1. To hear an application for a Conditional Use application to permit an Accessory Dwelling Unit (ADU) located at 13944 Southard Rd in the Single-Family Residential district.

[1. To hear an application for a Conditional Use application to permit an Accessory Dwelling Unit (ADU) located at 13944 Southard Rd in the Single-Family Residential district. ]

ADMINISTRATION. NONE AT THIS TIME. OKAY. THAT LEADS US INTO NEW BUSINESS. AGAIN, WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT IS TO HEAR AN APPLICATION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION TO PERMIT AN ACCESSORY DWELLING DWELLING UNIT LOCATED AT 13944 SOUTHARD ROAD IN THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. IS THE APPLICANT HERE TO PRESENT? YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. ASK THAT YOU COME TO THE PODIUM JUST TO GIVE US A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON ON WHAT YOU ARE PLANNING OR PROPOSING TO DO. GOOD EVENING. MY ADDRESS. SORRY, SORRY. ERIC FLEWELLING 13944 SOUTHERN ROAD, MARYSVILLE, OHIO. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE INTO THIS, THIS PROPERTY, IN 2020. IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING TIME. THE PROPERTY HAD BEEN PRIMARILY NEGLECTED SINCE, ABOUT 1999, 1996, THAT TIME PERIOD. AND SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO TRY AND SLOWLY IMPROVE VARIOUS ITEMS, DRAINAGE, IN PARTICULAR, SINCE THIS IS A HIGH CLAY CONTENT AREA, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAD WANTED TO ADDRESS IMMEDIATELY WAS THE EXISTING BARN. IT FRANKLY IS AN EYESORE, COMPARED TO THE REMAINDER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. MOST OF THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS, YOU KNOW, BUILT WITHIN THE LAST 10 TO 20 YEARS. THERE ARE OLDER HOMES ALONG SOUTHERN AND BERGER, THAT WERE BUILT BY LEASE. AND THEY ARE, ALSO NICE, BUT, THIS POLE BARN WAS INSTALLED IN 1980. IT WAS USING CREOSOTE SOAKED POLES. AND IT WAS SUNK INTO CLAY. SO THERE ARE STRUCTURAL CONCERNS WITH THE BUILDING THAT IS THERE. OUR INTENT WAS TO HAVE THAT ADDRESSED PRETTY QUICKLY. HOWEVER DURING COVID, PRICING WAS, WAS AWFUL AND FINDING CONTRACTORS TO DO WORK WAS ALSO AWFUL. SO WE GOT PUT OFF SEVERAL YEARS, WHICH BRINGS US TO NOW, TODAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ADU, WHICH WAS NOT INITIALLY A PART OF THE PLANS FOR THIS BUILDING. THE ADU IS TO ACCOMMODATE A FAMILY MEMBER MOVING HERE FROM MAINE, TO BE CLOSER TO OUR FAMILY. THAT FAMILY MEMBER HAS A DISABILITY RETIREMENT FROM THE FEDERAL

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GOVERNMENT. WOULD BE PROVIDING INCOME TO MARYSVILLE. AND, HAS A STABLE INCOME. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY TO UNDERSTAND THE, WATER SEWER NEEDS. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE SRDA ADU IS ALLOWABLE. SO THIS IS MORE DISCUSSING THE TYPE OF ADU AND, WORKING THROUGH THIS WITH YOU FOLKS. THE, THE VENDOR THAT I HAVE, LINED UP TO BUILD THE STRUCTURE IS FROM VERMONT. THIS IS INTENDED TO BE A PERMANENT STRUCTURE MORE IN KEEPING WITH THE TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE HAVE. AND TO SERVE AS A GARAGE, THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMES, IN FACT, I BELIEVE ALL OF THE HOMES, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE GARAGES. AND ALL OF THEM, I BELIEVE ARE ALL, ATTACHED. WE BELIEVE THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A DETACHED GARAGE, THAT WOULD KEEP THE PROPERTY MORE IN LINE WITH OTHER PROPERTIES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY MAKING IT A USABLE SPACE VERSUS RIGHT NOW, IT IS A SPACE WHERE THINGS GO TO ROT AND DIE. SO WE ARE ATTEMPTING, THIS IS GOING ON TO A FULL FOUNDATION. IT WILL BE GRADED AWAY FROM THE STRUCTURE. THERE WILL BE NO IMPACT TO THE EXISTING TREES. AND OTHER NATURE ITEMS IN THE AREA. AND THERE ARE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE MORE IN LINE WITH THE VARIANCE, THAT I'M PROBABLY NOT GOING TO ADDRESS TODAY, BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. OKAY. WELL, AND JEFF'S JUST CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BECAUSE I, I KNOW YOU'RE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD NEXT WEEK. YES. WHICH THREE OF US ARE ON THE DRB? SO WE'LL SEE YOU BACK. AS FAR AS WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US IS, JUST EVALUATING WHETHER AN ADU IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, SO WHILE YOU PROVIDED RENDERINGS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO COMMENT ON COLORS AND, YOU KNOW, ASK ABOUT MATERIALS AND THAT.

