[* A portion of this meeting is without audio *]
[1. To hear an Application for a Preliminary Plat for a +/- 44.49 acre residential development, Trotters Gate Subarea C, located at Parcel Numbers 2900090020020, 2900090021000, and 2900090020010 as part of the Marysville North Planned Unit Development.]
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RECORDING MAY NOT. THERE. IT IS SO BARBARIC. ROCKFORD DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENTS 5979 DUBLIN ROAD, DELAWARE, OHIO 430515. I'M JUST GOING TO KICK THIS OFF. WE'VE GOT OUR DESIGN TEAM AND OUR ENGINEERING TEAM IN THE BACK. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE STARTED ON ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO WITH THE CITY WAS PART OF MARYSVILLE NORTH, WHICH IS A 250 ACRE ANNEXATION, ZONING, MIXED RESIDENTIAL USE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF RETAIL. SO THE THE EAST SIDE OF THIS PROJECT IS M I AND ROCKFORD HOMES. AND THAT CAME THROUGH DESIGN REVIEW AND THE PLANNING PROCESS A WHILE AGO. THIS IS THE PIECE THAT IS THE HIGHER DENSITY PRODUCT THAT WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CITY TO DEVELOP. AND CITY COUNCIL, IT'S ROUGHLY 43 ACRES. IT INVOLVES THE REAR LOADED TOWNHOMES, THE REAR LOADED SINGLE FAMILY, AND THE 40 FOOT SINGLE FAMILY FRONT LOADING GARAGES. THE RETAIL AREA IS OUT IN FRONT OF THIS, AND THIS IS BEING DEVELOPED BY SCHOTTENSTEIN HOME. IT'S A BRAND NEW PRODUCT THAT THEY ARE DEVELOPING FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA. WHEN WE BROUGHT IT THROUGH AND ADDRESSED THE LARGER PLAN THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER, AND THE CITY PUT A KIND OF A MINI VISION PLAN IS WHAT I'LL CALL IT, A MINI VISION PLAN FOR THIS AREA IN CONJUNCTION WITH SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE WERE WORKING ON TOO. AND THEY HAD HIRED GREG CHILLAG AT THE EDGE GROUP TO DO THEIR PIECE. AND FOR CONSISTENCY, WE WENT AHEAD AND HIRED GREG TO HELP US WITH THE MASTER PLAN ON THE WHOLE 100 OR 250 ACRES. AND LO AND BEHOLD, SHOT AND HIRED GREG TO FINISH THIS PIECE OF IT. SO THAT'S THE KICK OFF WITH THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH YOUR QUESTIONS. YOU WANT AN OVERVIEW. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S 3 OR 4 PEOPLE THAT HAVE SEEN THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES, BUT I CAN CALL UP THE ENGINEER OR THE DESIGN TEAM, WHICHEVER YOU NEED. I DON'T KNOW, DUDE. SUPPORT.
WOULD YOU LIKE AN OVERVIEW OR, OR EVERYONE FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH IT? I THINK YOU OUGHT TO HAVE AN OVERVIEW FOR THE STAFF MEMBERS OR THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS. SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY, I'M GOING TO HAVE GREG COME UP HERE AND. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS GREG CHILL. I'M A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, LAND PLANNER WITH THE EDGE GROUP. I'M HERE REPRESENTING SCHOTTENSTEIN HOMES TONIGHT. WE'RE HERE FOR CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL. AND AS BART SAID, THIS IS FOR SUBAREA C, AND THIS DOES INCLUDE THE AREAS THAT ARE REAR LOAD GARAGES FOR TOWNHOMES AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AND A AREA FOR FRONT LOAD GARAGES ON SMALLER LOTS. THIS THIS DESIGN IS IN MAJOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE PUD. IT'S IN MAJOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE VISION PLAN. AS FAR AS THIS WANTS TO BE MORE OF A TRADITIONAL FORM, SMALLER BLOCKS REALLY PROMOTING CONNECTIVITY AND WALKABILITY TO A LOCAL DESTINATION, WHICH WILL
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BE THE RETAIL CENTER OUT ON ON THE STATE ROUTE. THIS PLAN, PLA, YOU'LL SEE, DOES MEET THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS. THE ORGANIZATION OF THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PUD AS WELL AS THE VISION PLAN. AND THE IDEA THERE IS THAT WE PROVIDE A VARIETY OF OPEN SPACE OPPORTUNITIES. WE HAVE PARKS, WE HAVE PRESERVATION AREAS, WE HAVE GREENWAYS. ONE OF THE MAJOR ELEMENTS TO THIS, THIS SITE PLAN IS THE PRESERVATION OF THE OHIO POND DOWN ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. SO THAT IS PRESERVED INTO A, A A REGIONAL PARK DESTINATION. IT'S IT'S DESIGNED TO BE A TERMINUS FROM THE MAIN ENTRY FROM THE FROM THE WEST, AS YOU'RE GOING EAST, IT'S A HINGE POINT THAT BRINGS A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER.IT'S A FOCAL POINT INTERNALLY. WE HAVE A LARGE CENTRAL GREEN THAT WE'VE ORIENTED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AROUND THESE FEATURE FRONT PORCHES, GARAGES IN THE REAR. THESE ARE ORIENTED TO A GREEN WITHOUT A STREET IN FRONT. WE HAVE A A WIDE PATH GOING AROUND THERE. I THINK. I THINK IT'S 10 TO 12FT WIDE, ABLE TO SUPPORT SOME EMERGENCY ACCESS. IN THOSE AREAS. WE HAVE ALSO ACCOMMODATED AND ACCOUNTED FOR PARKING, VISITOR PARKING. SO WE HAVE ACCOMMODATED FOR SOME PULL OFF VISITOR SPACES IN THE SERVICE LANE AREA, ALLEYS, IF YOU WILL, AS WELL AS WE'VE DONE PARKING COUNTS FOR SPACE ALONG THE THE PUBLIC STREETS. AND THE GOOD THING WITH THE THE REAR LOAD GARAGES IS THAT GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARK COMPLETELY IN FRONT ON THAT ONE SIDE OF THE STREET WITHOUT BEING INTERRUPTED WITH WITH DRIVEWAYS. I THINK WE HAVE ADDRESSED MOST OF THE PLANNING STAFF'S COMMENTS. ONE OF THEM THAT STILL MAY BE LINGERING OUT THERE IS RELATIVE TO THE THE SCREENING THAT IS BEING REQUESTED ON THE NORTH. PAGE 99.
