME FOR IT. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IT AT, I THINK, THREE OF THE THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, MARYSVILLE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. SO EACH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS KIND OF COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER FOR RAISING FUNDS FOR BLESSING AND BACKPACK. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. GO AHEAD. OKAY. OKAY. I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. YEAH, BUT AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE TO BE IN TOWN FOR 33 YEARS. BLOCKED OUT I WAS. YEAH. IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AND WHAT WOULD BE THE POSSIBILITIES TO MAKE A A SOUTH LOOP. IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE? SO WE HAVE 33. AND OF COURSE WE HAVE 53,000 CARS PER DAY. DID YOU DID YOU EVER GIVE THAT SOME THOUGHT? AND IF YOU DID, HOW MUCH WOULD THAT BE. YEAH. YEAH. SO I KNOW IT. IT IS I THINK IN OUR THIRD PLAN FOR LIKE KIND OF A SOUTHERN BYPASS. WE HAVEN'T PUT A TON OF THOUGHT IN IT JUST BECAUSE THE COST WOULD BE I CAN'T EVEN PUT A NUMBER TO IT. 
          I'M SURE IT'S PROBABLY IN THE BILLIONS TO CONSTRUCT A ROAD ALL THE WAY AROUND FROM 33 SOUTH OF MARYSVILLE TO THE WEST SIDE OF MARYSVILLE. IT WOULD BE OUTRAGEOUS. YEAH, IT'S ONE THING TO SAY, WHY DON'T WE DO IT RIGHT, BUT I SAY THE WORD BILLIONS, AND THAT MIGHT BE OVEREXAGGERATING. BUT IT'S A LOT OF MONEY. YEAH. AND I REALLY HAVE TO ADMIRE SEVERAL THINGS. I CAME HERE 52 YEARS AGO AND 33 WAS ALREADY BUILT AT THE TIME. YEAH. AND THEN WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE CROSS, THE CONTINENTAL HIGHWAY THAT EISENHOWER BUILT. YEAH, TODAY IT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE TO BUY THOSE PROPERTIES, WHETHER IT'S EMINENT DOMAIN AND ALL OF THAT. 
          YEAH, I CAN JUST IMAGINE, EVEN IF WE TODAY WERE THINKING ABOUT ALREADY, SOMEWHERE ALONG BEFORE WE MAKE THE TURN. YEAH, WE WOULD NEED TO GO. RIGHT. MAYBE AROUND FOUR. THAT'S AN EXISTING ROUTE. AND THEN MAYBE TAKE SOUTH HEART IF YOU WANT TO, AND THEN KIND OF WORK OUR WAY AROUND. BUT THE EMINENT DOMAINS AND I MEAN IT WOULD TAKE 20 YEARS TO OBTAIN THE LAND. AND AT THAT TIME IT'D BE THREE TIMES AS EXPENSIVE. AND SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD GIVE UP ON, OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT MAYBE AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WHAT WHAT WHAT'S YOUR FEELING? AND I SAID, I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE. NO, YOU'RE FINE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A DECISION BY COUNCIL, IF THAT'S A PRIORITY BY BY CITY COUNCIL TO LOOK FOR A SOUTHERN BYPASS. I THINK THERE'S OTHER PRIORITIES. MAYBE IN MARYSVILLE THIS, YOU KNOW, 
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
          ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MY, MY MY ONLY QUESTION WAS WHEN IT COMES TO STREET STRIPING. AND NOW BECAUSE WE'RE LATER IN THE YEAR I DON'T KNOW YOU KNOW WITH TEMPERATURES. BUT IF I CAN REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE USED TO STRIPE I DON'T KNOW IF STRIPING WAS IN HOUSE, BUT LIKE WHEN I WAS A KID, I REMEMBER THE WAY THEY WOULD STRIPE THE CITY STREETS AND IT WOULD ALWAYS BE IN THE AT DURING THE NIGHT AROUND LIKE MIDNIGHT OR WHATEVER. BUT A DO WE DO STRIPING IN HOUSE OR DO WE CONTRACT THAT OUT? AND THEN IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO STRIPING THIS IN NOVEMBER AT NIGHT, OR IS THE PAVEMENT TOO COLD OR. NO, YOU CAN STRIPE. USUALLY IT'S I THINK ABOVE 40 DEGREES. SO WE'LL GET WARM ENOUGH WEATHER IN NOVEMBER TO STRIPE. WE DO HAVE STRIPING MACHINE IN HOUSE. THEY LIKE TO DO MORE SMALLER PROJECTS LIKE MAYBE A CROSSWALK HERE OR THERE, OR MAYBE SOME STRIPING IN ONE OF OUR PROPERTIES. WE DO. WE CONTRACT THAT OUT. SO WE WE LIKE TO USE THE SAME CONTRACTOR WE DO FOR THE PAVING PROGRAM. SINCE THEY'RE ALREADY IN TOWN, WE CAN SAVE ON MOBILIZATION COSTS AND JUST USE THAT SAME CONTRACTOR. 
          SO DO YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE STRIPING IN THE EVENINGS, OR WOULD THEY BE STRIPING DURING THE DAY LAST YEAR? THEY STRIPE DURING THE DAY OKAY. YEAH OKAY. THANK YOU. HEARING NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY OR MOVE ON WITH THE AGENDA. THANK YOU. REPORT OF CLERK OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. OKAY. HEARING OF CITIZENS. THIS IS WHERE ANY CITIZEN HAS UP TO FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING THAT'S NOT A PART OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA, 
          [PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT]
OKAY? PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT, MISS GABER. GOOD EVENING FOR PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          WE ARE GOING TO SEE ALL OF THOSE AGENDA ITEMS THAT WERE AT THE MONTH OR AT THE MEETING EARLIER THIS MONTH ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. SO IF IT'S OKAY, I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THOSE AS WE GET TO THAT AGENDA ITEM. YES. OKAY. GREAT. I DO HAVE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IF YOU'D LIKE THAT. YEAH. 
          [DESIGN REVIEW BOARD REPORT]
ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAD ONE HOME IMPROVEMENT GRANT WHICH WAS FOR 1129 BAY LAUREL DRIVE THAT WAS APPROVED. FIVE. YES. ZERO. NO. AND THEN FOR NEW BUSINESS ITEMS, THE FIRST APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT DID NOT SHOW UP. SO THAT ITEM WAS TABLED BY THE BOARD UNTIL THE APPLICANT DOES APPEAR, WHICH WAS FOR 602 WEST FOURTH STREET. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA WAS FOR BLESS LLC, WHICH USED TO BE BRADFORD INSURANCE ON FIFTH. FOR SOME WINDOWS, IT WAS ASKED THAT THE APPLICANT EVALUATE SOME OTHER OPTIONS ON THOSE AND THAT WAS TABLED ALSO. FIVE YES ZERO. NO. 
          THE OTHER ITEM ON THE AGENDA, THERE'S CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR SECOND CHANCES AT 112 SOUTH MAIN STREET. THIS ITEM ALSO TABLED WITH A VOTE OF FIVE. YES ZERO. 
          NO. ANOTHER ITEM. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR 214 SOUTH COURT STREET, WHICH IS THE CITY OWNED PROPERTY WHICH USED TO BE THE UFFINGER LAW OFFICE THERE, AND THAT WAS FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE REAR OF THE SITE, TO PATIO SPACE THERE THAT WAS APPROVED FOR. YES. ZERO. NO. 
          THE ONE DRB MEMBER WAS ACTUALLY THE THE CONTRACTOR. SO THEY RECUSED THEMSELVES DURING THAT VOTE. AND THEN THE LAST ITEM THAT WE HAD WAS FOR LANGHOLZ LAW OFFICE AT 404 EAST FIFTH STREET TO DO A REPAIR, REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT OF PORCH FLOORING MATERIAL THAT WAS APPROVED. FIVE. YES. ZERO. NO. AND THE OTHER ITEM, WHICH IS ACTUALLY COMING TOMORROW FOR A 
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SPECIAL DRB MEETING, IS THE WATER AND LIGHT PROJECT. SO THAT ITEM WAS POSTPONED AND WILL BE HEARD TOMORROW HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 630. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OH GO AHEAD. YEAH. GO FOR IT. THERE'S A PATIO FOR OUR PROPERTY AT THE PARCEL RIGHT BEHIND US HERE IN THE CORNER NEXT TO THE USED TO BE UFFINGER LAW OFFICE THAT WE PURCHASED. 
          SO THAT IS IMPROVEMENTS TO THE REAR OF THE SITE FOR EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS. AND THE INTENDED PURPOSE OF THE PATIO. IS THAT PUBLIC USE OR WHAT? I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN DETERMINED YET, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE COUNCIL USE MEETINGS, MAYBE PUBLIC USE. I DON'T KNOW THAT CITY MANAGER EMERY HAS DETERMINED WHAT THAT USE, AS WELL AS COUNCIL AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. BUT WE'D BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THE PLAN WITH YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THAT. YEAH, MAYBE JUST EMAIL ME IF I HAVE QUESTIONS. OKAY. THE B+, LLC STRUCTURE. NOW YOU KNOW, WHEN BRADFORD SOLD IT, THERE WAS AN ORIGINAL DOOR THAT FACED THE WEST. AND WHETHER IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WIDOW'S PEAK OR WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT WHAT IT WAS, IT HAS BEEN REPLACED. THE THE DOOR HAS BEEN REPLACED. SO I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY IF THAT DOOR WAS REPLACED BEFORE OR AFTER THE SELL OF BRADFORD'S INSURANCE, BUT IT JUST HAPPENED RECENTLY. OKAY. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. YEAH. IT DOESN'T FIT THE ORIGINAL DESIGN OF THE ORIGINAL DOOR THAT WAS ON THAT STRUCTURE. OKAY. THAT THAT THE REASON WHY THAT DOOR AND THAT WIDOW'S PEAK IS VALUABLE TO THAT HOME IS BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY PIECE LEFT OF THE PROPERTY THAT WITH THE ORIGINAL DESIGN OF THE ORIGINAL FRONT PORCH THAT USED TO WRAP AROUND THAT WHOLE ENTIRE HOUSE WHEN IT WAS AN ACTUAL RESIDENTIAL HOME BEFORE IT GOT TURNED INTO A BUSINESS AND IT WAS ASPHALTED, THE WHOLE ENTIRE PROPERTY. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT'S THE REALLY THE TRULY OTHER THAN THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS AND THE TRIM AROUND THE WINDOWS AND THAT ORIGINAL PORCH AND THAT UPSTAIRS DOOR IS THE ONLY ORIGINAL FROM THE OUTSIDE VIEW. THE ORIGINAL DESIGN OF THE HOME, WHICH I'M SURE WAS BUILT IN 1902 OR SOMETHING. THAT WAS ALL FOR MY UPDATES. THANK YOU, 
          [Ord. A]
THANK YOU. ORDINANCE A THIRD READING VOTE TO APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION THAT NO AMENDMENT BE MADE TO SECTION 1141.27 ACTION BY PLANNING COMMISSION. YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DEBATE ON THIS ISSUE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO THINK ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, CONDITIONAL USES I THINK, SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WITH A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF A MAJORITY TO APPROVE A CONDITIONAL USE INSTEAD OF WHAT IT IS NOW. YOU KNOW, I, I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS, IS THAT THE CITY IS GROWING AND DOES OUR LAND USE MAP NEEDS TO BE CHANGED AND UPDATED? ABSOLUTELY. BUT WE AS A COUNCIL ARE GETTING THE HEAT OF WHAT IS BEING DEVELOPED. AND I THINK SOMETIMES WHEN IT COMES TO CONDITIONAL USES, I THINK OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE NOT ALWAYS AWARE OF THE JUSTIFICATIONS OF WHY SOMETIMES DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS SHOULD BE BUILT IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF ZONING AREAS, INCLUDING APARTMENT BUILDINGS, GAS STATIONS, AND OTHER THINGS. SO JUST HEIGHTEN THAT LEVEL OF SCRUTINY, I THINK, WOULD DO A WORLD OF GOOD NOT ONLY FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BUT FOR THE BOARD AND THE STAFF, THEN TO EDUCATE STRONGLY ON PLANNING COMMISSION, ON WHY CONDITIONAL USES SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AS A HIGHER LEVEL OF SCRUTINY THAN WHAT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST. AND THEN ALSO IT WOULD ALLOW COUNCIL TO BETTER ALIGN OURSELVES WITH WHAT THE VISIONING IS OF OUR COMMUNITY. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAS ANYTHING ELSE THEY WANT TO ADD TO THAT COMMENT, BUT MISS KRAMER, YEAH, I'LL ADD. AS I STATED IN THE FIRST READING OF THIS, THAT I THINK I SUPPORT A HIGHER BAR REGARDLESS OF WHAT BODY IS MAKING THAT DECISION, WHETHER IT BE. BZA COUNCIL OR PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THAT WOULD BE MY 
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MY OPINION ON THAT. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I'LL JUST SAY FOR MYSELF. SO COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU ACKNOWLEDGED YOU BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. SO WE WERE WE HAD A PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE MEETING SOME MONTHS AGO WHERE THIS WAS BROUGHT FORWARD AS A DISCUSSION ITEM. AT THAT PARTICULAR MEETING, YOU HAD COME FORWARD AS A CITIZEN, AND THAT WAS WHERE WE INITIATED SOME DIALOG REGARDING CONDITIONAL USES AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT PATHWAYS ARE FEASIBLE, WHAT PATHWAYS ARE IN LINE WITH MUNICIPAL NORMS, AND A DISCUSSION POINT, NOT ACTUALLY WHAT THIS BODY OF COUNCIL HAD PUT FORWARD, BUT A DISCUSSION POINT WAS, IS SOMETHING LIKE A CONDITIONAL USE, A DECISION THAT YOU PUT IN THE HANDS OF COUNCIL. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT MUNICIPAL NORMS ACROSS THE STATE, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU SEE. SO AS WE EXPLORED THE TOPIC FURTHER, ONE IDEA WAS TO HAVE A COUNCIL INITIATED AMENDMENT OR CHANGE HERE TO THE ZONING SO INITIATED BY COUNCIL. AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAD PUT FORWARD FOR PLANNING COMMISSION TO CONSIDER. WHEN I WAS ON PLANNING COMMISSION, THE VERY FIRST MEETING, I THINK I HAD ATTENDED THE CHAIR AT THAT TIME, IT WAS JERMAINE FERGUSON HAD BROUGHT FORWARD A A RULE WITHIN PLANNING COMMISSION TO SAY, NO LONGER DOES A CONDITIONAL USE AGREEMENT REQUIRE A SIMPLE MAJORITY OF THE QUORUM, BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE MAJORITY OF THE OVERALL BODY. SO WHAT THAT MEANT AND JUST, YOU KNOW, LAYMAN'S TERMS IS INSTEAD OF HAVING THREE, WE NEED FOUR. AND WHAT THIS DOES IS SAYS OUT OF SEVEN PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS THAT ARE APPOINTED, ASSUMING THEY'RE ALL FILLED, BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE THAT THERE BE A FIVE VOTE ON APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE. I RAN ON ENSURING INTEGRITY IN OUR PROCESS, INTEGRITY AND DEVELOPMENT. I SEE THIS AS AN EMPOWERMENT OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION. I DO THINK IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT IF I'M A PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER VOTING ON THIS, I WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, BUT I SEE THIS AS POWERING EMPOWERING PLANNING COMMISSION. IF THIS WERE TO BE AMENDED. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? SO SO THE THE RECOMMENDATION IS NO AMENDMENT, NO AMENDMENT. SO DO WE HAVE. AN ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL THAT WE WANT TO WE WANT TO CONSIDER OR. I'M SORRY? MR. I MEAN, JUST FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, WE'RE DEALING WITH SECTION 1140 1.27 OF THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES. THIS BODY, COUNCIL, INITIATED A ZONING ZONING AMENDMENT TO BE DISCUSSED IN FRONT OF PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH WOULD HAVE ADDED A SENTENCE TO THAT SECTION, WHICH WHICH STATES, IN ORDER FOR A CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION TO BE APPROVED WITH OR WITHOUT MODIFICATION, A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE OF TWO THIRDS OF ALL PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS IS REQUIRED. SO THAT WAS THE AMENDMENT THAT YOU WISHED OR THAT YOU REQUESTED THROUGH YOUR ZONING INITIATION RESOLUTION FOR PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSED. PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSED IT, AND THEY PASSED A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING THAT. 1141 .27 NOT BE MODIFIED, THAT THAT SENTENCE NOT BE ADDED, THAT IT STAY INTACT. SO IF IF COUNCIL WANTS TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION, THEN I WOULD GUESS THAT THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE OR THE MOTION FOR THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO ADD THAT SENTENCE AS ORIGINALLY RECOMMENDED BY COUNCIL, TO THE TO THE LAST PART OF SECTION 1141 .27. AND IF COUNCIL MAKES THAT AMENDMENT NOW, ONLY FIVE VOTES WOULD BE REQUIRED TO AMEND PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION. IF IT PASSES, THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO BE HEARD. THE LEGISLATION, AS AMENDED, WOULD THEN AGAIN BE HEARD. A SECOND READING TONIGHT, AND THEN THE THIRD READING WOULD OF COURSE, BE ON THE 11TH AT NOVEMBER 10TH UNLESS WAIVED. SO HOPEFULLY THAT CLEARS IT UP. SO THEN YOU ALWAYS DO A REALLY NICE JOB, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THINGS CLEAR. APPRECIATE IT. SO I GUESS SO I WOULD I WOULD I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO AMEND THE LEGISLATION. NOW CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IF I'M SAYING SAYING THIS WRONGLY, BUT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE LEGISLATION. AND FROM 
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TO FIVE INSTEAD OF FOUR. WELL, WHAT I WOULD DO IS I WOULD FRAME IT THIS WAY. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION BY ADDING TWO SECTION 1141 .27 THIS SENTENCE IN ORDER FOR A CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION TO BE APPROVED WITH OR WITHOUT MODIFICATION, A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE OF TWO THIRDS OF ALL PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS IS REQUIRED. SO I WOULD I WOULD FRAME YOUR MOTION TO AMEND. THAT WAY. I WOULD FRAME MY MOTION TO WHAT OUR LAW DIRECTOR HAD JUST STATED. OKAY, SO THEN ROLL CALL MR. HUNTER. YES. MR. REAMES YES. MR. MISS CRAMER. YES. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLFE YES. MR. BURR YES. MR. BURGER YES. SEVEN. YES. AMENDMENT PASSES. THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR I KNOW, BUT THANK YOU FOR GRANTING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO PUBLIC SERVICE, PUBLIC SAFETY. NOW, THIS LEGISLATION IS AT SECOND READING, PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING IS ANY RESIDENTS HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS? AND OF COURSE, THIS IS THE LEGISLATION AS AMENDED. CATHY YOUNG 425 WEST EIGHTH. WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS? YOU'RE JUST DOING WHAT YOU WERE ORIGINALLY GOING TO DO, REGARDLESS OF WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED. SO IT'S IT'S JUST A WASTE OF TIME. IS IS THERE ANY OTHER RESIDENTS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC? SO IS THERE IS THERE? MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE THIRD READING. OKAY. ROLL CALL. SORRY, MR. REAMES. NO, MISS KRAMER. NO. 
          MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLFF. NO. MR. BURBY. NO. MISS BERGER. YES. MR. HUNTER YES. FOUR. NO MOTION FAILS. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. SO THIS WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING AND VOTE ON NOVEMBER 
          [Ord. B]
10TH, 2025. ORDINANCE BE THIRD READING. VOTE TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE SECTIONS ONE, ONE OH, 7.16 PUBLIC SITES, OPEN SPACES AND NATURAL FEATURES, AND 1135.06 COMMON OPEN SPACE ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING FURTHER OKAY. COUNCIL. I'D MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THIS LEGISLATION. OKAY. ROLL CALL. MISS KRAMER. YES. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLFF. 
          YES. MR. BERBEE YES. MR. BERGER. YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REAMES YES. ORDINANCE C, THIRD READING 
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VOTE TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11, ZONING CODE, SECTION 1107 .19 RESIDENTIAL ARCHITECTURE AND SWD VRD, HMD UWT AND USF ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING FURTHER. 
          COUNCIL. IS THERE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. ROLL CALL. MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. WOLFF. YES. MR. BERBEE YES. MR. BURGER YES. 
          MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REAMES YES. MISS. KRAMER. YES. SEVEN. YES. LEGISLATION PASSES ORDINANCE D 
          [Ord. D]
THIRD READING VOTE TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE, APPENDIX. 
          GLOSSARY OF TERMS. ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING FURTHER. COUNCIL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. ROLL CALL. MR. WOLFF. YES. HOLD ON, HOLD ON. MR. COUNCILMAN HAS A SECOND READING. THAT'S. THE ORDINANCE. OH. I'M SORRY. ALRIGHT. WE'RE ON ORDINANCE D, CORRECT? YEAH. 
          ORDINANCE. SORRY. OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT, MR. WOLFF. YES. MR. YES. MR. BERGER. YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MR. REAMES YES. MISS. KRAMER YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. SEVEN. YES. LEGISLATION 
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PASSES ORDINANCE E SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING TO AMEND CHAPTER 1320 VACANT BUILDING REGISTRATION OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. CODIFIED ORDINANCES, ADMINISTRATION, NOTHING FURTHER. 
          CITIZENS. COUNCIL. I'LL JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU TO CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL WHO HAVE 
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BROUGHT THIS UP AND CLEANING UP OUR CODE TO ENSURE THAT BLIGHTED BUILDINGS ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE MORE SO THAN WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST. VACANCIES. THIS WOULD BE BACK FOR THIRD READING AND VOTE ON NOVEMBER 10TH, 2025. ORDINANCE F FIRST READING INTRODUCTION TO 
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APPROVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT TO CREATE THE MARYSVILLE JEROME TOWNSHIP JOINT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, AUTHORIZING THE INCLUSION OF CERTAIN ADDITIONAL PROPERTY WITHIN SAID DISTRICT, KNOWN AS THE KEY EXPANSION AMENDMENT, AND TO REPEAL ORDINANCE 20 2025. ADMINISTRATION. I'LL DEFER TO THE CITY LAW DIRECTOR AND MR. PHILLIPS TO HANDLE THAT TIME. I CAN HANDLE IT. NO PROBLEM. SO THIS YOU MAY RECOGNIZE THIS. 
          YOU MAY RECOGNIZE THIS BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY COME THROUGH AND AND PASSED AND COUNCIL PASSED THE AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT. THE PROBLEM THERE WAS A PROBLEM THAT THE ACTUAL PETITION BY THE DEVELOPER HAD NOT YET BEEN FILED AND SIGNED WITH AND AND CONVEYED TO THE TOWNSHIP CLERK. 
          SO WE HAVE TO KIND OF REDO THIS. SO WHAT WHAT WE'RE WHAT I'VE WE'VE PUT TOGETHER HERE IS AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT, AND IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME AMENDMENT WITH AN ADDED PROVISION TO REPEAL ORDINANCE 2025, WHICH IS WHAT WAS BEFORE COUNCIL ORIGINALLY. 
          SO THAT'S THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT. IT MIGHT BE NICE IF COUNCIL COULD WAIVE THIRD READING. NOW IF JUST FOR EDUCATION PURPOSES, IF THERE WAS VOTE NOS. DOES THAT WHAT WHAT DOES THAT DO. IF IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE I DON'T I DON'T IT WOULD BE DISAPPROVED. I MEAN I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS. YEAH. IN THE OLD ONE WOULD STILL BE IN EFFECT. YEAH. IT SHOULD CREATE MORE BECAUSE IT'S NOT REPEALED. OKAY. SO WE'D HAVE I MEAN, RIGHT, LOGISTICALLY THAT'S AN ISSUE. SO OKAY. BUT WE CAN YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT OFFLINE. YEAH THAT'S FINE I WAS JUST CURIOUS. YEAH. NORMALLY THIS WOULD COME THROUGH PRIOR TO THE STRUCTURE GOING UP. THE STRUCTURE IS PARTIALLY BUILT. SO RIGHT. SO TYPICALLY AND THIS THIS TOOK A WHILE TO GET THIS BEFORE YOU AND THE NEGOTIATIONS BACK AND FORTH. SO WHAT OCCURRED WAS WE CONTINUE WITH OUR LEGISLATION BEFORE A PETITION WAS IN HAND. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PETITION IN HAND BEFORE YOU PASS THE JET AMENDMENT IN WHICH YOU PASS, PRIOR TO GETTING THE PETITION IN HAND, THERE WAS NO NEGOTIATION GOING ON ON CERTAIN ISSUES BETWEEN THE TOWNSHIP AND THE CITY. THERE WAS A DELAY IN THAT, BUT WE PUSHED FORWARD. 
          NEGOTIATIONS WERE COMPLETE. WE DIDN'T HAVE THE PETITION IN HAND. THEREFORE YOU APPROVED. 
          WE WERE TRYING TO BE EFFICIENT AND TO EFFICIENT, AND THAT'S WHAT CREATED THE PROBLEM. BUT WE CAN'T APPROVE THE AMENDMENT UNTIL THE PETITION IS IN HAND. WE HAVE THE PETITION IN HAND. 
          NOW. NOW WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT. SORRY FOR THE LENGTHY EXPLANATION. THANK YOU. 
          IT WAS A REALLY GOOD EXPLANATION. OKAY. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THE PETITION FROM THE. THIS ONE HERE. SORRY ABOUT THAT. IS THE PETITION FROM THE TOWNSHIP OR IS THE PETITION FROM THE AUTOMOTIVE OR THE THE COMPANY THAT'S GOING TO BUILD OUT THERE? YEAH. SO THAT'S A COMPLICATED ANSWER TO THIS. SO THE PROCESS HAS NOT BEEN AS EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT AS IT HAS BEEN. SO WE'RE NOW SCHEDULING REGULAR MONTHLY MEETINGS TO MAKE CERTAIN EVERYONE KNOWS WHO'S ON FIRST AND WHO'S ON SECOND. NO BASEBALL REFERENCE OR ANY CERTAIN PURPOSE. BUT BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO WE HAVE A MEETING, OUR FIRST COORDINATION MEETING THIS THURSDAY. AND WE THINK THAT'S GOING TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS. BUT TO ANSWER DIRECTLY YOUR QUESTION, WHAT HAPPENS IS WE RECEIVE THE INTEREST FROM A FROM A PROPERTY OWNER. WE THEN NOTIFY THE TOWNSHIP COUNCIL. THE TOWNSHIP COUNCIL THEN DRAFTS THE PETITION AND THE AMENDMENTS. IT'S APPROVED BY OUR COUNCIL, WHICH IS BRICKER AND ECKLER BRICKER GARDEN. I'M SORRY. AND THEN IT COMES BEFORE YOU FOR APPROVAL. SO WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS. SO THESE TYPES OF THINGS DO NOT SLIP THROUGH THE CRACKS. FURTHERMORE, TO MAKE CERTAIN WE CAPTURE CONSTRUCTION INCOME TAX WHICH IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THIS PROCESS. WE WANT TO BE EFFICIENT. CONSTRUCTION INCOME TAX IS VERY IMPORTANT. WE WANT TO CAPTURE IT. SO WE NEED TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON. THE PETITIONER, THE PETITIONERS NOT THE TOWNSHIP. CORRECT. THE LANDOWNER SLASH DEVELOPER 
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BUSINESS OKAY. SO THEY THE TOWNSHIP FACILITATES THE PROCESS. BUT THE PETITION ACTUALLY COMES FROM THE BUSINESS OWNER, THE LANDOWNER. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEY'RE THEY'RE ASKED TO SIGN THE PETITION WHEN THEY REQUEST WATER OR SEWER SERVICE. OKAY. AND IS THAT THE REASON THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR WAIVING THE THIRD READING SO WE CAN COLLECT THE CONSTRUCTION INCOME TAX? THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO EXPEDITE THIS AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. YOU'RE YOU'RE TRYING TO GO OUT TO THE CONSTRUCTION INCOME AS WELL AS LATER ON WHEN THE BUILDING IS IN PLACE, CORRECT? YEAH. OKAY. CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THIRD READING? OKAY. ROLL CALL. 
          MR. BURBY. YES, MR. BURGER? YES. MR. HUNTER? YES. MR. REAMES. YES. MISS KRAMER. YES. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLFF. YES. SEVEN. YES. MOTION PASSES. OKAY. ORDINANCE G. I'M SORRY, THIS 
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WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 10TH. ORDINANCE G FIRST READING INTRODUCTION TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE SECTION 1123.29 OPEN SPACE REGULATIONS. 
          ALL RIGHT. LET ME PLUG IN HERE REAL QUICK. DO YOU NEED A WATER BEFORE YOU GET STARTED? I JUST. DON'T WORRY. IT'S LIKE THREE PAGES. HOPEFULLY YOU'RE FEELING A LOT BETTER. I AM BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. AND JUST FOR KIND OF REFERENCE, SO TONIGHT WE HAVE JEFF GREEN WITH CLARION HERE WITH US WHO IS OUR CONSULTANT. 
          AS WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF THESE ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS THAT CAME OUT OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND WORKING GROUP. SO I WILL GO THROUGH THE FIRST TWO TONIGHT, AND THEN I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO JEFF TO GO THROUGH THE REMAINING ITEMS. BUT WE HAD THE PLANNING AND ZONING WORKING GROUP, WHICH STARTED IN NOVEMBER LAST YEAR. SO WE'VE BEEN ABOUT A YEAR WITH OUR GROUP SO FAR, INCLUDING THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR FIRST READING TONIGHT. THERE'S BEEN ABOUT 23 AMENDMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING WORKING GROUP, WHICH CONSISTED OF THREE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS, COUNCILMAN BERGER AND COUNCILMAN HUNTER, AS WELL AS OUR CITY STAFF, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH A LOT OF DISCUSSION ITEMS, TRYING TO GAIN CONSENSUS, CONSENSUS AND DETERMINE WHAT IS THE BEST DIRECTION TO HEAD FOR MARYSVILLE. SO TONIGHT WE HAVE ABOUT 13 ITEMS OR SO THAT WE WANT TO PRESENT TO YOU OUT OF OUR PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. SO THE FIRST ONE THAT WE HAVE. IS SECTION 11 2329 WHICH RELATES TO OPEN SPACE. AND THIS CONVERSATION ACTUALLY STARTED AT WORK SESSION LAST YEAR BACK IN AUGUST, WHERE WE KNEW WE WANTED TO INCREASE THAT OPEN, OPEN SPACE PERCENTAGE. SO WE STARTED TO CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THAT WITH THE WORKING GROUP, LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY INCREASING IT. AND THEN WE CAME TO PLANNING COMMISSION HERE WITH APPROVAL IN OCTOBER. SO I'LL ROLL THROUGH NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES. WE WILL TRY TO BE SINCE YOU GUYS HAVE THE PACKET, WE'LL TRY TO BE KIND OF QUICK ON THESE. I KNOW WE GOT A LOT OF A LOT OF ITEMS TO GO THROUGH, AND WE ARE ALWAYS OPEN FOR CONVERSATION AND DISCUSSION ALSO BEFORE SECOND OR THIRD READING. SO THE FIRST ITEM, THE THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF LIKE A DESCRIPTION OR DEFINITION. WE JUST WANTED TO INCLUDE THE THE TERM INCLUDING RECREATIONAL PONDS AS PART OF THE OPEN SPACE DESIGNATION FOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES. SO THAT ONE'S THAT ONE'S KIND OF SHORT. THE NEXT ITEM IS CALCULATING OPEN SPACES. SO WE WANTED TO SHALL NOT ACCOUNT FOR MORE THAN 30% OF THE REQUIRED OPEN SPACE. SO RETENTION PONDS WE REMOVED THE DETENTION POND REQUIREMENT. BUT RETENTION PONDS SHALL NOT CALCULATE FOR MORE THAN 30% OF THAT OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT. IF ALL OF THE FOLLOWING LIST HERE ARE ACCOUNTED FOR. SO THE WALKING PATH, SEATING AREAS, WILDLIFE HABITAT, FOUNTAINS AND ENHANCED LANDSCAPE AREA. AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO ADDED POND DESIGN AS PART OF THIS. SO THERE'S FOUR DIFFERENT ITEMS RELATED TO POND DESIGN. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE 
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THAT THEY HAVE VARIOUS CONTOURING KIND OF A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A NATURAL LANDFORM WITH THIS. WITH THIS DESIGN CRITERIA ALSO ADDING IN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TREES PER LINEAR FOOT AS WELL. AND THEN IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY HAD ASKED ABOUT EXPANDING A LITTLE BIT ON THE HABITAT, THE WILDLIFE HABITAT. SO WE CAME UP WITH AN ADDITIONAL SENTENCE WE'D LIKE TO ADD. THIS WILL REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT BY CITY COUNCIL TO INCLUDE THIS IN PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION. SO IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT TONIGHT, WE CAN. OR IF YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL SECOND OR THIRD READING, WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT AS WELL. SO WE WOULD JUST ADD AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE AN ANIMAL OR PLANT LIVES, PROVIDING THE SPECIFIC MIX OF RESOURCES AND NEEDS TO SURVIVE AND REPRODUCE. I WOULD THINK I WOULD THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY AMEND IT TONIGHT SO THAT IF THERE'S DISCUSSION ABOUT IT FOR SECOND READING, AT LEAST IT'S NOT COMING IN THAT NIGHT OR THE THIRD READING. THAT'S JUST MY INPUT TO PUT THAT IN TONIGHT. SO I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO, I'LL MAKE THE AMENDMENT AND I'LL MAKE THE AMENDMENT AND ENVIRONMENT WHERE AN ANIMAL OR PLANT LIVES, PROVIDING A SPECIFIC MIX OF RESOURCES IT NEEDS TO SURVIVE AND REPRODUCE. YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION. THIS IS JUST RELATIVE TO OPEN SPACE. I'M SORRY. YEAH. SO THIS IS FOR THE POND CALCULATION AS PART OF OPEN SPACE. SO IN ORDER TO CALCULATE THE RETENTION POND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A WALKING PATH, SEATING AREAS, WILDLIFE HABITAT FOUNTAINS OR AND ENHANCED LANDSCAPE AREAS. AND WHERE WE ARE CHOOSING TO DEFINE WHAT. YEAH THEY WERE JUST SAYING, HEY WHAT CAN CAN THERE BE SOME GUIDANCE THERE. WE SAID, YEAH, LET'S WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. MAYBE WE'LL ADD A DEFINITION OR SO WE DECIDED THAT I THINK WE CAN JUST ADD A ADD THAT SENTENCE RIGHT AFTER HERE. SO IT'LL SAY WILDLIFE HABITAT AND THEN IT'LL BE THE, THE SENTENCE RIGHT AFTER THAT. AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT SORRY, I WAS JUST I'D IMAGINE IS THAT SOMETHING SIMILAR TO LIKE I THINK IT'S ON SCOTT'S LAWN. THERE'S LIKE A POLLINATOR HABITAT OFF THE ROAD, KIND OF IN A PARK OR IF THAT'S AROUND THE POND, THAT KIND OF THING. HAVING FISH WITHIN THE POND COULD COUNT. YEAH. WE THOUGHT IT MADE SENSE TO TO ADD THAT DESCRIPTION INTO. YEAH. I JUST IF I MAY. SO I WATCHED THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. I MAY HAVE BEEN IN PERSON FOR THE BEGINNING OF IT, AND THIS WAS JUST A QUESTION TO ADD CLARITY. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, THIS WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? COULD WE COULD WE ADD CLARITY TO THAT? AND AS YOU ARE TONIGHT, YOU'RE SAYING, YES, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD. AND AND IT'S BEING BROUGHT FORWARD. SO IT'S IT'S MORE SO WE'RE ADDRESSING A QUESTION THAT CAME UP IN PLANNING COMMISSION. SO PRESIDENT BURGER, YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT OR YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT, YOU NEED TO MAKE A MOTION. SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ADD AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE AN ANIMAL OR PLANT LIVES, PROVIDING A SPECIFIC MIX OF RESOURCES IT NEEDS TO SURVIVE AND PRODUCE. AND THEN SO ROLL CALL MR. BURGER. YES. MR. HUNTER? YES. 
          MR. REAMES. YES. MISS KRAMER. YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. WOLFF. YES. MR. BURPEE YES. 
          SEVEN. YES. AMENDMENT PASSES. THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. YEAH, THAT WAS A GOOD, GOOD ITEM BY PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL. SO AND THAT IS ALL I HAD FOR THE PONDS. 
          OKAY. UNLESS WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, I JUST HAVE A GENERAL COMMENT THAT I THOUGHT OF AND I DON'T WANT TO LOSE IT. SO IF I CAN SAY IT NOW, WE RECENTLY EXECUTED OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. AND JUST PERSONALLY FOR ME AND I THINK WHAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE RESIDENT WOULD BE TO POTENTIALLY LOOK AT THESE AMENDMENTS AND LINK THEM BACK TO OUR PLAN, OUR GOALS, OUR OBJECTIVES, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S CLEAR AND THAT'S MAYBE WHAT I'M WHY I MISSED THE THE LINKAGE FROM THE HABITAT, BECAUSE I WAS REFLECTING ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND HOW WE COULD INCORPORATE THESE CHANGES WITH OUR PLAN AS A COUNCIL. I THINK THAT AS WE GO INTO MAYBE THE SECOND READING WORK, TO HAVE THAT LINKAGE TO OUR PLAN, SO IT'S CLEAR, OKAY, THIS IS WHY WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING, BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL HAS A PLAN, WE HAVE A VISION, AND THIS IS US EXECUTING OUR PLAN TO EXECUTING TO THAT TO SAID PLAN AND VISION. THAT MAKES SENSE. 