SO THAT'D BE NEXT WEEK. SO, I DIDN'T SEE ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF, BUT WE DID NOT HAVE ANY COMMENTS. FOR, FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE, THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS FOR DRB, BUT THAT'S MORE OF WHAT'S IN THE CODE FOR ADU REQUIREMENTS. BUT, FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE, THIS IS KIND OF MEETS THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE ASKED ON THE, THE AD OR ON THE CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION. AND THOSE WERE PROVIDED WITH YOUR RESPONSES. YEP. OKAY. SO I DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS FAR AS THIS GOES. ANYONE ELSE ON THE BOARD I DO. YES SIR. YEAH. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK, SO YOU INDICATED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A TRADITIONAL FOUNDATION. I'M ASSUMING THAT'S A FOOTING. YES. OR WILL THIS BE A SLAB ON GRADE STRUCTURE. YES. THERE WOULD, THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY CRAWL SPACE. THERE WOULD BE NO BASEMENT, SPECIFICALLY SO THAT THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PARKING. AND WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR VEHICLES BEING IN THERE EVERYWHERE BETWEEN, THE GARAGE SPACE AND THE UPSTAIRS WOULD BE SHEETROCK PER CODE. SO ARE YOU TRADITIONALLY FRAMING THIS INTENT? IS THAT YOUR INTENT? LIKE WITH TWO BY 6 OR 2 BY FOUR TRADITIONAL FRAME STRUCTURE, IT IS A WE CAN GET INTO THAT DETAIL IF YOU'D LIKE. IT IS A MODIFIED. MODIFIED POST FRAME IS THE BEST WAY FOR ME TO DESCRIBE IT. AGAIN, THIS IS A BUILDER OUT OF VERMONT THAT HAS DEVELOPED A, A KIND OF A HYBRID BETWEEN TIMBER FRAMING AND STICK FRAMING. SO RATHER THAN HAVING POSTS, BEAMS AND THEN A KNEE BRACE, BASICALLY ALL OF THE STUDS RUN AT A 45 DEGREE ANGLE. WHICH PROVIDES THE STRUCTURE WITH THE RACKING RESISTANCE THAT IT NEEDS FOR WIND LOAD. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT UNUSUAL. BUT THAT IS ENGINEERED, STAMPED DRAWINGS THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE COUNTY ANYWAY. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT ODD, BUT FOR THE MOST PART YOU CAN CONSIDER IT A TWO BY SIX WALL. LIVING QUARTERS IS UPSTAIRS. YES. YEAH. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. IS IT A ONE BEDROOM. YES. THE THE, THE PLAN IS FOR A ONE BEDROOM. OKAY. BUT GENEROUS ONE BEDROOM. SURE. OKAY. SO I MEAN, JUST WITH THAT, BECAUSE OF, GARAGE SPACE REQUIREMENTS AND THAT THAT'S WHY I ASK. SO. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS, SIR? ANYTHING ELSE COME UP? ALL RIGHT. SO, AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN UP THE CITIZEN COMMENTS. AND WE'LL LET THEM, MAKE COMMENTS. AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT, WE SHOULD