AND I. AND WE HAVE MADE SOME ATTEMPTS TO ADD SOME TREES THERE. BUT HERE'S THE ONE THING THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN. WE DON'T WANT TO PROVIDE A COMPLETE SCREEN. I THINK GOING BACK AS WE'RE LOOKING TO THE EVEN BACK TO THE VISION PLAN, ONE OF THE GOALS OF THAT VISION PLAN WAS TO TAKE THE MEADOWS SUBDIVISION, AS WELL AS ALL THE LAND AROUND IT, AND JUST PUT A DESIGN TOGETHER THAT INCORPORATES EVERYTHING AND MAKES IT FEEL AS ONE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT IN THAT AREA. AND THAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH BACKING HOUSES ON THE LARGE OPEN SPACE PARKS AND GREENWAYS. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THIS CONDITION IS ON THE NORTH HERE. SO JUST OFF OUR PAGE TO THE NORTH, WE HAVE WE'LL HAVE EXISTING HOMES IN THE MEADOWS SUBDIVISION. THEN WE HAVE A GREENWAY, WHICH IS AT ABOUT 65 TO 70FT IN WIDTH. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, BUT I DON'T WANT TO CREATE A SCREEN WALL TO SEPARATE, YOU KNOW, WHO'S GOING TO GET SCREENED FROM THE OPEN SPACE IS MY QUESTION. SO THAT'S THE ONE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT OUT THERE AS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT. BUT I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, OUR GOAL IS TO ADD THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING TO PROVIDE SHADE FOR WALKERS, SOME STRATEGIC SCREENING, BUT NOT TO CREATE A COMPLETE STREET WALL PER SE, AND CUT OFF ACCESS TO THE GREENWAYS. THAT'S THE SITE PLAN AT A HIGH LEVEL. I'LL LET MIKE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE ENGINEERING FEATURES AND WHERE WE MIGHT BE ON SOME OF THOSE DESIGN ELEMENTS WELL BEFORE SINCE YOU'RE UP THERE. YEAH, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT LANDSCAPING. SURE. SO YEAH, I SAW THEIR COMMENT THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THAT THAT SOME TREES WERE ADDED THERE. I THINK THEY WERE LOOKING FOR JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND I, I DON'T BELIEVE THE INTENT. I DIDN'T MAKE THE COMMENT, YOU KNOW, ISN'T TO PUT A ROW OF ARBORVITAE OR WHATEVER TO JUST COMPLETELY BLOCK IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF SAW 3 OR 4 AREAS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PUTTING A TREE OR TWO, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A GROUPING OF TREES, YOU KNOW? YEAH. I THINK OUR INTENT HERE TONIGHT IS TO, AS WE GO FORWARD TO THE FINAL DRAWINGS, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT A SCREEN WALL, THERE IS. YES. YEAH. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE INTENT. IT WOULDN'T BE MY INTENT TO RECOMMEND THAT. NOT I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE BOARD, BUT I THINK A COUPLE ADDITIONAL TREES, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE AT A HOUSE THAT HAS FIVE TREES IN A ROW BEHIND IT, AND THEN YOUR NEIGHBOR 2 OR 3 DOWN HAS ZERO TREES, I MEAN, IT KIND OF SEEMS NOT EQUITABLE, I GUESS. SO MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE TREES WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS ON LANDSCAPING? NOT REGARDING TREES, BUT SOMETHING ELSE. OKAY, SO I THINK THERE'S 190 OR SOME ODD HOUSES IN THIS IN THIS 44 ACRES, THE SWING SET ONLY HAS THREE SWINGS IN. THE
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EAGLE'S NEST IS LIKE SUPER TINY, AND THERE'S A PATHWAY GOING TO THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD. DO YOU THINK THAT CAN SERVICE, YOU KNOW, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, SUCH A SMALL PLAY AREA. WE THINK IT CAN. AND HERE'S THE REASON WHY THIS THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT WAS LOOKED AT FROM A RECREATIONAL STANDPOINT AS ONE DEVELOPMENT. AND IT FUNCTIONS TOGETHER. SO THESE FOLKS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE CENTRAL AMENITY AREA, THE PLAYGROUND THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AS WELL AS THE WAY THAT THE OTHER COMMUNITY PARKS WERE PLANNED WITHIN THE OTHER PODS.THEY ALL KIND OF WORK AS ONE LARGER SYSTEM, BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK INTO FURTHER AS WE GET INTO THE FINAL ENGINEERING OF IT. IF YOU'RE LIVING IN LOT ONE, WHAT IS THE I MEAN, THE ONLY PLAYGROUND THAT'S CLOSE WOULD BE THE, YOU KNOW, THE POND PLAYGROUND, RIGHT? SO I'M NOT I DON'T WANT TO GET STUCK ON THIS. I DON'T WANT TO WASTE A LOT OF TIME ON IT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS EQUITABLE FOR SUCH A SMALL PLAY PLACE FOR SUCH A LARGE AMOUNT OF HOMES. THE FISHER HOMES PLAY PLACE HAS IS ALWAYS BUSY, RIGHT. AND THERE'S A CITY PARK 400 YARDS AWAY. LET'S GO BACK TO THE THE OVERALL CONCEPT, LIKE GREG MENTIONED OF, OF THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT HERE, THIS PIECE HERE, THE HIGHER DENSITY, SMALLER LOT SMALLER HOMES IS NOT EXPECTED TO BRING IN LARGE FAMILIES. IT'S MOSTLY YOUNG FAMILIES, MAYBE INFANTS, THOSE SORT OF THINGS. YOU GOT TO REMEMBER ON MORE THAN 60% OF THIS, YOUR BACKYARD IS BEING DESTROYED OR ENHANCED WITH A DRIVEWAY THAT'S COMING UP THE BACK. SO PLAYGROUNDS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. IT'S NOT THE INTENT HERE. WE'VE GOT THE 50 FOOT PRODUCT HERE JUST TO THE EAST OF THIS DETENTION POND. UP THERE YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY CENTER. SO ROCKFORD IS BUILDING A COMMUNITY CENTER WITH DIFFERENT TWO DIFFERENT AGE PLAYGROUNDS. THE POOL IS THERE FURTHER TO THE NORTH, AND IT'LL BE A, IT'LL BE A HIKE BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS 250 ACRES. WE NORTH ASH AS WELL, SO ENCOMPASSG THAT WE THINK THAT THE FAMILIES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE THE KIDS THAT ARE IN FIVE, SIX, YOU KNOW, UP TO UP TO THE, THE AGE THAT ACTUALLY USES THE PLAYGROUND ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE MORE LIKELY IN THE ROCKFORD, MI AREA THAN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. SO FAIR STATEMENT, IT'S THE REAR LOADED PRODUCT THAT, THAT DRIVES KIND OF THE YOUNG FAMILIES. IF YOU HAVE 2 OR 3 KIDS, ONE, THE HOUSES AREN'T GOING TO BE BIG ENOUGH. AND TWO, YOU HAVE A DRIVEWAY IN YOUR BACKYARD. SO YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, SPACE FOR, FOR THAT. AND, AND IT'S, IT'S LITERALLY DIVERSIFICATION OF, OF HOUSING IS, IS WHY THIS IS THERE. SO I THINK MOST OF YOUR PLAYGROUND PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO, TO MERGE OVER AND, AND THESE TRAILS DO CONNECT OVER THE WHOLE TRAIL. YEAH. SO THAT'S HOW I KIND OF ANSWER THAT VERSUS PUTTING A BUNCH OF PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT HERE THAT PROBABLY WON'T HAVE PEOPLE USING IT THAT OFTEN. I MEAN, I, I ACTUALLY, I THINK THE POINT THAT YOU BRING UP ABOUT NOT HAVING THE BACKYARD BECAUSE THE DRIVEWAYS THERE F FURTHER HIGHLIGHTS THE NEED FOR A PLAYGROUND IF THE KIDS EXIST. BUT YEAH, I MEAN, THESE AREN'T ONE BEDROOMS, RIGHT? THERE ARE TWO AND THREE BEDROOM PLACES, THREE, THREE BEDS. YEAH, YEAH.
