Feb 09, 2026 City Council

[CALL TO ORDER]

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COUNCIL MEETING. IT IS FEBRUARY 9TH, 2026. THE TIME IS 7 P.M. AND I'M GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. PLEASE NOTE THAT THE JANUARY 26TH COUNCIL MEETING WAS CANCELED DUE TO INCLEMENT WEATHER. LEGISLATION WAS CARRIED FORWARD TO THIS MEETING. APPOINTMENTS THAT HAD BEEN SCHEDULED FOR THAT JANUARY 26TH MEETING HAD OCCURRED DURING THE FEBRUARY 2ND WORK SESSION. WE ARE GOING TO START THIS EVENING BY STANDING SAYING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, AND PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALMIGHTY GOD, WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND ITS CITIZENS. AMEN. ROLL CALL. ZACH BORDNER HERE, STEVEN WOLF HERE, DONALD BERGER, SCOTT HUNTER HERE. KELSEY TACTIC HERE, MARK REAMS, CATHY YOUNG HERE. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS THE

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MEETING MINUTES I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MR. PRESIDENT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. JANUARY 5TH, 2026 CITY WORK SESSION. CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION. MEETING MINUTES.

SORRY. TONGUE TWISTER. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THE JANUARY 5TH, 2026 MEETING. WORK SESSION MINUTES ARE APPROVED. NEXT IS THE JANUARY 12TH, 2026 CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES. HAS ANYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW ANY REVISIONS? IF NO, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE JANUARY 12TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE AYE. ALL

[ ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]

ANNABELLE IS AT MIDDLE SCHOOL. ADRIANA IS AT THE MARYSVILLE HIGH SCHOOL. THEY'RE ALL COMING BACK FROM FLORIDA TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY WERE IN DISNEY WORLD FOR THE CHEER COMPETITION, SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE THEM TONIGHT. BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR JOE? ANYBODY HAS MISS MISTER PRESIDENT. YEAH. GO AHEAD. FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WEARING GREEN THIS EVENING. SO YOU GET A BROWNIE POINT. ALSO BECAUSE YOUR BACKGROUND'S IN COMMUNICATION, I THINK I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR ALL OF COUNCIL, BUT I KNOW FOR MYSELF AND OTHERS WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO SEE, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION AND PROACTIVE INFORMATION. SOME KEY FOCUSES, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE HIGHLIGHTING ALL CITY STAFF MEMBERS WITH ONE MINUTE VIDEOS TELLING, TELLING EVERYBODY WHAT THEY DO AND AND WHO THEY ARE. I THINK A LOT OF MEMBERS IN THE COMMUNITY DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WHO ARE WITHIN THIS BUILDING AND WHAT THEY DO ON THE BEHALF OF THEIR BENEFIT. THE OTHER THING IS, MOST OF US FOLLOW OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES FROM OTHER CITY, OTHER CITY CITY WEBSITES.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COMMUNITIES ARE DOING NOW WHERE THEY ARE CREATING DURING THE SUMMER SEASONS, IT'S ONE SATURDAY, A MONTH WHERE THEY ARE THE DIRECTOR. THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE COMING OUT TO NEIGHBORHOODS. SO FOR INSTANCE, THERE'LL BE A FIRE TRUCK OR POLICE OFFICER AND THEY HAVE THE FIRE AND THEY GET THE KIDS OUT, AND THEN ALL THE

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SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I DIDN'T WANT TO STEAL THE PRESIDENT'S THUNDER, BUT THOSE ARE JUST SOME THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING. GREAT. MR. ROSEN. YEAH.

GO AHEAD. JOE, I JUST WANT TO SAY WELCOME. I KNOW JOE FOR MANY YEARS AGO, AND I KNOW THAT HE WILL BRING A, YOU KNOW, GOOD LIGHT TO THIS CITY. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IN A TIME WHEN WE HAVE A LOT HAPPENING IN MARYSVILLE AND A LOT OF CHANGE AND A LOT OF GROWTH HAPPENING, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP OUR CITIZENS VERY INFORMED. AND I KNOW THAT YOU'LL BRING THAT TO THE TABLE. AND WITH A LOT OF MISINFORMATION ABOUT SOME OF THE PROJECTS AND THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, I HOPE E CAN KEEP CLEAR, TRANSPARENT COMMUNICATION HAPPENING TO OUR CITIZENS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THEY FIND THAT REALLY IMPORTANT AND THEY COULD LEARN A LOT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. SO ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS. I'M JUST GONNA SAY NO PRESSURE. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING YOU. WITH THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT I WORKED WITH PREVIOUS COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR ON DIDN'T QUITE COME TO FRUITION. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN REGROUP AND AND WORK ON EXECUTING SOME OF THOSE PENDING TASKS. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

YEP. DID YOU EXPECT TO GET YOUR MARCHING ORDERS HERE? THE INTRODUCTION TAKING NOTES RIGHT NOW. ONE MINUTE VIDEOS. WELCOME TO THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. THE NEXT INDIVIDUAL IS SOMEONE I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW AND YOU KNOW PRETTY WELL. I'D LIKE TO ASK CHAD CLARIDGE TO COME FORWARD. CHAD HAS JUST BEEN RECENTLY IN WHICH YOU RATIFIED LAST MONDAY IS OUR NEW PARKS AND RECREATION SUPERINTENDENT.

CHAD'S BEEN AN EXCEPTIONAL EMPLOYEE FOR THE CITY AND OBVIOUSLY CAME THROUGH VERY WELL IN THIS PROCESS. SO, CHAD, JUST BRIEFLY TELL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF. I THINK THEY PROBABLY MOSTLY KNOW YOU MAYBE HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN HERE, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. YEAH, I THINK PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY KNOWS ME AROUND HERE. BUT I GREW UP RIGHT OUTSIDE OF MARYSVILLE, UP TOWARD RAYMOND. MY WIFE AND I STILL LIVE. WE ACTUALLY LIVED IN MARYSVILLE PROPER FOR 25 YEARS, AND WE JUST BUILT A HOUSE OUT ON THE FAMILY FARM. I HAVE TWO KIDS. BOTH WENT TO MARYSVILLE, COLE'S AT MIAMI AND THE ARMY ROTC PROGRAM, AND KATE'S AT MARYSVILLE HIGH SCHOOL. SO THIS HAS BEEN, I THINK FEBRUARY 2ND WAS TEN YEARS WITH THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE FOR ME. SO REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY. I LOVE WORKING FOR MARYSVILLE, WORKING FOR MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND EVERYTHING. SO THANK YOU AGAIN. ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHAD OR ANY ANY COMMENTS? I'LL JUST SAY I WAS GLAD TO SEE WHEN YOUR NAME POPPED UP ON THE ON THE LIST THERE TO, YOU KNOW, GET APPROVED AS PARKS AND REC SUPERINTENDENT. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU FOR CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. YES, WE GOT TO MEET EACH OTHER, I THINK, AT THE BIKE TRACK AND YEAH, LOOK, I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE FUTURE. I GUESS I LEFT THAT I RUN THE BMX TRACK WITH MY WIFE. SO THAT'S WHAT MOST PEOPLE KNOW ME FOR. BUT YEAH, IF, IF I MAY, REAL QUICK. THE ONLY THE ONLY THING THAT I WILL SAY IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE FAMILIAR FACES. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU. THANKS. THANKS, CHAD.

APPRECIATE IT. AND THANK YOU FOR FOR MAKING THOSE RATIFICATIONS LAST WEEK. TWO THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO DO BEFORE I PASS IT DOWN TO MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS.

JUST A REMINDER THAT NEXT MONDAY IS PRESIDENTS DAY. CITY HALL WILL BE CLOSED ON MONDAY IN OBSERVANCE OF OF PRESIDENTS DAY. THE LAST THING THEN FOR ME THIS EVENING IS TO REMIND YOU, INFORM YOU AGAIN THAT THE 2026 STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS IS COMING UP ON MONDAY, MARCH 2ND AT HONDA MARYSVILLE. IT'S A COMMUNITY RECEPTION WILL TAKE PLACE FROM 5 TO 6 P.M. AND THE STATE OF THE CITY WILL TAKE PLACE FROM 6 TO 7 P.M. AND THERE WILL BE SOME REFRESHMENTS THERE AS WELL. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO A COUPLE OF THE INTERVIEWS THAT WILL TAKE PLACE DURING THE COURSE OF THE STATE OF THE CITY, TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING HERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND OF COURSE, WITH THE THE THE ADDITION OF THE ACURA DEALERSHIP AT HONDA MARYSVILLE, THAT'S A BIG ADDITION FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO JUST A REMINDER FOR THAT. AND

