[00:00:07] AUGUST 24TH, 2026. THE TIME IS 7 P.M. WE ARE GOING TO CALL THE MARYSVILLE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER THIS EVENING. WE'RE GOING TO START BY STANDING SAYING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, AND THEN PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALMIGHTY GOD, WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AS WE SEEK TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE AND ITS CITIZENS. AMEN. ROLL CALL. ZACH BORDNER HERE. STEVEN WOLF HERE. DONALD BURGER HERE. SCOTT HUNTER HERE. KELSEY HERE. MARK REAMS AND KATHY YOUNG HERE. APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 3RD, [APPROVAL OF MINUTES: August 3, 2026 City Council Work Session Meeting Minutes] 2026 CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MEETING MINUTES. HAS EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW. IF SO, ANY CORRECTIONS OR REVISIONS? MR. PRESIDENT, I MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. AUGUST 3RD, 2026. CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MEETING MINUTES. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? MEETING MINUTES ARE APPROVED. NEXT ON TONIGHT'S [ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT] AGENDA IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT HUNTER. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THIS EVENING. A FEW ITEMS TO NOTE. EXCUSE ME. NOW, THROUGH SEPTEMBER 6TH. THE POOL. THE POOL WILL TRANSITION TO WEEKEND ONLY. HOURS ARE FROM NOON TO 6 P.M. SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. THE NEXT FRIDAY NIGHT UPTOWN EVENT WILL OCCUR ON SEPTEMBER 11TH WITH MUSIC BY TONY MONACO'S SEAN CARNEY AND THE GROOVE BROTHERS. AND I DO WANT TO NOTE THERE'S AN EVENT EARLIER THAT DAY ON SEPTEMBER 11TH. THE NINE OVER 11 MEMORIAL WILL BE AT DECKER FIRE STATION AT 9:50 A.M. THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FESTIVE FARE. MARYSVILLE 45TH ANNUAL CELEBRATION OF COMMUNITY ART AND FUN WILL TAKE PLACE ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 12TH FROM 9 A.M. TO 4 P.M. AND THE DETAILS OF THAT EVENT ARE ON THE MAIN STREET MARYSVILLE WEBSITE. DO I? DO I KNOW THIS ONE? OH YES, I DO HAVE A PHOTO. SHE HAS A PHOTO. A PHOTO OF WINE AND REWIND. LAST. LAST FRIDAY NIGHT UPTOWN EVENT AUGUST 14TH. THERE WERE APPROXIMATELY 4900 ATTENDEES. SORRY. IT'S OKAY. I'M GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO OUR PUBLIC SERVICE DIRECTOR SLASH ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER TO NOTE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION ITEMS. YEAH. THANKS, KIM. SERVICE DEPARTMENT HAS THE FOLLOWING UPDATE. STREET CREWS WILL START OFF THE WEEK CLEANING HELPING CLEAN UP AT THE OHIO BALLOON FEST, WHICH WAS GREATLY ATTENDED. ASPHALT PATCHING AROUND THE CITY IS BEING COMPLETED ALONG WITH BASE REPAIR ON CHESTNUT STREET. ON THE PARK SIDE, CREWS WILL CONTINUE TO MOW THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF BURIALS AT OAKDALE THIS WEEK. WATER CREWS CONTINUE TO INSTALL SERVICES ON CONLEY STREET, WITH HYDRANT FLUSHING IN THE COUNTY ONGOING. WE ARE ALSO CURRENTLY COMPLETING CYCLICAL TREATMENT AT THE RESERVOIR, WITH HYDRANT PAINTING ONGOING AS WELL. THE AVERAGE WATER USE WITH ALL THE RAIN WAS 4.08 MILLION GALLONS A DAY WITH A WITH A PEAK OF 4.1. SO THAT'S PRETTY. THAT'S ABOUT AS CONSISTENT AS YOU CAN GET. AND THEN FINALLY, OUT OF WASTEWATER, WE HAVE A TEMPORARY GENERATOR IN PLACE OUT AT OUR WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY WITH TESTING SCHEDULED FOR TODAY. THE LINING PROJECT CONTINUES. COLLECTION STAFF CLEANED MULTIPLE WET WELLS. STAFF CONDUCTED SEVERAL SEWER TAP INVESTIGATIONS OR INSPECTIONS, AND FINALLY, PUMP STATION THREE UPGRADES BEGIN THIS WEEK AS WELL. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JAMIE FOR SOME CONSTRUCTION UPDATES. THANK YOU. KARA AND CHERRY STREET SANITARY. WE ARE DOING PUNCH LIST THIS WEEK, WEATHER PENDING ULTRA FIBER. WE HAVE TWO CREWS CURRENTLY WORKING, ONE STILL IN GREEN PASTURES AND ONE ON WEST NINTH STREET. OUR 2026 PAVING PROGRAM. ALL THE CONCRETE WORK IS DONE, SO THERE'S CURRENTLY NO WORK BEING DONE THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK. SHELLEY IS GOING TO BE MOBILIZING SEPTEMBER 8TH TO BEGIN MILLING. PAVING WILL BEGIN AFTER MILLING AND STRESS ABSORBING MEMBRANE INTERFACE WILL BE ADDED. AND THEN ONCE THAT'S COMPLETED, WE'LL BE ABLE TO START PAVING. THEY PLAN ON STARTING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN AND THEN MOVING THEIR WAY SOUTH, AND THEN YEP. THANK YOU. AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE DO HAVE EAST FIFTH STREET [00:05:06] IMPROVEMENTS STARTING SOON. SEPTEMBER 8TH IS THE OFFICIAL HOPEFULLY START DATE. WE HAVE BEEN DOING SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS. WE'VE HAD A PROJECT INFORMATION PUT ON EVERY RESIDENT'S FRONT DOOR ALONG EAST FIFTH. WE'VE TALKED TO ALL OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS AS WELL AS WE'VE STARTED KNOCKING ON DOORS. SO WE WILL CONTINUE STARTING OR KNOCKING ON DOORS THIS WEEK. THE PLAN IS TO. ALL WORK SHOULD BE DONE BY DECEMBER OF 2026, WEATHER PENDING. THE CONTRACTOR IS PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO AT LEAST GET THE PAVING DONE THIS YEAR, AND THEN DOING STRIPING NEXT YEAR. BECAUSE OF THIS, WE ARE DOING A FULL CLOSURE. SO ORIGINALLY WE WERE ONLY GOING TO DO A PARTIAL CLOSURE, BUT THERE WAS SOME SCHEDULE ISSUES WITH LEAD TIMES FOR STRUCTURES. AND WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO ALLOW A FULL CLOSURE FOR THIS. THE DETOUR ROUTE IS EAST FOURTH STREET. WE PLAN ON PUTTING A TEMPORARY SIGNAL AT EAST FOURTH AND CHERRY TO HELP KEEP THE TRAFFIC FLOW MOVING. SO WE DO HAVE. WE HAVE MESSAGE BOARDS OUT RIGHT NOW ON EITHER SIDE OF EAST FIFTH STREET, LETTING EVERYONE KNOW WE'VE BEEN DOING SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS. THERE IS A LINK ON OUR WEBSITE FOR QUESTIONS. SO YEAH, I'M EXCITED TO GET THE PROJECT GOING. HOPEFULLY IT IT'S SMOOTH. AND THEN I GUESS I KNOW THAT THERE WAS CONCERNS BROUGHT UP ABOUT FESTIVE FARE SINCE THAT IS THE WEEKEND AFTER WE START WORK AND THE FIRST WEEK IS REALLY JUST MOBILIZATION OF EQUIPMENT, THEY'RE GOING TO GET READY TO START, YOU KNOW, THE ACTUAL DETOUR. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO OPEN UP THE ROAD FOR THE WEEKEND SO THERE WON'T BE ANY ISSUES WITH TRAFFIC FOR THAT WEEKEND. AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE IT AND ACTUALLY START CUTTING THE ROAD. THAT'S ALL I HAD. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES OUR ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT. OH, NO. I HAVE ONE MORE THING. I INTRODUCED THEM. I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MIKE MCNUTT FROM OHIO DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES TO DISCUSS WATERSHEDS. HEY. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL. HOW Y'ALL DOING? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I'M MIKE MCNUTT, AND I HAVE BEEN AT ODNR FOR NOW FOR LIKE FIVE MONTHS. AND I AM THE DERBY PROJECT WATERSHED MANAGER. AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS GOING AROUND AND TALKING WITH MULTIPLE DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS THROUGHOUT THE WATERSHED, EVERYWHERE FROM PICKAWAY COUNTY UP TO HERE IN UNION COUNTY AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TALKING ABOUT A STUDY THAT WE ARE WRAPPING UP, AND I WANTED TO COME AND SHARE SOME OF THIS INFORMATION WITH ALL OF YOU, BECAUSE IT'S SPECIFIC TO THE DERBY WATERSHED. SO THANKS AGAIN FOR HAVING ME. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I'LL TRY NOT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME, BUT I HOPE YOU FIND THIS SOMEWHAT INTERESTING. SO THE STUDY IS CALLED AN INTEGRATED PRIORITIZATION SYSTEM STUDY. SO NOBODY REALLY KNOWS WHAT THAT MEANS. BUT WE'RE HERE TO UNFOLD THAT MYSTERY TOGETHER. OKAY, SO FIRST LET'S TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT ODNR IS. I WORK IN THE SCENIC RIVERS PROGRAM, AND THESE ARE ALL THE SCENIC RIVERS THAT WE HAVE DESIGNATED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STATE. AND SO THERE'S 17 OF THEM. AND WHEN YOU GET TO BECOME A SCENIC RIVER, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SORT OF LIKE REGULATORY AUTHORITY THAT SITS OVER THEM. THERE'S THREE NATIONAL SCENIC RIVERS. AND OF COURSE, THERE'S ALSO INCLUDING BIG AND LITTLE DARBY CREEKS. AND THIS IS GOING. THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE NOW FOR ABOUT 58 YEARS. BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, THOUGH, DOES EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT A WATERSHED IS EXACTLY? SO WE CAN KIND OF ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE. SO IF YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT LIKE WE'VE ALL SEEN A PICTURE OF A CARDIOVASCULAR OR A VASCULAR SYSTEM IN THE HUMAN BODY, RIGHT? SO THINK ABOUT THE LITTLE CAPILLARIES THAT YOU HAVE LIKE ALL CLOSE TO THE SURFACE OF YOUR SKIN AS THOSE LITTLE, LITTLE STREAMS THAT YOU MAY SEE IN A FIELD OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN THOSE THINGS. SOMETIMES THEY'RE CALLED EPHEMERAL STREAMS. THEY SOMETIMES FLOW, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T. BUT THEN THINGS THAT WE CALL LIKE A CREEK OR A DITCH, SO TO SPEAK, THOSE THINK ABOUT THOSE AS YOUR VEINS. AND THEN THE ARTERIES WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE BIG AND LITTLE DARBY CREEK. THE BIGGER, THE BIGGER STREAMS, RIGHT. AND SO DEPENDING HOW BIG THE WATERSHED IS, JUST THINK ABOUT IT IN THAT SAME KIND OF PHILOSOPHY. SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BIG DARBY CREEK WATERSHED. IT'S ABOUT 555MI■!S. THE MAIN [00:10:08] STEM OF DARBY CREEK IS 84 MILES. LITTLE DARBY CREEK IS 44 MILES. AND EVERYBODY'S. MAYBE YOU'VE HEARD OF HELL BRANCH RUN. IT'S ON THE VERY SORT OF EASTERN SIDE OVER HERE OF THE WATERSHED MAP OR THE WESTERN SIDE OF FRANKLIN COUNTY. THAT IS WHERE THE DARBY ACCORD, WHICH I'M SURE EVERYBODY HAS HEARD OF AT SOME POINT IN TIME, EXISTS WITHIN THAT SORT OF REGULATORY AREA. BUT I ALSO JUST WANT TO BRING SOMETHING TO YOUR ATTENTION, THE, I GUESS THE BEIGE COLOR HERE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THE MAP REPRESENTS AGRICULTURE OR CROPS. SO THE WATERSHED ITSELF IS STILL PREDOMINANTLY AGRICULTURE. SO URBANIZATION HASN'T REALLY, REALLY OVERTAKEN AGRICULTURE AS THE MAIN LAND USAGE IN THE WATERSHED. LET'S SEE HERE. OKAY, SO A COUPLE THINGS. BIG DARBY CREEK AND LITTLE DARBY CREEK, AND REALLY THE ENTIRETY OF THE WATERSHED HAS SOME VERY COOL SPECIES OF FISH, MUSSELS AND MACROINVERTEBRATES IN IT. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S 100 DIFFERENT SPECIES OF FISH. AND MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW THIS, BUT BIG AND LITTLE DARBY CREEK IS ACTUALLY CONSIDERED ONE OF THE MOST BIOLOGICALLY DIVERSE WATERSHEDS IN THE ENTIRE MIDWEST. SO NOT JUST OHIO, BUT THE ENTIRE MIDWEST. WE HAVE FIVE STATE ENDANGERED SPECIES. THERE IS. AND WE'LL TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS INDEX, OHIO FISH INDEX SCORES, WHICH ARE PERFECT, WHICH I KNOW DOESN'T REALLY MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU, BUT IT WILL IN A MINUTE. AND THEN MUSSELS, WE DON'T REALLY THINK ABOUT THEM TOO, TOO MUCH, BUT MAN, LIKE THEY HELP KEEP WATER VERY CLEAN. THEY ONE MUSCLE CAN FILTER OUT AT LEAST ONE OR MORE LITERS OF WATER PER MUSCLE. AND SO LIKE THAT ACTUALLY HELPS KEEP THE WATER CLEAN. AND WE HAVE 45 DIFFERENT SPECIES AND FIVE FEDERALLY ENDANGERED AND THREE THREATENED JUST WITHIN THIS WATERSHED ALONE. AGAIN, BIG AND LITTLE DARBY CREEKS, NATIONAL AND STATE SCENIC RIVER DESIGNATIONS, WHICH IS PRETTY COOL. AND THIS IS, OF COURSE, IN SOME OF CITY OF MARYSVILLE'S JURISDICTION. THEY HAVE THE MOST HIGHEST EPA, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY CLASSIFICATIONS, EXCEPTIONAL WARM WATER HABITAT, AND OUTSTANDING RESOURCE WATER. THESE ARE THE TWO HIGHEST DESIGNATIONS THAT ANY NATURAL WATER BODY CAN GET IF YOU'RE A RIVER. THE AMERICAN RIVERS SUGGEST THAT THIS IS THE NINTH MOST ENDANGERED RIVER IN THE US, AND THE NATURE CONSERVANCY NAMED THIS ONE OF THE LAST GREAT PLACES WHEN IT COMES TO RIVERS. SO WHAT IS THE THREATS GOING ON TO BIG AND LITTLE DARBY CREEK? URBAN EXPANSION, BASICALLY. AND I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT LIKE, IF YOU WERE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, JUST A, A WOOD LOT AND RAIN'S FALLING DOWN ON THE WOODLOT OR A PRAIRIE, THE NATURAL PERCOLATION. SO THE RAIN WILL ACTUALLY ABSORB AND SOAK INTO THE SOIL. AND WHEN IT DOES THAT, IT ACTUALLY WILL GET INTO THE VEGETATION, THE TREES OR THE PLANTS, OR IT GETS INTO OUR UNDER WATER STORAGE TANKS, WHICH IS THE UNDERGROUND WATER AQUIFER, RIGHT? SO WE WANT TO RECHARGE THE AQUIFER. BUT WHEN WE PUT IMPERVIOUS SURFACES ACROSS THE LANDSCAPE THAT ONCE WAS, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WOODLOTS OR PRAIRIES OR, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING, IT CAN'T OBVIOUSLY GO INTO THE WATER AND IT RUNS OFF. SO WE HAVE OUR PARKING LOTS THAT HAVE THIS, AND THAT DECREASES THE GROUNDWATER RECHARGE, AND WATER GOES INTO OUR STORM SEWER SYSTEMS. AND WHEN IT GOES INTO OUR STORM SEWER SYSTEMS, IT PICKS UP A BUNCH OF STUFF THAT HANGS OUT ON THESE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES. SO AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, OIL AND STUFF THAT DROPS FROM YOUR CAR, IT GOES RIGHT ON YOUR SURFACE. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW THIS, BUT THOSE STORM WATER SEWERS GO STRAIGHT TO YOUR LOWEST LYING AREA, DOES NOT GET TREATED AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. RIGHT? SO IT JUST GOES UNTREATED INTO OUR INTO OUR WATERWAYS. AND SO WE DO TRY TO DO THINGS LIKE, THIS IS A BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE. IT JUST GOES OVER A, YOU KNOW, AN INLET IN THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. BUT WE DON'T MAINTAIN THEM. IT DOESN'T REALLY DO ANY GOOD. BUT SO THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF JUST NOT MAINTAINING STUFF LIKE THAT. NOW, THE ONE OTHER THING, WHICH IS KIND OF STRANGE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, ALL THAT IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, IT GETS FUNNELED INTO A STREAM, RIGHT? AND SO THIS IS NOT WHAT A STREAM SHOULD LOOK LIKE. THIS IS ACTUALLY A STREAM THAT HAS BEEN SCOURED AND IT KEEPS GETTING SCOURED DOWN. AND WHEN IT DOES THAT, IT DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO ITS FLOODPLAIN ANYMORE. AND WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR FLOODPLAIN, WHAT HAPPENS IS IT KEEPS DOWNGRADING, IT KEEPS SCOURING, AND IT INCREASES FLOODING POTENTIAL DOWNSTREAM FOR EVERYBODY. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT UP HERE, BUT THE NEXT PERSON AND THE NEXT COMMUNITY DOWN HERE IS GOING TO HAVE MORE WATER. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTEND WITH IT, ETCETERA, ETCETERA, ETCETERA AS IT GOES DOWN. AND WHEN YOU GET ALL THE WAY DOWN INTO PICKAWAY COUNTY, YOU CAN REALLY SIGNIFICANTLY SEE HOW BIG DARBY CREEK'S HERE. AND WHEN I WAS DOWN THERE LIKE A MONTH AGO, I MEAN, LIKE, I CAN'T EVEN TOUCH THE TOP OF THE [00:15:05] BANK ANYMORE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH WATER GOING FLOW FLOWING THROUGH THERE. SOME PEOPLE TRY TO DO SOME STUFF, LIKE THROW SOME CONCRETE IN THERE TO HELP, JUST LIKE KIND OF MINIMIZE THE ENERGY AS IT TURNS CORNERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS JUST THE RESULT OF URBANIZATION AND REMOVAL OF OUR RIPARIAN CORRIDORS AROUND THE STREAMS, BECAUSE THESE STREAMS SHOULD HAVE SOME TREES AND OTHER VEGETATION AROUND THERE. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS INTEGRATED PRIORITIZATION SYSTEM STUDY. THIS WAS THIS MAP THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE, ALL THE LITTLE BLUE PARTS. SO THIS LITTLE BLUE SPECKS OR TRIANGLES, THOSE ARE ALL DATA POINTS. AND THERE WAS 2600 SAMPLING LOCATIONS AND THEY TOOK 45 YEARS OF DATA. THIS IS MOST OF THIS IS EPA DATA. AND THEY LOOKED AT FOUR DIFFERENT THINGS. THE BIOLOGY. SO FISH BUGS AND MUSSELS, THE CHEMICALS IN THE WATER, THE HABITAT AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE LAND USE. RIGHT. AND WHAT ARE ALL HOW ARE ALL OF THOSE TOGETHER IMPACTING THE WATER QUALITY THROUGHOUT THE WATERSHED? SO THIS WAS THIS REPORT OR THIS STUDY WAS DONE IN TWO PHASES. PHASE ONE, PHASE ONE WAS ACTUALLY COMPLETED. AND WE DID PUT THAT OUT. IT WAS PROBABLY EIGHT MONTHS AGO BEFORE I GOT THERE. AND REALLY WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE IS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS. IT LOOKED AT STRESSORS AND STRESSOR THRESHOLDS. SO A STRESSOR WOULD BE LIKE ANYTHING THAT WOULD IMPACT WATER QUALITY GOING INTO THE STREAM. IT COULD BE A CHEMICAL, IT COULD BE TOO MUCH WATER. IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, A CHANGE IN LAND USE. IT COULD BE ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS. SO IT'S NOT JUST ONE SPECIFIC THING. AND THEN WHAT THEY DETERMINED WAS HOW, WHAT, WHAT'S THE THRESHOLD OF ONE OF THOSE SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, IMPACTFUL IMPURITIES GOING INTO THE STREAM? AND THEY DID THIS FOR EVERY POSSIBLE THING YOU CAN THINK OF. AND WHAT THAT TELLS US IS HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT CAN ONE SPECIFIC THING HAVE ON A STREAM BEFORE IT STARTS DEGRADING IN QUALITY AND VALUE? SO THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT. AND THAT WAS REALLY COOL THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO KIND OF TO FIGURE THIS OUT. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT THINK HERE, THIS MIGHT NOT MEAN MUCH TO YOU, BUT IF I WAS A FISH, I WOULD TOTALLY DIG LIVING HERE BECAUSE IT'S LIKE HABITAT. IT'S PROTECTIVE, YOU KNOW, EVEN WHEN THE WATER IS RISING LOW, YOU STILL HAVE SOME PROTECTION FROM THERE. AND OF COURSE, FROM PREDATORS. I WANT TO HANG OUT THERE, BUT WE OFTEN SEE THIS, AS I SAID BEFORE, JUST AS ANOTHER EXAMPLE, THAT WATER IS COMING AROUND THAT BEND AND JUST SCOURING THAT. AND A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE PROPER MAINTENANCE OF YOUR STREAMS, ULTIMATELY, IF THERE'S NOTHING DONE TO THAT, THAT ROAD IS GOING TO ULTIMATELY BE IMPACTED AT SOME POINT IN TIME. SO WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT MANAGEMENT OF STREAMS IMPACTING INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT ANY URBAN URBANIZED AREA AS WELL. OKAY. WHY DOES IT KEEP DOING THIS? OKAY, THERE WE GO. OKAY. ANYWAYS, THRESHOLDS, WHERE DO YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? SO RIGHT HERE NOW, I'M EXCITED TO SHOW YOU THIS GRAPH BECAUSE LIKE, OBVIOUSLY IT DOESN'T REALLY MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU. AND I GET IT, BUT THESE LITTLE RED THING, THESE RED COLUMNS I JUST CREATED HERE, I WANT, I WANT TO, I WANT TO BRING SOMETHING. THIS IS REALLY WHAT I WANTED TO DEMONSTRATE. SO THE PURPLE AND THE BLUE REPRESENT BIG AND LITTLE DARBY CREEKS, MEANING THAT LIKE THOSE TWO ARE THOSE OUTSTANDING RESOURCE WATERS. AND THE EXCEPTIONAL WARM WATER HABITAT IS THE HIGHEST DESIGNATIONS THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT THEY GET FROM THE EPA. RIGHT. SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO SHOW YOU UP HERE AT THE TOP. SEE WHERE IT SAYS IN PERCENT, SORRY. SEE WHERE IT SAYS PERCENT IMPERVIOUS UP THERE AND IT SAYS FISH. AND THEN IN O S, R, W SAYS 2.8. AND THEN NEXT IT SAYS 3.6. THOSE ARE THE THRESHOLDS OF IMPERVIOUS COVER THROUGHOUT A SPECIFIC AREA IN THE WATERSHED THAT IF YOU MEET IF YOU GO ABOVE, YOU'LL START SEEING DECREASES IN FISH POPULATIONS. SO THIS IS HOW DETAILED THIS REPORT CAN POSSIBLY GET. BUT THE OTHER THING, WHICH I THINK IS SUPER COOL, SEE UNDERNEATH THERE WHERE IT SAYS PERCENT AGRICULTURE, IT SAYS 81 AND 79.2. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THE AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS IMPACTFUL ON THE QUALITY OF THE STREAM THAN URBANIZATION IS OR WILL BE, IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING TO HELP CURB THE INFLUENCE OF IMPERVIOUS COVER. SO THINK ABOUT IT THIS WAY. 200 YEARS AGO, 250 YEARS AGO, OR HOWEVER LONG WHEN THIS AREA WAS STARTING TO BE SETTLED, THIS A LOT OF THIS AREA WAS LIKE KIND OF LIKE WETLANDS AND STUFF. AND IT WAS KIND OF YOU CAN'T REALLY DO MUCH WITH IT. AND SO THIS IS ONE OF THE LAST AREAS IN THE STATE TO ACTUALLY BE AGRICULTURE. AND SO WHEN THEY DID THAT, THAT WAS THE INITIAL IMPACT TO DARBY CREEK AND TO [00:20:04] THE TO THE WATERSHED. BUT THAT'S A LONG TIME AGO. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW IS LIKE THE BASELINE OF. HOWEVER, IT HAS EXISTED SINCE THE FIRST AGRICULTURAL IMPACTS HAVE BEEN AND GONE. THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS HOW AWESOME THE AG INDUSTRY HAS BEEN, BECAUSE THEY'VE CHANGED THEIR PRACTICES. THEY STOPPED DOING THE DISKING AND THEY DO NO TILL AS A NORMAL PRACTICE. AND THEY'VE ALSO PUT LIKE RIPARIAN AREAS OR FILTER STRIPS GOING INTO THESE SMALL STREAMS OR BUFFERING THE SMALL STREAMS INTO LARGER STREAMS. SO ANYTHING THAT THEY PUT ON THEIR FIELD STAYS ON THEIR FIELDS AND DOESN'T FLOW OVER THE LAND, INTO THEIR, INTO THE, INTO THE STREAMS. THAT'S HOW IT'S BEEN ABLE TO STAY AS GREAT AS IT IS, EVEN THOUGH THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, DISTURBANCE IN THE FIELD. SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG AGRICULTURAL JUST WATERSHED, AND IT'S EXISTING REALLY WELL WITH THOSE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS. OKAY, ANOTHER AWESOME GRAPH. TAKE A LOOK AT THAT LITTLE CIRCLE WAY UP THERE IN THE TOP RIGHT. I JUST WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE ALL THE PURPLE DESIGNATES LIKE IN, IN THE LITTLE BLUE DIAMONDS, THOSE ARE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE LIKE THAT, THAT TOP LEFT HAND CORNER. AND THOSE ARE LIKE THE BEST POSSIBLE SCORES THAT YOU CAN GET WHEN IF YOU'RE A BIOLOGIST AND YOU'RE GETTING IN THERE AND YOU'RE JUST LIKE JAMMING ON, CHECKING OUT ALL THESE FISH AND YOU'RE GETTING ALL THESE DATA AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND THE HIGHEST SCORE YOU CAN POSSIBLY GET IS 60 AND BIG DARBY CREEK, OUT OF LOOKING AT ALL THESE STREAMS IN THE STATE, HAS THE MOST PERFECT SCORES THAN ANY OTHER WATERSHEDS THROUGHOUT THE STATE. SO THAT'S HOW JUST AWESOME BIG DARBY ACTUALLY IS. SO YOU CAN JUST SEE JUST HOW GREAT IT IS. AND HONESTLY, A LOT OF SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES AND PROFESSORS COME TO BIG DARBY CREEK BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY GET TO LIKE DO STUFF AND STUDY STUFF BECAUSE THEY EXIST THERE. SO IT'S PRETTY COOL. OKAY, SO WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PHASE ONE RESULTS. I JUST WANTED TO THROW THIS UP THERE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A PUBLISHED DASHBOARD THAT PEOPLE CAN GO TO, AND WE WILL BE HELPING COMMUNITIES AS WE KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE AFTER PHASE TWO IS PUBLISHED, WHICH WE'LL GET TO IN A SECOND. BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO IN THERE AND KIND OF GO AROUND AND LOOK AT DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STREAMS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE STRESSORS, HOW MUCH THEIR THRESHOLDS ARE, AND SO FORTH. JUST JUST A SCREENSHOT OF SOMETHING THAT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE, AND WE DON'T NEED TO GET INTO THIS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT THERE IS AN AVAILABLE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT. AND WE ACTUALLY ARE FINISHING UP A VERY RECENT MUSSEL SURVEY WITH DOCTOR HOGARTH, WHO IS RENOWNED AS BEING THE BEST IN THE STATE. AND HE'S FINISHING THAT UP. AND I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT WITH HIM SO I CAN CHECK OUT SOME COOL MUSSELS TOO. ALRIGHT, THAT WAS PHASE ONE. PHASE TWO. SO NOW WE HAVE ESTABLISHED STRESSORS AND WHAT THEIR THRESHOLDS ARE, BUT NOW WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, LET'S LOOK AT ALL THE STREAMS LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, LIKE THE VASCULAR SYSTEM IN YOUR BODY. SO LET'S LOOK AT ALL THE LITTLE TRIBUTARIES IN THE MAINSTEM. LET'S LOOK AT IT COMPREHENSIVELY. AND WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO IS COME UP WITH THREE RANKINGS THREAT SUSCEPTIBILITY OR RESTORABILITY. I'LL TALK ABOUT EACH ONE HERE IN A SECOND. BUT I THINK THE POINT WITH THIS SLIDE IS THAT THEY CAN GET IT DOWN INTO A VERY SMALL AREA. A VERY SMALL REACH IS WHAT WE CALL THEM. SO IT'S NOT JUST LIKE, HEY, THERE'S THIS, YOU KNOW, 20 MILES OF STREAM AND THESE ARE THE IMPACTS ON IT. NO, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, LET'S GET IT DOWN EVEN FURTHER AS SMALLER AND SMALLER SO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE AND HERE AND HERE. THAT GIVES US BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS HAPPENING AND HOW WE CAN HELP ALLEVIATE IMPACTS TO THAT. SO THERE'S THREE PHASES WHICH I OR RANKINGS, WHICH I TALKED ABOUT. SO RESTORABILITY MEANS THAT YOU HAVE AN IMPAIRED STREAM THAT'S ALREADY DEGRADED. WHAT CAN WE DO TO TRY TO BRING IT BACK INTO A HIGHER TIER OF WATER QUALITY? THAT'S ONE RANKING. SUSCEPTIBILITY SCORE IS THE HIGHEST YOU CAN GET IS LIKE THE CROWN JEWEL. IT IS THE BEST. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. IT IS LIKE AS PRISTINE AS YOU CAN POSSIBLY GET AND YOU GET A SUSCEPTIBILITY SCORE, MEANING WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T DEGRADE? ONCE SOMETHING DEGRADES, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET IT BACK TO WHERE TO WHAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN BEFORE IT DEGRADED. THE THREAT SCORE IS SOMETHING IS A STREAM OR A SEGMENT OF STREAM THAT ALREADY HAS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY CLOSE TO IT, OR AT THAT THRESHOLD WHERE IF ANYTHING WORK IS OVER, IT'S GOING TO START DEGRADING. SO WHAT CAN WE DO TO PULL IT BACK FROM THE EDGE? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? KIND OF LIKE THAT. SO THOSE ARE THE THREE RANKINGS THAT WE HAVE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE COME UP WITH THIS, SOME OF THE BIG TAKEAWAYS. AND I THINK THAT THE BIGGEST ONE HERE IS THE RIVERSCAPE THING THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT REAL QUICK HERE. SO A RIVERSCAPE IDEA IS LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE WATERSHED AS A WHOLE, AND THE CUMULATIVE IMPACTS ARE LIKE, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS UP HERE, DOWN HERE, [00:25:02] OVER HERE, OVER HERE, OVER HERE, ALL OF THEM ADD UP. WE HEARD ABOUT THE IDEA OF A DEATH OF A THOUSAND CUTS. IT'S THE SAME THING HERE. SO THAT'S KIND OF JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. SO EVERYBODY, ALL THE JURISDICTIONS AND EVERYBODY JUST LIKE UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYBODY IMPACTS EVERYBODY ELSE. THERE'S URBANIZATION CHALLENGES SIMPLY WITH THE INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS COVER. HERE'S SOME IDEAS. I LIVE IN THE CITY, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE JUST WENT THROUGH THE DERECHO AND WHATNOT. BUT YOU CAN SEE IN PREVIOUS COVER CREATES HELPS WITH FLOODING AND THEN ALL THESE THINGS THAT LAY ON THE STREETS JUST GET FLUSHED INTO OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM AND THEN GOES SIMPLY TO THE LOWEST LYING AREA. WHAT ARE WE DOING? AND THIS WILL PROBABLY BE I'LL WRAP THIS UP HERE. WHAT ARE WE DOING? WE HAVE A THREE YEAR GRANT. I WAS THE FULL TIME STAFF THAT THEY HIRED. WE'RE ACTUALLY HIRING A CONSULTANT NOW, AND WE'RE ALMOST IN THE FINAL THINGS OF THAT FINAL NEGOTIATIONS WITH THAT. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS CREATE A GUIDANCE DOCUMENT AND PLANNING DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH THE DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY TECHNICAL. IT'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT DESIGNS, SPECIFICALLY AROUND STORMWATER, AS WELL AS LOOKING AT MODEL ORDINANCES THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR ADOPTION, THAT CAN HELP MINIMIZE SPECIFIC STORMWATER IMPACTS TO THE STREAMS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND WITH THAT, WE CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF HAVING A CLEAN WATERSHED AND A CLEAN SPACE. YOU CAN SEE, I THINK THAT YOU YOU ALL KNOW THAT ALREADY. AND WITH THAT, THAT THAT THAT'S ALL I GOT FOR YOU. SO THANKS FOR HAVING ME. WHILE YOU'RE UP HERE, I JUST WANT TO ASK, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? I HAVE TWO MAYBE JUST FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXCITEMENT THAT YOU BROUGHT TONIGHT AND ALSO YOUR PASSION. THANK YOU. AND YOU CAN TELL YOU BELIEVE IN IT AND WE NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE YOU. THANK YOU. AND ALSO, JUST A SIDE NOTE, ARE YOU ANY RELATION TO TOM MCNUTT? THAT WAS MY UNCLE. YEAH, MAN. OKAY. WELL GOD BLESS YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. HE WAS I ACTUALLY MET HIM YEARS AGO AND YEAH, AND I HAD LIKE A SIX HOUR CONVERSATION WITH HIM. HE WAS A GREAT GUY. YES. AND HE COULD TALK RELENTLESSLY. YEAH. AND SO JUST FOR A FUN FACT, I WAS ACTUALLY IN THE TOP THREE TO TAKE HIS POSITION AT CHANNEL FOUR NEWS. OH, OKAY. SO THAT'S WHY I SPOKE TO HIM FOR SIX HOURS. AWESOME. GETTING THE INSIDE SCOOP. ALRIGHT. YEAH, I GET YOU. SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO JUST GIVE YOU TWO POINTS THAT YOU CAN WALK AWAY WITH, KNOWING THAT MARYSVILLE WAS DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO TRY TO PROTECT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. RESIDENTS DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND YET. I DON'T THINK ABOUT THE AND THE URBAN CANOPY STUDY, WHICH WHICH IS WHAT WE DID. NOT ONLY IS THAT GOING TO IMPLEMENT THE PROTECTION OF TREES AND PLANTING MORE TREES, BUT IT'S ALSO PROTECTION OF NATURAL ENVIRONMENT BEFORE DEVELOPMENT CUTS DOWN TREES. AND THAT WILL ENSURE THAT DEVELOPMENT IN NOT ONLY IN THE CITY LIMITS, BUT AS FARMERS SELL THEIR PROPERTY OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS AND IT'S BROUGHT INTO IT, HOW ARE WE AS A COMMUNITY, PROTECTING THOSE WATERSHEDS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT IS GOING DIRECTLY INTO THESE TYPES OF AREAS TO PROTECT THIS ENVIRONMENT. SO WE ARE DOING WE ARE DOING SOMETHING AND THEN ALSO AND SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MADE A COMMITMENT TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE OUR WATERWAYS. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW THE MILL CREEK CORRIDOR AND HOW DO WE PROTECT IT THROUGH BUFFER ZONES FROM DEVELOPMENT? AND ALSO TALKING ABOUT FOR PARKING LOT RUNOFF, HOW DO WE CREATE MORE SUSTAINABLE PROJECTS SO THAT WATER ISN'T JUST RUNNING FROM WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, FROM THE CURB TO MILL CREEK? I THINK THAT ALL OF US WERE KIND OF SHOCKED WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT OF TOWN WAS REMOVING TREES FROM THE LINE OF MILL CREEK, AND WE DON'T EVER WANT THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN, RIGHT? SO TO USE THAT AS A RECREATIONAL AND AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE AND NOT JUST A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, FOR SOMEBODY TO MAKE A QUICK DOLLAR OFF OF. SO I APPRECIATE YOU COMING TONIGHT AND THANKS FOR SHARING THAT TOO. YEAH. SO, AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE FOR YOU TO WORK WITH US TO HELP ENHANCE WHAT WE CAN DO AS A COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR HAVING ME. OTHER MEMBERS COUNCIL. I WANT TO ALSO. YEAH. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR ENTHUSIASM. I LOVE ME SOME GOOD DATA. AND I COME FROM A TECHNICAL BACKGROUND, GREAT CHARTS, BUT I THINK YOUR ENERGY REALLY BROUGHT MY, YOU KNOW, INTRIGUE TO THE TO LIGHT HERE. JUST, YOU KNOW, GREAT WORK. AND I KNOW YOU SAID IT WAS FOR 40 YEARS, SOME OF THIS DATA WAS BEING 45 YEARS OF DATA THAT'S COMPILED TOGETHER. YEAH, A LOT OF EFBY A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE BEFORE YOU. YEAH. SO YEAH, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND YEAH, LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT IT IS THAT YOU HAVE IN TERMS OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND DOING WHAT YOU JUST SUGGESTED AND, YOU KNOW, BRING FORTH WHAT YOU SEE AS SOMETHING THAT [00:30:06] MUNICIPALITIES CAN DO. SURE. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I WILL, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, I'LL GET AHOLD OF MCKINSEY AGAIN AND MAYBE COME BACK AND CHAT WITH YOU ALL ABOUT THAT. THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. COOL, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. HAVE A GREAT EVENING. APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. AND DOES THIS CONCLUDE THE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT? YES, SIR. THIS CONCLUDES THE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. THANK YOU. REPORT [PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT] OF CLERK OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. OKAY. PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT. MISS GAVER. OKAY. SOME SHORT MEETINGS WE HAD THIS MONTH, BUT PLANNING COMMISSION HAD ONE CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION FOR AN ADU AT 13944 SOUTHERN ROAD. THIS APPLICATION WAS APPROVED. SIX. YES. ZERO. NO. AND THAT'S IT FOR PLANNING COMMISSION. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ON THIS. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. DESIGN REVIEW [DESIGN REVIEW BOARD REPORT] BOARD REPORT. YEAH. SO THAT SAME APPLICATION PROCEEDED ON TO DESIGN REVIEW BOARD THIS MONTH FOR THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. AGAIN THAT'S 13944 SOUTHERN ROAD. THIS WAS APPROVED WITH A VOTE OF SEVEN. YES. ZERO NO. THE NEXT APPLICATION WAS FOR AN INFILL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE UPTOWN FOR A NEW SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNIT, 217 SOUTH WALNUT STREET. AGAIN, THIS APPLICATION WAS APPROVED SEVEN YES. ZERO NO. AND THEN WE HAD EXTERIOR PLAN AND LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR A PROPOSED KEMBA A FINANCIAL CREDIT UNION ALONG COLEMANS CROSSING. THIS IS AT A VACANT PARCEL JUST BY JIMMY JOHN'S BY THE THE MULTI-TENANT BUILDING. THAT'S 399. COLEMAN'S CROSSING. THE SITE PLAN AND LANDSCAPE WERE APPROVED SEVEN YES ZERO NO. IN THE ARCHITECTURE AND SIGNAGE HAVE BEEN TABLED. I BELIEVE WE DID RECEIVE THEIR UPDATED PLANS TODAY, SO THAT SHOULD BE BACK ON THE SEPTEMBER AGENDA. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MISS GABER? THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. NEXT ON [HEARING OF CITIZENS] TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS HEARING OF CITIZENS. THIS IS THE TIME IN OUR MEETING WHERE CITIZENS HAVE UP TO FIVE MINUTES, AND WE WILL TIME YOU TO ENSURE FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY OF TREATMENT FOR ALL. BUT YOU HAVE UP TO FIVE MINUTES TO ADDRESS MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. AND IF YOU WISH TO DO SO, YOU WOULD APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD ASK. NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A SESSION OF DIALOG WHERE THERE IS BACK AND FORTH. OF COURSE WE WOULD. WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT IT IS YOU HAVE TO SAY, BUT IT IS NOT STRUCTURED IN A WAY IN WHICH IT'S A Q AND A OR BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATION AT THE POINT IS TO ADDRESS COUNCIL. AND ALSO ONE OTHER POINT. THIS IS FOR TOPICS NOT RELATED TO PENDING LEGISLATION. SO ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS WHO WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT? AND IF SO, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. LESLIE PHILLIPS 235 SOUTH VINE STREET, MARYSVILLE. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S RELATED TO PENDING LEGISLATION, BUT I'VE RECENTLY WE LOOKED AT THE MARYSVILLE TRIBUNE AND SAW THE PLANS FOR FIFTH STREET. WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THAT WAS PLANNED. AND IT'S IT'S GOING TO GO IN. BUT IT DID REMIND ME OF. I. I FEEL LIKE THAT WE ARE DOING THINGS WITH OUR CITY WITHOUT MUCH REGARD TO THE FACT THAT WE STILL HAVE CITIZENS IN NEED IN OUR CITY AS WELL. SO I LOVE THE PLANS. I LOVE THE DIRECTION THAT THE CITY IS GOING IN. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU ALSO STILL HAVE A LOT OF CITIZENS THAT THEIR NEEDS ARE NOT BEING MET. SOME OF THEM ARE, DARE I SAY, SELF AFFLICTED. BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITHIN OUR CITY TO MAINTAIN THEIR FAMILIES, THEY COULD PROBABLY USE SOME HELP. ASIDE FROM A PRETTY STREET AND IMPROVING, YOU KNOW, OUR DRIVEWAYS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT, WHICH I FEEL LIKE THE FIFTH STREET BUMP OUTS ARE, I WANT TO SAY MY TAX DOLLARS ARE HELPING BEAUTIFY SOMEBODY ELSE'S FRONT YARD, AS OPPOSED TO MY TAX DOLLARS HELPING A FAMILY IN NEED, WHICH I THINK I WOULD BE MORE APPRECIATIVE OF. SO IN GOING FORWARD WITH YOUR PLANS, BE MINDFUL OF THE FACT [00:35:01] THAT YOU STILL HAVE CITIZENS THAT HAVE NEEDS AND THEY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AS WELL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? GOOD. HEY. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARK HARRIS. LIVE AT 2195 ACORN LANE. FLOCK SAFETY HAS BECOME A MAJOR PUBLIC ISSUE LATELY, BOTH NATIONALLY AND HERE IN CENTRAL OHIO. BUT AS SOME OF YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING IT SINCE LAST YEAR. AND FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, MY MY BACKGROUND IS IN TECHNOLOGY AND ENGINEERING. I FIRST CAME ACROSS FLOCK SAFETY THROUGH CYBERSECURITY INDUSTRY NEWS. WHAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION BACK THEN WAS PRETTY ALARMING. IT WAS 51 DOCUMENTED SECURITY VULNERABILITIES ACROSS FLOCK HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE INVOLVING ENCRYPTION, AUTHENTICATION, ADMINISTRATIVE ACCESS, AND BASIC DEVICE SECURITY. THAT CONCERNED ME ENOUGH AT THE TIME THAT I BROUGHT A DOCUMENTED LIST OF THESE ISSUES TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE COMMITTEE IN DECEMBER, AND CAME BACK AGAIN IN APRIL AS MORE INFORMATION HAD EMERGED. AND I CHOSE THAT VENUE ON PURPOSE. I DIDN'T WANT TO TURN THIS INTO A POLITICAL SPECTACLE. I DIDN'T WANT CRITICISM OF FLOCK TO BE INTERPRETED AS CRITICISM OF OUR CITY OR OUR POLICE. I VERY MUCH SUPPORT OUR CITY AND OUR POLICE. MY PROBLEM IS WITH FLOCK SAFETY. I'VE WATCHED THIS COMPANY REPEATEDLY MINIMIZE AND MISCHARACTERIZE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS. INSTEAD OF TAKING ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THEM. FLOCK EVEN RESPONDED DIRECTLY TO MARYSVILLE REGARDING MY CONCERNS THAT I RAISED IN DECEMBER, AND I WATCHED THEM DO THE SAME THING HERE SO I COULD STAND UP HERE FOR AN HOUR WALKING THROUGH TECHNICAL FAILURES, NEGLIGENCE, AND A VERY QUESTIONABLE RECORD OF HONESTY. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO. I'LL SHARE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION THAT WILL COVER ALL OF THAT. BUT TO GIVE JUST ONE EXAMPLE, EARLIER THIS YEAR, RESEARCHERS FOUND ROUGHLY 60 FLOCK CAMERAS LIVE STREAMING VIDEO TO THE OPEN INTERNET WITH NO LOGIN, NO PASSWORD, AND NO ENCRYPTION. SOME OF THESE WERE POINTED AT WALKING TRAILS AND CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUNDS. AND INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, NOT VERY MANY LICENSE PLATES THERE. THIS YEAR ALONE, MORE THAN 50 AGENCIES AND JURISDICTIONS HAVE CANCELED, SUSPENDED OR REJECTED FLOCK CONTRACTS AND SHUT THEIR CAMERAS OFF. AND THIS LIST KEEPS GROWING. AT THIS POINT, I'M READING ABOUT A NEW ONE DAILY. I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH ANYBODY ELSE FOLLOWS IT, BUT IT'S PICKING UP. SO AT THIS POINT, I DON'T THINK I NEED TO SPEND MY FIVE MINUTES PROVING THAT FLOCK ITSELF DESERVES SCRUTINY. NOW, WHAT CONCERNS ME MORE NOW IS WHAT THE SYSTEM DOES WHEN IT WORKS EXACTLY AS ADVERTISED. A FLOCK CAMERA TURNS A CAR DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD INTO SEARCHABLE DATA A PLATE, A LOCATION, A DATE AND TIME. ONE CAMERA. SEEING MY CAR AT ONE INTERSECTION IS ONE OBSERVATION, BUT WHEN THOUSANDS OF CAMERAS DO THIS AUTOMATICALLY AND ALL THESE OBSERVATIONS CAN BE SEARCHED TOGETHER, YOU BEGIN TO BUILD A RECORD OF WHERE PEOPLE GO, AND THE SCALE IS HARD TO WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND. FLOCK ITSELF SAYS ITS NETWORK RECORDS MORE THAN 20 BILLION VEHICLE READS EVERY MONTH. THAT'S OVER 600 MILLION EVERY DAY, ALMOST 8000 EVERY SECOND. NO GROUP OF POLICE OFFICERS COULD EVER STAND ON ENOUGH STREET CORNERS TO DO THAT. NO PERSON COULD OBSERVE, REMEMBER, ORGANIZE AND SEARCH THAT AMOUNT OF MOVEMENT. THIS CAPABILITY EXISTS ONLY BECAUSE WE'VE AUTOMATED SURVEILLANCE ON A MASSIVE SCALE. THAT IS NOT THE SAME THING AS SIMPLY BEING SEEN IN PUBLIC. THOSE RECORDS REVEAL A LOT ABOUT OUR PERSONAL LIVES, WHAT DOCTORS WE VISIT, WHERE WE WORSHIP, WHETHER WE ATTEND A POLITICAL RALLY OR A PROTEST, WHO WE ASSOCIATE WITH, WHERE WE SPEND OUR NIGHTS. NO COMPANY, GOVERNMENT AGENCY OR COMPUTER SYSTEM CAN PROMISE PERFECT SECURITY FOREVER. FLOCK AND SIMILAR SYSTEMS CAN'T PROMISE THAT RIGHT NOW. SYSTEMS GET COMPROMISED. PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES. LEADERSHIP CHANGES, TECHNOLOGY GETS MORE POWERFUL. WE CAN REDUCE THESE RISKS. WE CANNOT ELIMINATE THEM. SO WHEN THE INFORMATION IS THIS SENSITIVE, I THINK THE QUESTION BECOMES PRETTY SIMPLE WHY ARE WE COLLECTING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE? I MAY TRUST CHIEF BROOKS AND EVERY MARYSVILLE OFFICER USING THE SYSTEM TODAY. THAT'S NOT REALLY MY CONCERN. GOVERNMENTS CHANGE, VENDORS CHANGE. THE PEOPLE HOLDING THE KEYS CHANGE. WE ARE NOT ONLY DECIDING WHETHER WE TRUST THE PEOPLE HOLDING THESE KEYS. IN 2026, WE'RE DECIDING WHETHER THESE KEYS SHOULD EXIST FOR WHOEVER MAY HOLD THEM IN OUR CHILDREN'S AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN'S LIFETIMES. AND MAKE NO MISTAKE, MARYSVILLE IS NOT IN CONTROL. FLOCK WOULD LIKE US TO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE. MARYSVILLE CAN CHOOSE THE SETTINGS AND THE POLICIES, BUT ULTIMATELY WE RELY ON FLOCK TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT AND HONOR THESE DECISIONS. A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE LEARNED THE HARD WAY THAT CHOOSING THE RULES IS NOT THE SAME AS CONTROLLING WHETHER FLOCK FOLLOWS THEM. SO FOR ME, THE QUESTION IS NO LONGER WHETHER I TRUST FLOCK SAFETY, I DON'T. THE BIGGER QUESTION IS WHETHER THIS KIND OF DATABASE SHOULD EXIST AT ALL. I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD CREATE A SEARCHABLE RECORD OF INNOCENT PEOPLE'S MOVEMENTS ON THIS SCALE, AND THEN SPEND THE REST OF OUR TIME ARGUING ABOUT WHO GETS TO USE IT, HOW LONG THEY KEEP IT, OR WHETHER THE COMPANY PROTECTING [00:40:05] IT CAN BE TRUSTED. THE ONLY WAY TO KEEP THIS DATA TRULY SAFE IS TO NOT COLLECT IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. FOR THOSE REASONS, I ASK THE COUNCIL TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER ENDING MARYSVILLE'S RELATIONSHIP WITH FLOCK SAFETY AND NOT REPLACING IT WITH ANOTHER SYSTEM THAT CREATES ESSENTIALLY THE SAME SURVEILLANCE CAPABILITY. SO I'LL PROVIDE MY SOURCES AND SUPPORTING MATERIAL. I HOPE THIS CAN START A THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL AS A WHOLE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE IT. ANY OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL THIS EVENING? GOOD EVENING. ANDREW JONES 537 EAST FIFTH STREET. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS OBSERVATIONS ABOUT THE UPCOMING CONSTRUCTION PROJECT ON EAST FIFTH. FIRST OFF, I WANT TO COMMEND COUNCIL AND EVERYONE INVOLVED. FOR THE MOST PART, I REALLY LIKE THE PLAN. WHEN I MOVED ON TO EAST FIFTH FIVE SIX YEARS AGO, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY KIDS. I HAVE A THREE YEAR OLD AND A THREE MONTH OLD NOW. THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS ARE GOING TO BE A GODSEND, SO I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT AND EFFORT THAT WENT INTO THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. A COUPLE, I GUESS, COMMENTS SLASH CONCERNS, IF YOU WILL, ABOUT THE PROJECT ITSELF. AS A FIREFIGHTER FOR 15 YEARS, I LOOK AT THINGS THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT LENS, AND THE LENS I'M LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT WITH RIGHT NOW IS HOW IN THE WORLD IS A FIRE TRUCK GOING TO RESPOND DOWN EAST FIFTH STREET? AS IT STANDS NOW, FROM WHAT I'VE WITNESSED, DOZENS, IF NOT HUNDREDS OF TIMES FROM MY FRONT DOOR, IS THAT FIRE TRUCK OR AMBULANCE RESPONDS DOWN EAST FIFTH STREET, THE SEAS PART AND THE FIRE TRUCK GOES DOWN THE MIDDLE. UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE MEDIANS, THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE POSSIBLE AT ALL UNLESS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE JUMPING UP ONTO FRONT YARDS AND CURBS AND MEDIANS EVERYWHERE. SO I WOULD ASK THAT AS WE DEVELOP OUR CITY AND LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE LINE, THAT WE CONSIDER THESE THINGS, HOW THEY RELATE TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND FIRE APPARATUS, BECAUSE I, I CERTAINLY WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET DOWN THE ROAD. IF MY FAMILY OR SOMEONE I LOVE IS HAVING AN EMERGENCY. ADDITIONALLY, IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY, AN AMBULANCE OR FIRE TRUCKS GOING TO BE PARKED ON EAST FIFTH STREET, THEY'RE GOING TO BLOCK ALL TRAFFIC COMING FROM ONE DIRECTION, FORCING CARS INTO ONCOMING TRAFFIC, WHICH IS GOING TO CAUSE MORE ACCIDENTS. I'VE SEEN AND WITNESSED THIS OVER 15 YEARS. MANY TIMES ACCIDENTS CAUSE ACCIDENTS A LOT OF TIMES. ADDITIONALLY, WHEN IF IF TRAFFIC IS BACKED UP, WHICH IT OFTEN IS ON EAST FIFTH, THAT'S GOING TO FORCE EMERGENCY VEHICLES INTO ONCOMING TRAFFIC AS WELL, WHICH INCREASES THE RISK TO SOME OF MY GOOD FRIENDS AT MARYSVILLE FIRE AND, AND THE PUBLIC IN GENERAL. SO I JUST ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THOSE THINGS MOVING FORWARD. ADDITIONALLY, I DON'T THINK I'M ALONE IN THIS. I DRIVE A LARGER VEHICLE, AND THE WAY THAT THE PLANS ARE SITTING RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE MY APRON IS GOING TO BE ABOUT DOUBLED. UNFORTUNATELY, MY VEHICLE HAS THE TURNING RADIUS OF THE TITANIC, SO I'M GOING TO BE FORCED, AS IT STANDS, TO DIP INTO ONCOMING TRAFFIC, WHICH IS NOT IDEAL. PULL IN AND OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY QUITE A BIT. SO I HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE ENGINEER'S OFFICE. UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK WITH ANYONE THERE YET, BUT I INTEND ON DOING THAT UNTIL I COME IN CONTACT. BUT OVERALL, I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLAN. I THINK IT'S GOING TO DO WONDERS FOR THE APPROACH INTO THE CITY AND APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? OKAY. THANK YOU. SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AGENDA. JUST A COUPLE POINTS. I THINK THAT WE DO HAVE SOME FURTHER COMMUNICATION. I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO RESOLVE THE ONE GENTLEMAN'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE THE FLOCK CAMERAS, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME COMMUNICATION PLANNED WITH THE NEWSPAPER IN THE UPCOMING FUTURE, CORRECT? YES. BOTH OF OUR LOCAL NEWS AGENCIES HAVE DONE ARTICLES ABOUT FLOCK, AND I BELIEVE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE JT IS MEETING WITH CAPTAIN SACKS TOMORROW TO HAVE SOME FURTHER DIALOG. OKAY. AND THEN JUST I KNOW WE HAD HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS, AND I'VE RECEIVED SIMILAR COMMUNICATIONS, WRITTEN EMAILS FROM IN THE LAST WEEK FROM A RESIDENT IN MY WARD. AND JUST A GENERAL QUESTION, I KNOW, HOW DO WE CONSIDER THAT AS A CITY? BECAUSE I KNOW WE DO. THERE ARE GENERALLY SPEAKING, THERE ARE VEHICLES. BUT HOW ARE WE CONSIDERING THAT IN THIS PLANNING EFFORT? COULD WE SPEAK TO THAT TO TO SOME EXTENT? I DON'T KNOW, JAMIE. YOU CAN FEEL FREE. I CAN JUST NORMALLY IN A PLANNING PROCESS, YOU DEFINITELY. ALL OF THIS TYPE OF DESIGN GOES THROUGH EVERY DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING FIRE AND POLICE, TO ENSURE SAFETY. BUT JAMIE, IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANY DETAILS, FEEL FREE TO DO SO. SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH OUR COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR TO HELP [00:45:08] EDUCATE SOME. WHEN AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE IS COMING UP BEHIND YOU, YOU KNOW, PROPER ACCESS. IF YOU ARE IN AN AREA WHERE THERE'S A MEDIAN IN THE MIDDLE, PROCEED FORWARD SO WE CAN GO AROUND TO YOUR LEFT. SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON COMMUNICATING THAT OUT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER WILL ALSO BRING SOME EXAMPLES FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT DO HAVE THESE TYPE OF STREET DESIGNS. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL AS WELL. OKAY, GREAT. ALSO, I THINK YOU MENTIONED JUST A CONNECTION WITH OUR ENGINEER, OUR ENGINEERS HERE THIS EVENING. SO IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT, PLEASE DO SO. YEAH, I, I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY COMMUNICATION. SO IF, IF YOU WANT TO EMAIL ME DIRECTLY, YOU CAN WE WILL GET. YEAH. GREAT. THANK YOU. ACTUALLY, THIS EVENING'S MEETING IS VERY SHORT AND WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE LEGISLATION [COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL PERSONS AND GENERAL DISCUSSION] TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS EVENING. SO IT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT ABRUPT FOR ME. IT'S MY FIRST TIME EVER BEING IN A MEETING WHERE WE ARE MOVING FROM HEARING OF CITIZENS TO COMMENTS OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL PERSONS AND GENERAL DISCUSSION. SO WE WILL START WITH MISS SHARP. I DO NOT HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BEYOND THE REPORT GIVEN EARLIER, BUT I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG. IS IT OKAY TO FAREWELL, JEREMY THIS TIME? I THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT DATE. ALRIGHT. WELL, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT I GOT TO WORK WITH JEREMY VERY LONG, BUT WHEN I DID, ESPECIALLY WHEN I WAS CAMPAIGNING, HE WAS ON IT. HE WAS CONSTANTLY YOU RESPONDING WITHIN, YOU KNOW, HOURS IF NOT MINUTES. AND I'M REALLY GOING TO MISS THAT. AND HAVING AN ASSISTANT MANAGER, HE WASN'T EVEN AN ASSISTANT MANAGER THEN AT THAT, YOU KNOW, SO I'M GOING TO MISS YOU. THANK YOU. SO IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK. I'M DONE. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN REAMES, YOUR MICROPHONE DOESN'T BE TURNED ON. IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS. LAST WEEK, I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND OHIO'S FUTURE OF MOBILITY CONFERENCE AT THE AMEC. KATHY WAS THERE, TOO. KIM KIMBERLY SHARPE WAS THERE. WE HAD A FEW PEOPLE THERE. GREAT, GREAT CONFERENCE. IT KIND OF REMINDED ME, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS AN AREA THAT I STUDIED WHEN I WAS IN GRADUATE SCHOOL, BUT BACK THEN, A LOT OF IT WAS THEORETICAL. SO IT WAS REALLY KIND OF NEAT TO SEE HIS AS MORE OF THIS IS MOVING INTO APPLICATION AND BEING HERE WHERE THAT'S HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, IN THE BETA DISTRICT, JUST REALLY COOL. AND I WANTED TO ALSO THANK JEREMY. I'VE KNOWN JEREMY QUITE A WHILE. WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER A LONG TIME ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR US. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND GOOD LUCK. COUNCILMAN TAKACS, JUST WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT I HOPE EVERYONE HAS HAD A SMOOTH TRANSITION BACK TO SCHOOL. I THINK ALL THAT'S LEFT IS OUR KINDERGARTNER. START TOMORROW. SO WATCH FOR THE SMALLEST FEET OUT GETTING ON THE BUS AS THEY GO BACK TOMORROW MORNING. WE HAD A GREAT MISS SHARP MENTIONED IT, BUT WE DID HAVE A GREAT UPTOWN. THE WEATHER WAS SPECTACULAR AND IT IS ALWAYS SUPER NICE TO HAVE EVERYBODY UPTOWN. AS THE SUMMER WRAPS UP AND PEOPLE START TO HEAD BACK TO THEIR BUSY SCHEDULES. SO A GREAT EVENING WITH THAT AND HOPE YOU ALL ARE THERE FOR THE SEPTEMBER 11TH ONE. I HOPE WE HAVE JUST AS GOOD OF WEATHER. AND JEREMY, THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN NICE TO GET TO KNOW YOU AND A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THE 250 STUFF AND GOOD LUCK IN YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BORDNER. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER, BUT I'LL ECHO EVERYBODY ELSE. JEREMY. GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. THE VERY. ALWAYS WILLING TO ANSWER A PHONE CALL, TEXT, EMAIL. DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S 930 AT NIGHT, HE'LL TEXT YOU BACK AND ALWAYS, ALWAYS RELIABLE, DEPENDABLE. SO APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR EFFORTS GETTING TO KNOW YOU OVER THE LAST TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEARS AND GOOD LUCK IN YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS. COUNCILMAN WOLFF. YEAH, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK JEREMY. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TOGETHER ON PARKS AND REC, PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE, CEMETERY ADVISORY. SO A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AND ANSWERS TO EMAILS, TEXTS, YOU KNOW, RESPONSES TO LIGHT BULB OUTAGES AND MOLE VALLEY AND JUST A LOT OF GOOD WORK. SO I APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU SPENT HERE. I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN HERE QUITE A WHILE, SO DUBLIN'S GETTING SOMEONE GREAT, BUT I ALSO WANT TO THANK MR. HARRIS FOR COMING OUT AND EXPRESSING YOUR CONCERNS AGAIN ON THE FLOCK SAFETY. I THINK IT NOW GOES ABOVE THE AS YOU MENTIONED, THE IDEA OF FLOCK AS A COMPANY ITSELF AND MORE OF THE KIND OF LARGER SCALE ISSUES AND IDEA OF WHAT GOES INTO THAT KIND OF MASSIVE SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM AND A SURVEILLANCE STATE THAT SEEMINGLY GROWS LARGER AND LARGER EACH DAY. SO IT'S [00:50:01] DEFINITELY A CONVERSATION WORTH HAVING. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BURGER. YOU KNOW, I JUST FIRST FIRST, I WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, AS WE WELCOME A NEW SCHOOL YEAR, KIDS ARE BACK, SCHOOL BUSSES ARE BACK. AND I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO PAY ATTENTION. THE DAYS ARE GOING TO GET A LOT SHORTER HERE PRETTY SOON. AND THOSE BUS STOPS ARE GOING TO BE A LOT DARKER. SO TAKE A MOMENT AND JUST PUT YOUR PHONE DOWN AND PAY ATTENTION. I THAT'S THE OTHER COMMENT I'M GOING TO SAY IS ABOUT JEREMY. I THINK I'VE PROBABLY KNOWN JEREMY AS LONG AS MARK. MAYBE BEFORE I WAS EVEN A COUNCIL MEMBER AT THE OLD CITY HALL. AND I REMEMBER COMING TO VISITING HIM BECAUSE MY SUMP PUMP DRAIN HAD COLLAPSED AT THAT TIME. AND HE WAS THERE WITH VALERIE KLINGMAN AND ALL OF THAT. THE OLD GUARD AND JEREMY HAS WORKED UNDER A LOT OF DIFFERENT LEADERSHIPS, AND HE WAS ABLE TO STAY THE COURSE AND STAY INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE JEREMY DOES WHAT JEREMY KNOWS HOW TO DO BEST IS KEEP HIS HEAD DOWN AND WORK REALLY HARD ON THE BEHALF OF WHOEVER HE'S WORKING FOR. AND THAT NEVER WENT NOT UNNOTICED. AND I APPRECIATE YOU AND VALUE YOU. AND I KNOW THAT YOU WILL BE SUCCESSFUL IN DUBLIN, AND I'M SURE THERE WILL BE SOME OTHER ROUTE FOR YOU AFTER THAT. SO I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST, AND I'M SURE WE'LL SEE YOU AROUND. THANK YOU. LAST COUNCIL MEETING, I WAS EXPRESSED GRATITUDE FOR THE AMOUNT OF RAIN THAT WE HAD HAD, BUT THAT WAS PRIOR TO EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE SINCE RECEIVED. SO I APOLOGIZE TO THE FARMERS. I'M GLAD TO SEE RAINFALL COMPARED TO LAST SUMMER, BUT IT'S BEEN A BIT MUCH SO WE CAN TAKE A BREAK. I'M APPRECIATIVE FOR TODAY. I WANT TO ALSO JUST COMMEND JEREMY ON JUST SUCCESS IN YOUR DAY TO DAY JOB. WHEN I HAD FIRST STARTED ON COUNCIL AND THIS IS TRUE FOR OTHERS, TERRY EMERY HAD SET UP AND HE HAD WORKED WITH STAFF TO SET UP ORIENTATION SESSIONS. SO WE HAVE AN HOUR OR TWO HOURS OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE TO MEET WITH PLANNING, ZONING, ENGINEERING, PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE. I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY SIT DOWN WITH JEREMY, YOU KNOW, BY MYSELF JUST TO TALK THROUGH WHAT HE WHAT IT IS. HE DOES UNDERSTAND REALLY WHAT HE DEALS WITH. AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE CITY OF JEREMY'S AN EMPLOYEE AT THIS MOMENT, THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, BUT THE CITY OF MARYSVILLE, IN TERMS OF HIS WORK, IS NOT JUST THE BOUNDARIES THAT YOU SEE ON THE MUNICIPAL MAP. MUCH OF THE WORK THAT IS GOING ON UNDER JEREMY IN INVOLVING JEREMY IS THE OVERALL COUNTY. IT'S THE 33, YOU KNOW, DOWN TO JEROME TOWNSHIP. THERE'S A LOT THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS GONE ON IN UNION COUNTY, I THINK HAS SWINGS BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN DELAWARE OF BEING THE FASTEST COUNTY, GROWING MAYBE SECOND FASTEST, FASTEST. AGAIN, WITH THAT, THERE'S IMMENSE COMMUNICATION LINES OF COMMUNICATION. THERE'S SOMETIMES THERE'S PROBABLY POLITICAL HEAT THAT THAT THIS YOU KNOW, THE GUYS I LIKE TO THINK OF MYSELF TOO, AS TECHNICAL, BUT, YOU KNOW, BUT ANYWAYS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE FACTS, THE MATTERS, THE, THE NUMBERS, THE, THE CAPACITIES. BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO THIS OTHER ELEMENT ON TOP OF THAT. SO I KNOW THAT THE I, I'VE NOT LIVED IT FIRSTHAND, BUT I, I CAN, I KNOW JUST FROM AN OUTSIDER LOOKING IN THAT THERE THERE'S A LOT AND THERE'S SO MUCH JUST A BREADTH OF EXPERIENCE. AND I APPRECIATE, JEREMY, YOUR PROFESSIONALISM AND, AND ALL OF THE, THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE, YOUR SERVICE TO OUR CITY AND JUST TO THE PUBLIC IN GENERAL. SO WE APPRECIATE YOU. I WOULD ALSO JUST ASK IF ANYONE WOULD WISH TO JUST WELCOME A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR JEREMY SERVICE. SO I WILL DO THAT. NOW. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE SERVING NOT ONLY THE CITIZENS OF OF MARYSVILLE, AS YOU MENTIONED, BUT THEN ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS OUT IN THE COUNTY. SO IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN A GREAT RIDE. I LOVE EVERYBODY I WORK WITH AND, YOU KNOW, HOPE TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THOSE RELATIONSHIPS MOVING FORWARD. AND IF YOU HAVE MY CELL PHONE NUMBER, IT'S NOT CHANGING. I'VE HAD IT SINCE COLLEGE TO REACH OUT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL PROBABLY HOLD YOU TO THAT. SO WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, JEREMY. AGAIN, FANTASTIC. YOU KNOW, JUST SUCH A BRIGHT FUTURE AHEAD OF YOU AND JUST JUST SO MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. AND I, YOU KNOW, I KNOW, I RECOGNIZE I'VE BEEN SERVING HERE FOR SO MANY YEARS, NOT AS LONG AS THOSE THAT HAVE WORKED AROUND YOU THAT DURATION. SO SUCH A GREAT ASSET TO OUR CITY. AND I KNOW YOU'LL BE TO [THE POTENTIAL TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION RELATED TO THE SPECIFIC BUSINESS STRATEGY OF AN APPLICANT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE] THOSE THAT YOU SERVE IN THE FUTURE. AT THIS POINT IN OUR MEETING, WE HAVE POTENTIAL TO ADJOURN TO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION RELATED TO THE [00:55:01] SPECIFIC BUSINESS STRATEGY OF AN APPLICANT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE, AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE A MOTION AND A SECOND, SO MOVED. I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY, SO COUNCILMAN BURGER MOVED AND THEN COUNCILMAN BORDNER SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL PLEASE, MISS YOUNG. YES. MR. BORDNER YES. MR. WOLFF YES. MR. BURGER YES. MR. HUNTER. YES. MRS. TAKACS YES. MR. REAMS * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.