Mar 09, 2026 City Council

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7 P.M. YOU ARE AT MARYSVILLE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. I WANT TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. WE ARE GOING TO STAND AND SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I WOULD ASK THAT YOU REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALMIGHTY GOD, WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND ITS CITIZENS. AMEN. ROLL CALL ZACH BODNER HERE, STEVEN WOLF HERE, DONNA BERGER HERE. SCOTT HUNTER HERE. KELSEY HERE,

[ APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT]

A VISION THAT I HOPE THAT WE ALL SHARE. THANKS TO OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, THE UNION COUNTY CVB, OUR INCREDIBLE VOLUNTEER BOARD, COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND SUPPORT FROM ALL OF YOU. WE SAW ATTENDANCE INCREASE ACROSS ALL OF OUR SIGNATURE EVENTS.

FESTIVE FARE, LED BY RYAN BOWIE, SAW A NEAR 10% INCREASE IN ATTENDANCE TO OVER 13,000 VISITORS, A RECORD, WHILE INCREASING THE EVENT FOOTPRINT TO AND TOTAL VENDORS BY 16%.

MARYSVILLE, ALSO LED BY RYAN BOWIE, HAD CLOSED STREETS FOR THE FIRST TIME THANKS TO CITY SUPPORT, AND WE PROVIDED OUR SAFEST MARYSVILLE IN HISTORY AGAIN WITH RECORD ATTENDANCE AND INCREASED ACTIVITIES LIKE A KIDS AND PETS COSTUME CONTEST. AND THE UNION COUNTY FOUNDATION SUPPORTED UPTOWN BUSINESSES WITH A CANDY GRANT TO HELP RELIEVE SOME OF THE EXPENSES TO THE SMALL BUSINESSES TO PARTICIPATE IN GARYVILLE FOR INCREASED PARTICIPATION. THIS YEAR, CHRISTMAS WALK AGAIN LED BY RYAN BOWIE AND KAREN ELLEN. WE JOINED FORCES WITH MARY ANN MAIN THIS YEAR FOR A MASSIVE SATURDAY NIGHT CELEBRATION UPTOWN WITH CLOSED STREETS, TONS OF ACTIVATIONS, AND THE TREE LIGHTING AND CARRIAGE RIDES THAT EVERYONE LOVES. AND THERE WAS A 58% ATTENDANCE INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR FROM THE CHRISTMAS WALK. TYPICAL ATTENDANCE. IT WAS A RECORD AND I BELIEVE THE SATURDAY DATE CHANGE IS GOING TO BE A NEW FAVORITE FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO ENJOY YEAR AFTER YEAR. THESE SMALL CHANGES TO THESE EVENTS ARE A RESULT OF THE TRUST AND THE PARTNERSHIP WE'VE BUILT WITH THE CITY AND OUR COMMUNITY TO CREATE EVENTS THAT ACTIVATE UPTOWN IN A BIG WAY, AND WE ARE CERTAINLY GRATEFUL. LAST YEAR WE ALSO HAD OUR FIRST UPTOWN EGG HUNT, NOW NAMED THE UPTOWN EGG SCRAMBLE, WHICH WILL BE HAPPENING SATURDAY, MARCH 21ST. COMING UP WITH A KIDS EGG DASH WITH 5000 EGGS AND AN ADULT SHOPPING CHALLENGE PROMOTING UPTOWN BUSINESS, WE WELCOME YOU TO TAKE PART IN THE FUN AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BE PUTTING ON THIS EVENT, NOT ONLY USING SOME FUNDS THAT SOME OF THE OTHER EVENTS RAISED, BUT ALSO WITH SPONSORSHIP FROM FROM SOME OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES LIKE MONARCHS ROOFING COMPANY. WE SUPPORTED THE HOMECOMING PARADE FOR THE FIRST TIME COHESIVELY

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AND ADDITIONALLY, WE HOST BI MONTHLY UPTOWN BUSINESS OWNER MEETINGS WITH GREAT COMMITMENT FROM A MAJORITY OF OUR UPTOWN BUSINESSES WHO ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGED AND INVESTED IN THE UPTOWN. THIS LEADS TO PROBLEM SOLVING, NEW IDEAS AND COLLABORATION THAT CREATE VIBRANCE AND A COHESIVE UPTOWN. ONE OF OUR BIGGEST ACCOMPLISHMENTS LAST YEAR WAS THE TRAFFIC BOX ART PROJECT, LED BY OUR DESIGN COMMITTEE WITH ASHLEY GABER AND DONALD BERGER, AND IT WAS A TRUE LABOR OF LOVE THAT RESULTED IN THESE NEW PUBLIC ART PIECES THAT GET GREAT ENGAGEMENT FROM THE PUBLIC REGULARLY. AND WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR A NEW MURAL FOR AMERICA. 250 THANKS TO THE SUCCESS OF THIS EFFORT. AND AGAIN, IT WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT CITY PARTNERSHIP. OUR COMMITTEES ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH BUSINESSES, BUILDING OWNERS, RESIDENTS, AND MORE TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE UPTOWN. IT WOULD TAKE A DAY TO COVER ALL OF THE INITIATIVES WE'RE WORKING ON, BUT WE PUT ALL OF THE RESULTS OF OUR EFFORTS ONLINE, LIKE OUR SMALL BUSINESS RESOURCE GUIDE, OUR ECONOMIC VITALITY COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER THAT INCLUDES JESSE SAP TO HELP NEW BUSINESSES UPTOWN FIND THEIR WAY. AND WE'RE ALSO FULLY COMMITTED TO THE NEW VISION PLAN COMMISSIONED BY COUNCIL. AND WE'LL BE ACTIVELY WORKING TOGETHER TO SEE THAT VISION TO FRUITION. WE INVITE EVERYONE, EVERYONE HERE, TO OUR FIRST ANNUAL STATE OF THE UPTOWN ADDRESS. NEXT THURSDAY, MARCH 19TH AT THE AVALON. WE'LL BE OPENING AT 6 P.M. FOR A HAPPY HOUR WITH A PRESENTATION STARTING AT SEVEN, AND WE'LL BE SHARING OUR ANNUAL REPORT, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED THAN THIS, GIVING THREE NEW UPTOWN AWARDS THAT WE HOPE TO START A TRADITION WITH AND HEAR FROM A KEYNOTE SPEAKER, FRANCIS JOE HAMILTON FROM HERITAGE OHIO, ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF MAIN STREET AND OUR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN. IF ANYTHING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, FREE BEER FROM HAPPENSTANCE AND APPETIZERS FROM LEON'S. SO COME JOIN US FOR SNACKS AND DRINKS. I PUT SOME INVITATIONS AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ONE ON THEIR WAY OUT, AND THERE'S A QR CODE TO RSVP TO JOIN US. AND WE'D LOVE TO SEE EVERYONE THERE. MAIN STREET MARYSVILLE IS A LABOR OF LOVE AND PRIDE FOR OUR COMMUNITY FROM OUR BOARD OF VOLUNTEERS, AND WE WORK HARD BECAUSE WE BELIEVE OUR UPTOWN IS THE HEART OF THE CITY AND WE WANT IT TO BE STRONG, VIBRANT, AND A HOME FOR EVERYONE HERE AND TOGETHER. WE CAN CONTINUE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT VISION, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO A 2026 TO REMEMBER. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND ALL THE SUPPORT YOU'VE GIVEN US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME ENHANCEMENTS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING SOME EXCITING NEW VENTURES AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW OUR WORK TOGETHER. HEY, LIZ. LIZ, HOLD THEIR. YES, THERE MAY BE QUESTIONS. I'M READY FOR QUESTIONS. NOT NOT HARD ONES, COUNCILMAN, NOT MATH QUESTIONS. KELSEY, DO YOU WANT WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST? THANK YOU, LIZ, FOR BREAKING DOWN THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT MAIN STREET DOES. I HAVE SERVED ON THE BOARD FOR, I THINK, ABOUT TWO YEARS NOW AS AN UPTOWN BUSINESS OWNER. FOUND IT. AND WHAT I RAN ON FOR THIS POSITION IS THAT AND LIZ MENTIONED IT. OUR UPTOWN IS THE HEART OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE ALWAYS SAYS THAT WE NEED OUR, YOU KNOW, KEEP OUR SMALL TOWN VIBES AND YOUR SMALL TOWN CAN BE FOUND IN THE HEART OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE PLANNED IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR CITY TO BRING OUR COMMUNITY TO A PLACE THAT WE CAN ALL APPRECIATE TOGETHER AND HAVE OUR KIDS APPRECIATE THE HISTORIC UPTOWN AND TEACH THEM. YOU KNOW WHAT MARYSVILLE HAS BEEN ABOUT AND WILL BE ABOUT FOR DECADES TO COME. SO I APPRECIATE AND, YOU KNOW, MY WORK ON THE BOARD AS WELL. I KNOW HOW MUCH THAT YOU GUYS PUT INTO IT WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO AND IT'S NOT PAID. AND YOU GUYS JUST LOVE THE UPTOWN. AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE OF WHAT WE DO. YOU KNOW, I WISH THERE WERE 100 PEOPLE ON THE BOARD SO WE COULD PLAN ACTIVITIES EVERY WEEKEND UPTOWN, SO. RIGHT. WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO WORK TOGETHER TO CONTINUE TO MAKE MAIN STREET MARYSVILLE AN EVEN STRONGER COMMUNITY AND BRING ON LEADERSHIP THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THAT MISSION. I HOPE THAT WE CAN MAKE HAPPEN. ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK ALL OF OUR COMMITTEES HAVE ROOM FOR VOLUNTEERS AT ANY TIME. SO IF YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO WANTS TO JOIN AT LIKE MORE OF A COMMITTEE LEVEL VERSUS MAYBE LIKE A MORE EXTREME BOARD COMMITMENT, WE'RE HERE TO TALK. AND I ALSO DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT A LOT OF THE WORK THAT UPTOWN BUSINESSES DO TO HAVE THEIR OWN EVENTS AND CREATE POCKETS OF VIBRANCY WITHIN THE UPTOWN, ALREADY OUTSIDE OF MAIN STREET, MARYSVILLE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD STUFF. YEAH, YEAH,

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THESE ARE ALL THINGS I'VE HAD MY KIDS AT. AND IT'S UNLIKE JUST, YOU KNOW, GOING DOWN TO, I DON'T KNOW, SEE A MOVIE AND COMING BACK. IT'S IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN THAT.

THEY'RE ENGAGING IN THEIR COMMUNITY. THEY'RE LEARNING. THEY'RE BEING A PART OF SOMETHING SPECIAL HERE IN MARYSVILLE. SO, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. AND WE CERTAINLY THANK STREETS AND UTILITIES AND PARKS AND REC WHO DO A LOT OF THE HEAVY LIFTING WHEN WE CLOSE THE STREETS AND INCLUDING I DIDN'T EVEN MENTION OUR CAR SHOW. YOU KNOW, THEY DO A LOT OF WORK TO CLOSE THE STREETS FOR THAT TOO. AND IT'S A LITTLE CHAOTIC RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A FRIDAY NIGHT UPTOWN. SO, YOU KNOW, CHAD AND ALEXIS HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL PARTNERS, HELPING US SEE THESE VISIONS THROUGH. AND LIKE I SAID, DOING THE HEAVY LIFTING. AND IT'S BEEN REALLY BEAUTIFUL. I KNOW THE COMMUNITY REALLY APPRECIATES THE CLOSED STREETS. WE GET TONS OF COMMENTS ALL THE TIME ABOUT HOW MUCH SAFER IT FEELS AND HOW MUCH MORE CONFIDENT THEY FEEL BRINGING THEIR KIDS UPTOWN FOR THESE EVENTS WHEN THEY MIGHT WANT TO RUN AROUND. SO IT'S BEEN REALLY SPECIAL. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THAT CONCLUDES OUR ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT. THANK YOU LIZ. GREAT. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. THANKS, JESS. REPORT OF CLERK OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU, MR.

[REPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT]

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I'VE BEEN WATCHING YOUR VIDEOS ON FACEBOOK, AND I WILL SAY THAT YOU GUYS ARE GETTING PRETTY JAZZY WITH THEM. SO I WANT TO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT LEVEL OF CREATIVITY TO ENGAGE VIEWERSHIP. SO THANK YOU. YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB. PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION

[PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION REPORT]

BUT THEN ON OUR AGENDA, WE HAD A CONVERSATION ON THE STREET TREE FEE, AN INCREASE FOR THAT THAT PASSED THE COMMISSION 5 TO 0 IN SUPPORT. AND THEN WE ALSO DISCUSSED PARKLAND FEES INCREASE, WHICH WILL BE BEFORE US TONIGHT. JEREMY WILL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE IN DEPTH. BUT THAT WAS SUPPORTED FIVE TO NOTHING. THEN WE ALSO HAD A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION ON THE SCOTT FAMILY PARK. DIFFERENT KIND OF PLANS AND OPTIONS WE HAVE WITH THAT MOVING FORWARD, AND KIND OF GETTING A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO WITH THE AREA. SO WE'LL HAVE THAT BACK UP, AS YOU KNOW, IN OUR NEXT FEW MEETINGS, TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ON WHAT WE THINK SHOULD HAPPEN THERE AND WHAT THE IDEA IS TO TO LAY IT OUT. THERE WAS A CONTINUED CONVERSATION ON OUR E-BIKE SCOOTER POLICY THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, AND THE HOPE IS TO GET THAT FINISHED BEFORE SCHOOL LETS OUT IN THE SUMMER AND MORE KIDS ARE OBVIOUSLY MOVING AROUND, MOVING AROUND TOWN. WE HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION ON THE RENAMING OF THE VINE STREET PARK THERE AT THE CORNER OF VINE AND FIFTH. I BELIEVE THAT WAS FROM OUR COUNCIL MEMBER BURGER, WANTING TO HAVE US RENAME THAT AFTER SAMUEL CUTHBERTSON. SO IT WOULD BE NAMED CUTHBERTSON PARK AND THAT WAS PASSED FIVE TO NOTHING. SO IT WAS SHOULD BE COMING TO US, I BELIEVE AT SOME POINT. AND THEN WE REVIEWED THE PARKS AND REC RULES. NOTHING TOO CRAZY THERE. NOTHING CHANGED. AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO THE COMMISSIONERS WERE ALL ASSIGNED THE PARKS THAT WE LOOK AFTER. SO WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION AND OUR NEXT MEETING IS GOING TO COME UP ON TUESDAY THE 17TH AT 6 P.M. HERE AT CITY HALL. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. ANY COMMENTS? QUESTIONS FOR COUNCILMAN WOLFF. THE THE ONLY STATEMENT I WOULD HAVE. I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD AND CITY STAFF FOR RENAMING THE VINE STREET PARK AND GIVING IT AN OFFICIAL NAME. FOR SOME OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, THE GENTLEMAN WAS THE FOUNDER OF MARYSVILLE, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE THE GATEWAY INTO THE COMMUNITY. YEARS AGO, THE GATEWAY INTO THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT WAS ACTUALLY FIVE POINTS. AND SADLY, YOU KNOW, THE ZONING WAS NOT SET FOR THAT. SO THE LEVEL OF HOMES HAPPENED. SO WE'RE SO THE NEW GATEWAY INTO THE DISTRICT WILL BE RIGHT THERE AT VINE STREET. SO NAMING THAT PARK, GIVING HISTORY TO THE TOWN AND WHO THIS GENTLEMAN WAS. AND HOPEFULLY EVENTUALLY THERE WAS A THERE WAS A RESIDENT WHO HER NAME IS KAREN PAGE. SHE ACTUALLY, WHEN SHE PASSED AWAY, WILLED THE CITY SOME SOME MONEY THAT WILL BE USED HOPEFULLY WITH FOR A STATUE OF SAMUEL'S DAUGHTER MARY, WHO MARYSVILLE RECEIVED HER NAME FROM MARY. THAT WILL GO AS THE GATEWAY INTO THAT PARK. SO THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME IN THE MAKING, BUT GLAD TO SEE THE FIRST STEPS ARE DONE. AND TO RESIDENTS.

THAT'S WHY THAT WAS STATED DURING THE CITY THE PARKS COMMISSION MEETING. SO THANK YOU. I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH HOW ENTHUSED I AM FOR THE RESTROOM FACILITY TO COME TO ALDERSGATE PARK. I LIVE IN THAT VICINITY AND I SEE HOW BUSY THAT GETS ON NICE DAYS. THERE'S PEOPLE FROM

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A LOT OF KIDS OF ALL AGES. AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO JUST REALLY HELP OUT THE COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. MOVING ON. WE WILL MOVE TO HEARING OF CITIZENS. SO THIS IS A TIME IN OUR MEETING WHERE CITIZENS ARE GIVEN UP TO FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO PENDING LEGISLATION. AND IF YOU ARE WANTING TO SPEAK, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND THEN SPEAK TO ITEMS AGAIN NOT RELATED TO PENDING LEGISLATION. IF THERE ARE ANY CITIZENS AT THIS TIME WOULD BE THE TIME TO COME FORWARD. OKAY, SEEING NO CITIZENS, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ORDINANCES. ORDINANCE 0526

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THE MOVES ARE, YOU KNOW, MOVE IN AND OUT AROUND. BUT THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS IN KEEPING IDEAS OF WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE SAID THAT WE WANTED TO INTRODUCE. SO WE NEED TO WORK IN THAT LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT MORE BEFORE WE DO IT. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING TO BE TABLED.

SO IT GIVES US A LITTLE MORE TIME TO MAKE THAT REVISION, GET BACK WITH STAFF, MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. SO OKAY, REQUESTING A TABLING FOR THIS EPISODE. I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION IS THAT I KNOW ONCE YOU KNOW, PROCEDURALLY, I KNOW ONCE WE ONCE WE COME BACK, WE GOT TO GO BACK TO THE SECOND READING. SO DOES THAT MAKE SO US TABLING THAT AND NOW DOES THAT AUTOMATICALLY MAKE THE NEXT MEETING OR SECOND MEETING OR NOT. DO WE HAVE TABLING.

THIS WOULD PUT IT TO STILL KEEP IT. THIRD READING AMENDMENT. THE AMENDMENT PROCESS IS WHERE IT WOULD GO BACK TO SECOND READING. AM I CORRECT ON THAT. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE WOULD STILL HAVE EVEN IF WE GO NEXT MEETING WOULD BE WE STILL HAVE TWO MORE AFTER THAT BECAUSE IT'LL KICK.

NEXT MEETING WILL BE AN AMENDMENT AND IT'LL KICK US BACK TO A PUBLIC MEETING. AND THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR THIRD AT THIS POINT, MOVING FORWARD, IF ANY AMENDMENT IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL, THEN THE LEGISLATION GOES BACK TO SECOND READING, PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. IT'LL BE IT'LL BE HAD AT THAT SAME MEETING. OKAY. SO LET'S SAY THE THIS LEGISLATION GETS TABLED TO MARCH 23RD AND YOU HAVE A LIST OF AMENDMENTS, COUNCIL VOTES ON, ON, ON THEM. AND ONE OR MORE OF THEM PASS. THEN THE LEGISLATION GOES BACK TO SECOND READING, PUBLIC HEARING THAT NIGHT ON THE LEGISLATION AS AMENDED. OKAY. AND THEN IT WOULD BE CONTINUED TO THIRD READING AT THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING. YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION. I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT TURNED INTO A PUBLIC MEETING THAT NIGHT, OR WE HAD TO GO TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. SO IT PUSHES BACK UP. SO IF IT TURNS THAT NIGHT, THEN THAT'S ALL. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, ANNOUNCEMENT TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO THAT'S IT OKAY OKAY. THANK YOU COUNCIL. ANY COMMENTS QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM MR. PRESIDENT IF I JUST MIGHT MAKE A REQUEST AS YOU PREPARE THE CHANGE POINTS, WHEN YOU COME TO REVIEW THOSE, WE HAVE KIND OF A PRE AND POST. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRE POST DIAGRAM. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR ON WHAT'S CURRENT CONDITION VERSUS FUTURE CONDITION. SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WALK IT FROM ONE TO TO ANOTHER. SO YEP. THANK YOU SO MUCH OKAY. OTHER COMMENTS QUESTIONS. THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS I WOULD PROBABLY SPEAK ON THE BEHALF OF ALL OF US. WHEN I SAY THAT MY I SPEAK FOR MYSELF, WE APPRECIATE THE TIME AND EFFORT YOU'RE PUTTING INTO THIS TO TRY TO ENHANCE THE DEVELOPMENT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.

BEING THAT THIS WAS PASSED YEARS AGO, THAT REALLY THIS COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, AS CHANGE CONTINUES TO HAPPEN, AS NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ELECTED AND AS NEW MEMBERS ARE PART OF THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, LIFE CHANGES AND EXPECTATIONS CHANGES. SO EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T CHANGE IT TO MORE SO THAN, THAN THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING, I KNOW THAT I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN AND TO TRY TO FIND WAYS TO WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE THE BEST

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MR. BERGER. YES. MR. HUNTER. YES. MRS. TAKACS? YES. MR. REIMS. YES. MRS. YOUNG. YES.

MOTION PASSES. SO BE BACK FOR THIRD READING. VOTE ON MARCH 23RD, SUBJECT TO POTENTIAL

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AND THEN YOU HEAR ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS FROM LOCAL RESIDENTS ABOUT THIS TYPE OF GROWTH. AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY YOU KNOW, THEY WANT YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO PROTECT, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY THEIR COMMUNITY BUT THE BUT THE RESOURCES. SO I JUST I JUST HAVE SOME RESERVATIONS REGARDING, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL OR RESIDENT CONCERN IN THE AREA AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, OUR OBLIGATION TO SERVICE FROM A UTILITY PERSPECTIVE. SO I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT THERE. THANK YOU. WOULD YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF IF YOU IF THIS LEGISLATION WAS TABLED. AND THEN WE CAN HOPEFULLY TRY TO FINALIZE THE WATER USE AGREEMENT, AT LEAST THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT, AND COME TO COUNCIL AND INFORM COUNCIL OF THE TERMS AND AND EXPLAIN HOW WE REACH THAT. YOU KNOW, THE FINAL WATER USAGE NUMBERS, JEREMY, DO YOU WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? YEAH, I'M FINE WITH THAT. THERE HASN'T I HAVEN'T HAD MUCH CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE DEVELOPER. SO I CAN CIRCLE BACK WITH THEM EITHER AS SOON AS THIS AGENDA ITEM GOES THROUGH OR TOMORROW MORNING TO, YOU KNOW, LET THEM KNOW OUR STANCE OR TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON ON THE LANGUAGE INCLUDED WITHIN THAT AGREEMENT.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, SORRY DIDN'T MEAN TO DO THAT. I THINK OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A AN OBLIGATION TO OUR RESIDENTS, TO OUR. TO OUR USERS, TO OUR CONSUMER RIGHT, TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE ABLE TO SERVE AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE UNINTENDED.