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THANKS, TERRY. CITY STREET CREWS ARE PERFORMING PLOW MAINTENANCE AFTER THE PAST LARGE SNOW EVENT AND ADDRESSING POTHOLES CITYWIDE. CURRENT WINTER OPERATIONS HAVE SEEN A SIGNIFICANT SPIKE IN OUR RESOURCE ALLOCATION. SO RIGHT NOW, WHEN COMPARED TO THE AVERAGES FROM THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE USED APPROXIMATELY TWICE THE AMOUNT OF SALT IN ABOUT TWO AND A HALF TIMES THE AMOUNT OF LABOR HOURS PARKS HAS, CHEN CAN ATTEST. THEY CONTINUE WITH SNOW REMOVAL EFFORTS AS WELL, AND ARE PERFORMING STAGE PICKUP AT THE FAIRGROUNDS ON THE WATER SIDE. LAST NIGHT THEY ADDRESSED A WATER MAIN BREAK ON 10TH STREET AND CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE NORTH CONNELLY STREET WATER LINE REPLACEMENT PROJECT AS THE WEATHER PERMITS, AND THE AVERAGE WATER PRODUCED AT THE TREATMENT PLANT WAS 3.17 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. FOR THE PAST THREE MONTHS, WE'VE BEEN RIGHT AROUND THREE. SO NOTHING NOTHING CRAZY AS IT RELATES TO THAT. AND THEN ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, OUR LINING CONTRACTOR HAS BEGUN THE CLEANING AND ROOT REMOVAL PORTION THAT HAS TO OCCUR BEFORE THE LINING PROJECT OCCURS. AND THAT IS THAT PROJECT IS LOCATED BETWEEN WEST SIXTH AND WEST SEVENTH STREETS.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT OVER TO KYLE FOR SOME UPDATES ON CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. THANKS, JEREMY. THE ONLY UPDATE WE HAVE IN ENGINEERING IS FOR THE CHERRY STREET SANITARY IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. SO OUR CONTRACTOR IS BACK IN TOWN. THEY CONTINUE INSTALLING SANITARY ALONG CHERRY STREET THIS WEEK. LOOKING AT THE WEATHER FORECAST, IT LOOKS GOOD FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, SO HOPEFULLY THEY CAN MAKE SOME GOOD PROGRESS. THAT CONCLUDES OUR ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY COMMENTS QUESTIONS MR. BOEHNER? MR. PRESIDENT, IF I MAY, I WANT TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY. THERE'S NOT OFTEN DO WE GET POSITIVE FEEDBACK. BUT I DID RECEIVE A LOT OF VERBAL. BUT I DID WANT TO SHARE A TEXT MESSAGE I RECEIVED. I SHARED IT ALONG TO CITY MANAGER EMERY, BUT WANTED TO PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE MR. HOYT AND THE TEAM PUBLIC PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE TEAM FOR GETTING OUT AND JUST THE ROAD CREWS VERBATIM. I'LL READ WAS JUST OUT AND ABOUT THE CITY AND THIS IS ON JANUARY 27TH. SO LIKE THE NEXT DAY AFTER WE'RE LEVEL THREE WAS JUST OUT AND ABOUT. THE CITY CREWS DID A GREAT JOB ON THE ROADS. BE PROUD GLENN MURGATROYD. SO JUST WANTED TO RELAY THAT THAT THAT MESSAGE TO TO STAFF AND JUST KNOW THAT YOUR WORK DOESN'T GO UNNOTICED. AND WE DO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL DO. SO THANK YOU. I'LL SECOND THAT AS WEL WELL. I HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE REACH OUT ON FACEBOOK AND IN PERSON, JUST ON THE WORK THAT WAS DONE, IN THE KIND OF SPEED THAT WENT THROUGH TO TO GET ALL THAT CLEANED OUT, AND EVEN IN THE PARKS AND THE DOG PARK AND THE TRAILS THERE WERE PLOWED AND PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO USE THEM THROUGHOUT THE WEEK AS IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE GETTING OUTSIDE EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NEGATIVE FIVE DEGREES. I ALREADY STATED MY COMMENTS DURING PUBLIC SERVICE, PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT I, I DO THIS. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS EXERCISE GROUP. WE'LL MEET IN A PARKING LOT AT SOME CITY PARK, RANDOM SPOTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, USUALLY 5 A.M. OR SO, AND WE ATTENDED ONE OF THE TIMES A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, AND ONE OF THE CITY GUYS PLOWING HAD STOPPED THERE TO USE THE RESTROOM, AND I DIDN'T TELL HIM I WAS ON COUNCIL OR ANYTHING, BUT WE GAVE HIM A CUP OF COFFEE. THAT'S WHAT WE DO WHEN WE FINISH UP. BUT HE WAS VERY APPRECIATIVE AND HE'D BEEN OUT ALL NIGHT, SO HE NEEDED IT. SO APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT YOU GUYS PUT INTO THAT AND THE EXTRA HOURS. I KNOW IT TAKES A TOLL PHYSICALLY TO JUST TO TO BE UP ALL NIGHT. SO APPRECIATE THAT. BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT ITEM, I DID WANT TO SAY, FOR THOSE WHO ARE HERE TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR YOUR APPOINTMENTS, YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO STAY, BUT YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO ALSO GO.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DEPART EARLY, IT'S UP TO YOU. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TONIGHT. APPRECIATE IT. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. WE WILL WE WILL GO ON TO THE REPORT OF THE

[REPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT]

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[PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION REPORT]

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OKAY. ROLL CALL PLEASE, MR. BERGER. YES, MR. HUNTER? YES. MRS. TECH? YES. MR. REAMES. YES.

MRS. YOUNG. YES. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLF. YES. SEVEN. YES. MOTION PASSES. OKAY. THIS LEGISLATION NOW, AS AMENDED, IS BACK TO SECOND READING, PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC? OKAY. HEARING NONE. NOW, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO WAIVE THE THIRD READING. MR. MOTION TO WAIVE THE THIRD READING. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE THIRD READING. ROLL CALL, PLEASE, MR. HUNTER. YES. MRS. TECH? YES. MR. REAMES YES. MRS. YOUNG YES. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLFF. YES. MR. BERGER YES. SEVEN. YES.

MOTION PASSES. OKAY. NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION AS AMENDED. MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS LEGISLATION. OKAY. WE HAVE A

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AND SO THEY'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH US AND JUST ASK IF WE COULD WAIVE THIRD READING AND PASS THE LEGISLATION, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANT TO DO CITIZENS, CITIZENS, ANY CITIZENS WISH TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. COUNCIL. MR. BORDNER YEAH, I BELIEVE THIS IS JUST AN ACQUISITION. SAME TERMS AND CONDITIONS TRANSFER TO THE NEW OWNER. SO I DON'T REALLY SEE MUCH OF A OF AN ISSUE WITH THE THE WAVING IN MY OPINION. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. QUESTIONS.

SO FROM A PROCEDURE VIEWPOINT MOTION TO WAIVE THE THIRD READING WOULD BE REQUIRED. AND THEN A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MOVE.

THIRD READING. MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THIRD READING. OKAY. ROLL CALL MR. REAMES YES. MRS. YOUNG YES. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLFF YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES.

MRS. YES. MOTION PASSES NEXT WOULD BE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. ROLL CALL. MRS. YOUNG. YES. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLFF YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MRS. TAKACS YES. MR. REAMS YES.

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WE HAVE A PRESENTATION AND WHO WILL BE OKAY. I'LL KICK IT OFF AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT. PERFECT, PERFECT. SO YEAH, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT, JUST A QUICK BACKGROUND ON THIS LEGISLATION. SO THIS IS TO AMEND THE COOK'S POINT PUD THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2008. AND THE APPLICANT CAME BEFORE US IN DECEMBER FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND I BELIEVE THEIR GOAL WAS TO ALIGN THEM WITH THE CURRENT ZONING CODE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, AND ALSO THE CURRENT MARKETPLACE FOR DEVELOPMENT, AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY GEARED MORE FOR KIND OF BIG BOX AND OFFICE SPACE, WHICH THAT CLIMATE HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT. SO THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL GOAL. PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THIS AMENDED PUD WITH SIX YESES AND ZERO NOS. SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT TO GIVE A PRESENTATION AND TALK THROUGH WHAT THE CHANGES THEY HOPE TO DO. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CHRIS WINKLE. I'M WITH WINKLE CIVIL ENGINEERING AND SURVEYING, LLC. DO YOU NEED ME TO GIVE THE ADDRESS OR NOT? YES,

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SO WE ARE HERE, AS KYLE HAD SAID, IS AS AS LOOKING TO REWRITE SOME OF THE ACTUALLY OF THE PUD THAT WAS DONE IN 2008. SOME OF IT WAS IS WE HAD COME BACK AND HAD DONE A MODIFICATION AND ADDED A A USE GOT A VARIANCE FOR USE IN THEREFORE THE CHILD CARE BACK IN THE ONE THAT'S GETTING BUILT THERE. KIDDY ACADEMY BACK LAST YEAR MIGHT HAVE BEEN 23, MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE END OF 23 OR 24 TO GET THAT ADDED AND BE ALLOWED, AS WE WERE DOING AND GOING THROUGH THAT, WE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE ME AND HELPING THE COOKS WITH THIS STUFF WAS NOTICING THE ZONING THAT WAS DONE BACK THEN. IT WAS HAD SOME REALLY ODD USES THAT WERE IN THERE, LIKE NO CHILD CARE USES AND SOME OTHER SOME OTHER USES IN THERE THAT WERE REALLY KIND OF RESTRICTIVE AND LIKE, WELL, WHY IT WAS ABOVE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE FOR YOUR, YOU KNOW, SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, WHICH IS SEEMS TO BE IN THAT AREA AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT AND WORKING WITH STAFF. I THINK THAT REPORT ENDED UP BEING LIKE, IT'S 122 PAGES OF HOW LONG THAT PUD WAS BACK THEN. SO THERE WAS A LOT OF REDUNDANCY IN THAT REPORT AT THE SAME POINT. SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS WE WORKED WITH STAFF FIRST AND WORKED WITH THEM ON ONE, CONDENSING IT, YOU KNOW, SO SOME OF IT WHAT YOU SEE IN THAT REPORT IN THE NEW ONE IS, IS WE TOOK A LOT OF EACH DIFFERENT SECTION, ENDED UP HAVING THEIR OWN LANDSCAPING CODE TO THEM AND EVERYTHING ALONG THAT LINE. SO WE'VE CONDENSED THAT ALL DOWN SO THAT IT'S ALL IN ONE SPOT. SO IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR STAFF TO REVIEW, YOU KNOW, AND EASIER FOR US. AND, YOU KNOW, OUR FUTURE TENANTS OR PROPERTY OWNERS THERE TO REVIEW AND ACTUALLY SEE, YOU KNOW, AND UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO WHILE WE WERE IN THERE, THAT'S WHAT WE LOOKED AT, AS KYLE HAD SAID, AND WHAT OUR ONE OF OUR THINGS WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CLIMATE HAS CHANGED AS WE'VE SEEN WITH THE PUD. YOU KNOW, THAT WAS 20, ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO NOW. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIKE 18 YEARS. AND YOU'VE SEEN HOW SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE HASN'T HAPPENED. SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS WE WANTED TO MODERNIZE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, AS YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU GUYS MODERNIZE YOUR CODE. SO WE SHOULD COME THROUGH HERE AND DO THAT. AND SO ONE OF THE MODERNIZATIONS THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THERE IS WE ARE QUOTING A LOT OF THINGS OF THE CODE IN THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT IS SIGNAGE IS STILL HAS SOME OF OURS IN THERE. BUT WE DO QUOTE SOME OF YOUR STUFF THAT WAS CHANGED IN YOUR SIGNAGE CODE THAT YOU HAD THAT WASN'T IN EXISTENCE BACK THEN. SOME OF THE SETBACKS, IF THE SETBACKS WERE CLOSE AND MATCHED WHAT YOU GUYS HAD IN YOUR CD, WE KEPT THAT IN THERE AND SAID, HEY, SEE THE CD FOR THAT CODE? AND, YOU KNOW, BUILDING HEIGHTS. AND JUST ON THAT STUFF THAT WAS REALLY JUST DUPLICATE IN THERE THAT REALISTICALLY IT FIT BETTER TO JUST GO WITH YOURS INSTEAD. SO THEN THAT WAY IT WAS EASIER FOR EVERYBODY TO READ. BUT THE BIG CHANGE WAS PROBABLY. YEAH. AND THE OTHER CHANGES WERE LIKE THE SIDEWALK WIDTHS, THE PATH WIDTHS AND EVERYTHING FOR YOUR MULTI USE. OURS WAS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOUR CODE WAS. SO WE WENT BACK AND REFERENCED YOURS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. SO THAT WAS THE CLEANUP PORTION. BUT THEN WE WENT IN AND LOOKED AT THE CD USES AND EVERYTHING ALONG THAT LINE. AND SO WE TOOK YOUR GUYS'S USES AND SAID OKAY, WHAT MAKES SENSE IN HERE FOR THE AREA? SO YOU KNOW, THERE IS WE HAVE A THROUGH WE HAVE AREAS OF A THROUGH E IN OUR DEVELOPMENT. AND SO THEY HAVE BEEN BROKEN DOWN INTO DIFFERENT SECTIONS HERE AND INTO THE DISTRICT. AND SO LIKE AREA A AND YEAH SHE'S STRUGGLING. SHE'S STRUGGLING WITH IT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE THE MAP OF IT. SO I WAS GOING TO HAVE HER BRING UP THE MAP SO I COULD JUST TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON ON THERE. SO AREA A IS IF EVERYBODY KNOWS WE HAVE THAT BIG HUGE POND OUT THERE, THAT IS IT. SO I'LL USE THAT AS A DIVIDING POINT. SO YOU CAN THINK ABOUT HOW THAT IS. SO AREA A WAS ORIGINALLY ASSIGNED TO BEING HIGHWAY HIGHWAY RETAILER HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IN THERE. AND SO IT REALLY DOESN'T FIT. YES IT MAKES SENSE. HEY NEXT TO 33 DO HIGHWAY. BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE THE POND REALLY DOESN'T. WHO IS GOING TO WHAT COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY USE IS GOING TO GO UP TO SCOTTS FARM, TURN THERE, GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THE LAKE IN ORDER, YOU KNOW, THE POND IN ORDER TO GET TO A COMMERCIAL SITE. IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WENT IN THERE AND REVISED THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO INCLUDE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THE THE TOWNSHIP. IT STILL HAS A LITTLE PIECE THERE WITH THOSE RESIDENTS IN THERE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. SO WE WERE TRYING TO SOFTEN IT A LITTLE BIT MORE BY ADDING A RESIDENTIAL USE INTO THERE, SO THAT WE COULD KIND OF TRY TO DO THAT. THERE IS PROBABLY JUST OVER AN ACRE, PROBABLY OR MORE.