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WE CAN PULL THAT TOGETHER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO TWO MR. GARDNER'S. TOPIC. WE I ACTUALLY WORKED WITH MCKINSEY AND WE ACTUALLY WAS KIND ENOUGH TO MAKE A LITTLE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION ON USING OUR CITY OF MARYSVILLE STRATEGIC PLAN. SHE PUT UP A LITTLE POWERPOINT WITH PICTURES. THAT REPRESENTS WHY WE ARE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING, BECAUSE ANYTIME YOU ENHANCE COMMUNITY APPEARANCE, SCRUTINY ALWAYS COMES TO THE TOP OF THE TABLE. SO TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE MOVING IN A DIRECTION OF WHAT OUR RESIDENTS WANT US TO MOVE INTO, THAT WE HAVE PICTURES AND JUST BLURBS. BUT AT SECOND READING, IF CITY STAFF WANTED TO ADD TO THAT, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU GUYS WANTED TO DO THAT ON YOUR OWN, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SPEAK UPON THESE ITEMS, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. YEAH. SO YEAH, TO HIS POINT, IT IS SOMETHING THAT I HAD MCKINSEY WORK ON THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER FOR US. JUST IN GENERAL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SUCH A GOOD TURNOUT FOR THE HANDFUL OF MAYBE FOUR OF THE FIVE VISION MEETINGS THAT WE THAT WE HELD. WE'VE GOTTEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK, WHETHER THAT'S IN PERSON OR THROUGH DIFFERENT SURVEYS THAT HAVE BEEN EXECUTED. 
          SO IT'S CLEAR THAT THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING AS A COUNCIL IS ALIGNED WITH THE BROADER COMMUNITY'S DESIRES. AND I THINK IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE LINK WHAT WE'RE DOING TO THE PLANS AND OBJECTIVES THAT ARE REALLY WELL RECEIVED FROM THE BROADER COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. 
          ABSOLUTELY. AGREED. MR. PRESIDENT. AND MR. BORDEN, I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT SO YOU HAD MENTIONED IN YOUR FIRST COMMENT STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT I THINK YOU MAY HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE VISION PLAN. AND I THINK THAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN ENCOMPASSES A VERY BROAD SET OF OBJECTIVES, LIKE WE NEED TO FUND OUR FIRE AND POLICE, SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO IT'S VERY BROAD, AND I THINK THERE IS A PORTION OF STRATEGIC PLAN WHERE THIS DOES SOME OF THESE LINKED TO, BUT I THINK PROBABLY VISION PLAN OR EVEN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I THINK I MENTIONED BOTH, BUT YES, IT'S BOTH. IT'S YOU CAN LINK IT TO YOUR STRATEGIC TO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. YOU CAN LINK IT TO OUR VISION PLAN. YEP. EITHER WAY WORKS. EITHER WAY FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS LIKE ATTRACTING YOUNG FAMILIES. YEAH I THINK THE THE GREATER OPEN SPACE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT. YES. YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY ONE THAT COULD RELATE TO THAT. SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. SO THIS ORDINANCE F AND YOU'RE COMPLETED NOW WITH ORDINANCE CORRECT. YES. SO THIS WILL BE BACK IF THERE'S NO OTHER OR I'M SORRY WHAT WERE WE ON G G MY APOLOGIES. IS THERE ANY OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS? OKAY, SO THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING AND PUBLIC 
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HEARING ON NOVEMBER 10TH. ORDINANCE H FIRST READING INTRODUCTION TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE, SECTION 1107 .18 AND SECTION 1107 .19 RESIDENTIAL ARCHITECTURE AND PSD, VRD, ARD, HMD, UT, USF. YEAH, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A NEW SECTION THAT WE ARE CREATING. AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A HANDFUL OF OTHER ITEMS THAT RELATE TO THE 1107 19 THAT JEFF WILL BE PRESENTING THIS EVENING AS WELL. AGAIN, THIS WAS A WORKING GROUP ITEM, JUST KIND OF STARTING TO INCREASE THE BASELINE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS FOR OUR STREET ZONING, WHICH THEN TYPICALLY KIND OF ROLL OVER INTO THOSE PUDS. THIS WAS APPROVED AT PLANNING COMMISSION ON OCTOBER 7TH. SO THE FIRST ITEM OF 1107 19 IS JUST A PURPOSE STATEMENT. SO THAT FIRST PARAGRAPH THERE JUST APPLYING THESE STANDARDS THAT ENHANCE ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY AND EXTERIOR AND APPEARANCE OF DEVELOPMENTS BY PROMOTING AND PRESERVING THE ESTHETIC, CHARACTER AND ECONOMIC VITALITY OF THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S ONE ITEM THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE AMENDMENT. AND THEN THE NEXT PORTION STARTS TO GET INTO GARAGES, AND WE'RE STARTING TO EVALUATE THOSE GARAGES TO ENSURE RESIDENTIAL GARAGES ARE INTEGRATED AND WELL DESIGNED EXTENSIONS OF THE HOME. AND IT'S NOT INTENDED FOR THE GARAGE TO BE THE MOST DOMINANT FEATURE OF THAT HOUSE. ALSO ENCOURAGING A MIX OF FRONT LOAD, SIDE LOAD AND REAR LOAD PRODUCTS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE HEARD DURING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS. REALLY WANTING TO SEE THAT REAR LOADED AS WELL. WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE GARAGE LOCATION AND HAVING THAT GARAGE A 
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MINIMUM OF TWO FEET BEHIND THE FRONT EDGE OF THE PORCH FOR FRONT LOADING GARAGES, AS WELL AS SIDE LOADING GARAGES. IF NO PORCH EXISTS, THE GARAGE SHALL NOT BE THE MOST FORWARD PART OF THE HOUSE, SO IT STILL SHOULD BE SETBACKS. IF THERE IS NO PORCH. AND THEN FOR GARAGE BAYS, THE DISCUSSION WAS TO LIMIT IT TO NO MORE THAN THREE BAYS THAT SHALL BE FACING THE STREET. SO IF YOU ARE ON THE SIDE, FOR INSTANCE, THIS MIDDLE PHOTO WHERE THIS GARAGE IS NOT FACING THE STREET, YOU COULD HAVE FOUR BAYS. THIS GARAGE HERE COULD ONLY HAVE THREE BAYS, AND THAT INCLUDES ATTACHED OR DETACHED GARAGES. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE REAR LOADED, SO IF IT'S A REAR LOADED, YOU COULD HAVE A FOUR BAY GARAGE. AND NO MATTER WHAT DIRECTION, OR 5 OR 6 WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE THERE. GARAGE DOORS IS ANOTHER ITEM THAT WAS DISCUSSED. SO TWO DESIGN FEATURES ON THOSE GARAGE DOORS WHICH COULD BE RAISED PANELING, PERMANENT HARDWARE PAINT COLOR OTHER THAN WHITE WINDOWS, OR OTHER SIGNIFICANT ARCHITECTURAL COMPONENTS THAT DESIGN REVIEW BOARD OR PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD APPROVE. AND THAT'S IT FOR THE GARAGES. DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD. MR. HAMMER, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE. SLIDE? SLIDE. YEAH. 
          AS I WAS LOOKING AT THE FIGURES, FIRST OF ALL, I LOVE WHEN YOU INCLUDE THE FIGURES BECAUSE IT HELPS ME VISUALIZE WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. BUT WITH THE SIDE LOADED, TYPICALLY IT SEEMS LIKE YOU WOULD NEED A LITTLE MORE SPACE TO TURN IN, AND THAT THE FIGURE SHOWS STRAIGHT DRIVEWAYS. 
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
          WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WAS ALSO JUST TO SHOW AN EXAMPLE. IF SOMEONE WANTED TO GO TO THE EXTREME OF THEIR GARAGE, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE PERMITTED. BUT YES, WE'D BE HAPPY TO START TO PULL SOME EXAMPLES TOGETHER. WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME JUST FROM THE WORKING GROUP AS WELL, SO WE CAN SHARE THOSE. DOES THIS HANDCUFF US IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM LIKE IN THE FUTURE? SO NOT THAT I HAVE SEVEN CARS, NOR DO I WANT THEM, BUT THERE ARE COLLECTORS AND THERE ARE COLLECTORS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT, YOU KNOW, DOES THIS HANDCUFF THEM FROM THEIR OPTIONS OF LIVING IN TOWN? LIKE ARE THERE EXCEPTIONS OR VARIANCES? THAT WOULD BE I MEAN, IF THERE'S A CONSIDERED THEY COULD GET A VARIANCE FOR THAT. 
          OKAY. I'VE GOT EIGHT CARS. WOULD YOU RATHER BE IN MY DRIVEWAY AND ON THE STREET, OR WOULD YOU RATHER ME HAVE AN EIGHT CAR GARAGE. WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO. THERE'S THERE'S ALWAYS BCA, SO I'M JUST ASKING JUST BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE EIGHT CARS, I'VE GOT TWO. SO LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, YEARS AGO, MY NEIGHBOR, TWO DOORS DOWN FROM ME, USED TO HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF LITTLE SHEDS. AND WHEN I SAY LITTLE SHEDS, THERE WAS PROBABLY LIKE 35 OF THEM. AND EACH ONE HAD A DIFFERENT SOMETHING IN IT. AND SO HE WANTED TO THE CITY WAS 
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QUESTIONING HIM. I WAS PROBABLY LIKE 12 OR 13 AT THE TIME, AND THE CITY WAS QUESTIONING ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE OF THEIR SHEDS AND, WELL, HE WANTED TO BUILD A GARAGE THEN, AND IT WAS NOT AT THAT TIME IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, HE WASN'T ABLE TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT LARGE. BUT THROUGH BZA HE WAS ABLE TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT COVERED, YOU KNOW, AND HE WAS ABLE TO REMOVE ALL THOSE SHEDS, BUT IT BACKS UP TO THE ALLEY. AND SO NOW HE'S ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING. 
          SO THERE'S ALWAYS TO YOUR POINT, THERE'S ALWAYS A BCA. AND ALSO TO YOUR POINT THERE ARE HOMES. 
          AND WHAT'S THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OFF OF 38. YOU KNOW WALKER MEADOWS, WALKER MEADOWS. THERE ARE HOMES IN WALKER MEADOWS THAT HAS LIKE A THREE CAR, FOUR CAR BAY. AND THEN THERE ARE SOME HOUSES THAT HAVE A ALL BRICK BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE A LOT STRONGER THAN WHAT THE CITY ZONING CODE IS. SO IF YOU PUT ONE IN, IT HAS TO BE BUILD COMPLEMENT TO THE HOME. BUT THERE ARE HOMES THAT HAVE LIKE A TWO CAR GARAGE PLUS THEIR BAYS. IT'S LIKE A THREE BAY GARAGE. SO TO YOUR POINT, I THINK THAT LET'S SAY IF A RESIDENT WHO HAS EIGHT CARS, THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T BUY A HOUSE IN MILL VALLEY OR SOMETHING. BUT I THINK THAT IF YOU IF YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS BIGGER LOTS OR BECAUSE NORMALLY IF YOU HAVE IF YOU'RE SOMEBODY THAT HAS THOSE TYPES OF CARS, YOU'RE BUILDING A HOME THAT'S PROBABLY A LOT MORE ELEVATED THAN THE STANDARD INDIVIDUAL. SO IN THAT, IN THAT REGARD, I THINK THERE ARE NEIGHBORHOODS FOR THAT TYPE OF STYLE. AND NOT JUST THAT. 
          THERE'S ALSO BCA WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO TO. SO THAT HELPS HELPS BREAK DOWN THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU, THAT HELPS. YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S CLEAR. THAT'S CLEAR. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT AND I THINK ONE OF THE HANDCUFFING OURSELVES IS LIKE THE MIDDLE ONE IS, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPTION ON THE SIDE HERE OF THE, OF THE HOUSE OR THE SIDE OVER HERE, AS WELL AS IN ADDITION TO IT, WHERE IT'S FACING THE STREET TOO. SO THEY COULD GET OVER THAT THREE IF NEEDED, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THAT HOUSE HAS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. WALKER MEADOWS IS THAT MIDDLE ONE, MR. PRESIDENT. YEAH, YEAH. GO AHEAD. QUESTION. SO IN IN TERMS OF THESE DISTRICTS THAT ARE NOTED HERE, WE'RE ON ORDINANCE H, CORRECT? H YES, YES. SO THE DISTRICTS THAT ARE NOTED HERE. SRT VRD I DON'T SEE ANY I DON'T SEE EVEN A FOR GARAGE. YEAH. 
          MIGHT NOT BUILD EVEN BEING FEASIBLE IN ALL OF THESE DISTRICTS. THE ONLY ONE I WOULD EVEN SAY THAT COULD BE FEASIBLE WOULD BE ARD WOULD ARD AND YOU MIGHT GET SOME IN SRT LIKE THE WALKER MEADOWS FOR THE. I'M NOT AWARE OF A FOUR BAY ONE IN WALKER MEADOWS, BUT YOU'VE SEEN A FOUR BAY IN WALKER. YEAH, I'VE NEVER SEEN A FOUR BAY IN WALKER MEADOWS, BUT I WAS I WAS KIND OF THINKING ARD BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY TO PRESIDENT BERGER'S POINT, MILL VALLEY IS A LITTLE BIT DENSE. YOU CAN'T YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE THE, THE LOT SIZE TO GET A HUGE. SITUATION. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, AS THE COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO GROW, ARE WE, YOU KNOW, HINDERING THOSE TYPES OF CONCEPTS, I GUESS IN FUTURE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS. MY POINT IS, IS THAT I WOULD SAY, WITH THE EXCEPTION POTENTIALLY OF ARD, I DON'T EVEN SEE HOW THIS COULD AT ALL APPLY. LIKE I DON'T SEE HOW THIS COULD HINDER US, BUT THAT'S JUST MY POINT. WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT ARD IN THIS WHEN IT HAD GONE THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION? I DON'T RECALL, BUT I WASN'T IN ATTENDANCE THE WHOLE TIME. LET ME LOOK HERE. I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ABOUT ARD, BUT IF WE THINK THAT, YOU KNOW THAT THERE MIGHT BE ISSUES WITH THAT IN ARD, THAT'S DEFINITELY ONE THAT WE COULD WE COULD MODIFY THAT SPECIFIC DISTRICT. OKAY, I'LL GIVE IT SOME MORE THOUGHT AND REVIEW BETWEEN NOW AND THE SECOND READING. SO I DON'T SEE I DON'T THINK WE HAD ANY NOTES ON THAT FOR ARD. WE DID NOT. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS? I HAVE ONE. OH GO AHEAD, MR. AMES. THERE ARE SOME GARAGES THAT ARE DOUBLE DEEP. SO IF YOU HAD. YEAH, TWO GARAGE DOORS FACING THE STREET AND THEY WERE DOUBLE DEEP, IS THAT TWO BAYS OR FOUR BAYS? IT WOULD BE I THINK FROM VISUALLY FROM THE ROAD. IT WOULD JUST BE WE WOULD ONLY COUNT THE ONES YOU COULD VISUALLY SEE IF IT'S TWO DEEP IN GOING INTO TO THE HOUSE, WE WOULDN'T COUNT THAT. 
          IT WOULD JUST BE WHAT THAT GARAGE GARAGE DOOR WIDTH IS. ANYBODY ELSE OKAY JUST TO BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 10TH? ORDINANCE I FIRST READING 
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INTRODUCTION TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE 1105 .09 RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION LOT VARIABILITY. ALL RIGHT. SO JEFF IS HERE WITH CLARION. AND HE IS GOING TO PRESENT THESE OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. I'M JUST GOING TO STEP BACK TO THIS PODIUM HERE. BUT AGAIN THESE ARE CONTINUATION FROM THAT PLANNING AND ZONING WORKING GROUP. AND THESE ALL WENT THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION EARLIER THIS MONTH FOR APPROVAL. 
          SO WE WILL SHARE ALL THESE WITH YOU. ALL RIGHT. GREAT PRESIDENT MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS JEFF GREEN. I'M A PRINCIPAL WITH CLARION ASSOCIATES. WE ARE A MID-SIZE PLANNING CONSULTING FIRM. WE HAVE OFFICES IN CHAPEL HILL, NORTH CAROLINA AND DENVER, COLORADO. WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR 33 YEARS. ONE OF OUR MAIN PRACTICE AREAS IS WORKING WITH COMMUNITIES ON UPDATES TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. OVER CLARION 33 YEARS, WE'VE HELPED MORE THAN 250 COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY. WELL, NOT 250 COMMUNITIES. SOME WE'VE WORKED WITH MORE THAN ONCE BUT HELP MORE THAN 250 COMPREHENSIVE UPDATES TO THE DEVELOPMENT CODES. AND WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK WITH COMMUNITIES ON TARGETED UPDATES SUCH AS THIS ONE. WE HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE IN OHIO CURRENTLY WORKING ON A PROJECT IN DUBLIN. 
          SO EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO HELP YOU ALL OUT WITH UPDATES TO YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE. SO WE WERE JUST BROUGHT ON TO THIS PROJECT BACK IN SEPTEMBER. WE ACTUALLY, ALONG WITH THE SEPTEMBER 9TH AND 18TH PLANNING AND ZONING WORKING GROUP MEETINGS, WE ALSO ATTENDED THE SEPTEMBER 2ND MEETING RIGHT AFTER WE GOT UNDER CONTRACT. SO WE REALLY JUST LISTENED. SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS HAS BEEN A DISCUSSION THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE. IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BACKGROUND OF SOME OF THIS, I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER. I MAY SORT OF TURN TO ASHLEY TO SEE IF SHE HAS ANY ANYTHING TO ADD. WHEN WE JOINED, WE LEARNED ABOUT THE PRIORITIES OF THE THE WORKING GROUP. WE DID SOME RESEARCH. WE BUILT ON SOME OF THE RESEARCH THAT CITY STAFF HAD DONE, AND WE CAME UP WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON WHAT OTHER OHIO COMMUNITIES DO, WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY DO, AND OUR, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE OF BEST PRACTICES, AND CAME UP WITH THE SET OF 11 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU SEE HERE. SO WE WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON OCTOBER 7TH. THEY WERE GENERALLY APPROVED. THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WITH A FEW MODIFICATIONS BASED ON THAT DISCUSSION, WHICH ARE INCORPORATED IN THE AGENDA ITEMS YOU SEE TODAY. SO THESE ARE THE 11 DIFFERENT AGENDA ITEMS, AND I WILL WAIT FOR THE CLERK TO READ OFF EACH ONE. AS WE AS WE MOVE THROUGH. I WILL SAY THIS IS A VERY ABBREVIATED PRESENTATION. WE, UNLIKE ASHLEY'S PRESENTATION BEFORE, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE TEXT ON HERE, BUT I DO HAVE COPIES OF THE AGENDA PACKET AS WELL AS RED LINE OF THE PROVISIONS. SO AT ANY POINT, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK OR DISCUSS SOME OF THE LANGUAGE, I CAN SWITCH AWAY FROM THE PRESENTATION TO THAT. SO I IS RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION LOT VARIABILITY. SO AGAIN THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PROVISIONS WHERE WE ARE BUILDING ON THOSE AMENDMENTS TO 11 07.9 THAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT. ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE NOT SHOWING ALL THE TAXES, WE ARE MAKING A LOT OF REVISIONS TO A LOT OF THE SAME PROVISIONS IN THE CODE. SO WE THINK IT'S JUST EASIER THIS WAY TO NOT HAVE THE TEXT UP HERE. THERE'D BE A LOT OF DUPLICATION. BUT AGAIN, HAPPY TO SHOW YOU ANYTHING. SO ONE OF THE YOU KNOW, THE REAL GOAL HERE WAS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL VARIABILITY IN HOW. HOUSES ARE DEVELOPED IN NEW RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS. YOUR CODE ALREADY REQUIRES SOME VARIABILITY FOR LOT SIZE. THIS IS SIMILAR EXCEPT IT REQUIRES SOME VARIABILITY FOR THE LOADING DIRECTION OF GARAGES AND LOTS. SO UNDER THE PROVISION, AT LEAST 20% OF THE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS IN THESE LARGER SUBDIVISIONS, 20 ACRES OR GREATER NEED TO BE SIDE OR REAR LOADING. AND THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE CORNER LOTS. CORNER LOTS, YOU KNOW, CAN BE PRETTY EASY TO GET SIDE LOADING. BUT IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE TYPE OF 
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VARIABILITY THAT THE CITY WANTS, WE'VE SET IT TO 20% OF GARAGES ON SINGLE FAMILY. LOTS ARE REQUIRED TO BE REAR OR SIDE LOADING. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ITEM? NONE AT THIS TIME. OKAY. 