CONSEQUENCES FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME DECISIONS THAT THAT WE MAKE MAY BE ILL INFORMED. SO I THINK FOR ME, IF WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT COMPREHENSIVE STUDY AND WE HAVE THAT AGREEMENT IN PLAN OR IN PLACE, AND OUR UTILITY UTILITIES FOLKS ARE, ARE, ARE COMFORTABLE, MAYBE THAT THAT HELPS TO SOME DEGREE. BUT BUT I, I DO THINK WE WE SHOULD MAYBE PUSH THE PAUSE BUTTON AND DO THAT COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS BEFORE WE, WE VENTURE DOWN A PATH THAT WE CAN'T. RETRACT FROM. OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS WHEN I WAS GOING AROUND TO THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, IT WAS MADE VERY CLEAR TO ME TO KEEP DATA CENTERS AWAY. SO WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE DATA CENTERS THAT WE PROBABLY AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE CAPACITY WISE AT THIS POINT. DEAL WITH DATA CENTERS, AND THEN THIS IS COMING THROUGH.

SO I'M GETTING MIXED MESSAGES, AND I DON'T MEAN TO THROW ANYBODY UNDER THE BUS. YEAH. I GUESS FROM A UTILITY CAPACITY STANDPOINT, IF WE WERE TO OFFER THEM 541,000 GALLONS A DAY, I WOULD HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS AND THIS WOULD NOT BE COMING FORWARD AT 40,000 GALLONS A DAY, WHICH IS ABOUT 200 HOMES, WHICH IS PROBABLY HALF OF WHAT WE DO ON A ON A DAILY BASIS. WE'RE TALKING .05 OR 0.5% OF OUR, OUR TOTAL CAPACITY. SO WHEN THE WATER SEWER AGREEMENT IS APPROVED, I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUES WITH THE AMOUNT THAT AT LEAST WE FEEL THAT WE'RE OFFERING THEM. BUT AGAIN, AN OFFER DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING UNTIL EVERYTHING IS SIGNED. SO I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND EITHER, BECAUSE IN THE LAST MEETING, I WAS BEING TOLD THAT REGARDLESS IF WE APPROVED TO GET THIS MONEY FROM THE JEDD, WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO SUPPLY THEM WATER. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. IT CAN BE A SUPPLIED WATER THAT IS WITHIN A THRESHOLD THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH. THAT'S ALL WE'LL DO. WE WON'T EXCEED OUR ABILITY, CAPACITY WISE, TO SERVE A DEVELOPMENT. SO IF THEY CAN'T FIT WITHIN OUR FRAMEWORK, THEN THEY WILL HAVE DIFFICULTY MOVING FORWARD. IF I MAKE I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. SO WHEN I LOOK AT ORDINANCE 0626, IT'S CREATING A DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. SO IT'S IT'S TALKING ABOUT

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THAT'S CORRECT. AND WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSION ABOUT UTILITY CAPACITY AND CONCERN, WHICH I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. AND I DON'T WANT TO COME ACROSS AS BEING WHATSOEVER DISMISSIVE OF THAT, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT OF SENTIMENT IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE REGION ABOUT THAT. BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE, IT IS ABOUT SETTING A BOUNDARY FOR THE JEDD, NOT ABOUT A UTILITY CAPACITY. YES, THERE'S AN INDIRECT RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY VOTING ON, IS MY VIEW ON THIS. IF I IF I MAY, THOUGH.

WHAT IS OUR INVOLVEMENT IN THE APPROVAL OF THE USAGE IN THAT SAID JEDD DISTRICT, THEN I BELIEVE THAT SECTION SEVEN. SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? I BELIEVE THAT SECTION SEVEN IN THE LAST PACKET WE GOT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE WHAT THE REFERENCE IS TO SECTION SEVEN, WHATEVER IT WAS IN THE LAST PACKET. I DIDN'T READ LAST MEETING STUFF. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT WAS? JEREMY, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT TERMINOLOGY WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE WATER AND SEWER UNTIL IT'S IN THE JET. MY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS RELATED TO. USERS AND THE. THE APPROVED.

THE APPROVED USES IN ON ON THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL. HUM. RIGHT. JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF WE YOU'RE AFRAID THAT IF IF WE PASS THIS BASED SOLELY ON, YES, WE WANT THIS DISTRICT IN THE JEDD, THEN WE WON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE UTILITIES. IS YOUR.

JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. THAT'S EXACTLY. THAT'S EXACTLY MY POINT. OR MY WHAT IS OUR OUR HANDS TIED ONCE IT IS PASSED TO ONCE WE APPROVE THIS, IT GOES FORWARD. AND THEN WHATEVER USES IS, IS ALLOWED ON THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL CAN CAN HAPPEN. AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THIS COUNCIL FOR ANY SORT OF APPROVAL. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. LET ME LET ME KNOW IF I'M INCORRECT, MR. EMERY. NO, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN A FACILITY THAT'S INTERESTED IN COMING INTO OUR CITY LIMITS, THAT WE WOULD NEGOTIATE OUR ABILITY TO SERVE AT A PARTICULAR LEVEL, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE. THIS WOULD BE THE SAME THING IF IT'S TOO LARGE OR THE REQUEST IS TOO MUCH FOR OUR ABILITY TO SERVE, THEN WE WON'T SERVE. AND SO THAT'S THEY WILL HAVE TO FIT WITHIN OUR ABILITY AND OUR COUNLMAN WARNER'S POINT, THOUGH, THAT IS MORE OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION, NOT A PIECE OF NOT AN ORDINANCE THAT WE VOTE ON. WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT, TOO, IN REGARDS TO. CREATING A CAPACITY BOARD BEFORE THE SAFETY SERVICE COMMITTEE TONIGHT. AND AND, AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WILL BE A PART OF THAT BOARD MOVING FORWARD AS WELL. SO WHEN WE DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, IT'S A ADMINISTRATIVE CITY COUNCIL DECISION WHETHER WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD OR NOT.

SO IT'S YOU KNOW, I GUESS WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT GOING TO OVERBURDEN OUR SYSTEM WITH THE DEVELOPMENT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW. WE WOULDN'T DO IT, WHETHER IT'S IN OUR CITY LIMITS OR WHETHER IT'S IN THE JET AREA, THEY'LL HAVE TO STAY WITH THEM WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT WE FEEL WE CAN COMFORTABLY PROVIDE. SO, MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE TWO MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE ISSUES HERE. IF, IF WE IF THEY IF YOU APPROVE THIS LEGISLATION AND THEY ENTER THE JET AND WE THEN DETERMINED THAT WE CAN'T SERVE THEM, WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY GET SUED IF WE REJECT THE JET BECAUSE WE CAN'T SERVE THEM. WE MAY ALSO GET SUED. SO THE QUESTION IS, CAN WE ARTICULATE, YOU KNOW, SOUNDLY THE BASIS FOR WHICH WE ARE REFUSING TO SERVE THEM, LIKE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY. AND RIGHT NOW OUR PUBLIC SERVICE DIRECTOR IS SAYING THAT WE DO. SO THAT THAT'S THE I THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE. AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH I THINK THE IDEA OF OF MOVING THIS FORWARD OR CONTINUING OR TABLING IT FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS UNTIL WE CAN GET THIS WATER USAGE AGREEMENT IN PLACE, BUT THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE, YOU KNOW, DISTINCT ISSUES AND, AND, BUT BUT AGAIN,

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DECISION POINT. SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TABLE THIS UNTIL WE HAVE ALL OF THE DATA POINTS, SO WE CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ON ON BEHALF OF, YOU KNOW, MARYSVILLE, OUR UTILITY SERVICES, AS WELL AS AS THE, AS THE, AS THE JET. THAT'S MY VIEWPOINT. I WAS JUST GOING TO HOW LONG HOW LONG CAN WE TABLE THIS FOR? BECAUSE IT MAY BE LONGER PERIOD OF TIME THAT THEY THAT WE WILL HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ERIC CAN WE TWO MEETINGS. SO IF WE GO TO THE FIRST MEETING IN APRIL THAT GIVES US FIVE WEEKS. YES. OKAY. OKAY. WE DO. YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING TO SIMPLY MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE UNDER THE CLARIFICATION THAT THEY, IN 2024, ASKED FOR 541,000 GALLONS A DAY. AND WE HAVE COME BACK TO THEM WITH THE AGREEMENT FOR WE CAN PROVIDE YOU 40 AND WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THEM TO SIGN THAT AGREEMENT. THEY THEY ALSO HAVE A LETTER FROM US IN MARCH OF 2024 THAT SAYS 40 SEEMS REASONABLE. OBVIOUSLY THE WATER SEWER AGREEMENT DID NOT EXIST AT THAT TIME, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO MEMORIALIZE.

AND AGAIN, THAT 40,000 GALLONS WAS FACTORED IN TO THE WATER MODELING THAT WAS PART OF THE WATER MASTER PLAN THAT WE JUST THAT COUNCIL JUST ADOPTED SIX MONTHS AGO OR LAST YEAR SOMETIME. OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, SINCE WE DID JUST PASS THAT WATER MASTER PLAN, MAYBE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED A REFRESHER ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT SAYS IN TERMS OF OUR CAPACITY, BECAUSE FROM WHAT I RECALL, WE HAVE THAT CAPACITY. BUT MAYBE WE DO HAVE SOME NEW MEMBERS ON COUNCIL. MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE A QUICK SUMMARY ON THAT AS WELL.

YEAH. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? I, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE COMMENT THAT THE CONVERSATIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE HAVING, HAVING ABOUT QUOTE UNQUOTE, DATA CENTERS AND DATA CENTERS. THE REALITY IS, IS THAT MARYSVILLE STILL HAS NOT BUILT ONE YET, AND THEY'RE ALL IN JEROME TOWNSHIP. AND WE SUPPLY EVERYTHING TO COSTCO. SO WE SUPPLY THE WATER ALL THE WAY DOWN UNTIL COSTCO. SO NONE OF THAT WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN BUILT IF THE COUNTY DIDN'T MAKE MARYSVILLE THE UNION COUNTY WATER SUPPLIER. SO THAT'S HOW THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS. THAT'S HOW ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN ABLE TO BE BUILT, BECAUSE WE LEGALLY HAVE TO PROVIDE WATER. SO IF RESIDENTS DON'T WANT JEROME TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO BUILD DATA CENTERS, WHAT WE COULD DO IS YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, REMOVE THEIR ABILITY TO BE A TOWNSHIP. THEN IT WOULD BE CITY CONTROLLED, WHICHEANS THAT IT WOULD BE ALL OF US, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE OUR ROADS. WE'D HAVE TO MAINTAIN, WE'D HAVE TO DO ALL OF THAT, WHICH THE INCOME TAX, AS CURRENTLY STANDS, WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO SUPPLY IT. SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION, A LOT, AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO CREATE LOGICAL STATEMENTS ON, ON, ON DIFFERENT MEDIA OUT THERE. BUT IF THERE'S BUT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO JUST GIVE THAT BASIC INFORMATION. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BURGER. SO WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION. THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS REGARDING POTENTIAL TO TABLE THIS FOR A DATE. CERTAIN I DON'T KNOW IF WE LANDED ON A DATE AS TO WHAT THAT WOULD BE. WELL, I THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST MEETING IN APRIL AND THERE'S FIVE WEEKS IN MARCH, SO THAT GIVES US FIVE WEEKS. YEAH. I'M SORRY, THERE ARE FIVE, FIVE MONDAYS IN MARCH. SO WE GET AN EXTRA MONDAY, APRIL 13TH. SO THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT TABLING TILL APRIL. DATE CERTAIN APRIL 13TH.