WHEN WE DO A REAL SURVEY, WE'LL FIND OUT ON IT. BUT ABOUT AN ACRE OF THAT LAND BACK THERE IS ABOUT EIGHT, 19 ACRES BACK THERE, ABOUT AN ACRE PLUS OF IT. IT'S WETLANDS. SO AND IT RUNS KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE. SO EVEN IF WE WANTED TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL USE IN THERE IN THAT FOR THAT KIND OF, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR THEM TO WORK AROUND IT. AT LEAST IF WE ADDED IN SOME KIND OF RESIDENTIAL, WE COULD ACTUALLY WORK AROUND THE WETLANDS, PUT IT IN THE MIDDLE,

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IT WAS ONLY ALLOWED OFFICE BUILDINGS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF THERE. SO AGAIN ALLOWED A LITTLE BIT MORE MULTIFAMILY IN THERE WORKING WITH THEM. SO WE WITH SOME OF THOSE USES OF THE MULTIFAMILY, YOU KNOW, WE MADE SOME PERMITTED, BUT WE MADE SOME MULTI-STORY ONES AND THAT ONE, WE MADE THOSE AS CONDITIONAL USES. SO THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AGAIN SO THAT WE WOULD END UP HAVING TO WORK WITH THAT. AND WE DID THAT WORKING WITH STAFF AND THOSE.

SO WE PICKED SOME OF THOSE USES OUT AND SAID, HEY, OKAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, THE ONES THAT REALLY SHOULD COME BACK. AND THE CONDITIONAL USE AS WE GET TO GO BACK TO ZONING AND, AND EVERYTHING ALONG THAT LINE, THEN THERE'S A COUPLE B AREAS UP THERE THAT THE B AREA IS ACTUALLY B2 IS ACTUALLY RUNNING UP ALONG STATE ROUTE FOUR. SO THAT ONE WE LEFT AS COMMERCIAL USES, YOU KNOW, IN THERE AS JUST A STANDARD COMMERCIAL USES THAT WE HAVE EVERYWHERE ELSE IN, IN TOWN AND EVERYTHING ALONG THAT LINE. AND THEN WE HAVE C1 AND C2. C1 AND C2 ARE ACTUALLY THE SAME. AND THEY ARE REALISTICALLY THE USES THAT ARE SOUTH OF COOK'S POINT. SO IT'S THE OPEN FIELDS THAT YOU'RE SEEING NOW. SO AGAIN, ADDED IN THE SAME KIND OF USES THAT YOU HAVE IN, IN YOUR SD DISTRICTS THERE AND THOSE ONES THERE. SO IT ALLOW US TO HAVE THAT ABILITY THERE, THEN THE REST ARE REALLY THE D1. THE D2 IS ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED. E ALREADY HAS, YOU KNOW, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX UP THERE, THE THE COOK'S POINT APARTMENT COMPLEX THERE. AND SO WHAT WE ENDED UP DOING. SO I WAS CLEAR ON THAT ONE. SO WE ALREADY HAD RESTRICTIONS AND EVERYTHING FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT OF E FOR MULTIFAMILY. WE MADE SURE TO MAKE THAT A SECTION FOR US SO THAT EVEN IF YOU DO COME IN FOR A RESIDENTIAL OR MULTI USE, YOU HAD TO FOLLOW THOSE, YOU HAD TO FOLLOW THOSE SAME PARAMETERS FOR DESIGN AND EVERYTHING ALONG THAT LINE. SO THAT WAY IT WAS CONSISTENT AND THEY WERE A LITTLE BIT STRICTER THAN NORMAL.

SO WE ENDED UP LIKING LEAVING THAT IN. SO HERE WE GO. SO THIS MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER I FORGOT ABOUT B3. B3 IS THE LAKE IS THE POND B3. WHEN IT ENDS UP COMING THROUGH IT ENDS INCLUDING WE'LL HAVE TO BUILD. WHEN WE GET INTO THAT POINT, WE'LL HAVE TO BUILD A PATHWAY AND WE'LL PUT A WALKWAY AROUND IT AND AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND FOR THERE. SO YEAH, D1 IS THAT ABOUT TEN ACRES THERE. SO AGAIN JUST KEEPING IT COMMERCIAL. WE YOU KNOW MADE SURE TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE YOU KNOW LIKE IN, IN D1 WE PULLED OUT LIKE A HOTEL AND STUFF LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT FIT IN THE D1 AREA. IT FITS MORE BACK IN. IT FITS MORE BACK INTO B2 IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO IT, OR MAYBE THE C2 OR SOMETHING OFF THE MAIN STREET. SO WE TRIED TO THINK WHEN WE WERE REDUCING THE LIST AND MOVING THINGS AROUND, WE WERE TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE OUT ON THE OUT ON THE ROUTE FOR? AND WHAT DO YOU REALLY NOT WANT TO SEE OUT ON ROUTE FOUR? AND LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, SUB AREA D2, IT'S ALREADY FULLY DEVELOPED. IS THERE. SO SO IT REALLY ONLY YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THE, THE C1, C2, B1, B2 AND A1. SO NOW YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHERE A1 IS IN HERE. AND LIKE I'VE SAYING THAT THAT WETLANDS RUNS RIGHT STRAIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF IT THERE. SO YOU KNOW IT'D HAVE BEEN HARD TO DEVELOP THAT AS A BIG KIND OF COMMERCIAL ROUTE.

SO ROADS YOU'RE SEEING OUT THERE, OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE FROM THE ORIGINAL, YOU KNOW, ON THERE. WELL THEY GO EXACTLY LIKE THAT. THEY'LL GO SIMILAR MAYBE. I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY WORKED WITH KYLE ON ROAD A ROAD A WILL STAY THAT WAY. AND I KNOW FOR MARYSVILLE NORTH THERE WE ALREADY COORDINATED THAT ROAD COMING UP THROUGH THERE AT THE SAME TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT ENDED UP CONNECTING UP THERE TOO. SO WE'RE REALLY SUPER APPRECIATIVE OF PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE THEY TOOK THE TIME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A HEFTY TASK. AND I THINK WE SPENT PROBABLY PRETTY CLOSE TO TWO HOURS WHERE WE JUST STARTED GETTING ON TO IT. AND THEY SAID, ALL RIGHT, LET'S LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW. AND SO WE REALLY WORKED HARD WITH THEM AND, AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS STUFF THAT WE WANTED TO KEEP IN THERE AND STUFF. THEY SAID, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE IT IN THERE. SO WE TOOK IT OUT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, GAVE CONCESSIONS OF THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE BY THE END OF THE DAY OF THE WORK THAT PLANNING COMMISSION AND US PUT TOGETHER, ZONING COMMISSION, I SHOULD SAY, ZONING AND US PUT TOGETHER INTO WORKING THAT THROUGH AND MAKING SURE THAT WE CAME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WORKED FOR EVERYONE. OKAY, I WILL OPEN UP HERE TO COUNCIL THEN COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MR. WARDNER, I JUST I KNOW IT'S FIRST READING. SO THIS IS FEEDBACK TIME. ABSOLUTELY. I'M, I JUST PULLED IT UP ON MY PHONE JUST TO GET

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OKAY. I WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED. I WAS LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? YEAH. SO THAT'S.