          20 THE REASON WHY WE PICK 20 IS BECAUSE WE JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD STARTING POINT FOR EVERYBODY. WE DIDN'T WANT TO OVERWHELM, BUT THE REALITY IS, IS THAT AS WE PROMOTE WALKABILITY, WALKABLE COMMUNITIES, WE WANT TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF CARS PARKED ON STREETS AND CURB CUTS. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU CAN DRIVE DOWN PROFESSIONAL PARKWAY AND YOU GET A DIFFERENT FEEL COMPARED IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH GREEN PASTURES. AND SO HOW DO WE AND CREATE A COMMUNITY THAT'S DIVERSE AND WALKABLE AND CREATING, YOU KNOW, SO 20% WAS WHAT WE JUST DEEMED WAS A STARTING POINT. YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT GETS IMPROVED ON BY EITHER THIS COUNCIL OR APPROVED ON, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, UP FOR DISCUSSION. BUT WE THOUGHT 20% WAS A GOOD STARTING POINT. DO YOU FEEL THAT WAY AT THE END OF THE DAY? IT'S WHAT, EIGHT HOUSES TO TWO HOUSES AN ACRE, MAYBE THREE. I MEAN, WE WE DEFINITELY I DEFINITELY FEEL IT COULD BE INCREASED. I THINK IT I THINK THE. I, I THINK THE IMPORTANT THE IMPORTANT THING IS AS I STATED EARLIER, IS LINKING THESE ZONING CHANGES TO OUR STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK, WHETHER THAT'S PLAN OR STRATEGIC PLAN OR VISION. YEAH. SO LIKE GO AHEAD, MR. PRESIDENT, IF I MAY. I'M NOT GOING TO CITE THE SPECIFIC REASON WHY WE'RE THERE, BECAUSE THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, THESE MEETINGS THAT HAD OCCURRED OVER THE PAST YEAR. I MEAN, I GUESS YOU THINK TEN PEOPLE OVER A COURSE OF 12 MONTHS, IT'S HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF PEOPLE BEING THERE AND TALKING ABOUT THESE ITEMS. AND THERE WERE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATIONS, OPINIONS, LIKE ANY AND ANY, EVERY OPINION KIND OF HAD COME FORWARD TO CONSIDER. I WOULD SAY WE'RE MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE ORIGIN OF THIS IS, IS ENSURING THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT THAT CONSIDERS LIKE FOSTERS ITSELF, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENTS IS AND NOT ACCOMMODATING AS STRONGLY VEHICULAR TYPE TRAFFIC ACCOMMODATING MORE SO PEDESTRIAN TYPE TRAFFIC AND AND SOME OF THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED LIKE CURB CUTS SO ON AND SO FORTH. THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, NATURAL RESULTS OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS HEAVILY ACCOMMODATING TO VEHICULAR TYPE TRAFFIC, VEHICULAR TYPE, YOU KNOW, MOBILITY, THE COMMON DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU SEE TODAY IS THE FRONT LOAD GARAGE. YOU PULL INTO IT. SO HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALLEYWAYS AND THEY'RE IN COMPLETE CONTRAST. AND THEN YOU HAVE A MIX AND RIGHT HERE AND WHAT WE SAW IN MARYSVILLE NORTH TO IS ACTUALLY A MIXED DEVELOPMENT WHERE CERTAIN SECTIONS, MORE OR LESS HAD INCORPORATED, YOU KNOW, SOME DIFFERING STYLES OF DEVELOPMENT IN THAT LARGE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT LARGE AREA THAT WAS DEVELOPED. SO, AND TO YOUR POINT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WHETHER IT WAS GOING TO BE SHOWN TONIGHT OR MAYBE WAIT FOR FOR NOVEMBER 10TH, THE POWERPOINT, YOU KNOW, AFTER I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT, DEBATING IT, BUT LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, WHAT THE PICTURES WE PUT TOGETHER FROM THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENTS THAT LOOK LIKE YOUR STANDARD DEVELOPMENTS, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS KIND OF STUFF. YOU KNOW, YOU GET THE GARAGE FACING THE STREETS WHERE RESIDENTS OVERWHELMINGLY DISAPPROVE, AND THEN WHERE YOU GET MORE OF THAT HISTORICAL HOUSING STOCK THAT IS IN, YOU KNOW, OLD MARYSVILLE OR JUST WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS. YOU GET AN OVERWHELMINGLY HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF VOTES. AND WE ALL KNOW THERE'S SPECULATION IN EVERYTHING, RIGHT? BECAUSE WHAT PEOPLE LIKE AND WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO SEE IS SOMETIMES DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT AS A SOCIETY, WE'RE MOVING MORE AND MORE INTO A COMMUNITY, INTO A SOCIETY OF MORE WALKABLE, SMART GROWTH. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO EDUCATE YOURSELF ON SMART GROWTH, SMART GROWTH REALLY IS WALKABLE, TREE LINED BEAUTIFICATION, HISTORICAL HOUSING STOCK, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT IS NOT AN OVERSIZE WALMART, BUT MORE OF A CORNER GROCERY STORE THAT WE USED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, 60, 100 YEARS AGO. SMART GROWTH IS NOT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, 
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SMART GROWTH IS NOT. WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A WALL OR WE'RE GOING TO DO THINGS. SMART GROWTH IS WALKABLE. WELL, ATTRACTIVE, DETAILED COMMUNITIES. THAT IS WHAT SMART GROWTH IS. AND, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK COUNCILMAN WOLFER ALWAYS SENDING ME VIDEOS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS MY PLANNING HEART GOES OUT TO HIM. BUT THAT IS WHAT SMART GROWTH IS. AND SO SOMETIMES I THINK THERE'S A DISCONNECT. BUT SO JUST SO GETTING THAT THAT'S WHY. BUT TO YOUR POINT, WE WILL CONTINUE TO SHOW THAT AT THE AT SECOND READING. IS ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. FLOOR IS BACK TO YOURS. ALL RIGHT. AND I JUST WANTED TO CORRECT ONE THING. THIS ACTUALLY REVISES SECTION 1105 .09. SO SO THEN HEARING NO MORE. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY ON THIS AGENDA? OKAY. HEARING NO MORE THIS BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 10TH, 
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2025 ORDINANCE J FIRST READING INTRODUCTION TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE, SECTION 1107 .14 LOTS. SECTION 1121 .07 THE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. 
          SECTION 1121 .10 VILLAGE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. SECTION 1121 .12 HOSPITAL. MIXED USE DISTRICT. SECTION 1121 .20 UPTOWN. SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IN SECTION 1121 .21 UPTOWN TRANSITIONAL DISTRICT. GREAT. SO THIS APPLIES TO DEVELOPMENT IN IN THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          SR, D, VRD, HMD, UT AND USF. SO WHAT THIS REQUIRES IS THAT ON LOTS 60FT WIDE OR LESS. SO IF THEY'RE 60, 59 REQUIRES THAT THEY BE REAR LOADED. SO YOU'LL NOTE THERE'S A THERE'S A CHANGE IN SECTION 11 07. 14 AND THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS THAT ESTABLISHES THE STANDARD. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PACKET YOU'LL SEE LOTS OF OTHER CHANGES. THAT'S BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL CROSS-REFERENCED IN THOSE BUILDING TYPOLOGIES FOR THESE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. SO IT'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, TEXT IN YOUR PACKET. BUT THE CHANGE IS ACTUALLY QUITE SIMPLE. IT JUST REQUIRES THAT IF YOU HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSE ON A LOT THAT IS 60FT WIDE OR LESS, THAT IT NEEDS TO BE RELOADED. AND I THINK JUST TO TO POSSIBLY PREEMPT A QUESTION SIMILAR TO THE ONE YOU HAD EARLIER, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S, YOU KNOW, OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS OF TOWN WHERE THERE MIGHT BE LOTS LESS THAN 60FT WIDE. AND SO AN APPLICANT WHO, YOU KNOW, DOES NOT CAN'T PRACTICALLY ACCESS IT FROM THE THE REAR WOULD NEED TO WOULD BE ABLE TO GET A VARIANCE FROM THE BZA. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE? YOU MUST HAVE KNOWN WHAT MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE, BECAUSE HE LOOKED RIGHT AT ME AND SAID, I'M GOING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BEFORE YOU ASK IT. HE'S A PRETTY INTELLIGENT INDIVIDUAL, SO. SO HEARING NONE FROM COUNCIL, THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 10TH. 
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ORDINANCE OKAY. FIRST READING INTRODUCTION TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE, SECTION 1107 .19 RESIDENTIAL ARCHITECTURE AND STD. VD, ARD, HMD, UT, USF SECTION 1125 .04 LANDSCAPE PLAN REQUIREMENTS. SECTION 1125 .06 MINIMUM LANDSCAPE STANDARDS AND SECTION 1125 .08 INSTALLATION AND MAINTENANCE. SO THIS APPLIES IN THE SAME SET OF DISTRICTS AS THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT ALONG WITH ARD. SO THAT'S THE ONE DIFFERENCE HERE. 
          THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO 1107 19. SO OVERALL TONIGHT YOU'RE GOING TO BE HEARING ABOUT FOUR DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS TO THIS NEW SECTION OF THE SUBDIVISION CODE. SO THIS CAME OUT OF THE DESIRE AMONG MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING WORKING GROUP FOR SOME BASIC STANDARDS AROUND LANDSCAPING FOR SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO SERVE A COUPLE OF PURPOSES. FIRST, TO IMPROVE THE VISUAL AND ESTHETIC QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT BY REQUIRING A CERTAIN MINIMUM LEVEL OF BASIC LEVEL OF LANDSCAPING, AND SECONDLY, TO HELP CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY'S TREE CANOPY BY REQUIRING SOME AMOUNT OF TREE PLANTING. SO I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH. THE PROPOSAL HERE TODAY. SO THERE'S A NEW FOUNDATION LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT. SO ALONG STREET FRONTAGES AS WELL AS EXTENDING ALONG FRONTAGES TO THE THAT EXTEND BACK FROM THE STREET FRONTAGE TEN FEET. THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR FOUNDATION LANDSCAPING INVOLVING SHRUBS, LANDSCAPING LIKE THAT. ONE THING THAT WAS RAISED DURING 
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THE WORKING GROUP MEETING WAS THE CONCERN THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU REQUIRE FOUNDATION LANDSCAPING, IF YOU REQUIRE HOMEOWNERS TO MAINTAIN THAT OVER TIME, THAT CAN BE CHALLENGING. FIRST, FOR THE HOMEOWNERS WHO ARE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN WHAT CAN BE A DECENT AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING IN PERPETUITY. IT'S ALSO DIFFICULT FOR CITY STAFF AND TRYING TO ENFORCE THIS RULE, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE PROPERTIES FOR WHICH THIS THESE REGULATIONS DON'T APPLY, AND THERE WILL BE PROPERTIES FOR WHICH THESE REGULATIONS WOULD APPLY. AND SO IT WOULD REQUIRE STAFF TO MAKE A LOT OF EFFORT TO IDENTIFY, FIRST OF ALL, WHICH PROPERTIES IT APPLIES TO. AND THEN SECONDLY, THIS IS A WHOLE NOTHER ROUND OF ENFORCEMENT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO UNDERTAKE. SO ONE OF THE REGULATIONS THAT YOU SEE IN THERE STATES THAT THESE PROVISIONS APPLY UP UNTIL THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLING GETS A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, AND THEN AFTER THAT IT'S NO LONGER ENFORCED. YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY A HOMEOWNER PURCHASES A NEW HOUSE. IT HAS NICE FOUNDATION, LANDSCAPING. IT LOOKS GOOD. SO THEY'RE INCENTIVIZED TO KEEP IT UP. BUT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A CODE REQUIREMENT TO DO SO. SECONDLY, TO SORT OF CONTRIBUTE TO THE LANDSCAPING AND TO THE TREE CANOPY OF THE CITY, THERE'S A NEW BASIC TREE REQUIREMENT AND IT'S BASED ON LOT WIDTH. SO IN THE PROPOSAL, IF YOU HAVE A LOT THAT'S 60FT WIDE OR IF IT'S LESS THAN 60FT, I'M SORRY, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE ONE TREE. IF YOU HAVE A LOT BETWEEN 60 AND 100FT IN WIDTH, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO TREES. AND EVERY LOT GREATER THAN 100FT IN WIDTH IS REQUIRED TO HAVE THREE TREES. COUNCIL. YEAH, OKAY. SO JEFF I BELIEVE IT'S JEFF. YEAH. SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US THAT WE HAVE CERTAIN RULES. WE WILL HAVE CERTAIN RULES IN PLACE AS TO WHERE THE TREES NEED TO BE PLANTED AND THE FOUNDATION COVERAGE AND EVERYTHING. YEAH. AND THAT IS FOR THE FIRST PROPERTY OWNER, BASICALLY. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES. THE FOUNDATION LANDSCAPING IS FOR THE FIRST PROPERTY OWNER. YES. SO WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS THAT CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS WE CAN DRIVE THROUGH THERE AND WE COULD SAY OWNER OCCUPIED LOOKS NICE, RENTAL LOOKS LOUSY, RENTAL LOOKS LOUSY, OWNER OCCUPIED. LOOKS GOOD. YEAH. SO HOW ARE YOU? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT? YEAH, BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DO NOT ALLOW RENTALS. YEAH. AND I'M NOT SAYING THEY ARE IMMACULATE, BUT THEY THEY LOOK WAY, WAY BETTER THAN OTHER AREAS WHERE IT'S A DISGRACE NOT ONLY FOR THE LANDSCAPE. YEAH. AND I KNOW THAT'S A TOPIC WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT ALSO THE PAINT AND THE WAY THAT THE WHOLE STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE AND THE WHOLE PRESENTATION. YEAH. AND A 25 YEAR OLD COMMUNITY. YEAH. 
          THAT LOOKS LIKE PRE WORLD WAR TWO. YEAH. OF HOW BAD IT LOOKS. SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT. YEAH. SO AS AS DRAFTED IN THE CODE YOU KNOW THE THE FOUNDATION LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS WOULD APPLY TO NEW CONSTRUCTION. AND AGAIN THEY WOULD NOT THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT AFTER THAT CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS ISSUED. AND THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK COUNCIL CAN DISCUSS. IF YOU WANT TO EXTEND THE REQUIREMENT TO MAINTAIN THE FOUNDATION LANDSCAPING. YOU KNOW, AFTER IT'S TURNED OVER TO THE HOMEOWNER. OKAY. WELL AS I SAID, WE WE WE KNOW WHAT WE SEE TODAY. YEAH. AND WITH WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING, THIS WILL ONLY INTENSIFY IT MORE IN THE FUTURE. SO I'M I'M I'M NOT I'M NOT TOTALLY SOLD ON THIS, THIS PARTICULAR ONE WHEREBY YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE FIRST OWNER HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY AND THEY AND THEY ALWAYS DO. YEAH. AND THEN TWO, THREE YEARS LATER AND HEAVEN FORBID IT BECOMES A RENTAL PROPERTY. YEAH. IT LOOKS AWFUL. YEAH. AND THIS, THIS WILL ONLY INCREASE IT MUCH MORE. 
          AND I PERSONALLY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. YEAH. BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I'VE SEEN THE AREAS THAT CANNOT BE RENTED OUT. AND THEY LOOK SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE AREAS WHERE IT IS ALLOWED TO BE RENTED OUT. HANK, JUST TO ADD TO JEFF'S DESCRIPTION, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AND SOME OF THOSE THOSE CONCERNS. AND THERE WAS, I THINK, CONVERSATION ABOUT 
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SHOULD IT BE ON ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE HOUSE, SHOULD IT ONLY BE ON THE FRONT, SHOULD BE ON THE FRONT, THE SIDE. SO I THINK THIS IS KIND OF THE CONCLUSION WE CAME TO, OR THE CONSENSUS TO DO THE FRONT AND KIND OF WRAP, WRAP IT DOWN THE SIDE. THEN WITHOUT DOING THAT ENTIRE FOUNDATION, BECAUSE YOU DO GET INTO THOSE ISSUES. SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO MAINTAIN THE FOUNDATION PLANTING, WHETHER IT'S OWNER OR RENTAL OCCUPIED. SOME PEOPLE JUST AREN'T INTO INTO MAINTAINING PLANTS. AND SO IT'S VERY. SOMETHING WE WANTED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSS. AT THE END OF THE DAY, ALL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO, ALL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO. AND I'M TRYING TO SAY THIS NICELY, BUT IF YOU HAVE A SLUMLORD THAT DOESN'T CARE ABOUT PROPERTY. 
          YEAH. AND JUST WANTS TO GET THE RENT AND A CERTAIN AREA WILL CONSIDERABLY DECREASE IN PRICE. 