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COUNCIL. I THINK. I THINK IT'S FAIR TO ASK ABOUT THE UTILITIES ON ALL OF THESE. YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A CONCERN, IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE ON ALL OF THESE. DO WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT ON THIS ONE? THIS ONE, IN MY OPINION, WOULD BE BELOW ANY THRESHOLD. WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT THE DETAILS, BUT BASED ON PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC SERVICE THAT WE JUST CAME FROM, I THINK WE'RE DEBATING BETWEEN 100,000 GALLONS A DAY AND 50,000, POSSIBLY AS A MINIMUM, AS DISCUSSED DURING PUBLIC SAFETY PUBLIC SERVICE. THIS MAY BE AN ITEM THAT WOULD SHOW UP ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION FOR ALL OF COUNCIL TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK. IF IF IT'S NOT IN APRIL, IT WOULD BE IN MAY. I AM NOT SURE WHAT A GAS STATION DOES, BUT I WOULD SAY IT'S GOING TO BE AROUND 5000 GALLONS A DAY. THAT THRESHOLD WOULD TRIGGER THE NECESSITY OF FORMAL APPROVAL.

CAN I SAY JUST A QUESTION, SIR? YOU SAID THIS PARTICULAR. AREA, THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL IS THE TOPIC SPECIFIC FOR WORK SESSION NEXT WEEK OR IN GENERAL IN GENERAL? YEAH, THE UTILITY CAPACITY BOARD. AND WHEN THESE WATER SEWER AGREEMENTS APPLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THAT THRESHOLD OF VOLUME OF WATER REQUESTED FROM THE CITY NOT SPECIFIC TO THIS. NOT SPECIFIC TO OKAY. DID I DID I HEAR 100,000 TO 50,000. 100 IS WHAT WE PRESENTED ON ANYTHING BELOW 100 COULD BE, I GUESS, ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL. BUT I KNOW THERE WERE SOME CONVERSATIONS. COUNCILMAN BURGER ASKED, WELL, HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THAT NUMBER? AND IT WAS JUST BASED ON, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY USERS THAT WE HAVE THAT FIT THAT CRITERIA. SO, YOU KNOW, 50,000, WHICH THE YOU KNOW, IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL WITH THE PREVIOUS ITEM WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, FIT WITHIN THAT UNLESS IT'S USAGE WOULD OR IT'S SORRY IT'S USE WOULD. I GUESS THAT'S RAISING KIND OF A CONCERN FOR ME BECAUSE WE JUST TABLED A. A PROPOSAL FOR WHAT I BELIEVE WAS 40,000. THIS ITEM OR WHATEVER WE'RE PROPOSING IS GOING TO INVOLVE A CODE CHANGE THAT YOU GUYS OR, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE. SO THIS IS ALL DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW.

NOTHING'S NOTHING'S OFFICIAL, MR. PRESIDENT. YES. GO AHEAD. I THINK THERE'S SOME CONFUSION BETWEEN LIKE THREE DIFFERENT NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT. SO IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, WE THINK A GAS STATION MIGHT YOU LIKE IN THIS SITE MIGHT USE ABOUT 5000 GALLONS A DAY. BUT THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION THAT WE WANT TO CREATE A UTILITY BOARD THAT WOULD REVIEW THINGS AT SOME THRESHOLD, WHETHER IT'S 100,000 GALLONS A DAY OR 50,000 GALLONS A DAY, THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE WORKED OUT. CORRECT. BUT THIS PARCEL YOU THINK IS AROUND 5000 JUST. YEAH, JUST A GUESS. YEP. OKAY. OKAY. FURTHER COMMENTS QUESTIONS. SO AGAIN, AS IT'S LISTED TONIGHT THIS IS THE THIRD READING WHICH IS VOTE. WE WOULD I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO EITHER PASS THE LEGISLATION. IF THERE IS IN TERMS OF POTENTIAL TO TABLE AS WAS DONE ON THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE, IS THERE A TIMELINE CONCERN DIFFERENT FOR THIS ITEM COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM? IS THERE? WELL I DON'T I DON'T THINK THE WATER CAPACITY, THE

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AND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD LOWER IT. SO SO THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE TASKS OF THIS BOARD. SO I GUESS MY FEELING IS, IS IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 5000, 5000 GALLONS A DAY, IT DOESN'T FALL IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS THE POTENTIAL DATA CENTER THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THE LAST PIECE. SO I DON'T THINK TABLING IT IS REALLY NECESSARY. I'M ALIGNED WITH THAT. I JUST WAS ASKING THE QUESTION. YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION. AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THAT. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. I MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION ROLL CALL, MR. BERGER. YES, YES. MR. HUNTER.

YES. MRS. TAKACS? YES. MR. REAMES. YES. MRS. YOUNG. YES. MR. BORDNER. YES. MR. WOLFF.

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OKAY. COUNCIL, THE ONLY THE ONLY THING I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR IS THE THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THIS IS BECAUSE IT'S AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN JEROME TOWNSHIP AND THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE TO DIVIDE THE INCOME TAX. SO IT'S SHARED INCOME. SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S AN OVERLAY MAP AND THAT'S WHY THIS IS HERE. GO AHEAD I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. SO IT IS IT THIS AREA. AND THIS AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS A A GEOGRAPHICAL AREA THAT WE EXPECT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR. AND WHERE THERE'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY, LEVERAGING AN INCOME TAX DOES DOES A LOT TO SUPPORT FIRE SERVICE, POLICE SERVICE, ROADS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE. INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE BASIS OF THE JEDD. IT ALLOWS THEM TO THEN TAX THIS AREA, THESE BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOCATING HERE SO THAT ESSENTIALLY WE'RE PAYING FOR THE THAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES THERE, THEY'RE PAYING FOR THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT THE BURDEN IS PUT ON THOSE THAT ARE APPLYING TO BE THERE. THE BENEFIT, YES TO THE CITY IS A PORTION OF THEN THAT THAT TAX THAT WE CAN USE ALSO TO SERVE OUR, OUR RESIDENTS HERE. SO THERE'S BENEFIT. AND LIKE JUST TO MY POINT EARLIER IT'S WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT ADDING THESE DISTRICTS, WHICH IS IN LINE WITH KIND OF WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD DO AS, AS NEW PROPERTIES IN THIS TARGETED GEOGRAPHIC AREA WERE TO COME IN. WE'RE WE'RE ALIGNING WITH OUR INTENT, WHICH IS TO EXPAND THAT BOUNDARY, INCLUDE CERTAIN PARCELS. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, COUNCIL MEMBERS? OKAY, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. I MAKE. GO AHEAD. MR. REAMES MOVED. WE HAVE A MOTION ROLL CALL, MR. HUNTER. YES. MRS. PACKAGE. YES. MR. REAMS. YES. MRS. YOUNG. YES. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLFF YES.

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MRS. YOUNG. YES. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLFF YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES.

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COUNCIL. MR. PRESIDENT, JUST A REMINDER FOR JUST GENERAL AWARENESS, THIS IS A AN ACQUISITION OF OF ONE FACILITY. RIGHT. SO ANY SORT OF AGREEMENT OR WE'LL JUST BE TRANS TRANSITIONED. IT HAS ZERO BEARING ON. THE CURRENT SITUATION OTHER THAN A NAME CHANGE. SO BLUE SHIRT RED SHIRT I GUESS SWAPPING SHIRTS. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. OKAY. THIS WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING

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AND WHILE WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS, WE FIGURED, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE HECK, JUST THROW LEAVES IN THERE AGAIN, NOT LEAVES ALONG THE CURB, BUT LEAVES THAT ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROADWAY. SO IN SUMMARY, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT. SO IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF THOSE. OKAY. WE ARE AT SECOND READING. SO CITIZENS ANY CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC AND A GOOD INTRO THERE BY MISTER HOYT KIND OF EXPLAINED THE BACKGROUND. ANY CITIZENS WILLING TO SPEAK TONIGHT? COUNCIL. MISTER PRESIDENT, I'LL I'LL GO AGAIN. MISTER HOYT. SORRY, IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY. I HAD BROUGHT UP AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING THE CONCERN OF, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND PUSHING, YOU KNOW, PILES OF SNOW INTO PUBLIC ROADS. THE RISK THAT THAT CREATES FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY POINT OF VIEW. BUT I ALSO THINK WE DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE ANY SORT OF LIKE, GOVERNANCE GUARDRAILS ON, YOU KNOW, LEAVES AND LAWN CLIPPINGS THAT ARE PUT INTO THE THE ROADWAY, LIKE, DO WE HAVE A DEFINITION OF EXCESS OR IS IT COMMON SENSE? I JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT AT LEAST WAS CONTEMPLATED IN, IN THE TEXT. THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, TO ELIMINATE SOME AMBIGUITY AND SUBJECTIVITY IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE CODE. YEAH. AND I GUESS CHIEF BROOKS CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THIS SEEMS LIKE IT'S INTENTIONAL. LOOKING TO DO HARM SEEM TO BE TONY'S DEFINITION OF IT ON HOW WE'D ENFORCE IT FROM A POLICE STANDPOINT. ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD KIND OF OUT OF THE BOX ON THIS IS WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE IS A PILE OF LEAVES PILED UP IN THE STREETS, AND SOME KID DECIDE THAT'S THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PLAY IN THE LEAVES AND THEN, UNFORTUNATELY, GET HIT BY A VEHICLE THAT IS NOT AWARE OF SOMEONE IN THERE. OR ANOTHER OPTION IS YOU PUT SOME KIND OF VERY LARGE, HEAVY

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AND SO WE HAD, YOU KNOW, HIGHER RATES ON THE THE FRONT END OF THE CURVE. AND NOW THAT IS COMPLETELY SHIFTED. AND SO I THINK WE'VE GONE FROM ABOUT A, YOU KNOW, A 3 TO 4% SAVINGS.

NOW WE'RE UP OVER SEVEN, EIGHT IN TRUE DOLLARS. THIS IS ABOUT A FIVE. I'LL GIVE YOU THE EXACT NUMBER. AND THESE ARE ALL ESTIMATES ABOUT $5.3 MILLION IN SAVINGS TODAY, ABOUT $2.3 MILLION NET PRESENT VALUE. SO WITH THIS WE'RE ABLE TO TO SHORTEN THE DEBT, SAVE SOME EVEN MORE MONEY AND PAY THIS OFF IN TEN YEARS SHORTER THAN WHAT THIS PARTICULAR BOND IS OUT THERE FOR. YOU DO HAVE OTHERS OUT THERE FOR THE SEWER SYSTEM THAT ARE ABLE TO BE REFINANCED AND THOSE, YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO WATCH THEM, BUT THEY DON'T MAKE SENSE RIGHT NOW.