YEAH. I PRESUME. AND THIS IS WHERE I'M AT A LITTLE BIT OF A DISADVANTAGE BECAUSE IN 2008, I WAS PROBABLY STILL IN COLLEGE. YEAH. SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE KIND OF AN OVERLAY ON WHAT THE CURRENT ZONING LAYOUT WOULD BE AND SIMILAR FASHION WITH ALL THE SUB AREAS. AND YEAH, WE DID NOT CHANGE ANY OUTLINE OF THE DISTRICTS AT ALL. OKAY. SO REALLY AFTER THE ORIGINAL, THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS CHANGED IS THE LITTLE THIS LITTLE AREA RIGHT THERE. OKAY. WE ADDED THAT ROAD IN OFF THE ORIGINAL THAT WAS NOT THERE IN THE BEGINNING. AND THAT KIND OF CAME FORGOING BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL WITH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX NEEDED MORE LAND. SO THEN THEY CAME OVER AND TOOK SOME OF THAT AND LEFT THAT LITTLE PIECE OUT OF WHAT THEY DID. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT LITTLE AREA IS, WHERE THAT KIDDY ACADEMY THAT I MENTIONED IS SITTING AT NOW. SO IT'S NOW IT'S ONLY IT'S A USAGE DISCUSSION, RIGHT? IT'S CONDITIONAL OR APPROVED USAGE. SO THEN MAYBE THAT'S MY QUESTION IS I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT CURRENT USES ARE VERSUS WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSED IS VERSUS WHAT STRAIGHT CITY ZONING WOULD LOOK LIKE AS WELL. I LIKE TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST WHAT I'M TRYING TO EVALUATE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEP, ABSOLUTELY I UNDERSTAND. HEY, COULD I HAVE A CHART THAT I CREATED THAT ACTUALLY DOES IT ALL? AND EVEN IF YOU JUST SEND IT TO US, I THINK EVERYBODY MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN OR MCKENZIE AND MCKENZIE COULD DISTRIBUTE IT ON THAT ONE. SO THAT WAS A STARTING. I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT'S OUR STARTING POINT, WHAT'S OUR ENDING POINT AND WHAT IS WHAT'S WHAT'S THE MIDDLE POINT. AND THAT WOULD HELP ME AS I.

EVALUATE THE PROPOSAL. AND I THINK THOSE CHANGES, I THINK I EVEN HAVE A COLOR CODED AS INTO WHAT WAS THERE AND WHAT WAS IN THE USE ONE. SO YOU COULD SEE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT THERE'S A LOT OF DUPLICATE IN THERE AT THE SAME POINT. YEAH, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SEE THAT SIDE BY SIDE. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. MR. PRESIDENT. YEAH I, I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED AT SOME OF THE PERMITTED USES THAT ARE IN HERE. I THE AMOUNT OF SPACES THAT ALLOW THE VEHICLE WASH FACILITY AS IT IS LISTED. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONTENTION ON DATA CENTERS AND THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT THEY USE. VEHICLE WASH FACILITIES ACTUALLY USE QUITE A FAIR AMOUNT, AND A LOT OF THEM DO NOT HAVE CAPACITY LIMITS ON THEM. AND SO I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE INCLUDED IN THE PERMITTED USES. AND I THINK AND I THINK THAT WAS AND THAT WAS ONE OF OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH ZONING AND EVERYTHING ON THAT. AND I THOUGHT, LET ME DOUBLE CHECK. I KNOW VEHICLE SALES AND BODY WORK AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. WE MADE SURE TO PUT AS A CONDITIONAL USE. SO THE VEHICLE WASH FACILITY IS LISTED AS A PERMITTED USE ON, I THINK, ALMOST ALL OF THEM I'M LOOKING AT. I'M JUST PULLING UP RIGHT NOW. B1 IT'S IN THEIR CONDITIONAL USES. IT IS ON A1, IT'S UNDER PERMITTED, B1 IT'S UNDER CONDITIONAL B2 SHOULD BE THE SAME. SO YEP, IT'S UNDER A CONDITIONAL USE. THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE PUT THAT UNDER THERE B3. OBVIOUSLY IT DOES NOT EXIST TO IT'S UNDER PERMITTED. YEP C2 IT IS. SO YEAH I MEAN WE CAN MAKE THOSE MODIFICATIONS TO AND SAY HEY MAKE THEM CONDITIONAL USE. YOU KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE NOT SUPER STRICT ON HEY, IT'S GOT TO BE HERE OR ANYTHING ALONG THAT LINE. AND THAT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN THE DATA CENTERS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF IS THAT HAVE NO PROBLEM TO PUTTING THOSE UNDER CONDITIONAL USE, IF THAT MAKES YOU FEEL HAPPY. I MEAN, I KNOW THAT HELPS IN GETTING EVERYBODY BACK IN FRONT. NOW WITH YOUR GUYS'S NEW SUPERMAJORITY RULE, THAT KIND OF HELPS A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT AT THE SAME TIME. SO. IF, IF I YEAH, IF I MAY, YOU KNOW, THIS AREA OF LAND AND

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AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THEM IN TOWN. EVERYONE NEEDS THEIR CAR WASH. BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IF THERE WAS A BUSINESS THAT WANTED TO COME TO MARYSVILLE THAT MIGHT NEED TO USE WATER,

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AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S ONLY ALLOWED IN AREA A1 AND B2 OR WHATEVER THAT IS. BUT I THINK WE HAVE THERE'S SOME WORK WE NEED TO DO ON THIS. IT'S I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. I THINK ONCE WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE'LL WE'LL GET TO A GOOD CONCLUSION. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL RIGHT HERE. IT'S IN A PRIME SPOT. IT'S GREAT REAL ESTATE. SO I THINK AS WE CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, I THINK WE'LL GET A GOOD CONCLUSION. AND THAT'S HOW WE STARTED WITH EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING IS EXACTLY WHAT WE STARTED WITH, WITH ZONING AND WENT THROUGH. AND SO WE LIKE I SAID, WE SPENT THOSE TWO HOURS GOING THROUGH A LOT MORE OF THE LIST THAN I WOULD HAVE FIGURED WE WOULD HAVE DONE AT THE THING. SO WE SPENT THE TIME AND THEY FELT THAT IT WAS WORTH THE TIME TO DO IT, TO GO THROUGH, TO REMOVE THINGS, MOVE THINGS AND EVERYTHING ALONG THAT LINE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT HARD PRESSED TO SAY, HEY, NOPE, EVERYTHING GOES OR ANYTHING ALONG THAT LINE. SO WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU ON IT. YOU KNOW, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN YOU MENTIONED THE GROCERY STORES. AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I PRODUCE YOU GUYS THAT LIST THAT YOU'LL SEE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE, YOU KNOW, THE GROCERY STORE LISTED IN BEFORE, I THINK IT WAS 50 EMPLOYEES AND ABOVE. SO, I MEAN, IT WAS MEANT TO BE FOR THAT BIG ONE. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO GO BACK AND AND REDUCE THIS. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE SIT THERE AND KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS TODAY, GUESS WHAT. WHO'S BUILDING OFFICE BUILDINGS NOW. RIGHT. HOSPITALS. THAT'S IT. I MEAN, THERE'S NOBODY ELSE BUILDING BUILDINGS. SO IF THAT'S IT THEN IT'LL NEVER GET DEVELOPED. AND SO WE NEVER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND YOUR COMMUNITY AND EVERYTHING ALONG THAT LINE. THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE WANTED TO GO TO SUBAREA A AND B1, WHERE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MARKET THAT TO SOMEBODY, TO COME BACK WITH THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT AND DO ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S KIND OF MISLEADING ON AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO STAY WITHIN WHAT THE PUD AS IT WAS WHEN IT WAS DONE AND GET THIS DONE. BUT YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THIS ROAD CONFIGURATION WILL END UP BEING THAT WAY. AND BEFORE YOU CAN SEE THE YELLOW ARROWS THAT ARE ALL SAYING, HEY, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING, YOU'RE BACK INTO ROAD. SO THAT ROADWAY THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, WE WORKED WITH THE CITY ON THAT ONE BEFORE WE SPLIT THAT PROPERTY OFF AND SOLD IT SO THAT THAT ROAD WAS IN THE RIGHT SPOT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE YOU KNOW, I KNOW I TALKED TO STAFF ABOUT MAKING SURE WHEN I SAW MARYSVILLE NORTH COME IN THERE AND THAT ROAD WASN'T GETTING CONNECTED TO THEM. AND I'M LIKE, NO, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONNECTED TO THEM. YOU KNOW, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN WHY THE ONE BY BIGBY'S DOES THE EXACT SAME THING TO TO PROVIDE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHY WE MODIFIED THE MULTI USE PATHS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF THAT I'M SURE US AND STAFF WILL KEEP PUSHING THAT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY COME TO COME FROM SCOTT'S FARM. YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CROSS THE ROAD THERE AT THE LIGHT BECAUSE THE LIGHT'S IN. NOW HOP ON ONE OF THOSE AND GO UP AND GET YOUR COFFEE AT BIGGBY. OR HECK, YOU WANT TO GO TO DUNKIN DONUTS OR WHEREVER YOU WANT TO GO OVER THERE. WE'LL HAVE PATHS THAT WAY TO DO IT. SO, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE PLANNING ON AS THEY COME, YOU KNOW, AND EVERYTHING ALONG THAT LINE. AND YOU KNOW, SOME OF IT IF THIS HAS BEEN THAT HARD AND IT'S ON THAT PHILOSOPHY. AT THE SAME TIME, I UNDERSTAND YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT A LOT OF THOSE TIMES, IT ENDS UP LIKE COLEMAN'S CROSSING, WHERE YOU