          YEAH. WELL, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE AND PROPERTY OWNERS, EITHER SOONER OR LATER WANT TO MOVE OUT OR CONTINUE TO, AND OFTEN THEY HAVE NO CHOICE TO MOVE OUT. SO IF WITH WITHOUT ANY KIND OF INSPECTION OR WITHOUT ANY KIND OF ZONING, I'M AFRAID THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO ENHANCE CERTAIN PARTS OF, OF OUR CITY. SO THE, THE ONE THING THAT FROM A CODE ENFORCEMENT AND PROPERTY MAINTENANCE THING WE CAN DO IS IF THEY HAVE THOSE OVERGROWN PLANTS, THAT WE CAN ISSUE THAT LETTER TO THEM. BUT WITH THIS CODE, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TELL THEM. SO SAY, SAY THEY'RE FOUNDATION PLANTING ALL DIED OR THEY TOOK IT OUT FIVE YEARS AFTER THEY MOVED IN. WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TELL THEM THEY HAVE TO PUT THAT BACK IN, BUT IF IT WAS THERE AND IT WAS JUST NOT MAINTAINED, WEEDS EVERYWHERE, THAT'S WHERE WE COULD ISSUE THAT PROPERTY MAINTENANCE VIOLATION. THE LANDSCAPING IS A LITTLE TRICKY, THOUGH, YOU KNOW, IF OH, I'LL LET YOU SPEAK FIRST. I GUESS I JUST WONDER OUT LOUD TO WE'RE KIND OF THE, THE I I'VE GOT. I SHARE SIMILAR CONCERNS AS YOU, MR. BURBY, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THERE, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS APPLYING TO. FUTURE NEW DEVELOPMENTS, I THINK WHAT MR. BURBY IS REFERENCING IS MORE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, MAYBE EVEN LIKE OLDER PART OF TOWN, POTENTIALLY A LOT OF THE NEWER NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE DEED RESTRICTIONS AND IT'S DEFINED WITHIN YOUR HOA. WHAT WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE AND UNACCEPTABLE. SO SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE I SHARE THE SAME SENTIMENT AS AS YOU, MR. BURBY, AND THE RISKS, I DO THINK FOR THE MAJORITY AND WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE, AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT DOESN'T HAVE A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TIED TO IT TO DATE, BUT IT'S KIND OF DEFINED WITHIN THE DEED RESTRICTION ON HOW YOU NEED TO MAINTAIN YOUR PROPERTY. BUT BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, YOU KNOW, AS IT RELATES TO MAYBE EXISTING HOMES AND SOME OF THE SOME OF THE AREAS THAT YOU SEE AROUND TOWN. BUT BUT I DO DO THINK THAT THIS BEING MORE GEARED TOWARDS NEW DEVELOPMENT AND FUTURE FUTURE GROWTH, I THINK THAT THAT'S KIND OF COUPLED OR GOVERNED BY THE BY THE HOA. HOA, I THINK I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT I THINK IF, IF, IF I MAY QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, WE DID DISCUSS THIS IN DEPTH LIKE SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MULTIPLE SEGMENTS OF THIS TO TO THIS DISCUSSION. ONE IS DEED RESTRICTION HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, THE OTHER THE OTHER. THE OTHER PART OF IT IS YOU HAVE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AND WE HAVE OUR ARBORIST AND BASED ON DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AND ARBORIST RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU WOULD HOPE THAT MATERIAL IS BEING PLANTED THAT IS NOT GW WIE OR SHRUB THAT WE KNOW IS NOT GOING TO DIRECTLY BE PLANTED AND THEN DIE BASED ON CLIMATE RELATED, YOU KNOW, ISSUES LIKE NOT IN OUR ZONE AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO I THINK IT PUTS MORE PRESSURE ON DESIGN REVIEW BOARD TO ENSURE THAT WHAT IS BEING PUT IN IS, YOU KNOW, A SHRUB THAT'S NOT GOING TO GROW TEN FEET TALL, LIKE, OBVIOUSLY, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, SOMETIMES WHEN YOU GO TO HOME DEPOT AND YOU BUY A SHRUB WITCH AND THEY THINK, OH, IT'S CUTE LITTLE 
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SHRUB. AND THEN THEY LOOK AT THE TAG AND IT GROWS TEN FEET BY TEN FEET, COMPARED TO MAYBE GOING TO A NURSERY WHERE YOU MIGHT FIND THIS DIFFERENT SPECIES OF THAT SHRUB THAT MIGHT GROW THREE FEET BY THREE FEET. SO IT'S JUST EASIER TO MAINTAIN IN THE LONG RUN. AND THEN ALSO THE OTHER THE, THE, THE OTHER THING IS IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE BUILDING A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS ATTRACTIVE FEATURES ON IT, YOU WOULD ONLY HOPE THAT A, YOU HAVE A CLIENTELE BUYING THAT PROPERTY, THAT AND BUYING INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WANTS TO ENHANCE AND PRESERVE, BUT IT ALSO BECOMES TOO EXPENSIVE FOR A SLUMLORD TO BUY. AND I THINK THAT'S THE PART WE'RE MISSING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, NOW, NOW, SLUMLORD IS NOT JUST SOMEBODY THAT'S LOCAL. SLUMLORD IS ALSO WASHINGTON BUYING UP ALL OF OUR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, WHICH IS INCREASING THE PRICE OF OUR PROPERTY VALUES, WHICH NO ONE TALKS ABOUT. BECAUSE BECAUSE SADLY, WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE IT'S EVERYTHING IS BLACK AND WHITE. BUT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH PROPERTY VALUES IS WASHINGTON DEREGULATING AND ALLOWING BIG CORPORATE AMERICA TO BUY UP ALL OF OUR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS. SO YOU WOULD HOPE THAT BY DOING THESE IMPROVEMENTS, YOU'RE PRESERVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE AVERAGE RESIDENT AND NOT THE PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT TO MAKE MONEY SCAMMING OFF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AND THEN LASTLY, WHEN YOU ARE CREATING THESE AND WITH THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY AND ALL THOSE THINGS, I DON'T DISAGREE ABOUT MAINTENANCE. I WOULD ONLY ENCOURAGE THAT FUTURE COUNCILS, YOU KNOW, WE ALL WE KNOW BY STRATEGIC PLANNING, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE IS AN ISSUE. WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT IT FOREVER SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL AND PREVIOUSLY. AND YOU CAN DRIVE DOWN A LOT OF OUR STREETS AND YOU CAN TELL, RIGHT? EVEN IN THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT, YOU CAN TELL BECAUSE THE HOUSES AREN'T EVEN MAINTAINED IN AN HISTORICAL INTEGRITY WAY. SO YOU WOULD HOPE THAT BASED ON WHAT THIS COUNCIL IS DOING AND THE VISION THAT WE HAVE AND CREATING JOBS AND, YOU KNOW, ELEVATING THAT WE WILL HAVE THE REVENUE NECESSARY WITHOUT GOING TO THE TAXPAYER TO ENSURE WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO HIRE CITY STAFF TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS MORE BEING DONE. SO I KNOW FROM MAYBE FROM YOUR EYE TO THE TIP OF THE NOSE, IT SOMETIMES WILL SEEM LIKE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THESE THINGS. BUT I THINK HOPEFULLY IF WE CONTINUE TO MOVE AS A COMMUNITY LIKE WE'RE DOING, THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY SOLVE THE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND ONLY IMPROVE, YOU KNOW, THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR FOR ITS RESIDENTS. SO THAT'S JUST MY, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S IT'S MULTIFACETED AND I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK SOME OF THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE PATIENCE AND TIME, AND HOPEFULLY IT WORKS OUT FOR THE GOOD OF ALL OF US. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED THAT ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES IS TO MEET OUR TREE CANOPY GOAL. AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE NUMBERS LIKE, LET'S SAY A 55 FOOT LOT, WE'VE GOT ONE TREE OR A 90 FOOT LOT, WE'VE GOT TWO TREES. BUT THE TREE CANOPY GOAL IS 40%. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND LIKE HOW THESE WILL MEET THAT TREE CANOPY GOAL BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE NOT QUITE THERE. SO I THINK THE YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS A GOAL FOR 40% TREE CANOPY. AND I THINK IN ORDER TO GET THERE IT REQUIRES, YOU KNOW, TREES NOT, YOU KNOW, ON SINGLE FAMILY LOTS IN COMMON AREAS IN PUBLIC SPACES AND, YOU KNOW, ON COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL LANDS WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE TO PUT THEM. WE KNOW THAT WHEN THE CITY UPDATED ITS CODE A FEW YEARS AGO, I SPOKE WITH STAFF. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS SOME ENHANCING OF THE THE THE TREE PRESERVATION STANDARDS. IF YOU TAKE AWAY MAJOR TREES, THERE'S NOW A HEIGHTENED REPLACEMENT REQUIREMENT. AND FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT OTHER THAN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, IF YOU YOU KNOW, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT TO PLANT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TREES BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING. SO THIS IS ALL SORT OF IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WE LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS WE STARTED IN SEPTEMBER. IT'S NOW OCTOBER. YOU KNOW, I THINK IN ORDER TO WE THINK THERE ARE SOME CHANGES THAT YOU CAN MAKE TO YOUR SORT OF TREE REGULATIONS IN GENERAL THAT CAN BETTER GET YOU TO THAT. I THINK ONE THING THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE QUITE IMPORTANT IS TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A METRIC FOR DOING SO, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUT TWO TREES ON A SINGLE FAMILY LOT, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE THE CANOPY? SO 
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THERE'S DIFFERENT METRICS, DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES USE. LOOKING AT YOUR MOST RECENT REPORT, THE TREE CANOPY COVERAGE WAS IDENTIFIED BASED ON SATELLITE, WHICH IS GREAT, WHICH IS A GREAT WAY OF DOING IT. BUT IT'S YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE DOING A SINGLE DEVELOPMENT, IT'S VERY HARD TO SORT OF SEE, WELL, WHAT CONTRIBUTION DOES THAT MAKING? SO I THINK ONE THING THAT MIGHT BE GOOD TO, TO SORT OF THINK ABOUT MOVING FORWARD IS A MORE COMPREHENSIVE MEASUREMENT OF TREE CANOPY. AND SO FIGURING OUT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE CHANGES THAT YOU'VE MADE TO YOUR CODE BACK IN 2020 THAT HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED. TO BETTER CALCULATE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, THE IMPACT OF HAVING THIS ADDITIONAL TREE PLANTING ON SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ARE? ADMITTEDLY, THIS IS JUST A A FIRST START WE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, MY COLLEAGUES AND I TRIED TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON A SIMPLE STANDARD BASED ON THE WIDTH OF THE LOTS, WHAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK IN JUST ABOUT EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE. AND IT MAY BE THAT WE UNDERSHOT A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS WORKABLE AND PRACTICAL THAT YOU'RE NOT HAVING FOLKS GO TO THE BCA EVERY OTHER WEEK TO GET RELIEF FROM THE REQUIREMENT. SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S AND THIS IS NOT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE. AND CERTAINLY THERE COULD BE ROOM TO ADJUST UP OR DOWN. COULD BE, YOU KNOW, WAYS TO REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, ENHANCE THE REQUIREMENTS TO ALLOW CERTAIN TYPES OF TREES, IDENTIFY CERTAIN SPECIES TO THAT, PROVIDE MORE OF THAT CANOPY. SO THOSE ARE ALL AMENDMENTS THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED. I THINK YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT BECAUSE WE DON'T SPECIFY LIKE TREE, BUT WE SAY TREE, BUT REALLY WE MEAN SHADE TREE. AND AND MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT AN AMENDMENT THERE WHERE WE'RE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PLANTING THAT LITTLE FOUR FOOT TALL JAPANESE MAPLE, RIGHT? I MEAN, TECHNICALLY IT COULD BE A TREE, BUT THAT'S MAYBE SOMETHING WE NEED TO CLEAN UP BEFORE WE BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR. YEAH. AND THERE ARE STREET TREE CRITERIA FOR THE CITY, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ONE OPTION MIGHT BE TO SORT OF TRY TO ADAPT THAT FOR THESE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLING TREES. YOU KNOW, JUST THIS IS JUST A QUESTION. SO LET'S SAY WE WE DOUBLED ALL OF THAT. SO IT WENT FROM TWO TO 4 TO 6. AND THEN AND AND THEN IF THOSE TREES DON'T FIT COULD THEN THAT COULD THOSE EXTRA TREES GO DIRECTLY INTO THE COMMON AREAS OR SOMETHING ELSE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT? I THINK IF IT'S IF IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED OVER TIME, IT MIGHT BE DIFFICULT DEPENDING, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY AS YOU GET TO SOME OF THOSE LATER HOUSES. IN ADDITION, IF IT IS A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, IF IT'S A TEAR DOWN AND REBUILD, THERE MAY NOT BE A COMMON AREA FOR THAT HOUSE TO TO ESSENTIALLY DONATE ITS TREES TO. AND THEN, MISS GABER, COULD THIS BE SOMETHING YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT? BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A PARK FUND. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WHERE, YOU KNOW, IN LIEU OF TREES THAT DEVELOPERS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PAY INTO AND GO INTO THE PARK FUND, I THINK RECENTLY WE HAD A DEVELOPER PLANT TREES AND AN OLDER PART OF A DEVELOPMENT THAT HE COULD NOT PLANT IN HIS THING. SO I LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER AREAS INSTEAD OF JUST PUTTING THAT MONEY DIRECTLY INTO A PARK FUND, BUT MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS CAN TALK ABOUT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, IF YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S MY COMMENT. NOW TO TO MR. REAM'S COMMENT. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DO NOW OR PUT OR IS THAT SOMETHING TO TO YOU OR MISS GABER, WHAT COUNCILMAN REAM SAID ABOUT SHADE TREES, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD AMEND, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT IN THERE? DO A LITTLE FURTHER DISCUSSION, JEFF AND I, AND WE CAN COME BACK AT SECOND READING AND AND GIVE SOME FEEDBACK AND KIND OF DETERMINE AT THAT TIME HOW WE WANT TO GO FORWARD. ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, TOO? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD IDEA OKAY. COUNCIL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS MISS CREAMER. AND I JUST WANTED TO CONSIDER THE SCENARIO WHEN THERE MIGHT ALREADY BE CONSIDERABLE TREE COVER ON A LOT. WOULD SHOULD THERE BE ANY EXCEPTIONS OR ANY WORDING TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT. YEAH THAT'S A GOOD THOUGHT. THANK YOU. THE LORAX WOULD TELL YOU PLANT MORE, 
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BUT. WE TRY TO KEEP IT LIVELY UP HERE. OH ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANYTHING TO SAY? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD THEN. OKAY. SO THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING 
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PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 10TH. ORDINANCE L FIRST READING INTRODUCTION TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE, SECTION 1107 .19 RESIDENTIAL ARCHITECTURE AND SRD, VD, ARD, HMD, UT, USF SECTION 1121 .07 THE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. SECTION 1121 .10 VILLAGE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. SECTION 1121 .09 THE AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. SECTION 1121 .12 HOSPITAL. MIXED USE DISTRICT. SECTION 1121 .20 UPTOWN. SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT. SECTION 1121 .21 UPTOWN TRANSITIONAL DISTRICT AND THE APPENDIX. 
          GLOSSARY OF TERMS. ADMINISTRATION. BACK TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS OUR THIRD AMENDMENT, I BELIEVE, TO SECTION 11 OF 7.19. THIS CAME OUT OF A DESIRE FROM THE WORKING GROUP FOR BETTER DESIGN SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES WITHIN THE CITY. AND SO THE APPROACH THAT WE'VE TAKEN HERE IS TO ADD A NEW REQUIREMENT FOR ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES ON SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS. THE NEXT SLIDE HAS THE THE PACKET HAS THE MENU OF FEATURES. I'VE GOT IT ON THE NEXT SLIDE AS WELL. I'LL SHOW THAT TO YOU. BUT OUT OF THOSE FEATURES A DWELLING IS REQUIRED TO HAVE ON THE FRONT FRONTAGE. SO FACING THE STREET IS REQUIRED TO HAVE THREE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES ON THE SIDES IS REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES. AND ON ANY OTHER FACADES GENERALLY THE REAR. BUT IN CASE THERE'S A FIVE SIDED HOUSE, IS REQUIRED TO HAVE ONE FEATURE. SO WE HAVE A LIST OF QUALIFYING ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES, AS WELL AS SOME FEATURES THAT DO NOT QUALIFY THE REST OF THE AMENDMENT ARE THE AMENDMENT TO THE GLOSSARY, OUR DEFINITIONS OF SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES, AS WELL AS SOME CHANGES TO THE BUILDING TYPOLOGY SECTIONS, AGAIN, TO HAVE CROSS-REFERENCES TO THIS SECTION. SO THESE ARE THE FEATURES THAT QUALIFY. SO YOU CAN HAVE A DOOR. AND THESE ARE THE THE ACTUAL TEXT IN THE CODE IS A LITTLE BIT LONGER. I TRIED TO SHORTEN IT UP JUST FOR PURPOSES OF THIS PRESENTATION, BUT DOORS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF 28FT■!S OF AREA TO COUNT AS AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE. WINDOWS WITH A MINIMUM OF SIX SQUARE FEET OF AREA. YOU CAN HAVE MULTIPLE WINDOWS ON A FACADE THAT QUALIFY. THERE'S A SPACING REQUIREMENT THAT'S IN THE TEXT IN YOUR PACKET. DECORATIVE SHUTTERS THAT ARE ON THE MAJORITY OF THE WINDOWS ON THE FACADE, A CHIMNEY, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S FUNCTIONAL. HAVING MASONRY ON AT LEAST 20% OF THE FACADE COUNTS AS AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE A GABLE VENT, A DORMER, A CORBELS OR DECORATIVE TRIM ON THE ROOFLINE, A DECK, BALCONY, PORTICO OR PORCH, OR DECORATIVE PERMANENTLY INSTALLED LIGHTING. THERE ARE SEVERAL FEATURES THAT DO NOT QUALIFY. THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD DISCUSSION AMONG THE WORKING GROUP. SO FOUNDATION PLANNING SIGNS OF PORCHES. SO IF YOU HAVE A PORCH COMING OFF THE FRONT THAT HAPPENS TO GO TO THE SIDE OF THE FRONT, THAT DOES NOT COUNT AS AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE FOR THE SIDE FRONTAGE. IF THE PORCH ACTUALLY WRAPS AROUND THE BUILDING, THEN IT CAN COUNT AS AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE ON MULTIPLE FACADES AND WATER TABLE. AND, YOU KNOW, SIMPLE ROOF LINES DON'T COUNT AS ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I THINK THIS ONE'S PRETTY EXPLANATORY. OKAY. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WATER TABLE AND THAT NOT COUNTING LIKE THEN I THOUGHT IT SAID MASONRY MORE THAN 20% WOULD COUNT. SO ON THE ON A SIDE WOULD THAT COUNT OR NOT. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE MASONRY THAT THAT THE FACADE, AT LEAST 20% OF THE FACADE CONSISTS OF MASONRY THAT WOULD COUNT. SO IF PART OF THAT IS A WATER TABLE, THAT WOULD COUNT, BUT JUST A WATER TABLE. STANDING ALONE IS NOT AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE FOR PURPOSES OF THIS PROVISION. 
          ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? BECAUSE THIS PART OF THE AGENDA IS SO RIVETING AND I WOULD HATE 
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TO I WOULD HATE TO KEEP IT MOVING, BUT I HAVE TO. SO THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING 
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PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 10TH, 2025. ORDINANCE M MADAM FIRST READING INTRODUCTION TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE 1107 .19 RESIDENTIAL ARCHITECTURE AND. D V R D A R D HMD UT, USF SECTION 1121 .07. THE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT SECTION 1121 .10 VILLAGE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT SECTION 1121 .09 THE AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. SECTION 1121 .12 HOSPITAL. MIXED USE DISTRICT. SECTION 1121 .20 UPTOWN SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT AND SECTION 1121 .21 UPTOWN TRANSITIONAL DISTRICT. SO THIS IS OUR FOURTH AND FINAL AMENDMENT TO SECTION 11 07. 19. THIS IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE A MINIMUM ROOF PITCH OF 6 TO 12. RISE TO RUN ON THE PRIMARY ROOF OF A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLING. THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AMONG THE PNC WORKING GROUP ABOUT THIS PROVISION. WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. PART OF THE DISCUSSION WAS A DESIRE THAT IN NEW RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS, THAT THERE BE A VARIETY OF ROOF PITCHES, BUT IN PRACTICE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SINCE THESE HOMES ARE BUILT BY INDIVIDUAL BUILDERS, YOU KNOW, OVER MANY YEARS, IT'S HARD TO COME UP WITH A REALLY FAIR WAY TO COME UP WITH ANY SORT OF REQUIREMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF HOUSES HAVE A CERTAIN ROOF PITCH. SO WE, YOU KNOW, THE CONSENSUS OF THE WORKING GROUP WAS TO ESTABLISH, YOU KNOW, AS A FIRST EFFORT, A MINIMUM 6 TO 12 ROOF PITCH, SOMETHING THAT'S SUFFICIENTLY THAT HAS SUFFICIENT PITCH TO BE VISUALLY ATTRACTIVE AND BE PART OF THE BETTER DESIGN THAT THE CITY IS LOOKING FOR, FOR ITS HOUSING. COUNCIL. HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, MR. PRESIDENT? JUST ONE QUESTION. MAYBE A RHETORICAL QUESTION WITHOUT NAMING A COMMUNITY. THIS IS BORROWED FROM OTHER OHIO COMMUNITIES, IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE SO, AND I CAN'T YOU DON'T HAVE TO NAME THE COMMUNITY. I'M JUST SAYING THAT THIS EXISTS ELSEWHERE. YES, THAT WAS MY RECOLLECTION. AND A MINIMUM ROOF PITCH IS NOT UNCOMMON. YEAH. THANK YOU. WELL, AND IT HELPED I MEAN IT HELPS BREAK UP, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH THEM AND IT GIVES YOU MORE OF AN ARCHITECTURAL, YOU KNOW, VISUAL. 
          THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR IS ESCAPE ME. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THAT YOU'RE JUST NOT SEEING THAT JUST SAME STYLE OF ROOF PITCH FOR EVERY SINGLE HOME AS YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE STREET. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 10TH. ORDINANCE AND 
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FIRST READING. INTRODUCTION TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE, SECTION 1109 .10 RESERVED. AND OH, I FEEL GREAT. SO THIS APPLIES TO ALL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S UNDERGOING SUBDIVISION. IT'S A NEW SECTION TO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. 11 09. 12 I NEED TO GIVE CREDIT TO YOUR STAFF FOR HELPING DEVELOP THESE. THESE ARE A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF OUT OF MY SWEET SPOT WORKING ON ZONING ORDINANCES. SO THEY'RE TECHNICAL BASIC STANDARDS FOR TOPSOIL. THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, AFTER CONSTRUCTION IS DONE, A HOME BUILDER COMES ON THE SITE, PUTS DOWN SOD, THAT THE SOD HAS A FIGHTING CHANCE OF SURVIVING BECAUSE THERE'S ACTUAL TOPSOIL. SO IT REQUIRES THE REMOVAL OF FOREIGN MATERIALS AND ROCKS GREATER THAN AN INCH IN DIAMETER, REQUIRES IT TO BE FOUR INCHES OF TOPSOIL THAT'S LOOSELY COMPACTED TO FACILITATE GROWING, THE TOPSOIL NEEDS TO BE FREE OF GRASS, BRUSH, AND ROOTS. IT NEEDS TO BE FINISHED AND MADE READY FOR SOD AND PLANT INSTALLATION. YOU KNOW, I CAN ACTUALLY APPRECIATE THIS AMENDMENT. CASE IN POINT PUTTING UP HALLOWEEN DECORATIONS. I BROKE A NUMBER OF STAKES TRYING TO GET MY BLOW UPS IN IN THE GROUND, SO I CAN ACTUALLY RELATE TO WHY THIS IS IS BENEFICIAL NOT ONLY JUST FROM A, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE GRASS TO GROW VIEWPOINT, BUT ALSO JUST A, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE YOUR GRASS BURN IN AREAS THAT HAS LESS SOIL FROM THE ALL THE ROCKS. I'VE GOT IT IN MY YARD IN SOME AREAS. SO I ACTUALLY DO APPRECIATE THIS, THIS AMENDMENT AND I CAN ACTUALLY RELATE TO IT. 
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SO WE WERE TAKING YOUR BLOW UP CHARACTERS. YOU KNOW, I WAS I WAS SO MAD THE OTHER NIGHT. AND THEN WE GOT A BUNCH OF RAIN. I WAS LIKE, MAN, I SHOULD HAVE WAITED A DAY. NOTHING WORSE THAN WHEN YOUR WEED WHACKING AND YOU FLIP A ROCK UP AND IT HITS YOU IN THE FACE, RIGHT? SO ANYBODY ELSE? OH GO AHEAD. SO I HAD A QUESTION LIKE SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS, YOU KNOW, THE SOIL BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT IS EVEN PUT IN DOESN'T HAVE LIKE THAT LAYER OF LOAMY TOPSOIL. I MEAN, THERE'S NONE. SO HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH A SITUATION LIKE THAT? WHERE THE EXISTING SITE DOESN'T HAVE TOPSOIL? IT'S JUST LIKE CLAY, LIKE. LIKE MILL VALLEY, YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT WAS DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, THE THE FARM FIELD, THAT WHEAT FIELD THAT WAS THERE, IT WAS THERE WAS NO FOUR INCHES OF THICK LOAMY SOIL ON THE TOP. IT WAS ALL GONE. SO WHERE DO YOU GET FOUR INCHES? YEAH. EACH OF THOSE BUILDERS, WHEN THEY GO TO CONSTRUCT THOSE HOUSES, IS GOING TO HAVE TO BRING THAT TOPSOIL IN TRUCKLOAD OR TWO LOADS OF IT, WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, HOWEVER MANY THAT TAKES FOR THAT PARCEL BEFORE THEY LAY THAT, THAT SOD OR SEED DOWN. 
          ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY IN THE WORKING GROUP, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE MEMBERS WITH A VARIETY OF BACKGROUNDS AND EXPERIENCE. AND IN ONE OF CASE OF ONE INDIVIDUAL, YOU KNOW, THEIR BACKGROUND IS HOME BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION, AND THERE'S SOME PRETTY IN-DEPTH KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD PRACTICES AND NOT SO GOOD PRACTICES. SO I WOULD SAY THIS HAD COME FORWARD FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT ARE SOME NOT GOOD PRACTICES THAT YIELD POOR RESULTS? YEAH. AND WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TREE CANOPY COVERAGE AND MAINTAINING OF SHRUBS AND ALL THAT STUFF, I MEAN, HOW MUCH LIKE YOU CAN DRIVE THROUGH GREEN PASTURES, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S A IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE. 
          AND THERE'S OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE LIKE THIS, BUT THE SUGAR MAPLES WERE PLANTED PROBABLY 30 YEARS AGO, AND THOSE POOR SUGAR MAPLES HAVE NEVER GROWN MORE THAN WHAT THEY WERE PLANTED THE DAY THEY WERE, THEY DAY THEY WERE PUT IN. I MEAN, THEY'VE NEVER GROWN SINCE THE DAY THEY WERE PLANTED. AND HOW MUCH NICER WOULD THOSE AREAS BE WITH A LARGER TREE IF THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN SOME SOIL OR SOMETHING PUT DOWN? AND I THINK YOU CAN DRIVE THROUGH A LOT OF SUBDIVISIONS AND AROUND TOWN AND YOU, YOU KNOW, AND YOU SEE THAT, SEE THAT AS WELL. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S GLAD TO SEE ON THE BOARD WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THIS TYPE OF WORK TO GIVE US RECOMMENDATIONS WE NEED THAT SHOWS THAT IT CAN BE DONE. YEAH. THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL. 
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THANK YOU. ORDINANCE. OH FIRST READING INTRODUCTION TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE. SECTION 1123 .07 REQUIRED TRASH AREA. SECTION 1133 .09 DESIGN REVIEW STANDARDS FOR MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED BUILDING TYPOLOGIES. SECTION 1133 .10 DESIGN REVIEW STANDARDS FOR OFFICE, INSTITUTIONAL, MIXED USE AND COMMERCIAL BUILDING TYPOLOGIES AND SECTION 1133 .11 DESIGN REVIEW STANDARDS FOR MANUFACTURING AND OFFICE WAREHOUSE BUILDING TYPOLOGIES. OKAY SO THIS SO THE THE FIRST SET OF AMENDMENTS THAT WE LOOKED AT SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE DEALT WITH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TOPSOIL DEALT WITH EVERYTHING. AND SO EVERYTHING, ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS AFTER THIS ONE DEAL WITH NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT GENERALLY. SO THIS FIRST ONE IS FOR TRASH ENCLOSURES. SO THERE WAS A DESIRE AMONG THE WORKING GROUP TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE TRASH ENCLOSURES, REFUSE ENCLOSURES. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE CODE, YOUR STANDARDS ARE ACTUALLY QUITE GOOD. YOU KNOW, COMPARING THEM TO OTHER COMMUNITIES, THINGS LIKE MATERIALS AND HEIGHT, THEY'RE ACTUALLY QUITE STRONG STANDARDS. BASED ON THE DISCUSSION, THOUGH, WHERE IT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOMETIMES CHALLENGES IS WITH SOME OF THE MATERIALS. THEY LOOK GOOD WHEN INSTALLED, BUT MAINTENANCE CAN BE A PROBLEM IF YOU ARE A A LANDOWNER THAT'S NOT TAKING GOOD CARE OF THEM. SOME OF THE MATERIALS CAN WARP AND NO LONGER LOOK AS GOOD. AND THESE ARE REFUSE AREAS. AND SO YOU'LL HAVE TRUCKS BACKING UP INTO THEM TO GET TO PICK UP REFUSE. 
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SOMETIMES THEY DON'T. THEY'RE NOT SUPER CAREFUL AND BUMP INTO THE ENCLOSURES. SO WE'VE MADE A FEW MODIFICATIONS IN ORDER TO MAKE THESE TRASH ENCLOSURES ATTRACTIVE, BUT PRIMARILY MORE DURABLE, SO THAT EVEN IF THEY GET NICKED BY A GARBAGE TRUCK, EVEN IF THE LANDOWNER ISN'T TAKING THE TIME THAT THEY NEED TO MAINTAIN THEM, THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK GOOD AS THEY CONTINUE TO FUNCTION AS SCREENS OF THESE TRASH RECEPTACLES. SO WE'VE BUILT ON THE MATERIAL STANDARDS. SO YOU CAN NOW USE METAL, VINYL, MASONRY OR OTHER DURABLE MATERIALS. WOOD WAS IDENTIFIED AS AN ISSUE, SO THAT WILL NO LONGER BE PERMITTED FOR THE ENCLOSURE. THE DOORS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE STEEL POSTS AND STEEL FRAME DOORS. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE PART OF THE ENCLOSURE THAT'S BEING OPENED AND CLOSED ALL THE TIME. THAT'S WHERE THERE'S THE HIGHEST CHANCE THAT A TRUCK IS GOING TO BACK IN AND IMPACT THEM. AND SO THAT'S A NEW STANDARD THAT'S BEING INCLUDED. WE'VE INCREASED THE HEIGHT BY ONE FOOT. AND THE CURRENT CODE, THE ENCLOSURES ARE REQUIRED TO BE ONE FOOT ABOVE THE TALLEST CONTAINER. WE'VE INCREASED THAT TO TWO FEET. AND WE'VE MADE A COUPLE OF OTHER JUST CLEAN UP CHANGES TO REDUCE DUPLICATION IN YOUR CODE. SO AGAIN THESE ARE PRETTY MODEST CHANGES. BUT WE THINK THEY'LL IMPROVE THE THE QUALITY OF THESE TRASH ENCLOSURES. NOT NOT ONLY WHEN THEY'RE FIRST INSTALLED BUT OVER TIME. SO AGAIN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LIKE TO YOUR EXAMPLE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND WHO'S GOING TO MAINTAIN IT, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA WITH THIS WITH COUNCIL IS BUILDING WITH MATERIALS THAT WE KNOW WILL HAVE A LONGER SPAN OF LIFE THAN SOMETHING THAT MIGHT NEED REPAIR WITHIN A YEAR OR TWO YEARS AFTER IT'S COMPLETED. 
          SO HOPEFULLY BUILDING WITH A STRONGER MATERIAL LESSENS THE NEED TO HIRE SOMEBODY FOR MAINTENANCE RIGHT AWAY. AS WE CONTINUE TO THINK ABOUT WHEN WE'RE DEVELOPING MARYSVILLE, YOU KNOW, MATERIALS SHOULD BE MATERIALS THAT WILL AGE GRACEFULLY AND AND HOPEFULLY LOWER BURDEN OF COSTS, NOT ONLY FOR OURSELVES, BUT ALSO FOR THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS ADDING THIS, THIS IMPROVEMENT TO THEIR ALREADY SITE. SO. DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH MY. 
          MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE A QUESTION, BUT I DO WANT TO CONFIRM THAT YES WE HAVE. WE ARE BEGINNING TO SEE THIS TYPE OF IMPROVEMENTS. AND IF WE LOOK AT WHAT THE CITY DID ITSELF OVER AT THE PARKING. YEAH, WE EVEN OURS, WE, WE REDID A LARGE PARKING LOT AT THE CORNER OF PLUM AND SIX, AND WE DID MAKE BECAUSE MANY OF THE RESTAURANTS THEY HAD THE TOTES, IF YOU WILL. 
          AND IT WAS ALWAYS A MESS. YEAH. SO THREE YEARS AGO WE INVESTED A FAIRLY LARGE SUM. AND IF I LOOK AT WHAT THE MATERIAL THAT WE ALREADY USED THREE YEARS AGO, THERE IS THAT WE, WE REALLY DO WHAT WE PREACH BECAUSE THAT PARTICULAR AREA WHERE WE HAVE THE TWO. CONTAINERS IS MADE OUT OF VINYL. YEAH, IT'S ABOUT 18IN FROM THE BOTTOM. YEAH. SO IT'S NICE AND CLEAN, HAS DOORS AND IT IS VERY DURABLE MATERIAL. AND I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE THAT THE WOOD, WHICH GENERALLY HAS A 20 YEAR LIFESPAN, IF IT'S IN DRY GROUND, MAYBE 25, BUT 20 YEARS IS ABOUT THE LIMIT. IF I SEE SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S CURRENTLY GOING ON. YEAH. AND AND I WAS VERY IMPRESSED TO SEE ESPECIALLY ONE LOT THAT THE BUILDING AT THE MOMENT AND THEY ARE ALREADY THEY'RE ACTUALLY USING BLOCKS TO AND IT'S VISIBLE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE USING IT FOR. YEAH. WHICH IS WHAT THE TRASH COMPACTORS. AND IT DOES, IT DOES SURPRISE ME AND IMPRESS ME IN A WAY THAT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL COMPANIES THAT ARE COMING IN, THAT THEY ALREADY ARE USING THOSE STANDARDS. YEAH. SO IT YEAH, I REALLY THINK THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE STRONGEST ONES THAT WE HAVE FOR LONGEVITY. HOW IS IT GOING TO LOOK. NOT NOW, NOT TEN YEARS FROM NOW, 
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BUT 15, 20 YEARS FROM NOW. YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S THE GOAL. YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE HEARING? NONE. 
          THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 10TH. WE'RE AT P 
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ORDINANCE P FIRST READING INTRODUCTION TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE, SECTION 1125 .04 LANDSCAPE PLAN REQUIREMENTS AND SECTION 1125 .06 MINIMUM LANDSCAPE STANDARDS. GREAT. SO THIS CAME OUT OF A DESIRE TO IMPROVE THE PARKING LOT SCREENING STANDARDS. SO THIS APPLIES TO ALL DEVELOPMENT EXCEPT FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS. AND THE GOAL REALLY IS TO TO TO JUST TO MAKE SOME TWEAKS TO THOSE STANDARDS. YOU KNOW WE IN THE WORKING GROUP WE SAW EXAMPLES OF SOME TYPES OF LANDSCAPE SCREENING THAT SEEMED TO WORK WELL. SO WHAT WE TRIED TO DO WAS SOME TWEAKS TO MAKE SURE THAT LANDSCAPE, THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S PUT IN, HAS A BETTER CHANCE TO THRIVE. AND THAT PARKING LOT LANDSCAPING IS A LITTLE MORE EFFECTIVE. SO WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE CURRENT REGULATIONS AROUND FOUNDATION PLANTING BEDS. SO THEY'RE NOW REQUIRED TO BE A MINIMUM OF FIVE FEET WIDE OF SOIL. SO OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN HAVE ROCKS OR ANOTHER TYPE OF DECORATION AROUND IT, BUT IT NEEDS AT LEAST FIVE FEET OF SOIL. AND THAT WILL HELP TO ALLOW THAT LANDSCAPING TO THRIVE ONCE IT'S PLANTED. WE'VE ALSO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS IT'S UNDERSTOOD IN THE CODE, BUT WE'VE MADE CLEAR THAT THERE CAN BE FLEXIBILITY IN WHERE THIS FOUNDATION LANDSCAPING IS PLANTED. SO THERE'S REQUIRED TO BE THIS FOUNDATION PLANTING ALONG 40% OF THE FACADE, YOU KNOW, FOR RETAIL SITES THAT WANT TO HAVE OUTDOOR DINING OR OTHER TYPES OF OUTDOOR USES, IT ALLOWS THEM FLEXIBILITY IN WHERE THIS LANDSCAPING IS PLACED. IT CAN BE RIGHT UP TO THE BUILDING, OR IT CAN BE A LITTLE FURTHER OUT TO ALLOW THOSE SORTS OF AREAS FOR OUTDOOR DINING. WE'VE ALSO UPDATED THE PARKING LOT SCREENING STANDARDS. SO THIS IS THE VEGETATION THAT IS USED TO SCREEN PARKING LOTS FROM THE STREET. SO THE PLANTINGS ARE REQUIRED TO BE TWO FEET TALL AT INSTALLATION THEY ARE CONTINUED. 