AND SO YOU REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU TRY TO TIME THESE AT THE RIGHT AS BEST YOU CAN.

LOOKING IN THE FUTURE, IF WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH RATES, BUT WE TRY TO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN TIME IT THE RIGHT TIME, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SAVINGS YOU HAVE AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE. SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW MATT'S HERE FOR ANY LEGAL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND MAYBE AN INTRODUCTION. AND HE MADE THE EXCUSE ME, THE LAWYER GOES SECOND SO I COULDN'T HOG THE MICROPHONE. BUT I'M MATT STOUT WITH BRICKER. GREAT. AND WYATT FORMERLY BRICKER AND ECKLER AND THEN BRICKER GRADEN. LIKE ANDY, I'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY FOR 27 YEARS, AND OUR FIRM HAS WORKED WITH THE CITY FOR FAR LONGER THAN THAT. ANDY AND I ACTUALLY MET AT A MEETING FOR THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE IN JANUARY OF 2000, AND WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY EVER SINCE. LEGALLY, ANDY COVERED KIND OF THE BASES. WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS A LONG SENTENCE RUN ON SENTENCE THAT COVERS EVERYTHING. YOU CAN ISSUE UP TO $32,200,000 OF BONDS. YOU COULD ISSUE LESS THAN THAT. THESE GUYS WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND DETERMINE WHAT THE MOST ECONOMIC AMOUNT IS. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ISSUE MORE DEBT THAN IS NECESSARY TO SAVE YOU MONEY, RIGHT. SO THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, HEY, IF THIS THIS DEBT'S NOT GOING TO SAVE MONEY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO REFUND THAT DEBT. WE'RE JUST GOING TO REFUND WHAT'S GOING TO SAVE YOU MONEY. THE REST OF THIS IS YOU'VE GOT HOME RULE POWER TO ISSUE THIS DEBT UNDER THE CONSTITUTION. THAT'S WHAT THAT CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION IS.

AND THEN IT TALKS ABOUT A FIFTH SUPPLEMENTAL TRUST INDENTURE. THAT'S A LONG DOCUMENT, ACTUALLY A SHORTER DOCUMENT BECAUSE IT'S A SUPPLEMENT. BUT THE LONG DOCUMENT THAT ACTUALLY SECURES THE BONDS THAT PARTIES THAT YOU ENTER INTO WITH A BANK TRUSTEE THAT SAYS THAT THE SEWER REVENUES THAT COME IN ARE GOING TO BE USED TO PAY THAT DEBT OFF. SO THAT'S A SHORT FORM OF WHAT THAT ACTUALLY SAYS. AND OF COURSE, DECLARING AN EMERGENCY, WE'RE DOING AN EMERGENCY HERE BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET INTO THE MARKET TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE INTEREST RATES. SO YOU CAN SAVE THE OVER $5 MILLION THAT ANDY MENTIONED. SO THANK YOU. COUNCIL QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. MR. BORDNER, I THINK SAVING $5.3 MILLION IS A PRETTY GOOD THING OVERALL AND PAYING OFF DEBT. AND IN TEN YEARS IN ADVANCE IS A REALLY GOOD THING. SO I'M I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS LEGISLATION FOR SURE. THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU TWO AGAIN. WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER FOR A LONG TIME. I ACTUALLY RAN INTO ONE OF THE OTHER GUYS WE WORKED WITH WHEN WE HAD TO GO UP TO CHICAGO, LIKE A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, I RAN IN ONE OF THE OTHER GUYS.SOT YOU KNOW, THIS IS GREAT TO BE ABLE TO SAVE SOME MONEY ON OUR ON OUR BORROWING. IT'S IT'S GOOD TIMING FOR US. AND WE HAD WE HAD HOPED TO DO THIS LIKE YOU MENTIONED I THINK A COUPLE YEARS AGO. THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY NOW. HOPEFULLY IT WORKS OUT. HOPEFULLY THE MARKETS DON'T GET CRAZY IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. YEAH. AT THAT POINT YOU KNOW WE'RE WE'RE AT THAT 7% SAVINGS RANGE. SO YOU KNOW AS WE CAN CONVERSE WITH BRAD AND AND TERRY IF THINGS CHANGE YOU KNOW WE THERE'S NO RUSH TO THIS. BUT THE RUSH IS THE THE THE REASON FOR THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE, AS MATT STATED, WAS TO GET THIS PASSED SO WE CAN HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. I'M GOING TO JUST BREAK THIS DOWN. I PURCHASED MY FIRST HOME.

I BELIEVE THE INTEREST RATE WAS 6.75. FAST FORWARD A FEW YEARS. I RECALL PEOPLE REFINANCING THEIR HOUSE AT 2.25%, WHICH IS LIKE UNHEARD OF. MAYBE AT THIS MOMENT. I HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING

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SO FIRST I WILL I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADD AN EMERGENCY CLAUSE TO THIS. SO MOVED. SO WE HAVE A MOTION ROLL CALL MR. REAMES. YES. MRS. YOUNG YES. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLFF YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MRS. TAKACS YES. MOTION CARRIES. AND THEN NEXT WOULD BE I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO WAIVE THE THIRD READING. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THIRD READING. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION ROLL CALL, MRS. YOUNG. YES. MR. BORDNER. YES.

MR. WOLFF. YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER YES. MRS. TAKACS YES. MR. REAMES YES. MOTION PASSES.

SO THIS WILL BE BACK FOR SECOND READING, PUBLIC HEARING AND VOTE ON MARCH 23RD, 2026. MR. PRESIDENT, IF I COULD, I JUST WANT TO THANK ANDY AND MATT FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TO THIS CITY FOR FOR THE NUMBER OF YEARS THEY'VE BEEN ON THERE, I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THEM FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS, AND IT'S JUST BEEN AND THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO. AND AND I CAN'T THANK THEM ENOUGH. AND JUST AS YOU SAY, IT'S A OVER $5 MILLION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. SO THANK YOU GUYS. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. APPRECIATE IT. ORDINANCE 20-26

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WE THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO, AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING THIS AMENDMENT, TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE STREET TREE FEE AND THE ORIGIN OF IT AND HOW IT'S PERFORMED. THIS DOES WORK, HOW IT'S PERFORMED OVER THE YEARS. SO IT'S BEEN ALMOST TEN YEARS SINCE 2017. SO IT'S BEEN NINE YEARS, ALMOST NINE YEARS, I GUESS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT CLOSE TO A DECADE SINCE ITS INCEPTION, AND WE'VE STARTED COLLECTING THE REVENUES FROM THE STREET TREE FEE. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION IS TO SORT OF, LIKE I SAID, GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE AS WELL AS SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE WITH THAT MONEY AS WELL.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY LEADING TO A RECOMMENDATION TO AMEND CHAPTER 1100 TO $11 PER LINEAL FOOT FROM THE ORIGINAL SEVEN OVER A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS. AND THE REASON TO DO THAT IS TO HELP OFFSET A LOT OF THE INFLATIONARY COSTS WE'VE HAD OVER THE YEARS, AS WELL AS CONTINUE TO CONTINUE TO BRING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF STREET TREES, PUT IN A NEW DEVELOPMENTS ONTO THE DEVELOPER, AND KEEP THAT OFF THE BURDEN OF THE TAXPAYER FROM THE GENERAL FUND AS WELL. SO ORIGINALLY, IN 2017, THE STREET TREE FEE WAS ADOPTED TO ESTABLISH AN URBAN FORESTRY PROGRAM. AND WE'VE SUCCESSFULLY DONE THAT. IN 2017, IT WAS ADOPTED. AND THEN 2018 I WAS HIRED AS THE CITY'S FIRST URBAN FORESTER. AND THEN 2020, WE DID A COMPLETE STREET TREE INVENTORY TO KIND OF GAUGE OUR ASSETS AND SEE WHAT WE HAD TO DO TO MANAGE THEM, AND REALLY SEE WHAT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT THAT WE WERE EMBARKING ON WAS GOING TO GOING TO BE IN 2021. WE STARTED TO PUT THAT INTO ACTION, DEVELOPING PREVENTATIVE PRUNING PROGRAMS TO MITIGATE RISK ON THE STREETS AND ESTABLISH MORE OF A SUSTAINABLE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.

WE HIRED AN URBAN FORESTRY TECH IN 2022 AND THEN 2025, WE BEGAN LOOKING AT AT THE STREET TREE PROGRAM FROM A MORE HOLISTIC STANDPOINT WITH SOME CONSULTANTS, AND ADOPTED THE URBAN FORESTRY STRATEGIC PLAN IN 2025 LAST YEAR. SO THE IMPACT TO DATE, WE'VE GENERATED ALMOST 1.5 MILLION IN REVENUE. THAT'S MONEY THAT'S BEEN COLLECTED FROM NEW DEVELOPMENT AND NOT EXISTING TAXPAYERS. SO PUTTING ALL THAT INFORMATION ON THE FINANCIAL CHART FROM 2017,

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SO THE URBAN FORESTRY PLAN RECOMMENDED A FIVE YEAR CATCH UP PERIOD BETWEEN NOW AND 2030.

AND THIS IS JUST A QUICK PROJECTION OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. SO THE RECOMMENDATION OBVIOUSLY THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE WHOLE PROGRAM, BUT SOMETHING TO HELP SUSTAIN AND OFFSET THE COSTS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE TAKE IT TO $11 PER LINEAL FOOT BY 2028. AND AS AN EXAMPLE, ON A 60 FOOT LOT THAT WOULD COVER ABOUT OR THAT WOULD COST THAT LOT ABOUT $660, WHICH IS $246 MORE THAN WHAT IT COSTS NOW. SO THAT'S THE IMPACT. SO AS I SAID, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING THE BURDEN OF ESTABLISHING NEW TREES ON THE DEVELOPERS AND THE GROWTH THAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING, AND NOT THE RESIDENTS AND THE EXISTING RESIDENTS THEMSELVES.

AND WE WANT TO RECOVER THOSE ESTABLISHMENT COSTS. AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT IT'S NOT A FULL FUNDING SOLUTION. SO I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE'VE BROUGHT IN ABOUT 1.5 MILLION IN REVENUE SINCE 2017. THIS INCREASE IS ABOUT 57% HIGHER THAN THAT, AND IT WOULD BRING IN ABOUT 900,000 MORE. IN ADDITION, OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS OR SO. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM OR THAT'S IT. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. QUESTIONS? COMMENTS.

COUNCILMEMBER I JUST HAVE A COUPLE GENERAL QUESTIONS. ONE IS SO WE'VE WE'VE GOT ABOUT 1.8 MILLION, 1.5 MILLION IN REVENUE OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS AT $7 A TREE BASICALLY, RIGHT. YEAH.

YOU'RE LOOKING TO GET TO 11 WITHIN THE NEXT 5 OR 3 YEARS. THREE YEARS TO 2028, OKAY, 2028.