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YOU KNOW, NOBODY'S BUILDING BIG BOXES ANYMORE EITHER. SO THESE WERE EVEN SMALLER BIG BOXES, YOU KNOW, AND SO EVEN TRYING TO GET THEM TO HELP THEM TO COME IN AND DO IT AND MAKE THEIR NUMBERS WORK, IT'S NOT WORKING FOR THEM EITHER. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE REMODELING WHATEVER SPACES THEY CAN FIND THAT ALREADY HAVE EXISTING BUILDINGS IN THEM AND EVERYTHING. SO THAT'S WHY WE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE LOOKED IN HERE AND, AND HAVE TURNED AWAY BECAUSE OF THIS ZONING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IN US, IN ORDER FOR US TO DO WE'LL PICK KIDDY ACADEMY OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE IN HERE. WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT VARIANCE AND MAKE THAT WORK, AND THEY WERE WILLING TO WAIT TO HAVE THAT TO HAPPEN. WE ARE LOSING PEOPLE FOR POTENTIAL TO BE ON COOK'S BOULEVARD. THAT WOULD BE THAT AND WOULD BUILD THOSE BACKAGE ROADS AND WOULD END UP DOING THAT, WOULD END UP DOING IT. BUT OUR PROBLEM IS, IS THAT BECAUSE THE ZONING WOULD HAVE TO REQUIRE SOME KIND OF CHANGE OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE, THEY'RE NOT WAITING. THEY'RE GONE. THEY ALREADY WANT TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO WE'RE WORKING MORE ON TRYING TO SAY, HEY, BE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE AND TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THEM A LITTLE BIT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THOSE PLACES THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE HERE, HERE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND BE PREPARED FOR THEM SO THAT THEY CAN JUST COME AND SAY, OKAY, HEY, NOW ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS GO TO DRB AND GO THROUGH THEM AND EVERYTHING ALONG THAT TIME TO GET OR GO THROUGH ZONING TO GET THE CONDITIONAL USE. SO THAT'S OUR MAIN GOAL, IS TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE FLEXIBLE TO GET IT BECAUSE WE'RE WE'VE LEFT THAT BLOCK C1 KIND OF OPEN BECAUSE IT'S OUR BIGGEST BLOCK TO SEE IF WE COULD GET ONE OF THOSE I DON'T WANT TO CALL THEM BIG BOX, I WANT TO CALL THEM MID BOX OR WHATEVER IN THERE THAT WOULD HELP DEVELOP THAT. AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING ELSE IN THERE IN THAT STACKS BUT IN THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO BE FLEXIBLE WITH THE USES IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN OR IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SO AND CHRIS, I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WE NEED SOMETHING OVER THERE REGARDLESS OF WHAT OTHERS THINK, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 35 TO 50% OF YOUR POPULATION ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN. IMAGINE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO TAKE ALL THOSE PEOPLE AND RUN THEM THROUGH FIVE POINTS OR COLEMAN'S CROSSING, AND THEY COULD JUST GO RIGHT HERE. WOULD WE HAVE TO DO A ROUNDABOUT? WE MAY NOT HAVE TO DO A ROUNDABOUT. IF WE CAN GET A STORE OVER THERE OR GROCERY STORE, YOU KNOW. BUT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT. SO DON'T MAKE IT SO NARROW THAT WE CAN'T PUT A STORE OVER THERE. AND I KNOW OTHERS WANT OTHER THINGS, BUT THE REALITY IS WE NEED STORES AND GROCERY STORES OVER THERE. WE DO. AND, YOU KNOW, AND YOU GUYS ARE ONLY SEEING WHAT I HAVE IN THE PUD. AND THE COOKS HAVE SEEN MY CONCEPT PLANS AND EVERYTHING THAT I'VE DONE WITH ROADS GOING DIFFERENT WAYS AND EVERYTHING TO TRY TO MAKE MORE CONNECTION OF THAT ONE. SO IT'S NOT OVERDOING, YOU KNOW, THE ROUTE FOUR AND THE 31 INTERSECTIONS, IT'S GOING SOMEWHERE. IT'S GIVING SOMEBODY AN EXTRA ROUTE OUT INSTEAD.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE CAN SPREAD THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO YOU'RE NOT JUST DOING THAT IN, YOU KNOW, WAITING IN THOSE LONG LINES TO TURN LEFT OR RIGHT OR WHATEVER IT IS OR PUTTING THOSE IMPACTS ON THERE, YOU KNOW, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. MR. REAMS, I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO SAY I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT PLANNING COMMISSION ADDED DATA PROCESSING AND TELEMARKETING, NOT BECAUSE THAT SOUNDS BAD, IT'S JUST THAT THAT'S THE CATEGORY THAT CONTAINS DATA CENTERS. AND I DON'T THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PLACE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO WANT A DATA CENTER. I THINK WE WERE TALKING AND WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT ONE, BECAUSE THAT ONE'S THE ONE WE HAD QUESTIONS AND WENT BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE I THINK IN LET'S, LET'S ALL REMEMBER WE'RE ALL OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THAT, YOU KNOW, DATA CENTERS AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS, THAT WHAT WE SAY TODAY AND WHAT IS THE THE ELEPHANT IN ALL THE ROOMS AND EVERYWHERE ELSE, IT'S NOT THE SAME AS IT WAS BACK THEN.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE LEFT THAT IN IS BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT THINKING THE BIG, HUGE BOX OF, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, IS THAT REALISTICALLY, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT, I GO, I'M THINKING MORE OF CALL CENTERS AND THAT KIND OF OFFICE KIND OF SPACE STUFF THAT IS HAPPENING IN OTHER AREAS. THAT'S WHEN I THINK OF THAT. WHEN YOU START

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OKAY. ALONG THOSE LINES, OUR OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS OKAY WITH THAT DIRECTION. CAN I JUST POINT SOMETHING OUT? YES, PLEASE. BECAUSE WE DIDN'T MAKE ENOUGH POINTS, SHOULDN'T EXCLUDE US FROM BEING IN A MEETING. SO MAYBE A WORK SESSION NEXT MONTH. I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO DELAY IT A COUPLE WEEKS, BUT. OR IS IT MORE OF I GET YOU THE LIST OF THE DIFFERENCE THAT MR. BORDNER HAS ASKED FOR. AND YOU GUYS MARK IT UP, I WOULD PROPOSE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WORKS? SO OUR WORK SESSION NEXT MONTH IS OUR STATE OF THE CITY BY.

THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S RIGHT. I WOULD PROPOSE WORKING WITH THE CLERK TO BREAK UP FOLKS IN SMALLER MEETINGS. MAYBE THERE'S TWO, MAYBE THERE'S THREE. AND THEN THE APPLICANT CAN TAKE ALL THE FEEDBACK FROM THOSE MEETINGS, CONSOLIDATE IT, AND THEN MAKE A REVISED PROPOSAL AT THE SECOND READING. I'M AVAILABLE MONDAY NIGHT. NO PROBLEM. FOR THE RECORD, THANK YOU. OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE SOME DIRECTION HERE. WE'RE GOING TO BE COMMUNICATING CERTAIN SOME THINGS THROUGH YOU, MACKENZIE, AND THEN JUST APPRECIATE THE WILLINGNESS TO CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM. BUT I THINK FOR YOUR CONTENT TONIGHT, APPRECIATE THE THE ABILITY TO EXPLAIN THIS. I KNOW MACKENZIE, THIS PROBABLY WORKED ALL DAY LONG. AND THEN YOU WENT TO SHOW IT DURING THE MEETING. AND THEN OF COURSE, IT DOESN'T WORK. THAT'S HOW IT ALWAYS HAPPENS, RIGHT? ALWAYS, ALWAYS WORKS THAT WAY. THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE. YEAH. PLEASE LOOK LIKE THREE SEPARATE, LIKE, WORKING GROUP MEETINGS. I WOULD SAY TO THE IT'S FOUR AND THREE.

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MY, MY SUGGESTION OR MY THOUGHT WAS THAT THERE LIKE A COUNCILMAN, BERGER HAD LISTED A NUMBER OF CHANGES. SO AT A MINIMUM SO LIKE SO WHAT I WOULD SAY. YEAH. SO, SO SO WHAT I THOUGHT JUST BY HEARING THE DISCUSSION, I JUST THOUGHT MAYBE, MAYBE KATHY AND I MEET WITH STAFF AND THEN TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND SEE WHERE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, JOIN FORCES ON THIS.

AND THEN I THINK KELSEY, MYSELF AND STEVEN THEN TALK ABOUT THIS, THESE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, THE MEETING MEMBERS, CAN YOU TAKE THOSE, TAKE THOSE THOUGHTS THAT ARE CONVEYED AT THAT MEETING AND THEN ASSERT THOSE IN A MEETING WITH OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS? THAT'S NOT REALLY THE WAY THIS IS SUPPOSED TO WORK. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST AS MUCH AS I KNOW THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. SO DON'T YOU WORRY. WELL, WHAT I'M I MEAN, TYPICALLY, I THINK HE SHOULD I THINK DEVELOPERS SHOULD COME BACK AND INCORPORATE ALL OF THE THOUGHTS THAT HAVE BEEN CONVEYED HERE AND MAYBE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING WITH ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO BE MORE EFFICIENT THAN HAVING, YOU KNOW, A WORKING GROUP MEETING WITH THREE SEPARATE, YOU KNOW, THREE SEPARATE TIMES OR OR WE ARE DETAILING AND MR. MY, MY SUGGESTION WAS SIMPLY BASED ON LIKE HE HAD LISTED A NUMBER. SO I WAS JUST THINKING IT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR DONALD TO MEET WITH OUR, OUR, OUR ENGINEERING PLANNING STAFF TO TALK THROUGH THAT, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE S WHY A LIGHT POLE IS BEING PROPOSED AT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FEET. AND AND MAYBE THAT WAS A POINT DISCUSSED IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO JUST TO KIND OF ALIGN PEOPLE IS WHAT I WAS THINKING. I WASN'T I SUPPOSE. YEAH. AS MORE PEOPLE HAD CONCERNS KIND OF THE, THE IDEA BECAME EVERYONE. BUT IF INDIVIDUALS MEET WITH OUR PLANNING STAFF AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME COMMUNICATION THAT CAN THEN OCCUR, I WASN'T YEAH. SUGGESTING NECESSARILY EVERY SINGLE ONE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS ALL JOIN THAT. BUT SO AND WHAT KATHY SAID. JUST BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T SAY AS MUCH AS OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAKING THE POINT THAT SHE WANTS TO BE INCLUDED IN ANY KIND OF. AND THAT'S WHAT KIND OF PROVED HERE. BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST I WOULD URGE CAUTION IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE SEPARATE MEETINGS WITH SEPARATE COUNCIL MEMBERS, I THINK THAT IT'S BETTER TO HAVE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT IN AN OPEN MEETING AND AND DISCUSS ALL THE THE, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED CHANGES THAT THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE YOU MR. TO GUIDE. YEAH. THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. I'M GOOD THE 19TH JUST FOR THE RECORD. OKAY. YOU KNOW, ANOTHER SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT THE DEVELOPER CAN COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING AND MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO INCORPORATE A LOT OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED HERE TODAY. HE CAN REACH OUT TO STAFF FOR CLARIFICATION. COME BACK AT THE SECOND READING WITH THE AMENDMENTS IN PLACE, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS IN PLACE, AND AND THEN WE CAN JUST GO FROM THERE IF WE HAVE TO TABLE IT. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT'S I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, KEN, IF YOU WANT, BUT THEN YOU CAN AT THAT POINT IF IF IT LOOKS LIKE WE NEED MORE TIME, THEN IT CAN BE TABLED. I WOULD PROPOSE JUST THAT. YEAH. OKAY. BUT IN COMMUNICATING WITH OUR STAFF, I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE VERY SPECIFIC CONCERNS AND A NUMBER OF THEM ARE IN COMMUNICATION WITH. I THINK THAT'S PERFECT. YEAH, I THINK I THINK COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN COMMUNICATE WITH STAFF, HOPEFULLY THROUGH OUR CITY MANAGER, AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, INCORPORATE A LOT OF THE CHANGES THAT THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT HERE. AND THEN THE DEVELOPER CAN COME BACK WITH WITH A NEW PLAN. ANY CONCERN WITH THAT PATH FORWARD? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERN WITH THAT. SO THE ONLY THING I WAS GOING TO ASK JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. SO THIS DOES COUNT AS OUR FIRST MEETING. DOES IT OR DOES IT NOT? OR ARE WE STARTING OVER AGAIN. SO YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S IT AND THAT'S HOW IT WORKS, I JUST SO I KNOW EXACTLY THE PROCESS AND HOW WE'RE GOING HERE. SO IT WOULD COME BACK FOR SECOND READING OKAY OKAY. AND THAT WOULD BE THE PUBLIC HEARING OKAY. AND THAT'S AN ADVERTISED THAT'S AN ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH I THINK THAT'S FINE. I THINK WE CAN DO THAT. MR. BORDEN, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I WILL I WILL COORDINATE WITH STAFF THE LIST, AS WE TALKED ABOUT THE COMPARES, THE TWO AND EVERYTHING ALONG