          THIS IS A STANDARD THAT'S STILL IN THERE, THE THREE FEET TALL WITHIN TWO YEARS. AND THEY'RE REQUIRED TO CREATE TO USE EVERGREEN PLANTINGS SO THAT IN JUNE AND DECEMBER IT'S STILL AN EFFECTIVE SCREEN. THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS IN THE WORKING GROUP ABOUT SCREENING PARKING LOTS, NOT ONLY FROM THE STREET, BUT FROM ADJOINING PROPERTIES. WE LEFT IT AT THIS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE MAY BE SOME CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT SCREENING BETWEEN PARKING LOTS FOR ADJOINING PROPERTIES. SO THE PROVISION AS WRITTEN ENHANCES THE SCREENING ONLY ALONG STREETS. DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS. THE THE ONLY THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS I STILL THINK THAT SHRUBBERY PLANTED IN BETWEEN PARKING LOTS IS STILL IMPORTANT. AND THEN ALSO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN THERE, BUT MAKING SURE THAT NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, THREE FEET TALL WITHIN TWO YEARS, BUT SHAPING THEM AS A HEDGE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T REALLY REQUIRE THAT. SO A LOT OF THE SHRUBS, IF YOU LOOK AT COMMERCIAL PARKING LOTS, ARE SCRAPED OR SHEARED IN CIRCLES OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS, AND THAT'S JUST, THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, DOING A DISSERVICE TO THE PURPOSE OF LANDSCAPE SHRUBS BECAUSE THEY'RE THERE TO BLOCK HEADLIGHTS. I, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T RECALL WHAT IT SAYS. IT MAY SAY THAT IT'S REQUIRED TO BE FORMED INTO A HEDGE. OKAY, I KNOW THAT. I KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT. YEAH. LET US LOOK LET US LOOK AT THAT. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. OH, SORRY, MR. KIRBY. YEAH. IF YOU DON'T MIND, I, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT FOR A RESIDENTIAL AREA, A MALT TYPE. YEAH. WOULD DEFINITELY UPSET THE QUALITY OF A HOUSE. NOT TOO LONG AGO, WITHIN THE LAST YEAR, MALTS WAS USED AT ONE OF THE LOCAL BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENTS. AND SOMEBODY THAT SMOKED A CIGARETTE THREW IT INTO THE MALT. AND SUBSEQUENTLY, FIVE HOURS LATER, THERE WAS A FIRE OUT THERE. AND I HAVE, FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT, SEEING MORE AND MORE RIVERBED TYPE GRAVEL BEING USED UP AGAINST THE BUILDINGS. AND AGAIN, WE'RE 
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TALKING SPECIFICALLY NOW ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL, BUT WOULD YOU ALLOW AT SOME POINT IN TIME, RESIDENTIAL, OR WOULD YOU DISALLOW RIVERBED AT ONE POINT IN TIME, EITHER OR RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I'M GOING TO DEFER TO STAFF TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          THIS IS A IT'S A ONLY A REQUIREMENT THAT THE TYPE BE LISTED ON THE PLANS AND LANDSCAPE PLANS AS THEY'RE DEVELOPED. YEAH, WE WE'VE HAD SOME INSTANCES WHERE TYPICALLY THE THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WILL ALLOW AN APPLICANT TO DO THE ROCK MULCH SURROUNDING THEIR BUILDING JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE IF IT'S A RESTAURANT, THERE CAN BE ISSUES WITH WITH RODENTS, WITH THE HARDWOOD MULCH, IF IT'S ELSEWHERE ON SITE, TYPICALLY STAFF OR DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ENCOURAGES THE HARDWOOD MULCH TO BE USED, AND THAT'S ACROSS THE BOARD FOR MULTIFAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED OR COMMERCIAL OFFICE INDUSTRIAL. SO THE ITEMS THAT COME THROUGH DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, THAT'S KIND OF TYPICALLY OUR THOUGHT OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO BASICALLY A THE THE LIST THAT YOU MENTIONED MULTIFAMILY. WELL ALMOST EVERYTHING COMMERCIAL. YEAH. YOU WILL ALLOW THE RIVERBED GRAVEL AND THEN THE RESIDENTIAL, YOU WOULD BE ALLOWED TO MAINTAIN MULCH. WE DON'T HAVE ANY SAY RIGHT NOW IN THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON WHAT THEY DO FOR THEIR MULCH BEDS. SO THAT WOULD JUST BE UP TO THAT OWN PARCEL INTO THAT OWN INDIVIDUAL WHO OWNS THAT PARCEL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND THE ONLY THE ONLY THING I'LL ADD IS THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, GRAVEL IS BECOMING YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S A PEOPLE ARE DOING IT RIGHT JUST BECAUSE OF THE COST. AND I THINK ALSO, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF THIS FAD RIGHT NOW TO PUT THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE A LOT OF IT ON LIKE PINTEREST OR FACEBOOK. IT'S BECOMING IT'S LIKE A FAD JUST AND THERE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. IT'S MORE OF JUST SOMETHING PEOPLE ARE DOING. YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU CAN YOU CAN LOOK AT A PRIME DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DAIRY QUEEN AND HOW THAT VISUALLY FEELS WITH GRAVEL AND PLANTS COMPARED TO SHEETS, AND HOW THAT VISUALLY FEELS. AND TO ME, I'M NOT A RIVER ROCK GUY. I THINK THAT SHEETS HAS MORE OF A WELCOMING, IT'S SOFTER FEEL. IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE HARDSCAPE COMPARED TO YOU. LOOK AT DAIRY QUEEN AND IT FEELS LIKE YOU'RE IN ARIZONA AND IT DOESN'T REALLY FEEL. AND THERE'S IT'S NOT REALLY I MEAN, AND AND BECAUSE RIVER ROCK IS SO NEW, I THINK IT ALSO HAS TO PLAY INTO HOW WELL ARE THOSE PLANTS GOING TO GROW IN THAT, IN THAT TYPE OF SOIL. BECAUSE WE KNOW GRAVEL TRACKS HE HOLDS ON TO, HE DRIES OUT THE SOIL QUICKER. YOU KNOW, IT SOMETIMES CAN CAUSE THE PH IN THE SOIL TO CHANGE. SO TO YOUR POINT, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE WORKING GROUP WAS IF SOMEBODY HAS A COMMERCIAL SITE WHERE THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT, LET'S SAY, A FIRE, THERE WOULD BE A SECTION, LET'S SAY A TWO FOOT ROCK AROUND THE BUILDING. AND THEN IN FRONT OF THAT THERE WOULD BE SOIL AND, AND SHRUBBERY PLANTED SO THAT THERE IS A GAP BETWEEN THE MULCH BED AND THE GRAVEL AND THE BUILDING WITH GRAVEL TO PREVENT SOME KIND OF FIRE. AND IT STILL GIVES THAT FEEL. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AS WELL IN THE WORKING GROUP. BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IF ANYBODY'S DRIVING AROUND, I THINK DRIVING TO DAIRY QUEEN PARKING LOT AND THEN GO THROUGH SHEETZ AND I THINK YOU'RE JUST IT JUST FEELS DIFFERENTLY JUST AND NOT ONLY IN THE, IN THE CHARACTER OF THE LANDSCAPING, BUT THE PERCENTAGE OF PLANTS IN IT. AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO CHARACTER, THE FEEL OF THE WHOLE ENTIRE PROPERTY ITSELF. SO AND SAYING THAT THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING, PUBLIC HEARING ON ON NOVEMBER 10TH ORDINANCE ARE OKAY. THANK YOU BRIAN. THANK YOU. Q I'M SORRY. 
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FIRST READING INTRODUCTION TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE, SECTION 1133 .10 DESIGN REVIEW STANDARDS FOR OFFICE, INSTITUTIONAL, MIXED USE AND COMMERCIAL BUILDING TYPOLOGIES REGARDING MULTI-TENANT ENTRANCE FEATURES. SO THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH THE WORKING GROUP ABOUT THIS PROVISION AND THE THE AMENDMENT RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ENDED UP WITH IS IS PRETTY MINOR. YOU KNOW, THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD UNDER THE REGULATIONS HAS A LOT OF AUTHORITY TO WORK WITH DEVELOPERS ON THE DESIGN OF 
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THEIR DEVELOPMENTS. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY THERE ARE YOU KNOW, THIS REALLY CAME UP WITH A DESIRE OUT OF A DESIRE FROM THE WORKING GROUP TO HAVE SOME STANDARDS TO FOR THESE MULTI-TENANT BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, BUILDINGS THAT HAVE MULTIPLE GROUND FLOOR TENANTS TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN FOR EACH DIFFERENT TENANT. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED AS WE WENT THROUGH THE WORKING GROUP WAS THAT THERE WERE EXAMPLES OF RECENT DEVELOPMENT WHERE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT TENANT ENTRANCES HAVE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURE THAT PEOPLE LIKED. BUT THERE WERE ALSO EXAMPLES OF RECENT DEVELOPMENT WITH MULTIPLE TENANTS, WHICH HAD VERY SIMILAR ARCHITECTURE, WHICH PEOPLE LIKED BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN. SO WHAT WE SETTLED ON AT THE END WAS A RECOMMENDATION IN THIS SECTION 1133 THAT APPLIES TO THESE INSTITUTIONAL, MIXED USE AND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS TO RECOMMEND THAT DEVELOPMENT INCLUDE DEFINED ENTRANCES FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE SERVING MULTIPLE TENANTS. THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD HAS BEEN ABLE TO SORT OF DISCUSS WITH APPLICANTS AS PROJECTS COME UP. SO WHAT THIS REALLY DOES IS IT SORT OF SPOTLIGHTS IT TO THE DRB FOR THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, TO SEE IF IN THE APPROPRIATE CIRCUMSTANCE, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A UNIQUE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AROUND THE DIFFERENT ENTRANCES. AND THERE'S ALSO A SMALL CLARIFICATION TO CLEAR UP SOME AMBIGUITY IN THE CURRENT CODE COUNCIL. AGAIN, THE ONLY THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY ABOUT THIS AND YOU GUYS CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. NOW REMIND ME IS THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE A COMMERCIAL? IS THIS THE PART OF THE CODE WHERE IT SAYS, IF YOU HAVE A COMMERCIAL, IF YOU HAVE A COMMERCIAL BUILDING, AND LET'S SAY THERE'S FIVE TENANTS IN THAT BUILDING. SO LIKE RIGHT NOW, FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, YOU GO DOWN TO COLEMAN'S CROSSING AND YOU HAVE A STRIP MALL AND EVERY, EVERY, EVERY STOREFRONT LOOKS THE EXACT SAME. AND YOU MIGHT SO LIKE WE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE ALUMINUM DOORS AND WINDOWS. COULD THAT HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT COLOR INSTEAD OF ALL SILVER? COULD ONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN GREEN AND BLACK AND RED, YOU KNOW, TO SYMBOLIZE, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS OF OF THAT STORE? COULD THERE BE AWNINGS, COULD THERE BE PEDESTRIAN LIGHT FIXTURES ON THE BUILDING? COULD THERE BE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT TREATMENTS OF WINDOWS AND DOORS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS TO HELP ENHANCE THOSE TYPES OF AREAS? AND THE REASON WHY WE DID THIS IS BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT COMMERCIAL AREAS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT HAVE A STRIP MALL AND THERE MIGHT BE AN AWNING AND DORMERS AND THERE MIGHT BE LIKE TREES ALONG THE SIDEWALK AND THEN THE PARKING LOT. AND THEN WHEN YOU PARK, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT THOSE. AND BASED ON OUR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, WHEN RESIDENTS VOTED, THEY OVERWHELMINGLY VOTED FOR THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, MORE SO THAN THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. SO THAT'S KIND OF SO WHEN YOU'RE OUT DRIVING AROUND, YOU KNOW, AND YOU GO TO DIFFERENT SUBURBS THAT MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER CRITERIA FOR COMMERCIAL. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THIS WAS COMING FROM. AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT ON THIS SUBJECT. SO IF ANYBODY DOESN'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 10TH, 2025. AND WE'RE AT ORDINANCE R FIRST READING 
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INTRODUCTION TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE, SECTION 1133 .10 DESIGN REVIEW STANDARDS FOR OFFICE, INSTITUTIONAL, MIXED USE AND COMMERCIAL BUILDING TYPOLOGIES REGARDING GLASS. OKAY, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE SAME SECTION THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. SO LIKE MANY COMMUNITIES, MARYSVILLE HAS A TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENT FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. SO ALONG A FRONTAGE A ALONG A STREET FRONTAGE, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE FACADE NEEDS TO BE TRANSPARENT. AND LIKE MANY COMMUNITIES, MARYSVILLE DOES NOT ALLOW THE USE OF SPANDREL GLASS TO MEET THAT TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENT. BUT, YOU KNOW, EVEN IN COMMUNITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENTS, DON'T ALLOW SPANDREL GLASS TO BE USED TO MEET THOSE TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENTS. DO ALLOW SPANDREL GLASS AS A SORT OF SECONDARY ACCENT MATERIAL, WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE TO TO DO SO, NOT TO MEET THE TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENT. THE WAY THE CURRENT CODE IS DRAFTED SEEMS 
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TO PROHIBIT SPANDREL GLASS ALTOGETHER. SO THIS IS A PRETTY SIMPLE CHANGE, WHICH MAKES CLEAR THAT SPANDREL GLASS IS PERMITTED AS A SECONDARY MATERIAL, BUT IT CANNOT BE USED AS THE GLASS THAT IS USED TO MEET THAT 40% TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENT. COUNCIL. WAS THERE ANY PUN INTENDED IN THAT IT MAKES IT CLEAR? I'LL TAKE CREDIT FOR THAT. THAT'S A GOOD ONE, MR. HUNTER. YEAH, YEAH, WELL, HE SAID IT. SO ALL CREDIT TO HIM. HI. YEAH, THIS THIS PARTICULAR. I'M JUST GLAD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WITH JOKES TONIGHT. YEAH. YEAH. THIS. THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC. I AM THE FIRST TO ADMIT I. WHEN WE HAD WENT INTO THIS DISCUSSION, I HAD NO IDEA WHAT SPANDREL GLASS WAS. SO THERE'S AGAIN, THERE'S SOME KNOWLEDGE THAT LIES WITHIN MEMBERS OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION. THIS WAS DISCUSSED AT LENGTH, A BIT TOO FAR AT LENGTH FOR MY PERSONAL INTEREST, BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY IT COME FORWARD WITH A GOOD RECOMMENDATION. SO APPRECIATE THE WORK AGAIN OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS. SO IF THERE ISN'T ANY MORE TOPICS, ANY MORE QUESTIONS THIS BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING 
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ON NOVEMBER 10TH. ORDINANCE S FIRST READING INTRODUCTION TO APPROVE A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO PART 11 ZONING CODE, SECTION 1133 .10 DESIGN REVIEW STANDARDS FOR OFFICE, INSTITUTIONAL, MIXED USE AND COMMERCIAL BUILDING TYPOLOGIES REGARDING PARKING SPACES. OKAY, THIS IS OUR THIRD AMENDMENT IN A ROW TO SECTION 1133 AND OUR LAST PROPOSED AMENDMENT CURRENTLY IN SECTION 1130 3.10. THERE IS WHAT I LIKE TO CALL A SOFT CAP ON PARKING. SO THE ZONING ORDINANCE ESTABLISHES A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF REQUIRED PARKING FOR EVERY DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND DEVELOPMENT CAN PROVIDE BETWEEN 100% OF THE MINIMUM AND 125% OF THE MINIMUM. THE OFFICE INSTITUTIONAL, MIXED USE AND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS HERE, IF THEY GO OVER THAT 125% LEVEL, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARKING TODAY, BUT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, ADDITIONAL SQUARE FEET OF LANDSCAPING FOR EACH ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE. THIS REVISION CHANGES THAT SOFT CAP TO A HARD CAP. NOW, DEVELOPMENT THAT'S SUBJECT TO SECTION 1130 3.1 CANNOT PROVIDE MORE PARKING SPACES THAN 125% OF THE MAXIMUM. 
          IF THERE'S SOME UNUSUAL SITE, CIRCUMSTANCE OR HARDSHIP, THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND GET A VARIANCE FROM THE BCA. BUT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, PART OF AN INTENT TO TO TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT AN OVERSUPPLY OF PARKING AND ALL THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS THAT THAT HAS. COUNCIL. HEARING NONE MISS BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 10TH. WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK. 
          THANK YOU. I KNOW, I KNOW, IT WAS A RIVETING SECTION OF OUR MEETING TONIGHT, SO I'M GREATLY 
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APPRECIATE FOR YOUR TIME. ORDINANCE T FIRST READING INTRODUCTION TO ADOPT A CAPITAL BUDGET FOR 2026. ADMINISTRATION. THESE NEXT FOUR ORDINANCES RELATE TO THE 2026 BUDGET. THE FOUR COMPONENTS OF THAT YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR YOUR BOOKS. NOW, I THINK I WOULD ENCOURAGE IS REVIEW THOSE AS WELL. TERRY WILL BE BACK ON THURSDAY. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THAT WOULD BE THE PLACE TO DIRECT THOSE. AND HE CAN DIRECT THOSE ACCORDINGLY. ANYTHING ELSE RELATED TO THE BUDGET? I WILL DEFER TO SANDY ON OKAY COUNCIL. DEAR MR. BORDEN, NO, I THINK I'LL ECHO CHIEF BROOK'S REMARKS, REVIEW THE MATERIAL AND MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE COME BACK FOR SECOND READING THAT YOU'RE PREPARED TO DISCUSS FURTHER, THAT BUDGET BOOKS WERE RECENTLY MADE AVAILABLE TO ALL COUNCIL. WE REVIEWED THE BUDGET HIGH LEVEL LAST WEEK DURING OUR MEETING, AND MR. BURBY AND I WILL WITHOUT A DOUBT HAVE FOLLOW UP MEETINGS WITH THE FINANCE STAFF. BUT PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE BECOMES FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WILL BE PROPOSED AS YOUR 2026 FINANCIAL CONDITION. OKAY, ANYBODY ELSE? I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY TO PUT TOGETHER A BUDGET. THANK YOU TO FINANCE COMMITTEE. YOU KNOW LIKE ALWAYS 
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IT'S IT'S ALWAYS GREAT KNOWING WE HAVE A BUDGET. WE WORK IN OUR BUDGET AND WE'RE ABLE TO CUT DOWN OUR, OUR DEBT AS WELL. SO THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 10TH. ORDINANCE YOU FIRST READING INTRODUCTION TO ADOPT AN ANNUAL 
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OPERATING BUDGET FOR 2026. ADMINISTRATION. SAME AS BEFORE. NOTHING FURTHER. COUNCIL. I WILL ECHO CHIEF BROOKS. OKAY, THIS WOULD BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON 
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NOVEMBER 10TH. ORDINANCE V FIRST READING INTRODUCTION TO ADOPT AN ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR 2026 ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING FURTHER. COUNCIL. SANDY I THINK THAT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CONVERSATION LATER ON, MAYBE THIS WEEK, NEXT WEEK REGARDING THE. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AM I ON W I'M ON W I'M SORRY. THIS IS STILL BASICALLY THE TWO ORDINANCES THIS ORDINANCE B AND THE PREVIOUS ONE, THEY'RE VERY, VERY SIMILAR. BUT OUR CHARTER AND THEN WHAT THE STATE REQUIRES THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS. SO THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR. SO WE HAVE TO DO BOTH. WE HAVE TO DO AN APPROPRIATED ONE AND AN OPERATING. ORDINANCE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE THEM. THEY LOOK PRETTY COOL. THANK YOU. HEARING NONE THIS BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 10TH. ORDINANCE W FIRST READING 
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INTRODUCTION TO AMEND ORDINANCE 12 2025. ANNUAL COMPENSATION FOR ALL CITY EMPLOYEES 2026. 