I MEAN, I SAW SOME, YOU KNOW, BUT SO IT'S PROBABLY NOT SINGLE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BUT IF YOU YOUNG FAMILIES, IF YOU HAVE A DOG THAT NEEDS A BACKYARD, OR IF YOU HAVE A KID THAT NEEDS A BACKYARD, I'M, I'M JUST SAYING YOU'RE PROBABLY MOVING AWAY FROM THIS. IT'S PROBABLY YOUNG COUPLES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, YOUNG PROFESSIONALS THAT HAVE NOT STARTED PROCREATING YET.
IT'S DEFINITELY NOT PEOPLE THAT HAVE 2 OR 3 KIDS AT AN ELEMENTARY OR MIDDLE SCHOOL. SO AND LOOK, AND THERE IS OPPORTUNITY FOR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THERE. AND LIKE I SAID, WE CAN CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE IT'S THE RIGHT, THE RIGHT PIECE OR THE RIGHT PIECES AS, AS WE GET THE FINAL AND WE CAN WORK WITH ASHLEY ON THAT, WE'LL TAKE A CLOSER LOOK. ONE OTHER COMMENT ABOUT THIS. THIS, THIS WAS KIND OF A DEAD DATE. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT WAS A GOOD DEBATE TO HAVE BETWEEN CITY COUNCIL STAFF AND OURSELVES.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE MIDDLE SECTION, I THINK IN THE STAFF REPORT YOU MENTIONED THERE'S A LOT OF TREES IN THAT MIDDLE SECTION, SO IT'S GOING TO FILL ITSELF IN. WE TRIED TO DEBATE WITH CITY COUNCIL THE NEED FOR OPEN AREAS TO THROW A FOOTBALL, TO KICK A SOCCER BALL AND DO SOME OF THAT. AND 1 OR 2 OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WERE VERY ADAMANT ABOUT ADDING TREES AND FILLING IT ALL UP. NOW, THOSE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS DON'T HAVE KIDS, BUT IT WAS A GOOD DEBATE. BUT THAT'S WHY YOU SEE MORE AND MORE TREES HERE, AND ESPECIALLY ON THE OTHER SIDE. I MEAN, WE PUT AN ASTRONOMICAL NUMBER OF TREES IN THAT DEVELOPMENT TO KIND OF FILL UP THOSE AREAS VERSUS HAVE AN AREA THAT WAS JUST OPEN PLAYGROUND OR NOT PLAYGROUND, BUT OPEN PLAY PLAY AREA. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON LANDSCAPING OR RELATED? OKAY.
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SO IF YOU WANT TO MOVE TO ENGINEERING ACCESS. YEAH. SO I JUST REALLY A COUPLE THINGS TO POINT OUT. ACCESS FOR THE SITE WILL, WILL BE THROUGH THE SOUTHERN ACCESS WILL BE A FULL ACCESS ROUNDABOUT THAT IS PROPOSED THAT THAT ENTRANCE AND THEN OUR NORTHERN ACCESS POINT WILL BE A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE CONNECTIVITY TO THE NORTH THROUGH INTERNAL SUBDIVISION. AND THEN ALSO THE CONNECTIVITY TO THE EAST THROUGH THE THE ROCKFORD, MI PIECES THAT THAT BART WAS REFERENCING. A COUPLE OTHER JUST HIGH LEVEL ITEMS TO POINT OUT IS WE HAVE BEEN WORKING A LOT WITH THE CITY ENGINEER TO IMPLEMENT TRAFFIC CALMING OUR, OUR STAFF REPORT THAT THAT WE ADDRESSED ADDED BUMP OUTS AT SOME OF THE INTERSECTIONS, VARIABLE STRIPING OF THE LANE WIDTHS TO INTRODUCE 11 FOOT LANES WITH ACTUAL DEMARCATED PARKING ON THE STREET, INSTEAD OF JUST LEAVING THE WIDER LANES WHERE PEOPLE KIND OF USE THE THE RIDGE AND THE CENTER LINE AS THE DIVIDER. SO SHIFTING THE TRAFFIC TO ONE SIDE, HAVING THE THE MORE PRONOUNCED PARKING WITH THE BUMP OUTS TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC. AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY IF IT'S DETERMINED ANY RFP ARE NEEDED. THE FLASHING BEACONS AT CROSSWALKS ARE NEEDED. WE'LL BE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THEM THROUGHOUT THE FINAL ENGINEERING PROCESS TO MAKE SURE WE, WE, WE FOCUS REALLY OUR STREET DESIGN, NOT JUST ON VEHICLES, BUT ALSO ON PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU. SORRY. REAL QUICK ON THE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES, I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR YOUR PERSPECTIVE AS TO WHY THE BUMP OUTS, INSTEAD OF SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES, AND HOW THAT CONVERSATION WENT WITH CITY STAFF AND HOW YOU ENDED UP WITH THE THE DIRECTION YOU GUYS WENT WITH. YEAH, THE BUMP OUTS. I MEAN, REALLY, I THINK A COMBINATION OF GREG AND MYSELF ON THIS, WHEN YOU ADD THE BUMP OUTS, YOU RESTRICT THE WIDTH TO DRIVE. AND NATURALLY WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING, IF THERE IS A CONSTRICTION OF WIDTH, LANE WIDTH OR, OR SOMETHING, PROJECTING OUT THE NATURAL TENDENCY OF DRIVERS IS TO SLOW DOWN AND, AND YOU, YOU SLOW DOWN THAT ROUTE AND IT CREATES A MORE UNIFORM APPROACH. IT ALSO SHORTENS THE CROSSWALK LENGTH FOR THE PEDESTRIAN. SO INSTEAD OF CROSSING THE FULL 28FT WIDE, IT, IT BUMPS THAT IN SIX FEET. NOW YOU ONLY HAVE A 22 FOOT WIDE CROSSING. SO IT LIMITS THE TIME AT WHICH THE PEDESTRIAN IS IN THE CROSSWALK THEMSELVES. AND THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME STUDIES SHOWING THAT EITHER SPEED BUMPS OR STOP SIGNS, LIKE ADDING ADDITIONAL STOP SIGNS TO CONTROL TRAFFIC, ACTUALLY PRODUCES THE OPPOSITE RESULT, WHICH IS PEOPLE WILL STOP OR SLOW DOWN AT THE BUMP AND THEN DRIVE FASTER TO THE NEXT BUMP BECAUSE THEY'RE FRUSTRATED THEY HAD TO SLOW DOWN AT THAT BUMP, WHEREAS THE CONTROLLING WIDTH HAS SHOWN TO HAVE A LOT MORE LONG TERM EFFECT ON NOT. IT'S KIND OF LIKE ROUNDABOUTS. PEOPLE WILL SPEED BETWEEN TWO TRAFFIC SIGNALS, BUT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO STOP AT A ROUNDABOUT AND CAN HAVE CONTINUED FLOW, THE ACTUAL OVERALL FLOW OF THE TRAFFIC STAYS AT A LOWER SPEED THROUGHOUT THE ROUNDABOUTS AND IN BETWEEN ROUNDABOUTS, AND I THINK THEY'RE INTRODUCED HERE AS NOT AS A, NOT AS A, NOT AS A WAY TO BECAUSE WE THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SPEEDING TRAFFIC. IT'S IT'S PART OF THE, LIKE I SAID, THE TRADITIONAL BLOCK NETWORK AS WELL, THE MULTIPLE CONNECTIONS FOR, FOR VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, THE INTERSECTIONS CREATED WITH THE ALLEYWAYS, THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT ALSO SLOW TRAFFIC. SO WE'RE USING A LOT OF TOOLS OUT OF THE TOOLKIT, NOT JUST 1 OR 2 AS BUMP OUTS. SO IT'S, IT'S ALL INTEGRATED INTO A, AN APPROACH IN THIS SUBAREA. SEE THAT THAT INTEGRATES THOSE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTERISTICS AND PROMOTES THE WALKABILITY OF THE, OF THE AREA. SO THOSE BUMP OUTS ABSOLUTELY WILL HELP DO THAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON QUICK QUESTION WITH WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED, I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUES WITH LIKE EMERGENCY SERVICES COMING THROUGH. I THINK LIKE FIRE TRUCKS COMING IN, LIKE WIDE TURN RADIUSES, THINGS LIKE THAT.NO, WE STILL HAVE ALL OF THE CITY REQUIRED TURN, CURB RETURN RADIUSES. IT'S JUST THEY COME IN CLOSER IN THE STREET. THERE'S STILL THE 22FT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, AMPLE DISTANCE FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS. SO I DON'T SEE THEM SWINGING OUT FARTHER THAN THEY NEED TO BE.