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RESPOND TO, WE'LL BRING IT BACK UP AFTER THAT. ABSOLUTELY. GO FROM THERE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT? SO AGAIN, STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE UP TO FIVE MINUTES. OKAY, GREAT. MY NAME IS CHRISTINE WOLCHOK. I LIVE AT 18636 BURGER ROAD. SO WE'RE KITTY CORNER TO THEIR PROPERTY, FOR PROXIMITY RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCHULTZ'S. SO I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY KNOWS IN THE TOWN. SO, YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY WANT TO COMMEND THE APPLICANT FOR, YOU KNOW, THE THOUGHT PROCESS AND STUFF THAT'S GONE INTO THE DESIGN. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR BACKGROUND, WE MOVED TO MARYSVILLE A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS AGO. AND ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE REALLY LIKED ABOUT MARYSVILLE WAS JUST HOW PRETTY THE TOWN WAS AND HOW MUCH THOUGHT HAS GONE INTO THE PLANNING AND STUFF AROUND THE, THE RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, AREAS AND STUFF. AND SO PART OF THE CONCERN, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS AN SRD, RIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, WE EVEN RAN INTO THIS BECAUSE WE WERE, WHEN WE MOVED HERE, WE WERE THINKING OF ADDING A COUPLE OF SMALL SHEDS, JUST BECAUSE OF WHERE UTILITIES AND STUFF WERE. AND WE RECOGNIZED THAT WE COULDN'T GO BEYOND THE THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT LIMIT FOR ACCESSORY BUILDINGS. AND RECOGNIZING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE EXISTING, YOU KNOW, POLE BARN, WHICH OBVIOUSLY LIKE THE NO CONCERN ABOUT REPLACING THAT. I MEAN, I WOULD REPLACE IT AS WELL HAVING SEEN IT. RIGHT. BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE SIZE OF IT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT CONCERNING TO US BECAUSE AS IT'S PLACED TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, RIGHT, IT PEERS INTO, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORING, YOU KNOW, YARDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZING THAT AN ADU, RIGHT, AS HE'S POINTED OUT IN THE APPLICATION, GIVES A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR THAT UP TO 2400FT■!S. BUT THE ENTIRE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALL SSRD, RIGHT? AND THERE'S OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE ONE ACRE OR EVEN TWO ACRES AND, YOU KNOW, JUST IN CLOSE VICINITY TO IT. SO, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SEPARATE TREATMENT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, LIKE THE ACCESSORY, YOU KNOW, BUILDING THAT'S THERE, RIGHT? IT'S 1100FT■!S. SO CERTAINLY RECOGNIE THAT THAT'S GRANDFATHERED IN 1800FT IS, YOU KNOW, 1820 IS A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, HIGHER THAN THAT, OBVIOUSLY, AND A LITTLE BIT CONCERNING BECAUSE EVEN HIS, YOU KNOW, EXISTING HOME, WHEN I LOOKED IT UP IN ZILLOW AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IF THERE'S BEEN IMPROVEMENTS IS, YOU KNOW, 20 LIKE, OR TWO, A LITTLE OVER 2000FT■!S. SO EACH FLOOR IS ONLY A LITTLE OVER 1000FT■!S, RIGHT. SO THIS IS SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER THAN EVEN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. AND ALSO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO TELL FROM THE HEIGHT BECAUSE IT REFERENCES, 23FT, SIX INCHES FOR THE MEAN ROOF HEIGHT, WHICH OBVIOUSLY THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL ROOF PLUS A CUPOLA AND STUFF ON TOP OF THAT. SO, QUESTION ABOUT KIND OF HOW HIGH THE ACTUAL HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE, COMPARED TO, YOU KNOW, HIS EXISTING HOUSE. AND I THINK THERE'S, AND APOLOGIES, I DON'T KNOW, ALL OF THE ZONING CODES AND EVERYTHING AND MARYSVILLE, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE LESS THAN 30FT OR THE HEIGHT OF THE HOUSE. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE CONCERN FROM THAT, LIKE WANTING TO MAINTAIN THE, THE ESTHETICS OF THE BUILDING, LIKE ISN'T, YOU KNOW, NECESSARILY CONCERNING, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IMPROVEMENT. I THINK IT'S A NICE LOOK TO IT. IT'S THE SIZE OF IT. RIGHT. AND KIND OF THE PRECEDENT THAT IT SETS FOR THE AREA. OBVIOUSLY WE ALREADY HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE A POTENTIAL LARGE DEVELOPMENT GOING IN RIGHT ACROSS THE WAY. THERE'S THE SCHOOL THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPROVED. AND WHEN YOU START TO, YOU KNOW, CONDENSE AND OVERPOPULATE THE PROPERTIES, RIGHT, IT, YOU KNOW, TAKES AWAY A LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND STUFF WITH THE OTHER PROPERTIES. SO, NOT TO SAY WE DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, AN ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE OR A STRUCTURE LIKE THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE CLOSER TO THE REALM OF WHAT WAS PLANNED AND WHAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE SDR. SORRY, SORRY, BUT, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE 1100 FOOT WAS GRANDFATHERED IN, BUT THIS, YOU KNOW, EVEN GREATLY KIND OF EXCEEDS, YOU KNOW, THAT AMOUNT. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, THERE IS FOLIAGE AND STUFF, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A BUNCH OF LARGE TREES, BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT CAN CHANGE ANY SECOND WITH THE STORMS. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, THAT ONLY APPLIES DURING THE, YOU KNOW, APRIL TO SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER KIND OF TIME FRAME WHEN THE LEAVES ARE ACTUALLY ON THE TREES. SO, AND, YOU KNOW, HE MENTIONED THAT HE MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, ONE FAMILY MEMBER COMING IN, WHICH IS HELPFUL TO KNOW. BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, HAVING THIS, THIS ADDITIONAL UNIT, RIGHT? LIKE SHOULD HE DECIDE TO MOVE OR WHATEVER ELSE, LIKE, DOES IT PRESENT THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MULTIPLE FAMILIES, RIGHT? LARGER FAMILIES ON THE SAME PROPERTY? I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, FAMILIAR WITH THE ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNITS, BUT, THAT'S OUR CONCERN, YOU KNOW, JUST WOULD, YOU KNOW,