          ADMINISTRATION. NOTHING FURTHER. COUNCIL. I THINK THIS IS THE ONE THAT I MEANT TO SAY WE WERE GOING TO MEET TO DISCUSS FURTHER WHEN BRAD GETS. YEAH. YEP. YEP. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          ANYBODY ELSE THIS BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 10TH. COMMENTS FROM 
          [COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL PERSONS AND GENERAL DISCUSSION]
CITY MANAGER. SO I DON'T GET THIS OPPORTUNITY VERY OFTEN. SO I'M GOING TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF IT TONIGHT. I WANT TO JUST REFRESH COUNCIL ON THURSDAY ABOUT 1130. WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT HAZMAT CRASH OUT ON US 33, SOMETHING WORSE THAN ANYTHING I'VE SEEN IN MY 25 YEARS. AS FAR AS THE IMPACT TO TRAFFIC, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DO IS TO RECOGNIZE NOT ONLY MY FOLKS WHO JUMPED IN, HANDLED THE CRASH, HANDLED THE AFTERMATH OF TRYING TO CLOSE DOWN RAMPS AND GET TRAFFIC DIVERTED TO MY COMMAND STAFF, TO MY DETECTIVES WHO THREW UNIFORMS ON AND WENT OUT AND HANDLED CALLS. BECAUSE EVEN IN THE MIDST OF ALL THAT, PEOPLE STILL NEEDED TO BE SERVED. MARYSVILLE FIRE WAS THERE AS THEIR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS. AND WHAT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TAUGHT IS YOU STAY BEHIND THE FIREFIGHTERS AND YOU'LL BE FINE. SO THAT'S THAT WAS THAT WAS FROM MY DAYS OF OF THE ACADEMY. DON'T GET IN FRONT OF THEM. YOU STAY BEHIND THEM. SO BUT THEY DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB OUT THERE DEALING WITH THE CRASH, DEALING WITH WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW AT THE TIME. WE ALSO HAD. AND I'D BE REMISS, MARYSVILLE STREETS. I KNOW JEREMY'S NOT HERE, BUT OUR STREET DEPARTMENT DROPPED EVERYTHING THAT THEY WERE DOING, GRABBED CONES, GRABBED WHATEVER THEY NEEDED TO HELP US BARRICADE OFF EXIT RAMPS TO TO KEEP THE AREA SAFE FOR ALL OF US WHO WERE OUT THERE. I CAN'T THANK THOSE GUYS ENOUGH FOR FOR WHAT THEY DID THAT DAY. SOME OF OUR OTHER PARTNERS, UNION COUNTY EMA, UNION COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, ODOT, OHIO EPA, THE OHIO STATE HIGHWAY PATROL, PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION OF OHIO, AND HOGAN'S TIRE SERVICE AND TOWING, WHO ACTUALLY HANDLED THE HAZMAT CLEANUP AND THE TOWING OF TWO COMMERCIAL VEHICLES OUT OF THERE. IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS COMMUNITY PULLS TOGETHER, USES WHAT RESOURCES WE HAVE, AND CALLS IN OTHER RESOURCES AS WE NEED THEM TO TO MAKE THAT TURN OUT TO BE A SUCCESSFUL EVENT. 11 HOURS IS A LONG TIME FOR THE ROAD TO BE CLOSED, BUT I THINK CHIEF BURNS 
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CAN SPEAK TO THIS. IT WAS STILL MUCH SHORTER THAN WHAT WE ANTICIPATED AT ONE POINT IN TIME, SO THE TEAM WORK THAT EVERYBODY DID THAT DAY REALLY HELPED. SO I JUST WANTED TO TO INFORM COUNCIL AND TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TO RECOGNIZE THOSE FOLKS. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT, YOU KNOW. YEAH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW AND AND TIMES OF STRESS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE HIGH LEVELS OF ANXIETY AND ANGER AND, YOU KNOW, AND SOMETIMES SOCIAL MEDIA RUNS WILD, AS WE ALL KNOW. BUT, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, SOMETIMES THINGS ARE JUST OUT OF OUR CONTROL. AND, YOU KNOW, FIFTH STREET WAS OPENED AND THERE WAS NO REAL THERE WAS NO ACCIDENTS. I MEAN, I DID SAY I SAW MORE SEMIS IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE THAN I EVER HAVE IN MY LIFE. BUT ALSO IT'S IT'S AMAZING TO SEE HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS ON US 33 EVERY DAY THAT WE DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT, AND HOW IF US 33 WASN'T BUILT, HOW CROWDED OUR CITY WOULD BE. AND SO YEAH, I MEAN, HATS OFF TO EVERYBODY AND WHO WHO MADE IT POSSIBLE. AND THEN ALSO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS DOING THE BEST WE CAN. AND SOMETIMES IN TODAY'S WORLD, PATIENCE GOES A LONG WAYS. SO WE'LL START WITH MR. BORDNER. 
          YEAH. SO HOPEFULLY BE QUICK. JUST A REMINDER, WHICH I LEARNED TODAY, THAT MANY COMMUNITIES STARTED TRICK OR TREAT LIKE LAST WEEK. SO IT'S GETTING DARKER EARLIER. KIDS WILL BE OUT WALKING. I KNOW THAT DUBLIN AND SOME OF THE COLUMBUS AREA HAVE THEIR TRICK OR TREAT ON THURSDAY NIGHT. MARYSVILLE IS OBVIOUSLY FRIDAY NIGHT, SO JUST BE CONSCIOUS OF THAT WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. SLOW DOWN, KEEP AN EYE OUT BECAUSE KIDS ARE GOING TO BE KIDS AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING ACROSS THE STREET NOT LOOKING. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE LOOKING FOR THEM. REMINDER I BELIEVE IT'S SUNDAY. WE FALL BACK. FINALLY. I THINK NOVEMBER 2ND. SO EXCITED TO GET A LITTLE EXTRA HOUR OF SLEEP. MAYBE. OR MAYBE. DO YOU LOSE IT I DON'T REMEMBER. SORRY. YOU LOSE IT. YOU DO LOSE IT, DON'T YOU? YEAH. 
          ANYWAY, GAIN IT ANYWAY. YOU GAIN IT, YOU LOSE IT. YOU GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT. IT'S A LONG NIGHT. AND THEN. AND THEN I JUST WANT TO THANK, YOU KNOW, STAFF AND EVERYONE WHO WAS INVOLVED IN ALL OF THE ZONING AMENDMENTS THAT WE SAW TONIGHT. I WANTED TO THANK PRESIDENT BERGER AND VICE PRESIDENT HUNTER FOR THEIR TIME SERVED, I KNOW THAT YOU'VE SPENT COUNTLESS AMOUNTS OF HOURS IN MEETINGS NEGOTIATING, DISCUSSING DIFFERENT ZONING CHANGES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WELL INTENDED. ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT WE SAW THIS EVENING, YOU KNOW, ARE INTENDED TO REALLY BENEFIT OR DO GOOD FOR THE, THE, THE BROADER COMMUNITY. AND ADDITIONALLY, THEY'RE LINED WITH, YOU KNOW, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE THAT DURING SECOND READING, ALIGNED MORE SO THAN EVER WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AND OUR VISIONING PLAN. AND THEN ULTIMATELY, MOST IMPORTANTLY, WITH WHAT THE THE GENERAL CONSENSUS FROM THE RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE LAST 12, 18 MONTHS OF SURVEYS AND MEETINGS HAS BEEN. SO I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S SUPPORT GOING THROUGH THROUGH THIS ACTIVITY AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT'S TO COME IN THE FUTURE. THANKS EVERYONE. I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT EARLY VOTING IS CURRENTLY GOING ON, AND WE HAVE THE REST OF THIS WEEK AND THE WEEKEND, AND THEN OUR ELECTION DAY IS NEXT TUESDAY. AND JUST WANTED TO WISH THE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL TEAM GOOD LUCK AS THEY'RE GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS TO PLAY SPRINGFIELD ON FRIDAY. THANK YOU. AND I'D LIKE TO ECHO YOUR COMMENTS THOUGHTS. THE STAFF, ESPECIALLY WHEN 33 WAS CLOSED, IT IT OPENED UP A LOT OF EYES FROM PEOPLE THAT DON'T,SAID, DOS PER DAY DEFINITELY DOES WREAK HAVOC WHEN IT HAS TO COME THROUGH MARYSVILLE. SO. CHIEF AND CHIEF AND CHIEF. YEAH, JOB WELL DONE. AND THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL THE EFFORT THAT EVERYBODY PUT INTO IT. I'LL JUMP. I'LL JUMP DOWN TO MISS KRAMER. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO REITERATE SOME OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE ZONING WORKING GROUP, BUT KIND OF POINT OUT THE THE DIVERSITY 
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THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS. AND I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN HUNTER KIND OF BRINGING TO OUR ATTENTION SOME OF THE BACKGROUND AND EXPERTISE THAT WENT INTO THAT PROCESS. SO WE SEE MAYBE SOME SIMPLE WORDING OF THERE, BUT ALL THE THOUGHT WHY IT WAS DONE, WHY IT WASN'T DONE, THINKING ABOUT ASPECTS OF FEASIBILITY OF ENFORCEMENT, MAINTENANCE, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE I THINK THAT GIVES US A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS. AND THE THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO THAT, AGAIN, GRATEFUL FOR OUR EMERGENCY RESPONDERS, NOT ONLY FOR THURSDAY, BUT A LOT OF TOUGH SITUATIONS. SORRY, MY MICROPHONE THAT HAVE BEEN COMING UP AND I THINK JUST HATS OFF FOR THAT KIND OF QUICK THINKING. I THINK AS WE GO THROUGH THIS BUDGET PROCESS TO KIND OF RE REITERATING THE IMPORTANCE OF EQUIPMENT TRAINING, NEVER KNOWING WHAT KIND OF SITUATIONS ARE ARE GOING TO COME UP. SO JUST MY HATS OFF TO YOU AND SUPER, SUPER PROUD OF EVERYBODY WHO WENT INTO THAT THAT EFFORT. AND AS WE'RE ENDING FALL, I KNOW FROM A SCHOOL PERSPECTIVE THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, APPROACHING PLAYOFFS, STATE FINALS FOR SOME SPORTS, MARCHING BAND, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SUPER PROUD OF ALL THE HARD WORK THAT OUR KIDS HAVE PUT INTO THIS. AND BEST OF LUCK AS THEY WRAP UP THEIR SEASONS. MR. REAMS, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WALKING LATELY AND TALKING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, AS I'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, LIKE YESTERDAY, I RAN INTO A GUY WHO WAS WORKING ON RESTORING HIS CAR, AND I ACTUALLY REMEMBERED HIM WORKING ON RESTORING THAT CAR FOUR YEARS AGO. SO IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE PROGRESS HE'S MADE. I WILL SAY HE STILL HAS SOME WORK TO DO. SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE THAT AGAIN. ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS I HAVEN'T BEEN BIT BY A DOG YET, SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT. BUT I YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IN OTHER THAN JUST TALKING WITH PEOPLE, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I REALLY ENJOY IS LIKE THIS TIME OF YEAR, IT'S LIKE REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE ALL THE PASSION AND CREATIVITY THAT SOME PEOPLE REALLY PUT INTO DECORATING THEIR YARDS AND THEIR HOMES, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AT THIS TIME OF YEAR. SO THAT'S JUST REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE, A LOT OF FUN. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, MR. HUNTER. YEAH. 
          JUST ECHO SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE, THE, THE ORDINANCES THAT WE HAD HEARD FIRST READING TONIGHT. APPRECIATE ALL OF THE CITY STAFF CONTRIBUTION, OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS CONTRIBUTION. MR. GREENE WITH CLARION, I WOULD SAY WHEN YOU PUT TEN PEOPLE IN A ROOM, THERE'S TEN DIFFERENT OPINIONS. HAVING SOMEONE WITH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, A TAILORED EXPERTISE TO REAL DISCUSSION AND UNDERSTAND, ASSESS, UNDERSTAND PRIORITIES, MOVE THINGS FORWARD. 
          IT WAS, YOU KNOW, A GOOD THING THAT HAD HAPPENED INTO A YEAR'S, I THINK NOT NOT QUITE A YEAR, BUT ALMOST A YEAR'S WORTH OF MEETINGS. SO VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. GENTLEMAN HAS A HIGH LEVEL OF EXPERTISE IN HIS FIELD OF WORK. SO DELIGHTED TO SEE THESE THINGS MOVE FORWARD THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. AND AGAIN, PUBLIC COMMENT THE NEXT GO AROUND, I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE A RESIDENT WE HAVE OUT IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT, MRS. PALMISANO, AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH MRS. PALMISANO. SHE'S WORKING ON A CONTINUING EDUCATION CREDITS, AND PART OF THAT IS TO ATTEND A PUBLIC MEETING. AND I HAD SAID, YEAH, COME TO THIS MONDAY'S NIGHT'S MEETING AND HERE WE ARE. OUR ORDINANCES ARE ALMOST THE LETTERS OF THE ALPHABET. MY APOLOGIES. DON'T HOLD THAT AGAINST ME. BUT CONTINUING EDUCATION AND JUST WORKING IN THE FIELD OF EDUCATION IS A GREAT THING. AND HAVING TO DO THAT TO MAINTAIN YOUR CERTIFICATIONS AND ALL OF THAT, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING I DON'T ENVY. BUT I'VE FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER, I'VE, YOU KNOW, PURSUED SOME CONTINUED EDUCATION IN MY ADULT LIFE. AND IT'S A CHALLENGE TO BALANCE EVERYTHING. SO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AND HOPEFULLY TONIGHT WAS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR YOU. BE SAFE ON TRICK OR TREAT EVENING AND JUST THE ABOUT THE CITY CONTRIBUTION, THE REGIONAL CONTRIBUTION, THE THE THE PRIVATE SECTOR WORK THAT WAS DONE TO RELIEVE THE SITUATION THAT WE HAD HAD THE OTHER DAY. 
          IT COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT WORSE. AND IT WASN'T. SO EVEN THOUGH IT WAS BAD, IT COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT WORSE. SO VERY APPRECIATIVE OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS DONE, ALL OF THE RESOURCES THAT HAD COME TOGETHER TO MAKE IT NOT BE AS BAD AS IT COULD HAVE BEEN. SO WITH THAT, I 
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CLOSE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. I WOULD HAVE RECOMMENDED WORKING SESSION. WHAT? WHAT? I DON'T KNOW WHERE I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. SO BUT I WANT I WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY HALLOWEEN. AND YOU KNOW, HALLOWEEN IS I FEEL LIKE MAYBE I FEEL LIKE IT'S GROWING IN POPULARITY. BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T TRICK OR TREAT ANYMORE. 
          BUT I DO GO TO MY FRIEND'S HOUSE AND PASS OUT CANDY. BUT I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST BE CAREFUL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS ARE OUT. IT IS DARK, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, NOW AND 20 YEARS AGO, THERE'S SO MUCH MORE DISTRACTED DRIVING THAN THAN THERE HAS BEEN WITH TEXTING AND AUDIO PLAY AND JUST EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON. YOU JUST BE MINDFUL OF OF WHAT'S AROUND YOU. AND AGAIN, GRACE AND PATIENCE. THE WORLD COULD COULD DO A LOT WITH GRACE AND PATIENCE. YOU KNOW, THE THE THING ABOUT THE ZONING GROUP, AND I KNOW WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD WHAT THE VOTER WAS SAYING, WHETHER OR NOT THEY AGREE WITH US OR, OR, OR EVEN UNDERSTAND THE LEVEL OF INTEGRITY WE'RE TAKING TO HEAR THEIR VOICE AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE ATTENDING TO MEETINGS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, HOW, HOW WE'RE DOING. AND ANY TIME THERE'S AN ELECTION YEAR, YOU KNOW, SADLY, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN TO GET ELECTED. AND, YOU KNOW, AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS HAD AN OPPONENT RUN AGAINST ME AND AS MY, YOU KNOW, COLLEAGUES EVENTUALLY WILL PROBABLY HAVE THAT, HAVE THAT HAPPEN, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IT DOES FEEL DIFFERENT, BUT I WANT TO JUST ENSURE THAT WHEN WE WERE ELECTED, I STATED THAT RAPID, UNSUSTAINABLE HOUSING WAS NO LONGER GOING TO BE THE INCOME GROWTH OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. AND I MADE THAT VERY CLEAR. AND FOR A LONG TIME WE HAVE CREATED, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, DIFFERENT DESIGNS, WHAT THE MARYSVILLE COULD LOOK LIKE. AND WHEN IT CAME TO SOMETIMES ZONING, DUE TO THE POLITICAL NATURE, DUE TO WHATEVER IT WAS, WE DIDN'T ALWAYS LIVE TO OUR FULL POTENTIAL. AND THIS TIME AROUND, YOU'RE YOU'RE SEEING A COUNCIL THAT IS NOT ONLY LISTENING TO THE VOTER AND EXECUTING WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO WITH PROTECTING MARYSVILLE IDENTITY MASTER PLANNING, PRESERVATION, ALL THOSE ALL THOSE INITIATIVES WITH EDITOR. BUT WE HAVE A COUNCIL NOW THAT IS PUTTING THIS IN CODE. AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT SAY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TERRIBLE, LIKE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN DONE BEFORE. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ARE COMMITTED TO DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO, WHICH IS NOT ALLOWING UNSUSTAINABLE, RAPID HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS TO BE THE MECHANISM FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. AND WE'RE GOING TO CAMPAIGN ON THAT, AND WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THAT, BECAUSE MARYSVILLE'S BETTER THAN THAT. SHE DESERVES BETTER THAN THAT, AND WE DESERVE BETTER THAN THAT. SO WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON ECONOMIC GROWTH. WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON DESIGN STANDARDS. WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON HOUSING THAT BUILDS COMMUNITY, THAT SUPPORTS OUR SCHOOLS, IT SUPPORTS OUR PARKS. IT SUPPORTS OUR CITY STAFF TO ENSURE WE HAVE THE MONEY AND THE FUTURE TO NOT GO AFTER THE TAXPAYER IF WE DON'T HAVE TO. NOW, IF WASHINGTON BANKRUPTS ALL OF US, THAT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT STORY. BUT ANYWAY, IN SAYING THAT, I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS A GOOD NIGHT AND THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN
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