AND THEN THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS 25 PER TREE. WHAT WAS THE PER CAPITA NUMBER THAT YOU WERE

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DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THE BOTTOM BAR AND THE TOP BAR? SO I WAS JUST ILLUSTRATING THAT EVEN THOUGH OVER THE YEARS, THE GAP BETWEEN THE REVENUE THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN FROM THE STREET TREE FEE AND OUR ACTUAL BUDGET AND EXPENDITURES IS GROWING A LITTLE BIT, AND NOT ONLY IS IT GROWING, IT'S EXPECTED TO GROW A LITTLE BIT MORE BASED ON WHAT THE THE RECOMMENDATION WAS IN THE THE STRATEGIC PLAN. AND FOR MY GENERAL KNOWLEDGE AND FOR THE PUBLIC, OUR EXPENSE IS WE'VE GOT TO MAINTAIN THOSE TREES, RIGHT? YES. IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE STREET TREES, THEY NEED TO BE MAINTAINED WELL AND IN A SUSTAINABLE WAY. SO THEY DON'T POSE A RISK TO THE PUBLIC. RIGHT. IN A BURDEN. YEAH. AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT A DEFICIT.

YEAH. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD. DEFICIT JUST MEANS GENERAL FUNDS COVERING THAT GAP OR THAT GAP. YEAH. GENERAL FUND OPERATING IN A DEBT WOULD NOT LET US OPERATE IN A DEFICIT.

BUT THAT'S JUST SHOWING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE BRINGING IN FROM DEVELOPMENT AND THEN WHAT THE GENERAL FUNDS PAY. SO YOU SAID PER TREE AND NOT PER LINEAR FOOT. YEAH. AND JUST THE $11 WOULD BE, I THINK IN THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE LANGUAGE IT'S PER PER FOOT. SO IT'S THE FRONTAGE THAT EACH PROPERTY HAS TO THE TO THE RIGHT OF WAY. OKAY. WELL YOU SAID PER TREE SO. OH I'M SORRY. YEAH THAT'S WHAT I SAID. SORRY. IT'S ON YOUR FOOT. YEAH. I DON'T PRESUME YOU PUT TWO TREES IN. YEAH. ON, ON AVERAGE ON A 60 FOOT LOT. HOW MANY TREES DO WE PLANT? THERE'S ROUGHLY ONE PER 50 FOOT. SO THERE WOULD BE ABOUT ONE TREE PER 60 FOOT LOT.

YEAH. WHAT'S THE NEW CODE YOU GUYS JUST VOTED THAT IN I THINK I THINK WE ADDED DIDN'T WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T WE ADD MORE TREES TO THE STREET, TO THE TO WHAT A DEVELOPER COMPLAINT I THINK THAT WAS FOR PRIVATE PRIVATE INSTALLATIONS. OH OKAY. YEAH. NOT IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. YEAH THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. SO FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE I ANDY NOT ONLY MAINTAINS THE STREET TREE FUND, BUT HE ALSO MAINTAINS ALL THE TREES IN THE PARK. SO BEFORE ANDY WAS HIRED, WE NEVER REALLY HAD ANYBODY THAT MAINTAINED TREES IN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. THE STREET DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY TOOK CARE OF THE TREES IN THE STREETS. BUT THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH TOWN, THERE'S A LOT OF STREETS LIKE MAPLE COLLINS, EIGHTH STREET, NINTH STREET, AND AND ALSO IN NEWER HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS WHERE THERE IS NO TREES AT ALL. GREENWOOD COLONY IS A PRIME EXAMPLE. THERE'S NOT A SINGLE STREET TREE. WIRE STREET TREES IS IMPORTANT. THEY ADD VALUE TO A COMMUNITY. THEY AND IN SO, SO MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS, BUT ALSO MAYOR'S IDENTITY. WE USED TO BE KNOWN AS THE SHADED CITY AND THAT'S WHAT WAS OUR CLAIM TO FAME. SO THE COUNCIL CAME TOGETHER AND WE SAID YEARS AGO BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL, BUT I WAS AN ADVOCATE. SO WHEN I WAS ON BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL AND I WROTE A PAPER ABOUT THIS, COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE LIKE, OKAY, DONNY, YOU, YOU DO IT, BUT THEN YOU GO FIND MONEY HOW TO DO IT. AND THAT'S HOW REALLY THE $7 A LINEAR FOOT, BECAUSE IT WAS WITH MIKE AND DRACO AND AND CHAD FLOWERS AND ALL OF THOSE. AND THEN WE GOT THIS STARTED.

AND THEN THE ISSUE WAS IT STAYED STAGNANT FOR SO LONG. AND AS OUR COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO GROW AND AS WE PLANT MORE TREES AND LET ME REMIND YOU, WE'RE NOT PLANTING MORE TREES BECAUSE THE CITY IS GROWING. WE'RE PLANTING MORE TREES BECAUSE THE OAKS AND THE PARKS ARE COMING TO AN AGE WHERE THEY'RE DECLINING THE THE EMERALD ASH BORER, YOU KNOW, NOW YOU HAVE SO MANY DISEASES THAT ARE KILLING OUT THE WHITE PINES AND THE BLUE SPRUCES AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS. SO THERE'S SO MUCH MORE MONEY BEING PUT INTO INTO THE ENVIRONMENT NOW BECAUSE YOUR ENVIRONMENT IS RAPIDLY CHANGING. SO FOR INSTANCE, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE LIKE BEXLEY AND UPPER ARLINGTON AND DUBLIN, WHO HAS PUT BEXLEY IS VERY THICK IN A TREE CANOPY, BUT A LOT OF THOSE TREES ARE AT AN AGE WHERE THEY'RE DECLINING. THEY'RE A MAXIMUM OF 100, 150 YEARS OLD. SO BEXLEY IS GOING TO BE PLANTING A LOT OF TREES OVER

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THE I DON'T KNOW, SEE HONDA CRV AND THE THE CADILLAC COUPE. YOU KNOW, WHICH ONE IS THIS. SO SO THIS SLIDE HERE, THE SLIDE YOU'RE REFERRING TO HAD TWO OTHER LINES ABOVE AND BELOW THAT DOTTED GREEN LINE. THE ABOVE WAS THE CADILLAC WHERE YOU KNOW WE'D HAVE BEXLEY OR DUBLIN AT. AND BELOW WE HAD ONE BELOW TWO. THAT WAS MORE WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE IN CITIES LIKE WORTHINGTON AND COLUMBUS ARE AT. SO WHAT WE WANTED TO SAY WAS THOSE WERE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE OPTIONS THAT WE COULD PROVIDE TO YOU AS OPTIONS. DO YOU WANT THIS LEVEL OF SERVICE, THIS ONE OR THIS ONE? THE ONE THAT WAS RECOMMENDED WAS THIS MIDDLE LEVEL OF SERVICE, WHICH WAS ABOUT $25 PER LINEAL FOOT AS A REASONABLE TARGET TO GET TO, OKAY, $25 PER CAP. I'M SORRY, I'M MIXING. I'M MIXING THEM UP. YES, $25 PER CAPITA IS THE TARGET THAT WE'D WANT TO GET TO.

THE BENCHMARKING THAT WAS DONE IS PER CAPITA. SO PER PER RESIDENT IN THE CITY. YES OKAY.

YEP. SO THIS IS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT. SO YOU WANT TO INCREASE THE PRICE AND THEN YOU WANT TO CHARGE TO MAINTAIN THEM. I'M CONFUSED. SO THE ONLY REASON I'M SHOWING THIS SLIDE HERE IS JUST TO ILLUSTRATE THAT WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE WE NOT ONLY ARE WE ALREADY SPENDING MORE THAN WHAT THE STREET TREE FEE IS BRINGING IN IN REVENUE, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO STILL BRING THAT HIGHER. SO THE NEED FOR MORE FUNDING AND MORE CREATIVE FUNDING SOURCES IS PROBABLY FAIRLY, FAIRLY URGENT. YEAH. AT ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION, WHENEVER A NEW HOUSE GOES IN, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PUT IN THE TREE. WE'RE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THOSE. WHY ARE YOU REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THEM? IF THEY'RE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, THEY'RE IN THE TREE LINE. SO EVERYTHING FROM THE SIDEWALK INTO THE ROAD THAT THAT'S A TREE IS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY. BASED ON ANDY'S JOB SINCE 2017? WELL, THAT WOULD EXPLAIN WHY I'M MISSING A TREE. SO. PLUS THE TREES IN THE PARK, IT JUST. IT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. THAT IS NOT OUR, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S IN YOUR BACKYARD. YEAH. YOU KNOW, UP BY YOUR UP BY YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR FRONT DOOR. THOSE ARE NOT OURS. SO YOU'RE EXPECTING DEVELOPERS. NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE ALL THESE ZONING CODE CHANGES THAT INCREASE THE PRICE OF A NEW BUILD, YOU WANT TO ADD MORE COSTS TO DEVELOPERS? AGAIN, THIS FEE HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2017, SO IT'S A FEE THAT THEY'RE USED TO OTHER THAN THE EXTRA DOLLAR 50 PER LINEAL FOOT. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A TREE ISSUE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT WHAT ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING? DID DID ONE OF THE SLIDES SHOW WHAT THEY PAY IN THE CITIES AROUND US? THIS IS A LOT OF NUMBERS. SO I DON'T KNOW I MISS THAT. LIKE IS THAT RIGHT. THE 7 TO $11 COMPARABLE TO WHAT DEVELOPERS PAY IN DUBLIN HILLIARD DELAWARE. LIKE WHAT'S THE NO. THERE ARE A LOT OF CITIES THAT THAT MOST CITIES. AND I HAVE A SLIDE TUCKED INTO THE END. MOST CITIES DON'T.

WHAT'S THAT? YOU DO NOT OH, YOU DIDN'T PUT IT IN THERE. SO MOST CITIES, MOST CITIES THAT WE'VE RESEARCHED AS PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS FUND THEIR URBAN FORESTRY PROGRAMS ALMOST COMPLETELY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR CREATIVE FUNDING SOURCES TO