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RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THE COMMITTEE CONSIDER KIND OF IT BEING REVISED TO BE A LITTLE MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE, SRD SITUATION TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMUNITY. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT, I'M ACTUALLY PROBABLY GOING TO GO TO JEFF AS FAR AS, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT, THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING SIZE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, AN SR D? YEAH. SO THERE WAS, THERE'S BEEN SOME CONVERSATION ON IF THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED A NON-CONFORMING USE AND, AND THAT IT COULD BE EXPANDED UPON. THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION SINCE THEY'RE TEARING DOWN THE EX THAT THAT IT WOULD NOT BE AN NONCONFORMING USE. BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE A VARIANCE FOR THE ADDITIONAL SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE. SO THAT, THAT WAS ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH, WITH THE VARIANCE REQUEST. SO JUST THE WAY OUR PROCESS WORKS IS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION COMES FIRST IN THE MONTH. SO HE'S HEADING PLANNING COMMISSION AND DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. AND THEN IT ULTIMATELY IT COULD STILL DECIDE IF HE GETS THE VARIANCE FOR THE SIZE OF IT. SO, SO VARIANCE IS REQUIRED FOR THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING. IT WOULD BE FOR THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. WE MAY ADD ANOTHER TIER FOR THAT FOR THAT. YEAH. SO SO FOR THE ADU ITSELF IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS. SO FOR THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD THAT'S NEXT WEEK.

HE HE PROVIDED A FLOOR PLAN THAT SHOWS THAT THE SPACE OF THE ADU. AND THAT MEETS OUR MAXIMUM SIZE OF AN ADU SQUARE FOOTAGE WITH THE MAXIMUM SIZE FOR A DETACHED ONE IS 950FT■!S.

HE'S LIK 890FT■!S IS WHAT'S BEING USED OF THE SPACE FOR THE ADU. BECAUSE THE DOWNSTAIRS IS THE GARAGE AND THEN THERE'S A STORAGE AREA. SO ADU WISE IT WILL MEET THE PARAMETERS OF THE ADU. IT'S JUST THAT IT'S AN ACCESSORY BUILDING. SO IT WOULD NEED A VARIANCE. OKAY. AND THEN OUR FOR THE HEIGHT, OUR DEFINITION FOR BUILDING HEIGHT MENTIONS THE MEAN ROOF HEIGHT, WHICH SOMETIMES WE HAVEN'T. WE USUALLY GO TO THE TOP OF IT. BUT WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE DEFINITION THIS IS KIND OF HOW IT'S DEFINED. SO, WE WOULD LOOK AT THE MEAN ROOF HEIGHT. AND I BELIEVE HE RESPONDED TODAY WITH SOME UPDATED, COMMENTS FOR THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. I BELIEVE THE EXISTING HOUSE IS 26FT. SO THIS IS WOULD BE BELOW THAT WITH A MEAN HEIGHT. YEAH. OKAY.

SO, BASED ON THAT NOW, I MEAN, IF THERE'S CONCERN WITH THE ACTUAL TOP AND, AND COMPARED TO THE VERY TOP OF THE HOUSE, I MEAN, THAT COULD BE A DISCUSSION THAT THAT CAN BE HAD.

IF THE BOARD HAD THAT THOSE CONCERNS AND YEAH, AND THAT COULD ALSO BE A DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WHERE THAT'S THE DESIGN OF IT. YEAH. AND NOT NECESSARILY THE USE OF IT. YEAH.