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THE 16TH IS A HOLIDAY TO. OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE DIRECTION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON FEBRUARY 23RD. WE

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IT EQUALS THE CITY'S INCOME TAX IS CHARGED ON EMPLOYEE WITHHOLDING, AS WELL AS NET PROFITS FOR THE COMPANY CAN BE CHARGED. THOSE MONIES ARE COLLECTED BY THE CITY. BRAD COLLECTS AND HIS STAFF COLLECTS IT. THERE'S A 3% FEE THAT BRAD KEEPS AS PART OF THAT COLLECTION PROCESS THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY KEEPS THE THE CITY. BRAD KEEPS IT ON YOUR BEHALF, ON THE CITY'S BEHALF AND AND AND SO BUT THE MONEY IS, IS IS THEN GIVEN TO THE JED BOARD TO INVEST INTO INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT THE THE SPLIT IS THERE'S A SPLIT REVOLVE AROUND THAT TO 60% GOES TO THE JED BOARD FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, 20% GOES TO THE CITY AND 20% GOES TO JEROME. BUT THE WHOLE THEORY IS, IS TO INVEST MORE MONEY INTO INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL THEN CREATE MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THEREBY CREATING JOBS, INVESTMENT AND PAYROLL, BENEFITING THE CITY NOT ONLY FROM AN INCOME TAX STANDPOINT, BUT ALSO FROM A WATER SEWER STANDPOINT, BECAUSE THOSE COMPANIES THAT COME HERE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUY WATER AND SEWER AT A SURCHARGE THAT YOU THAT YOU CURRENTLY SEE.

SO THAT'S THE THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF WHY WE HAVE A JED ON TOP OF THAT. ANNEXATION SOMETIMES IS EXPENSIVE BECAUSE IF YOU EXTEND WAY BEYOND YOUR BOUNDARIES, YOU CAN GO AWAY FROM YOUR POLICE, YOUR FIRE, YOUR RESCUE HAS TO GO LONGER DISTANCES. SO JED IS KIND OF A COMPROMISE OF HOW YOU WORK TOGETHER, CREATE A FUND TO SUPPORT FUTURE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE GOT HERE. AND AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO READ EACH OF THOSE, BUT I THINK I'VE EXPLAINED EVERYTHING IN THERE NOW. THE JED BOARD IS COMPRISED OF THE COUNTY ENGINEER WHO SERVES AS THE CHAIR. THE CITY HAS A REP, THE TOWNSHIP HAS A REP. THE THE THE TOWNSHIP THEN APPOINTS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A OF A BUSINESS WITHIN THE JED AREA.

THE CITY GETS AN APPOINTMENT OF OF A REPRESENTATIVE WHO REPRESENTS AN EMPLOYEE WITHIN THE JET AREA. SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THE SETUP AND HOW THE JED BOARD IS. AND THEN AGAIN, THE JET IS FOCUSED. IT'S A FOUNDATIONAL STRUCTURE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY IN IT YET. THIS IS GOING TO BENEFIT CITY COUNCIL'S 20 MAYBE 15, 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

THIS IS A FOUNDATIONAL PIECE, AND IT TAKES TIME TO BUILD UP MONIES THAT WILL SUPPORT REGIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT COULD GO TO ROADS, IT COULD GO TO WATER AND SEWER

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THIS IS NOT NOT A USE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE DURING THIS PROCESS. THIS IS MORE OF ADDING PROPERTIES TO SECURE INCOME TAX FOR DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S REALLY THE GAME PLAN OF WHY WE HAVE A JED SO AND A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON USES. BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY OUR DISCUSSION. IT'S THE THE GOAL HERE IS TO TALK ABOUT THE POTENTIAL INCOME TAX AND INVESTMENT. SO JEROME VILLAGE DOES. YES. IT IS A GAS STATION WHICH IS LOCATED IN JEROME VILLAGE. YOU HAVE MITCHELL PROPERTY, WHICH IS ACTUALLY LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF MITCHELL, DEWITT AND AND INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY AND HAVE BETTER MAPS HERE IN A SECOND YOU HAVE WARNER INDUSTRIAL CORPORATE CENTER, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT FARTHER SOUTH, AND IT'S PART OF PART OF THE OF STEVE PACKERS DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS THE PROPERTY OF MITCHELL DEWITT. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE AREA. AND THIS THIS IS ANOTHER USE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT. THERE'S HAD SOME CONCERNS. THIS IS LIKELY TO BE A DATA CENTER. SO THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT'S ACTUALLY HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN OR RED IN THIS AREA AS WELL. SO THAT SHOWS YOU THE AREA OF OF THE MITCHELL DEWITT. THIS USED TO BE OWNED BY JIM MITCHELL, FORMER COUNTY COMMISSIONER. ACTUALLY HE AND HIS WIFE CAROLYN ACTUALLY WILL STILL LIVE ON THE BLUE SIDE THAT'S LOCATED RIGHT THERE. THEY'VE SOLD THE PROPERTY TO A DEVELOPER OF OF DATA CENTERS, WHICH THEY BASICALLY ARE PREPARING THE SITE FOR, PROBABLY SELLING IT TO A FUTURE HYPERSCALE. AND THAT'S THE OTHER THING ABOUT DATA CENTERS.

THERE'S LIKE THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF DATA CENTERS. THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT I WAS TALKING TO KYLE BACK TO. THERE'S KYLE BACK THERE. THERE'S AN ENTERPRISE DATA CENTER WHICH IS ACTUALLY A SINGLE USER. HONDA HAS ONE ON ITS SITE THAT IT'S A DATA CENTER. AND THEY BUILT LIKE TEN YEARS AGO. THERE'S WHAT YOU CALL A COLO CO-LOCATION DATA CENTER WHICH YOU SHARE LIKE EXPEDIENT. IT'S SMALLER SCALE, BUT YOU HAVE MULTIPLE COMPANIES WILL SHARE SPACE. AND THEN THERE'S HYPERSCALE. HYPERSCALE IS ARE THE ONES ARE THE BIG ONES. THOSE ARE THE AMAZONS, THE GOOGLES AND SO FORTH. AND THAT'S SO EVERYONE CAN OPERATE THEIR PHONE EVERY NIGHT. THAT'S WHY WE GET EMAILS AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT REALLY SUPPORTS AND MANY OTHER THINGS AS WELL. SO THIS IS LIKELY TO BE A HYPERSCALE ON THIS END. THAT'S AT LEAST WHAT THEY'RE PROMOTING IT AS, JUST AN FYI. SO THIS IS NOT A VERY GOOD MAP. BUT THIS THIS THIS ACTUALLY SHOWS YOU THE DUCHESS IN THE JEROME VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS THE THE GAS STATION THAT'S BEING PROPOSED. THIS SHOWS YOU THE WARNER COMMERCE PARK. THIS IS THE PIECE THAT ACTUALLY CAME HERE TO COLLECT INCOME TAX. NOT ALL THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE PAST. SO THIS WILL BE AN ADDED BENEFIT.

THAT'S BASICALLY GOING TO BE A MULTI-TENANT INDUSTRIAL SPACE. CLASS A SPACE IS WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE. AND THAT'S IT. THAT'S MY LAST SLIDE. BUT THOSE ARE THE THREE THAT WE WE FOCUSED ON AS WELL. SO A LOT THERE I DON'T KNOW TERRY IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING. YEAH.

REAL QUICK I THINK IT MIGHT WORK. WELL, IF WE TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO COLLECT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, BRAD'S BEEN SORTING THAT THROUGH RIGHT NOW.

DO YOU MIND GIVING SOME NUMBERS HERE SO THEY GET A GENERAL IDEA. YEAH. SO THINGS REALLY STARTED RAMPING UP IN 2025. WE WE COLLECTED JUST UNDER 111,000 INTO THE GENERAL FUND. SO THAT'S THAT'S MONEY THAT THE CITY COLLECTED THAT IS OURS. THAT'S GENERAL FUND MONEY FROM ADMINISTERING THE JEDD. AND THEN THE JEDD ITSELF. SO AND IT SHOULD BE CLEAR THAT IF YOU TAKE THAT LITTLE BIT OF 3% OUT OF THERE, THAT'S WHAT JEROME TOWNSHIP RECEIVED. ALSO AS GENERAL FUND REVENUE, THE JET ITSELF RECEIVED $568,000. SO AND HAS A FUND BALANCE RIGHT NOW OF ABOUT 480,000. SO IT'S SO THAT'S ONE YEAR. THAT'S JUST ONE YEAR. SO I THINK QUITE FRANKLY I THINK THE JEDD JUST WITH THE PROPERTIES THAT HAS IN IT. AND OBVIOUSLY ERIC'S GOING OVER THESE AND THERE'S A FEW OTHERS THAT COULD COME IN AS WELL THAT THE JUDGE IS DOING, I THINK, MUCH BETTER THAN I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED IN 2025. WELL, THAT'S RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION INCOME TAX COMING FROM THE AWS FACILITIES OUT OF THE TOWNSHIP. THAT'S WHERE A LARGE CHUNK OF THAT'S COME. THAT'S WHERE THE UPTAKE ACTUALLY RELATE GETTING THAT APPROVED AND ADDING IT. SO WE MISSED SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION INCOME TAX. BUT WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF IT NOW.