AND OBVIOUSLY THAT IS SOMETHING WE'LL WORK ON WITH JAMIE AND THE TEAM TO, TO SHOW THAT THROUGH THE FINAL ENGINEERING. OKAY. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO ADD IS FROM MY
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PERSPECTIVE, THESE ARE ALL BRAND NEW PRODUCTS THAT THEY'RE BRINGING TOHE MAR MARKET. THEY'E BEEN DESIGNED ESPECIALLY FOR THIS SITE. ACTUALLY, IT'S A PRODUCT THAT SCHOTTENSTEIN HOMES HAS BEEN TRYING TO GET ON, ON ONLINE FOR A WHILE NOW. AARON CAN SPEAK TO THAT. WE'VE TRIED IT IN DUBLIN, BUT THIS IS THE THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TO PULL IT OFF. AND I THINK IT'S BEEN SUPPORTIVE. I THINK IT'S INTERESTING. I THINK IT'S PIONEERING, AND I THINK THEY'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF PUTTING A GOOD PRODUCT IN EXACTLY WHERE IT WAS NEEDED BASED ON THE VISION PLAN. ALL RIGHT. SO ANY OTHER GENERAL COMMENTS BEFORE WE OPEN UP TO SUSAN? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. ANY CITIZENS HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. WHAT IS THE WILL OF THE BOARD MOTION FOR APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A I NEED A SECOND. REALLY? SO CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MR. NICKERSON? NICKERSON? YES, PLEASE. SORRY. DIDN'T QUITE HEAR. MR. YES. MR. ENGEL. YES. MR. FISHER. YES. MR. MOCKERY. YES. MR. HATTON. YES. MR. STILLSON. YES. THANK[2. To hear an application for amendments to the Marysville East Planned Unit Development (PUD) and to include two recently annexed parcels to the manufacturing/innovation district portion of the PUD for properties located at Parcel Numbers 2800170460000 and 1100120020030.]
YOU. GENTLEMEN. NEXT AND LAST UP IS NEW BUSINESS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. TO HEAR AN APPLICATION FOR AMENDMENTS TO THE MARYSVILLE EAST PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND TO INCLUDE TWO RECENTLY ANNEXED PARCELS TO THE MANUFACTURING SLASH INNOVATION DISTRICT PORTION OF THE PUD FOR PROPERTIES LOCATED AT PARCEL NUMBERS 2800170460000 AND 1100120020030. SO AN APPLICANT HERE TO PRESENT. YEAH, WE'LL GIVE JUST A REAL QUICK OVERVIEW. AND THEN THE APPLICANT WE HAVE CURRENTLY ON FIVE SEPARATE. SECTION 11A1B SECTION TWO AND SECTION THREE FOR THE MARYSVILLE EAST DEVELOPMENT. SO WE COORDINATED CLOSELY WITH THE APPLICANT TO TAKE THE EXISTING ZONING TEXT AND COMBINE IT INTO ONE, PICK UP A CLERICAL ERRORS, AND THEN THEY ALSO ARE ADDING TWO NEW ANNEXATIONS THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVED INTO THAT DEVELOPMENT TEXT, AND 2 OR 3 OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT THEY'LL WALK THROUGH. BUT OVERALL, EVERYTHING IS STAYING CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AT CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL. YEAH. SO EACH OF THOSE FIVE HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND WE HAD HAD APPROVED IS JUST CONFORMING THE FIVE INTO ONE AND THEN UPDATING SOME LANGUAGE BASED ON COUNCIL CONVERSATIONS, CONVERSATIONS WITH WITH YOUR STAFF CONVERSATIONS THAT HAPPENED AT THE LAST APPROVALS RELATED TO DATA CENTERS. SO THEY SAID THEY WOULD COME BACK AND MAKE THAT CONSISTENT ACROSS THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT. SO THEY'LL SHARE THOSE COUPLE ADJUSTMENTS AND REQUESTS TONIGHT. IT'S KIND OF A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THAT. OKAY. SURE. MY NAME IS AARON UNDERHILL. I'M AT UNDERHILL AND HODGE AT 8000 WALTON PARKWAY IN NEW ALBANY. I'M THE ATTORNEY FOR THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY. I'VE GOT ANNIE RICHARDSON AND DICK ROGGENKAMP WITH THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY ALSO HERE WITH ME. YEAH. WELL, THIS IS A LENGTHY DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAD PRESENTED TO YOU WITH A LOT OF EXHIBITS. IT REALLY IS JUST RECASTING WHAT IS ALREADY APPROVED THROUGH A SERIES OF ZONINGS. OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE, YOU KNOW, ONE THING WE WE HAD MADE A COMMITMENT TO DO WAS TO COME BACK IN. AND IN THE AREAS WHERE DATA CENTERS WERE A PERMITTED USE IN THESE ZONINGS, WE'VE ALLOWED TO MAKE.WE'VE ALLOWED FOR THEM TO BE CONDITIONAL NOW. SO THERE WILL BE A SECONDARY REVIEW BY THIS GROUP. SHOULD. SHOULD THOSE OPPORTUNITIES PRESENT THEMSELVES. WE RECOGNIUU KNOW, THAT THE THE ATTITUDE ON DATA CENTERS IN OHIO IN GENERAL HAS HAS CHANGED. AND SO THIS ALLOWS YOU ALL TO PROVIDE INPUT WITH ANY PROPOSAL THAT WOULD WOULD COME FORWARD IN THAT REGARD. SO THAT WAS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THING WE I THINK WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. THE SECOND THING WAS THE ANNEXATIONS THAT WE WERE PURSUING AND TRYING TO KIND OF FILL IN THESE MISSING PIECES. WHEN YOU'RE OUT ACQUIRING THIS MUCH LAND, IT IT SOMETIMES DOESN'T WORK OUT THAT IT ALL COMES IN AT THE SAME TIME. SO WE'RE KIND OF ROUNDING OUT SOME PIECES HERE. AND WE WANTED TO GET THE SIMILAR ENTITLEMENT RIGHTS ON THOSE AS WE HAVE ON THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY. THAT'S THE SUBJECT OF THE APPLICATION. WHILE WE WERE AT THIS, IT BECAME PRETTY EVIDENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHILE THERE ARE A LOT OF HARD WORK WAS PUT INTO ALL OF THOSE TEXTS THAT WERE APPROVED PREVIOUSLY FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT AND EVEN FROM