SO YEAH, SO UNFORTUNATELY, THE PROCESS OF THINGS, I MEAN, SO AGAIN, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW IS JUST TO DECIDE WHETHER A, ANY ADU IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PROPERTY.

AND WHETHER IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS. THEN NEXT WEEK IS DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WHERE WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE HEIGHTS. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE OF IT. THE SIZE OF IT. AND IF THEN THERE'S A, A BZA, WHICH IS THE, VARIANCES AND THAT'S AFTER DRB. SO I MEAN, SO, SO AT LEAST YOU DON'T HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE DECIDING EVERYTHING IN THIS TOWN, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT BOARDS, YOU KNOW, SO, YEAH, SO WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW IS WHETHER WE'RE AN ADU OF ANY TYPE REALLY IS, IS APPROPRIATE. SO. OKAY. YES. I MEAN, I KIND OF FELT LIKE I CLOSED, COMMENTS. NO, GO AHEAD PLEASE. KATHY YOUNG 425 WEST EIGHTH. SO WHEN WE WERE DOING ALL THIS ADU STUFF, I DON'T THINK WE EVER TALKED ABOUT LOT SIZE AT ALL.

IS THERE ANYTHING IN PLACE WITH THE LOT SIZE? BECAUSE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THIS LOT IS OVER AN ACRE. IT'S LIKE AN ACRE AND A QUARTER. THE, WE JUST HAVE ONE PERMITTED PER PARCEL OR ONE IS A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF ADUS ALLOWED PER PARCEL IS ONE. SO THEY WOULD JUST HAVE TO MEET LIKE THE SETBACKS AND THOSE TYPE OF REQUIREMENTS AND THEN THE SIZE REQUIREMENTS. SO YEAH, THERE'S NOTHING PARCEL SIZE, THERE'S NOTHING. AND I KNOW IF YOU LOOKED AT HIS, RESPONSES FOR SOME OF THE COMMENTS, OR SOME OF THE QUESTIONS FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE, THERE WAS DISCUSSION THAT THIS PARCEL KIND OF ALIGNS MORE WITH A, A R D ZONING, IN OUR CODE WITH THE SIZE OF THE LOT. SO A RDRD IS A MINIMUM OF AN ACRE. SO DOES THAT CHANGE IT. ALLOW IT WOULD

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BE A CONDITIONAL USE FOR ADU. AND IT DOES ALLOW FOR A LARGER ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. THEY'RE ALLOWED LIKE 1000FT■!S I BELIEVE FOR A GARAGE. SO YEAH. SO, SO I MEAN, THAT DEFINITELY KIND OF MORE ALIGNS WITH OUR ADU STANDARDS, IN THE ZONING CODE, BUT, ZONING CODE REWRITE WAS DONE. THEY, THEY PUT THIS IN WITH SRD, I WASN'T HERE WHEN THAT HAPPENED, SO I'M NOT SURE WHY. BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES AND YOURS MIGHT BE INCLUDED THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE, YOU KNOW, COULD HAVE BEEN MORE WITH A R D DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE PARCELS. SO, SO.

ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THIS DISCUSSION, A OTHER THINGS COME UP WITH THE BOARD. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. OKAY. SO, WHAT IS I ASSUME YOU SEEK APPROVAL. HE'S GOT A WHAT'S THIS RESPOND. OH WELL I MEAN I DON'T WAS THERE A, ANYTHING THAT WAS SAID THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO AS FAR AS THE APPLICATION FOR PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I. I REALLY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT, WHAT IS THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION? AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE. WE DID HAVE A CODE UPDATE FOR CONDITIONAL USES THAT ALL CONDITIONAL USES REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY, SUPPORT FOR AN APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE, WHICH WOULD MEAN FIVE YESES FOR FOR SUPPORT FOR COMMISSIONERS. SO FIVE, I WAS THINKING IT WAS SIX FIVE OUT OF THE. SEVEN. SO ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR. HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE, MR. FISHER. YES. MR. MCKAY. YES.

MR. HATTON. YES. MR. STERLING. YES. MR. NIXON. YES. MR. WALNUTS. YES. THANK YOU SIR.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE EVERYONE IN THE COMING WEEKS. SEE YOU NEXT WEEK. FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. YOU KNOW, GET GET IT. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WITH THAT, IF I COULD FIND MY GET BACK TO THE RIGHT PAGE. I BELIEVE THAT TAKES US TO DISCUSSION ITEMS. I DON'T HAVE

[DESIGN REVIEW BOARD LIAISON REPORT]

ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS. ALL RIGHT. DESIGN REVIEW BOARD LIAISON REPORT. WE HAD FOUR APPLICATIONS LAST MONTH. ONE WITHDREW WAS, OLIVE GARDEN AGAIN. WE APPROVED THE ROOF THAT WAS ALREADY INSTALLED IN A LOCAL. IT WAS LEAKING. IT WAS LEAKING. YES. NICE ROOF, METAL ROOF. IT FIT. A NEW DETAIL SHOP FOR THE HONDA OF MARYSVILLE AND ACURA BUILDING WAS APPROVED WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF NEW LANDSCAPING AND PARKING. AND THE BRIDGESTONE WAS APPROVED.

THAT'S ACROSS FROM THE AUDI, BY WENDY'S FRONTAL LOBES, WHATEVER. AND THOSE DON'T LOOK NICE.

WHAT'S THAT? FIRESTONE BRIDGESTONE. SAME THING, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH. AND THAT'S IT. ALL

[COMMENTS OF INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS]

RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. COMMENTS FROM INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS. LET'S START THE END. NO COMMENT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD LUCK ON A NEW BABY MAN. IT'S GOING IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT. THANK YOU, MR. FISHER.

SAME. MR. MATURI, ANY COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. MAYBE THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSION ITEM. I HAD EMAILED STAFF. IT JUST MADE ME THINK, THERE'S A LOT THAT I WALKED PAST, THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE NOW THAT WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE, YOU KNOW, GROUP MAILBOXES NEEDING TO BE PART OF, NEW NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS WHERE I WALK, THERE IS A SMALL NARROW LOT OR THE MAILBOXES ARE, BUT LIKE THE LOT WAS NEVER SODDED OR SEEDED AND IT JUST LOOKS LIKE CRAP, BUT LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT JUST NEVER COMES UP. LIKE YOU ASSUME THAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE A LAWN OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW? SO I JUST ASKED TO SEE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, AND, ZACH WAS GOING TO FOLLOW UP, BUT, JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE REVIEWING THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, A QUESTION TO ASK JUST TO MAKE SURE LIKE IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN IT, BUT TO WHAT LEVEL SHOULD THEY BE MAINTAINING IT? LIKE WE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE SAY SO. JUST SOMETHING THAT CAME UP THIS WEEK THAT I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP. SO IT'S IN PEOPLE'S MINDS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. NOTHING BIG. OTHERWISE. I'M

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SORRY. AND THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE DO. FINAL COMPLIANCES ON THE INDIVIDUAL HOMES. I DON'T THINK WE DO IT ON THE FULL DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO. I KNOW, WE RUN INTO SOME ISSUES WHERE THE HOA TAKES OVER AND THEY DIDN'T DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WAS DONE. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE STUCK WITH THINGS THAT WHEN WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO SO AND THEY SEEK THEIR BOND BACK, DON'T WE INSPECT EVERYTHING LIKE SIDEWALKS. ADA. YES, WE TYPICALLY DO THAT WITH EACH HOUSE. NOT THE WHOLE, NOT THE WHOLE THING. I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE WHOLE IF THE COUNTY DOES A WHOLE DEVELOPMENT ONE OR OR HOW THAT HAPPENS. BUT I KNOW LIKE ZONING WISE, WE DO IT PER HOUSE. BUT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK INTO. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CLOSE THAT OUT. I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, THESE DEVELOPMENTS TAKE MULTIPLE YEARS. SO SOMETIMES IT'S YEAH, I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN, LIKE, WHEN DO YOU ADDRESS THAT LIKE OPEN SPACE POINT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, STARTED 15 YEARS AGO AND STILL GOING. SO YEAH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A MIAMI DRIVE FOR ALL THOSE CLUSTERS ARE BEING USED THOUGH. SO ALL THE HOUSES ARE AROUND IT ARE FINISHED. OH, YEAH. THEY'VE BEEN FINISHED FOR 2 OR 3 YEARS PROBABLY AT THIS POINT. THAT'S THE TYPICAL ONE. SO MY GUESS IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT PROBABLY SHOWS IT AS GRASS OR LAWN AREA.

SO YEAH. BUT WHEN DOES THAT HAVE TO BE SEATED AND DONE RIGHT. IT'S JUST SOMETHING I'VE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT. SO YEAH. ANYWAYS, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OF COURSE. GOOD LUCK. AND, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. THANK YOU SIR. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Aug 04, 2026 Planning Commission

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