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AND OH SORRY. GO AHEAD. THAT'S ONLY HALF. SO SOME OF THIS IS A BROKEN RECORD. REAL SIMILAR TO WHAT ANDY HAD TALKED ABOUT. BUT GOING THROUGH OUR PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN, WE REALIZED THE PARKLAND FEE HAD NOT BEEN UPDATED. SINCE I'M GOING TO GO 20 YEARS, I'LL DEFER TO MARK, BUT IT'S SOMEWHERE. SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, IT HAS BEEN THE SAME. THE SAME FLAT RATE. SO AS IT RELATES TO THE PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN, WE HAD A VISION OF A HEALTHY, CONNECTED AND VIBRANT MARYSVILLE WHERE EVERYBODY CAN ENJOY GREAT PARKS, FUN PROGRAMS, MEANINGFUL EXPERIENCES, AND THEN ALSO A MISSION OF CREATING GREAT PARKS AND PROGRAMS THAT BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER, HELP RESIDENTS STAY ACTIVE, AND MAKE MARYSVILLE A SPECIAL PLACE TO LIVE. SO WITH THAT, SOME OF THE GOALS AND STRATEGIES INCLUDED IMPLEMENTING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN TO ENHANCE AND EXPAND PARKS AND FACILITIES. ONE OF THOSE STRATEGIES WAS SEEKING OUT ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES TO ADDRESS AND EXPAND VISIONARY PROJECTS AS IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. SOME OF THOSE INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, THINGS THEY THREW OUT A LEVY THAT WE WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT AT PARKS DISTRICT LEVY, WE DID COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT DID NOT SEEM LIKE THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN OR BE A VIABLE OPTION. YOU KNOW, INCREASED COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS AND USER FEES. BUT THEN THE FUNDING SOURCE THAT WE'VE HAD FOR 20 YEARS IS THE PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT FUND, WHICH ESSENTIALLY OBVIOUSLY COUNCIL CONTROLS WITH THE BUDGET. BUT WE IMPLEMENT WHAT THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION, WHAT THEIR VISION IS. AND REALLY, TO ME, THAT'S THEIR PRIMARY VISION THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE THEIR THEIR WHOLE, I GUESS, THEIR WHOLE RESPONSIBILITY. SO WITH THAT, HERE'S OUR CURRENT FEES. SO CURRENTLY RESIDENTIAL AGAIN THIS IS ALL DEVELOPMENT PAYING FOR DEVELOPMENT. SOME MAY SAY DEVELOPMENT PAYING FOR PARK IMPROVEMENTS ELSEWHERE, BUT IT WOULD ALL BE WITHIN THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE. SO REGARDLESS OF USE, IF YOU LIVE IN A IN A LOCATION, A BRAND NEW APARTMENT, CONDO, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, YOU ARE PAYING $1,000 PER UNIT. SO FOR INSTANCE, A 300 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX COMES IN. THEY PAY THE SAME AS A 300 UNIT OR 300 LOT SUBDIVISION. AND THEN AS IT RELATES TO COMMERCIAL, I AM NOT SURE WHERE THIS EQUATION CAME FROM, BUT IT IS $500 FOR THE FIRST 3000FT■!S. SO ESSENTIALLY A FIVE $500 FOR A MINIMUM. YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING COMMERCIAL, IT'S 500 BUCKS AND THEN $0.07 PER SQUARE FOOT ABOVE 3000. SO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THIS IS FROM JULY OF 2024. I TRIED TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE PATH CONNECTIONS THAT WERE THROWN OUT THERE. AND AGAIN SOME OF THESE ARE ALREADY UNDERWAY. SO TAKE IN MIND THAT IS FROM JULY 2024 AS A PART OF THE AQUATICS AQUATICS WORKING GROUP STUDY, THAT I BELIEVE THIS CAME DIRECTLY FROM A SLIDE THAT WE

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AND AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL BASED OFF SCHEMATICS. NO REAL DESIGN HAS HAD BEEN OR HAS BEEN COMPLETED. REHABILITATING THE LEGION POOL, SCOTT FAMILY PARK, AND SOME UPTOWN ALLEY IMPROVEMENTS. AND AT THE TIME, THESE COST OR THESE PROJECTS TOTALED AROUND $50 MILLION. SO AS IT RELATES, WHAT WE DID WAS WE LOOKED AT OTHER COMMUNITIES AS A COMPARISON, SO GOT INTO THEIR CODE TO SEE HOW THEY CALCULATED THEIR RATES. PROBABLY COULD TAKE THE NEXT STEP TO SEE. YEAH, THIS IS WHAT YOUR CODE SAYS. IS THIS HOW YOU ACTUALLY CALCULATE THEM? BECAUSE IF YOU'LL NOTICE, I CANNOT IMAGINE DUBLIN'S IS THAT HIGH. BUT THEY DID SAY THEY ASSESSED 65,000 AN ACRE REGARDLESS OF WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. SO KEY POINT IS LOOKING AT AVERAGE HIGH AND LOW. AGAIN WE LOOKED AT COMPARABLE COMMUNITIES MARYSVILLE, DELAWARE, DUBLIN, GROVE CITY, HILLIARD, POWELL AND WESTERVILLE. AND THEN I DID MY BEST TO USE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CITY TO SEE WHAT THAT WOULD COST. YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR PARKLAND FEE IS IN MARYSVILLE VERSUS WHAT THAT FEE IS ELSEWHERE. SO WHAT PROPOSING THAT WE RAN BY AND RECEIVED PRELIMINARY APPROVAL FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION IS TO INCREASE THE RESIDENTIAL PER UNIT COST FROM 1000, WHICH IT IS TODAY, TO 1500, IN 2026, 20 2027 AND 2500 IN 2028. WHAT THIS WILL DO, IT WILL HELP US EVENTUALLY BE ABLE TO FUND SOME OF THOSE TRAIL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED. IN REGARDS TO COMMERCIAL, WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT IS ESSENTIALLY HAVING THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES PAY AT A RATE OF ABOUT 50% OF THE RESIDENTIAL RATE. SO THERE'S A COUPLE WAYS TO LOOK AT THIS. I HAD PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY YOU GET FOUR UNITS AN ACRE. SO WAS ABLE TO CALCULATE WHAT THAT FEE SHOULD BE AT A FOUR UNITS PER ACRE RESIDENTIAL RATE. AFTER TALKING WITH ERIC, HE THOUGHT MAYBE THAT COULD BE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT TOO HIGH FOR SOME OF THOSE. SO AGAIN, LOOKING AT MAYBE MORE A MORE REALISTIC DENSITY OF THREE UNITS AN ACRE, WHICH THIS WOULD REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT THROUGH COUNCIL, BUT INSTEAD OF DOING $500 PLUS $0.07 PER PER SQUARE FOOT OF A BUILDING, WE JUST DO IT ON A MUCH SIMPLER PER ACRE CHARGE. AS IT RELATES TO THESE FEES, THESE ARE USUALLY COLLECTED UPFRONT WHEN WHEN A SUBDIVISION GOES TO PLAT. SO OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S A, YOU KNOW, IN COLEMAN'S CROSSING AND THEY DON'T GO TO A PLAT, THEN IT WOULD BE PAID AT THE TIME OF THE OF THE ZONING PERMIT. THE REAL REASON FOR RESIDENTIAL OR I GUESS PAYING MORE THAN COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL IS BECAUSE RESIDENTIAL CREATES PARK USERS. COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DON'T SEEM TO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED THAT TO BE A THRIVING COMMUNITY. BUT THAT'S THAT'S AT LEAST THE REASONING BEHIND WHERE WE WHERE WE GOT TO RIGHT NOW. IT SEEMS LIKE ROUGHLY, I WOULD SAY BUSINESSES PROBABLY PAY 10% OF WHAT RESIDENTIAL DOES ON, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PRETTY COMPLEX EQUATION, BUT AT LEAST IN LOOKING AT IT, THAT'S WHAT IT SEEMED TO BE THERE. THE ONE THING AFTER MEETING WITH MR. BARRICK ON THIS, WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY FOR PARKLAND FEE TO GET A CREDIT. SO IF YOU'RE IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY WANT TO ADD A PARK THAT'S PRIVATELY MAINTAINED, NOT MAINTAINED BY THE CITY AND ADD SOME AMENITIES OR OPEN SPACE, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO RECEIVE UP TO 50% OF A CREDIT. SO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, AND TIM HELPED ME OUT WITH THE VERBIAGE HERE IS 50%. THEY'D HAVE TO GIVE US INVOICES THAT HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY PARKS AND REC, BUT IF THEY ADDED A SWING SET AND THAT COST $100,000, THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET UP TO 50

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WE LOOK AT LAND FIRST AND WHERE PARKS COULD BE BUILT, AND NOT LEFTOVER LAND THAT THE DEVELOPER CANNOT BUILD ON THAT THEY GIVE TO US. I MEAN LAND IF WE WANT. IF WE WANT A COMMUNITY WHERE YOU CAN GET ON YOUR BIKE, THAT'S WHAT WE ALL TALK ABOUT. AND YOU GO FROM EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN MARYSVILLE TO THE UPTOWN, TO EVERYWHERE. YOU WA WANT YOUR PARKS AND PLACES TO BE PLEASANT FOR PEOPLE TO WALK AND BIKE THROUGH THAT PARK. AND I HAVE A I'VE BEEN AT THAT PARK. I'VE BEEN THERE TOO. YEAH, THAT'S ACTUALLY REFERRED TO AS THE YELLOW PLAYGROUND IN MY HOUSE. YEAH. SO IT IS NOT VERY WELL MAINTAINED. YEAH. IT IS LEFTOVER LAND IN AN ODDLY SHAPED AREA WITH NOT A LOT OF TREES, AND IT'S REALLY CLOSE TO THE ROAD, AND IT'S REALLY NOT THAT SAFE. NOW, YOU GUYS AS KIDS PROBABLY GO TO A LOT. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN TO IT WITH ZACH'S ACTUALLY BYPASSED THAT FOR THE GREENWOOD CITY OWNED PARK BECAUSE THAT HAS TINY LITTLE ROCKS THAT GET STUCK IN MY TODDLER'S SHOES. SO IT'S WE DON'T REALLY EVEN USE THAT ONE. YEAH. SO ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT WHEN THE PARKS COMMISSION, WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB WITH LOOKING AT LAND FIRST, IDENTIFYING THE GRAPHIC NATURE OF THE LAND, PRESERVING WHAT NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED, AND THEN BUILD AROUND WHAT WE DEEM IS SHOULD BE PARK SPACE, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. FOR TOO LONG, DEVELOPERS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET BY WITH DOING WHAT THEY'VE DONE, AND THEN THEY GIVE US THE GIVE US THE EXTRA AND WE MILL VALLEY CENTRAL. YOU CAN'T BUILD ANY HOUSES IN THAT. SO THEY'RE LIKE, COOL, TAKE THAT AND COUNT THAT AS OUR DEDICATION. ONE THING I FORGOT WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN, OUR CONSULTANT SAID SIMILARLY SIZED COMMUNITIES THAT THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH ARE WE COULD BE UP IN THE $3,000 RANGE, BUT THAT SEEMED PRETTY HIGH. AND IF YOU'LL SEE A THEME BASED ON ANY OF THE, YOU KNOW, ANY RATES, INCLUDING ANDY STREET TREE, THEY'RE ALL COMING DUE IN 2028 TRASHES AT THE SAME POINT. SO 2028 WILL BE A BIG YEAR, BUT THEY'RE AT LEAST ALL ON THE SAME SCHEDULE SO THAT WE CAN HOLISTICALLY LOOK AT AT ANY OF THOSE RATES AND BE ABLE TO ADJUST ACCORDINGLY AT THAT TIME. BUT THEY'RE ALL OF THEM ARE ALL IN THAT SCHEDULE. MR. PNTSIDENT. YEAH. GO AHEAD. SO YOU MENTIONED IT'S BEEN AT LEAST TEN YEARS SINCE. OH, I WAS THINKING AS I'VE BEEN HERE, 16. SO AT LEAST 16 IS MY

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THAT'S A PARK, SMALL QUARTER ACRE BOULEVARD. IT'S GREEN SPACE. CAN WE LOOK AT CREDITING AND DEFINING THE SPACE THAT'S ACTUALLY USABLE PARK AS OPPOSED TO ALL THE LIKE A RETENTION BASIN? NOT NECESSARILY A PARK. SO COULD WE LOOK AT HOW WE DEFINE WHAT WE CREDIT? WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. THE OUR CATCHALL, AT LEAST IN MY HEAD, WAS THAT IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, SO IF THEY SAY, OH, WE HAVE A 10TH OF AN ACRE HERE, OR, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PARKS THAT ARE IN GREEN PASTURES, WE WE WOULD NOT WANT THOSE TODAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A HALF ACRE AND NOW WE HAVE TO SEND PEOPLE TO MOW IT THERE JUST AS OFTEN AS WE DO. IF WE'RE MOWING, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE MOWING FIVE ACRES. SO I KNOW WE'VE BEEN VERY OR, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TRIED OUR BEST TO BE STRATEGIC ON WHICH PROPERTIES WE WANT TO BE A PARK. IF IT'S JUST FIVE ACRES IN THE MIDDLE OF A FIELD THAT HAS NO CHARACTER, THAT WE DON'T WANT ANY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT ANY PART OF THAT. YOU KNOW, IF IT'S TREES AND THERE COULD BE A TRAIL AND ALL THINGS LIKE THAT, THEN THAT, THAT THERE'S SOME TOPOGRAPHY. THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE INTERESTED IN, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT OUT EAST. I KNOW THERE'S AN EXISTING EXISTING RAILBED OUT THERE. BEAUTIFUL.

SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE VERY EXCITED TO ENTERTAIN THAT AND PROPOSE THAT TO THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION. I THINK MR. REEMS POINT, YOU KNOW, AS I THINK ABOUT THE WEAVER RIDGE. SKETCH PLAN THAT WE SAW LAST, OH, BOY, FALL SUMMER ISH TIMING. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BOULEVARD THAT'S GOING TO COME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE'S LIKE FIVE ACRES IN THE FRONT OFFSET OFF THE ROAD. SO I'D BE INTERESTED TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT THAT CREDIT WOULD LOOK LIKE, GIVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT GREEN SPACE BECAUSE IT'S QUITE A BIT OF GREEN SPACE AT THE FRONT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, SETTING THE HOMES THAT WANTED TO GIVE THAT TO US, BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO MAINTAIN IT. SO I COULD SEE AGAIN, THIS IS MY HEAD. I COULD SEE THAT BEING ELIGIBLE, IF IT IS FIVE ACRES FOR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE POTENTIALLY FOR THAT PRESERVED OPEN SPACE, IF THEY THROW A TRAIL IN THERE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO WHAT WAS ALREADY REQUIRED THAT, YOU KNOW, THEN THAT COULD BE ELIGIBLE. I JUST THINK TO MR. RAINES POINT, WE PROBABLY NEED TO DEFINE WHAT.

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YEAH. I WOULD JUST SAY FROM, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD AT PARKS AND REC AND LOOKING AT THE PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN THAT WE PASSED AND THE COMMENTS THAT I HEAR FROM CITIZENS, FROM PEOPLE THAT I KNOW AND FAMILY, FRIENDS, PEOPLE IN MILL VALLEY, STUFF LIKE THIS THAT BETWEEN THE STREET TREE FUND, THE PARKLAND FUND, INCREASING THESE FEES ARE MUCH NEEDED. YOU KNOW, HAVING WHEN I'VE LIVED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING OUT TO AS MANY PARKS AS I USED TO AND WHEN I WAS A CHILD. BUT WHEN WE LIVED IN TOWN ON ASH STREET, YOU KNOW, WE WE'D GO OVER TO WHAT WE CALLED TREEHOUSE PARK OVER AT ALDERSGATE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'D GO PLAY SOCCER AND BASEBALL DOWN HERE AND WE'D GO UP TO CITI FIELD AND HAVE BASEBALL GAMES THERE, UP TO THE PARKS IN MILL VALLEY. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THESE FEES ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BROUGHT INTO THESE AREAS, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT MARYSVILLE NORTH, MARYSVILLE EAST, THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HAPPENING AROUND TOWN. YOU KNOW, MAYBE MAYBE THEY HAVE A DEDICATED PARK IN THAT AREA THAT THEY THEY MAINTAIN THEMSELVES AND THEY GET SOME KIND OF CREDIT OR MONEY BACK ON. BUT BUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE ARE ALSO GOING TO GO TO THE OTHER PARKS THAT ARE AROUND TOWN. THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE TRAILS THAT WE WANT TO PUT IN. AND THIS IS AN ANSWER, AT LEAST PART OF AN ANSWER TO THE DESIRE THAT RESIDENTS HAVE FOR IMPROVED PARKLAND. YOU KNOW, MORE TRAILS, MORE CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT MARYSVILLE. AND IT ALLOWS US TO, YOU KNOW, USE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT DOES COME IN TO BENEFIT EXISTING RESIDENTS. NO, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. A MAJORITY OF THE FUNDS WITHIN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FOR PARKLAND IS GOING OUT TO SCOTT FAMILY PARK. SO AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE REGIONAL BENEFITS THAT WE CAN SHOW, HEY, WE THIS IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE USING THIS NOT WE'RE NOT USING IT TO FIX A HOLE IN A ROOF OR, OR THINGS LIKE THAT. THIS IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, BENEFICIAL INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE PARK SIDE THAT THAT ALL RESIDENTS CAN USE. THANK YOU, MR. HOYT. I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION. I APOLOGIZE THAT THEY'RE CUTTING YOU, PERHAPS CUTTING YOU OFF THERE. BUT WE GOT TO HEAR I WAS FINE. WE GOT TO HEAR ABOUT DONALD. YOU KNOW, PASSING THROUGH THE HOA PARK BARRIER. THEY'RE BREAKING THE RULES. JUST JUST JOKING THERE, DON.

[COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL PERSONS AND GENERAL DISCUSSION]

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MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL PERSON. MRS. YOUNG I'M GOOD TONIGHT. GOOD TONIGHT. MR. REIMS I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. MR. HACKETT. I JUST FOR THOSE WHO DIDN'T OR WEREN'T TUNED IN FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING AND THE PRESENTATION WITH MAIN STREET, MARYSVILLE, JUST WANTED TO RESTATE THE DATES OF SOME UPCOMING STUFF UPTOWN. OF THAT, THE STATE OF THE UPTOWN, HOSTED BY MAIN STREET, IS ON MARCH 19TH AT THE AVALON. IF YOU WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH OUR UPTOWN AND EVENTS AND PLANNING FOR THINGS HAPPENING UP THERE, IT'S A GREAT WAY TO KICK IT OFF AND GET INVOLVED WITH THAT. AND THEN SATURDAY, MARCH 21ST, BRING YOUR KIDS AND YOUR FAMILIES. IT'S THE UPTOWN EGG SCRAMBLE. THERE WILL BE DIFFERENT AGE DIVISIONS OF A LITTLE EGG HUNT ACROSS THE STREET, OVERTHE GREEN SPACE, AND ALL THE UPTOWN BUSINESSES WILL BE OPEN AND READY FOR A LITTLE GOLDEN EGG SURPRISE AS WELL. SO THAT'S MARCH 21ST AT 10 A.M. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, MR. BORDNER. I'LL BE BRIEF, BUT I DO WANT TO REMIND FOLKS AS THE WEATHER STARTS TO WARM UP. TODAY WAS A REALLY AWESOME DAY AND I WAS OUT FOR A RUN AND I. I SAW A TON OF KIDS OUT ON THEIR BIKES AND SCOOTERS, WALKING DOGS, A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC OUT THROUGH THROUGH THE UPTOWN AND JUST AROUND THE AREAS. SO JUST AS YOU'RE DRIVING AROUND, PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF, YOU KNOW, LITTLE KIDS. I HAVE THEM AND THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS SO OBSERVANT. SO SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO ANTICIPATE THEIR MOVE IN ORDER TO AVOID A POTENTIAL TRAGEDY. SO YEAH. THANKS, EVERYBODY. MR. WOLFE. NOTHING FOR ME, MR. BURGER. I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN TRACY RICHARDSON SAT IN THIS SEAT, SHE WOULD ALWAYS SAY, DID YOU KNOW? SO THAT WAS HER. THAT WAS HER SLOGAN. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY, DID YOU KNOW SAINT PATRICK'S DAY IS COMING UP? SO WHILE IRELAND KEPT IT A MOSTLY RELIGIOUS HOLIDAY, IRISH IMMIGRANTS, ESPECIALLY IN AMERICA, TRANSFORMED IT INTO A CELEBRATION OF HERITAGE. THE FIRST PARADE WAS HELD IN 1601, IN SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. THE DAY BECAME A WAY FOR IRISH IMMIGRANTS, PARTICULARLY IN THE 18TH AND 19TH CENTURY, TO SHOWCASE THEIR CULTURE, PRIDE AND FACE OF DISCRIMINATION. SO IT'S FUNNY HOW WE CELEBRATE HOLIDAYS WITHOUT REALIZING THE ROOTS OF HOW HOLIDAYS ARE FORMED. AND AS A SOCIETY, WE CONTINUE TO SHOWCASE MY FAMILY'S HALF IRISH AND HALF GERMAN. AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE FORGET HOW HARD WE'VE HAD TO STRUGGLE TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. SO I THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT THIS EVENING. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU.

JUST FOR ME, A FEW THINGS. I WAS PLEASED TO SEE CITY HALL IN ORANGE FOR, YOU KNOW, CELEBRATING DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES AWARENESS MONTH, AND GLAD TO SEE THAT WE HAVE SOME, I THINK, EXCITING UPCOMING PROCLAMATIONS. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DONATE LIFE AND HOW THE ACT OF, YOU KNOW, INDICATING ORGAN DONATION CAN SAVE AND BENEFIT LIVES OF OTHERS. AND SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT HERE. COMING UP THE MAIN STREET MARYSVILLE PRESENTATION TODAY, I MY CHILD HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT IN THE TRASH PICKUP DAY. AND IF THERE'S A THERE'S JUST THERE'S NO BETTER WAY TO TO TEACH A KID SOMETHING THAN HAVING THEM JUST DO COMMUNITY SERVICE AND PICK UP. IT JUST TEACHES THEM TO CARE FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY LIVE IN. SO I'M HOPING TO DO THAT THIS SPRING. AND THEN JUST LASTLY, I THIS IS MY SECOND DAY BACK. I WAS IN TOKYO FOR A WEEK LAST WEEK, AND I FLEW OUT LAST SATURDAY. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M DRIVING TO THE AIRPORT SATURDAY MORNING AND I LEARNED THAT THERE WERE THE MAJOR MILITARY OPERATIONS IN THE MIDDLE EAST. AND I, YOU KNOW, I WAS FLYING OUT, MADE ME A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS. BUT AS THE WEEK PROGRESSED, AND ESPECIALLY ON MY FLIGHT HOME, JUST REALIZED THAT THERE'S A THERE'S DEFINITELY JUST DISRUPTION TO FLIGHTS. THERE'S A LOT OF CANCELLATIONS, ESPECIALLY FLIGHTS THAT GO JUST THROUGH THE MIDDLE EAST, THAT REGION. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, I MEAN, JUST DIFFERENT PARTS OF ASIA AND WHATNOT, HOW TO GET HOME, BUT JUST WANT TO EXTEND MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS TO JUST THE MEMBERS, ESPECIALLY MILITARY MEMBERS SERVING OUR COUNTRY, MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM. THAT MAY BE JUST IN THE LINE OF RETALIATORY, YOU KNOW, ACTIONS IN THAT IN THAT REGION. SO MY HEART GOES OUT TO THEM AND JUST HOPE FOR THEIR SAFETY AND WELL-BEING. AND WITH

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