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OURS, THERE CREATED SOME ADMINISTRATIVE HEADACHES BY LOOKING OVER HERE AND LOOKING OVER THERE AND SEEING WHAT COMMITMENTS WERE MADE. SO REALLY, A LOT OF WORK ON ON STAFF'S PART AND OUR PART TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TRIED TO MESH EVERYTHING INTO ONE COHESIVE DOCUMENT THAT COULD BE USED AS A SINGLE REFERENCE POINT GOING FORWARD. I THINK IN THE LONG RUN, THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT MUCH EASIER TO ADMINISTER. SO OTHER THAN THAT, WE REALLY HAVEN'T CHANGED ANY ANY STANDARDS. WE'VE RELABELED EXHIBITS AND SUCH, BUT EVERYTHING SHOULD BE THE SAME OR SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME AS WHAT YOU SAW AND APPROVED PREVIOUSLY. SO, I MEAN, ONE THING I DON'T THINK WAS TOUCHED ON, THERE'S ALSO ADDITIONAL VERBIAGE RESTRICTING GROUNDWATER USAGE, CORRECT? YES. THAT'S RIGHT. I WANT TO TOUCH ON THAT. OR ONE. GOOD EVENING. YES, IF YOU NAME IT. NO WORRIES. ANNIE RICHARDSON WITH THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY AT 8000 WALTON PARKWAY IN NEW ALBANY. JUST NOTING, IF YOU LOOK AT THE STAFF REPORT, THEY'RE ACTUALLY LAID OUT FOUR DIFFERENT CHANGES THAT WERE MADE ASIDE FROM, OBVIOUSLY, THE REST OF THE CLERICAL CHANGES THAT WERE INCORPORATED AS FAR AS THE GROUNDWATER WELLS. THAT WAS A COMMITMENT THAT WAS MADE AT THE END OF 2025 BY THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY AS PART OF OTHER APPROVALS THAT WERE MADE. AND SO THAT'S DEFINITELY WHERE THAT COMES FROM. YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE RECEIVED THE PACKET TWO WEEKS AHEAD OF TIME. WE REVIEWED IT, BUT JUST FOR THE RECORDING AND FOLKS IN THE ROOM, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THOSE AS WELL. JUST, YOU KNOW, NUMBER ONE, AS WE MENTIONED, IT'S THE TWO ADDITIONAL PARCELS THAT ARE BEING ZONED AND TO KIND OF ROUND OUT THE DISTRICT. SECONDLY, THERE ARE SOME CONDITIONAL USES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IN THE ZONING TEXT, WHICH ARE NOW A PROHIBITED USE. AND SO THOSE INCLUDE GROUND PASSENGER DISPATCH WAREHOUSING THAT'S OF THE PERSONAL AND PERSONAL STORAGE AND MINI USE, AND THEN RECYCLING CENTERS AND EXTENDED STAY HOTELS. SO THOSE ARE NOW GOING TO BE PROHIBITED USES THROUGHOUT AREA TWO, WHICH WERE PREVIOUSLY CONDITIONAL. AS ERIN MENTIONED, THE DATA CENTER CHANGE FROM CONDITIONAL OR EXCUSE ME, FROM APPROVED TO CONDITIONAL. JUST NOTING ON THERE AS WELL THAT THERE IS A PORTION OF AREA TWO THAT DATA CENTERS WERE PROHIBITED. THAT HAS NOT CHANGED. IT HAS NOT CHANGED TO CONDITIONAL. IT IS STAYING PROHIBITED AND IS SHOWN ON.I'LL HAVE TO LOOK. BUT ONE OF THE EXHIBITS THAT'S WITHIN THE PACKET. OKAY. LASTLY, WE JUST HIT ON THE GROUNDWATER WALL. SO THOSE ARE THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES THAT WERE MADE. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I'LL JUST ADD SORRY. I'LL JUST END BY SAYING THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT ARE ACCEPTABLE TO US. AND WE'LL MAKE THE CORRECTIONS THAT WERE NOTED. THIS WAS A LENGTHY DOCUMENT. AND SO WE WE YOU KNOW, YOU PROOFREAD IT A FEW TIMES.
WE STILL MISS THINGS. SURE, SURE. ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT I'D LIKE TO JUST HAVE IS CONDITION IS THAT CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM ON JUST SOME OF THE EXHIBITS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE VISIBLY CLEAR AND NOT PIXILATED SO THAT WHEN WE GO BACK, WE CAN SEE WHAT THOSE EXACTLY SAY BECAUSE WE KIND OF CONDENSE THEM DOWN INTO ONE DOCUMENT. SO THAT'S A MINOR TWEAK, THOUGH. MOVING FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL. OKAY, SO ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? REAL QUICK? JUST MORE OF A ADMINISTRATIVE ON THE EXHIBITS FOR THE ANNEXATIONS. THERE WAS LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS, BUT THERE'S NO THAT I SAW AN EXHIBIT THAT SHOWS WHERE THOSE ARE. OKAY, JUST POINT THEM OUT. IS THAT. YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. JUST GOOD EVENING. DICK ROGAN CAMP, THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, 8000 WALTON PARKWAY. SO I THINK I CAN PRETTY WELL DO IT ON ON THIS. JUST LET ME ZOOM IN FOR YOU HERE. EDUCATION FIRST IS THIS PIECE RIGHT HERE SOUTH OF THIS TREE ROW, COMING DOWN ALONG THIS BLACK LINE, THEN THIS CURVED LINE TO THE EAST IS THE CENTER LINE OF THE CREEK. SO WE ESSENTIALLY ACQUIRED THE BACK PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY.
THE OTHER IS. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT I GOT YOU. IT'S ONE OF THESE TWO SMALL RESIDENTIAL PARCELS THAT I WANT TO SAY IS 1.5 ACRES ROUGHLY, BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT WE JUST ACQUIRED LATER IN THE PROCESS. GREAT. THANK YOU. BARBARIC ROCKFORD DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENTS. THE ADDRESS IS ON FILE. SURE. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT ONE THING. I DID SEE THIS, BUT I OBVIOUSLY MISSED IT. ANNEXATION THREE THIS PARCEL AND THAT PARCEL NEED TO BE INCLUDED JUST AS YOU GUYS ARE FIXING THAT. THAT WAS PART OF THE 246 ACRES. THAT IS A SMALL HOUSE. AND THIS IS THE TALENT THAT COMES ACROSS THIS PART OF THE AREA FOR ANNEXATION THAT WE DID. SO I LITERALLY JUST SAW THE MAP. NO, I JUST MISSED THAT. OKAY. SHARE WITH ME BEFORE, BUT I JUST REALIZED THAT OKAY, SO WE'LL UPDATE THE MAP. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
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FROM THE BOARD RELATED TO THAT AREA THREE THERERE ARE NO CHANGS TO THAT SECTION. OKAY. SO WE'LL OPEN UP TO CITIZEN COMMENTS. ANY CITIZENS HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? SHOULD NOT SWEAR IN. WERE YOU HERE WHEN I SWEAR CITIZENS IN. OH SHE DID. NO, NO. I CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T STAND UP. NO NO NO. NO WORRIES. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU DECLARE THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH AND THE WHOLE TRUTH. UNDER PAINS AND PENALTIES OF PERJURY AND FALSIFICATION. I WILL YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I'M AMBER DURST FROM 16,000 JOLLY ROAD, MARYSVILLE. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY AND DICK ROGGENKAMP, ALONG WITH ASHLEY, WITH THE PLANNING PLANNING MANAGER OVER THERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO CONDENSE THIS. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AND TO HEAR ALL OF OUR COMMENTS AND CONCERNS AND WORK WITH US LAST SUMMER. SO THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND BECAUSE I FORGOT TO SAY BEFORE, YOU HAVE UP TO FIVE MINUTES, USUALLY PEOPLE DON'T GET TO FIVE MINUTES. BUT I JUST WANT TO MENTION, YEAH, I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE FIVE MINUTES. DOUG JENKINS 14242 OXFORD DRIVE, MARYSVILLE, OHIO 4340. IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS. IF YOU WANT TO TURN TO PAGE 19 OF YOUR 96, AS YOU KNOW, JOLLY ROAD, AS WELL AS BUXTON MEADOWS, HAS WORKED VERY CLOSELY WELL WITH THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY REGARDING THE ESTABLISHED BARRIERS AND SO FORTH, AND GOING THROUGH ALL THE DOCUMENTS, IT DID KIND OF TAKE US BACK TO SEE A SECTION IN THERE CALLED ELIMINATION OF SETBACKS. AND WE JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND SOME SCENARIOS THAT MIGHT COME INTO PLAY WHERE WHAT WE FEEL IS IN PRINT MIGHT BE ELIMINATED. SO OBVIOUSLY IT'S MORE DIRECTED AT THEM. I KNOW IT'S NOT A BACK AND FORTH. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW OR CLARIFICATION, AS WELL AS SCENARIOS THAT COULD COME INTO PLAY. ALSO ON THE EXHIBIT 2.3 HAS A PARKING SETBACK ALONG THE BUILDING SETBACK, AND THAT DOCUMENT WAS DATED AT SIX FOUR. BUT EXHIBIT 2.6 TALKS ABOUT THE ROAD SHOWING THE PONDS ON THE SOUTHERN AND WESTERN SIDE OF BUXTON MEADOWS, AND THAT ONE IS DATED FEBRUARY 23RD OF 2026 BASED ON IT. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ON WHAT MIGHT HAVE CHANGED OVER THAT FOUR MONTH PERIOD, WHETHER BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO GO MORE DIRECTLY BEHIND THE DEVELOPMENT, OR IF THOSE PONDS ARE GOING TO BE MAINTAINED THERE TO GIVE US SOME ADDITIONAL BUFFER FROM ANY ROAD CONSTRUCTIONS OR POTENTIAL BUILDINGS. EXHIBIT 2.3 SHOWS TRAILS CONCEPTUALLY AND ENDS ALONG WATKINS ROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE, AND NOTHING WAS INCORPORATED NEAR BUXTON MEADOWS EXCEPT FOR A VERY SMALL AREA ALONG WATKINS ROAD. SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING CONNECTED IN SOME WAYS OF SOME TRAILS, SO IT JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T GET LOST THROUGH THIS WHOLE PLANNING PROCESS.EXHIBIT 2.4 WILL THE WATKINS ROAD GO AROUND CURRENTLY TODAY, OR IS IT GOING TO END? AS THE NEW ROAD KIND OF DISSECTS THE TWO? SO IT'S JUST MORE A QUESTION OF CURIOSITY.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT LIVE A LITTLE FURTHER IN LIKE THE JOLLY ROAD FOLKS OR MAYBE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WATKINS, YOU KNOW, IF I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO EXIT OR ENTRANCE THEIR FACILITY FROM A WATER STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT DRAINAGE DITCH THAT GOES THROUGH THE THE SOUTH SIDE, BUXTON MEADOWS, YOU KNOW, IT'S THERE REALLY TO CATCH THE GROUNDWATER THAT'S COMING OFF THE SURFACE WATER, I SHOULD SAY, COMING OFF THE FARM FIELD. SO AS THIS DEVELOPMENT TAKES PLACE. SO IT'S KIND OF CURIOUS WHETHER THERE'S GOING TO BE LIKE A CULVERT WHERE THAT'S GOING TO BE UTILIZED IN A DIFFERENT MANNER, INJECTING MORE POTENTIAL WATER INTO THAT DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE A TENDENCY TO FLOOD IF THE STORM SEWERS GET OVERLOADED. SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WATER THAT'S COMING OFF OF THESE PAYMENTS OR THE ROAD IS NOT DIVERTED INTO THAT PARTICULAR DITCH AREA. FROM A BARRIER MOUNTING STANDPOINT, WILL THE MOUND WILL THE MOUNDS
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BE DEVELOPED BEFORE THE ROADS START TAKING PLACE TO KIND OF ADD SOME CUSHION AS CONSTRUCTION IS TAKING PLACE, OR WILL THEY BE DONE AT SOME OTHER LATER TIME WHERE WE'LL BE MORE DIRECTLY EXPOSED TO CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS? AND THEN THE LAST IS PAGE 86 AND 91.REFERENCES THE COMPREHENSION PLAN OF 2018. AND I GOT TO ADMIT, THIS IS A THORN IN MY SIDE. FOR MANY YEARS I THOUGHT WE HAD DONE AWAY WITH THE 2018. AND I UNDERSTAND AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT BACK IN 22, THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY DOCUMENT TO GO BY. BUT AS YOU'VE BEEN WELL AWARE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS NOW DEVELOPED A VISION PLAN. SO SINCE NO GROUND IS REALLY BROKEN, CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER PLANNING IS BEING DONE IS MORE TOWARDS THE VISION PLAN THAT HAS BEEN INCORPORATED OR WORKED SO HARD ON OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND MAYBE ELIMINATE THIS COMPREHENSIVE 2018, SINCE WE ALL AGREE THAT IT'S VERY MUCH OUTDATED AND THAT IS IT. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AYLOR CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC. SEEING NONE. IF THE APPLICANT COULD COME BACK UP AND WE CAN TALK THROUGH. YES.
THANK YOU. IF YOU WERE TAKING NOTES AS WELL, TRYING TO TAKE NOTES HERE. SO CORRECT ME IF I MISSED ANYTHING AS FAR AS THAT SETBACK PROVISION THAT WAS IN ALL OF THE OTHER ZONING TEXTS RELATING TO THE NON RESIDENTIAL AREAS BEFORE AND CONTINUES TO BE AND WITH THE INTENT THERE IS, IS JUST LIKE WE, WE'VE SHOWN YOU THAT WE'RE ANNEXING SOME PROPERTY SORT OF ALONG AN EDGE THERE, BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN IS CREATE A SITUATION WHERE WE WERE CALLING OUT PERIMETER SETBACKS THAT IF WE WERE TO ANNEX AND ZONE A PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING PLAN DISTRICT, THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO COME IN AND GET A VARIANCE OR SOMETHING TO GET RID OF THAT PERIMETER SETBACK. SO THE CONCEPT IS WHEN A PROPERTY IS ANNEXED AND ADDED TO THE DISTRICT AND IS ZONED IN A MANNER THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS ALREADY ZONED ON THAT SIDE OF THE SIDE OF THE LINE THAT'S ALREADY ZONED, SO TO SPEAK. THAT PERIMETER BOUNDARY ESSENTIALLY GOES AWAY AND IT BECOMES A ZERO SETBACK. SO YOU CAN BUILD OVER IT. AND THEN THE NEW ZONING ZONED THAT'S RIGHT FOR SIMILAR ZONED PROPERTY. AND THEN WE HAVE A NEW PERIMETER BOUNDARY WHERE THAT WOULD BE THE PLACE WHERE ANY RESIDENTS WOULD BE AFFECTED, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE THEN WE'VE TURNED THE PERIMETER BOUNDARY LINE INTO AN INTERNAL LINE. SO WE HAVE A MECHANISM IN THERE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR A VARIANCE ON THE ORIGINAL ZONING WHEN THAT OCCURS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. I'LL I'LL SPEAK TO THE DRAINAGE DITCH AND FLOODING AND AND SUCH. OHIO LAW IS VERY CLEAR THAT YOU ANYTHING YOU'RE DOING ON A PROPERTY YOU'RE DEVELOPING CANNOT IMPACT NEGATIVELY IN TERMS OF VOLUME OR FLOW, WHAT IS GOING ON IN ADJACENT PROPERTY. SO ALONG WITH SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED, I THINK WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE SECONDARY DESIGN REVIEW PROCESS AND THEN WITH WITH THE ROADWAYS, THE PUBLIC STREET, ROAD A IS WHAT WE'VE CALLED IT, THAT PLATTING PROCESS. WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THINGS LIKE ENGINEERING OF, OF THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, ETCETERA, BUT IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO NOT INCREASE ANY PROBLEMS ON THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO US. AND YOUR, YOUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT CERTAINLY WILL HOLD OUR FEET TO THE FIRE ON THAT. BUT I DO WANT THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A NUMBER OF SECONDARY REVIEWS OF BOTH THE ROAD NETWORK, THE ENGINEERING COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT, AND THEN THE ACTUAL DESIGNS OF BUILDINGS AND SITES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO THE POND NEAR THE ROAD. JUST NOTING AS WELL ON THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT IT IS SHOWN ON EXHIBIT 2.4. AND AS WE DEALWITHE ROADWAY, THAT'LL ALL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND INCORPORATED INTO THE DESIGNS.
AS FAR AS THE ROADWAY GOES, THERE WAS REFERENCE TO EXHIBIT 2.6. THAT'S NOTED IN THERE AS A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING OF THE ROADWAY ROAD A, AND SO YOU'LL NOTICE IN THERE THAT THERE ARE WE ARE EXCEEDING THE SETBACK LIMIT AS FAR AS PAVEMENT. AND THEN FURTHER ON WOULD BE THE BUILDINGS BEYOND THAT. AND SO AGAIN, THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING, WHEREAS THE RULE IS VERY CLEARLY LAID OUT IN EXHIBIT 2.4 THAT SHOWS THE SETBACKS THAT WOULD BE COMPLIED WITH. SO I HOPE THAT HELPS. ANSWER YOUR QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION. DOES IT CONNECT THE I'LL CALL IT THE OUTERBELT. SO IT CONNECTS DOWN FROM WATKINS ROAD ON THE SOUTH SIDE TO WATKINS ROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE, OR SCOTT'S LAWN. GOING WEST DOES GO AROUND. YOU'RE NOT
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GOING TO ELIMINATE THIS AT THIS TIME. ALL WE'RE SHOWING IS THE CONCEPTUAL DRAWING OF THE ROADWAY THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE TAKING ANY TRAFF TRAFFIC OFFF THE EXISTING WATKINS ROAD. WERE YOU ASKING? I'M SORRY. I KNOW IT'S NOT BACK AND FORTH. I SAY IT A LOT, BUT JUST JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR, WE'RE TRYING TO BLOCK THE ROAD. IT IT REMAINS. IT REMAINS. BUT BUT I MEAN, BECAUSE OF THE CURVE IN THE ROAD ON THE SOUTH END, TRAFFIC THAT'S NOT GOING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO WANT TO GO, YOU KNOW. SO YEAH, THE GOAL IS TO RELIEVE TRAFFIC.HARD TO TELL WHETHER IT WAS IT WAS A FIRM CUT OFF. YEAH. BUT BUT WATKINS ROAD WILL REMAIN.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE MOUNDS AND AND TIMING ISSUE, I'LL BRING DICK UP TO KIND OF HANDLE THAT ONE. SO DICK GREGORY AGAIN, NEW ALBANY COMPANY ON THE TIMING OF THE MOUNDS. WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE. WE WILL BE EXCAVATING THE POND AND USING THAT DIRT FOR THE MOUNDS. AND THEN BY DEFINITION, WE'LL HAVE TO CLEAR TOPSOIL STOCK THAT SEPARATELY, WHICH WOULD BE. THEN YOU TAKE OFF THE TOPSOIL, PUT IT ASIDE, TAKE CLAY FROM THE MOUND OR FROM THE THE THE PONDS. USE THAT TO BUILD THE MOUNDS AND THEN PUT TOPSOIL ON TOP OF IT TO SUPPORT THE VEGETATION I DO, I DO WANT TO TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MANAGE ONE EXPECTATION FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. THIS WILL BE A CONSTRUCTION SITE. AND THERE'S JUST NO WAY AROUND THAT, YOU KNOW, AND FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN THE, WHEN THE TREES ARE PLANTED WILL BE AN OPEN QUESTION. YOU DON'T WANT TO PLANT TREES THIS TIME OF YEAR. YOU KNOW, IT'S EITHER THE SPRING OR THE FALL. SO DEPENDING ON THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOPING TO, TO START YET THIS YEAR ON THAT ROADWAY. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY ON THAT NOW. AND SO I EXPECT YOU WILL SEE ACTIVITY LATE THIS YEAR, WHETHER THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE MOUNDS WILL START THIS YEAR OR START IN THE SPRING. WE JUST DON'T KNOW YET. OH, THE ONE OTHER COMMENT, THE REFERENCE TO THE 2018 COMP PLAN, I BELIEVE THAT'S IN THE SECTION THAT DEALS WITH BART'S AREA THREE UP TO THE NORTH. I, YOU KNOW, LOOK, I, I UNDERSTAND THE VISION PLAN, I THINK, AND ASHLEY CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. THE, THE COMP PLAN IS STILL KIND OF CONTROLLING AND THAT THAT THE NEXT STEP IS TO TAKE THAT VISION PLAN AND MAYBE UPDATE THE COMP PLAN. BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, IT'S REALLY THE ONLY THING WE CAN REFERENCE. WE CAN REFERENCE THE VISION PLAN, THE CONCEPTUAL INTENT OF SOME OF THAT DESIGN DIRECTION. BUT WE ARE WORKING ON UPDATING THE COMP PLAN CURRENTLY. SO BASED ON THE VISION PLAN. YES. SO THAT IS ALL GOING TO COME AND WE WILL UTILIZE THOSE WHEN THESE INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENTS COME TO DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. I THINK I WANT TO SAY MAYBE THE LAST THING I HADN'T HEARD, JUST THE TRAILS CONNECTING CLOSER INTO BUXTON MEADOWS. UNDERSTAND THIS IS CONCEPTUAL STILL. YEAH.
AGAIN, THE THE TRAIL SHOWN BETWEEN THE ROADWAY AND AND OR TO THE EAST AND NORTH OF THE ROADWAY ALONG BUXTON MEADOWS. MEADOWS ARE CONCEPTUAL. WE WOULD ANTICIPATE. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE CITY HAS A BIG INTEREST IN CONNECTIVITY. WE HAVE TALKED IN DIFFERENT SETTINGS ABOUT WHETHER THERE WOULD BE A CONNECTION TO BUXTON MEADOWS DIRECTLY TO THAT PATH. AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED. IF IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE BUXTON MEADOW RESIDENTS WANT, IT CAN BE IT CAN IT CAN HAPPEN. IF THEY DON'T WANT IT, IT DOESN'T NEED TO HAPPEN. WE REALLY SEE THAT AS AS A CITY AND, AND, AND NEIGHBORHOOD DECISION RATHER THAN A DEVELOPER DECISION. OKAY. SO AS THE PLANS GET FINALIZED, WORKING WITH THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CONNECTED, AS YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD LIKE TO SEE CONNECTED. I THINK THOSE EVERYTHING ON MY LIST, AGAIN, NOT BACK AND FORTH, BUT I'LL LOOK BACK TO YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT.
WITH ALL OF THIS SAID, WHAT IS THE WILL OF THE BOARD? MOTION TO APPROVE. THANK YOU. MR.
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STOYAN, DO WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MR. WOLLOWITZ? YES. MR. ENGEL. YES. MR. FISHER. YES.MR. CHERRY YES. MR. HUTTON. YES. MR. STILIAN YES. MR. NICKERSON. YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT
[DISCUSSION ITEMS]
FINISHES UP NEW BUSINESS THAT TAKES US UP TO DISCUSSION ITEMS. ANY ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION THIS EVENING, OR WAS THERE? WE COULD PROBABLY MENTION IS OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE. WE HAD APPLICATIONS OUT FOR THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH WERE DUE TODAY. SO IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN APPLYING FOR THAT, THOSE APPLICATIONS CAN STILL BE SUBMITTED. AND OUR CONSULTANT AND CITY STAFF WILL REVIEW THOSE AND CREATE A COMMITTEE THAT WILL HELP US THROUGH THAT COMP PLAN PROCESS. AND THEN THERE WILL BE PUBLIC MEETINGS AS WELL THAT ARE OPEN TO ANYONE TO ATTEND. AND WE WILL ANNOUNCE THOSE. AND WE WILL ALSO SHARE THE THE CAC GROUP AS WELL. WHO IS SELECTED FOR THAT IN THEIR FIRST MEETINGS, JULY 29TH, OR[DESIGN REVIEW BOARD LIAISON REPORT]
AT LEAST PLANNED TO BE SO FAR. YES. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING. YEAH. OKAY.DESIGN REVIEW BOARD LIAISON REPORT. I WASN'T HERE LAST MEETING, BUT CHIPOTLE PASSED BEGRUDGINGLY WITH THE. THEY PASSED WITH THE CONDITION THAT THEY WOULD INCLUDE SOME SORT OF ARTWORK OR MURAL ON THE SIDE OF THEIR BUILDING, AND THEY HAVE WORKED WITH STAFF TO COORDINATE THAT. IS IT BEEN UPDATED SINCE THE THE PLAN. IT HAS BEEN UPDATED SINCE THE PACKET. YEAH, YEAH. THEY SENT OVER A CONCEPT WITH PEPPER THAT TAKES UP THE ONE PORTION OF THE. I THINK IT'S A BRICK WALL THAT'S THERE, WHICH I THINK IS THE DIRECTION THAT THE BOARD GAVE FOR THAT.
YEAH, I THINK IT REALLY WAS A CHIPOTLE CORPORATE. WHAT THEIR INTERPRETATION OF A MURAL IS VERSUS WHAT WE WERE THINKING. YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANTED SOME SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE BRANDING AS TO BE. YEAH. AND THE NEXT ONE WAS THE OLIVE GARDEN. AND I STOPPED WATCHING.
OKAY. I STOPPED WATCHING THE MEETING AFTER CHIPOTLE. OKAY. NO, THERE WASN'T A
[COMMENTS OF INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS]
REPRESENTATIVE. SO SO IT WAS TABLED. OKAY. THEN THAT TAKES US TO COMMENTS FROM INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS. START THE END. MR. HANNON COMMENTS. MR. STERLING, IT'S GREAT TO SEE EVERYBODY HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY. IT WAS NICE AND TODAY WAS A GOOD MEETING, MR. FISHER. NO COMMENT, NO COMMENT. MR. YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK. I MEAN, THESE WERE TWO LARGE DEVELOPMENTS, AND IT SHOWS THE WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND THE CITIZENS HOW I DON'T WANT TO SAY SMOOTH BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT LESS COMBATIVE IT CAN BE. SO THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY. MR. RICHARD, I WOULD ECHO THOSE, BUT OTHERWISE NO COMMENT. YEAH. AND SIMILAR, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE, I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD LONG ENOUGH TO SEE THIS FROM THE BEGINNING TO NOW. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF VOICES AND I'M GLAD WE'RE WE ARE HEADING. AND I'M GLAD TO SEE GENERAL CONSENSUS. SO YEAH, SO COMING TO THESE MEETINGS AND TALKING DOES ACTUALLY AFFECT STUFF, YOU KNOW, SO I HOPE PEOPLE REALIZE THAT AND, AND HEAR THAT. SO WITH THAT, IT IS.721 DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION TO
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