SO JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS. SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT PAYING FOR ITSELF I THINK HERE WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON. AND THIS MONEY IS USED TO ESSENTIALLY FUND THAT

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THAT'S ABOUT $13,800 THAT WE AS A CITY WOULD, WOULD GAIN FROM INCOME TAX FROM THIS SITE. OKAY, MAYBE MINUSCULE. WE WOULD PROBABLY COLLECT ON WATER TAP FEES. MY CONCERN IS THOUGH, HOW DO WE CONTROL THE THE WATER AND THE IN THE LONG TERM IMPACT THAT IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ON THE CITY ON MARYSVILLE WATER COMPANY? GREAT. GREAT QUESTION. I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO PUNT THE BALL TO JEREMY. BUT WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION TODAY. SO I'LL TURN OVER TO JEREMY. YEAH. SO AT LEAST WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT THEY FIRST TOUCHED BASE, WE'LL SAY TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO. SO AT THAT TIME WE GAVE THEM A NUMBER THAT WE COULD PROVIDE THAT FELT GOOD. THIS IS EVEN BEFORE THE WATER MASTER PLAN. AS OF NOW, WE HAVE NOT AGREED TO A QUANTITY, BUT IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO PROJECT COSMOS. YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN ON THE, ON THE HIGH END. AND THEN AS WELL WE HAVE A NOW A TEMPLATE FOR A WATER SEWER AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE ALL LARGE USERS, WHICH I WOULD FEEL THIS THIS PROPERTY WOULD FIT IN, THE DUKE AND DUCHESS OR BP WOULD NOT FALL UNDER. SO WE HAVE YET TO FULLY EXECUTE THAT DOCUMENT WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER. AND IT JUST SO WE ALL HEAR THE NEWS, READ THE NEWS SO WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE AREA, RIGHT? NOT ONE BUT TWO. SO THEN I WOULD PRESUME AGAIN THAT'S GOING TO HAVE SOME POTENTIAL IMPACT ON, YOU KNOW, BASED ON SOME OUTCOME. RIGHT ON ON THE WATER CONDITION AS WELL. SO IT'S JUST THINKING ABOUT LONG TERM THAT, THAT IMPACT TO, TO, TO OUR WATER RESOURCES AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE THERE'S AN IMPACT IF IT, YOU KNOW, IF IT DEVELOPS AS IT IS TODAY. BUT IF IT WAS A MANUFACTURING COMPLEX INSTEAD, IT WOULD ALSO HAVE AN IMPACT ON, ON THE WATER. SO WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THAT MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING CONSCIOUS ABOUT WHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW WE'RE DOING IT. AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT WE ARE AND VERY, VERY GOOD POINT. AND AND THERE'S CONCERNS ARE OUT THERE.

I WILL SAY WE DID GO BACK. AND I THINK AMAZON PAID IT LIKE THIS LAST YEAR, $3 MILLION IN WATER AND CERTAIN FEES. IT'S A PRETTY BIG CHUNK OF MONEY. BUT THIS IS USAGE GOING FORWARD TO THAT POINT. I JUST I THINK AN EXPANSION IS IS IS GOING TO BE COSTLY AS WELL. SO WE JUST GOT

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FULL DISCLOSURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I MAY GO AHEAD, YOU KNOW, TO CALM THE NERVES OF MAYBE COUNCILMAN BOYD, I THINK MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO. COUNCIL MEMBER MARK REAMS, PRESIDENT OF COUNCIL. HUNTER, MYSELF, ERIC AND JEREMY. AND IF I DIDN'T SAY TERRY ALREADY. AND TERRY, WE WE STARTED MEETING WIH JEROME MONTHLY TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THESE ISSUES. I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN THERE'S BEEN SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FROM THE COUNTY. I KNOW THERE'S CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SOME JEROME TOWNSHIP AND MYSELF, YOU KNOW, ABOUT HOW DO WE HANDLE THIS, TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS IN THE FUTURE. IS IT NECESSARY THAT WE GIVE WATER TO USES THAT ABSORB A LOT OF WATER? I MEAN, DO WE GIVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE TO USES THAT ABSORB A LOT OF WATER? I THINK THAT'S A SERIOUS QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED. YOU CAN SAY ON ONE SIDE OF YOUR MOUTH THAT YOU HAVE TO BE THE WATER SUPPLIER, UTILITY SUPPLIER, BUT AT WHAT COST? I'M NOT GIVING EVERYTHING AWAY. AND YOU CAN TOUT THE MONEY. BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LONG TERM, YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, THOSE WAGES ARE NOT THAT HIGH. SO I THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY TO CREATE SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LEGISLATION THAT SAYS, LIKE, THESE ARE THE TYPES OF USES WE WANT TO PROVIDE WATER TO. AND ALSO I WANT TO GIVE MY RESIDENTS AND THIS COMMUNITY EASE, KNOWING THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROTECT THEM, BECAUSE THE STATE DIDN'T DO IT AND THEY GAVE THEM THE THEY GAVE THE INITIATIVE FOR THEM TO COME. AND NOW BECAUSE OF IT, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. SO I JUST WANT TO JUST MAKE THAT KNOWN. AND I HOPE THAT OTHERS ON COUNCIL WILL JOIN THE CONVERSATION AS WELL. THANK YOU. AND JUST TO GET US BACK TO WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE NOT VOTING ON TONIGHT, BUT WHAT WE'RE READING THROUGH TONIGHT, THIS IS TO ADD THESE PARTICULAR PARCELS TO THE AGREEMENT, CORRECT? YES. YEAH. OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBERS? SO FOR 0626 THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING. AND THEN WE DID TALK ABOUT THE FOLLOWING ONES. BUT WE CAN KIND OF GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF

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COUNCIL MEMBERS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, ADMINISTRATION OR NO FURTHER COMMENTS? RATHER. OKAY, THAT'LL BE BACK. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING

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AND THEN WHEN WE GOT TO THE END OF THE FEDERAL PROGRAM IN 2024, I WENT TO THE COG AND SAID, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO WITH THIS MONEY THAT'S STILL SITTING IN THERE? ROUGHLY HALF OF IT HAD BEEN SPENT AS PART OF THE GRANT. THE OTHER HALF WAS THERE. THE COG AGREED AS MEMBERS TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT INTO THE OPERATING FUND AND HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, REDUCE THE AMOUNT IN YEARLY CONTRIBUTION AS RELATED TO THOSE FUNDS, SO THAT ALL THAT ALL HAPPENED NICE AND EASY. THEN OUR GAP CONVERTER CALLED ME AND SAID, HEY, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT ADVANCE? AND I SAID, WHAT ADVANCE? THERE YOU GO. THAT ADVANCE. SO I SAID, WE GOT THE AUDITORS ON A CONFERENCE CALL. WE SAID, OKAY, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THIS? SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO DO REVERSE THE TRANSFER. SO TAKE THE MONEY OUT OF THE COGS OPERATING FUND, PUT IT BACK INTO THE CAPITAL, WHICH WILL LEAVE ENOUGH TO REPAY THE ADVANCE BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. SO THAT CANCELS OUT. AND THEN WE WILL TAKE THE MONEY THAT'S LEFT IN THE 482 AND WHAT'S IN THE GENERAL FUND AND MOVE IT TO THE OPERATING FUND OF THE THE NORTHWEST 33 COG. SO IN OTHER WORDS, NOBODY'S FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF ALL THIS WILL CHANGE FROM WHAT IT IS TODAY. THIS JUST ALLOWS US TO CLOSE OUT THAT ADVANCE AND NOT DO LIKE A RESTATEMENT OF FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WOULD GET REALLY AWKWARD. AS I SAID, THIS WAS DISCUSSED WITH OUR GAP CONVERTER AND THE AUDITORS ON A TRI CALL. SO HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW WHEN IT COMES TIME TO AUDIT IT, THEY'LL BE OKAY WITH IT BECAUSE THEY SAID IT WAS OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS JUST ONE QUESTION.

THIS SEEMS VERY ADMINISTRATIVE. WE HAVE TO HEAR IT. WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT. WHY IS THE TRANSFER BECAUSE OF THE TRANSFER. YEAH. ANYTIME WE MOVE MONEY BETWEEN FUNDS AND THAT'S I MEAN ANYTHING. SO WHETHER IT'S AGENCY, WHETHER IT'S CAPITAL, WHETHER IT'S DEBT SERVICE IT DOESN'T MATTER HAS TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL. OBVIOUSLY A MAJORITY OF YOUR TRANSFERS WERE ALREADY APPROVED AS PART OF THE BUDGET. BUT OF COURSE, I DIDN'T EXPECT TO BE MOVING MONEY LIKE THIS. SO THAT'S WHY IT HAS TO COME TO YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. SO JUST SO I MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. SO WE HAVE TO TAKE MONEY FROM THE COG, MOVE IT TO THE CAPITAL FUND AND MOVE SOME MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND OR FROM THE CAPITAL FUND. MOVE IT TO MOVE CAPITAL PLUS GENERAL. YEAH WE GOT IT. SO THAT THAT TWO. SO THE $216,666.68, THAT WAS WHAT WAS AN ADVANCE BACK IN 2018. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE WE'RE DOING ADVANCE OUT FROM THE 482 AND ADVANCE IN TO THE GENERAL FUND. AND THEN WE WILL TRANSFER OUT THAT 216 660 6.6 WELL, IT SHOULD BE SIX EIGHT, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S GONNA GET WORKED UP ABOUT THE PENNIES AND WHAT WAS LEFT IN THE 482 FUND. BACK TO THE COG FUND. SO IF YOU SEE THE NUMBER AT THE BOTTOM 313921.36, THE NUMBER AT THE TOP, THEY MATCH. SO ALL WE'RE DOING IS SO IT'S LIKE RIGHT POCKET, LEFT POCKET AND MAYBE A BACK POCKET. AND THEN AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY IT TRUES UP. YEP. GOT IT. UNDERSTAND. THANKS. YOU'RE WELCOME. OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. OKAY. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING ON FEBRUARY 23RD, 2026. COMMENTS OF THE CITY

[COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL PERSONS AND GENERAL DISCUSSION]

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SO I JUST WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR THEIR FOR THE PREPARATION AND AND HOW THEY ADDRESSED. YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY, NOT FROM THE FROM THE MAJOR STREETS TO THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE REMOVAL OF THE SNOW AND THE UPTOWN AREA ON ON THAT WEDNESDAY NIGHT WHEN THEY CAME UP AND, AND, AND YOU JUST BASICALLY SAW NO SNOW IN, IN THE UPTOWN, WHICH WAS JUST AMAZING AND, AND AWESOME. SO JUST WANTED TO THANK STAFF AGAIN, WANT TO THANK JEREMY AND ALL THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. I THINK IT WAS WORKED OUT VERY WELL. HOPEFULLY WE DON'T GET ONE OF THESE FOR A WHILE AGAIN, BUT AGAIN, THANK THEM AND AND APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT FOR FOR BUDGETING THE NECESSITIES THAT WE NEED DURING A PROCESS LIKE THIS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS YOUNG. JUST A REMINDER IT'S TAX SEASON. GET YOUR CITY TAXES FILED. AND I ALSO APPRECIATE THEM OUT THERE.

I WAS BACK IN THE TAX OFFICE AS SOON AS THE LEVEL THREE LIKE IT WAS IN A HALF HOUR DOING TAXES AGAIN. SO ALL I HAVE TO SAY, MR. REAMS, I WANTED TO THANK THE CITY STAFF ALSO FOR CLEARING THE ROADS. I, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE IT WAS KIND OF A NERDY, BUT I WAS SO EXCITED ABOUT HOW WELL IT WAS DONE. I TOOK A PICTURE OF THE STREETS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I IT JUST LOOKED SO MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT I'VE SEEN IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, AND IT'S GREAT.

AND THEN I WANT TO WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY THIS WEEKEND. THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY IS, IF YOU'RE GOING OUT OR YOU'RE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, BUYING A GIFT, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER SUPPORTING YOUR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESS. BECAUSE WHEN THAT SNOW FELL AND THAT COLD SNAP HIT, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT STAYED INSIDE. AND THE LAST TWO WEEKS HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT SLOW. SO GO OUT AND SUPPORT THOSE SMALL BUSINESSES IF YOU CAN. THANK YOU, MRS. TAKACS. TERRY BEAT ME TO IT, BUT I WAS GOING TO MENTION A BIG APPRECIATION IN THE UPTOWN SNOW REMOVAL AS A BUSINESS OWNER AND SPEAKING WITH OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS AND ALSO PATRONS OF THE UPTOWN BUSINESSES, IT WAS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED TO NOT HAVE TO OPEN YOUR DOOR INTO THE PARALLEL, PARKED 2 TO 3FT OF SNOW ON THE SIDE AND CLIMB AROUND ON MAY NORTH FIFTH STREET TO GET TO THE CLOSEST CROSSWALK. SO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE EFFORT TO GET THAT DONE. AND SINCE IT'S DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S MELTING ANYTIME SOON. SO. AND THEN ON ANOTHER PERSONAL NOTE THAT IS VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. PUN INTENDED. FEBRUARY IS AMERICAN HEART MONTH. MY EIGHT MONTH OLD SON ACE, HAS HYPOPLASTIC LEFT HEART SYNDROME.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW ME OUTSIDE OF THIS ROOM, HE HAS HAD TWO OPEN HEART SURGERIES AND SO THIS MONTH IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME AND MY FAMILY. AND SO I JUST WANT TO EXTEND MY PRAYERS TO THOSE OF YOU WHO ALSO HAVE TO BATTLE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT CONGENITAL HEART DEFECTS. AND I'M ALWAYS AN OPEN LISTENING EAR. IF YOU EVER FIND YOURSELF WITH A FAMILY MEMBER DEALING WITH THAT. SO OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. COUNCILMAN BORDNER, I'VE SAID ENOUGH THIS EVENING, SO I'LL PASS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN WOLFF. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. IF YOU WANT A LITTLE MOTIVATION THAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS SPRING AND INCHING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO WARMER WEATHER. PITCHERS AND CATCHERS REPORTED TODAY FOR BASEBALL. SO WE'RE GETTING A LOT CLOSER TO BASEBALL SEASON STARTIN AND BEING OUT IN WARMER WEATHER.

AND THEN ON ANOTHER NOTE, IF YOU'VE EVER DRIVEN THROUGH, YOU KNOW, SMALLER TOWNS THROUGHOUT THE AREA, KENTON, RICHWOOD, PLAIN CITY, YOU. WELL, I GUESS PLAIN CITY WOULD BE COMING THIS YEAR. THERE'S SOMETHING THEY DO DOWNTOWN ON THEIR LIGHTPOSTS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF ALL CITIES ARE PART OF THIS, BUT THEY GET INVOLVED WITH THE HOMETOWN HEROES BANNER PROGRAM. AND I SAW THIS ON FACEBOOK THIS PAST WEEKEND, AND PLAIN CITIES STARTING THAT PROCESS, GETTING INVOLVED AND KIND OF WORKING THAT OUT. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE PROCESS OF OUR CITY OF MARYSVILLE GETTING INVOLVED, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU SEND IN, HEY, THIS IS A KIND OF APPLICATION FOR HERE'S A VETERAN THAT WE KNOW THAT IS PART OF THE FAMILY AND THEN IT WORKS WITH THE CITY.

AND THEN I THINK THERE'S A FEE I DON'T KNOW WITH EVERY CITY, BUT THERE'S A FEE FOR THIS PLAIN CITY, ONE THAT'S ABOUT $75. BUT I JUST THOUGHT SOMETHING LIKE THAT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL FOR US TO LOOK INTO GETTING INVOLVED WITH, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO THIS IS THE FIRST MEETING THAT I WAS ABLE TO RUN IN 2026. AND, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST MEETING THAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO RUN WAS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. WE HAD TO CANCEL THAT DUE TO INCLEMENT WEATHER. WE I WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO MY FIRST CENTRAL OHIO MANAGER MAYOR MEETING. IT WAS CANCELED FOR THE MOST PART FOR US DUE TO INCLEMENT WEATHER AND OUR ROUTE GETTING THERE, BUT SOME FIRSTS FOR ME IN 2026. I'M LOOKING FORWARD. APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THE WILLINGNESS TO SUPPORT JUST NOMINATION VOTING FOR PRESIDENT AND THE ABILITY TO RUN THESE MEETINGS. DON'T WORRY, COUNCILMAN BERGER, I'M SURE YOU'LL HAVE YOUR OPPORTUNITY WHEN I'M OUT TO PICK UP WHERE I LEFT OFF AND AND RUN THE MEETING, BUT I JUST LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE TO TO COME IN THIS YEAR. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE IN THE THICK OF IT, WHEN YOU'RE IN PART OF ALL THESE VARIOUS MEETINGS THAT WERE PART OF, I THINK WE LOSE SIGHT OF ALL OF THAT'S GOING ON. AND I REMEMBER ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO THERE WAS A PODCAST TYPE INTERVIEW WITH JOE CASE, LOCAL MEDIA REPORTER, AND HE STARTED GOING DOWN A LIST OF ALL OF THAT'S GOING ON. AND IT WASN'T EVEN COMPREHENSIVE LIST, BUT IT WAS A LONG LIST. AND I STARTED TO THINK, WELL, YEAH, I'M PART OF THAT. I'M PART OF THAT, YOU KNOW? AND IT JUST REALLY MAKES YOU JUST REALIZE WHAT ALL IS GOING ON IN THIS CITY. AND THERE'S SO MUCH I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT IN ON JUST A PROJECT MEETING THAT NOT ONLY INVOLVES MARYSVILLE, BUT IT INVOLVES THE REST OF THE COUNTY. AS YOU YOU HEARD TONIGHT, WE'RE A UTILITY PROVIDER, SO UTILITIES DON'T STOP AT, YOU KNOW, MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES. THEY EXTEND BEYOND INTO TOWNSHIPS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON. AND I JUST THINK AS AS YOU HAD PUT IT, TERRY, JUST THE THE STAFF DOING THEIR PART THERE, YOU MENTIONED THE COSTS OF THE I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED THIS MEETING, THE COST OF SALT OR THE AMOUNT OF SALT THAT WE'VE USED, THE AMOUNT OF HOURS THAT WE USE, BUT THAT THAT MEANS THAT PEOPLE ARE PULLING EXTRA SHIFTS.

PEOPLE ARE REALLY DOING A LOT. WE HAD THE SNOW CLEARING DOWNTOWN. I HAD HEARD FROM FROM OTHER RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, TAKING THEIR CHILDREN TO DANCE CLASS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE TO TAKE A MAZE ANYMORE. THEY CAN GET TO THE ACTUAL FRONT DOOR. BUT WE HAVE SO MUCH GOING ON, SO MUCH, SO MANY NEW PROJECTS, SO MUCH REDEVELOPMENT OF, WELL, I GUESS MAYBE RE REVITALIZATION OF HISTORIC INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU MIGHT SAY IT THAT WAY, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON IN MARYSVILLE, SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY AS WELL WITH JUST THE NEW, THE NEWNESS TO SOME OF OUR PROJECTS. AND I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE IN THE COMING MONTHS, IN THIS COMING MONTH, I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT A CLOSE TO OUR SECOND PHASE OF OUR VISION PROCESS. AND THAT'S BEEN WORK THAT'S BEEN ONGOING FOR THE GOOD PART. WELL, I THINK BEYOND A YEAR NOW, AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO BE HIRING A NEW CITY MANAGER. AND THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE OUR CITY IN A IN A DIRECTION IN THE FUTURE. AND

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[THE POTENTIAL TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE PURCHASE OF PROPERTY AND TO DISCUSS THE EMPLOYMENT OF A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE]